Johnson Out

[paddy1875]

He'll certainly try to convince them to do that. Understandably. He doesn't want sacked and he believes that he can turn things around.

Whether he manages to do either is another thing.

He knows himself it’s when not if now


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[B.H.F.C]

He’s going to convince them to give him a few games after we’ve been knocked out of Europe isnt he?

I’ll be surprised if he is away this week. He should be but don’t think he will be.

If he was to win up at Aberdeen he’d then keep his job but this isn’t going away. Starting the season with three defeats is bad enough but I can’t remember starting a season with three performances as bad.

[Lago]

No need pal for your attempt in being a smart arse btw !
Agree, totally unnecessary, as you say a smart arse.

[HFC93]

I think it's quite telling that Hibs haven't posted anything since full time. Hibs love a social media post even after a bad defeat.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Today has just about tipped the balance for me.

Could not see any plan in our general patterns of play. Get it wide and either whip it in from deep with one striker in the box or give it to Youan/ Boyle and ask them to take on 3 men and do the same. Back to middle refusing to drive into space in possession. Link up between our forward players non-existent.

Far too many performances like today. You can accept an off-day but over the course of LJ's tenure it's pretty much every second weekend. We have a performance in us but you can't rely on an LJ side.

I don't think he knows how to utilise his squad while playing in europe either.

[GreenCastle]

Got a feeling they will keep him till the 1st derby.

We then play old firm the next 2 weeks so gives them time to bring someone else in.

In an ideal world they are searching for a replacement tonight and finding someone to take over as soon as he leaves.

You know you’re in a bad place when Hearts fans love your manager too. They think he’s a joke and the sooner we bring someone in who is respected by fans and players the better.

We also have the issue of the transfer window shutting soon. New manager now = few days to get own players.

Keep LJ and it’s another wasted window not actually adding what we need.

Feels like whatever happens we aren’t moving forward and will be another 12 months to fix.

[Northernhibee]

Got a feeling they will keep him till the 1st derby.

We then play old firm the next 2 weeks so gives them time to bring someone else in.

In an ideal world they are searching for a replacement tonight and finding someone to take over as soon as he leaves.

You know you’re in a bad place when Hearts fans love your manager too. They think he’s a joke and the sooner we bring someone in who is respected by fans and players the better.

The “Johnson, what’s the score?” chant from the Villa fans was quite telling.

[Paulie Walnuts]

No need pal for your attempt in being a smart arse btw !

A bit like when you came on after a win earlier in the season in Europe and started trolling giving it “aye but we’ve not improved much since Maloney mind :faf:” Was that not your attempt at being a smart arse? Or is it only ok when you do it?

I’m sure if you can give it out you can be big enough to take it back.

Oh and btw, defeats at Villa and Pittodrie, which look absolute stick ons, has his record back to being similar to Maloneys again yet over a period 3 times as long.

[GreenGray]

The “Johnson, what’s the score?” chant from the Villa fans was quite telling.

Aye, I’m surprised so many hibees still back him when he’s clearly the butt of the joke for other teams fans


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[SaulGoodman]

I don’t know how anyone’s got time to hold grudges over faceless people on an internet forum

[WhileTheChief..]

I’ve said it before, we beat hearts and he tried to lap it up to David Brent esk levels. He then came up to the Albion to a David Brent esk reception. He’s never been a hibs manager. He’s a donut, a slaver and I wish him as far away from our club as physically possible.

Sums it up perfectly for me.

Should never ever have been anywhere near us.

[WeeRussell]

I don’t know how anyone’s got time to hold grudges over faceless people on an internet forum

I find it particularly strange when a hibs defeat is used to gleefully act on them… on a hibs fans’ forum.

[JammyDoidger]

It's gone too far now, you heard the fans today, even if he won at Aberdeen it wouldn't change nothing, the fans have made their mind up, why does he need time to turn it round, he's had plenty time since he's been in the door, we've all had enough, just go before it gets any worse.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i've only ever listened to two LJ interviews in the past but after reading this from today

Sky: "Do you still think you'll be manager next week?"


asking the man this ffs **** off Sky dude, hope it wasn't luke that asked that

[H18 SFR]

i've only ever listened to two LJ interviews in the past but after reading this from today

Sky: "Do you still think you'll be manager next week?"


asking the man this ffs **** off Sky dude, hope it wasn't luke that asked that

Was a female?

[yonder1875]

It’s obvious that he needs to go now but I do not have much faith in the club appointing a decent manager. The turnover of managers paints a picture of much bigger problems at Hibs than just the manager.

The squad that has been assembled (again that’s not only the manager doing that work) is so so average and in my opinion of the weakest in the premiership and that’s not acceptable when you look at our budget.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Was a female?


no idea, if it was then she can do the same with that crap

[Paulie Walnuts]

no idea, if it was then she can do the same with that crap

It was a female.

[Iain G]

Why has this poster been banned?
For the record he is and has been a season ticket holder in the east for a long time, he also had seats in the FFL when the kids were younger, I've sat beside him all this time, I can't see anything posted that deserves a ban

He plays golf 😁

[Smartie]

i've only ever listened to two LJ interviews in the past but after reading this from today

Sky: "Do you still think you'll be manager next week?"


asking the man this ffs **** off Sky dude, hope it wasn't luke that asked that

I don’t think you can have Hibs fans (a significant number too) singing “Johnson gtf” inside Easter Road then expect anyone in the media to tiptoe around that subject.

It was fair game and a “yes” would have sufficed.

[cabbageandribs1875]

It was a female.


I don’t think you can have Hibs fans (a significant number too) singing “Johnson gtf” inside Easter Road then expect anyone in the media to tiptoe around that subject.

It was fair game and a “yes” would have sufficed.


his response was this, and i don't blame him within minutes after a bad defeat, getting asked if yer going be here next week, sorry not a nice question after events just minutes previously


Johnson: "Aw, thank you."

[One Day Soon]

The state of us just now. We must be a heartbeat away from someone doing a Downfall number on us.

[S4uzee]

i've only ever listened to two LJ interviews in the past but after reading this from today

Sky: "Do you still think you'll be manager next week?"


asking the man this ffs **** off Sky dude, hope it wasn't luke that asked that

Was a very poor question.

[Donegal Hibby]

A bit like when you came on after a win earlier in the season in Europe and started trolling giving it “aye but we’ve not improved much since Maloney mind :faf:” Was that not your attempt at being a smart arse? Or is it only ok when you do it?

I’m sure if you can give it out you can be big enough to take it back.

Oh and btw, defeats at Villa and Pittodrie, which look absolute stick ons, has his record back to being similar to Maloneys again yet over a period 3 times as long.

Thought our win in Europe was very good and we played much better than we did under Maloney . I didn't actually expect us to get anything at home to Villa tbh and certainly don't away to them . Aberdeen will be favourites alright though i can't predict the outcome like you , wish I could though would be handy when I do my football coupon 😁.

As to anyone wanting some feedback on Hibs from me I would suggest they find out were Ben Kensell goes at the weekend and buy I'm a couple of drinks (if going by what's been said is true ) I'm sure he will sing like a canary.

[Gmack7]

He plays golf 😁

As do I, don't tell anyone as I don't want banned aswell 😁

[Nicho87]

Was a stupid question

I’m very much LJ out but it reeked off trying to get an exclusive

She got one but for the wrong reasons

[I'm Spartacus]

i've only ever listened to two LJ interviews in the past but after reading this from today

Sky: "Do you still think you'll be manager next week?"


asking the man this ffs **** off Sky dude, hope it wasn't luke that asked that

Poor question indeed, and it got the response they wanted. He had decided to walk before she could get the question out so he must have known it was coming.

[jeffers]

Absolutely nothing wrong with that interview. And he can stick his fine margins pish where the sun doesn’t shine.

[Squealing pig]

Times up now

[bordergreen]

Has he not gone yet? Come on Hibs, get it done!

[The Modfather]

Thought our win in Europe was very good and we played much better than we did under Maloney . I didn't actually expect us to get anything at home to Villa tbh and certainly don't away to them . Aberdeen will be favourites alright though i can't predict the outcome like you , wish I could though would be handy when I do my football coupon 😁.

As to anyone wanting some feedback on Hibs from me I would suggest they find out were Ben Kensell goes at the weekend and buy I'm a couple of drinks (if going by what's been said is true ) I'm sure he will sing like a canary.

Did yesterday change anything for you? Or do you still see Johnson as struggling at the moment but still the man for the job?

[Crutch]

Hoping the lack of in-house interview is a sign of things to come.

Only his self to blame. A serial complainer who fails to understand the basic concept of his job. Wasn’t ready for the league cup groups last season. Andorra away came too early. Players too tired to play two games a week (in August…). All giving the players one thing and one thing only, an excuse.

[Bridge hibs]

He has to go now, I was living more in hope than expectation that he could mould those players into a football team however its painfully obvious he has lost it

To be honest Im not sure who I want in but my fear is the board dont know either. A lot of media chat has been about lack of identity and to be honest we as a team appear to be miles away from having any semblance of an identity, we are powderpuff all over the pitch, we struggle to maintain shape, devoid of ideas at time and get rolled over week in week out

What type of football do we want ? Right now just a ****ing team that show desire and fight from the first minute until the last, none of this headless chicken ****, a team that will fight for the jerseys, organised and make themselves hard to beat, right now we are light years away from that

Its just so ****ing **** just now, rudderless !!

[Since452]

I'm getting sick of the same rinse and repeat ***** every couple of seasons. It's extremely draining. Constant transition. Let's hope the new manager has a freakish run like Robson did at Aberdeen before it goes Pete Tong and he's eventually emptied too.

[Nicho87]

I'm getting sick of the same rinse and repeat ***** every couple of seasons. It's extremely draining. Constant transition. Let's hope the new manager has a freakish run like Robson did at Aberdeen before it goes Pete Tong and he's eventually emptied too.

I hear you but that is football now

What manager in the top flight has been in charge longer than 2 seasons

Malky McKay of top of my head

[Paulie Walnuts]

I hear you but that is football now

What manager in the top flight has been in charge longer than 2 seasons

Malky McKay of top of my head

:agree:

If people are wanting someone who stays in post for 5 years or whatever then they’re likely going to be disappointed forever more.

McInnes would be our best bet for that though imo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It now seems to have got to a point where almost to a (wo)man, the fan base are now expecting an announcement any minute now. When it gets to that stage it usually happens.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[Nicho87]

:agree:

If people are wanting someone who stays in post for 5 years or whatever then they’re likely going to be disappointed forever more.

McInnes would be our best bet for that though imo.

I’d take mcinnes asap

Knows the league
Knows how to win
Experienced manager
Decent results against old firm
Think he would hang around for a few years

I’d let him have full control and completly let him set up a recruitment set up as the last / current regime changes every transfer window it seems.

I’d fully back the appointment of mcinnes

It’s a safe appointment

Now is not the time to be trying some yank or another inexperienced to management or this league appointment

[Trinity Hibee]

I’d take mcinnes asap

Knows the league
Knows how to win
Experienced manager
Decent results against old firm
Think he would hang around for a few years

I’d let him have full control and completly let him set up a recruitment set up as the last / current regime changes every transfer window it seems.

I’d fully back the appointment of mcinnes

It’s a safe appointment

Now is not the time to be trying some yank or another inexperienced to management or this league appointment

Fully agree. Hopefully he is who we get.

[B.H.F.C]

I don’t think McInnes would take the job now.

Can forget about him for now IMO. In fact, I still don’t think we’ll have a vacancy just yet.

[Hibby70]

I think he'll get the Aberdeen game, then sacked.

[JohnM1875]

I think he'll get the Aberdeen game, then sacked.

I actually think he'll get a full round of fixtures then get punted. No idea why though. Clear as day now, probably much earlier, that he's just not up to it.

[JimBHibees]

Hoping the lack of in-house interview is a sign of things to come.

Only his self to blame. A serial complainer who fails to understand the basic concept of his job. Wasn’t ready for the league cup groups last season. Andorra away came too early. Players too tired to play two games a week (in August…). All giving the players one thing and one thing only, an excuse.

Difficult to argue with that summary

[Brightside]

No need pal for your attempt in being a smart arse btw !

Will you now accept that we’ve been awful in all 3 league games this season. And it looks like he has no idea what he’s doing.

[JohnM1875]

Will you now accept that we’ve been awful in all 3 league games this season. And it looks like he has no idea what he’s doing.

It was when he, finally, brought the three subs on and no one seemed to have a scooby about the formation or what to do. Just chucking players on and hoping for the best. Guy doesn't have a clue.

[jeffers]

Looks like the penny has finally dropped for the majority now. Forgetting what he has or hasn’t done at previous clubs his time with us has seen the same up and down performances, bizarre team selections and blaming anyone but himself when we lose. He may have accepted responsibility yesterday but it’s too little too late.

[Trinity Hibee]

It now doesn’t matter if results were to pick up. He’s done with us now and when that happens the quicker the manager goes the better.

Yesterday was the last straw for those on the fence and maybe even some who wanted him to stay.

[The Spaceman]

It now doesn’t matter if results were to pick up. He’s done with us now and when that happens the quicker the manager goes the better.

Yesterday was the last straw for those on the fence and maybe even some who wanted him to stay.

Exactly where I’m at. I really, really, really don’t like managerial turnover and as a club we’ve got it horribly wrong for a significant period (bar Stubbs and debatably Lennon). However, Lee Johnson is a very poor manager who covers up his results with whatever word-salad he can conjure up next to make it sound like he knows what’s he’s doing. He’s a slaver and someone I’ve never taken to at all. He will never manage a club bigger than Hibs. We deserve better and need it now.

[JimBHibees]

Exactly where I’m at. I really, really, really don’t like managerial turnover and as a club we’ve got it horribly wrong for a significant period (bar Stubbs and debatably Lennon). However, Lee Johnson is a very poor manager who covers up his results with whatever word-salad he can conjure up next to make it sound like he knows what’s he’s doing. He’s a slaver and someone I’ve never taken to at all. He will never manage a club bigger than Hibs. We deserve better and need it now.

He already has managed a club bigger than Hibs

[Paulie Walnuts]

He already has managed a club bigger than Hibs

Is managing Sunderland in League One bigger than managing Hibs? Not sure about that.

[JohnM1875]

Is managing Sunderland in League One bigger than managing Hibs? Not sure about that.

I am and it's not.

[Gatecrasher]

I think he'll get the Aberdeen game, then sacked.

This is what I think, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes after that game and Hibs have someone lined up to take charge over the international break. Or am I giving the club too much credit?

[1875M]

This is what I think, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes after that game and Hibs have someone lined up to take charge over the international break. Or am I giving the club too much credit?

This is my thinking as well. I think he’ll be here for the Aberdeen game.

[Exuberance1875]

Radio silence from the club, hopefully means he’s gone, one of the most financially backed managers in the clubs history and he’s got far too big an ego to handle it. Awful awful manager.

[Allant1981]

I backed LJ up until recently, always felt he could turn things around but yesterday was really bad, it was just boring. There's just no trust in either the players or the manager just now from folk in the stands

[Heisenberg]

Radio silence from the club, hopefully means he’s gone, one of the most financially backed managers in the clubs history and he’s got far too big an ego to handle it. Awful awful manager.

They have posted a post match interview with him on the club website along with the match report. Got a feeling he gets to try again at Aberdeen before they make a decision.

[Skol]

One thing we know about mcinnes is that he is loyal. The chances of him leaving Kilmarnock are low. Especially given what he will see about the way hibs have been and are run. And supported if things don’t go well.

I actually think mcinnes would also be a risk. A large chunk of our support didn’t take to Ross. Mcinnes has a record that is not unlike that of Ross. He also has a reputation for some pretty uninspiring football. If he doesn’t get results he could be the next to go. Which goes back to my first point, why would he leave Kilmarnock.

[Hibbyradge]

Will you now accept that we’ve been awful in all 3 league games this season. And it looks like he has no idea what he’s doing.

Why does it matter to you what DH accepts or doesn't accept? :dunno:

No need to pick on him, just gloat privately if you're so inclined.

[Brightside]

Why does it matter to you what DH accepts or doesn't accept? :dunno:

No need to pick on him, just gloat privately if you're so inclined.

What are your thoughts on him now. DH was probably his biggest supporter on here. Actively saying some of us had an agenda. I’d like to know his thoughts on LJ after 3 league games. Does he see any of this improvement he spoke about so much?

[Hibbyradge]

Is managing Sunderland in League One bigger than managing Hibs? Not sure about that.

I don't know how you measure how big a club is - fan base? attendance? value? - but Opta have Sunderland ranked as 127 in the world. Hibs are 843. I think that's in terms of ability not "bigness" but I do think Sunderland is a bigger club than Hibs on pretty much every front.

I don't know how you go about comparing leagues, but I doubt we're any higher than League 1 standard. The wonderful Heckingbottom said we were "League One standard, lower half".

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't know how you measure how big a club is - fan base? attendance? value? - but Opta have Sunderland ranked as 127 in the world. Hibs are 843. I think that's in terms of ability not "bigness" but I do think Sunderland is a bigger club than Hibs on pretty much every front.

I don't know how you go about comparing leagues, but I doubt we're any higher than League 1 standard. The wonderful Heckingbottom said we were "League One standard, lower half".

All fair points but I think you could also balance that out by saying that managing a team like Hibs where you have a reasonable chance of winning 2 domestic cups and also playing European football is bigger than the chance to win the Johnstons Paint Trophy and a 3rd tier title.

I wouldn’t necessarily argue it was a lower standard he was managing at, I don’t think I’d be claiming it was a higher level either though.

[Donegal Hibby]

What are your thoughts on him now. DH was probably his biggest supporter on here. Actively saying some of us had an agenda. I’d like to know his thoughts on LJ after 3 league games. Does he see any of this improvement he spoke about so much?

I always support the Hibs manager as I do my football team . It's what I do ! . I take no delight when we get beat or when a Hibs manager is under pressure and about to lose his job. As to were my thoughts are at the minute I'm afraid they arent on Hibs at the minute as they are very much on the tragic accident that happened in clonmel . County Tipperary. And tbh I can't be bothered at this time with your nit picking and gloating at our football clubs demise tbh .

[Hibby Bairn]

What are your thoughts on him now. DH was probably his biggest supporter on here. Actively saying some of us had an agenda. I’d like to know his thoughts on LJ after 3 league games. Does he see any of this improvement he spoke about so much?

Nothing worse than somebody point scoring. Give it a rest mate.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why does it matter to you what DH accepts or doesn't accept? :dunno:

No need to pick on him, just gloat privately if you're so inclined.

DH done their fair share of having a pop at other posters over the last few weeks when they feel the opportunity has presented itself. If they’re going to do that then they have to be big enough to expect it back.

[jeffers]

He’s going if not already gone.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s going if not already gone.

Praying this comes to fruition.

[JimBHibees]

Nothing worse than somebody point scoring. Give it a rest mate.

Agree

[SteveHFC]

He’s going if not already gone.

Really hope so

[Callum_62]

One thing we know about mcinnes is that he is loyal. The chances of him leaving Kilmarnock are low. Especially given what he will see about the way hibs have been and are run. And supported if things don’t go well.

I actually think mcinnes would also be a risk. A large chunk of our support didn’t take to Ross. Mcinnes has a record that is not unlike that of Ross. He also has a reputation for some pretty uninspiring football. If he doesn’t get results he could be the next to go. Which goes back to my first point, why would he leave Kilmarnock.Does he have a record of uninspiring football?

In his later days at Aberdeen yes but before that I don't think his football was uninspiring at all - infact they were fairly good to watch if I recall

They used to one to ER frustrate and and inevitably win more often than not - I think we looked at that as terrible but if we were doing that at Tynie we would be loving it

Anyway I said it before Johnson we should get McInnes and I wouldn't be against that at all again

I really hope we don't go for Scott brown or Ian Murray or any ex player to be honest

Really it's down to who fits with McDermott

McInnes and McDermott do seem to be very experienced football guys though

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[Trinity Hibee]

I always support the Hibs manager as I do my football team . It's what I do ! . I take no delight when we get beat or when a Hibs manager is under pressure and about to lose his job. As to were my thoughts are at the minute I'm afraid they arent on Hibs at the minute as they are very much on the tragic accident that happened in clonmel . County Tipperary. And tbh I can't be bothered at this time with your nit picking and gloating at our football clubs demise tbh .

Contrary to what you might think no Hibs fan takes joy in us losing. The issue is that it isn’t a surprise when we lose to these lesser teams in the league which probably says enough about the managers position. Many could have predicted that yesterday.

Obviously you’ve been supportive of LJ throughout and the question was what are your thoughts now. It looks like he’s lost a large majority of the fan base after yesterday so anyone still supporting him it would be very interesting to know their reasons why.

I hope you haven’t been personally affected by the accident in clonmel.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Does he have a record of uninspiring football?

In his later days at Aberdeen yes but before that I don't think his football was uninspiring at all - infact they were fairly good to watch if I recall

They used to one to ER frustrate and and inevitably win more often than not - I think we looked at that as terrible but if we were doing that at Tynie we would be loving it

Anyway I said it before Johnson we should get McInnes and I wouldn't be against that at all again

I really hope we don't go for Scott brown or Ian Murray or any ex player to be honest

Really it's down to who fits with McDermott

McInnes and McDermott do seem to be very experienced football guys though

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Agree with all that.

If we were going ex player I’d go for Bartley and that’s even ahead of SDG who’s already here.

Just to be clear though, I absolutely wouldn’t want Bartley either, but he’s the most exciting of the bunch imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

DH done their fair share of having a pop at other posters over the last few weeks when they feel the opportunity has presented itself. If they’re going to do that then they have to be big enough to expect it back.

I've backed and defended the manager when at times I felt he was criticized or called out when I thought it was wrong . I take no delight in HIBERNIAN FOOTBALL current situation though some of you seem to be absolutely riveling in it btw !

[Hibbyradge]

What are your thoughts on him now. DH was probably his biggest supporter on here. Actively saying some of us had an agenda. I’d like to know his thoughts on LJ after 3 league games. Does he see any of this improvement he spoke about so much?

To answer your first question, my thoughts haven't changed. There's enough to criticise him with without exaggerating or inventing faults, or framing every tiny thing he does as problematic. I don't think he's got long left, and after yesterday, that time is even shorter.

Exactly as I've said all along.

Some people have wanted him out from very early on, some wanted him gone before he took his first game, and those people have been bad mouthing him from the start. Didn't you say you never wanted him here? They weren't going to stop taking every opportunity to criticise him until he was gone. What's that if it's not an agenda?

We're bottom of the league with zero points having played three teams who finished below us last season. Nearly everyone thinks he's a "dead man walking" and the players will be no different.

I can't see how he's going to get them motivated enough to win at Pitoddrie or Kilmarnock and we're likely to get humiliated at Villa Park on Thursday so I can't think of any logical reason to prolong the inevitable.

[flash]

Not a single tweet or Facebook post by the club since full time yesterday.
He has to be away surely.

[Hibbyradge]

All fair points but I think you could also balance that out by saying that managing a team like Hibs where you have a reasonable chance of winning 2 domestic cups and also playing European football is bigger than the chance to win the Johnstons Paint Trophy and a 3rd tier title.

I wouldn’t necessarily argue it was a lower standard he was managing at, I don’t think I’d be claiming it was a higher level either though.

The point was whether or not Sunderland was a bigger club than Hibs.

[JimBHibees]

Is managing Sunderland in League One bigger than managing Hibs? Not sure about that.

Surely even you are not arguing Sunderland are not a bigger club than Hibs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I've backed and defended the manager when at times I felt he was criticized or called out when I thought it was wrong . I take no delight in HIBERNIAN FOOTBALL current situation though some of you seem to be absolutely riveling in it btw !

You have. You’ve also taken the opportunity to attempt to take the piss out of folk who you don’t agree with when the opportunity has arisen. Now that it’s being done back to you your greeting about it and telling people there’s no need.

[1875M]

Agree with all that.

If we were going ex player I’d go for Bartley and that’s even ahead of SDG who’s already here.

Just to be clear though, I absolutely wouldn’t want Bartley either, but he’s the most exciting of the bunch imo.

Agreed. This talk of Ian Murray & Scott Brown is purely because they are ex players. Neither have done anything of merit to even be in the discussion for the Hibs job. If I said Hibs were going to appoint a manager in League 1 who is sitting 2nd bottom, but you didn’t know it was Brown, this place would go into meltdown. I think Bartley will have the best career as a coach but he’s still a good few years and probably another club away from Hibs job discussions.

We need someone to come in and make an immediate impact. If you hire the right manager it can happen. We’re bottom of the league and haven’t even played the top 4 teams yet. Ffs.

[JimBHibees]

To answer your first question, my thoughts haven't changed. There's enough to criticise him with without exaggerating or inventing faults, or framing every tiny thing he does as problematic. I don't think he's got long left, and after yesterday, that time is even shorter.

Exactly as I've said all along.

Some people have wanted him out from very early on, some wanted him gone before he took his first game, and those people have been bad mouthing him from the start. Didn't you say you never wanted him here? They weren't going to stop taking every opportunity to criticise him until he was gone. What's that if it's not an agenda?

We're bottom of the league with zero points having played three teams who finished below us last season. Nearly everyone thinks he's a "dead man walking" and the players will be no different.

I can't see how he's going to get them motivated enough to win at Pitoddrie or Kilmarnock and we're likely to get humiliated at Villa Park on Thursday so I can't think of any logical reason to prolong the inevitable.

Very good post agree with all of it. Many have had it in for him since day one for some odd reason.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely even you are not arguing Sunderland are not a bigger club than Hibs.

League One Sunderland, were they bigger than Hibs?

They had no chance of any sort of success in any major competition, no chance of European football, historically they have nothing like the history of Hibs and I’d fancy the League One version of Sunderland would have probably been just about top half of our league.

I’m not sure Sunderland when managed by LJ could really lay claim to being bigger than Hibs.

[JimBHibees]

The point was whether or not Sunderland was a bigger club than Hibs.

Yes it was a simple point.

[JimBHibees]

League One Sunderland, were they bigger than Hibs?

They had no chance of any sort of success in any major competition, no chance of European football, historically they have nothing like the history of Hibs and I’d fancy the League One version of Sunderland would have probably been just about top half of our league.

I’m not sure Sunderland when managed by LJ could really lay claim to being bigger than Hibs.

The point was bigger club which they clearly are. Nothing to do with league they were in.

[BoomtownHibees]

League One Sunderland, were they bigger than Hibs?

They had no chance of any sort of success in any major competition, no chance of European football, historically they have nothing like the history of Hibs and I’d fancy the League One version of Sunderland would have probably been just about top half of our league.

I’m not sure Sunderland when managed by LJ could really lay claim to being bigger than Hibs.

I don’t think what league you’re in determines how big a club you are.

Were the likes of Motherwell a bigger club than The Rangers when they were in the lower leagues?

[S4uzee]

This is what I think, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes after that game and Hibs have someone lined up to take charge over the international break. Or am I giving the club too much credit?

Far too much credit

[Paulie Walnuts]

The point was bigger club which they clearly are. Nothing to do with league they were in.

And at that point in time I’m not sure I’d say they were.

[alexedwards]

The point was whether or not Sunderland was a bigger club than Hibs.

Sunderland are bigger than Hibs. The question re the Board is "If the Board are managing the club on behalf of the owners do the owners now have the experience to manage the Board or is there is now a large hole in directive operations rendering the ship rudderless?"

[Unseen work]

I wonder if mcderrmot see’s this as an oppertunity to get his man in.

Often people wonder if there will be a managerial change after a new DoF is appointed.

Could this be a good excuse for him to bring his own person in that he rates?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t think what league you’re in determines how big a club you are.

Were the likes of Motherwell a bigger club than The Rangers when they were in the lower leagues?

Flip that the other way, are Man City not a big team because historically they’ve never been a big team?

Sunderland in League One weren’t a big team imo. They never had anything to write home about crowd wise, no chance of success of anything of note and a squad that looked suited to being League One. Historically, they’ve won 1
Major trophy in about 90 years. I’m not sure that’s bigger than a team who have won 3 major trophies in the last 30 years, regularly play in European football and have a much richer history in any living persons lifetime.

[Iain G]

I wonder if mcderrmot see’s this as an oppertunity to get his man in.

Often people wonder if there will be a managerial change after a new DoF is appointed.

Could this be a good excuse for him to bring his own person in that he rates?

Who is McDermott's Man?

This sounds like a John Le Carre thriller.

[Hibbyradge]

League One Sunderland, were they bigger than Hibs?

They had no chance of any sort of success in any major competition, no chance of European football, historically they have nothing like the history of Hibs and I’d fancy the League One version of Sunderland would have probably been just about top half of our league.

I’m not sure Sunderland when managed by LJ could really lay claim to being bigger than Hibs.

You're deliberately conflating the quality of the leagues and the abilities of the teams, with the size of the clubs so you don't have to accept you're wrong.

As I pointed out about, League One standard is at least as high as where we sit, but Sunderland beat us hands down on wealth, value and attendance. They also won exactly the same number of major domestic trophies as we did, although unlike us, they won a minor one.

[BoomtownHibees]

Flip that the other way, are Man City not a big team because historically they’ve never been a big team?

Sunderland in League One weren’t a big team imo. They never had anything to write home about crowd wise, no chance of success of anything of note and a squad that looked suited to being League One. Historically, they’ve won 1
Major trophy in about 90 years. I’m not sure that’s bigger than a team who have won 3 major trophies in the last 30 years, regularly play in European football and have a much richer history in any living persons lifetime.

It all depends on your definition of a big club I suppose. Everyone seems to have a different idea of what constitutes a big club. I’m no even sure what it means.

My main point is that a big club shouldn’t be determined by what league the team is in

[Eyrie]

There's not a lot between the clubs when it comes to trophies.

Hibs - four league titles, three Scottish Cups and three League Cups.
Sunderland - six league titles, two FA Cups, no League Cups.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

One thing we know about mcinnes is that he is loyal. The chances of him leaving Kilmarnock are low. Especially given what he will see about the way hibs have been and are run. And supported if things don’t go well.

I actually think mcinnes would also be a risk. A large chunk of our support didn’t take to Ross. Mcinnes has a record that is not unlike that of Ross. He also has a reputation for some pretty uninspiring football. If he doesn’t get results he could be the next to go. Which goes back to my first point, why would he leave Kilmarnock.

Im not quite sure how others don’t see the problem. He’s a Ross steady as she goes kinda guy. The Dons fans were absolutely scunnered with him and his style of play. I can’t see how it would be different with an impatient Hibs fan base.

Perhaps The only saving grace he had was that it was he that stopped the managerial merry-go-round at that club. Perhaps building on what Paw Broon stabilised what was the archetypal basketcase of a club from “Smithy must go”. We can’t turn into them as they were… maybe we are. Think back they had (not in order) Porterfield, Smith (1 point away from League title),
Aitken, Hegarty, W Miller, Skovdhal!!!, A Miller, Tangoman, Broon I’ve probably missed a couple before McInnes.

[Donegal Hibby]

Contrary to what you might think no Hibs fan takes joy in us losing. The issue is that it isn’t a surprise when we lose to these lesser teams in the league which probably says enough about the managers position. Many could have predicted that yesterday.

Obviously you’ve been supportive of LJ throughout and the question was what are your thoughts now. It looks like he’s lost a large majority of the fan base after yesterday so anyone still supporting him it would be very interesting to know their reasons why.

I hope you haven’t been personally affected by the accident in clonmel.

No mate I haven't been personally affected by the accident but most people over here are upset by it all the same , as I am .

I'm not so sure about no Hibs fan taking enjoyment at us losing tbh . It was implied yesterday that some actually wanted us to lose yesterday which is hard to comprehend tbh .

I don't think this particular poster is interested in my views tbh . Only recently I asked a perfectly reasonable question and he came back to insult me . He did actually apologise claiming to have to much vino at the time though I don't think it's a alcohol this time more he's got a gripe with me and see's a opportunity to gloat !

[Donegal Hibby]

You have. You’ve also taken the opportunity to attempt to take the piss out of folk who you don’t agree with when the opportunity has arisen. Now that it’s being done back to you your greeting about it and telling people there’s no need.

I'm not greeting at all and by all means carry on if it makes you and brightside feel good or superior 👍

[tamig]

Flip that the other way, are Man City not a big team because historically they’ve never been a big team?

Sunderland in League One weren’t a big team imo. They never had anything to write home about crowd wise, no chance of success of anything of note and a squad that looked suited to being League One. Historically, they’ve won 1
Major trophy in about 90 years. I’m not sure that’s bigger than a team who have won 3 major trophies in the last 30 years, regularly play in European football and have a much richer history in any living persons lifetime.

This is all very tedious hertz type chat. Does anyone really care? Where is the football definition of “bigness” even documented? Its a childish debate.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Im not quite sure how others don’t see the problem. He’s a Ross steady as she goes kinda guy. The Dons fans were absolutely scunnered with him and his style of play. I can’t see how it would be different with an impatient Hibs fan base.

Perhaps The only saving grace he had was that it was he that stopped the managerial merry-go-round at that club. Perhaps building on what Paw Broon stabilised what was the archetypal basketcase of a club from “Smithy must go”. We can’t turn into them as they were… maybe we are. Think back they had (not in order) Porterfield, Smith (1 point away from League title),
Aitken, Hegarty, W Miller, Skovdhal!!!, A Miller, Tangoman, Broon I’ve probably missed a couple before McInnes.

Aberdeen fans weren’t scunnered with him until the wheels fall off after about 7 years. They were more than happy with him before that.

If we got the McInnes before the wheels fell off, we’d be happy as well. If we got the McInnes after the wheels fell off, we wouldn’t be happy. Obviously it’s a gamble to an extent, but it’s a gamble where the odds would appear massively in our favour.

[Hibbyradge]

Aberdeen fans weren’t scunnered with him until the wheels fall off after about 7 years. They were more than happy with him before that.

If we got the McInnes before the wheels fell off, we’d be happy as well. If we got the McInnes after the wheels fell off, we wouldn’t be happy. Obviously it’s a gamble to an extent, but it’s a gamble where the odds would appear massively in our favour.

I agree.

He's got Killie off to a decent start despite yesterday's late loss, and they knocked Celtic out of the LC.

I wouldn't be unhappy if we appointed him but I doubt he'd come even if we were prepared to pay the compensation.

[eastmainsmsh]

Who is McDermott's Man?

This sounds like a John Le Carre thriller.

Steven Reid or Noel Hunt ?

[Hibbyradge]

Who is McDermott's Man?

This sounds like a John Le Carre thriller.

Super John McGinn?

[blackpoolhibs]

I agree.

He's got Killie off to a decent start despite yesterday's late loss, and they knocked Celtic out of the LC.

I wouldn't be unhappy if we appointed him but I doubt he'd come even if we were prepared to pay the compensation.

If we cant get McInness the lets get Ross back, the one we had before his bad run, sorted.

[Hibbyradge]

If we cant get McInness the lets get Ross back, the one we had before his bad run, sorted.

Get Lennon back. The one we had before he lost his mind.

Or get Mowbray back. The one we had.

[BoomtownHibees]

Or get Mowbray back. The one we had.

Be easy to poach him from the wee team he’s managing now

[Smartie]

League One Sunderland, were they bigger than Hibs?

They had no chance of any sort of success in any major competition, no chance of European football, historically they have nothing like the history of Hibs and I’d fancy the League One version of Sunderland would have probably been just about top half of our league.

I’m not sure Sunderland when managed by LJ could really lay claim to being bigger than Hibs.

If Johnson succeeds at Hibs, he’s still never going to have us in the EPL.

There’s a pathway there if he gets it right at league one Sunderland.

[Hibbyradge]

Be easy to poach him from the wee team he’s managing now

:tee hee:

[Paulie Walnuts]

If Johnson succeeds at Hibs, he’s still never going to have us in the EPL.

There’s a pathway there if he gets it right at league one Sunderland.

By that logic if someone takes over a conference league team then there’s a path way to the EPL and eventually Champions League success. I’m not sure that matters though when determining if they’re a bigger side than us.

[blackpoolhibs]

Get Lennon back. The one we had before he lost his mind.

Or get Mowbray back. The one we had.
Or lets play the famous 5 and a few of the Tornadoes before they got old or died.:greengrin

[Hibs90]

Presuming Hibs are staying silent on social media to avoid toxicity rather than because of him being sacked.

Seems untouchable to be honest.

[Smartie]

By that logic if someone takes over a conference league team then there’s a path way to the EPL and eventually Champions League success. I’m not sure that matters though when determining if they’re a bigger side than us.

About 15 months after Johnson left Sunderland they were in a playoff to get into the EPL, somewhere they’ve been within the last decade and averaged attendances of 40 odd thousand every week.

Sadly they’re a bigger club than us, as was probably proved when McGeouch left our excellent side to go and get plenty more hair transplant tokens than we could afford from them when they were in league one.

[HFC93]

Presuming Hibs are staying silent on social media to avoid toxicity rather than because of him being sacked.

Seems untouchable to be honest.

I think it's odd. In the past we've kept posting even after terrible defeats.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Aberdeen fans weren’t scunnered with him until the wheels fall off after about 7 years. They were more than happy with him before that.

If we got the McInnes before the wheels fell off, we’d be happy as well. If we got the McInnes after the wheels fell off, we wouldn’t be happy. Obviously it’s a gamble to an extent, but it’s a gamble where the odds would appear massively in our favour.

im trying it recall - there was a time when we were doing well in terms of giving the OF a game whilst the Dons bottles were crashing, in addition we were beating them in cup Semis on quite a few occasions until the last couple. Nothing is perfect. I’d just be surprised if we took to him. We’ll see

[Wheat Hound]

I think it's odd. In the past we've kept posting even after terrible defeats.

Agreed. Absolutely zero output after fulltime is unusual. The last 2 league defeats we still had match reports and interviews out within a few hours.

I can only hope it is indicative of change afoot....

[Allant1981]

Agreed. Absolutely zero output after fulltime is unusual. The last 2 league defeats we still had match reports and interviews out within a few hours.

I can only hope it is indicative of change afoot....

They have it on the website

[Earlydelivery]

Not long lads 🙌

[CockneyRebel]

Does McInnes have any say in this or will he just jump ship if we snap our fingers?

[Hibbyradge]

About 15 months after Johnson left Sunderland they were in a playoff to get into the EPL, somewhere they’ve been within the last decade and averaged attendances of 40 odd thousand every week.

Sadly they’re a bigger club than us, as was probably proved when McGeouch left our excellent side to go and get plenty more hair transplant tokens than we could afford from them when they were in league one.

Sunderland could probably take any player they wanted from us, our managers too.

The same does not apply in reverse.

It's actually daft that there's any debate about this.

[GreenGray]

Presuming Hibs are staying silent on social media to avoid toxicity rather than because of him being sacked.

Seems untouchable to be honest.

Worrying if that’s the case


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[Nicho87]

Not long lads 🙌

Until relegation?

[Hibbyradge]

Does McInnes have any say in this or will he just jump ship if we snap our fingers?

A quick double clap and he'll clear his Killie desk.

[DH1875]

What happens when we beat Villa 1-0 on Thursday 🤪.

[Earlydelivery]

Until relegation?
Till he's out the door .. if not already 🙌

[Steve-O]

We could’ve had McInnes for zip instead of the doughnut we have now. Also, Killie were god awful most of last season.

Can see why some might want him but not completely convinced

[Hibbyradge]

What happens when we beat Villa 1-0 on Thursday 🤪.

It goes to penalties.

[BoomtownHibees]

What happens when we beat Villa 1-0 on Thursday 🤪.

SDG might keep the job permanently

[Nicho87]

Till he's out the door .. if not already 🙌

Fingers crossed

[WhileTheChief..]

Very good post agree with all of it. Many have had it in for him since day one for some odd reason.

Speaking for myself only, I never thought he was right for us. It’s not an odd reason or a god damn agenda.

It was a reasoned opinion that has been proved right. Many others thought similarly.

That doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to do well, I just didn’t think he was capable. Nothin he did since he arrived showed me that he was even remotely right for the Hibs job. I expect far, far better.

Just because you couldn’t see it ,doesn’t mean I was wrong. Folk have repeatedly said why they don’t want LJ as manager, giving plenty of valid reasons that you just ignore. You could just take what we say at face value no?

None of us have spent the last few months having digs at you guys, but have regularly been on the end of it. Folk saying we’re attention seekers or having this mythical agenda.

Again, only speaking for myself, it’s been about the football, the signings, the results and LJ in general. It was crystal clear to me that he was never the right man for the job and I was consistent with that. Much better than me posting stuff I don’t believe just to come across as being positive.

[Borderhibbie76]

Till he's out the door .. if not already 🙌

Is that a hunch or do you know something??

[Earlydelivery]

Is that a hunch or do you know something??
He's away .. that's all i'm saying

[Borderhibbie76]

He's away .. that's all i'm saying

I hope beyond hope this is the case mate

[Brightside]

Sunderland could probably take any player they wanted from us, our managers too.

The same does not apply in reverse.

It's actually daft that there's any debate about this.

Agreed. Sunderland are much bigger than hibs.

[bordergreen]

Very good post agree with all of it. Many have had it in for him since day one for some odd reason.

I, like many others, was not enthused when he was appointed, but as a Hibs fan got behind him. I backed him, as backing him, is backing Hibs. I don’t think there was any agenda against him. I just think he is a terrible manager, which is borne out by the bizarre team selections, the rambling excuses and ultimately the results.

I, like I would wager most others who want him gone, would rather we were praising him for a great start to the season and looking forward to the rest of the season with a sense of optimism and excitement.

Let’s all hope, that whoever is replacing him, gives us all something to get behind. We are all Hibbys and we all want the same thing at the end of the day.

GGTTH

[paddy1875]

Speaking for myself only, I never thought he was right for us. It’s not an odd reason or a god damn agenda.

It was a reasoned opinion that has been proved right. Many others thought similarly.

That doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to do well, I just didn’t think he was capable. Nothin he did since he arrived showed me that he was even remotely right for the Hibs job. I expect far, far better.

Just because you couldn’t see it ,doesn’t mean I was wrong. Folk have repeatedly said why they don’t want LJ as manager, giving plenty of valid reasons that you just ignore. You could just take what we say at face value no?

None of us have spent the last few months having digs at you guys, but have regularly been on the end of it. Folk saying we’re attention seekers or having this mythical agenda.

Again, only speaking for myself, it’s been about the football, the signings, the results and LJ in general. It was crystal clear to me that he was never the right man for the job and I was consistent with that. Much better than me posting stuff I don’t believe just to come across as being positive.

This is exactly where I’m at.

His start in the league cup last season was shocking, I tried to afford him some slack but it’s been much of the same since.

Sprinkle in a couple of good results but overall he’s been poor and never in a million years was he good enough for hibs.

The constant tripe spouted by him most weeks is/was so tiresome. He’s had more than enough time to turn the corner and were in exactly the same position as we were when he first walked in the door. The promises of a style of play that’s high pressing etc has not surfaced so people are right to call him out for being a bluffer.

Cupping his ears yesterday after the equaliser only to concede minutes later sums the guy up.


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[blackpoolhibs]

I'd like Jack Ross back or McInness, but i'm not fussed who it is really as long as he sorts the team out and gets us winning games and punching our weight or above.

[Borderhibbie76]

I'd like Jack Ross back or McInness, but i'm not fussed who it is really as long as he sorts the team out and gets us winning games and punching our weight or above.

Just sums it up for me il take McInnes-ball anyway if he gets us beating Sevco and Celtic 1 0 at ER like he has Killie- a manager who is tactically aware and can organise a back 4 to defend properly

[Skol]

I'd like Jack Ross back or McInness, but i'm not fussed who it is really as long as he sorts the team out and gets us winning games and punching our weight or above.

I think the current situation and the route to getting here shows we acted too soon with sacking Ross. I dont think we should re employ him, but I do wonder what would have happened if Ross had remained in post.

[Skol]

Just sums it up for me il take McInnes-ball anyway if he gets us beating Sevco and Celtic 1 0 at ER like he has Killie- a manager who is tactically aware and can organise a back 4 to defend properly

What if you don’t get that from mcinnes?

[blackpoolhibs]

I think the current situation and the route to getting here shows we acted too soon with sacking Ross. I dont think we should re employ him, but I do wonder what would have happened if Ross had remained in post.

I think we'd have won the league cup and finished 3rd.

[Brightside]

I think we'd have won the league cup and finished 3rd.

I’d have Jack back in a second but I think I’m in the minority.

[Hibernian Verse]

I’d have Jack back in a second but I think I’m in the minority.

I’d have him back too

[Borderhibbie76]

What if you don’t get that from mcinnes?

There aren't any guarantees with any manager but he had Aberdeen 2nd and 3rd in his time there and has Killie punching well above their weight - imo we need a safe bet this time around and mine would be McInnes - I accept a lot of Hibs fans will disagree

[500miles]

I’d have Jack back in a second but I think I’m in the minority.

I don't think we are. Anyone I speak to outside of this website thought the JR sacking was garbage.

[Borderhibbie76]

I don't think we are. Anyone I speak to outside of this website thought the JR sacking was garbage.

It was garbage and what we've suffered since under Maloney and now LJ proves that tbh

[JohnM1875]

I don't think we are. Anyone I speak to outside of this website thought the JR sacking was garbage.

In hindsight, sure. But plenty folk I know who don't post on here were happy with the decision.

[bordergreen]

I’d have him back too

Not for me thanks. Could not seem to win the big important games. We seemed to bottle the big games under him. I didn’t dislike him, I just didn’t think he was an inspiring character. I want someone who enthuses the players and has them ready to give everything to win.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't think we are. Anyone I speak to outside of this website thought the JR sacking was garbage.

Whilst no really wanting to start the whole JR debate again, I know plenty folk who thought it was right at the time. A lot of people who were there that night at Livingston when we looked completely all over the place and totally lost our discipline, a week after something very similar up at Ross County, thought his time was up.

I don’t think we should be looking back the way, but that doesn’t just go for Jack Ross. Will actually be surprised if he goes back in to management.

[Skol]

I would t have him back but I wouldn’t have sacked him when we did

[May21/05/216]

Gone

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[Centre Hawf]

I don’t think looking backwards is helpful to us. We used to do it with players and it rarely worked. I was guilty of wanting Stubbs back at times but in hindsight these guys who succeeded here captured lightning in a bottle, I have doubts they can do that a second time round.

Lennon, Ross, Stubbs, Collins, Yogi. It’s not the answer for me.

[Cat Stanton]

Gone

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Is this wishful thinking? Or true?

[Centre Hawf]

Gone

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For the love of god tell me you know something.

[Pretty Boy]

If he is indeed gone then the final 20 seconds of footage from his last interview was some way to go.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

There aren't any guarantees with any manager but he had Aberdeen 2nd and 3rd in his time there and has Killie punching well above their weight - imo we need a safe bet this time around and mine would be McInnes - I accept a lot of Hibs fans will disagree

Does he? Yeah he got them promoted, then they finished bottom six the next season. They look ok this season but it’s only been 4 games. To early to actually say they are punching above their weight, unless you think that they are a Championship club?

[Springbank]

Not for me thanks. Could not seem to win the big important games. We seemed to bottle the big games under him. I didn’t dislike him, I just didn’t thing he was an inspiring character. I want someone who enthuses the players and has them ready to give everything to win.

I was always more confident with Lennon at the helm when it came to derbies

Case in point - we had no right to beat Hearts in 2017 (cup holders derby). They had signed Greek internationalists whereas we had an ageing Grant Holt etc. Yet it was 3 going on 6 in the replay (still think Daz's 4th should have stood) and Lennon took us onto the Natural Order Derby etc.

Then there's Jack Ross
Humbled at Hampden when demoted hearts had hardly played since March. That was a failure of motivation & organisation & I'd have emptied him there & then.

And do not start me on the 1-3 Derby defeat to Stendel at Easter Road pre-covid.

Jack Ross is never the man

[NGoloGrantie]

Would anyone else be happy with Brian McDermott as interim for the time being? Hasn’t been in a managerial position in a long time but had a very impressive stint with reading. Could he potentially steady the ship?


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[Hibbyradge]

I'd like Jack Ross back or McInness, but i'm not fussed who it is really as long as he sorts the team out and gets us winning games and punching our weight or above.

I think both of them would relish the opportunity to work with the firepower and Levitt when he comes back.

The defence needs urgent attention but McInness in particular, is adept at making his teams frugal.

I think it's highly unlikely that either would come to us.

[JohnM1875]

Would anyone else be happy with Brian McDermott as interim for the time being? Hasn’t been in a managerial position in a long time but had a very impressive stint with reading. Could he potentially steady the ship?


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I get the thinking but not sure it's a good idea.

He has an important job to do and should focus on that. If he comes in for a few games and gets pumped then goes back to his current role some folk will always hold it against him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Speaking for myself only, I never thought he was right for us. It’s not an odd reason or a god damn agenda.

It was a reasoned opinion that has been proved right. Many others thought similarly.

That doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to do well, I just didn’t think he was capable. Nothin he did since he arrived showed me that he was even remotely right for the Hibs job. I expect far, far better.

Just because you couldn’t see it ,doesn’t mean I was wrong. Folk have repeatedly said why they don’t want LJ as manager, giving plenty of valid reasons that you just ignore. You could just take what we say at face value no?

None of us have spent the last few months having digs at you guys, but have regularly been on the end of it. Folk saying we’re attention seekers or having this mythical agenda.

Again, only speaking for myself, it’s been about the football, the signings, the results and LJ in general. It was crystal clear to me that he was never the right man for the job and I was consistent with that. Much better than me posting stuff I don’t believe just to come across as being positive.

Great post.

I wanted JDT but I was prepared to give him a chance. I actually stuck up for him and questioned what binning him would achieve around about January I think it was (maybe earlier) because I wasn’t sure what binning him would achieve.

The whole agenda/some folk have never backed him etc thing is a load of pish. One poster who repeatedly goes on about it funnily enough posted that they’d never be able to take to our next manager after JR was sacked, simply because he wasn’t JR. We didn’t even know who it would be at that point. Now that’s an example of folk never having wanted someone if I’ve ever seen one.

[bordergreen]

I don’t think looking backwards is helpful to us. We used to do it with players and it rarely worked. I was guilty of wanting Stubbs back at times but in hindsight these guys who succeeded here captured lightning in a bottle, I have doubts they can do that a second time round.

Lennon, Ross, Stubbs, Collins, Yogi. It’s not the answer for me.

Definitely not. McDermott in interim charge, with some proper diligence done to get the right man. Someone new, with fresh ideas, who can put a settled team on the park and inspire them. MCDermott hopefully has a large say on who comes in too.

[easty]

Cannae really understand anybody not wanting McInnes based on the style of football, but would want Jack Ross back??

The season he was sacked he had us playing abysmal football.

[Gmack7]

Would anyone else be happy with Brian McDermott as interim for the time being? Hasn’t been in a managerial position in a long time but had a very impressive stint with reading. Could he potentially steady the ship?


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I think that's what will happen

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd like Jack Ross back or McInness, but i'm not fussed who it is really as long as he sorts the team out and gets us winning games and punching our weight or above.

You’ll not be surprised to hear I absolutely don’t want JR back, but ignoring that fact, do we reckon he’d want to leave his current post to be a manager in Scotland again? I’m not sure he would.

[S4uzee]

Absolutely not McDermott in interim charge

[JohnM1875]

Speaking for myself only, I never thought he was right for us. It’s not an odd reason or a god damn agenda.

It was a reasoned opinion that has been proved right. Many others thought similarly.

That doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to do well, I just didn’t think he was capable. Nothin he did since he arrived showed me that he was even remotely right for the Hibs job. I expect far, far better.

Just because you couldn’t see it ,doesn’t mean I was wrong. Folk have repeatedly said why they don’t want LJ as manager, giving plenty of valid reasons that you just ignore. You could just take what we say at face value no?

None of us have spent the last few months having digs at you guys, but have regularly been on the end of it. Folk saying we’re attention seekers or having this mythical agenda.

Again, only speaking for myself, it’s been about the football, the signings, the results and LJ in general. It was crystal clear to me that he was never the right man for the job and I was consistent with that. Much better than me posting stuff I don’t believe just to come across as being positive.

Spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself 👍🏻

[easty]

You’ll not be surprised to hear I absolutely don’t want JR back, but ignoring that fact, do we reckon he’d want to leave his current post to be a manager in Scotland again? I’m not sure he would.

Jack Ross won’t be coming back to Hibs. I’m not in the know at all, but that’s just not happening.

[SaulGoodman]

Absolutely not McDermott in interim charge

Why not?

[blackpoolhibs]

Jack Ross won’t be coming back to Hibs. I’m not in the know at all, but that’s just not happening.
Stop it, let me have a few moments of hope.

[Centre Hawf]

Definitely not. McDermott in interim charge, with some proper diligence done to get the right man. Someone new, with fresh ideas, who can put a settled team on the park and inspire them. MCDermott hopefully has a large say on who comes in too.

It doesn’t fill me with massive confidence either I must say. Rather we had a Evans/Daz approach for a few weeks than McDermott personally.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jack Ross won’t be coming back to Hibs. I’m not in the know at all, but that’s just not happening.

Agree. I actually don’t think he’ll manage first team football anywhere again.

[Since90+2]

Be surprised if JR would leave his role at Newcastle.

Probably earning decent money and it's a secure job at a massive club

[blackpoolhibs]

Be surprised if JR would leave his role at Newcastle.

Probably earning decent money and it's a secure job at a massive club

Come on, you are surely not saying Newcastle are a bigger club than Hibs?

[Since452]

Stop it, let me have a few moments of hope.

Yeah would love Jack Ross back. Can't see it happening though. He's got a cushy number now.

[Allant1981]

Thought if they were going to announce a sacking it would have been done by now, he seemed pretty confident he wouldn't get sacked yesterday

[Earlydelivery]

Thought if they were going to announce a sacking it would have been done by now, he seemed pretty confident he wouldn't get sacked yesterday
He's away

[Dr What If?]

Ross is best summed up as being rather uninspiring, bit dull, couldn't find that extra 1% you need in the really big games. He was though, good at getting the results you need against the teams you think we should be getting results against and that is what you need if you want to be high in the league. Under Ross we would not be sitting on zero points and no, he wouldn't have beaten Villa either but we would not have lost 5-0.
If he came back we would win more points but I doubt we would be winning cups or getting excited about any big results. An upgrade yes, but not one to get the juices flowing.
That said I wouldn't be disappointed if it was him, I'd be a lot more confident in our average league games than I am now, don't think I'd be overly excited either.

[Pretty Boy]

Absolutely not McDermott in interim charge

I can't help but think that if McDermott wanted to still be a football manager then he would be. He's got a mixed bag of a career but certainly no worse than plenty others still in work.

He's been out of the front line for 7 years now, I'm just not convinced he has any desire still to be a manager in the way that someone like Steve Kean so clearly did.

[Mikey_1875]

Absolutely not McDermott in interim charge

I agree it would be a crazy decision. The guy is employed as DOF and will have a massive task on his hands in leading the appointment of a new manager. It has taken long enough to get a DOF, let him do the job he has been employed to do and not risk blending the roles.

[Hibbyradge]

Didn't someone said JR was coaching 8 year olds at NUFC?

I don't think that's the case, although he has a role with the youngsters, but would "Head of Coach" development be a more attractive role than manager of a top SPFL club? Would it pay more?

Would he come back to a club which stupidly and irresponsibly sacked him directly before a cup final?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Didn't someone said JR was coaching 8 year olds at NUFC?

I don't think that's the case, although he has a role with the youngsters, but would "Head of Coach" development be a more attractive role than manager of a top SPFL club? Would it pay more?

Would he come back to a club which stupidly and irresponsibly sacked him directly before a cup final?

I don’t think he’ll go into first team management again.

He’ll probably earn just as much if not more in his current role, stay down south where he wants to stay and not have the hassle of being a first team football manager/potentially getting sacked after a matter of months.

[Hibbyradge]

Thought if they were going to announce a sacking it would have been done by now, he seemed pretty confident he wouldn't get sacked yesterday

I got the the opposite impression.

[SHODAN]

Wouldn't take Ross back. United spell aside, he had an atrocious record against Hearts and the OF.

[H18 SFR]

Announcement incoming.

[Cat Stanton]

Can people who keep posting "he's gone" and "he's away" please say where they are hearing this/how they know this?

[jeffers]

He’s definitely gone. Take my word for it.

[Brightside]

Didn't someone said JR was coaching 8 year olds at NUFC?

I don't think that's the case, although he has a role with the youngsters, but would "Head of Coach" development be a more attractive role than manager of a top SPFL club? Would it pay more?

Would he come back to a club which stupidly and irresponsibly sacked him directly before a cup final?

Head of Coach Development. Similar to what he was doing at SFA for a while. He will be in decent money and probably closer to his family. I can’t see him coming back.

[Hibbyradge]

Can people who keep posting "he's gone" and "he's away" please say where they are hearing this/how they know this?

That never happens.

Sometimes because it's been made up. Sometimes because the source was a boy in the pub or the fish man (on a Sunday?)

But also it's because sometimes the source is within the club and they can't be identified. I think that's the case today.

[Ray Donovan]

I've just been forwarded a screenshot of an email saying he's gone.

[Brightside]

Have they tweeted the Pen?

[Jones28]

Stop teasing please people, name a source or say nothing.

[Heisenberg]

Stop cock teasing please people, name a source or say nothing.

When was that ever a thing? Folk started naming sources there wouldn’t be any rumours on here aside from what the Sun/Record print.

[Vault Boy]

Stop cock teasing please people, name a source or say nothing.

Speak for yourself! Tease away.

[H18 SFR]

That never happens.

Sometimes because it's been made up. Sometimes because the source was a boy in the pub or the fish man (on a Sunday?)

But also it's because the source is within the club and they can't be identified. I think that's the case today.

I’ve just posted statement incoming and it came from my trusted friend who is at the club. I always get pelters for not naming her but I’m not naming her.

The abuse I got when I posted Melkerson was injured in a closed door game put me off sharing here but the statement is incoming.

[Hibbyradge]

Stop cock teasing please people, name a source or say nothing.

I think you've misunderstood the meaning of that expression.

Either that you're an entirely new and original type of perv! :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Speak for yourself! Tease away.

Not you as well?

:tee hee:

[MelbourneHibees]

So statement at 1pm?

[BoomtownHibees]

Stop cock teasing please people, name a source or say nothing.

This

[Jones28]

This

Cheers

[jeffers]

I’ve just posted statement incoming and it came from my trusted friend who is at the club. I always get pelters for not naming her but I’m not naming her.

The abuse I got when I posted Melkerson was injured in a closed door game put me off sharing here but the statement is incoming.

And neither you should. Naming a source is a sure fire way of never getting told anything in future.

[S4uzee]

This

How on earth does that get out if true . Our club is amateur

[jeffers]

Hardly a surprise but SDG interim again.

[Jones28]

I think you've misunderstood the meaning of that expression.

Either that you're an entirely new and original type of perv! :greengrin

I’ll leave that up to you 😂😂

[JohnM1875]

How on earth does that get out if true . Our club is amateur

How? Looks likes it's been sent to a member of staff who's then shared it. Not the club's fault at all.

[Allant1981]

This

I can't make it out at all but guessing it says bye bye lee

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

How on earth does that get out if true . Our club is amateur

Very poor to leak this out by whoever in the club done it. Just accept the news and wait for it to go public. The email was marked Private & Confidential FFS.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

How? Looks likes it's been sent to a member of staff who's then shared it. Not the club's fault at all.

They shouldn’t be sharing it at all.

[JohnM1875]

They shouldn’t be sharing it at all.

Totally agree.

[Allant1981]

Official now

[Centre Hawf]

And neither you should. Naming a source is a sure fire way of never getting told anything in future.

Always find it mental when someone asks “source?!” To these things.

[MelbourneHibees]

Official

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1695768144789340653?t=_iuNaIqOVfpaH4yIhXZhrQ&s=19

[SteveHFC]

Yasss

[GreenPJ]

Very poor to leak this out by whoever in the club done it. Just accept the news and wait for it to go public. The email was marked Private & Confidential FFS.

:agree: if they get their jotters for sharing they can't have any complaints. Its for the club to announce to the broader population if a change is being made, not an employee.

[GreenGray]

Thank god that is over.


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[Jones28]

And there it is. Relieved.

[pacoluna]

How many life's does David gray get? Legend or not.

[Greenio]

Poor form for it to leak like that.

I honestly thought he would get a couple more throws of the dice, but then watching his interview changed my mind.

Oh well, here we go again eh

[Bad Habits]

Shame, I really liked him but there's been no progression.

[jeffers]

Who is Stuart Garden ?

[SlickShoes]

Very poor to leak this out by whoever in the club done it. Just accept the news and wait for it to go public. The email was marked Private & Confidential FFS.

Whoever did this should be fired, no doubt about it.

['mon the beers]

Kensell should be away too

[JohnM1875]

How many life's does David gray get? Legend or not.

Crazy eh?

[Chorley Hibee]

How on earth does that get out if true . Our club is amateur

Staff acting in the manner that our CEO does.

Unprofessionalism throughout the club.

[BoomtownHibees]

Who is Stuart Garden ?

Goalie coach

[SHODAN]

Lee Johnson't

[Trinity Hibee]

Whoever did this should be fired, no doubt about it.

Agreed. Marked private and confidential too. All for what? To show to their mates they knew what was happening? Pathetic

[Allant1981]

Who is Stuart Garden ?

Is he not the guy who coaches the goalkeepers?

[jeffers]

Goalie coach

Aaah cheers.

[Chorley Hibee]

Whoever did this should be fired, no doubt about it.

CEO shouldn't be surprised that his staff are taking a leaf from his own book.

[Irish_Steve]

How many life's does David gray get? Legend or not.

It's not exactly SDG's fault he gets the gig every time we punt a manager - he has said on many an occasion that he doesn't want the job full time

[blackpoolhibs]

Great decision, well done for acting so quickly.:top marks

Hearts midget should never have been appointed in the first place, come on Hibs get someone in who knows how to bloody organise a defence and midfield.

[Mikey_1875]

100% the correct decision. The club now need to strike the right balance in the amount of time this takes to get a replacement. While we don’t want to rush things it’s important that we get this season back on track quickly. Definitely by the end of the international break, ideally earlier.

[Hibbyradge]

And there it is. Relieved.

You're disgusting.

[Vault Boy]

Yaaaaaasssssss

[eastterrace]

Agreed. Marked private and confidential too. All for what? To show to their mates they knew what was happening? Patheticjust be glad he is gone and who cares if was leaked everyone was wanting some sort off gossip. Good riddance.

[Hiber-nation]

Who is Stuart Garden ?

Goalie coach isn't he?

[Jones28]

You're disgusting.

Ooh yeah.

If I could do the slipper slap smilie from my phone I would.

[Hibby70]

CEO shouldn't be surprised that his staff are taking a leaf from his own book.

It was probably BK himself.

[Hibbyradge]

Ooh yeah.

If I could do the slipper slap smilie from my phone I would.

:slipper:

Oh man, what have you done to me?

[ManlyOz]

Gone where "down the pub" or gone home?

He’s defo down the pub now 🍻🍻🍻

[Stuart93]

Thank ****, guy was an absolute diddy.

Can we now sack the person who’s made these managerial appointments.

[LaMotta]

The leaked email:

27161

[Smartie]

The leaked email:

27161

If we’re having a night of the long knives, the person who leaked that needs to be found and punted next.

[MelbourneHibees]

If we’re having a night of the long knives, the person who leaked that needs to be found and punted next.

Probably Lee.

[Liberal Hibby]

The leaked email:

27161

That's outrageous. Whoever leaked it should follow Johnson out of the door.

[Swedish hibee]

The personal abuse on here is vile.
No need after he's gone.

[Hibbyradge]

If we’re having a night of the long knives, the person who leaked that needs to be found and punted next.

Just another to add to the list.

Johnson
Kensall
Gray
Hanlon
Stevenson
Most of the other players
The Gordons
The person who sent their mate a copy of the email.

Mind you, I don't think they'll be mates for long when he/she finds out it ended up on social media.

[Allant1981]

The personal abuse on here is vile.
No need after he's gone.

Been like that since johnson was appointed from some

[Jones28]

If we’re having a night of the long knives, the person who leaked that needs to be found and punted next.

Agree with this, but when your CEO is in pubs blabbing the team to punters before games then it’s no surprise that secrecy is not something valued by staff members.

[LaMotta]

If we’re having a night of the long knives, the person who leaked that needs to be found and punted next.


That's outrageous. Whoever leaked it should follow Johnson out of the door.

Sent to all Hibs staff. Could have been anyone I suppose.

[blackpoolhibs]

That's outrageous. Whoever leaked it should follow Johnson out of the door.
Is that not BK's laptop?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thank **** for that.

[Jones28]

:slipper:

Oh man, what have you done to me?

😂

One of the best things on Hibs.net imo