The world cup thread

[Forza Fred]

Jamie MacLaren played at the last one and may well have still be on loan at Hibs at the time.

Don’t think he actually got on the park though.

Was called into the squad at the last minute after he scored a hat trick against Rangers in the 5-5 draw.

I was thinking the same thing and off the top of my head thought it would be John Blackley or Erik Shaedler back in 74.

[Forza Fred]

Thought it was really harsh and unfair to be honest the slagging Cummings has taken from a Australian legend . What was he meant to do against one of the best teams in the world when they were totally out played ?

Who was the ‘Legend’ you refer to?

[MWHIBBIES]

One before that maybe de la Cruz ? Just a guess mind 🤞

Latapy 2006.

[Smartie]

Was Milligan not a Hibs player at the last World Cup?

[Iain G]

When did an ex-Hibs player last play at a World Cup, let alone a current one? Not watching the tournament but what a moment for Cummings it must be said.

Jackson Irvine from the start in the game last night?

[oneone73]

Also Sol Bamba?

[HibeeHibernia]

Why does winning one specific trophy make you the greatest? What about the fact Messi has just won just short of 40 trophies compared to Maradonas 10? Or Messis 800 goals to Maradonas 350ish? Or Messi’s 17 years (and counting) at the absolute pinnacle of football compares to Maradonas 9 or so? Messi’s 4 European Cups to Maradonas 0?

Yet one World Cup, played out over a matter of weeks makes you the best ever?

why does Messi need a world cup medal to put bed he is the best of his era if it is that unimportant? Maradona done more in the game full of the charlie than these two will ever do haha I would have loved to have seen messi at napoli in the 80s getting souness-esque challenges I can assure you he wouldn't have even half of maradonas total goal tally. If I had to pick between a european cup winners medal or a world cup winners medal there is only one winner the world cup is the pinnacle of football mate.

[HibeeHibernia]

And even that one world cup boils down to two 1 on 1s. Maradonas striker scored, Messis missed. Both against Germany too.

Diego never won the Copa America either. Messi became the first player to get most goals, most assists and best player at a major tournament as he carried Argentina to it.

aye because the copa america is bigger than the world cup right enough mate lol

[HibeeHibernia]

Go on YouTube and find a Messi getting hacked compilation. Both him and Ronaldo have been subjected to some.horrific career Ender's, often without a red or yellow produced.

To so simply compare the different eras is lazy, the players that Messi has had to deal with are all absolute athletes, bigger, stronger, tactically better and technically superior to the era of Diego.

Maradonna also had major substance ahuse issues and rarely played a full seasons fixtures. He had 1 season in his career where he managed over 30 goals in a season. Messi has had 13.

i can assure they won't be half as bad as what maradona had to endure haha have you seen the souness tackle compilation on youtube? those challenges were standard in the 80s, many a great had to give up the game due to injury because of the challenges players were allowed to get away with then mate. As Paddy stanton always says is doesn't matter what era you played in if you were good then you would be good today, the only thing that has changed today is obviously diet and fitness levels I'm sure these from years ago would have adapted perfectly fine to this modern game, Maradona playing today in this non contact sport we now call football would run riot imo.

[Sir David Gray]

Was Milligan not a Hibs player at the last World Cup?

No he didn't join us until after the last World Cup.

[HibeeHibernia]

No he didn't join us until after the last World Cup.

did he no join us in january 2018 mate? sure he was only with us till that summer though iirc

[Trinity Hibee]

did he no join us in january 2018 mate? sure he was only with us till that summer though iirc

Think that was maclaren. Milligan was after that WC I’m sure

[HibeeHibernia]

Think that was maclaren. Milligan was after that WC I’m sure

Aye you are right it was the 2018/19 season mate

[Sir David Gray]

did he no join us in january 2018 mate? sure he was only with us till that summer though iirc

No he was definitely with us from August 2018-May 2019.

[Paulie Walnuts]

why does Messi need a world cup medal to put bed he is the best of his era if it is that unimportant? Maradona done more in the game full of the charlie than these two will ever do haha I would have loved to have seen messi at napoli in the 80s getting souness-esque challenges I can assure you he wouldn't have even half of maradonas total goal tally. If I had to pick between a european cup winners medal or a world cup winners medal there is only one winner the world cup is the pinnacle of football mate.

Maradona done more in the game than those two will ever do despite the fact that Messi has won 4 times the amount of trophies and scored well over double the goals (and counting) whilst doing it for near enough twice as long. Similar could be said for Ronaldo.

Makes sense.

[bigwheel]

Maradona done more in the game than those two will ever do despite the fact that Messi has won 4 times the amount of trophies and scored well over double the goals (and counting) whilst doing it for near enough twice as long. Similar could be said for Ronaldo.

Makes sense.

Are Longevity and medals key criteria for greatest of all time ? Is the greatest musician the one who has had the most record sales ?? Or most music awards ?

These are all incredible footballers we are talking about aren’t they ..will deservedly be remembered for eternity likely ..I think it’s valid to put Maradona up there with those very best , even though he didn’t have the same length of career and as much a haul of medals ..because even if the community of wonderful players , he stands aloft with the very best ..

[Stairway 2 7]

Both couldn't lace Gordon Smiths boots

[hibsbollah]

Another four games today, Germany Japan looks the pick of them at 1pm, the Japanese have so many players at top European clubs now, lots of options up front, and I was very impressed with the boy at Frankfurt in the champions league group stages. A definite possibility of an upset. I’d like to get a look at Morocco this morning too but sadly have to work as well.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Are Longevity and medals key criteria for greatest of all time ? Is the greatest musician the one who has had the most record sales ?? Or most music awards ?

These are all incredible footballers we are talking about aren’t they ..will deservedly be remembered for eternity likely ..I think it’s valid to put Maradona up there with those very best , even though he didn’t have the same length of career and as much a haul of medals ..because even if the community of wonderful players , he stands aloft with the very best ..

Of course they are key criteria, there’s not a sport in the world where the greatest players haven’t had a significant amount of longevity and/or honours.

I don’t disagree Maradona is up there. I massively disagree with the idea that Ronaldo and Messi couldn’t lace his boots and have achieved half as much despite the fact they’ve probably achieved twice as much or more by almost every measure. And I massively disagree with the laughable idea that the big bad defenders of the 80s would have put a stop to Messi and Ronaldo.

[green day]

Maybe we should just agree that all three of those guys were some of the best players ever to have graced the game and leave it at that?

Its like suggestions that Bjorn Borg couldnt live with tennis players today as he wasnt as fit / didnt have the same equipment.

These debates are all daft as they cant be answered.

[bigwheel]

Maybe we should just agree that all three of those guys were some of the best players ever to have graced the game and leave it at that?

Its like suggestions that Bjorn Borg couldnt live with tennis players today as he wasnt as fit / didnt have the same equipment.

These debates are all daft as they cant be answered.

[emoji106]

[Since90+2]

It's a question that can never be answered, which is why it sometimes makes for the best debates.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's a question that can never be answered, which is why it sometimes makes for the best debates.

:agree:

[Bristolhibby]

Did Sol Bamba not go to the WC in 2010? Don’t recall if he played at all.

J

[Tyler Durden]

Looking forward to seeing Morocco, think they could surprise a few. Good quality through the team, especially Hakimi who will be dangerous from free kicks.

[hibsbollah]

Looking forward to seeing Morocco, think they could surprise a few. Good quality through the team, especially Hakimi who will be dangerous from free kicks.

I heard them being described as having the best full back pair in the world. quite a claim.

[Aldo]

End to end and pretty open so far! Both teams going for it!


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[easty]

Hartson saying it’s definitely a foul. I’m not convinced. Modric catches him, but it’s not a reckless challenge, and he wins the ball clearly and fairly first.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Did Sol Bamba not go to the WC in 2010? Don’t recall if he played at all.

J

Craig Levein went to the WC in 1986, he never played. 😀

[blackpoolhibs]

Craig Levein went to the WC in 1986, he never played. 😀
:faf:

[Stairway 2 7]

Both teams look really good

[Donegal Hibby]

Who was the ‘Legend’ you refer to?
Sorry , hear is the article .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-rinsed-minging-world-28560627

[J-C]

Maybe we should just agree that all three of those guys were some of the best players ever to have graced the game and leave it at that?

Its like suggestions that Bjorn Borg couldnt live with tennis players today as he wasnt as fit / didnt have the same equipment.

These debates are all daft as they cant be answered.

👍 although some folk still like an argument on here and will continue it.

[JeMeSouviens]

Craig Levein went to the WC in 1986, he never played. 😀

:greengrin:top marks

[Up-the-slope]

am i the only one who thinks we have seen very little replays of any potentially controversial incidents in every game so far... as if TV broadcaster who feeds to all nations has been instructed not to... to prevent VAR controversies :dunno:

it is another spoiler of the game as you watch 80 + mins of often soporific play and its the moments like that which make the game interesting ... Loverens potential handball in this game being a case in point... non the wiser as to whether it was hand ball / whether in or outside box.... but 6 replays of a half chance / basic keeper save

[basehibby]

Sorry , hear is the article .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-rinsed-minging-world-28560627
Pretty unfair on Cummings as Australia's whole team barely touched the ball last 30 mins and seemed intent on pissing about at the back with it when they did. Not knocking McLaren but don't think he'd have done any better.

[basehibby]

am i the only one who thinks we have seen very little replays of any potentially controversial incidents in every game so far... as if TV broadcaster who feeds to all nations has been instructed not to... to prevent VAR controversies :dunno:

it is another spoiler of the game as you watch 80 + mins of often soporific play and its the moments like that which make the game interesting ... Loverens potential handball in this game being a case in point... non the wiser as to whether it was hand ball / whether in or outside box.... but 6 replays of a half chance / basic keeper save

Very true and quite perplexing even if an unexpected bonus after watching the farcical rollout of VAR in Scotland.

Even more perplexing is the enormous amount of "injury time" being added in every game. 2nd half of France vs Oz last night there was not a single stoppage and zero time wasting yet the ref added on 8 mins!

[J-C]

Pretty unfair on Cummings as Australia's whole team barely touched the ball last 30 mins and seemed intent on pissing about at the back with it when they did. Not knocking McLaren but don't think he'd have done any better.

Cummings was a lone striker chasing shadows, what was he expecting.

[Aldo]

Cummings was a lone striker chasing shadows, what was he expecting.

They all chased shadows from about 20 minutes in.


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[Forza Fred]

Sorry , hear is the article .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-rinsed-minging-world-28560627

If Kalac is a “Legend”..then I am a fully paid up member of both Hearts and Rangers supporters clubs.

The man is a plum.

If anyone knows minging, it’s him….and his 2006 World Cup finals appearance against Croatia was definitely in the minging category.

Minging is not a word used or understood by 90% of Australians, so he obviously was seeking an opportunity to use it well in advance of the game, just for ‘shock’ purposes.

[SHODAN]

Heading for a third 0-0 and we're not even halfway through the first week. Not great.

[Donegal Hibby]

If Kalac is a “Legend”..then I am a fully paid up member of both Hearts and Rangers supporters clubs.

The man is a plum.

If anyone knows minging, it’s him….and his 2006 World Cup finals appearance against Croatia was definitely in the minging category.

Minging is not a word used or understood by 90% of Australians, so he obviously was seeking an opportunity to use it well in advance of the game, just for ‘shock’ purposes.
He definitely does seem to be a prized plum alright. Between him and rag of a paper both best ignored 👍

[HibeeHibernia]

Both couldn't lace Gordon Smiths boots

hard to disagree with that mate haha :top marks:flag:

[HibeeHibernia]

Maradona done more in the game than those two will ever do despite the fact that Messi has won 4 times the amount of trophies and scored well over double the goals (and counting) whilst doing it for near enough twice as long. Similar could be said for Ronaldo.

Makes sense.

do you not think there is a real lack of quality within modern game today? the last real superstars of football for me played 15/20 years ago, they may be fitter today but they are mince technically. You and many think messi is the greatest of all time but if you are going on stats pele is surely? Im no having messi or ronaldo being better than maradona though sorry but none of those two would do what he done for napoli and none of them will win a world cup either.

[cabbageandribs1875]

just tuned in the last five minutes


has it been a good game :greengrin

[easty]

This second half has been tough to watch.

[SteveHFC]

https://media.tenor.com/mpT7g4gxq8EAAAAd/the-simpsons-homer-simpson.gif

[bigwheel]

Another 0-0. These group stages haven’t yet come alive in the first round ..perhaps understandably

[Donegal Hibby]

Was looking up on Luka modric, what a career he's had and at 37 he's still playing at the highest level , the amount of stuff the guys won is some achievement. He would have to come into the category as one of the current greatest players in the world , wouldn't he ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Modri%C4%87

[GreenCastle]

Another 0-0. These group stages haven’t yet come alive in the first round ..perhaps understandably

Teams don’t want to lose 1st game - happened last few tournaments group stages can be tame.

Will be interesting what happens when they expand the number of teams at world cups.

Expecting Germany v Japan to have some goals surely.

Also the gap between teams around the world definitely closing - feels like an under dog could go far in this tournament.

[hibsbollah]

Was looking up on Luka modric, what a career he's had and at 37 he's still playing at the highest level , the amount of stuff the guys won is some achievement. He would have to come into the category as one of the current greatest players in the world , wouldn't he ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Modri%C4%87

Yes. In an era without Messi and Ronaldo he’d be lauded far more than he is. I’d put him in the same bracket as a Platini or a Zico. An incredible career.

[Tyler Durden]

Baffled that Japan left Kyogo at home and will start with Maeda up top.
Hard working player but he’s not a finisher.

Think Germany win this by a few

[Dmas]

Teams don’t want to lose 1st game - happened last few tournaments group stages can be tame.

Will be interesting what happens when they expand the number of teams at world cups.

Expecting Germany v Japan to have some goals surely.

Also the gap between teams around the world definitely closing - feels like an under dog could go far in this tournament.

I can’t believe out of the 3 Japanese players at Celtic he’s chosen maeda to take 👀

[Dmas]

Baffled that Japan left Kyogo at home and will start with Maeda up top.
Hard working player but he’s not a finisher.

Think Germany win this by a few

Must have some midfield so leave the other guy at home as well

[Tyler Durden]

I heard them being described as having the best full back pair in the world. quite a claim.

Struggling to think of a better pair now that you mention it???

Every top team seem to have a relative weakness on one side.

[SteveHFC]

Japan's shirt is lovely.

[Mon Dieu4]

Germany can normally be relied on in the **** hot shirt stakes, not this time

[Dmas]

Japan's shirt is lovely.

Away one is a thing of beauty as well

[HoboHarry]

I can’t believe out of the 3 Japanese players at Celtic he’s chosen maeda to take 👀
Nevertheless, he was close to a glorious start there.....

[Mon Dieu4]

What a strange atmosphere or lack of it rather

[hibsbollah]

Struggling to think of a better pair now that you mention it???

Every top team seem to have a relative weakness on one side.

Well that’s the pairing broken already; the left back from Bayern stretchered off with what looks like a muscle injury, replaced by a boy who’s never left the Moroccan league.

You have to worry about the smaller countries later in the competition to deal with injuries, a lot of these players have had no rest in mid season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

do you not think there is a real lack of quality within modern game today? the last real superstars of football for me played 15/20 years ago, they may be fitter today but they are mince technically. You and many think messi is the greatest of all time but if you are going on stats pele is surely? Im no having messi or ronaldo being better than maradona though sorry but none of those two would do what he done for napoli and none of them will win a world cup either.

No, I think the quality is higher than ever, much like near enough all other sports. Watching clips of older football compared to modern football is night and day. The pace players play at now is obscene compared to years gone by. Technique wise they’re lightyears ahead now imo.

Pele is poorer than Messi and Ronaldo statistically. He won significantly less trophies than Messi and slightly less than Ronaldo and scored less goals than both.

[Sylar]

What a strange atmosphere or lack of it rather

Was thinking that too - reminds me of the closed door Covid games at times.

[Donegal Hibby]

What a strange atmosphere or lack of it rather
Now if you were a hertz fan you'd probably think the place was buzzing 😁

[Mon Dieu4]

What's the goalie doing tam?

[easty]

Germany 1-0

Penalty

The German boy dives, tries to get up and is fouled. Is it not a freekick to Japan for the German dive? Is that not a stoppage?

[Donegal Hibby]

Germany look better than I thought they'd be , Japan's been really poor.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Germany 1-0

Penalty

The German boy dives, tries to get up and is fouled. Is it not a freekick to Japan for the German dive? Is that not a stoppage?

Just turned it on as the pen was about to be taken so haven’t seen the incident but I’d say so yes.

Not sure VAR can check for that though?

[marinello59]

Germany 1-0

Penalty

The German boy dives, tries to get up and is fouled. Is it not a freekick to Japan for the German dive? Is that not a stoppage?

I thought it as a dive as well so play should have stopped at that point. The ref obviously decided the German player had committed no offence though so given it’s a subjective decision I’m not so sure VAR applies.

[JeMeSouviens]

Just turned it on as the pen was about to be taken so haven’t seen the incident but I’d say so yes.

Not sure VAR can check for that though?

I haven't seen it yet either, but I think they are allowed to overturn goals or penalties if there's a foul in the build up, so that should count as checkable.

[Sylar]

Germany look better than I thought they'd be , Japan's been really poor.

Your expectations must have been really low for them I'm guessing - Germans look bang average to me. SOME nice play, but a lot of errors and missed opportunities.

[Donegal Hibby]

I thought it as a dive as well so play should have stopped at that point. The ref obviously decided the German player had committed no offence though so given it’s a subjective decision I’m not so sure VAR applies.
I thought there was contact from the keeper and it was a penalty.

[easty]

I thought there was contact from the keeper and it was a penalty.

The first time the guy went down?? Didn’t look like any contact to me. I’d have to see it again.

There was definitely plenty contact the second time he went down.

[JeMeSouviens]

German team protest the armband ban:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQLS0LXEAoLSTd?format=jpg&name=medium

Meanwhile FIFA goes for all-time hypocrisy award - https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/fifa-investigates-ecuador-fans-homophobic-chants-2022-11-23/?taid=637e1962062732000136ecc0&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

:rolleyes:

[Mon Dieu4]

Your expectations must have been really low for them I'm guessing - Germans look bang average to me. SOME nice play, but a lot of errors and missed opportunities.

That's my take on it too, out of the big hitters only England and France have looked decent so far, Spain, Belgium, Brazil and possibly Portugal to go

[McSwanky]

German team protest the armband ban:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQLS0LXEAoLSTd?format=jpg&name=medium

Meanwhile FIFA goes for all-time hypocrisy award - https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/fifa-investigates-ecuador-fans-homophobic-chants-2022-11-23/?taid=637e1962062732000136ecc0&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

:rolleyes:Either that or they're big fans of Cumdog's goal celebration

[marinello59]

I thought there was contact from the keeper and it was a penalty.

I don’t think there was initially, contact after the player had hit the deck though.

[marinello59]

Your expectations must have been really low for them I'm guessing - Germans look bang average to me. SOME nice play, but a lot of errors and missed opportunities.

I had this one down as a potential upset. The German’s really aren’t very good at all.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/316682095_5693396934054796_91605096402101657_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=Gtxkix158lcAX93Pusd&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfD4X-E4aB2BWZ5DwEpIFMG-RwXH357RUHNpZk2q1qSmQw&oe=6383EAFA

[macca70]

Your expectations must have been really low for them I'm guessing - Germans look bang average to me. SOME nice play, but a lot of errors and missed opportunities.

Thought they looked really good, moving the ball quick, plenty movement, pressing Japan into loads of mistakes and majority of the game has been played in Japans half.

[Donegal Hibby]

No Boyle for rest of season

[Pretty Boy]

Some of these group games have been absolutely howling in terms of quality and entertainment.

[Mon Dieu4]

Some of these group games have been absolutely howling in terms of quality and entertainment.

I may be looking back with rose tinted specs but the Brazil world cup seemed to have lots of teams that just gave it a right good go, been nothing like that this time

[Mon Dieu4]

What a save that was

[Aldo]

What a save that was

And then miss


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[Donegal Hibby]

Your expectations must have been really low for them I'm guessing - Germans look bang average to me. SOME nice play, but a lot of errors and missed opportunities.
Been awful this half , think I will withdraw my original remarks 😉

[Aldo]

It’s been coming GOOOOOOAAAALLLL


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[cabbageandribs1875]

serves yi right Germany ;(

[wookie70]

No Boyle for rest of season
That is horrendous news. We are so much poorer without Boyler

[Mon Dieu4]

What a goal

[Aldo]

WOW what a goal


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[hibsbollah]

I fancied Japan in this one, delighted!

[cabbageandribs1875]

serves yi right Germany x 2

[J-C]

Coupon buster again, the bookies must be rubbing their hands at these scores.

[Mon Dieu4]

I don't see this one as that big a shock, only need to look at the quality of Celtics Japanese players to see they have quality

[SteveHFC]

Scenes

[cabbageandribs1875]

keeper should never ever ever get beat at the near post














well, nearly never ever


thank goodness for France, and hopefully Brazil

[HoboHarry]

Hadn't realised that Gotze was still playing at international level.

[Irish_Steve]

Thought Super Sally was going to spontaneously combust there!

[Mon Dieu4]

Thought Super Sally was going to spontaneously combust there!

I like that he gets genuinely excited over games, so much better than the likes of Keown or Jenas

[hibsbollah]

Hadn't realised that Gotze was still playing at international level.

Surprising because he doesn’t always get a game for Eintracht Frankfurt. The German pundit I was listening to who’s name escapes me was saying he’s considered well past his best despite only being 30.

[Jones28]

Thought Super Sally was going to spontaneously combust there!

I love him as commentator.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Germany look almost as poor as Argentina. Two of the traditional big guns seem mediocre this time around. The likes of France, England and Brazil won't be afraid of them.

[MWHIBBIES]

That comfortable England win is looking better all the time sadly.

[hibsbollah]

I like that he gets genuinely excited over games, so much better than the likes of Keown or Jenas

:agree: He seems to be enjoying his job. He’s like the anti Lawrenson. Now there was a pundit I’m glad we don’t have to watch anymore.

[Hibernia&Alba]

:agree: He seems to be enjoying his job. He’s like the anti Lawrenson. Now there was a pundit I’m glad we don’t have to watch anymore.

What a walloper he is.

[hibsbollah]

The tv directors definitely been told not to focus on claims for pens or contentious VAR.

[Irish_Steve]

I love him as commentator.

So do I as he is normally very fair but his voice went through the roof describing the German defending at the goal

[marinello59]

Well done Japan. :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

Think that's Germany out , can't see them taking points of Spain .

[Aldo]

Thought Super Sally was going to spontaneously combust there!

Think he’s a really good co-commentator!


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Well done Japan. :greengrin

What a great moment for them, to beat Germany in a World Cup match.

[SteveHFC]

Germany going out before Japan yet again.

[MWHIBBIES]

Germany going out before Japan yet again.

:faf:

[SHODAN]

As someone with Polish and Austrian ancestry... Hahahahahahahaha

[HoboHarry]

The Germans tripped up by an Asian team again.....

[Jim44]

Looking at performances and results so far England must be fancying their chances.

[SteveHFC]

Looking at performances and results so far England must be fancying their chances.

France will beat them in the last 8.

[silverhibee]

That comfortable England win is looking better all the time sadly.

Just said that to my son.

[silverhibee]

Think he’s a really good co-commentator!


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Was spoken to by security after Japans second goal. :greengrin

[gbhibby]

There have some contact in the box this world cup that would have been given as penalties in Scotland by VAR, hope the Scottish refs are watching.
Brilliant Japan,not a team that many in the competition will relish playing against.

[HoboHarry]

There have some contact in the box this world cup that would have been given as penalties in Scotland by VAR, hope the Scottish refs are watching.
Brilliant Japan,not a team that many in the competition will relish playing against.
They haven't been watching for years or they would get to major finals like this. The Lanarkshire Referees mafia will continue to beat their own (orange) drum.

[Jim44]

Looking at performances and results so far England must be fancying their chances.


France will beat them in the last 8.

I’m not suggesting that England will win …… just that they will be gaining confidence and enjoying watching favoured teams struggling. I’m surprised that none of the English pundits/commentators have ventured to suggest this. Maybe they’ve learned a lesson and don’t want to put the monkey’s curse on them. Another couple of surprise results will see them not being able to contain themselves and it’ll be full-on ‘football’s coming home’. :greengrin

[Jim44]

Spaniards not singing their national anthem ……. was it a protest against FIFA’s ‘one love’ armband ban?

[Sylar]

Spaniards not singing their national anthem ……. was it a protest against FIFA’s ‘one love’ armband ban?

Scottish Old Firm players have been doing that before it was cool.

[SJNB Hibby]

Spaniards not singing their national anthem ……. was it a protest against FIFA’s ‘one love’ armband ban?

The Spanish anthem doesn't have words

[Jim44]

The Spanish anthem doesn't have words

Correctimundo ……. just Googled it and it appears that during Franco’s reign, words were put to it. I assume that it’s an anti Franco protest. :dunno:

[Mon Dieu4]

Spain look in the mood

[Aldo]

Was spoken to by security after Japans second goal. :greengrin

Really. That’s brilliant!


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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Think he’s a really good co-commentator!


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He is, it's like having a boy from the pub commentating for you, he gets genuinely excited unlike some of the efforts we have to put up with.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Correctimundo ……. just Googled it and it appears that during Franco’s reign, words were put to it. I assume that it’s an anti Franco protest. :dunno:

I thought you were at the wind up! 😀

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Germany going out before Japan yet again.

This deserves more appreciation than it's received so far! 👏

[hibsbollah]

Costa Rica 11% possession after 20 mins.

[Mon Dieu4]

Brilliant just brilliant

[HoboHarry]

Germany going out before Japan yet again.
Lol, outstanding....:top marks

[Mon Dieu4]

It must be horrible playing against Spain, 3 up already, can't touch the ball and when you do they win it back right away

[Donegal Hibby]

Costa Rica 11% possession after 20 mins.
Spain look very good .

[Aldo]

He is, it's like having a boy from the pub commentating for you, he gets genuinely excited unlike some of the efforts we have to put up with.

And says it exactly how it is.


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[hibsbollah]

Brilliant just brilliant

My productivity today is terrible. I should really sack myself. Or maybe I’ll just sack off work.

[Donegal Hibby]

If this was a boxing match it would be stopped 😁

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Cost Rica are stinking, still it's hard to look beyond a European nation winning the tournament on evidence provided so far.

[J-C]

Disappointed with Costa Rica but Spain are still top drawer though.

[J-C]

Is Souness wearing a Rangers tartan jacket, WTF

[HoboHarry]

My productivity today is terrible. I should really sack myself. Or maybe I’ll just sack off work.
Same here lol. Going to have to put some time in at the weekend at this rate to make up for my farting about today lol

[Aldo]

WTF were Navas and the defenders doing there. Amateur at best!


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[Jim44]

I don’t know how any national team could ever lose to a Costa Rica team ………. Oh, I’ll withdraw that statement. :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

I don’t know how any national team could ever lose to a Costa Rica team ………. Oh, I’ll withdraw that statement. :greengrin

Tbf, Costa Rica topped a group with Italy, England and Uruguay 8 years ago. One of the most amazing world cup performances ever.

This team looks absolutely *****, though. :greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

The Spanish anthem doesn't have wordsThey could have hummed 😀

[cabbageandribs1875]

5-0



i'm hoping this Costa Rica side are better than Iran

[Green Reaper]

A 12 year old scores to make it 5 😊

[MWHIBBIES]

That was a brilliant goal.

[Donegal Hibby]

​
They could have hummed 😀
Or whistled while they work 😗 .They are certainly working well today !

[Sir David Gray]

6-0

[cabbageandribs1875]

seis-cero



+8 mins added

[Sir David Gray]

7-0

[Green Reaper]

7 heaven

[cabbageandribs1875]

the magnificent 7-0

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Spain
France/England
Holland

We'll know a lot more after the 2nd round of games.

[Pretty Boy]

Belgium rocking the 'Burton summer collection 2006' look with those flames on the their sleeves.

[Pretty Boy]

Seems to be a huge Canadian contingent at the game. Huge excitement every time they get a foot on the ball.

[Mon Dieu4]

Seems to be a huge Canadian contingent at the game. Huge excitement every time they get a foot on the ball.

Started off like they are giving it a go as well

[cabbageandribs1875]

could play giant sized snooker on that pitch

or Bowls

or Pool

[plhibs]

I'm going Hertz-like today, scoring a goal or two will be a moral victory :greengrin:greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty Canada.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh oh VAR

could be penalty for canada


ooooh interesting, given


saved

[Aldo]

Definitely a penalty for me!


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[Mon Dieu4]

Penalty aye by the rules it is but bit harsh giving him a yellow for that

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty saved.

[Aldo]

Saved


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[cabbageandribs1875]

it was a pretty poor free shot likes



gotta take those chances

[MWHIBBIES]

Courtois looked confident there. Think he knew he had him.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Belgians are all over the place

[MWHIBBIES]

Should've been another penalty. Belgian guy passed it back to the Canadian, he can't be offside.

[Mon Dieu4]

Belgians are playing like Hibs do against a team that haven't won in 37 games

[SlickShoes]

Should've been another penalty. Belgian guy passed it back to the Canadian, he can't be offside.

Just came to say that, unbelievable decision

[Iain G]

Belgians are all over the place

Haven't been the same since Maloney left 😁

[MWHIBBIES]

Just came to say that, unbelievable decision

Madness. Big **** up by ref and lino there.

[Pretty Boy]

Liking the look of Canada. Think they fancy their chances here. Belgium have been poor but the Canadians are swarming all over them. Not giving them a second to play.

I was at the game at ER v Scotland 20 years ago and they were pretty rank that night. This team look light years away from that.

[Mcbizz1998]

My boss is Belgian. I was speaking to him earlier and he was very worried about this game, I presumed it was just usual pessimism that football fans have for their own team but he was bang on based on the first 20 mins here!

[Mon Dieu4]

See what happens when you don't pick Rocky for the squad

[Sir David Gray]

Liking the look of Canada. Think they fancy their chances here. Belgium have been poor but the Canadians are swarming all over them. Not giving them a second to play.

I was at the game at ER v Scotland 20 years ago and they were pretty rank that night. This team look light years away from that.

I was at that game too and they were awful.

They were ranked 70th in the world back then, now 41st.

[Iain G]

Canada are swarming! So much every and Belgium can't deal with it

[Sylar]

They've ditched a lot of the deadwood that weren't taking them forward (Arfield always springs to mind as one such player). But compared to the likes of Alphonso Davies, Buchanan and Jonathan Davies...this is a very decent looking side indeed.

[Hibbyradge]

See what happens when you don't pick Rocky for the squad

:greengrin 👍👍

[Sir David Gray]

Canada should be ahead.

[MWHIBBIES]

Canada are everything I wish Hibs were tbh. Fast, commited, fearless, entertaining.

[Sir David Gray]

That should be another penalty for Canada.

[Sir David Gray]

No penalty - can't understand that at all.

[BILLYHIBS]

Canada are everything I wish Hibs were tbh. Fast, commited, fearless, entertaining.
Cannae finish

[Trinity Hibee]

That’s 2 clear pens not given to Canada as well as one they did get. What is the point in having this if they cannot get quite clear decisions right. Unbelievable

[neil7908]

That should be another penalty for Canada.

Yup, I honestly have no idea what the rules are. Looked as clear a pen as you could get. He stood on the guys foot and brought him down.

[Mon Dieu4]

Davies is silly good, it's like he can play anywhere he wants

[Jim44]

Despite a shocking first half, I think Belgium at 6/5 are still a good bet.

[neil7908]

Canada are everything I wish Hibs were tbh. Fast, commited, fearless, entertaining.

I think it just goes to show how important pace, energy and dare I say youth are in football.

They won't get you everywhere but it's been amazing seeing some of these ageing European giants with the 'big name' players under the cosh against teams with legs and a spark.

[Pretty Boy]

Yup, I honestly have no idea what the rules are. Looked as clear a pen as you could get. He stood on the guys foot and brought him down.

I think the refereeing team have bottled it.

Given one penalty against the big team and don't fancy giving another.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Belgium

[Mon Dieu4]

Sucker punch

[cabbageandribs1875]

wan-nil Belqium

[The Modfather]

Belgium look abysmal. Like a team that has long since peaked but still playing the same players as the last number of tournaments. Even allowing for missing Lukaku.

Maybe they are missing Maloney!

Edit - in classic fashion Belgium score as I post this

[neil7908]

Despite a shocking first half, I think Belgium at 6/5 are still a good bet.

Can I have this week's lottery numbers please?

[Seekyit]

Sucker punch

Cruel. Time though.

[MWHIBBIES]

Batshuyi has been dreadful but he took that very well.

[Jim44]

Despite a shocking first half, I think Belgium at 6/5 are still a good bet.

:wink:

[HoboHarry]

Route one but good finish nonetheless.

[grunt]

I need Kevin to score, please.

[Pretty Boy]

I do wonder if some of these traditional bigger nations will get better as the tournament progresses.

They usually have 3-4 weeks and a friendly or 2 in the build up to a summer WC. This year they were playing league games a week or 10 days ago (I know the same is true of a lot of the 'smaller' teams but they don't have the same expectation). A wee bit lingering fatigue from a hectic schedule and rustiness from not having played together recently might be a factor. Some of the outsiders might have fancied the 1st round of games as being their best chance of getting something.

[Jim44]

Despite a shocking first half, I think Belgium at 6/5 are still a good bet.


Can I have this week's lottery numbers please?

Heart says Canada, but head and pocket say Belgium.

[LaMotta]

Alex Scott talking about transitions. Often hear women pundits talking about "transitions" during analysis but rarely hear it from male pundits.

Not a criticism, just an observation.:cb

[cabbageandribs1875]

Despite a shocking first half, I think Belgium at 6/5 are still a good bet.


i had to take them at 11/20 just before KO :(

[bigwheel]

Alex Scott talking about transitions. Often hear women pundits talking about "transitions" during analysis but rarely hear it from male pundits.

Not a criticism, just an observation.:cb

Think it’s becoming a more common topic for more modern pundits …but building on your point , perhaps they are trying to bring something different to the table ..more technical and detailed analysis ??

[Irish_Steve]

Alex Scott talking about transitions. Often hear women pundits talking about "transitions" during analysis but rarely hear it from male pundits.

Not a criticism, just an observation.:cb

It's bloody commentators who use the word "turnover" these days

It's a rugby term!

[Jim44]

It's bloody commentators who use the word "turnover" these days

It's a rugby term!

I don’t know, Paul Hollywood does a nice apple turnover, I hear.:greengrin

[J-C]

Apart from a well taken goal, Belgium have been rotten, Canada deserve something from this game.

[Jim44]

Heart says Canada, but head and pocket say Belgium.

Mmmmmm, maybe a safe cash out would be advisable. Canada still doing well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Japan fans cleaning their mess after the game :applause: BBC Sport on Twitter: "This is class from the Japan fans 🇯🇵👏 Cleaning up in the stadium after the Germany game. #BBCFootball #BBCWorldCup https://t.co/TavpGQSX4N" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1595468495524724736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1595468495524724736%7Ctwgr% 5E627a8028d0c1e48fd1fa3ae21f7755a68567a330%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffoot ball%2F63735823)

[HoboHarry]

That Onana chappie doesn't look like he's the sharpest tack on the board.

[SHODAN]

Japan fans cleaning their mess after the game :applause: BBC Sport on Twitter: "This is class from the Japan fans 🇯🇵👏 Cleaning up in the stadium after the Germany game. #BBCFootball #BBCWorldCup https://t.co/TavpGQSX4N" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1595468495524724736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1595468495524724736%7Ctwgr% 5E627a8028d0c1e48fd1fa3ae21f7755a68567a330%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffoot ball%2F63735823)

Yup, they do this after every game.

[Jones28]

Canada are so much more up for it than Belgium.

[Jim44]

One things for sure, Belgium probably won’t go far.

[Jones28]

Japan fans cleaning their mess after the game :applause: BBC Sport on Twitter: "This is class from the Japan fans 🇯🇵👏 Cleaning up in the stadium after the Germany game. #BBCFootball #BBCWorldCup https://t.co/TavpGQSX4N" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1595468495524724736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1595468495524724736%7Ctwgr% 5E627a8028d0c1e48fd1fa3ae21f7755a68567a330%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffoot ball%2F63735823)

Brilliant.

[Trinity Hibee]

That Onana chappie doesn't look like he's the sharpest tack on the board.

He’s having a shocker

[JeMeSouviens]

Belgium badly need a bit more pace at the back.

[Tambo]

He’s having a shocker

Seen him a few times for Everton and he looked miles out his league.

[hibee-boys]

Canada have been exceptional in the first 3/4 of the pitch, utter rank anywhere near the box.

[Trinity Hibee]

Seen him a few times for Everton and he looked miles out his league.

Didn’t realise he played in the PL. Hope for us all yet

[cameronw-hfc]

Its pretty comical how bad Belgium are, and have been under Martinez bar one or two spells of decent results. They've got a team that should be right up there competing, instead they'll probably get knocked out in the first knockout rounds and waste a golden generation.

The sooner football clubs and nations realise Martinez is a woeful manager/head coach the better.

[Jim44]

That Onana chappie doesn't look like he's the sharpest tack on the board.

Commentators bigging him up now, however.

[Squealing pig]

That Onana chappie doesn't look like he's the sharpest tack on the board.

What’s his name

[Haymaker]

Its pretty comical how bad Belgium are, and have been under Martinez bar one or two spells of decent results. They've got a team that should be right up there competing, instead they'll probably get knocked out in the first knockout rounds and waste a golden generation.

The sooner football clubs and nations realise Martinez is a woeful manager/head coach the better.

This :agree:

[Sir David Gray]

What’s his name

:tee hee: I came looking for this comment after I heard he had come on.

[Iain G]

Jermaine Jenas is just so nothing! It's all just noise, like the window blowing through something hollow...it's better when the commentator is talking to himself!

[The Spaceman]

Canada have been exceptional and are very unlucky to be losing this so far. Play some really nice football and brilliant athleticism.

[BILLYHIBS]

Belgium badly need a bit more pace at the back.

Rocky


I’ll get ma coat

[JimBHibees]

If De Bruyne was on his game Belguim would have scored a few more been so poor

[cabbageandribs1875]

i've decided to strike Belgium of my potential WC winners list



even though they weren't on my list to start with, i've decided not to make them a late inclusion

[Paulie Walnuts]

Its pretty comical how bad Belgium are, and have been under Martinez bar one or two spells of decent results. They've got a team that should be right up there competing, instead they'll probably get knocked out in the first knockout rounds and waste a golden generation.

The sooner football clubs and nations realise Martinez is a woeful manager/head coach the better.

Think that was fair comment 2/4 years ago but I’m not sure about now.

Looking through that starting line up it’s not all that. A back three consisting of a squad player at Villa, a 35 year old from Benfica and a 33 year old from Royal Antwerp. A right back from Leicester and a squad player at Atletico on the left. Hazard who’s hardly kicked a ball for years. A striker from Fenerbahce.

De Bruyne and Tielemans are undoubtedly quality but the rest are no more than pretty decent imo. Their golden generation was finished at least one tournament ago.

[hibee-boys]

Canada are playing how I imagined LJ was going to get us to play like following his pitch to supporters when he got the job…….I’m still waiting😏

[HoboHarry]

Canada are playing how I imagined LJ was going to get us to play like following his pitch to supporters when he got the job…….I’m still waiting😏
Aye, although it helps when you've been in the job close to 5 years and not 5 months.

[Hibees1973]

Rocky


I’ll get ma coat

And I'll phone for your taxi. :wink:

[StirlingHibee]

Brilliant display from Canada. As previous posts state just lack that cutting edge up front. Love the way they pressed. Why can't we play like that?

[bigwheel]

Brilliant display from Canada. As previous posts state just lack that cutting edge up front. Love the way they pressed. Why can't we play like that?

Actually think there were similarities in the tactics of Canada and how Hibs set up…they play a passing game with their wide men high…and most things go through them…much like us. the difference is the athleticism of their players…particularly in midfield…they were phenomenal, we’ve not got anywhere near that this season.


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[Donegal Hibby]

So far the best teams and possible potential winners we have seen would be France, Spain and maybe England (sorry)?. Most disappointing Germany and Argentina? Dark horses so far Japan , Saudi Arabia and Senegal?

[SteveHFC]

So far the best teams and possible potential winners we have seen would be France, Spain and maybe England (sorry)?. Most disappointing Germany and Argentina? Dark horses so far Japan , Saudi Arabia and Senegal?

France will be in the final against Brazil or Argentina.

[Mon Dieu4]

Hope Cameroon pump the Swiss today, for no reason whatsoever I have a real dislike of the Swiss National Team and I don't know why

[hibsbollah]

Hope Cameroon pump the Swiss today, for no reason whatsoever I have a real dislike of the Swiss National Team and I don't know why

cuckoo clocks, Nazi gold, toblerone and grindingly negative but efficient football. What’s not to like.

I will also be rooting for Cameroon.

[hibsbollah]

Five live have the worst commentator/best pundit double act on for the Swiss game, Vikki Sparks and Pat Nevin.

[Iain G]

Actually think there were similarities in the tactics of Canada and how Hibs set up…they play a passing game with their wide men high…and most things go through them…much like us. the difference is the athleticism of their players…particularly in midfield…they were phenomenal, we’ve not got anywhere near that this season.


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A fit Magennis would add that dynamic to our midfield.

They way Canada closed them down, high up the pitch, with the midfield and defenders moving up to support them was impressive, as was the way they fluidly shape as the game changed. If only they had a forward who could take chances.

We can see a start of this at Hibs but we don't have the personnel to fully implement it, needs time! :greengrin

[Sylar]

I keep having the same overriding thought with a lot of games in the World Cup so far. JUST ****ING HIT IT!

[easty]

cuckoo clocks, Nazi gold, toblerone and grindingly negative but efficient football. What’s not to like.

I will also be rooting for Cameroon.

What’s wrong with toblerone?

Cameroon been the better side so far, I expected a little more from the Swiss.

[Sylar]

This is up there with one of the worst games of the tournament so far. Two very average sides.