The world cup thread

[Donegal Hibby]

This is a great game, wide open. Croatias passing and energy is very impressive now.
It's good stuff, one of the best games so far.

[hibsbollah]

It's good stuff, one of the best games so far.

Alphonso Davies is almost unplayable at times.

[JohnM1875]

Alphonso Davies is almost unplayable at times.

Who do you think is faster, Davies or Mbappe? Both absolutely rapid and a joy to watch.

[hibsbollah]

Who do you think is faster, Davies or Mbappe? Both absolutely rapid and a joy to watch.

:agree: they both have the Speed of Sproule, Skill of Latapy and first touch of Murphy :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

3-1 game over.

[hibsbollah]

3-1, again, harsh on Canada for their attacking play but just wide open in defence.

[Seekyit]

Tough on Canada that, they’ve looked not bad in the two games.

[Scorrie]

Modric is some footballer. His fitness levels at his age are fantastic

[Donegal Hibby]

Alphonso Davies is almost unplayable at times.
Only 22 as well , cracking player , 3 - 1 Croatia .

[Sir David Gray]

Tough on Canada that, they’ve looked not bad in the two games.

I'd say Canada will probably be one of the best sides to be eliminated in the group stage.

[Hibbyradge]

Early Canadian goal provides a good opportunity to back Croatia in play. Then again, we could have yet another shock.

I'm putting a score on Croatia.

I followed your suggestion and took Croatia at 15/4 👍

[Bridge hibs]

Aw **** off Croatia, could you not just have left it at 2-1, you can stick your Pag cheese up yer erse 🤬

[hibsbollah]

I'd say Canada will probably be one of the best sides to be eliminated in the group stage.

Agree, and Australia who haven’t impressed at all could be going to the R16. It is indeed a funny old game.

[Sir David Gray]

4-1

[Donegal Hibby]

Think the scoreline is very harsh on Canada btw

[Callum_62]

Think the scoreline is very harsh on Canada btwExcellent

Looks like one of them Did indeed get f'd

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[Donegal Hibby]

Read this a wee while ago .talk about not taking a beaten well ,crazy stuff
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9833567/riot-brussels-belgium-morocco/

[cabbageandribs1875]

Read this a wee while ago .talk about not taking a beaten well ,crazy stuff
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9833567/riot-brussels-belgium-morocco/


you like yer links to that rag


what does it say

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Read this a wee while ago .talk about not taking a beaten well ,crazy stuff
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9833567/riot-brussels-belgium-morocco/

There's quite a big Moroccan population in Belgium. I remember that from the trip to play Anderlecht in 1992.

[Donegal Hibby]

you like yer links to that rag


what does it say
Big riot in Brussels .

[cabbageandribs1875]

Big riot in Brussels .


ah ok, as said above the moroccon's were crazy ****s and liked a bit of bother when we were in Brussels in the 90's

[Donegal Hibby]

ah ok, as said above the moroccon's were crazy ****s and liked a bit of bother when we were in Brussels in the 90's
Next game on paper is a cracker . Think Spain wil be to good for Germany tipping " Dani Olmo for first goal .

[Callum_62]

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z4qgsn/front_page_of_a_croatian_newspaper_shows_naked/

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[Scorrie]

Spain playing a 20 and 18 year old in midfield. I know these 2 are exceptional players but we really don’t often give youth a chance sometimes.

[Lago]

3-1, again, harsh on Canada for their attacking play but just wide open in defence.
Nieve defending

[Up-the-slope]

Spain well on top first 15 but Germans getting back into it...

[Up-the-slope]

Spanish falling over a tad easy

[Hibbyradge]

Nieve defending

That's the Attraction.

Or is he an Imposter?

[Hibbyradge]

Spain taking too long when they get a chance.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Germany

[Sir David Gray]

Offside no goal.

[Jones28]

VAR working well for offsides. Instant decisions.

[Donegal Hibby]

Game could do with a goal

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Spain

[J-C]

Crossing in this game has been chronic.

1-0 Spain

[marinello59]

Game could do with a goal

And there it is. :greengrin

[Callum_62]

1-0 Morata

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[HH81]

Boo.

[Irish_Steve]

Excellent

[Scorrie]

Germany in bother now

[Donegal Hibby]

And there it is. :greengrin
Didn't actually expect it to happen that quickly 😆

[JoeT]

Off the Germans

[SteveHFC]

Germany on the brink of going out again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Germany on the brink of going out again.

Lovely :agree:

Spain look like the team to beat so far imo.

[JohnM1875]

Lovely :agree:

Spain look like the team to beat so far imo.

Think France and Brazil are up there as well. But Spain are the only team so far to face a proper challenge and this has been a breeze so far, you could be right.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Think France and Brazil are up there as well. But Spain are the only team so far to face a proper challenge and this has been a breeze so far, you could be right.

Yeah, between the 3 of them from what we’ve seen so far.

[SteveHFC]

Think France and Brazil are up there as well. But Spain are the only team so far to face a proper challenge and this has been a breeze so far, you could be right.

Spain v Brazil looking more likely in the QF. 👀

[JohnM1875]

Spain v Brazil looking more likely in the QF. 👀

Oft! That will be some game! Been really impressed by Spain. Didn't think much of them before the tournament but they've been fantastic.

[Sir David Gray]

1-1

[J-C]

Didn't see that coming

[JoeT]

Off the Germans

Shouldn't have written them off😂

[Irish_Steve]

Didn't see that coming

Neither did the Spanish keeper lol

[cabbageandribs1875]

that should get the Germans that all important point i think they needed

[Stairway 2 7]

Moroccans stills rioting in Brussels, hate to see them if they got beat 😆

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1596944387279572993

[ekhibee]

If tonight's game was anything to go by I don't fancy either of them to win it. Spain are nowhere near the ability of previous Spanish teams, for me a few of their players are totally overrated. Morata can finish well enough though.

[The Wireless]

If tonight's game was anything to go by I don't fancy either of them to win it. Spain are nowhere near the ability of previous Spanish teams, for me a few of their players are totally overrated. Morata can finish well enough though.

As a matter of interest, which of their players do you think are overrated ?

[LewysGot2]

Reports of rioting in Belgium 🇧🇪 :confused:

Seems that Moroccan nationals took to the streets in Brussels after the game to celebrate but it’s all gone Pete Tong…

[supermcginn]

If tonight's game was anything to go by I don't fancy either of them to win it. Spain are nowhere near the ability of previous Spanish teams, for me a few of their players are totally overrated. Morata can finish well enough though.

This Spain team is streets ahead of the one that lost to a rotten Russia team in the last world cup. They have some of the best young players in the world, the best manager and plenty of experience. They'll go very close.

[Donegal Hibby]

If tonight's game was anything to go by I don't fancy either of them to win it. Spain are nowhere near the ability of previous Spanish teams, for me a few of their players are totally overrated. Morata can finish well enough though.
I would agree with you that there have been better Spanish teams in the past but this could be said of Argentina, Germany , Holland , Brazil and the rest too. I think Spain done enough tonight and will top the group . Spain, Brazil and France are the 3 best teams I've seen in it . I think they have some fantastic players and a really strong squad , Barcelona, man city ,PSG , real Madrid, Athletico Madrid players all in this Spanish squad. Id probably put Brazil and France as favourites but I think they are to good to rule out either though

[ekhibee]

This Spain team is streets ahead of the one that lost to a rotten Russia team in the last world cup. They have some of the best young players in the world, the best manager and plenty of experience. They'll go very close.

Well I hope your last sentence is true, I've always enjoyed watching Spain the past and I'm more than happy to be proved wrong. But tonight was a big test for them and imo there wasn't nearly as much skill on show as you seemed to imply. That's just my opinion though.

[Gatecrasher]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

[marinello59]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

We just haven’t had the surprise package in this one , the teams that unexpectedly make a big splash in the group stages. Neither Japan nor Saudi could follow up on their shock opening results. With none of the top contenders really firing on all cylinders yet it’s not been a very inspiring tournament so far.

[MWHIBBIES]

Brilliant game this.

[Mon Dieu4]

Brilliant game this.

Sods law, back at work today and missing a belter of a game

[MWHIBBIES]

Absolutely exceptional team goal from Serbia.

[Johnny_Leith]

Fantastic goal from Serbia.

[Jim44]

I’m being a bit of a nippy sweetie here but the over-celebration of a goal with the whole squad of subs running all over the pitch is a bit much. It should be nipped in the bud ‘cos it will only escalate into a farce every time a team scores.

[MWHIBBIES]

Another fantastic goal.

[SteveHFC]

What a game this is.

[Johnny_Leith]

Wow, game of the tournament so far.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It's a funny old game! 😀

[Irish_Steve]

Excellent stuff!

[flash]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

That would be a massive naw.

[MWHIBBIES]

World cup classic

[Lago]

I’m being a bit of a nippy sweetie here but the over-celebration of a goal with the whole squad of subs running all over the pitch is a bit much. It should be nipped in the bud ‘cos it will only escalate into a farce every time a team scores.
I agree

[hibsbollah]

Sods law, back at work today and missing a belter of a game

Same here, brutal developments.
Come on the Koreans

[J-C]

Grandparent duty today, watched the Grinch instead with my granddaughter.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Ghana

[Jim44]

“The Korean defence was ‘discombobulated’ there.” ….. the BBC commentator at Ghana’s goal. Best use of vocabulary yet.:greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

2-0 Ghana

[SteveHFC]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

Going good so far.

[hibsbollah]

“The Korean defence was ‘discombobulated’ there.” ….. the BBC commentator at Ghana’s goal. Best use of vocabulary yet.:greengrin

It’s a massively overused word in American sport and is clearly making its way over here now.

[Callum_62]

What's day for comebacks!

2-2 Ghana vs Korea

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[MWHIBBIES]

Another absolutely brilliant game. Scenes in the Korean end.

[SteveHFC]

Scenes

[Irish_Steve]

10 goals so far today, let's hope for 10 more lol

[Sheffhibee]

2-3 Ghana, terrific match

[Irish_Steve]

Gonna get four 3 - 3's today lol

[MWHIBBIES]

This was a decent game 16 years ago at Easter road. Today it's been exceptional. Ghana back Infront.

[Broken Gnome]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

That's outstanding work. Owe it all to you.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

This was a decent game 16 years ago at Easter road. Today it's been exceptional. Ghana back Infront.

16 years ago? Mental! 😲

[Stairway 2 7]

Unbelievable two games today 👏

[SHODAN]

Is today potentially the worst set of fixtures yet? I have only missed a few games but this world Cup has been a bit boring. I remember the one in Brazil in particular was a good one.

Thank you.

[Donegal Hibby]

This is my first game today so I will probably jinx it and it will be rubbish :greengrin

[Up-the-slope]

This is my first game today so I will probably jinx it and it will be rubbish :greengrin


likewise - only a wee bit of radio while driving... hope this is decent though

[Up-the-slope]

so far like couple of boxer sizing each other up but not wanting to risk going for the haymaker

[Donegal Hibby]

so far like couple of boxer sizing each other up but not wanting to risk going for the haymaker
After two cracking games , we come on and it's not great , think we are going to get barred 😂

[Aldo]

Quite a few naughty wee challenges by the Swiss. Slow mo there of a defender running his studs down Richarlisons ankle


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[Up-the-slope]

After two cracking games , we come on and it's not great , think we are going to get barred 😂

:rolleyes:


Ronaldo looks like he had dined at McDonalds for 10 years straight... humungous

[Donegal Hibby]

:rolleyes:


Ronaldo looks like he had dined at McDonalds for 10 years straight... humungous
Big lad now alright , probably ate all the pies too

[Tambo]

The Swiss have done well so far and will be up to Brazil to step it up second half.

[Aldo]

:rolleyes:


Ronaldo looks like he had dined at McDonalds for 10 years straight... humungous

Could still do a job for us! [emoji41]


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[Up-the-slope]

Samba Football not on the menu first half - hopefully like so many games where first half has been keek it improves. Credit Swiss though as they have rarely looked troubled and kept their shape well -might have crossed earlier / at all a few times and tested CH's

[Up-the-slope]

Could still do a job for us! [emoji41]


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:confused: testing the new catering outlet offerings

[CropleyWasGod]

Samba Football not on the menu first half - hopefully like so many games where first half has been keek it improves. Credit Swiss though as they have rarely looked troubled and kept their shape well -might have crossed earlier / at all a few times and tested CH's

Credit Suisse, shirley?

Not banking on a reply......

[Gatecrasher]

Thank you.

Just doing my bit :greengrin

Brazil is a let down though, where's the south american flare? They have a european style of football about them.

[Mon Dieu4]

Looks like I'm the jinx, missed 11 goals while working today and now we have a glorious 0-0 now I'm able to watch again

[Up-the-slope]

Credit Suisse, shirley?

Not banking on a reply......

:top marks.... more entertaining than entire first half

[Up-the-slope]

Looks like I'm the jinx, missed 11 goals while working today and now we have a glorious 0-0 now I'm able to watch again

Back to work :rules:

[hibsbollah]

Ive just caught the highlights, I actually can’t believe the scenes I’ve missed today :faf:

[Irish_Steve]

How do they make it look so effing easy!

[Up-the-slope]

funny i saw that offside straight away.... i wish lines persons would be allowed to get back to sticking flag up

[green day]

What a great goal VAR just ruled out.

[Irish_Steve]

VAR check on my comment

Incorrect posting lol

[Up-the-slope]

but yet again no replays showing us the supporter why... let alone in ground for those who have paid 000's


edit... and when it does comes its the most pap set of replays

[Donegal Hibby]

Looks like I'm the jinx, missed 11 goals while working today and now we have a glorious 0-0 now I'm able to watch again
You are off the hook now👍

[Johnny_Leith]

Richarlisons a mile offside, was obvious in the build up, not sure where the commentary team are getting so confused. Ball watching most likely.

[green day]

VAR can get in the bin, especially if we end up with these 55 minute halves the WC is throwing up .

[Up-the-slope]

Ive just caught the highlights, I actually can’t believe the scenes I’ve missed today :faf:

and you
Back to work :rules:

[Up-the-slope]

on comes the Saviour

[Mon Dieu4]

Yaaaas **** the Swiss

[Bridge hibs]

Boooooommmmm !!

[Irish_Steve]

As I says in the Plusnet advert, that will do!

[Green Reaper]

Cracking finish

[green day]

No bad strike from a DM

[Donegal Hibby]

Great strike

[Up-the-slope]

No bad strike from a DM

he was their best player even before that

[Johnny_Leith]

That was a blatant back pass, WTF?

[pollution]

Itv screen freeze

[Bobby's Cinema]

Cracking goal. Brazil at the end looked like they may have a lot more in the tank when they are free'd up to go and attack.

[Donegal Hibby]

:rolleyes:


Ronaldo looks like he had dined at McDonalds for 10 years straight... humungous
Was checking up on Ronaldo club appearance's 384 , 280 goals . Brazil appearance's 98 , 62 goals No wonder he's big now ,seems he ate defence's for breakfast one time.

[Jim44]

I had a strange dream last night ……. Uruguay won 3-2 and Renaldo was sent off. I don’t even understand why I was dreaming about football and that game in particular.

[Billy Whizz]

Portugal and Uruguay for the size of their populations, produce so many world class players
You wonder how they do it

[green day]

Portugal and Uruguay for the size of their populations, produce so many world class players
You wonder how they do it

Better weather

[Billy Whizz]

Better weather

Will be part of it, but got to be much more than that
Some hot Countries like Mexico (130m) and Turkey (85m) have massive populations, but do next to do nothing
I’m sure someone somewhere has written a paper on this

[green day]

Will be part of it, but got to be much more than that
Some hot Countries like Mexico (130m) and Turkey (85m) have populations, but do next to do nothing
I’m sure someone somewhere has written a paper on this

Maybe they don't have parents looking to batter other parents because their wee boys team got beat in some crappy cup tourney at peffermill on a Saturday morning?

[hibsbollah]

Maybe they don't have parents looking to batter other parents because their wee boys team got beat in some crappy cup tourney at peffermill on a Saturday morning?

I think you’re closer with this. Our football culture especially on how it impacts on youngsters is about fifty years out of date. I am going to annoy people here but I’d say 75% of the people I’ve had to deal with in relation to boys football in Edinburgh have been absolute dicks and should be nowhere near either sporting development, tactics or child welfare.

[The Pointer]

Laughing at the commentator pronouncing Sebastian Coates of Uruguay as 'Coh-ah-tez' in the modern, prescribed manner.

Until you read on Wiki, "On his paternal side, he is of Scottish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people) ancestry," in which case I'll stick with the Paisley pronunciation.

[The Pointer]

:rolleyes:


Ronaldo looks like he had dined at McDonalds for 10 years straight... humungous

He's on the Maradona diet.

[blackpoolhibs]

If ever the phrase his legs have gone is used this world cup, it should be when mentioning Ronaldo.

He's brought walking football to the worlds stage. :timebomb:

[green day]

I think you’re closer with this. Our football culture especially on how it impacts on youngsters is about fifty years out of date.

I was being flippant - a bit - but it's a bit crap that we have had people talking about revamping football from grassroots up for decades now.......but as soon as some da gets a sniff of a plastic trophy for his boys mantle piece all bets are off.


ETA, just saw the rest of your post, made me laugh / cry😂

[hibsbollah]

I was being flippant - a bit - but it's a bit crap that we have had people talking about revamping football from grassroots up for decades now.......but as soon as some da gets a sniff of a plastic trophy for his boys mantle piece all bets are off.


ETA, just saw the rest of your post, made me laugh / cry😂

It’s honestly the way I feel, I genuinely get a pleasant surprise when I meet someone who seems to be involved for the right reasons.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm normally quite critical of Referee's but think they have been pretty good so far , what has surprised me is between last game and this one theres been quite a few cynical fouls but the Ref's have genuinely kept there cards in there pockets ( apart from the early booking of course :greengrin )

[SHODAN]

Portugal and Uruguay for the size of their populations, produce so many world class players
You wonder how they do it

They have a national directive banning the Xboxes and the Playstations.

[Since452]

Take it McCoist doesn't know Johan Cruyff is deed?

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Portugal Ronaldo

[blackpoolhibs]

:faf: 1-0 The walking footballer.

[Since452]

Goat

[green day]

Did he actually get a touch?

[MWHIBBIES]

Great goal by Bruno Fernandes there. Genius dummy by Ronaldo.

[Aldo]

Ronaldo does himself an injury kicking the guys foot


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[Aldo]

Did he actually get a touch?

I don’t think he did


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[HibbyAndy]

Ronaldo doesn't touch that ball

[McSwanky]

Pretty sure he didn't touch that.

[Aldo]

FIFA disagrees and have said he got a touch!


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[JimBHibees]

Ronaldo doesn't touch that ball

Yep looked like no contact at all. I am sure he will admit that after the game :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

According to Ally Fernandez has been given the goal.

[Since452]

FIFA disagrees and have said he got a touch!


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So does William Hill 😉

[HibbyAndy]

Yep looked like no contact at all. I am sure he will admit that after the game :greengrin

It wasn't even a close call , He's nowhere near it

[Aldo]

So does William Hill [emoji6]

Skybet have given goal to Bruno


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[Jim44]

Fantastic turn of speed from Ronaldo, there.

[Up-the-slope]

maybe some of his hair oil dripped on ball as it flew past :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Wonder if he'll do a Harry Kane when he claimed that goal that was also nowhere near him.

[Garymcl]

Make no mistake he’ll claim it might be a great player but trust me if that was Messi in the same situation a bit different never a team player no matter how good he is

[Joe6-2]

Ronaldo should have been booked for that dive

[Donegal Hibby]

Ronaldo should have been booked for that dive
That's what happens when you have played for Man u , you pick up those sort of bad habits 😉

[Jim44]

Fantastic turn of speed from Renaldo, there.

[Irish_Steve]

Wonder if he'll do a Harry Kane when he claimed that goal that was also nowhere near him.

Harry Kane is claiming that goal

[cameronw-hfc]

Doesn't touch it, of course he claims it. Egotistical maniac.

[The Modfather]

The Uruguay manager should be taken round the back and shot. A nice dark blue suit ruined by dazzling white trainers and also what looked like no socks.

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty Portugal I think.

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty Portugal I think.

Yep.

[Mon Dieu4]

**** off, how's he meant to avoid that

[Irish_Steve]

That’s never a penalty

[Since452]

VAR is horrible

[MWHIBBIES]

Harsh as ****, but intent has never mattered. He got skinned and his hand stopped it.

[J-C]

Games ****ed with VAR and these daft rules, he's putting his arm down for balance as he's sliding in, he has no idea where that ball is going.

[Sir David Gray]

2-0 Portugal, that's them through to the last 16.

[cabbageandribs1875]

dreadful decision

[Aldo]

Harsh as ****, but intent has never mattered. He got skinned and his hand stopped it.

Yip but as you’ve mentioned he stops the progress of the ball


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[Mon Dieu4]

Harsh as ****, but intent has never mattered. He got skinned and his hand stopped it.

His hand was hardly in an unnatural position when he's falling backwards though

[Donegal Hibby]

Never a penalty, terrible decision.

[Aldo]

dreadful decision

We’d be screaming for a penalty if that was for us.


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[HoboHarry]

VAR is horrible
I don't like VAR either but the rules on handball are a dumpster fire and I genuinely think that the referees don't know what they are. High time it went back to intentional or not - that's all that's ever mattered IMHO.

[green day]

I suppose playing devils advocate, Fernandez would have got on the nutmeg if the handball hadn't deflected the ball away......

[Irish_Steve]

I mind Ulrik Laursen coincided a penalty like that too. Mind you, it was against the Huns and no referee needed VAR to give it

[Mon Dieu4]

We’d be screaming for a penalty if that was for us.


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Fans want penalty for their team even if it isn't shock horror

[Green Reaper]

His hand was hardly in an unnatural position when he's falling backwards though

Agree but unfortunately the handball rules now are too black and white

[HoboHarry]

His hand was hardly in an unnatural position when he's falling backwards though
The "unnatural" term is about the stupidest I've ever seen introduced into football. Defenders being forced to run with their hands behind their backs is the poster child for unnatural.

[eastterrace]

VAR is destroying the beautiful game that I was brought up on it’s just a show now. Don’t know if I will go back if this is what going to happen , the baws burst.

[Joe6-2]

His hand was hardly in an unnatural position when he's falling backwards though

Absolute joke, what are you meant to do, land on your head?!!

[Aldo]

Fans want penalty for their team even if it isn't shock horror

[emoji41][emoji2957]

Still a penalty for me given he’s stopped the progress of the ball.

However I can see why folk would be peed off that it was given


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[JimBHibees]

I mind Ulrik Laursen coincided a penalty like that too. Mind you, it was against the Huns and no referee needed VAR to give it

And send him off :greengrin

[LaMotta]

I don't like VAR either but the rules on handball are a dumpster fire and I genuinely think that the referees don't know what they are. High time it went back to intentional or not - that's all that's ever mattered IMHO.

But how many people ever intentionally handled the ball? Apart from extremely rare Suarez in 2010 incidents when players try to save a goal, no one ever intentionally handles the ball. Sometimes players handle it ( unintentionally) and its a foul though surely?

[Joe6-2]

VAR is destroying the beautiful game that I was brought up on it’s just a show now. Don’t know if I will go back if this is what going to happen , the baws burst.

Totally agree, what should have improved the game is destroying it

[danhibees1875]

I suppose playing devils advocate, Fernandez would have got on the nutmeg if the handball hadn't deflected the ball away......

:agree:

From an attacking point of view, the guys hand has stopped him getting through for a one on one. Seems unfair to not then give the penalty.

From a defensive point of view, he's not able to put his hand anywhere else, it's not deliberate (if that's still part of the rule) or in an unnatural position (if that's still part of the rule) although it does increase the area of his body (if that's still part of the rule). Seems unfair to have given the penalty.

[CmoantheHibs]

Games ****ed with VAR and these daft rules, he's putting his arm down for balance as he's sliding in, he has no idea where that ball is going.

That's where I'm at. It's making me question whether it's worth watching football anymore. Games are being ruined by ridiculous decisions and over analyzing of incidents.

[Irish_Steve]

But how many people ever intentionally handled the ball? Apart from extremely rare Suarez in 2010 incidents when players try to save a goal, no one ever intentionally handles the ball. Sometimes players handle it ( unintentionally) and its a foul though surely?

Diego :)

[JimBHibees]

Fernandez is an excellent player but also a complete kok

[LaMotta]

VAR is destroying the beautiful game that I was brought up on it’s just a show now. Don’t know if I will go back if this is what going to happen , the baws burst.


Totally agree, what should have improved the game is destroying it

Bit extreme!

[Mon Dieu4]

[emoji41][emoji2957]

Still a penalty for me given he’s stopped the progress of the ball.

However I can see why folk would be peed off that it was given


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If I was a striker in the box with nothing much on then I'd be pinging shots galore off defenders hands and arms these days, they have technology that if they had kept the old rules still in action might actually work but they've somehow made it worse

[cabbageandribs1875]

Diego :)


accidental

[LaMotta]

Diego :)

Yes exactly - happened once in the history of the world cup! :greengrin

[HH81]

Refs are just bottlers and go with what VAR says to not show up their mate.

Happened in championship final at Wembley last season but other way round. VAR wouldn't give Huddersfield a pen as their future boss was the ref. Confirmed to me by someone working with VAR.

VAR is a joke and surprised Scottish football went with it.

[flash]

Portugal are a bigger price than Germany to win the tournament which to me is utterly ridiculous.
I think they could beat anybody in a one off match with that midfield.

[Donegal Hibby]

If I was a striker in the box with nothing much on then I'd be pinging shots galore off defenders hands and arms these days, they have technology that if they had kept the old rules still in action might actually work but they've somehow made it worse
Agree with this:agree:

[Aldo]

If I was a striker in the box with nothing much on then I'd be pinging shots galore off defenders hands and arms these days, they have technology that if they had kept the old rules still in action might actually work but they've somehow made it worse

VAR is brutal and there is little or no consistency (and never will have any either) all about the interpretation by the officials.

You can think of a few during a few games before the break at Tiny where they were award penalties using VAR however the most blatant one was Smiths handball with his arm well away from his body(you could see that without VAR) wasn’t given!


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[CapitalGreen]

Not a penalty as per IFAB’s own guidelines.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FirdG2gUcAEh0gs.jpg

https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1597332269709918208?s=46&t=jL14om69MbSOnzj0YLnVdA

[Hibbyradge]

VAR is horrible

The referee makes the decision, not VAR.

[Broken Gnome]

Not a penalty as per IFAB’s own guidelines.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FirdG2gUcAEh0gs.jpg

https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1597332269709918208?s=46&t=jL14om69MbSOnzj0YLnVdA

The loophole there is that his arm comes down on to the ball. It's not a supporting arm on contact with the ground, more a following arm that connects with the ball.

[CapitalGreen]

Harsh as ****, but intent has never mattered. He got skinned and his hand stopped it.

This is wrong, intent does matter. The intent of his arm being in an unnatural position was to support his body not to make his body bigger so it shouldn’t be a penalty.

“An attacker (Team A) attempts to pass the ball. A defender (Team B) makes a slide tackle to block the pass. The ball touches the right arm which is clearly extended away from the body and is not supporting the body. What is the correct decision?
It is a handball offence. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. The referee will award a direct free kick (or penalty kick) to Team A.”

https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#indirect-free-kick

[hibsbollah]

The referee makes the decision, not VAR.

It’s the double whammy of the delay which spoils the event as a spectator and then the mistakes are happening regardless. VAR rules are a disaster for a sport which just has to accept that refs will sometimes make mistakes and put this Ill fated system in the bin where it belongs.

[Donegal Hibby]

Thought the handball was never a penalty , his hands behind him being used to break his fall and it does touch his hand but is unintentional imo

[CapitalGreen]

The loophole there is that his arm comes down on to the ball. It's not a supporting arm on contact with the ground, more a following arm that connects with the ball.

That’s not a loophole, look at the image, the defenders hand isn’t touching the ground. That image was provided by IFAB, the people who literally wrote the rule.

[CapitalGreen]

The referee makes the decision, not VAR.

The VAR recommended the referee take another look on the screen. A competent VAR would have confirmed that the referees initial on pitch decision was correct.

[Broken Gnome]

That’s not a loophole, look at the image, the defenders hand isn’t touching the ground. That image was provided by IFAB, the people who literally wrote the rule.

Was assuming that was the journalist's image

In that case, they're just tying themselves in knots.

[CapitalGreen]

Was assuming that was the journalist's image

In that case, they're just tying themselves in knots.

See point 4

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[BILLYHIBS]

Paddy Power paying out on all CR7 first goal scorer and shot on target bets

The good guys

[angus hibby]

VAR picks up on the handball, but ignores the two Portuguese players who have run through the D and are in the box when pen taken. They’re only about 5 yards further than what they should be 🙄

[Hibbyradge]

The VAR recommended the referee take another look on the screen. A competent VAR would have confirmed that the referees initial on pitch decision was correct.

Fair point.

[Donegal Hibby]

First Ghana goal today , think the ball hit Ghana player on the hand and goal stood , could be said that Ghana and Uruguay handball's were similar.Mike Dean ex referee says it was never a penalty against Uruguay and referee was still deciding on it as he walked onto pitch

[Hibbyradge]

Paddy Power paying out on all CR7 first goal scorer and shot on target bets

The good guys

Are they also paying out on Fernandez who scored it?

[BILLYHIBS]

Are they also paying out on Fernandez who scored it?

Who cares ?

I had Ronaldo shot on target and they paid oot 🤑

[BILLYHIBS]

Today is the last day of the 10 am and 1 pm kick offs

All 4 pm and 7 pm from here on in

[hibee_girl]

Today is the last day of the 10 am and 1 pm kick offs

All 4 pm and 7 pm from here on in

3pm and 7pm

[BILLYHIBS]

3pm and 7pm

👍

Thought I better double check that before posting 😀

[blackpoolhibs]

The referee makes the decision, not VAR.

I think the ref was struggling to give that penalty last night, in fact if you watch it again i dont think he wanted to give it at all?

I'm wondering if he's been directed to give it from above, or pressurised to?

[Gatecrasher]

I think the ref was struggling to give that penalty last night, in fact if you watch it again i dont think he wanted to give it at all?

I'm wondering if he's been directed to give it from above, or pressurised to?

I have no evidence for this what so ever, but I feel like who ever is in charge of the world cup want the stars of the show to have the headlines, so the end up getting decisions like that. Ronaldo, Messi and the likes get favoured IMO.

[hibsbollah]

I have no evidence for this what so ever, but I feel like who ever is in charge of the world cup want the stars of the show to have the headlines, so the end up getting decisions like that. Ronaldo, Messi and the likes get favoured IMO.

I completely agree with you. There’s only one World Cup where the people implicated have admitted corrupt practices (the first one I watched, Argentina 78-this regime was arguably much more brutal and murderous than any World Cup host state ever), but there is no doubt in my mind that this is a showcase for the teams and players that make the most money for the organisers. I still love it and it’s the pinnacle of the sport in my eyes, but we can’t ignore the likelihood that it’s fairly widespread. Korea 2002 also had some very suspicious outcomes.

[Mon Dieu4]

I completely agree with you. There’s only one World Cup where the people implicated have admitted corrupt practices (the first one I watched, Argentina 78-this regime was arguably much more brutal and murderous than any World Cup host state ever), but there is no doubt in my mind that this is a showcase for the teams and players that make the most money for the organisers. I still love it and it’s the pinnacle of the sport in my eyes, but we can’t ignore the likelihood that it’s fairly widespread. Korea 2002 also had some very suspicious outcomes.

South Korea got a some really dodgy decisions against Spain and Italy if I remember correctly

[Trinity Hibee]

Not a fan of VAR at all but I thought that Portugal penalty last night should have been one. He’s been nutmegged with the attacker going to get the ball and have an attempt on goal. The hand redirected the ball and stopped that from happening. Felt it was one of the easier calls tbh.

The Ronaldo one earlier in the tournament now that should never have been a pen and can’t believe VAR never overturned it.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not a fan of VAR at all but I thought that Portugal penalty last night should have been one. He’s been nutmegged with the attacker going to get the ball and have an attempt on goal. The hand redirected the ball and stopped that from happening. Felt it was one of the easier calls tbh.

The Ronaldo one earlier in the tournament now that should never have been a pen and can’t believe VAR never overturned it.
The hand did redirect the ball but he had his hand behind him and was using it to break his fall , totally unintentional hand ball and should never had been a penalty . Mike Dean ex referee said the same , also said when referee was walking on to the field you could see he hadn't decided but looked like he didn't want to go against the decision to gave it.

[Trinity Hibee]

The hand did redirect the ball but he had his hand behind him and was using it to break his fall , totally unintentional hand ball and should never had been a penalty . Mike Dean ex referee said the same , also said when referee was walking on to the field you could see he hadn't decided but looked like he didn't want to go against the decision to gave it.

Yeah fair enough. Can’t say I know the details of the rules nowadays but refs just seem confused generally. I can see the unintentional part but for me it still impacted the direction of the ball and prevented a clear effort in goal. I’m sure we’ll see plenty more dubious decisions throughout the tournament.

[Dmas]

3pm and 7pm

Taken by surprise by this this morning, soured my cup of tea at 9:50 when I was flicking to find what station the game was on, actually had to give work full focus!

[Alfred E Newman]

Yeah fair enough. Can’t say I know the details of the rules nowadays but refs just seem confused generally. I can see the unintentional part but for me it still impacted the direction of the ball and prevented a clear effort in goal. I’m sure we’ll see plenty more dubious decisions throughout the tournament.
Just wait till penalties are being awarded for unintentionally heading the ball.

[Lago]

Taken by surprise by this this morning, soured my cup of tea at 9:50 when I was flicking to find what station the game was on, actually had to give work full focus!
You and quite a few others, whereas us retirees don't have that problem 😊

[Donegal Hibby]

Yeah fair enough. Can’t say I know the details of the rules nowadays but refs just seem confused generally. I can see the unintentional part but for me it still impacted the direction of the ball and prevented a clear effort in goal. I’m sure we’ll see plenty more dubious decisions throughout the tournament.
Can't say I know the details of the rules nowadays either . I can see why the refs are confused by it , really is becoming a problem , getting to the stage were you are in with a good shout of a penalty by firing the ball at the opponent. I can see why you thought it was a penalty with the direction change of the ball but to me he didn't know anything about it and was unintentional and a very harsh penalty decision. Actually thought Ghana's first goal yesterday was another dubious decision and your right it won't be the last dubious decision either . It's a funny old game 😂

[basehibby]

I'm normally quite critical of Referee's but think they have been pretty good so far , what has surprised me is between last game and this one theres been quite a few cynical fouls but the Ref's have genuinely kept there cards in there pockets ( apart from the early booking of course :greengrin )
Is it not the cynical fouls refs SHOULD be getting their cards out for though?!?

[BILLYHIBS]

Senegal game ITV4

[Up-the-slope]

Senegal game ITV4

thats what i'm on - should be good.. (but with annoying trumpet / vuvuzela noise)

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

South Korea got a some really dodgy decisions against Spain and Italy if I remember correctly

Bloody expensive decisions! 😠

[hibsbollah]

There has been some chat on here about how Maradonas brutal treatment at world cups has been exaggerated by his fans to make a case that he’s the best ever.

Just heard a great stat today, Messi has just equaled Maradonas matches played at world cups. After 21 games each, Messi has been fouled 60 times. Maradona was fouled in the same number of games a total of 152 times, that’s over seven times a game. And it goes without saying those fouls will not be of the shirt pulling, obstruction type. They will be studs down the Achilles, stamp the metatarsal type fouls. The three most fouled players of all time at world cups have all been Maradona; 82 86 and 90.

It’s just a completely different game now.

[green day]

There has been some chat on here about how Maradonas brutal treatment at world cups has been exaggerated by his fans to make a case that he’s the best ever.

Just heard a great stat today, Messi has just equaled Maradonas matches played at world cups. After 21 games each, Messi has been fouled 60 times. Maradona was fouled in the same number of games a total of 152 times, that’s over seven times a game. The three most fouled players of all time at world cups have all been Maradona; 82 86 and 90.

It’s just a completely different game now.

Anyone thats old enough (you and me fit that category) to have watched some of DM matches can testify to the amount of ridic tackles he endured, the number of times he was totally clattered.

Not in the same category obviously, but its like when people talk about Boyles dives without mentioning how many times he is skelped up and down the park.

Good goal Gatko, terrible defending tho.......

[BILLYHIBS]

Gakpo

1-0 Netherlands

[Stairway 2 7]

1 nil Senegal penalty, been the better team and a stone waller

[Up-the-slope]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjKjSwgUHLY


If you can put up with Danny Dyer interjections... have a look at video above if you are too young to remember the level of aggro on the pitch in years gone by - no protection for skilled player. it seems unbelievable that a haymaker right hook was only worthy of a booking. todays players get so much protection to the point it can spoil the game (to be fair refs have got it about right in this tournament so far)

Senegal Pen and in the driving seat for 2nd spot

[hibsbollah]

Anyone thats old enough (you and me fit that category) to have watched some of DM matches can testify to the amount of ridic tackles he endured, the number of times he was totally clattered.

Not in the same category obviously, but its like when people talk about Boyles dives without mentioning how many times he is skelped up and down the park.

Good goal Gatko, terrible defending tho.......

It still can go tits up but potentially this could be the best WC collectively for African nations. Morocco look the pick of them but Ghana and Senegal both also look capable of a run at the quarters/semis.

[Hibbyradge]

Those painted Senegal fans could show our Ultras a thing of two. 😃

They look amazing and they just haven't stopped!

[blackpoolhibs]

Those painted Senegal fans could show our Ultras a thing of two. 😃

They look amazing and they just haven't stopped!

What else are they painting?

[Hibbyradge]

What else are they painting?

I've no idea but body paint is a lot cheaper than Stone Island gear.

Do we have enough Ultras to spell Hibernian or would we need to settle for Hibs?