The world cup thread

[ancient hibee]

England don't have the truly outstanding player that so often at World Cups drags their team through difficult games to victory. Bellingham could become that player-he'll only be 23 at the next one.

[B.H.F.C]

But collectively the squad is as good as any. Rice is not quite top level but then neither is Rabiot for France. Brazil and Argentina especially with several average players

It’s just fine margins at that level. England could easily win the game and the tournament. France’s experience and nous paid off.

I don’t think England need to reflect too much tbh

It’s quite a simplistic way to look at it, but when you see their record over a long period of time I think it just shows that their players aren’t as good (and haven’t been as good) as they’re hyped up to be and as the players other nations produce.

France are probably thr prime example. Most people would probably look at it and say Giroud and Rabiot don’t get in the England team. That’s two guys that have dozens of honours between them and are probably only playing because of injuries to other players.

Whilst folk will point to average players playing in many teams, I think a lot of the same can be said of many of the England squad.

[Stairway 2 7]

When will the England chat be over, Tuesday? Asking for myself.

[Iain G]

I can't believe that just because England are out that none of our national broadcasters are showing games today! It's a bloody disgrace and heads should role, the UK is more than just the home counties FFS....am raging!

[Lago]

On another note, now that Englandshire are oot, Michael Oliver surely must be in with a good shout of getting to referee the final.
Good referee, which we had his standard in Scotland

[The Spaceman]

For me World Class players are Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Lewandowski, Haaland and the likes who can carry and entire team on their backs at time.

Andy Robertson is a top player but I think word class is a push. Not sure who else in the Scotland squad would even be considered close.

Same applies to USA / Canada. Davies and Pulisic are good but never word class

Andy Robertson was recently voted by Liverpool fans as the best LB they’ve ever had. In their entire history. He is World Class. I’d put the likes of Messi, Mbappe, CR7 and Haaland in that above-World Class category - they are among the greatest players ever (Haaland and Mbappe on their way to that status of course, not there yet although a WC double at 23 probably does it for Mbappe).

[JimBHibees]

Good referee, which we had his standard in Scotland

Agree excellent ref

[Donegal Hibby]

As long as it's not the Spanish referee that was awful 🙄

[HoboHarry]

Good referee, which we had his standard in Scotland

I wish Scottish referees were even as good as the lowest ranked English Elite Referees.

[essexhibee]

When will the England chat be over, Tuesday? Asking for myself.

We still need to hear from Jason Cundy and Simon Jordan. Should be good.

[Jim44]

I can't believe that just because England are out that none of our national broadcasters are showing games today! It's a bloody disgrace and heads should role, the UK is more than just the home counties FFS....am raging!

Sorry if I’m missing something here, but which games are they not broadcasting today?:confused:

[JohnM1875]

I genuinely can't believe they're blaming it on the ref! They were awarded two penalties. The Kane one was outside the box and var reviewed it, so never a penalty.

England played well. They were unlucky but in no way was the ref to blame. Have a word.

[WeeRussell]

Sorry if I’m missing something here, but which games are they not broadcasting today?:confused:

He’s not being serious, Jim 👍

[Iain G]

Sorry if I’m missing something here, but which games are they not broadcasting today?:confused:

Any of them! Have been through all the channels and nothing,anywhere! Bloody sore losers only showing the first four quarter finals until England get knocked out! ****ers!!




Oh and 😉

[Donegal Hibby]

Reading a story earlier that Mateu Lahoz has reportedly been sent home . He's the Spanish referee that was in charge of Argentina v Holland game . Something I hadn't realised that he created history with the most yellow cards in a world cup game , as many as 18 players were booked according to what I read plus Argentina manager and coach too . The previous record was jointly held by Germany v Cameroon 1998 and Portugal v Holland 2006 . The Argentina keeper could be facing a ban for the semi for calling him crazy, arrogant and useless and the worst referee at world cup . The 10 minutes added time was also brought up by Argentina players . Messi quote = I think FIFA must take care of this ' it cannot put a referee like that for a match of such magnitude , of such importance , the referee cannot fail to be up to the task !

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Bostonhibby]

I genuinely can't believe they're blaming it on the ref! They were awarded two penalties. The Kane one was outside the box and var reviewed it, so never a penalty.

England played well. They were unlucky but in no way was the ref to blame. Have a word.The double handed shove on Giroud in the box appears to have been missed by an entire nation, or at least region.

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[HoboHarry]

Reading a story earlier that Mateu Lahoz has reportedly been sent home . He's the Spanish referee that was in charge of Argentina v Holland game . Something I hadn't realised that he created history with the most yellow cards in a world cup game , as many as 18 players were booked according to what I read plus Argentina manager and coach too . The previous record was jointly held by Germany v Cameroon 1998 and Portugal v Holland 2006 . The Argentina keeper could be facing a ban for the semi for calling him crazy, arrogant and useless and the worst referee at world cup . The 10 minutes added time was also brought up by Argentina players . Messi quote = I think FIFA must take care of this ' it cannot put a referee like that for a match of such magnitude , of such importance , the referee cannot fail to be up to the task !

In fairness, there are only a small number of games left so not too many officials still required. I'd be curious to know if Michael Oliver or Anthony Taylor are still there?

[Donegal Hibby]

In fairness, there are only a small number of games left so not too many officials still required. I'd be curious to know if Michael Oliver or Anthony Taylor are still there?
Referee for Argentina game is a Italian called Daniele Orsato .The two you mentioned Michael Oliver has gone home but Anthony Taylor is still out apparently.
https://www.givemesport.com/88093832-world-cup-referees-which-officials-are-in-contention-to-take-charge-of-the-final

[hibsbollah]

The double handed shove on Giroud in the box appears to have been missed by an entire nation, or at least region.

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Talking of Giroud, I just found out he played for a third tier French league side called Istres on loan from his home town club as a 21 year old, trying to make a breakthrough into full time pro. His manager that season? Ex Hibby Freddie Arpinion, who later suggested a formal link up between the two clubs to swap talent :grr:

He could have been the focal point of a Benji Giroud Fletcher front three, with wee Zemmama pulling the strings just behind.

Missed the boat again.

[Iain G]

Talking of Giroud, I just found out he played for a third tier French league side called Istres on loan from his home town club as a 21 year old, trying to make a breakthrough into full time pro. His manager that season? Ex Hibby Freddie Arpinion, who later suggested a formal link up between the two clubs to swap talent :grr:

He could have been the focal point of a Benji Giroud Fletcher front three, with wee Zemmama pulling the strings just behind.

Missed the boat again.

Could Freddie Arpinon still do a job for us in midfield? 😁

[JeMeSouviens]

Could Freddie Arpinon still do a job for us in midfield? 😁

Almost certainly yes. This is not a good thing.

[Bostonhibby]

Could Freddie Arpinon still do a job for us in midfield? [emoji16]Sadly, yes.....

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[Bostonhibby]

Talking of Giroud, I just found out he played for a third tier French league side called Istres on loan from his home town club as a 21 year old, trying to make a breakthrough into full time pro. His manager that season? Ex Hibby Freddie Arpinion, who later suggested a formal link up between the two clubs to swap talent :grr:

He could have been the focal point of a Benji Giroud Fletcher front three, with wee Zemmama pulling the strings just behind.

Missed the boat again.All good now though, I've heard we have a transfer committee[emoji6]

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[Iain G]

Almost certainly yes. This is not a good thing.

He was a lovely footballer!

[hibsbollah]

All good now though, I've heard we have a transfer committee[emoji6]

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I hear it’s an audacious move for Giroud as a sweeper keeper.

[JimBHibees]

Could Freddie Arpinon still do a job for us in midfield? 😁

Did he ever do a job for us? :greengrin

[SteveHFC]

ITV making it about England as usual :faf:

[bingo70]

ITV making it about England as usual :faf:

Still going on about how they were better than France but were just unlucky.

They really weren’t.

[Onion]

ITV making it about England as usual :faf:

World Cup Semifinal involving Messi and ITV choose to pre-match it with England's journey and future of Gareth Southgate - like it matters :greengrin

And have you ever seen a more glum, sour-pussed group in your puff ? If you can't get your mood up for a WC Semi, maybe you're in the wrong job :greengrin

[Mon Dieu4]

Still going on about how they were better than France but were just unlucky.

They really weren’t.

Someone should mention that it wasn't even a full strength French team since they were missing Pogba and Benzema as well

[B.H.F.C]

Someone should mention that it wasn't even a full strength French team since they were missing Pogba and Benzema as well

And ****e, Kimpembe and Hernandez.

[I'm_cabbaged]

What’s the group name for a bunch of slavering *****? ITV football panel

[pollution]

It's guy weird watching a world cup match with a hard frost outside. I miss the summer version !

[Onion]

What’s the group name for a bunch of slavering *****? ITV football panel

They've all been pre-briefed to be as dour as possible, so as not to upset the grieving English audience. Only thing missing are black armbands for these 3 or 4 wasters.

[ronaldo7]

Looking forward to this one. Tactics will play a big part. I think it'll be difficult but think Argentina just might win the midfield battle.

[HoboHarry]

Play acting theatrics started already.

[Onion]

Play acting theatrics started already.

That would class as entertainment at this point.

Horrible, cagey semifinal involving Croatia :rolleyes:.

[Iain G]

That would class as entertainment at this point.

Horrible, cagey semifinal involving Croatia :rolleyes:.

Am enjoying this, it's very engrossing and Croatia pass it well

[Green Reaper]

Need Argentina to score first to open up this game

[Donegal Hibby]

Croatia have a very good team , going to be a tight game 🤔

[heretoday]

I'm finding it an engrossing game. Mind you I am on a Spanish stream and they're going crazy.

[hibsbollah]

The quality of pass and move is just exceptional. It’s like a champions league final.

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty Argentina.

[Onion]

The quality of pass and move is just exceptional. It’s like a champions league final.

It's garbage. Hopefully the pen goes in and we have a proper game of football to watch.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Argentina

[JamesHFC]

🐐

[Onion]

What a penalty. You don't stop those :thumbsup:

[Paul1642]

Unstoppable pen

[ronaldo7]

His hammy seemed to be fine there.

[heretoday]

Booooooo.....

[Iain G]

It's garbage. Hopefully the pen goes in and we have a proper game of football to watch.

It's anything but garbage!

[hibsbollah]

It's garbage. Hopefully the pen goes in and we have a proper game of football to watch.

Ok, I’m loving it. Top notch football.Clearly we like different things :aok:

[Donegal Hibby]

Any keeper behind that ends up in the net too😂 .

[SteveHFC]

What a goal.

[Sir David Gray]

Oh wow goal of the tournament.

[hibsbollah]

Oh yes

[Callum_62]

2-0 argentina

Alvarez

A bit fortunate

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[Lago]

It's garbage. Hopefully the pen goes in and we have a proper game of football to watch.
Garbage, I suppose that counts as an opinion.
2nd goal a beauty

[Since452]

Oh well EastEnders time

[Onion]

It's anything but garbage!

Not now. At last, we have a game. 2-0

[Betty Boop]

Yasssssss

[Callum_62]

Oh wow goal of the tournament.Na, a lucky break through for me

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[JamesHFC]

Showing the Brazilians how it's done..

[Donegal Hibby]

Ok, I’m loving it. Top notch football.Clearly we like different things :aok:
Really enjoying it myself , proper world cup game that's got everything 😁 . What a goal unbelievable stuff 👏

[Green Reaper]

Got a couple breaks there but what determination and great finish

[J-C]

Cracking 2nd goal, wee bit lucky with the bounce but still a beauty.

[Sir David Gray]

Na, a lucky break through for me

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Unbelievable counter attacking football.

Outstanding.

[Green Reaper]

Ooft, great save!

[heretoday]

The Croatians final ball is sadly lacking. They'll get humped now.

[Pretty Boy]

That is an unbelievable save.

Argentina are winning this tournament. Said it since the 2nd round of group games and stand by it now.

[blackpoolhibs]

Lee Dixon is a slaver, croatia been the better side. :faf:

[SaulGoodman]

Messi is a man on a mission

[Allant1981]

My bet builder complete already and it's only half time happy days

[heretoday]

The Argies have been been stronger so fair's fair.

[Willis1875]

Argentina playing this game perfectly thus far,Tactics are spot on

[Aldo]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!

[Pretty Boy]

How can the pundits says that's not a penalty? Fair enough keeper can't get out the way but he commits to that position, if you block a player off on the half way line by stopping dead still then it's free kick. The keeper comes with the intention of getting the ball, he doesn't and obstructs the player by using his body to block him off and take him out the game. Penalty.

Thankfully Peter Walton seems to have something resembling a brain.

[hibbytam]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!

It's mental, it's about as clear a penalty as you're going to see

[MWHIBBIES]

holy **** all 3 of them don't think that is a penalty. Clowns

[Paul1642]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!

And refuse to accept the rational of ex ref Peter Walton.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Never heard so much ***** in all my life

[The Spaceman]

We are seeing Messi back at his very best (with maybe a yard or two less pace) but playing without all that weight of expectation that seemed to burden him in previous World Cups. You’d think this one would have the most pressure on him, but the Copa America win seems to have completely turned the mentality of the team and support. Would love to see them win it this year but still think France will win.

[Sir David Gray]

How can the pundits says that's not a penalty? Fair enough keeper can't get out the way but he commits to that position, if you block a player off on the half way line by stopping dead still then it's free kick.

Thankfully Peter Walton seems to have something resembling a brain.

It's staggering that these three are on this panel to offer their so called expert analysis and can get such a fundamental thing so wrong.

[Paul1642]

We are seeing Messi back at his very best (with maybe a yard or two less pace) but playing without all that weight of expectation that seemed to burden him in previous World Cups. You’d think this one would have the most pressure on him, but the Copa America win seems to have completely turned the mentality of the team and support. Would love to see them win it this year but still think France will win.

Agree. He really looks like he’s enjoying every game.

[Onion]

English ITV guys are no happy with life, the ref, VAR or Peter Walton and generally wish they were anywhere other than at the WC in Qatar :greengrin

[jeffers]

How can the pundits says that's not a penalty? Fair enough keeper can't get out the way but he commits to that position, if you block a player off on the half way line by stopping dead still then it's free kick.

Thankfully Peter Walton seems to have something resembling a brain.

Tbh I didn’t think at the time it was a penalty though can see why it was given. I disagree about blocking a player. Different if you run into them but like the panel I don’t see it as a foul for standing your ground. Regarding Peter Walton, has he ever disagreed with a decision a referee has given ?

[Callum_62]

Can't belive the whole panel said never a penalty

[emoji23][emoji23]

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[BILLYHIBS]

If that was Harry Kane they all be screaming for a pen

[WeeRussell]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!

I didn’t even think it there was an argument to be had until they started their moaning. Never mind for them to be so insistent.

“Where’s he meant to go”… well he shouldn’t run out and get in the way if he can’t get out of it again.

Looked a stonewall penalty to me.

I always regard neville as by far and away the best pundit on our TVs, but I’ve never disagreed with him so much as I have during this World Cup

[JeMeSouviens]

Stonewalliest stonewaller of the world cup. They really hate the Argies, don’t they?

[Bostonhibby]

Can't belive the whole panel said never a penalty

[emoji23][emoji23]

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkNeville making a subliminal connection that it can't have been one because England were denied the one that every commentator in england decreed was one, and therefore the only reason an under strength below par French team beat them?

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[Donegal Hibby]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!
Shay Givens didn't think it was either on RTE , more of a coming together . Penalty all day long for me , think the Croatian keeper was lucky one of his players got back in time or his yellow card could have been a red card!

[Jim44]

Wright, Neville and Keane………. absolute tossers of the first order. Experienced ex-professionals who don’t understand the rules of football. Even in the face of indisputable input from someone who gives a difinitive ruling, they insist he is wrong. A sacking offence in my opinion. :greengrin

[JamesHFC]

Ally McCoist one of the best pundits in the game.

[cabbageandribs1875]

only saw the goals at HT

Penalty all day long

end of


keeper stuck his leg out to stop the dude

[Donegal Hibby]

If that was Harry Kane they all be screaming for a pen
Even when it's outside the box too 🤣

[Lago]

So none of the panelist’s think it’s a penalty!
But super Ally and Dixon do

[Paulie Walnuts]

That is absolutely bizarre that they didn’t think that was a penalty.

[Pretty Boy]

Tbh I didn’t think at the time it was a penalty though can see why it was given. I disagree about blocking a player. Different if you run into them but like the panel I don’t see it as a foul for standing your ground. Regarding Peter Walton, has he ever disagreed with a decision a referee has given ?

The keeper isn't just standing about though. If the striker ran into him when he was just minding his own business then no penalty. He's actively made a movement into that position, striker has got to the ball first and the keeper has by moving to said position blocked him off and prevented him potentially scoring.

I'll defend keepers wherever possible but in this instance, it's a penalty.

[JimBHibees]

That is absolutely bizarre that they didn’t think that was a penalty.

Yep still bitter after France game. Ridiculous chat

[Aldo]

I didn’t even think it there was an argument to be had until they started their moaning. Never mind for them to be so insistent.

“Where’s he meant to go”… well he shouldn’t run out and get in the way if he can’t get out of it again.

Looked a stonewall penalty to me.

I always regard neville as by far and away the best pundit on our TVs, but I’ve never disagreed with him so much as I have during this World Cup

Ally called it. If that challenge is made anywhere else on the it’s a foul.

Penalty all day long and even when they ask Walton they still don’t think it’s a foul!

[BILLYHIBS]

Ally spot on that is a foul anywhere else on the pitch

[JimBHibees]

The keeper isn't just standing about though. If the striker ran into him when he was just minding his own business then no penalty. He's actively made a movement into that position, striker has got to the ball first and the keeper has by moving to said position blocked him off and prevented him potentially scoring.

I'll defend keepers wherever possible but in this instance, it's a penalty.

Yep clearly moved across the run of the striker. Clear pen

[BILLYHIBS]

Croatia bringing on the big boys a la Hollandaise

[ronaldo7]

Croatia opening it up with their subs. More goals in this hopefully.

[Bostonhibby]

Yep clearly moved across the run of the striker. Clear penAs blatantly obviously a penalty as the double handed push in Giroud's back in the penalty box but nowhere near the analysis........

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[jeffers]

The keeper isn't just standing about though. If the striker ran into him when he was just minding his own business then no penalty. He's actively made a movement into that position, striker has got to the ball first and the keeper has by moving to said position blocked him off and prevented him potentially scoring.

I'll defend keepers wherever possible but in this instance, it's a penalty.

I thought he moved towards him initially, stopped and Alvarez made sure he collided with the keeper. Like I said I can see why it was given though.

[JimBHibees]

Lee Dixon is a slaver, croatia been the better side. :faf:

Yep absolute rocket

[Donegal Hibby]

Yep still bitter after France game. Ridiculous chat
Don't like the Argentina or France . Should be a happy TV panel if that's who's in the final?😂

[Sir David Gray]

And refuse to accept the rational of ex ref Peter Walton.

Ian Wright's the worst, sitting there arrogantly shaking his head and saying "no" as an ex referee tries to explain why it was a penalty as per the laws of the game.

Absolute plum.

[Colr]

Ian Wright's the worst, sitting there arrogantly shaking his head and saying "no" as an ex referee tries to explain why it was a penalty as per the laws of the game.

Absolute plum.

Ian Wright was a great footballer and he’s very enthusiastic about Arsenal but his opinion on the game offers less insight that any rondom bloke in a Finsbury Park boozer.

And the ITV app is utter schecht.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Large part of crowd on far side still can't be arsed coming back from their half time pie by the look of it.

[Sir David Gray]

Ally McCoist one of the best pundits in the game.

Excellent pundit.

Fair and balanced almost every time I've listened to him and speaks sense as well.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Ian Wright's the worst, sitting there arrogantly shaking his head and saying "no" as an ex referee tries to explain why it was a penalty as per the laws of the game.

Absolute plum.

"Experts what do they know?"

A lot more than clowns like Wright who shouldn't be sitting there when they don't even know the rules.

[Pretty Boy]

Excellent pundit.

Fair and balanced almost every time I've listened to him and speaks sense as well.

McCoist is saving this tonight.

I thought we might be spared the Matterface & Dixon combo now that England are out but it seems not.

All the personality of 2 traffic cones and probably less insightful.

[JimBHibees]

Excellent pundit.

Fair and balanced almost every time I've listened to him and speaks sense as well.

Yep also doesn't take himself too seriously. Wee bit of humour always helps

[SaulGoodman]

That Macallister looks like a good player.

[Bostonhibby]

McCoist is saving this tonight.

I thought we might be spared the Matterface & Dixon combo now that England are out but it seems not.

All the personality of 2 traffic cones and probably less insightful.[emoji23]

Traffic cones everywhere will be consulting their lawyers.

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[Pretty Boy]

That Macallister looks like a good player.

He has a brother called Kevin. That's not a joke.

Alex, Kevin and (3rd brother) Frank Macalister and we couldn't claim them for our own

[Sir David Gray]

3-0

[Callum_62]

Offt Lionel

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[Mon Dieu4]

Quite simply the man

[I'm_cabbaged]

The best player ever

[Onion]

"Experts what do they know?"

A lot more than clowns like Wright who shouldn't be sitting there when they don't even know the rules.

He's there as a fan boy for English audience, not for his razor sharp analysis of the game or entertaining chat. The 4 in the studio should have come back with the cat, but no doubt their cynicism is being lapped up by those that think England were hard down by.

Oh dear, 3-0. How low can they go :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Do you get the feeling Messi is enjoying this?

That was class.

[Lago]

What a goal, what a goal!!!!

[weecounty hibby]

Greatest. Player. Ever

[MWHIBBIES]

Come on, best player ever, no debate. Diego was in the pub at this age. Messi still miles to good for the opposition.

[JamesHFC]

Gvardiol is no mug either. Unbelievable stuff, the greatest ever for me.

[Up-the-slope]

best assist of WC so far?

[truehibernian]

Messi v Ronaldo = no contest 👍

[hibsbollah]

Just wonderful.
I’m a huge Diego fan but the case for Messi is getting harder to and harder to argue against now.

[Lago]

Greatest. Player. Ever
So so true

[Pretty Boy]

2016 and the final absolute proof that Ronaldo was the GOAT seems a long time ago now.

A Copa America and quite possibly a WC has somewhat flipped that argument.

[Onion]

The best player ever

It's footballing genius and what most want to watch in a semifinal :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Best ever absolute genuis

[Donegal Hibby]

World cup at it's best . Messi magic 👏

[Mibbes Aye]

[emoji23]

Traffic cones everywhere will be consulting their lawyers.

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Traffic cones everywhere are looking at the Croatian defence and wondering if they are related!

Not taking anything away from Messi, it wasn't just magical, it was pretty typical. Which is magical times magic squared! :greengrin

[Up-the-slope]

Messi v Ronaldo = no contest 👍

Do you think CR7 is watching :greengrin

[CL0762]

He’s just made a 20yr old, who’s rightly being spoken about as one of the best defenders at the tournament has just been made to look like an absolute mug.

The stars have aligned 😍

[HoboHarry]

Defender just turned inside out there. That'll give him sleepless nights for a long time to come.

[Mon Dieu4]

2016 and the final absolute proof that Ronaldo was the GOAT seems a long time ago now.

A Copa America and quite possibly a WC has somewhat flipped that argument.

I genuinely think its never been close, some people just thought it was, Ronaldo is a great goal scorer but Messi has it all

[Paulie Walnuts]

The best player to ever play the game. Regardless of whether they go on to win it, what a World Cup he’s had.

[Smartie]

Just wonderful.
I’m a huge Diego fan but the case for Messi is getting harder to and harder to argue against now.

You could argue that before now he had a “significant performance in the latter stages of a World Cup” shaped gap on his cv.

Not any more. This has been immense, and the significance of a contribution like this in a semi final should never be downplayed.

[Donegal Hibby]

Lee Dixon is a slaver, croatia been the better side. :faf:
Wonder if Lee Dixon is feeling a tad embarrassed now :foot:

[hibsbollah]

That’s quite a noise the assembled are making. With all the inflation and devaluation must make it hard to travel.

[MWHIBBIES]

The pages following Argentina's first game will be a hoot if they win Sunday

[hibsbollah]

You could argue that before now he had a “significant performance in the latter stages of a World Cup” shaped gap on his cv.

Not any more. This has been immense, and the significance of a contribution like this in a semi final should never be downplayed.

I find the whole ‘who’s the GOAT’ conversation gets a bit boring, it takes over the internet a bit. I just feel it’s really about who we LIKE the best. But the case for Messi is pretty watertight now really.

[Mon Dieu4]

I find the whole ‘who’s the GOAT’ conversation gets a bit boring, it takes over the internet a bit. I just feel it’s really about who we LIKE the best. I

Had Messi ever done a famous duck heider? No, Amadou wins

[Donegal Hibby]

Sad , that's the last we will see Modric at a world cup :not worth

[Onion]

Wonder if Lee Dixon is feeling a tad embarrassed now :foot:

Nope, it's simply wishful thinking and denial by Dixon, another fanboy stranded in Qatar. The 4 in the studio will be a picture after this :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

I find the whole ‘who’s the GOAT’ conversation gets a bit boring, it takes over the internet a bit. I just feel it’s really about who we LIKE the best. But the case for Messi is pretty watertight now really.
Exactly, my dad will still likely claim it's de Stefano.

[JimBHibees]

Sad , that's the last we will see Modric at a world cup :not worth

Wonderful footballer

[MWHIBBIES]

Sad , that's the last we will see Modric at a world cup :not worth

3rd place game still to be played no?

[HoboHarry]

Lovren scoring there would have set up a finish but not to be....

[hibsbollah]

Had Messi ever done a famous duck heider? No, Amadou wins

:tut: THE duck. When a ‘skill’ gets named after you, it’s a ‘the’. THE Amadou Duck.

[Paulie Walnuts]

3rd place game still to be played no?

Yup, on Saturday.

[Donegal Hibby]

3rd place game still to be played no?
Forgot about that one which is a bonus :thumbsup:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Argentina v France please ta

[Paulie Walnuts]

Argentina v France please ta

Would love Morocco to beat France but I can’t see it.

[Col2]

Wright and Neville are so flat in the studio at FT. Are they still bubbling over England quarter final defeat?

[SteveHFC]

Generally can’t see past Argentina for the World Cup Now.

[Donegal Hibby]

Argentina v France please ta
I hope for this too , would be a more open game rather than Morocco sitting in deep. Messi now top scorer in world cup for Argentina.

[hibsbollah]

Would love Morocco to beat France but I can’t see it.

Morocco’s key players seem to be fit, which was the worry about it being competitive.
France are obviously big favourites, but Morocco have the players to win it on their day.
There’s something very appropriate about a France and Argentina final. Mbappe and Messi but lots of supporting cast as well.

[CB Hibs 68]

Windsor on Leith Walk is the place to watch the final on Sunday.Pubs been adopted by Argentines for the World Cup and is great to see them celebrate.Hope they do it on Sunday.Stuck a few quid on them before the tournament started .Come on Argentina

[Steve20]

Would love Messi to win the World Cup. But I can’t see past France.

[Donegal Hibby]

That game was brilliant , Croatia are a very good side and were made to look quite ordinary by a brilliant Argentina team , overall it's been a outstanding world cup and is up there as one of the best

[The Modfather]

Penny for Ronaldo’s thoughts.

[The Spaceman]

We are witnessing something very, very special here with Messi in this World Cup. Honestly sitting here thinking this is history. Absolute joy to watch.

[Jim44]

Penny for Ronaldo’s thoughts.

Ronaldo will be thinking about Ronaldo.

[J-C]

Well done Argentina, thoroughly deserved and delighted for Messi who I thought was brilliant again tonight.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I find the whole ‘who’s the GOAT’ conversation gets a bit boring, it takes over the internet a bit. I just feel it’s really about who we LIKE the best. But the case for Messi is pretty watertight now really.

same.

I despise the term ‘goat’ for starters but that’s beside the point.

I’ll just never understand why the debate gets so heated and why people seem to take it so personally.

I enjoyed watching maradona and I’ve enjoyed watching Ronaldo (both of them), zidane and Messi.

why people can’t just enjoy watching wonderful players without fighting over who’s the greatest is beyond me

[Paulie Walnuts]

We are witnessing something very, very special here with Messi in this World Cup. Honestly sitting here thinking this is history. Absolute joy to watch.

:agree:

This will be talked about for years to come if he wins it.

Scored in nearly every game, Golden Ball is a cert if he wins it, potentially top scorer and winner. It’ll be the cherry on top of the most decorated and exceptional career football has ever seen.

The only thing that would concern me is that he’d have nothing left to play for.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I find the whole ‘who’s the GOAT’ conversation gets a bit boring, it takes over the internet a bit. I just feel it’s really about who we LIKE the best. But the case for Messi is pretty watertight now really.

same.

I despise the term ‘goat’ for starters but that’s beside the point.

I’ll just never understand why the debate gets so heated and why people seem to take it so personally.

I enjoyed watching maradona and I’ve enjoyed watching Ronaldo (both of them), zidane and Messi.

why people can’t just enjoy watching wonderful players without fighting over who’s the greatest is beyond me

[Donegal Hibby]

Ronaldo will be thinking about Ronaldo.
Messi lifting the world cup would be like a kick in the Ronaldo's to him though 😁

[heretoday]

Exactly, my dad will still likely claim it's de Stefano.

Eusebio for me.

[Glory Lurker]

Combine them all together and they're still just a poor man's Gordon Smith.

[cameronw-hfc]

Eusebio for me.

My dad thinks Maradona etc aren't Messi level . He thinks Messi is on his own planet as the greatest.

Edit- I personally don't see an argument for anyone else. Think sentiment takes over for Maradona, his stats don't compare to Messi, and the eye test is close between them. Messi has taken football to levels we genuinely might never see again. Best there is, best there was, and quite possibly the best there ever will be.

[Pagan Hibernia]

My dad thinks Maradona etc aren't Messi level . He thinks Messi is on his own planet as the greatest.

Edit- I personally don't see an argument for anyone else. Think sentiment takes over for Maradona, his stats don't compare to Messi, and the eye test is close between them. Messi has taken football to levels we genuinely might never see again. Best there is, best there was, and quite possibly the best there ever will be.

other geniuses will come along. They always do

[cameronw-hfc]

other geniuses will come along. They always do

The last bit is a quote, not sure who from. I don't literally think there will never ever be a player as good as Messi, it's a bit of hyperbole but only added it as I think fits a brilliant quote about him. Although I'm not sure we will ever see another player hold so many records on his own. Ronaldo is probably the closest, but by levels we might never see I mean the records. He's holds so many records people thought would never be broken, and he absolutely smashed them

[SaulGoodman]

The last bit is a quote, not sure who from.

Bret Hart

[cameronw-hfc]

Bret Hart

As in the wrestler lol? I remember a commentator using that quote about Messi and just thought it was class.

[HoboHarry]

Penny for Ronaldo’s thoughts.

He's on the phone with Piers Morgan berating Messi for spoiling his legacy.

[Baader]

Comparing players from different eras is ludicrous and child-like. GOAT and all that is playground level discussion.

Just enjoy them when they play. Loved watching Argentina tonight and do hope Messi finally gets his hands on that trophy. He's given so much joy to the sport we love. Been a privilege seeing him.

[HibsGW]

I really hope Messi wins it now, the story behind it would be amazing and with what he’s given to football over the years it’d be hugely deserved. A truly incredible player and even now in his older years, he’s giving defenders tipped for 80m moves the run around, he just makes it all look so easy, players like him are why I love football.

[WeeRussell]

same.

I despise the term ‘goat’ for starters but that’s beside the point.

I’ll just never understand why the debate gets so heated and why people seem to take it so personally.

I enjoyed watching maradona and I’ve enjoyed watching Ronaldo (both of them), zidane and Messi.

why people can’t just enjoy watching wonderful players without fighting over who’s the greatest is beyond me

Yep. I personally think Messi must be the best player ever to kick a ball, and that I’ll never see anyone quite like him again.

But I’d happily never say that again if it meant not having to ever hear the term “Goat” to describe a footballer again.

[JimBHibees]

Wright and Neville are so flat in the studio at FT. Are they still bubbling over England quarter final defeat?

Nevilles description of Argentina as something like 10 battlers and one genius did seem a little bitter :greengrin

[SaulGoodman]

As in the wrestler lol? I remember a commentator using that quote about Messi and just thought it was class.

Yep 😂

[Since452]

I'd love to see Morocco win the WC but think France are the only team that will stop the Argies so Vive La France!

[Gloucester Hibs]

Bret Hart

TBF he also claimed to be ‘the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be’ 😃

[danhibees1875]

Would also agree to disliking all the "Goat" talk and the respective fanboys of each who spend their days on twitter trying to belittle the other one with "penaldo" or "pessi". Can't get my head around it, but it's nice to have a hobby I guess.

I like the Portuguese national team, and as a result I liked Ronaldo more; that wasn't to diminish Messi though. I think Messi has more natural football ability, whilst Ronaldo is more of an athlete. I thought that mix would serve Ronaldo better into older age, but this WC would seem proof of the opposite (I haven't really followed them domestically to know how well they've been doing up to now) and Messi has looked phenomenally gifted still, whilst Ronaldo looks a liability.

[hibsbollah]

Nevilles description of Argentina as something like 10 battlers and one genius did seem a little bitter :greengrin

There is a unshakable anti Argie hangup in the English TV studios. Seems to be historical, running from Alf Ramsay right through the Falklands to the hand of god and the Beckham sending off. The reaction to the first half penalty decision was actually embarrassing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There is a unshakable anti Argie hangup in the English TV studios. Seems to be historical, running from Alf Ramsay right through the Falklands to the hand of god and the Beckham sending off. The reaction to the first half penalty decision was actually embarrassing.

:agree:

Quite laughable that 3 experts came to that conclusion, had an ex referee explain why it’s a penalty and then declared “na, it’s not a penalty.”

[Iain G]

There is a unshakable anti Argie hangup in the English TV studios. Seems to be historical, running from Alf Ramsay right through the Falklands to the hand of god and the Beckham sending off. The reaction to the first half penalty decision was actually embarrassing.

Roy Keane, who usually calls a spade a ****ing eejit ****ing spade said it wasnt a penalty, maybe he has developed an anti-Argentina agenda from being in with the ingerlish folks? :confused:

Or maybe they simply didn't think it was a penalty?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Roy Keane, who usually calls a spade a ****ing eejit ****ing spade said it wasnt a penalty, maybe he has developed an anti-Argentina agenda from being in with the ingerlish folks? :confused:

Or maybe they simply didn't think it was a penalty?

If they didn’t think it was a penalty they shouldn’t be on the tv giving an ‘expert’ opinion.

[Iain G]

If they didn’t think it was a penalty they shouldn’t be on the tv giving an ‘expert’ opinion.

Well that would make life very dull! It's called an opinion for a reason :na na:

[CL0762]

My dad thinks Maradona etc aren't Messi level . He thinks Messi is on his own planet as the greatest.

Edit- I personally don't see an argument for anyone else. Think sentiment takes over for Maradona, his stats don't compare to Messi, and the eye test is close between them. Messi has taken football to levels we genuinely might never see again. Best there is, best there was, and quite possibly the best there ever will be.

I think it’s all about context, stats wise you cannot look past Pele as the best ever but you can’t compare someone from the 50s/60s to someone playing now as it’s a completely different game.

Maradona dragged a rotten Napoli side to a Serie A title, something that goes beyond stats IMO.

Players from different generations leave marks on football, Pele/Eusebio from the 50s/60s and then you’ve got ones like Cruyff/Maradona/R9/Zidane etc that have left different legacies in their own eras.

As the best I’ve ever seen, it’s Messi but that’s only because I was born in 91, so can only go by what I’ve watched football as I understood it. I’ve seen highlights of the greats above but I wasn’t here to watch football at that time so I naturally compare them to what I’ve grown up watching.

I just feel privileged to have been able to watch so many players like Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7 at their absolute peak but also have a tinge of jealousy I didn’t get to see the others like Maradona, Pele, Cruyff etc at theirs.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it’s all about context, stats wise you cannot look past Pele as the best ever but you can’t compare someone from the 50s/60s to someone playing now as it’s a completely different game.

Maradona dragged a rotten Napoli side to a Serie A title, something that goes beyond stats IMO.

Players from different generations leave marks on football, Pele/Eusebio from the 50s/60s and then you’ve got ones like Cruyff/Maradona/R9/Zidane etc that have left different legacies in their own eras.

As the best I’ve ever seen, it’s Messi but that’s only because I was born in 91, so can only go by what I’ve watched football as I understood it. I’ve seen highlights of the greats above but I wasn’t here to watch football at that time so I naturally compare them to what I’ve grown up watching.

I just feel privileged to have been able to watch so many players like Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7 at their absolute peak but also have a tinge of jealousy I didn’t get to see the others like Maradona, Pele, Cruyff etc at theirs.

It's all opinions in the end, I think Messi is th best player ever, some think others. What i will say about Maradonna's Napoli though, is they were far from rotten. :greengrin

[overdrive]

We are witnessing something very, very special here with Messi in this World Cup. Honestly sitting here thinking this is history. Absolute joy to watch.

One of the arguments commonly put forward for Maradona being the greatest player is him pretty much dragging Argentina to the '86 World Cup. I think Messi is doing the same here (that's not to say the rest of the Argentina team are poor like the English media will have you believe).

[overdrive]

I think it’s all about context, stats wise you cannot look past Pele as the best ever but you can’t compare someone from the 50s/60s to someone playing now as it’s a completely different game.

Maradona dragged a rotten Napoli side to a Serie A title, something that goes beyond stats IMO.

Players from different generations leave marks on football, Pele/Eusebio from the 50s/60s and then you’ve got ones like Cruyff/Maradona/R9/Zidane etc that have left different legacies in their own eras.

As the best I’ve ever seen, it’s Messi but that’s only because I was born in 91, so can only go by what I’ve watched football as I understood it. I’ve seen highlights of the greats above but I wasn’t here to watch football at that time so I naturally compare them to what I’ve grown up watching.

I just feel privileged to have been able to watch so many players like Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7 at their absolute peak but also have a tinge of jealousy I didn’t get to see the others like Maradona, Pele, Cruyff etc at theirs.

Yep, very difficult to compare different eras. I was born in '84 so can only really remember football from the early 90s onwards but when you see clips of games from the 60s/70s, it looks like walking football in comparison to the game today. Even stuff from the 80s/90s looks slow in comparison. The players these days are better athletes by and large than those from the past.

The one decent bit of insight Dixon gave last night was about the assist Messi gave Alvarez. It isn't speed from Messi that was causing the problems for Croatia. It was the slowing down. He'd be running at them and then all of a sudden would pretty much come to a standstill before twisting, turning and then running again. Very difficult to defend against.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's all opinions in the end, I think Messi is th best player ever, some think others. What i will say about Maradonna's Napoli though, is they were far from rotten. :greengrin

:agree:

Ciro Ferrara, Salvatore Bagni, Fernando Di Napoli, Bruno Giordano, Andrea Carnevale, Alemao, Massimo Crippa, Careca, Gianfranco Zola.

It’s a myth that they were absolutely rotten, much like it’s a myth the 86 Argentina side were rotten or that Maradona won the WC by himself. Was he the main man for these teams? Absolutely. Was he the sole reason they won these trophies? Absolutely not. Maradona scored 10 goals when Napoli won the 86/87 league, never in a million years can that be considered someone that’s single handedly won a team a league.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yep, very difficult to compare different eras. I was born in '84 so can only really remember football from the early 90s onwards but when you see clips of games from the 60s/70s, it looks like walking football in comparison to the game today. Even stuff from the 80s/90s looks slow in comparison. The players these days are better athletes by and large than those from the past.

The one decent bit of insight Dixon gave last night was about the assist Messi gave Alvarez. It isn't speed from Messi that was causing the problems for Croatia. It was the slowing down. He'd be running at them and then all of a sudden would pretty much come to a standstill before twisting, turning and then running again. Very difficult to defend against.

I seen a stat a while ago that said that in the 70s players covered something like 7km per game on average. Players now are well into double figures. Bobby Madden even put up a photo of his watch after refereeing a game a couple of seasons ago saying he’d ran 11km.

Footballers from the 70s etc would feel like they were playing against 18 men or so with how much more ground is covered and how much quicker and athletic players are now.

[weecounty hibby]

I dont think I've ever commented before on the debate about who was the greatest nor am I a "fanboy" (a phrase used by folk complaining about the term GOAT🤣) but after watching last night's game I did say he was the greatest player ever. I saw Maradona and have seen both Ronaldo 1, Ronaldo 2 and Messi and in my opinion even taking I to account time frames I just think Messi is the best I've ever seen. Apologies to Pele, Eusebio and Smith as I never saw them but Messi is just unbelievable

[Donegal Hibby]

I dont think I've ever commented before on the debate about who was the greatest nor am I a "fanboy" (a phrase used by folk complaining about the term GOAT🤣) but after watching last night's game I did say he was the greatest player ever. I saw Maradona and have seen both Ronaldo 1, Ronaldo 2 and Messi and in my opinion even taking I to account time frames I just think Messi is the best I've ever seen. Apologies to Pele, Eusebio and Smith as I never saw them but Messi is just unbelievable
Think it's down to who you like to watch as well for me it's Pele just love watching footage of him , most of the time other players try to hack or kick him though he just keeps going nowadays the slightest touch and the guys rolling about like he's been shot , different times I suppose. Hard to go against Messi as well with what he's done and won though I think piers Morgan actually likes his players interviews rather than their football as Andy Murray as made him aware off.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/fifa-world-cup/news/andy-murray-piers-morgan-twitter-war-argentina-beats-mexico-messi-goal-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-reactions/article66189611.ece

[The Modfather]

If France were to win the World Cup, where would it put Mbappe in the conversation about the greats? Two world cups at 23 years old 😱

[cabbageandribs1875]

so

sellick will receive £833,000, Maeda, Carter-Vickers, Mooy and Juranovic
Dundee £165,000, Cummings
Dundee United £336,000 Levitt, Behich
Heartz £534,000 Atkinson, Rowles and Devlin
Sevco £299,000 Barisic
Hibernian £165,000 Irvine
St Johnstone £158,000 Wotherspoon
St Mirren £178,000 Baccus

[Sir David Gray]

If France were to win the World Cup, where would it put Mbappe in the conversation about the greats? Two world cups at 23 years old 😱

He would have to be up there.

He's already 7th top goalscorer for France at 23 and has the second best goals per game ratio out of any French player who's got at least 60 caps (only bettered by Michel Platini).

However Platini only played for the French national team for 11 years and Mbappe has been playing for 5 years and could easily have another 10+ years left in him.

[Sir David Gray]

so

sellick will receive £833,000, Maeda, Carter-Vickers, Mooy and Juranovic
Dundee £165,000, Cummings
Dundee United £336,000 Levitt, Behich
Heartz £534,000 Atkinson, Rowles and Devlin
Sevco £299,000 Barisic
Hibernian £165,000 Irvine
St Johnstone £158,000 Wotherspoon
St Mirren £178,000 Baccus

We'll be due a payment for Boyle as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We'll be due a payment for Boyle as well.


was he not pulled from the squad though, he would have been the more obvious one to get a mention for us if we were due ? great if we do get something

[overdrive]

was he not pulled from the squad though, he would have been the more obvious one to get a mention for us if we were due ?

I think you got money if they were in the training camps directly before.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I think you got money if they were in the training camps directly before.


odd that he doesn't even get a mention though
What Celtic plus Rangers, Hearts and rest of SPFL clubs have made from World Cup as Qatar windfalls laid bare (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/what-celtic-plus-rangers-hearts-and-rest-of-spfl-clubs-have-made-from-world-cup-as-qatar-windfalls-laid-bare/ar-AA15gQdv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5eec8c46124b474189a8ed05fdffba7f)

any extra will be most welcome

[theonlywayisup]

so

sellick will receive £833,000, Maeda, Carter-Vickers, Mooy and Juranovic
Dundee £165,000, Cummings
Dundee United £336,000 Levitt, Behich
Heartz £534,000 Atkinson, Rowles and Devlin
Sevco £299,000 Barisic
Hibernian £165,000 Irvine
St Johnstone £158,000 Wotherspoon
St Mirren £178,000 Baccus

So, Hertz have more World Cup stars that The Rangers and Us :stirrer:

[Sir David Gray]

was he not pulled from the squad though, he would have been the more obvious one to get a mention for us if we were due ? great if we do get something

The payments were due to be paid for any player who was part of a World Cup squad starting two weeks before their team's first match so we'll be due around 12/13 days worth of payments, as will Al-Faisaly.

[CL0762]

It's all opinions in the end, I think Messi is th best player ever, some think others. What i will say about Maradonna's Napoli though, is they were far from rotten. :greengrin

Again, that’s me reading about it as I wasn’t born in the 80s.

It’s all very subjective but the adults who actually get into full blown arguments about it are for the watching.

[Irish_Steve]

so

sellick will receive £833,000, Maeda, Carter-Vickers, Mooy and Juranovic
Dundee £165,000, Cummings
Dundee United £336,000 Levitt, Behich
Heartz £534,000 Atkinson, Rowles and Devlin
Sevco £299,000 Barisic
Hibernian £165,000 Irvine
St Johnstone £158,000 Wotherspoon
St Mirren £178,000 Baccus

How are we due a payment for Irvine, he was barely with us?

[Sir David Gray]

How are we due a payment for Irvine, he was barely with us?

All clubs a player has played for in the two years leading up to the World Cup are entitled to receive a payment.

[Up-the-slope]

this will be an interesting match - can Morocco defend for 90/100 or even ET without conceding?

[bod]

Sounds as though there’s a lot of Moroccans there

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 France

[cabbageandribs1875]

yas


took that brilliantly

[HoboHarry]

Ooh la la.....

[HoboHarry]

this will be an interesting match - can Morocco defend for 90/100 or even ET without conceding?
No.

[Tyler Durden]

Not sure why the keeper didn’t try to get there first and block the shot at close range. Hesitated and stood back

[Aldo]

yas


took that brilliantly

He did. Tbh this is exactly what the game needed. An early French goal. Means the Moroccans won’t be able to sit in

[Keyser Sauzee]

Will that count as an Assist for Mbappe?

[Aldo]

Will that count as an Assist for Mbappe?

Skybet have given it as an Mbappe assist

[Donegal Hibby]

He did. Tbh this is exactly what the game needed. An early French goal. Means the Moroccans won’t be able to sit in
Probably all get altitude sickness they are that high up the pitch now😃

[Keyser Sauzee]

Skybet have given it as an Mbappe assist

Cheers

[Hibbyradge]

See how Morocco changed one of their players only moments before kick off, do they lose a substitute for that?

[I'm_cabbaged]

Skybet have given it as an Mbappe assist

And bet365 haven’t for a shot on target, yet the keeper saved it?
Edit :Watching it again it hit the defender I think

[Tyler Durden]

And bet365 haven’t for a shot on target, yet the keeper saved it?

No - it was blocked by Giroud. Shouldn’t be an assist for Mbappe, would imagine that gets retracted

[Aldo]

And bet365 haven’t for a shot on target, yet the keeper saved it?
Edit :Watching it again it hit the defender I think

Different bookies different rules which is pants.

The Lloris save?? Why is that not classed a shot in target with some. Again Skybet have given that

[theonlywayisup]

Been impressed with Morocco. They play with a freedom that England don't have. That said, they'll probably lose 3-0.

[JammyDoidger]

I had a similar problem with a Boyle assist earlier in the season, crossed it against Motherwell took a deflection and Porteous scored, skybet gave assist and paddy power didn't, cost me £1000.

[Iain G]

His name is Hakimi, he's a black belt in Karate...

Looks a helluva fullback

[Mon Dieu4]

Unlucky, what an effort

[Aldo]

What an effort

[I'm_cabbaged]

What an effort that was

[I'm_cabbaged]

I had a similar problem with a Boyle assist earlier in the season, crossed it against Motherwell took a deflection and Porteous scored, skybet gave assist and paddy power didn't, cost me £1000.

That’s savage, should’ve called them out on Twitter, they’re the type to pay out for the publicity

[hibsbollah]

What a great half.

[SteveHFC]

BBC are pathetic

[Irish_Steve]

ffs, England out and they still manage a “look what you could have won” piece

[JamesHFC]

ffs, England out and they still manage a “look what you could have won” piece

Reminding themselves of another year of failure. No problem 👍

[Mon Dieu4]

Looks like England were just being handed the world cup if they had beaten France

[Onion]

What a great half.

Just a support act for the England post mortem at HT. Should he, shouldn't he is what the world is really interested in.

[Green Reaper]

Root a toot toot you're already oot'
Why are they talking about England at half time in a WC semi final they are not even involved in, BBC are pee

[Sir David Gray]

Absolutely pathetic from the BBC. Half time of a World Cup semi final and instead of reviewing the first half we're talking about a beaten quarter finalist. 🙄

[jeffers]

Was worried they’d show this semi final without a mention of England but they’ve managed to fit in a half time piece on them. Phew. Looking forward to what they’ve got planned for the final. Maybe a rerun of the ‘66 goals.

[Irish_Steve]

Was worried they’d show this semi final without a mention of England but they’ve managed to fit in a half time piece on them. Phew. Looking forward to what they’ve got planned for the final. Maybe a rerun of the ‘66 goals.

What happened in ‘66???