Next Hibs Manager

[Hibs90]

Some supporter you are.

That’s fine.

[Hibs90]

That all it takes? What if we start winning?

Then that’s great but the style of football will be worse than Ross.

[JimBHibees]

Then that’s great but the style of football will be worse than Ross.

You don't know that though

[Mcbizz1998]

Then that’s great but the style of football will be worse than Ross.

Bye then. Go and get a season ticket at the Johan Cruijff arena or something.

[Hibs90]

You don't know that though

Basing what I’ve seen in person of his Aberdeen team and what I’ve seen of Killie then yes I do.

[Hibs90]

Bye then. Go and get a season ticket at the Johan Cruijff arena or something.

Bit of a trek to be fair

[Paulie Walnuts]

In the one season they were up against each other with comparable sides, Ross pissed all over McInness with league and cup results. We hounded Ross out and now after another disaster, we now want Derek. :faf:

I'd take McInness in a hearbeat, but we should have given Ross more time and perhaps we wont be in this mess, as we all know that you are not allowed a bad season anymore or you are out the door.

You could have just rephrased that to “if you remove the times where McInnes was better then Jack Ross is actually better” and saved us all a bit time.

Outstanding, cutting edge insight.

[beensaidbefore]

See Pretty Boys following post. The reason we weren’t in the division to challenge for third was down to gross mismanagement on and off the park. DM oversaw a continued period of success for Aberdeen and rebuilt that team over and over. Also managed through a period of instability off the field in terms of their change of ownership. He ticks a lot of boxes.

Time for Hibs fans to take their head out of the clouds in terms of the “Hibs way” of playing. It’s a myth.

:agree: totally agree

[Edinburgh Green]

McInnes no thanks I'd rather have JR back.

Absolutely no danger I'll be renewing if he's announced.

Hahaha give yourself a shake.

[IberianHibernian]

Why all the talk of DM anyway ? There are lots of other managers out there . Reality is that in modern football manager will probably be for one or two years if successful ( whatever that means ) and less if very successful or a disaster . If DM was appointed he might well get us top 4 or 5 ( if avoiding injuries like this season ) for a year or two but most managers would so what after that . Maybe better to get a manager who will excite support and make watching Hibs attractive ( this year there`s no difference between 4th and 10th except luck so better to watch a good team ) than someone who bores us to 5th .

[blackpoolhibs]

You could have just rephrased that to “if you remove the times where McInnes was better then Jack Ross is actually better” and saved us all a bit time.

Outstanding, cutting edge insight.

When where these times he was better than Ross?

[Paulie Walnuts]

When where these times he was better than Ross?

I’ve listed them all in my previous post. He’s also got a better head to head record between the two.

He’s had a much better career as a manager.

[FilipinoHibs]

Watched McInnes's Kilmarnock they moved the ball quickly forward on the ground even from the back. Only when under pressure did they go long. With our resources he will do well.

[blackpoolhibs]

I’ve listed them all in my previous post. He’s also got a better head to head record between the two.

He’s had a much better career as a manager.

In the one full season they were directly against each other, Ross pissed all over him.

[JimBHibees]

Mcinnes now 1 to 6 to be next manager with Bet victor

[blackpoolhibs]

Mcinnes now 1 to 6 to be next manager with Bet victor

Good, just the type of manager we need.

[Heisenberg]

Mcinnes now 1 to 6 to be next manager with Bet victor

I’m surprised, if there’s something in this, that it’s not leaked to the press at some point today.

[JimBHibees]

I’m surprised, if there’s something in this, that it’s not leaked to the press at some point today.

Agree seems a little odd these markets don't take much to change I think as bookies will be petrified someone is in the know. Of course people involved likely to know. Maybe we have approached Killie or something similar

[Callum_62]

Maybe this is our Alan Kernaghan moment [emoji23]

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[davhibby]

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

Hahahahahaha.

That’s a fantastic joke.

[davhibby]

Really? Is that not a bit melodramatic?

Jack Ross would be much better than McInnes

[degenerated]

Good, just the type of manager we need.He actually would be a solid choice, only concern would be that if folk wanted Ross out for his supposedly boring football then it would only take a few defeats before the boo boys want him out too.

Whoever we get they need to be given time to implement their plan and 2 or 3 transfer windows to build a squad.

[Hibbyradge]

He actually would be a solid choice, only concern would be that if folk wanted Ross out for his supposedly boring football then it would only take a few defeats before the boo boys want him out too.

Whoever we get they need to be given time to implement their plan and 2 or 3 transfer windows to build a squad.

That applies to whomever we appoint.

[Mrimbetween]

McInnes may well do a job

He got a free run when hibs hearts and rangers went missing

***** after the return of the bigger 3 clubs

A no for me

[LaMotta]

All this chat of boring winning football. Biggest oxymoron in history.

[Unseen work]

He actually would be a solid choice, only concern would be that if folk wanted Ross out for his supposedly boring football then it would only take a few defeats before the boo boys want him out too.

Whoever we get they need to be given time to implement their plan and 2 or 3 transfer windows to build a squad.

Think that’s true.

No matter what style we play though people will always pick a flaw. If we play great attacking football and have flair players it’s a matter of time before “boyband” and “powderpuff” are used to describe us and they’ll be screaming for an enforcer.

We’ll sign an enforcer who will be great to begin with before it’s said he’s not good enough on the ball

And so on 😅

[degenerated]

Think that’s true.

No matter what style we play though people will always pick a flaw. If we play great attacking football and have flair players it’s a matter of time before “boyband” and “powderpuff” are used to describe us and they’ll be screaming for an enforcer.

We’ll sign an enforcer who will be great to begin with before it’s said he’s not good enough on the ball

And so on [emoji28]Sounds familiar :greengrin

[sunshinejim]

Mcinnes now 1 to 6 to be next manager with Bet victor

Hope he's appointed. McInnes is the right man at the right time for Hibernian. He'll turn around the squad in no time at all.

[LaMotta]

Think that’s true.

No matter what style we play though people will always pick a flaw. If we play great attacking football and have flair players it’s a matter of time before “boyband” and “powderpuff” are used to describe us and they’ll be screaming for an enforcer.

We’ll sign an enforcer who will be great to begin with before it’s said he’s not good enough on the ball

And so on 😅

:agree::agree::agree:

[Callum_62]

No idea if there's anything in the Mcinnes odds tumbling

We are due an announcement soon though so maybe someone, somewhere has some info and chucked a wad on

I would've expected some kind of leak by now though

As for the merits of Mcinnes, I thought we shouldve got him after we sacked Ross and I think he would do a good job

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[FitbaFolkKen]

You could have just rephrased that to “if you remove the times where McInnes was better then Jack Ross is actually better” and saved us all a bit time.

Outstanding, cutting edge insight.

Mcinnes has managed 637 games with a win rate of 47.10%

Ross has managed 285 games with a win rate of 49.12%

I would suggest that winning competitive football games is the most important "useful measure"? Maybe I just don't understand the cutting edge insight you present.

[Greenio]

Hiberdeen

[sunshinejim]

Hiberdeen

What possessed you?

[Paulie Walnuts]

In the one full season they were directly against each other, Ross pissed all over him.

They didn’t manage any full seasons against each other.

[h185forever]

Are the recruitment team back from down south yet ? ….or did McInnes travel south for interview …or was the jaunt a lot of bollards to make it look like a more rigorous process ?

Either way ..just get it announced ..whoever it is, as potential playing targets are being approached/signed by our rivals.

8 weeks or less to reconstruct the team …..sounds toooooooooo familiar

[tonyrougier123]

If it’s mcinness I’m delighted!
Slight upgrade on Jack Ross for me,and it’s a myth that the football was always boring under Ross.
Every time a player left the replacement was either a downgrade or not replaced at all.it’s been a recurring theme.

Let’s get right behind mcinness if it is him and that is a message for the board also.

Back your man!

[berwickhibee]

First signing, Sam Cosgrove.

No idea just a hunch.

Or Kyle Lafferty😲

[Alex Trager]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8828914/kilmarnock-derek-mcinnes-hibs-frontrunner-bookies-favourite/

Nothing new here

[The Wireless]

The appointment of McInnes would show a desperate lack of imagination from a board who have failed in appointing a manager who is any better than Jack Ross. The failing was not backing him financially and any Hibs manager in any transfer window with a player which was better than we already had. The positive for any incumbent could be the timing of a good batch of youngsters combined with 2 or 3 high profile experienced players to bring them on and re-invigorate a fan base who deserve much better. Whoever gets the gig will get my support however the days of our Ownership kidding us on are gone as we are well versed in underachievement and mediocrity as our circle of failure keeps going around. If the club don’t support the manager then it is not his failure it is the boards no matter how they spin it. It is about time we all get behind our team again and Club make a statement this window and get their finger out.

[Bridge hibs]

Basing what I’ve seen in person of his Aberdeen team and what I’ve seen of Killie then yes I do.To be honest that was my thoughts too on McInnes however reading Pretty Boys post above kind of puts a different perspective on it. McInnes has good experience and knowledge of the Scottish game and where we currently are I dont think he would be too bad a shout to be honest. If anything he will know we have been soft as **** and may add a bit more steel to our team. If its the difference of winning ugly for a while or losing meekly then ugly gets my vote

Dont think it will be him anyway 😁

[Heisenberg]

Can’t be often the bookies odds will go that low on a new manager market and it doesn’t happen but I just don’t see McInnes coming here. Not sure why.

[tonyrougier123]

Can’t be often the bookies odds will go that low on a new manager market and it doesn’t happen but I just don’t see McInnes coming here. Not sure why.

If there’s not much being placed on the market it might not take much to go odds on I think.
But it’s shifted a couple of times suggesting there might be info or strong opinions about him being in the mix.

[Bridge hibs]

First signing, Sam Cosgrove.

No idea just a hunch.

Or Kyle Lafferty😲Oh ffs please no !! McInnes out before he is in and Im handing back that season ticket I havent bought yet !

[Dmas]

If there’s not much being placed on the market it might not take much to go odds on I think.
But it’s shifted a couple of times suggesting there might be info or strong opinions about him being in the mix.

I’m not sure how much to take from the markets, Lee Johnson went from 30s to 8s over night on Bet Victor during the week and there has been next to no media attention on him, Appleton shifted after his Lincoln news hit and mcinnes completely out of nowhere all in the same week of betting it doesn’t give the impression money is being bet with any sort of knowledge

[hibbydog]

He actually would be a solid choice, only concern would be that if folk wanted Ross out for his supposedly boring football then it would only take a few defeats before the boo boys want him out too.

Whoever we get they need to be given time to implement their plan and 2 or 3 transfer windows to build a squad.

This in spades.

Demanding fans and an impatient board at Easter Road.

Very tough gig

[Callum_62]

I’m not sure how much to take from the markets, Lee Johnson went from 30s to 8s over night on Bet Victor during the week and there has been next to no media attention on him, Appleton shifted after his Lincoln news hit and mcinnes completely out of nowhere all in the same week of betting it doesn’t give the impression money is being bet with any sort of knowledgeYep - there defo money to be made on this for anyone with genuine info on it [emoji106]

Hibs seem to be keeping it pretty tight

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[malagahibby]

The boo boys will be out in force today on a Sun rumour.
Getting a manager who knows the SPL,generally can pick a player and has had a team consistently finishing third /forth for almost a decade won’t be good enough.
Most comments will come between 3 and 5 when they are in the house moaning about how bad the team are .

[Pretty Boy]

McInnes may well do a job

He got a free run when hibs hearts and rangers went missing

***** after the return of the bigger 3 clubs

A no for me

If we ignore the 2nd place finish with Hearts and Rangers in the league and the other 2md place finish with Hibs, Hearts and Rangers in the league you are absolutely correct.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mcinnes has managed 637 games with a win rate of 47.10%

Ross has managed 285 games with a win rate of 49.12%

I would suggest that winning competitive football games is the most important "useful measure"? Maybe I just don't understand the cutting edge insight you present.

McInnes managed around 220 games as a manager of teams who were some of the smallest budget wise in their leagues. That accounts for about 35% of his career. At these teams he actually still got one promoted and kept them up (St Johnstone) and saved the other from certain relegation (Bristol City) who were bottom of the whole league when he came in at Christmas.

Jack Ross done the same in terms of being a small fish in a big pond for about 20 games at Alloa in the Championship, less than 10% of his career and he got them relegated. He’s spent about 85% of his career being manager of one of the biggest teams in the leagues he’s in.

Win percentages isn’t all that useful a measure if you don’t take the jobs they were doing into context. Graeme Murty has a 60% win rate. McCoist has 72%. It doesn’t mean they’re better managers.

[Dalianwanda]

I’d be happy with Appleton or Mcinnes…Ive got a feeling it’ll be neither and a complete curveball appointment comes in though.

[Pretty Boy]

I understand that McInnes and his style isn't for everyone but I'm also not sure it was all that similar to Jack Ross. Aberdeen were an aggressive side under him and one of their strengths was having a solid holding midfielder who could play a bit, Graeme Shinnie in particular was a stand out for them. Of course they could strangle a game when they went 1-0 up but would anyone really complain if we done that at Tynecastle? We'd be revelling in it.

Without raking over old arguments I didn't really have a problem with they style of Ross as such. Yes it could be a hard watch and I can't say I enjoyed a lot of games but when we were winning I wasn't really in a position to complain. The biggest issue for me, and I think many others, was these bizarre capitulations he oversaw every so often. 0-3 v Rangers, 1-3 v Hearts, 0-2 v Ross County and 0-3 v Livingston only days apart, 0-3 v Dundee Utd and of course the LC semi final v St Johnstone (we actually started well that night) and the SC final no show. Those were the really damaging results for Ross and many of the performances were as bad as anything we saw under the likes of Butcher.

If McInnes could avoid too many of them then any dissent would remain pretty low level if he had us battling for 3rd or 4th.

[bigwheel]

I understand that McInnes and his style isn't for everyone but I'm also not sure it was all that similar to Jack Ross. Aberdeen were an aggressive side under him and one of their strengths was having a solid holding midfielder who could play a bit, Graeme Shinnie in particular was a stand out for them. Of course they could strangle a game when they went 1-0 up but would anyone really complain if we done that at Tynecastle? We'd be revelling in it.

Without raking over old arguments I didn't really have a problem with they style of Ross as such. Yes it could be a hard watch and I can't say I enjoyed a lot of games but when we were winning I wasn't really in a position to complain. The biggest issue for me, and I think many others, was these bizarre capitulations he oversaw every so often. 0-3 v Rangers, 1-3 v Hearts, 0-2 v Ross County and 0-3 v Livingston only days apart, 0-3 v Dundee Utd and of course the LC semi final v St Johnstone (we actually started well that night) and the SC final no show. Those were the really damaging results for Ross and many of the performances were as bad as anything we saw under the likes of Butcher.

If McInnes could avoid too many of them then any dissent would remain pretty low level if he had us battling for 3rd or 4th.

I reckon if we looks closely at McInnes Aberdeen record there would be every bit as many of those ….he led them to their record number of games without scoring a goal ..teams like Livi regularly went up there and won by two goals ….honestly , I’d say Ross is a better manager .

McInnes did have the plus point of grinding out wins , I’d agree with that ..not great to watch though . Mind you either would have been better than Maloney . So surely we must get better if we appoint him .
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[NC1875]

Ross a better manager than McInnes 🤣

We could only dream of finishing 2nd. Never mind consistently.

Did anyone actually watch Aberdeen week in/week out ?

The way the played against us wasn’t pretty to watch but 9 times out of 10 it was effective. I’m sure they didn’t play that way against every team in the league.

I know one Aberdeen fan and he was absolutely gutted when McInnes left, said it’d be all downhill for them and that’s been the case.

[Mon Dieu4]

Ross a better manager than McInnes 🤣

We could only dream of finishing 2nd. Never mind consistently.

Did anyone actually watch Aberdeen week in/week out ?

The way the played against us wasn’t pretty to watch but 9 times out of 10 it was effective. I’m sure they didn’t play that way against every team in the league.

I know one Aberdeen fan and he was absolutely gutted when McInnes left, said it’d be all downhill for them and that’s been the case.

Let's not rewrite history, he finished 2nd for a reason and any competent manager with his budget should have done exactly that

[Paulie Walnuts]

Let's not rewrite history, he finished 2nd for a reason and any competent manager with his budget should have done exactly that

He finished second when Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were all in the league.

[Mon Dieu4]

He finished second when Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were all in the league.

Rangers were a complete ****ing basket case

[flash]

Let's not rewrite history, he finished 2nd for a reason and any competent manager with his budget should have done exactly that

The reason being the team he managed was the second best in the country?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Let's not rewrite history, he finished 2nd for a reason and any competent manager with his budget should have done exactly that

So if he’s a competent manager with the budget at Hibs, where do you think he’ll get us to in the league?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Rangers were a complete ****ing basket case

He also finished second against just Hearts, Hearts and Rangers and Hearts, Hibs and Rangers. That’s not then including the 2nd place finish when none of us were in the league.

Even if we want to denounce these 2nd place finishes, that at the very worst he still finished in the highest possible realistic position in 5 out of 9 seasons (and imo that’s being ridiculously harsh when he was above Rangers twice in two of they seasons).

If we’re going to suggest Aberdeen finishing second above Rangers on two occasions isn’t an achievement (never mind the other 2 times) then I presume it’s fair to say that we only finished 3rd because Hearts weren’t in the league and Aberdeen were shambolic?

[Mon Dieu4]

The reason being the team he managed was the second best in the country?

Yep, he had them consistent but let's not pretend the fact the Huns were shombolic didn't play a huge part in it

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yep, he had them consistent but let's not pretend the fact the Huns were shombolic didn't play a huge part in it

We finished behind the Huns in 17/18. It was one of the best Hibs sides we’ve had.

Aberdeen also got 73 points that season. That would have been the highest 3rd place points total I think there’s been by a distance.

[Dmas]

I don’t want to see hibs play the way he had aberdeen playing all the times I’ve sat and watched the likes of shinnie run around spoiling and fouling and leaving infuriated I can’t sit through a full season of my team playing like that, not to mention there’s no way hibs players will be afforded the luxury his team enjoyed from referees, all the success he’s enjoyed at aberdeen there where still loads of them wanting shot of him.

He does a job I’m not denying it, if he’s appointed he gets a fair crack of the whip from me but I’m not exactly inspired by the mention of his appointment

[hibee-boys]

I’ll get behind any manager that the club appoints, why any ‘supporter’ wouldn’t is beyond me🤷🏼 Sick of reading ‘I’ll not renew if”, “I’ll hand back my season ticket if”🙈

[SHODAN]

I'd take McInnes.

[the tornadoe]

So if he’s a competent manager with the budget at Hibs, where do you think he’ll get us to in the league?

He had a bigger budget at Aberdeen than he will get at Hibs... if he comes !

[NC1875]

Yep, he had them consistent but let's not pretend the fact the Huns were shombolic didn't play a huge part in it

Even if they hadn’t been shambolic, Aberdeen would have been 3rd no ?

We’ve just celebrated finishing 3rd as a massive achievement, yet finishing 2nd or 3rd consistently isn’t ?

This place is mental

[MrSmith]

Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and if McInnes gets the job, that will kill me off. I’ve seen enough tippy tappy, sideways, backwards & defensively orientated frustrating football in the last few years to last me more than a lifetime. I have never been a glory hunter nor do I want us to spend above our means to become Barcelona, all I ever want to see is a Hibs team show resolve, flair and passion, the four named above do not set up their teams with those attributes.

[bingo70]

He had a bigger budget at Aberdeen than he will get at Hibs... if he comes !

Also did a very good job at St Johnstone with a small budget.

I 100% get the reservations about style of football but there’s no denying he’s clearly a very competent manager.

[JimBHibees]

No idea if there's anything in the Mcinnes odds tumbling

We are due an announcement soon though so maybe someone, somewhere has some info and chucked a wad on

I would've expected some kind of leak by now though

As for the merits of Mcinnes, I thought we shouldve got him after we sacked Ross and I think he would do a good job

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Agree was the clear candidate at that time however the club which is its right wanted to go left field to try and get a more attractive style. What the Maloney experiment clearly shows that winning is much more important than perceived style of play imo? The ideal balance is to have both of course.

[Mon Dieu4]

Even if they hadn’t been shambolic, Aberdeen would have been 3rd no ?

We’ve just celebrated finishing 3rd as a massive achievement, yet finishing 2nd or 3rd consistently isn’t ?

This place is mental

I want to see Hibs play with a bit of entertainment involved, call me mental but give me an entertaining 4th or 5th place over a pedestrian workmanlike 3rd place any day of the week, will I give McInnes a chance? Of course, am I excited or over the moon at the prospect of him being Hibs manager, no

[Libby Hibby]

Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and if McInnes gets the job, that will kill me off. I’ve seen enough tippy tappy, sideways, backwards & defensively orientated frustrating football in the last few years to last me more than a lifetime. I have never been a glory hunter nor do I want us to spend above our means to become Barcelona, all I ever want to see is a Hibs team show resolve, flair and passion, the four named above do not set up their teams with those attributes.

Who would you appoint? Not having a go but genuinely interested who you think we should appoint based on availability and working within our budget.

[MrSmith]

Who would you appoint? Not having a go but genuinely interested who you think we should appoint based on availability and working within our budget.

No idea.

[JimBHibees]

I’ll get behind any manager that the club appoints, why any ‘supporter’ wouldn’t is beyond me🤷🏼 Sick of reading ‘I’ll not renew if”, “I’ll hand back my season ticket if”🙈

Agree very self indulgent attitude support the club and the new guy and see how it goes. Mcinness is very capable speaks well likes to win and has a very good eye for a player and has a bit of passion about him. He would have us competing where we should be.

[Since452]

I want to see Hibs play with a bit of entertainment involved, call me mental but give me an entertaining 4th or 5th place over a pedestrian workmanlike 3rd place any day of the week, will I give McInnes a chance? Of course, am I excited or over the moon at the prospect of him being Hibs manager, no

You're mental.

[Callum_62]

Are we only focusing on Mcinnes last few years at Aberdeen?

They weren't bad at all to watch before his slump

The fact rangers wanted him as there manager just before the start of 2018 shows what a job he done up there

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[bingo70]

Agree was the clear candidate at that time however the club which is its right wanted to go left field to try and get a more attractive style. What the Maloney experiment clearly shows that winning is much more important than perceived style of play imo? The ideal balance is to have both of course.

The problem with only caring about the end result is that it gives no leeway when you inevitably go through a bad spell, which all teams do. There was no sort of bond between the team and supporters as even when winning, I think a lot of people felt it a bit of a chore to watch them. When the wins dry up (which they always do for a period) and you’re pish to watch then there’s no hiding place. If a team is attractive to watch and created a lot of really positive good memories then I think people are likely to be a bit more forgiving. Just look how Mowbreys 4th place finish was remember compared to Ross’s.

Lots of talk about playing attractive passing football but if McInnes made us into a very good route one style and we played our football in the final third with a lot of energy then that’s fine with me.

[bingo70]

You're mental.

He’s really not, he just wants different things from his visit to watch Hibs than you.

There’s nothing wrong with that and there’s no right or wrong answer here, it’s just a personal preference.

[ekhibee]

Don't see any problem with McInnes at all, reckon he'd make us into a hard team to beat, and would keep us in the top 6 too. Not interested in exciting attacking football if the other aspects of the game are ignored, we need a combination of both. I think McInnes could provide that, but that's just my opinion. Don't think he'll come to Hibs though without some kind of assurances, again that's just my opinion.

[Libby Hibby]

No idea.

But you’re done if we appoint McInnes?

[JimBHibees]

Article with latest odds

https://www.bettingodds.com/news/next-hibernian-manager-odds-shaun-maloney-roy-keane-malky-mackay-derek-mcinnes-david-gray-neil-lennon

[MrSmith]

But you’re done if we appoint McInnes?

Possibly.

[Alex Trager]

I am pro DM coming in. In fact, he is who I want and I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get him.

[ekhibee]

Article with latest odds

https://www.bettingodds.com/news/next-hibernian-manager-odds-shaun-maloney-roy-keane-malky-mackay-derek-mcinnes-david-gray-neil-lennon

The article gives McInnes odds as 14/1 but the betting underneath he's 1/6?

[hibee-boys]

Other than short spells when Mcleish and Mowbray were in charge, who were blessed with some quality players, can someone point to when we’ve played this exciting brand of free flowing football? I’ve been going to ER for over 30 years and I’ve yet to consistently see whatever ‘the Hibs way” of playing is?

[CallumHibs07]

McInnes still finished 4th even in his worst seasons at Aberdeen. Bring him in.

[JimBHibees]

The problem with only caring about the end result is that it gives no leeway when you inevitably go through a bad spell, which all teams do. There was no sort of bond between the team and supporters as even when winning, I think a lot of people felt it a bit of a chore to watch them. When the wins dry up (which they always do for a period) and you’re pish to watch then there’s no hiding place. If a team is attractive to watch and created a lot of really positive good memories then I think people are likely to be a bit more forgiving. Just look how Mowbreys 4th place finish was remember compared to Ross’s.

Lots of talk about playing attractive passing football but if McInnes made us into a very good route one style and we played our football in the final third with a lot of energy then that’s fine with me.

Agree the issue with some of games under Ross imo was particularly at home the complete lack of intensity especially in the early parts of the game. Dont think that would be the case under Mcinnes

[Brightside]

So if he’s a competent manager with the budget at Hibs, where do you think he’ll get us to in the league?

Top 4. Exactly where Jack would get us most seasons.

[JimBHibees]

The article gives McInnes odds as 14/1 but the betting underneath he's 1/6?

Yes the article is old the odds are the latest. Apologies couldn't copy from bet victor site.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’ll get behind any manager that the club appoints, why any ‘supporter’ wouldn’t is beyond me🤷🏼 Sick of reading ‘I’ll not renew if”, “I’ll hand back my season ticket if”🙈

Everyone of us will be behind the new manager.

Who’s saying they’ll hand their ST back?

[NC1875]

I am pro DM coming in. In fact, he is who I want and I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get him.

Same here. He was the obvious candidate last time and we wouldn’t be where we are now had we appointed him.

As someone else said. He speaks well, wants to win and has an eye for a a player. Was at Aberdeen a long time and consistency is what we need just now.

[Since452]

Killie will be comfortably top six and pushing for Europe next season with McInnes in charge. He's a good manager.

[leith lynx]

Whoever the next Hibernian manager is, I'm on this rollercoaster ride for life (50+ years and counting) club over custodians! GGTTH

[degenerated]

Even if they hadn’t been shambolic, Aberdeen would have been 3rd no ?

We’ve just celebrated finishing 3rd as a massive achievement, yet finishing 2nd or 3rd consistently isn’t ?

This place is mentalI keep reading that we only finished 3rd because Aberdeen were rank. It's very confusing.

[bingo70]

Agree the issue with some of games under Ross imo was particularly at home the complete lack of intensity especially in the early parts of the game. Dont think that would be the case under Mcinnes

It was how we finished games that bothered me, particularly if we were losing, we just went out with a whimper.

For me, if we are losing going into the last 15 minutes when we’re shouting down the slope, teams should be in for a torrid time defending that lead. If we absolutely batter a team giving it our all but just can’t get that ball over the line then so be it, I’m ok with that. As it was under him though, I could normally be pretty confident leaving or stopping watching in the second half thinking we were beat.

That’s nothing to do with fast free flowing attacking football, it’s just intensity and desire that I felt was really missing from that Hibs team.

[bingo70]

I keep reading that we only finished 3rd because Aberdeen were rank. It's very confusing.

Aberdeen went about 10 games without scoring a goal. Think there’s no question that would have helped us in our quest for finishing 3rd.

[Allant1981]

Think DM would be a good appointment, experienced, knows the game up here, knows how to win games, knows how to see games out so they dont get beat, seemed to pick up decent players. Would be daft not to at least explore the option

[JimBHibees]

It was how we finished games that bothered me, particularly if we were losing, we just went out with a whimper.

For me, if we are losing going into the last 15 minutes when we’re shouting down the slope, teams should be in for a torrid time defending that lead. If we absolutely batter a team giving it our all but just can’t get that ball over the line then so be it, I’m ok with that. As it was under him though, I could normally be pretty confident leaving or stopping watching in the second half thinking we were beat.

That’s nothing to do with fast free flowing attacking football, it’s just intensity and desire that I felt was really missing from that Hibs team.

Agree with that

[Since452]

McInnes always seemed to have a continual rebuilding job at Aberdeen. Hard going losing your best players and having to replace them and still finish top 3 more often than not. Think that will appeal to our owners with our model of selling players on.

[Greenbeard]

I don’t want to see hibs play the way he had aberdeen playing all the times I’ve sat and watched the likes of shinnie run around spoiling and fouling and leaving infuriated I can’t sit through a full season of my team playing like that, not to mention there’s no way hibs players will be afforded the luxury his team enjoyed from referees, all the success he’s enjoyed at aberdeen there where still loads of them wanting shot of him.

He does a job I’m not denying it, if he’s appointed he gets a fair crack of the whip from me but I’m not exactly inspired by the mention of his appointment
Agree, but Shinnie is exactly the sort of player we have been crying out for.

[leith lynx]

Same here. He was the obvious candidate last time and we wouldn’t be where we are now had we appointed him.

As someone else said. He speaks well, wants to win and has an eye for a a player. Was at Aberdeen a long time and consistency is what we need just now.

Tend to agree with this.

[The Spaceman]

Would rip your hand off for Derek McInnes right now.

A proven manager in our league - just look at what has happened to Aberdeen since he left, despite them spending a fortune on new players. We are soft as **** just now and he would sort that. Had a cracking eye for a player too and seemed to be able to win them over fairly easily in any transfer discussions.

Our next managerial appointment is absolutely crucial - we cannot afford to take another big gamble, so DM would be my choice out of all the candidates.

[Greenbeard]

Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and if McInnes gets the job, that will kill me off. I’ve seen enough tippy tappy, sideways, backwards & defensively orientated frustrating football in the last few years to last me more than a lifetime. I have never been a glory hunter nor do I want us to spend above our means to become Barcelona, all I ever want to see is a Hibs team show resolve, flair and passion, the four named above do not set up their teams with those attributes.
Aye. See that Eddie Turnbull and his f...ing Tornadoes. Spoilt it for the last 50 years by raising our expectations so they did.

[DIXIHIBS]

I’ll get behind any manager that the club appoints, why any ‘supporter’ wouldn’t is beyond me🤷🏼 Sick of reading ‘I’ll not renew if”, “I’ll hand back my season ticket if”🙈

Maybe those posters dont or never have had a season ticket. No one i know would dream of handing back a season ticket because we appoint a manager they dont like. We are meant to be hibs supporters, not hibs manager supporters.

[H18 SFR]

Would we not be as well appointing Jack Ross again rather than McInnes?

[Callum_62]

Would we not be as well appointing Jack Ross again rather than McInnes?Why? Are they the same person?

I think Mcinnes has proven himself over a far longer period than Jack Ross

Probably shouldn't have sacked him but we arnt replacing Jack Ross now

I think Mcinnes would be an excellent appointment and could see him being with us for 5 years or more

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[bingo70]

Would we not be as well appointing Jack Ross again rather than McInnes?

No, they’re two entirely different people.

[CapitalGreen]

Yep, he had them consistent but let's not pretend the fact the Huns were shombolic didn't play a huge part in it

Presumably you don’t hold our cup win in high esteem then considering it was against that same shambolic Rangers?

[CapitalGreen]

I want to see Hibs play with a bit of entertainment involved, call me mental but give me an entertaining 4th or 5th place over a pedestrian workmanlike 3rd place any day of the week, will I give McInnes a chance? Of course, am I excited or over the moon at the prospect of him being Hibs manager, no

They scored 74 goals in a league season, scoring 3+ goals on 10 occasions and 6+ on 3 occasions. In what way is that workmanlike?

[CapitalGreen]

Top 4. Exactly where Jack would get us most seasons.

You have no evidence to support that he’d get us there most seasons.

[Heisenberg]

Local Killie journalist doesn’t seem too worried about the rumours.

https://twitter.com/lockyhighet/status/1522862562337042433?s=21&t=vYqn8hyK1awq2ecZbO05NA

[.Sean.]

Would take McInnes all day long, I’m getting sick hearing of the now mythical ‘Hibs Way’ which hasn’t been a thing for about 50 year.

I’d rather be sitting in the house on a Saturday night happy having watched us pick up the win even if it has been scrappy or a battle, than having seen us getting beat playing pretty, tippy tappy stuff. I want to watch a winning team.

The fact so many want to cling on to some notion we are renowned as the Scottish Barcelona or something and this romantic passing machine that is lovely on the eye sums up how soft we are. Give me three points any day of the week.

[04Sauzee]

Local Killie journalist doesn’t seem too worried about the rumours.

https://twitter.com/lockyhighet/status/1522862562337042433?s=21&t=vYqn8hyK1awq2ecZbO05NA
Was just about to post the same.

[WhileTheChief..]

^^I'm not surprised as I doubt we are in for McInnes.

The names being banded about are simply down to journalists not having a clue who we're looking at, so they just use the same names over and over again.

Same with this forum.

We've got zero imagination so we regurgitate ex-Hibs managers names or managers we're familiar with from Scotland and discuss /argue about them until we're blue in the face.

We need Bingo to come up with a few more randoms.

[Weir07]

Aberdeen weren't a great watch anytime I saw them at Easter Road under McInnes. Every game seemed to be an identikit of the last, physical game with a lot of niggly fouls. That said, for some reason I think McInnes might be the right man at the right time for Hibs. Give us a bit of steel anyway. Wonder if Graeme Shinnie would be an option if McInnes was manager.

[superfurryhibby]

Aberdeen weren't a great watch anytime I saw them at Easter Road under McInnes. Every game seemed to be an identikit of the last, physical game with a lot of niggly fouls. That said, for some reason I think McInnes might be the right man at the right time for Hibs. Give us a bit of steel anyway. Wonder if Graeme Shinnie would be an option if McInnes was manager.

The sale/ loss of the following players may just have contributed to that.

Cosgrove
Jack
Wright
Shinnie
McKenna
McLean

[loanheadhibby]

Aberdeen weren't a great watch anytime I saw them at Easter Road under McInnes. Every game seemed to be an identikit of the last, physical game with a lot of niggly fouls. That said, for some reason I think McInnes might be the right man at the right time for Hibs. Give us a bit of steel anyway. Wonder if Graeme Shinnie would be an option if McInnes was manager.

I agree to an extent but I also remember being at Dons games at ER when they were a good bit better than us individually and collectively. Even if they ended up winning by the odd goal, they did have some quality players.

I’m not sure his record with Dons at Tynie was anything to write home about.

[CapitalGreen]

Aberdeen weren't a great watch anytime I saw them at Easter Road under McInnes. Every game seemed to be an identikit of the last, physical game with a lot of niggly fouls. That said, for some reason I think McInnes might be the right man at the right time for Hibs. Give us a bit of steel anyway. Wonder if Graeme Shinnie would be an option if McInnes was manager.

You missed out his team leaving with the 3 points.

McInnes teams have played Hibs 30 times and have only lost 6.

[LaMotta]

Would take McInnes all day long, I’m getting sick hearing of the now mythical ‘Hibs Way’ which hasn’t been a thing for about 50 year.

I’d rather be sitting in the house on a Saturday night happy having watched us pick up the win even if it has been scrappy or a battle, than having seen us getting beat playing pretty, tippy tappy stuff. I want to watch a winning team.

The fact so many want to cling on to some notion we are renowned as the Scottish Barcelona or something and this romantic passing machine that is lovely on the eye sums up how soft we are. Give me three points any day of the week.

This x 100. It's one of the strangest things ever.

People turning their noses up at hard fought one-nil wins in favour of something like a gung ho 3-2 defeat?

Aberdeen under McInnes beat Motherwell 7-2 and Dundee 7-0. Doesn't sound too drab. Looks like it won't be him anyway.

[S4uzee]

Aberdeen weren't a great watch anytime I saw them at Easter Road under McInnes. Every game seemed to be an identikit of the last, physical game with a lot of niggly fouls. That said, for some reason I think McInnes might be the right man at the right time for Hibs. Give us a bit of steel anyway. Wonder if Graeme Shinnie would be an option if McInnes was manager.

They barely lose at ER

[Weir07]

You missed out his team leaving with the 3 points.

McInnes teams have played Hibs 30 times and have only lost 6.

Yep, that's definitely true, seemed like if they went 1 up it was game over. There are some concerns but overall I think McInnes would be a good appointment.

[hibsbollah]

I want to see Hibs play with a bit of entertainment involved, call me mental but give me an entertaining 4th or 5th place over a pedestrian workmanlike 3rd place any day of the week, will I give McInnes a chance? Of course, am I excited or over the moon at the prospect of him being Hibs manager, no

Agree with this and not sure why you’re getting such a hard time. There’s a danger that because Maloneyball didn’t work out we have to go to the furthest extreme possible and appoint a guy who had Aberdeen playing the most negative style I saw at ER for three straight seasons. I hated watching them.

I want Hibs to finish as high up the league as possible but I also want to rock up every fortnight for 4 hours of my precious weekend and actually enjoy what I’m watching.

[bingo70]

This x 100. It's one of the strangest things ever.

People turning their noses up.at hard fought one-nil wins in favour of something like a gung ho 3-2 defeat?

If you’re talking about a game in isolation, everybody would rather win 1-0.

In the bigger picture, playing attacking high intensity football would win us games as well, it’s not one or the other.

Using your scenario though and we scrape together ebough thoroughly turgid 1-0 wins for a decent league finish, we’ve already seen how that impacts the crowd numbers. Playing that way doesn’t put bums on seats so you’d need to prepare for us heading back to sub 10,000 crowds and the obvious impact that’ll have on the atmosphere.

FWIW this isn’t necessarily my view on Derek McInnes. I think if he gets us playing with an energy and intensity he could be a good appointment, even if it won’t be gung ho football.

[LaMotta]

If you’re talking about a game in isolation, everybody would rather win 1-0.

In the bigger picture, playing attacking high intensity football would win us games as well, it’s not one or the other.

Using your scenario though and we scrape together ebough thoroughly turgid 1-0 wins for a decent league finish, we’ve already seen how that impacts the crowd numbers. Playing that way doesn’t put bums on seats so you’d need to prepare for us heading back to sub 10,000 crowds and the obvious impact that’ll have on the atmosphere.

FWIW this isn’t necessarily my view on Derek McInnes. I think if he gets us playing with an energy and intensity he could be a good appointment, even if it won’t be gung ho football.

Yes but losing 3-2 to Livvy or drawing 2-2 with Motherwell and finishing mid table doesn't put bums on seats either. The most important thing to get people going to games is having something to play for at the top end of the table - best way to do that is win as often as possible no matter how its done.

I agree with you on McInnes as well - he had some huge wins as Aberdeen boss.

[LancsHibs]

No, they’re two entirely different people.

True I have seen them together in the same place!

[MWHIBBIES]

Dunno where the idea Ross achieved turgid 1-0 wins comes from. He had one 1-0 home win that entire season.

[Walter]

I just want Hibs to win. We are a sports team...you play sport to win.

McInnes is the most likely to get us winning.

[CapitalGreen]

Dunno where the idea Ross achieved turgid 1-0 wins comes from. He had one 1-0 home win that entire season.

We’re not talking about Ross.

[Scotty Leither]

Would rip your hand off for Derek McInnes right now.

A proven manager in our league - just look at what has happened to Aberdeen since he left, despite them spending a fortune on new players. We are soft as **** just now and he would sort that. Had a cracking eye for a player too and seemed to be able to win them over fairly easily in any transfer discussions.

Our next managerial appointment is absolutely crucial - we cannot afford to take another big gamble, so DM would be my choice out of all the candidates.

Same here...we need a dose of pragmatism at ER just now, and in the short term he would provide that. If the Board back him in signing a decent spine of a team that can win the majority of our home games, the mystical "flair football" could follow later for me.

He seems the obvious choice now the dust has settled on the season and he's set out to do what he had to with Killie. Whether he fancies the challenge (or indeed Kilmarnock are amenable to him going) who knows?

[MWHIBBIES]

We’re not talking about Ross.

It has been said that grinding out 1-0 wins has already proven to turn support away. That's not the case.

[FitbaFolkKen]

McInnes managed around 220 games as a manager of teams who were some of the smallest budget wise in their leagues. That accounts for about 35% of his career. At these teams he actually still got one promoted and kept them up (St Johnstone) and saved the other from certain relegation (Bristol City) who were bottom of the whole league when he came in at Christmas.

Jack Ross done the same in terms of being a small fish in a big pond for about 20 games at Alloa in the Championship, less than 10% of his career and he got them relegated. He’s spent about 85% of his career being manager of one of the biggest teams in the leagues he’s in.

Win percentages isn’t all that useful a measure if you don’t take the jobs they were doing into context. Graeme Murty has a 60% win rate. McCoist has 72%. It doesn’t mean they’re better managers.

Great point about the context of the stats, consider Aberdeens budget relative to Hibs?

21/22 season Aberdeen spend 15 million on wages, Hibs 6 million.

Now tell me they are comparable jobs.


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[04Sauzee]

As much as the Bookies have him favourites and many fans want him I still firmly believe he won't be in the Hibs Dugout next season.

[Since452]

This x 100. It's one of the strangest things ever.

People turning their noses up at hard fought one-nil wins in favour of something like a gung ho 3-2 defeat?

Aberdeen under McInnes beat Motherwell 7-2 and Dundee 7-0. Doesn't sound too drab. Looks like it won't be him anyway.

I will never understand people willing to sacrifice wins for playing the "Hibs way". It's all about winning. Tipy tappy 3-2 defeats and finishing mid table? Nah.

[bingo70]

I just want Hibs to win. We are a sports team...you play sport to win.

McInnes is the most likely to get us winning.

We’re not playing though, we’re watching and you watch sport to be entertained.

[CapitalGreen]

We’re not playing though, we’re watching and you watch sport to be entertained.

I’m entertained by goals and McInnes’s Aberdeen teams scored a lot of goals.

[LaMotta]

I will never understand people willing to sacrifice wins for playing the "Hibs way". It's all about winning. Tipy tappy 3-2 defeats and finishing mid table? Nah.

I think it is mad mate. I'm not really sure the people that say they want fast flowing exciting football etc really know what they mean anyway or what it is they are looking for.

[.Sean.]

Great point about the context of the stats, consider Aberdeens budget relative to Hibs?

21/22 season Aberdeen spend 15 million on wages, Hibs 6 million.

Now tell me they are comparable jobs.


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So Aberdeen spent £288000 a week on wages if their wage budget was 15 million quid per annum. I can’t see that

[Skol]

I didn’t want Mcinnes last time around, but after Maloney I would bite my hand off for Mcinnes. Results are what matter and I think he would have us back challenging for third and also competing in the cups.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Great point about the context of the stats, consider Aberdeens budget relative to Hibs?

21/22 season Aberdeen spend 15 million on wages, Hibs 6 million.

Now tell me they are comparable jobs.


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They don’t though…

[hibsbollah]

I will never understand people willing to sacrifice wins for playing the "Hibs way". It's all about winning. Tipy tappy 3-2 defeats and finishing mid table? Nah.

What is ‘Tippy tappy’ and where did anyone on this thread say ‘tippy tappy’ was what they wanted?

[bingo70]

I will never understand people willing to sacrifice wins for playing the "Hibs way". It's all about winning. Tipy tappy 3-2 defeats and finishing mid table? Nah.

Yes, if you continue to ignore people who have got a different view to you then I can understand why you can’t get your head round it.

I disagree with you but I completely understand why you think what you do.

The concept that people want to enjoy watching Hibs games as well as us winning isn’t that crazy, even if you’ve got different priorities and it’s all and only about winning.

I just look back at that game we beat the 10 man St Johnstone side 1-0 with a soft penalty (I think) and it was utterly dreadful to watch. I don’t know how anybody could have enjoyed that, even if we did win. You obviously don’t care that it was a dreadful watch and that’s fine. Each to their own.

[bingo70]

I’m entertained by goals and McInnes’s Aberdeen teams scored a lot of goals.

Yeah, I’m on board with that.

Feels like I’m arguing with myself a bit here as I’m disagreeing with the general concept it’s all about winning but I’m also not against McInnes. I think we’d okay a much more direct style of football under him but I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing.

[heretoday]

I don't think we can play pretty football and finish third in the league. We don't have the resources to get players who can do that. Best we can hope for is a manager who gets us organised, fit and determined. Like Hearts.

[Aldo]

I don't think we can play pretty football and finish third in the league. We don't have the resources to get players who can do that. Best we can hope for is a manager who gets us organised, fit and determined. Like Hearts.

Not just that but gave a bit of tactical nonce! SJM once said in an interview in the tunnel after the final whistle in 2016 “you don’t win games with just possession” or words similar to this!

I want us organised, strong both physically and mentally, hard to beat and in a position to change things when and if needed!


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[Since452]

Yes, if you continue to ignore people who have got a different view to you then I can understand why you can’t get your head round it.

I disagree with you but I completely understand why you think what you do.

The concept that people want to enjoy watching Hibs games as well as us winning isn’t that crazy, even if you’ve got different priorities and it’s all and only about winning.

I just look back at that game we beat the 10 man St Johnstone side 1-0 with a soft penalty (I think) and it was utterly dreadful to watch. I don’t know how anybody could have enjoyed that, even if we did win. You obviously don’t care that it was a dreadful watch and that’s fine. Each to their own.

I'm not ignoring them or I wouldn't reply. It's a forum so everyone will have different opinions. I wholeheartedly disagree though that being entertained and sacrificing wins in the process is a good thing. If we won every game 1-0 we'd win the league. I genuinely think this mythical "Hibs way" has held the club back. We all take the mick out of Hearts and their industrial style while they relentlessly beat us time and time again. I know which one I'd rather be boasting about. Maloney came in to try and play with attacking flair because the board listened to the fans. It was a disorganised mess when all we needed was a bit of organisation. Hearts will now go and buy a better quality of players for the European groups because they win games while we have fans content with being entertained and finishing mid table.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Not just that but gave a bit of tactical nonce! SJM once said in an interview in the tunnel after the final whistle in 2016 “you don’t win games with just possession” or words similar to this!

I want us organised, strong both physically and mentally, hard to beat and in a position to change things when and if needed!


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Tactical nonce? Rix in the mix?

[Aldo]

Tactical nonce? Rix in the mix?

Ha indeed!


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[B.H.F.C]

Yes, if you continue to ignore people who have got a different view to you then I can understand why you can’t get your head round it.

I disagree with you but I completely understand why you think what you do.

The concept that people want to enjoy watching Hibs games as well as us winning isn’t that crazy, even if you’ve got different priorities and it’s all and only about winning.

I just look back at that game we beat the 10 man St Johnstone side 1-0 with a soft penalty (I think) and it was utterly dreadful to watch. I don’t know how anybody could have enjoyed that, even if we did win. You obviously don’t care that it was a dreadful watch and that’s fine. Each to their own.

I don’t see many, if any, demanding the supposed Hibs way, free flowing, all out attacking, winning football. I think most folk are intelligent enough to realise that won’t happen every week.

I think we need a bit of presence, personality or whatever you want to call it. And whoever it is, I just want them to come in and get a team on the park that plays with a bit of intent. We’ve obviously lacked that for a most of this season. And even finishing third there were loads of games where we didn’t score and didn’t look like scoring. I just want a team on the park where I feel we’ll be a threat and, if whoever comes in can do that, the results will look after themselves IMO.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'm not ignoring them or I wouldn't reply. It's a forum so everyone will have different opinions. I wholeheartedly disagree though that being entertained and sacrificing wins in the process is a good thing. If we won every game 1-0 we'd win the league. I genuinely think this mythical "Hibs way" has held the club back. We all take the mick out of Hearts and their industrial style while they relentlessly beat us time and time again. I know which one I'd rather be boasting about. Maloney came in to try and play with attacking flair because the board listened to the fans. It was a disorganised mess when all we needed was a bit of organisation. Hearts will now go and buy a better quality of players for the European groups because they win games while we have fans content with being entertained and finishing mid table.

We’re not going to win every game 1-0 and win the league though, even if we go for boring and organised. If that was on offer then you’d probably find everyone would be happy with that.

In reality the difference between third and fourth for example is a bit of prize money and what qualifying round you go into for Europe before you inevitably get beat regardless.

This last season is a bit different because of thee Euro spot on offer of course, but at the end of the day it’s still not trophies. Unless the dull 1-0s are building up to some of our best moments supporting Hibs rather than a scudding from a team we’ve hardly heard of then people are going to still want to be entertained.

Also, the most entertaining teams in my life have all finished top 4. Entertaining football is only really possible with a good team so it’s not like people are happy to accept an 8th place finish for good football. If we play good football it’ll be because we’ve got good players and a good manager. If that’s the case the results will still be good.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I want Hibs to win. Sick of us being good for a year, then struggling for the next 3.

I'm sick of losing to hearts but being the better team .

I want consistency and with our budget there's no reason we can't have nice football with a winning team and mentality

More than happy for DM. Should have been appointed in December

[hibsbollah]

Tactical nonce? Rix in the mix?

I’d bring Craig Bellamy in from exile, good experience with Vincent Kompany at Anderlecht u21s, has anger issues, a ‘born winner’ and would send the dot net community into fits, double win :agree:

[LaMotta]

Yes, if you continue to ignore people who have got a different view to you then I can understand why you can’t get your head round it.

I disagree with you but I completely understand why you think what you do.

The concept that people want to enjoy watching Hibs games as well as us winning isn’t that crazy, even if you’ve got different priorities and it’s all and only about winning.

I just look back at that game we beat the 10 man St Johnstone side 1-0 with a soft penalty (I think) and it was utterly dreadful to watch. I don’t know how anybody could have enjoyed that, even if we did win. You obviously don’t care that it was a dreadful watch and that’s fine. Each to their own.

Why pick on that turgid 1 nil win though (which I thouroughly enjoyed btw) and ignore our 3 goal trouncings of Rangers, Dundee Utd or Ross County this season or last seasons 4 goal trouncings of Livvy and Hamilton, or convincing 2 goal wins at Tynecastle or at home to Aberdeen, as well as a 3 goal win v Dons?

[wookie70]

I'm not overly fussed who the manager is but I want the focus to be on the team not the boss. I want a team that wins but more importantly I want one that tries to play fast attacking football. The modern possession game bores me senseless and I'd rather we played a big man wee man up front and shelled it than playing 50 passes before we decide to get into the oppositions half. I want a team that is up there with the fittest in the league and whose first thought is to get the ball up the park with purpose. I don't want a long ball game but I want us to get forward as quickly as is possible. I want a team where the players fit the system and the system is simple and easy for fans to see what is trying to be achieved. I want that system and style to be replicated at all levels below the first team and for it to be communicated and become the Hibs way. I'm realistic enough to know we will have good and bad seasons and performances but over a 4 or 5 year period we should be finishing an average of 5th place at least and not being top 6 should be a rarity. With our budget and facilities it is failure to have a team playing the way it has for 2/3rds of this season with results being poor but performances being terrible. Maloney was a shocking appointment and I'm glad he is gone and I hope we don't recruit anyone that wants to play that style of football.

[hibsbollah]

I'm not overly fussed who the manager is but I want the focus to be on the team not the boss. I want a team that wins but more importantly I want one that tries to play fast attacking football. The modern possession game bores me senseless and I'd rather we played a big man wee man up front and shelled it than playing 50 passes before we decide to get into the oppositions half. I want a team that is up there with the fittest in the league and whose first thought is to get the ball up the park with purpose. I don't want a long ball game but I want us to get forward as quickly as is possible. I want a team where the players fit the system and the system is simple and easy for fans to see what is trying to be achieved. I want that system and style to be replicated at all levels below the first team and for it to be communicated and become the Hibs way. I'm realistic enough to know we will have good and bad seasons and performances but over a 4 or 5 year period we should be finishing an average of 5th place at least and not being top 6 should be a rarity. With our budget and facilities it is failure to have a team playing the way it has for 2/3rds of this season with results being poor but performances being terrible. Maloney was a shocking appointment and I'm glad he is gone and I hope we don't recruit anyone that wants to play that style of football.

I disagree with you about the style of play, i like possession football if it’s done properly more than the style you’ve described, but you’ve articulated your case very well and as long as we do have SOME sort of plan and stick to it through the players we recruit (‘trust the process’ I believe is the sporting buzzword) that’s the main thing. RG has been consistent in saying he must have attacking football, remains to be seen what that means in terms of tactics.

[HibeeSS0762]

Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.

[CapitalGreen]

Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.

For that to be true we’d have had to approach Kilmarnock and it would have made the press.

[blackpoolhibs]

Aye. See that Eddie Turnbull and his f...ing Tornadoes. Spoilt it for the last 50 years by raising our expectations so they did.

I read somewhere that the tornadoes only played something like 15 games together. :greengrin

[GreenCastle]

For that to be true we’d have had to approach Kilmarnock and it would have made the press.

Yup - surely it would have been leaked as Killie wouldn’t be happy.

Unless we find a deal to give Killie some more players!!

As I said before he’s under contract till summer 2023 - but hibs can’t approach him unless they ask permission (have sounded it out) and he would want to come otherwise Hibs look stupid.

Did hibs not say interviews this week??

[bingo70]

Why pick on that turgid 1 nil win though (which I thouroughly enjoyed btw) and ignore our 3 goal trouncings of Rangers, Dundee Utd or Ross County this season or last seasons 4 goal trouncings of Livvy and Hamilton, or convincing 2 goal wins at Tynecastle or at home to Aberdeen, as well as a 3 goal win v Dons?

Just the first one I thought of tk explain my point.

That’s not to say there weren’t games within that period I enjoyed but the vast majority I never. The conversation about Ross has been done to death but I understand why some people liked him, on paper he did a good job. The flip side to that though, all the stats in the world won’t convince me I enjoyed watching his Hibs team, it clearly wasn’t just me either though as our crowds were plummeting, some say that was down to concerns over covid but if that was the case it would have been the same at Tynecastle.

[HibeeSS0762]

For that to be true we’d have had to approach Kilmarnock and it would have made the press.

That was the same thought process I had. I’m only passing on information Iv been given. I hope it’s not true, I read on Twitter I know how unreliable it is but he was interviewed yesterday.

[Jones28]

Great point about the context of the stats, consider Aberdeens budget relative to Hibs?

21/22 season Aberdeen spend 15 million on wages, Hibs 6 million.

Now tell me they are comparable jobs.


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Got a source for that figure? Seems hella high.

[hibsbollah]

That was the same thought process I had. I’m only passing on information Iv been given. I hope it’s not true, I read on Twitter I know how unreliable it is but he was interviewed yesterday.

I’m just hoping if I keep mentioning it, the Craig Bellamy rumours catch on and Edinburgh Live picks up on it.

[Jones28]

Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.

Not shooting the messenger or anything but surely there’d have been something in the press by now?

Thanks for sharing though, it can be a dangerous game.

[HibeeSS0762]

Not shooting the messenger or anything but surely there’d have been something in the press by now?

Off course, I was thinking the same however he is 1/6 on at the bookies now.

[Heisenberg]

Off course, I was thinking the same however he is 1/6 on at the bookies now.

Can’t get a bet on at all now. Both William Hill and BetVictor taken it down.

[Billy Whizz]

Off course, I was thinking the same however he is 1/6 on at the bookies now.

If you read the killie fans forum, DM is on a plane to Florida, Ron is/has been on a plane from Florida to Scotland

[Libby Hibby]

It’s made the press now

[OstKurve Hibs]

I’ll get behind any manager that the club appoints, why any ‘supporter’ wouldn’t is beyond me🤷🏼 Sick of reading ‘I’ll not renew if”, “I’ll hand back my season ticket if”🙈

Grinds my gears aswell, so called supporters threatening to starve the club of money, theres other ways to vent frustrations.
If folk dont wat to go then do go or dont buy a season ticket. Just save the rest of us from having to read your lame excuses on here every single day. Its boring

[Alex Trager]

It’s made the press now

What has mate

[Gordy M]

What has mate

Just the sun saying that Mcinnes is the bookies fav.

[hibsbollah]

What has mate

The Craig Bellamy chat.

[Alex Trager]

The Craig Bellamy chat.

So it has

[GreenCastle]

A verified Killie journalist saying it won’t be DM to Hibs.

Says don’t believe the odds.

[greenpaper55]

The Craig Bellamy chat.
I thought the club is after a manager with experience after the last fiasco ?

[GreenCastle]

Bellamy would be a disaster. Can’t see that happening.

[Dazzjw1875]

[QUOTE=HibeeSS0762;6950949]Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.[/QUOTE

Bit strange if true as he done interview the other day about his big plans for Kille. Suppose we will find out in couple of hrs, but I don't think it will be him.

But I suppose a deal couldve been agreed and when finalised a joint statement could get released.

[Hibees1973]

At last it seems there is now some sense filtering through to those in charge at Hibs, if media reports are correct.

After the turmoil in the last six months we really need an experienced pair of hands and someone who knows the league.

I'm 100% for McInnes getting the job. He had Aberdeen consistently in the top 4 and much as their approach was deemed as dull I just feel this was down to McInnes being there for a while. As with almost every job in football rarely is a manager in charge for more than 3-4 years. After this amount of time stagnation and over familiarity can set in.

My only concerns are how McInnes regards Hibs just know. We have an incompetent Chief Exec and owner and also will he jump ship after so short a time at Kilmarnock. To me he always comes across as a decent and sensible guy. Will he be comfortable deciding to come to Hibs now.

[JimBHibees]

My only concerns are how McInnes regards Hibs just know. We have an incompetent Chief Exec and owner and also will he jump ship after so short a time at Kilmarnock. To me he always comes across as a decent and sensible guy. Will he be comfortable deciding to come to Hibs now.

Do we?

[Since452]

At last it seems there is now some sense filtering through to those in charge at Hibs, if media reports are correct.

After the turmoil in the last six months we really need an experienced pair of hands and someone who knows the league.

I'm 100% for McInnes getting the job. He had Aberdeen consistently in the top 4 and much as their approach was deemed as dull I just feel this was down to McInnes being there for a while. As with almost every job in football rarely is a manager in charge for more than 3-4 years. After this amount of time stagnation and over familiarity can set in.

My only concerns are how McInnes regards Hibs just know. We have an incompetent Chief Exec and owner and also will he jump ship after so short a time at Kilmarnock. To me he always comes across as a decent and sensible guy. Will he be comfortable deciding to come to Hibs now.

Agree with this. I share the same concern but I think if he was offered the job he'd take it.

[silverhibee]

I’m entertained by goals and McInnes’s Aberdeen teams scored a lot of goals.

But can this Hibs team score lots of goals.

[jacomo]

At last it seems there is now some sense filtering through to those in charge at Hibs, if media reports are correct.

After the turmoil in the last six months we really need an experienced pair of hands and someone who knows the league.

I'm 100% for McInnes getting the job. He had Aberdeen consistently in the top 4 and much as their approach was deemed as dull I just feel this was down to McInnes being there for a while. As with almost every job in football rarely is a manager in charge for more than 3-4 years. After this amount of time stagnation and over familiarity can set in.

My only concerns are how McInnes regards Hibs just know. We have an incompetent Chief Exec and owner and also will he jump ship after so short a time at Kilmarnock. To me he always comes across as a decent and sensible guy. Will he be comfortable deciding to come to Hibs now.


He’s a pragmatic manager, in the same vein as Jack Ross.

When push comes to shove, McInnes will always choose caution over adventure.

[Since452]

But can this Hibs team score lots of goals.

No but hopefully after the summer window that will change.

[wookie70]

I disagree with you about the style of play, i like possession football if it’s done properly more than the style you’ve described, but you’ve articulated your case very well and as long as we do have SOME sort of plan and stick to it through the players we recruit (‘trust the process’ I believe is the sporting buzzword) that’s the main thing. RG has been consistent in saying he must have attacking football, remains to be seen what that means in terms of tactics.

I suppose it is the done properly that is critical when talking about possession football. I'm watching the Celtc Hearts game and I dare say Celtc are playing what may be described as possession football but it is fast and they are nearly always looking for a forward pass. They are so much better than most teams they can take some chances at the back. We are unlikely to be in that position for a while if ever so I don't think a purist type of possession football will work at ER and SM was nuts to try and implement it from the get go with the players he had.

I may regret this but Hearts style isn't far off what I want to see us playing. They work hard, get the ball forward early to strikers that can hold it up and run the channels well and use width well getting the ball into the box as often as possible and shooting when the opportunity arises. We should easily be able to play in a similar fashion with any decent manager and a similar level of investment as now. I want purposeful football not pointless passing

[GloryGlory]

[QUOTE=HibeeSS0762;6950949]Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.[/QUOTE

Bit strange if true as he done interview the other day about his big plans for Kille. Suppose we will find out in couple of hrs, but I don't think it will be him.

But I suppose a deal couldve been agreed and when finalised a joint statement could get released.

Seems a bit strange, as well as discourteous to any other candidates, if the Board have decided already, despite the press reporting that second, shortlist interviews were going to be held next week.

[MWHIBBIES]

He’s a pragmatic manager, in the same vein as Jack Ross.

When push comes to shove, McInnes will always choose caution over adventure.

In tough away games sure. Most managers do. At home, when favourites, I don't think him or Ross did that.

[Dmas]

[QUOTE=Dazzjw1875;6951017]

Seems a bit strange, as well as discourteous to any other candidates, if the Board have decided already, despite the press reporting that second, shortlist interviews were going to be held next week.

I think it’s plain to see the press know absolutely nothing about what’s going on, if DMc is at the game today then the board have made their decision no matter what the rags are saying.

[jacomo]

In tough away games sure. Most managers do. At home, when favourites, I don't think him or Ross did that.


Really?

Your propensity for an argument knows no bounds.

The number of draws Ross has had throughout his management career, and the way he invariably set us up to be hard to beat first and foremost, suggest to most that he’s a cautious manager, not prone to risk-taking. McInnes is much the same.

You will have your own opinion though.

[MWHIBBIES]

Really?

Your propensity for an argument knows no bounds.

The number of draws Ross has had throughout his management career, and the way he invariably set us up to be hard to beat first and foremost, suggest to most that he’s a cautious manager, not prone to risk-taking. McInnes is much the same.

You will have your own opinion though.

If you disagree, that's fine. Don't need to make it personal.

Yes. I have my own opinion. Exactly the same as you do. Mine is just slightly different. Try not to get all offended.

[allezsauzee]

I’m entertained by goals and McInnes’s Aberdeen teams scored a lot of goals.


Really? last season only 3 teams scored less than Aberdeen. The season before they scored less than Hibs and we finished 7th. They scored the same number of goals as Hibs over the 2 seasons prior. Despite McInnes having the biggest budget outside the old firm and having some decent footballers, they've been pretty dreadful to watch over the last few years. I have no doubt he would steady the ship but I think it would be pretty brutal viewing.

[FitbaFolkKen]

So Aberdeen spent £288000 a week on wages if their wage budget was 15 million quid per annum. I can’t see that

I thought the same but it was in a couple of ouple.of papers with quotes from Cormack saying he expected to raise the budget this year.


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[GreenCastle]

Iv heard today Derek Mcinnes to be announced tomorrow. Told he’ll be at the game today. Unsure I fully believe it but just passing on.

Any DM spottings??

[FitbaFolkKen]

They don’t though…

What do they spend then? I'm taking that from interviews with Cormack where it was cited that they expected to spend even more this season. I thought it seemed high.

They clearly pay substantially more than us, you can't be saying that the jobs are like for like and ignore the gap in budget.


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[FitbaFolkKen]

Got a source for that figure? Seems hella high.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/aberdeen-increase-wage-bill-as-they-look-to-get-closer-to-celtic-and-rangers-3350439?amp


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[Fergus52]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/aberdeen-increase-wage-bill-as-they-look-to-get-closer-to-celtic-and-rangers-3350439?amp


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That figure will surely be the wage bill for all staff not just players?

Even so that's really big

[Lago]

At last it seems there is now some sense filtering through to those in charge at Hibs, if media reports are correct.

After the turmoil in the last six months we really need an experienced pair of hands and someone who knows the league.

I'm 100% for McInnes getting the job. He had Aberdeen consistently in the top 4 and much as their approach was deemed as dull I just feel this was down to McInnes being there for a while. As with almost every job in football rarely is a manager in charge for more than 3-4 years. After this amount of time stagnation and over familiarity can set in.

My only concerns are how McInnes regards Hibs just know. We have an incompetent Chief Exec and owner and also will he jump ship after so short a time at Kilmarnock. To me he always comes across as a decent and sensible guy. Will he be comfortable deciding to come to Hibs now.
Incompetent CEO and Owner, really? And you know this how?

[Since452]

Any DM spottings??

Doesn't look like it.

[Caversham Green]

That figure will surely be the wage bill for all staff not just players?

Even so that's really big

It's really big, but it's also really wrong. Aberdeen's staff cost for the year to June 2021 was £9.3m. Staff numbers were: Players 43; Football management 23; Scouting and youth development 11; Commercial/administration 49; Maintenance 12.

By comparison Hibs staff costs were £6.6m. Numbers were: Players and management 65; Commercial and administration 27.

I think Aberdeen have a more detailed breakdown because they were a plc for the previous year so have to show more detail in the comparative figures but the bottom line really is that they had 12 more football related staff and 34 more in commercial/administration and maintenance, therefore you would expect their costs to be substantially higher.

[FitbaFolkKen]

It's really big, but it's also really wrong. Aberdeen's staff cost for the year to June 2021 was £9.3m. Staff numbers were: Players 43; Football management 23; Scouting and youth development 11; Commercial/administration 49; Maintenance 12.

By comparison Hibs staff costs were £6.6m. Numbers were: Players and management 65; Commercial and administration 27.

I think Aberdeen have a more detailed breakdown because they were a plc for the previous year so have to show more detail in the comparative figures but the bottom line really is that they had 12 more football related staff and 34 more in commercial/administration and maintenance, therefore you would expect their costs to be substantially higher.

The beauty of the internet is if you post a falsehood you get the correct answer really quickly!


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[Caversham Green]

The beauty of the internet is if you post a falsehood you get the correct answer really quickly!


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Yep, it took me less than a minute to find the Aberdeen figures online from an indisputable source. I find it a bit depressing that a journalist who is paid to report these things didn't manage to do the same.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Yep, it took me less than a minute to find the Aberdeen figures online from an indisputable source. I find it a bit depressing that a journalist who is paid to report these things didn't manage to do the same.

Cheers [emoji106]


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[FitbaFolkKen]

Tell you what whoever takes it has a massive job on their hands.


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[Paul1642]

Tell you what whoever takes it has a massive job on their hands.


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I doubt Klopp could lead this lot to 3rd place

[Lago]

Tell you what whoever takes it has a massive job on their hands.


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Absolutely huge, enormous.

[Gordy M]

Absolutely huge, enormous.

Do you think? Im not sure its any different to any other season. We def need 2 good centre mids for a start but i think it depends on who we have available. Nisbet Mitchell, Macgennis, Doidge all have to come back. You can see in some spells we are not bad. I think some confidence and a few goals added to the team and we will not be far off.

[bigwheel]

Do you think? Im not sure its any different to any other season. We def need 2 good centre mids for a start but i think it depends on who we have available. Nisbet Mitchell, Macgennis, Doidge all have to come back. You can see in some spells we are not bad. I think some confidence and a few goals added to the team and we will not be far off.

Massive. Doidge been told he can go ..will Magennis ever be fit? Likely Doig and Porto sold. We will almost need a full rebuild

[Gordy M]

Massive. Doidge been told he can go ..will Magennis ever be fit? Likely Doig and Porto sold. We will almost need a full rebuild

Ah right, who told Doidge he can go?

My point being we comfortably beat Dundee Utd and Aberdeen before the break, as well as Rangers in the semi.....with these players minus Boyle.

[MKHIBEE]

Just the sun saying that Mcinnes is the bookies fav.
Hopefully the bookies get their fingers burnt

[Real Emerald]

Do you think? Im not sure its any different to any other season. We def need 2 good centre mids for a start but i think it depends on who we have available. Nisbet Mitchell, Macgennis, Doidge all have to come back. You can see in some spells we are not bad. I think some confidence and a few goals added to the team and we will not be far off.

If Doidge is away and Nisbet is out until December we really need 3 strikers. We need to address the non existent midfield and plug gaps if Porto/Doig go. We’re needing around 7 or 8 players especially attack minded players with a bit pace. At the moment we have no idea how to attack and move the ball quickly as a team. To think we’ve sunk to this level and chased a huge % of 13,000 season ticked holders away is an absolute disgrace.

[Gordy M]

If Doidge is away and Nisbet is out until December we really need 3 strikers. We need to address the non existent midfield and plug gaps if Porto/Doig go. We’re needing around 7 or 8 players especially attack minded players with a bit pace. At the moment we have no idea how to attack and move the ball quickly as a team. To think we’ve sunk to this level and chased a huge % of 13,000 season ticked holders away is an absolute disgrace.

Thats my point though, im sure last summer folk were talking about 5 or 6 players coming in. Not saying its not a big job, but i doubt its putting any potential managers off.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Whoever gets the job, I just want to have a bit of excitement and enjoyment whilst watching Hibs again. I'm not demanding Mowbray type entertainment, but this season has been really tough viewing. I would have to say the absence of any joy in going to games is on a par with the Calderwood era.

[Real Emerald]

Thats my point though, im sure last summer folk were talking about 5 or 6 players coming in. Not saying its not a big job, but i doubt its putting any potential managers off.

I don’t think it will put managers off that we need players, it may put managers off the way we scout and recruit players though. To be in a position like today where a just turned 19 year old is the only first team striker we can field is unacceptable for a club the size of Hibs. That’s why any new guy coming in has to be given a budget to sign good players or we’re really going to be back to never ending bottom six finishes and dwindling crowds. Its a real shame after getting to where we were not that long ago.

[Rob]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/aberdeen-increase-wage-bill-as-they-look-to-get-closer-to-celtic-and-rangers-3350439?amp


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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC005364/filing-history

2021 accounts is the 3rd item on the list. Page 25 shows Operating Expenses. Total staff costs £9.356m, so Scotsman article is way off the mark.

[Allant1981]

I don’t think it will put managers off that we need players, it may put managers off the way we scout and recruit players though. To be in a position like today where a just turned 19 year old is the only first team striker we can field is unacceptable for a club the size of Hibs. That’s why any new guy coming in has to be given a budget to sign good players or we’re really going to be back to never ending bottom six finishes and dwindling crowds. Its a real shame after getting to where we were not that long ago.

Scott could have started as he has done the last few games, he just isnt good enough

[Real Emerald]

Scott could have started as he has done the last few games, he just isnt good enough

He’s also on loan and nota Hibs player and is he even a striker? I remember the good old days when I wasn’t fussed about Ollie Shaw, he is head and shoulders above Scott.

[Allant1981]

He’s also on loan and nota Hibs player and is he even a striker? I remember the good old days when I wasn’t fussed about Ollie Shaw, he is head and shoulders above Scott.

Doesnt really matter if he is a loan player though does it, he is a striker who is a first team player so could have started

[Since452]

Could be worse. We could be stuck with a manager like Aberdeen are. At least we have a bit of hope.

[hibsbollah]

The beauty of the internet is if you post a falsehood you get the correct answer really quickly!


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It hasn’t stopped the Craig Bellamy talk from gaining traction I see.

[Real Emerald]

Doesnt really matter if he is a loan player though does it, he is a striker who is a first team player so could have started

You are of course technically correct but it’s like trying to determine the point when a wet fart turns into a jobby. :greengrin

[ekhibee]

I see Appleton is 3/1, just my personal opinion but I don't fancy him, he seemingly walked out of his last interview with Hibs because they wouldn't include a particular clause in his contract. I might be proved wrong though.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Could be worse. We could be stuck with a manager like Aberdeen are. At least we have a bit of hope.

They’re no more stuck with Goodwin than we were with Maloney, if they want to they’ll get rid.

[Callum_62]

I see Appleton is 3/1, just my personal opinion but I don't fancy him, he seemingly walked out of his last interview with Hibs because they wouldn't include a particular clause in his contract. I might be proved wrong though.I very much doubt he walked out of the interview

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[MWHIBBIES]

I see Appleton is 3/1, just my personal opinion but I don't fancy him, he seemingly walked out of his last interview with Hibs because they wouldn't include a particular clause in his contract. I might be proved wrong though.

Don't really see anything wrong with walking out of an interview if you're not happy. You are interviewing the employer as much as they are you. Guy wasn't happy with the offer and didn't waste his time.

[Allant1981]

You are of course technically correct but it’s like trying to determine the point when a wet fart turns into a jobby. :greengrin

True! I actually wouldnt play scott either as i think he is rank but he is still an option, for me id rather see a younger player get a few minutes now

[Alfred E Newman]

Massive. Doidge been told he can go ..will Magennis ever be fit? Likely Doig and Porto sold. We will almost need a full rebuild

What a depressing thought.

[bigwheel]

What a depressing thought.

It is ..when you think how healthy we came in to this season - it’s frankly criminal ….

[Real Emerald]

True! I actually wouldnt play scott either as i think he is rank but he is still an option, for me id rather see a younger player get a few minutes now

Thats the problem, end of season games are sometimes good to see some youngster coming through or giving players who’ve not had a great deal of games a chance. Bringing on a loan player who isn’t going to be here next year and has been abysmal is just not good enough. The problem is we have no one else and as I said earlier is a disgrace for a club the size of Hibs that we’re in this situation.

[bingo70]

It hasn’t stopped the Craig Bellamy talk from gaining traction I see.

Is the Craig Bellamy thing a joke I’m missing? 😂

I’m all over most rumours but can’t see anything on twitter.

[Allant1981]

Was ron gordon there today, certainly looked like him and his laddie sitting in the main stand, if he was then surely we must be close to appointing someone

[leith lynx]

Was ron gordon there today, certainly looked like him and his laddie sitting in the main stand, if he was then surely we must be close to appointing someone

Yes, pictured giving Paul Hanlon his 500th appearance award.

[GloryGlory]

Was ron gordon there today, certainly looked like him and his laddie sitting in the main stand, if he was then surely we must be close to appointing someone

Certainly was.

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1522984101845905410

[04Sauzee]

Was ron gordon there today, certainly looked like him and his laddie sitting in the main stand, if he was then surely we must be close to appointing someone

Did a presentation to Hanlon after the game.
Thought there was supposed to be a board meeting in Monday to whittle down the 10 or so applicants to a final 3 or 4 before final interviews next week?

[Allant1981]

Cheers, fingers crossed something is sorted in the next few days

[Dazzjw1875]

Did a presentation to Hanlon after the game.
Thought there was supposed to be a board meeting in Monday to whittle down the 10 or so applicants to a final 3 or 4 before final interviews next week?

Prob find a meeting was today after game or now, the shortlist will be organised with candidates notifies the morn and Interviews Tuesday wed? But I would assume it'll already be decided and a final interview on Tues and announcement Thursday! Whatever the options we need it decided pronto with new guy watching last 2 games and starting work on new faces incoming. Don't want to wait again and end up getting the dross or loaded with loans.

[GreenCastle]

One of the interview questions should be to analyse the last few Hibs games or the season and explain what improvements you would make.

I definitely think we will find out by end of next week or next Sunday after game at latest.

[truehibernian]

One of the interview questions should be to analyse the last few Hibs games or the season and explain what improvements you would make.

I definitely think we will find out by end of next week or next Sunday after game at latest.

New midfield, having four strikers every season - when do I start ? 😃

[GreenCastle]

New midfield, having four strikers every season - when do I start ? 😃

Can just imagine the person getting asked..

How long you got..

Or the current squad has potential just needs a few tweaks (what the board want to hear but what fans know isn’t true)

[JamesHFC]

Just had a look on the Killie fans forum, it was a great laugh.

“Fake news.

Hibs are a car crash club that chew up and spit out managers every 18months. They are not as big as they think they are and are under the impression that they deserve to be winning trophies.

If he went there then there is a very good chance that he'd be out on his ear within 2 seasons and his stock would have dropped. If he stays at RP an gets us 7th or above then it will have been a successful season and he will be mentioned for jobs down south due to winning promotion and having a good first season up.”

🤣🤣

[IberianHibernian]

Could be worse. We could be stuck with a manager like Aberdeen are. At least we have a bit of hope.If Goodwin hadn`t left St Mirren he`d have been one of the favourites to join us .

[Billy Whizz]

If Goodwin hadn`t left St Mirren he`d have been one of the favourites to join us .

Got the tram home with a couple of Aberdeen fans. They don’t think JG is the answer, and they wish their board didn’t bow to fan pressure to get McInnes out!
And the don’t like Cormack one little bit

[Musselbound]

Just had a look on the Killie fans forum, it was a great laugh.

“Fake news.

Hibs are a car crash club that chew up and spit out managers every 18months. They are not as big as they think they are and are under the impression that they deserve to be winning trophies.

If he went there then there is a very good chance that he'd be out on his ear within 2 seasons and his stock would have dropped. If he stays at RP an gets us 7th or above then it will have been a successful season and he will be mentioned for jobs down south due to winning promotion and having a good first season up.”

🤣🤣

The bits about managers being out every 18 months to 2 years are true. It's sometimes been less than that.

[bingo70]

The bits about managers being out every 18 months to 2 years are true. It's sometimes been less than that.

Probably not far off the truth for most clubs now though

[Heisenberg]

Just had a look on the Killie fans forum, it was a great laugh.

“Fake news.

Hibs are a car crash club that chew up and spit out managers every 18months. They are not as big as they think they are and are under the impression that they deserve to be winning trophies.

If he went there then there is a very good chance that he'd be out on his ear within 2 seasons and his stock would have dropped. If he stays at RP an gets us 7th or above then it will have been a successful season and he will be mentioned for jobs down south due to winning promotion and having a good first season up.”

🤣🤣

One thing is for sure though, we are and always will be a much bigger club than Kilmarnock. They’ve been a shambles since Clarke left.

[badabing67]

As it says on the tin

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8828914/kilmarnock-derek-mcinnes-hibs-frontrunner-bookies-favourite/

I have seen his Aberdeen teams at ER on numerous occasions and they were dire to watch. If he gets the job I doubt I will renew my ST. I cannot believe we would get rid of Jack Ross to replace him with Derek McInnes. I would prefer Jack Ross back than him. At least Jack tried to play football. Derek McInnes just tries tom stop football. Its a no thanks from me. How would you guys feel about this appointment if it comes to fruition.

[Cat Stanton]

As it says on the tin

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8828914/kilmarnock-derek-mcinnes-hibs-frontrunner-bookies-favourite/

I have seen his Aberdeen teams at ER on numerous occasions and they were dire to watch. If he gets the job I doubt I will renew my ST. I cannot believe we would get rid of Jack Ross to replace him with Derek McInnes. I would prefer Jack Ross back than him. At least Jack tried to play football. Derek McInnes just tries tom stop football. Its a no thanks from me. How would you guys feel about this appointment if it comes to fruition.

There's a whole other thread about this, with the arguments being made and countered.

[Jones28]

Just had a look on the Killie fans forum, it was a great laugh.

“Fake news.

Hibs are a car crash club that chew up and spit out managers every 18months. They are not as big as they think they are and are under the impression that they deserve to be winning trophies.

If he went there then there is a very good chance that he'd be out on his ear within 2 seasons and his stock would have dropped. If he stays at RP an gets us 7th or above then it will have been a successful season and he will be mentioned for jobs down south due to winning promotion and having a good first season up.”

🤣🤣

They can talk about big clubs when they stop giving the old firm both ends of their stadiums. The St Johnston of the south.

[LunasBoots]

As it says on the tin

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8828914/kilmarnock-derek-mcinnes-hibs-frontrunner-bookies-favourite/

I have seen his Aberdeen teams at ER on numerous occasions and they were dire to watch. If he gets the job I doubt I will renew my ST. I cannot believe we would get rid of Jack Ross to replace him with Derek McInnes. I would prefer Jack Ross back than him. At least Jack tried to play football. Derek McInnes just tries tom stop football. Its a no thanks from me. How would you guys feel about this appointment if it comes to fruition.

My opinion is we've interviewed alot apparently but something must be seriously wrong if the best we can come up with is Mcinnes, I'm guessing a few have been put off on the recruitment policy front....At least we will be hard to beat but it will not be pretty football.

[MWHIBBIES]

Just had a look on the Killie fans forum, it was a great laugh.

“Fake news.

Hibs are a car crash club that chew up and spit out managers every 18months. They are not as big as they think they are and are under the impression that they deserve to be winning trophies.

If he went there then there is a very good chance that he'd be out on his ear within 2 seasons and his stock would have dropped. If he stays at RP an gets us 7th or above then it will have been a successful season and he will be mentioned for jobs down south due to winning promotion and having a good first season up.”

🤣🤣

Literally a club that gave 3 stands so rangers could have a title party. Utterly tin pot.

[mcfly]

Whoever gets the job has a massive rebuild.

Is mciness any better than jack Ross? Prob not and prob v similar.

I don’t remember Aberdeen playing great stuff at Easter road.

Will he bring the fans back? Not overly excited

[Mcbizz1998]

I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

[Since452]

Literally a club that gave 3 stands so rangers could have a title party. Utterly tin pot.

Their pies are more famous than their football club.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

There’s lots of other things I’ll be able to fill my time with should Mackay get the job and I’ll get way more enjoyment out them than I would going along to support that piece of ****.