Next Hibs Manager

[Spike Mandela]

Watched open goal with Derek Mcinnes. Came across very well. Particularly in addressing criticism about his style.

https://youtu.be/DLB-W7fMLt4

22:10 into it for anyone wanting to listen.

Comes across a good man manager with the players

8 years in a row he had Aberdeen no worse than 4th but mostly 2nd and 3rds. That's a lot of prize money and a lot of European games. To me he was a no brainer if available and willing.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I'm now of the opinion we should fling money at McInnes. It just seems a no brainer.

Aye yer right...nae brains😉

[Mrimbetween]

McInnes done well at Saints, but so have many others with provincial clubs and done little after

Did he not have a few seasons without Hibs Hearts and Rangers out the way for a bit and then things went tits up when the bigger 3 popped back ??

He does know the SPL back to front but not that sure about him

[leith lynx]

I see Salford City have sacked their manager.

Was a lot of talk of Appleton going there for a bit so I wonder if that’s why all the talk of him has gone cold very quickly?

Think he is still under consideration, it's 3 not 2 candidates.

[Alex Trager]

Think he is still under consideration, it's 3 not 2 candidates.

Where have you read that about?

[Callum_62]

Suspect we will be end of the week now

Thursday or Friday given the euro games will be hogging the press

The longer it goes the less likley it will be Lee Johnson I think

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[Alan62]

8 years in a row he had Aberdeen no worse than 4th but mostly 2nd and 3rds. That's a lot of prize money and a lot of European games. To me he was a no brainer if available and willing.

McInnes oversaw some of the most eye-bleedingly boring football ever witnessed from an Aberdeen team. His tactics against us seemed to consist of rotational fouling and brutal hoofing of anything that moved. For me, football isn't just about accumulating points and grinding out wins. There has to be more to it than that. While I'm willing to accept the odd grind, I wouldn't be volunteering for 8 years of winning ugly.

[WhileTheChief..]

What’s any of this got to do with the search for a new manager??!

[AugustaHibs]

If it takes this long and we end up with lee Johnson…

[JohnM1875]

If it takes this long and we end up with lee Johnson…

Be so weird considering we've apparently had everything agreed with him for about a week or so now. Surely means we're trying to get JDT over the line 🤞

[Unseen work]

Unless the plan is announcing Johnson tomorrow so the news quickly changes to Rangers….

I’m thinking (hoping) we’ve agreed terms with JDT and now it’s just getting in his assistant etc

[Greencore]

Wonder what LJ is thinking agreed terms. And from the grape vine we are I negations with Danish guy..... better be careful lj doesn't walk away ...

[leith lynx]

Where have you read that about?

Not read, just told from a reliable source.

[SlickShoes]

Wonder what LJ is thinking agreed terms. And from the grape vine we are I negations with Danish guy..... better be careful lj doesn't walk away ...

When you apply for any job you know there are other candidates, unless Hibs have said to him a date when he will know then not bothered telling him, I don't think he's going to just walk away in a huff because we are considering other people.

[Gordy M]

I dont think its either LJ or JDT, ive a funny feeling someone else is going to get it. We have apparently agreed terms with LJ and no announcement has come, and there hasnt been anything aboit JDT in the press since last week. Very quiet if he was going to get it. I think there is someone else. Just imo.

[heretoday]

McInnes oversaw some of the most eye-bleedingly boring football ever witnessed from an Aberdeen team. His tactics against us seemed to consist of rotational fouling and brutal hoofing of anything that moved. For me, football isn't just about accumulating points and grinding out wins. There has to be more to it than that. While I'm willing to accept the odd grind, I wouldn't be volunteering for 8 years of winning ugly.

We need to win cups. It's pathetic watching Hibs go every year winning nothing. We can't live on the Scottish Cup win forever.
McInnes is the sort who might win cups.

[SteveHFC]

Whens the Sunderland play off

[nonshinyfinish]

We need to win cups. It's pathetic watching Hibs go every year winning nothing. We can't live on the Scottish Cup win forever.
McInnes is the sort who might win cups.

I’d say winning cups was the weakest part of his record at Aberdeen.

[HH81]

Whens the Sunderland play off

Saturday.

[S4uzee]

Maybe a Monday appointment should they do the unthinkable on Saturday

[leith lynx]

I dont think its either LJ or JDT, ive a funny feeling someone else is going to get it. We have apparently agreed terms with LJ and no announcement has come, and there hasnt been anything aboit JDT in the press since last week. Very quiet if he was going to get it. I think there is someone else. Just imo.

There is someone else, that doesn't mean he will get the job though! Would imagine number 3 is MA, not 100% sure. Ron needs to get lucky with his choice!

[Spike Mandela]

McInnes oversaw some of the most eye-bleedingly boring football ever witnessed from an Aberdeen team. His tactics against us seemed to consist of rotational fouling and brutal hoofing of anything that moved. For me, football isn't just about accumulating points and grinding out wins. There has to be more to it than that. While I'm willing to accept the odd grind, I wouldn't be volunteering for 8 years of winning ugly.

8 seasons no worse than 4th. 8 years!!!!!!! I would kill for Hibs to have consistency of performance like that. It wasn’t 8 years of boring football.

[Alan62]

8 seasons no worse than 4th. 8 years!!!!!!! I would kill for Hibs to have consistency of performance like that. It wasn’t 8 years of boring football.

It always looked pretty horrible to me.


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[Col2]

8 seasons no worse than 4th. 8 years!!!!!!! I would kill for Hibs to have consistency of performance like that. It wasn’t 8 years of boring football.

I think at least 5 of these were without Rangers and also included ***** Hearts team.

[ian cruise]

It always looked pretty horrible to me.


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I've family and a lot of friends in Aberdeen. They enjoyed the fact they were up the top end of the league after being rotten for so long but never did the ones I know think they played football that was enjoyable to watch, bar the occasional game.

[PPZPOL]

I think at least 5 of these were without Rangers and also included ***** Hearts team.

So he finished above all the teams that we can’t at the moment. That’s progress for us.

[TheGog]

I think we all need to calm down a little on the speed we appoint a new manager. Ron said this will be a long thought out process, end of May to mid June was his target.

I can see us waiting this out until most leagues come to a close and see if there is any movement with other clubs letting managers go etc.

I want JDT make no doubt about that, but June is when my guess will be

[Since452]

McInnes had to continually replace his best players season to season. Did a phenomenal job at Aberdeen regardless who was in the league. Losing cup finals to Brendan Rodgers Celtic isn't really bad. Look at them before and after his tenure.

[Billy Whizz]

McInnes had to continually replace his best players season to season. Did a phenomenal job at Aberdeen regardless who was in the league. Look at them before and after his tenure.

They went downhill when Cormack took over, and going even further down again

[Heisenberg]

I think we all need to calm down a little on the speed we appoint a new manager. Ron said this will be a long thought out process, end of May to mid June was his target.

I can see us waiting this out until most leagues come to a close and see if there is any movement with other clubs letting managers go etc.

I want JDT make no doubt about that, but June is when my guess will be

No chance it’ll be that late imo. The manager needs to come in and make decisions on players ASAP.

[IberianHibernian]

McInnes had to continually replace his best players season to season. Did a phenomenal job at Aberdeen regardless who was in the league. Losing cup finals to Brendan Rodgers Celtic isn't really bad. Look at them before and after his tenure.Every team had to replace good players . They had a few cup defeats against lower league teams ( including us ) .

[TheGog]

No chance it’ll be that late imo. The manager needs to come in and make decisions on players ASAP.

Don’t think that needs to happen ASAP, we have a recruitment team at it already hence the Marshall signing. Any manager looking at Hibs right now already has an idea of what players he wants to bring in.

I’m going for the 3rd of June👀 still plenty time before preseason

[04Sauzee]

Don’t think that needs to happen ASAP, we have a recruitment team at it already hence the Marshall signing. Any manager looking at Hibs right now already has an idea of what players he wants to bring in.

I’m going for the 3rd of June👀 still plenty time before preseason

I'm sure the Marshall signing is dependent on our new manager giving it the OK. No danger will we not have a manager in place by the the end of May begin ignore June. IMO off course 🙂

[wookie70]

8 seasons no worse than 4th. 8 years!!!!!!! I would kill for Hibs to have consistency of performance like that. It wasn’t 8 years of boring football.

Aberdeen under McInnes averaged 1.49 goals a game in the league. We averaged 1.59 goals in the season and a bit Lennon managed us in the top league. A Lennon Team would on average score 3.8 more goals a season going by that. McInnes was pragmatic for some of his time but not all of it and he had the ability to urinate with the appendages that he had at his disposal rather than only being good when he had a good squad. I just want a Hibs team to look like they know what they are trying to achieve and it has been a while since I saw that.

[Hibs90]

I dont think its either LJ or JDT, ive a funny feeling someone else is going to get it. We have apparently agreed terms with LJ and no announcement has come, and there hasnt been anything aboit JDT in the press since last week. Very quiet if he was going to get it. I think there is someone else. Just imo.

There was stuff in EEN about JDT this week.

[Leitherhibs]

There will be an announcement this week, one way or the other.

[LeithMike]

I’d say winning cups was the weakest part of his record at Aberdeen.You could also say that about Turnbull's Tornadoes in the 70s. Very little return in trophies but that was because they were competing with Jock Stein's Celtic whixh was a truly great side.

Brendan Rodger's Celtic side were miles ahead of any team so its not surprising Aberdeen didn't manage to win much silverware. They did push Celtic hard for a couple of years which is no mean feat given the gulf between the budgets.

As someone else remarked - this is probably as close to a no brainer as you can get. If Hibs are overlooking him or he wouldn't take it because of the set up at Hibs then it suggests something is not quite right behind the scenes and we are not looking for a strong personality who knows what he is doing.

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[Tambo]

There will be an announcement this week, one way or the other.

Would guess so going with reports we will see an announcement this week.

Honestly thought it would of been Monday but I'm happy to wait a few more days, Friday we think?

[Alfred E Newman]

There will be an announcement this week, one way or the other.

I am gradually losing interest. Maybe one day I’ll log in here and actually get some news.
Even on the PM board it’s behind the Wordle thread and the Leith Restaurant recommendations!

[Greenworld]

Would guess so going with reports we will see an announcement this week.

Honestly thought it would of been Monday but I'm happy to wait a few more days, Friday we think?With Rangers being the headline news I think Friday might be right

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[sleeping giant]

With Rangers being the headline news I think Friday might be right

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I dont see why they would wait.
As soon as its done , it will be announced no matter what is in the news.

[JGS56]

Ron Gordon going back to the states on Saturday - would assume he would want the appointment announced before then. So Friday will probably be the day.

[Unseen work]

I’d like to think the club have a bit more about them and we would announce our manager when we want and don’t care about what rangers having coming up.

Maybe announcing JDT tomorrow with the infamous interview would put the fear into them again ahead of the final 😅

[Unseen work]

Ron Gordon going back to the states on Saturday - would assume he would want the appointment announced before then. So Friday will probably be the day.

You’d imagine it’s all decided and wrapped up then if he’s already decided when he’s going back

[HibeeSince85]

I dont see why they would wait.
As soon as its done , it will be announced no matter what is in the news.

Id assume it is because all the hacks will be in Seville and RG will want to hold a media event before heading back to the states.

I think it could very well be Friday.

[jacomo]

Aberdeen under McInnes averaged 1.49 goals a game in the league. We averaged 1.59 goals in the season and a bit Lennon managed us in the top league. A Lennon Team would on average score 3.8 more goals a season going by that. McInnes was pragmatic for some of his time but not all of it and he had the ability to urinate with the appendages that he had at his disposal rather than only being good when he had a good squad. I just want a Hibs team to look like they know what they are trying to achieve and it has been a while since I saw that.


That’s fair. McInnes is certainly competent.

[Smartie]

I really liked McInnes during that interview, he comes across very well.

Presumably he'd have been interested in becoming Hibs manager when we appointed Maloney? It just seems weird that we'd have gone for Maloney over McInnes, who certainly seems to have a bit of charisma about him.

Re the standard of football - I'd expect him to try to stop a decent Hibs side from playing football when he was Aberdeen manager and I'd have no problem if he took a physical approach to Hibs playing the OF, Aberdeen or Hearts. I'd expect an attacking approach against the other sides but he tended to have decent attacking players to choose from at Aberdeen to play that way when required. He seems to "get" the importance of winning games to me and ultimately that is what every manager is paid to do. When they're winning people are nearly always happy. If they're playing well but losing they might buy themselves a bit of time to find a winning formula. It's when they're playing crap football and losing that trouble starts, as it did for him towards the end at Aberdeen.

[SMAXXA]

I’m going for an a announcement tomorrow

[bingo70]

I’m going for an a announcement tomorrow

Educated guess or something you’ve heard?

[SteveHFC]

I’m going for an a announcement tomorrow

:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

[Bridge hibs]

Educated guess or something you’ve heard?He rubbed his crystal balls

[JohnM1875]

I am gradually losing interest. Maybe one day I’ll log in here and actually get some news.
Even on the PM board it’s behind the Wordle thread and the Leith Restaurant recommendations!

Same. Was so against Johnson and I really don't mind either way now. Just want it announced and the manager in place. Been pretty much a month now.

[Lago]

Same. Was so against Johnson and I really don't mind either way now. Just want it announced and the manager in place. Been pretty much a month now.
This, let's get on with the big re work required at Hibs.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/transfernorden/status/1526651636046778370?s=21&t=G1m9MypmQO8uALNgArWOwQ

AGF linked with JDT.

C’mon Hibs!!

[ancient hibee]

I think it'll be McInnes and that Hibs and Killie are negotiating and keeping a lid on the news.

[heretoday]

McInnes is the man! I hope.

[04Sauzee]

Graham Hunter very tongue in cheek answering a question regarding JDT being the next Hibs manager after his podcast interview


He DID seem to be whistling something about ‘…while I’m worth, my room on this earth…’ abs he’s got an Alex Cropley tattoo. But no FIRM clue, no

[SteveHFC]

https://twitter.com/transfernorden/status/1526651636046778370?s=21&t=G1m9MypmQO8uALNgArWOwQ

AGF linked with JDT.

C’mon Hibs!!


AGF has contacted Danish Jon Dahl Tomasson, who became Swedish champions with Malmö FF in both 2020 and 2021. Several sources mention that the economy and Jon Dahl's desire to take the job may end up straining legs for AGF. Jon Dahl was linked with the job in Herenveen in February, but it ended up being nothing.

[Unseen work]

Graham Hunter very tongue in cheek answering a question regarding JDT being the next Hibs manager after his podcast interview


He DID seem to be whistling something about ‘…while I’m worth, my room on this earth…’ abs he’s got an Alex Cropley tattoo. But no FIRM clue, no

He also said this in reply to someone saying to put a good word in

“I like words. But no one had a word THAT powerful - it’s actually time for @SteveArchibald8 at @HibernianFC”

[IberianHibernian]

I think it'll be McInnes and that Hibs and Killie are negotiating and keeping a lid on the news.I hope you`re wrong but wouldn`t be surprised as RG etc may have realised it isn`t so easy to guarantee an appointment that guarantees some stability at least and hopefully much more . If it is DM Killie will have a good bit of compensation to use , maybe to attract one of the names mentioned as being of interest to us .

[JohnM1875]

AGF has contacted Danish Jon Dahl Tomasson, who became Swedish champions with Malmö FF in both 2020 and 2021. Several sources mention that the economy and Jon Dahl's desire to take the job may end up straining legs for AGF. Jon Dahl was linked with the job in Herenveen in February, but it ended up being nothing.

JDT agent playing a blinder here leaking that AGF are interested to speed Hibs up 😉.

Out of interest where has the McInnes chat resurfaced from? Just because he was on Open Goal and folk liked it? Or is there more to it than that?

[JamesHFC]

Lj ⏳

[JimBHibees]

JDT agent playing a blinder here leaking that AGF are interested to speed Hibs up 😉.

Out of interest where has the McInnes chat resurfaced from? Just because he was on Open Goal and folk liked it? Or is there more to it than that?

Or announcing interest in Hibs to speed other teams up

[JohnM1875]

Or announcing interest in Hibs to speed other teams up

I prefer mine.

[Heisenberg]

Lj ⏳

I reckon it’s going to be him.

[Callum_62]

Lj [emoji352]I think he is/was the favorite but as the days tick by it seems less likley for me

Or we've already agreed it and just waiting to announce

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[Unseen work]

Lj ⏳

Think it was you that’s said him all along and thought he would be here on Sunday.

You heard it’s not confirmed?

[04Sauzee]

I wouldn't be concerned if it was LJ I'd just like some news over the next few days so we know who the coaching staff are, what's happening with SDG.

Anybody know who his signings were at Sunderland? Not that I'd expect him to raid Sunderland just wondering what kind of player he signed, I'm sure he signed Ross Stewart?

[Smartie]

I wouldn't be concerned if it was LJ I'd just like some news over the next few days so we know who the coaching staff are, what's happening with SDG.

Anybody know who his signings were at Sunderland? Not that I'd expect him to raid Sunderland just wondering what kind of player he signed, I'm sure he signed Ross Stewart?

I'm not sure how involved he'd have been in their signings, they have a director of football (Kristian Speakman) who deals with that side of things.

TBF they brought some pretty good players in last summer. Stewart has been excellent and Pritchard is a brilliant player for them at that level. They've had a few decent loan signings, Broadhead from Everton has been good when fit but injured a lot.

Their January window was a bit odd, and he was punted towards the end of the window as some strange business was being done (losing an experienced centre back to raise funds to sign Defoe, who retired soon after.)

[04Sauzee]

I'm not sure how involved he'd have been in their signings, they have a director of football (Kristian Speakman) who deals with that side of things.

TBF they brought some pretty good players in last summer. Stewart has been excellent and Pritchard is a brilliant player for them at that level. They've had a few decent loan signings, Broadhead from Everton has been good when fit but injured a lot.

Their January window was a bit odd, and he was punted towards the end of the window as some strange business was being done (losing an experienced centre back to raise funds to sign Defoe, who retired soon after.)
Pritchard did look decent against Wednesday tbh

[Unseen work]

I wouldn't be concerned if it was LJ I'd just like some news over the next few days so we know who the coaching staff are, what's happening with SDG.

Anybody know who his signings were at Sunderland? Not that I'd expect him to raid Sunderland just wondering what kind of player he signed, I'm sure he signed Ross Stewart?

Yeah you’re right re Stewart.

Also signed Jordon Jones on loan from rangers and Sam Vokins who is currently on loan at Ross county. He actually impressed me earlier in the season.

Would be more than happy if he brought those 2 with him as I think we lack a winger and will need a replacement for Doig

[007]

Tam McManus said yesterday that the club were pulling out all the stops to try and get JDT. Might explain why there hasn't been anyone announced yet if we're in discussions with him.

[Unseen work]

Tam McManus said yesterday that the club were pulling out all the stops to try and get JDT. Might explain why there hasn't been anyone announced yet if we're in discussions with him.

Where did you see this? I must have missed it.

[JohnM1875]

Tam McManus said yesterday that the club were pulling out all the stops to try and get JDT. Might explain why there hasn't been anyone announced yet if we're in discussions with him.

If true that's good from the board at least. But if he's taking all this convincing **** him! I'm fickle and can easily become a Johnson in man 😂

[CL0762]

I’m just fed up now that I’m no actually arsed who gets the job.

[DstN75]

The problem with appointing someone like Johnson is that you risk the Heckingbottom effect which is having someone who, while clearly talented, just cannot understand the demands of the Scottish Premiership.

[CapitalGreen]

AGF has contacted Danish Jon Dahl Tomasson, who became Swedish champions with Malmö FF in both 2020 and 2021. Several sources mention that the economy and Jon Dahl's desire to take the job may end up straining legs for AGF. Jon Dahl was linked with the job in Herenveen in February, but it ended up being nothing.

Translation reads to me like AGF want him but he’s unlikely to be interested and even if he was, his wage demands would prove difficult.

“Straining legs” should actually read “buckle legs” translated from Danish, meaning to put obstacles in the way of something; do something difficult or impossible for someone. Similar to “stumbling blocks” in English.

[007]

Where did you see this? I must have missed it.

https://youtu.be/0MzrXWNkVgk?t=2709

(Pushing the boat out).

[Unseen work]

https://youtu.be/0MzrXWNkVgk?t=2709

(Pushing the boat out).

Interesting, cheers for sharing.

Hopefully he actually knows something and it’s not guesswork.

[007]

Interesting, cheers for sharing.

Hopefully he actually knows something and it’s not guesswork.

Would like to think he'd be able to get some inside information.

[Brown Hibs]

It's definitely JDT. Otherwise Lj would be announced.

[Hibbyradge]

It's Jamie Carragher! 😳

[Onion]

Tam McManus said yesterday that the club were pulling out all the stops to try and get JDT. Might explain why there hasn't been anyone announced yet if we're in discussions with him.

Wouldn't be the same without the next man knowing he was 3rd on our list :greengrin

[Mrimbetween]

Tam kens fine well how to keep himself in a job

Doubt he kens **** all like the rest of us

Nice we gamble and if he's right way hay

If wrong keep stoop stum for few days and give it spin

All clubs have these guys on baord

IM chilled plenty time to see who gets the gig

[Dazzjw1875]

Think we could get announcement today, reason being the morn would make no sense due to the euro final the night and all headlines will be on that. Plus RG is supposed back to USA on Sat.. so would kinda make sense to do it now and have couple days working with him in regards to the squad. Surely RG will want this tied up before he leaves.

[Since452]

Think we could get announcement today, reason being the morn would make no sense due to the euro final the night and all headlines will be on that. Plus RG is supposed back to USA on Sat.. so would kinda make sense to do it now and have couple days working with him in regards to the squad. Surely RG will want this tied up before he leaves.

You might be right but would the club really be bothered about other news when they announced it?

[NC1875]

Think it was you that’s said him all along and thought he would be here on Sunday.

You heard it’s not confirmed?

You think it was JamesHFC ? He’s not shut up about for about a month 😂😂

[JimBHibees]

I prefer mine.

So do I :greengrin

[Callum_62]

You think it was JamesHFC ? He’s not shut up about for about a month [emoji23][emoji23]Pretty sure his bet is actually on Mark Mcghee and he's just driving his odds out with getting folk to put cash on LJ [emoji44][emoji23][emoji51]

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[KanyeWestLower]

If it is Lee Johnson i hope the Twitter admin is sensible enough to turn off replies to the tweet.


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[Hibs90]

If it is Lee Johnson i hope the Twitter admin is sensible enough to turn off replies to the tweet.


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Censorship?

Nah you’re alright. The longer this goes on the less likely I think it’s going to be JDT

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Announce Bobby Williamson.

[Libby Hibby]

Announce Bobby Williamson.

What are his win percentages on a Saturday at 3pm? What is his brand of football? What is the average amount of goals his team have scored on a Sunday? What is his away stats like? What is his favourite colour? What was his first pets name? Where was he born?

😂😂

[LancsHibs]

Hope the club announce today, I am beginning to worry that we have tried and failed to recruit JDT having previously made a verbal arrangement with LJ and left him hanging as we have pursued a better option. Now LJ might tell us to bolt knowing he isn’t first choice and leaving him waiting to look at other options in England. I hope we aren't back to square one and that’s what the hold up is.

[JimBHibees]

Censorship?

Nah you’re alright. The longer this goes on the less likely I think it’s going to be JDT

Think censorship on occasion is better than moronic abuse which seems to be the twitter norm

[500miles]

Censorship?

Nah you’re alright. The longer this goes on the less likely I think it’s going to be JDT

It's not really censorship. You can still tweet whatever you like, just not at a particular tweet. People don't have a right to pile on.

[04Sauzee]

Boy on twitter posted this on a Daily Record Sport tweet talking about JDT


Hibs put out a Tweet this morning saying welcome to Hibs - the tweet has gone - posted by mistake ?? It was definitely there I was sat having breakfast on a cruise ship in Alesund Norway 🇳🇴 when I saw the tweet at 6 this morning !!


Edit ... Fake Hibs account 😑

[Since452]

We just need to be patient. The club need to get this right. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes.

[GreenCastle]

Surely if they have agreed with LJ at the weekend then he could be appointed now but seems we are keeping him hanging for some reason - probably trying to get a better option ? Just seems a bit weird.

[Since452]

Surely if they have agreed with LJ at the weekend then he could be appointed now but seems we are keeping him hanging for some reason - probably trying to get a better option ? Just seems a bit weird.

Have we though? Sure it was the Daily Record that reported that terms were agreed. Wouldn't believe a word they say.

[Alex Trager]

Have we though? Sure it was the Daily Record that reported that terms were agreed. Wouldn't believe a word they say.

Think the EEN also reported that.

Just looked at Patrick McP’s twitter feed and he hasn’t reported that actually.

[Hibbyradge]

Surely if they have agreed with LJ at the weekend then he could be appointed now but seems we are keeping him hanging for some reason - probably trying to get a better option ? Just seems a bit weird.

It's not really weird.

Most people are interviewed by potential employers in the knowledge that further interviews would be taking place before a decision would be made.

There would be little point interviewing a candidate without discussing the contract on offer. Interviews aren't one way, so the question of remuneration would always be dealt with.

[Heisenberg]

Looks like it’s Lee.

https://twitter.com/alex_crook/status/1526832260309078017?s=21&t=M7JJYBxQHY4IWswBsbHpBA

[GloryGlory]

Don't know if this is just picking up from other sources:

https://the72.co.uk/273442/hibernian-set-to-appoint-ex-sunderland-boss-lee-johnson/

[bingo70]

It's not really weird.

Most people are interviewed by potential employers in the knowledge that further interviews were to take place before a decision would be made.

There would be little point interviewing a candidate without discussing the contract on offer. Interviews aren't one way, so the question of remuneration would always be dealt with.

I’ve been thinking about this as well, I think too much emphasis is being put on terms being agreed.

Surely it just makes good standard practice to say, before we go deep into the decision making process, the salary we would offer is in the ball park x amount, are you happy with that if you’re successful? They then either say yes, no, or negotiate a bit and then proceed with the interview.

I’m sure all the finer details will be ironed out before a deal is finalised however agreeing terms before wasting too much time makes complete sense to me.

[Hibbyradge]

I’ve been thinking about this as well, I think too much emphasis is being put on terms being agreed.

Surely it just makes good standard practice to say, before we go deep into the decision making process, the salary we would offer is in the ball park x amount, are you happy with that if you’re successful? They then either say yes, no, or negotiate a bit and then proceed with the interview.

I’m sure all the finer details will be ironed out before a deal is finalised however agreeing terms before wasting too much time makes complete sense to me.

Exactly Bingo

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Looks like it's LJ then. I'm ok with that. We've taken long enough so i'd like to think we've been through the right process

He's certainly not exotic, but he might just be what is needed to succeed at our level in Scottish football:

Robbie Neilson, failed at MK Dons
Graham Alexander, turfed out at multiple clubs down south
Malky Mckay, failed at a few clubs down south (extra baggage too)
Jim Goodwin, jury's out
Derek McInnes, struggled down south

The only club in the prem doing something different is DU and he almost got sacked halfway through the season

Let the new era commence

[Nicho87]

I can’t see hibs announcing anything

They will want decent media coverage and with the hun playing tonight can’t see anything until Thursday afternoon earliest.

[Greenworld]

Well if it is Lee Johnstone then he has my full backing and more importantly hopefully the clubs extra financial backing [emoji106]

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[Unseen work]

JDT was always going to be a a long shot and we don’t know the reasons why he never got the job - wage demands, not interested or board not impressed/preferred Johnson so let’s not knock the board.

If it is Johnson then congratulations and I’m looking forward to kicking on, still think he is a good appointment

[sleeping giant]

I can’t see hibs announcing anything

They will want decent media coverage and with the hun playing tonight can’t see anything until Thursday afternoon earliest.

Why would they want media coverage?

[GloryGlory]

Well if it is Lee Johnstone then he has my full backing and more importantly hopefully the clubs extra financial backing [emoji106]

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Mine too.

I support Hibs. Players come, players go. Managers come, managers go. I still support Hibs.

[One Day Soon]

The Hibernian FC managerial appointment I want them to announce:

Jon Dahl Tomasson has agreed terms for a three year deal and is at the club today where he is expected to announce two coaches who will join him at the club, one each respectively from his playing time at Milan and Feyenoord as well as new assistant manager Scott Brown. Ron Gordon also announced an substantially increased transfer and salary budget for the new manager allowing him to bring in at least seven new targets, three have already been identified and are ready to sign. They are understood to be established professionals with impressive senior pedigrees.

Tomasson said "We will be playing attacking, high-tempo and high-press football. Everyone who buys into that will be supported and developed, anyone who doesn't can leave now. I'm here to build a team that wins silverware and competes in Europe every season. This club is the biggest in the capital, the first and best Scottish club in green and is a model of open, inclusive non-sectarian excellence. With hard work, leadership on and off the park and the support of the angels up above we're going to fill this place, build a fortress and put a team on the park that Lawrie Reilly would be proud of. My message to the fans is this, look out those scarves, buy your season tickets, get your family and friends to join you and get ready for the Hibernian you've been waiting for. It's time to get back to being Hibs class.


The Hibernian FC managerial appointment I fear they will announce:

Serious Blokeface has agreed terms for a deal that everyone already knows won't complete its course and will join the club in mid-June after his annual two week Algarve golfing trip with his buddies. He will be accompanied by coaches Blande Averager and Nonleague Oldtimer from his previous role as manager of Pimlico FC, as well as new assistant manager Warko Jiss. Ron Gordon also announced that the club's wages and transfer budget, while limited, would not be cut in the face of difficult economic circumstances and slow season ticket sales. Gordon expressed his confidence in the strong squad already at the club and in Blokeface's ability to both get the best out of the players he has and to find additional players from his extensive contacts in the Poundshop Conference League in Wales where Blokeface previously played at that league's highest level.

Blokeface said "We will definitely be playing football. Football that will work in this league. I'm delighted with the squad we have. We have to be realistic about our resources and constraints but Pimlico taught me a lot about that. I know this is a big league because Celtic and Rangers. I'm excited to manage here because I've been an East Stirlingshire (Rangers) fan all my life. This club is in the capital, we wear green and I'd just like to wish Rangers all the best in the final. My message to the fans is this, I'll have very serous expressions on my face on matchday and so should you. Oh, I forgot to say, Pat Stanton, 2016 and Leith.


Too pessimistic?

[Unseen work]

What’s with all the Sunderland fans comparing Johnson to David Brent?🤣

[Zambernardi1875]

What’s with all the Sunderland fans comparing Johnson to David Brent?🤣

Bristol city fans I’ve spoke up have said the same. Bit of an oddball mid level office manager

[Heisenberg]

What’s with all the Sunderland fans comparing Johnson to David Brent?��

https://twitter.com/deanocummings85/status/1526847311082450944?s=21&t=-47ikjwFAhwue6nhCX6Uzw

Should work out tremendously.

[Hibs90]

Any enthusiasm I could muster for Hibs is completely gone with this appointment if true.

Disappointing and depressing.

[Alex Trager]

Any enthusiasm I could muster for Hibs is completely gone with this appointment if true.

Disappointing and depressing.

Agree unfortunately

[AugustaHibs]

****ing brutal appointment. Just look at the replies to the tweet from Alex crook

[bingo70]

Good to see everybody focusing on the positives 😃

I couldn’t care less what fans of other clubs say, most football fans talk ***** and the ones on social media seem to be the worst.

Good luck to the guy but I think he’s mad for taking the job, he’s on a hiding to nothing with so many fans being against it from the start.

[Since452]

Happy with this appointment. After Maloney we've gone down the sensible route and thank ****.

[One Day Soon]

What’s with all the Sunderland fans comparing Johnson to David Brent?🤣


I found this among other things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw04fIvfdQQ

If it's him I have no idea how he will turn out for us. However I struggle to see how he will inspire or lead his team based on the various videos I've watched of him in formal and informal settings. He seems very laid back with little to say. Good luck to him and us, but if I'm honest at this point its a very big 'meh' from me.

[WhileTheChief..]

Any enthusiasm I could muster for Hibs is completely gone with this appointment if true.

Disappointing and depressing.


Don't give up hope yet, it's only a couple of Tweets!!

I still think we'll be pleasantly surprised :thumbsup:

[Hibernian Verse]

****ing brutal appointment. Just look at the replies to the tweet from Alex crook

Don't use twitter as a barometer, wait and make your own judgement after the first round of fixtures.

[SMAXXA]

Don't give up hope yet, it's only a couple of Tweets!!

I still think we'll be pleasantly surprised :thumbsup:

I’m not so sure

[GreenGray]

LJ two weeks ago when there were no rumours of JDT would have been an alright appointment at best. Now after we were teased with JDT it feels like an empty and awful appointment.

Massive job for him to turn both the team and fans attitudes round now.


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[AugustaHibs]

Happy with this appointment. After Maloney we've gone down the sensible route and thank ****.

This is sensible? Please give us your reasonings for believing that.

[HendoDelivered]

“For any Hibs fans, expect attractive football and a heavy use of the wide areas and plenty of overloads, however his football is definitely boom or bust and the defence will not be organised at all, depending on who you are his soundbites may grate on you”

[Johnny_Leith]

Going with the cheaper option?

Underwhelming, considering JDT, McInnes, Cocu, Keane have all been linked with the job and we've ended up with LJ.

I'll back him as I am a supporter but his CV doesn't give me much hope and the testimonials from other fan groups is not positive.

Really disappointed if true.

[Coco Bryce]

Any enthusiasm I could muster for Hibs is completely gone with this appointment if true.

Disappointing and depressing.

Totally underwhelming.

[Heisenberg]

“For any Hibs fans, expect attractive football and a heavy use of the wide areas and plenty of overloads, however his football is definitely boom or bust and the defence will not be organised at all, depending on who you are his soundbites may grate on you”

Think it’s a stick on we’ll take a couple of batterings with him at the helm. He goes for it against everyone from what I’ve read, which may please some but probably not if we’re six goals down.

[JXM73]

Heckys at the wheel part 2...

[Callum_62]

I think both are reasonable choices to be fair

JDT would've been more exciting but Lee Johnsone is not a bad choice at all

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[04Sauzee]

****ing brutal appointment. Just look at the replies to the tweet from Alex crook

Wouldn't go of twitter, I seen a couple of tweets last night saying Billy Sharp deserved a sore face.

[Since452]

This is sensible? Please give us your reasonings for believing that.

Ok no problem. Young but experienced manager with potential to get better. Looks like he's left each club higher in the league than when he took over. Won a trophy at Sunderland with a 51% win rate.

[Coco Bryce]

Happy with this appointment. After Maloney we've gone down the sensible route and thank ****.

Sensible? On what basis?

[Tambo]

Going with the cheaper option?

Underwhelming, considering JDT, McInnes, Cocu, Keane have all been linked with the job and we've ended up with LJ.

I'll back him as I am a supporter but his CV doesn't give me much hope and the testimonials from other fan groups is not positive.

Really disappointed if true.

Nail on the he head. Just look at the poll on here between LJ and JDT. If both had agreed terms and hibs have went for LJ then God help Ron and his team selling as many season tickets as he liked.

[Hibs90]

Don't give up hope yet, it's only a couple of Tweets!!

I still think we'll be pleasantly surprised :thumbsup:

Hopefully but I don’t think we will be.

Underwhelmed.

[Wilson]

Delighted if true. He has good experience for a young manager. Has had praise for his style of football at various points - from Pep Guardiola amongst others. I think being at one of the bigger clubs in the division will bring the best out in him.

Certainly we should keep an open mind and give him a chance.

[Lee Marvin]

Has a potential managerial appointment ever gone down this badly with the punters in modern history? I can't remember one.

Honestly, just so fed up with Hibs now.

[AugustaHibs]

Ok no problem. Young but experienced manager with potential to get better. Looks like he's left each club higher in the league than when he took over. Won a trophy at Sunderland with a 51% win rate.

Sunderland should be performing like Celtic or rangers in that division. 51% win rate imo is poor

[500miles]

Happy with this appointment. After Maloney we've gone down the sensible route and thank ****.

I would have liked JDT, but can see the sense in getting LJ, who's average reign is over 2 years whereas JDT is under 1.

I wonder if any of our players know LJ and would be consulted.

[chippy]

If it’s LJ, I think that is part of Ron’s exit strategy

[500miles]

Sunderland should be performing like Celtic or rangers in that division. 51% win rate imo is poor

And yet they never really have.

[bingo70]

Sunderland should be performing like Celtic or rangers in that division. 51% win rate imo is poor

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

[Hibs90]

Delighted if true. He has good experience for a young manager. Has had praise for his style of football at various points - from Pep Guardiola amongst others. I think being at one of the bigger clubs in the division will bring the best out in him.

Certainly we should keep an open mind and give him a chance.

He was at the biggest club in the division in Sunderland and it never brought the best in him did it? Can’t wait to be thrashed 6-0 at home to Kilmarnock

[Springbank]

Here's the deal, Hibs Board Members.

You appoint Jon Dahl Tomasson, Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Roy Keane, and season tickets hit 13,000 in anticipation of what might follow - we are dreamers.

You appoint Lee Johnson, then, like Tony Mowbray, you start with 6,500 season tickets (because we're not that excited yet) and it then comes down to the quality of your signings and the quality of your football.

Mowbray & Lennon had us opening the south stand to Hibees to accommodate all those wanting to see the team - Mogga through the quality of his work.

But if the team plays poorly, with JDT, OGS or Keane, you still have 13,000 season books.
If the team plays poorly with LJ, expect more attendances (bums on seats) like Saturday there v Saints.

[AugustaHibs]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

Where was his nationality mentioned?

There is tons of red flags.

Ron and Ronseal just don’t get it.

[500miles]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

I think we have been burnt by guys from that kind of managerial background before - with a feeling they don't take scottish football seriously enough.

[Since452]

Sunderland should be performing like Celtic or rangers in that division. 51% win rate imo is poor

Jack Ross never managed that and had us finish 3rd and got us to cup finals every season.

[SlickShoes]

I feel like if this is the direction we are going Ron should have just called up Jack Ross, apologised and invited him back to work.

[Springbank]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

Go have a lie down British Nat
If we had a certain Norwegian or a Dane or an Irish legend being announced (or the English Tony Mowbray) we'd all be delighted
Put your wee flag away til kick off time tonight...

[Wilson]

Nail on the he head. Just look at the poll on here between LJ and JDT. If both had agreed terms and hibs have went for LJ then God help Ron and his team selling as many season tickets as he liked.

Getting the right appointment doesn't necessarily mean picking the guy at the top of a fans poll. We'd have had Keane last week, JDT this, and god knows who next.

Results and performances are the only barometer. Not popularity polls based on no real insight.

[Tyler Durden]

He was at the biggest club in the division in Sunderland and it never brought the best in him did it? Can’t wait to be thrashed 6-0 at home to Kilmarnock

Just give up being a Hibs fan then and we won't have to read pish like this.

[Brightside]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

Who is fussed about him being English. The let down is clearly due to him being 2nd choice. We obv couldnt afford JDT so we just need to get on with it now.

[Wilson]

I feel like if this is the direction we are going Ron should have just called up Jack Ross, apologised and invited him back to work.

Not the worst suggestion and I was never his biggest fan. Pretty unlikely though.

[Callum_62]

Getting the right appointment doesn't necessarily mean picking the guy at the top of a fans poll. We'd have had Keane last week, JDT this, and god knows who next.

Results and performances are the only barometer. Not popularity polls based on no real insight.Far too sensible and reasoned for the next manager thread

Banned.

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[Bridge hibs]

Ffs pant wetting central and nobody has actually been announced yet 🤣

[04Sauzee]

Who is fussed about him being English. The let down is clearly due to him being 2nd choice. We obv couldnt afford JDT so we just need to get on with it now.

Clearly 2nd choice of who? The fans ? The Hibs board?

[HendoDelivered]

Cue the misspelling of LJ’s last name :greengrin

[bigwheel]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

Not seen one single mention of his nationality beong issue ..

His “meh” management record ..that’s the reason people are largely disappointed

If he gets anywhere near Jack Ross’s record for us I’ll be delighted

[GreenCastle]

Think it’s a stick on we’ll take a couple of batterings with him at the helm. He goes for it against everyone from what I’ve read, which may please some but probably not if we’re six goals down.

I don’t want some batterings or losing to lower league teams - just a manager that knows what they are doing and realises how much deadwood we have in the squad.

[500miles]

Here's the deal, Hibs Board Members.

You appoint Jon Dahl Tomasson, Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Roy Keane, and season tickets hit 13,000 in anticipation of what might follow - we are dreamers.

You appoint Lee Johnson, then, like Tony Mowbray, you start with 6,500 season tickets (because we're not that excited yet) and it then comes down to the quality of your signings and the quality of your football.

Mowbray & Lennon had us opening the south stand to Hibees to accommodate all those wanting to see the team - Mogga through the quality of his work.

But if the team plays poorly, with JDT, OGS or Keane, you still have 13,000 season books.
If the team plays poorly with LJ, expect more attendances (bums on seats) like Saturday there v Saints.

You're on crack if you think the manager would double season ticket sales.

[SMAXXA]

Who is fussed about him being English. The let down is clearly due to him being 2nd choice. We obv couldnt afford JDT so we just need to get on with it now.

Love how we all assume that the reason. Ever considered it could be a number of factors for example his assistant didn’t want to come and couldn’t confirm who else would be coming in as part of his team?

[Vault Boy]

I'll judge any appointment by their performance, but I sincerely wish I could be more excited by LJ's appointment. I haven't felt this flat about a new manager in a good while. If ever, to be honest.

If it's to be him, then best of luck to the guy. Hope I'll feel like a fool once he gets going.

[Brightside]

Clearly 2nd choice of who? The fans ? The Hibs board?

The Hibs board. He was the no1 choice. We cant afford him. Im fine with that.

[Jones28]

I can't remember an appointment be so rubbished before it's even ****ing well announced :faf:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Why would they want media coverage?

Season Tickets...

[sleeping giant]

Its the hope that kills you 😂

[One Day Soon]

Go have a lie down British Nat
If we had a certain Norwegian or a Dane or an Irish legend being announced (or the English Tony Mowbray) we'd all be delighted
Put your wee flag away til kick off time tonight...


Completely unnecessary.

[Hibs90]

Just give up being a Hibs fan then and we won't have to read pish like this.

Yawn. Entitled to my opinion just as much as anyone else.

Hibs had the chance to unite the fans and the club again with this manager appointment. Just look at the reaction everywhere when some of the names were linked. There was enthusiasm and excitement, if it’s true it’s Johnson it’s done the complete opposite.

[Brightside]

Love how we all assume that the reason. Ever considered it could be a number of factors for example his assistant didn’t want to come and couldn’t confirm who else would be coming in as part of his team?

Maybe - but we were in contract discussions with him for a few days. For whatever reason we could get that sorted and we've gone with Johnson.

[greenpaper55]

Go have a lie down British Nat
If we had a certain Norwegian or a Dane or an Irish legend being announced (or the English Tony Mowbray) we'd all be delighted
Put your wee flag away til kick off time tonight...

So we have to be a SNP supporter to post on this site ?

[Jones28]

Here's the deal, Hibs Board Members.

You appoint Jon Dahl Tomasson, Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Roy Keane, and season tickets hit 13,000 in anticipation of what might follow - we are dreamers.

You appoint Lee Johnson, then, like Tony Mowbray, you start with 6,500 season tickets (because we're not that excited yet) and it then comes down to the quality of your signings and the quality of your football.

Mowbray & Lennon had us opening the south stand to Hibees to accommodate all those wanting to see the team - Mogga through the quality of his work.

But if the team plays poorly, with JDT, OGS or Keane, you still have 13,000 season books.
If the team plays poorly with LJ, expect more attendances (bums on seats) like Saturday there v Saints.

You're off your head with this assessment.

The last time we had those kind of numbers we'd just won the Scottish cup. Pep Guardiola wouldn't double Hibs season ticket numbers.

[Hibernian Verse]

People suggesting that we could have attracted the last Man Utd manager must genuinely live on crack.

[sleeping giant]

Season Tickets...

I dont think anyone who would potentially buy an ST would forget because the news was on the same day as a rangers gane.

[truehibernian]

I feel like if this is the direction we are going Ron should have just called up Jack Ross, apologised and invited him back to work.

I’m not even going to join in with the “give him time” or “he’ll get my full support regardless” argument - if it’s Lee Johnson it’s a horrendous appointment, pure and simple. On many levels.

You’re right, if that’s Hibs managerial ambitions, and after a so-called protracted process, we should have retained Jack. Hibs are a shambles at the minute !

[04Sauzee]

I dont think anyone who would potentially buy an ST would forget because the news was on the same day as a rangers gane.

👍🤣🤣

[evy]

Here's the deal, Hibs Board Members.

You appoint Jon Dahl Tomasson, Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Roy Keane, and season tickets hit 13,000 in anticipation of what might follow - we are dreamers.

You appoint Lee Johnson, then, like Tony Mowbray, you start with 6,500 season tickets (because we're not that excited yet) and it then comes down to the quality of your signings and the quality of your football.

Mowbray & Lennon had us opening the south stand to Hibees to accommodate all those wanting to see the team - Mogga through the quality of his work.

But if the team plays poorly, with JDT, OGS or Keane, you still have 13,000 season books.
If the team plays poorly with LJ, expect more attendances (bums on seats) like Saturday there v Saints.

Delusions of grandeur, ST sales MIGHT hit 10k, but we're getting nowhere near 13k.

[Gordy M]

Why has the Talk Sport reporter 'broke' the news on Twitter? Would it not be more likely someone from EEN? Seems a bit random?

[Callum_62]

I’m not even going to join in with the “give him time” or “he’ll get my full support regardless” argument - if it’s Lee Johnson it’s a horrendous appointment, pure and simple. On many levels.

You’re right, if that’s Hibs managerial ambitions, and after a so-called protracted process, we should have retained Jack. Hibs are a shambles at the minute !Why is it 'horrendous?'

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[hibbyfraelibby]

So we have to be a SNP supporter to post on this site ?

Of course not...just being a Green is enough😉

[Unseen work]

I find it mental that just because Johnson managed in England people assume he will be the same as Calderwood and Heckingbottom.

[Hibernian Verse]

I’m not even going to join in with the “give him time” or “he’ll get my full support regardless” argument - if it’s Lee Johnson it’s a horrendous appointment, pure and simple. On many levels.

You’re right, if that’s Hibs managerial ambitions, and after a so-called protracted process, we should have retained Jack. Hibs are a shambles at the minute !

Which levels?

[Since452]

Getting the right appointment doesn't necessarily mean picking the guy at the top of a fans poll. We'd have had Keane last week, JDT this, and god knows who next.

Results and performances are the only barometer. Not popularity polls based on no real insight.

I'm sure the appointment of Terry Butcher had the majority of fans absolutley buzzing whereas Mowbray was met with apathy. Christ, i wanted Roy Keane in who hasn't managed in over a decade. That is exactly why fans don't run football clubs. To me Johnson seems a good appointment and i'll be right behind him.

[Hibernian Verse]

Tickets for Tynecastle shouldn't be a problem next season thankfully with all these "hibs fans" not buying season tickets.

Chucking the towel in before the season has even started is a new one, but that's just a sad indicator of 2022.

[Callum_62]

I find it mental that just because Johnson managed in England people assume he will be the same as Calderwood and Heckingbottom.Same - it's so weird

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[One Day Soon]

Why has the Talk Sport reporter 'broke' the news on Twitter? Would it not be more likely someone from EEN? Seems a bit random?

Well, it's not impossible this 'leak' is from someone trying to bounce the club into appointing LJ...

[Hibbyradge]

Tickets for Tynecastle shouldn't be a problem next season thankfully with all these "hibs fans" not buying season tickets.

Chucking the towel in before the season has even started is a new one, but that's just a sad indicator of 2022.

Some people have the resilience of a boiled pea.

[G15 Hibs]

I find it mental that just because Johnson managed in England people assume he will be the same as Calderwood and Heckingbottom.

And because he was at Sunderland he'll be another Jack Ross. Why are people like this?

[bingo70]

Not seen one single mention of his nationality beong issue ..

His “meh” management record ..that’s the reason people are largely disappointed

If he gets anywhere near Jack Ross’s record for us I’ll be delighted

His managerial record at his most recent club was very similar to that of Jack Ross (but possibly a bit better as he won a cup). Everybody was delighted with Ross but it’s tantrum central about LJ. He’s had some relative success at his previous clubs as well and plays attacking football.

Why is there such a difference between the reaction to Ross’s appointment compared to LJ’s?

[flash]

This place has morphed into the worst of Hibs social media with totally hysterical and often utterly moronic responses to the prospect of this appointment.

Aye the idea of JDT was one for the romantics but not a single one of us is privvy to why the final decision will be made, least of all those who pretend to be in the know.

Since when did we stop even giving people the smallest chance or benefit of the doubt and become instead this faux outraged, self indulgent bunch of pathetic whingers?

Personally i look forward to getting a manager with a gung ho attacking philosophy as i have been bored stiff 95% of the time the last few years.

[Brightside]

Well, it's not impossible this 'leak' is from someone trying to bounce the club into appointing LJ...

Chat is its LJ thats telling people he's been offered it.

[Blaster]

Just get whoever it’s going to be in today and start focussing on getting the quality signings we need. Time is marching on and we need to catch up quickly

[Callum_62]

This place has morphed into the worst of Hibs social media with totally hysterical and often utterly moronic responses to the prospect of this appointment.

Aye the idea of JDT was one for the romantics but not a single one of us is privvy to why the final decision will be made, least of all those who pretend to be in the know.

Since when did we stop even giving people the smallest chance or benefit of the doubt and become instead this faux outraged, self indulgent bunch of pathetic whingers?

Personally i look forward to getting a manager with a gung ho attacking philosophy as i have been bored stiff 95% of the time the last few years.To be fair, the boy did wear a cashmere scarf so that's me out

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[Tambo]

Getting the right appointment doesn't necessarily mean picking the guy at the top of a fans poll. We'd have had Keane last week, JDT this, and god knows who next.

Results and performances are the only barometer. Not popularity polls based on no real insight.

Totally understandable all I'm saying if it was between these two it looks like JDT is better on paper.

Don't worry I'll still be supporting Hibs and counting down the days till Norwich friendly.

GGTTH.

[Hibbyradge]

Chat is its LJ thats telling people he's been offered it.

Who's chatting?

[mcfly]

Got to give the guy a chance but this won’t sell more season tickets and fans like myself who were considering renewing maybe won’t.

Club had chance to appoint big name manager and they’ve let us down.

Maybe we aren’t the attractive proposition for a manager that we think we are.

Very disappointing if true.

[weecounty hibby]

His managerial record at his most recent club was very similar to that of Jack Ross (but possibly a bit better as he won a cup). Everybody was delighted with Ross but it’s tantrum central about LJ. He’s had some relative success at his previous clubs as well and plays attacking football.

Why is there such a difference between the reaction to Ross’s appointment compared to LJ’s?
I think it's because folk wanted a "name". Started with Keane then Cocu and then onto JDT. Some higher profile names and folk got excited by that. Personally think Keane would have been exciting but not sure he would have beenna success. Could, nae idea. JDT, again nae idea. LJ, still nae idea but looks to be a safe and uninspiring appt to many. He also played for the tarts so some folk have chucked the toys out the pram about that.

[RossScott1991]

Hard to get excited

Give the guy a chance.

But it’s very hard to feel optimistic considering the current squad also. Coupled in with a manager with a bang average record.

Not feeling very hopeful

[Unseen work]

I would rather the board appoint someone they think will do the best job for the club and get fans back for a period of time than one that sounds good and will give an initial buzz but ultimately fizzle out.

Can we at least give the club the benefit of the doubt for once and trust them and the new manager.

Let’s see who is recruited and the team we have.

Even Stevenson was saying the club is going in the right direction.

[Jones28]

Got to give the guy a chance but this won’t sell more season tickets and fans like myself who were considering renewing maybe won’t.

Club had chance to appoint big name manager and they’ve let us down.

Maybe we aren’t the attractive proposition for a manager that we think we are.

Very disappointing if true.

After the season we've had, with no European football next season and a major squad rebuild required I don't think we are that attractive a proposition at this point in time.

You only have to read some of the comments on here to see how big a challenge LJ will be up against to win some fans over.

[SlickShoes]

His managerial record at his most recent club was very similar to that of Jack Ross (but possibly a bit better as he won a cup). Everybody was delighted with Ross but it’s tantrum central about LJ. He’s had some relative success at his previous clubs as well and plays attacking football.

Why is there such a difference between the reaction to Ross’s appointment compared to LJ’s?

Probably has a lot to do with Ron's publicly stated ambitions for the club and the fact he sacked Jack Ross.

If we have such lofty ambitions why are we employing someone with a pretty similar history and trajectory as our recently sacked manager?

[Willis1875]

His last match in football was a 6-0 drubbing at the hands of Bolton Wanderers
I’m not sure Sunderland should be shipping 6 goals to anybody in that league,imagine history repeats itself in a derby

[One Day Soon]

His managerial record at his most recent club was very similar to that of Jack Ross (but possibly a bit better as he won a cup). Everybody was delighted with Ross but it’s tantrum central about LJ. He’s had some relative success at his previous clubs as well and plays attacking football.

Why is there such a difference between the reaction to Ross’s appointment compared to LJ’s?


I'll have ago at trying to guess.

Partly because we have already recently been over the course of with Heckingbottom and Ross of managers with a pedigree that largely lies in the English leagues, partly because consciously or sub-consciously most of us know the club is in a bad place and really needs an appointment that feels like its a major one which heralds a sea-change, partly because speculation about someone like JDT has raised hopes of a new approach at the club where we want to think and act on a bigger scale and partly because Heck, Ross and Maloney have all been the quietly spoken, low-key and seemingly passionless type whose personalities were generally grimly reflected in the football we have played.

[One Day Soon]

Chat is its LJ thats telling people he's been offered it.

Colour me shocked.

[bingo70]

This place has morphed into the worst of Hibs social media with totally hysterical and often utterly moronic responses to the prospect of this appointment.

Aye the idea of JDT was one for the romantics but not a single one of us is privvy to why the final decision will be made, least of all those who pretend to be in the know.

Since when did we stop even giving people the smallest chance or benefit of the doubt and become instead this faux outraged, self indulgent bunch of pathetic whingers?

Personally i look forward to getting a manager with a gung ho attacking philosophy as i have been bored stiff 95% of the time the last few years.

Good post, totally agree.

Maybe the board spoke to JDT and felt he wouldn’t be totally invested in the job, maybe the actually did some research and got bad vibes after digging a bit deeper.

On top of that, maybe the opposite happened with LJ.

Reaction to him being appointed his horrendous, the guy will be about to start working every hour his sends no doubt, presumably away from his family, to try and make our club better and based on here and social media he’s being hounded out already.

By all means have an opinion but it’s incredible tk see how few people are open minded enough to accept they could be wrong and have written him off already.

[neil7908]

I think LJ is probably getting a raw deal from the fans largely due to a lack of trust in those making the appointment. Like others, JDT seems on a paper a great option but we don't know if he was ever interested, or what his salary is demands were etc.

However, I don't have a lot of confidence that Kendell, the Gordon's etc will make the right appointment.

[One Day Soon]

This place has morphed into the worst of Hibs social media with totally hysterical and often utterly moronic responses to the prospect of this appointment.

Aye the idea of JDT was one for the romantics but not a single one of us is privvy to why the final decision will be made, least of all those who pretend to be in the know.

Since when did we stop even giving people the smallest chance or benefit of the doubt and become instead this faux outraged, self indulgent bunch of pathetic whingers?

Personally i look forward to getting a manager with a gung ho attacking philosophy as i have been bored stiff 95% of the time the last few years.


I'm going to say the 'since when' was during the six years since 21 May 2016 in which we have gradually pissed away the momentum and opportunity generated by that literally once in many lifetimes opportunity.

[SHODAN]

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[bingo70]

Probably has a lot to do with Ron's publicly stated ambitions for the club and the fact he sacked Jack Ross.

If we have such lofty ambitions why are we employing someone with a pretty similar history and trajectory as our recently sacked manager?

Because they’re too entirely different people, even if they were at similar clubs.

Jack Ross was known for being a cautious manager that would be a safe pair of hands.

It appears to me that LJ wants to play attacking football but has been criticised for not knowing when to shut up shop (hence the embarrassing looking pumpings)

Just because Jack Ross and LJ have both managed Sunderland doesn’t make them remotely similar.

[SHODAN]

Tickets for Tynecastle shouldn't be a problem next season thankfully with all these "hibs fans" not buying season tickets.

Chucking the towel in before the season has even started is a new one, but that's just a sad indicator of 2022.

Any Hibs fan who attends an away derby this year should be given priority for the next decade.

[McGruber]

Yet Jack Ross appointment was met with almost universal approval?

Is a big factor for his unpopularity because he’s English? That doesn’t sit right with me at all.

I doubt very much it has anything to do with him being English, I've not seen that reaction anywhere. Some because of ex-Hearts connections but again small minority.

[One Day Soon]

Any Hibs fan who attends an away derby this year should be given priority for the next decade.


And possibly also the offer of free counselling.*


*Dependent upon results, managerial appointment and signings. Hibernian may contain nuts.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’m not even going to join in with the give him time” or “he’ll get my full support regardless” argument “- if it’s Lee Johnson it’s a horrendous appointment, pure and simple. On many levels.

You’re right, if that’s Hibs managerial ambitions, and after a so-called protracted process, we should have retained Jack. Hibs are a shambles at the minute !

It's an interesting point.

I mentioned this the other day, but what do we have to do to give him our support?!! If folk simply mean what they post on here then fine, it really makes no difference.

I'm with you on this. I think it's as bad an appointment as Maloney's was, if not worse.

With Maloney, no one saw it coming, and most were like, ok, let's give him a chance.

With LJ, the vast majority of fans don't want him. It doesn't make sense to deliberately appoint someone that you know is not wanted from day 1.

A shambles indeed.

(I take this all back if we get JDT):greengrin

[500miles]

I'm going to say the 'since when' was during the six years since 21 May 2016 in which we have gradually pissed away the momentum and opportunity generated by that literally once in many lifetimes opportunity.

That's weird, because all I've seen is promotion, our highest prem points total, Europe, 3rd place, punctuated by a couple of midtable finishes. Which is well above our average

[WhileTheChief..]

I find it mental that just because Johnson managed in England people assume he will be the same as Calderwood and Heckingbottom.

Is it because he managed in England that people think this?

Or is it because they think he's got a completely unremarkable record in management, similar to Calderwood and Heckingbottom?

I'd suggest it's more likely the latter.

[Unseen work]

People realise JDT could have rejected us right?

Could have had expectations of a far higher wage for himself, budget for players etc etc

Maybe he was completely unrealistic

Let’s just support the club

[bingo70]

It's an interesting point.

I mentioned this the other day, but what do we have to do to give him our support?!! If folk simply mean what they post on here then fine, it really makes no difference.

I'm with you on this. I think it's as bad an appointment as Maloney's was, if not worse.

With Maloney, no one saw it coming, and most were like, ok, let's give him a chance.

With LJ, the vast majority of fans don't want him. It doesn't make sense to deliberately appoint someone that you know is not wanted from day 1.

A shambles indeed.

(I take this all back if we get JDT):greengrin

It’s not an interesting point, it’s a stupid one.

Disappointing it’s come from someone that’s normally a good poster as well.

[Lee Marvin]

Seems strange that nobody else has reported this yet....

[Unseen work]

Is it because he managed in England that people think this?

Or is it because they think he's got a completely unremarkable record in management, similar to Calderwood and Heckingbottom?

I'd suggest it's more likely the latter.


I think quite a few we’re excited for Heckingbottom but in answer to your question I think it’s just laziness by some.

You could look at managers we’ve had over the past 20 years and before some fans were buzzing for his appointment (Butcher) which turned out awful and then the opposite with Mowbray, Stubbs etc.

Even guys at other teams like Stephen Robinson, when he was doing well at Motherwell there was a clamour to get him. Look how that turned out.

Johnson has had a pretty good managerial career to date and plays attacking football. It sounds like he’s came across the best in interview and maybe suits the board the best.

[McGruber]

What’s with all the Sunderland fans comparing Johnson to David Brent?🤣

Do yourself a favour and don't watch the training videos on youtube.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Underwhelming really and does nothing to give any enthusiasm for Hibs going forward. Hoping it’s just a journalist having a guess.

The reports from fans of his previous teams have been really quite negative mostly. His record doesn’t stand out as anything spectacular either.

Would much rather have had JDT.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Here's the deal, Hibs Board Members.

You appoint Jon Dahl Tomasson, Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Roy Keane, and season tickets hit 13,000 in anticipation of what might follow - we are dreamers.

You appoint Lee Johnson, then, like Tony Mowbray, you start with 6,500 season tickets (because we're not that excited yet) and it then comes down to the quality of your signings and the quality of your football.

Mowbray & Lennon had us opening the south stand to Hibees to accommodate all those wanting to see the team - Mogga through the quality of his work.

But if the team plays poorly, with JDT, OGS or Keane, you still have 13,000 season books.
If the team plays poorly with LJ, expect more attendances (bums on seats) like Saturday there v Saints.

Lennon wasn't a popular choice at the time either

[SHODAN]

My excitement/expectations for previous Hibs managers (on appointment) can probably be ranked thus:

1. Lennon
2. Ross
3. Butcher
4. Hughes
5. Collins
6. Stubbs
7. Maloney
8. Fenlon
9. Paatelainen
10. Heckingbottom
11. Calderwood

If we appoint Johnson I'd maybe put him above Calderwood. Tomasson would probably go right at the top.

[One Day Soon]

It's an interesting point.

I mentioned this the other day, but what do we have to do to give him our support?!! If folk simply mean what they post on here then fine, it really makes no difference.

I'm with you on this. I think it's as bad an appointment as Maloney's was, if not worse.

With Maloney, no one saw it coming, and most were like, ok, let's give him a chance.

With LJ, the vast majority of fans don't want him. It doesn't make sense to deliberately appoint someone that you know is not wanted from day 1.

A shambles indeed.

(I take this all back if we get JDT):greengrin



So you're thinking about sacking Maloney and then after you do it you have weeks of a caretaker manager. From the current position it appears to be the case that we didn't prepare new management targets in the weeks run up to the sacking and tomorrow will also be one month since he was axed. There's no way doubts weren't being felt inside the club about Maloney well before he went. How difficult can it be to prep to appoint a manager you feel is the right guy to do a good job and will either excite the fans or be a figure they can warm to?

My predisposition as a Happy Clapper seems a lifetime ago now. I do not feel that our club is being well run and I put that down to effectively having an owner who is an absentee and seemingly naive about Scottish football, crossed with people running the club on a day to day basis who fill me with little confidence. Above all it feels like we are in desperate need of leadership at all levels.

I really, really hope I am completely wrong and have to eat shedloads of humble pie about this.

[Since452]

None of us have interviewd Johnson or JDT. Twice for that matter. What if JDT said something in his second interview that sounded alarm bells? Why are people getting outraged about Johnson? Maybe his vision and plan is better than JDT's? Maybe he's willing to relocate and JDT isnt? Maybe Johnson is willing to commit loger? We have absolutley no idea what's been said in these interviews. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the board are appointing Johnson out of the best interests of the club because he came across better?

[Since452]

My excitement/expectations for previous Hibs managers (on appointment) can probably be ranked thus:

1. Lennon
2. Ross
3. Butcher
4. Hughes
5. Collins
6. Stubbs
7. Maloney
8. Fenlon
9. Paatelainen
10. Heckingbottom
11. Calderwood

If we appoint Johnson I'd maybe put him above Calderwood. Tomasson would probably go right at the top.

I'd have put Mowbray below them all and that turned out pretty well.

[JamesHFC]

Think it was you that’s said him all along and thought he would be here on Sunday.

You heard it’s not confirmed?

Yep, it’s done.

[Scotty Leither]

Utterly underwhelming if this is true.

Pendulum now swings to our much vaunted recruitment committee to bring in some decent signings to whet the appetite for the season, and I’m not exactly brimming with confidence that they’ll do that, or be allowed to spend the £££ needed to improve this bang average squad.

Our owner is going back to the States at the weekend too, apparently., so Kensell will need to step into the breech and sell this appointment to the fans, and thus far he’s not exactly been prominent either.

I don’t really get the direction of the club right now, and I don’t think they get us either.

31 staff for the football operation, 12 largely faceless and anonymous Directors, and a piss poor squad shorn of any quality.

[GloryGlory]

Other news outlets running with the LJ story.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-wins-race-to-be-next-hibs-manager-with-former-hearts-team-mate-set-to-join-him-as-number-two-3698695

[Paulie Walnuts]

None of us have interviewd Johnson or JDT. Twice for that matter. What if JDT said something in his second interview that sounded alarm bells? Why are people getting outraged about Johnson? Maybe his vision and plan is better than JDT's? Maybe he's willing to relocate and JDT isnt? Maybe Johnson is willing to commit loger? We have absolutley no idea what's been said in these interviews. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the board are appointing Johnson out of the best interests of the club because he came across better?

I don’t think anyone is doubting that’ll have been the boards interpretation of the interviews. It’s not like people are claiming the board are doing this to wind us up.

The worry would be that the board have made alot of bad calls recently and the club is going backwards at an alarming rate of knots. On paper this looks to me like it could be another bad call, obviously depending on their reasons for going for LJ over JDT.

[GloryGlory]

Seems strange that nobody else has reported this yet....

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-wins-race-to-be-next-hibs-manager-with-former-hearts-team-mate-set-to-join-him-as-number-two-3698695

[GordonHFC]

All manager appointments come with uncertainty. Look what happened to Jock Stein and Brian Clough, arguably 2 of the best club managers around in their day. Some managers fit clubs and vice versa so let's just get behind whomever is appointed. GGTTH

[One Day Soon]

That's weird, because all I've seen is promotion, our highest prem points total, Europe, 3rd place, punctuated by a couple of midtable finishes. Which is well above our average

Whereas I'm looking at utterly 5hite football, a squad that needs a comprehensive clear out, season ticket sales which appear to be diminishing, a club that appears to lack leadership at every level and an absolutely massive trade-down in the quality of players between our cup winning side and what we have now. And of course allowing Hearts to regains ascendancy in the capital.

[nonshinyfinish]

Other news outlets running with the LJ story.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-wins-race-to-be-next-hibs-manager-with-former-hearts-team-mate-set-to-join-him-as-number-two-3698695

That reads like it's come from the club (the bits about being viewed as less of a gamble etc), so I imagine that's that.

[JohnM1875]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-wins-race-to-be-next-hibs-manager-with-former-hearts-team-mate-set-to-join-him-as-number-two-3698695

Johnson seen as less of a gamble than a manager who has won two division titles and managed Champions Legue group stage football. **** me, Hibs.

[04Sauzee]

Other news outlets running with the LJ story.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-wins-race-to-be-next-hibs-manager-with-former-hearts-team-mate-set-to-join-him-as-number-two-3698695
Tomorrow it is then 😁
Then we can start with the rebuild.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Johnson seen as less of a gamble than a manager who has won two division titles and managed Champions Legue group stage football. **** me, Hibs.

If that’s their reasoning for this decision then that is ****ing grim.

[Dmas]

Johnson seen as less of a gamble than a manager who has won two division titles and managed Champions Legue group stage football. **** me, Hibs.

He’s never managed in UK and has had the biggest budget in the country at his last club not really compatible with hibs is it

[McGruber]

Regardless of the rights and wrongs about the appointment of LJ (if he gets appointed) and the perception of him and his demeanour it won't change the reaction of the fans in general.

Unfortunately this means season ticket sales will be the poorest in years and have a knock on affect on player budget. Less player budget usually means less quality. It's not an appointment that is or has generated much of any excitement so he'll start on the back foot.
It's not the be all and end all, he can sign well, have the team playing well and get results. If that happens the fans get onside and it all builds again. Easier said than done and harder to acheive I imagine than a popular choice coming in and the place getting a lift with everyone united and pulling in the same direction.

If he gets it good luck to him, he'll need it. Hoping it is still JDT or a.n. other though. I think LJ would be a short lived disaster but if he is the man then I'll back him and hope to be wrong

[JohnM1875]

He’s never managed in UK and has had the biggest budget in the country at his last club not really compatible with hibs is it

Aye cause Johnson hasn't spent a load of money in the jobs he's been at?

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s never managed in UK and has had the biggest budget in the country at his last club not really compatible with hibs is it

And Johnson has never managed in Scotland and had the biggest budget at his previous club. He never managed to win the league.

[GloryGlory]

That reads like it's come from the club (the bits about being viewed as less of a gamble etc), so I imagine that's that.

Nothing yet on Patrick McPartlin's twitter and he seems to be the EEN/Scotsman journalist with the best connections at ER.

[Smartie]

If it's him then it's interesting that Johnson has been the next manager but one after Ross at 2 different clubs.

Ross split the Sunderland support, his results had been better than a few of his predecessors but ultimately he didn't get the job done. Part of the criticism he took was of his pragmatic style, far too many draws and big game failures.

Johnson was considered to be a bit of an antidote to that, as someone with an attacking style.

Maybe we're going for him for the same reasons that Sunderland did?

[JamesHFC]

I’m actually quite excited by the appointment. JDT would have been interesting and I think everyone would have bought into it but majority of board members wanted Johnson. He impressed and his cv isn’t awful.

This is very much make or break though, if this appointment goes wrong then I think the people in charge will find it difficult to recover and they will see financial loss.

Let’s back Lee and get behind the team. We could be set to be part of an exciting chapter in Hibernian history.

[SHODAN]

Urrrggrgggghhhhhhh

[SteveHFC]

That’ll be that then.

[JohnM1875]

If it's him then it's interesting that Johnson has been the next manager but one after Ross at 2 different clubs.

Ross split the Sunderland support, his results had been better than a few of his predecessors but ultimately he didn't get the job done. Part of the criticism he took was of his pragmatic style, far too many draws and big game failures.

Johnson was considered to be a bit of an antidote to that, as someone with an attacking style.

Maybe we're going for him for the same reasons that Sunderland did?

To underachieve? We're already doing that without Johnson.

[Sergio sledge]

That reads like it's come from the club (the bits about being viewed as less of a gamble etc), so I imagine that's that.

I think that this bit could be a key part of it: "looking for someone to commit to a long-term project." Perhaps JDT was pretty open that he saw Hibs as a quick stepping stone to a job in England leaving the board in the position that they could be after a new manager next summer again?

Lee Johnson, having already built a profile in England doesn't need Hibs as much from that point of view so maybe he gave the board more assurances that (provided he is successful) he would be here for the longer term*.


*longer term being relative given that managers have an average job length of something ridiculous like 1.5 years.