Next Hibs Manager

[Amit]

Need someone with the following traits/experience:

- Has managed/played at a high level in football (knows what it takes to succeed at high level, also gains respect from players given pedigree)
- They or their No.2 have a connection to the Scottish game (knows what is needed to win in this league be it players / tactics / style of football)
- Proven managerial experience in winning cups/promotion/qualification for European competitions (Knows what is needed to deliver such objectives for the Club)


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[Mcbizz1998]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8731709/hibs-bid-celtic-john-kennedy-shaun-maloney/

This would confirm that RG and BK have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

What exactly would be the difference between Maloney and Kennedy? Both ex Celtic, good at arranging cones for top players, never managed, never dealt with a budget like at Hibs. I mean it’s basically the same person!

Hopefully it’s nonsense from The Sun.

[madhatter]

I must be picking you up wrong. You’re not suggesting, with your last sentence, that Hibs employ managers to suit Celtic fans that have a ‘soft spot for Hibs’ (whatever the insignificant number of those strange people might be)?

I'm certainly wondering why we end up with so many ex-Celtic players as our managers, especially those that had no real connection to Hibs. Mowbray, Stubbs, Lennon, Maloney...

In fairness, 3/4 I've listed actually had decent enough records. Still curious to why it is so common.

[Aldo]

Knutsun, Delia or Sean Dyche??


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[LewysGot2]

Delia??


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Can she not just take BK back instead?

[Gordy M]

I'm certainly wondering why we end up with so many ex-Celtic players as our managers, especially those that had no real connection to Hibs. Mowbray, Stubbs, Lennon, Maloney...

In fairness, 3/4 I've listed actually had decent enough records. Still curious to why it is so common.

I would imagine its because over say the last 15 to 20 years Celtic have been the most successful club in Scotland. That in turn breeds people who are used to winning with higher standards possibly.....that makes them attractive to possible employers. Same reason that so many managers have come from Fergies time at Man Utd

[SteveHFC]

Jon Dahl Tommason without a club

Appoint him for this interview alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jt-a4T3bGg

[Callum_62]

This would confirm that RG and BK have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

What exactly would be the difference between Maloney and Kennedy? Both ex Celtic, good at arranging cones for top players, never managed, never dealt with a budget like at Hibs. I mean it’s basically the same person!

Hopefully it’s nonsense from The Sun.

Young and celtic connection

Your right, identical in every single way relating to running a football team



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[Gordy M]

I would like someome who dosnt underestimate Scottish Football. I think too many managers come to Scotland with the wrong impression of the football here, and the result is signing players who are not good enough or the style of football doesnt suit them. Ive lost count the amount of decent footballers who sign for Scottish teams and just fail.....for whatever reason. I want someine who can have a style and players who can handle the football up here.

[bingo70]

And how would that be any different to SM 🥴

They’re two entirely different people? Just because they’ve got pretty vaguely similar coaching experience (in fact, they don’t really actually) that doesn’t mean they’d be the same person.

That said I will be really disappointed and take a pretty big tantrum if he is appointed.

[stalbanshibby]

Can she not just take BK back instead?
:thumbsup:

[Mcbizz1998]

They’re two entirely different people? Just because they’ve got pretty vaguely similar coaching experience (in fact, they don’t really actually) that doesn’t mean they’d be the same person.

That said I will be really disappointed and take a pretty big tantrum if he is appointed.

Yeah, not the same person but a similar professional profile. We just took a massive gamble on a young coach with no managerial experience and we just sacked him.

If our answer to who comes next is another young coach with no managerial experience then I will be extremely worried.

[bingo70]

Yeah, not the same person but a similar professional profile. We just took a massive gamble on a young coach with no managerial experience and we just sacked him.

If our answer to who comes next is another young coach with no managerial experience then I will be extremely worried.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t want Kennedy.

Just because one inexperienced coach wasn’t good enough, doesn’t mean they all will be.

[dp00]

Alan Stubbs ?


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[Northernhibee]

Alan Stubbs ?


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Long as it’s all three from their time at us.

[Since452]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8731709/hibs-bid-celtic-john-kennedy-shaun-maloney/

I'd be stunned. Weegie media love their ex Celtic players eh

[SHODAN]

Scottish sun saying we are lining up a third bid for Celtic assistant John Kennedy….

Aye let's replace a young coach with no managerial experience with... A young coach with no managerial experience.

Lol

[Heisenberg]

We wouldn’t go for another rookie manager after Maloney. Would make absolutely no sense.

[Paul1642]

I’m actually quite exited at the possibility of Kevin Thompson. Yes, he left us for the huns but most of our best players leave us, and many for the old firm. The only difference is that he was desperate for the move and made a few daft comments. He was a young laddie at the time. He then returned and put in a shift for us at an important time.

He has been doing very well with Kelty. I see that some people are saying anyone could but we have all seen time and time again that a team with bigger resources can fail to achieve without a good manger. (Recent examples are Barcelona under Koeman, the whole EPL the season Leicester won, Juventus last season). Plus he can beat St Johnstone which is a big tick in the box for me ;)

He very well might have his eye on the Rangers job but that would require him to do well enough with us to get their interest which is fine with me, and might even result in him turning down another move to bide his time. We are kidding ourselves if we think any manger is taking out job without their eye on a bigger move. It fills me with more excitement than the likes of Kennedy and Martindale.

Unless we’re are gonna pull a big name out of the bag I think he’s a pretty decent option.

Lennon also excites me however I am well aware that’s because I loved his last spell here, and that it likely wouldn’t be like that a second time round.

[Hibs90]

I’m actually quite exited at the possibility of Kevin Thompson. Yes, he left us for the huns but most of our best players leave us, and many for the old firm. The only difference is that he was desperate for the move and made a few daft comments. He was a young laddie at the time. He then returned and put in a shift for us at an important time.

He has been doing very well with Kelty. I see that some people are saying anyone could but we have all seen time and time again that a team with bigger resources can fail to achieve without a good manger. (Recent examples are Barcelona under Koeman, the whole EPL the season Leicester won, Juventus last season). Plus he can beat St Johnstone which is a big tick in the box for me ;)

He very well might have his eye on the Rangers job but that would require him to do well enough with us to get their interest which is fine with me, and might even result in him turning down another move to bide his time. We are kidding ourselves if we think any manger is taking out job without their eye on a bigger move. It fills me with more excitement than the likes of Kennedy and Martindale.

Unless we’re are gonna pull a big name out of the bag I think he’s a pretty decent option.

Lennon also excites me however I am well aware that’s because I loved his last spell here, and that it likely wouldn’t be like that a second time round.


It's not a "might" he's been telling everyone possible. He can GTF.

[Since452]

This would confirm that RG and BK have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

What exactly would be the difference between Maloney and Kennedy? Both ex Celtic, good at arranging cones for top players, never managed, never dealt with a budget like at Hibs. I mean it’s basically the same person!

Hopefully it’s nonsense from The Sun.

Makes absolutely no sense. Like you say like for like. Why has nobody else snapped up this football visionary Kennedy yet?

[GreenPJ]

Would anyone take Tony Mowbray if he became available?

[Since452]

Would anyone take Tony Mowbray if he became available?

Absolutely. He's had a good career.

[Paul1642]

Would anyone take Tony Mowbray if he became available?

As long as somebody else signs the goalkeepers :)

[CapitalGreen]

Don’t get me wrong I don’t want Kennedy.

Just because one inexperienced coach wasn’t good enough, doesn’t mean they all will be.

Agreed. I also don’t want Kennedy but I don’t think there is much comparison between the 2 other than both being ex-Celtic. My main opposition to Maloney’s appointment was that he had no experience working at first team level within a club. He had no experience of the day to day work involved managing/coaching a first team squad through a season. The same can’t be said for Kennedy.

[GreenCastle]

Coincidence?

https://www.footballinsider247.com/stoke-city-boss-michael-oneill-fighting-for-his-job-exclusive/

Any Stoke fans able to comment about what’s happened ?

Think this is a fair possibility if he gets sacked.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would anyone take Tony Mowbray if he became available?

Are we expecting him to become available?

If he did he’d be my number one choice.

[Dr_Regal]

As a Rovers fan too, Mowbray will be 100% available in a few weeks. Times up at Ewood park, been there too long.
Only 58, so has another few years left.
He fit with Hibs and I would have no doubt he’d sort us out, and would come back. Fans would be behind him I think

[Paul1642]

As a Rovers fan too, Mowbray will be 100% available in a few weeks. Times up at Ewood park, been there too long.
Only 58, so has another few years left.
He fit with Hibs and I would have no doubt he’d sort us out, and would come back. Fans would be behind him I think

I would be very much behind this. Can’t think of many who wouldn’t be keen.

[H18 SFR]

Need someone like Jack Ross that gets us finishing third and regularly getting to semi and finals at Hampden.

[Since452]

Need someone like Jack Ross that gets us finishing third and regularly getting to semi and finals at Hampden.

As much as I thought he was a good manager, I don't want him back. Not so soon anyway. Hopefully we move forward.

[Willis1875]

Was there not news recently of David Unsworth looking to step into management

[Paul1642]

Need someone like Jack Ross that gets us finishing third and regularly getting to semi and finals at Hampden.

Whilst I have always believed we should never have sacked Ross, re appointing him right now would be an utter shambles.

[JamesHFC]

Whilst I have always believed we should never have sacked Ross, re appointing him right now would be an utter shambles.

No chance of it happening thankfully.

[04Sauzee]

Was there not news recently of David Unsworth looking to step into management

I'm sure Stubbs wanted him as his assistant at Hibs but Unsworth decided against it. Off course I have been known to be wrong 😁

[04Sauzee]

Had another look to see what the Odds were for next Hibs manager and just about had a funny turn when the following popped up but those were the early odds after Lennon was removed from his post 👀


Gordon Strachan at 5/2 with SkyBet
Alan Stubbs at 3/1 with SkyBet
John Doolan at 4/1 with SkyBet
Eddie May at 8/1 with SkyBet
Gary Holt at 10/1 with SkyBet
Martin Canning at 12/1 with SkyBet
Steve Clarke at 12/1 with SkyBet
Owen Coyle at 14/1 with SkyBet

[JimBHibees]

This would confirm that RG and BK have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

What exactly would be the difference between Maloney and Kennedy? Both ex Celtic, good at arranging cones for top players, never managed, never dealt with a budget like at Hibs. I mean it’s basically the same person!

Hopefully it’s nonsense from The Sun.

Sun just make stuff up

[WhileTheChief..]

Would anyone take Tony Mowbray if he became available?

I liked Mowbray, but he seemed like a broken man when he left Celtic.

No idea how he's got on since but would rather have someone else I think.

[S4uzee]

Need someone like Jack Ross that gets us finishing third and regularly getting to semi and finals at Hampden.

And produce one of the worst cup final performances ever

[bingo70]

David Unsworth quit his job at Everton yesterday to pursue a managerial career himself.

There’s obviously a Stubbs link there and someone we considered before. Could he be an option?

[H18 SFR]

And produce one of the worst cup final performances ever

Surely you’d want a strong performance in a final?

[wookie70]

Hopefully not Kevin Thomson. He isn't that experienced and hard to judge his record when Kelty are by far the biggest spenders in that league. He also only has eyes for The Thes and he would be lucky to have half the support rooting for him before a ball is kicked.

I don't think we need to be in a rush relegation would need a further collapsed and SDG has shown he can get a tune out of these players. The summer may see some decent managers become available but most importantly the CEO and owner need to have a plan and that to me to be the first thing that needs fixed.

[One Day Soon]

Are we expecting him to become available?

If he did he’d be my number one choice.


Any from the following and I'd be very happy:

Stubbs
Mowbray
O'Neill
Pirlo

[Dazzjw1875]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

[H18 SFR]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

Got a link?

[One Day Soon]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

I sincerely hope so. I don't really want to move from farce to tragedy.

[Dazzjw1875]

Got a link?

I'll try!

https://twitter.com/TheHibsAreHere/status/1516418993912954891?t=Gu0TcrDdHKK8AjympINAOQ&s=19

[Heisenberg]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

The pictures the guy used are from an article written in 2015.

[Alex Trager]

Got a link?

The Hibs Are Here! 90s Hibs (@TheHibsAreHere) Tweeted:
Sam Allardyce at Edinburgh Airport today, right after #Hibs sacked their manager. Coincidence?

https://t.co/nQEvgxIEEz

[bingo70]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

The guy posting that is a decent twitter account to follow as they post some good old hibs stuff.

They do enjoy a wind up though so I wouldn’t take it too seriously.

[Paulie Walnuts]

David Unsworth quit his job at Everton yesterday to pursue a managerial career himself.

There’s obviously a Stubbs link there and someone we considered before. Could he be an option?

Why is Unsworth being mentioned? Does he have a great reputation or something?

If he does I wonder if there’s any chance he’d come in with Stubbs as assistant..

[Dazzjw1875]

The pictures the guy used are from an article written in 2015.

Oh ok sorry I thought it was actually today oh well jist another rumout then haha

[Box 17]

The guy posting that is a decent twitter account to follow as they post some good old hibs stuff.

They do enjoy a wind up though so I wouldn’t take it too seriously.

Big Scam

[A Hi-Bee]

Just seen posted Sam allardyce had landed at edin Airport earlier his pics are on twitter, could it just be a coincidence?

He must have just got there as Kevin Thomshun was leaving to get back onto the number 1 bus.

[bingo70]

Why is Unsworth being mentioned? Does he have a great reputation or something?

If he does I wonder if there’s any chance he’d come in with Stubbs as assistant..

Cos I’m a saddo with too much time on my hands and frantically investigating every possible option we could consider…..

Speaking of which, just a coincidence that Daniel ****e, who was at Norwich with Kensell, recently became unemployed as he was managing a Russian club?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_****e

[Tambo]

I see Kennedy was favorite a few hours ago according to the Glasgow times.

I really hope they don't rush into anything.

[gbhibby]

Get Steve Clarke

[brianmc]

Get Steve Clarke

Talk me through your sales pitch to him.

[bigwheel]

Talk me through your sales pitch to him.

Steve, take the job - we’ll fire you in four months ..you’ll be back in your a Scotland gig in time for The World Cup !

[madhatter]

Talk me through your sales pitch to him.

We'll sack you in time for you to return to Scotland NT for major tournament?

[bingo70]

Talk me through your sales pitch to him.

Same as it is for Knutsen.

“Just get him”

[leith lynx]

Cos I’m a saddo with too much time on my hands and frantically investigating every possible option we could consider…..

Speaking of which, just a coincidence that Daniel ****e, who was at Norwich with Kensell, recently became unemployed as he was managing a Russian club?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_****e
Good call, always intrigued me has Daniel F. got a face like Les Dawson but talks like a German Larry Grayson, would be a good manager for us if possible.

[Aldo]

Same as it is for Knutsen.

“Just get him”

Yip that’s it for me.

Say mate we’ll give you £3 million transfer budget but if you sell folk it’ll be more.

Simple really [emoji2957]


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[LaMotta]

Good call, always intrigued me has Daniel F. got a face like Les Dawson but talks like a German Larry Grayson, would be a good manager for us if possible.


:hilarious

[GreenCastle]

We'll sack you in time for you to return to Scotland NT for major tournament?

Sounds like Maloney - probably get his job back at Belgium before the World Cup in November.

Unsworth did some stuff with Scottish FA a while back and was quite impressive. Not sure though.

Maybe a Mowbray type more suitable ?

Ideally you want to find a manager doing well but wants the next step up but needs a decent amount of experience as they need to be able to manage a club of Hibs size and the pressure with it.

[Kavinho]

SDG.

And stick with him..

[Lago]

Alan Stubbs ?


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Here we go

[Lago]

Had another look to see what the Odds were for next Hibs manager and just about had a funny turn when the following popped up but those were the early odds after Lennon was removed from his post 👀


Gordon Strachan at 5/2 with SkyBet
Alan Stubbs at 3/1 with SkyBet
John Doolan at 4/1 with SkyBet
Eddie May at 8/1 with SkyBet
Gary Holt at 10/1 with SkyBet
Martin Canning at 12/1 with SkyBet
Steve Clarke at 12/1 with SkyBet
Owen Coyle at 14/1 with SkyBet
Not one of those, not one, excites me at all.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Seen Jonathon Woodgate mentioned..

Done a terrible job at Middlesbrough but more recently done a pretty decent job at Bournemouth albeit over a short period.

Think he’d be a no from me tbh.

From one injury prone centre half to another, Ledley King is assistant at Spurs. A cracking footballer who’s spent his whole career at a team renowned for attacking football…

[J-C]

Had another look to see what the Odds were for next Hibs manager and just about had a funny turn when the following popped up but those were the early odds after Lennon was removed from his post 👀


Gordon Strachan at 5/2 with SkyBet
Alan Stubbs at 3/1 with SkyBet
John Doolan at 4/1 with SkyBet
Eddie May at 8/1 with SkyBet
Gary Holt at 10/1 with SkyBet
Martin Canning at 12/1 with SkyBet
Steve Clarke at 12/1 with SkyBet
Owen Coyle at 14/1 with SkyBet


Where do they get this nonsense from?
Strachan probably won't go into management again, Eddie May hates management, Martin effin Canning, Stubbs and Doolan are yesterday's men and the rest are a joke.

[leith lynx]

Not one of those, not one, excites me at all.

Think you are stuck in the past!

[Scorrie]

Wouldn’t appointing Unsworth just be another managerial novice? I really think we need some experience of head coach to be honest

[Fuzzywuzzy]

SDG.

And stick with him..

So an unproven coach/manager like the one we got rid of? Remember what happened to sauzee?

[bingo70]

Where do they get this nonsense from?
Strachan probably won't go into management again, Eddie May hates management, Martin effin Canning, Stubbs and Doolan are yesterday's men and the rest are a joke.

That’s an old list from when we sacked Neil Lennon, don’t worry

[Musselbound]

So an unproven coach/manager like the one we got rid of? Remember what happened to sauzee?

Think he did OK the last time as caretaker. Why not give him the remaining 5 games and see what he can do?

[J-C]

That’s an old list from when we sacked Neil Lennon, don’t worry


:aok:

[Alex Trager]

Same as it is for Knutsen.

“Just get him”

And when we do, tell everyone you know to stick the Kettle on because the Hibs are back

[Coco Bryce]

I don't care who or what the next manager is as long as they have us playing decent football and winning games. There are players at Hibs I can't stand so makes no difference to me regarding the manager also.

[1875Sean]

Had another look to see what the Odds were for next Hibs manager and just about had a funny turn when the following popped up but those were the early odds after Lennon was removed from his post 👀


Gordon Strachan at 5/2 with SkyBet
Alan Stubbs at 3/1 with SkyBet
John Doolan at 4/1 with SkyBet
Eddie May at 8/1 with SkyBet
Gary Holt at 10/1 with SkyBet
Martin Canning at 12/1 with SkyBet
Steve Clarke at 12/1 with SkyBet
Owen Coyle at 14/1 with SkyBet

Would take Strachan in a heartbeat

[Is It On....]

Wouldn’t appointing Unsworth just be another managerial novice? I really think we need some experience of head coach to be honest

I got slated for saying it last week, but the key appointment is a Head of Recruitment ["so you keep telling us"] and a Head Coach that is willing to work under that structure. If we get the Head of Recruitment right, everything else will follow. Ffs, even Robbie Replay looks a decent manager with a good Recruitment team behind him!!

[Kavinho]

So an unproven coach/manager like the one we got rid of? Remember what happened to sauzee?

Yep.
A guy who knows what it means.
Back him, support him and give him the tools to do it well

[Unseen work]

Here’s a couple of left field names

Liam Manning
Tony Popovic
Kevin Muscat
Patrick Kisnorbo
Jonathan Woodgate

[Paulie Walnuts]

Franco Foda

[Callum_62]

Interesting that the club confirmed Gray will be in charge for the next 5 weeks


Surley we will have someone lined up by that time?

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[RIP]

I got slated for saying it last week, but the key appointment is a Head of Recruitment ["so you keep telling us"] and a Head Coach that is willing to work under that structure. If we get the Head of Recruitment right, everything else will follow. Ffs, even Robbie Replay looks a decent manager with a good Recruitment team behind him!!

Or John Collins as Director of Football?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Interesting that the club confirmed Gray will be in charge for the next 5 weeks


Surley we will have someone lined up by that time?

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The right decision imo.

The new man would be off to a bad start with this squad.

Don’t let him be associated with this lot and have a go at getting some new players in before he gets started.

[SHODAN]

Interesting that the club confirmed Gray will be in charge for the next 5 weeks


Surley we will have someone lined up by that time?

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The new manager will begin when this season ends. I suspect he'll be announced well before then.

[ahibby]

Ogs

[Callum_62]

The new manager will begin when this season ends. I suspect he'll be announced well before then.Yeah, that's what I'm getting at

I'd want someone who knows there getting the job seeing what's what over the final 2 or 3 games

It will be interesting if we do know who it is ahead of the season ending or not

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[BigKev]

See a lot of folk mentioning JC as a possible DoF. What’s that all about?

Terrible man manager, hopeless eye for a player, controlling and argumentative and walked out on us just prior to a tough run of fixtures.

I want him nowhere near Easter Road.

[Bostonhibby]

Talk me through your sales pitch to him.Meet Ben, he's getting us vegan sausage rolls .....

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[bingo70]

See a lot of folk mentioning JC as a possible DoF. What’s that all about?

Terrible man manager, hopeless eye for a player, controlling and argumentative and walked out on us just prior to a tough run of fixtures.

I want him nowhere near Easter Road.

Think it’s the law that it needs to be mentioned every time we are looking for a manager.

[GreenCastle]

Interesting that the club confirmed Gray will be in charge for the next 5 weeks


Surley we will have someone lined up by that time?

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Took us about 10 days to bring Maloney in. Who knows if he was approached before.

Nearly 8 months to replace LD with Ben.

[GreenCastle]

The right decision imo.

The new man would be off to a bad start with this squad.

Don’t let him be associated with this lot and have a go at getting some new players in before he gets started.

More managers also possibly available at the end of the season.

Issue maybe contracts though of current group.

[Helensburghhibs]

Whats solkjar upto?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Can’t see Man Utd sticking with Ragnick, likes a project apparently as well


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[Jones28]

Scottish sun saying we are lining up a third bid for Celtic assistant John Kennedy….

Someone we need to make three attempts to bring to ER is not someone we want to be signing. Look at what happened to the last guy we approached.

[Scotty Leither]

I wonder if John Doolan may go for it?

[Hermit Crab]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220419/b0cca09c80a317d9397c0443f3aae6ca.jpg

[Wellbankhibby]

Would take Strachan in a heartbeat
I always wanted Strachan but my preference at this time would be Michael O'NEIL knows Hibs well and likes to play attacking football. I really don't get people wanting McInnes

[angus hibby]

Stoke may well try and get Dyche in. If O’Neill becomes available I want him.

Managing Hibs is something O’Neill wants to do before he retires.

[bigwheel]

Managing Hibs is something O’Neill wants to do before he retires.

I still don’t see what O’Neill has done as a club manager which suggests he would be remotely good for us ….

[Wellbankhibby]

Managing Hibs is something O’Neill wants to do before he retires.
I like Michael ONeil he has experience of Managing international football teams and English did he not manage a scottish team as well.
Dont forget he played for us and Knows what kind of football our fans like to see.
He is my first choice but equally happy with Gordon Strachan.
Its not tat long ago that Michael Oneils stock as a Manager was very high.
As for gordon Strachan I think the players would respect him and would follow out his instructions.

[IberianHibernian]

Took us about 10 days to bring Maloney in. Who knows if he was approached before.

Nearly 8 months to replace LD with Ben.I always thought that club heard Maloney was available and had great references for him ( we`ll never know if that was justified or not at least to manage us ) but had to sort out contract details including coaching team and wanted to wait till after LC final . I suspect they have someone lined up now otherwise today`s decision is even more worrying . Maybe someone under contract elsewhere - imagine we play Killie in playoff and McInnes is target .

[bingo70]

I still don’t see what O’Neill has done as a club manager which suggests he would be remotely good for us ….

He did a very good job for his club in Ireland, Shamrock Rovers I think?

I wouldn’t be disappointed with O’Neill but I wouldn’t label him as an attacking manager.

[Lago]

Interesting that the club confirmed Gray will be in charge for the next 5 weeks


Surley we will have someone lined up by that time?

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Will he be sacked if he doesn't win his 1st 2 games?

[SteveHFC]

According to the Sun, Ron sacked Maloney amid fears the club could get relegated.

https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1516531541719011328?s=21&t=BUArM40kRIjbDTro6vuq6Q

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-manager-search-for-experienced-replacement-begins-with-owner-ron-gordon-set-to-explain-shaun-maloney-sacking-3660017

Zoom meeting tomorrow with press

He and Kensell will draw up a shortlist (doesn’t sound like Kensell sacked)

Dont want another rookie manager

[JamesHFC]

According to the Sun, Ron sacked Maloney amid fears the club could get relegated.

https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1516531541719011328?s=21&t=BUArM40kRIjbDTro6vuq6Q

Argument between Maloney & Kensell mentioned.

[Unseen work]

According to the Sun, Ron sacked Maloney amid fears the club could get relegated.

https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1516531541719011328?s=21&t=BUArM40kRIjbDTro6vuq6Q

Im glad they shared my fears about being relegated.

”And the former Celtic (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8731620/celtic-oluwayemi-squares-up-rangers-miller-glasgow/) player’s manner with staff around the training ground was cited as yet another cause for concern.”

The above quote is very very interesting and I wonder what they mean by it.

I also wonder who he was wanting to offer contracts to/try sign that the board were against and wouldn’t sanction.

[RIP]

See a lot of folk mentioning JC as a possible DoF. What’s that all about?

Terrible man manager, hopeless eye for a player, controlling and argumentative and walked out on us just prior to a tough run of fixtures.

I want him nowhere near Easter Road.

John resigned on the day of the opening of the East Mains Training Centre over a running argument with the board who resisted his ambitious signing targets. His methods were backed by the hard-working and disciplined individuals in the squad and opposed by a vocal minority.

Put simply, his vision for Hibs was too far-reaching for the culture pervading Easter Road at that time. And for most of the past fifteen years, our underachieving has justified his resignation.

[1875Sean]

I always wanted Strachan but my preference at this time would be Michael O'NEIL knows Hibs well and likes to play attacking football. I really don't get people wanting McInnes

Would be a good shout but I can’t see him taking a wage cut to leave Stoke to come to us

[JamesHFC]

Im glad they shared my fears about being relegated.

”And the former Celtic (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8731620/celtic-oluwayemi-squares-up-rangers-miller-glasgow/) player’s manner with staff around the training ground was cited as yet another cause for concern.”

The above quote is very very interesting and I wonder what they mean by it.

I also wonder who he was wanting to offer contracts to/try sign that the board were against and wouldn’t sanction.

Robert Snodgrass

[Unseen work]

Robert Snodgrass

Heard something about this?

He was linked at the end of the window a few folk kept saying we were still to sign an out of contract experienced players.

With him signing for Luton though it makes you wonder how much money he was wanting, I also think I read he never wanted to come to Scotland?

Was Maloney naive in how much he was expecting to get?

[JamesHFC]

Heard something about this?

He was linked at the end of the window a few folk kept saying we were still to sign an out of contract experienced players.

With him signing for Luton though it makes you wonder how much money he was wanting, I also think I read he never wanted to come to Scotland?

Was Maloney naive in how much he was expecting to get?

There was definite interest.

[ekhibee]

I'd love to see Michael O'Neill as manager now that Petrie has left Hibs, I remember hearing a story that he applied for the Hibs job years ago but didnt get it because Levein had a 'quiet word' with Petrie during SFA business and made out O'Neill was an alcoholic/heavy drinker. Dunno if that's true but I heard it from different sources.

[Mcbizz1998]

Someone we need to make three attempts to bring to ER is not someone we want to be signing. Look at what happened to the last guy we approached.

I don’t want him but tbf I think the approaches are being knocked back by Celtic as opposed to Kennedy rejecting them?

[1875Sean]

I'd love to see Michael O'Neill as manager now that Petrie has left Hibs, I remember hearing a story that he applied for the Hibs job years ago but didnt get it because Levein had a 'quiet word' with Petrie during SFA business and made out O'Neill was an alcoholic/heavy drinker. Dunno if that's true but I heard it from different sources.

He was on a decent wage at Northern Ireland, remember Scotland couldn’t match it, so must be on more at Stoke, no chance he’s coming here unless he gets the sack

[Mcbizz1998]

That’s an old list from when we sacked Neil Lennon, don’t worry

Was going to say - I can’t find any market for
Hibs manager on Sky bet.

[bingo70]

Was going to say - I can’t find any market for
Hibs manager on Sky bet.

Skybet don’t offer odds on Scottish managerial appointments now I don’t think, they certainly never when we appointed Maloney.

McBookie probably your best chance now.

[Hutchie]

Graeme Alexander seems to fit nicely. Don't know his contract terms and our affordability to take from motherwell.

[Stevie Reid]

Graeme Alexander seems to fit nicely. Don't know his contract terms and our affordability to take from motherwell.

Was impressed with him before the turn of the year. Motherwell have pretty much been as bad as us since the winter break, I think. Know they lost their top scorer, but still.

[LaMotta]

Graeme Alexander seems to fit nicely. Don't know his contract terms and our affordability to take from motherwell.

Fair few Motherwell fans want him gone. That has to ring alarm bells.

Sacked from his 3 previous jobs- Fleetwood, Scunthorpe and Salford. Whilst he may have been unlucky in his last 2 sackings, he hasn't really been a roaring success anywhere either.

[MWHIBBIES]

Graeme Alexander seems to fit nicely. Don't know his contract terms and our affordability to take from motherwell.

Not really wanting a guy who has lost twice at home to the 2 guys we've just sacked. In fact, only Motherwell, St Johnstone and Dundee haven't beaten us this season. He's pretty hopeless.

[BigKev]

John resigned on the day of the opening of the East Mains Training Centre over a running argument with the board who resisted his ambitious signing targets. His methods were backed by the hard-working and disciplined individuals in the squad and opposed by a vocal minority.

Put simply, his vision for Hibs was too far-reaching for the culture pervading Easter Road at that time. And for most of the past fifteen years, our underachieving has justified his resignation.

“Ambitious?” Suicidal more like 😂 He wanted us to sign Naismith for £2m!

Think you’re re-writing history. JC walked when he had his first string of bad results. The football was no longer attractive and he left us with the likes of Makalamby, Gatheussi, Noubissie, Kerr, O’Brien and Morais.

If his vision was that great another club would have taken a punt on him by now.

[Jones28]

Not really wanting a guy who has lost twice at home to the 2 guys we've just sacked. In fact, only Motherwell, St Johnstone and Dundee haven't beaten us this season. He's pretty hopeless.

So hopeless they got a top 6 finish.

[Jones28]

“Ambitious?” Suicidal more like 😂 He wanted us to sign Naismith for £2m!

Think you’re re-writing history. JC walked when he had his first string of bad results. The football was no longer attractive and he left us with the likes of Makalamby, Gatheussi, Noubissie, Kerr, O’Brien and Morais.

If his vision was that great another club would have taken a punt on him by now.

JC walked away when he realised those players you listed were the height of the boards ambitions. We just bagged the record transfer fee paid within Scotland for a player - a record that still stands 15 years later - and he wasn’t given enough of the pie.

[Willis1875]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-manager-search-for-experienced-replacement-begins-with-owner-ron-gordon-set-to-explain-shaun-maloney-sacking-3660017

Zoom meeting tomorrow with press

He and Kensell will draw up a shortlist (doesn’t sound like Kensell sacked)

Dont want another rookie manager

We have gone down the tried and tested route aswell and those went pear shaped…see Heckingbottom and Butcher.
I’m not against another unproven manager as long as he has a bit of an aura and swagger about him,Maloney didn’t

[BigKev]

JC walked away when he realised those players you listed were the height of the boards ambitions. We just bagged the record transfer fee paid within Scotland for a player - a record that still stands 15 years later - and he wasn’t given enough of the pie.

Aye, because the board scouted and recommended them to be signed right enough.

Nothing wrong with ambition but JC was living in cloud cuckoo land if he believed Hibs would sanction a fee of that size.

He was disliked by the majority of players and supporters at the end but let’s forget that because his ambitions were greater than the board’s?

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have gone down the tried and tested route aswell and those went pear shaped…see Heckingbottom and Butcher.
I’m not against another unproven manager as long as he has a bit of an aura and swagger about him,Maloney didn’t

Yup.

Aberdeen appointed a rookie in Glass. He was crap. They appointed someone with experience in Goodwin. He’s also been crap.

We just need a good manager.

[Hibernian Verse]

So hopeless they got a top 6 finish.

That's why we've sacked Maloney. Our remit is not finish top 6, it's challenge for 3/4.

[Tyler Durden]

One of my main worries re keeping Maloney was that he would re-sign Drey Wright and make the likes of Rocky permanent. Understandable if Kensell was reluctant to sanction that kind of thing.

The new manager will have a pretty clean slate now if we send all the kind back.

[Tyler Durden]

So hopeless they got a top 6 finish.

Good result for Alexander in the end but he should be nowhere near contention for the Hibs job.

[Tyler Durden]

JC walked away when he realised those players you listed were the height of the boards ambitions. We just bagged the record transfer fee paid within Scotland for a player - a record that still stands 15 years later - and he wasn’t given enough of the pie.

Alternatively he left when he realised he couldn’t get out of a 15 odd match spiral. Taking bizarre press conferences with Tommy Craig answering for him.

Collins couldn’t manage players

[flash]

With too much time on my hands I have been thinking about everything going on at the club.

It's my conclusion that both Ross and Maloney had to go and the owner should be applauded for recognising that. On the flip side Maloney should never have been appointed so it isn't all praise and well dones.

Over the course of the last 3 years I have either attended or watched on telly every game maybe bar one or two and it's almost always been a hard watch.

There have been some exceptions of course but, generally speaking, it's not been much fun.

Clearly covid has played a part in this with the lack of crowds but I sometimes wonder if that actually helped us a bit. Not sure the punters would been happy sitting through a lot of Jack Ross football where we often had less of the ball and played on the counter attack.

Where do we go from here? It all depends on the owner really. Is he still as emotionally invested as he appeared to be when he first arrived? The timing with the pandemic was incredible bad luck for him and I really hope he has the appetite to turn things around for us.

We will have hundreds interested in being our manager. Contrary to some people I don't think anyone at all will be put off by our recent hiring and firing. Quite the reverse in fact as anyone with the self confidence needed to be a top manager will see it as a massive opportunity.

The good news is, if we get this one right, things can turn incredibly quickly in football. A decent appointment allied with some exciting new players and the place can soon be vibrant and exciting again.

Obviously there are no guarantees but I always find it an exciting time waiting for a new manager to be paraded.

I quite like the thought of an old head like McInnes assisted by a potentially exciting young coach such as Scott Brown or Krvin Thomson.

We shall see.

[Springbank]

Given the player recruitment recently, now would be a good time to hire a Norwegian coach.
I can think of at least 3 I would be delighted with

[Lago]

:top marks
With too much time on my hands I have been thinking about everything going on at the club.

It's my conclusion that both Ross and Maloney had to go and the owner should be applauded for recognising that. On the flip side Maloney should never have been appointed so it isn't all praise and well dones.

Over the course of the last 3 years I have either attended or watched on telly every game maybe bar one or two and it's almost always been a hard watch.

There have been some exceptions of course but, generally speaking, it's not been much fun.

Clearly covid has played a part in this with the lack of crowds but I sometimes wonder if that actually helped us a bit. Not sure the punters would been happy sitting through a lot of Jack Ross football where we often had less of the ball and played on the counter attack.

Where do we go from here? It all depends on the owner really. Is he still as emotionally invested as he appeared to be when he first arrived? The timing with the pandemic was incredible bad luck for him and I really hope he has the appetite to turn things around for us.

We will have hundreds interested in being our manager. Contrary to some people I don't think anyone at all will be put off by our recent hiring and firing. Quite the reverse in fact as anyone with the self confidence needed to be a top manager will see it as a massive opportunity.

The good news is, if we get this one right, things can turn incredibly quickly in football. A decent appointment allied with some exciting new players and the place can soon be vibrant and exciting again.

Obviously there are no guarantees but I always find it an exciting time waiting for a new manager to be paraded.

I quite like the thought of an old head like McInnes assisted by a potentially exciting young coach such as Scott Brown or Krvin Thomson.

We shall see.

[Drewster]

JOHN DOOLAN - a man with a passion for our Club - him and his team doing a decent job in league 1 - should have good contacts re player network.

[Jones28]

Aye, because the board scouted and recommended them to be signed right enough.

Nothing wrong with ambition but JC was living in cloud cuckoo land if he believed Hibs would sanction a fee of that size.

He was disliked by the majority of players and supporters at the end but let’s forget that because his ambitions were greater than the board’s?

Well I can see it from his point of veiw, £4.5m comes in for Scott Brown and we replace him with Brian Kerr. The manager works within a budget which is sanctioned by the board, and they make signings accordingly.

[stalbanshibby]

Ron.

FWIW - I'd be happy with Malky Mackay. Done a decent job at Ross County with limited resources but has them playing like a team, with purpose. He's been in management for a while, and from what I can see has always produced teams that punch above their weight.

There was some sort of cloud hanging over him from a supposed racial slur (or something) when he was at Bristol, but that doesn't make him a bad manager.

I'd have thought the Hibs job is a step up from Ross County, but a question any new manager will ask is 'How much time will I get before you shaft me'.

I would be very unhappy (and wouldn't renew my season) if any of the following were appointed:

Kevin Thomson
Broony
John Kennedy
David Martindale
Derek McInnes

[madhatter]

Do all football fans have such a fascination with bringing ex players, coaches and managers back?

Funny as well that people jump over Stubbs and go to Thomson and Brown double act.

Genuinely think we're in a comedy show now.

Promote Beuzlin to manager and get Arpinon in as assistant with Sauzee as Director of Football, Latapy as the fitness coach, Dirk Lehmann in on social media and Garry O'Connor as translator.

Banter years are here anyway.

[ElginHibbie]

a supposed racial slur

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article7650784.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/mackay-texts.jpg

"supposed"

[Daily Hibs]

Ron.

FWIW - I'd be happy with Malky Mackay. Done a decent job at Ross County with limited resources but has them playing like a team, with purpose. He's been in management for a while, and from what I can see has always produced teams that punch above their weight.

There was some sort of cloud hanging over him from a supposed racial slur (or something) when he was at Bristol, but that doesn't make him a bad manager.

I'd have thought the Hibs job is a step up from Ross County, but a question any new manager will ask is 'How much time will I get before you shaft me'.

I would be very unhappy (and wouldn't renew my season) if any of the following were appointed:

Kevin Thomson
Broony
John Kennedy
David Martindale
Derek McInnes
Yes, I'd also be happy with Malky MacKay. He has the credentials to be Scotland Manager not just a club like ours. Has managed in English Premier League and is a no nonsense type of guy.

[Callum_62]

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article7650784.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/mackay-texts.jpg

"supposed"Aye but does that make him a bad manager?

[emoji849]

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[Greenbeard]

My main concern about some of the higher profile names being mentioned is whether someone who is used to coaching better players than we have at Hibs will be able cope with a drop to our relative level of mediocrity and get the best out of the players. I'd prefer someone who has an improving profile and has proven they can get the best out of mediocre players playing as a team. In that sense Martindale fits the bill. However, for SDG to get a second go as caretaker, he must be respected pretty well within the club. Pictures can tell a thousand lies but during the semi, and also seen subsequently in news reports, when SDG and SM were on the touchline discussing what to do after Newell's red card, it seemed that SDG was leading the conversation with SM mostly listening with his "thinking man's" pose and look. If we get a good run in the post-split games, SDG must be in with a good shout.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article7650784.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/mackay-texts.jpg

"supposed"

I honestly don’t think I’d be back to ER until he was gone if he gets the job.

The guy is an utter ****bag.

[BobMilne]

Tripe post of the day winner



Ron.

FWIW - I'd be happy with Malky Mackay. Done a decent job at Ross County with limited resources but has them playing like a team, with purpose. He's been in management for a while, and from what I can see has always produced teams that punch above their weight.

There was some sort of cloud hanging over him from a supposed racial slur (or something) when he was at Bristol, but that doesn't make him a bad manager.

I'd have thought the Hibs job is a step up from Ross County, but a question any new manager will ask is 'How much time will I get before you shaft me'.

I would be very unhappy (and wouldn't renew my season) if any of the following were appointed:

Kevin Thomson
Broony
John Kennedy
David Martindale
Derek McInnes

[Daily Hibs]

So as a club there are more important things to get right than sporting success?

[Jones28]

That's why we've sacked Maloney. Our remit is not finish top 6, it's challenge for 3/4.

A challenge they will be able to mount by getting the top six finish.

[heretoday]

Callum Davidson will need a new challenge after this season whether Saints stay up or not.

[Jones28]

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article7650784.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/mackay-texts.jpg

"supposed"

Aye but he done some night classes and he's all better now.

[Callum_62]

Callum Davidson will need a new challenge after this season whether Saints stay up or not.I'd hope thats no where near Easter Road

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[WhileTheChief..]

With too much time on my hands I have been thinking about everything going on at the club.

It's my conclusion that both Ross and Maloney had to go and the owner should be applauded for recognising that. On the flip side Maloney should never have been appointed so it isn't all praise and well dones.

Over the course of the last 3 years I have either attended or watched on telly every game maybe bar one or two and it's almost always been a hard watch.

There have been some exceptions of course but, generally speaking, it's not been much fun.

Clearly covid has played a part in this with the lack of crowds but I sometimes wonder if that actually helped us a bit. Not sure the punters would been happy sitting through a lot of Jack Ross football where we often had less of the ball and played on the counter attack.

Where do we go from here? It all depends on the owner really. Is he still as emotionally invested as he appeared to be when he first arrived? The timing with the pandemic was incredible bad luck for him and I really hope he has the appetite to turn things around for us.

We will have hundreds interested in being our manager. Contrary to some people I don't think anyone at all will be put off by our recent hiring and firing. Quite the reverse in fact as anyone with the self confidence needed to be a top manager will see it as a massive opportunity.

The good news is, if we get this one right, things can turn incredibly quickly in football. A decent appointment allied with some exciting new players and the place can soon be vibrant and exciting again.

Obviously there are no guarantees but I always find it an exciting time waiting for a new manager to be paraded.

I quite like the thought of an old head like McInnes assisted by a potentially exciting young coach such as Scott Brown or Krvin Thomson.

We shall see.

Agree with all of this, the bit in bold especially.

It's hard to put a finger on it, but even when we finished 3rd, it was still a bit crap.

I've seen it mentioned a few times over the last day or so, but we need some swagger. Some attitude.

Lennon had it, and instilled it in our club. Heckingbottom sucked the life out of us and Maloney was never the man to bring it back.

I hope whoever we get has some personality about him, some presence, and some decent chat!! I know it's not the most important thing to be worried about, but some character around ER wouldn't go amiss.

[Jones28]

Agree with all of this, the bit in bold especially.

It's hard to put a finger on it, but even when we finished 3rd, it was still a bit crap.

I've seen it mentioned a few times over the last day or so, but we need some swagger. Some attitude.

Lennon had it, and instilled it in our club. Heckingbottom sucked the life out of us and Maloney was never the man to bring it back.

I hope whoever we get has some personality about him, some presence, and some decent chat!! I know it's not the most important thing to be worried about, but some character around ER wouldn't go amiss.

We had it in spades not so long ago. Cummings was an eedjit but some of the stuff he did was brillant. I miss that Hibs team.

[Mcbizz1998]

It’s a funny old world where some would be appalled with Malky and refuse to renew but would quite happily take Martindale.

[bingo70]

With too much time on my hands I have been thinking about everything going on at the club.

It's my conclusion that both Ross and Maloney had to go and the owner should be applauded for recognising that. On the flip side Maloney should never have been appointed so it isn't all praise and well dones.

Over the course of the last 3 years I have either attended or watched on telly every game maybe bar one or two and it's almost always been a hard watch.

There have been some exceptions of course but, generally speaking, it's not been much fun.

Clearly covid has played a part in this with the lack of crowds but I sometimes wonder if that actually helped us a bit. Not sure the punters would been happy sitting through a lot of Jack Ross football where we often had less of the ball and played on the counter attack.

Where do we go from here? It all depends on the owner really. Is he still as emotionally invested as he appeared to be when he first arrived? The timing with the pandemic was incredible bad luck for him and I really hope he has the appetite to turn things around for us.

We will have hundreds interested in being our manager. Contrary to some people I don't think anyone at all will be put off by our recent hiring and firing. Quite the reverse in fact as anyone with the self confidence needed to be a top manager will see it as a massive opportunity.

The good news is, if we get this one right, things can turn incredibly quickly in football. A decent appointment allied with some exciting new players and the place can soon be vibrant and exciting again.

Obviously there are no guarantees but I always find it an exciting time waiting for a new manager to be paraded.

I quite like the thought of an old head like McInnes assisted by a potentially exciting young coach such as Scott Brown or Krvin Thomson.

We shall see.

Good post.

Agree with most of it, just not the last bit about appointing someone like Mcinnes.

I like the idea of Scott Brown being back involved in the new coaching set up at the club, not for a Derek Mcinnes type guy though.

[LewysGot2]

It’s a funny old world where some would be appalled with Malky and refuse to renew but would quite happily take Martindale.

Happy we don't go near either.

[Mcbizz1998]

Agree with all of this, the bit in bold especially.

It's hard to put a finger on it, but even when we finished 3rd, it was still a bit crap.

I've seen it mentioned a few times over the last day or so, but we need some swagger. Some attitude.

Lennon had it, and instilled it in our club. Heckingbottom sucked the life out of us and Maloney was never the man to bring it back.

I hope whoever we get has some personality about him, some presence, and some decent chat!! I know it's not the most important thing to be worried about, but some character around ER wouldn't go amiss.

We finished 3rd when nobody was allowed in the stadium. I’m sure we would have enjoyed it a lot more if we had been in attendance. That win up at Pittodrie would have been amazing when we secured 3rd with the Doidge goal.

[chippy]

Neil Lennon and Holty fir me

[where'stheslope]

Reading the papers this morning, I think the journo's have been reading this thread?
Every manager mentioned on here is mentioned in the papers???
Or it could be the Bookies???

[bingo70]

Will be Paul Lambert that gets the job IMO.

[Smartie]

Will be Paul Lambert that gets the job IMO.

That wouldn’t surprise me.

We won’t be going for a rookie and “a project” again, so I expect it to be someone with a few jobs behind them and possibly some experience from down South / abroad.

[Dalianwanda]

Aye but does that make him a bad manager?

[emoji849]

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No, but it makes him an absolute ****bag

[Scorrie]

Will be Paul Lambert that gets the job IMO.

Interesting but personally I hope not. Has he been successful anywhere as a manager?

[Dmas]

I really hope we get a firm statement from Ron today that experience is the road we’re going down half the names quoted already fill me with the fear

[Callum_62]

Interesting but personally I hope not. Has he been successful anywhere as a manager?I think he had short bursts of success but nothing to write home about

Don't know why, just not keen on him

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[Inconsequential]

It’s a funny old world where some would be appalled with Malky and refuse to renew but would quite happily take Martindale. Indeed. Which is the lesser evil?

[Hiber-nation]

Is there anyone out there along the same lines as Postecoglu?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agree with all of this, the bit in bold especially.

It's hard to put a finger on it, but even when we finished 3rd, it was still a bit crap.

I've seen it mentioned a few times over the last day or so, but we need some swagger. Some attitude.

Lennon had it, and instilled it in our club. Heckingbottom sucked the life out of us and Maloney was never the man to bring it back.

I hope whoever we get has some personality about him, some presence, and some decent chat!! I know it's not the most important thing to be worried about, but some character around ER wouldn't go amiss.

Agree.

The last couple of years have seen us sign dull and uninspiring players who have matched the personality of the dull and uninspiring managers we’ve had.

As you say, it’s hard to put your finger on it, but we’ve felt completely stale since the latter days of Lennon. Dull players, dull managers, dull football. It’s no surprise we’ve seen crowds drop so much and so much discontent creep in.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm a bit torn on Malky Mackay as a person if he was to come in.

The post above is abhorrent by most reasonable standards; lazy casual racism, xenophobia, sexism, antisemitism and homophobia. That's pretty much the set and suggests a deep seated bigotry.

I suppose the question is did he show genuine contrition both at the time and since? Has he changed his views and behaviour and taken steps to address them? And has he been punished to a level that befits the crime? If the answer is yes to all 3 then it really comes down to whether we believe bigots can both be rehabilitated and whether we are wiling to give them that chance. I assume a comparison with Goodwillie will be drawn but he still maintains innocence and has consequently shown no contrition. If the same is true of Mackay then **** him, if he's genuinely sorry, has changed and has proven both things to be true then he deserves the same second chance as anyone else.

[bingo70]

Interesting but personally I hope not. Has he been successful anywhere as a manager?

I absolutely don’t want him but he did an excellent job at Norwich, also at the club he was at before them, Colchester maybe? Don’t think it is them but I’m too lazy to look.

All the good jobs he’s done were about a hundred years ago so it’s a no from me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Is there anyone out there along the same lines as Postecoglu?

I was wondering that.

We’ve seen the guys celtic have pinched from the J League, I wonder if there’s managers/players out there for us at a slightly lower standard?

[SlickShoes]

Indeed. Which is the lesser evil?

Martindale's crime was something he has taken ownership of, served time for, rehabilitated, and turned his life around. I still don't want him to manage hibs, but that's nothing to do with his crime.

Malky cannot possibly be a manager of people with comments like that in his recent past, how can you sensibly judge players and staff when you have such clear bias towards only white people? everyone has a bias towards what they know but this is just flat-out racism. I find his messages disgusting and wouldn't go near Easter Road if we employed someone who has those opinions.

[LaMotta]

It’s a funny old world where some would be appalled with Malky and refuse to renew but would quite happily take Martindale.

Absolutely.

Its crazy that some people exonerate Martindale because he's supposedly a reformed character who has shown remorse. Its slso crazy that some people think what Mackay done was worse.

Mackay's actions were disgusting, but Martindale was part of a trade helping to faciliate deaths, rapes and torture thousands of miles away, alongside destruction of natural habitats and also causing misery and social distruction in communities closer to home. Oh its fine though cause he got caught and served his time:hilarious

[SlickShoes]

Absolutely.

Its crazy that some people exonerate Martindale because he's supposedly a reformed character who has shown remorse. Its slso crazy that some people think what Mackay done was worse.

Mackay's actions were disgusting, but Martindale was part of a trade helping to faciliate deaths, rapes and torture thousands of miles away, alongside destruction of natural habitats and also causing misery and social distruction in communities closer to home. Oh its fine though cause he got caught and served his time:hilarious

The whole point of catching criminals should be to rehabilitate them and reintegrate them into society though, what should Martindale have done after getting caught that would make sense to you? Just jail for life?

[Jones28]

Absolutely.

Its crazy that some people exonerate Martindale because he's supposedly a reformed character who has shown remorse. Its slso crazy that some people think what Mackay done was worse.

Mackay's actions were disgusting, but Martindale was part of a trade helping to faciliate deaths, rapes and torture thousands of miles away, alongside destruction of natural habitats and also causing misery and social distruction in communities closer to home. Oh its fine though cause he got caught and served his time:hilarious

Either of those two being Hibs manager would be irreconcilable with me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Either of those two being Hibs manager would be irreconcilable with me.

Yup.

If either of them got the gig I’m not sure I’d be in a hurry to go back to ER next season.

[Inconsequential]

Absolutely.

Its crazy that some people exonerate Martindale because he's supposedly a reformed character who has shown remorse. Its slso crazy that some people think what Mackay done was worse.

Mackay's actions were disgusting, but Martindale was part of a trade helping to faciliate deaths, rapes and torture thousands of miles away, alongside destruction of natural habitats and also causing misery and social distruction in communities closer to home. Oh its fine though cause he got caught and served his time:hilarious Spot on.

[Coco Bryce]

Either of those two being Hibs manager would be irreconcilable with me.

What's your views on having a convicted Drink Driver in our squad?

[Cruit]

I still don’t see what O’Neill has done as a club manager which suggests he would be remotely good for us ….


Won a first title for Rovers in 15/16 years, followed that up and also brought them into the group stages of the Europa League, knocking out Partizan Belgrade along the way. Then took NI to their first major tournament in 20 years, where they made it out of their group, granted this is not club management. Then went to Stoke, who were bottom of the Championship, and turned them back into a midtable side.

I doubt he'd be available as an option as I suspect his wages at Stoke might be quite high but he's done very well as a manager so far.

[LaMotta]

The whole point of catching criminals should be to rehabilitate them and reintegrate them into society though, what should Martindale have done after getting caught that would make sense to you? Just jail for life?

Of course he should be rehabilatated.

My point ( which I thought was pretty obvious) is about the blatant hypocrisy of anyone saying they wouldn't take Mackay but would happily take Martindale.

It's not a credible position to take. Although you appear to have taken it.

[SlickShoes]

Of course he should be rehabilatated.

My point ( which I thought was pretty obvious) is about the blatant hypocrisy of anyone saying they wouldn't take Mackay but would happily take Martindale.

It's not a credible position to take. Although you appear to have taken it.

I don't think he should be Hibs manager at all, it would be a terrible appointment.

[Vini1875]

The first hurdle in appointing a new manager is to get someone who would unite the support, which might be a very short list. The new man then needs a substantial budget to sign experienced players, that ignites interest in the new season. He also has to get off to a flyer.

Our biggest problem seems that the board don't understand the fans. My hope is that RG is ambitious and will not accept failure in the way that the last regime did.

[JXM73]

Ian Gordon

[MWHIBBIES]

So hopeless they got a top 6 finish.

That doesn't make him good at all.

[LaMotta]

I don't think he should be Hibs manager at all, it would be a terrible appointment.

Yes but you said that his crime didnt bother you, it's because you think he isn't a good manager.

Why does his crime not bother you but Mackay's does?

[Mcbizz1998]

The whole point of catching criminals should be to rehabilitate them and reintegrate them into society though, what should Martindale have done after getting caught that would make sense to you? Just jail for life?

Not sure that’s the point.

Of course Martindale has served his time and should be allowed to rebuild his life. But MM was also caught and faced consequences, but most on here believe he shouldn’t be afforded the same opportunity.

[greenflyer]

Jon Dahl Tomasson
or
Jurgen Klinsmann

Appear to be available at the moment.

[JeMeSouviens]

Of course he should be rehabilatated.

My point ( which I thought was pretty obvious) is about the blatant hypocrisy of anyone saying they wouldn't take Mackay but would happily take Martindale.

It's not a credible position to take. Although you appear to have taken it.

Martindale does seem to be genuinely remorseful and committed to rehab. Not so sure that applies to Mackay? If it does, then fair enough, but from memory he just tried to pass it all off as "bants" didn't he?

[Jones28]

What's your views on having a convicted Drink Driver in our squad?

It's poor. But young men drink driving is not irreconcilable. I think the club were too lenient, particularly having Newall playing - was it the same day as he was done? I wouldn't have had that, he should have been out of the team for a couple of weeks, fined the weeks wages etc.

A man involved deeply in major crime and a man who - even at one point in time said the things that Mackay said - are totally different levels.

[Jones28]

That doesn't make him good at all.

What if he gets Motherwell in to Europe in the remaining five games?

[Mcbizz1998]

Martindale does seem to be genuinely remorseful and committed to rehab. Not so sure that applies to Mackay? If it does, then fair enough, but from memory he just tried to pass it all off as "bants" didn't he?

Hmm no he didn’t.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/malky-mackay-texts-leader-of-people-mackay-issues-grovelling-apology-for-text-scandal-9686834.html?amp

[Since90+2]

Are people seriously comparing what Martindale done to what Malky Mackay sent in a whatsapp? Martindale was involved in large scale drug supplying. Without question his actions would have brought misery, pain and suffering to countless drug users and their families.

They are not even the same sport let alone ballpark.

For those that are saying Martindale has shown contrition and remorse, where do you draw the line? Would someone who's committed murder be acceptable if they served their time and shows remorse?

Let's remember that what Martindale done was over a sustained period of many years. This wasn't heat of the moment, one off costly mistake. He was fully aware of his actions throughout and would have been aware of the damage he was causing to people's lifes. He shouldn't be deemed a fit and proper person to manage a football club IMO

[bingo70]

Are people seriously comparing what Martindale done to what Malky Mackay sent in a whatsapp? Martindale was involved in large scale drug supplying. Without question his actions would have brought misery, pain and suffering to countless drug users and their families.

They are not even the same sport let alone ballpark.

For those that are saying Martindale has shown contrition and remorse, where do you draw the line? Would someone who's committed murder be acceptable if they served their time and shows remorse?

Let's remember that what Martindale done was over a sustained period of many years. This wasn't heat of the moment, one off costly mistake. He was fully aware of his actions throughout and would have been aware of the damage he was causing to people's lifes. He shouldn't be deemed a fit and proper person to manage a football club IMO

I think for the most part people deserves second chances and that applies to Martindale and Mackay.

[Unseen work]

Not just the messages, but I just have the fear McKay would end up being like Terry Butcher.

Very good at a ‘smaller’ club and plays a direct style which wouldn’t work here.

[JeMeSouviens]

Hmm no he didn’t.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/malky-mackay-texts-leader-of-people-mackay-issues-grovelling-apology-for-text-scandal-9686834.html?amp

Ah yes, you're right. I think it was this I was remembering:


The LMA has been strongly criticised for the statement it issued on Mackay’s behalf, in which his texts were described as “banter”. Cardiff have called for the resignation of the association’s chief executive Richard Bevan.

However, reading what Mackay says in that article I'm not convinced. His texts were bigoted and the "man under pressure" stuff is a pretty thin excuse.

[Cropley10]

Are people seriously comparing what Martindale done to what Malky Mackay sent in a whatsapp? Martindale was involved in large scale drug supplying. Without question his actions would have brought misery, pain and suffering to countless drug users and their families.

They are not even the same sport let alone ballpark.

For those that are saying Martindale has shown contrition and remorse, where do you draw the line? Would someone who's committed murder be acceptable if they served their time and shows remorse?

Let's remember that what Martindale done was over a sustained period of many years. This wasn't heat of the moment, one off costly mistake. He was fully aware of his actions throughout and would have been aware of the damage he was causing to people's lifes. He shouldn't be deemed a fit and proper person to manage a football club IMO

Thankfully it's got nothing to do with you. Martindale has repaid his debt to society through the justice system and like everyone else is entitled to rebuild his life.

[Cropley10]

Not just the messages, but I just have the fear McKay would end up being like Terry Butcher.

Very good at a ‘smaller’ club and plays a direct style which wouldn’t work here.

What's the problem, if it doesn't work out just sack him.

[LaMotta]

Martindale does seem to be genuinely remorseful and committed to rehab. Not so sure that applies to Mackay? If it does, then fair enough, but from memory he just tried to pass it all off as "bants" didn't he?

They have both shown remorse but even if Mackay hadn't and Martindale had I dont see how that makes any difference given the gravity of Martindale's actions over a sustained period of time. He said sorry woo hoo!?

I actually dont have strong views either way on whether they should or shouldn't get jobs in football. There are arguments for both sides. The problem comes when people make out Martindale is Ok to manage but Mackay isnt. it happened a lot on Twitter last summer and was bonkers IMO.

[LewysGot2]

Hmm no he didn’t.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/malky-mackay-texts-leader-of-people-mackay-issues-grovelling-apology-for-text-scandal-9686834.html?amp

That article refers several times to "3 texts". It's very specific and repeated. Yet there's evidence of more than 3 instances (just see above in this thread) and it looks a little like damage limitation language - it was just the 3, I made a mistake, I'm not a bigot.

Or maybe it's just a consequence of being part of a machinery where "its just a minority" and "I'm not a bigot" is the norm.

Only he knows how much he genuinely regrets his "jokes" or comments. It's pretty much full house bigot bingo though and unlikely to have been in isolation or just "3 texts of a man under pressure" (WTF?)

I don't want MacKay or Martindale near our club.

[Since90+2]

I think for the most part people deserves second chances and that applies to Martindale and Mackay.

Out of interest, do you think that applies to someone who has committed murder?

If you deem Martindale acceptable as he's served his time would you feel the same about a convicted murderer being involved at the top end of Scottish football?

[Since90+2]

Thankfully it's got nothing to do with you. Martindale has repaid his debt to society through the justice system and like everyone else is entitled to rebuild his life.

So any person who has committed any crime whatsoever if they serve their time should be welcome in Scottish football? Even the most horrific crimes imaginable?

[bingo70]

Out of interest, do you think that applies to someone who has committed murder?

If you deem Martindale acceptable as he's served his time would you feel the same about a convicted murderer being involved at the top end of Scottish football?

I think it would depend on the circumstances.

[Cropley10]

They have both shown remorse but even if Mackay hadn't and Martindale had I dont see how that makes any difference given the gravity of Martindale's actions over a sustained period of time. He said sorry woo hoo!?

He 'said sorry'? Are you for real - he went to prison. He was incarcerated to punish him, protect society and finally rehabilitate him.

[bingo70]

So any person who has committed any crime whatsoever if they serve their time should be welcome in Scottish football? Even the most horrific crimes imaginable?

Just something to point out and I’m no expert but I don’t think many people make a career choice to do what he did. It can happen as a result of pretty horrible circumstances and tough upbringing. Once in that life it isn’t always easy to get out.

I think showing drug dealers and users there’s a way out of that life should be commended and we should be using him as an example to other people stuck in that rut. Just my opinion though.

FWIW my boy has a trial with Livingston pro youth next week and I wouldn’t think twice about putting him in with someone like Martindale at the club as I think he shows that almost no matter what you’ve done, there’s always a way out the other side which for me is a good life lesson for kids.

If he was a sex offender I would draw the line there, I don’t know if that makes me a hypocrite or contradicts what I’ve just said but it’s what I think.

[LaMotta]

He 'said sorry'? Are you for real - he went to prison. He was incarcerated to punish him, protect society and finally rehabilitate him.

What are you on about?! He went to jail because he got caught in an undercover police sting operation.

People are claiming that he should be employable but Mackay shouldn't because DM has "shown remorse" or served his time.

How does this make him any more or less employable in footballing terms than Mackay? It's a ridiculous stance to take - either they both are employable or neither of them are. Both of those views have merits.

[Sioux]

What are you on about?! He went to jail because he got caught in an undercover police sting operation.

People are claiming that he should be employable but Mackay shouldn't because DM has "shown remorse" or served his time.

How does this make him any more or less employable than Mackay? It's a ridiculous stance to take - either they both are employable or neither of them are. Both of those views have merits.

So, anyone who commits an offence should never be employed again?

[Mcbizz1998]

That article refers several times to "3 texts". It's very specific and repeated. Yet there's evidence of more than 3 instances (just see above in this thread) and it looks a little like damage limitation language - it was just the 3, I made a mistake, I'm not a bigot.

Or maybe it's just a consequence of being part of a machinery where "its just a minority" and "I'm not a bigot" is the norm.

Only he knows how much he genuinely regrets his "jokes" or comments. It's pretty much full house bigot bingo though and unlikely to have been in isolation or just "3 texts of a man under pressure" (WTF?)

I don't want MacKay or Martindale near our club.

Yeah fair enough, I was just pointing out he never said it was ‘banter’. It was actually someone else who said that on his behalf as the above poster found the quote of.

I want neither of them but I find the reaction to Mackay compared to when Martindales name is mentioned quite weird. In my mind it’s the latter who committed the more serious offence.

[Since452]

On manager ability alone Malky Mackay is the obvious choice. He will already be well aware what we need. Obviously it's the baggage he carries that's the issue. If he didn't he'd be nowhare near Ross County.

[LaMotta]

So, anyone who commits an offence should never be employed again?

I'm talking about employability at Hibs or in football - but I don't have strong views either way.

Please read my posts back and understand the point I'm making which is about hypocrisy.:greengrin

[Since90+2]

Just something to point out and I’m no expert but I don’t think many people make a career choice to do what he did. It can happen as a result of pretty horrible circumstances and tough upbringing. Once in that life it isn’t always easy to get out.

I think showing drug dealers and users there’s a way out of that life should be commended and we should be using him as an example to other people stuck in that rut. Just my opinion though.

FWIW my boy has a trial with Livingston pro youth next week and I wouldn’t think twice about putting him in with someone like Martindale at the club as I think he shows that almost no matter what you’ve done, there’s always a way out the other side which for me is a good life lesson for kids.

If he was a sex offender I would draw the line there, I don’t know if that makes me a hypocrite or contradicts what I’ve just said but it’s what I think.

That's all fair and a reasonable stance to take.

Like you, I do believe some crimes should stop you from the privilege of managing at the top end of Scottish football. I suppose everyone will have different cut off points as to what those offenses are. For instance, I'd imagine those people who have seen loved ones either die or destroy their lifes from drug use would be less keen on a convicted large scale drug supplier being involved in the game.

[easty]

So, anyone who commits an offence should never be employed again?

Depends on the offence. If you accidentally kill someone, then you should be allowed to work. If you put in the teabag then the milk, then the water, then no you shouldn’t be allowed to be employed ever again.

[Daily Hibs]

It's poor. But young men drink driving is not irreconcilable. I think the club were too lenient, particularly having Newall playing - was it the same day as he was done? I wouldn't have had that, he should have been out of the team for a couple of weeks, fined the weeks wages etc.
Some take when comparing to MacKay.

[Heisenberg]

On manager ability alone Malky Mackay is the obvious choice. He will already be well aware what we need. Obviously it's the baggage he carries that's the issue. If he didn't he'd be nowhare near Ross County.

I’m not sure I agree. His record is pretty poor everywhere he’s been.

[He's here!]

Be interesting to see how Sir David gets on over the final few games of the season. If there's a sense of unity accompanied by solid results what would thoughts be on building a coaching team around him for next season?

[LaMotta]

Depends on the offence. If you accidentally kill someone, then you should be allowed to work. If you put in the teabag then the milk, then the water, then no you shouldn’t be allowed to be employed ever again.

:hilarious

[Smartie]

Be interesting to see how Sir David gets on over the final few games of the season. If there's a sense of unity accompanied by solid results what would thoughts be on building a coaching team around him for next season?

I didn't think he did a bad job as caretaker last time was a bit unlucky in the cup final.

If his team selections make sense, his subs make sense and we pick up a few decent results - then why not?

Maybe rather than an experienced coach with a young assistant we could go for a young manager with an experienced head to be beside him?

Absolutely none of the suggestions for the job jump out at me as being a better suggestion tbh - unlike the last couple of times the job was available and there folk like McInnes and Neil out of work, before that Jack Ross...

[1van Sprou7e]

I’m not sure I agree. His record is pretty poor everywhere he’s been.

Won the championship and made a cup final with Cardiff and done a great job with County this season

Really think he would have had a pretty good career so far if he wasn't a racist **** back then

[Hibernian Verse]

Be interesting to see how Sir David gets on over the final few games of the season. If there's a sense of unity accompanied by solid results what would thoughts be on building a coaching team around him for next season?

I'd never want David Gray to manage Hibs because he would then have a shelf life.

[Since452]

Depends on the offence. If you accidentally kill someone, then you should be allowed to work. If you put in the teabag then the milk, then the water, then no you shouldn’t be allowed to be employed ever again.

Absolute ****bag :grr:

[WhileTheChief..]

Thread is going way off track. Take your chat about murderers and criminals to the Holy Ground.

[LewysGot2]

Won the championship and made a cup final with Cardiff and done a great job with County this season

Really think he would have had a pretty good career so far if he wasn't a racist **** back then

The reason he's at County and Martindale at Livi are their past misdemeanours. He'd not be at County if he'd not been happy to be racist, sexist, homophobic etc He might even be the Celtic manager right now.

Martindale had to go through fit and proper assessment to be allowed to manage - the authorities had to approve his appointment- but there's no way he's ever managing at a level above Livi. No club with serious sponsorship deals will ever endorse a former drug dealer as a manager never mind the perception of the gravity of his criminality. Mind you there's no way he's managing any club with higher expectations than Livingston anyway. Mackay and him had different levels of potential and aspiration.

[Jones28]

Some take when comparing to MacKay.

Ok, well Daily Hibs has called me on it so I'll change my mind. :na na:

[FilipinoHibs]

Neither should be anywhere near a high profile job like managing Hibs. It would split the fans and open us to all sorts of jibes. Those that have sinned like they have should quietly rehabilitate themselves in a low key way. If either are appointed that will be finished with Hibs until this regime are gone.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Depends on the offence. If you accidentally kill someone, then you should be allowed to work. If you put in the teabag then the milk, then the water, then no you shouldn’t be allowed to be employed ever again.


thanks a damn bunch :confused:

[LaMotta]

Thread is going way off track. Take your chat about murderers and criminals to the Holy Ground.

People are talking about a convicted criminal potentially becoming Hibs manager - the nuances behind whether that's acceptable or not are pretty relevant to the topic in this thread IMO.

[Spudster]

Given Ron has said he wants to go more experienced this list throws up a few potential names:
www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/casualties

Always thought Chris Hughton seemed a decent manager but was limited by unstable clubs (Newcastle, Birmingham, Forest)

[WestStandWillie]

The 'Next Hibs Manager' markets are absolutely soul destroying.

Malky MacKay = Not renewing ST if he got the gig
SDG = Won't be as Ron wants experience
KT = I want him nowhere near Easter Road
Woodgate = :rolleyes:
McPake = Didn't really set the heather on fire at Dundee
Lennon = BORING
Stubbs = Lets no tarnish the good times.

It's almost always the same folk linked. Tedious.

[Gordy M]

The 'Next Hibs Manager' markets are absolutely soul destroying.

Malky MacKay = Not renewing ST if he got the gig
SDG = Won't be as Ron wants experience
KT = I want him nowhere near Easter Road
Woodgate = :rolleyes:
McPake = Didn't really set the heather on fire at Dundee
Lennon = BORING
Stubbs = Lets no tarnish the good times.

It's almost always the same folk linked. Tedious.

There is no point looking at the bookies markets. If they knew or had a good idea, the market would close. Honestly if you went and stuck 50 quid on any manager, they would immediately appear high up on the betting. The bookies woukd be worried that you knew something they didnt. Pay no attention, especially in the early stages.

[Stevie Reid]

I’m not sure I agree. His record is pretty poor everywhere he’s been.

That isn’t true. He did well enough at Watford to get acquired by Cardiff. He took them to their first ever league cup final in his first season, and then got them promoted to the EPL by winning the Championship title the following year.

He’s been brilliant for County. Wigan he was very poor, but that’s the only one.

[Stevie Reid]

Don’t know if poster already, apologies if so - on the topic of Mackay’s rehabilitation:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38314905

[GreenGray]

We desperately need a manager who the whole fan base can get behind and who could hopefully drive up ST sales. Unfortunately I don’t know if there’s any realistic names out there who can do that?

Certainly not McInnes, Mackay or Thompson would do that. Perhaps an experienced foreign manager is the best option but of course that comes with risks too.

Maybe should just bring Lennon back for a laugh

[HAZ2000]

I’m a gay hibee, and while Mackay’s texts were clearly homophobic and offensive, he deserves a second chance.

It’s hugely important to allow people the chance to change and grow, before they are simply ‘cancelled’, especially given how quickly social politics are progressing in the right direction.

Malky messed up, most people do. He’s my choice for next manager

[Dr_Regal]

Ole Gunnar Solksjaer

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m a gay hibee, and while Mackay’s texts were clearly homophobic and offensive, he deserves a second chance.

It’s hugely important to allow people the chance to change and grow, before they are simply ‘cancelled’, especially given how quickly social politics are progressing in the right direction.

Malky messed up, most people do. He’s my choice for next manager

I’d be inclined to agree with that if it had been one homophobic remark or one racist remark etc.

It was a full house. The guy is an intolerant, bigoted homophobic racist. There was no mistake on his part. That’s who he is. He can **** right off from Hibs imo.

[Mcbizz1998]

I’m a gay hibee, and while Mackay’s texts were clearly homophobic and offensive, he deserves a second chance.

It’s hugely important to allow people the chance to change and grow, before they are simply ‘cancelled’, especially given how quickly social politics are progressing in the right direction.

Malky messed up, most people do. He’s my choice for next manager

Well said.

[CropleyWasGod]

I’d be inclined to agree with that if it had been one homophobic remark or one racist remark etc.

It was a full house. The guy is an intolerant, bigoted homophobic racist. There was no mistake on his part. That’s who he is. He can **** right off from Hibs imo.

So the training he went through was a failure?

[BegbieHSC]

I’ve already renewed my season ticket, but if Mackay is brought in I’m 100% handing it back. He’s a racist homophobe who belongs nowhere near our club.

That Hun Thomson can gtf too - albeit he’s not season ticket returning material. He’s only disgraced himself with his footballing allegiances, and not through being bigoted.

I like the Norwegian names being floated as next manager, but the rest of the list is pretty uninspiring.

[Springbank]

I guess for Kevin Thomson, if you want to be considered for any upper-mid sized job in Scottish football (Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee clubs, Hearts, Motherwell, St Mirren) then you make yourself unemployable by going regular co-comms on rangers TV

He's bad news

[Paulie Walnuts]

So the training he went through was a failure?

I think we all know fine well these sort of things are tick box exercises.

[CropleyWasGod]

I think we all know fine well these sort of things are tick box exercises.

Are they?

I've never been involved with one, so wouldn't know.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Are they?

I've never been involved with one, so wouldn't know.

Ah well. I’ve done plenty training courses and they’re always absolute pish. I have no faith that one that’s aimed at a man who shows utter disdain to anyone that isn’t a straight British white male would work.

[Lago]

The interview process for the next Hibs manager could be quite interesting
Questions will range from
1: are you homophobic
2: are you a drug pusher
3: are you a hun
4: are you a tim
5: and last at what level if any, have coach a men's football team.

[blackpoolhibs]

I have never known a support who will never set foot in easter road, or hand their season tickets back because we appoint a manager they dont like.

Is mother teresa available?

[ahibby]

I would not consider Thomson, not enough experience. I would not consider McPake, he didnt do well enough. I would consider MacKay, experienced and not one of the boys.

[Eaststand]

The interview process for the next Hibs manager could be quite interesting
Questions will range from
1: are you homophobic
2: are you a drug pusher
3: are you a hun
4: are you a tim
5: and last at what level if any, have coach a men's football team.

You should probably include,

6. Have you ever broken the law, any law
7. Have you ever sent a dodgy text message
8. Have you ever signed a player who wasn't a success
9. Have you ever agreed with or liked a Hun/Tim tweet or text
10. Have you ever given your opinion to the press, or online on any topic at all which might be cast up in the future

There's more, but the list is just too long...

GGTTH

[SHODAN]

Fine then, if past behaviour shouldn't have any bearing on Hibs managerial appointments then let's offer Paul Hartley the job. I'm sure no one would have any complaints there.

[AugustaHibs]

Fine then, if past behaviour shouldn't have any bearing on Hibs managerial appointments then let's offer Paul Hartley the job. I'm sure no one would have any complaints there.

Paul Hartleys past doesn’t change the fact he’s currently managing ****ing cove rangers.

Terrible example.

[JohnM1875]

Malky MacKay quite clearly has an atrocious sense of humour with his 'jokes' but if the folks at Kick it Out were happy to back him for the SFA role then surely some holier than thou football fans can?

[CropleyWasGod]

You should probably include,

6. Have you ever broken the law, any law
7. Have you ever sent a dodgy text message
8. Have you ever signed a player who wasn't a success
9. Have you ever agreed with or liked a Hun/Tim tweet or text
10. Have you ever given your opinion to the press, or online on any topic at all which might be cast up in the future

There's more, but the list is just too long...

GGTTH

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