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Smartie
11-05-2022, 12:00 PM
Last time I post anything I've heard !
I can't believe how hard folk on here are on people who share stuff that they've heard.
Blurhibee
11-05-2022, 12:04 PM
Lee Johnson will be the manager
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 12:05 PM
You’ll probably get a ticking off for that but it’s not unjustified. What a bunch of cruel responses to a rumour being shared.
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 12:06 PM
I can't believe how hard folk on here are on people who share stuff that they've heard.
Have people been hard on him?
If anyone posts a rumour, people will cast doubt on it, particularly, as in this case, if it is exactly the opposite of a previous rumour.
The recruitment system was also the reason that Roy Keane didn't want the job although he, like McInness, was never approached.
Coco Bryce
11-05-2022, 12:06 PM
This place is toxic :rolleyes:
andrew70
11-05-2022, 12:07 PM
This place is toxic :rolleyes:
Hibs are toxic just now.
Coco Bryce
11-05-2022, 12:08 PM
Not true.
Source? :greengrin
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 12:09 PM
Source? :greengrin
Would a mysterious ex player be suitable since I'm not supposed to believe anything that's in the papers? :wink:
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 12:10 PM
Lee Johnson will be the manager
Something you have heard or gut instinct with the names being banded about?
Won't be to long I don't think until we hear.
Hibby Kay-Yay
11-05-2022, 12:12 PM
Hibs are toxic just now.
I don’t believe we are but for the relatively small number of people on social media, it tends to get greatly amplified.
Coco Bryce
11-05-2022, 12:14 PM
I don’t believe we are but for the relatively small number of people on social media, it tends to get greatly amplified.
Twitter is 100 times worse than on here at the moment.
Hibs should seriously consider stop tweeting.
McGruber
11-05-2022, 12:15 PM
Something you have heard or gut instinct with the names being banded about?
Won't be to long I don't think until we hear.
For god's sake man, don't have him say it's something he's heard.. they'll have his eyes out!
andrew70
11-05-2022, 12:15 PM
I don’t believe we are but for the relatively small number of people on social media, it tends to get greatly amplified.
An unfortunate mix of toxic apathy.
The vultures circle louder than those who want the best for Hibs or at least that’s the way it’s coming across. A really horrible feeling and I feel it’s a long way back.
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 12:17 PM
For god's sake man, don't have him say it's something he's heard.. they'll have his eyes out!
😂
Paulie Walnuts
11-05-2022, 12:17 PM
You’ll probably get a ticking off for that but it’s not unjustified. What a bunch of cruel responses to a rumour being shared.
:agree:
Hibs.net is a poorer place with the amount of trolling people get away with.
Lee Bowyer could be on his way out at Birmingham 😁
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 12:23 PM
You need a reality check if that's the way you're looking at it. Hibs have a great history but in the context of current UK/European football we are small fry. Most Championship and league 1 teams will have budgets that outstrip ours and be able to pay their manage higher wages than us.
We aren't going to be able to attract a big name who also has a successful managerial CV. Managers who have failed in the championship, or done well at League 1/League 2 is our level financially.
Doesn't need to be a nig name though, just someone who has won stuff.
I dunno, pick 10 or 15 leagues from around Europe, excluding the big 5.
Who's won the most leagues in Croatia, or Serbia, or Norway, or Latvia or wherever in the last 10 years? There must be some clubs, of a similar size to us, that have decent managers?
There will be dozens of managers who have taken clubs into the Europa League group stages, or cup finals, or won titles.
Are we looking at them? If not, why not?
We wouldn't entertain anyone from the lower leagues in Spain or France so why would we take someone from a tiny club in England?
I don't accept for a minute that the best we can get is someone who failed in the Championship. We can offer European football (or should be able to ). There's only 6 or 7 clubs in England that can do that.
If our club is adopting a mentality similar to yours then, yeah, we're screwed.
We need to aim higher.
SHODAN
11-05-2022, 12:23 PM
Really don't like the sound of Johnson tbh.
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 12:23 PM
:agree:
Hibs.net is a poorer place with the amount of trolling people get away with.
It's certainly a worse place when people are determined to post made up rubbish just to make Hibs look bad.
HendoDelivered
11-05-2022, 12:32 PM
Really don't like the sound of Johnson tbh.
Me too. Rather Appleton or Robinson than Johnson.
Willis1875
11-05-2022, 12:34 PM
Odds are back up….Johnson at 5/4 followed by Mackay at 4s and Appleton at 16s
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 12:36 PM
Odds are back up….Johnson at 5/4 followed by Mackay at 4s and Appleton at 16s
Dispiriting. Those are probably in reverse order of what I’d think would be most likely to get us improving as a club.
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 12:38 PM
None of these names are doing it for me to be honest. Sad state of affairs.
Willis1875
11-05-2022, 12:39 PM
Dispiriting. Those are probably in reverse order of what I’d think would be most likely to get us improving as a club.
Yeah not very inspiring….some of the other names on the list are likely the other 2 of the apparent 4 man shortlist….take your pick from Lambert,Boothroyd,Woodgate and Monk
McInnes was interviewed. Said no... due to signing policy. Source ex player
I don't think there's been any formal interviews. More likely that there was some initial discussions and he wasn't added to the shortlist.
Was that down to us rejecting him and this is the story he has spun to his friends to save face or did he genuinely turn us down for this reason we'll never know.
Thanks for sharing though
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 12:40 PM
Odds are back up….Johnson at 5/4 followed by Mackay at 4s and Appleton at 16s
Must know Appleton isn’t taking it if they are offering 16s
tonyrougier123
11-05-2022, 12:43 PM
David Unsworth could be a shout.
bingo70
11-05-2022, 12:43 PM
Really don't like the sound of Johnson tbh.
Can I ask, is that just based on reading his Wikipedia page or is there more to it than that?
I wrote him off as a dud yesterday but the more digging I’ve done today the more I’ve liked what I’ve heard about him.
Not criticising your opinion by the way, I can completely understand why people are underwhelmed at the prospect.
Very sad response that.
But pretty typical of the responses on here these days.
GloryGlory
11-05-2022, 12:46 PM
Must know Appleton isn’t taking it if they are offering 16s
Obviously don't know Mackay isn't in the running at all.
SlickShoes
11-05-2022, 12:46 PM
Doesn't need to be a nig name though, just someone who has won stuff.
I dunno, pick 10 or 15 leagues from around Europe, excluding the big 5.
Who's won the most leagues in Croatia, or Serbia, or Norway, or Latvia or wherever in the last 10 years? There must be some clubs, of a similar size to us, that have decent managers?
There will be dozens of managers who have taken clubs into the Europa League group stages, or cup finals, or won titles.
Are we looking at them? If not, why not?
We wouldn't entertain anyone from the lower leagues in Spain or France so why would we take someone from a tiny club in England?
I don't accept for a minute that the best we can get is someone who failed in the Championship. We can offer European football (or should be able to ). There's only 6 or 7 clubs in England that can do that.
If our club is adopting a mentality similar to yours then, yeah, we're screwed.
We need to aim higher.
What would make you think they would entertain us? Many people all over the world never want to set foot in the UK, don't speak English, and are happy living where they are.
hibsforeurope
11-05-2022, 12:47 PM
McInnes was interviewed. Said no... due to signing policy. Source ex player
He's not the only one to have turned it down due to the signing policy/direction the club is moving in.
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 12:48 PM
He's not the only one to have turned it down due to the signing policy/direction the club is moving in.Is that so?
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Yeah, me too.
Me to, all the nonsense about Roy Keane being interested completely skewed the debate, now back to reality.
HendoDelivered
11-05-2022, 12:51 PM
I know it’s the Sun but thought I’d share. Bit of a misleading headline as it says Appleton is as much in the mix.
Hibs face competition from several English clubs as they look to land ex-Hearts ace Lee Johnson as their new boss
https://t.co/uL1dZA00zy
nonshinyfinish
11-05-2022, 12:51 PM
Must know Appleton isn’t taking it if they are offering 16s
Or they know nothing at all and the odds only reflect the amount of money staked on each, which is often the case with next manager markets.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 12:51 PM
But pretty type of the responses on here these days.
You think it’s sad that a Hibs fan doesn’t want an ex Hearts player as manger?
I call it common sense.
Posts like your are pretty sad though, they add nothing to the discussion.
Alex Trager
11-05-2022, 12:52 PM
The bookies had McInnes as the hibs boss on Friday.
If only 😢
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 12:53 PM
What would make you think they would entertain us? Many people all over the world never want to set foot in the UK, don't speak English, and are happy living where they are.
So we don’t go for these guys. Pretty obvious really.
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 12:54 PM
Or they know nothing at all and the odds only reflect the amount of money staked on each, which is often the case with next manager markets.
Surely they are looking at the press reports too though? His name is still being widely linked everywhere but they are offering 16/1.
SlickShoes
11-05-2022, 12:56 PM
So we don’t go for these guys. Pretty obvious really.
So go for guys that win things in other countries that would like to manage hibs. That is going to be a very small list, if it even is one.
tonyrougier123
11-05-2022, 12:57 PM
Betting suspended again
I’m not convinced there are another two, I think it’s down to Appleton and Johnson as it is so difficult to keep names quiet now it would have come out if there are others.
To take that one step further, I’m not even that convinced Appleton is a serious option as he is apparently wanted by championship clubs down south. I suspect we have spoken to Appleton but we know he will take a lot of convincing and the optics of being rejected again by him wouldn’t look good at a time we really don’t need that.
I think it’ll be Johnson.
If your right about championship clubs after Appleton, Hibs have no chance, also maybe he's a better manger than a lot on here claim.
Second rate English managers are no good to hibs and Scottish football. If Johnson or Appleton come in we will be relegated next season guaranteed
Absolutely rubbish, based on what a crystal ball. Some amount of garbage on here now.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 01:04 PM
So go for guys that win things in other countries that would like to manage hibs. That is going to be a very small list, if it even is one.
Yeha much better going for guys in this country that have won hee-haw. at least it a a bigger list to choose from!
Why would Appleton or Johnstone come to Hibs?
Similar to Heckingbottom, they’ve got nothing to lose.
Turn up, do whatever they like until they’re paid off, then bugger off back down south with a few quid.
hibsforeurope
11-05-2022, 01:04 PM
Is that so?
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At least 2 more were sounded out by the club (not interviewed) but they rejected.
Tambo
11-05-2022, 01:05 PM
Kevin Thomson in talks with Raith, would he be any good at Hibs? Wouldn't be popular with some fans though.
tonyrougier123
11-05-2022, 01:05 PM
Absolutely rubbish, based on what a crystal ball. Some amount of garbage on here now.
If crystal ball gets the gig I won’t be renewing 😏
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 01:05 PM
Not really.
There will always be a couple on the edges, but in general, when Lennon was appointed, ER was buzzing.
When Keene was linked, although there were plenty of folk saying not to go anywhere near him, Hibs social media was buzzing.
You can get a general feeling, a vibe if you like.
You just need ot read this thread.
Johnstone or Appleton might be decent appointments, but neither of them is getting the juices flowing for the majority of folk.
It's like when we got Maloney. Nobody was delighted. There were loads of folk scrambling around trying to pretend it was a good move though.
Our fans generally call it spot on when it comes to managers. The club should listen to us.
Well said, bring back the good vibrations!
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:08 PM
You think it’s sad that a Hibs fan doesn’t want an ex Hearts player as manger?
I call it common sense.
Posts like your are pretty sad though, they add nothing to the discussion.
Isn't our current interim manager, and player that scored winning goal in 2016, an ex hearts player?
flash
11-05-2022, 01:10 PM
He's not the only one to have turned it down due to the signing policy/direction the club is moving in.
Yet more self publicising untruth on this forum
Silky
11-05-2022, 01:10 PM
Kevin Thomson in talks with Raith, would he be any good at Hibs? Wouldn't be popular with some fans though.
If he got us playing decent football and being competitive, I wouldn't give a ****.
You think it’s sad that a Hibs fan doesn’t want an ex Hearts player as manger?
I call it common sense.
Posts like your are pretty sad though, they add nothing to the discussion.
So if he hadn't played for Hearts he would be OK? How sad is that, gezzo let's look at who they played for first, then let's see if they would be a decent manager.
hibsforeurope
11-05-2022, 01:13 PM
Yet more self publicising untruth on this forum
untrue because you don't believe it or do you have firm evidence they didn't turn it down?
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 01:13 PM
Lee Bowyer could be on his way out at Birmingham 😁
No, No, No, I can't take any more!!
LancsHibs
11-05-2022, 01:16 PM
Isn't our current interim manager, and player that scored winning goal in 2016, an ex hearts player?
No. Never played in their first team
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 01:20 PM
Yeha much better going for guys in this country that have won hee-haw. at least it a a bigger list to choose from!
Why would Appleton or Johnstone come to Hibs?
Similar to Heckingbottom, they’ve got nothing to lose.
Turn up, do whatever they like until they’re paid off, then bugger off back down south with a few quid.
100% agree.
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:23 PM
No. Never played in their first team
Still came through their system, as did Cummings.
Do we consider then hearts players ?
Gordon Smith played for Hibs, hearts an dundee, winning championships at every club...does it matter where he came from to the other clubs?
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 01:24 PM
Kevin Thomson in talks with Raith, would he be any good at Hibs? Wouldn't be popular with some fans though.
If we could exorcise his Hun demons, I'd think about it!
MrRobot
11-05-2022, 01:26 PM
He's not the only one to have turned it down due to the signing policy/direction the club is moving in.
How many managers have we offered the job to so far despite not having held formal interviews yet?
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 01:27 PM
Isn't our current interim manager, and player that scored winning goal in 2016, an ex hearts player?
You want SDG as manager?? I don't.
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 01:28 PM
Isn't our current interim manager, and player that scored winning goal in 2016, an ex hearts player?
How many times did he play for them? I'm glad for him he escaped the evil clutches before it was too late.
hibsforeurope
11-05-2022, 01:28 PM
How many managers have we offered the job to so far despite not having held formal interviews yet?
Never said interviewed or offered the job they were sounded out to gauge interest.
mixu83
11-05-2022, 01:30 PM
Kevin Thomson in talks with Raith, would he be any good at Hibs? Wouldn't be popular with some fans though.
I'd rather have Kevin Thomson or Ian Murray than pretty much anybody else that has been mentioned. I do think the Maloney appointment has burned the fingers of our imagination with the names that have been linked.
The only hope is the papers are clueless and throwing out names until something sticks, meanwhile the club are interviewing some top notch international candidates :not worth
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 01:33 PM
Isn't our current interim manager, and player that scored winning goal in 2016, an ex hearts player?
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
raeburnhibs
11-05-2022, 01:33 PM
I'd rather have Kevin Thomson or Ian Murray than pretty much anybody else that has been mentioned. I do think the Maloney appointment has burned the fingers of our imagination with the names that have been linked.
The only hope is the papers are clueless and throwing out names until something sticks, meanwhile the club are interviewing some top notch international candidates :not worth
top notch international candidates don't come to Hibs, unfortunately the names linked are at a level (and are available) similar to our current status in the game....
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:35 PM
You want SDG as manager?? I don't.
Nope,but I'm not going to discount any player that has connections to them
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:37 PM
How many times did he play for them? I'm glad for him he escaped the evil clutches before it was too late.
Irrelevent, he still was signed to them . I'm glad he moved to man utd too . Doesn't make him a man u player tho lol
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:42 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
No I haven't, but I also respect that the manager felt he was best person for the role, despite what the fans thought.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
Micheal Stewart, eamon bannon etc and Paul Hartley went other way yet some would have him back as manager
OldEast
11-05-2022, 01:45 PM
**** you Prick !!
Haha excellent response. You're awful emotional eh? Deep breaths now.
Brown Hibs
11-05-2022, 01:48 PM
Who on earth are the 2 unknowns. I am absolutely buzzing for these guys.
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 01:48 PM
Never said interviewed or offered the job they were sounded out to gauge interest.
And they said no because of the recruitment process?
And then they told people that they'd knocked us back for that reason and they told you do you could tell us?
I'm struggling to swallow that, sorry.
Iain G
11-05-2022, 01:49 PM
I hear that Ian Gordon has been doing his badges at Large 😁
SHODAN
11-05-2022, 01:49 PM
Isn't Lee Johnson the guy we were about to sign but then Romanov offered him double the money then never played him just to spite us?
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 01:50 PM
I hear that Ian Gordon has been doing his badges at Large 😁
Better! 😁
Unseen work
11-05-2022, 01:50 PM
Can’t help but feel it will be Lee Johnson.
Just from reading about him I can see the board liking him and how he’s the main name in the media.
Stuart93
11-05-2022, 01:51 PM
Can’t help but feel it will be Lee Johnson.
Just from reading about him I can see the board liking him and how he’s the main name in the media.
Aye that’s the feeling I’m getting. I’d rather Appleton.
Just reeks of another boring Paul Heckingbottom style appointment
SHODAN
11-05-2022, 01:52 PM
Can I ask, is that just based on reading his Wikipedia page or is there more to it than that?
I wrote him off as a dud yesterday but the more digging I’ve done today the more I’ve liked what I’ve heard about him.
Not criticising your opinion by the way, I can completely understand why people are underwhelmed at the prospect.
He comes across as decidedly average in a sort of Heckingbottom/Calderwood way and there are similar parallels to how he performed at Sunderland with how Maloney did over here.
The other names being mentioned are by-and-large better options to me at face value.
stantonhibby
11-05-2022, 01:53 PM
Isn't Lee Johnson the guy we were about to sign but then Romanov offered him double the money then never played him just to spite us?
That was Chris Hackett
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:53 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
No, not forgotten Billy Brown, but the manager at the time felt he was best candidate. But if you want to talk bout players...39 players have played for both teams over the years. Being a " hibs" person means nothing. It's about being best person for the job, irrelevant of where you played, or managed , before
bingo70
11-05-2022, 01:54 PM
Isn't Lee Johnson the guy we were about to sign but then Romanov offered him double the money then never played him just to spite us?
That was Chris Hackett i think.
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 01:56 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
So if a ex hearts player brought " success " to Easter road, you wouldn't accept it?
SHODAN
11-05-2022, 01:58 PM
That was Chris Hackett i think.
Ahh right enough.
bingo70
11-05-2022, 01:59 PM
So if a ex hearts player brought " success " to Easter road, you wouldn't accept it?
What’s the Hibs equivalent of staunch?
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:02 PM
No, not forgotten Billy Brown, but the manager at the time felt he was best candidate. But if you want to talk bout players...39 players have played for both teams over the years. Being a " hibs" person means nothing. It's about being best person for the job, irrelevant of where you played, or managed , before
I've never said I want or need a 'Hibs' person for the job.
I don't want an ex-Hearts player as our manager though.
That seems like a perfectly sensible, rational, position to take.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:03 PM
So if a ex hearts player brought " success " to Easter road, you wouldn't accept it?
If, in your imaginary world this happened, there's nothing I could do about it.
I don't know how to 'not accept' a result :confused:
stantonhibby
11-05-2022, 02:04 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
Johnson played 4 games for them over 15 years ago....hardly a Hearts stalwart. Going by your logic we would never have signed Alan Gordon.
Iain G
11-05-2022, 02:05 PM
What’s the Hibs equivalent of staunch?
Proclaimed?
AugustaHibs
11-05-2022, 02:05 PM
Johnson played 4 games for them over 15 years ago....hardly a Hearts stalwart. Going by your logic we would never have signed Alan Gordon.
Or faycal rherras!
Alfred E Newman
11-05-2022, 02:05 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
Some of the best players I've seen in a Hibs shirt played for Hearts.Willie Hamilton, Alan Gordon,to name only two
Golden Bear
11-05-2022, 02:07 PM
I've never said I want or need a 'Hibs' person for the job.
I don't want an ex-Hearts player as our manager though.
That seems like a perfectly sensible, rational, position to take.
Sorry but your last sentence is not sensible and totally irrational! We have accepted and benefitted from numerous players who previously played for Hearts and I can see no reason why this shouldn't apply to the Manager's post.
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 02:08 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
"Parochial tribalism" as a F.T.B. once said.
500miles
11-05-2022, 02:08 PM
Aye that’s the feeling I’m getting. I’d rather Appleton.
Just reeks of another boring Paul Heckingbottom style appointment
To be fair to Hecky, I believe he has done well since leaving us.
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 02:08 PM
If, in your imaginary world this happened, there's nothing I could do about it.
I don't know how to 'not accept' a result :confused:
Not really imaginary as Andy Watson was Alex mclieshs assistant and brought great football and European games to Easter road... but he had hearts connections so you would have hated those nights
Stuart93
11-05-2022, 02:09 PM
To be fair to Hecky, I believe he has done well since leaving us.
Aye true, that’s no good to us though. He was pish up here
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:09 PM
Some of the best players I've seen in a Hibs shirt played for Hearts.Willie Hamilton, Alan Gordon,to name only two
Yeah, I get that. We're talking managers here though.
Would you want Levein, or Brown, or Robertson, or Cathro or anyone that's managed them before?
I wouldn't take any of them and I'd hope that the vast majority of Hibs fans would think similarly.
It doesn't even deserve discussion it's such a mental idea!!
SaulGoodman
11-05-2022, 02:10 PM
**** you Prick !!
Ooft😂
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:11 PM
Not really imaginary as Andy Watson was Alex mclieshs assistant and brought great football and European games to Easter road... but he had hearts connections so you would have hated those nights
What point are you trying to make?
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 02:12 PM
Yeah, I get that. We're talking managers here though.
Would you want Levein, or Brown, or Robertson, or Cathro or anyone that's managed them before?
I wouldn't take any of them and I'd hope that the vast majority of Hibs fans would think similarly.
It doesn't even deserve discussion it's such a mental idea!!
Sorry I've missed this but what ex Hearts manager are we discusing about being the next Hibs manager?
Unseen work
11-05-2022, 02:12 PM
What is it that some think is boring about Lee Johnson out of interest?
Didn’t Sunderland fans quite like him and thought he was going to get them promoted? He went on a bad run prior to being sacked but was still 3rd in the league.
Better win % than Ross with them too and played more attacking football.
Genuinely intrigued.
Ronniekirk
11-05-2022, 02:14 PM
Some of the best players I've seen in a Hibs shirt played for Hearts.Willie Hamilton, Alan Gordon,to name only two
You not including Ralph Callaghan
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SaulGoodman
11-05-2022, 02:14 PM
What is it that some think is boring about Lee Johnson out of interest?
Didn’t Sunderland fans quite like him and thought he was going to get them promoted? He went on a bad run prior to being sacked but was still 3rd in the league.
Better win % than Ross with them too and played more attacking football.
Genuinely intrigued.
Because people get it in their heads that we’re going to sign someone like Ronny Deila or that Knutsen guy from Bodø/Glimt.
Golden Bear
11-05-2022, 02:15 PM
Sorry I've missed this but what ex Hearts manager are we discusing about being the next Hibs manager?
Its hypothetical speak as far as I know.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:15 PM
Sorry but your last sentence is not sensible and totally irrational! We have accepted and benefitted from numerous players who previously played for Hearts and I can see no reason why this shouldn't apply to the Manager's post.
Another one, talking about players when the thread, and me are talking about managers!!
Just to be clear, all I am saying, is
I don't want an ex-Hearts player as manager. End of.
If you do, I think you're mental and need help.
Same goes for any other Hibs fan gushing over the prospect of a Hearts man being our boss.
Our BOSS.
Just think about that for a minute. Would you really be happy with that?
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:16 PM
Sorry I've missed this but what ex Hearts manager are we discusing about being the next Hibs manager?
Ex hearts players.
bingo70
11-05-2022, 02:17 PM
What is it that some think is boring about Lee Johnson out of interest?
Didn’t Sunderland fans quite like him and thought he was going to get them promoted? He went on a bad run prior to being sacked but was still 3rd in the league.
Better win % than Ross with them too and played more attacking football.
Genuinely intrigued.
I think it’s because he’s coming from league 1 in England.
I was guilty of that yesterday.
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 02:17 PM
Ex hearts players.
Ok Cathro confused me
SaulGoodman
11-05-2022, 02:17 PM
Another one, talking about players when the thread, and me are talking about managers!!
Just to be clear, all I am saying, is
I don't want an ex-Hearts player as manager. End of.
If you do, I think you're mental and need help.
Same goes for any other Hibs fan gushing over the prospect of a Hearts man being our boss.
Our BOSS.
Just think about that for a minute. Would you really be happy with that?
A hearts man? Hasn’t Danny Swanson played more games for Hearts than Johnson?
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 02:17 PM
Ex hearts players.
You mentioned Levein, Brown, Robertson and Cathro.
ozwoody
11-05-2022, 02:18 PM
What point are you trying to make?
How many hearts managers have taken them into europe/won cups in last 20/30 years? ( apart from league cup obviously)
Or have won scottish cup? You honestly wouldn't take that success down to tribalism?
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 02:18 PM
Disnae look boring - looks like a winnerhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220511/6366999361ddf37d65105398927a49bc.jpg
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ScottB
11-05-2022, 02:18 PM
At our level / budget, it's always going to be one out of;
• A rookie
• Someone from a lower level looking to step up
• Someone who has failed and needs to rebuild their rep
We just can't go out and recruit someone from the same, or bigger, size of club, who is on a roll, because they'll understandably have their eyes on a bigger prize, so hoping for someone like the Bodo / Glint manager is always a non starter.
Maloney, Stubbs, Collins and Mowbray were rookies, Hecky and Fenlon came from a lower level, Lennon and Ross were both sacked down south. Gordon seems to have ruled out any rookies, so that puts us into the other 2 options, and everyone mentioned in the press fits in one or the other, even the way out there Keane / Cocu chat are guys that failed and need to rebuild.
Personally, I don't have a problem with us looking for managers doing well at a lower level and seeing if they can step up. Sure, Johnson or Appleton isn't an 'exciting' name, but that doesn't make them a bad choice anymore than someone who was sacked in their last gig being a good one because we all know their name.
GreenCastle
11-05-2022, 02:19 PM
What is it that some think is boring about Lee Johnson out of interest?
Didn’t Sunderland fans quite like him and thought he was going to get them promoted? He went on a bad run prior to being sacked but was still 3rd in the league.
Better win % than Ross with them too and played more attacking football.
Genuinely intrigued.
I don’t think boring is the word but maybe uninspiring.
We need a character - someone who will galvanise the support. Someone who will install a work ethic and discipline to the team and earn respect straight away. We have a few players in the team who we need to empty - just not sure he will do that.
Johnson is just too nice a guy and players will walk all over him like they did with Maloney.
How he can get beat 6-0 by Bolton is a worry too. He seems to go on decent runs then awful runs.
Read this - https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2022/1/30/22908614/talking-points-can-lee-johnson-come-back-from-our-worst-ever-league-result
Appleton I think would be more strict with the group and wouldn’t have an issue making tough calls to improve us - just worry he will leave if he doesn’t get his way. He has history of this it seems though.
gbhibby
11-05-2022, 02:21 PM
Ex hearts players.
Willie McCartney managed Hearts before coming to Hibs.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:22 PM
You mentioned Levein, Brown, Robertson and Cathro.
Yeah because ozwoody turned it into chat about hearts managers.
Not gonna happen, so I'll leave it there.
He's probably buggered off back to Kickback anyways.
GreenCastle
11-05-2022, 02:23 PM
At our level / budget, it's always going to be one out of;
• A rookie
• Someone from a lower level looking to step up
• Someone who has failed and needs to rebuild their rep
We just can't go out and recruit someone from the same, or bigger, size of club, who is on a roll, because they'll understandably have their eyes on a bigger prize, so hoping for someone like the Bodo / Glint manager is always a non starter.
Maloney, Stubbs, Collins and Mowbray were rookies, Hecky and Fenlon came from a lower level, Lennon and Ross were both sacked down south. Gordon seems to have ruled out any rookies, so that puts us into the other 2 options, and everyone mentioned in the press fits in one or the other, even the way out there Keane / Cocu chat are guys that failed and need to rebuild.
Personally, I don't have a problem with us looking for managers doing well at a lower level and seeing if they can step up. Sure, Johnson or Appleton isn't an 'exciting' name, but that doesn't make them a bad choice anymore than someone who was sacked in their last gig being a good one because we all know their name.
The 2 guys being mentioned are free agents currently.
Jack Ross was a free agent.
Maloney was at Belgium but doubt we paid compensation.
It’s cheaper that way.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:23 PM
Willie McCartney managed Hearts before coming to Hibs.
Cool.
CropleyWasGod
11-05-2022, 02:23 PM
Willie McCartney managed Hearts before coming to Hibs.
He was ***** though 😉
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 02:24 PM
He was ***** though 😉
Probably deliberately! :greengrin
bingo70
11-05-2022, 02:24 PM
A hearts man? Hasn’t Danny Swanson played more games for Hearts than Johnson?
Someone posted interviews of him earlier. In one of them he spoke about the clubs he’d played for and he said something along the lines of, ‘I went north of the border for a bit where I played for Kilmarnock’. It was like he’d either forgotten or blanked out the period he played for Hearts.
That interview would have been long before he was linked to us.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:26 PM
A hearts man? Hasn’t Danny Swanson played more games for Hearts than Johnson?
No idea, I'm not even talking about Johnson anymore, just a general point!
Surprised it's garnered such a response.
I just took it as a given that Hibs wouldn't want an ex-Hearts man / player / manager / fan as our boss.
Maybe I'm in the minority on this point, but I'll happily stick to my guns :greengrin
Gordy M
11-05-2022, 02:27 PM
Have we any idea who the other 2 on the shortlist are, assuming Appleton and Johnson are the 2 others that make up the 4.
I've never said I want or need a 'Hibs' person for the job.
I don't want an ex-Hearts player as our manager though.
That seems like a perfectly sensible, rational, position to take.
Sensible, rational, blinkered more like.
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 02:28 PM
Appleton and Johnson are 6 & 8/1 for the Forest Green Rovers gig.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:28 PM
Sensible, rational, blinkered more like.
Guilty as charged. No regrets. Proud :greengrin
Appleton and Johnson are 6 & 8/1 for the Forest Green Rovers gig.
Lost their manager to Watford apparently.
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.Have you heard of Willie McCartney?
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Guilty as charged. No regrets. Proud :greengrin
At least your honest 👍
NadeAteMyLunch!
11-05-2022, 02:32 PM
No idea, I'm not even talking about Johnson anymore, just a general point!
Surprised it's garnered such a response.
I just took it as a given that Hibs wouldn't want an ex-Hearts man / player / manager / fan as our boss.
Maybe I'm in the minority on this point, but I'll happily stick to my guns :greengrin
There’s surely a difference though between a ‘Hearts man’ ie Levein, Black, Skacel and ********s like that and journeymen players that played four times for them and have had zero connection with them before or after? I agree that I wouldn’t want the former but seems silly to rule out the latter if they are the best option. No idea if Johnson is tbh
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 02:33 PM
Lost their manager to Watford apparently.
Forest Green Rovers put out a strongly worded statement
Watford fans not happy they have gone for a manager from the lower leagues of England 😁
andudare2
11-05-2022, 02:34 PM
Have you heard of Willie McCartney?
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WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:41 PM
There’s surely a difference though between a ‘Hearts man’ ie Levein, Black, Skacel and ********s like that and journeymen players that played four times for them and have had zero connection with them before or after? I agree that I wouldn’t want the former but seems silly to rule out the latter if they are the best option. No idea if Johnson is tbh
Yup, you're right.
But, and I referred to this earlier, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and emotional sometimes aren't we?
Give it a few bad results and the pressure would be 10x worse than if he had zero Hearts connections.
Would be some mad, bad coincidence if the best person for the Hibs job turned out to have played for Hearts.
There's literally 1000s of ex-players and managers out there. How on Earth do we end up looking at ex-Hearts???
Stuart93
11-05-2022, 02:42 PM
I’m getting a bit bored of it now. Just wish we’d appoint someone and get the overhaul started.
The worst thing the new guy could come out with is “every player gets a clean slate”.
B.H.F.C
11-05-2022, 02:43 PM
I’m getting a bit bored of it now. Just wish we’d appoint someone and get the overhaul started.
The worst thing the new guy could come out with is “every player gets a clean slate”.
That will almost definitely happen because a lot of them are contracted beyond the summer.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:44 PM
Have you heard of Willie McCartney?
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1.
You can only come up with 1 example?
[QUOTE=Kato;6956710]Have you heard of Willie McCartney?
Another Willie, one of our all-time greats, also managed Hearts before coming over from the dark side to manage Hibs (also successfully managed Scotland), ladies and gentlemen I give you our own Willie Ormond. He did not bad overall.
GloryGlory
11-05-2022, 02:48 PM
1.
You can only come up with 1 example?
Willie Ormond managed Hearts before he managed Hibs.
Mcbizz1998
11-05-2022, 02:50 PM
Just reading a bit of background on Johnson. Reads pretty well in terms of his progression through league 1 and up to championship level. Ultimately never worked at Sunderland but they are a bit of basket case (as much as we are at the moment).
Can’t say his name excites me but seems like a decent manager and he apparently tries to play a bit.
Stuart93
11-05-2022, 02:54 PM
That will almost definitely happen because a lot of them are contracted beyond the summer.
I’m hoping we’ll try get as much moved on as possible. We need to.
HFC93
11-05-2022, 02:57 PM
Just reading a bit of background on Johnson. Reads pretty well in terms of his progression through league 1 and up to championship level. Ultimately never worked at Sunderland but they are a bit of basket case (as much as we are at the moment).
Can’t say his name excites me but seems like a decent manager and he apparently tries to play a bit.
My thoughts as well. I actually think he could be a good appointment.
Forest Green Rovers put out a strongly worded statement
Watford fans not happy they have gone for a manager from the lower leagues of England 😁
They must have been reading this thread 😅
Ronniekirk
11-05-2022, 02:58 PM
Ok Cathro confused me
He confused everybody
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WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 02:59 PM
Willie Ormond managed Hearts before he managed Hibs.
So 2.
Who give a damn about what happened decades ago?
Why are you all clamouring for an ex Hearts guy to be our manager?
My thoughts as well. I actually think he could be a good appointment.
I've come round to that way of thinking, just want it done now.
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 03:01 PM
So 2.
Who give a damn about what happened decades ago?
Why are you all clamouring for an ex Hearts guy to be our manager?
No-one is.
They're criticising your standpoint.
I have a feeling that you're well aware of this and are just enjoying the mischief! :greengrin
HFC93
11-05-2022, 03:03 PM
So 2.
Who give a damn about what happened decades ago?
Why are you all clamouring for an ex Hearts guy to be our manager?
The guy played 4 games for Hearts ffs.
Ronniekirk
11-05-2022, 03:03 PM
Have we any idea who the other 2 on the shortlist are, assuming Appleton and Johnson are the 2 others that make up the 4.
Karl RobsonOxford United manager was quoted yesterday as someone we were keen to have on shortleet
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WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:08 PM
No-one is.
They're criticising your standpoint.
I have a feeling that you're well aware of this and are just enjoying the mischief! :greengrin
Yeah but it's a standpoint that I would expect most, if not all, Hibs fans to adopt.
You think Man Utd fans would want Pep as manager?
One of the best managers in the world but no chance he'd be accepted.
Some things just aren't done in football. This is one of these things.
I have a feeling you understand, and agree! :greengrin
Paulie Walnuts
11-05-2022, 03:09 PM
Yeah but it's a standpoint that I would expect most, if not all, Hibs fans to adopt.
You think Man Utd fans would want Pep as manager?
One of the best managers in the world but no chance he'd be accepted.
Some things just aren't done in football. This is one of these things.
I have a feeling you understand, and agree! :greengrin
Man Utd fans would absolutely love him.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:12 PM
Man Utd fans would absolutely love him.
Ok, Klopp to Everton then?
D'oh.
:greengrin
Mcbizz1998
11-05-2022, 03:14 PM
So 2.
Who give a damn about what happened decades ago?
Why are you all clamouring for an ex Hearts guy to be our manager?
Maybe everyone isn’t as sad as you are?
He played a handful of games for them, get over it. And btw, I haven’t seen much clamouring on here.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:17 PM
Maybe everyone isn’t as sad as you are?
He played a handful of games for them, get over it. And btw, I haven’t seen much clamouring on here.
Why do you want him as our manager?
LancsHibs
11-05-2022, 03:20 PM
Scotty Brown to be named next Fleetwood Town manager
andrew70
11-05-2022, 03:21 PM
Why do you want him as our manager?
Of the ones quoted he’s the one I’d want.
Good experience, style of play a bonus and won a trophy.
He played 4 times for them, who cares, if Hartley gets Cove promoted again he’d certainly be quoted when we revisit this next year after some of the other nonsense has been employed.
I’d hope for Neil Lennon, Michael O’Neill, Tony Mowbray but if not available then I can see why Hibs would be making a big play for Johnson.
WeeRussell
11-05-2022, 03:21 PM
Why do you want him as our manager?
😂😂 surely you’ve been warned for trolling by now?
Golden Bear
11-05-2022, 03:23 PM
😂😂 surely you’ve been warned for trolling by now?
Neil Lennon comes in many disguises.
😉
Mcbizz1998
11-05-2022, 03:24 PM
Why do you want him as our manager?
I don’t know that I do want him as our manager. But that’s not what we were discussing was it?
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:26 PM
😂😂 surely you’ve been warned for trolling by now?
Do you know why McBizz wants him as manager?
I'm only asking, not trolling.
Maybe he'll highlight something that makes me think, 'damn, you're right, get him in.'!!
We're on a Hibs forum and the majority of recent posts on this thread want an ex-Hearts player as manager.
The same people thought I was mad for wanting Keane, or Cocu or Lennon.
How does that work????
Who are the actual trolls????
erin go bragh
11-05-2022, 03:37 PM
Have we any idea who the other 2 on the shortlist are, assuming Appleton and Johnson are the 2 others that make up the 4.
I’m hoping one of them is David Healey ( Linfileld manager)
Other one might have the magic hat 🎩 🤣
1.
You can only come up with 1 example?That one example was the best recruiter of talent we have ever had
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So 2.
Who give a damn about what happened decades ago?
Why are you all clamouring for an ex Hearts guy to be our manager?Trolling
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Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 03:42 PM
Yeah but it's a standpoint that I would expect most, if not all, Hibs fans to adopt.
You think Man Utd fans would want Pep as manager?
One of the best managers in the world but no chance he'd be accepted.
Some things just aren't done in football. This is one of these things.
I have a feeling you understand, and agree! :greengrin
Steve Bruce is an interesting case.
He managed Sheff United and Wednesday.
He crossed the divide between Sunderland and Newcastle too.
And he was also boss at Villa, Birmingham and West Brom.
I wouldn't care if someone who played 4 times for hearts became our manager. I wouldn't be comfortable with a more dyed in the wool individual though.
I guess if he was successful, I'd hold my nose and get on with it.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:43 PM
Trolling
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Report me.
Hibbyradge
11-05-2022, 03:43 PM
Ok, Klopp to Everton then?
D'oh.
:greengrin
:tee hee:
They'd probably bite your hand off for Steven Gerrard, given the state they've found themselves!
Mcbizz1998
11-05-2022, 03:44 PM
Do you know why McBizz wants him as manager?
I'm only asking, not trolling.
Maybe he'll highlight something that makes me think, 'damn, you're right, get him in.'!!
We're on a Hibs forum and the majority of recent posts on this thread want an ex-Hearts player as manager.
The same people thought I was mad for wanting Keane, or Cocu or Lennon.
How does that work????
Who are the actual trolls????
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If you’re not a troll then maybe you can’t read?
I never said I wanted him as manager.
I just pointed out that playing for hearts (4 times) is not a massive issue to all Hibs fans. You obviously care greatly about that, but not all of us do.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:46 PM
I guess if he was successful, I'd hold my nose and get on with it.
As will I and everyone else on here I'd imagine :aok:
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 03:48 PM
[emoji23]
If you’re not a troll then maybe you can’t read?
I never said I wanted him as manager.
I just pointed out that playing for hearts (4 times) is not a massive issue to all Hibs fans. You obviously care greatly about that, but not all of us do.
So you agree with me then. Neither of us want Johnson as manager.
We got there in the end :greengrin
GloryGlory
11-05-2022, 03:49 PM
Putting this here for folk to make up their own minds - I know the source isn't completely impeccable:
https://twitter.com/Record_Sport/status/1524414351322533890
PS let the games begin.
RossScott1991
11-05-2022, 03:56 PM
What a boring uninspiring list of names
AugustaHibs
11-05-2022, 03:57 PM
Putting this here for folk to make up their own minds - I know the source isn't completely impeccable:
https://twitter.com/Record_Sport/status/1524414351322533890
PS let the games begin.
Wow. Don’t feel good about this.
4 ****ing weeks to appoint lee Johnson
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 03:58 PM
Happy enough to see how he does. Couldn’t care less that he played for Hearts four times in 2006 😂 Hardly appointing a diehard Jambo here are we?
BegbieHSC
11-05-2022, 03:58 PM
Can’t say I’m excited by a manager who’s managed 4 teams, and his win percentage rate has only made it out the 30s once, and that was for the biggest team in League 1, still couldn’t get them promoted, and got sacked after getting pumped 6-0 by ****ing Bolton.
This recruitment process has been unbelievably disappointing.
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 03:59 PM
Happy enough to see how he does. Couldn’t care less that he played for Hearts four times in 2006 [emoji23] Hardly appointing a diehard Jambo here are we?He's no dun hings
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SteveHFC
11-05-2022, 03:59 PM
Wow. Don’t feel good about this.
4 ****ing weeks to appoint lee Johnson
Agreed.
Gordy M
11-05-2022, 04:00 PM
What a boring uninspiring list of names
What is the list? Ive only seen Johnson and Appleton out a list of apparently 4? Who is the other 2, any ideas?
JohnM1875
11-05-2022, 04:01 PM
What is the list? Ive only seen Johnson and Appleton out a list of apparently 4? Who is the other 2, any ideas?
That four became three with Robinson the third name. That's if you believe the DR mind you.
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 04:02 PM
He's no dun hings
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Probably no been places either 😂
If he does a good job and gets us playing no one will care. The rest of the league isn’t littered with big names and trophy laden CV’s. I expect there to be quite the meltdown if he gets it though.
Gordy M
11-05-2022, 04:02 PM
That four became three with Robinson the third name. That's if you believe the DR mind you.
Ah right, i didnt realise he was included as he was ruled out about 12 hours after the story broke!
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:03 PM
I would've preferred Appleton but will watch the rest of they videos that someone posted up this thread
I watched one and he came across well to be honest
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Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:05 PM
Probably no been places either [emoji23]
If he does a good job and gets us playing no one will care. The rest of the league isn’t littered with big names and trophy laden CV’s. I expect there to be quite the meltdown if he gets it though.Precisely
Neilson, Alexander, McKay, Martindale, Goodwin, Coutts
Its hardly an elite group of managers we are going up against
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JamesHFC
11-05-2022, 04:09 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Lee Johnson is a leading contender.
Called it two weeks ago :agree:
MikeyS
11-05-2022, 04:09 PM
Precisely
Neilson, Alexander, McKay, Martindale, Goodwin, Coutts
Its hardly an elite group of managers we are going up against
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I can't wait for the tantrums to be honest. A few almost bubbled over last night and it was very entertaining.
Might even compile a list of those that can't wait to tell us all they'll never be back too, you know the ones, the most vocal posters on any given match day thread! 🤣
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:12 PM
Called it two weeks ago :agree:Out walks Yogi at the unveiling
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Stuart93
11-05-2022, 04:16 PM
I can't wait for the tantrums to be honest. A few almost bubbled over last night and it was very entertaining.
Might even compile a list of those that can't wait to tell us all they'll never be back too, you know the ones, the most vocal posters on any given match day thread! 🤣
See I don’t get the “can’t wait for tantrums” attitude. There’s only ever tantrums when the team aren’t doing well.
Surely you’d want the team doing well first as oppose to trying to wind people up?
Almost bubbled over last night because we lost to a team that hadn’t won a game this year who’re managed by an absolute dinosaur. Not sure what else you expect to happen in they circumstances
JamesHFC
11-05-2022, 04:16 PM
Out walks Yogi at the unveiling
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It’s Hibs so I wouldn’t be surprised.
SaulGoodman
11-05-2022, 04:18 PM
We don’t need a tactical mastermind for Scottish football. Just give me someone that plays our best players in their best positions and doesn’t try to get them playing some style they can’t cope with.
MikeyS
11-05-2022, 04:21 PM
See I don’t get the “can’t wait for tantrums” attitude. There’s only ever tantrums when the team aren’t doing well.
Surely you’d want the team doing well first as oppose to trying to wind people up?
Almost bubbled over last night because we lost to a team that hadn’t won a game this year who’re managed by an absolute dinosaur. Not sure what else you expect to happen in they circumstances
Here he is, the oracle on tantrums! You've been a very vocal panic merchant/tantrum thrower on match day threads for years now! We've no been sh*te in all that time either. As soon as a goal goes in against us you are most likely to appear behaving like the sky is falling down.
I'm not trying to wind anyone up either, I genuinely think it's hilarious grown men are going to stop supporting their team cos a certain manager takes over!
Unseen work
11-05-2022, 04:24 PM
We don’t need a tactical mastermind for Scottish football. Just give me someone that plays our best players in their best positions and doesn’t try to get them playing some style they can’t cope with.
Going by what I’ve read he doesn’t seem to be one that over complicates it but is big on his team pressing the opposition, winning the ball back quick and attacking.
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:25 PM
https://youtu.be/VAXEx07z0X8
https://youtu.be/mbdj1jEcZTU
2 videos that were posted above
And. A long interview
https://www.coachesvoice.com/lee-johnson-bristol-city-sunderland/?utm_campaign=Lee+Johnson+Lasting+success&utm_medium=Social+Organic+post&utm_source=YouTube&utm_content&utm_term
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MikeyS
11-05-2022, 04:26 PM
Going by what I’ve read he doesn’t seem to be one that over complicates it but is big on his team pressing the opposition, winning the ball back quick and attacking.
Thats as tactical as it needs to be up here too. I think we'd get the same approach from Appleton, who I think I'd prefer, but it all seems to point to Johnson at the moment.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 04:26 PM
Going by what I’ve read he doesn’t seem to be one that over complicates it but is big on his team pressing the opposition, winning the ball back quick and attacking.
I wonder if we’ll keep Gogic on at the club once his loan finishes? Him and Campbell best at pressing out of the midfield.
JohnM1875
11-05-2022, 04:27 PM
I wonder if we’ll keep Gogic on at the club once his loan finishes? Him and Campbell best at pressing out of the midfield.
Gogic not out of contract?
MikeyS
11-05-2022, 04:28 PM
I wonder if we’ll keep Gogic on at the club once his loan finishes? Him and Campbell best at pressing out of the midfield.
There is possibly a role for him but it really depends on the other 2 in beside him. Would require very good players to compensate his lack of technical ability.
Unseen work
11-05-2022, 04:29 PM
I wonder if we’ll keep Gogic on at the club once his loan finishes? Him and Campbell best at pressing out of the midfield.
Could potentially but I imagine he’ll want his own people in.
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we signed Marlon Pack who he had at Bristol. Just left Cardiff and is now out of contract, experienced centre mid who he’s praised a lot before.
Lester B
11-05-2022, 04:34 PM
Going by what I’ve read he doesn’t seem to be one that over complicates it but is big on his team pressing the opposition, winning the ball back quick and attacking.
Just spoken to a Sunderland fan who said almost the exact same words.
Certain people on here frothing about the fact that he played 4 times for Hearts are ignoring the fact that he’s a good choice based on this info above.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 04:35 PM
https://youtu.be/VAXEx07z0X8
https://youtu.be/mbdj1jEcZTU
2 videos that were posted above
And. A long interview
https://www.coachesvoice.com/lee-johnson-bristol-city-sunderland/?utm_campaign=Lee+Johnson+Lasting+success&utm_medium=Social+Organic+post&utm_source=YouTube&utm_content&utm_term
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Seems quite a positive character. There are tactically some Maloney traits there (flexibility of formation, attacking, heavy pressing) but where Maloney didn’t have the ability to implement that, Johnson will need to be able to impress that on the team.
Also think that he will understand what it takes to compete at a club like Hibs better than Maloney. I just hope that what his style translates to the game up here.
Would have preferred Appleton but will look forward to seeing what he does and it can get us with “fire in our belly and ice in our heads” then I’m happy with that.
MWHIBBIES
11-05-2022, 04:38 PM
Very happy we're learning towards a genuine football manager, rather than a sky pundit or random coach.
Broken Gnome
11-05-2022, 04:39 PM
I can't think of too many non-OF managers who've even been remote tinged with this excitement or gold-dust that we seem to be craving.
They're not very inspiring names. That's where we are at the moment. Pretty much symbolic of the league as well, it's not just a Hibs problem.
Johnson or Appleton are perfectly capable of being good managers in this league. They could equally be crap. Slightly similar to someone earlier in the thread who said it's not exactly world-beaters our new manager will be up against, just because whoever it is isn't relatively A-list doesn't mean we won't get a good gig out of them.
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 04:41 PM
We don’t need a tactical mastermind for Scottish football. Just give me someone that plays our best players in their best positions and doesn’t try to get them playing some style they can’t cope with.
In a nutshell.
Since452
11-05-2022, 04:41 PM
Couldn't give a **** if he's played 4 or 400 games for Hearts if he does the business as our manager.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 04:42 PM
I’m pleased we don’t seem to have gone for someone who wants to reinvent the wheel. If we want to press, win it back, get it forward and get shots on goal I’m happy with that. Football is a simple game.
Stuart93
11-05-2022, 04:42 PM
Here he is, the oracle on tantrums! You've been a very vocal panic merchant/tantrum thrower on match day threads for years now! We've no been sh*te in all that time either. As soon as a goal goes in against us you are most likely to appear behaving like the sky is falling down.
I'm not trying to wind anyone up either, I genuinely think it's hilarious grown men are going to stop supporting their team cos a certain manager takes over!
I’ve actually been a lot less vocal on match threads this season but sometimes need to keep up appearances.
I reckon everyone just wants hibs to do well. The us and them narrative on this site is incredibly apparent these days.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 04:48 PM
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/lee-johnson.1534270/page-25
Fifth post on this thread is a bit concerning.
JimBHibees
11-05-2022, 04:49 PM
How many times has a manager successfully crossed a 2 team city as a manager and been a success?
There's a reason it doesn't happen. Tribalism.
Have you forgotten about Billy Brown and his split loyalties before the cup final? I haven't.
Sometimes, as football fans, we're allowed to be a little bit irrational and let emotions take over. If I had my way, I wouldn't sign any ex-Hearts players.
Huge difference between a player that played 4 games and Billy Brown. Johnson will be judged on how we do not a few months he had as a player.
Wasn’t over fused for LJ however having watched his clips posted earlier he seems to come across very well!
Mind you he’ll need to players to implement what he wants so hopefully a few or 6 leaving and some quality inbound!
Is it official yet??
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Unseen work
11-05-2022, 04:50 PM
Excluding the old firm the managers are
Robbie Neilson
Malky Mackay
David Martindale
Graham Alexander
Tam Courts
Mark McGhee
Callum Davidson
Stephen Robinson
Jim Goodwin
Lee Johnson is no worse than any of them and you could argue him being better thought of than the others.
He’ll be absolutely fine here and will do good if and it’s a big if we sign good players.
We can talk about tactics etc in Scotland but if you’ve got good players and play with an intensity you’ll do good.
Could potentially but I imagine he’ll want his own people in.
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we signed Marlon Pack who he had at Bristol. Just left Cardiff and is now out of contract, experienced centre mid who he’s praised a lot before.
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Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:55 PM
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/lee-johnson.1534270/page-25
Fifth post on this thread is a bit concerning.Army training camp?
Roy Keane copied Lee.
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Keyser Sauzee
11-05-2022, 04:56 PM
I’m lost in all this now, who is the current favourites for the job?
Callum_62
11-05-2022, 04:57 PM
I’m lost in all this now, who is the current favourites for the job?Lee Johnson apparently
Ex Bristol City, Sunderland and Hearts Legend.
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WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 04:59 PM
Huge difference between a player that played 4 games and Billy Brown. Johnson will be judged on how we do not a few months he had as a player.
Agreed.
And if he does well I'll quickly forget about his Hearts connections.
If he's as bad as Maloney though he'll get way more stick because of his past.
That's the way it goes.
JohnM1875
11-05-2022, 05:03 PM
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/lee-johnson.1534270/page-25
Fifth post on this thread is a bit concerning.
Wish I'd never read that to be honest. They actually hate him.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 05:03 PM
Out of all the managers, and out of work managers, this list of 4 is the best we could come up with?
I'd really love to know what the thought process of everyone at Hibs is.
Can't get my head around it at all.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 05:06 PM
Wish I'd never read that to be honest. They actually hate him.
Appleton has been popular at every club he’s been at. Why not him I don’t know.
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:09 PM
Out of all the managers, and out of work managers, this list of 4 is the best we could come up with?
I'd really love to know what the thought process of everyone at Hibs is.
Can't get my head around it at all.
Shambles ain’t it
Green Reaper
11-05-2022, 05:11 PM
Wish I'd never read that to be honest. They actually hate him.
Me too, the rant from the Bristol boy at the beginning seems to have come true when you jump to the end of the thread.
Greenworld
11-05-2022, 05:11 PM
Gogic not out of contract?Yes
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MWHIBBIES
11-05-2022, 05:13 PM
Agreed.
And if he does well I'll quickly forget about his Hearts connections.
If he's as bad as Maloney though he'll get way more stick because of his past.
That's the way it goes.
We get it.
GreenPJ
11-05-2022, 05:14 PM
Out of all the managers, and out of work managers, this list of 4 is the best we could come up with?
I'd really love to know what the thought process of everyone at Hibs is.
Can't get my head around it at all.
So maybe Jimmy Calderwood, Stuart Baxter (not sure he is out of a job), Yogi, JC?
We hear that we can't take a chance on a rookie (it seems the short list aren't rookies)
We hear that they need knowledge of Scottish football (at least Johnson seems to have that from a playing perspective with Killie)
We hear that they need to play attacking football (not sure any team is any different but seems that Johnson seems to also be a fan of that)
We hear about stability (I think if he has some luck and some shrewd signings Johnson would be happy to be here for a few years with European football a possibility that he is unlikely to get in English football)
Every appointment is a gamble - sometimes really good managers don't work out at a club and other times managers just suit a club (e.g. Stubbs). I am hoping whoever it is suits our club.
JohnM1875
11-05-2022, 05:15 PM
Yes
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Thought so. We've missed him in my opinion.
Northernhibee
11-05-2022, 05:17 PM
Me too, the rant from the Bristol boy at the beginning seems to have come true when you jump to the end of the thread.
I desperately hope it’s wrong, because it reads like Maloney all over again.
I hear he’s given it the “I like attacking football” chat again and our two interviewers have fallen for it again.
Desperately hope that’s just typical English league club arrogance and league one clubs expecting Klopp from their managers.
Greenworld
11-05-2022, 05:18 PM
Karl RobsonOxford United manager was quoted yesterday as someone we were keen to have on shortleet
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JamesHFC
11-05-2022, 05:20 PM
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/lee-johnson.1534270/page-25
Fifth post on this thread is a bit concerning.
The guy obviously just doesn’t like him. His team have regressed massively since Johnson left. He also didn’t mention Tammy Abraham who Johnson brought in during his first season there who was fantastic.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 05:26 PM
We get it.
What's up?
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 05:29 PM
EEN playing down the Johnson story. Still to meet Appleton and a couple others in the next few days.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:29 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
We're ****ed.
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 05:29 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
We're ****ed.
We aren’t.
JamesHFC
11-05-2022, 05:30 PM
Excluding the old firm the managers are
Robbie Neilson
Malky Mackay
David Martindale
Graham Alexander
Tam Courts
Mark McGhee
Callum Davidson
Stephen Robinson
Jim Goodwin
Lee Johnson is no worse than any of them and you could argue him being better thought of than the others.
He’ll be absolutely fine here and will do good if and it’s a big if we sign good players.
We can talk about tactics etc in Scotland but if you’ve got good players and play with an intensity you’ll do good.
Spot on. He also did a lot better job at Bristol City than Derek McInnes.
04Sauzee
11-05-2022, 05:30 PM
EEN playing down the Johnson story. Still to meet Appleton and a couple others in the next few days.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
By the end of next week? I was hoping for someone in by the end of this week tbh.
Jim44
11-05-2022, 05:32 PM
My positive (:greengrin) outlook. We will get a manager who will take us by the scruff of the neck with full support from RG and we’ll all be happy this time next year. On a less positive note, RG will cock it up once more and he himself will have to depart these shores forever, having sold out to someone with the gonads to purge us from top to bottom and get us back to where we belong. Sadly, I think the latter will be the reality with us having to suffer yet another depressing season.
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:33 PM
We aren’t.
We will see.
None of these names Appleton included are giving me good vibes. Just read what the fans of their previous clubs think.
yerauldda
11-05-2022, 05:34 PM
Literally the antithesis of what we need at the moment. Sacked from his last two jobs, played for Hearts, seriously disliked by his last two fan bases.
I’ve not really wanted to bash the board & Kensell in the same way others have because everyone gets appointments wrong, it happens. But I think there’s an acknowledgment that this appointment is absolutely critical to the club. Attendances are plummeting and the club is in dire need of a boost and if Johnson is to be appointed I think you’ll struggle to find one person who’s excited to get back to Easter Road.
Not been this disillusioned with the club in a long, long time. Would obviously be absolutely delighted to be proved wrong, but I think such an uninteresting appointment is only going to further damage the atmosphere around the club.
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 05:34 PM
We will see.
None of these names Appleton included are giving me good vibes. Just read what the fans of their previous clubs think.
I get a better feeling from Appleton having read a bit about them but I don’t think any of them scream “we’re ****ed”.
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:37 PM
I get a better feeling from Appleton having read a bit about them but I don’t think any of them scream “we’re ****ed”.
Will you still be saying that if we are bottom of the league come Christmas or something next season?
HendoDelivered
11-05-2022, 05:38 PM
We will see.
None of these names Appleton included are giving me good vibes. Just read what the fans of their previous clubs think.
I take it you haven’t heard what fans have had to say about Appleton from his time at Lincoln and Oxford? Fans like him a lot.
Allant1981
11-05-2022, 05:40 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
We're ****ed.
Jesus, you are a drama queen
JohnM1875
11-05-2022, 05:41 PM
The guy obviously just doesn’t like him. His team have regressed massively since Johnson left. He also didn’t mention Tammy Abraham who Johnson brought in during his first season there who was fantastic.
See you'd think that. But then read the last few pages and all the Sunderland fans are echoing his comments.
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 05:43 PM
Literally the antithesis of what we need at the moment. Sacked from his last two jobs, played for Hearts, seriously disliked by his last two fan bases.
I’ve not really wanted to bash the board & Kensell in the same way others have because everyone gets appointments wrong, it happens. But I think there’s an acknowledgment that this appointment is absolutely critical to the club. Attendances are plummeting and the club is in dire need of a boost and if Johnson is to be appointed I think you’ll struggle to find one person who’s excited to get back to Easter Road.
Not been this disillusioned with the club in a long, long time. Would obviously be absolutely delighted to be proved wrong, but I think such an uninteresting appointment is only going to further damage the atmosphere around the club.
Whilst I agree with all of this, I'm clinging to the hope that RG is a smart guy and is paying close attention to the fan base.
Appreciate a lot of people will think that's nonsense, but for me it's vital this time around.
If the majority of the fan base has a head scratching, wtf moment when the new man is appointed, he'll be fighting an uphill battle from day one.
If we appoint someone that makes us go 'ya dancer', he'll have a bit of a honeymoon period.
Alex Trager
11-05-2022, 05:43 PM
Will you still be saying that if we are bottom of the league come Christmas or something next season?
And to flip that, will you still be saying that if we are top at xmas?
WhileTheChief..
11-05-2022, 05:46 PM
Excluding the old firm the managers are
Robbie Neilson
Malky Mackay
David Martindale
Graham Alexander
Tam Courts
Mark McGhee
Callum Davidson
Stephen Robinson
Jim Goodwin
Lee Johnson is no worse than any of them and you could argue him being better thought of than the others.
He’ll be absolutely fine here and will do good if and it’s a big if we sign good players.
We can talk about tactics etc in Scotland but if you’ve got good players and play with an intensity you’ll do good.
Should we just go with one of them then if they're all on a par with Johnson? Save a lot of hassle and we'd know what we're getting.
I'd pick Jim Goodwin for his St Mirren connections.
SHODAN
11-05-2022, 05:46 PM
I get a better feeling from Appleton having read a bit about them but I don’t think any of them scream “we’re ****ed”.
They way I see it they all scream "meh".
Alex Trager
11-05-2022, 05:47 PM
They way I see it they all scream "meh".
There are only two people quoted so far?
I still can’t understand why we are not looking at McInnes. Madness
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 05:51 PM
Will you still be saying that if we are bottom of the league come Christmas or something next season?
Well no, because we’ll be bottom of the league. Proclaiming we’re ****ed before we’ve even appointed a manager or attempted to rebuild this mess of a squad is a completely different story.
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:51 PM
And to flip that, will you still be saying that if we are top at xmas?
We both know that’s not happening
Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:52 PM
Well no, because we’ll be bottom of the league. Proclaiming we’re ****ed before we’ve even appointed a manager is a completely different story.
Yes cos everything is great right now and based on this season I have absolutely zero faith in the chairman, CEO and the recruitment team to get it right.
I’m lost in all this now, who is the current favourites for the job?
Your guess is as good as mine, this morning I thought it was Appleton, now appears to be Johnstone 🤔
Ronniekirk
11-05-2022, 05:54 PM
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/lee-johnson.1534270/page-25
Fifth post on this thread is a bit concerning.
Just read it ffs if accurate I would be very wary
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Hibs90
11-05-2022, 05:54 PM
Jesus, you are a drama queen
Or maybe I’ve just got a point. We will see.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-lee-johnson-impresses-but-club-chiefs-set-to-meet-with-three-more-candidates-3690302
We're ****ed.
Stop being silly
Heisenberg
11-05-2022, 05:56 PM
Yes cos everything is great right now and based on this season I have absolutely zero faith in the chairman, CEO and the recruitment team to get it right.
I didn’t say everything was great at the moment either. I suppose I’m just choosing to be a bit more positive than you. I’m happy to wait and see who comes in and what happens with the squad before jumping in two footed with the “we’re ****ed” shouts.
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