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Northernhibee
07-05-2022, 08:00 PM
I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

Threatening to buy a Hibs season ticket if they don’t like the movie at their local cinema.

Libby Hibby
07-05-2022, 08:08 PM
I’m not renewing for next season if the factors don’t cut the common grounds next week

stevie-bee
07-05-2022, 08:11 PM
There’s lots of other things I’ll be able to fill my time with should Mackay get the job and I’ll get way more enjoyment out them than I would going along to support that piece of ****.

I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,

MWHIBBIES
07-05-2022, 08:13 PM
I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,

He's a **** manager as well, don't forget that. Even Maloney beat him.

MrSmith
07-05-2022, 08:17 PM
Bannermans has live music on at 3pm on Saturdays, beer and music is good for me instead of uninspiring garbage football.

Hibby Kay-Yay
07-05-2022, 08:17 PM
He's a **** manager as well, don't forget that. Even Maloney beat him.

Maloney beat him into the bottom six. Take that Mackay :na na:

Paulie Walnuts
07-05-2022, 08:18 PM
I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,

Aye, they were hilarious right enough.

Hibby Kay-Yay
07-05-2022, 08:18 PM
Bannermans has live music on at 3pm on Saturdays, beer and music is good for me instead of uninspiring garbage football.

Enjoy.

Victor
07-05-2022, 08:19 PM
I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,

A few ‘funny text’. Racist and bigoted, yes , funny no.


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MrSmith
07-05-2022, 08:21 PM
Enjoy.

I do, regularly, thanks :D

SaulGoodman
07-05-2022, 08:23 PM
I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,

Sorry dude but if you’re sending racist texts then you are, in fact, a racist.

MrSmith
07-05-2022, 08:29 PM
Sorry dude but if you’re sending racist texts then you are, in fact, a racist.

I disagree with your statement because context is important. Stupidity, ignorance, lack of education, upbringing, experience and location has to be taken into account before we brand someone either a bigot or racist. We are all too quick to judge without knowing the circumstances surrounding the instance. Walk a mile in my moccasins please :D Redemption anyone?

bod
07-05-2022, 08:32 PM
I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

Maybe not all weirdos or oddballs but I hope they’ll all return if we’re up near the top & are playing well

Callum_62
07-05-2022, 08:37 PM
I don't understand why most are against mackay getting the job, he send a few funny text to somebody who was meant to be his mate,

I bet must people who are against him get texts like that on WhatsApp and laugh at them , it doesn't mean you are racist or sexist ,Hahha, some take that is

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SlickShoes
07-05-2022, 08:39 PM
I disagree with your statement because context is important. Stupidity, ignorance, lack of education, upbringing, experience and location has to be taken into account before we brand someone either a bigot or racist. We are all too quick to judge without knowing the circumstances surrounding the instance. Walk a mile in my moccasins please :D Redemption anyone?

Those are all excuses for being racist, just admit the racism address it and learn from it, become a better person.

MrSmith
07-05-2022, 08:43 PM
Those are all excuses for being racist, just admit the racism address it and learn from it, become a better person.

They are not excuses, they are circumstances but I do agree with the admission aspect of your statement as that is where redemption comes from. Is Malky MacKay same as Tommy Robinson?

Mcbizz1998
07-05-2022, 08:47 PM
There’s lots of other things I’ll be able to fill my time with should Mackay get the job and I’ll get way more enjoyment out them than I would going along to support that piece of ****.

Well done, you are so virtuous [emoji23]

BobMilne
07-05-2022, 08:54 PM
They are not excuses, they are circumstances but I do agree with the admission aspect of your statement as that is where redemption comes from. Is Malky MacKay same as Tommy Robinson?

It’s quite pathetic seeing someone write trying to defend a racist prick because it might suit a narrative

MrSmith
07-05-2022, 08:55 PM
It’s quite pathetic seeing someone write trying to defend a racist prick because it might suit a narrative

Woosh!

eastterrace
07-05-2022, 09:05 PM
Bannermans has live music on at 3pm on Saturdays, beer and music is good for me instead of uninspiring garbage football.bye enjoy your Saturdays .

MrSmith
07-05-2022, 09:07 PM
bye enjoy your Saturdays .

Thanks, I do :D

eastterrace
07-05-2022, 09:27 PM
Thanks, I do :D
Good you won’t be missed but bannermans will get an extra £40

Brightside
07-05-2022, 09:29 PM
Bannermans has live music on at 3pm on Saturdays, beer and music is good for me instead of uninspiring garbage football.

Enjoy

bingo70
07-05-2022, 09:38 PM
I’ve no idea what anybodys on about on this thread any more. Much easier to keep up when we were just arguing about Roy Keane.

Hopefully the Sunday papers throw up a new name or two to get the thread back on track.

Since452
07-05-2022, 09:43 PM
Only a week to find out. I'm glad the club have had a bit of breathing space for this. So important that they get the right person in.

IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 09:45 PM
There are obviously lots of possible new managers for us so no need to appoint Mackay or McInnes which would just bring other problems . I think the board were right to look for an alternative to Ross but the timing was terrible . I think the appointment of Maloney was a good one at the wrong time and even then getting rid of him was a rushed decision so now we`re in a situation where RG may feel forced to take someone like Mackay or McInnes who will understandably be rejected by a lot of supporters though I`m still hoping we`ll wait a bit and find someone who will improve the team without alienating the support and attracting bad publicity . No rumours of Scandinavian managers for example .

bingo70
07-05-2022, 09:46 PM
Only a week to find out. I'm glad the club have had a bit of breathing space for this. So important that they get the right person in.

I agree.

I wonder if there’s any relevance to the fact seasons will be finishing now. If a manager was doing well at a club they’d want to see it out. I have a feeling we might go for somebody currently in a role. Don’t know who though.

Callum_62
07-05-2022, 09:47 PM
I agree.

I wonder if there’s any relevance to the fact seasons will be finishing now. If a manager was doing well at a club they’d want to see it out. I have a feeling we might go for somebody currently in a role. Don’t know who though.Joey Barton [emoji51][emoji44]

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Ozyhibby
07-05-2022, 09:50 PM
McInnes would be my choice. Done a terrific job at Aberdeen and appears to be doing well at Killie. Club says it wants an experienced manger and he fits the bill. And I bet he would replace our centre mids first chance he got.


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IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 09:53 PM
Only a week to find out. I'm glad the club have had a bit of breathing space for this. So important that they get the right person in.If necessary , more than a week . Wait till other leagues are finished . See who`s available and still interested despite two highly questionable sackings in last 6 months . Being realistic , we`re not looking for a manager for the next four years . If we find one who gets best out of players and gets us entertained and we get less injuries than this season we`ll be challenging for 4th at least . Hopefully this time next year we`ll be looking forward to Europe and a cup final after an entertaining season whether we`re looking for a new manager again or not .

hibee-boys
07-05-2022, 09:53 PM
There’s lots of other things I’ll be able to fill my time with should Mackay get the job and I’ll get way more enjoyment out them than I would going along to support that piece of ****.

Hell mend anyone who makes a mistake eh? 3 texts out of 6,000 checked were very evidently racist, no denying that, but it hardly evidences a systematic pattern of racist behaviour, for goodness sake the guy has managed black players for years, very successfully by the look it, I’m surprised they’ve all not downed tools or refused to work for someone like him.

I’ve been going to the football for 30 plus years, like I’m sure many on here, I look back in horror at some of the filth that came out of my mouth in days gone by, suppose we should be branded racist’s and homophonic for the remainder of our days according to your standards? The guy came out and sincerely apologised, he was put under investigation, he’s obviously missed out on other jobs in football, from what I can see he’s done his best to right his wrongs.

Mcbizz1998
07-05-2022, 09:55 PM
Hell mend anyone who makes a mistake eh? 3 texts out of 6,000 checked were very evidently racist, no denying that, but it hardly evidences a systematic pattern of racist behaviour, for goodness sake the guy has managed black players for years, very successfully by the look it, I’m surprised they’ve all not downed tools or refused to work for someone like him.

I’ve been going to the football for 30 plus years, like I’m sure many on here, I look back in horror at some of the filth that came out of my mouth in days gone by, suppose we should be branded racist’s and homophonic for the remainder of our days according to your standards? The guy came out and sincerely apologised, he was put under investigation, he’s obviously missed out on other jobs in football, from what I can see he’s done his best to right his wrongs.

Well said mate.

Brightside
07-05-2022, 10:02 PM
Well said mate.

He’s a racist.

B.H.F.C
07-05-2022, 10:24 PM
If necessary , more than a week . Wait till other leagues are finished . See who`s available and still interested despite two highly questionable sackings in last 6 months . Being realistic , we`re not looking for a manager for the next four years . If we find one who gets best out of players and gets us entertained and we get less injuries than this season we`ll be challenging for 4th at least . Hopefully this time next year we`ll be looking forward to Europe and a cup final after an entertaining season whether we`re looking for a new manager again or not .

Why wait? For someone to be sacked for being pish? Out with our own league, all the leagues we could get a manager from are done.

hibee-boys
07-05-2022, 10:36 PM
He’s a racist.

Valuable contribution👏🥱

IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 10:38 PM
Why wait? For someone to be sacked for being pish? Out with our own league, all the leagues we could get a manager from are done.Our next manager will have been sacked by at least one club ( for " being pish " as you put it or because club directors didn`t have patience like ours with Maloney or because of long term problems ) or will have little or no managerial experience . Lots of leagues to finish in next 2 months in Europe plus leagues in Ireland and Scandinavia which have just started . Or what about Clarke after Scotland game on 1st June or other international managers ?

Northernhibee
07-05-2022, 10:43 PM
Our next manager will have been sacked by at least one club ( for " being pish " as you put it or because club directors didn`t have patience like ours with Maloney or because of long term problems ) or will have little or no managerial experience . Lots of leagues to finish in next 2 months in Europe plus leagues in Ireland and Scandinavia which have just started . Or what about Clarke after Scotland game on 1st June or other international managers ?

Maloney was sacked for being as pish than the likes of Butcher and Calderwood, nothing to do with patience.

B.H.F.C
07-05-2022, 10:50 PM
Our next manager will have been sacked by at least one club ( for " being pish " as you put it or because club directors didn`t have patience like ours with Maloney or because of long term problems ) or will have little or no managerial experience . Lots of leagues to finish in next 2 months in Europe plus leagues in Ireland and Scandinavia which have just started . Or what about Clarke after Scotland game on 1st June or other international managers ?

Not got a problem with taking a manager that has been sacked at some point.

We don’t have loads of time to wait though. Pre season will start I just over a month. We need to get this sorted in the next couple of weeks.

I take it you’re not being serious when you mention Clarke btw.

Dmas
07-05-2022, 10:56 PM
Not got a problem with taking a manager that has been sacked at some point.

We don’t have loads of time to wait though. Pre season will start I just over a month. We need to get this sorted in the next couple of weeks.

I take it you’re not being serious when you mention Clarke btw.


RG has said from the start, we rushed it last time it will be different this time, SDG has been announced till end of season

sunshinejim
07-05-2022, 10:56 PM
Hell mend anyone who makes a mistake eh? 3 texts out of 6,000 checked were very evidently racist, no denying that, but it hardly evidences a systematic pattern of racist behaviour, for goodness sake the guy has managed black players for years, very successfully by the look it, I’m surprised they’ve all not downed tools or refused to work for someone like him.

I’ve been going to the football for 30 plus years, like I’m sure many on here, I look back in horror at some of the filth that came out of my mouth in days gone by, suppose we should be branded racist’s and homophonic for the remainder of our days according to your standards? The guy came out and sincerely apologised, he was put under investigation, he’s obviously missed out on other jobs in football, from what I can see he’s done his best to right his wrongs.

I agree with you on the 'when are folk allowed to live in the present and not their past'. I cannot stand gossips and grasses. The guy's apologised and tried to get on with his life and employment.

Live and let live is my motto.

Hibernia&Alba
07-05-2022, 11:14 PM
I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

Spend Saturday afternoons posing in front of a full length mirror in the wife's underwear....or is that just me? :offski:

IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 11:14 PM
Not got a problem with taking a manager that has been sacked at some point.

We don’t have loads of time to wait though. Pre season will start I just over a month. We need to get this sorted in the next couple of weeks.

I take it you’re not being serious when you mention Clarke btw.As with any managerial appointment , time we take will depend on who is available . If we want a quick appointment we`ll offer job to managers who are from clubs which pay much less than us or to managers who have had other problems which limit the number of offers they`ll get from other clubs . If we`re prepared to wait a while to see who is available after seasons end in most of Europe without forgetting about summer league managers in Ireland etc we`ll have more options . We have SDG and Eddie May who have already managed us for short periods and Steve Kean who has far more managerial experience than many of the possible candidates to cover .

B.H.F.C
07-05-2022, 11:17 PM
RG has said from the start, we rushed it last time it will be different this time, SDG has been announced till end of season

Aye I know he is going to take the team until the end of the season (which is only a week away). Nothing to stop us appointing someone this week or the following week though. Need to get it sorted with how soon next season follows on from this one. My concern is we go to the other end of the scale wher we talk to that many folk that we don’t actually know what we want.

B.H.F.C
07-05-2022, 11:22 PM
As with any managerial appointment , time we take will depend on who is available . If we want a quick appointment we`ll offer job to managers who are from clubs which pay much less than us or to managers who have had other problems which limit the number of offers they`ll get from other clubs . If we`re prepared to wait a while to see who is available after seasons end in most of Europe without forgetting about summer league managers in Ireland etc we`ll have more options . We have SDG and Eddie May who have already managed us for short periods and Steve Kean who has far more managerial experience than many of the possible candidates to cover .

We don’t need folk to cover. We need leadership and someone in to start rebuilding us. And to encourage folk to buy season tickets.

We don’t have loads of time to waste with how quick the season comes round. Whoever comes in has a big rebuild so we can’t **** about, waiting and waiting.

xyz23jc
07-05-2022, 11:27 PM
Spend Saturday afternoons posing in front of a full length mirror in the wife's underwear....or is that just me? :offski:

TMI....Lol! :greengrin

IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 11:32 PM
Aye I know he is going to take the team until the end of the season (which is only a week away). Nothing to stop us appointing someone this week or the following week though. Need to get it sorted with how soon next season follows on from this one. My concern is we go to the other end of the scale wher we talk to that many folk that we don’t actually know what we want.Nothing to stop us except best candidates still working and considering other options . Alternative is to offer job to managers who won`t get many offers if any from other clubs of our size cause of past record or non managerial problems like Mackay . Crazy to think we sacked Maloney at split but we just have to hope we find someone to do a decent job for next season ( forget long term managers ) while helping long term plans .

B.H.F.C
07-05-2022, 11:38 PM
Nothing to stop us except best candidates still working and considering other options . Alternative is to offer job to managers who won`t get many offers if any from other clubs of our size cause of past record or non managerial problems like Mackay . Crazy to think we sacked Maloney at split but we just have to hope we find someone to do a decent job for next season ( forget long term managers ) while helping long term plans .

We’re reported be holding final interviews this week. All I’m hoping for is that we conclude that quickly.

I don’t think we’re waiting on anyone becoming available. Anyone we want will be available now.

IberianHibernian
07-05-2022, 11:46 PM
We’re reported be holding final interviews this week. All I’m hoping for is that we conclude that quickly.

I don’t think we’re waiting on anyone becoming available. Anyone we want will be available now.Any decent candidate will have other options including staying at their present club in some cases . Some will be available now , others in a few weeks after they`ve finished season or international matches . Wouldn`t be surprised if we`ve already offered someone the job but can`t announce it yet .

Hibernia&Alba
07-05-2022, 11:59 PM
TMI....Lol! :greengrin

Aye, indiscreet :greengrin:greengrin

sunshinejim
08-05-2022, 12:00 AM
Any decent candidate will have other options including staying at their present club in some cases . Some will be available now , others in a few weeks after they`ve finished season or international matches . Wouldn`t be surprised if we`ve already offered someone the job but can`t announce it yet .

Welcome aboard Derek McInnes. He works his butt off and is utterly focussed on achieving the best that he can. Ambitious, very hard working and knowledgeable of the Scottish football game. Right man at the right time for Hibernian.

Forza Fred
08-05-2022, 04:56 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.

Callum_62
08-05-2022, 05:05 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.Why wouldnt you want him in the job?

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Billy Whizz
08-05-2022, 05:37 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.

Could be a scoop for you Fred, maybe Hibs think he’s the new “Ange”

ChilliEater
08-05-2022, 05:40 AM
Could be a scoop for you Fred, maybe Hibs think he’s the new “Ange”

He's not.

He's the new Levein.

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 06:11 AM
Hell mend anyone who makes a mistake eh? 3 texts out of 6,000 checked were very evidently racist, no denying that, but it hardly evidences a systematic pattern of racist behaviour, for goodness sake the guy has managed black players for years, very successfully by the look it, I’m surprised they’ve all not downed tools or refused to work for someone like him.

I’ve been going to the football for 30 plus years, like I’m sure many on here, I look back in horror at some of the filth that came out of my mouth in days gone by, suppose we should be branded racist’s and homophonic for the remainder of our days according to your standards? The guy came out and sincerely apologised, he was put under investigation, he’s obviously missed out on other jobs in football, from what I can see he’s done his best to right his wrongs.

A mistake? Did his fingers just accidentally compose that message? There was no mitigating factors that lead to him saying it. These were his quite clearly deep rooted views on black people, Asian people, women and Jewish people. There was numerous comments, not just one. This was no mistake.

I’m sure most racists don’t say racist things the majority of the time, I can’t say i find the fact his other 5997 texts weren’t racist as impressive as you seem to.

Mackay managed and even signed black players before he made his racist comments so the fact he has signed or managed some since doesn’t prove he’s not a racist.

If what you said was completely unprovoked, deep rooted racist/bigoted/sexist comments then yes, I’d say you should be. Mackays comments weren’t some daft slip of the tongue in the heat of the moment.

The guy is a racist piece of **** and his apology only came about because he got caught. **** him.

Since452
08-05-2022, 06:14 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.

He was in the wrong country then 😉

bingo70
08-05-2022, 06:29 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.

You’ll know much more about him than me but on paper he’s someone I quite fancied for the job.

From looking at Wikipedia, it look like his record in club football is decent?

Brizo
08-05-2022, 06:51 AM
A mistake? Did his fingers just accidentally compose that message? There was no mitigating factors that lead to him saying it. These were his quite clearly deep rooted views on black people, Asian people, women and Jewish people. There was numerous comments, not just one. This was no mistake.

I’m sure most racists don’t say racist things the majority of the time, I can’t say i find the fact his other 5997 texts weren’t racist as impressive as you seem to.

Mackay managed and even signed black players before he made his racist comments so the fact he has signed or managed some since doesn’t prove he’s not a racist.

If what you said was completely unprovoked, deep rooted racist/bigoted/sexist comments then yes, I’d say you should be. Mackays comments weren’t some daft slip of the tongue in the heat of the moment.

The guy is a racist piece of **** and his apology only came about because he got caught. **** him.

While racism is unacceptable at any age the additional and most damming factor for me was that Mackay was a middle-aged man when he made these comments, one who knew he was the public face of his club and was in a position of responsibility.

To be caught having made multiple comments shows this was no one-off uncharacteristic mistake. We can surely do better than him both morally and ability wise.

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 07:17 AM
While racism is unacceptable at any age the additional and most damming factor for me was that Mackay was a middle-aged man when he made these comments, one who knew he was the public face of his club and was in a position of responsibility.

To be caught having made multiple comments shows this was no one-off uncharacteristic mistake. We can surely do better than him both morally and ability wise.

:agree:

GloryGlory
08-05-2022, 07:26 AM
Could just be an entirely unconnected coincidence, but the Sydney based outgoing Socceroos manager, Graham Arnold, was in Scotland the week Hibs were doing interviews.

Don't suggest for a minute I'd like him in the job, but I don't reckon either that he traveled half way round the world just to watch the Celtic v Hearts game.

Didn't Hibs do the interviews in London? :greengrin

Percy Vere
08-05-2022, 07:40 AM
While racism is unacceptable at any age the additional and most damming factor for me was that Mackay was a middle-aged man when he made these comments, one who knew he was the public face of his club and was in a position of responsibility.

To be caught having made multiple comments shows this was no one-off uncharacteristic mistake. We can surely do better than him both morally and ability wise.

I agree totally that racism, homophobia and sexism in all its forms is simply unacceptable.
I’ve been reading the comments about Mackay and as someone who believes in forgiveness and that people can change for the better, maybe the hate or distaste being expressed does not allow for that change.

No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. They must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Mandela

Mandela believed that forgiveness was the most powerful weapon, it frees the soul. So wihilst it’s not our place to forgive Mackay, we could cut him some slack and believe that he has paid for his comments and addressed his beliefs.
People can and do change, my hope is that he has and as such if he’s the right man for the job, we give him the benefit of the doubt.

OldEast
08-05-2022, 07:54 AM
I agree totally that racism, homophobia and sexism in all its forms is simply unacceptable.
I’ve been reading the comments about Mackay and as someone who believes in forgiveness and that people can change for the better, maybe the hate or distaste being expressed does not allow for that change.

No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. They must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Mandela

Mandela believed that forgiveness was the most powerful weapon, it frees the soul. So wihilst it’s not our place to forgive Mackay, we could cut him some slack and believe that he has paid for his comments and addressed his beliefs.
People can and do change, my hope is that he has and as such if he’s the right man for the job, we give him the benefit of the doubt.

Nice words with which I totally agree. However they will just bounce off the hardened hearts of the holier than thou types.

Brightside
08-05-2022, 07:57 AM
Nice words with which I totally agree. However they will just bounce off the hardened hearts of the holier than thou types.

He was in his 40s. Any idea that he has suddenly learned his comments were wrong is total poppycock.

hibee-boys
08-05-2022, 07:57 AM
A mistake? Did his fingers just accidentally compose that message? There was no mitigating factors that lead to him saying it. These were his quite clearly deep rooted views on black people, Asian people, women and Jewish people. There was numerous comments, not just one. This was no mistake.

I’m sure most racists don’t say racist things the majority of the time, I can’t say i find the fact his other 5997 texts weren’t racist as impressive as you seem to.

Mackay managed and even signed black players before he made his racist comments so the fact he has signed or managed some since doesn’t prove he’s not a racist.

If what you said was completely unprovoked, deep rooted racist/bigoted/sexist comments then yes, I’d say you should be. Mackays comments weren’t some daft slip of the tongue in the heat of the moment.

The guy is a racist piece of **** and his apology only came about because he got caught. **** him.

Thankfully better men/women than you or I have been able to forgive far more horrendous behaviour than, what I agree are, inexcusable language in his texts. We live in a pretty sad world where an individual, for the rest of their lives, can be branded numerous things based on past behaviour, makes you wonder why anyone would even bother trying to improve themselves or learn from past bad judgements. Think we’ll leave it at that👍

Percy Vere
08-05-2022, 07:59 AM
Nice words with which I totally agree. However they will just bounce off the hardened hearts of the holier than thou types.

Haha 😂
It’s a tough sell in here I know.
But I believe that even Hibby Hardened Hearts can change their views and give someone a chance.

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 08:05 AM
He was in his 40s. Any idea that he has suddenly learned his comments were wrong is total poppycock.

:agree:

bingo70
08-05-2022, 08:07 AM
He was in his 40s. Any idea that he has suddenly learned his comments were wrong is total poppycock.

I disagree.

It’s quite common for people of that age to come to a realisation they didn’t like the person they had become and want to make positive changes.

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 08:09 AM
Nice words with which I totally agree. However they will just bounce off the hardened hearts of the holier than thou types.

Holier than thou for not wanting a deep rooted racist, bigot, sexist welt of a man as manager of our club :faf:

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 08:11 AM
Thankfully better men/women than you or I have been able to forgive far more horrendous behaviour than, what I agree are, inexcusable language in his texts. We live in a pretty sad world where an individual, for the rest of their lives, can be branded numerous things based on past behaviour, makes you wonder why anyone would even bother trying to improve themselves or learn from past bad judgements. Think we’ll leave it at that👍

He’s been forgiven and given another chance at Ross County, it’s not like he’s been banished from society to unemployment and homelessness.

I just don’t want him anywhere near my club because he’s an absolute racist, bigoted welt. He can have his second chance elsewhere.

OldEast
08-05-2022, 08:13 AM
Haha 😂
It’s a tough sell in here I know.
But I believe that even Hibby Hardened Hearts can change their views and give someone a chance.

The joke is those threatening to never return are just pontificating. They also find it easy to say as their resolve will never be put to the test as our next manager won't be MM

Greenworld
08-05-2022, 08:24 AM
My god these comments are something else .
You support hibs not a manager.
You get behind a manager because he is involved with hibs .
Anyway I doubt any of us will second guess the next manager.
Welcome to Hibs Ronnie D

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Lago
08-05-2022, 08:34 AM
:top marks
I disagree.

It’s quite common for people of that age to come to a realisation they didn’t like the person they had become and want to make positive changes.

Forza Fred
08-05-2022, 10:46 AM
Why wouldnt you want him in the job?

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Don’t think he is what we need.

Forza Fred
08-05-2022, 10:53 AM
You’ll know much more about him than me but on paper he’s someone I quite fancied for the job.

From looking at Wikipedia, it look like his record in club football is decent?

His resume would look decent on paper.

Assistant to Guus Hiddink at a World Cup, couple of Oz championships and national team coach, and experience as a player in Europe.

He’s no Ange though, and I think we could do better.

I’m confident he would have got an interview as he has had pretty good relations with Hibs….it was him who first selected Martin Boyle for the Socceroos.

blackpoolhibs
08-05-2022, 11:00 AM
I’m perplexed by the weirdos on here threatening to not renew based on who the manager is. What are you going to do instead?

Odd balls.

If it's McInnes, i'm not buying a season ticket ever again, i'm shaving my head and i'm going to call myself Shirley.

On the otherhand, if we bring back Jack...........

Turkish Green
08-05-2022, 11:02 AM
We will get a manager, no doubt, but i am worried that it has to be someone that is known to RG. With a current track record of hire & fire I expect many experienced managers will stay away despite the rubbish being spouted by the media and bookies.

Look at Watford, its owner hasn't a clue and appointing Roy Hodgson was idiotic, you can see he cannot keep awake for the whole 90 min.

Appointing an experience manager with Scottish football knowledge is a must and as important is to back him with funds to bring in experienced players, not young boys with potential.


Did anyone read about the Scunthorpe team beaten 7-0 by Bristol Rovers yesterday. Only 3 players over 20 and 8 teenagers. Surely the FA will charge them with bringing game into disrepute. That is how things can go hopelessly wrong with a club.

SaulGoodman
08-05-2022, 11:03 AM
If it's McInnes, i'm not buying a season ticket ever again, i'm shaving my head and i'm going to call myself Shirley.

On the otherhand, if we bring back Jack...........

Never mind about Jack, what’s pat fenlon up to these days?

huggie1875
08-05-2022, 11:05 AM
I bet those judging Malky have similar or darker skeletons in their closet everyone does the ones that ramble on about them are usually the worst we’ve all laughed at something that someone else is totally offended by at some point in your adult life get over yourselves

Callum_62
08-05-2022, 11:13 AM
I bet those judging Malky have similar or darker skeletons in their closet everyone does the ones that ramble on about them are usually the worst we’ve all laughed at something that someone else is totally offended by at some point in your adult life get over yourselvesI bet they havnt

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Golden Bear
08-05-2022, 11:14 AM
I bet those judging Malky have similar or darker skeletons in their closet everyone does the ones that ramble on about them are usually the worst we’ve all laughed at something that someone else is totally offended by at some point in your adult life get over yourselves

:agree:

If Malky did happen to get the job and was proving to be successful, then you can bet that attendances would increase dramatically and the ever so perfect "never be back" squad will not be missed.

Paulie Walnuts
08-05-2022, 11:16 AM
I bet those judging Malky have similar or darker skeletons in their closet everyone does the ones that ramble on about them are usually the worst we’ve all laughed at something that someone else is totally offended by at some point in your adult life get over yourselves

:faf:

Aye, that’s what it is. You might have your own bigoted, racist skeletons but that doesn’t mean everybody else does.

Also, why do people keep referring back to people having laughed at a joke? Malky Mackay wasn’t the person laughing, he was the person actually saying it. And none of it was a joke.

It’s a terrible comparison to someone who is spouting deep rooted racist, bigoted, sexist bile whilst fulfilling the same role our club would be employing him in.

NC1875
08-05-2022, 11:32 AM
Was told yesterday that McKay has told his agent he isn’t interested in even speaking to Hibs.

Aberdeen apparently wanted to speak to him before appointing Goodwin and he also said no to them.

So everyone can calm down.

Key West
08-05-2022, 11:44 AM
David Gray

Worked under Stubbs,Lennon,Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney.

Deserves the opportunity to be his own man, knows the club inside out, no major upheaval, give him a chance not as big a gamble as you would think.

OldEast
08-05-2022, 11:44 AM
Was told yesterday that McKay has told his agent he isn’t interested in even speaking to Hibs.

Aberdeen apparently wanted to speak to him before appointing Goodwin and he also said no to them.

So everyone can calm down.

But, but, who can we get outraged at now?

Aldo
08-05-2022, 11:55 AM
If it's McInnes, i'm not buying a season ticket ever again, i'm shaving my head and i'm going to call myself Shirley.

On the otherhand, if we bring back Jack...........

Cheers Shirz. O and btw photographic evidence is required!


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andrew70
08-05-2022, 11:57 AM
David Gray

Worked under Stubbs,Lennon,Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney.

Deserves the opportunity to be his own man, knows the club inside out, no major upheaval, give him a chance not as big a gamble as you would think.

You are at it. In his caretaker spells he’s shown that he can’t change a thing. We need major upheaval.

The league cup final was one thing but yesterday was a whole new level of showing he is completely out of his depth for now.

Billy Whizz
08-05-2022, 11:59 AM
You are at it. In his caretaker spells he’s shown that he can’t change a thing. We need major upheaval.

The league cup final was one thing but yesterday was a whole new level of showing he is completely out of his depth for now.

Disagree with that Andrew, didn’t have many options yesterday
Who would you have played

andrew70
08-05-2022, 12:05 PM
Disagree with that Andrew, didn’t have many options yesterday
Who would you have played

So you play the same formation as Maloney was vilified for? Incorrectly imo but that’s been and done.

The personnel can easily be played in a different manner.

Can’t have one rule for Maloney and other for Gray.

Gray has failed to galvanise a squad with very little impact. It’s turgid. The effort should have been ramped up, also why revert to one up top?

Clueless unfortunately.

JamesHFC
08-05-2022, 12:07 PM
David Gray

Worked under Stubbs,Lennon,Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney.

Deserves the opportunity to be his own man, knows the club inside out, no major upheaval, give him a chance not as big a gamble as you would think.

We need a manager who actually wants the job. DG has no interest in taking the job on a permanent. He also has zero experience as manager and would be a huge gamble which would end up in him probably being sacked.

SeanWilson
08-05-2022, 12:08 PM
Disagree with that Andrew, didn’t have many options yesterday
Who would you have played

We were as poor yesterday as we’ve been all season (and I’d hasten to say in many years). It would also be absolutely bonkers for David gray to even think about managing hibs at this stage. He could quite easily ruin his career before it’s started in management at this club.

Key West
08-05-2022, 12:15 PM
You are at it. In his caretaker spells he’s shown that he can’t change a thing. We need major upheaval.

The league cup final was one thing but yesterday was a whole new level of showing he is completely out of his depth for now.

There's no quick fix, a bit of stability is required. I'd rather see some money spent on players.

Libby Hibby
08-05-2022, 12:17 PM
David Gray

Worked under Stubbs,Lennon,Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney.

Deserves the opportunity to be his own man, knows the club inside out, no major upheaval, give him a chance not as big a gamble as you would think.

‘The best candidate was right under our nose all along’

Now where have we heard that before and how well did that turn out?

LewysGot2
08-05-2022, 12:19 PM
Well, finally, you would think any hankering over John Hughes will have ended now

Fitba folk ken…

andrew70
08-05-2022, 12:20 PM
There's no quick fix, a bit of stability is required. I'd rather see some money spent on players.

I don’t want a quick fix but from the League Cup final to now he’s not imprinted himself on the job.

He’s a coach at best, I’d go as far to say the club are using his high standing with the support to deflect from the job that needs done.

He’s being used as cannon fodder but even those up against it have it within them to change it up and get a reaction.

Poor from all involved.

CentreLine
08-05-2022, 12:22 PM
He was in his 40s. Any idea that he has suddenly learned his comments were wrong is total poppycock.

Really?
What age do you have to be to learn from your mistakes?

Key West
08-05-2022, 12:25 PM
I don’t want a quick fix but from the League Cup final to now he’s not imprinted himself on the job.

He’s a coach at best, I’d go as far to say the club are using his high standing with the support to deflect from the job that needs done.

He’s being used as cannon fodder but even those up against it have it within them to change it up and get a reaction.

Poor from all involved.

If he doesn't want the job fair enough but given the time he has been at the club does he not deserve to be considered or do Hibs have some masterplan to bring in a high profile manager, giving him a substantial amount of money to spend on players and therefore making us a stick on to be the best of the rest.

andrew70
08-05-2022, 12:33 PM
If he doesn't want the job fair enough but given the time he has been at the club does he not deserve to be considered or do Hibs have some masterplan to bring in a high profile manager, giving him a substantial amount of money to spend on players and therefore making us a stick on to be the best of the rest.

No he doesn’t. His performance over his caretaker spells has been abysmal. In terms of improving and progressing the team. He needs to go cut his teeth elsewhere but thankfully I think the board will do the right thing this time around.

Billy Whizz
08-05-2022, 12:38 PM
So you play the same formation as Maloney was vilified for? Incorrectly imo but that’s been and done.

The personnel can easily be played in a different manner.

Can’t have one rule for Maloney and other for Gray.

Gray has failed to galvanise a squad with very little impact. It’s turgid. The effort should have been ramped up, also why revert to one up top?

Clueless unfortunately.

We played 2 up front last week at Livingston, got a point yesterday
Maloney and now Gray can only pick who’s available. If Jasper plays, you take out Henderson

andrew70
08-05-2022, 12:41 PM
We played 2 up front last week at Livingston, got a point yesterday
Maloney and now Gray can only pick who’s available. If Jasper plays, you take out Henderson

No you play two of our best players and adjust the formation.

A point? Is that credible?

JamesHFC
08-05-2022, 12:51 PM
No he doesn’t. His performance over his caretaker spells has been abysmal. In terms of improving and progressing the team. He needs to go cut his teeth elsewhere but thankfully I think the board will do the right thing this time around.

Since he became a coach we have had two managers sacked in the same season. If it wasn’t for sentimental reasons there would be calls for him to be booted also. We can’t just hide from what’s going on, perhaps an ambassador role and starting with coaching the younger lads would be more suitable.

Mr. Wonderful
08-05-2022, 12:55 PM
Since he became a coach we have had two managers sacked in the same season. If it wasn’t for sentimental reasons there would be calls for him to be booted also. We can’t just hide from what’s going on, perhaps an ambassador role and starting with coaching the younger lads would be more suitable.

Maybe the problem isn't the coaches, perhaps it's the squad team of mid to bottom table players.

Key West
08-05-2022, 12:55 PM
No he doesn’t. His performance over his caretaker spells has been abysmal. In terms of improving and progressing the team. He needs to go cut his teeth elsewhere but thankfully I think the board will do the right thing this time around.

Harsh assessment his job was to make sure we didn't get involved in a play off, job done, abysmal in comparison with
Maloney or Jack Ross when covid, a fixture congestion and the loss of key players played a part?
He didn't have a lot to pick from the St Mirren game up to now.

Mcbizz1998
08-05-2022, 01:05 PM
Bet Victor have now just completely removed the Hibs manager market from their website. Previously they had McInnes as 1/6 fav.

Libby Hibby
08-05-2022, 01:07 PM
Bet Victor have now just completely removed the Hibs manager market from their website. Previously they had McInnes as 1/6 fav.

Fingers crossed McInnes gets the gig.

For some reason, it just feels right.

MWHIBBIES
08-05-2022, 01:07 PM
We played 2 up front last week at Livingston, got a point yesterday
Maloney and now Gray can only pick who’s available. If Jasper plays, you take out Henderson

Could quite easily play Henderson, Hauge and Jasper behind melkersen. Far better option than josh Campbell and 5 defenders.

Billy Whizz
08-05-2022, 01:25 PM
No you play two of our best players and adjust the formation.

A point? Is that credible?

Gray has got 4 points from 9, which is now a terrible record

Andrew just out of curiosity who would you play

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 01:29 PM
Bet Victor have now just completely removed the Hibs manager market from their website. Previously they had McInnes as 1/6 fav.

Yip been looking for Hibs odds and couldn't find any.

Heisenberg
08-05-2022, 01:32 PM
No you play two of our best players and adjust the formation.

A point? Is that credible?

He did adjust it at HT yesterday to be fair to him. Changed to a back four. Unsure why Campbell stayed on the park in the position he did though.

Key West
08-05-2022, 01:35 PM
Regardless of who gets the job Hibs went with a streamlined squad,lost their best player and have played without a recognised centre forward for quite a while.
Is McInnes the answer I hope so but I have my doubts,he should have a decent starting point with a full squad plus additions being available.

andrew70
08-05-2022, 01:38 PM
Gray has got 4 points from 9, which is now a terrible record

Andrew just out of curiosity who would you play

Dabrowski
Clarke Porto Doig Stevenson
Hauge JDH Henderson Jasper
Scott Melkersen

Gray has 4 points out of 9 in the bottom six Maloney would have got that at least.

As I say Gray has been thrown in because of his standing with the support. He’s not willingly tried to improve the team. Much the same sums it up.

Disappointing.

greenginger
08-05-2022, 01:48 PM
Did Maloney get any points against these teams ?

Hibby Kay-Yay
08-05-2022, 01:56 PM
Gray is not the answer here. Bottom line.

The_Exile
08-05-2022, 02:05 PM
Gray is not the answer here. Bottom line.

This is it in a nutshell, the days of us being a proving ground or a finishing school for managers has to end. We need someone with a clear vision of how they want to play, this "hibs way" stuff can get in the sea as far as I'm concerned as I just want the team to be picking up 3 points as often as possible in any way we can, we can worry about playing like Brazil later. Most importantly, the new manager must be backed, we've no infrastructure needing funds now so we should be spending whatever money we do have on players and contracts.

If we end up with another "meh" appointment and play like this again next season then I fear we will really lose a big chunk of regular or even semi regular attendees, especially with the cost of living the way it is. It'll be easy for folk to cut the football first if the football is as **** as it's been recently.

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 02:15 PM
Did Maloney get any points against these teams ?

1st game in charge against Aberdeen he got a 1-0 win. No idea about other results.

Smartie
08-05-2022, 02:17 PM
It’s hard to fully assess Gray’s performance without knowing what his remit is.

Is it to pick the best team and get as many points on the board as possible? Or is it to blood youngsters and prepare for next season? Play wonderful attacking football and get the fans falling back in love with the game again? Or hold the fort and not make too much noise until someone else comes in?

Yesterday was the first time I’ve been unimpressed by him - didn’t like the starting line up, didn’t love the subs although I can understand why he went with what he did.

Not sure what anyone has seen from him so far to rule him out. Leading this shower of crap is a thankless task. Arguably he can only really worsen his reputation by working with what he has available.

Mainstandman
08-05-2022, 02:18 PM
1st game in charge against Aberdeen he got a 1-0 win. No idea about other results.

Lost to Livingston 2-3 at home drew 0-0 at Dundee

Billy Whizz
08-05-2022, 02:19 PM
1st game in charge against Aberdeen he got a 1-0 win. No idea about other results.

We had a much stronger team then, starters that weren’t involved yesterday
Boyle
Cadden
Allan
Nisbet

Subs who came on
Gogic
Murphy
Doidge

Franck Stanton
08-05-2022, 02:20 PM
Hell mend anyone who makes a mistake eh? 3 texts out of 6,000 checked were very evidently racist, no denying that, but it hardly evidences a systematic pattern of racist behaviour, for goodness sake the guy has managed black players for years, very successfully by the look it, I’m surprised they’ve all not downed tools or refused to work for someone like him.

I’ve been going to the football for 30 plus years, like I’m sure many on here, I look back in horror at some of the filth that came out of my mouth in days gone by, suppose we should be branded racist’s and homophonic for the remainder of our days according to your standards? The guy came out and sincerely apologised, he was put under investigation, he’s obviously missed out on other jobs in football, from what I can see he’s done his best to right his wrongs.

Well said.

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 02:21 PM
We had a much stronger team then, starters that weren’t involved yesterday
Boyle
Cadden
Allan
Nisbet

Subs who came on
Gogic
Murphy
Doidge
Was just answering the question. Have no idea what team we had out or Aberdeen had out?

Allant1981
08-05-2022, 02:25 PM
Dabrowski
Clarke Porto Doig Stevenson
Hauge JDH Henderson Jasper
Scott Melkersen

Gray has 4 points out of 9 in the bottom six Maloney would have got that at least.

As I say Gray has been thrown in because of his standing with the support. He’s not willingly tried to improve the team. Much the same sums it up.

Disappointing.

Just as well you arent picking the team if thats what you would pick

Since90+2
08-05-2022, 02:27 PM
Dabrowski
Clarke Porto Doig Stevenson
Hauge JDH Henderson Jasper
Scott Melkersen

Gray has 4 points out of 9 in the bottom six Maloney would have got that at least.

As I say Gray has been thrown in because of his standing with the support. He’s not willingly tried to improve the team. Much the same sums it up.

Disappointing.

That midfield would get destroyed. JDH and Henderson in the middle of the park would get completely overrun.

Franck Stanton
08-05-2022, 02:44 PM
That midfield would get destroyed. JDH and Henderson in the middle of the park would get completely overrun.

You mean like we have been all season?

Ardenttwo
08-05-2022, 02:47 PM
Fingers crossed McInnes gets the gig.

For some reason, it just feels right.

I actually wanted McInnes before SM. Just something about him that makes me think he will get us going again

Hibbyradge
08-05-2022, 02:48 PM
It seems that all it takes to fully rehabilitate a racist, homophobic sexist is for them to get caught being a racist, homophobic sexist.

Who knew that the road to Damascus was merely a public shaming away?

Steven79
08-05-2022, 03:04 PM
You mean like we have been all season?

Was just about to say the very same thing!

Mcbizz1998
08-05-2022, 03:11 PM
It seems that all it takes to fully rehabilitate a racist, homophobic sexist is for them to get caught being a racist, homophobic sexist.

Who knew that the road to Damascus was merely a public shaming away?

Maybe some of the ones who don’t get caught change their ways and rehabilitate. How would you know if they don’t get caught?

Hibbyradge
08-05-2022, 03:24 PM
Maybe some of the ones who don’t get caught change their ways and rehabilitate. How would you know if they don’t get caught?

I'm sure some people do change.

Just not as quickly it seems.

JohnM1875
08-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Interviews taking place this week right? Hopefully we find out some of the names involved and announce it as soon as the season ends next Sunday, or earlier preferably.

Gordy M
08-05-2022, 03:30 PM
Im sure it was reported that we were interviewing potential managers last week and this. Have we any ideas of who has actually been interviewed?

He's here!
08-05-2022, 03:36 PM
Im sure it was reported that we were interviewing potential managers last week and this. Have we any ideas of who has actually been interviewed?

Appleton's the only one I've seen reported as having been interviewed.

CentreLine
08-05-2022, 03:43 PM
I'm sure some people do change.

Just not as quickly it seems.

It’s a bit narrow minded, not to mention tragically defeatist, to be convinced people cannot be educated or change their attitudes.

I absolutely include myself amongst these people but many people enjoyed and looked forward every week to programs in the 1970’s and 80’s

Monty Python, with sketches such as the Bruce sketch
‘Til death do us part
Benny Hill
Love thy neighbour
And many more. Many of us thought they were hilarious.

Then in the late 20th and at the beginning of the 21st century, there was a fully justified and effective push for larger work places to run “diversity” courses. Suddenly many of us had to take a long hard look at our attitudes and behaviours. Personally, and I was in my early 40’s, it had a profound effect and I believe I became a better person for realising that what had been acceptable and “normal” behaviour was not acceptable and actually never had been. I do not claim to be a paragon of virtue but I do try to avoid certain behaviours and to challenge them when I witness them.
The notion that Malcolm Mackay, or any individual, cannot have changed his views is just nonsense.

Lago
08-05-2022, 03:45 PM
David Gray

Worked under Stubbs,Lennon,Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney.

Deserves the opportunity to be his own man, knows the club inside out, no major upheaval, give him a chance not as big a gamble as you would think.
No thanks

Hibbyradge
08-05-2022, 04:09 PM
It’s a bit narrow minded, not to mention tragically defeatist, to be convinced people cannot be educated or change their attitudes.

I absolutely include myself amongst these people but many people enjoyed and looked forward every week to programs in the 1970’s and 80’s

Monty Python, with sketches such as the Bruce sketch
‘Til death do us part
Benny Hill
Love thy neighbour
And many more. Many of us thought they were hilarious.

Then in the late 20th and at the beginning of the 21st century, there was a fully justified and effective push for larger work places to run “diversity” courses. Suddenly many of us had to take a long hard look at our attitudes and behaviours. Personally, and I was in my early 40’s, it had a profound effect and I believe I became a better person for realising that what had been acceptable and “normal” behaviour was not acceptable and actually never had been. I do not claim to be a paragon of virtue but I do try to avoid certain behaviours and to challenge them when I witness them.
The notion that Malcolm Mackay, or any individual, cannot have changed his views is just nonsense.

I'm neither narrow minded nor defeatist.

The notion that Malcy Mackay changed his attitudes overnight because he was caught having those attitudes is just nonsense.

He has apologised for sending the texts. I've no idea what his attitudes to blacks, gays or women is now, but some seen to think he's a reformed character.

Unseen work
08-05-2022, 04:11 PM
Wonder if Joey Barton is someone the board would consider

blackpoolhibs
08-05-2022, 04:13 PM
I'm neither narrow minded or defeatist.

The notion that Malcy Mackay changed his attitudes overnight because he was caught having those attitudes is just nonsense.

He has apologised for sending the texts. I've no idea what his attitudes to blacks, gays or women is now, but some seen to think he's a reformed character.

Maybe it needed him being caught for him to reavaluate his attitude? :duck:

NC1875
08-05-2022, 04:14 PM
Wonder if Joey Barton is someone the board would consider

People are going mental about Malky Mackay. This could be fun 🤣

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 04:17 PM
Wonder if Joey Barton is someone the board would consider

Why are you wondering this?

bingo70
08-05-2022, 04:19 PM
I'm neither narrow minded nor defeatist.

The notion that Malcy Mackay changed his attitudes overnight because he was caught having those attitudes is just nonsense.

He has apologised for sending the texts. I've no idea what his attitudes to blacks, gays or women is now, but some seen to think he's a reformed character.

I doubt they changed over night but I don’t think it’s a stretch to think he though “what the **** is wrong with me, why did I say those things” and then work to become a better person on the back of it.

I know others disagree and that’s fine but for me, the fact show racism the red card organisation are satisfied with his efforts since he said what he did that’s good enough for me. They’re the experts in that field, I’m certainly not. I appreciate there are other issues and it wasn’t just racism but it’s the same principles IMO.

FWIW I wouldn’t want him as manager just now as we need somebody to unite the clans, not create more divides between the club and its fans.

Unseen work
08-05-2022, 04:25 PM
Why are you wondering this?

To be honest he was someone I had completely forgotten about until seeing his name mentioned yesterday for his teams win

Managed a couple of teams now and is a big name so was just wondering if he’s someone they’d be interested.

Not saying we should go for him.

Just_Jimmy
08-05-2022, 04:34 PM
Was told yesterday that McKay has told his agent he isn’t interested in even speaking to Hibs.

Aberdeen apparently wanted to speak to him before appointing Goodwin and he also said no to them.

So everyone can calm down.I've told my agent that I'm not interested in Speaking to hibs too...

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blackpoolhibs
08-05-2022, 04:35 PM
I've told my agent that I'm not interested in Speaking to hibs too...

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Has she let Hibs know? :wink:

NC1875
08-05-2022, 05:01 PM
I've told my agent that I'm not interested in Speaking to hibs too...

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Pointless post, but good for you 👍🏼

Lago
08-05-2022, 06:19 PM
Looks as if Ron will have to have a Jeremy Kyle type sequence as part of his managerial interviews to ensure those who claim to have recanted are truthful, polygraph maybe 🤔

Hibiza
08-05-2022, 06:44 PM
Looks as if Ron will have to have a Jeremy Kyle type sequence as part of his managerial interviews to ensure those who claim to have recanted are truthful, polygraph maybe 🤔

Lago , you may have just struck Gold : Jeremy Kyle for manager.

Lago
08-05-2022, 06:53 PM
Lago , you may have just struck Gold : Jeremy Kyle for manager.
Now your talking 🤣💥

SHODAN
08-05-2022, 07:16 PM
Find it quite extraordinary that people are being ridiculed for suggesting that their preferred candidate meets very modest standards of personal conduct.

Bet you no one would be defending Mackay if he'd used the word fe**an in those texts too.

Since452
08-05-2022, 07:21 PM
Lago , you may have just struck Gold : Jeremy Kyle for manager.

He'd be pish without Graham though. That man's a genius.

Just_Jimmy
08-05-2022, 07:25 PM
Pointless post, but good for you [emoji1360]Anyone can say they're not interested, doesn't mean they were ever in the running.

Hibs will be well aware of the lack of support for the racist. I doubt he was ever a contender no matter what's suggested outside of the boardroom by those 'in the know'.

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bingo70
08-05-2022, 07:28 PM
Find it quite extraordinary that people are being ridiculed for suggesting that their preferred candidate meets very modest standards of personal conduct.

Bet you no one would be defending Mackay if he'd used the word fe**an in those texts too.

Out of curiosity are you open minded enough to see both sides of the argument?

LewysGot2
08-05-2022, 07:37 PM
Surprisingly we’ve not heard from Kevin Thomson as to whether he is being considered :wink::greengrin

Hibbyradge
08-05-2022, 07:50 PM
Find it quite extraordinary that people are being ridiculed for suggesting that their preferred candidate meets very modest standards of personal conduct.

Bet you no one would be defending Mackay if he'd used the word fe**an in those texts too.

Very true.

WhileTheChief..
08-05-2022, 08:12 PM
McInnes or Mackay?

Cracking.

Gordy M
08-05-2022, 08:15 PM
McInnes or Mackay?

Cracking.

Dont think it will be either, if Hibs had approached RC or Killie im sure we would have heard about that.

HH81
08-05-2022, 08:16 PM
Shame Gareth Ainsworth isn't available.

Cracking job at Wycombe.

bingo70
08-05-2022, 08:23 PM
Shame Gareth Ainsworth isn't available.

Cracking job at Wycombe.

I think a few people had suggested the MK Dons manager as being a good option, I wonder if he will become available now?

HH81
08-05-2022, 08:32 PM
I think a few people had suggested the MK Dons manager as being a good option, I wonder if he will become available now?

Hasn't he only managed there a season? If so surely he won't leave yet. 53% win rate at MK though which is decent.

Mcbizz1998
08-05-2022, 09:25 PM
McInnes or Mackay?

Cracking.

I’m not sure there is any indication that it will be Mackay.

Only reason he is even being mentioned on this thread is so our moral superiors can tell us what they will do should he be appointed.

WellingtonHibby
08-05-2022, 09:27 PM
Out of curiosity are you open minded enough to see both sides of the argument?

What is the other side? For arguments sake

angus hibby
08-05-2022, 09:28 PM
I think a few people had suggested the MK Dons manager as being a good option, I wonder if he will become available now?

Chris Hogg is the assistant at MK too.

GreenCastle
08-05-2022, 09:33 PM
Chris Hogg is the assistant at MK too.

Wouldn’t want Hogg as coach - really doesn’t have much experience.

bingo70
08-05-2022, 09:35 PM
What is the other side? For arguments sake

The fact that Show Racism the Red card organisation have come out and said he’s done all he can to show he’s changed and needs to be allowed to earn a living in the game. They even wished him well. I know what he said wasn’t just racist but the same principles apply to all for me.

I’m really no expert on the whole issue and I’m sorry to those bored of me mentioning them, I can see both sides of the argument but I just think those guys really are the experts so I put a lot of weight behind what they say.

(I would rather we never appointed Malky Mackay, I think the last thing we need is someone that will divide our support even more)

LancsHibs
08-05-2022, 09:37 PM
I think a few people had suggested the MK Dons manager as being a good option, I wonder if he will become available now?

A rookie manager who’s had one decent season in English lower league and absolutely no experience of Scottish football. Very risky appointment. No thanks

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 09:40 PM
Karl Robinson would be another decent candidate, got a good few games under his belt at MK Dons, Charlton and now with Oxford, Still fairly young.

Not been linked with him just thought I'd throw that one in 😁

SteveHFC
08-05-2022, 09:42 PM
Ron Gordon is set to step up his search for the new Hibs boss this week with crunch talks planned with the board at Easter Road.

The American owner was in Edinburgh for Saturday’s low key draw with Aberdeen but is ready to ramp up the recruitment process in the next few days.

Derek McInnes has shot to the top of the list of bookies favourites to land the gig on the back of his promotion success with Kilmarnock.

Record Sport understands the former Aberdeen boss will be discussed by Easter Road chiefs – but there has not yet been any formal approach to Rugby Park.

There are also no guarantees McInnes will jump ship after steering Killie back to the top flight and forging a solid working relationship with Ayrshire supremo Billy Bowie.

Ross County’s Malky Mackay is also believed to be under consideration but the Staggies boss is currently focused on the Highlanders making a late push to qualify for Europe.

Gordon has been in talks with contacts in England in recent weeks having been sounded out Man United legend Roy Keane as well as experienced EFL bosses Darren Ferguson and Michael Appleton.

The American is also looking at the foreign market but won’t rule out making an appointment from closer to home as he bids to get Hibs back on track after a woeful campaign that’s cost two managers their jobs.

From the daily record.

04Sauzee
08-05-2022, 09:45 PM
Ron Gordon is set to step up his search for the new Hibs boss this week with crunch talks planned with the board at Easter Road.

The American owner was in Edinburgh for Saturday’s low key draw with Aberdeen but is ready to ramp up the recruitment process in the next few days.

Derek McInnes has shot to the top of the list of bookies favourites to land the gig on the back of his promotion success with Kilmarnock.

Record Sport understands the former Aberdeen boss will be discussed by Easter Road chiefs – but there has not yet been any formal approach to Rugby Park.

There are also no guarantees McInnes will jump ship after steering Killie back to the top flight and forging a solid working relationship with Ayrshire supremo Billy Bowie.

Ross County’s Malky Mackay is also believed to be under consideration but the Staggies boss is currently focused on the Highlanders making a late push to qualify for Europe.

Gordon has been in talks with contacts in England in recent weeks having been sounded out Man United legend Roy Keane as well as experienced EFL bosses Darren Ferguson and Michael Appleton.

The American is also looking at the foreign market but won’t rule out making an appointment from closer to home as he bids to get Hibs back on track after a woeful campaign that’s cost two managers their jobs.

From the daily record.

The record aren't really telling us anything other than what's already been said 🤔

Really hope they have someone announced before Sunday with him sitting in the stands. Lots of work to be done .

bingo70
08-05-2022, 09:54 PM
A rookie manager who’s had one decent season in English lower league and absolutely no experience of Scottish football. Very risky appointment. No thanks

Was also a manager in Belgium and did a good job there so I wouldn’t say he’s a rookie manager.

If you’re looking for an experienced manager with a knowledge of Scottish football I wouldn’t have thought there would be too many candidates? Mcinnes, Warburton, anybody else?

bingo70
08-05-2022, 09:55 PM
The record aren't really telling us anything other than what's already been said 🤔

Really hope they have someone announced before Sunday with him sitting in the stands. Lots of work to be done .

Last paragraph just shows they really don’t know anything.

Just another nothing article.

Willis1875
08-05-2022, 09:55 PM
Was also a manager in Belgium and did a good job there so I wouldn’t say he’s a rookie manager.

If you’re looking for an experienced manager with a knowledge of Scottish football I wouldn’t have thought there would be too many candidates? Mcinnes, Warburton, anybody else?

Ian McCall

justlikebrazil
08-05-2022, 10:04 PM
I wasn't a McInnes fan but the state we are in at the moment I really think we need stability. I think he would give us that then hopefully build on it because at the moment we are in relegation form albeit we are safe for this season. We can't go for someone that doesn't know Scottish football and this league!! Just my thoughts 😎

greenflyer
08-05-2022, 10:28 PM
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CL0762
08-05-2022, 10:38 PM
The record aren't really telling us anything other than what's already been said 🤔

Really hope they have someone announced before Sunday with him sitting in the stands. Lots of work to be done .

Don’t have a name or anything but I’ve heard they’ve got their preferred candidate & it’ll be confirmed after the POTY next week.

Supposedly a manager from down south.

Unseen work
08-05-2022, 11:17 PM
Is that article trying to suggest we don’t want Appleton?

Odd way they’ve wrote it when they’ve mentioned him, Keane and Ferguson

Callum_62
09-05-2022, 03:17 AM
Don’t have a name or anything but I’ve heard they’ve got their preferred candidate & it’ll be confirmed after the POTY next week.

Supposedly a manager from down south.Is Kilmarnock classed as down south?

[emoji44]

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FilipinoHibs
09-05-2022, 04:54 AM
Don’t have a name or anything but I’ve heard they’ve got their preferred candidate & it’ll be confirmed after the POTY next week.

Supposedly a manager from down south.

What's your source? Not a specific name, just a general description.

GreenCastle
09-05-2022, 06:38 AM
Paul Clement has only been at Everton as an assistant a short space of time with Lampard so can’t see him leaving that currently.

Appleton seems to be interested but Salford interested also.

The Hibs player of year event starts at 6pm next week so would be a late announcement after that?

Seems we haven’t spoken with Killie or Ross County yet if we wanted DM or MM.

JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 06:40 AM
Paul Clement has only been at Everton as an assistant a short space of time with Lampard so can’t see him leaving that currently.

Appleton seems to be interested but Salford interested also.

The Hibs player of year event starts at 6pm next week so would be a late announcement after that?

Seems we haven’t spoken with Killie or Ross County yet if we wanted DM or MM.

Clements managerial jaunts have been very poor I think. Agree no way he is leaving Everton for us imo

Caversham Green
09-05-2022, 07:38 AM
Clements managerial jaunts have been very poor I think. Agree no way he is leaving Everton for us imo

Agreed. Absolutely terrible at Reading, although not as bad as Stam.

Paulie Walnuts
09-05-2022, 07:41 AM
Clements managerial jaunts have been very poor I think. Agree no way he is leaving Everton for us imo

They have been.

I’m sure he was linked with us a while ago now and on paper he looked like he’d be out of this world. He doesn’t seem to be up to it as a manager though.

04Sauzee
09-05-2022, 07:52 AM
They have been.

I’m sure he was linked with us a while ago now and on paper he looked like he’d be out of this world. He doesn’t seem to be up to it as a manager though.

Obviously highly rated as a coach, maybe he's been let down by bad recruitment.

All said I'm not expecting him to rock up as the next Hibs manager.

CL0762
09-05-2022, 08:00 AM
What's your source? Not a specific name, just a general description.

This isn’t a source, just something I’ve heard from someone who knows someone etc but they’ve been spot on with stuff before.

With regards to the POTY starting at 6, it would likely be the Monday morning/afternoon.

this could all be a lot of nonsense but just passing on what I’ve heard.

FilipinoHibs
09-05-2022, 08:07 AM
This isn’t a source, just something I’ve heard from someone who knows someone etc but they’ve been spot on with stuff before.

With regards to the POTY starting at 6, it would likely be the Monday morning/afternoon.

this could all be a lot of nonsense but just passing on what I’ve heard.

Thanks. We wait for the new dawn.

CL0762
09-05-2022, 08:09 AM
Thanks. We wait for the new dawn.

Yeah, exactly.

I was holding off on my ST renewal for the 6 month option to see who we bring in but I think I’ll just have to bite the bullet and renew because I think the announcement will come after the deadline expires.

leith lynx
09-05-2022, 09:17 AM
Ian McCall

Dugmeat!

hibsbollah
09-05-2022, 10:01 AM
Thanks. We wait for the new dawn.

:agree: get on the Bellamy bandwagon, the view's great from up here.

WhileTheChief..
09-05-2022, 10:01 AM
The record aren't really telling us anything other than what's already been said 🤔.

Because we're knee-deep in it on here every day.

If you support Cowdenbeath or whoever it's a pretty fair summary of things.

G15 Hibs
09-05-2022, 10:23 AM
Because we're knee-deep in it on here every day.

If you support Cowdenbeath or whoever it's a pretty fair summary of things.

Dare say Cowdenbeath fans will be a bit preoccupied this week to bother thinking about the next Hibs manager, the poor souls.

Carheenlea
09-05-2022, 11:39 AM
Don’t have a name or anything but I’ve heard they’ve got their preferred candidate & it’ll be confirmed after the POTY next week.

Supposedly a manager from down south.

Kilmarnock’s down South from Edinburgh..

I'm Spartacus
09-05-2022, 12:12 PM
Think it's going to be Appleton.

Do you think Ron wants us to be All Saints rather than All Stars? :)

Stuart93
09-05-2022, 01:01 PM
Do you think Ron wants us to be All Saints rather than All Stars? :)

Never ever

Springbank
09-05-2022, 01:17 PM
Do you think Ron wants us to be All Saints rather than All Stars? :)

Suspect Aberdeen will nip in and pip us to the post again

"Take Me To My Beach [End]"

OldEast
09-05-2022, 01:32 PM
But, but, who can we get outraged at now?

Ah it's Bill Copeland

Stuart93
09-05-2022, 01:51 PM
Ah it's Bill Copeland

It’s about time these dinosaurs were called out

hfcok
09-05-2022, 02:14 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

Waxy
09-05-2022, 02:39 PM
Do you think Ron wants us to be All Saints rather than All Stars? :)

You know where its at

Steven79
09-05-2022, 02:40 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

If they win the play offs he will be having the last laugh on us.

Just imagine his wages if they get promoted in a few weeks...

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 03:16 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.


If they win the play offs he will be having the last laugh on us.

Just imagine his wages if they get promoted in a few weeks...

Martin Boyle being injured and his new signings taking a while to get going really done him in. You wonder what might have happened if he'd stayed on.

K-Zazu
09-05-2022, 03:20 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

Nope

Since452
09-05-2022, 03:21 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

I don't think so. Some managers just click at certain clubs. Didn't work out for him here. I do remember us absolutely battering Aberdeen away but somehow failing to win. Was just his luck. Hold absolutely no grudges against him.

davhibby
09-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

No. He didn’t understand Scottish football at all and underestimated us as a club

I'm Spartacus
09-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

Mental how many managers can be a shambles at one club but have very decent gigs elsewhere.

Paul Hecky
Jack Ross
Paul Lambert
Laptop boy Cathro

Who else?

Hibiza
09-05-2022, 03:42 PM
McInnes or Mackay?

Cracking.

Reminds me of having to pick one from two of the last litter.

PPZPOL
09-05-2022, 04:03 PM
Nope

That centre midfielder boy (whose name I’ve already forgot) that he signed that never touched the ball in that semi against Celtic (or even got close to it) and was so far out his depth would be enough for me to say no also.

Also the game in the Scottish against Celtic at ER still gives me nightmares, played like a pre season friendly.

JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 04:05 PM
That centre midfielder boy (whose name I’ve already forgot) that he signed that never touched the ball in that semi against Celtic (or even got close to it) and was so far out his depth would be enough for me to say no also.

Also the game in the Scottish against Celtic at ER still gives me nightmares, played like a pre season friendly.

Josh Vela

Steven79
09-05-2022, 04:19 PM
That centre midfielder boy (whose name I’ve already forgot) that he signed that never touched the ball in that semi against Celtic (or even got close to it) and was so far out his depth would be enough for me to say no also.

Also the game in the Scottish against Celtic at ER still gives me nightmares, played like a pre season friendly.

Uterly spinless that day.

We approached the game as if we didn't have a chance against them despite our recent record at Easter Road against Celtic.

JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 04:33 PM
Martin Boyle being injured and his new signings taking a while to get going really done him in. You wonder what might have happened if he'd stayed on.

Yep, he came in and did well up until the end of the season. Only had one transfer window and unfortunately the players who came in either needed time to settle in or didn’t settle in at all. I’m sure Bartley has said that Hecky was one of the best managers he’s played under. He probably deserved more time but we don’t do that here.

PPZPOL
09-05-2022, 05:12 PM
Josh Vela

That’s him. I’m normally good with names of former players as well. It was a combination of rage and feeling sorry for him that day. Looked lost.

Brightside
09-05-2022, 05:16 PM
That’s him. I’m normally good with names of former players as well. It was a combination of rage and feeling sorry for him that day. Looked lost.

A long term signing target for the club. Way before Hecky took over. He was rubbish tho - thats for sure. Someone up there said Ross was a shambles. Its fine to say you didnt like some of his football but hes the least shambolic manager we've had in at least 10 years.

HairyMM
09-05-2022, 05:17 PM
Mental how many managers can be a shambles at one club but have very decent gigs elsewhere.

Paul Hecky
Jack Ross
Paul Lambert
Laptop boy Cathro

Who else?


🤔 Alan Stubbs
Neil Lennon

Hibiza
09-05-2022, 05:28 PM
A long term signing target for the club. Way before Hecky took over. He was rubbish tho - thats for sure. Someone up there said Ross was a shambles. Its fine to say you didnt like some of his football but hes the least shambolic manager we've had in at least 10 years.
Least shambolic 😂 10/10.

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 05:39 PM
Yep, he came in and did well up until the end of the season. Only had one transfer window and unfortunately the players who came in either needed time to settle in or didn’t settle in at all. I’m sure Bartley has said that Hecky was one of the best managers he’s played under. He probably deserved more time but we don’t do that here.

I think Hecky and Ross maybe deserved more time because both had proved they could put out regular winning Hibs teams- before they both had bad spells.

As you say there is no patience any more though.

MWHIBBIES
09-05-2022, 06:42 PM
I think Hecky and Ross maybe deserved more time because both had proved they could put out regular winning Hibs teams- before they both had bad spells.

As you say there is no patience any more though.

I think there is an alternate timelime where Newell and Doidge started well and Boyle was fit and Hecky skooshed 3rd. He didn't work out, but you simply do not take the lead in so, so many games without doing something right. I actually think Hecky is a good manager who nothing went for.

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 06:48 PM
I think there is an alternate timelime where Newell and Doidge started well and Boyle was fit and Hecky skooshed 3rd. He didn't work out, but you simply do not take the lead in so, so many games without doing something right. I actually think Hecky is a good manager who nothing went for.

Agreed - Sheff U were 16th in the Champ when PH took over in November, he's worked wonders there.

JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 06:48 PM
That’s him. I’m normally good with names of former players as well. It was a combination of rage and feeling sorry for him that day. Looked lost.

Yep was poor can remember McGregor skinning him and he basically gave up running after him. Also managed to deflect a Derby winner in due to him not tracking back as well as you should have. Very poor signing.

Libby Hibby
09-05-2022, 06:54 PM
Should we have stuck with Hecky??, look at the job he’s done at Sheff Utd.

Sometimes people just ‘fit’ with clubs.

Hecky didn’t fit with us.

Since452
09-05-2022, 07:02 PM
According to the EEN we're not interested in McInnes.

CapitalGreen
09-05-2022, 07:33 PM
I think there is an alternate timelime where Newell and Doidge started well and Boyle was fit and Hecky skooshed 3rd. He didn't work out, but you simply do not take the lead in so, so many games without doing something right. I actually think Hecky is a good manager who nothing went for.

We conceded 22 goals in the 10 league games prior to Hecky’s departure, I’m not sure that can’t simply be put down to Newell, Boyle and Doidge not being fully available. Over that same period we also conceded another 8 goals in 3 games of the league cup. Defensively that’s on a par with the worst periods under Fenlon and Calderwood and worse than any similar period under Butcher.

Brown Hibs
09-05-2022, 07:47 PM
According to the EEN we're not interested in McInnes.

Can't tell you how much of a relief this is. Would genuinely reconsider renewing if he was appointed.

Coco Bryce
09-05-2022, 07:51 PM
According to the EEN we're not interested in McInnes.

And relax...

Mcbizz1998
09-05-2022, 07:53 PM
Can't tell you how much of a relief this is. Would genuinely reconsider renewing if he was appointed.

Grow up.

OldEast
09-05-2022, 07:58 PM
Can't tell you how much of a relief this is. Would genuinely reconsider renewing if he was appointed.

A bit dramatic no?

Brown Hibs
09-05-2022, 07:59 PM
Grow up.

You were up for a season of McInnes-ball before it all turned ugly and he was hounded out?

JohnM1875
09-05-2022, 08:01 PM
So that's apparently Roy Keane, Darren Ferguson and now Derek McInnes we've been told we're not interested in. Must have some name lined up.

JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 08:01 PM
I’ve got a strong feeling it’s going to be Lee Johnson.

oldbutdim
09-05-2022, 08:02 PM
Can't tell you how much of a relief this is. Would genuinely reconsider renewing if he was appointed.

Absolutely. :agree:

Mind numbing anti-football at the Sheep.
Close escape.

Coco Bryce
09-05-2022, 08:02 PM
So that's apparently Roy Keane, Darren Ferguson and now Derek McInnes we've been told we're not interested in. Must have some name lined up.

You forgot John Kennedy right at the start? 😂😂

Malky Mackay still not ruled out yet..

SteveHFC
09-05-2022, 08:07 PM
So that's apparently Roy Keane, Darren Ferguson and now Derek McInnes we've been told we're not interested in. Must have some name lined up.

Klopp? :hyper

04Sauzee
09-05-2022, 08:08 PM
I’ve got a strong feeling it’s going to be Lee Johnson.

That's who my money would be on. Out of work but only fairly recently, decent enough record. His usual assistant has played in Scotland . And he's still young.

Callum_62
09-05-2022, 08:11 PM
I’ve got a strong feeling it’s going to be Lee Johnson.Is that coz you put a wedge on him?

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Ive seen you mention his name a few times over the last few weeks - is that based on a hunch or something else?

No idea what he's like as a manager to be honest

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2 false nines! [emoji23][emoji44]
https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/lee-johnson-bristol-city-sunderland/


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EHZERO7
09-05-2022, 08:21 PM
That's who my money would be on. Out of work but only fairly recently, decent enough record. His usual assistant has played in Scotland . And he's still young.

Johnson has played in Scotland as well, albeit only a handful of games 😢

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 08:22 PM
That's who my money would be on. Out of work but only fairly recently, decent enough record. His usual assistant has played in Scotland . And he's still young.

Lee Johnson was sacked at Bristol City ( like McInnes). Nicknamed streaky by the fans cos he went on winning runs then huge losing runs. Fans never really took to him.

He was then sacked at Sunderland ( like Ross) following inconsistent results and a 6-0 defeat to Bolton. Fans views were mixed on him.

Can't see that appointment exciting too many people or any real logic behind him being chosen either.

Gmack7
09-05-2022, 08:29 PM
My guess would be Michael O'Neil, and it's purely a guess

JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 08:29 PM
Is that coz you put a wedge on him?

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Ive seen you mention his name a few times over the last few weeks - is that based on a hunch or something else?

No idea what he's like as a manager to be honest

Edit

2 false nines! [emoji23][emoji44]
https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/lee-johnson-bristol-city-sunderland/


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Basically 🤣

He’s definitely been interviewed as far as I’m aware.

Kensell will be well aware of him, he knows the Scottish game, him and his assistant both played for Hearts.

I thought he was well respected at Bristol City, got them flirting with the play offs and to the semi finals of the league cup after beating Man Utd, managing to score a few goals agains Man City.

Sunderland sacked him when they were 3rd and a point off automatic promotion which I thought was harsh. He also won the EFL trophy at Sunderland. I don’t think he would be a bad appointment.

CL0762
09-05-2022, 08:30 PM
Lee Johnson was sacked at Bristol City ( like McInnes). Nicknamed streaky by the fans cos he went on winning runs then huge losing runs. Fans never really took to him.

He was then sacked at Sunderland ( like Ross) following inconsistent results and a 6-0 defeat to Bolton. Fans views were mixed on him.

Can't see that appointment exciting too many people or any real logic behind him being chosen either.

Would get chased for being a ‘hearts c**t’ after a run of bad results.

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 08:33 PM
Basically 🤣

He’s definitely been interviewed as far as I’m aware.

Kensell will be well aware of him, he knows the Scottish game, him and his assistant both played for Hearts.

I thought he was well respected at Bristol City, got them flirting with the play offs and to the semi finals of the league cup after beating Man Utd, managing to score a few goals agains Man City.

Sunderland sacked him when they were 3rd and a point off automatic promotion which I thought was harsh. He also won a trophy at Sunderland. I don’t think he would be a bad appointment.

Johnson played 4 times for Hearts in 2006 - not sure that really constitutes him knowing the Scottish game.:cb

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 08:34 PM
Would get chased for being a ‘hearts ******’ after a run of bad results.

And going by his record with previous clubs a run like that would be inevitable.

JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 08:35 PM
Johnson played 4 times for Hearts in 2006 - not sure that really constitutes him knowing the Scottish game.:cb

Also won the league cup with Killie? Played about 20 games for them that season.

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 08:39 PM
Also won the league cup with Killie? Played about 20 games for them that season.

Sorry good point - :greengrin 20 games in 2012/13. Think my point stands though overall!

JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 08:40 PM
Sorry good point - :greengrin 20 games in 2012/13. Think my point stands though overall!

Two spells in Scottish football with two trophies. Not too shabby!

WeeRussell
09-05-2022, 08:40 PM
Johnson played 4 times for Hearts in 2006 - not sure that really constitutes him knowing the Scottish game.:cb

Almost all of us on here haven’t played a match but claim to know the Scottish game 😁

JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 08:43 PM
Can't tell you how much of a relief this is. Would genuinely reconsider renewing if he was appointed.

:greengrin

jacomo
09-05-2022, 08:50 PM
Almost all of us on here haven’t played a match but claim to know the Scottish game 😁


Aye cos we’re Fitba folk.

Col2
09-05-2022, 08:50 PM
Hope:-

Michael O’Neil
Mowbray
Malky Mackay (I rate him)

Expect:-

Appleton
McPake

JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 08:50 PM
Would get chased for being a ‘hearts c**t’ after a run of bad results.

Which would clearly be moronic if that happened. Think he is a decent manager however does have highs and lows.

mcfly
09-05-2022, 08:53 PM
Hope:-

Michael O’Neil
Mowbray
Malky Mackay (I rate him)

Expect:-

Appleton
McPake

Mcpake ? Absolutely no chance

Alex Trager
09-05-2022, 08:54 PM
Hope:-

Michael O’Neil
Mowbray
Malky Mackay (I rate him)

Expect:-

Appleton
McPake

I’d only take Mowbray there

LaMotta
09-05-2022, 08:55 PM
Almost all of us on here haven’t played a match but claim to know the Scottish game 😁

True - but then quite rightly none of us are in the running for the Hibs manager job. :greengrin

GreenCastle
09-05-2022, 09:03 PM
Lee Johnson is just a more experienced Maloney.

We can do better.

offshorehibby
09-05-2022, 09:04 PM
Hope:-

Michael O’Neil
Mowbray
Malky Mackay (I rate him)

Expect:-

Appleton
McPake

Fancied Appleton before Ross but still have a hankering for Ronny Deila.

HFC93
09-05-2022, 09:07 PM
Hope:-

Michael O’Neil
Mowbray
Malky Mackay (I rate him)

Expect:-

Appleton
McPake

Zero chance it's going to be McPake.

Unseen work
09-05-2022, 09:17 PM
I think Lee Johnson looks a good option on paper, looks to have done well wherever he goes.

Teams are supposedly attacking and score a lot of goals however are prone to conceding.