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Franck Stanton
18-05-2022, 06:36 PM
the reaction to this appointment is getting embarrassing.
Certainly is, quite embarrassing really.
The new manager isn't even in the door, in fact has'nt even been officially appointed & there are some on here already throwing their teddy's out the pram "if it is I won't be back" oh really!
If he makes good signings, wins first 3/4 games at start of season, IF you have ever been a Hibs suppprter, you will be back,
Coco Bryce
18-05-2022, 06:38 PM
Certainly is, quite embarrassing really.
The new manager isn't even in the door, in fact has'nt even been officially appointed & there are some on here already throwing their teddy's out the pram "if it is I won't be back" oh really!
If he makes good signings, wins first 3/4 games at start of season, IF you have ever been a Hibs suppprter, you will be back,
You think this news might have been leaked intentionally to gauge the fans reaction?
Doubt there's a single Hibs player in the squad excited by this.
It's ridiculous. Worse than Maloney.
Gutted that I bought 2 STs this week.
Don't want to fall out with you again but you are sounding a tad hysterical here.
flash
18-05-2022, 06:40 PM
You think this news might have been leaked intentionally to gauge the fans reaction?
If it was I wouldn't be surprised if we wake up tomorrow to find the club no longer exists.
If I was in charge I would be seriously wondering why I bother.
Since452
18-05-2022, 06:41 PM
If the board hadn't absolutely ballsed up by appointing Maloney would there be so much outrage about Johnson? If we'd appointed him after Jack Ross say? Is it because there is a large element of mistrust in the board making correct decisions? I actually think Johnson is an excellent appointment and will gladly fall on my sword if that doesn't turn out to be the case. I think they've got this one right.
If Lee Johnson turns out to be worse than Heckingbottom,Ross and Maloney, the games up for Ron I'm afraid.
And if he's better?
Callum_62
18-05-2022, 06:43 PM
If the board hadn't absolutely ballsed up by appointing Maloney would there be so much outrage about Johnson? If we'd appointed him after Jack Ross say? Is it because there is a large element of mistrust in the board making correct decisions? I actually think Johnson is an excellent appointment and will gladly fall on my sword if that doesn't turn out to be the case. I think they've got this one right.How will he command respect and sign any decent players but?
He's a nobody!
Not like Robbie neilson, Tam Coutts, Graeme Alexander, Malky McKay, David Martindale, Jim Goodwin or Callum Davidson
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HoboHarry
18-05-2022, 06:45 PM
BBC reporting on it now....
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61497427
If the board hadn't absolutely ballsed up by appointing Maloney would there be so much outrage about Johnson? If we'd appointed him after Jack Ross say? Is it because there is a large element of mistrust in the board making correct decisions? I actually think Johnson is an excellent appointment and will gladly fall on my sword if that doesn't turn out to be the case. I think they've got this one right.
I’m with you, I got carried away with the fancy names etc but I think LJ is a good appointment, been watching clips on YouTube today and I like what I’ve seen think we’ll get some good football, can’t wait till it’s official and we can get new players in
flash
18-05-2022, 06:47 PM
I know many won’t agree however I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your posts today.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Cheers Bingo. Likewise.
BBC reporting on it now....
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61497427
Reported by Brian the jambo 😂
Good glad when it's done and dusted
California-Hibs
18-05-2022, 06:48 PM
So many so-called Hibs fans absolutely begging for the guy to fail, just so they can say "I told you so" - even though they know nothing about him and nothing about the JDT fella, and know nothing about everything for that matter.
Desperate to fuel the fire that there's a rift between club and fans.
Utterly utterly pathetic.
This! There is so many Hibs fans out there that absolutely thrive and get off on being right about something negative that they'll increase more and more the want of that negativity to grow...... simple so they can feel the release of saying 'I told you so'. Its their 'funny' and 'look at me' card. So very very sad.
Horrible way to live and be.
Since452
18-05-2022, 06:49 PM
I’m with you, I got carried away with the fancy names etc but I think LJ is a good appointment, been watching clips on YouTube today and I like what I’ve seen think we’ll get some good football, can’t wait till it’s official and we can get new players in
I was the same. Initially wanted the big name without thinking logically about it. I think this will be a really clever appointment. Quite excited about it.
PaulSmith
18-05-2022, 06:50 PM
If it was I wouldn't be surprised if we wake up tomorrow to find the club no longer exists.
If I was in charge I would be seriously wondering why I bother.
I’m certain that we’re already draining the goodwill out of Ron Gordon so don’t think that day is too far off where he simply stops investing.
Franck Stanton
18-05-2022, 06:50 PM
You think this news might have been leaked intentionally to gauge the fans reaction?
Nope, no need for that, just come on .net to see the general feeling, sure they know it anyway
Greencore
18-05-2022, 06:51 PM
Who's telling you to back the manager every couple of months?
Ross was in charge for 25 months
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... the forum, twitter......
Kk, months / years. Smartie 😂
zitelli62
18-05-2022, 06:51 PM
Hope not but I have a feeling come September/October we will be in the same position looking for a new manager.
leith lynx
18-05-2022, 06:55 PM
Hope not but I have a feeling come September/October we will be in the same position looking for a new manager.
Same here unfortunately,
flash
18-05-2022, 06:57 PM
Hope not but I have a feeling come September/October we will be in the same position looking for a new manager.
No chance whatsoever.
Since452
18-05-2022, 06:57 PM
I’m certain that we’re already draining the goodwill out of Ron Gordon so don’t think that day is too far off where he simply stops investing.
Some of our support drain me and I've been a supporter my whole life. It does concern me a bit.
blackpoolhibs
18-05-2022, 06:57 PM
Hope not but I have a feeling come September/October we will be in the same position looking for a new manager.
I have no idea how it will pan out, i also have no idea how much he will get to spend, who he will spend it on and how they will do?
Greencore
18-05-2022, 06:59 PM
Hope not but I have a feeling come September/October we will be in the same position looking for a new manager.
Hope not.
bingo70
18-05-2022, 07:00 PM
Cheers Bingo. Likewise.
The thing that’s got me today isn’t the people who have aired concerns or perhaps raised valid concerns, he wasn’t my first pick, or yours I don’t think.
It’s the nutters who have completely written him off already, calling it a disgrace etc. healthy debate on the pros and cons of a new manager is absolutely fine and exactly what this place is for, far too many people have crossed that line though and some of the stuff said has been ridiculous.
Mentioned it on another thread I think but it takes an incredible amount of arrogance to close your mind completely to the idea you could be wrong or to even think that you know more than people who have met him, researched him, got references as well as doing the same with other candidates. Yes, we got the Maloney appointment wrong but it looks to me we’ve been very careful not to make the same mistakes again.
I think he’ll probably do alright and is a pretty safe appointment. I’m all honesty, there is a couple of things that concern me a bit but what’s the point in focusing on them and quite frankly be a dick about it? Might as well just focus on the positives, and there are plenty, and hope for the best.
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 07:07 PM
Doubt there's a single Hibs player in the squad excited by this.
It's ridiculous. Worse than Maloney.
Gutted that I bought 2 STs this week.
Laughable
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 07:10 PM
If it was I wouldn't be surprised if we wake up tomorrow to find the club no longer exists.
If I was in charge I would be seriously wondering why I bother.
He certainly must be considering it given the relentless campaign which seems to be waged on the club. Some fans get the team they deserve
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 07:14 PM
The thing that’s got me today isn’t the people who have aired concerns or perhaps raised valid concerns, he wasn’t my first pick, or yours I don’t think.
It’s the nutters who have completely written him off already, calling it a disgrace etc. healthy debate on the pros and cons of a new manager is absolutely fine and exactly what this place is for, far too many people have crossed that line though and some of the stuff said has been ridiculous.
Mentioned it on another thread I think but it takes an incredible amount of arrogance to close your mind completely to the idea you could be wrong or to even think that you know more than people who have met him, researched him, got references as well as doing the same with other candidates. Yes, we got the Maloney appointment wrong but it looks to me we’ve been very careful not to make the same mistakes again.
I think he’ll probably do alright and is a pretty safe appointment. I’m all honesty, there is a couple of things that concern me a bit but what’s the point in focusing on them and quite frankly be a dick about it? Might as well just focus on the positives, and there are plenty, and hope for the best.
Totally agree the guy is an experienced manager at a decent level over a number of years and really deserves a bit more respect than he is getting. Really doesn't show us as supporters in a good light at all. Give the boy a chance ffs
I’m with you, I got carried away with the fancy names etc but I think LJ is a good appointment, been watching clips on YouTube today and I like what I’ve seen think we’ll get some good football, can’t wait till it’s official and we can get new players in
Like wise so easy to get caught up in the big name hype of Roy Keane etc. Now looking forward to LJ coming in.
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 07:16 PM
I have no idea how it will pan out, i also have no idea how much he will get to spend, who he will spend it on and how they will do?
Nobody does :greengrin
blackpoolhibs
18-05-2022, 07:20 PM
Nobody does :greengrin
Exactly, so predicting doom and gloom is pointless, and some folk are being negative for no other reason than they enjoy it as far as i can see.
Hibs90
18-05-2022, 07:20 PM
You think this news might have been leaked intentionally to gauge the fans reaction?
I think it's been leaked because they know full well what the fans reaction would be and they probably hope by the official announcement things will have calmed down a bit.
Tyler Durden
18-05-2022, 07:21 PM
Maybe he did. That’s one thing struck off the list potentially
Why did someone who has a lack of knowledge of the Scottish market and didn’t seem committed to a project like ours make it to the final two?
There’s a hell of a lot of apparent issues with Tomasson according to that article for someone that made it to the final two in our process.
Probably cos this notion of a “final 2” is a load of bollocks. It’s not The Apprentice.
All this stuff is total speculation by the media, lapped up because many fans understandably wanted to believe Tomasson was in contention
bingo70
18-05-2022, 07:22 PM
Totally agree the guy is an experienced manager at a decent level over a number of years and really deserves a bit more respect than he is getting. Really doesn't show us as supporters in a good light at all. Give the boy a chance ffs
I know it’s not a full proof way of judging him however over 4 jobs, his average time he stays in a job is 2.11 years. I’ve spent far too much time on transfermarkt over the last few weeks and from what I can see that is a hell of a long time to stay in jobs in the current climate so for me that shows a level of competence.
By way of comparison across JDT’s average time in charge is 0.9 years over his 3 managerial jobs.
basehibby
18-05-2022, 07:23 PM
As one of the 6.72% who actually favoured Johnson over JDT I'd like to break the monotony of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by saying I'm quite pleased :greengrin
Although I thought JDT was an impressive candidate I thought Johnson pipped him on a couple of areas:
Consistent upwards progress through most of his managerial career - pattern of turning teams around and performing well before getting poached by bigger clubs. Obvious exception to his success story is Sunderland but then Sunderland tend to go through managers like Buckfast at a jakey's convention. JDT did very well at Malmo but had little track record of success prior to that.
Has experience of Scottish football - this is useful in terms of hitting the ground running. Many coaches who have never played or managed here tend to underestimate the challenge and come unstuck.
His track record suggests he is capable of working with a relatively limited budget - something which, even if Ron was to splash the cash, would still be necessary at Hibs relative to the OF.
Of course I know bugger all having poo-poo'ed Mowbray and cheered the appointment of Butcher - but I'd suggest that most of the posters on here pissing their pants are equally as clueless. So - let's put our whinging faces to bed and welcome Lee to Hibs please! :flag::flag::flag:
MWHIBBIES
18-05-2022, 07:26 PM
Doubt there's a single Hibs player in the squad excited by this.
It's ridiculous. Worse than Maloney.
Gutted that I bought 2 STs this week.
Gutted you are supporting your club? Whys that?
We don't know the ins and outs of any financial discussions with JDT, it could be he wanted more than just his assistant to come in and the total wages were too much for the club. I'm pretty sure he'll have known his own wage prior to the final interview process, that's his agents job, as I said it may have been the total package wanted for his own men around him, or maybe he was wanting too much of a transfer kitty than we can afford.
Callum_62
18-05-2022, 07:30 PM
It will be interesting to see where JDT finally ends up anyway
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Tambo
18-05-2022, 07:30 PM
Don't want to start a thread on its own so thought I'd highjack this one. When will the new manager find out the fixtures for next season? Need to book my holidays asap for the rest of the year.
leith lynx
18-05-2022, 07:31 PM
And if he's better?
We'll have won a watch!
One Day Soon
18-05-2022, 07:32 PM
Probably cos this notion of a “final 2” is a load of bollocks. It’s not The Apprentice.
All this stuff is total speculation by the media, lapped up because many fans understandably wanted to believe Tomasson was in contention
There’s a video of an interview with Ben Kensell from some weeks after the Maloney appointment in which he literally describes what they did as ‘the usual process’ of drawing up a long list, reducing that to a short list and then getting it down to the final two. Whatever else you may think about this appointment - good or bad and assuming it is actually LJ - there’s little doubt about the process they used. The reporting today supports that.
hibbyfraelibby
18-05-2022, 07:35 PM
Could you see hearts appointing 2 ex Hibbes, just wouldn’t happen
Willie Ormond anyone ?
Greencore
18-05-2022, 07:36 PM
It will be interesting to see where JDT finally ends up anyway
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McGruber
18-05-2022, 07:39 PM
As one of the 6.72% who actually favoured Johnson over JDT I'd like to break the monotony of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by saying I'm quite pleased :greengrin
Although I thought JDT was an impressive candidate I thought Johnson pipped him on a couple of areas:
Consistent upwards progress through most of his managerial career - pattern of turning teams around and performing well before getting poached by bigger clubs. Obvious exception to his success story is Sunderland but then Sunderland tend to go through managers like Buckfast at a jakey's convention. JDT did very well at Malmo but had little track record of success prior to that.
Has experience of Scottish football - this is useful in terms of hitting the ground running. Many coaches who have never played or managed here tend to underestimate the challenge and come unstuck.
His track record suggests he is capable of working with a relatively limited budget - something which, even if Ron was to splash the cash, would still be necessary at Hibs relative to the OF.
Of course I know bugger all having poo-poo'ed Mowbray and cheered the appointment of Butcher - but I'd suggest that most of the posters on here pissing their pants are equally as clueless. So - let's put our whinging faces to bed and welcome Lee to Hibs please! :flag::flag::flag:
As someone at the other end of the spectrum that absolutely didn't want Lee Johnson I'm not pleased but given he is now pretty much confirmed all that is gone. From here on he gets my backing and will judge him on his merits as Hibs manager only. Hope he is a resounding success (I don't buy into this sentiment anyone wishes he fails). Good luck Lee and welcome aboard
easty
18-05-2022, 07:40 PM
Doubt there's a single Hibs player in the squad excited by this.
It's ridiculous. Worse than Maloney.
Gutted that I bought 2 STs this week.
Worse than Maloney…
For **** sake
Get a grip 😂
Paul1642
18-05-2022, 07:40 PM
I’m excited for this. He’s not exactly competing with the likes of Klopp.
Hibstrooper
18-05-2022, 07:45 PM
Never convinced by JDT, a much bigger gamble than Johnson.
Delighted we are bringing in someone who has a track record of playing attacking football and looking forward to some exciting games at ER again after a few years of pretty uninspiring stuff
We'll have won a watch!
There you go now your talking 👌
G15 Hibs
18-05-2022, 07:47 PM
Don't want to start a thread on its own so thought I'd highjack this one. When will the new manager find out the fixtures for next season? Need to book my holidays asap for the rest of the year.
17 June
https://spfl.co.uk/news/fixture-release-202223
Coco Bryce
18-05-2022, 07:48 PM
Has this news been officially released yet? If not I wonder why not?
Callum_62
18-05-2022, 07:51 PM
Has this news been officially released yet? If not I wonder why not?Waiting for half of the media to come back from Seville probbaly
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CL0762
18-05-2022, 07:57 PM
Manager being announced tomorrow.
WhileTheChief..
18-05-2022, 07:59 PM
Gutted you are supporting your club? Whys that?
Deadline was extended to the 31st :greengrin
May21/05/216
18-05-2022, 08:01 PM
Have I logged on to a thread of yam trolls ???
This seems like a very good appointment. Thank goodness the lunatics aren't running the asylumI agree it's an absolute cesspit of fruitcakes
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BristolAnn
18-05-2022, 08:01 PM
Who can't be worse than Jack Ross, and can't be worse that Paul Heckingbottom etc etc etc, I just hope due diligence was done and at the very least Lee Johnson is allowed implement his plans and see out his contract, we can't continue with a cycle of sacking managers after a few bad results then starting again, it takes time for any manager to build the team he wants, and implement his style of football.
At least Lee Johnson is getting used to being sacked! Last one after only fourteen months.
Hibees1973
18-05-2022, 08:03 PM
Huh....oh dear, is this the best we can do.
No more qualified for the job than Jack Ross and Johnson has little/no knowledge of the game in Scotland.
At a time when we needed a bit of stability they go for a failed manager from the lower leagues in England. McInnes should have been appointed. This would have been the logical choice at this time.
A poor start to the season will hasten the departure of our inept and clueless owner and this spivvy Chief Exec. The sooner the better.
easty
18-05-2022, 08:05 PM
Totally agree the guy is an experienced manager at a decent level over a number of years and really deserves a bit more respect than he is getting. Really doesn't show us as supporters in a good light at all. Give the boy a chance ffs
I think he’s as experienced a manager as we’ve had for a long time. I looked up the average length of time a manager has a job in the English Championship. I could only find a study from 2017, that said it was 1.07 years on average.
Johnson had the Bristol City job for 4 and a half seasons in that league. It’s a very competitive league, that says a lot in my opinion.
https://leaguemanagers.com/documents/55/LMA_End_of_Season_Report_and_Statistics_2016-17.pdf
Gordy M
18-05-2022, 08:05 PM
At least Lee Johnson is getting used to being sacked! Last one after only fourteen months.
Aye cos Bristol.City have fairly rocketed up the leagie since he left........
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 08:05 PM
Exactly, so predicting doom and gloom is pointless, and some folk are being negative for no other reason than they enjoy it as far as i can see.
Spot on
Jones28
18-05-2022, 08:08 PM
Huh....oh dear, is this the best we can do.
No more qualified for the job than Jack Ross and Johnson has little/no knowledge of the game in Scotland.
At a time when we needed a bit of stability they go for a failed manager from the lower leagues in England. McInnes should have been appointed. This would have been the logical choice at this time.
A poor start to the season will hasten the departure of our inept and clueless owner and this spivvy Chief Exec. The sooner the better.
Aww, you’re back!
Nicho87
18-05-2022, 08:11 PM
Johnson only preferred by board as we couldn’t afford JDT
Underwhelming
Motherwell or Kilmarnock type appointment
Northernhibee
18-05-2022, 08:17 PM
Johnson only preferred by board as we couldn’t afford JDT
Underwhelming
Motherwell or Kilmarnock type appointment
Motherwell who have European football to look forward to next season? Would take that.
Mon Dieu4
18-05-2022, 08:20 PM
Wrong thread haha
bingo70
18-05-2022, 08:22 PM
Motherwell who have European football to look forward to next season? Would take that.
And Kilmarnock with the manager that many of our supporters want.
ekhibee
18-05-2022, 08:22 PM
Aye cos Bristol.City have fairly rocketed up the leagie since he left........
True, but they didn't rocket up the league when he was there either.
Gordy M
18-05-2022, 08:25 PM
True, but they didn't rocket up the league when he was there either.
Im sure they finished 8th in his last season.....highest league position in years......
easty
18-05-2022, 08:25 PM
True, but they didn't rocket up the league when he was there either.
18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th in his time there.
18th to 8th is pretty good like.
ElginHibbie
18-05-2022, 08:29 PM
At a time when we needed a bit of stability they go for a failed manager from the lower leagues in England. McInnes should have been appointed.
So your suggestion to an alternative to "a failed manager from the lower leagues in England" is someone who failed as a manager in the lower leagues in England?
easty
18-05-2022, 08:32 PM
So your suggestion to an alternative to "a failed manager from the lower leagues in England" is someone who failed as a manager in the lower leagues in England?
It doesnae have to make sense, anything to bash the club.
Mark05
18-05-2022, 08:34 PM
I wanted JTD,it would have been interesting to see what he could have done.Something different from the usual British managers.But I will support the new manager 100%.I have followed hibs all my life I'm not going to take the huff cause I didn't agree with the appointment let's give the man a chance oh **** rangers just scored 😪
ekhibee
18-05-2022, 08:35 PM
18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th in his time there.
18th to 8th is pretty good like.
How? He's not got his team anywhere near the top of the table. If he's been brought in to stable the ship then fair enough, but, and this is only an opinion, if we are to progress is he really the guy to do it? I hope so.
Eaststand
18-05-2022, 08:37 PM
Some of our support drain me and I've been a supporter my whole life. It does concern me a bit.
I wish our new manager all the best and he'll get my full support.
In my opinion there's a small but very noticeable number of posters on here, the same 5 or 6 attention seeking tossers who spout negative garbage about our club day in day out.
Sensible debate is good, having an opinion is important, but these miserably sad people drag this site down.
Power the the proper Hibs supporters who back our players and manager.
C'mon the cabbage 👍🏻🇳🇬
GGTTH
WeeRussell
18-05-2022, 08:39 PM
I wish our new manager all the best and he'll get my full support.
In my opinion there's a small but very noticeable section of posters on here, the same 5 or 6 attention seeking tossers who spout negative garbage about our club day in day out.
Sensible debate is good, having an opinion is important, but these miserably sad people drag this site down.
Power the the proper Hibs supporters who back our players and manager 👍🏻🇳🇬
GGTTH
“Attention seeking tossers” 😂
Firm but I like it. 👍
Greencore
18-05-2022, 08:39 PM
Other poster said board rejected JDT because he didn't know scottish and English market... transfer committee??????
Eaststand
18-05-2022, 08:42 PM
“Attention seeking tossers” 😂
Firm but I like it. 👍
I failed my test to join the diplomatic office, but I think my choice of words in the post still seems right 😎
GGTTH
CapitalGreen
18-05-2022, 08:43 PM
Other poster said board rejected JDT because he didn't know scottish and English market... transfer committee??????
The manager is the most important member of the transfer committee.
Just_Jimmy
18-05-2022, 08:44 PM
Other poster said board rejected JDT because he didn't know scottish and English market... transfer committee??????Can he not watch players in the flesh or on video like?
Seems a rubbish excuse.
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Greencore
18-05-2022, 08:46 PM
Can he not watch players in the flesh or on video like?
Seems a rubbish excuse.
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Ah well saved us about 2k appointing LJ
Hibbyradge
18-05-2022, 08:47 PM
Can he not watch players in the flesh or on video like?
Seems a rubbish excuse.
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It's a reason not an excuse. If it's true.
easty
18-05-2022, 08:48 PM
How? He's not got his team anywhere near the top of the table. If he's been brought in to stable the ship then fair enough, but, and this is only an opinion, if we are to progress is he really the guy to do it? I hope so.
They’d just come up, be took them to a comfortable mid table side.
Is an English Championship manager only doing a good job if they’re near the top of the table?
You’d no want Michael O’Neill either then? His Stoke side just finished 14th.
Silky
18-05-2022, 08:52 PM
Other poster said board rejected JDT because he didn't know scottish and English market... transfer committee??????
Other posters have said quite a lot. Nobody has provided evidence. But it's a fans forum and people can believe what they want. I haven't seen anything from a reliable source to suggest that what was alleged is true, so I don't believe it.
Just_Jimmy
18-05-2022, 08:57 PM
It's a reason not an excuse. If it's true.Not for appointing LJ over JDT it isn't when you review their cvs.
I'm not anti LJ. There's been some amount of dross posted in relation to it all. Your second point is the most relevant... if its true. No one REALLY knows if hibs were even in for one or the other or why one gets it over the other.
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Greencore
18-05-2022, 09:05 PM
Other posters have said quite a lot. Nobody has provided evidence. But it's a fans forum and people can believe what they want. I haven't seen anything from a reliable source to suggest that what was alleged is true, so I don't believe it.
Good point mate 👍
Silky
18-05-2022, 09:08 PM
How? He's not got his team anywhere near the top of the table. If he's been brought in to stable the ship then fair enough, but, and this is only an opinion, if we are to progress is he really the guy to do it? I hope so.
Hecky had a team near the top of the table (and won the playoffs and EFL trophy) before coming to Hibs. That went well.........
Silky
18-05-2022, 09:17 PM
[QUOTE=Nicho87;6966208]Johnson only preferred by board as we couldn’t afford JDT
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Source?
Jones28
18-05-2022, 09:18 PM
Johnson only preferred by board as we couldn’t afford JDT
Underwhelming
Motherwell or Kilmarnock type appointment
Source?
There’s none. Total **** as usual
Silky
18-05-2022, 09:18 PM
Source?
There’s none. Total **** as usual[/QUOTE]
:agree:
I failed my test to join the diplomatic office, but I think my choice of words in the post still seems right 😎
GGTTH
I'm with you!! 😀
Smartie
18-05-2022, 09:25 PM
Source?
There’s none. Total **** as usual[/QUOTE]
It might be true. If it is, I’m not sure it’s exactly something to be sneered at.
We’ve seen loads of clubs get into financial trouble in Scotland by spending beyond their means. There will be a line beyond which there are managers who are financially out of our reach if we’re to be a sensibly run club. It might just be that JDT is on the other side of that line and we are left choosing from amongst those we can afford.
I don’t have a problem with Hibs having carried out a rigorous process and appointed the person they see as the best fit. No, the people in charge of that decision haven’t exactly earned our trust of late but the prompt sacking of Maloney was a step in the right direction. Hopefully this is the next one.
NC1875
18-05-2022, 09:28 PM
If his name was Leonardo Johnson half the fan base would be creaming thereselves.
Ridiculous
Silky
18-05-2022, 09:31 PM
If his name was Leonardo Johnson half the fan base would be creaming thereselves.
Ridiculous
:faf::faf::top marks
Smartie
18-05-2022, 09:35 PM
Leopold van Johnsonsson
easty
18-05-2022, 09:43 PM
Lee Dahl Jonsson
Paulie Walnuts
18-05-2022, 10:19 PM
Probably cos this notion of a “final 2” is a load of bollocks. It’s not The Apprentice.
All this stuff is total speculation by the media, lapped up because many fans understandably wanted to believe Tomasson was in contention
That’s literally the way these same people have recruited managers before so in no way is it apprentice bollocks.
Ben Kensell has even said that’s how they done it last time.
JimBHibees
18-05-2022, 10:22 PM
Willie Ormond anyone ?
Yeah but apart from one of our most important players in comparison to a guy who played 4 yes 4 games for Hearts
hibby67
18-05-2022, 10:23 PM
Announce Agent Aaron Ramsey the only man to unite the Hibs fans
bigwheel
18-05-2022, 10:24 PM
Announce Agent Aaron Ramsey the only man to unite the Hibs fans
RG will be calling him up and thanking him for taking the pressure off for a few days
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Scottie
18-05-2022, 10:27 PM
If his name was Leonardo Johnson half the fan base would be creaming thereselves.
Ridiculous
If you had said Ulrika Johnson maybe the other half of the fan base would be creaming themselves.
easty
18-05-2022, 10:30 PM
If you had said Ulrika Johnson maybe the other half of the fan base would be creaming themselves.
I think John Leslie prob ruined our chances of bringing her in.
Callum_62
18-05-2022, 10:32 PM
Excited to hear what he has to say tomorrow [emoji106]
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leith lynx
18-05-2022, 10:36 PM
Excited to hear what he has to say tomorrow [emoji106]
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Who? John Leslie?
Iain G
18-05-2022, 10:40 PM
[QUOTE=Nicho87;6966208]Johnson only preferred by board as we couldn’t afford JDT
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Source?
It's because we save 33% on personalising every bit of gear we have to issue to the manager by going for LJ over JDT 😁
IberianHibernian
18-05-2022, 10:43 PM
Our most successful managers this century have been ones who took over in summer and I`d expect that to continue now . Also we`re extrememly unlikely to have even half the serious injuries we had this season again . No idea how long the new manager is thinking of staying ( till a better offer from England I suppose ) but he`s got a chance to do well especially if we can sign a couple of decent players in summer - full pre season , lower expectations , poor competition , team which reached a final and semi and was very close to almost guaranteed Europe despite injuries , soon to be improved ( I presume ) ,
NC1875
18-05-2022, 10:46 PM
Who? John Leslie?
As long as he brings Abi Titmuss
leith lynx
18-05-2022, 10:52 PM
As long as he brings Abi Titmuss
and Catherine Zeta Jones on the other arm...
Dr_Regal
19-05-2022, 01:46 AM
Our most successful managers this century have been ones who took over in summer and I`d expect that to continue now . Also we`re extrememly unlikely to have even half the serious injuries we had this season again . No idea how long the new manager is thinking of staying ( till a better offer from England I suppose ) but he`s got a chance to do well especially if we can sign a couple of decent players in summer - full pre season , lower expectations , poor competition , team which reached a final and semi and was very close to almost guaranteed Europe despite injuries , soon to be improved ( I presume ) ,
Agree with this. It's a fantastic opportunity for Johnson, he almost cant fail next year.
Greenio
19-05-2022, 01:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nPIZmXIC0&t=32s&ab_channel=TheCoaches%27Voice
Pretty interesting insight into LJ's approach in his win against Man U
Is it Beckham he sounds like?
Lost_Mackem
19-05-2022, 05:43 AM
His teams can’t defend. Some of the hidings we endured under him had to be seen to be believed. The 6-0 loss to Bolton was as bad as I’ve ever seen and proved to be his downfall.
His “streaky Lee” tag is well earned too as you shall find out.
Paulie Walnuts
19-05-2022, 05:51 AM
His teams can’t defend. Some of the hidings we endured under him had to be seen to be believed. The 6-0 loss to Bolton was as bad as I’ve ever seen and proved to be his downfall.
His “streaky Lee” tag is well earned too as you shall find out.
Although unable to defend, was the football enjoyable to watch?
Since452
19-05-2022, 05:52 AM
His teams can’t defend. Some of the hidings we endured under him had to be seen to be believed. The 6-0 loss to Bolton was as bad as I’ve ever seen and proved to be his downfall.
His “streaky Lee” tag is well earned too as you shall find out.
Thanks but I take what fans say about ex managers with a pinch of salt. Let's be honest. Who has succeeded at Sunderland in the last 10 years? People say Jack Ross was crap but he had us top scorers outside the OF, got us to Europe and cup finals and 3rd for the first time in 16 years. MK Dons fans slated Robbie Neilson and look at Hearts etc. Needs to be the right fit.
Not a very inspiring choice but let’s see what he does.
Heisenberg
19-05-2022, 05:56 AM
His teams can’t defend. Some of the hidings we endured under him had to be seen to be believed. The 6-0 loss to Bolton was as bad as I’ve ever seen and proved to be his downfall.
His “streaky Lee” tag is well earned too as you shall find out.
His style certainly seems to be quite boom and bust.
Sunderland 5-0 Cheltenham
Crewe 0-4 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Morecambe
Doncaster 0-3 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Sheffield Wednesday
Portsmouth 4-0 Sunderland
Rotherham 5-1 Sunderland
Sheffield Wednesday 3-0 Sunderland
Bolton 6-0 Sunderland
Since452
19-05-2022, 05:57 AM
His style certainly seems to be quite boom and bust.
Sunderland 5-0 Cheltenham
Crewe 0-4 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Morecambe
Doncaster 0-3 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Sheffield Wednesday
Portsmouth 4-0 Sunderland
Rotherham 5-1 Sunderland
Sheffield Wednesday 3-0 Sunderland
Bolton 6-0 Sunderland
He will certainly please the "have a go" types.
hibee-boys
19-05-2022, 05:58 AM
I think John Leslie prob ruined our chances of bringing her in.
🙈😂
JimBHibees
19-05-2022, 05:58 AM
His teams can’t defend. Some of the hidings we endured under him had to be seen to be believed. The 6-0 loss to Bolton was as bad as I’ve ever seen and proved to be his downfall.
His “streaky Lee” tag is well earned too as you shall find out.
Thanks how long was he at SOL? Seems odd he was sacked when third. Is that Raich Carter in your photo? Good luck at the weekend. :aok:
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 05:59 AM
His style certainly seems to be quite boom and bust.
Sunderland 5-0 Cheltenham
Crewe 0-4 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Morecambe
Doncaster 0-3 Sunderland
Sunderland 5-0 Sheffield Wednesday
Portsmouth 4-0 Sunderland
Rotherham 5-1 Sunderland
Sheffield Wednesday 3-0 Sunderland
Bolton 6-0 Sunderland
The English Yogi Hughes.
GreenCastle
19-05-2022, 06:02 AM
So todays the day he officially gets announced..
Stonewall
19-05-2022, 06:13 AM
Does anyone really care where he played a small part of his football? It has nothing to do with his coaching and management credentials .
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As a Weymouth fan I for one am disgusted Hibs are employing not one but two ex Yeovil players so I won’t be back.
JimBHibees
19-05-2022, 06:16 AM
As a Weymouth fan I for one am disgusted Hibs are employing not one but two ex Yeovil players so I won’t be back.
:greengrin
Leighonel
19-05-2022, 06:22 AM
I am going to be completely honest and admit I did get swept up with JDT rumours. I feel he wouldve been a really exciting appointment.
With that being said I was realistic and always had in the back of my head it would be LJ. I am excited by this appointment. Sunderland seem to shop in the same markets as us, so he will have ideas of players. My mate is a Sunderland fan and he said they did play attacking football, sometimes to the detriment of results, but it was always exciting.
I just hope the club back him with a decent transfer/wage budget.
Paulie Walnuts
19-05-2022, 06:25 AM
I am going to be completely honest and admit I did get swept up with JDT rumours. I feel he wouldve been a really exciting appointment.
With that being said I was realistic and always had in the back of my head it would be LJ. I am excited by this appointment. Sunderland seem to shop in the same markets as us, so he will have ideas of players. My mate is a Sunderland fan and he said they did play attacking football, sometimes to the detriment of results, but it was always exciting.
I just hope the club back him with a decent transfer/wage budget.
Hopefully your second paragraph is the case at Hibs.
We need the players in to do it though. This squad doesn’t have the players for attacking, exciting football as it stands.
Lost_Mackem
19-05-2022, 08:32 AM
Although unable to defend, was the football enjoyable to watch?
At times yes. It was bizarre because we’d go from hammering teams and looking in very good form to all of a sudden just collapsing into long spells of poor form. Just after Xmas we hammered Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 to go top of the league and with the transfer window coming up looked in a very strong position. Fast forward 2 weeks and we’d lost at home to Lincoln and drew 1-1 at Accrington despite being 1-0 up and playing against ten men.
End of January we lost 6-0 at Bolton. That’s how quickly the wheels came off.
Lost_Mackem
19-05-2022, 08:34 AM
Thanks how long was he at SOL? Seems odd he was sacked when third. Is that Raich Carter in your photo? Good luck at the weekend. :aok:
About 14 months. Yes it is mate and thank you very much the nerves are kicking in already.
He's here!
19-05-2022, 09:03 AM
Thanks but I take what fans say about ex managers with a pinch of salt. Let's be honest. Who has succeeded at Sunderland in the last 10 years? People say Jack Ross was crap but he had us top scorers outside the OF, got us to Europe and cup finals and 3rd for the first time in 16 years. MK Dons fans slated Robbie Neilson and look at Hearts etc. Needs to be the right fit.
Jack Ross was certainly not crap. We could have avoided all this mess by sticking with him. I'm hard pressed to see how Johnson is an improvement, but hope to be proved wrong.
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 09:37 AM
Jack Ross was certainly not crap. We could have avoided all this mess by sticking with him. I'm hard pressed to see how Johnson is an improvement, but hope to be proved wrong.
You have no idea if that is true. The period of league form before Ross got sacked was worse than any period of similar length under Maloney and Ross had a peak Boyle at his disposal.
Paulie Walnuts
19-05-2022, 09:40 AM
Jack Ross was certainly not crap. We could have avoided all this mess by sticking with him. I'm hard pressed to see how Johnson is an improvement, but hope to be proved wrong.
We were literally in the exact same mess with him as manager. This mess started with him.
Lester B
19-05-2022, 09:41 AM
At times yes. It was bizarre because we’d go from hammering teams and looking in very good form to all of a sudden just collapsing into long spells of poor form. Just after Xmas we hammered Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 to go top of the league and with the transfer window coming up looked in a very strong position. Fast forward 2 weeks and we’d lost at home to Lincoln and drew 1-1 at Accrington despite being 1-0 up and playing against ten men.
End of January we lost 6-0 at Bolton. That’s how quickly the wheels came off.
Almost exactly what a good friend of mine who's a season ticket holder at Sunderland says. He reckons Johnson has learned from those and says that he's better than Neil who seems too cautious by comparison. Funnily enough he has exactly the same views about Ross and Butcher as I do. He did text me after Maloney was fired saying that we should go for LJ.
And all the very best for the weekend. A return up the leagues is long overdue for Sunderland
Paulie Walnuts
19-05-2022, 09:48 AM
At times yes. It was bizarre because we’d go from hammering teams and looking in very good form to all of a sudden just collapsing into long spells of poor form. Just after Xmas we hammered Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 to go top of the league and with the transfer window coming up looked in a very strong position. Fast forward 2 weeks and we’d lost at home to Lincoln and drew 1-1 at Accrington despite being 1-0 up and playing against ten men.
End of January we lost 6-0 at Bolton. That’s how quickly the wheels came off.
Cheers :aok:
McGruber
19-05-2022, 09:50 AM
At times yes. It was bizarre because we’d go from hammering teams and looking in very good form to all of a sudden just collapsing into long spells of poor form. Just after Xmas we hammered Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 to go top of the league and with the transfer window coming up looked in a very strong position. Fast forward 2 weeks and we’d lost at home to Lincoln and drew 1-1 at Accrington despite being 1-0 up and playing against ten men.
End of January we lost 6-0 at Bolton. That’s how quickly the wheels came off.
Not sure how the pattern of long losing streaks will sit with a trigger happy board intolerant to losing streaks. Hopefully he has learned a few lessons from before and finds a decent consistency to go with good attacking football.
Heisenberg
19-05-2022, 09:53 AM
Not sure how the pattern of long losing streaks will sit with a trigger happy board intolerant to losing streaks. Hopefully he has learned a few lessons from before and finds a decent consistency to go with good attacking football.
His worst run appears to have been three defeats in a row (3-0 and 5-1 defeats included) then went on a ten game unbeaten run before the Lincoln defeat and Accrington draw. Doesn’t seem to have taken them on a run like we saw with Maloney/Ross last season.
bigwheel
19-05-2022, 09:57 AM
His worst run appears to have been three defeats in a row (3-0 and 5-1 defeats included) then went on a ten game unbeaten run before the Lincoln defeat and Accrington draw. Doesn’t seem to have taken them on a run like we saw with Maloney/Ross last season.
He had an 8 game losing streak whilst at Barnsley according to his Wiki
Eaststand
19-05-2022, 09:57 AM
About 14 months. Yes it is mate and thank you very much the nerves are kicking in already.
Good luck for the game at the weekend, I'd love to see Sunderland moving up then eventually getting back amongst the teams in the top League 👍🏻
GGTTH
Heisenberg
19-05-2022, 10:01 AM
He had an 8 game losing streak whilst at Barnsley according to his Wiki
Only looked at Sunderland last season. That sort of run would definitely have Ronald Gordon sweating though.
Smartie
19-05-2022, 10:03 AM
His worst run appears to have been three defeats in a row (3-0 and 5-1 defeats included) then went on a ten game unbeaten run before the Lincoln defeat and Accrington draw. Doesn’t seem to have taken them on a run like we saw with Maloney/Ross last season.
We haven't taken many spankings this season, as poor as we've been.
Maloney's pragmatism is probably a lot to do with that. I wasn't happy when we did our usual "every man back to defend a corner" routine in the 89th minute of the Dundee United game at 1-1 in a game we needed to win.
TBH I'd take heavier defeats every day of the week if it means our manager is gambling to try to nick points here and there from difficult positions rather than accepting narrow defeats.
It sounds like that's where a few of these unlikely thrashings have come from for Johnson.
Unseen work
19-05-2022, 10:11 AM
I know managers need to take some responsibility but Sunderland losing 6-0 to Sunderland only a couple of weeks after beating Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 makes me think it was a shocking display from the players other than him getting his tactics etc horribly wrong.
I know he said his mistakes in the past has been he’s continued to attack when losing but cmon.
He's here!
19-05-2022, 10:13 AM
You have no idea if that is true. The period of league form before Ross got sacked was worse than any period of similar length under Maloney and Ross had a peak Boyle at his disposal.
That's true but I don't think Ross was the main problem. I think the way the club is run these days is the more alarming factor. Expecting Maloney to turn things around was a reckless move and we've now replaced him with somebody who, on paper, doesn't come with much more than Ross brought to the table.
Moulin Yarns
19-05-2022, 10:15 AM
I know managers need to take some responsibility but Sunderland losing 6-0 to Sunderland only a couple of weeks after beating Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 makes me think it was a shocking display from the players other than him getting his tactics etc horribly wrong.
I know he said his mistakes in the past has been he’s continued to attack when losing but cmon.
That sounds very much like shooting yourself in the foot. 🤣
Smartie
19-05-2022, 10:29 AM
That's true but I don't think Ross was the main problem. I think the way the club is run these days is the more alarming factor. Expecting Maloney to turn things around was a reckless move and we've now replaced him with somebody who, on paper, doesn't come with much more than Ross brought to the table.
After the summer transfer window, with Magennis and Doidge out long term and Porto loving the odd suspension, it didn't really matter who the manager was - we were in big trouble with the players we regularly had available.
It was to Ross' detriment that we (the fans) had been antagonised by a few bad results in significant games over the previous couple of seasons. It meant he didn't have the credit in the bank to tough out a bad run that he really ought to have had.
The Tubs
19-05-2022, 10:35 AM
That's true but I don't think Ross was the main problem. I think the way the club is run these days is the more alarming factor. Expecting Maloney to turn things around was a reckless move and we've now replaced him with somebody who, on paper, doesn't come with much more than Ross brought to the table.
I suppose this is the board's thinking. If he can achieve similar results to Ross while playing better football, everyone will be more tolerant of him than Ross. I think the big challenge will be keeping making the progress that we're used to in cups. Lennon has been the only semi-letdown over the past 8 years or so.
LaMotta
19-05-2022, 10:37 AM
After the summer transfer window, with Magennis and Doidge out long term and Porto loving the odd suspension, it didn't really matter who the manager was - we were in big trouble with the players we regularly had available.
It was to Ross' detriment that we (the fans) had been antagonised by a few bad results in significant games over the previous couple of seasons. It meant he didn't have the credit in the bank to tough out a bad run that he really ought to have had.
Good points. Ross was actually unbelievably close to significant and unprecedented sucess as a manager of Hibs (over the last 70 years at least). A bit more luck and maybe some different/better decision making from him and we'd be building a statue of him rather than talking about whether he deserved more time.
bigwheel
19-05-2022, 10:42 AM
After the summer transfer window, with Magennis and Doidge out long term and Porto loving the odd suspension, it didn't really matter who the manager was - we were in big trouble with the players we regularly had available.
It was to Ross' detriment that we (the fans) had been antagonised by a few bad results in significant games over the previous couple of seasons. It meant he didn't have the credit in the bank to tough out a bad run that he really ought to have had.
Important key points in this post - great summary of key elements which have impacted us across this season
Greenworld
19-05-2022, 10:46 AM
I wonder if LJ has heard that a large number of fans don't want him and has had second thoughts ?
Imagine walking into a job where your ripped apart before even accepting it.
It is a mind-boggling scenario only in [emoji460]️.
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Hibby Kay-Yay
19-05-2022, 10:50 AM
I wonder if LJ has heard that a large number of fans don't want him and has had second thoughts ?
Imagine walking into a job where your ripped apart before even accepting it.
It is a mind-boggling scenario only in [emoji460]️.
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He could go from zero to hero though!
Since452
19-05-2022, 10:51 AM
You have no idea if that is true. The period of league form before Ross got sacked was worse than any period of similar length under Maloney and Ross had a peak Boyle at his disposal.
It's all subjective though. Ross also had injuries/suspensions, a covid outbreak decimating the squad then fixture congestion as a result. Still managed to get us to a cup final.
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 10:54 AM
It's all subjective though. Ross also had injuries/suspensions, a covid outbreak decimating the squad then fixture congestion as a result. Still managed to get us to a cup final.
Which is exactly the point I was making in my post that you’ve replied to, nobody knows if Ross would have fared any better or worse than Maloney.
Cat Stanton
19-05-2022, 10:59 AM
I wonder if LJ has heard that a large number of fans don't want him and has had second thoughts ?
Imagine walking into a job where your ripped apart before even accepting it.
It is a mind-boggling scenario only in [emoji460]️.
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Social media isn't a representative sample - far from it. Who knows what the majority of fans think?
Since452
19-05-2022, 11:01 AM
Which is exactly the point I was making in my post that you’ve replied to, nobody knows if Ross would have fared any better or worse than Maloney.
We will never know obviously but going on his past record with us i'd have been surprised if he had fared worse than Maloney. Especially with the winter transfer window looming. Anyway it's over to Lee now to move us forward.
Sergio sledge
19-05-2022, 11:04 AM
I know managers need to take some responsibility but Sunderland losing 6-0 to Sunderland only a couple of weeks after beating Sheffield Wednesday 5-0 makes me think it was a shocking display from the players other than him getting his tactics etc horribly wrong.
I know he said his mistakes in the past has been he’s continued to attack when losing but cmon.
He was averaging 1.9 points per game in the league this season with Sunderland before his sacking, scoring 1.83 goals per game. If he manages to achieve the same points per game average next season with us then we'll be sitting on a 70 point season having scored 69 goals. That would be a brilliant season for us.
Alex Neil has averaged slightly more points per game (2ppg) but with less wins, less losses and more draws and less goals but has them in the playoff final.
It sounds like it'll be a bit of a roller coaster with LJ as manager unless he has learnt from his experience at Sunderland. Sounds similar to how we were under Mowbray to be honest, lots of wins, lots of goals, not so many draws and throw in a few chastening defeats.
Smartie
19-05-2022, 11:07 AM
He was averaging 1.9 points per game in the league this season with Sunderland before his sacking, scoring 1.83 goals per game. If he manages to achieve the same points per game average next season with us then we'll be sitting on a 70 point season having scored 69 goals. That would be a brilliant season for us.
Alex Neil has averaged slightly more points per game (2ppg) but with less wins, less losses and more draws and less goals but has them in the playoff final.
It sounds like it'll be a bit of a roller coaster with LJ as manager unless he has learnt from his experience at Sunderland. Sounds similar to how we were under Mowbray to be honest, lots of wins, lots of goals, not so many draws and throw in a few chastening defeats.
That's the way I see it, and that's why I'm quite happy with the idea of LJ as manager tbh.
overdrive
19-05-2022, 11:13 AM
I wonder if LJ has heard that a large number of fans don't want him and has had second thoughts ?
Imagine walking into a job where your ripped apart before even accepting it.
It is a mind-boggling scenario only in [emoji460]️.
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Imagine Brian McLauchlin's questions at the press conference when LJ is announced.
"So, Lee, a section of the Hibs support seems to not want you, partly because you are a more low key appointment compared to other candidates and dislike your and Jamie's Hearts history. Between that and the club's record of sacking managers, is this a poisoned chalice for you?"
Smartie
19-05-2022, 11:18 AM
Imagine Brian McLauchlin's questions at the press conference when LJ is announced.
"So, Lee, a section of the Hibs support seems to not want you, partly because you are a more low key appointment compared to other candidates and dislike your and Jamie's Hearts history. Between that and the club's record of sacking managers, is this a poisoned chalice for you?"
I think that would be a perfectly reasonable question.
It would give Johnson an immediate chance to directly address some of the concerns some fans have.
Being manager of Hibs isn't a cushy number. He'll need to deal with naughty journos and demanding (occasionally unreasonable) fans. As a result he's going to need to communicate well - something I think he's pretty good at.
That's the sort of question that is water off a duck's back on day one, but might get a prickly response from a manager under pressure (Maloney got noticeably more twitchy towards the end).
Since452
19-05-2022, 11:24 AM
If Johnson wins games of football the negative noise will fade away. I think he will.
Greenworld
19-05-2022, 11:29 AM
Social media isn't a representative sample - far from it. Who knows what the majority of fans think?I've not read many "this is so exciting what a great appointment" comments.
My personal opinion was we should have gone for Malky M
But we shall see when it is announced.
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GreenPJ
19-05-2022, 11:42 AM
I think that would be a perfectly reasonable question.
It would give Johnson an immediate chance to directly address some of the concerns some fans have.
Being manager of Hibs isn't a cushy number. He'll need to deal with naughty journos and demanding (occasionally unreasonable) fans. As a result he's going to need to communicate well - something I think he's pretty good at.
That's the sort of question that is water off a duck's back on day one, but might get a prickly response from a manager under pressure (Maloney got noticeably more twitchy towards the end).
How does he exactly address the fact that he played (albeit very few) games for Hearts? I played for them but they were not and are not my boyhood team? Its a matter of fact that he played a few games for them, its the media that made him a "Hearts Star". Its also a matter of fact that he lost some games heavily (tell me a manager that hasn't). Its a matter of fact that he has won at least one trophy in his managerial career (something lots of managers have never done). Its a matter of fact that he has been sacked from all his previous jobs (bar one?) although tell me a manager who hasn't (other than Pep).
He can tell us about his footballing philosophy and he has had some initial discussions with senior players/interim management at the club to understand where the immediate needs are and that will be his priority along with the recruitment team to get those areas addressed asap and he believes the support and structure is there to do that but as you say they are ultimately soundbites that every new manager at every club will say.
For those who are anti his appointment I don't think there is anything he can say or do at the first few press conferences that will change people's mind, that will only come with wins and performances.
Dublin07
19-05-2022, 11:44 AM
Reminds me of when Mowbray was appointed in the main fans were disappointed. We were low as a fan base but there were less social media drama queens about then. His team played good football from day one day we took to him and his team. That team suffered a lot of heavy defeats but we forgave them and we remember the team fondly. Recruitment is key for whatever manager comes in as this current team does not have a bond with the fans. A new spine to the team and attacking football and we will get behind the new man.
heretoday
19-05-2022, 11:46 AM
This appointment is a downer.
Hibernia&Alba
19-05-2022, 11:47 AM
I've not read many "this is so exciting what a great appointment" comments.
My personal opinion was we should have gone for Malky M
But we shall see when it is announced.
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I would have gone for McInnes.
Bristolhibby
19-05-2022, 11:54 AM
I’ll be backing him with my full support.
Once he’s in place he’s our manager, he has to manage the team to get results that we all crave.
J
Hibernia&Alba
19-05-2022, 11:56 AM
I’ll be backing him with my full support.
Once he’s in place he’s our manager, he has to manage the team to get results that we all crave.
J
Absolutely. We can't keep on changing the manager so regularly; we need someone to stick around and deliver sustainable progress. Let's hope we get it right this time.
silverhibee
19-05-2022, 11:56 AM
This appointment is a downer.
What appointment, must have missed it.
keep the faith
19-05-2022, 11:58 AM
Jack Ross was certainly not crap. We could have avoided all this mess by sticking with him. I'm hard pressed to see how Johnson is an improvement, but hope to be proved wrong.
A big part of the mess we find ourselves in is his poor signings and set up. Long deals for JDH and Campbell who offer as little as they do has absolutely hamstrung our options and style this season and they will prove very difficult to move on. JR was saved by Boyler which made his
post sacking public pleas to let Boyle move on even more galling.
We bought badly in Jan but the engine room and creativity in the centre of the park was already long term broken.
BegbieHSC
19-05-2022, 11:58 AM
If we’re gonna announce a pish appointment, we may as well do it now while we’re all in high spirits laughing at Huns.
Smartie
19-05-2022, 11:58 AM
What appointment, must have missed it.
It is a bit unusual for it to be as strongly rumoured as it has for so long to still be waiting for for confirmation.
Waiting for journos to get back from Seville?
Bushwoof
19-05-2022, 11:59 AM
I doubt Lee Johnson would have been at the top of anyone's wish list.
But, and it's an important but, if his team plays the sort of attacking football that he's supposed to specialise in, then it's the appointment we needed. As the song goes, we need excitement and we need it bad. I'd welcome a series of high scoring games, even if we lost half of them.
So here's hoping he can get the fans on the edges of their seats, and generate some more enthusiasm from us on the back of that. There's nothing more dispiriting than reading all the comments on here from people who've decided to start off with a negative attitude - there's more than enough of that to go around already.
Lets think positive, get behind Lee, and the team, and make ER an enjoyable place to go once more.
BegbieHSC
19-05-2022, 12:01 PM
And it’s official. 4 year deal ffs
SHODAN
19-05-2022, 12:03 PM
Right, that's it done. All support behind the new manager.
The Harp Awakes
19-05-2022, 12:03 PM
And it’s official. 4 year deal ffs
4 years :rolleyes:
JXM73
19-05-2022, 12:03 PM
Can we close the thread now
All hope is lost
New page in history, lets get behind him.
Take yer pick but big boy pants time...
Johnny_Leith
19-05-2022, 12:03 PM
Announced. 4 year deal.
The 40-year-old has signed a four-year deal at Easter Road and will be joined by his own coaching staff who will be announced in due course. David Gray will also continue as First Team Coach.
After making over 450 appearances in England and Scotland as a player, Johnson made an early step into management being appointed by Oldham Athletic in League One at the age of just 31, which made him the youngest manager in the EFL (English Football League).
He guided the Latics to safety and led them to their best league finish in five years – alongside introducing a high-quality style of football.
Johnson worked his way up the EFL and after a spell at Barnsley, he was appointed by his former club and English Championship side Bristol City.
Again, he steered the Robins away from the relegation zone in successive seasons whilst implementing a fresh approach and ethos around the Club.
The Robins continued to progress under his management as he turned them into Play-Off challengers and took them on a memorable EFL Cup journey. His Bristol City side saw off a number of Premier League outfits, including Jose Mourinho’s Manchester United, before narrowly losing in the semi-final to Manchester City, which led to Pep Guardiola hailing Johnson’s style of play.
In his last managerial position, Johnson helped Sunderland lift their first piece of silverware in 14 years winning the EFL Trophy at Wembley Stadium and reaching the Play-Offs. He departed the Black Cats in January 2022 sat in 3rd place in League One.
Hibernian FC’s Executive Chairman, Ronald J Gordon, commented: “We know that this appointment is vital for the Football Club, so we really took our time to make sure we got the right person as our new Manager.
“Throughout this process we have been very clear on the type of profile, the style of football, and the experience we want our new Manager to have, and that aligned approach enabled us to be incredibly thorough and vigorous during our search.
“There were a number of high-quality managers interested in the role, and we analysed them all thoroughly. The candidates were interviewed in depth by a panel of Directors before we unanimously came to the decision that Lee was the outstanding candidate and the perfect fit for us.
“Not only does Lee have great experience in management, but he also has knowledge of the Scottish and English game, will bring a definitive style of positive play to Hibs and has a proven record of success.
“We wanted a manager that would lead on recruitment and have a strong pool of knowledge in that area. He shares similar levels of ambitions for the Football Club and will instil a winning culture at Hibernian FC.
“We will support him in the transfer window, so he can put his own stamp on the squad as we look forward to, what will hopefully be a really successful 2022/23 campaign.
“We are all looking forward to working with him, and his staff, to bring sustained success to our fantastic football club."
Real Emerald
19-05-2022, 12:04 PM
First sign of trouble he’ll be hounded out. Very disappointing and won’t get fans back.
Scottie
19-05-2022, 12:06 PM
Can we close the thread now
All hope is lost
New page in history, lets get behind him.
Take yer pick but big boy pants time...
:agree: Welcome Lee and good luck we will all be behind you from the first whistle.
Hermit Crab
19-05-2022, 12:07 PM
And it’s official. 4 year deal ffs
Thats a lot of compensation to pay out after 6 months I tell you.
Tommy75
19-05-2022, 12:08 PM
First sign of trouble he’ll be hounded out. Very disappointing and won’t get fans back.
I don't get this. We'd hound any manager out at the first sign of trouble.
Springbank
19-05-2022, 12:09 PM
The key to next season will be the clearout of current contracted players & the money the board release for buying replacements in the transfer market
While we've all been reflecting on Jack Ross's time (and all the various opinions on that) there was more than a whiff of 2007 Collins-era behaviour* from the players under JR's last month, and the fact those players are still at Hibs should be a red flag for the new boss on Day One.
* by this I mean, look at last night - the rangers team we thumped 3-1 in November played every minute of the Europa League.
How can a team like ours dismantle Rangers in 30 rapidfire minutes, and then go on a losing streak at Ross County and Livi away, finishing games with 9 men, when there's a cup final literally a fortnight away??
Suggests to me there's some players who are not right in that dressing room, too willing to believe the hype, not willing enough to roll the sleeves up.
Major surgery would be accepted by all Hibs fans I think (though interested to hear if anyone thinks we are broadly ok - I certainly don't think our squad is)
Bristolhibby
19-05-2022, 12:12 PM
People need to wise up. We are Hibs not Real Madrid.
We can want all we want. Getting them in on an agreed contract is the real deal.
So much negativity. Last season is over, eyes front.
J
Real Emerald
19-05-2022, 12:13 PM
I don't get this. We'd hound any manager out at the first sign of trouble.
It’s not a popular appointment and will be given no leeway others may have got.
marinello59
19-05-2022, 12:15 PM
People need to wise up. We are Hibs not Real Madrid.
We can want all we want. Getting them in on an agreed contract is the real deal.
So much negativity. Last season is over, eyes front.
J
Exactly. Time to stop self indulgently picking over the scabs of last season and get ready for the adventure ahead of us :thumbsup:
Exactly. Time to stop self indulgently picking over the scabs of last season and get ready for the adventure ahead of us :thumbsup:
Far too many too happy to be negative and angry for that, sad times we live in can’t wait for it to back fire and LJ has us firing on all cylinders should be alright for cup final tickets next time round
Smartie
19-05-2022, 12:19 PM
The key to next season will be the clearout of current contracted players & the money the board release for buying replacements in the transfer market
While we've all been reflecting on Jack Ross's time (and all the various opinions on that) there was more than a whiff of 2007 Collins-era behaviour* from the players under JR's last month, and the fact those players are still at Hibs should be a red flag for the new boss on Day One.
* by this I mean, look at last night - the rangers team we thumped 3-1 in November played every minute of the Europa League.
How can a team like ours dismantle Rangers in 30 rapidfire minutes, and then go on a losing streak at Ross County and Livi away, finishing games with 9 men, when there's a cup final literally a fortnight away??
Suggests to me there's some players who are not right in that dressing room, too willing to believe the hype, not willing enough to roll the sleeves up.
Major surgery would be accepted by all Hibs fans I think (though interested to hear if anyone thinks we are broadly ok - I certainly don't think our squad is)
Is this not a wee bit harsh? It was Paul McGinn and Paul Hanlon who were sent off for 2 yellow cards each that night, they're not players who come with a reputation for a lack of professionalism.
It was a minging performance, not disputing that, but it's another one that might have swung the other way had the much-loved Boyle not blootered a penalty over the bar.
My issue with people losing their cool that night was the way our owner lost the plot after the game.
Smartie
19-05-2022, 12:21 PM
Exactly. Time to stop self indulgently picking over the scabs of last season and get ready for the adventure ahead of us :thumbsup:
We've also got all of this done at the ideal time. Our new man can get his players in and get going asap. Last season was a disaster but it must be left where it is.
Onwards and upwards.
Dalianwanda
19-05-2022, 12:22 PM
Thats a lot of compensation to pay out after 6 months I tell you.
Or a good wedge from another club who want to take him off our hands if he does really well before his contracts up
Turkish Green
19-05-2022, 12:22 PM
If Johnson wins games of football the negative noise will fade away. I think he will.
Not with the current squad he wont. Will he be given time to develop his own team as RG is an impatient bar steward.
Bushwoof
19-05-2022, 12:23 PM
What benefit can there possibly be from starting off with the mindset of 'this is a gash appointment', when no-one really knows if he's going to be good or bad. I can't understand it.
At least there's a suggestion that he'll want us playing attractive football.
Come on folks, cheer up (it's a happy day football wise), get your ST renewed, and let's get ER rocking again.
Coco Bryce
19-05-2022, 12:24 PM
Social media isn't a representative sample - far from it. Who knows what the majority of fans think?
Hibs and all the players use Twitter and read it though. Unlike on here so they will see it.
BroxburnHibee
19-05-2022, 12:24 PM
First sign of trouble he’ll be hounded out. Very disappointing and won’t get fans back.
Yep the Jambo connection will be chucked at him every time
Lester B
19-05-2022, 12:26 PM
Thats a lot of compensation to pay out after 6 months I tell you.
Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty.
It's rare to find someone who is convinced the glass is cracked and has pish in it
Walter
19-05-2022, 12:45 PM
This appointment is a downer.
At least you'll be gone tomorrow
OldEast
19-05-2022, 12:54 PM
At least you'll be gone tomorrow
😂😂😂
Since452
19-05-2022, 12:56 PM
First sign of trouble he’ll be hounded out. Very disappointing and won’t get fans back.
Don't hound him out then.
easty
19-05-2022, 12:59 PM
Yep the Jambo connection will be chucked at him every time
4 games. He’s hardly a cardigan wearing, Rover driving, establishment club scarf twirling loony.
Turkish Green
19-05-2022, 01:01 PM
Slate clean from me.
WELCOME LEE TO HIBERNIAN FC
SRHibs
19-05-2022, 01:12 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
Not with the current squad he wont. Will he be given time to develop his own team as RG is an impatient bar steward.
Have you listen to his interview?
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
Sounded pretty sensible to me and certainly knows where he's going.
Greenworld
19-05-2022, 03:02 PM
Sounded pretty sensible to me and certainly knows where he's going.Yup very good interview looking forward to seeing who he brings in .
Like the comments about possession and the fact he is to head up recruitment
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Yup very good interview looking forward to seeing who he brings in .
Like the comments about possession and the fact he is to head up recruitment
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A Hi-Bee
19-05-2022, 03:24 PM
Yep the Jambo connection will be chucked at him every time
Right then where will be start, lets go back a wee bit, Gordon Smith, good one to start with, then Willie Hamilton, Peter Cormack, Eric Stevenson, Chris Shevlin, Alan Gordon, Gordon Marshall, Roy Barry, Jason Cummings, James Keatings, David Gray, just for starters, sure many more could be added, so him playing 4 games for the gunts hardly qualifies in the same league as those mentioned.
GGTTH
ancient hibee
19-05-2022, 03:31 PM
Right then where will be start, lets go back a wee bit, Gordon Smith, good one to start with, then Willie Hamilton, Peter Cormack, Eric Stevenson, Chris Shevlin, Alan Gordon, Gordon Marshall, Roy Barry, Jason Cummings, James Keatings, David Gray, just for starters, sure many more could be added, so him playing 4 games for the gunts hardly qualifies in the same league as those mentioned.
GGTTH
You could also add the often forgotten Willie McCartney. Set the foundations for our greatest ever team and died just before we won the league. Oh yes and also managed Hearts for 16 years,as did his dad,before coming to Easter Road.
Right then where will be start, lets go back a wee bit, Gordon Smith, good one to start with, then Willie Hamilton, Peter Cormack, Eric Stevenson, Chris Shevlin, Alan Gordon, Gordon Marshall, Roy Barry, Jason Cummings, James Keatings, David Gray, just for starters, sure many more could be added, so him playing 4 games for the gunts hardly qualifies in the same league as those mentioned.
GGTTH
Doig and Mitchell from the current squad also
Allant1981
19-05-2022, 05:06 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
He was absolutely fine in his interview with hibs tv, must be amazing being perfect
CallumLaidlaw
19-05-2022, 05:40 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
What absolute nonsense.
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hibee-boys
19-05-2022, 05:44 PM
Just watched the interview, very impressed. Came over as very assured, experienced, confident in his abilities, I’m on board Lee👍
sleeping giant
19-05-2022, 05:44 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
You've not actually listened to it have you?
Since452
19-05-2022, 05:48 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
Must have listened to a different interview.
Lancs Harp
19-05-2022, 05:50 PM
Well its done and dusted now. Lets get behind him and judge him on results and performances not preconceived perceptions.
Good luck Lee and welcome to the party.
h185forever
19-05-2022, 05:52 PM
We have LJ now, continued wailing and gnashing of teeth will achieve nothing, although that seems to be dying out in the main.
it could’ve been worse …the committee not exactly being “fitba folk”, allegedly, might have mixed their Johnsons’ up and we might have ended up with Boris today.
Lets get behind the guy and hope for a better season ahead and some much needed stability.
We also need to accept that with the hoped for reasonable change in playing squad he might need a bit of time to get it working how he wants. Time will tell.
GGTTH
blackpoolhibs
19-05-2022, 05:58 PM
Which is exactly the point I was making in my post that you’ve replied to, nobody knows if Ross would have fared any better or worse than Maloney.
He had the experience of working at St Mirren and Sunderland, he had the experience of working at us and having relative success with all three clubs.
We sacked him after his first real bad run of results, and replaced him with a complete novice, i'm convinced he would have done better than Maloney.
We need to stop paniking when we hit a bad run of form, especially when that manager has been succesfull before.
Although i can see it now, one defeat against the gimps and he will be slaughtered and hounded out the door, we never learn.
SRHibs
19-05-2022, 06:03 PM
What absolute nonsense.
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I wouldn't go that far. David Brent talks sense sometimes!
It wasn't really referencing his Hibs interview, which wasn't bad, but stuff he's said and done historically.
You sure are a sensitive bunch though.
CockneyRebel
19-05-2022, 06:05 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
He talks more sense than you do. Listen to the interview (again?) and tell us where he is rambling. I heard structure in all he said. He may not be the Messiah, he may not be the answer to all our prayers, but don't make stuff up.
Just read what you posted while I typed the above reply. You should have made it clearer what you were referring to and given some examples.
SRHibs
19-05-2022, 06:09 PM
He talks more sense than you do. Listen to the interview (again?) and tell us where he is rambling. I heard structure in all he said. He may not be the Messiah, he may not be the answer to all our prayers, but don't make stuff up.
You know nothing about me.
Like I just said it wasn't referencing the interview (in which he definitely does still ramble), just a general observation based on what I'd seen of him. It's hardly the biggest insult, and I still quite like the guy and obviously wish him well.
Sure if I made the comment yesterday the reaction here would've been entirely different.
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 06:26 PM
He had the experience of working at St Mirren and Sunderland, he had the experience of working at us and having relative success with all three clubs.
We sacked him after his first real bad run of results, and replaced him with a complete novice, i'm convinced he would have done better than Maloney.
We need to stop paniking when we hit a bad run of form, especially when that manager has been succesfull before.
Although i can see it now, one defeat against the gimps and he will be slaughtered and hounded out the door, we never learn.
That’s lovely, doesn’t mean you know for certainty that he’d have turned it around.
jacomo
19-05-2022, 06:29 PM
That’s lovely, doesn’t mean you know for certainty that he’d have turned it around.
Stop it now.
All the evidence suggests Jack would have done better than Maloney. It’s ok to admit the club got that one wrong… Ron does.
blackpoolhibs
19-05-2022, 06:32 PM
That’s lovely, doesn’t mean you know for certainty that he’d have turned it around.
No manager loses every game, not even Maloney, to suggest any manager who goes on a bad run of form wont win again is ridiculous, or his name is Terry Butcher.
Since90+2
19-05-2022, 06:34 PM
You'd have to be a bit of an idiot to not realise Ross would have done better than Maloney.
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 06:36 PM
No manager loses every game, not even Maloney, to suggest any manager who goes on a bad run of form wont win again is ridiculous, or his name is Terry Butcher.
You’ll have to point to where I suggested that. I simply said nobody knows for certain that Ross would have done better than Maloney. Feel free to prove how anyone would be able to know for certain.
CapitalGreen
19-05-2022, 06:37 PM
Stop it now.
All the evidence suggests Jack would have done better than Maloney. It’s ok to admit the club got that one wrong… Ron does.
I have no problem admitting the club got it wrong and they compounded it by appointing Maloney. Doesn’t mean anyone knows for certain that Ross would have done better.
blackpoolhibs
19-05-2022, 06:38 PM
You’ll have to point to where I suggested that. I simply said nobody knows for certain that Ross would have done better than Maloney. Feel free to prove how anyone would be able to know for certain.
Dont be daft.
Allant1981
19-05-2022, 06:42 PM
I wouldn't go that far. David Brent talks sense sometimes!
It wasn't really referencing his Hibs interview, which wasn't bad, but stuff he's said and done historically.
You sure are a sensitive bunch though.
Sensitive or youre talking rubbish? Ill go with the latter
Paul1642
19-05-2022, 06:51 PM
I have no problem admitting the club got it wrong and they compounded it by appointing Maloney. Doesn’t mean anyone knows for certain that Ross would have done better.
Nobody knows for certain that Craig Levein wouldn’t have won the the Europa league this season if hearts hadn’t sacked him when they did.
It’s clear as day that Ross wouldn’t have done as badly as Maloney did.
Hibbyradge
19-05-2022, 07:01 PM
Can we put this thread in the vault, please. :wink:
Sheffhibee
19-05-2022, 07:07 PM
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
What utter rubbish, don't know what interview you watched because his interview was spot on!!!
Tommy75
19-05-2022, 07:07 PM
It’s not a popular appointment and will be given no leeway others may have got.
Who would have been given leeway? Can you give any examples (from Hibs) when a manager has hit a bad patch and the fans have stuck with them?
Radium
19-05-2022, 07:10 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-fans-have-say-on-decision-to-go-for-lee-johnson-over-jon-dahl-tomasson-3699984
Hadn’t realised that the Evening News was back on script kicking Hibs before the announcement was made
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SRHibs
19-05-2022, 07:28 PM
What utter rubbish, don't know what interview you watched because his interview was spot on!!!
You are incapable of reading.
Silky
19-05-2022, 07:38 PM
Who would have been given leeway? Can you give any examples (from Hibs) when a manager has hit a bad patch and the fans have stuck with them?
Pretty much Alex Miller's whole reign was a bad patch! :greengrin
Sure it will be an interesting appointment. Boy is like the David Brent of football. Starts a sentence and just talks without any idea as to where it's going.
What are your three best examples of this behaviour?
Smartie
20-05-2022, 08:26 AM
What are your three best examples of this behaviour?
It was said quite a lot by Sunderland fans and unfortunately for Johnson it seems to have stuck.
I find it a bit unfair tbh and don’t really see it.
Although we’ll see what we think of his patter when we’re rationalising our first heavy defeat under him.
What I found bit weird yesterday was that he spoke about “the business” and referred to FTSE companies and the like. It sounded a bit weird for a football manager to be coming out with stuff like that, never really heard it before.
Jones28
20-05-2022, 08:31 AM
What are your three best examples of this behaviour?
It was a comment made by a Sunderland fan, this person thought it sounded clever so decided it would something they'd make a point of.
Honestly I cannot remember a manager come under so much scrutiny for the way they talk before, it's like spoilt bairns not getting their way so they decide to invent reasons to not like LJ.
It was a comment made by a Sunderland fan, this person thought it sounded clever so decided it would something they'd make a point of.
Honestly I cannot remember a manager come under so much scrutiny for the way they talk before, it's like spoilt bairns not getting their way so they decide to invent reasons to not like LJ.
OK, I'll give the guy one. I'll wait for the next two, and this should be easy seeing as Johnson does it all the time.
Scorrie
20-05-2022, 08:40 AM
I’ve just seen LJ interview to be honest, I like what he had to say and how he came across. Has to be given a chance - certainly beyond the League Cup group stages!
CockneyRebel
20-05-2022, 09:36 AM
You know nothing about me.
Like I just said it wasn't referencing the interview (in which he definitely does still ramble), just a general observation based on what I'd seen of him. It's hardly the biggest insult, and I still quite like the guy and obviously wish him well.
Sure if I made the comment yesterday the reaction here would've been entirely different.
Read my reply (post 5460).
Brightside
20-05-2022, 09:53 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-fans-have-say-on-decision-to-go-for-lee-johnson-over-jon-dahl-tomasson-3699984
Hadn’t realised that the Evening News was back on script kicking Hibs before the announcement was made
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Tbf they are reporting what hibs fans were saying. It’s pish journalism but it’s standard now.
CapitalGreen
20-05-2022, 09:57 AM
Tbf they are reporting what hibs fans were saying. It’s pish journalism but it’s standard now.
That’s true but they’ve only selected the negative comments to include in the headline when there were positive reactions too.
Radium
20-05-2022, 09:59 AM
Tbf they are reporting what hibs fans were saying. It’s pish journalism but it’s standard now.
They lost their article links on this site because of continued negativity towards Hibs and seem to be happy to continue to peddle negativity.
Remember them holing HSL below the waterline by choosing which fans comments to use.
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GloryGlory
20-05-2022, 10:26 AM
Tbf they are reporting what SOME hibs fans were saying. It’s pish journalism but it’s standard now.
Fixed that for you. :greengrin
JeMeSouviens
20-05-2022, 10:30 AM
It was said quite a lot by Sunderland fans and unfortunately for Johnson it seems to have stuck.
I find it a bit unfair tbh and don’t really see it.
Although we’ll see what we think of his patter when we’re rationalising our first heavy defeat under him.
What I found bit weird yesterday was that he spoke about “the business” and referred to FTSE companies and the like. It sounded a bit weird for a football manager to be coming out with stuff like that, never really heard it before.
He unfortunately has a similar voice. I think if you actually listen to what he says it's ok.
Then again, "talk is cheap". Duff Jimmy sounded good until he put a team on the park. :rolleyes:
Let's just see how he gets on. :dunno:
Mikey
20-05-2022, 10:33 AM
They lost their article links on this site because of continued negativity towards Hibs and seem to be happy to continue to peddle negativity.
Remember them holing HSL below the waterline by choosing which fans comments to use.
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It was the article about the guy in the monkey suit on Leith Walk on the day that HSL was launched that did it.
SRHibs
20-05-2022, 10:55 PM
It was a comment made by a Sunderland fan, this person thought it sounded clever so decided it would something they'd make a point of.
Honestly I cannot remember a manager come under so much scrutiny for the way they talk before, it's like spoilt bairns not getting their way so they decide to invent reasons to not like LJ.
"This person" just thought it was a funny observation.
FitbaFolkKen
20-05-2022, 11:06 PM
If this video isn't the epitome of David Brent..... his Hibs interviews have been fine and I hope he succeeds but I wasn't impressed watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw04fIvfdQQ
Callum_62
20-05-2022, 11:31 PM
If this video isn't the epitome of David Brent..... his Hibs interviews have been fine and I hope he succeeds but I wasn't impressed watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw04fIvfdQQI've seen one or 2 say similar but I don't see it at all
Looks like a coach doing his job to me
What part is the epitome of David Brent?
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Mcbizz1998
20-05-2022, 11:34 PM
I've seen one or 2 say similar but I don't see it at all
Looks like a coach doing his job to me
What part is the epitome of David Brent?
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Yeah, keep hearing the David Brent thing but I’m not getting it either.
cameronw-hfc
20-05-2022, 11:43 PM
If this video isn't the epitome of David Brent..... his Hibs interviews have been fine and I hope he succeeds but I wasn't impressed watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw04fIvfdQQ
As someone doing their coaching badges, I actually really enjoyed it. Plenty of good advice and I thought he was communicating well with the players and letting them know that they've done well. Each to their own I guess but just because he's overly enthusiastic, that doesn't necessarily mean he's bad at it.
The "use different parts of the foot" is stupidly basic but surprisingly good advice. You see players at higher levels with nice flicks round the corner, quick passing and often at lower levels the players try to set themselves before playing a pass, slowing the play down. Getting use to flicks round the corner, first time outside of the foot passes etc is all something even professionals need to keep training.
Your team will play how they train, and he seems to enjoy fast paced technical drills, and that bodes very well for the style of play questions etc.
FitbaFolkKen
21-05-2022, 12:04 AM
I've seen one or 2 say similar but I don't see it at all
Looks like a coach doing his job to me
What part is the epitome of David Brent?
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It jumped out at me immediately, I’m sure I posted on this the first time I saw it. If you don’t see it fair enough, I’m not going to try and convince folk otherwise as I want him to succeed.
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Libby Hibby
21-05-2022, 06:26 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-fans-have-say-on-decision-to-go-for-lee-johnson-over-jon-dahl-tomasson-3699984
Hadn’t realised that the Evening News was back on script kicking Hibs before the announcement was made
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The writer, Philip Johnson is a class A jambo welt. He has nothing good to say about Hibs ever.
jgl07
22-05-2022, 09:33 PM
My only time watch a Lee Johnson team was the two legs of the League Cup semi-final against Manchester City in 2018. They looked a very good team and restricted Guardiola’s team to a narrow home 2-1 home win thanks to an injury time Sergio Agüero winner.
If Johnson can get Hibs playing the way that Bristol City played then, I will be more than happy.
Alan62
22-05-2022, 09:40 PM
As someone doing their coaching badges, I actually really enjoyed it. Plenty of good advice and I thought he was communicating well with the players and letting them know that they've done well. Each to their own I guess but just because he's overly enthusiastic, that doesn't necessarily mean he's bad at it.
The "use different parts of the foot" is stupidly basic but surprisingly good advice. You see players at higher levels with nice flicks round the corner, quick passing and often at lower levels the players try to set themselves before playing a pass, slowing the play down. Getting use to flicks round the corner, first time outside of the foot passes etc is all something even professionals need to keep training.
Your team will play how they train, and he seems to enjoy fast paced technical drills, and that bodes very well for the style of play questions etc.
Many years ago I had a chat with Craig Brown about coaching. We talked about Peter Marinello who was a superstar in his day. Craig worked with him towards the end of his career at Motherwell and pinpointed a simple technique which allowed Marinello to set himself up for the cross. If he’d had that in his armoury earlier in his career, he would have been a much more successful player.
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JimBHibees
23-05-2022, 06:41 AM
If this video isn't the epitome of David Brent..... his Hibs interviews have been fine and I hope he succeeds but I wasn't impressed watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw04fIvfdQQ
Personally think that is an incredibly brave thing to do not everyone would do it. His communication is very good to what I can see.
Northernhibee
23-05-2022, 06:46 AM
Yeah, keep hearing the David Brent thing but I’m not getting it either.
I think it’s when he introduced himself to the first team squad by fusing Flashdance with some MC Hammer ****.
Hiber-nation
23-05-2022, 07:00 AM
Many years ago I had a chat with Craig Brown about coaching. We talked about Peter Marinello who was a superstar in his day. Craig worked with him towards the end of his career at Motherwell and pinpointed a simple technique which allowed Marinello to set himself up for the cross. If he’d had that in his armoury earlier in his career, he would have been a much more successful player.
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Yeah I remember being told this by a former Hearts colleague of Peter's, might have been Chris Robertson. "All these years and Peter didn't know how to cross a ball properly".
SHODAN
23-05-2022, 07:11 AM
Manager likes telling jokes occasionally
"GUYS HE'S BASICALLY DAVID BRENT"
Mr. Wonderful
23-05-2022, 07:18 AM
Manager likes telling jokes occasionally
"GUYS HE'S BASICALLY DAVID BRENT"
That video in Marbella is peak Brent. Anyone who says otherwise didn't get the point of the character imo
Clarence
23-05-2022, 07:19 AM
Don’t know if I see the Brent comparison. I suppose he’s just creating an atmosphere where he’s a friend first and a boss second. Probably an entertainer third.
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