Next Hibs Manager

[OldEast]

I'm bored. Anyone else bored of this new manager search already?

Yea come on Hibs, give us a name!

[Stuart93]

I'm bored. Anyone else bored of this new manager search already?

Hopefully won’t be this bored when the new guys appointed.

Hopefully he’s a bit more exciting than our last two managers.

[CapitalGreen]

Hopefully won’t be this bored when the new guys appointed.

Hopefully he’s a bit more exciting than our last two managers.

Last 3 managers 😩

[WhileTheChief..]

I’ll refer you to my reply to a previous poster and also provide you with a dictionary definition - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seem



People are giving off that impression without saying it explicitly.

Why are you taking such umbrage at my post, do you think I’m referring to you?


This you? 👇


Fans were nearly overwhelmingly supportive of the appointment of Butcher to the extent that there would have been outrage among large numbers of the support if we had appointed someone else.

You quoted me twice in the previous page so yeah, I thought you were referring to me!!

I didn’t click the link. Dictionary definition of what?

[OldEast]

Hopefully won’t be this bored when the new guys appointed.

Hopefully he’s a bit more exciting than our last two managers.

Last three really, Maloney, Ross, Hecky just standing staring. Certainly don't want a screamer like Martindale but a bit of life on the touchline would be a nice change.

[CapitalGreen]

You quoted me twice in the previous page so yeah, I thought you were referring to me!!

I didn’t click the link. Dictionary definition of what?

Jesus wept 🤦🏻

[WhileTheChief..]

Huh?

[GreenCastle]

Assume they will announce before the ST deadline to try increase sales ?

Maybe 15th, 16th or 17th ? Final game is 15th - reckon the new manager will be unveiled then?

[CapitalGreen]

Assume they will announce before the ST deadline to trynincreaee sales ?

Maybe 15th, 16th or 17th ? Final game is 15th - reckon the new manager will be unveiled then?

A lot of club staff will be away on holiday from May 23rd so I imagine it will be announced before then.

[Stuart93]

Last three really, Maloney, Ross, Hecky just standing staring. Certainly don't want a screamer like Martindale but a bit of life on the touchline would be a nice change.

Even interviews for me. Quite enjoyed watching lennons cause you didn’t know what you were getting.

I got quite bored of JR and SM’s cause they were mainly made up of the old tired football cliches. Could be a sign of the modern manager/head coach. Media trained into becoming a plank of wood.

[on-the-level]

Assume they will announce before the ST deadline to trynincreaee sales ?

Maybe 15th, 16th or 17th ? Final game is 15th - reckon the new manager will be unveiled then?
Too late imo
New manager needs these last 2 or 3 games to work out what he needs and who he needs to lose and who to get in. We need an appointment by early next week or the new guy will be left in a hole from the start. I appreciate the slow process to Try and get the right person but that desition needs taken NOW

[Lago]

Nobody is suggesting that anymore. The Keane chat is dead.
Good

[JimBHibees]

Too late imo
New manager needs these last 2 or 3 games to work out what he needs and who he needs to lose and who to get in. We need an appointment by early next week or the new guy will be left in a hole from the start. I appreciate the slow process to Try and get the right person but that desition needs taken NOW

You would assume whoever is being interviewed will be watching these games plus looking at some of our earlier games to get a handle on the players we have.

[WhileTheChief..]

Even interviews for me. Quite enjoyed watching lennons cause you didn’t know what you were getting.

I got quite bored of JR and SM’s cause they were mainly made up of the old tired football cliches. Could be a sign of the modern manager/head coach. Media trained into becoming a plank of wood.

I know some folk dismiss interviews, but I think they're important.

The manager is also our spokesperson. He's the connection between the club and fans so it's important to hear his take on things.

With Lennon, generally, his view on the games was the same as most of ours, whereas listening to some managers after a game you're left thinking wtf are you going on about.

[Since452]

You would assume whoever is being interviewed will be watching these games plus looking at some of our earlier games to get a handle on the players we have.

Exactly this. Whoever is being interviewed will have done their research.

[ahibby]

You would assume whoever is being interviewed will be watching these games plus looking at some of our earlier games to get a handle on the players we have.

I agree, I doubt they will be wearing a disguise sitting in the stand though, so probably watching video. The problem is that you don't get to watch movement of the ball I'd imagine, which has an importance too. However, perhaps being old tooths in the game they can perhaps work that out. Some might be overtly in the stand so and if so I'm sure will be spotted by some, not me though because I don't notice those kind of things, too busy eyes peeled to the front.

[SlickShoes]

I know some folk dismiss interviews, but I think they're important.

The manager is also our spokesperson. He's the connection between the club and fans so it's important to hear his take on things.

With Lennon, generally, his view on the games was the same as most of ours, whereas listening to some managers after a game you're left thinking wtf are you going on about.

What about when he just stopped doing them because he couldn't be bothered?

[Since452]

I know some folk dismiss interviews, but I think they're important.

The manager is also our spokesperson. He's the connection between the club and fans so it's important to hear his take on things.

With Lennon, generally, his view on the games was the same as most of ours, whereas listening to some managers after a game you're left thinking wtf are you going on about.

I agree with that. It's an important part of it. Lennon and Ross were both very good at this. Both were extremely comfortable in front of the camera in general. Maloney always seemed very nervous to me. It's not the be all and end all but it did make me wonder if he could command a dressing room.

[on-the-level]

You would assume whoever is being interviewed will be watching these games plus looking at some of our earlier games to get a handle on the players we have.

What makes you ASSUME?

[bingo70]

What about when he just stopped doing them because he couldn't be bothered?

That was then reflected in the support he was getting from our fans.

I didn’t like Lennon before he was appointed, really liked him as our manager for the most part even though in the first division we had loads of poor results and drew far too many games. I looked past that to an extent as I really liked him as a personality and enjoyed listening to him.

As soon as he started all that nonsense in the media I lost interest in him as it was clear he wanted away for a good period before he left. By the end I was wanting him sacked.

Wouldn’t want him back now either.

[on-the-level]

Exactly this. Whoever is being interviewed will have done their research.

I suppose you ASSUME SDG is setting the team like the new manager would want as well?

[GreenCastle]

When Bielsa got the Leeds job he watched every game (51 games) from previous season to understand what was needed for the team moving forward.

If Hibs aren’t asking about current team or the manager is clueless to what is needed then both aren’t doing their job.

[Since452]

I suppose you ASSUME SDG is setting the team like the new manager would want as well?

No, you are assuming that. Would you turn up at a job interview without trying to find out everything you could about it? It's stupidity if they haven't.

[Northernhibee]

I suppose you ASSUME SDG is setting the team like the new manager would want as well?

I assume you need a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to switch itself on and off as it pleases.

[Dalianwanda]

I suppose you ASSUME SDG is setting the team like the new manager would want as well?

Why do you keep writing assume in capitals? Generally before an interview people do a bit of homework on the company. I’m not sure what’s being said is that hard to believe?

[ahibby]

Would you turn up at a job interview without trying to find out everything you could about it? It's stupidity if they haven't.

I doubt they'd be successful in an interview if they hadn't, you are right.

[JimBHibees]

What makes you ASSUME?

Because like any job if you were keen to get it you would do the necessary leg work to give a good impression at interview. Think it would be negligent not to do it. It's what I would be doing if I was going for it.

[Hibernian Verse]

I assume you need a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to switch itself on and off as it pleases.

I assume he's drunk the spirit out his level

[JimBHibees]

I agree, I doubt they will be wearing a disguise sitting in the stand though, so probably watching video. The problem is that you don't get to watch movement of the ball I'd imagine, which has an importance too. However, perhaps being old tooths in the game they can perhaps work that out. Some might be overtly in the stand so and if so I'm sure will be spotted by some, not me though because I don't notice those kind of things, too busy eyes peeled to the front.

More than likely online or club give access to hibs tv.

[on-the-level]

I assume you need a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to switch itself on and off as it pleases.

🤣

[JimBHibees]

I suppose you ASSUME SDG is setting the team like the new manager would want as well?

He wont know who it is though so how would he know how he wants to play. ASSUME SDG would play the team how he wants to :greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

What about when he just stopped doing them because he couldn't be bothered?

What about it?

[JimBHibees]

The article didn't tell us anything new. It was a plea for Hibs fans to get off Ian's back, nothing more.

This isn't going to end well.

I'll bet that when the new man is announced, the reception for him is going to be flat, similar to when Maloney got the gig.

We're going to be left scratching our heads going wtf again.

That's the spirit.

[gbhibby]

Never Assume anything at it can make an ASS of U & ME.

[Mr. Wonderful]

The man with the magic hat 100% in the reckoning

[Sioux]

Why do you keep writing assume in capitals? Generally before an interview people do a bit of homework on the company. I’m not sure what’s being said is that hard to believe?

I think he's getting at the difference between ASSUME and PRESUME. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit.

[sleeping giant]

The man with the magic hat 100% in the reckoning

Oh Warbuton is barry he plays a barry harp.

[Greencore]

Oh Warbuton is barry he plays a barry harp.

😂

[Since452]

The man with the magic hat 100% in the reckoning

The annoying thing is I think he'd be a cracking appointment but we've relentlessly ridiculed him for six years so just can't see it.

[bingo70]

The man with the magic hat 100% in the reckoning

Would be controversial but very good appointment IMO.

His teams play good football and clever football guy.

[JohnM1875]

Would be controversial but very good appointment IMO.

His teams play good football and clever football guy.

Totally agree, be really happy if we managed to get him.

[snedzuk]

The man with the magic hat 100% in the reckoning

Away fans song this year to the tune of Wimoweh / Kamberi

We're the Rangers, the Queens Park Rangers we never win away
We're the Rangers, the Queens Park Rangers we never win away
A win away, a win away, a win away - etc etc.

[erin go bragh]

Would be controversial but very good appointment IMO.

His teams play good football and clever football guy.

Won what with a huge budget at Rangers . Hope to god it’s not him .

[Mcbizz1998]

The annoying thing is I think he'd be a cracking appointment but we've relentlessly ridiculed him for six years so just can't see it.

You really think Ron or his son know that? They have no idea what hibs fans sing.

[bigwheel]

The annoying thing is I think he'd be a cracking appointment but we've relentlessly ridiculed him for six years so just can't see it.

I don’t see anything likeable about him ..not that great a manager either ..but likely I’m blinded by his time with the Huns

[snedzuk]

Won what with a huge budget at Rangers . Hope to god it’s not him .

Schooled off Hecky last time out (3-1 Sheff Utd)

"The R's announced on Thursday that manager Warburton will leave at the end of his contract (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61263745) this summer.
His side, who could have theoretically kept their own play-off hopes alive with a win, did manage to mount some late attacks to try to salvage a point.
Jimmy Dunne saw an effort thunder back off the crossbar with Blades goalkeeper Wes Foderingham well beaten.
Undimmed, the away side went to the other end and put the game to bed as Hourihane slammed home on the volley after fine work from Norway international midfielder Sander Berge.
Paul Heckingbottom's men end the regular season with a home game against champions-elect Fulham, while QPR, who have won just three of their past 17 matches, travel to Swansea."

[JeMeSouviens]

Schooled off Hecky last time out (3-1 Sheff Utd)

"The R's announced on Thursday that manager Warburton will leave at the end of his contract (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61263745) this summer.
His side, who could have theoretically kept their own play-off hopes alive with a win, did manage to mount some late attacks to try to salvage a point.
Jimmy Dunne saw an effort thunder back off the crossbar with Blades goalkeeper Wes Foderingham well beaten.
Undimmed, the away side went to the other end and put the game to bed as Hourihane slammed home on the volley after fine work from Norway international midfielder Sander Berge.
Paul Heckingbottom's men end the regular season with a home game against champions-elect Fulham, while QPR, who have won just three of their past 17 matches, travel to Swansea."

Ooh, that bit sounds nice. :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

Still can’t believe Warbiola won the manager of the year for winning the Scottish Championship 😂

[Alex Trager]

It’s a no from me toward the bread man

[alibaba]

It’s a no from me toward the bread man

It’s also a no from me never won much at Rangers despite having all that dough


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[Gmack7]

It’s a no from me toward the bread man

Ditto, surely a wind up there must be and will be better options than him

[bigwheel]

Ditto, surely a wind up there must be and will be better options than him

Making Appleton sound like a saviour !

[MrSmith]

No, no and no Warburton for me thanks!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

It’s also a no from me never won much at Rangers despite having all that dough


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Beaten by us in the SCF, then came up against Brendan Rodgers Celtic side. A bit harsh tbh

His stock will still be high enough down south, I'd imagine he'll get a gig down there no bother

[Unseen work]

I think Warburton would be a fantastic appointment.

[CropleyWasGod]

I think Warburton would be a fantastic appointment.

For who? AC Milanda?

[Scooter]

I think Warburton would be a fantastic appointment.

He can't win the big games either!:greengrin

[leith lynx]

I think Warburton would be a fantastic appointment.

He's a muppet....

[bigwheel]

He's a muppet....

Think you’ll find he’s a fanny …

[bingo70]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-appleton-centre-hibs-salford-26884819

Nothing story in the Daily Record tonight but positioned in such a way, if we don’t get Appleton, it’s because we’ve missed out on him.

[Stuart93]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-appleton-centre-hibs-salford-26884819

Nothing story in the Daily Record tonight but positioned in such a way, if we don’t get Appleton, it’s because we’ve missed out on him.

Imagine my surprise when I seen who wrote the article

[Stevie Reid]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-appleton-centre-hibs-salford-26884819

Nothing story in the Daily Record tonight but positioned in such a way, if we don’t get Appleton, it’s because we’ve missed out on him.

He can’t even get basic details right. Says Jack Ross got the job when Appleton couldn’t agree a deal in 2019, instead of Hecky.

[Unseen work]

I wasn’t keen on Appleton at all purely due to just looking at his Wikipedia.

Looking at him in more detail though and seeing the response of the Oxford and Lincoln fans I’d be happy if he got the job.

Think he’d be a very good fit here.

First signings Conor McGrandles, Regan Poole and Morgan Whittikar

[WhileTheChief..]

We need some good news today.

Way too many happy Rangers and Hearts fans around.

[chippy]

For who? AC Milanda?

I played for AC Milanda when I worked at the Sighthill bakery late 70s

[Nicho87]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy3aRw0X4AEv4hn.jpg

[truehibernian]

I wasn’t keen on Appleton at all purely due to just looking at his Wikipedia.

Looking at him in more detail though and seeing the response of the Oxford and Lincoln fans I’d be happy if he got the job.

Think he’d be a very good fit here.

First signings Conor McGrandles, Regan Poole and Morgan Whittikar

We’re already looking at Regan Poole apparently- I posted that last month, although the guy who told isn’t associated with Hibs. He the young Welsh defender/defensive midfielder?

[sorrow sorrow]

Mcinnes 👀

[ahibby]

Mcinnes 👀

Would be underwhelming. Ultimately failed at Aberdeen, with a higher budget than ours

[Unseen work]

We’re already looking at Regan Poole apparently- I posted that last month, although the guy who told isn’t associated with Hibs. He the young Welsh defender/defensive midfielder?

Would be delighted with that based on what I’ve heard about him.

Think he was a right back but this season has moved into a central position where it looks like he’ll be player or the season.

[Blaster]

Would be underwhelming. Ultimately failed at Aberdeen, with a higher budget than ours

I’d take Mcinnes. I actually think he stayed at Aberdeen too long and they became stale but his record was pretty good in terms of league positions. Folk say they finished where they should have due to their budget. Doing that regularly would be progression for us as we rarely do

[04Sauzee]

We’re already looking at Regan Poole apparently- I posted that last month, although the guy who told isn’t associated with Hibs. He the young Welsh defender/defensive midfielder?

Looks like he's listed as a RB
Not sure if he can play RCB or DM he's a 6 footer and looks decent from what very little I have seen (YouTube 😁)

[oldbutdim]

It’s also a no from me never won much at Rangers despite having all that dough


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Nice one.

:thumbsup:

[Heisenberg]

Mcinnes 👀

Just a suggestion or heard something? I wouldn’t be against it but I know many would. He’d get results but the football would probably be the same as what JR gave us.

[Lago]

Just a suggestion or heard something? I wouldn’t be against it but I know many would. He’d get results but the football would probably be the same as what JR gave us.
Yip would be a case of back to the future, and the complaints would start all over again about eye bleeding football.

[Callum_62]

Near the end on Mcinnes time they played conservstive football but they Wernt alway like that I don't think?

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[Since452]

The more i think about it the more i wouldn't be surprised if we went for McInnes. Ron basically said he'd made a mistake sacking Ross and to me they are pretty similar. I know a lot of fans don't want a Ross/McInnes type though so he'd immediatley be on a hiding to nothing. Not really seen him mentioned as being in the running though.

[04Sauzee]

Near the end on Mcinnes time they played conservstive football but they Wernt alway like that I don't think?

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They weren't they had some good players , some players who went for decent money.
I think in the end the recruiter team failed him and. at the end of his time there they definitely had an aging squad

That's not me getting behind a McInnes appointment but there were reasons why it was going stale at Aberdeen.

[04Sauzee]

Is there a reason McInnes is the new Bookies favourite??

[Stuart93]

Is there a reason McInnes is the new Bookies favourite??

I had a look on mcbookie and he’s still there as 4th favourite

McKay Appleton & Mowbray all 7/2. Don’t think the bookies have a clue who it’s going to be yet.

[Lago]

I had a look on mcbookie and he’s still there as 4th favourite

McKay Appleton & Mowbray all 7/2. Don’t think the bookies have a clue who it’s going to be yet.
Hopefully someone has a clue 😁🙏

[Scorrie]

I had a look on mcbookie and he’s still there as 4th favourite

McKay Appleton & Mowbray all 7/2. Don’t think the bookies have a clue who it’s going to be yet.

McBookie now have McInnes 5/2 fav...

[Stuart93]

McBookie now have McInnes 5/2 fav...

So they have. Must’ve just been updated cause I’d only checked when I posted initially. Seems a big shift cause he was sitting at 6/1

[Brightside]

McInnes won’t be popular but he would give us stability for the next couple of seasons. He’s also a strong personality which for me is exactly what we need in that role right now.

[Col2]

McInnes is a safe pair of hands and would get us back on track.

He has worked with US ownership before and knows the Scottish game better than most.

It won’t get fans that excited initially but might be a decent choice.

[leith lynx]

It’s also a no from me never won much at Rangers despite having all that dough


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I'll raise a toast to that!

[Scorrie]

McInnes won’t be popular but he would give us stability for the next couple of seasons. He’s also a strong personality which for me is exactly what we need in that role right now.

That’s where I’m at. I don’t think his football was as grim as the sheep made out.

[Stuart93]

That’s where I’m at. I don’t think his football was as grim as the sheep made out.

Maybe earlier in his tenure but in their later seasons the football they played was notably bad. Absolute hoofball cannon fodder which was alluded to loads on here.

If it is to be mcinnes I’ve no idea why we didn’t appoint him when we brought SM in considering he was unemployed at that point

[bingo70]

Hopefully someone has a clue 😁🙏

In all likelihood Hibs won’t know just now so the bookies definitely won’t.

[Unseen work]

I never thought McCinnes necessarily played hoofball but more that they were dirty ********, which isn’t a bad thing.

Ferguson, Shinnie, McLean etc are all really good players but not afraid to put their foot in and slow the game down for the opposition.

But they always had players that had quality on the ball.

It wouldn’t make much sense to get rid of Ross and eventually replace him with McInness though so I can’t see it.

[Mcbizz1998]

McInnes would be a safe appointment at this stage and one I would be happy enough with.

I couldn’t give a toss what kind of football he plays, I want to win football matches.

[Since452]

Maybe earlier in his tenure but in their later seasons the football they played was notably bad. Absolute hoofball cannon fodder which was alluded to loads on here.

If it is to be mcinnes I’ve no idea why we didn’t appoint him when we brought SM in considering he was unemployed at that point

I think it was more down to frustration that they kept on beating us. They had a knack of managing to grind out wins or important results over numerous seasons. Something i was extremely envious of. They were in a lot of finals which they didn't win but i'm sure they were all against Celtic so not surprising.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I never thought McCinnes necessarily played hoofball but more that they were dirty ********, which isn’t a bad thing.

Ferguson, Shinnie, McLean etc are all really good players but not afraid to put their foot in and slow the game down for the opposition.

But they always had players that had quality on the ball.

It wouldn’t make much sense to get rid of Ross and eventually replace him with McInness though so I can’t see it.

McInnes is an upgrade on Ross.

That’s not to say I want him, but whilst they may have similar styles McInnes is undoubtedly a better manager.

[Stuart93]

I think it was more down to frustration that they kept on beating us. They had a knack of managing to grind out wins or important results over numerous seasons. Something i was extremely envious of. They were in a lot of finals which they didn't win but i'm sure they were all against Celtic so not surprising.

My worry is a bit of revisionism from us about the way they played football. Then a couple months down the line we’re sitting watching it thinking “oh aye this is how his Aberdeen team played”

I guess we can only wait and see. There’s no doubt we need to do some spending in the summer and spend wisely.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Sorry, spelling korekted...

pedants of the Wordle untie! :)

[Aldo]

I wouldn’t be adverse to McInnes getting the job however I am leaning more towards Appleton.

DM brings a wealth of experience in the Scottish game and like others gave mentioned will steady the ship sort to speak!

Hopefully something is announced in next week or so!


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[hibsforeurope]

I Didn't want McInnes but if it' a choice between him, Appleton and MacKay then it has to be McInnes.

[Mr. Wonderful]

McBookie now have McInnes 5/2 fav...

The leith Simeone.

[GreenCastle]

I actually would be fine with McInnes.

Few reasons..

Weakens Killie
He understands Scottish football - sounds simple but we can’t have a manager take months of transition to work things out.
He can get the best out of some average players.
He has good staff around him
He would install a spine in our team and players seem to enjoy playing for him.
Look at Aberdeen since he left..

[Mr. Wonderful]

I actually would be fine with McInnes.

Few reasons..

Weakens Killie
He understands Scottish football - sounds simple but we can’t have a manager take months of transition to work things out.
He can get the best out of some average players.
He has good staff around him
He would install a spine in our team and players seem to enjoy playing for him.
Look at Aberdeen since he left..

All of this and we should've hired him in December.

[Willis1875]

Mcinnes at St Johnstone like Ross at St Mirren had them playing some good stuff,so isn’t necessarily a hoofball merchant and can likely adapt to a style of football that suits the players at his disposal

[LeithMike]

I never thought McCinnes necessarily played hoofball but more that they were dirty ********, which isn’t a bad thing.

Ferguson, Shinnie, McLean etc are all really good players but not afraid to put their foot in and slow the game down for the opposition.

But they always had players that had quality on the ball.

It wouldn’t make much sense to get rid of Ross and eventually replace him with McInness though so I can’t see it.I think its a bit of a disservice to McInnes to compare him to JR. He has a far superior and fsr more consistent managerial record. Remember Rangers wanted to appoint him not so long ago - JR has never been in that position. Aberdeen habe also played decent football until his latter couple of seasons when it started to go stale.

I think DM is the best appointment we could make and I think he'll be hungry to prove himself again. It also points to the Owners and Board realising they need someone with proper football knowledge who wont be a pushover.

Its not without risk (no appointment ever is) but its the right appointment for Hibs and the one that should have been made when Maloney got it. Maybe we'll be more accepting of, and patient with, him as a support now.

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[18Craig75]

Given where we find ourselves we can’t afford to be snobby and turn our nose up at someone with a proven track record like McInnes.

The club needs stability, United fans and the connection between club & fans restored. I think Mcinnes is a big enough personality to help with that.

Given some of the other names being mentioned now, he’s probably my top choice.

[Not In The Know]

McInnes won’t be popular but he would give us stability for the next couple of seasons. He’s also a strong personality which for me is exactly what we need in that role right now.


Id take him - hes what i hoped Jack ross would be for us. A safe steady pair of hands, top 6 finishes and allow us to build a consistent playing budget with consistent performance on the pitch

[Coco Bryce]

Id take him - hes what i hoped Jack ross would be for us. A safe steady pair of hands, top 6 finishes and allow us to build a consistent playing budget with consistent performance on the pitch

But **** to watch?

[WhileTheChief..]

McInnes's Aberdeen side was slated on here for years for being boring, hoofball, hackers.

Now he's a favourite for the Hibs job.

How does that happen?

He was there for 7 or 8 years and not once did anyone suggest he would be good for Hibs.

What's changed to make us think he's now the right man for the job?

[Not In The Know]

But **** to watch?

We need to be constantly finishing high up the league as bare minimum if we are ever to progress. Just look how much cash Hearts have scooped this year on league placing.

One thing he never benefited from at Aberdeen was having the fans on side by winning local derbies. If he beats hearts 4 times year thats half (maybe more) the support behind him.

[Mcbizz1998]

McInnes's Aberdeen side was slated on here for years for being boring, hoofball, hackers.

Now he's a favourite for the Hibs job.

How does that happen?

He was there for 7 or 8 years and not once did anyone suggest he would be good for Hibs.

What's changed to make us think he's now the right man for the job?

He was only slated in here because his Aberdeen team consistently finished above Hibs and beat Hibs more often than not.

[WhileTheChief..]

Maybe we'll be more accepting of, and patient with, him as a support now.

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I think you're right with this, it will be a much smaller support at ER though!!

[Not In The Know]

McInnes's Aberdeen side was slated on here for years for being boring, hoofball, hackers.

Now he's a favourite for the Hibs job.

How does that happen?

He was there for 7 or 8 years and not once did anyone suggest he would be good for Hibs.

What's changed to make us think he's now the right man for the job?


He would never have left Aberdeen for hibs as they were ahead of us, mostly due to him.

[Coco Bryce]

McInnes's Aberdeen side was slated on here for years for being boring, hoofball, hackers.

Now he's a favourite for the Hibs job.

How does that happen?

He was there for 7 or 8 years and not once did anyone suggest he would be good for Hibs.

What's changed to make us think he's now the right man for the job?

I agree. I deal with a couple of Killie fans through work. Although he has just got them promoted they said they have been truly shocking to watch since his appointment.

[Since90+2]

McInnes's Aberdeen side was slated on here for years for being boring, hoofball, hackers.

Now he's a favourite for the Hibs job.

How does that happen?

He was there for 7 or 8 years and not once did anyone suggest he would be good for Hibs.

What's changed to make us think he's now the right man for the job?

Because during the majority of those 8 years there's absolutely no chance he'd have left Aberdeen to come to us. Most folk are not daft and would know that hence nobody would be suggesting we appoint him.

[nickwhibs]

Yeah would take McIness at this stage too. Think he’s the kind of guy who would get the most out of players and will get us moving in the right direction again.

[Stuart93]

I agree. I deal with a couple of Killie fans through work. Although he has just got them promoted they said they have been truly shocking to watch since his appointment.

And it’s the last part that made a % of hibs fans apathetic watching JR’s hibs team because we were boring

[WhileTheChief..]

He was only slated in here because his Aberdeen team consistently finished above Hibs and beat Hibs more often than not.

Why would we slate him for being better than us, that doesn't make sense.

On the non-Hibs game threads throughout the year you'll not find anyone singing Aberdeen's praises or that they wished Hibs played like Aberdeen!

[Sioux]

I wasn’t keen on Appleton at all purely due to just looking at his Wikipedia.

Looking at him in more detail though and seeing the response of the Oxford and Lincoln fans I’d be happy if he got the job.

Think he’d be a very good fit here.

First signings Conor McGrandles, Regan Poole and Morgan Whittikar

Do you really use wiki as a competent source of information and fact, especially with such a subjective narrative as football? Maybe you should get a job in journalism.

[WhileTheChief..]

Because during the majority of those 8 years there's absolutely no chance he'd have left Aberdeen to come to us. Most folk are not daft and would know that hence nobody would be suggesting we appoint him.

Yeah ok, but was anybody saying "Man, look at Aberdeen go, wish we could have McInnes as manager"?

I'm still holding out for an appointment that makes the majority of Hibs fans go " Ya beauty, didn't see that coming, well played Hibs!" :greengrin

[500miles]

We need to be constantly finishing high up the league as bare minimum if we are ever to progress. Just look how much cash Hearts have scooped this year on league placing.

One thing he never benefited from at Aberdeen was having the fans on side by winning local derbies. If he beats hearts 4 times year thats half (maybe more) the support behind him.

Aberdeen and thier famous "local derby". With who? Cove Rangers?

[Sioux]

Yeah ok, but was anybody saying "Man, look at Aberdeen go, wish we could have McInnes as manager"?

I'm still holding out for an appointment that makes the majority of Hibs fans go " Ya beauty, didn't see that coming, well played Hibs!" :greengrin

This Hollywood A list celebrity type won't be happening any time soon.

[500miles]

Ross has one full season in the top league with McInness hoovering up our transfer targets and he still finished above him in the league.

We'd be better making up with Jack Ross than signing Mcinnes.

[WhileTheChief..]

This Hollywood A list celebrity type won't be happening any time soon.

Yeah, I'm not setting my sights too high now, but I still think we can do better than someone from Lincoln or Peterborough or similar.

Hope so anyway.

[et_hibby]

Ross has one full season in the top league with McInness hoovering up our transfer targets and he still finished above him in the league.

We'd be better making up with Jack Ross than signing Mcinnes.

There's a lot that is fairly logical in what you say here ..

[Billy Whizz]

I'd be surprised if McInnes joined Hibs. After the relationship breakdown with Cormack, Ron's pal.
He's always said the most important relationship is Manager/Chairman. Also unless he's been given some assurances about recruitment

[Not In The Know]

Aberdeen and thier famous "local derby". With who? Cove Rangers?


never benefited - never had one :rolleyes:

[MWHIBBIES]

Would be underwhelming. Ultimately failed at Aberdeen, with a higher budget than ours

Would give my left nut for him to fail so hard here. Done very well at Aberdeen overall.

[WhileTheChief..]

Aberdeens record against the old firm was woeful. They never laid a glove on them and in 8 years.

Can’t remember how they got on against Hearts.

I don’t think we’ll be in for him. He’ll be favourite because the bookies are running out of names.

[WeeRussell]

Yeah ok, but was anybody saying "Man, look at Aberdeen go, wish we could have McInnes as manager"?

I'm still holding out for an appointment that makes the majority of Hibs fans go " Ya beauty, didn't see that coming, well played Hibs!" :greengrin

Mcinnes isn’t top of my list either. And “ya beauty” would be nice if it happens, but that wouldn’t have been Roy Keane, for example.

[WeeRussell]

Would give my left nut for him to fail so hard here. Done very well at Aberdeen overall.

Yep - I didn’t want McInness at the time of Maloney, and not overly enthused at the idea now. But I can’t see how anyone can call his time at Aberdeen a failure.

[Zambernardi1875]

Yep - I didn’t want McInness at the time of Maloney, and not overly enthused at the idea now. But I can’t see how anyone can call his time at Aberdeen a failure.

League was without rangers Hibs and hearts during his time at Aberdeen, won the league cup by beating Alloa, Falkirk, Motherwell, st Johnstone then ICT on pens in the final. Not much to get excited about

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ross has one full season in the top league with McInness hoovering up our transfer targets and he still finished above him in the league.

We'd be better making up with Jack Ross than signing Mcinnes.

And why did Jack Ross not get a second full season? Because he couldn’t sustain it and left us bottom half.

McInnes also didn’t get that full season when we finished 3rd, so it’s not like it’s a full season V full season comparison.

Derek McInnes managerial career is miles ahead of Jack Ross’.

[Hibernian Verse]

League was without rangers Hibs and hearts during his time at Aberdeen, won the league cup by beating Alloa, Falkirk, Motherwell, st Johnstone then ICT on pens in the final. Not much to get excited about

It's absolutely mental to discredit cup wins because they didn't play teams good enough to count. Clutching at straws there.

Hearts spent one season out of the league.

[Zambernardi1875]

It's absolutely mental to discredit cup wins because they didn't play teams good enough to count. Clutching at straws there.

Hearts spent one season out of the league.

Course you have to factor in who Aberdeen we’re against during his time if you want to give an overall balanced view of his success

[Hibernian Verse]

Course you have to factor in who Aberdeen we’re against during his time if you want to give an overall balanced view of his success

You can only play who is in front of you.

[Zambernardi1875]

You can only play who is in front of you.

Ah ok, so next time I have a swimming race against 8 kids with no arms I’ll rub it right into there wee faces after I beat them, people on swimming forums can then praise how good I am.

[Pretty Boy]

There is a lot of recency bias when it comes to assessing McInnes and his time at Aberdeen.

He took over a team that finished 9th, 9th and 8th in the 3 seasons preceding his appointment. In his 1st full season they finished 3rd and won the League Cup, they scored 53 goals that year more than anyone other than Celtic, Motherwell and Dundee Utd. He followed that up with:

2nd (no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers), scoring 57 goals, 3rd behind Celtic and Dundee Utd. They also had a spell of 1 loss in 20 games.
2nd (no Hibs or Rangers), scoring 62, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (no Hibs), scoring 74, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (Hibs, Hearts and Rangers all back), scoring 56, behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
4th, scoring 57 behind only Celtic and Rangers
4th, scoring 40, behind 4 other teams

There is no doubt both the style of football and results deteriorated towards the end of his reign. However he continued to achieve a consistency that has eluded us for decades whilst dealing with the loss of several of his better players. A lot of his change in style was down to necessity as much as desire. He also had a complete breakdown in his relationship with the new owner towards the end of his time there. Hibs have been clear that the 1st step towards improving our position is to consistently be top 4 first, McInnes would give us some chance of doing that. Beyond that he has tangible success at 2 of the other 3 clubs he has been at. An unqualified success at St Johnstone and regardless of any grumbling from Killie fans he done what he was brought in to do there as well.

I argued McInnes was the man when Maloney got the job and I'd be absolutely delighted if he gets the job this time.

[Hibernian Verse]

Ah ok, so next time I have a swimming race against 8 kids with no arms I’ll rub it right into there wee faces after I beat them, people on swimming forums can then praise how good I am.

What's that got to do with anything?

By your logic, Hibs should've finished above Falkirk and/or beat them in the playoffs.

Football rarely works like you seem to think it does.

If you'd like another example, our Scottish Championship win doesn't count and we shouldn't have been promoted because Rangers, Hearts & A N Other weren't in the league.

As above, McInnes finished ahead of Rangers & Hearts one season and all three of us the season after. Does that count?

[WhileTheChief..]

Course you have to factor in who Aberdeen we’re against during his time if you want to give an overall balanced view of his success

Yup.

Folks scrambling around trying to say he's got a good record now, when we spent years slagging him and his teams off.

As soon as we appoint someone else, it will be back to 'never wanted him anyway'.

Whenever anyone is linked to us, no matter who it is, we have people saying how happy they will be.

I don't get it. Are we just meant to like/want whoever is linked to us or whoever we get?

Never used to be like this.

[WeeRussell]

Ah ok, so next time I have a swimming race against 8 kids with no arms I’ll rub it right into there wee faces after I beat them, people on swimming forums can then praise how good I am.

I mean, your ridiculous swimming forums comparison aside, I didn’t praise him. In fact, I stated I’ve never wanted McInness during either of these manager hunts.

I was merely pointing out that his time at Aberdeen wasn’t a failure.

[Stuart93]

Yup.

Folks scrambling around trying to say he's got a good record now, when we spent years slagging him and his teams off.

As soon as we appoint someone else, it will be back to 'never wanted him anyway'.

Whenever anyone is linked to us, no matter who it is, we have people saying how happy they will be.

I don't get it. Are we just meant to like/want whoever is linked to us or whoever we get?

Never used to be like this.

Suppose it comes down to some posters being happy regardless of what hibs do and at the other end people unhappy with whatever hibs do.

I certainly remember a lot of peoples opinions on here of McInnes’ Aberdeen and they weren’t positive.

[Unseen work]

Do you really use wiki as a competent source of information and fact, especially with such a subjective narrative as football? Maybe you should get a job in journalism.


No, hence why I said when you look at him in more detail.

My point is a lot of fans will discount him based on a quick search on his Wikipedia and see he’s managed Lincoln and Oxford then looking at his win %.

A look in more detail shows he’d be a good appointment imo.

[Pretty Boy]

Yup.

Folks scrambling around trying to say he's got a good record now, when we spent years slagging him and his teams off.

As soon as we appoint someone else, it will be back to 'never wanted him anyway'.

Whenever anyone is linked to us, no matter who it is, we have people saying how happy they will be.

I don't get it. Are we just meant to like/want whoever is linked to us or whoever we get?

Never used to be like this.

I think a lot of people didn't/don't like McInnes because his Aberdeen side beat us more often than not. That tends to cloud anyone's view and leads to accusations that the only way anyone can beat Hibs is by being anti football and hoofball.

In the full seasons he was there after we were promoted I think it was P12, W2, D3 and L7!

[Blaster]

Suppose it comes down to some posters being happy regardless of what hibs do and at the other end people unhappy with whatever hibs do.

I certainly remember a lot of peoples opinions on here of McInnes’ Aberdeen and they weren’t positive.

Was that not just games against us though? He knew his best chance of beating us was to stop us playing. He was successful most of the time.

It was horrible to watch from our point of view but not all wins are going to be pretty football.

[Hibernian Verse]

Ah ok, so next time I have a swimming race against 8 kids with no arms I’ll rub it right into there wee faces after I beat them, people on swimming forums can then praise how good I am.

It's just dawned on me that, when using your ridiculous swimming analogy, Hibs got beat by a kid with no arms when we lost the playoff to Falkirk.

[Hibernian Verse]

Was that not just games against us though? He knew his best chance of beating us was to stop us playing. He was successful most of the time.

It was horrible to watch from our point of view but not all wins are going to be pretty football.

Totally agree. If I'm off to a minimum of 4 x European away games in late 2023 like my Hearts mates will be this year I'll not giving a flying **** how we've got there.

[Mcbizz1998]

Ah ok, so next time I have a swimming race against 8 kids with no arms I’ll rub it right into there wee faces after I beat them, people on swimming forums can then praise how good I am.

One of the most bizarre and idiotic things I have ever read on here. Well done.

[SaulGoodman]

I don’t give a **** how we play as long as we win.

I’ll be a lot happier at 6pm on a Saturday night with a 1-0 win than I would be losing a game but playing this mythical Hibs way that I’ve actually seen us play maybe twice in my lifetime.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Suppose it comes down to some posters being happy regardless of what hibs do and at the other end people unhappy with whatever hibs do.

I certainly remember a lot of peoples opinions on here of McInnes’ Aberdeen and they weren’t positive.

Maybe some are able to look past the tribalistic views of a fan base and think logically, while others are stuck in the past.

[J-C]

Could it be that McInnes took his eye off the ball and assumed he was top 3 guaranteed when all the big teams were back in the league again. Personally I think he's a Jack Ross 2, steady Eddie safe hands who'll get top 6 without setting the heather on fire, you may be bored to tears but never in trouble.

[Smartie]

Was that not just games against us though? He knew his best chance of beating us was to stop us playing. He was successful most of the time.

It was horrible to watch from our point of view but not all wins are going to be pretty football.

He had enough decent players at Aberdeen during his time there to play decent enough football when the opportunity arose.

[davhibby]

There is a lot of recency bias when it comes to assessing McInnes and his time at Aberdeen.

He took over a team that finished 9th, 9th and 8th in the 3 seasons preceding his appointment. In his 1st full season they finished 3rd and won the League Cup, they scored 53 goals that year more than anyone other than Celtic, Motherwell and Dundee Utd. He followed that up with:

2nd (no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers), scoring 57 goals, 3rd behind Celtic and Dundee Utd. They also had a spell of 1 loss in 20 games.
2nd (no Hibs or Rangers), scoring 62, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (no Hibs), scoring 74, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (Hibs, Hearts and Rangers all back), scoring 56, behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
4th, scoring 57 behind only Celtic and Rangers
4th, scoring 40, behind 4 other teams

There is no doubt both the style of football and results deteriorated towards the end of his reign. However he continued to achieve a consistency that has eluded us for decades whilst dealing with the loss of several of his better players. A lot of his change in style was down to necessity as much as desire. He also had a complete breakdown in his relationship with the new owner towards the end of his time there. Hibs have been clear that the 1st step towards improving our position is to consistently be top 4 first, McInnes would give us some chance of doing that. Beyond that he has tangible success at 2 of the other 3 clubs he has been at. An unqualified success at St Johnstone and regardless of any grumbling from Killie fans he done what he was brought in to do there as well.

I argued McInnes was the man when Maloney got the job and I'd be absolutely delighted if he gets the job this time.

The issue of saying the style got worse towards the end at Aberdeen is that he’s showed that it was how he wanted his team to play, Killie have been just as bad to watch if not worse since he’s been there and he was 15 minutes away from effectively losing the Championship to a part time team.

I wouldn’t have been happy with McInnes in December but I’d have been willing to give him a chance to show that he’d learned from his mistakes over the last 3 years at Aberdeen. He clearly hasn’t and would be an awful appointment in terms of galvanising support and bringing the fans back but also there’s nothing in his recent history to suggest he’d be capable of getting us to compete with Hearts

[davhibby]

Was that not just games against us though? He knew his best chance of beating us was to stop us playing. He was successful most of the time.

It was horrible to watch from our point of view but not all wins are going to be pretty football.

It was any time home or away they played a team he felt remotely threatened by.
Basically if he was here you’d not get any excitement in games against Celtic/Rangers/Hearts/Aberdeen and probably Dundee Utd as well. Fair enough if people think that sounds good but we sacked a manager who was better 4 months ago.

[Pretty Boy]

The issue of saying the style got worse towards the end at Aberdeen is that he’s showed that it was how he wanted his team to play, Killie have been just as bad to watch if not worse since he’s been there and he was 15 minutes away from effectively losing the Championship to a part time team.

I wouldn’t have been happy with McInnes in December but I’d have been willing to give him a chance to show that he’d learned from his mistakes over the last 3 years at Aberdeen. He clearly hasn’t and would be an awful appointment in terms of galvanising support and bringing the fans back but also there’s nothing in his recent history to suggest he’d be capable of getting us to compete with Hearts

I'm not sure it really does point to how he wants to play. Over the years at Aberdeen he lost Niall McGinn, Kenny McLean, Ryan Jack, Johnny Hayes, David Goodwillie, Adam Rooney, Gary Mackay Steven, Graeme Shinnie and Sam Cosgrove.

That's a lot of midfielders and strikers to replace whilst still trying to play entertaining football. We have seen how difficult that is here and have never managed to retain the level of consistency in league finishes that McInnes did at Aberdeen. And regardless of how close he was to losing the Championship, he didn't. He took over a team in 3rd and won the league with a game to spare.

[ShadesLongThrow]

There is a lot of recency bias when it comes to assessing McInnes and his time at Aberdeen.

He took over a team that finished 9th, 9th and 8th in the 3 seasons preceding his appointment. In his 1st full season they finished 3rd and won the League Cup, they scored 53 goals that year more than anyone other than Celtic, Motherwell and Dundee Utd. He followed that up with:

2nd (no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers), scoring 57 goals, 3rd behind Celtic and Dundee Utd. They also had a spell of 1 loss in 20 games.
2nd (no Hibs or Rangers), scoring 62, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (no Hibs), scoring 74, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (Hibs, Hearts and Rangers all back), scoring 56, behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
4th, scoring 57 behind only Celtic and Rangers
4th, scoring 40, behind 4 other teams

There is no doubt both the style of football and results deteriorated towards the end of his reign. However he continued to achieve a consistency that has eluded us for decades whilst dealing with the loss of several of his better players. A lot of his change in style was down to necessity as much as desire. He also had a complete breakdown in his relationship with the new owner towards the end of his time there. Hibs have been clear that the 1st step towards improving our position is to consistently be top 4 first, McInnes would give us some chance of doing that. Beyond that he has tangible success at 2 of the other 3 clubs he has been at. An unqualified success at St Johnstone and regardless of any grumbling from Killie fans he done what he was brought in to do there as well.

I argued McInnes was the man when Maloney got the job and I'd be absolutely delighted if he gets the job this time.

Excellent post. If we're wanting someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, I can't think of anyone else in our price range that comes close to his amount of experience, success and consistency whilst operating within a sensible budget. I'd be very happy if he came in and steadied the ship. I'd always criticised his teams for being a bunch of cloggers, but in retrospect, that's probably because we didn't have anyone that could or would play like that. Hence the boy band description which has never gone away and continues with our powder puff midfield who are scared to tackle. McInnes would change that mindset very quickly.

[Keith_M]

Hecky, Ross and Maloney.... then McIness?

Do we actually want fans to go to watch Hibs?

[WhileTheChief..]

I don’t give a **** how we play as long as we win.

I’ll be a lot happier at 6pm on a Saturday night with a 1-0 win than I would be losing a game but playing this mythical Hibs way that I’ve actually seen us play maybe twice in my lifetime.


Shoulda gone to more games :greengrin

You don't have to go back too far to have witnessed some amazing football at ER. It just feels like a lifetime ago!

[Walter]

I think we have lost sight of a few things in search of footballing purity. Whatever happened to
1. Win
2. Win well
3. Entertain

Can we not just start winning and then get f****** fussy

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Hecky, Ross and Maloney.... then McIness?

Do we actually want fans to go to watch Hibs?

Better to win ugly than lose pretty.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hecky, Ross and Maloney.... then McIness?

Do we actually want fans to go to watch Hibs?

This is my concern with McInnes and why I wouldn’t want him.

I reckon he’d come in and get decent results. I just think it would be garbage to watch. We’ve been ***** to watch now for years and it’s about time we started playing some attractive football imo.

[WhileTheChief..]

Excellent post. If we're wanting someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, I can't think of anyone else in our price range that comes close to his amount of experience, success and consistency whilst operating within a sensible budget. I'd be very happy if he came in and steadied the ship. I'd always criticised his teams for being a bunch of cloggers, but in retrospect, that's probably because we didn't have anyone that could or would play like that. Hence the boy band description which has never gone away and continues with our powder puff midfield who are scared to tackle. McInnes would change that mindset very quickly.


This is the best that anyone has had to say about some of the names being linked with us.

Steady as she goes. Steady Eddie. Ready Freddie?

Is this really all we're looking for now?

RG certainly appears to want much, much more.

We've got a great opportunity here to really kick on from ground zero. Let's reach for the stars a bit!!

[Pretty Boy]

This is the best that anyone has had to say about some of the names being linked with us.

Steady as she goes. Steady Eddie. Ready Freddie?

Is this really all we're looking for now?

RG certainly appears to want much, much more.

We've got a great opportunity here to really kick on from ground zero. Let's reach for the stars a bit!!

For all I disagree with the current decision makers at Hibs about a lot I do like that they seem to understand you can't go from 0 to 100 in one step.

They have been pretty clear that the 1st step is to consistently be in or around the top 4. Since 1977 we have managed consecutive top 4 finishes once. That's utterly pitiful by any standard. If you want to build a base of consistency to grow from then someone like McInnes is exactly who we should be looking at because he has proven more than capable of doing that.

I'm not saying there aren't other managers out there capable of doing the same, or better, but I'm not turning my nose up at McInnes either. Whether people want to admit it or not he's a very good manager with a proven track record at this level.

[Highwayman]

There are currently 7 Scottish managers managing in England.

Would you look favourably on any of the undernoted:-

(1) David Moyes - West Ham
(2) Micky Mellon - Tranmere Rovers
(3) Robbie Stockdale - Rochdale
(4) Russel Martin - Swansea
(5) Alex Neil - Sunderland
(6) Derek Adams - Morecambe
(7) Steve Evans - Stevenage

[Mainstandman]

It’s a bit weird that on paper the best candidate for the job is probably Jack Ross. Knows Scottish football, won titles here, taken clubs to hampden regularly, had a free scoring side, relative success in England! Served time in lower leagues learning his trade

[RossScott1991]

I just want Tony Mowbray to return at this stage.

The rest don’t really get me excited. Someone like Mcinnes would have fans on his back at first set of bad results. Even if the football was half decent the modern fan would still take to social media to talk about how boring it is. He’d be onto a hiding to nothing.

[SaulGoodman]

Shoulda gone to more games :greengrin

You don't have to go back too far to have witnessed some amazing football at ER. It just feels like a lifetime ago!

By twice I meant under two managers and not just two games :greengrin

Probably Mowbray, most games under Stubbs although some were pretty grim too, and some of Lennon for that first season back in the Prem.

[Nicho87]

It’s a bit weird that on paper the best candidate for the job is probably Jack Ross. Knows Scottish football, won titles here, taken clubs to hampden regularly, had a free scoring side, relative success in England! Served time in lower leagues learning his trade

Free scoring?

Come on

[Since452]

Free scoring?

Come on

Were we not 3rd highest scorers in the league last season?

[CapitalGreen]

There is a lot of recency bias when it comes to assessing McInnes and his time at Aberdeen.

He took over a team that finished 9th, 9th and 8th in the 3 seasons preceding his appointment. In his 1st full season they finished 3rd and won the League Cup, they scored 53 goals that year more than anyone other than Celtic, Motherwell and Dundee Utd. He followed that up with:

2nd (no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers), scoring 57 goals, 3rd behind Celtic and Dundee Utd. They also had a spell of 1 loss in 20 games.
2nd (no Hibs or Rangers), scoring 62, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (no Hibs), scoring 74, 2nd only to Celtic
2nd (Hibs, Hearts and Rangers all back), scoring 56, behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
4th, scoring 57 behind only Celtic and Rangers
4th, scoring 40, behind 4 other teams


McInnes averaged 59 goals per season over those 7 seasons.

Hibs have only bettered 59 goals in a season on 3 occasions since the league moved to 38 games per season for 2000/01.

Mowbray - (64) 2004/05 & (61) 2005/06
Lennon - (62) 2017/18

McLeish with Sauzee, Latapy et al. scored 57

[CapitalGreen]

It’s a bit weird that on paper the best candidate for the job is probably Jack Ross. Knows Scottish football, won titles here, taken clubs to hampden regularly, had a free scoring side, relative success in England! Served time in lower leagues learning his trade

What free scoring side did he have?

[Lago]

Expectations certainly seem to have plummeted from last weeks candidates.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is the best that anyone has had to say about some of the names being linked with us.

Steady as she goes. Steady Eddie. Ready Freddie?

Is this really all we're looking for now?

RG certainly appears to want much, much more.

We've got a great opportunity here to really kick on from ground zero. Let's reach for the stars a bit!!

RG appointed Shaun Maloney. He can want all he likes, he has been hopeless so far.

He messed up our chance to push on by turning 3rd in bottom 6.

[Pretty Boy]

Were we not 3rd highest scorers in the league last season?

We were.

Nowhere near the number of goals boring and negative McInnes regularly achieved with Aberdeen though:greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

By twice I meant under two managers and not just two games :greengrin

Probably Mowbray, most games under Stubbs although some were pretty grim too, and some of Lennon for that first season back in the Prem.

I know what you're saying and I don't really disagree.

But I'm trying to be positive for a minute.

We were amazing against Rangers, going 3-0 in 30 mins or so in the league cup.

All I'm asking for is to play like that for 90 mins in every game. Too much??!

[WhileTheChief..]

RG appointed Shaun Maloney. He can want all he likes, he has been hopeless so far.

He messed up our chance to push on by turning 3rd in bottom 6.

Yip, he did, big style.

But we're looking forwards now, not harking back to the past.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yip, he did, big style.

But we're looking forwards now, not harking back to the past.

You very much need to fix the mistakes of the past to move forward. It seems he is by going for a proven manager who can win matches. Not some doughnut like Keane who hasn't done anything in a decade.


I know what you're saying and I don't really disagree.

But I'm trying to be positive for a minute.

We were amazing against Rangers, going 3-0 in 30 mins or so in the league cup.

All I'm asking for is to play like that for 90 mins in every game. Too much??!

Asking Hibs to play at a level to be 3-0 up against the Europa league finalists every single week? yes, you certainly are asking too much considering no team in the world does that.

[WhileTheChief..]

You're the only person still banging on about Keane.

Let it drop, he's not coming to Hibs.

I'll ignore your last sentence. You obviously only ever take things literally without applying any thought to what you're reading.

[MWHIBBIES]

You're the only person still banging on about Keane.

Let it drop, he's not coming to Hibs.

I'll ignore your last sentence. You obviously only ever take things literally without applying any thought to what you're reading.

My bad, I'll stop taking anything you post seriously then.

[blackpoolhibs]

Ross has one full season in the top league with McInness hoovering up our transfer targets and he still finished above him in the league.

We'd be better making up with Jack Ross than signing Mcinnes.

Ah but McInnes is a much better manager than Ross. :faf:

[Hibby Mike]

What source is there on the McInnes front for the bookies to be tipping him?

[Highwayman]

Ah but McInnes is a much better manager than Ross. :faf:

Where’s the evidence that Derek McInnes is a much better manager than Jack Ross.

For example McInnes has been a manager for circa 15 years as opposed to Ross’s circa six.

In his time as manager McInnes has only won one major trophy.

Don’t think we’re comparing like with like here.

[MWHIBBIES]

Tbh, Ross and McInnes are very similar. Proven good managers. I'd be happy with either in charge for next season really. Would both have us top 4/5 imo, with good cup runs too.

[BoomtownHibees]

What source is there on the McInnes front for the bookies to be tipping him?

They aren’t “tipping” him. Somebody probably put a fiver on him

[Heisenberg]

What source is there on the McInnes front for the bookies to be tipping him?

Not sure it’s been reported anywhere in the press. His odds have been dropping all day (now 10/11 with William Hill). Folk obviously sticking a bit of cash on him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Where’s the evidence that Derek McInnes is a much better manager than Jack Ross.

For example McInnes has been a manager for circa 15 years as opposed to Ross’s circa six.

In his time as manager McInnes has only won one major trophy.

Don’t think we’re comparing like with like here.

McInnes averaged a 3rd place finish over a 9 season period with Aberdeen including his seasons where he wasn’t the manager the full season. Jack Ross averaged a 6th place finish at Hibs including the seasons he wasn’t manager for the full season.

McInnes averaged 1.8ppg at Aberdeen. Ross averaged 1.67ppg at Hibs.

McInnes won a trophy at Aberdeen. Ross won no trophies at Hibs.

He’s also managed at a higher level than Jack Ross.

By pretty much every useful measure, McInnes is a better manager than Ross.

[Cat Stanton]

I'd be massively happy with McInnes - I said at the time that Aberdeen would regret sacking him and they've dropped like a stone down the league since they did. But I really can't see him coming. Why would he? He's obviously the flavour of the month at Kilmarnock, and knows he has the club's support. Why risk leaving that for a club that sacks two managers within a few months and appears (from the outside at least) to be all over the place? Seems wildly unlikely.

[Since452]

McInnes averaged a 3rd place finish over a 9 season period with Aberdeen including his seasons where he wasn’t the manager the full season. Jack Ross averaged a 6th place finish at Hibs including the seasons he wasn’t manager for the full season.

McInnes averaged 1.8ppg at Aberdeen. Ross averaged 1.67ppg at Hibs.

McInnes won a trophy at Aberdeen. Ross won no trophies at Hibs.

He’s also managed at a higher level than Jack Ross.

By every possible measure, McInnes is a better manager than Ross.

I'm convinced. Get him in.

[He's here!]

I'd be massively happy with McInnes - I said at the time that Aberdeen would regret sacking him and they've dropped like a stone down the league since they did. But I really can't see him coming. Why would he? He's obviously the flavour of the month at Kilmarnock, and knows he has the club's support. Why risk leaving that for a club that sacks two managers within a few months and appears (from the outside at least) to be all over the place? Seems wildly unlikely.

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

[The Harp Awakes]

I'm convinced. Get him in.

I'm in two minds about McInnes.

I'm totally underwhelmed by the other names being spouted over the last week. Appleton, McKay, and even Mowbray look like appointments which carry a high degree of risk and under any of them we could potentially go into freefall next season.

I don't think McInnes comes with that risk. I'd be pretty certain hed have us in the top 6, if not 4. Having said that I have 2 conerns over him. One is his style of play and secondly his assocation with the old Rangers.

There will be some Hibs fans who won't be bothered by either, but I think these 2 traits mean that a sizeable section of the Hibs support may turn on him in an instant if things start to go badly.

[GreenCastle]

His contract with Killie is till summer 2023.

The question is would Mcinnes be interested or would Hibs approach him?

He’s just won the league so would be buzzing off that and knows Hibs are a mess. He may also feel annoyed he didn’t get considered and Maloney got the last job.

On the other hand if Hibs approach Killie then surely that will go public and if he doesn’t come it looks bad on Hibs part for the next candidate who takes the job…

[SlickShoes]

I'd be massively happy with McInnes - I said at the time that Aberdeen would regret sacking him and they've dropped like a stone down the league since they did. But I really can't see him coming. Why would he? He's obviously the flavour of the month at Kilmarnock, and knows he has the club's support. Why risk leaving that for a club that sacks two managers within a few months and appears (from the outside at least) to be all over the place? Seems wildly unlikely.

I can see where you are coming from but there are three ways the next appointment goes: 1 - we start winning, 2 - we continue to struggle and the manager gets time 3 - we sack another manager quickly and look like a complete basket case of a club.

3 is the least likely now, please if it happens do not quote me haha

I think the Hibs job is massively more interesting than Killie, the budget they had last year will be the biggest budget Killie will ever have as they maintained their SPL budget. There is always so much untapped potential at Hibs it's probably why we keep actually being able to attract people to come here.

Also I live near Killie now and it's a dump.

[sleeping giant]

His contract with Killie is till summer 2023.

The question is would Mcinnes be interested or would Hibs approach him?

He’s just won the league so would be buzzing off that and knows Hibs are a mess. He may also feel annoyed he didn’t get considered and Maloney got the last job.

On the other hand if Hibs approach Killie then surely that will go public and if he doesn’t come it looks bad on Hibs part for the next candidate who takes the job…

I assume he would be sounded out before an approach is made.

[Mcbizz1998]

Hecky, Ross and Maloney.... then McIness?

Do we actually want fans to go to watch Hibs?

If we had actually been allowed in when we were taking 3rd place and reaching latter stages of cups under Ross, we would have had good crowds.

It’s all about winning.

[Mcbizz1998]

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

Emm well it is really is. In every conceivable way.

[GreenCastle]

Emm well it is really is. In every conceivable way.

Killie will need to add new players if they want top 6. That’s there target next season. But having watched them recently they aren’t that far away but have a few older players possibly needing replaced like McGinn.

Hibs need work also and if Hibs were to play Killie tomorrow I’m not sure I would be that confident.

The Killie fans would be annoyed if he left but at the same time least they are back in top league so wouldn’t be as bad.

Wonder if he is on Hibs radar or it’s just message board talk.

Think by the 15th we will know who the new manager will be.

[CapitalGreen]

McInnes averaged 59 goals per season over those 7 seasons.

Hibs have only bettered 59 goals in a season on 3 occasions since the league moved to 38 games per season for 2000/01.

Mowbray - (64) 2004/05 & (61) 2005/06
Lennon - (62) 2017/18

McLeish with Sauzee, Latapy et al. scored 57

Aberdeen Attendances pre McInnes:
09/10 10,461
10/11 9,072
11/12 9,297
12/13 9,615


Aberdeen Attendances with McInnes:
13/14 12,918
14/15 12,837
15/16 13,094
16/17 12,641

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/aberdeen-fc/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/370#

[Since452]

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

We've had a poor season. Even if we were relegated the Hibs job is far, far more prestigious than the Killie job. Always will be.

[SaulGoodman]

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

Aye okay then

[Smartie]

Emm well it is really is. In every conceivable way.

Shaun Maloney would probably argue that Killie and a few more clubs would rank higher than Hibs in the “managerial career progression” stakes.

[Allant1981]

Indeed. Like it or not, the Hibs job at present doesn't really look like a step up from Kilmarnock.

Whit!!

[Mcbizz1998]

Shaun Maloney would probably argue that Killie and a few more clubs would rank higher than Hibs in the “managerial career progression” stakes.

I don’t care what Shaun Maloney would argue. He never progressed because he failed.

[Mainstandman]

What free scoring side did he have?

Over 60 goad with st mirren, over 80 goals with Sunderland and he did alright with us last season as well.

[Smartie]

I don’t care what Shaun Maloney would argue. He never progressed because he failed.

No argument from me there, but I think it would be a bit arrogant for Hibs to think that prospective managers, good candidates, won’t be just a wee bit interested in what happened to our last 2 managers.

You could imagine smaller clubs with an environment geared more towards success might be more appealing than big clubs like Everton or Man Utd. Which is why I don’t think the Hibs / Killie thing is the no brainer many think it is. Or rather, it really f’ing should be.

[He's here!]

Emm well it is really is. In every conceivable way.

Not if we continue on the current trajectory. There's a shambolic feel to the club at the moment and I'm not convinced we won't be struggling near the foot of the table next season no matter who we appoint.

[Since452]

Shaun Maloney would probably argue that Killie and a few more clubs would rank higher than Hibs in the “managerial career progression” stakes.

Shaun Maloney may have done better at a smaller club with less expectations and demands than Hibs. If you have Maloney's record at a club like Hibs you're under serious pressure.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Shaun Maloney may have done better at a smaller club with less expectations and demands than Hibs. If you have Maloney's record at a club like Hibs you're under serious pressure.

Yeah, I would agree. That being said, the board knew they were appointing a novice with no management experience. What did they expect? It takes time for any manager to learn his trade. Their judgement has to be questioned.

[Since452]

Yeah, I would agree. That being said, the board knew they were appointing a novice with no management experience. What did they expect? It takes time for any manager to learn his trade. Their judgement has to be questioned.

Yeah not Maloney's fault. Definitely on us as a club.

[MWHIBBIES]

His contract with Killie is till summer 2023.

The question is would Mcinnes be interested or would Hibs approach him?

He’s just won the league so would be buzzing off that and knows Hibs are a mess. He may also feel annoyed he didn’t get considered and Maloney got the last job.

On the other hand if Hibs approach Killie then surely that will go public and if he doesn’t come it looks bad on Hibs part for the next candidate who takes the job…

Hibs are still better than Killie. He'd be mental to turn us down.

[Jones28]

McInnes averaged a 3rd place finish over a 9 season period with Aberdeen including his seasons where he wasn’t the manager the full season. Jack Ross averaged a 6th place finish at Hibs including the seasons he wasn’t manager for the full season.

McInnes averaged 1.8ppg at Aberdeen. Ross averaged 1.67ppg at Hibs.

McInnes won a trophy at Aberdeen. Ross won no trophies at Hibs.

He’s also managed at a higher level than Jack Ross.

By pretty much every useful measure, McInnes is a better manager than Ross.

DM had a much maybe easier time for 4(?) years in which to build that point difference.

[Jones28]

Hibs are still better than Killie. He'd be mental to turn us down.

I’d be embarrassed if we couldn’t tempt him to ER, and he can bring Murray with him btw.

[Coco Bryce]

It better not be ****ing Derek McInnes!!

[SaulGoodman]

Not if we continue on the current trajectory. There's a shambolic feel to the club at the moment and I'm not convinced we won't be struggling near the foot of the table next season no matter who we appoint.

Tone the hysteria down to a mild panic please

[Smartie]

Hibs are still better than Killie. He'd be mental to turn us down.

He turned down Sevco to stay at Aberdeen.

Was that mental?

Possibly, I can’t remember what sort of state Sevco were in at that time.

[CapitalGreen]

Over 60 goad with st mirren, over 80 goals with Sunderland and he did alright with us last season as well.

I certainly wouldn’t describe last season as free scoring. It was our lowest scoring league season since we got relegated. We scored less league goals last season than we did during Fenlon’s last full season as manager.

[S4uzee]

He turned down Sevco to stay at Aberdeen.

Was that mental?

Possibly, I can’t remember what sort of state Sevco were in at that time.

He didn’t get the reassurances he wanted regarding transfers

[Libby Hibby]

McInnes would be a good shout.

I would be happy if he was appointed.

[CapitalGreen]

No argument from me there, but I think it would be a bit arrogant for Hibs to think that prospective managers, good candidates, won’t be just a wee bit interested in what happened to our last 2 managers.

You could imagine smaller clubs with an environment geared more towards success might be more appealing than big clubs like Everton or Man Utd. Which is why I don’t think the Hibs / Killie thing is the no brainer many think it is. Or rather, it really f’ing should be.

McInnes is Kilmanock’s 5th manager in the last 3 years, if he joined us he’d be our 4th manager over the same period.

[S4uzee]

McInnes would be a good shout.

I would be happy if he was appointed.

If he was appointed like he should’ve been before Maloney, we wouldn’t be looking for another manager and we’d be fighting for 4th

[Steve20]

McInnes had easily the third biggest budget in the league and still finished behind Kilmarnock and Motherwell for 3rd. All while playing horrible horrible football, that made Jack Ross’ football look attacking.

Would be a terrible appointment. But I don’t believe we’re actually interested in him so won’t be a worry.

[Lago]

Hibs are still better than Killie. He'd be mental to turn us down.
Hopefully he won't be asked.

[Libby Hibby]

If he was appointed like he should’ve been before Maloney, we wouldn’t be looking for another manager and we’d be fighting for 4th

100%

[CapitalGreen]

McInnes had easily the third biggest budget in the league and still finished behind Kilmarnock and Motherwell for 3rd. All while playing horrible horrible football, that made Jack Ross’ football look attacking.

Would be a terrible appointment. But I don’t believe we’re actually interested in him so won’t be a worry.

Jack Ross’s Hibs only scored 48 league goals last season, even in his lowest scoring full season McInnes’s Aberdeen scored 51 league goals.

[raeburnhibs]

Hopefully he won't be asked.

we could do so much worse than McInnes; we have done very recently! We would have more chance of punching our weight for once rather than be the consistent underachievers and soft touches we have been for like forever

[blackpoolhibs]

In the one season they were up against each other with comparable sides, Ross pissed all over McInness with league and cup results. We hounded Ross out and now after another disaster, we now want Derek. :faf:

I'd take McInness in a hearbeat, but we should have given Ross more time and perhaps we wont be in this mess, as we all know that you are not allowed a bad season anymore or you are out the door.

[Hibiza]

McInnes : surely not .😞

[Lago]

McInnes : surely not .😞
Yip recycling Scottish managers, can just see it McInnes to Hibs, Jack Ross to Killie, same old same old.

[IberianHibernian]

If he was appointed like he should’ve been before Maloney, we wouldn’t be looking for another manager and we’d be fighting for 4thWith Maloney and a horrendous injury list we would have been 4th at split if Melkerson hadn`t missed sitter v Dundee United or ref had given penalty for foul on Mueller in same game . If McInnes had been appointed in December not sure how results would have gone but with same injuries think probably the same and we`d be stuck with boring football or a hefty compensation bill in summer .

[h185forever]

In my humble opinion we need a Scottish manager who knows Hibs and the current league. If not ….whoever it is will be playing catch up until Xmas and by then his head will be on the block to appease the vociferous amongst our support.

There aren’t many who fit the above bill and even those who do might tell us to do one, and who could blame them.

Anything else is a risk tho and RG seemed to say he was averse to that his time around.

[Dazzjw1875]

Ken what I think it's gonna be McInnes, has totally dropped in betting could just be alot of crap but could also be some inside info and perhaps we've Made a move agreed with Killie a fee and awaiting for Ron to come to have a chat and finalise everything. But hopefully it's crap I'm hoping for Cocu or Appleton

[Silky]

If we had actually been allowed in when we were taking 3rd place and reaching latter stages of cups under Ross, we would have had good crowds.

It’s all about winning.

It's not, apparently. It's about fast, free-flowing attacking football. There were many, many grumblings when we finished 3rd about the football.

[04Sauzee]

Can't see any chat about McInnes to Hibs on the Killie forums

[Alfred E Newman]

Can't see any chat about McInnes to Hibs on the Killie forums

Good.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's not, apparently. It's about fast, free-flowing attacking football. There were many, many grumblings when we finished 3rd about the football.

Seen that about half a dozen times in my lifetime of watching us, it's a myth.

[Hibs90]

McInnes no thanks I'd rather have JR back.

Absolutely no danger I'll be renewing if he's announced.

[18Craig75]

Seen that about half a dozen times in my lifetime of watching us, it's a myth.

An inconvenient truth. I’ve been Mcinness for a while now. Pretty Boy summed it up perfectly earlier in the thread. His Aberdeen team outperformed us for a decade. The fact some posters use the fact that we weren’t in the league when he had most of his success says it all!!!

[bingo70]

It's not, apparently. It's about fast, free-flowing attacking football. There were many, many grumblings when we finished 3rd about the football.

There’s a balance between fast, free flowing attacking football than the dull placid football player under Ross that largely involved giving up possession and hoping Boyle could create or score.

I was one of Ross’s biggest critics when it came to style of football but at no point have I expected us to play like Brazil, I just want to watch a Hibs team play on the front foot, with a bit passion and fire in the belly.

[Brightside]

Seen that about half a dozen times in my lifetime of watching us, it's a myth.

Yep. Actually saw it once with Jack Ross.

[blackpoolhibs]

An inconvenient truth. I’ve been Mcinness for a while now. Pretty Boy summed it up perfectly earlier in the thread. His Aberdeen team outperformed us for a decade. The fact some posters use the fact that we weren’t in the league when he had most of his success says it all!!!

:agree:

[Libby Hibby]

McInnes no thanks I'd rather have JR back.

Absolutely no danger I'll be renewing if he's announced.

Really? Is that not a bit melodramatic?

[NC1875]

If he was appointed like he should’ve been before Maloney, we wouldn’t be looking for another manager and we’d be fighting for 4th

Correct. It should have been him or Alex Neil the last time. Would have saved us a fortune. And we’d have been fighting for a European place rather than playing meaningless games

[Mcbizz1998]

McInnes no thanks I'd rather have JR back.

Absolutely no danger I'll be renewing if he's announced.

Some supporter you are.

[MWHIBBIES]

McInnes no thanks I'd rather have JR back.

Absolutely no danger I'll be renewing if he's announced.

That all it takes? What if we start winning?

[IberianHibernian]

An inconvenient truth. I’ve been Mcinness for a while now. Pretty Boy summed it up perfectly earlier in the thread. His Aberdeen team outperformed us for a decade. The fact some posters use the fact that we weren’t in the league when he had most of his success says it all!!!Surely you have to take into account that several top 3 finishes were when Rangers were not in top division and Hibs , Hearts and Dundee United were struggling ( to put it mildly ) ? Also , was Aberdeen`s cup record with DM impressive ? I seem to remember them being knocked out of both cups by lower league teams like us , QOS and others regularly . With Pat Fenlon , we got to two SC finals in 2 years for example ? How many finals did Aberdeen reach with DM ? Sack a manager cause of boring football , appoint a young manager with new ideas , sack him to appoint another manager with boring manager would be ridiculous but in football anything can happen .

[Alex Trager]

Surely you have to take into account that several top 3 finishes were when Rangers were not in top division and Hibs , Hearts and Dundee United were struggling ( to put it mildly ) ? Also , was Aberdeen`s cup record with DM impressive ? I seem to remember them being knocked out of both cups by lower league teams like us , QOS and others regularly . With Pat Fenlon , we got to two SC finals in 2 years for example ? How many finals did Aberdeen reach with DM ? Sack a manager cause of boring football , appoint a young manager with new ideas , sack him to appoint another manager with boring manager would be ridiculous but in football anything can happen .

I think I read earlier that when the huns returned Aberdeen finished second for the following 2/3 seasons.

He got them to two cup finals in 2016/17

[bingo70]

Derek McInnes wouldn’t be my first choice and I can’t say it gets the juices flowing for me but I can see the attraction to the club and to supporters that only care about results and not about the entertainment.

In terms of improving results he’s probably as close as we can get to a safe bet as he’s a good manager that’ll get us organised and playing to our strengths.

Probably not the left field exciting appointment that I am hoping for but I’ll remain open minded if it is happen.

[Pretty Boy]

Surely you have to take into account that several top 3 finishes were when Rangers were not in top division and Hibs , Hearts and Dundee United were struggling ( to put it mildly ) ? Also , was Aberdeen`s cup record with DM impressive ? I seem to remember them being knocked out of both cups by lower league teams like us , QOS and others regularly . With Pat Fenlon , we got to two SC finals in 2 years for example ? How many finals did Aberdeen reach with DM ? Sack a manager cause of boring football , appoint a young manager with new ideas , sack him to appoint another manager with boring manager would be ridiculous but in football anything can happen .

I'm his full seasons McInnes in the Scottish Cup was:

Semi final - St Johnstone
4th round - Dundee
4th round - Hearts
Runners up - Celtic
Semi final - Motherwell
Semi final - Celtic
Semi final - Celtic


League Cup:

Winners
Semi final - Dundee Utd
3rd round - Hibs
Runners up - Celtic
Quarter final - Motherwell
Runners up - Celtic
Quarter final - Hearts

So in 7 seasons he had a cup win, was a 3 x beaten finalist and 5 x beaten semi finalist. Looks like he'd fit in well at Hibs, good at getting to the latter stages, not so good at clearing those final hurdles.

[Pretty Boy]

I think I read earlier that when the huns returned Aberdeen finished second for the following 2/3 seasons.

He got them to two cup finals in 2016/17

Correct.

One of those seasons was the one we finished like a train under Lennon as well. They won away at Celtic Park on the final day to secure 2nd.

[18Craig75]

Surely you have to take into account that several top 3 finishes were when Rangers were not in top division and Hibs , Hearts and Dundee United were struggling ( to put it mildly ) ? Also , was Aberdeen`s cup record with DM impressive ? I seem to remember them being knocked out of both cups by lower league teams like us , QOS and others regularly . With Pat Fenlon , we got to two SC finals in 2 years for example ? How many finals did Aberdeen reach with DM ? Sack a manager cause of boring football , appoint a young manager with new ideas , sack him to appoint another manager with boring manager would be ridiculous but in football anything can happen .

See Pretty Boys following post. The reason we weren’t in the division to challenge for third was down to gross mismanagement on and off the park. DM oversaw a continued period of success for Aberdeen and rebuilt that team over and over. Also managed through a period of instability off the field in terms of their change of ownership. He ticks a lot of boxes.

Time for Hibs fans to take their head out of the clouds in terms of the “Hibs way” of playing. It’s a myth.

[beensaidbefore]

Yeah, I'm not setting my sights too high now, but I still think we can do better than someone from Lincoln or Peterborough or similar.

Hope so anyway.


I don’t give a **** how we play as long as we win.

I’ll be a lot happier at 6pm on a Saturday night with a 1-0 win than I would be losing a game but playing this mythical Hibs way that I’ve actually seen us play maybe twice in my lifetime.


Better to win ugly than lose pretty.


If we had actually been allowed in when we were taking 3rd place and reaching latter stages of cups under Ross, we would have had good crowds.

It’s all about winning.

What these guys said. :agree:

[tonyrougier123]

No renewing tickets must be a new .net thing 😂.
Mcinness would be a sensible appointment not to say we could get better,but he’d bring at least stability much like McKay.

I think next guy needs to be a sensible approach for us.
Too many gambles over the years that have backfired.

Stubbs got to rebuild completely and done so against lesser opposition allowing a very good side to grow confidence.

Mowbray sprinkled some quality amongst the best group of youngsters we’ve brought through.

Next guy will,if you listened to the owner will be expected to add to this squad which is considered good enough by our set up.

So we will need a players manager,a solid steady eddy and someone who can take a lot of deflection from our support,because we are as divided now as I can remember on most things hibs.

[CapitalGreen]

Derek McInnes wouldn’t be my first choice and I can’t say it gets the juices flowing for me but I can see the attraction to the club and to supporters that only care about results and not about the entertainment.

In terms of improving results he’s probably as close as we can get to a safe bet as he’s a good manager that’ll get us organised and playing to our strengths.

Probably not the left field exciting appointment that I am hoping for but I’ll remain open minded if it is happen.

This pretty much sums it up for me too however I think the unexciting tag is over egged and maybe stems from Aberdeen playing their best stuff when we were out of the league so we didn’t see them as much.

For example in the 16/17 season his team scored 74 league goals, 13 more than Lennon’s hibs did in 17/18. They scored 3+ in 10 league games, and 6+ in 3 league games during that season.

I accept that things had gone stale at Aberdeen by the time he left but I think the boring tag was used by many of ours fans (probably myself included) as comfort blanket because we found them difficult to beat.

[GreenCastle]

Would Aberdeen fans take him back?

Glass was a mess - next season will be massive for Goodwin.