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bingo70
09-05-2022, 09:18 PM
I think Lee Johnson looks a good option on paper, looks to have done well wherever he goes.
Teams are supposedly attacking and score a lot of goals however are prone to conceding.
He’s not someone I can get excited about.
Don’t know much about him but from what I can see he looks a bit ***** tbh. Hope it’s not him.
CL0762
09-05-2022, 09:24 PM
Which would clearly be moronic if that happened. Think he is a decent manager however does have highs and lows.
Agreed but it would happen.
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:24 PM
Fancied Appleton before Ross but still have a hankering for Ronny Deila.
Is Delia at New York red bulls? If so can't see anyway he is coming here from there
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:25 PM
Agreed but it would happen.
Not convinced it would
Coco Bryce
09-05-2022, 09:25 PM
New manager getting right into the job signing David Marshall.
According to the EEN we're not interested in McInnes.Tfft
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offshorehibby
09-05-2022, 09:33 PM
Is Delia at New York red bulls? If so can't see anyway he is coming here from there
He is but you can always dream :greengrin Maybe he fancies getting back to this side of the pond.
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:33 PM
New manager getting right into the job signing David Marshall.
Sounds like he knows what he is doing whoever it is :greengrin
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:34 PM
He is but you can always dream :greengrin Maybe he fancies getting back to this side of the pond.
Indeed :greengrin
LaMotta
09-05-2022, 09:35 PM
Which would clearly be moronic if that happened. Think he is a decent manager however does have highs and lows.
It happened to Heckingbottom and to a lesser extent Ross, and neither of them were Hearts xxxxs!
SteveHFC
09-05-2022, 09:36 PM
Karl Robinson anyone?
leith lynx
09-05-2022, 09:37 PM
It happened to Heckingbottom and to a lesser extent Ross, and neither of them were Hearts xxxxs!
Jack Ross was a coach at Hearts.
Gloucester Hibs
09-05-2022, 09:37 PM
Said Michael O’Neil from the start and I’m
sticking with that! 🤞🏻
04Sauzee
09-05-2022, 09:38 PM
Karl Robinson anyone?
Mentioned him as a good shout yesterday. No info just thought he'd be a good shout.
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:39 PM
Said Michael O’Neil from the start and I’m
sticking with that! 🤞🏻
Hopefully will need to be released by Stoke for it to happen obviously
Unseen work
09-05-2022, 09:39 PM
Karl Robinson
HibeeSince85
09-05-2022, 09:40 PM
Is Delia at New York red bulls? If so can't see anyway he is coming here from there
Nearly. He's at New York City FC. Part of The City group of clubs from Man Citys owners.
Alex Trager
09-05-2022, 09:40 PM
Karl Robinson
Where you seeing this?
JimBHibees
09-05-2022, 09:41 PM
Karl Robinson
Genuine rumour or a hunch
Heisenberg
09-05-2022, 09:41 PM
Karl Robinson
41 page thread on the Oxford forum about his ability or lack thereof if anyone fancies some light reading before bed!
https://yellowsforum.co.uk/threads/robbo-out.7811/page-41
leith lynx
09-05-2022, 09:41 PM
Said Michael O’Neil from the start and I’m
sticking with that! 🤞🏻
Sincerely hope so, bring Steven Fletcher with him as well.
LaMotta
09-05-2022, 09:42 PM
Jack Ross was a coach at Hearts.
That doesn't count:greengrin
B.H.F.C
09-05-2022, 09:42 PM
Genuine rumour or a hunch
Report in The Record.
LaMotta
09-05-2022, 09:44 PM
Karl Robinson anyone?
The names from England being banded about ( Michael O'Neill apart) all have worse records than Heckingbottom, Ross, Alex Neil and McInnes. Worrying times.
WhileTheChief..
09-05-2022, 09:45 PM
Still not seen a name that's got anyone excited.
Are we in for a big surprise?
Like, a nice one I mean!!
GreenCastle
09-05-2022, 09:45 PM
Watched a few interviews with Robinson on YouTube - definitely a character in the interviews. Not sure how to take some of his comments.
JohnM1875
09-05-2022, 09:48 PM
Report in The Record.
"Hibs will begin interviews for their vacant manager’s post this week - but Derek McInnes has not made Ron Gordon’s shortlist.
Record Sport understands there is interest in Oxford United boss Karl Robinson from Easter Road.
But Kilmarnock boss McInnes will not be in the running despite shooting to the top of the bookies’ favourites over the weekend following his title success at Rugby Park.
There has been no contact between Hibs chiefs and Killie or McInnes.
And after discussions to step up the manager hunt at Easter Road over the past 24 hours, owner Gordon has decided not to pursue the former Aberdeen manager.
The Hibs supremo flew in to Scotland on Saturday and took in the 1-1 draw with Aberdeen before addressing the players in the dressing room afterwards and holding separate talks with interim boss David Gray.
One name believed to be of serious interest to Hibs as they hunt Shaun Maloney ’s successor is that of Robinson who guided Oxford to an eighth place finish in League 1 this season.
The 41-year-old has been in charge of The U’s since 2018 having previously managed Charlton and MK Dons and is seen as one of the brightest young managers in the lower leagues down south.
Hibs are set to open the official interview process in the coming days after Gordon’s recruitment chief son Ian and chief executive Ben Kensell spent the best part of two weeks speaking to targets down south.
They are also looking at the foreign market while closer to home Ross County boss Malky Mackay and recently departed Lincoln City manager Michael Appleton have been strongly linked with the job.
Interim boss Gray will continue in charge for the final two matches of the season starting away to Dundee this evening.
The 34-year-old Hibees hero has been given no assurances over his own long-term future by Gordon.
But he said: “We briefly caught up after the game on Saturday, he flew in just beforehand and hadn’t slept much.
“It was a catch up more than anything. He’s going to be very busy in the next few days as are we preparing for the two games.
“It’s myself and Eddie until the end of the season and that’s not going to change.
“Whether something happens in between then is entirely up to the club and the board moving forward.
“The message has always been that they will take their time to make the right appointment which I’m sure they will do.
"My future can wait until they know exactly what's happening.
"It's still a wee bit up in the air but as far as I'm concerned I've got a job to do between now and the end of the season, and I'll continue to do that to the best of my ability until I'm told to do something different.
"The new manager will have his own ideas.
"I've always said it's a fantastic club, it's got an incredible fanbase, it's a fantastic city, great facilities, a great stadium, and a really good squad of players at the moment.
“With a few additions - and the new manager will have one or two ideas - success will just be around the corner for the club.
"It's a really attractive job which is why there have been so many big names linked with the club and I expect there to be so until the new man has been appointed."
Alex Trager
09-05-2022, 09:51 PM
"Hibs will begin interviews for their vacant manager’s post this week - but Derek McInnes has not made Ron Gordon’s shortlist.
Record Sport understands there is interest in Oxford United boss Karl Robinson from Easter Road.
But Kilmarnock boss McInnes will not be in the running despite shooting to the top of the bookies’ favourites over the weekend following his title success at Rugby Park.
There has been no contact between Hibs chiefs and Killie or McInnes.
And after discussions to step up the manager hunt at Easter Road over the past 24 hours, owner Gordon has decided not to pursue the former Aberdeen manager.
The Hibs supremo flew in to Scotland on Saturday and took in the 1-1 draw with Aberdeen before addressing the players in the dressing room afterwards and holding separate talks with interim boss David Gray.
One name believed to be of serious interest to Hibs as they hunt Shaun Maloney ’s successor is that of Robinson who guided Oxford to an eighth place finish in League 1 this season.
The 41-year-old has been in charge of The U’s since 2018 having previously managed Charlton and MK Dons and is seen as one of the brightest young managers in the lower leagues down south.
Hibs are set to open the official interview process in the coming days after Gordon’s recruitment chief son Ian and chief executive Ben Kensell spent the best part of two weeks speaking to targets down south.
They are also looking at the foreign market while closer to home Ross County boss Malky Mackay and recently departed Lincoln City manager Michael Appleton have been strongly linked with the job.
Interim boss Gray will continue in charge for the final two matches of the season starting away to Dundee this evening.
The 34-year-old Hibees hero has been given no assurances over his own long-term future by Gordon.
But he said: “We briefly caught up after the game on Saturday, he flew in just beforehand and hadn’t slept much.
“It was a catch up more than anything. He’s going to be very busy in the next few days as are we preparing for the two games.
“It’s myself and Eddie until the end of the season and that’s not going to change.
“Whether something happens in between then is entirely up to the club and the board moving forward.
“The message has always been that they will take their time to make the right appointment which I’m sure they will do.
"My future can wait until they know exactly what's happening.
"It's still a wee bit up in the air but as far as I'm concerned I've got a job to do between now and the end of the season, and I'll continue to do that to the best of my ability until I'm told to do something different.
"The new manager will have his own ideas.
"I've always said it's a fantastic club, it's got an incredible fanbase, it's a fantastic city, great facilities, a great stadium, and a really good squad of players at the moment.
“With a few additions - and the new manager will have one or two ideas - success will just be around the corner for the club.
"It's a really attractive job which is why there have been so many big names linked with the club and I expect there to be so until the new man has been appointed."
How can he think that these are better than McInnes?
I’ll wait and see but it’s not looking great
04Sauzee
09-05-2022, 09:54 PM
Oxford joint highest goalscorers in the league with Wigan with 82 goals. Obviously his team likes a goal or 2
GreenCastle
09-05-2022, 09:54 PM
Robinson seems to have played 4 at the back then 3.
Reading the comments about him seems he assembled an unbalanced squad - lots of attackers and not many defenders.
He’s still pretty young (41)and many think he needed a DOF type alongside him.
Seems QPR also maybe interested in him.
bingo70
09-05-2022, 09:57 PM
Robinson seems to have played 4 at the back then 3.
Reading the comments about him seems he assembled an unbalanced squad - lots of attackers and not many defenders.
He’s still pretty young (41)and many think he needed a DOF type alongside him.
Seems QPR also maybe interested in him.
Anybody know why he failed at Charlton?
leith lynx
09-05-2022, 09:57 PM
Watched a few interviews with Robinson on YouTube - definitely a character in the interviews.
Yes, seems the polar opposite of a Jack Ross type of personality, always got a smile on his face, decent record down south, we could do a lot worse.
Unseen work
09-05-2022, 10:01 PM
Interesting seeing a manager be so honest https://youtu.be/xAvCRg3c8HI
Wonder what he would say about our squad 😅
Alex Trager
09-05-2022, 10:02 PM
Seems a lot of Blackburn Rovers and QPR fans are wuite keen to get KR in
Gordy M
09-05-2022, 10:05 PM
Seems a lot of Blackburn Rovers and QPR fans are wuite keen to get KR in
He def has a better reputation down south than Derek McInnes
bingo70
09-05-2022, 10:10 PM
Interesting seeing a manager be so honest https://youtu.be/xAvCRg3c8HI
Wonder what he would say about our squad 😅
Not sure if I liked that to be honest.
“I need to take responsibility so it’s down to me as well but it’s not really my fault, it’s the players”
In saying that, I’ve moaned the last few managers have been media trained to an inch of their lives, he’s certainly not been so maybe i should just appreciate the honesty and stop moaning.
CapitalGreen
09-05-2022, 10:21 PM
Average 4.5 years with each club and his teams score a decent amount of goals which are both plus points for me. Over his career his teams have averaged 1.62 goals per game, if he could replicate that here over a league season it would surpass Lennon’s 2017/18 Hibs team.
GreenCastle
09-05-2022, 10:22 PM
Interesting seeing a manager be so honest https://youtu.be/xAvCRg3c8HI
Wonder what he would say about our squad 😅
Yeah there are quite a few examples of these type of interviews. Not sure how long it would last with players.
Definitely seems a character and if winning will be great but being too honest can nearly be a problem in itself.
B.H.F.C
09-05-2022, 10:29 PM
Obviously don’t know how much there is in the link to Robinson, but think that’s the kind of level (lower league down south) the next manager will come from.
JamesHFC
09-05-2022, 10:36 PM
Wouldn’t mind Robinson, could probably do a decent job here.
Gordy M
09-05-2022, 10:38 PM
Obviously don’t know how much there is in the link to Robinson, but think that’s the kind of level (lower league down south) the next manager will come from.
The only issue I have with these types of managers is that they seem to underestimate the game up here and what is required. It’s happened before when they arrive and sign players from lower leagues in England thinking they are good enough for up here…….when they clearly are not. It’s happened at a few clubs up here including us.
HendoDelivered
09-05-2022, 10:39 PM
The only issue I have with these types of managers is that they seem to underestimate the game up here and what is required. It’s happened before when they arrive and sign players from lower leagues in England thinking they are good enough for up here…….when they clearly are not. It’s happened at a few clubs up here including us.
:agree:
Vault Boy
09-05-2022, 10:47 PM
I'd be excited by Robinson.
Plenty of coaching experience despite his age and he's an engaging character. Seems to tick a lot of boxes for what we need just now.
Our last Scouse manager did alright too.
AdidasHibernian
09-05-2022, 10:56 PM
I wouldn't mind Robinson.
Personally be my choice ahead of most that's been touted for job
Unseen work
09-05-2022, 10:58 PM
I get the comments about how is honest comments in interviews could effect the players which they probably would if it was weekly.
But reading about him it seems like players like him and his management team, he seems to be a bit like Lennon in that sense.
He also seems to go all out attack and has a habit of turning wingers into full backs to make them more offensive (to the annoyance of some fans who would prefer someone who knows the position as it makes them weak defensively).
But he looks the type that would add a bit of personality and make the team attack at all costs which I would say the vast majority would get behind.
We might concede some goals or look poor defensively at times but as a fan set I think a lot are willing to take this risk if the team has a go which by the sounds of it his do.
davhibby
09-05-2022, 11:17 PM
I’ve always quite liked Robinson from what I’ve seen and heard. No idea how he’d get on here but at least I don’t think the football would be boring.
500miles
09-05-2022, 11:53 PM
Interesting seeing a manager be so honest https://youtu.be/xAvCRg3c8HI
Wonder what he would say about our squad 😅
Probably something stupid and petulant like that 10 minute clip there. Embarrassing. Next.
BegbieHSC
10-05-2022, 12:08 AM
Michael O’Neill would be fantastic, but I’m not seeing any sources, so definitely not getting my hopes up.
Ngl, since the Roy Keane rumours died down, the standard of managers linked have been so uninspiring/borderline appalling. In what way are the likes of Appleton, or Karl Robinson going to inspire a boost to really poor season ticket sales? Malky Mackay is so divisive, and would completely split the support, so for that reason I wouldn’t go for him. He’s the most capable manager we’ve been linked with however.
Hoping and praying the club can pull a rabbit out the hat in these interviews, with an actually decent, respected manager’s name being kept under wraps.
I know this is negative, but I’m dreaming of a Michael O’Neill, amidst all the dross we’ve been linked to.
cameronw-hfc
10-05-2022, 12:31 AM
Michael O’Neill would be fantastic, but I’m not seeing any sources, so definitely not getting my hopes up.
Ngl, since the Roy Keane rumours died down, the standard of managers linked have been so uninspiring/borderline appalling. In what way are the likes of Appleton, or Karl Robinson going to inspire a boost to really poor season ticket sales? Malky Mackay is so divisive, and would completely split the support, so for that reason I wouldn’t go for him. He’s the most capable manager we’ve been linked with however.
Hoping and praying the club can pull a rabbit out the hat in these interviews, with an actually decent, respected manager’s name being kept under wraps.
I know this is negative, but I’m dreaming of a Michael O’Neill, amidst all the dross we’ve been linked to.
I wanted O'Neill but backtracked after reading a Stoke forum. They were complaining he's one dimensional and is persisting with getting players to pass out from the back that can't do it.
Didn't fill me with much hope after that for him being a great appointment.
offshorehibby
10-05-2022, 12:46 AM
I wanted O'Neil away back prior to Pat Fenlon but he seems to have been a bit of a hit and a miss with Stoke playing a rather defensive style of football, so he's not my cup of tea now.
I can't get my head round people only wanting a manager who will sell season tickets even though that manager might be pants.
A manager winning games playing decent football will bring in crowds.
I'm still in the Applton camp.
tonyrougier123
10-05-2022, 01:02 AM
Robinson might be an interesting appointment,his Oxford side very attacking though.few decent players in that team also.could dip in to that hopefully.
Forza Fred
10-05-2022, 01:15 AM
Mrs Gordon?
Alex Trager
10-05-2022, 04:48 AM
Michael O’Neill would be fantastic, but I’m not seeing any sources, so definitely not getting my hopes up.
Ngl, since the Roy Keane rumours died down, the standard of managers linked have been so uninspiring/borderline appalling. In what way are the likes of Appleton, or Karl Robinson going to inspire a boost to really poor season ticket sales? Malky Mackay is so divisive, and would completely split the support, so for that reason I wouldn’t go for him. He’s the most capable manager we’ve been linked with however.
Hoping and praying the club can pull a rabbit out the hat in these interviews, with an actually decent, respected manager’s name being kept under wraps.
I know this is negative, but I’m dreaming of a Michael O’Neill, amidst all the dross we’ve been linked to.
I don’t want O’Neill but have to agree with this on the whole. Expect that I wanted DM.
Someone else has mentioned it, but any of the English League 1 types I would say need a strong DOF or someone who knows the Scottish game really well as his number two.
We can’t end up with someone underestimating the Scottish game again.
This doesn’t excite me at all unfortunately. In fact it concerns me. I’m really hoping for a big rabbit out the hat but expecting the opposite.
Since452
10-05-2022, 05:36 AM
I'm a bit concerned if he thinks Karl Robinson is a better option than McInnes. Guess we wait.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 05:42 AM
I'm a bit concerned if he thinks Karl Robinson is a better option than McInnes. Guess we wait.
That’s a bit of a black and white view on it. There’ll be some things each manager is better at.
Also doesn’t take into account we possibly out the feelers out for Mcinnes and found out he wasn’t keen.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 05:45 AM
That’s a bit of a black and white view on it. There’ll be some things each manager is better at.
Also doesn’t take into account we possibly out the feelers out for Mcinnes and found out he wasn’t keen.
Yes likely Mcinnes happy where he is especially when we could have spoke to him 5 months ago when he wasn't working.
Crunchie
10-05-2022, 05:52 AM
Yes likely Mcinnes happy where he is especially when we could have spoke to him 5 months ago when he wasn't working.
Whoever it is IHTF we give him a chance, this internet thing has a lot to answer for. Mowbray would be the man for me.
Greenworld
10-05-2022, 06:57 AM
I wanted O'Neil away back prior to Pat Fenlon but he seems to have been a bit of a hit and a miss with Stoke playing a rather defensive style of football, so he's not my cup of tea now.
I can't get my head round people only wanting a manager who will sell season tickets even though that manager might be pants.
A manager winning games playing decent football will bring in crowds.
I'm still in the Applton camp.I looked at Appleton stats for previous teams and don't see what he would bring to hibs. A very mediocre manager from a performance level . I think we could do a lot better.
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Since452
10-05-2022, 07:00 AM
That’s a bit of a black and white view on it. There’ll be some things each manager is better at.
Also doesn’t take into account we possibly out the feelers out for Mcinnes and found out he wasn’t keen.
Probably. There's always things going on in the background. Put it this way, when Mowbray was appointed I was seriously underwhelmed. That turned out alright. Just need to see what happens.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 07:00 AM
I wanted O'Neil away back prior to Pat Fenlon but he seems to have been a bit of a hit and a miss with Stoke playing a rather defensive style of football, so he's not my cup of tea now.
I can't get my head round people only wanting a manager who will sell season tickets even though that manager might be pants.
A manager winning games playing decent football will bring in crowds.
I'm still in the Applton camp.
But Appleton might be pants and not win games playing decent football. At least an exciting name comes with a gurantee of selling more tickets.
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 07:06 AM
But Appleton might be pants and not win games playing decent football. At least an exciting name comes with a gurantee of selling more tickets.For about 5 minutes before folk realise the teams still crap
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AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 07:22 AM
Mcinnes wouldn’t take the the job, regardless if we have approached him or not.
Also noted that Gray's future at the club is uncertain going by what he said, don't know what everyone else feels about that, I have no clue to his coaching ability.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 07:27 AM
I'm a bit concerned if he thinks Karl Robinson is a better option than McInnes. Guess we wait.
He certainly has a mixed record at Oxford. He's one of the favourites for the QPR job.
GloryGlory
10-05-2022, 07:27 AM
Also noted that Gray's future at the club is uncertain going by what he said, don't know what everyone else feels about that, I have no clue to his coaching ability.
If he wants to have a coaching career it may be good for his development if he goes elsewhere to pick up experience and move up the managerial ladder.
OldEast
10-05-2022, 07:30 AM
Also noted that Gray's future at the club is uncertain going by what he said, don't know what everyone else feels about that, I have no clue to his coaching ability.
He should build his coaching experience by moving elsewhere. I see him having less and less input at Hibs. Are all new managers going to be told "you must work with David Gray" Don't think so.
If he wants to have a coaching career it may be good for his development if he goes elsewhere to pick up experience and move up the managerial ladder.
That's what I was getting at, many fans adore him for that goal and he's now moved to a coaching role but is he any good at that? Does he need to move on for his own career.
superfurryhibby
10-05-2022, 07:49 AM
Mcinnes wouldn’t take the the job, regardless if we have approached him or not.
I think he would, if we asked him nicely.
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 07:51 AM
I think he would, if we asked him nicely.
Unfortunately he wouldn’t.
04Sauzee
10-05-2022, 07:54 AM
Unfortunately he wouldn’t.
I think he would.
Happy it looks like we haven't.
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 07:56 AM
I think he would.
Happy it looks like we haven't.
We have asked.
04Sauzee
10-05-2022, 07:59 AM
We have asked.
Fair enough If that's what you have heard. I heard differently which is why I'd think he'd have said yes if we had asked.
Fair enough though .
Mick O'Rourke
10-05-2022, 08:07 AM
Also noted that Gray's future at the club is uncertain going by what he said, don't know what everyone else feels about that, I have no clue to his coaching ability.
When David retired from playing,he was still contracted to the club.I think he has a year left on that agreement.
Of course,a new gaffer may not want him on his staff,but then the club may give David another role outside of first team squad.
Just like Eddie May.
John Kennedy at Celtic,who has had scouting and coaching roles there for about ten years,has seen a few gaffers come and go at Celtic Park!
Current names listed ,i wouldnt mind Tony Mowbray coming back.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2022, 08:17 AM
I looked at Appleton stats for previous teams and don't see what he would bring to hibs. A very mediocre manager from a performance level . I think we could do a lot better.
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Did you simply looking at the top level stats or did you also seek to understand the context in which those stats were achieved? If it’s the latter, I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion he is a mediocre manager.
SlickShoes
10-05-2022, 08:19 AM
Michael O’Neill would be fantastic, but I’m not seeing any sources, so definitely not getting my hopes up.
Ngl, since the Roy Keane rumours died down, the standard of managers linked have been so uninspiring/borderline appalling. In what way are the likes of Appleton, or Karl Robinson going to inspire a boost to really poor season ticket sales? Malky Mackay is so divisive, and would completely split the support, so for that reason I wouldn’t go for him. He’s the most capable manager we’ve been linked with however.
Hoping and praying the club can pull a rabbit out the hat in these interviews, with an actually decent, respected manager’s name being kept under wraps.
I know this is negative, but I’m dreaming of a Michael O’Neill, amidst all the dross we’ve been linked to.
So Roy Keane is world class crowd pleaser with barely any managerial experience and managers with experience at a level similar to ours are appalling?
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 08:28 AM
For about 5 minutes before folk realise the teams still crap
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Well no, because if we sell more season tickets then the seats will be sold for a season.:wink:
And you don't know the team will be crap with a name and you don't know the team will be any better with less of a name.
04Sauzee
10-05-2022, 08:29 AM
Well no, because if we sell more season tickets then the seats will be sold for a season.:wink:
And you don't know the team will be crap with a name and you don't know the team will be any better with less of a name.
It's not really the process of picking a manager though eh?
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 08:30 AM
Well no, because if we sell more season tickets then the seats will be sold for a season.:wink:
And you don't know the team will be crap with a name and you don't know the team will be any better with less of a name.Depends whst you mean by 'a name'
I'd rather have the best manager for the job regardless if it's Ronald Koeman or Jimmy McLeith
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Onceinawhile
10-05-2022, 08:32 AM
That's what I was getting at, many fans adore him for that goal and he's now moved to a coaching role but is he any good at that? Does he need to move on for his own career.
SDG did a bit of coaching for a company called Planet Soccer out my way for a few months, maybe 6-9 months back. As part of that he did defender specific training for sort of 8-12 year olds. Because my son was doing that training, I watched quite a few sessions and they were pretty good.
How he translates that to actual adult football training and taking a full squad, who knows.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 08:34 AM
Depends whst you mean by 'a name'
I'd rather have the best manager for the job regardless if it's Ronald Koeman or Jimmy McLeith
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Exactly.
But the previous poster was claiming that people only wanted a manager because of the name and that they didnt care about results. He was making out that if we got a name then they would automatically be pants.
That's not how it works. We could get a bigger name manager and he might do well in addition to us selling more tickets on the back of his name.
Mick O'Rourke
10-05-2022, 08:35 AM
Depends whst you mean by 'a name'
I'd rather have the best manager for the job regardless if it's Ronald Koeman or Jimmy McLeith
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Is he related to Alex McLeith ?
Sorry,excuse my lisp :talkh:
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 08:37 AM
It's not really the process of picking a manager though eh?
You don't think the owners of clubs consider what fans reaction might be to appointing a new manager? Of course they do. It's not the only thing or the most important thing, but it matters.
badabing67
10-05-2022, 08:39 AM
Looks like Mowbray is out of running as well now
https://the72.co.uk/272756/tony-mowbray-rules-out-return-to-scottish-football-amid-hibernian-links/
Johnny_Leith
10-05-2022, 08:39 AM
You don't think the owners of clubs consider what fans reaction might be to appointing a new manager? Of course they do. It's not the only thing or the most important thing, but it matters.
Everton picked Lampard over the other candidate (who's name escapes me) due to fan opinion/protest.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/26/vitor-pereira-defends-record-in-attempt-to-placate-everton-fans
chrisski33
10-05-2022, 08:40 AM
Looks like Mowbray is out of running as well now
https://the72.co.uk/272756/tony-mowbray-rules-out-return-to-scottish-football-amid-hibernian-links/
No surprise
Since452
10-05-2022, 08:44 AM
Also noted that Gray's future at the club is uncertain going by what he said, don't know what everyone else feels about that, I have no clue to his coaching ability.
I absolutley loved SDG playing for us. Brilliant captian and always felt like the team was better with him in it. Drove us on when we needed it the most. Oh how we could have done with a David Gray on the park this season. BUT. I want the best coaches possible at the club and like you i don't know know if that's him. If the new manager comes in and wants his own people in place then fair enough.
leith lynx
10-05-2022, 08:47 AM
Wonder if Billy Reid is on the shortlist? gained good experience since leaving Hamilton.
Mick O'Rourke
10-05-2022, 08:50 AM
You don't think the owners of clubs consider what fans reaction might be to appointing a new manager? Of course they do. It's not the only thing or the most important thing, but it matters.
The owner has not missed out on seeing the empty seats in the stands and knows how important the next appointment to getting supporters back to the ground.
Whoever makes the final decision,i hope senior players/coaches will be consulted.
By that i mean the likes of Paul,Lewey, Darren David and Eddie,who will, more than the board, know how fans will react to "the next guy" .
We all want all appointments to be the right one.
After Jack and Shaun, this one needs to get the fans backing right away.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 08:50 AM
Looks like Mowbray is out of running as well now
https://the72.co.uk/272756/tony-mowbray-rules-out-return-to-scottish-football-amid-hibernian-links/
Good that he’s clarified that, was never realistic (even if it would have been brilliant).
Hopefully that’ll stop people suggesting him. Delia and Knutsen next please 😉
Northernhibee
10-05-2022, 08:51 AM
Good that he’s clarified that, was never realistic (even if it would have been brilliant).
Hopefully that’ll stop people suggesting him. Delia and Knutsen next please 😉
Football would be terrible but at least the pie stands would be absolutely ****ing banging.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 08:53 AM
Football would be terrible but at least the pie stands would be absolutely ****ing banging.
"Let's be having you" 🤣 🤣
Unfortunately he wouldn’t.
I couldn't care less if he wouldn't
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 09:06 AM
Everton picked Lampard over the other candidate (who's name escapes me) due to fan opinion/protest.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/26/vitor-pereira-defends-record-in-attempt-to-placate-everton-fans
Didn't know that cheers - backs up my point :greengrin
The owner has not missed out on seeing the empty seats in the stands and knows how important the next appointment to getting supporters back to the ground.
Whoever makes the final decision,i hope senior players/coaches will be consulted.
By that i mean the likes of Paul,Lewey, Darren David and Eddie,who will, more than the board, know how fans will react to "the next guy" .
We all want all appointments to be the right one.
After Jack and Shaun, this one needs to get the fans backing right away.
Agree with all that Mick.
leith lynx
10-05-2022, 09:10 AM
Football would be terrible but at least the pie stands would be absolutely ****ing banging.
Is that what you would call a "faux-pie"🙂
Percy Vere
10-05-2022, 09:19 AM
I'm a bit concerned if he thinks Karl Robinson is a better option than McInnes. Guess we wait.
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do better
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 09:22 AM
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do betterI think saying it's isn't the whole story is a gross understatement [emoji23]
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Unseen work
10-05-2022, 09:23 AM
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do better
It all depends on the team/league they’re in though.
You could argue Mcinnes managed once in England and got 26% win rate where as Robinson’s has never been that low, maybe he’d be as high as Mcinnes in Scotland?
The Wireless
10-05-2022, 09:26 AM
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do better
Nothing wrong with taking time as the candidates urny very good. 🫤 Rather wait and get the right man I suppose. Oh by the way the publicity about the recruitment committee was bad timing.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2022, 09:38 AM
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do better
Sure if you ignore all context. When McInnes was manager in England like Robinson, his win percentage was just 27% but this also ignores the context in which he took over at Bristol City.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 09:45 AM
Unfortunately he wouldn’t.
Why not?
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 09:47 AM
Whoever it is IHTF we give him a chance, this internet thing has a lot to answer for. Mowbray would be the man for me.
Couldn't agree more
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 09:47 AM
Why not?
Doesn’t want to work under Gordon.
WhileTheChief..
10-05-2022, 09:51 AM
You don't think the owners of clubs consider what fans reaction might be to appointing a new manager? Of course they do. It's not the only thing or the most important thing, but it matters.
I think this time around it 100% matters what the fans think.
There's a massive disconnect between the club and fanbase just now. Apathy has been swirling around our club for 18 months or so.
We absolutely need someone to put a bit of life back into things.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 09:52 AM
Doesn’t want to work under Gordon.
You convinced that is the reason
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 09:53 AM
You convinced that is the reason
Absolutely. Don’t have many sources in football but this one couldn’t be closer unless it came from mcinnes himself.
King Cosell
10-05-2022, 09:59 AM
Just need to look at their Managerial stats.
McInnes averaging 50 odd percent wins.
Robinson low 40s.
I know that’s not the whole story but it’s got to be relevant.
Cmon Hibs… must do better
Ally McCoist - 72.46%
Eddie Howe - 41.86%
Since452
10-05-2022, 10:00 AM
Doesn’t want to work under Gordon.
But would work under Billy Bowie? Pot Kettle.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 10:12 AM
Absolutely. Don’t have many sources in football but this one couldn’t be closer unless it came from mcinnes himself.
A tad worrying that to be honest.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 10:20 AM
I think this time around it 100% matters what the fans think.
There's a massive disconnect between the club and fanbase just now. Apathy has been swirling around our club for 18 months or so.
We absolutely need someone to put a bit of life back into things.
Keane is the name who I think has clearly had most excitement generated by the fans. There were of course some objectors but very much in the minority based on comments and twitter polls.
Club didn't seem to pay much attention to that if reports are true they never spoke to him.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 10:22 AM
Doesn’t want to work under Gordon.
What a load of rubbish, sorry but it is and shouldn’t be spread the way you are.
Concerns about the owner may be one factor but I’m going tk guess he’s not even had a conversation with the guy so the idea he would rule the job out solely on that basis is just a nonsense. If he had reservations about Gordon he’d have met with him to judge for himself.
The actual truth is far more likely to be that he’s in a job he’s happy with just now, after being out the game longer than he expected he’s probably just enjoying being back involved in a day to day basis again and wouldn’t need the hassle of possible further upheaval when he’s enjoying the job he’s in.
I know there’s a free for all on the Gordon’s just now and I would hazard a guess you don’t like them, the idea that McInnes would turn the job down purely because of rumours about Gordon is just rubbish though.
If there were other factors, you should have said them as well instead of trying to paint a picture that Gordon is some sort of tyrant that people won’t work for.
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 10:23 AM
What a load of rubbish, sorry but it is and shouldn’t be spread the way you are.
Concerns about the owner may be one factor but I’m going tk guess he’s not even had a conversation with the guy so the idea he would rule the job out solely on that basis is just a nonsense. If he had reservations about Gordon he’d have met with him to judge for himself.
The actual truth is far more likely to be that he’s in a job he’s happy with just now, after being out the game longer than he expected he’s probably just enjoying being back involved in a day to day basis again and wouldn’t need the hassle of possible further upheaval when he’s enjoying the job he’s in.
I know there’s a free for all on the Gordon’s just now and I would hazard a guess you don’t like them, the idea that McInnes would turn the job down purely because of rumours about Gordon is just rubbish though.
If there were other factors, you should have said them as well instead of trying to paint a picture that Gordon is some sort of tyrant that people won’t work for.
Haha, not even reading the rest after the first line.
It 100% isn’t rubbish.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2022, 10:23 AM
Keane is the name who I think has clearly had most excitement generated by the fans. There were of course some objectors but very much in the minority based on comments and twitter polls.
Club didn't seem to pay much attention to that if reports are true they never spoke to him.
Twitter polls are not representative of the Hibs support, they are only representative of the Hibs support that use Twitter.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 10:28 AM
Twitter polls are not representative of the Hibs support, they are only representative of the Hibs support that use Twitter.
The poll in question was from a hibs fans account and had nearly 1000 responses. Whilst of course not perfect, in the absence of anything else it's as close to gauging opinion as anything there is.
You were def in the minority in being against Keane being the Hibs manager. It was clear from the number of comments on Hibs.Net as well.
easty
10-05-2022, 10:29 AM
I don't even think Derek McInnes would recognise Ron Gordon in the street. He'll know next to nothing about him. Laughable to suggest he'd not take the Hibs job. Laughable.
Hibbyradge
10-05-2022, 10:30 AM
Haha, not even reading the rest after the first line.
It 100% isn’t rubbish.
In that case, we've dodged a bullet.
If a manager lacks so much confidence in his own ability that he's scared to work for someone who demands success, then he's no use to us anyway.
04Sauzee
10-05-2022, 10:30 AM
The poll in question was from a hibs fans account and had nearly 1000 responses. Whilst of course not perfect, in the absence of anything else it's as close to gauging opinion as anything there is.
You were def in the minority in being against Keane being the Hibs manager. It was clear from the number of comments on Hibs.Net as well.
You don't have to be a Hibs fan to vote on one of those polls though, I'm sure fans of other teams like to have a laugh on those polls.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 10:33 AM
I don't even think Derek McInnes would recognise Ron Gordon in the street. He'll know next to nothing about him. Laughable to suggest he'd not take the Hibs job. Laughable.
In that case, we've dodged a bullet.
If a manager lacks so much confidence in his own ability that he's scared to work for someone who demand success, then he's no use to us anyway.
Or it is possible he has heard stories from Jack Ross"s time that he didn't like. McInnes will no doubt have been scarred by his time under Dave Cormack at Aberdeen - don't think we can rule out that he could be put off a club by an owner.
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 10:37 AM
You don't have to be a Hibs fan to vote on one of those polls though, I'm sure fans of other teams like to have a laugh on those polls.
Yes you are right mate, but majority of people voting will be Hibs fans. As I said its not perfect, but there isnt really a better way of gauging opinion.
Similar Derek McInnes poll had 45% of respondents not wanting him. Keane one had only 17% not wanting him. Even taking in to account rogue voters, the results are clear. And it was backed up by comments on here too.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 10:40 AM
Haha, not even reading the rest after the first line.
It 100% isn’t rubbish.
Ok then, is it balanced?
The only reason he isn’t wanting the Hibs job is because of Gordon? Bet the Killie fans would be delighted with that.
Is he not maybe enjoying his job where he is currently? Is that maybe a factor too?
Hibbyradge
10-05-2022, 10:44 AM
Or it is possible he has heard stories from Jack Ross"s time that he didn't like. McInnes will no doubt have been scarred by his time under Dave Cormack at Aberdeen - don't think we can rule out that he could be put off a club by an owner.
If he makes judgements based on second hand information rather than finding out for himself, again, we're better off without him.
Of course, he may be friendly with JR or Maloney and doesn't want to work for someone who hurt the feelings of his friend, but that's the behaviour of a teenager not a professional football manager.
I doubt Hibs have even spoken to him and given that the information is third hand, I'm not giving it too much credibility.
What a load of rubbish, sorry but it is and shouldn’t be spread the way you are.
Concerns about the owner may be one factor but I’m going tk guess he’s not even had a conversation with the guy so the idea he would rule the job out solely on that basis is just a nonsense. If he had reservations about Gordon he’d have met with him to judge for himself.
The actual truth is far more likely to be that he’s in a job he’s happy with just now, after being out the game longer than he expected he’s probably just enjoying being back involved in a day to day basis again and wouldn’t need the hassle of possible further upheaval when he’s enjoying the job he’s in.
I know there’s a free for all on the Gordon’s just now and I would hazard a guess you don’t like them, the idea that McInnes would turn the job down purely because of rumours about Gordon is just rubbish though.
If there were other factors, you should have said them as well instead of trying to paint a picture that Gordon is some sort of tyrant that people won’t work for.
What an excellent response, well said, too much skuttle butt getting put on here as gospel. Let's be honest no matter who gets appointed some section of the support will be unhappy and take to their keyboards to protest.
Percy Vere
10-05-2022, 10:46 AM
Ally McCoist - 72.46%
Eddie Howe - 41.86%
Nicely done 😂
Or it is possible he has heard stories from Jack Ross"s time that he didn't like. McInnes will no doubt have been scarred by his time under Dave Cormack at Aberdeen - don't think we can rule out that he could be put off a club by an owner.
Could it be Cormack had words with Gordon and warned him off McInnes?
AugustaHibs
10-05-2022, 10:49 AM
If he makes judgements based on second hand information rather than finding out for himself, again, we're better off without him.
Of course, he may be friendly with JR or Maloney and doesn't want to work for someone who hurt the feelings of his friend, but that's the behaviour of a teenager not a professional football manager.
I doubt Hibs have even spoken to him and given that the information is third hand, I'm not giving it too much credibility.
I’m almost certain that mcinnes has far greater means of finding out how working under ron Gordon is than us lot on a forum.
As I said, what I’m hearing is 100% correct. I’m not making it up as a way to bash RG. The more I think about it the more I believe he made the correct decision in binning maloney so promptly.
We will see what happens with the next manager but I’m hoping it’s someone that everyone can get behind. (Fat chance of that however)
WeeRussell
10-05-2022, 10:50 AM
Ok then, is it balanced?
The only reason he isn’t wanting the Hibs job is because of Gordon? Bet the Killie fans would be delighted with that.
Is he not maybe enjoying his job where he is currently? Is that maybe a factor too?
Not intended as a doubt on the poster or his source’s credibility, but I don’t buy that there’s any factors.
I don’t believe McInness has been asked and subsequently refused.
Hibbyradge
10-05-2022, 10:56 AM
I’m almost certain that mcinnes has far greater means of finding out how working under ron Gordon is than us lot on a forum.
As I said, what I’m hearing is 100% correct. I’m not making it up as a way to bash RG. The more I think about it the more I believe he made the correct decision in binning maloney so promptly.
We will see what happens with the next manager but I’m hoping it’s someone that everyone can get behind. (Fat chance of that however)
I'm not suggesting that you're making it up, I just don't believe that he would refuse to speak to the Hibs owner regardless of what his wife or whomever says.
Lot's of folk say one thing but do something entirely different when the opportunity actually arises.
As far as we know, Hibs haven't approached him so what he or anyone else says about the job, isn't worth much.
Gordy M
10-05-2022, 11:00 AM
I’m almost certain that mcinnes has far greater means of finding out how working under ron Gordon is than us lot on a forum.
As I said, what I’m hearing is 100% correct. I’m not making it up as a way to bash RG. The more I think about it the more I believe he made the correct decision in binning maloney so promptly.
We will see what happens with the next manager but I’m hoping it’s someone that everyone can get behind. (Fat chance of that however)
Thats good news, if McInnes is frightened that he cant deliver success which leads to RG bulleting him then im glad that he isnt coming. We need someone who isnt scared of success.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 11:01 AM
I don't even think Derek McInnes would recognise Ron Gordon in the street. He'll know next to nothing about him. Laughable to suggest he'd not take the Hibs job. Laughable.
Maybe he asked Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney about him as you would.
Unseen work
10-05-2022, 11:01 AM
Oxford fans seem to doubt Robinson would come to us due to family reasons
Supposedly it was the main reason he went to them after MK Dons and he travels back home to his family daily.
easty
10-05-2022, 11:05 AM
Maybe he asked Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney about him as you would.
Why would he? As far as I'm aware, we've never approached McInnes. Why would he feel the need to find out about Ron Gordon? Is Derek McInnes even close to Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney?
bingo70
10-05-2022, 11:06 AM
Maybe he asked Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney about him as you would.
And if you asked two people he had sacked would you not also take their opinion on board, but with a pinch of salt?
I don’t doubt there would be concerns there if he had asked to speak to him but to present that as the sole reason for him not being interested is rubbish IMO.
Even if we’d got further down the line and clubs had agreed terms but he didn’t like him in the interview then I’d probably buy that but when he’s not even spoken to the guy? No chance.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 11:06 AM
Oxford fans seem to doubt Robinson would come to us due to family reasons
Supposedly it was the main reason he went to them after MK Dons and he travels back home to his family daily.
Think he is settled in Milton Keynes however family circumstances can change though would assume an English team in that area would suit him better.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 11:10 AM
Why would he? As far as I'm aware, we've never approached McInnes. Why would he feel the need to find out about Ron Gordon? Is Derek McInnes even close to Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney?
Are you for real??
These guys all know each other from working in the media and probably also know each other away from football playing golf etc..
You would 100% find out about an employer prior to working from him. Especially after what has happened with our last two managers who BOTH criticised our recruitment policy.
Lester B
10-05-2022, 11:13 AM
Oxford fans seem to doubt Robinson would come to us due to family reasons
Supposedly it was the main reason he went to them after MK Dons and he travels back home to his family daily.
Emailed a work colleague who supports a League One team. These are his thoughts verbatim on KR: "Karl Robinson is a thing you put on a door to open it." Have asked him to elucidate
easty
10-05-2022, 11:16 AM
Are you for real??
These guys all know each other from working in the media and probably also know each other away from football playing golf etc..
You would 100% find out about an employer prior to working from him. Especially after what has happened with our last two managers who BOTH criticised our recruitment policy.
They probably know each other from playing golf...:aok:
Why would McInnes be asking anyone about Hibs? We've never been a potential employer as we've never went for him.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2022, 11:18 AM
Are you for real??
These guys all know each other from working in the media and probably also know each other away from football playing golf etc..
You would 100% find out about an employer prior to working from him. Especially after what has happened with our last two managers who BOTH criticised our recruitment policy.
Kilmarnock have been through more managers than us in the last 5 years.
Gotta assume that none of previous Kilmarnock managers had tee times available before he took that job.
Fuzzywuzzy
10-05-2022, 11:18 AM
Any applicant you would hope would have spoken with Ross and Maloney to find out what the lay of the land is.
Brightside
10-05-2022, 11:24 AM
Why would he? As far as I'm aware, we've never approached McInnes. Why would he feel the need to find out about Ron Gordon? Is Derek McInnes even close to Jack Ross or Shaun Maloney?
Derek and Jack are good friends. I'm not commenting on the McInnes thing as i was told we were never interested, same with Keane.
Alex Trager
10-05-2022, 11:37 AM
Could it be Cormack had words with Gordon and warned him off McInnes?
Which perhaps would worry me more than the other way around. If Gordon is listening to Coco Cormack who has successfully destabilised and weakened the recent powerhouse that is Aberdeen, then I am concerned
Springbank
10-05-2022, 11:45 AM
On the McInnes 'he said/she said' conversation...
my take is if an experienced manager (which McInnes undoubtedly is) was asked by anyone "so, you interested in the Hibs job", you don't say "abso-bloody-lutely" and start off a press frenzy.
any experienced guy like that would play it down, non-commital, as you never know who you are talking to, or who they might tell next.
just my 2p, but, for what it's worth, i don't come on here for facts, I always come on here for EXACTLY that kind of he said/she said knockabout stuff mentioned above - it's very often more entertaining than the reality after an appointment is made!
so keep up the good work ITKs and trouble-maker NITKs alike
LaMotta
10-05-2022, 11:46 AM
If he makes judgements based on second hand information rather than finding out for himself, again, we're better off without him.
Of course, he may be friendly with JR or Maloney and doesn't want to work for someone who hurt the feelings of his friend, but that's the behaviour of a teenager not a professional football manager.
I doubt Hibs have even spoken to him and given that the information is third hand, I'm not giving it too much credibility.
It's not about being unhappy at working for someone who hurt his friends feelings. Its about listening to someone he knows to try to figure out if there is a chance of a succesful working relationship. Common sense I would suggest.
You are probably right that we haven't spoken to him - that doesn't mean McIness hasn't been quizzed about the job by others and he has given his thoughts (as DD is suggesting).
I’m almost certain that mcinnes has far greater means of finding out how working under ron Gordon is than us lot on a forum.
As I said, what I’m hearing is 100% correct. I’m not making it up as a way to bash RG. The more I think about it the more I believe he made the correct decision in binning maloney so promptly.
We will see what happens with the next manager but I’m hoping it’s someone that everyone can get behind. (Fat chance of that however)
I was told, by a decent source, that DM was interested in our job last time round. Can you confirm that? If true then the only thing that has changed is he's now in employment. I'm not doubting your source but pinning everything on an irrational fear of RG seems strange.
leith lynx
10-05-2022, 12:10 PM
Emailed a work colleague who supports a League One team. These are his thoughts verbatim on KR: "Karl Robinson is a thing you put on a door to open it." Have asked him to elucidate
A weclome sign (blame Jack&Victor)
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 12:14 PM
Derek and Jack are good friends. I'm not commenting on the McInnes thing as i was told we were never interested, same with Keane.
Who play Golf together :agree:
Jack Ross also played Golf with Ron Gordon.
scuttle
10-05-2022, 12:24 PM
Emailed a work colleague who supports a League One team. These are his thoughts verbatim on KR: "Karl Robinson is a thing you put on a door to open it." Have asked him to elucidate
Take it he means he is a knob,
Jones28
10-05-2022, 12:58 PM
Take it he means he is a knob,
A handle? I’m not getting it.
Lester B
10-05-2022, 01:27 PM
Take it he means he is a knob,
Yeah. I've asked him for more details why but no answer yet
H18 SFR
10-05-2022, 01:28 PM
Yeah. I've asked him for more details why but no answer yet
Must mean he’s the key. Key to opening the door to sustained and consistent success.
Lester B
10-05-2022, 01:28 PM
A handle? I’m not getting it.
:faf::faf:
I don't think handle is an insult in Sunderland. Could be wrong but pretty sure he means KR is a knob
Lester B
10-05-2022, 01:29 PM
Must mean he’s the key. Key to opening the door to sustained and consistent success.
If only.....
Alex Trager
10-05-2022, 01:35 PM
A hinge loose?
Since452
10-05-2022, 01:47 PM
Derek and Jack are good friends. I'm not commenting on the McInnes thing as i was told we were never interested, same with Keane.
:agree: You are correct. Jack has said a few times that McInnes has been a huge help to him in his managerial career.
Lester B
10-05-2022, 01:49 PM
A hinge loose?
Don't know about that but certainly some replies are from people with a screw loose
bingo70
10-05-2022, 02:12 PM
https://twitter.com/beltel_sport/status/1524003825085952001?s=21&t=WJMM6BQOSmJijsZKDQHvLA
Not been linked directly with us in that article however David Healy getting interest and seen someone tweet he’s a target for us.
On paper looks like he’s done a terrific job at Linfield.
chippy
10-05-2022, 02:22 PM
https://twitter.com/beltel_sport/status/1524003825085952001?s=21&t=WJMM6BQOSmJijsZKDQHvLA
Not been linked directly with us in that article however David Healy getting interest and seen someone tweet he’s a target for us.
On paper looks like he’s done a terrific job at Linfield.
You stirring it ?
bingo70
10-05-2022, 02:27 PM
You stirring it ?
Why would I be stirring it? He only had one season at Rangers and according to wiki only played 19 games?!
As a manager he’s done an incredible job at Linfield.
beensaidbefore
10-05-2022, 02:34 PM
This thread is mental. We have a bunch of posters doubting that mccinnes would be able to get info on Ron Grodon, whilst the other half go on at length about how and why certain managers are good bad as they have all the info in the world.
I'd hazard a guess that mccinnes could get more information on Gordon than we could on potential new managers.
I want O'Neil so don't gaf either way, just find it rather ironic
Heisenberg
10-05-2022, 02:41 PM
https://twitter.com/atkotweets/status/1524035386288353280?s=21&t=XpJxlV8OnE6cFbAh5ATRkg
Lee Johnson a candidate for the job.
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/atkotweets/status/1524035386288353280?s=21&t=XpJxlV8OnE6cFbAh5ATRkg
Lee Johnson a candidate for the job.I know one poster who will be happy with this
Cha-ching! [emoji23]
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bingo70
10-05-2022, 02:45 PM
https://twitter.com/atkotweets/status/1524035386288353280?s=21&t=XpJxlV8OnE6cFbAh5ATRkg
Lee Johnson a candidate for the job.
Really struggling to get excited about him.
Too boring an appointment to have an opinion either way. Just screams ‘meh’.
Might do alright, might not.
SteveHFC
10-05-2022, 02:51 PM
Who was the poster that put money on him being appointed?
WhileTheChief..
10-05-2022, 02:53 PM
Really struggling to get excited about him.
Too boring an appointment to have an opinion either way. Just screams ‘meh’.
Might do alright, might not.
I'm going to copy / paste this.
It could apply to practically every name we've been linked with!
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 03:00 PM
Who was the poster that put money on him being appointed?James something I think
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bingo70
10-05-2022, 03:02 PM
I'm going to copy / paste this.
It could apply to practically every name we've been linked with!
Not really, Roy Keane generated about a million pages of debate (most of it good IMO). I enjoyed the Derek McInnes link as I found myself changing my mind based on some really good points people made.
People who have interesting CV’s of doing really well somewhere but then struggling elsewhere are worth digging into a bit deeper to find out what caused them to fail, well I find that interesting and worth debating.
Lee Johnson looks to me like someone that’s done alright wherever he’s been, not bad, not brilliant, just meh. Highlight of his managerial career appears to have been to beat Manchester Utd in the league cup, good achievement no doubt but just watched a video on that and the secret behind his success if that game seemed to be to play with ‘two false number 9’s’….. to me that sounds like he played nobody up front in order to pack the midfield but maybe I’m just a dinosaur.
Despite all that, I think I read his teams generally score a lot of goals and is quite an attacking manager which would be good.
Might be alright, might not…….. if he doesn’t get the Hibs job he’ll probably get another league 1 job and he’ll continue to be alright.
I know loads of people are screaming for an experienced manager, I’d rather we tried to find someone that might be absolutely brilliant. I doubt that’ll be him to be honest.
Turkish Green
10-05-2022, 03:12 PM
Really struggling to get excited about him.
Too boring an appointment to have an opinion either way. Just screams ‘meh’.
Might do alright, might not.
A risk. A gamble. His career has been following his father around. Sunderland!!!
On the plus side he has the scouting contacts in the family.
Brightside
10-05-2022, 03:12 PM
https://twitter.com/atkotweets/status/1524035386288353280?s=21&t=XpJxlV8OnE6cFbAh5ATRkg
Lee Johnson a candidate for the job.
Too short.
Gordy M
10-05-2022, 03:16 PM
Not really, Roy Keane generated about a million pages of debate (most of it good IMO). I enjoyed the Derek McInnes link as I found myself changing my mind based on some really good points people made.
People who have interesting CV’s of doing really well somewhere but then struggling elsewhere are worth digging into a bit deeper to find out what caused them to fail, well I find that interesting and worth debating.
Lee Johnson looks to me like someone that’s done alright wherever he’s been, not bad, not brilliant, just meh. Highlight of his managerial career appears to have been to beat Manchester Utd in the league cup, good achievement no doubt but just watched a video on that and the secret behind his success if that game seemed to be to play with ‘two false number 9’s’….. to me that sounds like he played nobody up front in order to pack the midfield but maybe I’m just a dinosaur.
Despite all that, I think I read his teams generally score a lot of goals and is quite an attacking manager which would be good.
Might be alright, might not…….. if he doesn’t get the Hibs job he’ll probably get another league 1 job and he’ll continue to be alright.
I know loads of people are screaming for an experienced manager, I’d rather we tried to find someone that might be absolutely brilliant. I doubt that’ll be him to be honest.
But surely its a good thing that our much critisized recruitment team are speaking to a lot of candidates? They are not doing their job if they are not speaking to ALL potential managers?? It doesnt mean they are getting the job, just that they have been spoken to.
Unseen work
10-05-2022, 03:29 PM
I actually feel sorry for the club and new manager.
I really don’t know what some fans expect.
There’s no reason why one manager will be successful and the other won’t, the majority come with their own risk at a club like Hibs.
You just have to look at Robbie Neilson, he was sacked and now look at him at Hearts. Look at guys like Callum Davidson at St Johnston, Martindale at Livi etc.
I think it’s down to social media and the amount of access you can get about a manager compared to before.
I also don’t get the obsession with getting in a foreign coach just for the sake of it.
Let’s just support whoever it is and give them a chance.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 03:30 PM
But surely its a good thing that our much critisized recruitment team are speaking to a lot of candidates? They are not doing their job if they are not speaking to ALL potential managers?? It doesnt mean they are getting the job, just that they have been spoken to.
Sounds like he’s down to the final few candidates though.
If the criteria for the recruitment team was to go and find the most boring list of candidates we can find who will steady the ship for a bit they’ve done a great job going by the names that have made the press.
Ron Gordon made a big deal about wanting everyone to think differently and to think bigger, yet for arguably the most important position at the club he’s wanting us to revert back to the most boring managerial search known to man, find failed league 1 or league 2 managers from down south that talk a good game.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 03:32 PM
I actually feel sorry for the club and new manager.
I really don’t know what some fans expect.
There’s no reason why one manager will be successful and the other won’t, the majority come with their own risk at a club like Hibs.
You just have to look at Robbie Neilson, he was sacked and now look at him at Hearts. Look at guys like Callum Davidson at St Johnston, Martindale at Livi etc.
I think it’s down to social media and the amount of access you can get about a manager compared to before.
I also don’t get the obsession with getting in a foreign coach just for the sake of it.
Let’s just support whoever it is and give them a chance.
I’m sure we will but this is the place to discuss the merits of each appointment.
If we go down the route of appointing one of the names mentioned, I’ll still get my season ticket and go to support the team. I’m still allowed to think and discuss if they’ll be good or not.
Unseen work
10-05-2022, 03:34 PM
I’m sure we will but this is the place to discuss the merits of each appointment.
If we go down the route of appointing one of the names mentioned, I’ll still get my season ticket and go to support the team. I’m still allowed to think and discuss if they’ll be good or not.
Absolutely you are and this is the place to do it.
I’m meaning there is some fans out there that I don’t think would be happy with any appointment.
blackpoolhibs
10-05-2022, 03:36 PM
Ex gimp player, wont be back if it's him.
04Sauzee
10-05-2022, 03:37 PM
Not really, Roy Keane generated about a million pages of debate (most of it good IMO). I enjoyed the Derek McInnes link as I found myself changing my mind based on some really good points people made.
People who have interesting CV’s of doing really well somewhere but then struggling elsewhere are worth digging into a bit deeper to find out what caused them to fail, well I find that interesting and worth debating.
Lee Johnson looks to me like someone that’s done alright wherever he’s been, not bad, not brilliant, just meh. Highlight of his managerial career appears to have been to beat Manchester Utd in the league cup, good achievement no doubt but just watched a video on that and the secret behind his success if that game seemed to be to play with ‘two false number 9’s’….. to me that sounds like he played nobody up front in order to pack the midfield but maybe I’m just a dinosaur.
Despite all that, I think I read his teams generally score a lot of goals and is quite an attacking manager which would be good.
Might be alright, might not…….. if he doesn’t get the Hibs job he’ll probably get another league 1 job and he’ll continue to be alright.
I know loads of people are screaming for an experienced manager, I’d rather we tried to find someone that might be absolutely brilliant. I doubt that’ll be him to be honest.
I know we can be obsessed with stats and they don't tell the full story but even with 2 false No9s it looks like they had a go and at the end of the day the stat that counts was a 2-1 win 😁
https://i.ibb.co/JdRRmWq/Screenshot-2022-05-10-16-34-39-66-680d03679600f7af0b4c700c6b270fe7.jpg (https://ibb.co/n0ss6qB)
Gordy M
10-05-2022, 03:39 PM
Sounds like he’s down to the final few candidates though.
If the criteria for the recruitment team was to go and find the most boring list of candidates we can find who will steady the ship for a bit they’ve done a great job going by the names that have made the press.
Ron Gordon made a big deal about wanting everyone to think differently and to think bigger, yet for arguably the most important position at the club he’s wanting us to revert back to the most boring managerial search known to man, find failed league 1 or league 2 managers from down south that talk a good game.
But surely its about getting the right manager who gets us winming with attacking football? I couldnt care if he is boring as a concrete brick. Much rather that than say Roy Keane who is basically a Sky pundit who acts hard on TV. He hasnt manged for 10 years and wasnt even a success then? Its bizarre that folk would rather him......who has done nothing in mamagement for a decade but says controversial things when Man Utd get beat so qualifies him to manage hibs?
thebausburst
10-05-2022, 03:40 PM
The shortlisted names being quoted in the hootsman is frankly depressing, how did we go from the like of Keane and Cocu to the non entities now being discussed, where are the indications that we made any effort beyond the UK, where is the ambition, did we even try for someone like Ronny Delia for example.
Heisenberg
10-05-2022, 03:41 PM
EEN have said there’s nothing in the Robinson story from last night.
Northernhibee
10-05-2022, 03:41 PM
The shortlisted names being quoted in the hootsman is frankly depressing, how did we go from the like of Keane and Cocu to the non entities now being discussed, where are the indications that we made any effort beyond the UK, where is the ambition, did we even try for someone like Ronny Delia for example.
There's absolutely no evidence that Roy Keane - a manager who wasn't very good and has now been out of it for eleven years - would be better than an Appleton or the like. Derby County fans not particularly complimentary about the style of football under Cocu.
We need a solid, sensible and stable leader at this moment in time, not who's the biggest celebrity.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 03:44 PM
But surely its about getting the right manager who gets us winming with attacking football? I couldnt care if he is boring as a concrete brick. Much rather that than say Roy Keane who is basically a Sky pundit who acts hard on TV. He hasnt manged for 10 years and wasnt even a success then? Its bizarre that folk would rather him......who has done nothing in mamagement for a decade but says controversial things when Man Utd get beat so qualifies him to manage hibs?
Of course finding the right manager for Hibs is the right and most important thing.
Not going to get into the he Roy Keane thing again as that’s been done to death but I suppose my point is, Johnson has had a few jobs now and if he was a brilliant manager, he’d have shown it in one of them, he’s not though, going by his record he appears to be the absolute definition of a bang average manager, not a bad one, but not a brilliant one.
No really any spikes on his managerial career where he has done amazing and no real disasters, just a consistent line of averageness, I’m not even sure if that’s a word but I’m sticking with it.
SlickShoes
10-05-2022, 03:48 PM
The shortlisted names being quoted in the hootsman is frankly depressing, how did we go from the like of Keane and Cocu to the non entities now being discussed, where are the indications that we made any effort beyond the UK, where is the ambition, did we even try for someone like Ronny Delia for example.
What do you think would convince Deila to come to Hibs from NYC if he doesn't really want to? what is trying?
Of course finding the right manager for Hibs is the right and most important thing.
Not going to get into the he Roy Keane thing again as that’s been done to death but I suppose my point is, Johnson has had a few jobs now and if he was a brilliant manager, he’d have shown it in one of them, he’s not though, going by his record he appears to be the absolute definition of a bang average manager, not a bad one, but not a brilliant one.
No really any spikes on his managerial career where he has done amazing and no real disasters, just a consistent line of averageness, I’m not even sure if that’s a word but I’m sticking with it.
I really hope that RG and co are really looking at Lee Johnson as our next manager! Please no!
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BegbieHSC
10-05-2022, 03:49 PM
The shortlisted names being quoted in the hootsman is frankly depressing, how did we go from the like of Keane and Cocu to the non entities now being discussed, where are the indications that we made any effort beyond the UK, where is the ambition, did we even try for someone like Ronny Delia for example.
Agreed! What happened to the Cocu rumours?
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 04:00 PM
Ex gimp player, wont be back if it's him.
😀
Smartie
10-05-2022, 04:00 PM
I actually feel sorry for the club and new manager.
I really don’t know what some fans expect.
There’s no reason why one manager will be successful and the other won’t, the majority come with their own risk at a club like Hibs.
You just have to look at Robbie Neilson, he was sacked and now look at him at Hearts. Look at guys like Callum Davidson at St Johnston, Martindale at Livi etc.
I think it’s down to social media and the amount of access you can get about a manager compared to before.
I also don’t get the obsession with getting in a foreign coach just for the sake of it.
Let’s just support whoever it is and give them a chance.
I agree with pretty much all of this.
Hibs feel a bit like they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
There isn’t an outstanding candidate and some people will choose to focus on one negative or another irrespective of who is appointed.
Butcher was probably the most unanimously approved appointment in my time and we know how that worked out. Our most successful appointments had their detractors but won them over with good football and results.
I’m pretty open minded on this appointment.
Agree re the foreign coach stuff too. It’s mental that we’d want someone without knowing anything about their credentials, purely based on the fact that they’re a bit exotic and may have communication issues from day one.
I’d also like someone who has a bit of failure somewhere on their cv, so the first time they come under pressure as a manager at ER isn’t the first time in their managerial career that they’ve had to deal with hassle.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 04:02 PM
I actually feel sorry for the club and new manager.
I really don’t know what some fans expect.
There’s no reason why one manager will be successful and the other won’t, the majority come with their own risk at a club like Hibs.
You just have to look at Robbie Neilson, he was sacked and now look at him at Hearts. Look at guys like Callum Davidson at St Johnston, Martindale at Livi etc.
I think it’s down to social media and the amount of access you can get about a manager compared to before.
I also don’t get the obsession with getting in a foreign coach just for the sake of it.
Let’s just support whoever it is and give them a chance.
Too much like common sense
Gordy M
10-05-2022, 04:04 PM
Of course finding the right manager for Hibs is the right and most important thing.
Not going to get into the he Roy Keane thing again as that’s been done to death but I suppose my point is, Johnson has had a few jobs now and if he was a brilliant manager, he’d have shown it in one of them, he’s not though, going by his record he appears to be the absolute definition of a bang average manager, not a bad one, but not a brilliant one.
No really any spikes on his managerial career where he has done amazing and no real disasters, just a consistent line of averageness, I’m not even sure if that’s a word but I’m sticking with it.
I understand what you are saying but any manager we get are going to have disappointments on their CV, was Cocu not a disaster at Derby? The way i look at it, 2 of our most popular managers recently were Stubbs and Mowbray who would fit right into your description of boring managers. I remember the old Tony who and Alan who threads on here.
JimBHibees
10-05-2022, 04:05 PM
What do you think would convince Deila to come to Hibs from NYC if he doesn't really want to? what is trying?
Hi Ronny Hibs here fancy moving from the big apple to Edinburgh for less money. Cue hysterical laughter on other end of the phone 🙂
GreenCastle
10-05-2022, 04:06 PM
The shortlisted names being quoted in the hootsman is frankly depressing, how did we go from the like of Keane and Cocu to the non entities now being discussed, where are the indications that we made any effort beyond the UK, where is the ambition, did we even try for someone like Ronny Delia for example.
Ronny Delia is not coming from a well paid job in the MLS and having just won the MLS to Scotland.
It would be a great appointment but really can't it happening.
bingo70
10-05-2022, 04:15 PM
I understand what you are saying but any manager we get are going to have disappointments on their CV, was Cocu not a disaster at Derby? The way i look at it, 2 of our most popular managers recently were Stubbs and Mowbray who would fit right into your description of boring managers. I remember the old Tony who and Alan who threads on here.
I don’t mind disappointments on their cv if they’ve had some highs too. I just don’t see what Johnson’s done or what he will point to his CV other than pointing out he’s not been that bad anywhere?
FWIW the high profile names you mentioned weren’t for me either. I just hoped as a club we could cast our net further than failed league one managers.
Not just because they had exotic names either, Stephen Bradley from Ireland for example would be a really interesting appointment, guys from Scandinavia who have actually been successful somewhere, Graham Arnold was one that really interested me and has been desperate to get into Scottish football in the past.
Or we could just look for the least ***** failed manager from the third tier of English football.
JamesHFC
10-05-2022, 04:22 PM
EEN have said there’s nothing in the Robinson story from last night.
Lee Johnson, tick tock.
Gordy M
10-05-2022, 04:28 PM
I don’t mind disappointments on their cv if they’ve had some highs too. I just don’t see what Johnson’s done or what he will point to his CV other than pointing out he’s not been that bad anywhere?
FWIW the high profile names you mentioned weren’t for me either. I just hoped as a club we could cast our net further than failed league one managers.
Not just because they had exotic names either, Stephen Bradley from Ireland for example would be a really interesting appointment, guys from Scandinavia who have actually been successful somewhere, Graham Arnold was one that really interested me and has been desperate to get into Scottish football in the past.
Or we could just look for the least ***** failed manager from the third tier of English football.
But this takes me back to my original point, i want them to speak to every manager who is avaialable, expressed an interest etc. You have no idea who we have spoken to or who we are lining up but are getting your knickers in a twist over a possible candidate?
SteveHFC
10-05-2022, 04:30 PM
Lee Johnson, tick tock.
Any bookies still taking bets for the next manager?
Lee Johnson, tick tock.
Think you mentioned his name before.
Inside info? 😁
Can Ron no just admit he made a Roger of it with Jack Ross
Thought he already did in his interview?
ekhibee
10-05-2022, 04:36 PM
Has Michael O'Neill been scored off the list yet? He'd be my choice...
Keith_M
10-05-2022, 04:38 PM
Has Michael O'Neill been scored off the list yet? He'd be my choice...
I'd be happy with that.
WhileTheChief..
10-05-2022, 04:56 PM
Not really, Roy Keane generated about a million pages of debate (most of it good IMO). I enjoyed the Derek McInnes link as I found myself changing my mind based on some really good points people made.
People who have interesting CV’s of doing really well somewhere but then struggling elsewhere are worth digging into a bit deeper to find out what caused them to fail, well I find that interesting and worth debating.
Lee Johnson looks to me like someone that’s done alright wherever he’s been, not bad, not brilliant, just meh. Highlight of his managerial career appears to have been to beat Manchester Utd in the league cup, good achievement no doubt but just watched a video on that and the secret behind his success if that game seemed to be to play with ‘two false number 9’s’….. to me that sounds like he played nobody up front in order to pack the midfield but maybe I’m just a dinosaur.
Despite all that, I think I read his teams generally score a lot of goals and is quite an attacking manager which would be good.
Might be alright, might not…….. if he doesn’t get the Hibs job he’ll probably get another league 1 job and he’ll continue to be alright.
I know loads of people are screaming for an experienced manager, I’d rather we tried to find someone that might be absolutely brilliant. I doubt that’ll be him to be honest.
Keene and Cocu are the 2 that got my attention.
I'm sure McInnes or whoever could do a fine job but, I think I'm similar to you here, I'm wanting more than fine. Or at least to have a go at doing better than fine.
Steady as she goes just doesn't interest me at all anymore.
I like that you put the effort into looking up candidates. I'm too lazy for that. I'll just crap on the names I don't like :wink:
Hibs90
10-05-2022, 04:57 PM
Can't say I'm excited about Lee Johnson tbh.
thebausburst
10-05-2022, 04:58 PM
Hi Ronny Hibs here fancy moving from the big apple to Edinburgh for less money. Cue hysterical laughter on other end of the phone 🙂
Well if you check your facts Delia is on around 500k in dollars which is circa 400k sterling, about the salary Ross was on.
Billy Whizz
10-05-2022, 05:00 PM
Well if you check your facts Delia is on around 500k in dollars which is circa 400k sterling, about the salary Ross was on.
Ross was on £400k?
WhileTheChief..
10-05-2022, 05:02 PM
I actually feel sorry for the club and new manager.
I really don’t know what some fans expect.
There’s no reason why one manager will be successful and the other won’t, the majority come with their own risk at a club like Hibs.
You just have to look at Robbie Neilson, he was sacked and now look at him at Hearts. Look at guys like Callum Davidson at St Johnston, Martindale at Livi etc.
I think it’s down to social media and the amount of access you can get about a manager compared to before.
I also don’t get the obsession with getting in a foreign coach just for the sake of it.
Let’s just support whoever it is and give them a chance.
It's a tough one for the club but I wouldn't go as far as to feel sorry for them.
A lot of fans ave been perfectly clear in the type of person they want as manager. RG has also been pretty clear about it.
The worry is, that the names being banded about don't appear to tick the boxes that RG wants filled.
I appreciate that's mostly down to the media having no idea about who we're after but they wouldn't name the likes of Lee Johnston if there was nothing in it.
The new man, whoever he is, will get our support. It won't last long if the results are crap like under Maloney. That's the way it should be.
tonyrougier123
10-05-2022, 05:06 PM
If lee Johnson gets the gig I won’t be renewing.🙄
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 05:10 PM
Is Michael oneill actually a better candidate than some of the names being bandied about?
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JamesHFC
10-05-2022, 05:15 PM
Think you mentioned his name before.
Inside info? 😁
I got told he had been interviewed. Haven’t heard much else though. Got a wager on him at 16/1 and 25/1 so I won’t be complaining if it is him.
I think it’s between him and Appleton.
Greencore
10-05-2022, 05:15 PM
Won't be Michael O'Neil as Ron has came out and said he wants a manager who plays attacking football.
JamesHFC
10-05-2022, 05:16 PM
Any bookies still taking bets for the next manager?
Not that I’m aware of, not sure why BetVictor stopped taking bets after McInnes became favourite.
Stuart93
10-05-2022, 05:17 PM
If lee Johnson gets the gig I won’t be renewing.🙄
Would make my mind up as well unfortunately
thebausburst
10-05-2022, 05:17 PM
Ross was on £400k?
There are numerous open source articles that confirm Hibs manager salary is easily competitive with Delia’s / MLS but some fans would rather slag off anyone putting forward an exciting name the standard of which we should be going for and imo should be asking the current board what efforts if any have been made to extend our search beyond the UK. Instead we’ll likely just accept some English lower league name the likes of which we’ve done numerous times before without much/any success.
Sioux
10-05-2022, 05:18 PM
I’m sure we will but this is the place to discuss the merits of each appointment.
If we go down the route of appointing one of the names mentioned, I’ll still get my season ticket and go to support the team. I’m still allowed to think and discuss if they’ll be good or not.
You need to stop believing all the BS you come up with on your incessant trawling through twitter.
Billy Whizz
10-05-2022, 05:19 PM
Won't be Michael O'Neil as Ron has came out and said he wants a manager who plays attacking football.
He’s also under a healthy contract for another year at Stoke
Springbank
10-05-2022, 05:19 PM
If Johnson or Appleton get the job I'll be hoping for the same impact Mowbray & Stubbs had, and I'll be enjoying my season ticket
MikeyS
10-05-2022, 05:26 PM
Is Michael oneill actually a better candidate than some of the names being bandied about?
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If you like boring, defensive football he is the man for the job...
MikeyS
10-05-2022, 05:33 PM
Would make my mind up as well unfortunately
🤣 sure you will!!
Tyler Durden
10-05-2022, 05:33 PM
Lee Johnson, tick tock.
Me & you were on the same page about 2 weeks ago when I quoted the 25/1.
For me Johnson ticks alot of boxes and was always a strong logical candidate. He's likable, he has a bit of personality, he's got experience in Scotland, he is a bit old school and plays attacking football. He's done well at previous jobs and was unlucky to get the sack at Sunderland IMO.
I really don't know what some Hibs fans expect. It seems some people are sworn off any English manager just due to Hecky. Guys managing in League One in England are operating in the same market as Hibs and Johnson will have worked with bigger budgets than Hibs will be offering.
It's always going to be someone who's off the back of a sacking or someone who's working their way up without experience at our level. That's the rub.
Cod Boy
10-05-2022, 05:43 PM
We seem to be attracted to sacked managers at Sunderland
hibs#1
10-05-2022, 05:45 PM
Leigh Johnstone ticks the box of nobody being able to spell his name ✔
Hibees1973
10-05-2022, 05:49 PM
The thought of Ron Gordon, his wee laddie and Kensall recruiting a new manager for OUR club just makes me sick.
These clowns are responsible for the mess we are in and the debacle of the last 6 months.
God I hope a white knight, with Hibs connections, comes to our rescue and kicks theses idiots out of OUR club.
Feel I must apologise for my negativity but this is honestly how I feel.
I don't trust any of them to make correct decisions. None of them have any affinity to Edinburgh and Hibs and the sooner they are all gone the better, although I'm not holding my breath.
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 05:51 PM
The thought of Ron Gordon, his wee laddie and Kensall recruiting a new manager for OUR club just makes me sick.
These clowns are responsible for the mess we are in and the debacle of the last 6 months.
God I hope a white knight, with Hibs connections, comes to our rescue and kicks theses idiots out of OUR club.
Feel I must apologise for my negativity but this is honestly how I feel.
I don't trust any of them to make correct decisions. None of them have any affinity to Edinburgh and Hibs and the sooner they are all gone the better, although I'm not holding my breath.I enjoy your use of capitalisation
It really drives home the point you are making
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CapitalGreen
10-05-2022, 05:55 PM
Me & you were on the same page about 2 weeks ago when I quoted the 25/1.
For me Johnson ticks alot of boxes and was always a strong logical candidate. He's likable, he has a bit of personality, he's got experience in Scotland, he is a bit old school and plays attacking football. He's done well at previous jobs and was unlucky to get the sack at Sunderland IMO.
I really don't know what some Hibs fans expect. It seems some people are sworn off any English manager just due to Hecky. Guys managing in League One in England are operating in the same market as Hibs and Johnson will have worked with bigger budgets than Hibs will be offering.
It's always going to be someone who's off the back of a sacking or someone who's working their way up without experience at our level. That's the rub.
How was he unlucky to get the sack at Sunderland?
Since452
10-05-2022, 05:55 PM
The thought of Ron Gordon, his wee laddie and Kensall recruiting a new manager for OUR club just makes me sick.
These clowns are responsible for the mess we are in and the debacle of the last 6 months.
God I hope a white knight, with Hibs connections, comes to our rescue and kicks theses idiots out of OUR club.
Feel I must apologise for my negativity but this is honestly how I feel.
I don't trust any of them to make correct decisions. None of them have any affinity to Edinburgh and Hibs and the sooner they are all gone the better, although I'm not holding my breath.
Bit of an overreaction? They've made one appointment, admittedly a woeful one, but let's give them the opportunity to make up for it. This one is huge for them all.
Tyler Durden
10-05-2022, 06:05 PM
How was he unlucky to get the sack at Sunderland?
They were 3rd in the league when he was sacked.
They’d just been beaten 6-0 by Bolton but they beat Sheff Wed 5-0 themselves barely a month prior. Could easily have won automatic promotion if he’d stayed.
Callum_62
10-05-2022, 06:07 PM
Out of the names linked I'd probaly take Warburton - not sure if its realistic or not
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/mark-warburton-interview-qpr-championship-b2071900.html
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scuttle
10-05-2022, 06:16 PM
Looking at the HOH thread the other day got me thinking back to those days, at the time i didnt care who our manager was or what league we would be playing in as long as Hibs were still in business and i had my club to support. I cant get my head round a lot of posters on here who state they are not renewing if its this guy or the next guy .As a club we cant attract world class players or well known players, our best bet is if we unearth an unknown gem from down south or develop our own as in Porteous and Doig so the same must apply to managers, Keane, Cocu, Mowbray were never coming to Hibs so we are left with guys like Appleton, Johnson or our own guys up here McKay ,Mcinnes etc is probably the best we can attract without european football and large transfer budgets. No matter who gets the job we have to get right behind him or her support the team and get rid of this apathy that seems to be gripping everyone at the moment . Even if we appointed Craig Levein i would always support Hibs.....well maybe, players ,managers come and go even owners but Hibs will always be Hibs. For what its worth i think it will be Johnson
FitbaFolkKen
10-05-2022, 06:16 PM
The thought of Ron Gordon, his wee laddie and Kensall recruiting a new manager for OUR club just makes me sick.
These clowns are responsible for the mess we are in and the debacle of the last 6 months.
God I hope a white knight, with Hibs connections, comes to our rescue and kicks theses idiots out of OUR club.
Feel I must apologise for my negativity but this is honestly how I feel.
I don't trust any of them to make correct decisions. None of them have any affinity to Edinburgh and Hibs and the sooner they are all gone the better, although I'm not holding my breath.
To be fair it is RONS club, I don't for one minute believe any appointment is made without thinking they are the best candidate. They are taking their time so I guess we find out if they have learned their lesson.
JamesHFC
10-05-2022, 06:31 PM
Me & you were on the same page about 2 weeks ago when I quoted the 25/1.
For me Johnson ticks alot of boxes and was always a strong logical candidate. He's likable, he has a bit of personality, he's got experience in Scotland, he is a bit old school and plays attacking football. He's done well at previous jobs and was unlucky to get the sack at Sunderland IMO.
I really don't know what some Hibs fans expect. It seems some people are sworn off any English manager just due to Hecky. Guys managing in League One in England are operating in the same market as Hibs and Johnson will have worked with bigger budgets than Hibs will be offering.
It's always going to be someone who's off the back of a sacking or someone who's working their way up without experience at our level. That's the rub.
Spot on. I think he was always a realistic option.
His CV isn’t bad in my opinion. Oldham were in a relegation battle when he became manager at 31, keeping them up and getting them their highest league finish in 5 years.
Took over Barnsley when they were underachieving and got them a higher league finish, the season after he got them to the EFL Trophy final which they went on to win under Hecky after he was poached by Bristol City.
Bristol City were basically relegation candidates and he got them challenging for the play offs and to a League Cup semi final.
He won the EFL trophy at Sunderland and was sacked when they were 3rd and 2 points off top of the league.
He’s been praised by a lot of people for his style of football too.
MikeyS
10-05-2022, 06:34 PM
The thought of Ron Gordon, his wee laddie and Kensall recruiting a new manager for OUR club just makes me sick.
These clowns are responsible for the mess we are in and the debacle of the last 6 months.
God I hope a white knight, with Hibs connections, comes to our rescue and kicks theses idiots out of OUR club.
Feel I must apologise for my negativity but this is honestly how I feel.
I don't trust any of them to make correct decisions. None of them have any affinity to Edinburgh and Hibs and the sooner they are all gone the better, although I'm not holding my breath.
🤣🤣🤣 I've never known so many dramatic posters to frequent here!
I'm going to assume the 1973 in your handle refers to your age and if so you have most definitely endured worse spells watching Hibs than this! Rg hasn't c9vered himself in flory but he has had 1 bad appointment which he acted swiftly to rectify.
Let's see what the next appointment brings before we all start greeting like bairns!
Its great fun reading these posts mind you!
If lee Johnson gets the gig I won’t be renewing.🙄
You'll be missed 😅
stantonhibby
10-05-2022, 06:36 PM
Drama queen central on here
Johnston's Sunderland record isn't too shabby, 51.3% win ratio, 78 games, 40 wins, 29 draws and 18 losses.
easty
10-05-2022, 06:41 PM
If Lee Johnson doesn't get the job I'm buying my mum a season ticket just so she can send it back.
Is that hysterical enough for this thread?
Lester B
10-05-2022, 06:41 PM
Spot on. I think he was always a realistic option.
His CV isn’t bad in my opinion. Oldham were in a relegation battle when he became manager at 31, keeping them up and getting them their highest league finish in 5 years.
Took over Barnsley when they were underachieving and got them a higher league finish, the season after he got them to the EFL Trophy final which they went on to win under Hecky after he was poached by Bristol City.
Bristol City were basically relegation candidates and he got them challenging for the play offs and to a League Cup semi final.
He won the EFL trophy at Sunderland and was sacked when they were 3rd and 2 points off top of the league.
He’s been praised by a lot of people for his style of football too.
Already mentioned on this thread that I have a workmate and mate in general who is a Sunderland fan. As soon as he heard that Maloney had gone he texted me saying that we should go for Johnson.
NC1875
10-05-2022, 06:42 PM
Out of the names linked I'd probaly take Warburton - not sure if its realistic or not
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/mark-warburton-interview-qpr-championship-b2071900.html
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Me too. And ive had a weird feeling it’s going to be him.
MikeyS
10-05-2022, 06:47 PM
Drama queen central on here
Careful mate, there's a lot of sensitive souls on the board at the moment that won't like you discriminating queens like that. Best use Drama kings/queens in future 😉
Me too. And ive had a weird feeling it’s going to be him.
Can't wait for the reaction to that appointment if it were to happen 😊
Alfred E Newman
10-05-2022, 07:10 PM
Me too. And ive had a weird feeling it’s going to be him.
I wonder if he's thrown his hat in the ring?
NC1875
10-05-2022, 07:11 PM
I wonder if he's thrown his hat in the ring?
👏🏼 boom boom
Hibees1973
10-05-2022, 07:21 PM
🤣🤣🤣 I've never known so many dramatic posters to frequent here!
I'm going to assume the 1973 in your handle refers to your age and if so you have most definitely endured worse spells watching Hibs than this! Rg hasn't c9vered himself in flory but he has had 1 bad appointment which he acted swiftly to rectify.
Let's see what the next appointment brings before we all start greeting like bairns!
Its great fun reading these posts mind you!
One of the first games I remember as a wee boy attending was the legendary Hibs v Leeds UEFA Cup tie....in 1973, hence the handle. Remembering that game remains with me to this day. Hands up, I am prone to the odd over reaction, but my earlier post is honestly how I feel. It's my opinion that Ron Gordon is an imposter. Quotes from him saying we are trying to have the same ethic as Sevilla & Atletico Madrid are fantasy. Appointing his son, I loathe nepotism, and Kensall who seems a bit of a spiv, has not endeared Ron Gordon to me.
I understand some people on this thread regard my views as extreme, but this is really how I feel. It's my belief that Ron Gordon does not understand Scottish Football and how to run a football club. Much as he seems to act with the best of intentions my gut feeling is the guy does not have a clue and he will continue to make mistakes. Maybe he will learn from them, but I very much doubt it.
I just hope that when Ron Gordon goes he takes any financial burden liable to Hibs with him. He has burned a fair bit of cash during his tenure on duff players and dubious projects. Is this a liability he is personally responsible for or will this be left at the door of the next owner.
Heisenberg
10-05-2022, 07:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them. Mackay, McInnes and Robinson not in the running.
Hibs90
10-05-2022, 08:03 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them. Mackay, McInnes and Robinson not in the running.
Can only hope the other two are something special as neither of those give me good vibes to be honest.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 08:05 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them. Mackay, McInnes and Robinson not in the running.
It's Appleton. If he wasn't interested his name would have been in the press he wasn't in the running early doors.
Scorrie
10-05-2022, 08:08 PM
Can only hope the other two are something special as neither of those give me good vibes to be honest.
Same here. Pretty underwhelming but hey ho
Since452
10-05-2022, 08:08 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them. Mackay, McInnes and Robinson not in the running.
Appleton, Johnson, Ancelotti, big Phil Scolari.
Is It On....
10-05-2022, 08:23 PM
Me too. And ive had a weird feeling it’s going to be him.
My friend who is a QPR fan said Warburton has gone because he didn't rate & hence refused to play members of the Youth Team squad, on which the future finances of QPR rely. Given our signing policy in the recent window would indicate a similar strategy, this could be problematic.
Glory Lurker
10-05-2022, 08:25 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them.
Boris and Nicole?
S4uzee
10-05-2022, 08:27 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61402272
Down to four candidates. Johnson and Appleton two of them. Mackay, McInnes and Robinson not in the running.
How worrying
#2 Double Tap
10-05-2022, 08:28 PM
Can only hope the other two are something special as neither of those give me good vibes to be honest.
exactly how i feel.
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 08:29 PM
Jeezo.
SlickShoes
10-05-2022, 08:41 PM
If I had an interview lined up I would be sabotaging it.
Since452
10-05-2022, 08:47 PM
Hopefully Appleton and the other guys don't have Firesticks.
Nicho87
10-05-2022, 08:48 PM
If your a manager looking to ruin any sort of reputation you currently have feel free to fire you cv into hibs recruitment.
Shambles, complete and utter dross
Since452
10-05-2022, 08:52 PM
I'm already starting to worry about next season. Not impressed with the names mentioned from the English lower leagues and most of these players capitulating to Dundee are under long contracts. Relegation is a possibility if we don't get this right.
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