Winter 2019-20 transfer thread

[Captain Trips]

Why would he only get a proportion of wages due?

A football contract is fixed, unless a breach of contract, a club cannot wriggle out of paying the player the full contract value (otherwise clubs would do this all the time).

Of course, a deal could have been done with the player, but if not they would be liable for the lot.

They will have had to do a deal of course, say he was due 50k for rest of time at hearts they agree on pay off of 30k, He signs for a new club next week on same wage he is up 30k.

[NC1875]

Berra being paid off as well

[SMAXXA]

No footballer ever walks away from money to which they're entitled. Naismith in summer is a good example.

They defo do and believe me despite what seems the normal some players just want to play and like someone in his latter years he will likely take half of what he was due to get then earn the same wage somewhere else and play so getting out a ***** situation early and earning more money essentially, or earning a bit less should he not get a club but spend the next few months on the golf course. He’s likely made a few quid already so why they are paying him wouldn’t be impossible to leave on

[Stuart93]

See Lafferty hasn’t ruled out a return to hearts

[Percy Vere]

Glenn Whelan anyone?

Jeez!
Past it
Not training
Expensive

[MagicSwirlingShip]

See Lafferty hasn’t ruled out a return to hearts

Probably using hearts to get a bigger salary elsewhere. Absolute mercenary

[The 90+2]

I agree with you re younger players but you can never say that we shouldn't be buying pretty decent players and I mean pretty decent players at professional standard which is the level we are at. How else was I supposed interpret what you said? You seem to be moving the goal posts with every reply

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I’m not sure how you get that.

I replied to a post saying “he’s been pretty decent for us” the most important part is there is “with us” Pretty decent for us isn’t as good as pretty decent for Man City. But you know that. No idea what your gripe is tbh, Naismith has been pretty decent, but he’s not worth a transfer fee.

[Heisenberg]

Aberdeen in for McGeouch (again).

[Stanton Spence]

I don’t think we should be spending transfer fees on pretty decent tbh.Maybe if you had said we shouldn't be spending any fee for naismith instead of pretty decent? I've no gripe and maybe misread your post and didn't realise pretty decent was code for naismith
Back on topic I wouldn't mind us maybe paying a fee for the laddie Nisbet at dunfermline before he turns out to be a another shankland (potentially) who is now out of our range
You mentioned Magennis at St mirren he's another one we could maybe take a punt on, both gambles but we have to take chances earlier before they become out of our range

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[superfurryhibby]

They defo do and believe me despite what seems the normal some players just want to play and like someone in his latter years he will likely take half of what he was due to get then earn the same wage somewhere else and play so getting out a ***** situation early and earning more money essentially, or earning a bit less should he not get a club but spend the next few months on the golf course. He’s likely made a few quid already so why they are paying him wouldn’t be impossible to leave on



Players play for money, love of the game is secondary by the time you reach your 30’s. There will be exceptions, but I think they are pretty exceptional.

[hibsbollah]

Maybe if you had said we shouldn't be spending any fee for naismith instead of pretty decent? I've no gripe and maybe misread your post and didn't realise pretty decent was code for naismith
Back on topic I wouldn't mind us maybe paying a fee for the laddie Nisbet at dunfermline before he turns out to be a another shankland (potentially) who is now out of our range
You mentioned Magennis at St mirren he's another one we could maybe take a punt on, both gambles but we have to take chances earlier before they become out of our range

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Nisbet will end up at Hearts.

[BILLYHIBS]

Maybe if you had said we shouldn't be spending any fee for naismith instead of pretty decent? I've no gripe and maybe misread your post and didn't realise pretty decent was code for naismith
Back on topic I wouldn't mind us maybe paying a fee for the laddie Nisbet at dunfermline before he turns out to be a another shankland (potentially) who is now out of our range
You mentioned Magennis at St mirren he's another one we could maybe take a punt on, both gambles but we have to take chances earlier before they become out of our range

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Good shout

I would be disappointed if we have not had Kevin Nisbet watched seems to be scoring in the Championship regular as clockwork

[500miles]

What's Ross Docherty at Ayr united like? 26, club captain, defensive mid. Might be late to make the step up, but then again David Gray was league 2 when we signed him. We definitely need a leader in the middle of the park.

[Billy Whizz]

What's Ross Docherty at Ayr united like? 26, club captain, defensive mid. Might be late to make the step up, but then again David Gray was league 2 when we signed him. We definitely need a leader in the middle of the park.

Signed a pre contract with Partick

[brog]

They defo do and believe me despite what seems the normal some players just want to play and like someone in his latter years he will likely take half of what he was due to get then earn the same wage somewhere else and play so getting out a ***** situation early and earning more money essentially, or earning a bit less should he not get a club but spend the next few months on the golf course. He’s likely made a few quid already so why they are paying him wouldn’t be impossible to leave on

I understand & agree with what youre saying but that's not really a player leaving money on the table. That's a player receiving separate compensation from any shortfall due to him. There's very few, outside perhaps of galacticos, who will play for less than they're legally entitled.

[Winston Ingram]

Berra being paid off as well

He's been told he can go and to find a new club. I haven't seen anything of him being paid off.

To pay him off will cost a fortune. He's one of the highest-paid if not the highest-paid player and has 18 months left on his deal.

The state of him these days, he'll be lucky to get a Championship club.

[NC1875]

He's been told he can go and to find a new club. I haven't seen anything of him being paid off.

To pay him off will cost a fortune. He's one of the highest-paid if not the highest-paid player and has 18 months left on his deal.

The state of him these days, he'll be lucky to get a Championship club.

Can’t see him walking so if Stendel wants rid them he’ll need to be paid off. These benefactors will have to dig deep for the Jambos again.

[Winston Ingram]

Can’t see him walking so if Stendel wants rid them he’ll need to be paid off. These benefactors will have to dig deep for the Jambos again.

Me neither. He's no chance of picking up the money he's on anywhere else.

Even though he's well past his sell-by, I'd be stunned if they loan him to anyone around them at the bottom.

[Winston Ingram]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/glenn-whelan-departs

Whelan gone

[Since452]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/glenn-whelan-departs

Whelan gone

Either Stendel has completely lost the plot puntiing Whelan and the club captain in January or he's got better coming in. Very risky. Making Berra train with the reserves is a humiliating way to treat a great servant to the club imo

[Jones28]

Either Stendel has completely lost the plot puntiing Whelan and the club captain in January or he's got better coming in. Very risky. Making Berra train with the reserves is a humiliating way to treat a great servant to the club imo

It’s really poor treatment, but not many hearts fans I’ve seen care. They want the cull to stretch further.

[Waxy]

It’s really poor treatment, but not many hearts fans I’ve seen care. They want the cull to stretch further.

It all seems to be going Butcher.

[Real Emerald]

It’s really poor treatment, but not many hearts fans I’ve seen care. They want the cull to stretch further.

I think they’re right to clear players out but maybe not when they’re 5 points adrift at the bottom of the league in January. Add a couple of decent quality players and get them all fighting to stay up before culling in the summer would be a more risk free option. They could end up with a very disinterested squad in the same mould as Butcher had Hibs. It’s a very risky strategy, hope they get what’s coming to them.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Either Stendel has completely lost the plot puntiing Whelan and the club captain in January or he's got better coming in. Very risky. Making Berra train with the reserves is a humiliating way to treat a great servant to the club imo

Pretty cold, short statement on their site too re Wheelan. These changes are either going to revitalise or further destabilise the squad...here’s hoping it’s the latter.

[Onceinawhile]

It all seems to be going Butcher.

I'm not sure. Think it could go one of two ways either as you say, he's alienating respected professionals and dressing room leaders

or

He's getting rid of two players who don't fit his requirements and in Berra's case, as captain has presided over the worst dressing room in the league over the last year.

Hopefully it's the first and not the second.

[Since452]

I think they’re right to clear players out but maybe not when they’re 5 points adrift at the bottom of the league in January. Add a couple of decent quality players and get them all fighting to stay up before culling in the summer would be a more risk free option. They could end up when a very disinterested squad in the same mould as Butcher had Hibs. It’s a very risky strategy, hope they get what’s coming to them.

Exactly my thoughts. He's going for a massive gamble that might not pay off. Fenlon managed it in the January by bringing in loans and keeping us up and got us to a final so it can be done. I'd have thought he'd keep Berra around the dressing room at least though

[brog]

Either Stendel has completely lost the plot puntiing Whelan and the club captain in January or he's got better coming in. Very risky. Making Berra train with the reserves is a humiliating way to treat a great servant to the club imo

Its not very humane treatment but TBH Berra has been awful for some time now. He basically gave Celtc the cup in May. I was actually worried when he was injured just before the derby. TBF to Stendel he's worked it out pretty quickly & taken action. Whether it works is another matter.

[J-C]

These are all Levein signings and he's trying to get rid of the over paid over the hill ones. We seen Berra arguing with fans as he went up the tunnel, the dressing room won't be a nice place at the moment and Stendl is basically showing who's boss. This strategy doesn't always work, see Butcher.

[Percy Vere]

Exactly my thoughts. He's going for a massive gamble that might not pay off. Fenlon managed it in the January by bringing in loans and keeping us up and got us to a final so it can be done. I'd have thought he'd keep Berra around the dressing room at least though

This is like reading a Hearts Forum far less a transfer thread for Hibs.
Start worrying about what we’re doing not what they are doing.
We need a shake up too, our season could still go either way.

[Since452]

This is like reading a Hearts Forum far less a transfer thread for Hibs.
Start worrying about what we’re doing not what they are doing.
We need a shake up too, our season could still go either way.

There's not much happening at Hibs at the moment

[Winston Ingram]

It all seems to be going Butcher.

Tbf, they are in a far worse state that we were when Butcher arrived. We were 5th when Fenlon was binned and arguably needed a few tweeks then Butcher utterly destroyed the confidence of the whole squad.

Hearts are arguably in the state that Butcher left us in so a complete reboot is needed.

[Hibeesmad]

Liam Henderson told he can go out on loan according to the Daily Ranger.

[Hibeesmad]

Dylan McGeough also Aberdeen bound

[Heisenberg]

Looks like Dylan is away to Aberdeen.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/dylan-mcgeouch-set-aberdeen-transfer-21230676

[Col2]

Re Dylan. That’s crap. We should be 1st choice.

[Captain Trips]

If Dylan signs for Aberdeen I guess we are going to be getting lots of threads on how we missed out and its not on etc etc. Only relevant if Ross 100% without doubt wanted to sign him. If not then we can say that we missed out on every signing every club makes then.

[B.H.F.C]

Re Dylan. That’s crap. We should be 1st choice.

We should absolutely be giving him the choice to make.

All seems very quiet on the transfer front for us.

[SHODAN]

Finally we can put this to bed and move on.

[Brightside]

Re Dylan. That’s crap. We should be 1st choice.

Talk is we didnt want him. Just before everyone starts saying we have missed out.

[Heisenberg]

Ross obviously had him before and doesn’t think he’s worth spending the money on now. We badly need another couple in midfield.

[Centre Hawf]

If we don’t want McGeouch and he goes to Aberdeen and resembles anything like he was when he left us then the club needs a good shake.

[Real Emerald]

Talk is we didnt want him. Just before everyone starts saying we have missed out.

I’ve no idea if we did or didn’t want him but would seem strange since Ross signed him for Sunderland and reportedly persuaded him to stay there in the summer. Given he is definitely the type of player we could do with, we either have someone better lined up, no budget for it or can’t afford his wages.

[Captain Trips]

Talk is we didnt want him. Just before everyone starts saying we have missed out.

Agreed we only missed out if put in bid and I understand we have other irons in fire. Perfectly happy with that. IMO I would have taken him but its JR choice and therefore we are not interested so nothing to grumble about.

[Since452]

If Ross doesn't fancy him after having him at Sunderland I'm happy to go with his opinion

[AugustaHibs]

If Ross doesn't fancy him after having him at Sunderland I'm happy to go with his opinion

I don’t understand this. Do you honestly think hibs can get better?

[Heisenberg]

If we don’t want McGeouch and he goes to Aberdeen and resembles anything like he was when he left us then the club needs a good shake.

Trouble is Dylan was only properly good for us in his last season, imo. Before that he was inconsistent and injury prone. If he goes there and stays injury free/plays like he did in the second half of that last season then we’ll have missed out on a great player. There must be a reason Ross didn’t want to go for him now.

[Captain Trips]

I don’t understand this. Do you honestly think hibs can get better?

You not better to ask this to JR who knows the system we are going to play? I think DM would have been a good signing but maybe JR does not. Why focus on DM though if we didnt bid? Why not focus equally on every signing that Hearts,Motherwell, Killie etc sign who we equally didnt bid on? They might have done a job.

[Since452]

I don’t understand this. Do you honestly think hibs can get better?

In my opinion he's a good player who'd improve us but Ross is the one that saw him in training every day so happy to go with his judgement

[matty_f]

I don’t understand this. Do you honestly think hibs can get better?

Jack Ross wants a ball winning midfielder. I'm sure if we'd the budget for both we'd do it, but as it is we turned down the opportunity to sign McGeouch - if we'd wanted him he'd sign.

[Captain Trips]

Jack Ross wants a ball winning midfielder. I'm sure if we'd the budget for both we'd do it, but as it is we turned down the opportunity to sign McGeouch - if we'd wanted him he'd sign.

Correct our defence when called upon is struggling getting a ball winner in their to hopefully take some of the heat out the defence is key Dylan for me isn't that player and for me that player will be worth their weight if they perform so might be bigger part of budget to get it right.

[SHODAN]

We have a player ready-made for the McGeouch role in Hallberg.

[Deansy]

Nobody knows what's going on with DM, JR/Hibs yet, I'd ignore anything printed in a 'paper' (Hun fanzine) that's on it's last legs !

[Captain Trips]

We have a player ready-made for the McGeouch role in Hallberg.

Indeed and I am more than happy to see how that unfolds as the signs are good already, if we can bring in the players JR wants I think defence will benefit as will midfield.

[Stanton Spence]

Nisbet will end up at Hearts.I wouldn't like to see that happening, is Nisbet got any connection with hearts or have you heard any info about this mate?

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[Stokesy's on fire]

what a waste for Dylan if he ends up at a club like Aberdeen.

[Hibbyradge]

I don’t understand this. Do you honestly think hibs can get better?

Obviously Jack Ross does.

[bigwheel]

what a waste for Dylan if he ends up at a club like Aberdeen.

Why would that be ? They’ve had a recent history of good performances from midfielders ..Shinnie, McLean , their current guy of Ferguson ..

Feels like a good place for football in the SPL...

[Hibbyradge]

what a waste for Dylan if he ends up at a club like Aberdeen.

What do you mean?

[Unseen work]

Nobody knows what's going on with DM, JR/Hibs yet, I'd ignore anything printed in a 'paper' (Hun fanzine) that's on it's last legs !

A lot of places and people now saying it is happening

[hibsbollah]

I wouldn't like to see that happening, is Nisbet got any connection with hearts or have you heard any info about this mate?

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I do have a friend who's in the Pars reserves, but hes given me no inside information:greengrin Just a feeling I have. Crawford had them playing very progressive 'pass out from the back stuff', it stopped working and then they changed their philosophy, started punting it long to Nisbet which is when he started banging the goals in. So from what I understand he's scored most of his goals when theyve played route one, which is your standard hearts #9.

I remember being underwhelmed by him in the Raith game at ER last year, despite all the goals he scored he never really showed up in that game.

[ancient hibee]

Think Nisbet has a better league scoring record this season than Shankland despite Shankland being in a much better team.

[Centre Hawf]

Trouble is Dylan was only properly good for us in his last season, imo. Before that he was inconsistent and injury prone. If he goes there and stays injury free/plays like he did in the second half of that last season then we’ll have missed out on a great player. There must be a reason Ross didn’t want to go for him now.

I think Dylan was properly good for us throughout his time at the club when on the park. Admittedly though there were times when he was injured for far too long and I do remember near the end of that 2015/16 season there were murmurs of people losing patience with him, but there is no doubt in my mind that whenever he was fit and playing he was a class act.

That's probably the only question mark over him is his fitness, never his ability.

[we are hibs]

Of all the things you can aim at mcgeouch i dont think inconsistency is one. Will be severely dissapointed if he ends up at aberdeen.

[Stanton Spence]

I do have a friend who's in the Pars reserves, but hes given me no inside information:greengrin Just a feeling I have. Crawford had them playing very progressive 'pass out from the back stuff', it stopped working and then they changed their philosophy, started punting it long to Nisbet which is when he started banging the goals in. So from what I understand he's scored most of his goals when theyve played route one, which is your standard hearts #9.

I remember being underwhelmed by him in the Raith game at ER last year, despite all the goals he scored he never really showed up in that game.Cheers mate [emoji106] must admit I've not seen much of laddie but obviously noticed his goal scoring feats this season
Maybe klop lite won't fancy him giving your discription on the type of player he is

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[Unseen work]

Although we don’t really need his style of player, I find it difficult passing up a player of that quality.

We may not need his style but we need his ability would make him a starter.

Obviously it depends our budget but him plus a ball winning, defensive minded player would be good.

I think it’s more a case of we can’t justify him getting him when we already have Allan, Mallan and Hallberg centrally who are good on the ball but don’t offer much defensively.

[cabbage_88]

Its an absolute disgrace if we haven't went for Dylan it really is. Shocking from the club.

Was our best player the season he left IMO and at 26 should be coming into his prime. He has had injuries, but not in the scale like he had them earlier in his career.

Absolutely fuming Aberdeen appear to be signing him. Why on earth would we not want a consistently good player who knows the league well and has played the best football of his career at this club?! Absolutely baffling, the staff looking at players to sign really need to have a word with themselves.

Of course, maybe we have offered him a deal and he's chosen Aberdeen but I really really doubt that

[Peevemor]

Its an absolute disgrace if we haven't went for Dylan it really is. Shocking from the club.

Was our best player the season he left IMO and at 26 should be coming into his prime. He has had injuries, but not in the scale like he had them earlier in his career.

Absolutely fuming Aberdeen appear to be signing him. Why on earth would we not want a consistently good player who knows the league well and has played the best football of his career at this club?! Absolutely baffling, the staff looking at players to sign really need to have a word with themselves.

Of course, maybe we have offered him a deal and he's chosen Aberdeen but I really really doubt that

You seriously need to calm down mate.

[J-C]

Dylan when fit is a classy wee player but his best times with us was when he had McGinn beside him doing all the dirty work, we need a ball winning mid, not a Dylan type.

[cabbage_88]

You seriously need to calm down mate.

Find it absolutely bizarre we aren't looking at a player of his quality

[hibbyfraelibby]

Glenn Whelan anyone?

What as...a seat cleaner in the South Stand?

[Peevemor]

Dylan when fit is a classy wee player but his best times with us was when he had McGinn beside him doing all the dirty work, we need a ball winning mid, not a Dylan type.

I agree.

In fact I dread to think what would happen if he does come back given the expectations of some on here. He's not Pele FFS. We got a good (great?) season from him when he was playing alongside McGinn and then Allan fitted in brilliantly with the pair of them.

[hibsbollah]

Cheers mate [emoji106] must admit I've not seen much of laddie but obviously noticed his goal scoring feats this season
Maybe klop lite won't fancy him giving your discription on the type of player he is

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True, they might be genuine about wanting to play attractive football. I just cant imagine it:greengrin
You cant argue with 30+goals a season, and repeating it again in a higher league. I'd definitely be chuffed if we got him.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Berra being paid off as well

No he hasn't. He's been told to find another club and to train with the reserves. In other words he's holding out for a full pay off, told them to do one and they are now trying to sicken him into just leaving.


He has 18 months of wages due him for his retirement fund.

[Unseen work]

Mcgeouch will really strengthen and add a different side to Aberdeen too which is really concerning. A middle 3 of Aberdeen could be

.....Ojo/Bryson......Mcgeouch....Ferguson...

Which on paper is very strong

[hibbyfraelibby]

If Ross doesn't fancy him after having him at Sunderland I'm happy to go with his opinion

Ross took him to Sunderland to meet their needs. He's now at Hibs where the urgent needs are somewhat different from Dylan's strengths. Watch out for someone signing from an Italian side instead.

[Centre Hawf]

No he hasn't. He's been told to find another club and to train with the reserves. In other words he's holding out for a full pay off, told them to do one and they are now trying to sicken him into just leaving.


He has 18 months of wages due him for his retirement fund.

It'll be interesting if they let him go out on loan. Realistically him going to any other club in the bottom 6 would probably help their case of staying up due to how bad he is now. But not sure those at the club will see it that way.

[HendoDelivered]

Shame about Dylan, would love to see him back. Great signing for Aberdeen, sadly. May turn them into an actual football team.

[Heisenberg]

Ross took him to Sunderland to meet their needs. He's now at Hibs where the urgent needs are somewhat different from Dylan's strengths. Watch out for someone signing from an Italian side instead.

That last line...could it be....the return of Steven Pinau? (*disclaimer* I’ve **** all idea if he still plays in Italy, he’s just the most obscure player I could think of that we signed from an Italian team).

[Hibbyradge]

Find it absolutely bizarre we aren't looking at a player of his quality

There's no point in buying a player who won't fit into the manager's system.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Why would that be ? They’ve had a recent history of good performances from midfielders ..Shinnie, McLean , their current guy of Ferguson ..

Feels like a good place for football in the SPL...

They also have a fanbase of deluded jambo like roasters and a sort of fan base that's calling for the managers head. Aberdeen's also a pretty boring club with a very boring support.

[Stokesy's on fire]

You seriously need to calm down mate.

He has a valid point

[Jones28]

I think they’re right to clear players out but maybe not when they’re 5 points adrift at the bottom of the league in January. Add a couple of decent quality players and get them all fighting to stay up before culling in the summer would be a more risk free option. They could end up with a very disinterested squad in the same mould as Butcher had Hibs. It’s a very risky strategy, hope they get what’s coming to them.

I just don’t see it, they might bring in youngsters like Cohrane and Henderson and that’s all well and good and I’m sure they will put in the graft, but it means **** all if they can’t get a replacement for Berra and a striker who isn’t Uche, Mclean or Wighton because none of those are the answer.

I don’t want to make any predictions yet but if I was a hearts fan I would be seriously worried about things now.

They don’t have enough young kids to cover every position and the other more experienced players aren’t up for the fight.

[Hibs90]

Disgraceful if we are not in for Dylan

[Bobby's Cinema]

Mcgeouch will really strengthen and add a different side to Aberdeen too which is really concerning. A middle 3 of Aberdeen could be

.....Ojo/Bryson......Mcgeouch....Ferguson...

Which on paper is very strong
I wouldnt describe that midfield line-up as really concerning.

[SeanWilson]

We already have too many 'wee' midfielders. We need to sign a Marvin Bartley type, rather than another jinky luxury. If we could afford both, great; but I doubt it.

[cabbage_88]

There's no point in buying a player who won't fit into the manager's system.

Don't know how he wouldn't fit into the system. Twice the player than the likes of Slivka and Mallan. A new defensive mid and we could push Hallberg forward. Hallberg and Dylan would be a great combo with Allan in front

[Bobby's Cinema]

Disgraceful if we are not in for Dylan
Why is that? The manager has just worked with him and will have his own opinions. Let's give the manager the window and the summer and see what he does with it :aok:

[makaveli1875]

Don't know how he wouldn't fit into the system. Twice the player than the likes of Slivka and Mallan. A new defensive mid and we could push Hallberg forward. Hallberg and Dylan would be a great combo with Allan in front

Even if we wanted him Aberdeen would offer him more money anyway so I wouldnt lose too much sleep over it.

[Onceinawhile]

Ross took him to Sunderland to meet their needs. He's now at Hibs where the urgent needs are somewhat different from Dylan's strengths. Watch out for someone signing from an Italian side instead.

Liam Henderson :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Disgraceful if we are not in for Dylan

Even if the manager wouldn't have a place in the team for him?

[Unseen work]

Ross took him to Sunderland to meet their needs. He's now at Hibs where the urgent needs are somewhat different from Dylan's strengths. Watch out for someone signing from an Italian side instead.

Omeonga...

[K-Zazu]

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/18142682.dylan-mcgeouch-leaving-sunderland-join-aberdeen/

Joining Aberdeen

[soul_driver]

From sky sports transfer centre page...

MCNULTY HEADING TO HIBS

Marc McNulty is heading to Hibernian from Reading, according to the Northern Echo, a move which would cut short his current loan at Sunderland.

McNulty has scored five times in 20 games for Sunderland this season - but none of those under current boss Phil Parkinson.

[Since452]

From sky sports transfer centre page...

MCNULTY HEADING TO HIBS

Marc McNulty is heading to Hibernian from Reading, according to the Northern Echo, a move which would cut short his current loan at Sunderland.

McNulty has scored five times in 20 games for Sunderland this season - but none of those under current boss Phil Parkinson.

Yey at last a Hibs rumour

[B.H.F.C]

If McGeough is coming back to Scotland it should be to us. He’d have chosen us if he had the choice IMO.

A team that are already ahead of us are signing a player that would walk in to our midfield so it’s good for them and bad for us, IMO, whatever way you look at it.

[hfc rd]

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/18142682.dylan-mcgeouch-leaving-sunderland-join-aberdeen/

Joining Aberdeen


Gutted, especially seeing him join a rival ☹️

Could easily do with a player of his quality in our team.

[Vault Boy]

From sky sports transfer centre page...

MCNULTY HEADING TO HIBS

Marc McNulty is heading to Hibernian from Reading, according to the Northern Echo, a move which would cut short his current loan at Sunderland.

McNulty has scored five times in 20 games for Sunderland this season - but none of those under current boss Phil Parkinson.

The Northern Echo seems to be spraying about rumours like an errant fire hose.

[WhileTheChief..]

From the Daily Record...

Jack Ross wants to be reunited with three of his former Sunderland players, according to a report.

The Northern Echo say Dylan McGeouch, Jon McLaughlin and Marc McNulty are on his list in the January window.
McGeouch is also wanted by Aberdeen and Derek McInnes is expected to make a move soon but faces stiff competition.
He left Hibs to sign for Sunderland two years ago. McLaughlin’s move would be a controversial one given his status as a fan favourite across the city at Hearts, while McNulty enjoyed a loan spell at Easter Road last season.

[Since452]

McLaughlin a big Hibs fan I believe

[chrisski33]

Find it absolutely bizarre we aren't looking at a player of his quality

Says who? Have you not though hes shunned us for aberdeen? Let them pay his physio bills

[Vault Boy]

I don't think we need McLaughlin with the current keeper situation, however the seethe from Gorgie if we did sign him would almost make it worth it...

If Marciano leaves then McLaughlin could be a good option. Tough choice between him and Bogdan IMO.

[Brightside]

From sky sports transfer centre page...

MCNULTY HEADING TO HIBS

Marc McNulty is heading to Hibernian from Reading, according to the Northern Echo, a move which would cut short his current loan at Sunderland.

McNulty has scored five times in 20 games for Sunderland this season - but none of those under current boss Phil Parkinson.

Thats just a poor copy of Northern Echo puff piece.

[Unseen work]

I don't think we need McLaughlin with the current keeper situation, however the seethe from Gorgie if we did sign him would almost make it worth it...

If Marciano leaves then McLaughlin could be a good option. Tough choice between him and Bogdan IMO.

McLaughlin would be coming in as a starter imo.

[lord bunberry]

McLaughlin would be coming in as a starter imo.
The last thing we need is another goalkeeper. If people are saying we don’t need Dylan then we certainly don’t need another keeper.

[Unseen work]

The last thing we need is another goalkeeper. If people are saying we don’t need Dylan then we certainly don’t need another keeper.

I think we could do with a good consistent keeper.

I’d imagine with him in Marciano and Maxwell would be off with Bogdan being backup

[MikeyS]

If McGeough is coming back to Scotland it should be to us. He’d have chosen us if he had the choice IMO.

A team that are already ahead of us are signing a player that would walk in to our midfield so it’s good for them and bad for us, IMO, whatever way you look at it.

I'm no sure he would have chosen us given the choice. He was quite happy to let his contract run down previously & it appears he is going where the money is this time round.

Let's see who JR brings in before we all start getting hysterical!

[SHODAN]

He left Hibs to sign for Sunderland two years ago. McLaughlin’s move would be a controversial one given his status as a fan favourite across the city at Hearts, while McNulty enjoyed a loan spell at Easter Road last season.

Aside from a select few players we really aren't bothered re signing someone that previously played for them and vice versa. The DR really know nothing about the rivalry.

[matty_f]

The last thing we need is another goalkeeper. If people are saying we don’t need Dylan then we certainly don’t need another keeper.

I don't think we'll see the window close with the same keepers that we started it with.

[lord bunberry]

I think we could do with a good consistent keeper.

I’d imagine with him in Marciano and Maxwell would be off with Bogdan being backup
If those two are away then Bogdan should be our main keeper with a decent back up brought in. It would be mad to have a keeper like Bogdan as an understudy imo.

[lord bunberry]

I don't think we'll see the window close with the same keepers that we started it with.
That seems to be the general consensus, but at this stage we don’t need a new keeper unless they all leave.

[Centre Hawf]

Truth be told McNulty doesn’t fill me with much in the way of excitement. He was a decent loan player but i felt when the split came round and the games got tougher you seen his lack of ability against tougher opponents show. I’m not overly sold on him being an improvement on Flo or Doidge.

McLaughlin would he a good signing if Rocky is going. It feels like he’s nearing the end of his time here and if Maxwells loan is being cancelled then ending the window with him and Bogdan would be good but that obviously requires movement in other places first so I doubt we’ll see that materialise till late in the window.

[Victor]

I'm no sure he would have chosen us given the choice. He was quite happy to let his contract run down previously & it appears he is going where the money is this time round.

Let's see who JR brings in before we all start getting hysterical!

Agree. If he was happy at Hibs, he could have stayed. He has done little of note since he left, so have no idea why we would take him back. There is no guarantee that he will perform to the same standard. Let Aberdeen, or someone else take the risk.


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[Vault Boy]

Ross saying there's nothing to report on the transfer front and doesn't expect there to be anything for the week. 'Working with what he's got' for now.

[jeffers]

Truth be told McNulty doesn’t fill me with much in the way of excitement. He was a decent loan player but i felt when the split came round and the games got tougher you seen his lack of ability against tougher opponents show. I’m not overly sold on him being an improvement on Flo or Doidge.

McLaughlin would he a good signing if Rocky is going. It feels like he’s nearing the end of his time here and if Maxwells loan is being cancelled then ending the window with him and Bogdan would be good but that obviously requires movement in other places first so I doubt we’ll see that materialise till late in the window.

I liked McNulty and would be pleased to see him return. Doidge and Kamberi have some attributes he doesn't. but as an overall player he's better than both IMO. Lets be honest we were pretty pish as a team after the split, I wouldn't single McNulty out.

I'd personally surprised if we end up with both Bogdan and McLaughlin annd can't imagine either being happy to be 2nd choice, never mind how much we'd be spending on their wages.

[Peevemor]

Truth be told McNulty doesn’t fill me with much in the way of excitement. He was a decent loan player but i felt when the split came round and the games got tougher you seen his lack of ability against tougher opponents show. I’m not overly sold on him being an improvement on Flo or Doidge.

McLaughlin would he a good signing if Rocky is going. It feels like he’s nearing the end of his time here and if Maxwells loan is being cancelled then ending the window with him and Bogdan would be good but that obviously requires movement in other places first so I doubt we’ll see that materialise till late in the window.

In my time watching Hibs, I haven't seen anyone better at reading defensive lines and springing offside traps. I reckon he would be deadly playing in front of Allan and partnering either Flo or Doidge up front.

[we are hibs]

Mcnulty wasnt that great towards the end of the season. Infact there were some games he barely touched the ball.

[Peevemor]

Mcnulty wasnt that great towards the end of the season. Infact there were some games he barely touched the ball.

If a centre forward hardly touches the ball during a match, it isn't necessarily his fault.

[GreenCastle]

Was told a few weeks ago Jack Ross met Dylan for a chat.

Obviously chosen Aberdeen over us which is disappointing.

Would take McNulty back - scored all types of goals and looked happy playing for us.

[Brightside]

I don't think we'll see the window close with the same keepers that we started it with.

Is Maxwell in Spain? Not seen him anywhere, and I'd assume he would be first to go. Rocky will only be away if we have another keeper lined up.

[St Pauli Hibee]

Lyle Taylor anyone ?? out of contract with Charlton in the summer & has a decent record for them with 28 goals in 54 games

[Vault Boy]

Lyle Taylor anyone ?? out of contract with Charlton in the summer & has a decent record for them with 28 goals in 54 games

Turned down a new contract with a EFL Championship club, he'll be on way more than we can afford and will be looking for an English club.

[GreenCastle]

Did Hibs release a list of players travelling to Spain?

[Jonnyboy]

I liked Dylan at Hibs and I’d have liked to see him back but it looks like it’s not to be. What I don’t get is the willingness of many on this thread to criticise the club when the truth may be that it was Dylan’s choice to make. Whatever the truth of the matter is I do find the use of words like disgraceful and the likes as those views are based on zero knowledge of the facts of the matter.

Who knows, JR may just sign someone better and more to the point a player who fills the much and long needed defensive midfielder role.

[Centre Hawf]

In my time watching Hibs, I haven't seen anyone better at reading defensive lines and springing offside traps. I reckon he would be deadly playing in front of Allan and partnering either Flo or Doidge up front.

I don’t mean to sound nippy but McNulty certainly isn’t close to being the best I’ve seen at those things in a Hibs jersey and I’m only in my late 20’s.

I think he’s a fine striker. He has some good attributes, and he is certainly good at the things you’ve mentioned. But as someone else eluded to he went through games without touching the ball. It’s not someone I’d be overly fussed about especially if we use up a chunk of our budget when we’re clearly desperate for other signings positions

[Peevemor]

I liked Dylan at Hibs and I’d have liked to see him back but it looks like it’s not to be. What I don’t get is the willingness of many on this thread to criticise the club when the truth may be that it was Dylan’s choice to make. Whatever the truth of the matter is I do find the use of words like disgraceful and the likes as those views are based on zero knowledge of the facts of the matter.

Who knows, JR may just sign someone better and more to the point a player who fills the much and long needed defensive midfielder role.

The same thing's happening for half the threads on the board.

[NAE NOOKIE]

If we signed McLaughlin then it must be on the back of losing two of the keepers we have, for a team of our size to have 4 genuine first team keepers on our books would be mental, especially with a number of outfield spots we could do to be improving on.

As for Dylan, it could be as simple as an attitude of 'never go back' and considering his status at Hibs why would he choose to endanger that legacy when he can join a similar club probably on higher wages.

McNulty would be a decent addition, he has it in him to be a 15 to 20 goals a season striker in this league if he gets the service he needs and for sure we need a 3rd proven striker.

[Hibs90]

From sky sports transfer centre page...

MCNULTY HEADING TO HIBS

Marc McNulty is heading to Hibernian from Reading, according to the Northern Echo, a move which would cut short his current loan at Sunderland.

McNulty has scored five times in 20 games for Sunderland this season - but none of those under current boss Phil Parkinson.

Was poor towards the end of the season, like others have said barely touched the ball in some games.


Even if the manager wouldn't have a place in the team for him?

Yes. He would improve that midfield straight away. An upgrade on Slivka, Mallan and probably Hallberg. If Hibs have got in touch and he's said no then fine, but we should definitely have at least sounded him out. Absolutely nothing wrong with having too many good players.

[Peevemor]

I don’t mean to sound nippy but McNulty certainly isn’t close to being the best I’ve seen at those things in a Hibs jersey and I’m only in my late 20’s.

I think he’s a fine striker. He has some good attributes, and he is certainly good at the things you’ve mentioned. But as someone else eluded to he went through games without touching the ball. It’s not someone I’d be overly fussed about especially if we use up a chunk of our budget when we’re clearly desperate for other signings positions

That's fair enough - you're entitled to your opinion. Out of interest, who do you think is/was better?

I'm not speaking about finishing or other skills, only reading the line and timing runs (and without being caught offside every 2 minutes).

[G B Young]

Mcnulty wasnt that great towards the end of the season. Infact there were some games he barely touched the ball.

The whole team went off the boil for those final few games. I'd be happy to see McNulty back on a permanent deal. He's been a bit of a nomad of late and a chance to put down roots at the club he supports would, I imagine, appeal to him. Based on what I've seen of him he's a more consistent striker than anyone we have up front at present.

[Centre Hawf]

That's fair enough - you're entitled to your opinion. Out of interest, who do you think is/was better?

I'm not speaking about finishing or other skills, only reading the line and timing runs (and without being caught offside every 2 minutes).

I’m probably being a bit harsh on McNulty in saying he’s nowhere near the best tbf. I think the best for me was Griffiths. He obviously had this terrific finish on him from distance but the amount of games he managed to get in behind one v one by bending his run and finding gaps between defenders was excellent. His goal in the first derby after the 5-1 final and the winner from the tight angle against Celtic come to mind first as examples.

[Since452]

McNulty is an intelligent striker and very good off the ball. There was so much more to his game than just putting the ball in the net. If we were to get him we'd have three strikers with three completey different but strong attributes. I think he'd be a cracking signing.

[Just_Jimmy]

I loved Dylan at Hibs. I was gutted when he left and I'd love him back. However through out everything it's always struck me that Dylan doesn't care much for Hibs and that'll he go wherever he gets most money.

I'm not particularly bothered by that because it's the way of the world. It's just nippy that as usual we get look likely to get out bid by Aberdeen. Especially when we have connections to the players in question.

This is all subject to the fact Hibs actually wanted to bring him back of course.

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[Hibs90]

Apparently no transfer activity this week according to Jack Ross on HTV.

Disappointing.

[Real Emerald]

The whole team went off the boil for those final few games. I'd be happy to see McNulty back on a permanent deal. He's been a bit of a nomad of late and a chance to put down roots at the club he supports would, I imagine, appeal to him. Based on what I've seen of him he's a more consistent striker than anyone we have up front at present.

I didn’t think he was that brilliant but he’s better than what we have at the moment or at least would compliment what we have. The upshot is he also seems to want to be here and that has to be a good thing. I think he was really looking to stay at the end of last season but it was out of his control.

[Pretty Boy]

Apparently no transfer activity this week according to Jack Ross on HTV.

Disappointing.

I'm not hugely bothered tbh.

This month should be a sticking plaster, maybe even just a couple of loans, unless anything outstanding presents itself.

Our squad is all over the place (4 RBs, 1 LB as an obvious example) and it's going to be a relatively prolonged job sorting it out. Trying to shift a few bodies out the door in the summer, sweeping the decks clear and staring again is arguably a decent strategy rather than signing for the sake of it in January. File this season under 'another disappointment'.

[ancient hibee]

Apparently no transfer activity this week according to Jack Ross on HTV.

Disappointing.
You really shouldn’t believe anything a manager says in public as this time of the season.

[Just_Jimmy]

I'm not hugely bothered tbh.

This month should be a sticking plaster, maybe even just a couple of loans, unless anything outstanding presents itself.

Our squad is all over the place (4 RBs, 1 LB as an obvious example) and it's going to be a relatively prolonged job sorting it out. Trying to shift a few bodies out the door in the summer, sweeping the decks clear and staring again is arguably a decent strategy rather than signing for the sake of it in January. File this season under 'another disappointment'.That's a solid argument. I'd agree but I'd add that if a player of quality who is an upgrade becomes available then we should be signing them.

I'd far rather we reached out and signed 1 or 2 of genuine quality be it now or summer, than 7 or 8 of the dross we signed last summer.

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[Steven79]

Apparently no transfer activity this week according to Jack Ross on HTV.

Disappointing.He would say that wouldn't he?

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[BILLYHIBS]

I’m probably being a bit harsh on McNulty in saying he’s nowhere near the best tbf. I think the best for me was Griffiths. He obviously had this terrific finish on him from distance but the amount of games he managed to get in behind one v one by bending his run and finding gaps between defenders was excellent. His goal in the first derby after the 5-1 final and the winner from the tight angle against Celtic come to mind first as examples.

Give us the real Sparky

[J-C]

The whole team went off the boil for those final few games. I'd be happy to see McNulty back on a permanent deal. He's been a bit of a nomad of late and a chance to put down roots at the club he supports would, I imagine, appeal to him. Based on what I've seen of him he's a more consistent striker than anyone we have up front at present.

I thought McNulty was a Celtic supporter.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I thought McNulty was a Celtic supporter.

Definitely from a family of Celtic fans

[hfc rd]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and really hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.

[Steven79]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.Doubt we could afford his wages.

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[Centre Hawf]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.

Id love that. But doubt it.

[Pretty Boy]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.

I don't see why it would be unpopular. Very good player at this level.

Not sure how realistic it is though.

[Real Emerald]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.
He wouldn’t get away with his constant fouling if he played for us. Got away with murder at the sheep.

[Peevemor]

I don't see why it would be unpopular. Very good player at this level.

Not sure how realistic it is though.

I would definitely take him, but I can't see it either.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not hugely bothered tbh.

This month should be a sticking plaster, maybe even just a couple of loans, unless anything outstanding presents itself.

Our squad is all over the place (4 RBs, 1 LB as an obvious example) and it's going to be a relatively prolonged job sorting it out. Trying to shift a few bodies out the door in the summer, sweeping the decks clear and staring again is arguably a decent strategy rather than signing for the sake of it in January. File this season under 'another disappointment'.

I don’t think we should be writing this season off just yet. We still have a chance of getting into Europe with the right recruitment this window. Euro footy is a massive part of our business plan and has potential to massively improve our player budget next season.


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[Ozyhibby]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and really hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.

No chance that would be unpopular. He is exactly the type we need but I doubt we can afford his wages.


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[B.H.F.C]

I don’t think we should be writing this season off just yet. We still have a chance of getting into Europe with the right recruitment this window. Euro footy is a massive part of our business plan and has potential to massively improve our player budget next season.


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Also got the Scottish Cup to play for.

[The 90+2]

He wouldn’t get away with his constant fouling if he played for us. Got away with murder at the sheep.

Why would he get away with it at Aberdeen but not us?

[HendoDelivered]

McNulty rumours untrue according to his old boy anyway.

[we are hibs]

Why would he get away with it at Aberdeen but not us?

Seen a stat that aberdeen get away with 9 fouls before a booking on average which is the most leniant in the league. Celtic and rangers unsurprisingly close behind.


Hibs a booking every 6 fouls which is the 2nd harshest in the league with only st.mirren worse off.

[jacomo]

Give us the real Sparky


:agree:

WHY ARE WE NOT SIGNING LEIGH??!

Celtc don’t want him, he doesn’t want to move down South, Petrie is out of the picture so Lawwell can get over himself, and he would strengthen us v Celtc’s ugly sister.

Cmon now!

[Dmas]

McNulty rumours untrue according to his old boy anyway.

Good I don’t see the clamour for him, thought he was poor and probably on the same level as doidge we need better than that IMO

[Hibbyradge]

:agree:

WHY ARE WE NOT SIGNING LEIGH??!

Celtc don’t want him, he doesn’t want to move down South, Petrie is out of the picture so Lawwell can get over himself, and he would strengthen us v Celtc’s ugly sister.

Cmon now!

AFAIK, Celtic won't deal with us after SJM even if we wanted to buy him, which we couldn't actually afford.

[BILLYHIBS]

Also got the Scottish Cup to play for.

Potential banana skin lying in wait at Tannadice

We need to hit the ground running from the first whistle

No prisoners

No passengers

[Ozyhibby]

AFAIK, Celtic won't deal with us after SJM even if we wanted to buy him, which we couldn't actually afford.

Celtic will soon get over that when we have another player they want. [emoji849]


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[CockneyRebel]

Even if we wanted him Aberdeen would offer him more money anyway so I wouldnt lose too much sleep over it.


.....and...no more needs to be said, he will follow the money.

[CockneyRebel]

:agree:

WHY ARE WE NOT SIGNING LEIGH??!

Celtc don’t want him, he doesn’t want to move down South, Petrie is out of the picture so Lawwell can get over himself, and he would strengthen us v Celtc’s ugly sister.

Cmon now!


Wages!

[SMAXXA]

AFAIK, Celtic won't deal with us after SJM even if we wanted to buy him, which we couldn't actually afford.

Laugh when this is trotted out it’s simply not true

[BILLYHIBS]

Celtic will soon get over that when we have another player they want. [emoji849]


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Porto

[Since90+2]

Porto

Porteuos is a good young player but I can't help think he's been slightly overrated by some (myself included). He has bags of potential but still has a lot of learning to do.

[Ozyhibby]

Porteuos is a good young player but I can't help think he's been slightly overrated by some (myself included). He has bags of potential but still has a lot of learning to do.

A massive amount of learning to do. Needs to learn to stay on his feet and his positional play needs work. He has massive potential though but that’s all it is just now.


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[1van Sprou7e]

Porteuos is a good young player but I can't help think he's been slightly overrated by some (myself included). He has bags of potential but still has a lot of learning to do.

I think most of us are in that boat now. Reckon he was better with efe next to him (as most defenders would be)

[Real Emerald]

Why would he get away with it at Aberdeen but not us?

No idea but he definitely got away with foul after foul after foul before he got cards at Aberdeen and our player don’t. I’m sure it was well documented with other teams supporters too, he was practically reffing the game himself. He also liked a dive which usually went unnoticed too. He is a decent player mind you apart from that.

[Hibbyradge]

Laugh when this is trotted out it’s simply not true

What leads you to that conclusion?

Last I read, and it was recently, was that the relationship was broken, or words to that effect.

[BILLYHIBS]

I think most of us are in that boat now. Reckon he was better with efe next to him (as most defenders would be)

Still young needs to work on his concentration, positional sense, discipline, read the game better cut out the rashness from his game and remain focused for ninety minutes

Hopefully he will benefit from the unexpected wee break he had prior to the winter break and come back batteries recharged and learn to keep the heid

At times he is like a HIBS supporter playing for HIBS

What’s not to like?

[Col2]

Apparently no transfer activity this week according to Jack Ross on HTV.

Disappointing.

We must be looking to reduce costs.

[Centre Hawf]

We must be looking to reduce costs.

I reckon we may see a few exits this window. Vela, James, Rocky, and maybe Flo and Newall.

[Stokesy's on fire]

.....and...no more needs to be said, he will follow the money.

When did Aberdeen gain the spending power of Real Madrid? We could compete with that lot financially all day long and so we should.

[Billy Whizz]

When did Aberdeen gain the spending power of Real Madrid? We could compete with that lot financially all day long and so we should.

Think they turnover about £5m per year more than Hibs

[Greencore]

Ron, get your cheque book out 😉

[Since452]

Porteuos is a good young player but I can't help think he's been slightly overrated by some (myself included). He has bags of potential but still has a lot of learning to do.

Massively. I was more comfortable with Daz in his place for the derby. Porteous will be the next player to leave Hibs for big money but plenty to improve on yet

[Since452]

I reckon we may see a few exits this window. Vela, James, Rocky, and maybe Flo and Newall.

Hmm not sure with Newell. Was coming on to a right good game before his injury

[Real Emerald]

Ron, get your cheque book out 😉

Not in relation to Dylan as we don’t know any of the facts but I would expect someone who bought a football team with ambition to be the best of the rest to be able to finance a player we may have lost out on before he took over. It would be nice to see a bit of financial muscle from his ownership in our transfer dealings. It may still come but there’s little evidence so far.

[HoboHarry]

Still young needs to work on his concentration, positional sense, discipline, read the game better cut out the rashness from his game and remain focused for ninety minutes

Hopefully he will benefit from the unexpected wee break he had prior to the winter break and come back batteries recharged and learn to keep the heid

At times he is like a HIBS supporter playing for HIBS

What’s not to like?
I said a while back on a thread that while we are all bigging up Porteous there are massive teams like Bayern (I think) actually signing 16 year old's from Celtic and then this week Man City buying the youngster from Killie. As far as I am aware no-one has attempted to buy Porteous.....

[Centre Hawf]

Hmm not sure with Newell. Was coming on to a right good game before his injury

Certainly was doing better but if someone fancied taking him I’d be fine.

[BILLYHIBS]

I said a while back on a thread that while we are all bigging up Porteous there are massive teams like Bayern (I think) actually signing 16 year old's from Celtic and then this week Man City buying the youngster from Killie. As far as I am aware no-one has attempted to buy Porteous.....

Agree but has massive potential made the last Scotland squad and I confidently predict he will be sold for big bucks maybes not this year or next year as nowhere near the finished article but will be our next big transfer fee

[HoboHarry]

Agree but has massive potential made the last Scotland squad and I confidently predict he will be sold for big bucks maybes not this year or next year as nowhere near the finished article but will be our next big transfer fee
I don't doubt will get a decent transfer fee for him, I just wonder why no clubs (apparently) have made a move for him. They are clearly not seeing what some of us see......

[Col2]

Ron, get your cheque book out 😉

Ron is not spending any dosh. He will see the mess we have made in recruitment and look to cut tthe squad down.

[Wilson]

I don't doubt will get a decent transfer fee for him, I just wonder why no clubs (apparently) have made a move for him. They are clearly not seeing what some of us see......

And McGinn was touted for a big move for several transfer windows before he actually got one. I guess for the sort of fee we'd be asking for clubs will want to be sure of what they're getting. A bit more experience and a couple of standout performances in the big games and the offers will come.

[superfurryhibby]

We must be looking to reduce costs.


Ron is not spending any dosh. He will see the mess we have made in recruitment and look to cut tthe squad down.

Thus speaketh the voice of doom.........cutting the squad down and reducing costs? Nah, you’re way off track.

Actually, the recruitment this year wasn’t really that bad was it? The main failure has been Vela, the other’s have all made reasonable contributions. The club is hardly full of players drawing decent wages and contributing zilch.

[AlbertK86]

You really shouldn’t believe anything a manager says in public as this time of the season.

Agree.

Felt he was keeping current squad on board in case we don’t get our targets


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[AlbertK86]

Might be an unpopular option amongst many on here but what about Graeme Shinnie? He is hardly getting a look in under Cocu at Derby.

Always reminded me as one of those players, you’d really appreciate in your team and really hate if you were the opposition. Can play CDM and also cover at LB. Two positions that need addressing.

Would definitely take him as he is exactly what we need ... dirty wee bassa that’s a leader on the park

Might have to be a loan due to wages


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[The 90+2]

What leads you to that conclusion?

Last I read, and it was recently, was that the relationship was broken, or words to that effect.

Wouldn’t it be repaired a little when Petrie left as it was mainly a Petrie Lawwel issue.

[BILLYHIBS]

Wouldn’t it be repaired a little when Petrie left as it was mainly a Petrie Lawwel issue.

Got a gut feeling Lenny no longer likes us though :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

AFAIK, Celtic won't deal with us after SJM even if we wanted to buy him, which we couldn't actually afford.
Anyone who believes that has no concept of business dealings. It's all about money and it doesn't matter a great deal where it comes from. Unless of course it's Sevco or Hearts and you can't be sure you will be paid.

[Onceinawhile]

Thus speaketh the voice of doom.........cutting the squad down and reducing costs? Nah, you’re way off track.

Actually, the recruitment this year wasn’t really that bad was it? The main failure has been Vela, the other’s have all made reasonable contributions. The club is hardly full of players drawing decent wages and contributing zilch.

Jackson and James can't really be seen as a success.

Jury probably still out on Newell and Doidge as well.

[04Sauzee]

St Mirren have signed a couple of guys from Ireland

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51021616

[B.H.F.C]

Thus speaketh the voice of doom.........cutting the squad down and reducing costs? Nah, you’re way off track.

Actually, the recruitment this year wasn’t really that bad was it? The main failure has been Vela, the other’s have all made reasonable contributions. The club is hardly full of players drawing decent wages and contributing zilch.

James and Jackson can’t get a game despite us having been dreadful defensively. Maxwell now appears to be third choice. Vela abysmal. Middleton loan cut short. Newell still has a lot to prove. Doidge and Naismith would get pass marks.

Not very good at all.

[superfurryhibby]

Jackson and James can't really be seen as a success.

Jury probably still out on Newell and Doidge as well.

I said “ reasonable contributions”. My point was that we don’t have a bloated squad. Therefore the poster I quoted who said Ron Gordon’s intention was to cutting costs and reducing the squad is way off the mark.

[Centre Hawf]

Thus speaketh the voice of doom.........cutting the squad down and reducing costs? Nah, you’re way off track.

Actually, the recruitment this year wasn’t really that bad was it? The main failure has been Vela, the other’s have all made reasonable contributions. The club is hardly full of players drawing decent wages and contributing zilch.

Jackson, James and Vela both look like they're not wanted.
Middleton is gone.
Newell hasn't actually contributed anything meaningful beyond flashes of what looks like a footballer.
Doidge took forever to score and the jury is still out on him long term.
Maxwell wasn't great and looks like he's not going to be more than third choice now.

Naismith and Halberg look the only two that have worked out, and even then Naismith has been mostly just steady.

The recruitment department (including Heckingbottom I assume) had a bit of a stinker in the summer, and they also made some questionable signings in January (Bigirimana, Johnson, Spector,) and the summer (Hyndman, Agyepong, Nelom, Mavrias) window before that. I don't hold out that much hope that they'll get it right this time round either to be honest, but Mathie is now in charge so lets hope he gets it right.

[Hibbyradge]

Wouldn’t it be repaired a little when Petrie left as it was mainly a Petrie Lawwel issue.

I don't know. I'm repeating what I read from someone who I thought would know.

[Hibbyradge]

Anyone who believes that has no concept of business dealings. It's all about money and it doesn't matter a great deal where it comes from. Unless of course it's Sevco or Hearts and you can't be sure you will be paid.

I get that, but loaning a player to us is more of a favour than a hard nosed business deal.

There are loads of clubs who would give Leigh Griffiths a regular game, even if his preference was us.

Furthermore, businessmen can be stubborn and illogical just like the rest of us.

Having said that, I hope what I posted isn't true and that we see Sparky in a Hibs shirt by the first if February.

[Crab apple]

James and Jackson can’t get a game despite us having been dreadful defensively. Maxwell now appears to be third choice. Vela abysmal. Middleton loan cut short. Newell still has a lot to prove. Doidge and Naismith would get pass marks.

Not very good at all.

Our recruitment this summer was poor under PH and we’ll suffer the effects of this for a wee while yet.

[B.H.F.C]

Our recruitment this summer was poor under PH and we’ll suffer the effects of this for a wee while yet.

Indeed. For all we’re having a laugh at Hearts being stuck with Berra we have a number of players on contracts, probably good contracts by our standards, that we won’t be able to shift easily. Guys like Vela and Jackson are never going to contribute anything but won’t be easy to shift. And if we can’t shift them, we’re going to be limited in what we can do.

[Nicho87]

Any aspirations for Europe?

It’s almost now like that this season is a free hit to get the squad set for next season.

If it was me I’d bin a good of them. Ross will have done his homework and watched games back by now.

If anyone can come in and replace I’d easily bin
Vela, James, Maxwell, Slivka, Shaw, Murray, Whittaker, Jackson, Newell.

Would move on in the summer, Stevenson, Hanlon, Doidge, Mallan.

Complete overhaul required to remove dead wood.

[B.H.F.C]

Ross saying Maxwell will be going. Also, based on this quote, I’m not expecting a busy Month.

“The deal for Adam is not quite settled yet, but hopefully that will soon be the case.

“Beyond that, I don’t think we’re in a position where we can do a huge amount at the moment.

“That might change as the window goes on if we can trim the squad in any way.

[SteveHFC]

Ross suggestion not a lot of funds available to get new players in?

Are we really that skint.

[HoboHarry]

Ross suggestion not a lot of funds available to get new players in?

Are we really that skint.

He's saying exactly what I expected. Can't spend big right now but if we ship some out that will change.

[04Sauzee]

Ross saying Maxwell will be going. Also, based on this quote, I’m not expecting a busy Month.

“The deal for Adam is not quite settled yet, but hopefully that will soon be the case.

“Beyond that, I don’t think we’re in a position where we can do a huge amount at the moment.

“That might change as the window goes on if we can trim the squad in any way.
Before Heckingbottom was sacked Hibs said they know what we needed in January. There will be a few mew faces this Month. I'm confident about that.

[B.H.F.C]

Ross suggestion not a lot of funds available to get new players in?

Are we really that skint.

We blew it in the summer, simple as that IMO. Overpriced garbage from England.

[ElginHibbie]

Ross suggestion not a lot of funds available to get new players in?

Are we really that skint.

Fairly sure every manager we have had has said that at some point during a transfer window in recent years, standard not showing you hand tactics

[Hibeesmad]

Murray and Shaw out on loan, Vela away and Maxwell/Middleton's loans cut short would seem pretty realistic. A defensive midfielder and striker brought in along with Bogdan.

[HoboHarry]

Fairly sure every manager we have had has said that at some point during a transfer window in recent years, standard not showing you hand tactics
Happy new year mate from one Elgin Hibee to another.....👍

[ElginHibbie]

Happy new year mate from one Elgin Hibee to another.....👍

:party:

[Heisenberg]

Really got to thank Paul Heckingbottom for landing us with such a dreadful unbalanced squad. Going into January having to wheel and deal so we can afford to sign a defensive midfielder is some laugh.

[Percy Vere]

AFAIK, Celtic won't deal with us after SJM even if we wanted to buy him, which we couldn't actually afford.

Took our manager back!

[GreenCastle]

Murray and Shaw out on loan, Vela away and Maxwell/Middleton's loans cut short would seem pretty realistic. A defensive midfielder and striker brought in along with Bogdan.

Yup I can see this too.

Not ideal if 5 out and 2 in though. Well 3 with Gullan back.

Expect Naismith (in Spain) to extend till end of season too.

Hecky spent lots of the budget hence we had the Shaw loan chat near end of the last window.

[Hibeesmad]

Yup I can see this too.

Not ideal if 5 out and 2 in though. Well 3 with Gullan back.

Expect Naismith (in Spain) to extend till end of season too.

Hecky spent lots of the budget hence we had the Shaw loan chat near end of the last window.

If we extend Naismith's stay then maybe try and get James out on loan. Especially with Gray back.

[04Sauzee]

Yup I can see this too.

Not ideal if 5 out and 2 in though. Well 3 with Gullan back.

Expect Naismith (in Spain) to extend till end of season too.

Hecky spent lots of the budget hence we had the Shaw loan chat near end of the last window.
Wonder if Naismith will extend.
Gray ready to olay again and we still have James.
Unless we move James on?

[Hibbyradge]

Took our manager back!

Lennon wasn't our manager and Lawell didn't have to deal with Hibs.

[hibbysam]

Not accepting that our budget is gone, unless our backroom costs are extortionate.

Massive season ticket sales, money from McGinn promotion, not a lot of fees paid in the summer, a semi final reached already, saving £500k from previous years as debt written off.

There simply has to be money there or questions must be asked in where it is going.

We are clearly at least 2/3 quality players away from being competitive in the second half of the season and a decent Scottish cup run, otherwise we will get pumped out early and risk finishing in the bottom 6.

[Hibeesmad]

Not accepting that our budget is gone, unless our backroom costs are extortionate.

Massive season ticket sales, money from McGinn promotion, not a lot of fees paid in the summer, a semi final reached already, saving £500k from previous years as debt written off.

There simply has to be money there or questions must be asked in where it is going.

Paying up Lennon, Parker, Heckingbottom and Stockdale would have cost a hefty lot. Maybe we will get more insight once we have the AGM.. whenever that is.

[GreenCastle]

Not accepting that our budget is gone, unless our backroom costs are extortionate.

Massive season ticket sales, money from McGinn promotion, not a lot of fees paid in the summer, a semi final reached already, saving £500k from previous years as debt written off.

There simply has to be money there or questions must be asked in where it is going.

We are clearly at least 2/3 quality players away from being competitive in the second half of the season and a decent Scottish cup run, otherwise we will get pumped out early and risk finishing in the bottom 6.

AGM could come at a nice time to ask these questions if this window doesn’t see much change that even the average punter can see what we are lacking.

[SMAXXA]

Wonder if Naismith will extend.
Gray ready to olay again and we still have James.
Unless we move James on?

I wouldn’t be bothered if Naismith left I like him he’s been ok but I’d be happy with gray and James with Whittaker as a 3rd choice if we can’t move him on. Suppose we need to make calls on loan players and those on longer term perm deals only way I suspect we will see decent additions, as much as loaning out the few young lads I don’t think it’s going to make a massive dent in the finances.

I do think if we don’t add a couple of players with good quality we could easily get dragged into the bottom end again.

[we are hibs]

Maybe ron should "pony up" if we are lacking in funds for players.

[Heisenberg]

Maybe ron should "pony up" if we are lacking in funds for players.

He’s already done plenty so far in terms of cash. Not his fault a ***** manager was trusted with it in the summer.

[SMAXXA]

Maxwell going back to preston and will be moved on elsewhere for game time

[DarlingtonHibee]

AGM could come at a nice time to ask these questions if this window doesn’t see much change that even the average punter can see what we are lacking.

If we ever get a date for the agm 🙄🙄🙄

I'm sure the accounts were up to the 30th June last year...

[MWHIBBIES]

We blew it in the summer, simple as that IMO. Overpriced garbage from England.

Why does them being from England matter? Always wondered this. Doidge and Newall have played a good part in us climbing the table. Are they the garbage you refer to?

[04Sauzee]

Maxwell going back to preston and will be moved on elsewhere for game time

I'm not disappointed in this, hope he kicks on somewhere else.

[AlbertK86]

Lots on here saying due to funds we ain’t bringing anybody in.

JR has consistently said he thinks squad is to big and wants to trim so he can give opportunities to youngsters as well.

To me he will be hoping the club can empty certain players hopefully 5-6 and bring in a couple of quality players either on loan or permanent


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[Unseen work]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/chris-maxwell-set-hibs-exit-21232783

Doesn’t sound particularly great regarding funds to bring new players in however I never really believe anything managers say - that said it’s a massive blow for fans to hear.

Do think we will see a couple of players move on however to try and make way for more coming in. Guys like Jackson, Vela, James, Maxwell and even Slivka could go with minimal fuss - despite the potential they may or may not have, they’ve simply not done it nearly enough.

We need real quality in, Aberdeen have just signed McGeouch and allegedly signing O’Donnell from Killie and Kennedy from St Johnstone. That would leave them with a very strong squad and clear favourites for 3rd imo.

We need to make a statement of intent, Heckingbottom was very lucky in that he had a small squad to work with in the summer owing to contracts running out etc and he’s completely wasted it by signing poor players overall.

I’m not giving Gordon any stick about money, our budget was healthy before never mind his 7 figure cash injection and removing 500k of debt a year. What the club spends that on is another issue and not one he should answer as it’s not him spending it.

We don’t need to spend more but recruit better and smarter.

We have enough average players that could get us mid table, we need to aim higher and go for standout players that will take us to the next level.

Mcgeouch, Ambrose etc even though everyone has a difference of opinion on them coming back, they’re quality and would walk in our team.

Massive month for our season, fans morale and to put a warning to teams that we mean business

[B.H.F.C]

Why does them being from England matter? Always wondered this. Doidge and Newall have played a good part in us climbing the table. Are they the garbage you refer to?

James, Jackson, Vela, Maxwell. Garbage. Came from England. Pretty obvious really.

Newell and Doidge less garbage but still a long way to go, more so Newell.

[bingo70]

Why does them being from England matter? Always wondered this. Doidge and Newall have played a good part in us climbing the table. Are they the garbage you refer to?

I think it’s relevant because it’s a very expensive market.

Similar standard of player is cheaper abroad.

[Hibee Mac]

What a disaster of a summer window just gone.

[bingo70]

James, Jackson, Vela, Maxwell. Garbage. Came from England. Pretty obvious really.

Newell and Doidge less garbage but still a long way to go, more so Newell.

Newell has been ***** too imo. Looked a bit better when moved infield a bit but you’re lucky if he’s had 2 good full games. A not bad 30 minutes here or there is nowhere near good enough.

[Heisenberg]

I dread to think how much we continue to pay Josh Vela. Absolute waste.

[B.H.F.C]

Newell has been ***** too imo. Looked a bit better when moved infield a bit but you’re lucky if he’s had 2 good full games. A not bad 30 minutes here or there is nowhere near good enough.

Overall definitely not had anywhere near enough from him.

Even Doidge, we need more of a goal threat more often. He’s still done ok in some games when he’s not scored, but you’re lucky if he’s had an effort on goal in the last four or five games.

[B.H.F.C]

I think it’s relevant because it’s a very expensive market.

Similar standard of player is cheaper abroad.

Correct. Or at home for that matter.

Prices are over inflated in England and those guys aren’t coming up here for less than they’d get staying closer to home.

[bingo70]

Overall definitely not had anywhere near enough from him.

Even Doidge, we need more of a goal threat more often. He’s still done ok in some games when he’s not scored, but you’re lucky if he’s had an effort on goal in the last four or five games.

Exactly.

Pish summer transfer window, pish first half of the season and to me it doesn’t look like it’ll be getting better any time soon.

What happened to Dempster saying we’d be backing the manager in January? sounds like she’s told us one thing and the manager something different altogether.

[jeffers]

I'm maybe being overly positive here, but read to me like we'll make a couple of signings maybe more if we can move some players on. Added to that the fact managers are usually economical with the truth when it comes to transfer windows.

[SMAXXA]

I think what speaks volumes for the team and the season so far is that I don’t think we can say any of our players in the whole squad has been a stand out and had a really good first half of the season, and I include Allan in that. He’s shown it at times as has Halberg, Boyle since he’s been back, Kamberi and Doidge but nothing enough to say they are irreplaceable. The rest your scraping the barrel and am cautious that if we don’t add a couple this window we could really regress second part of the season, certainly wouldn’t expect a challenge for Europe.

Feels also we have been in this position all too often in January having to do something in the market to turn around our season which is frustrating. We can’t rip it up January isn’t the time for that but moving some players on which we will be trying to do and a couple of smart bits of business could really renew hope for the reason of the season, of which there are lots to play for if we get it right (big if I know)

[HoboHarry]

Exactly.

Pish summer transfer window, pish first half of the season and to me it doesn’t look like it’ll be getting better any time soon.

What happened to Dempster saying we’d be backing the manager in January? sounds like she’s told us one thing and the manager something different altogether.
I can tell you don't play cards.

[bingo70]

I can tell you don't play cards.

I know we will sign players so to an extent I know JR is playing a game here.

I still don’t like it though, it’s been clear for months what our problems were this season, I was hoping in advance of the January transfer window opening we’d have done the work so we could get players signed and bedded into the squad for the Dundee United cup game. We’re clearly not signing anyone this week while we’re away so it’s going to be 2 or 3 weeks in to January we’re looking to bring in the dregs that nobody else has snapped up yet.

St Mirren have identified their weak areas and gone out and been proactive and signed players early doors, obviously we don’t know how successful they’ll be yet but that’s the attitude I was hoping for from our club this month.

[CMurdoch]

Murray and Shaw out on loan, Vela away and Maxwell/Middleton's loans cut short would seem pretty realistic. A defensive midfielder and striker brought in along with Bogdan.

That's a realistic sensible post.
I would be chuffed with that as our window if the 2 incomers are good quality, especially the defensive mid.

[Speedway]

Football fans excel in remembering/exaggerating money in and forgetting/underestimating money out.

Why don’t we have much money? Well we tried to build a long term squad to back a long term manager by giving out long term contracts at a level above what we’d done in recent times and it failed by November.

We were also bought out and debt cleared for the price of Kevin De Bryne’s Shoelace. We’re not that big a deal.

Aye but ST sales, McGinn money etc 🤦🏻

[J-C]

Wonder if Naismith will extend.
Gray ready to olay again and we still have James.
Unless we move James on?

Naismith's on a season long loan.

[Gaffer1875]

My concern is who is identifying and signing the players? Is it ‘the football dept’ or JR?

I heard from a source very close to Hecky that the summer recruits were not his and those of the George Craig etc. Clearly he would have agreed but not necessary his choices.



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[The Spaceman]

I would have been delighted had we signed Dylan, he’s clearly a very good player technically. However, I also believe he will not be as effective in a team without John McGinn at his side and his fragile state of mind/body is not suited to Aberdeen’s philosophy under McInnes.

[Ozyhibby]

My concern is who is identifying and signing the players? Is it ‘the football dept’ or JR?

I heard from a source very close to Hecky that the summer recruits were not his and those of the George Craig etc. Clearly he would have agreed but not necessary his choices.



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Given the recruitment dept’s dreadful record over the last few windows I was surprised when the head of recruitment was promoted. Not sure who got his old job.


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[Since90+2]

I would have been delighted had we signed Dylan, he’s clearly a very good player technically. However, I also believe he will not be as effective in a team without John McGinn at his side and his fragile state of mind/body is not suited to Aberdeen’s philosophy under McInnes.

Where is this fragile state of mind statement coming from? He had a hib inbalance that hampered his development and probably stopped him playing him at a higher level.

[jacomo]

He’s already done plenty so far in terms of cash. Not his fault a ***** manager was trusted with it in the summer.


It might not be his fault but it is now his responsibility.

Others at Hibs need to answer to Ron about why Hecky was appointed and how some of the players were signed. Our summer recruitment doesn’t look as bad now as it did in October, but the debacle over defensive midfield for example really needs looking at.

For now though, it’s clear our Head Coach needs backing.

[Stuart93]

My concern is who is identifying and signing the players? Is it ‘the football dept’ or JR?

I heard from a source very close to Hecky that the summer recruits were not his and those of the George Craig etc. Clearly he would have agreed but not necessary his choices.



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Hmm na not having that. Newell & Jackson previously played for Hecky. In fact there was talk not long after newell signed that Hecky was advised by the recruitment team against signing him

I think out of all our signings Naismith & Hallberg look like the ones who were recruitment teams signings

[bigwheel]

Hmm na not having that. Newell & Jackson previously played for Hecky. In fact there was talk not long after newell signed that Hecky was advised by the recruitment team against signing him

I think out of all our signings Naismith & Hallberg look like the ones who were recruitment teams signings


I think it is just a reaction against PH that gives accountability to “good” signings to the recruitment team and to bad signings to PH ...they would all have been involved in all signings ...

[Dmas]

Hmm na not having that. Newell & Jackson previously played for Hecky. In fact there was talk not long after newell signed that Hecky was advised by the recruitment team against signing him

I think out of all our signings Naismith & Hallberg look like the ones who were recruitment teams signings

I think too much is heaped on the recruitment team, they suggest players for positions the manager wants filled, there’s no way craig/Mathie are bringing players in the manager hasn’t agreed to sign.

The players brought in over the summer where sanctioned by the manager at that time and players brought in from now will be agreed by ross.

the recruitment team is a tool for the manager to help him do the best job he can

[Borderhibbie76]

Not accepting that our budget is gone, unless our backroom costs are extortionate.

Massive season ticket sales, money from McGinn promotion, not a lot of fees paid in the summer, a semi final reached already, saving £500k from previous years as debt written off.

There simply has to be money there or questions must be asked in where it is going.

We are clearly at least 2/3 quality players away from being competitive in the second half of the season and a decent Scottish cup run, otherwise we will get pumped out early and risk finishing in the bottom 6.

Totally in agreement with this and as a ST holder I will be hesitating to renew for next season unless i see some sort of ambition this month. Dempster said when JR was appointed he would have money to spend in Jan and she admitted there was weaknesses in squad...so what's changed??

[Stuart93]

I think it is just a reaction against PH that gives accountability to “good” signings to the recruitment team and to bad signings to PH ...they would all have been involved in all signings ...

If what has been said is true what’s the recruitment team meant to do if the ma after is going against their recommendation? If that’ is what happened