Winter 2019-20 transfer thread

[Torto7]

We should have a bumper budget for the summer given we were prepared to pay a big fee for Nisbet and also money for Miller. Lots of players out of contract as well.

[Ronniekirk]

Taking a risk that Doidge and McNulty stay fit and in form.

We know Doidge tends to score in spurts then dries up He has also said that So McNulty will need to take over when that happens ,and Boyle hopefully continues to keep scoring with Allan and Docherty chipping in a few


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[Real Emerald]

It was strange they didn’t ask JR about any more signings or Nisbet especially after Chick was just saying we are chasing him. Clutching at straws but maybe the question was a no go area.

[Mr Grieves]

We've made some decent signings this window but we're pretty light in attack.

[cabbageandribs1875]

He won't be able to play against us.


season ends in 4 months 😊

[Greencore]

I wish we had picked lennon over swiss w*****.

[The 90+2]

Rolando Aaron’s signs for Motherwell. Wtf?

[Hibs90]

Two first team strikers is not good enough, especially a McNulty who has barely kicked a ball recently, Gullan is unproven, yet may come good.

Got to think we are not finished surely????

As for Florian, oh dear, karma will get you ya wee rat.

[Hibeewilly]

It was strange they didn’t ask JR about any more signings or Nisbet especially after Chick was just saying we are chasing him. Clutching at straws but maybe the question was a no go area.
That was my take on it as well RE. Almost as if JR had said none of these questions are to be asked far less answered. I think we are still open for business and still on Dunfermlines case for Nisbet

[mayo hibee]

I wish we had picked lennon over swiss w*****.

I'm comfortable with both of them being gone to be honest. Lennon is a bigger cock than Kamberi in my opinion.

[The 90+2]

The full quotation:

“I am very excited. Ever since I came to Scotland it has been a dream for me to move to Rangers and it has happened today, so I am a very, very happy man. For me, Ibrox is the best atmosphere I have ever played in. My second game for Hibs was against Rangers at Ibrox and after the game, I told my agent immediately my dream would be to play in this stadium in front of these fans as they are the best fans in the world – the support is massive.”

How can he possibly say that if he's only on loan? Unbelievable.... What a tit.

He’s asked his agent how to make sure he can’t ever play for us ever again.

[The 90+2]

Two first team strikers is not good enough, especially a McNulty who has barely kicked a ball recently, Gullan is unproven, yet may come good.

Got to think we are not finished surely????

As for Florian, oh dear, karma will get you ya wee rat.

I agree. Can’t see much more happening though.

As for Flo’ wait until he’s sold before he gets his Karma.

[Heisenberg]

It was strange they didn’t ask JR about any more signings or Nisbet especially after Chick was just saying we are chasing him. Clutching at straws but maybe the question was a no go area.

I thought I’d read on here that JR had confirmed he’s happy with what he’s got and we’ll no be signing anyone else after McNulty came in to replace Flo. I find it hard to believe we’ll go into the second half of the season with two senior strikers and a youngster.

[Stuart93]

To be fair.

We started the window with Flo, Doidge & Shaw

And look to be ending it with McNulty, Doidge & Gullan

So I wouldn’t say we’re any lighter than we were probably just not as strong in attack as we want to be

[Captain Trips]

Will be rather amusing if after loan is done Sevco do not wish to buy him.

[The Spaceman]

That big Swiss Prima Donna will flump at Sevco. He will not enjoy having the 40,000 mutants booing every elephant touch he makes and his contribution of 5 goals over the campaign. Well rid.

[bringbackbenny]

I'm comfortable with both of them being gone to be honest. Lennon is a bigger cock than Kamberi in my opinion.

Lennon never disrespected *our* club in public. He had his faults and the time was right for him to move on. kamberi has been a disrespectful erse working his ticket since he arrived.

[lord bunberry]

I thought I’d read on here that JR had confirmed he’s happy with what he’s got and we’ll no be signing anyone else after McNulty came in to replace Flo. I find it hard to believe we’ll go into the second half of the season with two senior strikers and a youngster.
He said that at the press conference today before we had signed Docherty and McNulty. He genuinely seems happy with what he’s got which is always a good sign.

[SHODAN]

The full quotation:

“I am very excited. Ever since I came to Scotland it has been a dream for me to move to Rangers and it has happened today, so I am a very, very happy man. For me, Ibrox is the best atmosphere I have ever played in. My second game for Hibs was against Rangers at Ibrox and after the game, I told my agent immediately my dream would be to play in this stadium in front of these fans as they are the best fans in the world – the support is massive.”

How can he possibly say that if he's only on loan? Unbelievable.... What a tit.

Okay, I thought some of the reactions on here were a bit OTT but that is absolutely astonishing.

Why on earth would he say that?

[greenlex]

I thought I’d read on here that JR had confirmed he’s happy with what he’s got and we’ll no be signing anyone else after McNulty came in to replace Flo. I find it hard to believe we’ll go into the second half of the season with two senior strikers and a youngster.
You did. He did say he was happy with what he has. At no point did he say there wouldn’t be any more.

[bingo70]

Two first team strikers is not good enough, especially a McNulty who has barely kicked a ball recently, Gullan is unproven, yet may come good.

Got to think we are not finished surely????

As for Florian, oh dear, karma will get you ya wee rat.

Boyle can play up front too.

I was more hoping for another winger.

[The 90+2]

Okay, I thought some of the reactions on here were a bit OTT but that is absolutely astonishing.

I was his biggest supporter in the face of the abuse given back to me mate. He’s a disrespectful ******** of a player, he suits that shower 100%. Imagine him and Morelos in the same lineup? At least I know now who I defo’ want to win the league when I usually don’t care.

[The 90+2]

Boyle can play up front too.

I was more hoping for another winger.

Rolando Aarons, again, baffling Motherwell have gotten him.

[HendoDelivered]

Anyone know if thats us done or we still trying for Nisbett?

[SHODAN]

Pleased to see the interest in Boyle seems to have cooled down.

[bingo70]

Rolando Aarons, again, baffling Motherwell have gotten him.

He was excellent against us in the summer for Newcastle.

If the guy is that good all the time what a signing that’ll be for them.

[The 90+2]

He was excellent against us in the summer for Newcastle.

If the guy is that good all the time what a signing that’ll be for them.

I know! Baffling! He was tremendous!

[The 90+2]

Pleased to see the interest in Boyle seems to have cooled down.

English windows shut.

[SMAXXA]

Think that’s us done

[Jim44]

I should think we’ll get the ‘business concluded’ announcement any time soon.

[Newcastlehibby]

Okay, I thought some of the reactions on here were a bit OTT but that is absolutely astonishing.

Why on earth would he say that?

Written by Jim Traynor I suspect, with only one thing in mind, winding up Hibs supporters. It appears he has been very successful.

[California-Hibs]

Think that’s us done

Based on just a feeling?

[Barney McGrew]

Think that’s us done

Not quite yet. We’re still trying for one more.

[The 90+2]

Written by Jim Traynor I suspect, with only one thing in mind, winding up Hibs supporters. It appears he has been very successful.

Nah. Not this time.

[Captain Trips]

Written by Jim Traynor I suspect, with only one thing in mind, winding up Hibs supporters. It appears he has been very successful.

No it cant be as it is coherent.

[Wee Scottie Dug]

Think that’s us done

Still 45mins to get the last one over the line........ :wink:

[SMAXXA]

Based on just a feeling?

Yeah just a feeling nothing else

[Sean1875]

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[calumhibee1]

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**** it. Let's go to £500k.

[HendoDelivered]

Looks like that is that.

[Jim44]

You can understand Dunfermline’s reluctance to release Nisbet. He’s a cracking player and, firstly, he might just see them into the playoffs and, secondly, they’ll pick up the sort of money we’re offering no bother in summer.

[Scott Allan Key]

I hope he absolutely smashes it for the rest of the season. He scores tons of goals for them and the huns absolutely love him by the end of his loan and desperately want to sign him permanently................and we take him back and sell him to Lech Poznan for £2mThis.

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[One Day Soon]

I'm comfortable with both of them being gone to be honest. Lennon is a bigger cock than Kamberi in my opinion.


Well that looks like a foolish and deeply inaccurate claim right now.

[mayo hibee]

Well that looks like a foolish and deeply inaccurate claim right now.

Why - because of some nonsense quote written by the The Rangers press office?

[The 90+2]

Done then. Wish we got another couple but it is a good window overall.

[The 90+2]

Why - because of some nonsense quote written by the The Rangers press office?

No, because he’s a troublemaking prick. That has became even more evident over the last couple of days.

Kamberi is a very intelligent guy. He’s not just going to scratch his head and read out any **** given to him. His interview is a very calculated statement.

[Speedway]

Am I right in thinking that of all of signings, only McGinn is here beyond the summer.

[Sean1875]

.

[greenlex]

Am I right in thinking that of all of signings, only McGinn is here beyond the summer.
Yes

[The 90+2]

Am I right in thinking that of all of signings, only McGinn is here beyond the summer.

At this point, yeah.

[HendoDelivered]

Nisbet will be well out our reach come the summer. Gutted we never for him.

[Brightside]

Am I right in thinking that of all of signings, only McGinn is here beyond the summer.

Keep finding

[SteveHFC]

That's our business done.

Only 2 first team strikers is ridiculous.

[greenlex]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1223396775689641984?s=21


and we’re done.

[Speedway]

Business done!

[One Day Soon]

No, because he’s a troublemaking prick. That has became even more evident over the last couple of days.

Kamberi is a very intelligent guy. He’s not just going to scratch his head and read out any **** given to him. His interview is a very calculated statement.


This, plus the quote which he or his agent or both have clearly assented to. Classless, disrespectful and really quite ****my. Don't recall Neil ever coming out with anything in that league of deliberate offensiveness.

[The 90+2]

Nisbet will be well out our reach come the summer. Gutted we never for him.

I’m not sure how exactly? He’s still playing for Dunfermline of the Scottish Championship. They are out the Scottish cup (pumped of Stranraer bottom of league 2). He scores another ten goals I’m not sure how his value doubles in the summer when it’s usually easier and cheaper to bring in players?

[Sir David Gray]

I feel we're (still) a striker and a defensive midfielder short.

[The 90+2]

I feel we're (still) a striker and a defensive midfielder short.

Free agents here we come. 👍

[The 90+2]

This, plus the quote which he or his agent or both have clearly assented to. Classless, disrespectful and really quite ****my. Don't recall Neil ever coming out with anything in that league of deliberate offensiveness.

Spot on. Very, very disappointed in the guy.

[SHODAN]

Nisbet will be down south in the summer then. That's our opportunity gone.

We need a backup striker on a free transfer or something. If Doidge or McNulty - or god forbid, both - get injured, we're screwed.

[lord bunberry]

That's our business done.

Only 2 first team strikers is ridiclous.
Is it? Most clubs seem to manage with two, rangers only signed Kamberi because one of their main two is injured, otherwise they were quite happy to continue with two. We’ve now got two quality strikers and a promising back up that in my opinion will go on to great things. We’re more than covered up front.

[Hibbyradge]

I feel we're (still) a striker and a defensive midfielder short.

Well, we might not have the perfect squad, but we're better than we were a month ago and we've enough for the next 4 months or so.

I'm getting the snacks in for the August TDD this weekend.

[Hibbyradge]

Nisbet will be down south in the summer then. That's our opportunity gone.

We need a backup striker on a free transfer or something. If Doidge or McNulty - or god forbid, both - get injured, we're screwed.

We threw everything at it.

Every team misses out on targets.

[Andy74]

Nisbet will be down south in the summer then. That's our opportunity gone.

We need a backup striker on a free transfer or something. If Doidge or McNulty - or god forbid, both - get injured, we're screwed.

Boyle and Gullan can play there. We can also go with 1 and 2 wide players.

Would have liked another but not too worried.

[The 90+2]

Nisbet will be down south in the summer then. That's our opportunity gone.

We need a backup striker on a free transfer or something. If Doidge or McNulty - or god forbid, both - get injured, we're screwed.

Can’t we bid, get a deal accepted tomorrow and him join tomorrow?

I don’t see why clubs down south didn’t go for Shankland on a free last summer but will pay for Nesbit next?

I agree, we are light up front.

[Speedway]

We threw everything at it.

Every team misses out on targets.

And it shows that we’re far from skint too.

[Steve20]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

[calumhibee1]

Is it? Most clubs seem to manage with two, rangers only signed Kamberi because one of their main two is injured, otherwise they were quite happy to continue with two. We’ve now got two quality strikers and a promising back up that in my opinion will go on to great things. We’re more than covered up front.

Agree. Two main strikers, Boyle who can also play there and Gullan who looks promising. Another would have been nice but were ok up top I reckon.

[Heisenberg]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

We bid between 350-400k for a striker today. That’s showing some ambition in my book. Hopefully we’ve now got a management team in charge to build us a proper squad in the summer.

[Speedway]

Two players for every position has been the mantra for three seasons now.

Rocky/Bogdan

SDG/SPM
Jackson/Daz
Hanlon/Porto
Lewis/James

Steph/Whitts
Slivka /Docherty
Newell/Horgan
Allan/Mallan

Doidge/Hammer
McNulty/Boyle

Naismith-Murray-Mackie carried over.

Yes we’ve got injuries but I’d say we’re about right.

[calumhibee1]

Two players for every position has been the mantra for three seasons now.

Rocky/Bogdan

SDG/SPM
Jackson/Daz
Hanlon/Porto
Lewis/James

Steph/Whitts
Slivka /Docherty
Newell/Horgan
Allan/Mallan

Doidge/Hammer
McNulty/Boyle

Naismith-Murray-Mackie carried over.

Yes we’ve got injuries but I’d say we’re about right.

Although I think we probably have two players that can play each position I’m not sure we’re at that yet. For example, Boyle is the only right sided wide man in the squad. So we only have one of them, and if we’re using him there then he can’t be a striker as well.

I’d agree we’re not too badly stocked now though.

[O'Rourke3]

We bid between 350-400k for a striker today..

And we have a winner.....



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[green with envy]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

Do you ever give a rest Steve? You only ever seem to say something positive in Hibs around 1% of your posts and that's me being kind.

[jacomo]

Well, we might not have the perfect squad, but we're better than we were a month ago and we've enough for the next 4 months or so.

I'm getting the snacks in for the August TDD this weekend.


We definitely look more balanced.

[Slim Shady]

Still think we will sign a striker as a free agent. Tony Watt was rumoured earlier. I’d prefer to give Gullan (Hammer) a chance before signing him tho.

[Smartie]

I often find Steve20 to be unreasonably negative but I'm in total agreement with him here.

[The 90+2]

I often find Steve20 to be unreasonably negative but I'm in total agreement with him here.

And the arguing and fights begin :greengrin

People just want what is best for our club and show different ways of expressing opinions to do so.

P.S you’re right in your opinions, in my opinion.

[ScottB]

Unless we’re going to stick to playing with a loan striker, we do feel a bit light up front...

[J-C]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

Ageing defence, Hanlon is 30, Lewis is 32, McGinn is 29, Jackson is 25. Loan players on long contracts so a hefty fee would be needed to get them.

We showed ambition by getting shot of a disruptive player and bringing in a solid midfielder, we also attempted to buy one of the hottest young strikers in Scotland right now and a fee of £350k was mentioned, is that not enough ambition for you, some people are never happy.
I think this is a pretty good window, we do seem to do well in January, our squad looks far more balanced now.

[NOLA]

Not good enough for Switzerland you have to whore yourself to Albania but it’s a “DREAM “ to play for rangers? FANNY

[CMac1988]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

I think we're in a slightly better position than we were but I can't see past our defensive frailties and lack of leadership on the pitch.

My biggest complaint over the past few seasons is that the club have failed to capitalise on being the 3rd best supported team in Scottish football and January transfer windows have been about trying to resolve poor recruitment efforts in the Summer. Is the height of our ambition as a club to flit around 5th/6th place most seasons? Hopefully the new additions along with other recent signings can push on but I'm not convinced we'll catch Aberdeen and with Livingston punching above their weight (deservedly) the most we might have to play for is more progress in the cup. As always happy to be proven wrong! GGTTH.

[Perd Hapley]

Come on Leigh, you know the decent thing to do is rip up the contract and start the revolution

:flag:

[Smartie]

I think we're in a slightly better position than we were but I can't see past our defensive frailties and lack of leadership on the pitch.

My biggest complaint over the past few seasons is that the club have failed to capitalise on being the 3rd best supported team in Scottish football and January transfer windows have been about trying to resolve poor recruitment efforts in the Summer. Is the height of our ambition as a club to flit around 5th/6th place most seasons? Hopefully the new additions along with other recent signings can push on but I'm not convinced we'll catch Aberdeen and with Livingston punching above their weight (deservedly) the most we might have to play for is more progress in the cup. As always happy to be proven wrong! GGTTH.

And that leadership we need isn't going to come from 6 month loan stop gaps.

The past 18 months has been utterly shameful from a recruitment perspective and we've gone backwards at a rate of knots. It's criminal that we've been allowed to regress so badly.

For this of you who are happy - who do we currently have playing for us that you think will be playing for us on the first day of the 2021-2022 season?

[B.H.F.C]

And that leadership we need isn't going to come from 6 month loan stop gaps.

The past 18 months has been utterly shameful from a recruitment perspective and we've gone backwards at a rate of knots. It's criminal that we've been allowed to regress so badly.

For this of you who are happy - who do we currently have playing for us that you think will be playing for us on the first day of the 2021-2022 season?

I don’t think that was ever going to be addressed in this window. I’m not happy with how our squad is but I think, for the short term, this window has been OK. But the words ‘short term’ are the problem.

I think Ross has already started to suss out who isn’t going to add anything. I think we are going to see Gray and McGregor phased out moving towards the summer and that is when we need build the core of a team, like we did a few years ago.

[NOLA]

Do you ever give a rest Steve? You only ever seem to say something positive in Hibs around 1% of your posts and that's me being kind.

Are you so blinkered you don’t see the same?

[Bangkok Hibby]

That window was decent and although not exactly what some wanted it showed ambition and resolve. The summer window is where we will see Ron Gordon's commitment to making us the "best of the rest" or not. Until then its done. Lets just dry our eyes and get behind the club for the remainder of the season. Still a lot to play for

[DetroitHibs]

And that leadership we need isn't going to come from 6 month loan stop gaps.

The past 18 months has been utterly shameful from a recruitment perspective and we've gone backwards at a rate of knots. It's criminal that we've been allowed to regress so badly.

For this of you who are happy - who do we currently have playing for us that you think will be playing for us on the first day of the 2021-2022 season?

I agree. Decent short term window, but what was the point, seasons over. There’s no chance Flo will be back and the chances of getting Dougherty on a permanent deal are slim due to wages. McNulty who I’m not entirely convinced about, will be hard to tie down, with Omeonga the only one that will probably sign permanent.

So we start the season with ONE main forward next year, searching for at least two more. If the goals dry up from Doidge, it’s going to be grim.

[Ray_]

Is it? Most clubs seem to manage with two, rangers only signed Kamberi because one of their main two is injured, otherwise they were quite happy to continue with two. We’ve now got two quality strikers and a promising back up that in my opinion will go on to great things. We’re more than covered up front.

They have Greg Stewart also and we have Martin Boyle, better all round balance by far IMHO, shouldn't get teams dominate us in the middle like they have at times this season.

[FilipinoHibs]

And the arguing and fights begin :greengrin

People just want what is best for our club and show different ways of expressing opinions to do so.

P.S you’re right in your opinions, in my opinion.

90+2 another permanently negative poster who does not live in the real world.

[MacGruber]

We have two strikers for the second half of the season. Any injuries to Doidge or McNulty and this has been a shocker.

An ageing defence, loan players being too expensive to make permanent and the club not pushing the boat out to show some ambition. It’s going to be some summer rebuilding job to get a team that can challenge for Europe.

Another window and another missed opportunity goes by.

There will be loads that jump on this post for being negative and I see their point. Bogdan, Omeonga, McNulty and Docherty are 4 quality signings. Paul McGinn no world beater but very steady and versatile and improves the squad. We alao showed ambition and a willingness to spend money with the Nisbet bid and gutted to miss out though that is no fault of the club's.

I do however see Steve's point too. Especially being a striker short. Maybe go in to the free transfer market now, we need to. Let's not forget our manager feels we are one short there too. People saying we have Boyle and Gullan who can play there, that puts us into the makeshift/unproven youngster category. Sure Boyle can make a decent fist of it up top with his pace but we then miss his pace out wide and no cover for that. He's a wide man and that's where we need him. As for Gullan, people saying his name and that he can play there. Can he? He literally has played there for Hibs for about 20 mins and hasn't yet scored at thia level He looks very promising and I have high hopes for him but what a pressure that is for the young guy if we pick up an injuy to Doidge or McNulty - he has to be scoring straight away as nobody else.

We are a striker short, no doubt. The club knows this hence talk of Nisbet and Stewart. Maybe pick up a decent free now as cover. Think the Nisbet ship has probably sailed now but you never know for summer

[Unseen work]

Motherwell have played a blinder this window.

1.5 million for James plus Rolando Aaron’s in one loan, he is quality from what iv seen of him

Re Hibs, I’m a mix of delighted but a bit disappointed at the same time

Docherty - Brilliant signing and I think going by some comments on here a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised. He’s not a defensive midfielder but plenty energy, bite, quality and chips in with a goal. I can see Allan dropping out with his form and a 3 of Omeonga, Newell and Docherty. Disappointed it’s only a loan but no way we could afford him now or summer.

Omeonga - Delighted to have him back, shame it’s a loan but confident we will get him permanently in summer

McNulty - Again delighted to have him back and surprised there’s so many negative comments. Very intelligent player who can finish if given the chance, which he will get plenty of with the players we have. Loan again however so same sticky situation in summer.

McGinn - Experienced, energetic, plenty dig and pace. Ross has worked with him and knows what he’s getting so Iv no complaints.

Kamberi - Absolute clown the boy is making those comments, making it obvious to all potential buyers in summer he doesn’t want to be here and we will now more or less have to sell on the cheap.

Nisbet and Miller - Nisbet was the one I really wanted on a permanent deal and unfortunately an agreemend couldn’t be made. 400k plus add ons is us fairly upping the anti for a championship player and backing the manager, suspect he will be further out our price range in the summer, hopefully this unsettles him as he was wanting to come here, had a slight dip in form and we get him in the summer. Miller is a good player for Hamilton and would have proven a good option out wide, wonder if he will get him pre contract?

Overall the quality I’m really happy with, only concern is again it’s a big simmer rebuild job. What I am happy with is the standard and type of player we’re going for however. Young, exciting Scottish players who have energy, pace and power

[Robbo6-2]

Said it earlier in the thread Nisbet was never happening.

If we really wanted him why did we wait til the last day of the window to put in a bid. Very poor leadership from the top.

Overall its a decent window for Jan, again tho another patch up job for a pish summer one.

We are genuinely in trouble if Diodge or McNulty are injured.

[bingo70]

Said it earlier in the thread Nisbet was never happening.

If we really wanted him why did we wait til the last day of the window to put in a bid. Very poor leadership from the top.

Overall its a decent window for Jan, again tho another patch up job for a pish summer one.

We are genuinely in trouble if Diodge or McNulty are injured.

We didn’t know Kamberi was leaving until the last day of the window.

Regarding the strikers. If Doidge or McNulty get injured we will either go to a three up front with one of them being flanked by two wide men or we’ll push Boule up front to play as a striker.

In the worst case scenario we might have to give Gullan a go but he’s no got one leg, he’s a promising youngster that will need a shot eventually if he’s to show what he can do.

I’d have liked us to get another forward to have as an option to come off the bench but the fact we never got one isn’t a complete disaster.

[sean04]

We can still sign players on free transfers

[Waxy]

Really good squad we have for the run in.Nisbet would have been great but we tried.
Wouldnt say we look light up front of you include Boyle along with Doidge and McNulty with Gullen also.
4th or 5th and the Scottish cup again.

[Borderhibbie76]

Overall a decent window but very short term, however I agree it can be difficult to do anything else in Jan. Like others am a bit concerned we only have 2 senior strikers but we cant say the club didnt try, and I've been very critical of the board but weve tried with fees for 2 players. Probably get another striker in who is free of imagine and huge rebuild ahead in Summer. But at least I'm a bit more confident now that the Board will splash the cash.if we are fortunate with injuries the squad we have should hopefully be good enough for 5th and a long cup run

[MacGruber]

Really good squad we have for the run in.Nisbet would have been great but we tried.
Wouldnt say we look light up front of you include Boyle along with Doidge and McNulty with Gullen also.
4th or 5th and the Scottish cup again.

It was a good window, some real quality in.

We missed our remit of needing another striker though and would have liked a hulking big presence in midfield - though Omeonga and Docherty energy might negate the need.

Hopefully Gullan can make the step up but that's not a given. Boyle wasted up top and we have no cover out wide if he does play there.

Some say we are light up top, some say we have enough. Crucially Jack Ross thinks we are too light and need one in so hopefully a move in the free transfers. We just need some experienced cover just incase Doidge or McNulty pick up an injury

[Callum_62]

Wonder how Kevin Nisbit feels this morning

I see Malumbu is looking for a club

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[MacGruber]

Overall a decent window but very short term, however I agree it can be difficult to do anything else in Jan. Like others am a bit concerned we only have 2 senior strikers but we cant say the club didnt try, and I've been very critical of the board but weve tried with fees for 2 players. Probably get another striker in who is free of imagine and huge rebuild ahead in Summer. But at least I'm a bit more confident now that the Board will splash the cash.if we are fortunate with injuries the squad we have should hopefully be good enough for 5th and a long cup run

Would be wanting us to show the ambition of aiming for a European place. We might end up 5th but if we are targetting it there is something wrong.

[Springbank]

For the first time since the McGinn/McGeough/Allan halcyon Spring of 2018 we look like we are getting a bit of balance in the middle of the park.

Rather than having a number 10 (to do all the creating and none of the defending) alongside a Bartley/Milligan (to do none of the creating and all of the defending) we now have a balance of players who can do a bit of both sides (Omeonga, Docherty and - on recent form - Joe Newell)

So while I hear what people are saying about a lack of strikers, what we do have is a potentially stuffy midfield and defence, who could sit behind one of our 2 no.10s (Allan and Mallan) who are good for SPFL Prem level, and who could both thread pinpoint balls to exploit Boyle's pace (for example) if we ever found Doidge & McNulty were unavailable. The stuffy midfield and defence then just have the job of winning the ball and feeding it to the 10, who then finds the space for Boyle to run into - I'd be happier going to a Hampden semi or final with that kind of balance than I ever was back in November at the league cup semi. So if Doidge/McNulty were out we'd still have a sort of:

Rocky / SPM,Hanlon,Porto,Lewis / Docherty, Omeonga, Newell, Horgan / Allan or Mallan / Boyle

[MacGruber]

For the first time since the McGinn/McGeough/Allan halcyon Spring of 2018 we look like we are getting a bit of balance in the middle of the park.

Rather than having a number 10 (to do all the creating and none of the defending) alongside a Bartley/Milligan (to do none of the creating and all of the defending) we now have a balance of players who can do a bit of both sides (Omeonga, Docherty and - on recent form - Joe Newell)

So while I hear what people are saying about a lack of strikers, what we do have is a potentially stuffy midfield and defence, who could sit behind one of our 2 no.10s (Allan and Mallan) who are good for SPFL Prem level, and who could both thread pinpoint balls to exploit Boyle's pace (for example) if we ever found Doidge & McNulty were unavailable. The stuffy midfield and defence then just have the job of winning the ball and feeding it to the 10, who then finds the space for Boyle to run into - I'd be happier going to a Hampden semi or final with that kind of balance than I ever was back in November at the league cup semi. So if Doidge/McNulty were out we'd still have a sort of:

Rocky / SPM,Hanlon,Porto,Lewis / Docherty, Omeonga, Newell, Horgan / Allan or Mallan / Boyle

That team at the bottom to cover injuries for me just highlights how light we are for strikers and we need another. I know you were arguing the opposite but that's the way it looks to me.

[we are hibs]

Doidge or mcnulty get injured today and all of a sudden we are chasing a free agent striker. As for rangers only having 2 strikers, thats right. But one got injured which is why Kamberi has ended up there. They were just lucky it didnt happen when the
Window was closed and they could bring in a replacement. We might not be so lucky, especially when i have read sunderland fans saying mcnulty has had 3 hamstring injuries this season already.

[Bobby's Cinema]

So assuming second half of the season Doidge and Mcnulty both start a game, what’s the option from the bench, Gullan?

Bizarre window for me. You’re asking for an immediate partnership there with only a young lad playing his season in league 1 to come on and change it.

It’s not as if the budget wasn’t there if Nisbet bids are correct. Don’t forget this was a month long window not 24hrs.

Wonder how JR feels, we know he would have preferred oli to stay.

Happy with the quality of those that do come in, but overall disappointed and don’t believe it matches our stated ambitions.

[makaveli1875]

So assuming second half of the season Doidge and Mcnulty both start a game, what’s the option from the bench, Gullan?

Bizarre window for me. You’re asking for an immediate partnership there with only a young lad playing his season in league 1 to come on and change it.

It’s not as if the budget wasn’t there if Nisbet bids are correct. Don’t forget this was a month long window not 24hrs.

Wonder how JR feels, we know he would have preferred oli to stay.

Im sure if he'd known Flo was leaving Oli wouldnt have been sold

[GreenCastle]

Have Hibs said that the huns have an option / price agreed to buy Flo ?

He won’t go to Celtic now so options aren’t limited - huns or elsewhere in Europe.

His comments weren’t needed and even if told to say it - poor form from a club who gave him a chance to be in the shop window. There is no loyalty in football (rare at least...Hanlon and LS) but many Hibs fans backed Flo and after the Lennon / LD mess this is what he comes out with. Is he genuine or trying to get under Lennons skin ?!

Regarding Nisbet - greedy agent / club - could have come to Hibs now for decent money and sign on - done well and gone down south / Old Firm but will think of one big pay day which if he flops will come back to bite him.

Like some others I’m meh about the window - happy to get some energy in midfield - Omeonga. Docherty is good but so was Middleton...and look how that ended up.

I like McNulty and have high hopes of him and Doidge having a good partnership.

Shaw - surely keep him with Flo going ? Again Flo leaving so late didn’t help us and selfish.

But yes like most summers there will be another rebuild with several in and several out...

[JimBHibees]

For the first time since the McGinn/McGeough/Allan halcyon Spring of 2018 we look like we are getting a bit of balance in the middle of the park.

Rather than having a number 10 (to do all the creating and none of the defending) alongside a Bartley/Milligan (to do none of the creating and all of the defending) we now have a balance of players who can do a bit of both sides (Omeonga, Docherty and - on recent form - Joe Newell)

So while I hear what people are saying about a lack of strikers, what we do have is a potentially stuffy midfield and defence, who could sit behind one of our 2 no.10s (Allan and Mallan) who are good for SPFL Prem level, and who could both thread pinpoint balls to exploit Boyle's pace (for example) if we ever found Doidge & McNulty were unavailable. The stuffy midfield and defence then just have the job of winning the ball and feeding it to the 10, who then finds the space for Boyle to run into - I'd be happier going to a Hampden semi or final with that kind of balance than I ever was back in November at the league cup semi. So if Doidge/McNulty were out we'd still have a sort of:

Rocky / SPM,Hanlon,Porto,Lewis / Docherty, Omeonga, Newell, Horgan / Allan or Mallan / Boyle

Agree seems to be much better balance inthe squad. Got rid of what appears to be a petulant presence. Like the way Jack appears to be building and like the types of players he is bringing in. Midfield looks much more competitive and real competition for places across the pitch can only mean an improvement for the club. Huge opportunity for Jamie Gullan also.

[bingo70]

Doidge or mcnulty get injured today and all of a sudden we are chasing a free agent striker. As for rangers only having 2 strikers, thats right. But one got injured which is why Kamberi has ended up there. They were just lucky it didnt happen when the
Window was closed and they could bring in a replacement. We might not be so lucky, especially when i have read sunderland fans saying mcnulty has had 3 hamstring injuries this season already.

If doidge or McNulty get injured we can move Boyle up front. Worked out ok against Hearts.

We could also give Gullan a shot, the boys no got one leg and he was playing and scoring for Raith. If we’d just signed Gullan I don’t think people would be so adverse to using him if needed.

[Bobby's Cinema]

If doidge or McNulty get injured we can move Boyle up front. Worked out ok against Hearts.

We could also give Gullan a shot, the boys no got one leg and he was playing and scoring for Raith. If we’d just signed Gullan I don’t think people would be so adverse to using him if needed.
I don’t think anyone’s adverse to using him, but we shouldn’t be in the position that he’s the go to option. A lot of the ‘cover’ we have seems to involve shifting people all over the park out of their favoured positions.

Don’t get me wrong I believe we have a starting 11 that can be in the top 3/4/5 in the league, but it’s a squad game and do feel we are short.

Will leave all this here though and get behind the team today as always.

[MacGruber]

If doidge or McNulty get injured we can move Boyle up front. Worked out ok against Hearts.

We could also give Gullan a shot, the boys no got one leg and he was playing and scoring for Raith. If we’d just signed Gullan I don’t think people would be so adverse to using him if needed.

We'd miss Boyle out wide for me. Not so much a miss at Tynie as the pitch has no width. I like the look of Gulllan. Still.to be the only striker on the bench isn't enough when it's an unproven youngster

[DTS]

I would’ve liked to have seen another striker in and with us going for nesbit we’ve went for quality, that being said the last two seasons we’ve only had 2 senior strikers and shaw backing them up and we’ve have very good ends to the season. We go again but with Gullan backing them up, if anything this might give Gullan the game time he needs and deserves

[Lago]

Overall a decent window but very short term, however I agree it can be difficult to do anything else in Jan. Like others am a bit concerned we only have 2 senior strikers but we cant say the club didnt try, and I've been very critical of the board but weve tried with fees for 2 players. Probably get another striker in who is free of imagine and huge rebuild ahead in Summer. But at least I'm a bit more confident now that the Board will splash the cash.if we are fortunate with injuries the squad we have should hopefully be good enough for 5th and a long cup run
It was a decent window under the circumstances, Jack Ross probably realised early on the he was going to have to restructure the squad quickly when he came in. First priority would be to secure top 6 with the plan to do something long term in the summer. I think that's now in place.
As to Kamberi, compare his statement on joing the Rangers, with Docherty's on joining Hibs, no comparison, I think young Mr. Kamberi may find moving on from ER come the summer transfer window might be a little more difficult than before he opened his big mouth.

[Hibeesmad]

Doidge or mcnulty get injured today and all of a sudden we are chasing a free agent striker. As for rangers only having 2 strikers, thats right. But one got injured which is why Kamberi has ended up there. They were just lucky it didnt happen when the
Window was closed and they could bring in a replacement. We might not be so lucky, especially when i have read sunderland fans saying mcnulty has had 3 hamstring injuries this season already.

Defoe is back in about 5 weeks, be surprised if Kamberi gets much game time after that.

[CentreLine]

Wonder how Kevin Nisbit feels this morning

I see Malumbu is looking for a club

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I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

[Percy Vere]

Ross McCormack and Islam Feruz both available on frees.
Thoughts?

[Since452]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

If they get promoted it'll be the best decision they've ever made

[bringbackbenny]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

substitute Hibs for Dunfermline and the Huns are bidding and (in our eyes unsettling) our most promising youngster. We say gtf. Statement still hold true?

[GloryGlory]

Ross McCormack and Islam Feruz both available on frees.
Thoughts?

No thanks and no thanks very much.

[yerauldda]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.


It makes perfect sense from their point of view. It’s a tight league and he’s the difference between them staying up and going down at the moment.

I’m not an expert but I’d imagine the price of going down is similar enough to what we can afford to pay for Nisbet and we didn’t leave them with enough time to find a replacement. I reckon if we came in with that bid 3-4 days ago then we would have got him. Hopefully a similar fee will tempt them to sell in the summer.

[CentreLine]

If they get promoted it'll be the best decision they've ever made

Not going to happen though. The young man agreed terms. They had a seriously good offer for their player but instead want to mess with Nisbet’’s future. Makes no sense to me

[Smartie]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

I have to say I totally disagree with this.

The player is obviously happy, scoring goals and playing well. Whilst he might have been keen to move, he’s only really come to prominence recently so there is definitely merit in him staying put.

It would be different if he’d been there a while and had done just about as much as he could with them.

For him to move now it would be up to us and Dunfermline to find a fee that suited both parties and that just didn’t happen.

We’re the only losers in not getting the deal over the line really, and that’s not even true if it was going to take more money than we had / were comfortable paying.

I would say to you to re-read your post and think of this situation from the point of view of Hibs when Rangers or Celtic come calling.

[SHODAN]

Ross McCormack and Islam Feruz both available on frees.
Thoughts?

McCormack - as backup, yes.

Feruz - I'm not convinced he's going to play football again.

[Hibbyradge]

I think we're in a slightly better position than we were but I can't see past our defensive frailties and lack of leadership on the pitch.

My biggest complaint over the past few seasons is that the club have failed to capitalise on being the 3rd best supported team in Scottish football and January transfer windows have been about trying to resolve poor recruitment efforts in the Summer. Is the height of our ambition as a club to flit around 5th/6th place most seasons? Hopefully the new additions along with other recent signings can push on but I'm not convinced we'll catch Aberdeen and with Livingston punching above their weight (deservedly) the most we might have to play for is more progress in the cup. As always happy to be proven wrong! GGTTH.

We've got the 5th biggest budget.

[Hibee87]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

Did he not just sign for then in the summer? I've no idea what length of contract but what your saying is exactly what we say when other teams are linked/come in with crap offers for our players!
The boy is 22 or 23 and scores for the next 4 months at the same rate and he could help dunf to the play offs and get his move. Unfortunately it may not be to Hibs as clubs with more financial power than us may come in, resulting in Dunf getting more and him getting more.

Or to out it on a simpler terms. When we were in championship and for arguments sake were 5th in the table, had a you g striker like Cummings who had scored 22 in 28 games. Would we have been happy to sell for 400k with no realistic chance to replace?

[CentreLine]

substitute Hibs for Dunfermline and the Huns are bidding and (in our eyes unsettling) our most promising youngster. We say gtf. Statement still hold true?

Yes I agree if the offer is reasonable and not one of the typical arse cheek’s low ball offers or selling to a direct rival. Ala Scott A to them or John McG to Celtic.

[greenlex]

Striker Short? Two in and two out. As we were. (Might still get cover)
Midfield improved. Defence bolstered. Better off between the sticks.
Sorted till the Summer window where the real business gets done.
We’ve done remarkably well this window.

[mentalhibee]

Tony watt still a free agent? Maybe a possibility as another striker.

[04Sauzee]

Any idea what the Free transfer list looks like?

[Hibbyradge]

Would be wanting us to show the ambition of aiming for a European place. We might end up 5th but if we are targetting it there is something wrong.

Who is targeting 5th?

Our target is to get as high up the table as possible.

[Bronson]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.

Disagree. He’s a dunfermline player and they have every right to hold out for more if they think he’s worth it. This is the kind of entitled attitude we’re quick to slate the old firm for.

Good on hibs for making a sizeable bid though. £400k + add ons isn’t a paltry offer.

[Unseen work]

Tony Watt can get to ****

[ian cruise]

Ross McCormack and Islam Feruz both available on frees.
Thoughts?

They should be nowhere near Hibs or any SPFL team. Lower down the divisions they go.

[SquashedFrogg]

Did he not just sign for then in the summer? I've no idea what length of contract but what your saying is exactly what we say when other teams are linked/come in with crap offers for our players!
The boy is 22 or 23 and scores for the next 4 months at the same rate and he could help dunf to the play offs and get his move. Unfortunately it may not be to Hibs as clubs with more financial power than us may come in, resulting in Dunf getting more and him getting more.

Or to out it on a simpler terms. When we were in championship and for arguments sake were 5th in the table, had a you g striker like Cummings who had scored 22 in 28 games. Would we have been happy to sell for 400k with no realistic chance to replace?

Agree with this. It was their prerogative to dig their heals in and I can understand the rationale.

Disappointed we couldn't do a deal but hey ho.

Fair play to them for holding on to him. I'm sure pars fans will be delighted.

[Wilson]

I have to say I totally disagree with this.

The player is obviously happy, scoring goals and playing well. Whilst he might have been keen to move, he’s only really come to prominence recently so there is definitely merit in him staying put.

It would be different if he’d been there a while and had done just about as much as he could with them.

For him to move now it would be up to us and Dunfermline to find a fee that suited both parties and that just didn’t happen.

We’re the only losers in not getting the deal over the line really, and that’s not even true if it was going to take more money than we had / were comfortable paying.

I would say to you to re-read your post and think of this situation from the point of view of Hibs when Rangers or Celtic come calling.

All you can do is bid what you think is fair. Celtic tried that with John McGinn and lost out. We tried it and it wasn't enough.

For what it's worth I think we put a decent valuation on the player. There is no guarantee that he'll shine at a higher level - not every championship striker does. To that end it is a lot of money for us even though we seemed to be the only bidder.

Dunfermline need the goals more than the money or they think they'll get more interest in the summer. That's their call to make.

[blackpoolhibs]

Two players for every position has been the mantra for three seasons now.

Rocky/Bogdan

SDG/SPM
Jackson/Daz
Hanlon/Porto
Lewis/James

Steph/Whitts
Slivka /Docherty
Newell/Horgan
Allan/Mallan

Doidge/Hammer
McNulty/Boyle

Naismith-Murray-Mackie carried over.

Yes we’ve got injuries but I’d say we’re about right.

:agree: 99% of clubs say they are a couple of players light, we are no different. They also say you cant get any real quality in the January window, that is bollox.

In the summer we will still have folk saying we are light somewhere or unbalanced, its as if the managers of the club dont know this and dont want to remedy it on purpose.

[Tom Hart RIP]

Anyone know whether the newcomers are eligible today?

[CentreLine]

I have to say I totally disagree with this. Yes

The player is obviously happy, scoring goals and playing well. Whilst he might have been keen to move, he’s only really come to prominence recently so there is definitely merit in him staying put.

It would be different if he’d been there a while and had done just about as much as he could with them.

For him to move now it would be up to us and Dunfermline to find a fee that suited both parties and that just didn’t happen.

We’re the only losers in not getting the deal over the line really, and that’s not even true if it was going to take more money than we had / were comfortable paying.

I would say to you to re-read your post and think of this situation from the point of view of Hibs when Rangers or Celtic come calling.

Already answered that situation and I am very aware of where Hibs sit in the pond of Scottish football but we sure as hell float closer to the oxygen than Dunfermline. The big difference is that our offer was a good one and the player had agreed terms to come. In what football world does a demand for 50% of any sell on become reasonable? That is to presume that the player goes on to be developed and improves with a club that has a higher profile, higher wage structure and can demand a higher fee. Dunfermline take a player to a level and deserve a reasonable fee. Hibs take him further and deserve the resulting fee but I have no problem with Dunfermline reaping some of that reward. But 50%. WTF!!!!

I accept that DFC are entitled to hold a player to a contract but they were prepared to sell with the idiotic add on.

[SHODAN]

I'd take Tony Watt.

I get that he played for them but did he say something in particular to make us all hate him?

[Unseen work]

Free agents - Forwards

Kenny Miller
Nathan Oduwa
Isaac Buckley Rickets
Jay Emmanuel Thomas
Max Clayton

[Hibbyradge]

Who showed the most ambition;

The team currently sitting in 3rd position who sold their best player;

or Hibs who kept their best player, got rid of a disruptive influence, signed a solid dependable defender, 2 quality midfielders and a top class strikers?

[blackpoolhibs]

Already answered that situation and I am very aware of where Hibs sit in the pond of Scottish football but we sure as hell float closer to the oxygen than Dunfermline. The big difference is that our offer was a good one and the player had agreed terms to come. In what football world does a demand for 50% of any sell on become reasonable? That is to presume that the player goes on to be developed and improves with a club that has a higher profile, higher wage structure and can demand a higher fee. Dunfermline take a player to a level and deserve a reasonable fee. Hibs take him further and deserve the resulting fee but I have no problem with Dunfermline reaping some of that reward. But 50%. WTF!!!!

How do you know they wanted 50%, and even if this was true, he's their player and they can value the player at what they like, just as we do with our players.

They will still get what we offered or even more in the summer, and he will be there until then scoring goals for fun too.

We slate rantic for doing this, we cant have it both ways?

[Hibeesmad]

Who showed the most ambition;

The team currently sitting in 3rd position who sold their best player;

or Hibs who kept their best player, got rid of a disruptive influence, signed a solid dependable defender, 2 quality midfielders and a top class strikers?

Aarons is a good addition for Motherwell imo. But I do agree that our business has been excellent.

[Hibeesmad]

Anyone know whether the newcomers are eligible today?

All of them.

[Brightside]

I'd take Tony Watt.

I get that he played for them but did he say something in particular to make us all hate him?

But he’s rubbish.

[CockneyRebel]

Already answered that situation and I am very aware of where Hibs sit in the pond of Scottish football but we sure as hell float closer to the oxygen than Dunfermline. The big difference is that our offer was a good one and the player had agreed terms to come. In what football world does a demand for 50% of any sell on become reasonable? That is to presume that the player goes on to be developed and improves with a club that has a higher profile, higher wage structure and can demand a higher fee. Dunfermline take a player to a level and deserve a reasonable fee. Hibs take him further and deserve the resulting fee but I have no problem with Dunfermline reaping some of that reward. But 50%. WTF!!!!


I agree 50% sell on seems outrageous.
On the other hand - we take him on their terms and he progresses and in a couple of seasons we sell him on £2/3/4m and get 50% of that. Is that not better than not having him at all? Even if he flopped we only lose the upfront cash and we'd lose that whatever the sell on %. Something to have been considered IMO.

[we are hibs]

I just don’t get the attitude from Dunfermline. They were made a seriously good offer but then wanted a ridiculous 50%, yes 50%, of any further transfer fee, if what was reported on here is accurate.
As a result this young man’s career is stalled and he has to trawl around the second tier of Scottish football in a no hope Dunfermline side. I could understand it if Hibs had come in with a cheeky offer but it seems to me Dunfermline are playing silly beggars with this young man’s future.


Who showed the most ambition;

The team currently sitting in 3rd position who sold their best player;

or Hibs who kept their best player, got rid of a disruptive influence, signed a solid dependable defender, 2 quality midfielders and a top class strikers?


James Scott wasnt their best player though.

[Topographic Hibby]

Speaking with a couple of died in the wool blue noses this morning.

They rate Docherty as a decent player who just wasn't getting a game at TRFC. They are happy he is (hopefully) getting same game time in the same division as them. Didn't appear too fussed that we would/could benefit from him. We are not challenging Rangers for anything and in a Hibs v Rangers game, neither Docherty or Flo will play. Similarly, were neither up nor down about Flo. Squad player in their eyes who will be getting bench splinters in his backside once Defoe returns. The comments attributed to Kamberi didn't really mean anything to them. Probably more in winding us up (successfully, it seems!) than appeasing the blue pound.

Simply the view from a couple of Ibrox season ticket holders.

[CockneyRebel]

How do you know they wanted 50%, and even if this was true, he's their player and they can value the player at what they like, just as we do with our players.

They will still get what we offered or even more in the summer, and he will be there until then scoring goals for fun too.

We slate rantic for doing this, we cant have it both ways?



Disappointed but have to agree.

[CentreLine]

How do you know they wanted 50%, and even if this was true, he's their player and they can value the player at what they like, just as we do with our players.

They will still get what we offered or even more in the summer, and he will be there until then scoring goals for fun too.

We slate rantic for doing this, we cant have it both ways?

My first post answers your 50% question

We made an outstandingly good offer for “potential” if figures quoted on here and in the media are to be believed.

We criticise Rantic for low ball offers or offers aimed at destabilising opposition. In this case neither applied.
I absolutely agree DFC are entitled to hold a player to contract. However, it seems they were prepared to be without this “goals for fun” player for some indiscernible potential

Let’s move on, it was a great window for us IMHO

[blackpoolhibs]

My first post answers your 50% question

Am i right in you are just guessing about the 50%, or going by what one of our in the know folk have said?

We made an outstandingly good offer for “potential” if figures quoted on here and in the media are to be believed.

We may have made a outstanding offer, but it did not match what they wanted, i cant fathom why you dont seem to understand this?

We criticise Rantic for low ball offers or offers aimed at destabilising opposition. In this case neither applied.

This is exactly like that, they need him and his goals for their chances of promotion this season, albeit an outside chance, but he's worth more to them now especially when its the last day of the window, with no chance of getting someone in to replace him so late in the day.

And he will still be worth what we offered in the summer, maybe more?

I absolutely agree DFC are entitled to hold a player to contract. However, it seems they were prepared to be without this “goals for fun” player for some indiscernible potential

Of course they were, like every club in scotland, every player has a price, but we never matched it? :confused:

Let’s move on, it was a great window for us IMHO

:agree:

[Ronniekirk]

To be fair.

We started the window with Flo, Doidge & Shaw

And look to be ending it with McNulty, Doidge & Gullan

So I wouldn’t say we’re any lighter than we were probably just not as strong in attack as we want to be

And Gullan nerds game time to develop


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[JohnMcM]

Thinking about how we tried to get Nisbet I wondered about a pre-contract signing being a possibility. To be honest I don't fully understand pre-contracts. Anyone able to describe what they actually entail? Thanks.

[GloryGlory]

Whilst it is disappointing to lose out on a player we bid quite a substantial amount for, the positives are:

1) that money's in the war chest for the summer window, and
2) it allows one of our own - Jamie Gullan - a chance to show what he can do. He'll surely get game time off the bench between now and the end of the season. It's up to him to grab his chance and give JR a decision to make.

[bringbackbenny]

And Gullan nerds game time to develop
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This is key, there must always be a 'space' for the development players to fill and get their shot at the managers bequest. We've failed in that regard in recent years and hopefully Gullen will be one of the first to benefit. Ggtth

[DTS]

Thinking about how we tried to get Nisbet I wondered about a pre-contract signing being a possibility. To be honest I don't fully understand pre-contracts. Anyone able to describe what they actually entail? Thanks.

When a player enters the final 6 months of a contract they are free to speak to other teams and agree terms for the end of their current deal.

[JohnMcM]

When a player enters the final 6 months of a contract they are free to speak to other teams and agree terms for the end of their current deal.

Thanks.
Do you know if that is 'binding' agreement for both parties? I should have made it more clear what I was asking.

[Jack Hackett]

Thanks.
Do you know if that is 'binding' agreement for both parties? I should have made it more clear what I was asking.

Yes and no :greengrin


https://www.blakemorgan.co.uk/the-enforceability-of-pre-contracts-in-football/

[Hibbyradge]

Thanks.
Do you know if that is 'binding' agreement for both parties? I should have made it more clear what I was asking.

I think it is. It's a signed contract.

I've never heard of anyone breaking one. :dunno:

[CapitalGreen]

I think it is. It's a signed contract.

I've never heard of anyone breaking one. :dunno:

They are not legally binding in Scotland.

[KingPat4]

Anyone know how close we were to signing Nisbet?

[BoomtownHibees]

I think it is. It's a signed contract.

I've never heard of anyone breaking one. :dunno:

I think it can be broken if all parties agree. Did it no happen with St J a few years ago?

[we are hibs]

I think it can be broken if all parties agree. Did it no happen with St J a few years ago?

Yeah st.johnstone and ross county about richard brittain

[Ozyhibby]

I'd take Tony Watt.

I get that he played for them but did he say something in particular to make us all hate him?

He just not very good?


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[thegaffer12]

We've just signed Matt Yates, an 18 year old striker from Rangers. Believe it's for the development squad though.

[JammyDoidger]

I'd be happy with us singing a winger to give us more option in the wide areas. We've only got boyle and Horgan atm. Boyle can always play upfront if any injurys, id prioritise a winger over a striker for now.

[CapitalGreen]

We've just signed Matt Yates, an 18 year old striker from Rangers. Believe it's for the development squad though.

Scored twice against our u18s a couple of months ago.

[greenlex]

Thinking about how we tried to get Nisbet I wondered about a pre-contract signing being a possibility. To be honest I don't fully understand pre-contracts. Anyone able to describe what they actually entail? Thanks.

Nisbet would be off his head to sign a pre contract with Hibs .
We’ve already shown how keen we are on him. He can now afford to wait till the Summer an see what transpires. He might have a choice of something more lucrative. We aren’t going anywhere in the next 6 months.

[Hibbyradge]

They are not legally binding in Scotland.

Oh, I remember something about that.

I'm off to t'internet to see what I can learn about it.

[Hibbyradge]

Hmm.

It's very confused.

https://www.blakemorgan.co.uk/the-enforceability-of-pre-contracts-in-football/

If pre-contracts aren't binding, why did Ross County pay St Johnstone compensation?

Plus, the contents of the final paragraphs suggest that they are binding.

Very strange.

[Hibbyradge]

Nisbet would be off his head to sign a pre contract with Hibs .
We’ve already shown his keen we are on him. He can now afford to wait till the Summer an see what transpires. He might have a choice of something more lucrative. We aren’t going anywhere in the next 6 months.

I take your point, but why does anyone sign a pre-contract in that case?

[CapitalGreen]

Hmm.

It's very confused.

https://www.blakemorgan.co.uk/the-enforceability-of-pre-contracts-in-football/

If pre-contracts aren't binding, why did Ross County pay St Johnstone compensation?

Plus, the contents of the final paragraphs suggest that they are binding.

Very strange.

To avoid it going to court. Pre contracts have never been tested under Scots law so they cannot be considered legally binding.

[greenlex]

I take your point, but why does anyone sign a pre-contract in that case?

Someone with a deal so good that deep down they know won’t get bettered.

[Iggy Pope]

Nisbet would be off his head to sign a pre contract with Hibs .
We’ve already shown how keen we are on him. He can now afford to wait till the Summer an see what transpires. He might have a choice of something more lucrative. We aren’t going anywhere in the next 6 months.

Is his contract up in the summer? You’d think Dunfermline would’ve cashed in no?

[Joe6-2]

When a player enters the final 6 months of a contract they are free to speak to other teams and agree terms for the end of their current deal.

How long does Nisbet have on his contract?

[Keyser Sauzee]

I might have missed it but his contract isn’t even up in the summer so he can’t sign a pre contract, pointless suggesting so.

[SHODAN]

Nisbet's contract ends in 2021. He can't sign a pre-contract this season.

[BoomtownHibees]

How long does Nisbet have on his contract?

18 months I think

[Joe6-2]

Nisbet's contract ends in 2021. He can't sign a pre-contract this season.

Thought that, or I’m sure Dumfy would have bitten our hand off

[Hibbyradge]

To avoid it going to court. Pre contracts have never been tested under Scots law so they cannot be considered legally binding.

Right.

So they still have some weight.

I know it's an academic discussion, because they're honoured 99.9% of the time. As Lex said, there's little chance of Nesbit signing one anyway.

What I can forsee, however, is Hibs making an early offer for him in the summer, but Dunfermline holding out for a better price and this place going into the usual meltdown of blame, criticism with #penny-pinching and #no-ambition trending on Twitter!.

I'd love to see fans running their clubb, just as long as it's not ours. It would be hilarious!

[malcolm]

To avoid it going to court. Pre contracts have never been tested under Scots law so they cannot be considered legally binding.

All properly constituted contracts are legally binding in that they set obligations to both parties but the terms any contract can be breached and there will be penalties and consequences for doing so that may be pursued in court. In terms of a football contract one necessary element outside any contract is the registration of the player with the league. Without that they can’t play so the willingness of the football authorities to recognise a contract for registration purposes I think is nil over 6 months in advance.

The term ‘pre’ is both misleading and factual- such a contract is just a contract but what the agreement that it documents refers in effect to a further contract the terms and conditions thereof is set out in the first.

My view is they are a formally made promise the breaches of which are not really something that will have played out but give some robust assurance to both parties.

[CapitalGreen]

All properly constituted contracts are legally binding in that they set obligations to both parties but the terms any contract can be breached and there will be penalties and consequences for doing so that may be pursued in court. In terms of a football contract one necessary element outside any contract is the registration of the player with the league. Without that they can’t play so the willingness of the football authorities to recognise a contract for registration purposes I think is nil over 6 months in advance.

The term ‘pre’ is both misleading and factual- such a contract is just a contract but what the agreement that it documents refers in effect to a further contract the terms and conditions thereof is set out in the first.

My view is they are a formally made promise the breaches of which are not really something that will have played out but give some robust assurance to both parties.

I don’t believe the SFA recognise contracts for registration purposes in advance even within the final 6 months.

[JohnMcM]

Thinking about how we tried to get Nisbet I wondered about a pre-contract signing being a possibility. To be honest I don't fully understand pre-contracts. Anyone able to describe what they actually entail? Thanks.

Thanks to everyone who contributed an answer to my question. Much appreciated.:greengrin

[Deansy]

Not good enough for Switzerland you have to whore yourself to Albania but it’s a “DREAM “ to play for rangers? FANNY


Perfectly summed-up!. It's not often the Hun get a player they so richly deserve but in this particular fannie's case - it's a doozey !

[Speedway]

We missed a golden opportunity to sign Kenny and Mikel, the Miller brothers, last night.

[Potty78]

Thanks to everyone who contributed an answer to my question. Much appreciated.:greengrin

He has 18 months left on his contract👍

[Heisenberg]

Have we got any trialists or new youth signings? Noticed a foreign guy in the west stand with a Hibs jacket on that I don’t recognise. Sitting with Dabrowski. Looks a bit too old to me to be youth team. Could just be a pal or something but, and this sounds weird, he looked like a footballer.

[Callum_62]

Nisbit on bench today

Probably gives an idea where his head is at

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[tonyrougier123]

We need a centre half
Lets sign efe ambrose! Efe ambrose!

[Not In The Know]

I see Nisbet wasn’t in the Dunfermline Team today. I wonder if he was a bit miffed he never got his move last night.

[malcolm]

I don’t believe the SFA recognise contracts for registration purposes in advance even within the final 6 months.

Yes we are actually in agreement :wink: What I meant is that I understood that the SFA would not see a pre contract, signed over 6 months in advance that becomes the current contract, as being valid and so would only register the player when the previous clubs contract ended if a completely separate contract is then signed.

Anyway it’s all a bit moot at the moment :greengrin

[Smartie]

I see Nisbet wasn’t in the Dunfermline Team today. I wonder if he was a bit miffed he never got his move last night.

Seemingly it didn't go down too well with their fans as they missed 3 easy chances in the first 5 minutes with him on the bench.

[Heisenberg]

I see Nisbet wasn’t in the Dunfermline Team today. I wonder if he was a bit miffed he never got his move last night.

He was kicking about at the warm up looking not best pleased apparently. Could well be due to him not being picked right enough.

[Halmyre Hibee]

He was kicking about at the warm up looking not best pleased apparently. Could well be due to him not being picked right enough.

According to Pars fans forum he took a knock in last match and they didn’t want to risk him on a plastic pitch. It also said he wanted to go to Hibs. I thought we also made an enquiry for Mikel Miller of Hamilton out of contract in summer so if we are serious could get him on a pre contract agreement.

[04Sauzee]

Alex Gocic looked decent for Hamilton today, can play DM very well and out of contract in the summer. There are a few we gems in the Scottish league.

[brog]

I see Nisbet wasn’t in the Dunfermline Team today. I wonder if he was a bit miffed he never got his move last night.

Mikel Miller nowhere to be seen either today. Perhaps he's injured.

[eastmainsmsh]

We need a centre half
Lets sign efe ambrose! Efe ambrose!

Ditto would settle the defence down PH and DM and RP were better when efe was here

[Hibeesmad]

Tony Watt to sign for Motherwell apparently.

[Ronniekirk]

Tony Watt to sign for Motherwell apparently.

Not to bothered would rather see a youngster get game time off the bench
If we are serious about wanting to develop young talent we need to play them or they end up not getting a proper opportunity
We aren’t going to get relegated and we probably aren’t going to get a European Spot as drawing too many games
So use the rest of the season to allow Hammer and Murray and anyone else highly regarded in that system get game time and see what they can do
Hammer was doing well at Raith Rovers It’s hampering his development if he is just going to sit on our bench


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[HoboHarry]

Jack Hendry got crocked pretty quick in Australia and he'll be out for a while.....

[04Sauzee]

Hadn't realised big Dave had joined Glentoran

[04Sauzee]

Ross Wallace signs for St Mirren until the end of the season, he's 34 now but was a great player in his day. Was playing regularly and well for Sheffield Wednesday only a couple of season ago.

[04Sauzee]

Ross Wallace signs for St Mirren until the end of the season, he's 34 now but was a great player in his day. Was playing regularly and well for Sheffield Wednesday only a couple of season ago.

One of his funniest moments on a fiorball pitch

https://twitter.com/stramashing/status/1227278759860088832?s=19

[Cod Boy]

Ross Wallace signs for St Mirren until the end of the season, he's 34 now but was a great player in his day. Was playing regularly and well for Sheffield Wednesday only a couple of season ago.

Was at Fleetwood last season very ordinary performances.