Winter 2019-20 transfer thread

[Lago]

Once pooled, a significant proportion goes to the top 2 teams in the league though, with all of the others miles behind.

Or have I got this wrong?

We could have changed this but that Aberdeen dick refused to.

And there's the problem😒

[Ozyhibby]

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[Bad Habits]

Lorenzo Crisetig

Incredible player for our level

[CMurdoch]

Incredible player for our level

Has generally played in Serie B so probably Liam Henderson standard

[J-C]

Good stats on FM20, DM preferred position too

[Unseen work]

I know nothing about him either tbh.

Received a text but may be nothing in it!

Is the text from someone reliable or likely to be ‘ITK’?

[Robbo6-2]

If we sign Lorenzo Crisetig it could be a beans moment

[Hermit Crab]

If we sign Lorenzo Crisetig it could be a beans moment


:confused:

[hibs#1]

Lorenzo Crisetig

Signed him on Football Manager the other week.

[Jones28]

:confused:

Possibly referencing Grammo and the bean bath when deek re-signed?

[Robbo6-2]

Seen Lorenzo Crisetig few times and he is the dogs

[CapitalGreen]

Has generally played in Serie B so probably Liam Henderson standard

No, he has generally played at Serie A level. He has played 96 games over the previous 5 seasons, 84 of which have been for teams playing in Serie A.

[SaulGoodman]

Looks like a great signing but can’t see it happening.

[hibee-boys]

Looks like a great signing but can’t see it happening.

That'll be that then!😂

[flash]

Looks like a great signing but can’t see it happening.

The Oracle has spoken.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Looks like a great signing but can’t see it happening.

Oi pal
Get on skyscanner and get giving us your oracle powers
FFS mate

[Torto7]

I've watched Crisetig before as I follow Inter. He's a bit like Matic at Man Utd. Technically he's really good. I'm not really sure why he hasn't settled down as a Seria A regular as he has the ability.

It would be an outstanding signing for us imo if it's a goer.

[hibs#1]

Has been without a club since September.

[bingo70]

I've watched Crisetig before as I follow Inter. He's a bit like Matic at Man Utd. Technically he's really good. I'm not really sure why he hasn't settled down as a Seria A regular as he has the ability.

It would be an outstanding signing for us imo if it's a goer.

I am guessing someone signed him for Hibs on Football Manager and that’s where the rumour stems from.

[Torto7]

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I am guessing someone signed him for Hibs on Football Manager and that’s where the rumour stems from.

Yeah that seems likely. Although he does seem to have been struggling the last year or two for games so you never know.

[Souter96Mac]

Love these sort of rumours

[J-C]

I am guessing someone signed him for Hibs on Football Manager and that’s where the rumour stems from.


I've just started a new FM game and went to sign him, his wages are higher than normal but he will sign, his stats are good and he is a DM. I didn't start the rumour, just looked him up out of curiosity as I've never heard of him, plus he's a lefty which would add balance to the side. TBH it is a very left field name to come out with, type of player the recruitment team finds, a bit like Hallberg and Omeonga.

[CMurdoch]

No, he has generally played at Serie A level. He has played 96 games over the previous 5 seasons, 84 of which have been for teams playing in Serie A.

Cheers, had a we check.
Lorenzo Crisetig will be 27 in 2 days. Over the years he has had 6,000 minutes in Serie A and 6,000 minutes in Serie B
Serie B is pretty poxy with average attendances of 6,000 so nothing like the 2nd tier in England, Germany etc

Crisetig has had 2 seasons in Serie A where he played as a regular.
Both were on loan in struggling teams:
2014/15 Played for Cagliari who were relegated
2016/17 Played for Crotone who were in the relegation places all season until the last day when they won and saved their asses.

In conclusion Crisetig has consistantly struggled to get a foothold in Serie A so probably about the standard of Liam Henderson.
Could probably do a job for us and is without a club this season.

[Torto7]

I've just started a new FM game and went to sign him, his wages are higher than normal but he will sign, his stats are good and he is a DM. I didn't start the rumour, just looked him up out of curiosity as I've never heard of him, plus he's a lefty which would add balance to the side. TBH it is a very left field name to come out with, type of player the recruitment team finds, a bit like Hallberg and Omeonga.

We're clearly looking at Italy and other countries as well as Mathie has said in his interviews. The more I think about this the more it seems plausible. He's no hatchet man either. He'd be the best passer at the club including Scott Allan.

[Robbo6-2]

Would be a unreal signing, be delighted if true

[Torto7]

Cheers, had a we check.
Crisetig will be 27 in 2 days. Over the years he has had 6,000 minutes in Serie A and 6,000 minutes in Serie B
Serie B is pretty poxy with average attendances of 6,000 so nothing like the 2nd tier in England, Germany etc

Crisetig has had 2 seasons in Serie A where he played as a regular.
Both were on loan in struggling teams:
2014/15 Played for Cagliari who were relegated
2016/17 Played for Crotone who were in the relegation places all season until the last day when they won and saved their asses.

In conclusion has consistantly struggled to get a foothold in Serie A so probably about the standard of Liam Henderson.
Could probably do a job for us although he has been without a club this season.


He's better than Henderson. I watched him with Inter in the nextgen and also friendlies and followed him at Crotone and Cagliari, I thought he would be a first team regular at Inter. I haven't seen him in the last 2 or 3 seasons though.

This is from 2014 but gives you an idea of what he's capable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xL6sdpaEM

[Eyrie]

We're clearly looking at Italy and other countries as well as Mathie has said in his interviews. The more I think about this the more it seems plausible. He's no hatchet man either. He'd be the best passer at the club including Scott Allan.

So he could do both the Bartley and McGeouch roles?

[JohnM1875]

Lorenzo Crisetig is a former FM legend. On that alone, I want us to sign him.

[JohnMcM]

Looks like a great signing but can’t see it happening.

Hang on Saul, my celestial reading, plane spotting friend. You know as well as I do that Aquarius is on the rise with the shadow of Pluto in it's last quarter.

You see things we mere mortals cannot understand. Are you sure you cannot see this happening?

All hail the all seeing eye of Saul the Super:not worth

[Torto7]

So he could do both the Bartley and McGeouch roles?

He's not as hard as Bartley, but he reads the game well. He's a superior playmaker to McGeouch.

[Springbank]

One downside for Saul is this potential signing refuses to travel Ryanair so its Alitalia and Jet2 we'll need to start tracking...

[Keyser Sauzee]

I’m guessing this is just a daft rumour started and we will never see Crisetig play in Scotland never mind for Hibs.

[Jim44]

One downside for Saul is this potential signing refuses to travel Ryanair so its Alitalia and Jet2 we'll need to start tracking...

Stuff him. I can’t stand airline snobbery.

[The 90+2]

Mcnulty?

[SteveHFC]

We're trying to get McNulty back according to the sun.

[The 90+2]

We're trying to get McNulty back according to the sun.

👍💚

[SaulGoodman]

🙏🙏🙏

[MWHIBBIES]

Lorenzo Crisetig

Absolute FM legend.

[CMurdoch]

We're trying to get McNulty back according to the sun.

They know nothing and simply make the same connections that many of us do.

[The 90+2]

They know nothing and simply make the same connections that many of us do.

There’s definitely something in it.

[CMurdoch]

He's better than Henderson. I watched him with Inter in the nextgen and also friendlies and followed him at Crotone and Cagliari, I thought he would be a first team regular at Inter. I haven't seen him in the last 2 or 3 seasons though.

This is from 2014 but gives you an idea of what he's capable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xL6sdpaEM

So why do you think he hasn't made it in Serie A?

He was loaned out to the duffers of Serie A whilst the parent clubs held onto his registration in the hope he would do well enough to keep or sell. Eventually he was an investment that didn't work out and now at 27 (in 1 day) he has no club.

Certainly looks good in the clip you posted but everyone looks good in these things. Edited to within an inch of it's life.

[Vault Boy]

McNulty would make a lot of sense for all parties.

I do worry about the long term sustainability of yet again relying on 6 month loans in January, however I understand that this is the reality of where we are and we won't find many better players during this window who aren't loanees.

Hopefully we can have a strong second half of the season, starting today, leading into a more productive summer.

[The 90+2]

McNulty would make a lot of sense for all parties.

I do worry about the long term sustainability of yet again relying on 6 month loans in January, however I understand that this is the reality of where we are and we won't find many better players during this window who aren't loanees.

Hopefully we can have a strong second half of the season, starting today, leading into a more productive summer.

McNulty comes it won’t be a loan.

[CMurdoch]

There’s definitely something in it.

There is, but it's nothing that most of us can't see or at least reasonably speculate about
i.e. McNulty not really cutting it at Sunderland who have signed Lafferty and are in for a free scoring striker in Boyce. If they get him Sunderland will want to get out of all or part of the loan deal for McNulty with Reading. They know he was here last season and that both parties are likely to be keen to do it again this season. I wouldn't be surprised if a representative of Sunderland has spoken to Graeme Mathie about whether we would be interested.
Not rocket science.

[CMurdoch]

McNulty comes it won’t be a loan.

I strongly disagree.
McNulty will definitely be a loan if he comes to Hibs

[Vault Boy]

McNulty comes it won’t be a loan.

The article says otherwise, would be a good signing either way.

[The 90+2]

I strongly disagree.
McNulty will definitely be a loan if he comes to Hibs

I don’t think so. He’s working on his release from Reading and won’t be back at Reading from Sunderland unless it’s to leave them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I notice Brandon Barker couldn't even make the starting IX for the Current Buns against Stranraer and came on as a 2nd half sub. Boy could we do with a left sided wide man. I wonder if Man City would be prepared to cancel his loan and send him to us instead, though I dare say there's a rule against such a thing :greengrin

[Vault Boy]

I notice Brandon Barker couldn't even make the starting IX for the Current Buns against Stranraer and came on as a 2nd half sub. Boy could we do with a left sided wide man. I wonder if Man City would be prepared to cancel his loan and send him to us instead, though I dare say there's a rule against such a thing :greengrin

He's at them permanently

[CMurdoch]

I don’t think so. He’s working on his release from Reading and won’t be back at Reading from Sunderland unless it’s to leave them.

The problem is his £10k a week contract at Reading which has 30 months to run. £1.25 million is therefore due to him in that time.

He won't get another bumper contract like this ever again so it's not in his interest to get paid off unless he gets most of the cash which in turn makes no sense for Reading.

[The 90+2]

The problem is his £10k a week contract at Reading which has 30 months to run. £1.25 million is therefore due to him in that time.

He won't get another bumper contract like this ever again so it's not in his interest to get paid off unless he gets most of the cash which in turn makes no sense for Reading.

It does when it comes to FFP and he’s off the books next season. They’ve tried to shop window him and had an agreement with Sunderland to sell in the summer too.

[Unseen work]

Good to see we’re trying to get good quality in with guys like Omeonga, McNulty and Henderson. Guys that would really improve the squad and understand the club.

i just hope we’re able to make some of these permanent however it may prove difficult given McNulty and Omeonga are both contracted to the Sumer of 2022 so would likely involve a fee.

Still need a big defensive midfielder in there.

[Hibs90]

Looksike a player but lost his way perhaps. Text came from an ex player in the 7 a side group chat so who knows. Probably will turn out to be nothing

[Alex Trager]

Looksike a player but lost his way perhaps. Text came from an ex player in the 7 a side group chat so who knows. Probably will turn out to be nothing

This the boy Lorenzo you are talking about?
Seems like it would be a great addition

[Hibs90]

This the boy Lorenzo you are talking about?
Seems like it would be a great addition

Yeah sorry.

Trying to find out why he's been without a club since last year. Wonder if he has been injured or there's maybe another problem.

[Brightside]

McNulty comes it won’t be a loan.

It will be a loan with agreed option to buy at end of season.

[Brightside]

He's at them permanently

And he’s turned out to be shiyite at Rangers.

[SHODAN]

JACK ROSS plans to sign Reading striker Marc McNulty for the second time this season.
Hibs manager Ross is keen to take McNulty on loan, just a few months after signing him for Sunderland on the same basis.


McNulty was a success at Hibs last season and Ross would like him back

KENNY RAMSAY - THE SUN GLASGOW
McNulty was a success at Hibs last season and Ross would like him back
Reading will let McNulty leave for a new club if he wants.

Swindon are also keen, but the hitman may fancy a second spell at Hibs, where he played last season.


The Scotland international grabbed eight goals in 17 appearances for the capital club last term.

Ross is on the look out for reinforcements this month and one player he narrowly missed on was Liam Henderson.

[Winston Ingram]

McNulty comes it won’t be a loan.

He must be writing off a huge salary and we must be paying a large fee then.

[makaveli1875]

QPR were scouting Hickey yesterday, they're ready to do battle with AC Milan, Man City and Barcelona for his signature

[Since452]

Les Ferdinand up at Tannadice today to watch Shankland. Wonder if we can get him on a 6 month loan. Would do a job 😉

[04Sauzee]

QPR were scouting Hickey yesterday, they're ready to do battle with AC Milan, Man City and Barcelona for his signature

Think they are meant to be at Tannadice today looking over Shankland

[GreenCastle]

McNulty has family links in Edinburgh and was here over Xmas. Like LG I think he will be back at Hibs at some point.

LG, McNulty and Flo up top ! Would like to see that !

[Brightside]

McNulty has family links in Edinburgh and was here over Xmas. Like LG I think he will be back at Hibs at some point.

LG, McNulty and Flo up top ! Would like to see that !

Family links? Aye his whole family live here as does his missus family. 😂

[Brightside]

QPR were scouting Hickey yesterday, they're ready to do battle with AC Milan, Man City and Barcelona for his signature

Palace in for Hickey too. Purchase then loan back to hearts

[Caversham Green]

It does when it comes to FFP and he’s off the books next season. They’ve tried to shop window him and had an agreement with Sunderland to sell in the summer too.

Reading have cleared their FFP woes by a sale and lease deal on their stadium. Like Underscore I think it will be a loan with option to buy if he comes to Hibs - likewise if he goes to Swindon.

On another tack, would anyone take Sone Aluko on loan? He's back at Reading but I can't see him being in Bowen's plans as he's been absolute mince here. Did alright at Aberdeen though.

[Captain Trips]

The problem is his £10k a week contract at Reading which has 30 months to run. £1.25 million is therefore due to him in that time.

He won't get another bumper contract like this ever again so it's not in his interest to get paid off unless he gets most of the cash which in turn makes no sense for Reading.

So he stays there is guaranteed 1.25m but mind if agrees pay off for a bit less he is then going to be paid by us or whoever for that same period. If we gave him 4k per week per say that's 400k over 2 years so if reading gave him 800k to cancel it he is no worse off.

[Hibby Bairn]

He must be writing off a huge salary and we must be paying a large fee then.

Not really. He’ll just agree a deal to leave which will see a large lump sum paid in lieu of early termination of his contract. The club will save some cash and he will get the benefit of lump sum cash in the bank and into a new contract with another club straight away.

[Hibby Bairn]

So he stays there is guaranteed 1.25m but mind if agrees pay off for a bit less he is then going to be paid by us or whoever for that same period. If we gave him 4k per week per say that's 400k over 2 years so if reading gave him 800k to cancel it he is no worse off.

Plus Reading save national insurance, pension. Get a slightly disgruntled player off their books and can use the cash saved to put towards another player. In reality he would probably settle for less than the difference. Depends how much he values playing, possibly being back in the Scotland set up and if he does well then maybe getting another move.

[Smartie]

Reading have cleared their FFP woes by a sale and lease deal on their stadium. Like Underscore I think it will be a loan with option to buy if he comes to Hibs - likewise if he goes to Swindon.

On another tack, would anyone take Sone Aluko on loan? He's back at Reading but I can't see him being in Bowen's plans as he's been absolute mince here. Did alright at Aberdeen though.

Aluko's had a decent career down South but I can't remember ever thinking he was better than distinctly average at either Aberdeen or Rangers.

He's one of those players whose game possibly suits the Championship better than the league up here. You can do quite well in the Championship if you're big and strong or small and quick - it's a very physical league.

In my opinion he'd be a signing based on name over substance and they rarely work out well.

[Tobias Funke]

I strongly disagree.
McNulty will definitely be a loan if he comes to Hibs

I strongly disagree too. Not that I have any inside knowledge, just on the basis 90+2 is a slaver and was spouting similar ITK p*sh about McNulty coming back in the summer.

[ekhibee]

Article in EN saying Polish side Lech Posnan have had a bid turned down for Kamberi.

[Borderhibbie76]

It will be a loan with agreed option to buy at end of season.

Is than ITK Underscore or just an educated guess?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Article in EN saying Polish side Lech Posnan have had a bid turned down for Kamberi.

It was cash now and then final payment in summer. Not ideal for us.

[Nicho87]

Les Ferdinand up at Tannadice today to watch Shankland. Wonder if we can get him on a 6 month loan. Would do a job 😉

I’m worried his eye is drawn to Boyle.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Hopefully McNulty gets an agreement to terminate his contract. Even £500,000 is a ton of money to get in a lump sum, even though if he waits then he’d get over £1million but how much would his career be impacted waiting another couple of years not getting game time.

Half a million plus a contract at Hibs, up with his family must be a tempting offer, considering his last time at Hibs got him into the national squad too.

[Eyrie]

So he stays there is guaranteed 1.25m but mind if agrees pay off for a bit less he is then going to be paid by us or whoever for that same period. If we gave him 4k per week per say that's 400k over 2 years so if reading gave him 800k to cancel it he is no worse off.

In which case Reading will want a transfer fee that covers most of the pay off, so we're looking at £500k+ even if McNulty takes a hit in exchange for getting the money immediately.

I'd expect a loan which Reading will hope raises his profile enough to encourage bids in the summer. We could be one of those bidders depending on how well he does - too well and he's out of our reach, not well enough and we won't want him.

[Jim44]

It was cash now and then final payment in summer. Not ideal for us.

That type of deal would suggest they won’t be able to up the ante. Suits us as I think we have to hold on to Kamberi till summer at least. I can’t help feeling he is not really settled at ER these days and will eventually go.

[Brightside]

Is than ITK Underscore or just an educated guess?

It’s what reading are negotiating from all clubs asking to take him on loan.

[HendoDelivered]

Hibs have spoken to his agent but it’s up to Sunderland. This came from his old boy.

[Gmack7]

I'd like McNulty at ER but the fact that Lafferty looks like he's moved ahead of him at Sunderland suggests he is not in great form.
Hopefully he's like SA and is a good fit at Hibs

[CMurdoch]

I notice Brandon Barker couldn't even make the starting IX for the Current Buns against Stranraer and came on as a 2nd half sub. Boy could we do with a left sided wide man. I wonder if Man City would be prepared to cancel his loan and send him to us instead, though I dare say there's a rule against such a thing :greengrin


He's at them permanently

Very hesitant, looks lost like he did in his early days with us.
Would struggle to get a game at Hibs from what i've seen of him at Rangers.

[CMurdoch]

Hibs have spoken to his agent but it’s up to Sunderland. This came from his old boy.

That's interesting. As stated previously depends if Sunderland can get the likes of Liam Boyce in who they obviously prefer to McNulty

[CMurdoch]

In which case Reading will want a transfer fee that covers most of the pay off, so we're looking at £500k+ even if McNulty takes a hit in exchange for getting the money immediately.

I'd expect a loan which Reading will hope raises his profile enough to encourage bids in the summer. We could be one of those bidders depending on how well he does - too well and he's out of our reach, not well enough and we won't want him.

I think Hibs would value McNulty at approx. £200k and £3k a week.

£200k is no use to Reading if they have to pay him off and £3k a week is no use to McNulty without a £700k pay off so in conclusion McNulty can only be a loan to Hibs for another 2 years.
Like Griffiths he will arrive at Easter Road when the gravy train pulls in or like Henderson, when we are the best option.

[CMurdoch]

Reading have cleared their FFP woes by a sale and lease deal on their stadium. Like Underscore I think it will be a loan with option to buy if he comes to Hibs - likewise if he goes to Swindon.

On another tack, would anyone take Sone Aluko on loan? He's back at Reading but I can't see him being in Bowen's plans as he's been absolute mince here. Did alright at Aberdeen though.

Sone Aluku has done well to forge a career down south from what I saw of him at Aberdeen and Rangers.
Hibs signing him would have disaster written all over it.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Wonder if we'll sell Flo and replace him with MM on a perm deal? Giving MM a sizable signing on fee to compensate his loss of earnings from reading?

[Unseen work]

Can we read much into the team today?

Jackson
Murray
James
Gullan

All not in the squad.

[J-C]

Can we read much into the team today?

Jackson
Murray
James
Gullan

All not in the squad.


Not surprised Murray and Gullan aren't there, Jamie is only just back from a loan, maybe expect them to go on loan to maybe a championship team.

[Ozyhibby]

We desperately need a defensive midfielder. It’s cost us progress today. Let’s hope it doesn’t cost us points on Wednesday. Club need to get a grip.
And Ross needs to get a grip as well if he thinks that Whittaker is the answer.


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[Allant1981]

We desperately need a defensive midfielder. It’s cost us progress today. Let’s hope it doesn’t cost us points on Wednesday. Club need to get a grip.
And Ross needs to get a grip as well if he thinks that Whittaker is the answer.


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It didnt cost us the game today at all

[Brightside]

We desperately need a defensive midfielder. It’s cost us progress today. Let’s hope it doesn’t cost us points on Wednesday. Club need to get a grip.
And Ross needs to get a grip as well if he thinks that Whittaker is the answer.


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Totally agree. Can’t really blame Whitts but we shouldn’t be in a position where we are playing him.

[flash]

Can we read much into the team today?

Jackson
Murray
James
Gullan

All not in the squad.
Be surprised if any of them are still around at the end of the month.

[Ozyhibby]

It didnt cost us the game today at all

It absolutely did. Whittaker directly at fault for their 2nd and their first goal came right through the middle as well.


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[Allant1981]

It absolutely did. Whittaker directly at fault for their 2nd and their first goal came right through the middle as well.


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Gray also let the boy get away from him for the 2nd and the 1st was not the fault of SW at all, the CH's and stevenson were to blame for that but you fire in

[MacGruber]

Whittaker had a good game today, one of our better performers. Just point deducted for being turned before the goal but the second goal was David Gray's fault. Wouldn't be too hard on Gray though as 1, he can't be match fit and 2, he is Sir David Gray

[MacGruber]

It absolutely did. Whittaker directly at fault for their 2nd and their first goal came right through the middle as well.


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Sorry, just rubbish.

[jeffers]

Depending on how bad Naismith’s injury is I wonder if it means we will keep hold of James.

[Crab apple]

Be surprised if any of them are still around at the end of the month.

We’ll need to shift PH’s players - Vela, James and Jackson, who are on decent contracts but don’t get in the squad, before we can bring in quality in the positions we’re so obviously short in.

[Crab apple]

Gray also let the boy get away from him for the 2nd and the 1st was not the fault of SW at all, the CH's and stevenson were to blame for that but you fire in

Agreed. Centre halfs and then Stevenson with a weak challenge at fault for first.

[Peevemor]

Every goal we lose is scrutinised and someone ends up getting the blame. Sometimes our players will be turned/beaten without necessarily making any huge mistake. Sometimes an opposition player will thread through a killer Allanesque pass that beats our defence - it doesn't always mean that they're asleep or "soft as *****".

Yes there are times when we could/should defend better, but there isn't a team in the world that doesn't concede goals.

I know this is a forum for discussions, but at times the inquisitions and accusations on here are way OTT.

[hibee_girl]

Every goal we lose is scrutinised and someone ends up getting the blame. Sometimes our players will be turned/beaten without necessarily making any huge mistake. Sometimes an opposition player will thread through a killer Allanesque pass that beats our defence - it doesn't always mean that they're asleep or "soft as *****".

Yes there are times when we could/should defend better, but there isn't a team in the world that doesn't concede goals.

I know this is a forum for discussions, but at times the inquisitions and accusations on here are way OTT.

:top marks

We drew 2-2 in a tricky away cup tie against the Championship leaders in our first game back in 3 weeks.

It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be.

[we are hibs]

Its only not a bad result if we win the replay. We shouldve had it done and dusted today and not forced ourselves into 4 midweek games in a row.

[Crab apple]

:top marks

We drew 2-2 in a tricky away cup tie against the Championship leaders in our first game back in 3 weeks.

It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be.

Exactly. We should have won but I would probably have taken that result before the game started.

[Vault Boy]

Every goal we lose is scrutinised and someone ends up getting the blame. Sometimes our players will be turned/beaten without necessarily making any huge mistake. Sometimes an opposition player will thread through a killer Allanesque pass that beats our defence - it doesn't always mean that they're asleep or "soft as *****".

Yes there are times when we could/should defend better, but there isn't a team in the world that doesn't concede goals.

I know this is a forum for discussions, but at times the inquisitions and accusations on here are way OTT.

I'd agree with this. A lot more needs to be made of our defensive shape and transitioning phases than individuals IMO. It's not like we have a Berra-level huddy at the back, it's stemming from a midfield that consistently fail to make challenges which isolates defenders who all have their weaknesses.

It's a more wide spread issue than a couple of particular players.

[04Sauzee]

:top marks

We drew 2-2 in a tricky away cup tie against the Championship leaders in our first game back in 3 weeks.

It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be.
Correct it really isn't

[brog]

Agreed. Centre halfs and then Stevenson with a weak challenge at fault for first.

Stevenson & Naismith were 3 yards behind Hanlon for the 1st goal. If they stay in line with last central defender, Shankland is then offside. That's lesson 1 in basic defending!

[jeffers]

Every goal we lose is scrutinised and someone ends up getting the blame. Sometimes our players will be turned/beaten without necessarily making any huge mistake. Sometimes an opposition player will thread through a killer Allanesque pass that beats our defence - it doesn't always mean that they're asleep or "soft as *****".

Yes there are times when we could/should defend better, but there isn't a team in the world that doesn't concede goals.

I know this is a forum for discussions, but at times the inquisitions and accusations on here are way OTT.

That would be fair enough if it happened now and again but our defence has been leaking goals all season and rarely keeps a clean sheet.

[Allant1981]

Correct it really isn't

League leaders or not we blew that game, after watching dundee utd today I cant see why folk were raving about them on here, we gifted them their 2 goals

[Peevemor]

That would be fair enough if it happened now and again but our defence has been leaking goals all season and rarely keeps a clean sheet.As Vault Boy said a couple of posts ago, there's more to it than just defensive errors.

[Peevemor]

League leaders or not we blew that game, after watching dundee utd today I cant see why folk were raving about them on here, we gifted them their 2 goalsDid they gift us our goals? Surely it works both ways?

[Allant1981]

Did they gift us our goals? Surely it works both ways?

Nope they didnt, good play for both our goals, theirs came from bad defending

[Partyraiser]

I'd have taken a draw before the game, but after being ahead twice and dominating for most of it I'm a bit scunnered we need to play a replay. However I'm confident of taking care of them at easter road and we'll hopefully have a couple more signings in by then to bolster us

[cabbage_88]

Should have won that game, marciano never had a save to make. Flo and Boyle looked class especially second half.

Not having the 'would have taken a draw beforehand' though. Should not be happy to take a draw against anyone in a lower league. Should have finished that today 100%, poor defending cost us. Need to put them to bed in the replay

[Partyraiser]

Nope they didnt, good play for both our goals, theirs came from bad defending

Boyle's goal, despite being a great finish, came about because they didn't close him down early enough, which is bad defending in my book

[bingo70]

League leaders or not we blew that game, after watching dundee utd today I cant see why folk were raving about them on here, we gifted them their 2 goals

Boy scored from a shot from 20 yards into the bottom corner, in what sense is that gifting them a goal?

Surely gifting them a goal would be a Zibbi type error or one like Rockys against Rangers? In no way could their goals be considered gifts.

[Blurhibee]

Why are you guys talking about the cup game on the winter transfer window page?

[jeffers]

As Vault Boy said a couple of posts ago, there's more to it than just defensive errors.

Maybe so and a defensive midfielder for example would help but eventually defenders need to do their jobs and defend. None of our back four covered themselves in glory with Utd’s first goal today.

[B.H.F.C]

Gray also let the boy get away from him for the 2nd and the 1st was not the fault of SW at all, the CH's and stevenson were to blame for that but you fire in

Whittaker should have won the ball in the middle of the park for the first.

Actually thought he did all right, but mistakes in the lead up to both goals.

[Crab apple]

Stevenson & Naismith were 3 yards behind Hanlon for the 1st goal. If they stay in line with last central defender, Shankland is then offside. That's lesson 1 in basic defending!

As is not staying with your man as Hanlon failed to do meaning Stevenson drawn in only to get easily outmuscled by Shankland.

[Hibbyradge]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.

[hibeerealist]

Every goal we lose is scrutinised and someone ends up getting the blame. Sometimes our players will be turned/beaten without necessarily making any huge mistake. Sometimes an opposition player will thread through a killer Allanesque pass that beats our defence - it doesn't always mean that they're asleep or "soft as *****".

Yes there are times when we could/should defend better, but there isn't a team in the world that doesn't concede goals.

I know this is a forum for discussions, but at times the inquisitions and accusations on here are way OTT.

Our goals against column this season would certainly suggest they are soft.

[bingo70]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.

Ok, you go first 😉

[Franck Stanton]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.

Pretty please, with jam on

[ahibby]

Stevenson & Naismith were 3 yards behind Hanlon for the 1st goal. If they stay in line with last central defender, Shankland is then offside. That's lesson 1 in basic defending!

Yes its not the result thats a concern but the manner in which it comes about. No nonsense players required.

[Tully]

2nd goal why did Gray not put out for throw in,he played it aimlessly up the line just boot it out and get back into shape

[Lago]

:greengrin:aok:
Why are you guys talking about the cup game on the winter transfer window page?

[Lago]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.
OK what's the speculation

[ahibby]

:greengrin:aok:
How that happen?

[Iggy Pope]

2nd goal why did Gray not put out for throw in,he played it aimlessly up the line just boot it out and get back into shape

Porteous did the similar at the first equaliser when he had good possession with passes available to break yet he aimlessly booted it up the park straight back to them. We never got near it again and it was 1-1.

[S4uzee]

Porteous did the similar at the first equaliser when he had good possession with passes available to break yet he aimlessly booted it up the park straight back to them. We never got near it again and it was 1-1.

Yeah thought the same, could’ve passed it into midfield. The only time Gray kept it in when stretching to clear they scored ... typical

[Eyrie]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.

And puns.

There's been a real lack of decent material to work with this offseason. Gordon! :grr:

[Gmack7]

Can we keep this thread for transfer speculation, please.

ill speculste that Shankland will be away before the replay.

[HoboHarry]

And puns.

There's been a real lack of decent material to work with this offseason. Gordon! :grr:
Indeed, Stephane the gas Ron......

[04Sauzee]

ill speculste that Shankland will be away before the replay.

I'll speculate Hibs will have a minimum of 2 in 🤞

[Crab apple]

ill speculste that Shankland will be away before the replay.

Celtic looking at him today. Huns also. Hopefully Celtic interest in Boyler is just paper talk.

[Billy Whizz]

Celtic looking at him today. Huns also. Hopefully Celtic interest in Boyler is just paper talk.

Are you sure they were watching Boyle.

[IberianHibernian]

Would players signed now be eligible for replay ( if not cuptied obviously ) ? Is Omeonga eligible for replay ?

[Billy Whizz]

Would players signed now be eligible for replay ( if not cuptied obviously ) ? Is Omeonga eligible for replay ?
It’s a good question

[CallumLaidlaw]

It’s a good question


12.5 When a Match which is postponed, drawn, or abandoned is played or replayed, only those Players who were eligible, by means of their registration, to be listed on the Official Team Line for a Club at the date fixed for originally playing the Match, are eligible to be listed on the Official Team Line for that Club for the rescheduled Match.


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[Crab apple]

Are you sure they were watching Boyle.

Shankland defo. Boyler - only what I’ve read earlier.

[Billy Whizz]

12.5 When a Match which is postponed, drawn, or abandoned is played or replayed, only those Players who were eligible, by means of their registration, to be listed on the Official Team Line for a Club at the date fixed for originally playing the Match, are eligible to be listed on the Official Team Line for that Club for the rescheduled Match.


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Thanks, wonder where SO is within this

[Hibeesmad]

Thanks, wonder where SO is within this

Could well have been eligible today but JR probably thought not to include him as the squad have been working on this game for a while and he's only been in the door a couple of days.

[IberianHibernian]

Thanks, wonder where SO is within thisPresumably depends if international clearance was got in time for today . Hopefully club rushed application for clearance thinking of possible replay .

[Hibeesmad]

Would be surprised to see us let Jackson go now if Porteous is going to be out a few weeks.

[jonny]

Would be surprised to see us let Jackson go now if Porteous is going to be out a few weeks.

Me too. His lack of game time concerns me but I actually think he's a decent centre half and would have no fears about going through the next batch of games with him in the team.

[Crutch]

Surely we have to be in for Efe after yesterday..

Still without a club as far as i'm aware. Deal to the end of the season should be a no brainer.

[Greenworld]

Second bid for flo made did not know he had a 2 million release clause hopefully its substantial bid.

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[SHODAN]

Will Kamberi want to go to Poland?

[JohnM1875]

Will Kamberi want to go to Poland?

Better wages and chance of European football every season if its still Legia that's interested.

[Since452]

He'd be better off where he is and getting a move to England in the summer

[hibsmad]

I like Flo. Although he can be frustrating, he can be exciting and entertaining at the same time.

That being said, I feel like now may be the time to cash in. With 18 months left on his contract, it is likely we would get his true value if someone who wants him can afford it. As soon as contracts get to 12 months then I think clubs start to offer a bit less.

[Hibbyradge]

He'd be better off where he is and getting a move to England in the summer

Why is it better for him to wait till summer?

[Since452]

Why is it better for him to wait till summer?

More likely to get s move to England in the summer

[Hibbyradge]

More likely to get s move to England in the summer

I'm not sure I understand why that might be, but fair enough.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I strongly disagree.
McNulty will definitely be a loan if he comes to Hibs

Not so sure. Flo is entering that stage of his contract where we will look to cash in on the £100k investment/steal. Mc Nulty can be seen as a similar investment.

[Since452]

I'm not sure I understand why that might be, but fair enough.

More teams do business in the summer than January. I'd expect there to be more interest from England in the summer than there is now. Only heard of two Polish clubs showing interest now. That's assuming he wants a move to England of course

[I'm Spartacus]

Regarding Omeonga’s Instagram story.



I’m not wanting to be a creepy guy here but looking at the photo he is on a Ryanair plane flying over the Swiss alps. A Ryanair plane took off from Milan at 6am our time and landed at Edinburgh at 8.10 am..

According to Instagram he added the photo to his story approximately 5 hours ago, now assuming he took the photo and added it to his story while in the air it would not actually upload until the plane had landed and he received 4g signal.

Now if the plane landed at about 8am that is... 5 hours ago......

Therefore with my detective hat on I can 100% confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that Omeonga was on a plane from Milan to Edinburgh today.


EDIT: To add further you can see the reflection of the sun in the wingtip of the plane, the sun is rising on the opposite side of the plane to him, ergo the plane is flying north over the Swiss alps and not south.

Un. Believable.

Team's who have quotes in their dressing room to hammer home what it means to play for the club, this has to be a contender?!

Sensational work Saul! Totally mind blowing work.

[Hibiza]

Lyndon Dykes, looks a player.

[Greenworld]

Not so sure. Flo is entering that stage of his contract where we will look to cash in on the £100k investment/steal. Mc Nulty can be seen as a similar investment.Agree now is the time to sell if the price is right

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[Hibeesmad]

Vela to Shrewsbury according to Nixon on twitter

[ThatDayInMay]

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1219287181648416768?s=21

Josh Vela wanted by Shrewsbury.

[sean04]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

[B.H.F.C]

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1219287181648416768?s=21

Josh Vela wanted by Shrewsbury.

With Middleton gone, Maxwell going and Vela wanted elsewhere, that would be a pretty good start in terms of starting to correct the mistakes from the summer. It’ll take time, but it would be a start. Hope there is something in this.

[Steven79]

With Middleton gone, Maxwell going and Vela wanted elsewhere, that would be a pretty good start in terms of starting to correct the mistakes from the summer. It’ll take time, but it would be a start. Hope there is something in this.

Tom James can be the next to go...

[bingo70]

With Middleton gone, Maxwell going and Vela wanted elsewhere, that would be a pretty good start in terms of starting to correct the mistakes from the summer. It’ll take time, but it would be a start. Hope there is something in this.

Jackson apparently going to Bolton as well.

[Onceinawhile]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

Was he a winger for Rangers?

[Hibbyradge]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

If it's on a Hibs Facebook page, it's almost definitely not happening.

[Billy Whizz]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

As long as it’s not Romanov😄

[sean04]

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1219287181648416768?s=21

Josh Vela wanted by Shrewsbury.

Local reporter Lewis cox also saying its on

[JimBHibees]

Presumably depends if international clearance was got in time for today . Hopefully club rushed application for clearance thinking of possible replay .

JR seemed to be indicating his clearance hadn't come through in time so wouldn't be able to play in replay if that is the case.

[JimBHibees]

Was he a winger for Rangers?

Yep instantly forgettable would be surprised if true.

[SHODAN]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

That'll be Vladimir Weiss definitely not signing then.

[JimBHibees]

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1219287181648416768?s=21

Josh Vela wanted by Shrewsbury.

Wonder how quickly his injury will clear up if this is correct.

[sean04]

Wonder how quickly his injury will clear up if this is correct.

Permanent deal according to the Shropshire news. Unsettled in Scotland and wants to move nearer his home. Also described as an energetic midfielder

[we are hibs]

Vela wont be a miss. Frees up a wage and was on a long term contract.

[SHODAN]

Permanent deal according to the Shropshire news. Unsettled in Scotland and wants to move nearer his home. Also described as an energetic midfielder

All the best. Sadly didn't work out for him; arguably the most disappointing signing given initial excitement since Alan O'Brien.

[JimBHibees]

Permanent deal according to the Shropshire news. Unsettled in Scotland and wants to move nearer his home. Also described as an energetic midfielder

Sounds ideal. Unfortunately he came into club when already some unrest with coach and probably hasn't settled and if in relationship better for all to move nearer home.

[jeffers]

Wonder how quickly his injury will clear up if this is correct.

Was thinking the same thing.

[Hibeesmad]

Permanent deal according to the Shropshire news. Unsettled in Scotland and wants to move nearer his home. Also described as an energetic midfielder

Wonder if that 'injury' has suddenly disappeared.

[calumhibee1]

Lad on a hibs fb page suggesting we’re after Vladimir Weiss

Was about to say he’d be a cracking signing but he’s actually 30 now. 66 caps for Slovakia so obviously went on to be a good player after Rangers.

[Unseen work]

Really disappointed with how the signing of Vela has turned out.

Was expecting big things from him and he looked good to begin with, I think being part of a hugely imbalanced team that never really recovered from the 6-1 gubbing from Rangers never helped and all players struggled from that date.

I think a lot of players from England dont appreciate how big a club we are, how difficult the league is and how high the fans expectations are and before they know it the fans don’t rate them.

Hes certainly not as bad as some make out imo and I did think he had quite a bit of energy about him but just never used it correctly/never understood his role in a Heckingbottom team.

Think it’s best for all parties for him to move in and I wish him all the best.

He will be on a decent wage so hopefully it enables us to bring a real quality defensive midfielder in.

[Clarence]

Was about to say he’d be a cracking signing but he’s actually 30 now. 66 caps for Slovakia so obviously went on to be a good player after Rangers.

I remember him being pretty good. Sure he scored at Easter Road.

[Ronniekirk]

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1219287181648416768?s=21

Josh Vela wanted by Shrewsbury.

Let them have him


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[jgl07]

Was he a winger for Rangers?

Weiss played for Manchester City and went on loan to an number of teams including Rangers and Espanyol before moving on to Italy, Greece and Qatar.

[SteveHFC]

Vela has left the club confirmed.

[matty_f]

Vela away on a free transfer, confirmed by Hibs.

[Cod Boy]

Vela away on a free transfer, confirmed by Hibs.

Now watch him have a great performance against Liverpool on Sunday

[Ozyhibby]

Good news. Should allow at least another midfielder to come in.


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[Hibs90]

Nothing imminent according to JR at the press conference.

Is it just me that finds it absolutely baffling that we have known since the summer we needed a defensive midfielder, had plenty time to identify one and yet here we are 20th January and still don't have one?:confused:

[we are hibs]

Nothing imminent according to JR at the press conference.

Is it just me that finds it absolutely baffling that we have known since the summer we needed a defensive midfielder, had plenty time to identify one and yet here we are 20th January and still don't have one?:confused:

He said that the other day and we announced omeonga that night.

[H18 SFR]

Nothing imminent according to JR at the press conference.

Is it just me that finds it absolutely baffling that we have known since the summer we needed a defensive midfielder, had plenty time to identify one and yet here we are 20th January and still don't have one?:confused:

Maybe a lesson has been learned with the poor Vela signing and they want to ensure they get the right man this time.

[HFC93]

Nothing imminent according to JR at the press conference.

Is it just me that finds it absolutely baffling that we have known since the summer we needed a defensive midfielder, had plenty time to identify one and yet here we are 20th January and still don't have one?:confused:

Did JR no say that on Friday before we signed Omeonga?

[Smartie]

There’s a wee pang of regret in me that Vela didn’t get an opportunity to redeem himself with us, but now a line has been drawn under his time with us it is hard to think anything other than it being the best move for all parties.

It will be interesting if he goes on to do well.

[Hibeesmad]

Vela passed the medical no problem then.

[Hibs90]

He said that the other day and we announced omeonga that night.

True.

[matty_f]

Maybe a lesson has been learned with the poor Vela signing and they want to ensure they get the right man this time.

I don't think the recruitment team (including the previous manager) can really be blamed for Vela.

He's a good player, the issues were off-field with him, neither he nor his partner settled in Edinburgh and it had a big impact on him.

He'd never played this far from home regularly, neither he nor the club could have predicted that things would hit him as hard as they did.

[PaulSmith]

I don't think the recruitment team (including the previous manager) can really be blamed for Vela.

He's a good player, the issues were off-field with him, neither he nor his partner settled in Edinburgh and it had a big impact on him.

He'd never played this far from home regularly, neither he nor the club could have predicted that things would hit him as hard as they did.

Very hard to feel sorry for someone earning £5k per week and if he’d been flying on the pitch then the off field stuff would’ve been less of a problem.

The problem was actually that he wasn’t a particularly good player.

[Steven79]

Very hard to feel sorry for someone earning £5k per week and if he’d been flying on the pitch then the off field stuff would’ve been less of a problem.

The problem was actually that he wasn’t a particularly good player.The fact that he's ended up at Shrewsbury gives an indication of how low his stock has fallen.

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[HoboHarry]

Very hard to feel sorry for someone earning £5k per week and if he’d been flying on the pitch then the off field stuff would’ve been less of a problem.

The problem was actually that he wasn’t a particularly good player.
Is your opinion based on what he did with Hibs or had you seen him play before he joined us?

[J-C]

I don't think the recruitment team (including the previous manager) can really be blamed for Vela.

He's a good player, the issues were off-field with him, neither he nor his partner settled in Edinburgh and it had a big impact on him.

He'd never played this far from home regularly, neither he nor the club could have predicted that things would hit him as hard as they did.

He had these issues at Bolton too, hence why the recruitment team flagged him as not one to sign but Heckingbottom insisted. I seem to remember someone posted a link to Bolton fans site, spoke about his off field problems.

[Unseen work]

Very hard to feel sorry for someone earning £5k per week and if he’d been flying on the pitch then the off field stuff would’ve been less of a problem.

The problem was actually that he wasn’t a particularly good player.


No way was he ok 5k a week?

[matty_f]

Very hard to feel sorry for someone earning £5k per week and if he’d been flying on the pitch then the off field stuff would’ve been less of a problem.

The problem was actually that he wasn’t a particularly good player.

Doesn't really matter how much someone earns in their job, that's not his fault - I can still empathise with a person struggling to settle.

I've found it myself, moving jobs from a place where I'd spent my whole career, knew everything and everyone to go to somewhere where I started new - it took me the best part of a year, at least, of hating it and regretting it before I settled and started to show what I could do.

[PaulSmith]

Is your opinion based on what he did with Hibs or had you seen him play before he joined us?

Its based purely on watching him contribute absolutely zero in any match that I watched him play for Hibs.

[J-C]

No way was he ok 5k a week?

You think he was coming up here for sweeties, even League 1 teams pay good money.

[HoboHarry]

Its based purely on watching him contribute absolutely zero in any match that I watched him play for Hibs.
Then it didn't work for him or us at Hibs, doesn't mean he won't do well well for any other club. It's hardly a new thing.

[Jones28]

Yep instantly forgettable would be surprised if true.

He is the fastest thing on 2 legs I’ve ever seen. That was about 10 years ago now right enough.

[hibee-boys]

I don't think the recruitment team (including the previous manager) can really be blamed for Vela.

He's a good player, the issues were off-field with him, neither he nor his partner settled in Edinburgh and it had a big impact on him.

He'd never played this far from home regularly, neither he nor the club could have predicted that things would hit him as hard as they did.

Plenty people in life have to deal with issues out of work but are able to apply themself at work. He did not look interested from the minute he stepped on the pitch. Off the field issues or not, glad he's gone.

[Souter96Mac]

He is the fastest thing on 2 legs I’ve ever seen. That was about 10 years ago now right enough.

Surprised he's only 30. Seems to have been about for ages. If he's like what I remember, I'd take him.

[HoboHarry]

Plenty people in life have to deal with issues out of work but are able to apply themself at work. He did not look interested from the minute he stepped on the pitch. Off the field issues or not, glad he's gone.
I may of course be wrong but I'm guessing that you've never been homesick. Long time ago for me but it's miserable at the time and I get it completely.

[PaulSmith]

Then it didn't work for him or us at Hibs, doesn't mean he won't do well well for any other club. It's hardly a new thing.

I really don’t care what he does now but it will tell you more about the standard of League 1 if he does well there.

It’s admirable your defence of him but for me his ability to contribute when being paid for Hibs is all that I care about.

[Unseen work]

You think he was coming up here for sweetie, even League 1 teams pay good money.

No, I just don’t believe we were paying him 5k a week.

[Brightside]

He had these issues at Bolton too, hence why the recruitment team flagged him as not one to sign but Heckingbottom insisted. I seem to remember someone posted a link to Bolton fans site, spoke about his off field problems.

Hibs had Vela on the list before Hecky joined. Someone keeps feeding you duff info on this one JC. :wink:

[Lago]

Doesn't really matter how much someone earns in their job, that's not his fault - I can still empathise with a person struggling to settle.

I've found it myself, moving jobs from a place where I'd spent my whole career, knew everything and everyone to go to somewhere where I started new - it took me the best part of a year, at least, of hating it and regretting it before I settled and started to show what I could do.

Fully agree, I moved from Edinburgh to Stevenage & like you it took time to settle. I have sympathy for Vela in that respect.

[SMAXXA]

Think it’s poor the amount of folk slaughtering him on social media. He isn’t as bad as some would have you think, he’s moved on let it go and be decent about it no go his new clubs SM and slaughter him, no class imo

[flash]

Think it’s poor the amount of folk slaughtering him on social media. He isn’t as bad as some would have you think, he’s moved on let it go and be decent about it no go his new clubs SM and slaughter him, no class imo

I despise a large amount of Hibs fans on social media. Thankfully we don't have that sort of stuff on here.

[Hibeesmad]

I despise a large amount of Hibs fans on social media. Thankfully we don't have that sort of stuff on here.

I dont go on Facebook but the amount of fannies on twitter is unbearable, many are on mute.

[Brightside]

I despise a large amount of Hibs fans on social media. Thankfully we don't have that sort of stuff on here.

:greengrin:greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

Think it’s poor the amount of folk slaughtering him on social media. He isn’t as bad as some would have you think, he’s moved on let it go and be decent about it no go his new clubs SM and slaughter him, no class imo

100%

[sleeping giant]

I despise a large amount of Hibs fans on social media. Thankfully we don't have that sort of stuff on here.

The Hibs facebook pages are chronic.
Few weirdos on twitter too.

[Gmack7]

I woder if Shrewsbury are still interested in Docherty after signing Vela. I'd take him at ER

[flash]

:greengrin:greengrin

Trust me this place is heaven compared to Hibs Facebook and Twitter.

[matty_f]

Think it’s poor the amount of folk slaughtering him on social media. He isn’t as bad as some would have you think, he’s moved on let it go and be decent about it no go his new clubs SM and slaughter him, no class imo

Yeah, a bit of good grace wouldn't go amiss at times.

[HoboHarry]

Think it’s poor the amount of folk slaughtering him on social media. He isn’t as bad as some would have you think, he’s moved on let it go and be decent about it no go his new clubs SM and slaughter him, no class imo
:agree:

[matty_f]

Plenty people in life have to deal with issues out of work but are able to apply themself at work. He did not look interested from the minute he stepped on the pitch. Off the field issues or not, glad he's gone.

Just because plenty of people deal with issues doesn't mean that an individual has to cope regardless.

[jax67]

Really disappointed with how the signing of Vela has turned out.

Was expecting big things from him and he looked good to begin with, I think being part of a hugely imbalanced team that never really recovered from the 6-1 gubbing from Rangers never helped and all players struggled from that date.

I think a lot of players from England dont appreciate how big a club we are, how difficult the league is and how high the fans expectations are and before they know it the fans don’t rate them.

Hes certainly not as bad as some make out imo and I did think he had quite a bit of energy about him but just never used it correctly/never understood his role in a Heckingbottom team.

Think it’s best for all parties for him to move in and I wish him all the best.

He will be on a decent wage so hopefully it enables us to bring a real quality defensive midfielder in.

This. 👍

[Smartie]

Yeah, a bit of good grace wouldn't go amiss at times.

And a bit of perspective.

A young guy joined our club, moved a decent distance away from home for the first time, didn’t settle personally and the football didn’t really work out for him either. All parties acknowledged this, all parties agreed to end it at the earliest opportunity, all parties win. This is not a big deal.

I wonder what the social media generation would make of a hostile takeover bid from a Hearts chairman?

There’s a time to get your knickers in a twist and there’s a time to hurl all notions of “Hibs class” out the window - this is not one of them.

The guy will be going to be mixing with fellow pros and will struggle to find good things to say about us. That is not a good thing. It’s a shame a wee bit of dignity seems too much to ask.

[Vault Boy]

I woder if Shrewsbury are still interested in Docherty after signing Vela. I'd take him at ER

I think I read that Charlton are favourites to sign him

[SMAXXA]

And a bit of perspective.

A young guy joined our club, moved a decent distance away from home for the first time, didn’t settle personally and the football didn’t really work out for him either. All parties acknowledged this, all parties agreed to end it at the earliest opportunity, all parties win. This is not a big deal.

I wonder what the social media generation would make of a hostile takeover bid from a Hearts chairman?

There’s a time to get your knickers in a twist and there’s a time to hurl all notions of “Hibs class” out the window - this is not one of them.

The guy will be going to be mixing with fellow pros and will struggle to find good things to say about us. That is not a good thing. It’s a shame a wee bit of dignity seems too much to ask.

You only need to speak to Joe Newall and his mrs to see the impact they were both very aware of the abuse he was taking when he first came to the club.

Then look at Omeonga on the ther side commenting about how having the fans behind him makes him more determined to do well

[at last 61]

Well said smartie some people are home birds some not at least we can now get a player in who can do a job for us

[PaulSmith]

And a bit of perspective.

A young guy joined our club, moved a decent distance away from home for the first time, didn’t settle personally and the football didn’t really work out for him either. All parties acknowledged this, all parties agreed to end it at the earliest opportunity, all parties win. This is not a big deal.

I wonder what the social media generation would make of a hostile takeover bid from a Hearts chairman?

There’s a time to get your knickers in a twist and there’s a time to hurl all notions of “Hibs class” out the window - this is not one of them.

The guy will be going to be mixing with fellow pros and will struggle to find good things to say about us. That is not a good thing. It’s a shame a wee bit of dignity seems too much to ask.

I was with you until you posted that other pros will take into account what’s said on FB, Hibs net or twitter before signing for Hibs!

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with passing comment that Vela was a disaster of a signing and showed nothing. There’s nothing undignified about that and I’ve not read many disparaging remarks about him as a person?

[Hibeesmad]

I think I read that Charlton are favourites to sign him

Sunderland also shown interest.

[AlbertK86]

I woder if Shrewsbury are still interested in Docherty after signing Vela. I'd take him at ER

Read somewhere in last hour that he has .... Seemingly turned down Shrewsbury to join Sunderland on loan.

No idea if true


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[Brummie_Hibs]

Family links? Aye his whole family live here as does his missus family. 😂

Marc and his wife have bought a house in the Edinburgh area, and I'm led to believe the wife doesn't plan to relocate once settled there.

[Speedway]

So that’s Middleton replaced by Boyle’s comeback and allows us to have three RBs in the budget. Bogdan’s wage replaces Maxwell loan wage and Omeonga’s wage replaces Vela’s.

Who’s next out of the door, Slivka?

[04Sauzee]

So that’s Middleton replaced by Boyle’s comeback and allows us to have three RBs in the budget. Bogdan’s wage replaces Maxwell loan wage and Omeonga’s wage replaces Vela’s.

Who’s next out of the door, Slivka?
Horgan isn't getting much game time just now?

[Unseen work]

Horgan isn't getting much game time just now?

Letting Horgan go would me a mistake imo, he’s inconsistent but can be a real threat at times especially coming on as a sub.

Only him and Boyle are recognised wingers so a good option to have

[B.H.F.C]

So that’s Middleton replaced by Boyle’s comeback and allows us to have three RBs in the budget. Bogdan’s wage replaces Maxwell loan wage and Omeonga’s wage replaces Vela’s.

Who’s next out of the door, Slivka?

Slivka isn’t the worst shout. In to the last few months of his deal and not entirely sure he’ll be offered a new one. Whittaker playing in front of him in the middle of the park yesterday doesn’t say much for his prospects IMO.

[04Sauzee]

Letting Horgan go would me a mistake imo, he’s inconsistent but can be a real threat at times especially coming on as a sub.

Only him and Boyle are recognised wingers so a good option to have

Not disagreeing, he's a great player to have in an attacking sense. Ross might want to move him on if he isn't using him? I'm not sure he will move on but is certainly an option if he's looking to free up some cash.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Hearts have signed that boy from Turkey but strangely only for six months. For the fuss they made over him you would have thought longer

[CMurdoch]

Read somewhere in last hour that he has .... Seemingly turned down Shrewsbury to join Sunderland on loan.

No idea if true


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Player apparently kb'd Shrewsbury
Sunderland not willing to pay enough for Rangers liking.
Charlton are the latest option.

Looks like Rangers are trying to get money from any source in to limp on to the end of the season.

[MrRobot]

He had these issues at Bolton too, hence why the recruitment team flagged him as not one to sign but Heckingbottom insisted. I seem to remember someone posted a link to Bolton fans site, spoke about his off field problems.

what were the issues off the field?

[04Sauzee]

Hearts have signed that boy from Turkey but strangely only for six months. For the fuss they made over him you would have thought longer

If he's good he will be looking for a move to a bigger club. If he's crap he will be like their other signings

[Scott Allan Key]

Surely we have to be in for Efe after yesterday..

Still without a club as far as i'm aware. Deal to the end of the season should be a no brainer.CB who can partner up and also play right of back 3 or even RB. Surely?

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[AlbertK86]

Player apparently kb'd Shrewsbury
Sunderland not willing to pay enough for Rangers liking.
Charlton are the latest option.

Looks like Rangers are trying to get money from any source in to limp on to the end of the season.

Would love to see these hubris ***** go bust again [emoji16]


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[Centre Hawf]

Omeonga for Vela is a good few days worth of business. If we can do the same with Efe for Jackson I'll be delighted. Same with someone for Slivka potentially.

If Naismith isn't out for long then I'd still consider getting rid of James and going with Naismith and Gray for the rest of the season. Otherwise we may need to keep him and cancel the Naismith loan.

Newell or Horgan out would also be my choice. Preferably Newell.

If McNulty loan rumours are true, as much as I wasn't entirely sold on him last time round, I'd be fine with it if it means Shaw has a loan move lined up for somewhere in the Premiership like St Mirren or Hamilton. Although I fear that it's to prepare ourselves for Flo leaving to be honest.

[The 90+2]

Hearts have signed that boy from Turkey but strangely only for six months. For the fuss they made over him you would have thought longer

Shows the commitment level of the player and the manager trying to convince him to sign.

[SMAXXA]

Omeonga for Vela is a good few days worth of business. If we can do the same with Efe for Jackson I'll be delighted. Same with someone for Slivka potentially.

If Naismith isn't out for long then I'd still consider getting rid of James and going with Naismith and Gray for the rest of the season. Otherwise we may need to keep him and cancel the Naismith loan.

Newell or Horgan out would also be my choice. Preferably Newell.

If McNulty loan rumours are true, as much as I wasn't entirely sold on him last time round, I'd be fine with it if it means Shaw has a loan move lined up for somewhere in the Premiership like St Mirren or Hamilton. Although I fear that it's to prepare ourselves for Flo leaving to be honest.

Many players do you think we can lose squad won’t be big enough losing those

[Hibbyradge]

Shows the commitment level of the player and the manager trying to convince him to sign.

What does Omeonga signing on loan show?

[Scooter]

What does Omeonga signing on loan show?

It's slightly different, no? Steph is a 6 months loan contracted to his club until 2022. The hearts boy has been freed by his club 6months early and only signed for hearts for 6months.

I've no idea how that angry face got there???

[J-C]

Hibs had Vela on the list before Hecky joined. Someone keeps feeding you duff info on this one JC. :wink:

:aok: Was told he was one that was flagged as not worth the money being spent, things like this happens all the time in football, some just don't work out.