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madhatter
26-01-2020, 06:11 PM
Cumdog is coming home
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Please no...
SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 06:12 PM
Please no...
Agree wouldn’t want him
Since452
26-01-2020, 06:12 PM
Please no...
X2
SHODAN
26-01-2020, 06:12 PM
Cumdog is coming home
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No, he isn't.
AlbertK86
26-01-2020, 06:21 PM
Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man
Agree
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AlbertK86
26-01-2020, 06:24 PM
Please no...
He was offered to Hibs in summer and we weren’t interested
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Walter
26-01-2020, 06:26 PM
JC is exactly the type of bellend our team needs
CapitalGreen
26-01-2020, 06:27 PM
Was a genuine question, but oh well not to worry. 👍😕
I read it as genuine questions too, seems to be a lot of angry beavers online today.
Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 06:32 PM
Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man
As are Stevenson and Hanlon who contributed to united first goal
stantonsboots
26-01-2020, 06:40 PM
This. They had more possession but most of it was either in their own half or in non dangerous positions. Definitely didn’t dominate the game.personally I thought it was very even? right down to both teams hitting the woodwork once each ! GGTTH
Edinburgh Green
26-01-2020, 06:42 PM
That is an unfair judgement....he barely put a foot wrong in the second half. Still expect him to move on tbh. People forget he has probably been told to find another club, not played for months. But showed his professionalism when he turned his first half poor show around and was as good as anyone in our side second half.
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Like I say, never watched first half so can’t comment on how he played but 2nd half he backed off the winger almost every time until he was inside our box, very poor.
madhatter
26-01-2020, 06:53 PM
Like I say, never watched first half so can’t comment on how he played but 2nd half he backed off the winger almost every time until he was inside our box, very poor.
He did that because he got destroyed first half, he is too easily passed - I don't think RB is his position in fairness to him. Looks very awkward there.
hibee-boys
26-01-2020, 06:55 PM
McGinn in and James out would be good business.
Yip. Makes you wonder who on earth sanctioned the signing of James. We're doing everything we can NOT to play him.....even a half fit David Gray was picked ahead of him. If he was any further down the pecking order I might have a shout in getting called up!
Wilson
26-01-2020, 06:57 PM
He was offered to Hibs in summer and we weren’t interested
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Perhaps we should have been.
tamig
26-01-2020, 07:14 PM
So are you not going to have an opinion on any possible signings?
Look at the comments for examples of the laziness -
“Can’t get a game for St Mirren”
“Not a regular starter”
Disrespectful -
“Maybe good enough for St Mirren but not for us”
“Fed up of Hibs being a retirement home”
Absolute nonsense. I already gave my opinion. Jack Ross clearly knows him well and if he thinks he’s good enough for us then that will do for me.
Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 07:16 PM
He did that because he got destroyed first half, he is too easily passed - I don't think RB is his position in fairness to him. Looks very awkward there.
He backed off him big time in first half as well.
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greenpaper55
26-01-2020, 07:17 PM
Hibs make an approach saints https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51258436?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
LancsHibs
26-01-2020, 07:17 PM
Well I would take Cummings back in a flash, would also welcome MCGinn as a stop gap until the end of the season.
GGTTH07
26-01-2020, 07:20 PM
Hibs make an approach saints https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51258436?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 07:20 PM
Look at the comments for examples of the laziness -
“Can’t get a game for St Mirren”
“Not a regular starter”
Disrespectful -
“Maybe good enough for St Mirren but not for us”
“Fed up of Hibs being a retirement home”
Absolute nonsense. I already gave my opinion. Jack Ross clearly knows him well and if he thinks he’s good enough for us then that will do for me.
Never quite get the ‘Jack Ross (or whoever is manager at the time) thinks he’s good enough so that’ll do for me’ type comments.
If we just all agreed that Jack Ross (or whoever is manager at the time) knows best then it would all be pretty boring and there wouldn’t be anything to discuss. Managers are wrong pretty frequently, we only need to look back a few months for evidence of that.
Wilson
26-01-2020, 07:24 PM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
Hardly embarrassing.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 07:24 PM
Look at the comments for examples of the laziness -
“Can’t get a game for St Mirren”
“Not a regular starter”
Disrespectful -
“Maybe good enough for St Mirren but not for us”
“Fed up of Hibs being a retirement home”
Absolute nonsense. I already gave my opinion. Jack Ross clearly knows him well and if he thinks he’s good enough for us then that will do for me.
So you won’t have an opinion on any potential signings? You’ll just always trust Ross?
That’s fine, just seems a bit of a pointless stance on a message board that’s meant to discuss potential transfers.
madhatter
26-01-2020, 07:25 PM
Look at the comments for examples of the laziness -
“Can’t get a game for St Mirren”
“Not a regular starter”
Disrespectful -
“Maybe good enough for St Mirren but not for us”
“Fed up of Hibs being a retirement home”
Absolute nonsense. I already gave my opinion. Jack Ross clearly knows him well and if he thinks he’s good enough for us then that will do for me.
Disrespectful? If the retirement home one is attributed to my comment then I think respectfully you’ll find that Hibs have 3 senior players knowingly unable to play a full season of games (probably not even half). The retirement home wasn’t applied to McGinn interest, it was the cold hard facts on why we’ve had to recruit so many RBs this season. Just to clarify the retirement home theme - Gray and Whittaker are able to play RB, neither are reliable fit week to week and one has almost entirely lost his legs.
Heckingbottom knew quite a few players well...
The Spaceman
26-01-2020, 07:26 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
madhatter
26-01-2020, 07:27 PM
He backed off him big time in first half as well.
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He tried to tackle him a few times in the 1st half and got ripped apart, think that’s when he started to stand off big time.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 07:29 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
No, there’s quite a few posters who agree with you.
There’s just some that don’t.
flash
26-01-2020, 07:30 PM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
It is exactly the kind of signing we haven't made often enough. We should be taking the best players from the smaller clubs in the division regularly instead of all these lower division players from England.
Wilson
26-01-2020, 07:30 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
We'd be signing him from a fellow premiership club. One that has conceded less goals this season than ourselves. It seems to be the default position to be underwhelmed on here. However, I think he'd be a solid addition.
Vault Boy
26-01-2020, 07:31 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
Exactly. Some of the comments are so melodramatic.
In a position we've struggled to find apt replacements for, a proven Scottish Premiership right back in his prime, who's known for his consistency is exactly what we should be looking for.
He'd be a good signing IMO. I wanted us to sign him when he ended up at Dundee.
makaveli1875
26-01-2020, 07:31 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
No, I'd be happy to sign him. Might be an idea to see if he signs and let him play a game for us before declaring him utterly pish and not good enough.
craigiehibs
26-01-2020, 07:31 PM
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
such sensible comment will never catch on here mate. dont u know we should be siging superstars, not solid professionals!
DetroitHibs
26-01-2020, 07:33 PM
A club with ambitions of becoming a top four team need to be signing better quality than McGinn from St Mirren.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 07:34 PM
Exactly. Some of the comments are so melodramatic.
In a position we've struggled to find apt replacements for, a proven Scottish Premiership right back in his prime, who's known for his consistency is exactly what we should be looking for.
He'd be a good signing IMO. I wanted us to sign him when he ended up at Dundee.
How have we struggled to fill this position?
David Gray has been a superb right back for us and for the most part Naismith has been decent this season?
Right back hasn’t been a problem position for us?
Am I one of the few who would be quite happy with Paul McGinn? :confused: has always looked solid whenever I have seen him play. Has steel to him.
I’ll wait and see what he does in a Hibs shirt before I make a judgement on him.
Sometimes we need someone who knows the league and while not being an exciting or flair player can get stuck in, do the basics well and get the ball to the guys like Boyle and Allan who can create stuff for us.
John McGinn wasn’t a hugely gifted player but what he lacked in skill compared to someone like Allan he more than made up for in pure energy and strength and that goes a long way in this league. It’s also something sorely missing from our squad at the moment.
Captain Trips
26-01-2020, 07:35 PM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
Is it? Although we have a few RBs on the books they are struggling with form or injury. Signing a player who has been playing week in week out and can come straight in makes sense.
For me this is an opoertunist signing rather than part of a master plan. I'm happy with it and see no reason this would affect our plans rest of window.
tamig
26-01-2020, 07:39 PM
So you won’t have an opinion on any potential signings? You’ll just always trust Ross?
That’s fine, just seems a bit of a pointless stance on a message board that’s meant to discuss potential transfers.
I’ll give an opinion on players I’m familiar with. Although I’ve seen McGinn in the flesh a few times, I don’t pretend to have an in-depth knowledge of his attributes in the same way a few of the experts on here seem to possess. In these cases I’ll put my trust in Ross.
SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 07:41 PM
A club with ambitions of becoming a top four team need to be signing better quality than McGinn from St Mirren.
Fans supporting a club in the position we were in and are in this season should understand a new manager would want players he knows and trusts and this window is not easy. Was his brother classed as better quality at the time, let’s see it play out plenty time for hibs fans to slaughter the boy when he’s actually signed.
Vault Boy
26-01-2020, 07:42 PM
How have we struggled to fill this position?
David Gray has been a superb right back for us and for the most part Naismith has been decent this season?
Right back hasn’t been a problem position for us?
We've struggled to find a consistent replacement for Gray, I was sure that was fairly obvious.
Off the top of my head we've had Eardley, Spector, James, Ambrose, Whittaker, Naismith and Boyle all play there at various times during Gray's injured spells. We've not been able to recruit a consistent successor to SDG, who we signed over 5 years ago and has been suffering with injuries for the majority of that time now.
I agree that Naismith has been good for us, I'd be glad if we sign him permanently after he's back to fitness, but that's the exception, not the rule, and whilst he's out, McGinn could prove to be a clever acquisition.
mcfly
26-01-2020, 07:43 PM
If jack Ross feels we need to sign Paul Mcginn then so be it - we have to trust the manager.
However right back is not our main area of concern - we need a central midfielder and a striker.
Someone to generate excitement amongst the fans and show ambition
we are hibs
26-01-2020, 07:43 PM
Im neither here or there with McGinn. Maybe a solid addition but i get the shouts of uninspiring. But If hes a stop gap until the summer i have no problem with that.
Im more concerned with getting a midfielder and forward in. Those 2 areas need strengthened more so imo.
Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 07:44 PM
If jack Ross feels we need to sign Paul Mcginn then so be it - we have to trust the manager.
However right back is not our main area of concern - we need a central midfielder and a striker.
Someone to generate excitement amongst the fans and show ambition
If Boyce was available at £160,000 as reported then we must have something better lined up. Is McNulty worth paying more than that?
tamig
26-01-2020, 07:44 PM
Disrespectful? If the retirement home one is attributed to my comment then I think respectfully you’ll find that Hibs have 3 senior players knowingly unable to play a full season of games (probably not even half). The retirement home wasn’t applied to McGinn interest, it was the cold hard facts on why we’ve had to recruit so many RBs this season. Just to clarify the retirement home theme - Gray and Whittaker are able to play RB, neither are reliable fit week to week and one has almost entirely lost his legs.
Heckingbottom knew quite a few players well...
Some of the posters couldn’t even be bothered to get McGinn’s age right. I’ll give opinions on players I know. I’d rather not comment on what a player might bring to us if I don’t know much about him. Most of PHs signings seem to have turned it around imo. His issue was he just didn’t know how to play them.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 07:48 PM
We've struggled to find a consistent replacement for Gray, I was sure that was fairly obvious.
Off the top of my head we've had Eardley, Spector, James, Ambrose, Whittaker, Naismith and Boyle all play there at various times during Gray's inured spells. We've not been able to recruit a consistent successor to SDG, who we signed over 5 years ago and has been suffering with injuries for the majority of that time now.
I agree that Naismith has been good for us, I'd be glad if we sign him permanently after he's back to fitness, but that's the exception, not the rule, and whilst he's out, McGinn could prove to be a clever acquisition.
Finding a long term replacement for Gray is fine but surely we don’t expect Mcginn to be that? I’m assuming he’s a stop gap until Naismith is fit again next season?
To me Naismith has to be signed again for next season and he’s the long term replacement for that position. Signing a stop gap player for a few months when we already have Whittaker, Gray and James who can play it for what, 13 games or so is more than adequate?
Mcginn will probably be a steady eadie type for a few months, imo though that’s completely pointless and a waste of a wage.
flash
26-01-2020, 07:51 PM
Finding a long term replacement for Gray is fine but surely we don’t expect Mcginn to be that? I’m assuming he’s a stop gap until Naismith is fit again next season?
To me Naismith has to be signed again for next season and he’s the long term replacement for that position. Signing a stop gap player for a few months when we already have Whittaker, Gray and James who can play it for what, 13 games or so is more than adequate?
Mcginn will probably be a steady eadie type for a few months, imo though that’s completely pointless and a waste of a wage.
Yet a quick look at the reaction to this happening shows several St Mirren fans stating he is a better player than Naismith.
Speedway
26-01-2020, 07:54 PM
If Boyce was available at £160,000 as reported then we must have something better lined up. Is McNulty worth paying more than that?
What makes you think that we have something better lined up?
bingo70
26-01-2020, 07:54 PM
Yet a quick look at the reaction to this happening shows several St Mirren fans stating he is a better player than Naismith.
At 29 is he a long term replacement for the right back position? Mcginns age and career to date suggests he probably won’t be.
Naismith is at an age where he could be a long term solution for that position.
makaveli1875
26-01-2020, 07:54 PM
Yet a quick look at the reaction to this happening shows several St Mirren fans stating he is a better player than Naismith.
What do they know they only watched them both week in week out
CapitalGreen
26-01-2020, 07:54 PM
Certain posters in September: “these new signings from England are murder, why don’t we sign players who understand the Scottish game.”
Certain posters now: “signing a right back from another Premiership club isn’t exciting enough for me”
flash
26-01-2020, 07:55 PM
At 29 is he a long term replacement for the right back position? Mcginns age and career to date suggests he probably won’t be.
Naismith is at an age where he could be a long term solution for that position.
My point is that if McGinn is a better player we won't be signing Naismith.
500miles
26-01-2020, 07:56 PM
At 29 is he a long term replacement for the right back position? Mcginns age and career to date suggests he probably won’t be.
Naismith is at an age where he could be a long term solution for that position.
At 29 he could play another 3 full seasons without lagging if he's a reasonable athlete. That's long term enough.
sorryfolks
26-01-2020, 07:58 PM
My guess would be that Paul McGinn is the defensive reinforcement that we've been forced to bring in due to injuries to Porteous and Naismith. I imagine it is cheap and reasonably risk free given that he's known to the manager and has been a mainstay in the league for a number of years. Can see us bringing in another 2 on top of this as Ross alluded to in his interview yesterday - hopefully a defensive midfielder and a striker.
Beefster
26-01-2020, 07:59 PM
“We should definitely sign that guy that has spent the last two seasons in League One and the Championship but we definitely shouldn’t sign that guy that has built a solid but unspectacular reputation by playing in the Premiership for most of the last six years”.
Logical.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 08:00 PM
At 29 he could play another 3 full seasons without lagging if he's a reasonable athlete. That's long term enough.
At 29 I personally think if he was at the level we want to be at he’d have had a bigger move by now.
It sounds like im really salting the guy but I’m not meaning to, I think he’s probably an alright player, I just think he’s a pointless signing and a wage that could be better spent elsewhere.
flash
26-01-2020, 08:03 PM
At 29 I personally think if he was at the level we want to be at he’d have had a bigger move by now.
It sounds like im really salting the guy but I’m not meaning to, I think he’s probably an alright player, I just think he’s a pointless signing and a wage that could be better spent elsewhere.
I shouldn't come back again but how is it pointless if SDG is struggling and Naismith won't play again this season?
mcfly
26-01-2020, 08:03 PM
If Boyce was available at £160,000 as reported then we must have something better lined up. Is McNulty worth paying more than that?
Got to hope the club surprise us all or these pages will not be pleasant reading 🤞🤞
Alex Trager
26-01-2020, 08:04 PM
If Boyce was available at £160,000 as reported then we must have something better lined up. Is McNulty worth paying more than that?
Nisbett would be my choice
jacomo
26-01-2020, 08:05 PM
A club with ambitions of becoming a top four team need to be signing better quality than McGinn from St Mirren.
What we need is a better balanced squad.
Vela will be rated more highly as a midfielder but a total flop for us. We need a water carrier, as Cantona would say.
Iggy Pope
26-01-2020, 08:06 PM
What we need is a better balanced squad.
Vela will be rated more highly as a midfielder but a total flop for us. We need a water carrier, as Cantona would say.
Cantona would be nice if we can’t get the water carrying gadgie.
Gmack7
26-01-2020, 08:07 PM
My point is that if McGinn is a better player we won't be signing Naismith.
Bang on, I'm sure well try to move James on aswell. McGinn and Gray completing for RB next season
B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 08:07 PM
I shouldn't come back again but how is it pointless if SDG is struggling and Naismith won't play again this season?
We still have James and Whittaker. I don’t think either are great but I don’t think the McGinn is either.
I think a long term solution at right back is really important but that’s one for the summer. I don’t see the point in signing someone as a stop gap when we have players who can be a stop gap until then.
NorthNorfolkHFC
26-01-2020, 08:07 PM
Could we do as much as Nisbet (cheap), McNulty (expensive), McGinn (cheap) and a midfielder?
I’d be happy with that. I suspect Kamberi may leave if all that were to happen.
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Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 08:11 PM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
Ridiculous post.
Souter96Mac
26-01-2020, 08:13 PM
Would take McGinn. Will be a solid enough option at RB. If we can get Nesbitt along with him, and an option at DM. If I were being greedy I'd be looking to get another winger in.
Hibby Kay-Yay
26-01-2020, 08:16 PM
McGinn is like having Lewis at RB, both solid pros in their respective positions. I’d rather have those two at the back and spend more on attacking flair players. We still need to have a decent defence, attacking full backs are expensive and are more attacking than defensive.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 08:17 PM
We still have James and Whittaker. I don’t think either are great but I don’t think the McGinn is either.
I think a long term solution at right back is really important but that’s one for the summer. I don’t see the point in signing someone as a stop gap when we have players who can be a stop gap until then.
Exactly.
If it’s a long term replacement for Gray we’re after then I think we should be looking longer term than Paul Mcginn.
If it’s a short term replacement we’re after then I don’t think that’s needed. We have a few players already who can tide us over until the summer.
tamig
26-01-2020, 08:18 PM
If Boyce was available at £160,000 as reported then we must have something better lined up. Is McNulty worth paying more than that?
Even if that was the fee its not just 160k though is it? What about the ridiculous wage they are paying him?
bingo70
26-01-2020, 08:21 PM
Even if that was the fee its not just 160k though is it? What about the ridiculous wage they are paying him?
Does he cost as much as having 4 first team right backs?
Quality or quantity is the question here I suppose.
BILLYHIBS
26-01-2020, 08:22 PM
Sir David Peter Gray signed from Burton Albion at age 25 and that turned out all right
A tried and tested reliable pro he was Alan Stubbs first signing
You cannae build a football team without solid foundations
MacGruber
26-01-2020, 08:23 PM
Could we do as much as Nisbet (cheap), McNulty (expensive), McGinn (cheap) and a midfielder?
I’d be happy with that. I suspect Kamberi may leave if all that were to happen.
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We are in need of a striker now, if Kamberi also leaves we'll need 2.
Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 08:27 PM
Exactly.
If it’s a long term replacement for Gray we’re after then I think we should be looking longer term than Paul Mcginn.
If it’s a short term replacement we’re after then I don’t think that’s needed. We have a few players already who can tide us over until the summer.
We’re not after a long term solution to Gray. He’s had a load of injuries. I’m hoping the signing of McGinn allows us to play him when needed, and we have a more than adequate replacement when he’s not available
Steven79
26-01-2020, 08:29 PM
We’re not after a long term solution to Gray. He’s had a load of injuries. I’m hoping the signing of McGinn allows us to play him when needed, and we have a more than adequate replacement when he’s not availableAnd he can cover other positions.
It's a good signing and should be completed early next week.
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Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 08:31 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
Alex Trager
26-01-2020, 08:40 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
Well we’ll see but I am hopeful that we being him in. Sometimes you have to pay to get the quality in.
We could do a similar deal to the SJM deal.
Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 08:42 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
The pars fans are absolutely mental if they think that’s what they’ll get for him. 300k is probably pushing it too.
Radium
26-01-2020, 08:42 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
If we are going for him teams will be aware of the potential of a sell-on clause particularly after McGinn. That could impact the initial fee
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Since452
26-01-2020, 08:42 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
Similar scoring record to Shankland think that's their point
04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 08:44 PM
Similar scoring record to Shankland think that's their point
I'd love to get Nisbet in but now fear we will be priced out of a move. Hope not becuase he does have a very good scoring record.
tonyrougier123
26-01-2020, 08:48 PM
Ridiculous post.
I canny grasp why folk see it that way,it's clear mcginn would be a solid signing who would be available for selection and never shy away from it.plus he's actually very decent.mobile and solid.but because its no some guy with some dodgey euro pop music playing over some well edited youtube video making them look outrageous,it's nah totally underwhelmed with this.
tonyrougier123
26-01-2020, 08:50 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
That's the thing when you want to go for form players price tags are hugely inflated.
Hibs4185
26-01-2020, 08:51 PM
Pars fans think they will get a million quid for Nisbett.
Even if thats far fetched we would still need to pay around 300k for him imo and cant see us doing that.
Paid £250k for SJM who at the time was a bit of an unknown and that turned out not too bad.
NorthNorfolkHFC
26-01-2020, 08:52 PM
We are in need of a striker now, if Kamberi also leaves we'll need 2.
We’d have four strikers?
Nisbet, Gullan, McNulty and Doidge.
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Hibbyradge
26-01-2020, 08:57 PM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
Couldn't agree more.
Hopefully we'll stop looking at Nisbet at Dunfermline.
English championship players or above, please.
IberianHibernian
26-01-2020, 09:00 PM
We’re not after a long term solution to Gray. He’s had a load of injuries. I’m hoping the signing of McGinn allows us to play him when needed, and we have a more than adequate replacement when he’s not availableAre you saying Paul McGinn or alternative would sign thinking he`d only play when Gray isn`t fit ? Know that McGinn can play in other positions .
MacGruber
26-01-2020, 09:05 PM
We’d have four strikers?
Nisbet, Gullan, McNulty and Doidge.
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I would love to see us take a chance on Nisbet, though at his age and stage of career he would be more of a project signing and wouldn't want to rely on him hitting the ground running. It would be a step up in football to Hibs in the premier league aswell as fitness levels. Of course he might adapt quickly but risky to count on it.
Same goes with Gullan who is an inexperienced youngster. Would love him to come in and score goals straight away and might do that but wouldn't put the pressure of expectation on him.
Would.need 1 more to go with McNulty if signed and Doidge for the remainder of this season
IberianHibernian
26-01-2020, 09:21 PM
Sir David Peter Gray signed from Burton Albion at age 25 and that turned out all right
A tried and tested reliable pro he was Alan Stubbs first signing
You cannae build a football team without solid foundationsHis ability has not been in question since he joined Man U in his mid teens . He`s obviously a great professional who is a great influence for younger players at the club . But unfortunately he`s missed a lot of matches through injuries while with us and possibly with previous clubs too which probably explains why he`s with Hibs and not some richer club . A good signing yes , maybe a great one but I doubt we`d risk signing many 25 year olds with the same injury record .
SHODAN
26-01-2020, 09:22 PM
I'd rather go for Nisbet over McNulty.
JimBHibees
26-01-2020, 09:24 PM
John McGinn was about 21 or 22 when he joined us, it’s a bit different.
Chesterfield are *****.
We’re looking at signing a 31 year old player that isnt getting a game for St Mirren and hasn’t ever been any good in his whole career.
Surely alarm bells have got to be ringing?
Has started all St Mirren games apart from today. Assume James will leave.
SHODAN
26-01-2020, 09:26 PM
He's started every game for St Mirren this season until today.
He’s been a regular all season and St Mirren fans seem to rate him highly.
Why are we just making things up now regarding regular appearances?
My mistake, knee jerk reaction that I really should have thought about a bit more before posting. Apologies.
sorryfolks
26-01-2020, 09:27 PM
Has started all St Mirren games apart from today. Assume James will leave.
Why would you assume James will leave? JR has more than once this week come out and say we are short of bodies defensively and we need to bring someone else in. Quite clearly this is that signing. If Porteous and Naismith had stayed fit then Hibs wouldn’t be signing Paul McGinn.
Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 09:27 PM
I'd love to get Nisbet in but now fear we will be priced out of a move. Hope not becuase he does have a very good scoring record.
Priced out a move? By who? Dunfermline? They'd bite our hand off for anything between £150k-£200k.
Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 09:28 PM
Similar scoring record to Shankland think that's their point
Aye, most of them scored in Division 2 of Scottish football. A million pounds my arse and parsley.
Speedway
26-01-2020, 09:33 PM
Priced out a move? By who? Dunfermline? They'd bite our hand off for anything between £150k-£200k.
Isn’t that the same arrogance we accuse Celtic of re: our players?
Not In The Know
26-01-2020, 09:33 PM
Have we actually been linked with Nesbit?
At 29 is he a long term replacement for the right back position? Mcginns age and career to date suggests he probably won’t be.
Naismith is at an age where he could be a long term solution for that position.
Out for the rest of the season and not our player, so not quite the solutions is it. Naismith is no more than a decent RB much the same as McGinn is but only younger, we need to aim higher than both and James's performance yesterday shows he's not the answer either. Gray really struggling with fitness and gaining match fitness and James not good enough, a steady solid pro like McGinn makes sense.
bingo70
26-01-2020, 09:35 PM
Have we actually been linked with Nesbit?
Yeah.
Chick Young on the radio yesterday was saying we are after him.
Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 09:37 PM
Isn’t that the same arrogance we accuse Celtic of re: our players?
Not, our players are in the same league. This lad was in League 1 last season, part time league. If we get priced out a move by Dunfermline or his agent then we are as well calling it a day as a club.
sorryfolks
26-01-2020, 09:46 PM
Not sure I’m on board with all this Nisbet hype. Yes he’s done well for the last 18 months but I’d rather give Gullan an opportunity to flourish rather than pay a six figure transfer fee for someone who’s only ever scored goals at a lower level.
Percy Vere
26-01-2020, 09:55 PM
A club with ambitions of becoming a top four team need to be signing better quality than McGinn from St Mirren.
Are you having a laugh?
Just read what you’ve written.
You probably said the same about his wee brother.
Jim44
26-01-2020, 09:55 PM
Calm down all you anti Nisbet punters. He won’t be at ER any time soon. He’s got bigger fish to fry and I think he’ll be the one that got away.
Not In The Know
26-01-2020, 09:56 PM
Yeah.
Chick Young on the radio yesterday was saying we are after him.
Cheers Bingo
madhatter
26-01-2020, 09:58 PM
Not sure I’m on board with all this Nisbet hype. Yes he’s done well for the last 18 months but I’d rather give Gullan an opportunity to flourish rather than pay a six figure transfer fee for someone who’s only ever scored goals at a lower level.
Sure there were people that said the same about Shankland and Shaw. Rightly or wrongly Shaw is gone and Murray is likely to follow suit shortly. Gullan may make it but we are signing players because our youth development has not been great.
HoboHarry
26-01-2020, 10:00 PM
Thread is like Prime Ministers Question Time. Yah boo, yah boo, that's s***e, naw it's no, aye it is ad infinitum...........
hhibs
26-01-2020, 10:06 PM
Calm down all you anti Nisbet punters. He won’t be at ER any time soon. He’s got bigger fish to fry and I think he’ll be the one that got away.
The "one" you are having a laugh,shirley !
jacomo
26-01-2020, 10:11 PM
Not sure I’m on board with all this Nisbet hype. Yes he’s done well for the last 18 months but I’d rather give Gullan an opportunity to flourish rather than pay a six figure transfer fee for someone who’s only ever scored goals at a lower level.
I think we need another striker though. How similar are these two players?
Hibby Kay-Yay
26-01-2020, 10:30 PM
Yeah.
Chick Young on the radio yesterday was saying we are after him.
The same Chick that witnessed Hibs supporters abusing The Rangers players on the pitch...that Chick?
Pinch of salt.
Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 10:35 PM
I'd rather go for Nisbet over McNulty.
Me too.
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mjhibby
26-01-2020, 11:59 PM
Thread is like Prime Ministers Question Time. Yah boo, yah boo, that's s***e, naw it's no, aye it is ad infinitum...........
Round and round it goes
MacGruber
27-01-2020, 05:31 AM
As another poster suggested on the Paul McGinn thread for right back, Steve Lawson at Livi. A stand out against us, young with plenty potential and scope to improve. Someone like that would be exciting. Maybe McGinn is a short term deal until summer and we go for a quality right back then.
Will just have to see how this window pans out. Lots of people have come to their own conclusion McGinn would be in addition to the 2 incoming players though maybe he is one of them. If that's the case I expect some fans will lose their ****. It would be quite something for Hibs in the same week tell us they want us to contribute to the playing side of the budget and then sign the like of Paul McGinn. No disrespect to the lad, he has always come accross as a good character and fully commited player- but he's of the squad filling variety.
flash
27-01-2020, 06:18 AM
The boy who is in and out the Livvy team is exciting yet the guy who plays every week for St Mirren, and is highly thought of by the supporters, is dull and uninspiring.
The quicker this window shuts the better.
Beefster
27-01-2020, 06:35 AM
As another poster suggested on the Paul McGinn thread for right back, Steve Lawson at Livi. A stand out against us, young with plenty potential and scope to improve. Someone like that would be exciting. Maybe McGinn is a short term deal until summer and we go for a quality right back then.
Folk are deluded if they think McGinn, if he signs, is only coming until the summer. I suppose it can be another thing to whinge about when he gets a contract until 2021 or 2022.
JimBHibees
27-01-2020, 06:37 AM
Folk are deluded if they think McGinn, if he signs, is only coming until the summer. I suppose it can be another thing to whinge about when he gets a contract until 2021 or 2022.
Yep will be 18 months minimum and rightly so.
21sMay
27-01-2020, 07:06 AM
Solid premiership singing that we should be looking to make .
He can also play the spoiler role in the midfield and is very good at it .
EAZY-ME
27-01-2020, 07:17 AM
Have we actually been linked with Nesbit?
Nesbitt might not be a bad signing as long as the move to the spl doesn't give him cold feet
Percy Vere
27-01-2020, 07:20 AM
Solid addition if Mcginn comes.
Knows the league, no nonsense defender who can also play DM.
Makes sense to me. Plus he looks like SJM, welcome to the Hibees.
ThatDayInMay
27-01-2020, 07:25 AM
Solid premiership singing that we should be looking to make .
He can also play the spoiler role in the midfield and is very good at it .
Can play anywhere across the backline. Played RB, LB and slotted in at CB for St Mirren this season. Boy has some engine on him. Good, versatile signing.
jeffers
27-01-2020, 07:51 AM
Folk are deluded if they think McGinn, if he signs, is only coming until the summer. I suppose it can be another thing to whinge about when he gets a contract until 2021 or 2022.
Agreed. St Mirren don't want to lose him. so would presumably offer him a new deal. He won't turn his back on that to just sign for us til the summer.
Hermit Crab
27-01-2020, 07:53 AM
The boy who is in and out the Livvy team is exciting yet the guy who plays every week for St Mirren, and is highly thought of by the supporters, is dull and uninspiring.
The quicker this window shuts the better.
Mental eh. :greengrin
makaveli1875
27-01-2020, 07:58 AM
The thing with McGinn, Ross knows him well. Has seen him day in day out so must be sure he has something to offer. I'd bet he knows better than the dotnet football gurus that have seen him 'a few times' that have declared him to be pish
Captain Trips
27-01-2020, 08:03 AM
Folk are deluded if they think McGinn, if he signs, is only coming until the summer. I suppose it can be another thing to whinge about when he gets a contract until 2021 or 2022.
Well he will be fighting for his place like all others as i still believe Ross has other options perhaps Naismith back. Until summer I am happy with McGinn.
Hiber-nation
27-01-2020, 08:05 AM
The thing with McGinn, Ross knows him well. Has seen him day in day out so must be sure he has something to offer. I'd bet he knows better than the dotnet football gurus that have seen him 'a few times' that have declared him to be pish
The only time I've really noticed him was in the play-off games against Dundee Utd when he was decidedly average at best but to be fair everyone on the park bar the keepers were pretty hopeless in these 2 games.
bingo70
27-01-2020, 08:14 AM
The thing with McGinn, Ross knows him well. Has seen him day in day out so must be sure he has something to offer. I'd bet he knows better than the dotnet football gurus that have seen him 'a few times' that have declared him to be pish
Has anyone declared him to be pish?
Gordy M
27-01-2020, 08:16 AM
Has anyone declared him to be pish?
I think ' this is embarrassing if true'kind of covers the pish angle
madhatter
27-01-2020, 08:22 AM
I think ' this is embarrassing if true'kind of covers the pish angle
That could also cover the "club having to recruit 3 RBs in one season" angle. Club can be unfortunate but having this arrangement for Gray, McGregor and Whittaker has done us no favours from the point of having a fit and able team. That could be what's embarrassing? Or hearing talk of having no money even though we have a tiny squad?
McGinn is a decent squad player, problem is our squad is made up of decent enough squad players. Apart from Boyle you'd struggle to find a player that couldn't be dropped most weeks.
Gordy M
27-01-2020, 08:26 AM
That could also cover the "club having to recruit 3 RBs in one season" angle. Club can be unfortunate but having this arrangement for Gray, McGregor and Whittaker has done us no favours from the point of having a fit and able team. That could be what's embarrassing? Or hearing talk of having no money even though we have a tiny squad?
McGinn is a decent squad player, problem is our squad is made up of decent enough squad players. Apart from Boyle you'd struggle to find a player that couldn't be dropped most weeks.
Yeh i could be......but im not sure it was meant that way at all.
Hibbyradge
27-01-2020, 08:30 AM
The boy who is in and out the Livvy team is exciting yet the guy who plays every week for St Mirren, and is highly thought of by the supporters, is dull and uninspiring.
The quicker this window shuts the better.
Spot on.
The craziness is strong with this one.
MagicSwirlingShip
27-01-2020, 08:31 AM
All very well but unless I’m told if he’s a recruitment team or a Jack Ross signing I’ll no be happy.
madhatter
27-01-2020, 08:35 AM
Yeh i could be......but im not sure it was meant that way at all.
You're probably right. I find it embarrassing as we are going down a cheap route (not judging quality, just cost to acquire), our squad being tiny but looking like we are skint. Adding this to the recent HSL stuff...fans are expectant, eager for some clarity of the future. Signing McGinn doesn't alleviate that, it fuels the concerns. Again nothing to do with him as a player but maybe shows where we are as a club and where we are going. Pinching players from a team likely to be fighting relegation. Pinching on the cheap as well.
malcolm
27-01-2020, 08:50 AM
You're probably right. I find it embarrassing as we are going down a cheap route (not judging quality, just cost to acquire), our squad being tiny but looking like we are skint. Adding this to the recent HSL stuff...fans are expectant, eager for some clarity of the future. Signing McGinn doesn't alleviate that, it fuels the concerns. Again nothing to do with him as a player but maybe shows where we are as a club and where we are going. Pinching players from a team likely to be fighting relegation. Pinching on the cheap as well.
I’d not be impressed, nor donate my spare shekels towards it, if I thought we would go down the route of choosing the more expensive for the same quality just cos it looks good to some :greengrin. I’d not be embarrassed by the cost of recruitment but might be by the quality... but I could only do that in retrospect. :wink:
Hibbyradge
27-01-2020, 08:50 AM
You're probably right. I find it embarrassing as we are going down a cheap route (not judging quality, just cost to acquire), our squad being tiny but looking like we are skint. Adding this to the recent HSL stuff...fans are expectant, eager for some clarity of the future. Signing McGinn doesn't alleviate that, it fuels the concerns. Again nothing to do with him as a player but maybe shows where we are as a club and where we are going. Pinching players from a team likely to be fighting relegation. Pinching on the cheap as well.
Until last weekend, Hibs' priorities were a striker and a midfielder. We still need those players, and I'm sure we're still trying to get them, but because of 2 serious injuries last week, we need cover at the back.
We don't have unlimited resources, so signing a solid, dependable, versatile and affordable Premiership defender seems like a very sensible way to go. He may or may not be a squad player, but his versatility will ensure he'll feature regularly.
With regards to the "cheap" criticism, spending money you don't need to just to give the impression that you're awash with cash is just daft. What does it matter if people think we're skint? :dunno:
Hibbyradge
27-01-2020, 08:51 AM
I’d not be impressed, nor donate my spare shekels towards it, if I thought we would go down the route of choosing the more expensive for the same quality just cos it looks good to some :greengrin. I’d not be embarrassed by the cost of recruitment but might be by the quality... but I could only do that in retrospect. :wink:
I concur.
Gordy M
27-01-2020, 08:52 AM
You're probably right. I find it embarrassing as we are going down a cheap route (not judging quality, just cost to acquire), our squad being tiny but looking like we are skint. Adding this to the recent HSL stuff...fans are expectant, eager for some clarity of the future. Signing McGinn doesn't alleviate that, it fuels the concerns. Again nothing to do with him as a player but maybe shows where we are as a club and where we are going. Pinching players from a team likely to be fighting relegation. Pinching on the cheap as well.
I dont see it like that at all. I think the injury to Naismith has forced our hand a bit due to other injuries and inconsistent form. Ross obviously feels we need another RB and having worked with McGinn sees him as a guy who is obviously well regarded by St M fans, plays in the same league and is versatile. The reason he will be 'cheap'is that the scottish market is a relatively cheap market and im sure he only has 6 months of his contract left. As we have seen, spending a lot of money on wages is no indication of success.
In no way do i see this as an example of our transfer targets. I think he will be in addituon to whoever else we were looking to bring in.
hibsbollah
27-01-2020, 08:56 AM
Until last weekend, Hibs' priorities were a striker and a midfielder. We still need those players, and I'm sure we're still trying to get them, but because of 2 serious injuries last week, we need cover at the back.
We don't have unlimited resources, so signing a solid, dependable, versatile and affordable Premiership defender seems like a very sensible way to go. He may or may not be a squad player, but his versatility will ensure he'll feature regularly.
With regards to the "cheap" criticism, spending money you don't need to just to give the impression that you're awash with cash is just daft. What does it matter if people think we're skint? :dunno:
Because a whole subset of the current generation of football fans play too much FIFA career mode, and think 'winning' the transfer window is just as important as winning actual games of football.
Hibbyradge
27-01-2020, 08:58 AM
Because a whole subset of the current generation of football fans play too much FIFA career mode, and think 'winning' the transfer window is just as important as winning actual games of football.
You're probably right.
I'm just going over to the Aston Villa forum to find out how embarrassed they were when they only paid £3m for SJM.
I'll let you know later.
Greenworld
27-01-2020, 09:03 AM
This Boyle to Celtic could get interesting been told the rangers are going to test the water with a bid if it happens there could be a few more coming in than we thought.
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Unseen work
27-01-2020, 09:35 AM
This Boyle to Celtic could get interesting been told the rangers are going to test the water with a bid if it happens there could be a few more coming in than we thought.
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I actually think him going to Rangers would suit us more - Potential to get guys like Greg Docherty, Brandon Barker or Greg Stewart off them in exchange.
Steven79
27-01-2020, 09:36 AM
I actually think him going to Rangers would suit us more - Potential to get guys like Greg Docherty, Brandon Barker or Greg Stewart off them in exchange.I wouldn't touch Barker...
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Greenbeard
27-01-2020, 09:56 AM
Apogolies if already covered but just seen BBC online gossip suggesting Fraser Murray heading to Dundee on loan.
There is also an online story on BBC about the use of deepfake technology. Can we use it to send them Slivka instead of Murray?
Ronniekirk
27-01-2020, 09:58 AM
Until last weekend, Hibs' priorities were a striker and a midfielder. We still need those players, and I'm sure we're still trying to get them, but because of 2 serious injuries last week, we need cover at the back.
We don't have unlimited resources, so signing a solid, dependable, versatile and affordable Premiership defender seems like a very sensible way to go. He may or may not be a squad player, but his versatility will ensure he'll feature regularly.
With regards to the "cheap" criticism, spending money you don't need to just to give the impression that you're awash with cash is just daft. What does it matter if people think we're skint? :dunno:
The first two paragraphs are spot in I live in Paisley and watch st Mirren a couple of times a season
He is what we need right now to get us through defensive crisis If Gray and McGregor go to form they will both get injured again at some point and folk would be asking why we have no cover as should of seen it coming
If we could get him in but still get the other two quality players in that would be ideal
But McGinn isn’t answer long term for right back spot and would hope we will address that in the summer and he will then be player that can provide cover across the back four Dependable Injury free and can get to by line and put in a decent cross
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Real Emerald
27-01-2020, 10:06 AM
The first two paragraphs are spot in I live in Paisley and watch st Mirren a couple of times a season
He is what we need right now to get us through defensive crisis If Gray and McGregor go to form they will both get injured again at some point and folk would be asking why we have no cover as should of seen it coming
If we could get him in but still get the other two quality players in that would be ideal
But McGinn isn’t answer long term for right back spot and would hope we will address that in the summer and he will then be player that can provide cover across the back four Dependable Injury free and can get to by line and put in a decent cross
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That’s exactly where I am with this, we need the cover but not at the expense of the other signings. We need to do both. Mind you, if we go out the cup tomorrow we’d be as well waiting until summer as our season will be effectively finished bar us getting dragged down into the relegation fight but I can’t see that happening.
hibs4life
27-01-2020, 10:10 AM
You're probably right. I find it embarrassing as we are going down a cheap route (not judging quality, just cost to acquire), our squad being tiny but looking like we are skint. Adding this to the recent HSL stuff...fans are expectant, eager for some clarity of the future. Signing McGinn doesn't alleviate that, it fuels the concerns. Again nothing to do with him as a player but maybe shows where we are as a club and where we are going. Pinching players from a team likely to be fighting relegation. Pinching on the cheap as well.
I find this view of our which type of players we should and should not be interested in baffling and quite illogical. Plenty decent players from 'humble' and unspectacular backgrounds can step up and show their real worth. It can be where the recruitment and coaching elements at a club can really show their value.
Hibbyradge
27-01-2020, 10:28 AM
I find this view of our which type of players we should and should not be interested in baffling and quite illogical. Plenty decent players from 'humble' and unspectacular backgrounds can step up and show their real worth. It can be where the recruitment and coaching elements at a club can really show their value.
Sorry mate, I can't agree with you.
I'd only just got over the crushing embarrassment of signing Ivan Sproule for only £5000 when we go and sign Martin Boyle in a swap deal for Alex Harris.
A swap deal, FFS. Not a penny changed hands.
I've hardly left the house since even though I live 200 miles away in York.
Whit a ridder! :embarrass :embarrass :embarrass
bigwheel
27-01-2020, 10:30 AM
Sorry mate, I can't agree with you.
I'd only just got over the crushing embarrassment if signing Ivan Sproule for only £5000 when we go and sign Martin Boyle in a swap deal for Alex Harris.
A swap deal, FFS. Not a penny changed hands.
I've hardly left the house since even though I live 200 miles away in York.
Whit a ridder! :embarrass :embarrass :embarrass
Hahaha. You’re having a field day on this thread ...-[emoji2]
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 10:40 AM
Motherwell signed Declan Gallagher from Livi who has been outstanding this season.
Motherwell signed Liam Polworth from ICT and has been instrumental in their performances
Livingston signed Lyndon Dykes from QOTS and has been brilliant despite his record everywhere else being poor.
Livingston signed Marvin Bartley from us when everyone thought he was done but no, brilliant for them.
Couple of examples off the top of my head about players from lower leagues/clubs below them who have went on to do very well.
Incidentally both Motherwell and Livingston are above us in the league, maybe it’s not the worst decision to sign McGinn.
Many St Mirren fans have said since he’s joined he’s been the best and most consistent player, add to that his knowledge of Scottish football, our manager knows him and that he’s a McGinn. His attitude will be spot on and he’s got a great engine.
I think theres not much of a difference between the majority of the players in the league, but some perform better in some set ups. I think will Ross we will see that with us when he gets to put his own stamp on the team
Since452
27-01-2020, 10:56 AM
Motherwell signed Declan Gallagher from Livi who has been outstanding this season.
Motherwell signed Liam Polworth from ICT and has been instrumental in their performances
Livingston signed Lyndon Dykes from QOTS and has been brilliant despite his record everywhere else being poor.
Livingston signed Marvin Bartley from us when everyone thought he was done but no, brilliant for them.
Couple of examples off the top of my head about players from lower leagues/clubs below them who have went on to do very well.
Incidentally both Motherwell and Livingston are above us in the league, maybe it’s not the worst decision to sign McGinn.
Many St Mirren fans have said since he’s joined he’s been the best and most consistent player, add to that his knowledge of Scottish football, our manager knows him and that he’s a McGinn. His attitude will be spot on and he’s got a great engine.
I think theres not much of a difference between the majority of the players in the league, but some perform better in some set ups. I think will Ross we will see that with us when he gets to put his own stamp on the team
Stop talking sense please it's Hibs.net
flash
27-01-2020, 10:56 AM
We seem to have all forgotten about any other potential signings in all the McGinn furore.
Paul McGinn will have been well genned up about us and how we look after players by his brother, I think all 3 brothers have a great professional attitude towards the game.
green with envy
27-01-2020, 11:20 AM
Sorry mate, I can't agree with you.
I'd only just got over the crushing embarrassment of signing Ivan Sproule for only £5000 when we go and sign Martin Boyle in a swap deal for Alex Harris.
A swap deal, FFS. Not a penny changed hands.
I've hardly left the house since even though I live 200 miles away in York.
Whit a ridder! :embarrass :embarrass :embarrass
I watched Alex Harris play for Edinburgh City 2/3 weeks ago and was hoping to see a flash or two of brilliance from him but he was absolutely terrible. the swap with Boyle as worked out not to bad i'd say.:agree:
Beefster
27-01-2020, 11:37 AM
Because a whole subset of the current generation of football fans play too much FIFA career mode, and think 'winning' the transfer window is just as important as winning actual games of football.
If you need to practice your FIFA more, please do so but don't denigrate the rest of us who effortlessly win Champions Leagues and leagues/cups with the Hibs.
calumhibee1
27-01-2020, 11:43 AM
I’m going to be gutted if we don’t sign McGinn. The next best thing to getting SJM back would be to have his brother instead.
Greenworld
27-01-2020, 11:55 AM
I’m going to be gutted if we don’t sign McGinn. The next best thing to getting SJM back would be to have his brother instead.I think you will get your wish st Mirren fans reckon it's a done deal
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hhibs
27-01-2020, 11:56 AM
I dont see it like that at all. I think the injury to Naismith has forced our hand a bit due to other injuries and inconsistent form. Ross obviously feels we need another RB and having worked with McGinn sees him as a guy who is obviously well regarded by St M fans, plays in the same league and is versatile. The reason he will be 'cheap'is that the scottish market is a relatively cheap market and im sure he only has 6 months of his contract left. As we have seen, spending a lot of money on wages is no indication of success.
In no way do i see this as an example of our transfer targets. I think he will be in addituon to whoever else we were looking to bring in.
I do agree with this ,though it is clear if we do not get the others in we need it will likely be poor rest of 19/20 and, for next seasons season ticket sales a calamity.
Captain Trips
27-01-2020, 11:57 AM
Embarrassing that this is the level we are aiming for.
Not as embarrassing as some of the defending i have witnessed this season, disgraceful some of it. Any changes back there are welcome.
Halmyre Hibee
27-01-2020, 11:59 AM
Motherwell signed Declan Gallagher from Livi who has been outstanding this season.
Motherwell signed Liam Polworth from ICT and has been instrumental in their performances
Livingston signed Lyndon Dykes from QOTS and has been brilliant despite his record everywhere else being poor.
Livingston signed Marvin Bartley from us when everyone thought he was done but no, brilliant for them.
Couple of examples off the top of my head about players from lower leagues/clubs below them who have went on to do very well.
Incidentally both Motherwell and Livingston are above us in the league, maybe it’s not the worst decision to sign McGinn.
Many St Mirren fans have said since he’s joined he’s been the best and most consistent player, add to that his knowledge of Scottish football, our manager knows him and that he’s a McGinn. His attitude will be spot on and he’s got a great engine.
I think theres not much of a difference between the majority of the players in the league, but some perform better in some set ups. I think will Ross we will see that with us when he gets to put his own stamp on the team
And all the above players would improve our team / squad.
Heisenberg
27-01-2020, 12:13 PM
Jonathan Afolabi has joined Dunfermline on loan, maybe making up for Nesbit being on his way?
lord bunberry
27-01-2020, 12:15 PM
I’m going to be gutted if we don’t sign McGinn. The next best thing to getting SJM back would be to have his brother instead.
:agree: I know nothing about him other than he’s the brother of sjm. On that basis it obviously a good signing. Talking of brothers I’ve heard James Forrest’s brother has been good for Ayr, get him signed up. We could have a team filled with famous brothers. :greengrin
ThatDayInMay
27-01-2020, 12:20 PM
Stop talking sense please it's Hibs.net
Beat me to it 😂.
Jim44
27-01-2020, 12:30 PM
Jonathan Afolabi has joined Dunfermline on loan, maybe making up for Nesbit being on his way?
Quite a few clubs will be interested in him and I don’t think we can compete financially.
bingo70
27-01-2020, 12:31 PM
Quite a few clubs will be interested in him and I don’t think we can compete financially.
Especially when we’ve got 5 right backs to pay for 😉
Stevie Reid
27-01-2020, 12:32 PM
Paul Fenwick was two months away from being 31 when we signed him in 2000, his career to that point had seen him play for Dunfermline, Raith, St. Mirren and Morton. Was a superb signing.
Perfectly happy for us to sign McGinn, good experience and seems to be able to cover more than one position.
Since452
27-01-2020, 12:36 PM
Paul Fenwick was two months away from being 31 when we signed him in 2000, his career to that point had seen him play for Dunfermline, Raith, St. Mirren and Morton. Was a superb signing.
Perfectly happy for us to sign McGinn, good experience and seems to be able to cover more than one position.
Derek Collins too when we signed him from Morton
JeMeSouviens
27-01-2020, 12:37 PM
Paul McGinn's only 29. It's Stephen McGinn that's 31. Stephen's not a bad player either.
Stevie Reid
27-01-2020, 12:40 PM
Paul McGinn's only 29. It's Stephen McGinn that's 31. Stephen's not a bad player either.
I did keep up with that, was bringing Fenwick into it as he was older and with less (if any) top flight experience than McGinn.
Stevie Reid
27-01-2020, 12:40 PM
Derek Collins too when we signed him from Morton
Good point.
Has anyone declared him to be pish?
Perhaps not that actual word but close.
JeMeSouviens
27-01-2020, 12:44 PM
I did keep up with that, was bringing Fenwick into it as he was older and with less (if any) top flight experience than McGinn.
Ah ok, got you.
Sunderland manager says he doesn't want to loose McNulty, but then it's reported in the Sun
The boy Josh Laurent for Shrewsbury looks a player 24 years old and out of contract in the summer. Would be well worth a look at. Strong box to box ball winning midfielder. Not sure if we have one of these.
GillyHibee
27-01-2020, 01:08 PM
On the subject of players returning from loan and defensive midfielders, has anyone watched tommy block play? Is he worth a try in the event that a DM isn't signed?
madhatter
27-01-2020, 01:15 PM
On the subject of players returning from loan and defensive midfielders, has anyone watched tommy block play? Is he worth a try in the event that a DM isn't signed?
Think he can play RB as well!
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 01:16 PM
What’s happening with Mihkel Ainsalu?
green with envy
27-01-2020, 01:38 PM
What’s happening with Mihkel Ainsalu?
Couldny play right back.:rolleyes:
yerauldda
27-01-2020, 01:47 PM
The boy Josh Laurent for Shrewsbury looks a player 24 years old and out of contract in the summer. Would be well worth a look at. Strong box to box ball winning midfielder. Not sure if we have one of these.
Yep - was very impressed last night. Ticks a lot of boxes.
Paloschi
27-01-2020, 02:12 PM
Claudio Yacob released from Nottingham Forest. 32 but could do a job as DM. We are crying out for someone with defensive know how and experience in midfield.
We are either a) failing to bring targets in or b) waiting for the right players to become available.
All at the cost of the squad being very imbalanced still and short of numbers. Not saying I don't trust the club but we need to get 3 bodies in to save our season.
CapitalGreen
27-01-2020, 02:36 PM
Claudio Yacob released from Nottingham Forest. 32 but could do a job as DM. We are crying out for someone with defensive know how and experience in midfield.
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Has anyone got a link to his older brothers Wikipedia page so I can decide if Claudio is worth signing or not?
Edinburgh Green
27-01-2020, 02:36 PM
What’s happening with Mihkel Ainsalu?
If he and McGinn are the 2 players we hope to sign this week, I think a few on this site will spontaneously combust!
Since452
27-01-2020, 02:37 PM
Has anyone got a link to his older brothers Wikipedia page so I can decide if Claudio is worth signing or not?
If he's not a McGinn I'm not interested
Heisenberg
27-01-2020, 02:38 PM
DR saying we aim to sign McNulty this week.
Stuart93
27-01-2020, 02:40 PM
DR saying we aim to sign McNulty this week.
Let’s hope we have a back up
SouthMoroccoStu
27-01-2020, 02:49 PM
DR saying we aim to sign McNulty this week.
EEN saying almost the opposite
Sunderland boss wants him to stay
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 03:06 PM
Jack Ross confirming we have made an approach for McGinn and confident we will come to an agreement with club and player. He’s also hoping for another 1 or 2 in on top of him.
Whoever the 1 or 2 are better be real quality and go straight into the starting 11
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 03:07 PM
Jack Ross confirming we have made an approach for McGinn and confident we will come to an agreement with club and player. He’s also hoping for another 1 or 2 in on top of him.
Whoever the 1 or 2 are better be real quality and go straight into the starting 11
If they can play 16 different positions as back up it will be okay for some.
SHODAN
27-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Three signings sounds about right. McGinn, a striker and a DM.
SMAXXA
27-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Three signings sounds about right. McGinn, a striker and a DM.
Now likely to be a CH than a DM
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 03:24 PM
If they can play 16 different positions as back up it will be okay for some.
Whatever happened to signing players that played a specific position! None of this he could do a job in three positions, if that’s the case it’s likely they’re not good/consistent enough and just fill in.
Got to say so far I’m very disappointed with this window, I was expecting players in very early to strengthen our obvious weak positions.
Especially with Mathie coming out 2 weeks or so ago saying discussions are ongoing and there will be new additions.
Still time but boy are we cutting it fine.
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Now likely to be a CH than a DM
We need both. I would scrap the striker if it came down to it. VN Flo’ and Boyle can all play up top. We need a DM massively.
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 03:27 PM
Whatever happened to signing players that played a specific position! None of this he could do a job in three positions, if that’s the case it’s likely they’re not good/consistent enough and just fill in.
Got to say so far I’m very disappointed with this window, I was expecting players in very early to strengthen our obvious weak positions.
Especially with Mathie coming out 2 weeks or so ago saying discussions are ongoing and there will be new additions.
Still time but boy are we cutting it fine.
That’s all I want, every season, we have a recruitment team - manager goes I need a left midfielder, get the best person to fill that role instead of getting josh vela because he’s free and hope we can cover up. We seem to scout players or go for players regardless of their position and just throw them in, every single time.
Edinburgh Green
27-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Claudio Yacob released from Nottingham Forest. 32 but could do a job as DM. We are crying out for someone with defensive know how and experience in midfield.
We are either a) failing to bring targets in or b) waiting for the right players to become available.
All at the cost of the squad being very imbalanced still and short of numbers. Not saying I don't trust the club but we need to get 3 bodies in to save our season.
Joining Nacional in Uruguay
Torto7
27-01-2020, 03:28 PM
If it ends up being McGinn, McNulty and centre half cover then it's a another disappointing transfer window as far as I'm concerned.
HendoDelivered
27-01-2020, 03:30 PM
McGinn, McNulty/Nesbit, a CDM and potentially CB cover would be enough to see us through till the summer.
makaveli1875
27-01-2020, 03:34 PM
If it ends up being McGinn, McNulty and centre half cover then it's a another disappointing transfer window as far as I'm concerned.
you forgot Omeonga .Its not been that bad
Billy Whizz
27-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Now likely to be a CH than a DM
Is Jackson moving on?
Torto7
27-01-2020, 03:38 PM
you forgot Omeonga .Its not been that bad
I love Steph but its another sticky plaster six month loan. I was expecting more.
HoboHarry
27-01-2020, 03:43 PM
If it ends up being McGinn, McNulty and centre half cover then it's a another disappointing transfer window as far as I'm concerned.
You and every other disappointed fan of every club in the country who don't make many new signings in the January both historically or in future years.
Since452
27-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Really hope we get Nisbet
we are hibs
27-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Not signing a defensive midfielder despite it being the most blatant position we have needed strengthened this season would be unacceptable. I would be shocked if we dont sign one this week.
Jim44
27-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Really hope we get Nisbet
Don’t get your hopes too high. I believe bigger and richer clubs than us are sniffing around.
Tully
27-01-2020, 03:54 PM
Hearing hearts have enquired about nisbet
SMAXXA
27-01-2020, 03:54 PM
Is Jackson moving on?
No sure mate wouldn’t think so
Percy Vere
27-01-2020, 03:54 PM
If it ends up being McGinn, McNulty and centre half cover then it's a another disappointing transfer window as far as I'm concerned.
And Omeonga!
What do you expect?
SMAXXA
27-01-2020, 03:55 PM
Hearing hearts have enquired about nisbet
Was just going to post queue hearts interested in Nisbet
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 03:59 PM
Hearing hearts have enquired about nisbet
Oh well. Time for Ron to get his wallet out.
Jim44
27-01-2020, 04:02 PM
Hearing hearts have enquired about nisbet
Was just going to post queue hearts interested in Nisbet
That’s the advantage of having mystery benefactors. :greengrin Mind you, I think they have bigger competition than us.
SMAXXA
27-01-2020, 04:03 PM
That’s the advantage of having mystery benefactors. :greengrin Mind you, I think they have bigger competition than us.
Who else is keen mate?
Hearing hearts have enquired about nisbet
St Mirren and Doncaster Rovers have also watched him.
I can only see one outcome if The yams have enquired.... benefactors money will be paid and he’ll end up there.
I really hope I’m wrong but I’m note sure we will splash much cash this week
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Hermit Crab
27-01-2020, 04:06 PM
Boyle to Rangers?
Nesbit to Hearts??
Russian sailors???
Torto7
27-01-2020, 04:06 PM
And Omeonga!
What do you expect?
First team players that will be here longer than a few months. If Steph was permanent I'd be excited. Same with Nisbit. Or the Crisitig link. Boyce/McGeouch. A winger wouldn't go amiss either.
I'm not a doom and gloomer but it feels like the summer window to me. No real boost in spending and monies being redirected to other areas of the club. Maybe I'm wrong and we'll see with the announcements to come but that's the feeling I get.
Fergus52
27-01-2020, 04:12 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
Billy Whizz
27-01-2020, 04:14 PM
No sure mate wouldn’t think so
Ok, just thought with your post re a CH, he’d be going
delbert
27-01-2020, 04:15 PM
Now likely to be a CH than a DM
If we don’t get a DM in, then I’m unsure exactly what Ross is seeing, it’s blindingly obvious we are short in that area, midfield full of guys who can’t or won’t put a tackle in, Scott Allan being the exception. Every other club in the league has some sort of midfield enforcer, and consequently we never seem to dominate in that area, a striker and a DM are the minimum we require this window, Happy if we bring McGinn in but he would have been my third priority out of these three positions, not my first. And Ron Gordon won’t be opening his wallet anytime soon as regards transfers, his money will be financing infrastructure and training centre improvements, transfers will still be self financing from sales of players, wages saved etc
Torto7
27-01-2020, 04:16 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vsSriMMI4 He seems to be playing in midfield in some of these clips. 27 years old.
Mikey
27-01-2020, 04:17 PM
Quite a few clubs will be interested in him and I don’t think we can compete financially.
If we don't start competing financially I'm going to cancel my HSL contribution...........
Brightside
27-01-2020, 04:17 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
He's a DM i think. 27yo.
GloryGlory
27-01-2020, 04:18 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/barnsley-hibernian-enquire-for-amos-youga-le-havre/
Barnsley also interested.
Gaffer1875
27-01-2020, 04:18 PM
When does the window SLAM shut?
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DetroitHibs
27-01-2020, 04:19 PM
If we don't start competing financially I'm going to cancel my HSL contribution...........
You pay that little bit extra for quality, or you end up with bang average players like we have of late.
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 04:19 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
Notice a couple of places saying he’s a central midfielder with Barnsley also interested.
27 years old big athletic looking guy
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 04:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vsSriMMI4 He seems to be playing in midfield in some of these clips. 27 years old.
The new Oumar Konde.
Billy Whizz
27-01-2020, 04:20 PM
When does the window SLAM shut?
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Think it’s Friday midnight in Scotland
The 90+2
27-01-2020, 04:20 PM
When does the window SLAM shut?
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Friday. New signing quality could be dependent on how we get on the morn.
Torto7
27-01-2020, 04:22 PM
The new Oumar Konde.
I had to look him up I have no memory of him at all.:faf:
Gaffer1875
27-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Think it’s Friday midnight in Scotland
Cheers. Hopefully an exciting week ahead
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Since452
27-01-2020, 04:26 PM
Boyle to Rangers?
Nesbit to Hearts??
Russian sailors???
Hope it's Rab C
ThatDayInMay
27-01-2020, 04:29 PM
He's a DM i think. 27yo.
He is indeed. Exactly what we are after.
hibee-boys
27-01-2020, 04:42 PM
Barnsley or Edinburgh.....easy choice!
"Oh, he's happy to go anywhere for the most money".....do St Mirren have any DM available??
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 04:44 PM
So McNulty, McGinn and Youga in?
Supposedly Mackie has rejoined us and Murray is going out on loan also.
JimBHibees
27-01-2020, 04:45 PM
He's a DM i think. 27yo.
Certainly the clips appear to suggest that. Looks hard as nails
04Sauzee
27-01-2020, 04:47 PM
So McNulty, McGinn and Youga in?
Supposedly Mackie has rejoined us and Murray is going out on loan also.
Pretty sure Mackie is injured and had been operated on?
Unseen work
27-01-2020, 04:49 PM
Pretty sure Mackie is injured and had been operated on?
You’re right, I imagine that’s the only reason he’s back. Be surprised to see Murray leave given how short we are on numbers.
Billy Whizz
27-01-2020, 04:52 PM
You’re right, I imagine that’s the only reason he’s back. Be surprised to see Murray leave given how short we are on numbers.
Haven’t seen the Murray loan, confirmed anywhere yet
04Sauzee
27-01-2020, 04:54 PM
You’re right, I imagine that’s the only reason he’s back. Be surprised to see Murray leave given how short we are on numbers.
Be surprised if Murray leaves unless we get more than the 2 or 3 in that Ross sooke about today although in sayimg that did he not say he expected movement both ways? Maybe picked it up wrong.
we are hibs
27-01-2020, 04:59 PM
French paper l'equipe reporting that we're after a Le Havre centre back, Ames Youga.
Bonus points to whoever can name the last midfielder we signed from Le Havre..
HibbyKeith
27-01-2020, 05:00 PM
Bonus points to whoever can name the last midfielder we signed from Le Havre..
Guillaume Beuzelin
Torto7
27-01-2020, 05:00 PM
Bonus points to whoever can name the last midfielder we signed from Le Havre..
Boozy?
The Modfather
27-01-2020, 05:01 PM
If we don't start competing financially I'm going to cancel my HSL contribution...........
How will we sign anymore right backs for right back school if you do that?
Stuart93
27-01-2020, 05:09 PM
So McNulty, McGinn and Youga in?
Supposedly Mackie has rejoined us and Murray is going out on loan also.
I’d be happy with those 3 in to be honest
Would rather nisbet or mcnulty but would take either
Need to start getting our targets in now, late in the day to be missing out on them
Gut tells me we should be signing Nisbet.
If we don’t get a DM in, then I’m unsure exactly what Ross is seeing, it’s blindingly obvious we are short in that area, midfield full of guys who can’t or won’t put a tackle in, Scott Allan being the exception. Every other club in the league has some sort of midfield enforcer, and consequently we never seem to dominate in that area, a striker and a DM are the minimum we require this window, Happy if we bring McGinn in but he would have been my third priority out of these three positions, not my first. And Ron Gordon won’t be opening his wallet anytime soon as regards transfers, his money will be financing infrastructure and training centre improvements, transfers will still be self financing from sales of players, wages saved etc
How do you know McGinn is the 1st priority?
madhatter
27-01-2020, 05:19 PM
Ross saying more could be leaving...will we be able to put out a starting 11?
"I would imagine there would be some activity both in and out before Friday." - from BBC.
Hermit Crab
27-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Ross saying more could be leaving...will we be able to put out a starting 11?
"I would imagine there would be some activity both in and out before Friday." - from BBC.
Could he mean development lads going out on loan?
CloudSquall
27-01-2020, 05:22 PM
Ross saying more could be leaving...will we be able to put out a starting 11?
"I would imagine there would be some activity both in and out before Friday." - from BBC.
If the activity ends up being 100% out I might block my weekend to ensure 100% .net time :greengrin
Real Emerald
27-01-2020, 05:22 PM
So now we’re told PM and one other according to JR on STV. That’s not nearly enough.
supermcginn
27-01-2020, 05:24 PM
So now we’re told PM and one other according to JR on STV. That’s not nearly enough.
Shambles.
madhatter
27-01-2020, 05:26 PM
Could he mean development lads going out on loan?
Even if he is, what if we get another injury to a RB? Do we sign a free agent? Surely the development players could fill in the place until the injured player comes back...Stirling is 21 now so I think he is very unlikely to make the grade. The fact we need to pad our squad with so many signings (a ridiculous number of RBs) shows how poor our youth is sadly. Most of which are in their final year of being a "youth/development" player.
HoboHarry
27-01-2020, 05:27 PM
If the activity ends up being 100% out I might block my weekend to ensure 100% .net time :greengrin
You'll need firearm grade ear defenders to drown out the wailing and gnashing of teeth :greengrin
Could he mean development lads going out on loan?
I think Slivka might go HC??
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craigiehibs
27-01-2020, 05:27 PM
So now we’re told PM and one other according to JR on STV. That’s not nearly enough.
and u believe everythings thats said in public? really??
madhatter
27-01-2020, 05:27 PM
So now we’re told PM and one other according to JR on STV. That’s not nearly enough.
Get signed up to HSL!
Since452
27-01-2020, 05:28 PM
Am I the only one who finds this transfer window tedious? Bed wetting and gnashing of teeth every January year after year.
CloudSquall
27-01-2020, 05:29 PM
There has to be some serious questions asked of the recruitment team and the club as a whole if that is it come Friday given how long the gaps in the squad have been known.
The recruitment head gave a big song and dance a while back about the continuous identification of players for each role yet here we are with what seems to be a throwback to transfer windows 5-10 years ago of having to wait to deadline day to see any activity (outside of Omeonga of course).
We've known all season we are a DM short, the club has to be asked about WTF has happened here.
Real Emerald
27-01-2020, 05:29 PM
and u believe everythings thats said in public? really??
What difference does it make if he said another 2. I can’t see the point in lying. He’s dealing with agents and clubs who know what we’re looking for anyway.
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