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Leith Green
26-01-2020, 10:43 AM
Would you prefer James to dive into a tackle as soon as his opponent gets the ball, even if it’s 40 yards from our goal?? That would be terrible defending, thankfully you’re not coaching James. Several times yesterday I saw him jockey his man down the line, then ultimately blocking the attempted cross. Yes, he was beaten a couple of times early on, to be expected given his lack of game time. He is far from being “completely rubbish”.


He is completely rubbish , no doubt about it. To say he got beaten a couple of times is complete rubbish as well , there were 5 or 6 occasions in the first half alone.

Do you seriously think allowing the opposition attacker to run into the box is good defending? Did you watch his performance against Celtic at hampden? Im not asking the full back to dive in , i want my full back to stop the attacker from running into the box at ease.

GreenNWhiteArmy
26-01-2020, 11:18 AM
Blackburn WERE looking at boyle apparently but want a left wide man instead

Safe to say many clubs have been keeping tabs on him and he'll be away sooner or later. If he goes with Australia in the summer and plays well, we could get a pretty penny.

Give him better terms now, extend for a year and we could get upwards of 2M

bigwheel
26-01-2020, 11:19 AM
He is completely rubbish , no doubt about it. To say he got beaten a couple of times is complete rubbish as well , there were 5 or 6 occasions in the first half alone.

Do you seriously think allowing the opposition attacker to run into the box is good defending? Did you watch his performance against Celtic at hampden? Im not asking the full back to dive in , i want my full back to stop the attacker from running into the box at ease.

What was your view of his second half performance?


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Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 11:20 AM
Tam McManus reckons we are interested in Paul McGinn. Right back at St Mirren, out of contract in the summer. Johns brother.

Northernhibee
26-01-2020, 11:22 AM
Tam McManus reckons we are interested in Paul McGinn. Right back at St Mirren, out of contract in the summer. Johns brother.

We've got McGinn...

DJ HIBBY
26-01-2020, 11:23 AM
Tam McManus reckons we are interested in Paul McGinn. Right back at St Mirren, out of contract in the summer. Johns brother.

Told me about it earlier. Another right back 🤣

Since452
26-01-2020, 11:28 AM
I think McGinn is decent. Wouldn't be a bad option

Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 11:28 AM
Mcginn been dropped for St Mirren.

Hes not good enough imo. We need much better

S4uzee
26-01-2020, 11:29 AM
Mcginn been dropped for St Mirren.

Hes not good enough imo. We need much better

Totally agree

HendoDelivered
26-01-2020, 11:30 AM
Tam McManus reckons we are interested in Paul McGinn. Right back at St Mirren, out of contract in the summer. Johns brother.

Luckily Tam’s about as credible as a bag of cement.

supermcginn
26-01-2020, 11:30 AM
Tam McManus reckons we are interested in Paul McGinn. Right back at St Mirren, out of contract in the summer. Johns brother.

Jeez, surely not.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 11:37 AM
I’ve no clue how good Paul McGinn is. Played most of his career in the lower leagues or at smaller clubs. At 29 could do as short term backup but not a long term solution surely.

CMurdoch
26-01-2020, 11:44 AM
Would you prefer James to dive into a tackle as soon as his opponent gets the ball, even if it’s 40 yards from our goal?? That would be terrible defending, thankfully you’re not coaching James. Several times yesterday I saw him jockey his man down the line, then ultimately blocking the attempted cross. Yes, he was beaten a couple of times early on, to be expected given his lack of game time. He is far from being “completely rubbish”.

Fortunately for James he will be judged by Jack Ross and his coaches rather than by folk on here.
He was ripped badly for the first 10 minutes of the game but settled after that in his first game for a long time.
His tormentor, Scott of Motherwell is an outstanding player who will go onto better things.

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 11:54 AM
Fortunately for James he will be judged by Jack Ross and his coaches rather than by folk on here.
He was ripped badly for the first 10 minutes of the game but settled after that in his first game for a long time.
His tormentor, Scott of Motherwell is an outstanding player who will go onto better things.

Maybe no that fortunate if he’s been judged by them seen as he appears to be their third choice right back.

MWHIBBIES
26-01-2020, 11:56 AM
Maybe no that fortunate if he’s been judged by them seen as he appears to be their third choice right back.

Maybe but one is out for the season and the other made of weetabix so he'll get plenty of chances to impress.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 12:48 PM
Fraser Murray to Dundee on loan. Quite ridiculous we didn’t loan him out last season but good news that he’ll now get some regular game time.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/exclusive-hibs-kid-fraser-murray-set-for-dundee-loan/

hhibs
26-01-2020, 12:52 PM
Fraser Murray to Dundee on loan. Quite ridiculous we didn’t loan him out last season but good news that he’ll now get some regular game time.



https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/exclusive-hibs-kid-fraser-murray-set-for-dundee-loan/


Thought Makie was back at HIBS ?

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 12:54 PM
Thought Makie was back at HIBS ?

He is, but he’s injured just now
Not sure how long he’s out for though

mcfly
26-01-2020, 12:58 PM
Fraser Murray to Dundee on loan. Quite ridiculous we didn’t loan him out last season but good news that he’ll now get some regular game time.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/exclusive-hibs-kid-fraser-murray-set-for-dundee-loan/

Another player away??

Surely there must be a defender, midfielder and striker coming in?

craigiehibs
26-01-2020, 01:01 PM
Another player away??

Surely there must be a defender, midfielder and striker coming in?

yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 01:01 PM
Another player away??

Surely there must be a defender, midfielder and striker coming in?

Hope Fraser gets a good run of games. Dundee struggling just now, but I’m sure this will benefit Fraser and Hibs in the long run

Joe6-2
26-01-2020, 01:03 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

Tell, tell, tell

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 01:04 PM
Ben Stirling in the right back position, makes a great run and pass, to set up the Alloa winner

https://twitter.com/alloaathleticfc/status/1221395235491799040?s=21

Hibbyradge
26-01-2020, 01:04 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

I'm prepared for a Hibs surprise.

I'm always prepared, but rarely surprised!

craigiehibs
26-01-2020, 01:05 PM
Tell, tell, tell

sorry. cant

number9dream
26-01-2020, 01:06 PM
We must have at least a couple of players lined up if we're letting so many go.
Hope Murray can thrive at Dundee. They don't score many, so stick him in behind Hemmings up front and it could be a good move for all parties.

Stuart93
26-01-2020, 01:07 PM
He is, but he’s injured just now
Not sure how long he’s out for though

Needs an OP out for the season

Stuart93
26-01-2020, 01:07 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

Hope you’re right mate

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 01:09 PM
Needs an OP out for the season

That’s a real blow for him
That’s us had 4 serious injuries recently

Joe6-2
26-01-2020, 01:10 PM
sorry. cant

Shame, but as long as genuine I will be pleased!

Hibbyradge
26-01-2020, 01:10 PM
Hope you’re right mate

He didn't say it was a pleasant surprise. :paranoid:

MacGruber
26-01-2020, 01:10 PM
Surely not going in for Paul McGinn, don't beleive that for a second.

Glad Murray will get game time though shrinks the squad again.....

JPrinty
26-01-2020, 01:11 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

A good surprise or bad surprise?

Ray_
26-01-2020, 01:12 PM
I’ve no clue how good Paul McGinn is. Played most of his career in the lower leagues or at smaller clubs. At 29 could do as short term backup but not a long term solution surely.


You would think Ross will know though having managed him in the not too distant past, so gets my vote if true.

Since452
26-01-2020, 01:15 PM
Did Fraser Murray not play a brilliant assist for someone last season? Can remember who it was against

RoscoHibby
26-01-2020, 01:17 PM
Ben Stirling in the right back position, makes a great run and pass, to set up the Alloa winner

https://twitter.com/alloaathleticfc/status/1221395235491799040?s=21

Actually no a good ball cos the boys about a week offside but gets away with it 😂😂

Eyrie
26-01-2020, 01:19 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!


sorry. cant

Saul Goodman's going to have his work cut out with this little to go on!

mcfly
26-01-2020, 01:19 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

Well I hope you are right and I hope it’s a surprise that shows ambition to be better than what we are at present 🤞🤞

Alfred E Newman
26-01-2020, 01:23 PM
We must have at least a couple of players lined up if we're letting so many go.
Hope Murray can thrive at Dundee. They don't score many, so stick him in behind Hemmings up front and it could be a good move for all parties.

I noticed yesterday that Motherwell had to field a young side due to injuries to key players and still managed to dominate the game.
We keep asking the same question, why don't we seem to produce any that are good enough to break into the first team? Any that we do manage to bring through are loaned out and eventually punted like Shaw.

21sMay
26-01-2020, 01:27 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

If it's the 'suprise' I was told was all but done then unfortunately supposedly it's fell through .

easty
26-01-2020, 01:28 PM
I noticed yesterday that Motherwell had to field a young side due to injuries to key players and still managed to dominate the game.
We keep asking the same question, why don't we seem to produce any that are good enough to break into the first team? Any that we do manage to bring through are loaned out and eventually punted like Shaw.

Is that even true? Who were they missing yesterday? Wasn’t that the same side that beat Aberdeen away last week?

Iggy Pope
26-01-2020, 01:31 PM
I noticed yesterday that Motherwell had to field a young side due to injuries to key players and still managed to dominate the game.
We keep asking the same question, why don't we seem to produce any that are good enough to break into the first team? Any that we do manage to bring through are loaned out and eventually punted like Shaw.

Motherwell never dominated that game yesterday. Were they missing more players than Hibs?

21sMay
26-01-2020, 01:31 PM
We are very close on two deals I've been told . Nesbitt will be in addition to these two if we can make it happen

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 01:32 PM
Ross quoted as saying minimum two in and no more out was the plan for this week. With Murray now going out hopefully we are getting at least three in.

ThatDayInMay
26-01-2020, 01:34 PM
Ross quoted as saying minimum two in and no more out was the plan for this week. With Murray now going out hopefully we are getting at least three in.

“We are pushing to try to get two players in this week. We might do more, but certainly two in and no more out would be the plan for this week."

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1221440124384313346?s=21

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 01:36 PM
We are very close on two deals I've been told . Nesbitt will be in addition to these two if we can make it happen

Tell us more....

And what was the surprise that fell through?

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 01:38 PM
Is that even true? Who were they missing yesterday? Wasn’t that the same side that beat Aberdeen away last week?

It’s nonsense they fielded a young team. Only the guy Maciver hasn’t been a consistent starter for them up top.

Scott has been playing nearly every week and is a very good young player.

They were without Long, Cole and Hylton however.

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 01:39 PM
Actually no a good ball cos the boys about a week offside but gets away with it 😂😂

It was a great ball, forward should have been keeping an eye on his position

greenlex
26-01-2020, 01:51 PM
Motherwell never dominated that game yesterday. Were they missing more players than Hibs?

This. They had more possession but most of it was either in their own half or in non dangerous positions. Definitely didn’t dominate the game.

CMurdoch
26-01-2020, 01:54 PM
Ross and the club have worked very hard in the window.
4 Players moved out who are not in his plans or being replaced.
Players moved out on loan so that they can develop
Wish Oli had just been a loan but it is done now and only time will tell if it was a mistake.
2 good players in to date and 2-3 likely to come in by Friday.
An exciting week ahead.

SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 02:02 PM
If it's the 'suprise' I was told was all but done then unfortunately supposedly it's fell through .

Well just say what you’ve heard that no the point in the board, these I’ve heard this and that bit not saying what it is for me is bollox.

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 02:04 PM
If it's the 'suprise' I was told was all but done then unfortunately supposedly it's fell through .

Spoilsport you could have let us at least have fun with this for a bit longer


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SouthMoroccoStu
26-01-2020, 02:12 PM
Ross and the club have worked very hard in the window.
4 Players moved out who are not in his plans or being replaced.
Players moved out on loan so that they can develop
Wish Oli had just been a loan but it is done now and only time will tell if it was a mistake.
2 good players in to date and 2-3 likely to come in by Friday.
An exciting week ahead.
Well said
Far too many doom and gloom on this site
Let’s see what the week brings before we push the panic button

ThatDayInMay
26-01-2020, 02:18 PM
Ross and the club have worked very hard in the window.
4 Players moved out who are not in his plans or being replaced.
Players moved out on loan so that they can develop
Wish Oli had just been a loan but it is done now and only time will tell if it was a mistake.
2 good players in to date and 2-3 likely to come in by Friday.
An exciting week ahead.

Absolutely. Busy week at HTC.

Stuart93
26-01-2020, 02:30 PM
Well just say what you’ve heard that no the point in the board, these I’ve heard this and that bit not saying what it is for me is bollox.

Agree with that tbh

Anyone could say “aw I heard we were getting a big surprise but it’s fell through so now we’re not”

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 02:33 PM
Ross and the club have worked very hard in the window.
4 Players moved out who are not in his plans or being replaced.
Players moved out on loan so that they can develop
Wish Oli had just been a loan but it is done now and only time will tell if it was a mistake.
2 good players in to date and 2-3 likely to come in by Friday.
An exciting week ahead.

1 good player in to date.

Apart from that, I think they’ve made a positive start in getting rid of some of the rubbish.

greenlex
26-01-2020, 02:33 PM
Well just say what you’ve heard that no the point in the board, these I’ve heard this and that bit not saying what it is for me is bollox.

Exactly. If you can’t say then don’t ****ing half say.

HendoDelivered
26-01-2020, 02:34 PM
St mirren fan account saying Paul McGinn to us may go through next week.

GreenNWhiteArmy
26-01-2020, 02:35 PM
Wonder if we could offer Whittaker in any domestic deals we may be looking at?

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 02:38 PM
Mcginn may not be good enough long term but short term he would be better than James at right back. A short term stop gap solution until summer while we strengthen other areas.


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Speedway
26-01-2020, 02:39 PM
I’ll go for 3 bang average signings and no special surprises this week.

yerauldda
26-01-2020, 02:39 PM
Paul McGinn makes perfect sense. Ross knows him well, he’s inexpensive. It’s a shame that he will now be the 5th senior right back at the club but outside of Naismith I don’t fancy any of the other options to play there.

Plus, he’s a McGinn. I’m behind this signing.

Sean1875
26-01-2020, 02:44 PM
Well just say what you’ve heard that no the point in the board, these I’ve heard this and that bit not saying what it is for me is bollox.

Yup. Attention seeking pish.


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B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 02:45 PM
No sure we need to be looking at a right back unless it is someone to significantly improve us. Even in the short term Paul McGinn doesn’t do that IMO. I’d rather the money was spent elsewhere.

500miles
26-01-2020, 02:52 PM
We've wanted Paul McGinn since Stubbs was manager. Very flexible in defence and midfield.

To be honest, Stephen was the brother I'd hope we'd target. Strong, composed leader in the middle of the park that Super John hated playing against.

superfurryhibby
26-01-2020, 02:52 PM
Wonder if we could offer Whittaker in any domestic deals we may be looking at?

The guy is out of contact here in the summer and will probably retire. Why would he go and who might want him ( no offence to Steven, who gives his all and was a very good player). If anyone wanted him, maybe at a lower league club, with coaching role, I’m pretty sure Hibs won’t stand in his way.

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Jim Goodwin saying that Hibs have shown interest in McGinn and the ball is in Paul's court. Says that Ross likes him and wants another right back after Naismith's injury.

Sounds like this may well be a done deal.

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 02:53 PM
We've got McGinn, super Paul McGinn...

thebausburst
26-01-2020, 02:56 PM
I know January is a difficult window, but are any of these rumours significantly better than what we already have.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Quick look for a St Mirren fans opinion..

“Shame to see Paul McGinn go, he's one of our best performers every week in whatever position he's asked. Like Hladky he's worth more keeping him for 6 months for free than a measly 5 figure sum just now.”

21sMay
26-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Yup. Attention seeking pish.


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Donuts like you are the reason I don't post info very often .
Why is it attention seeking pish ??

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 03:01 PM
I’m trying to be enthusiastic about Paul McGinn but I’m really struggling if I’m honest.

For me he would be coming in as back up, surely just sign a right back to be first choice and get rid of James and Whittikar.

Unless it’s a short term deal and we get Naismith permanently in the summer once he recovers from his injury.

hibs#1
26-01-2020, 03:04 PM
I’m trying to be enthusiastic about Paul McGinn but I’m really struggling if I’m honest.

For me he would be coming in as back up, surely just sign a right back to be first choice and get rid of James and Whittikar.

Unless it’s a short term deal and we get Naismith permanently in the summer once he recovers from his injury.

Cheap and can cover a few positions can he not?

500miles
26-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Is McGinn not a bit of a Duracell bunny? We're definitely missing that energy.

bigwheel
26-01-2020, 03:05 PM
I’m trying to be enthusiastic about Paul McGinn but I’m really struggling if I’m honest.

For me he would be coming in as back up, surely just sign a right back to be first choice and get rid of James and Whittikar.

Unless it’s a short term deal and we get Naismith permanently in the summer once he recovers from his injury.

I quite like him. Think he would be decent experienced addition...

bigwheel
26-01-2020, 03:06 PM
I’ll go for 3 bang average signings and no special surprises this week.

We are after Doidge’s three brothers ...you’ll be delighted

bingo70
26-01-2020, 03:07 PM
I’m trying to be enthusiastic about Paul McGinn but I’m really struggling if I’m honest.

For me he would be coming in as back up, surely just sign a right back to be first choice and get rid of James and Whittikar.

Unless it’s a short term deal and we get Naismith permanently in the summer once he recovers from his injury.

There’s three Mcginn brothers isn’t there? Is this the one that also plays in midfield? He was always annoyingly effective in midfield.

Not a signing that’ll sell season tickets but would probably be a decent enough addition to the squad.

Yawn

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 03:08 PM
Cheap and can cover a few positions can he not?

Can play in a few positions
Jack knows him, so he’ll know what he can do for Hibs

Mr Grieves
26-01-2020, 03:10 PM
What other positions does Mcginn play?

Borderhibbie76
26-01-2020, 03:11 PM
I’m trying to be enthusiastic about Paul McGinn but I’m really struggling if I’m honest.

For me he would be coming in as back up, surely just sign a right back to be first choice and get rid of James and Whittikar.

Unless it’s a short term deal and we get Naismith permanently in the summer once he recovers from his injury.

Have to agree mate massively underwhelmed tbh and why are we signing another right back when we are so short everywhere else ?

GreenNWhiteArmy
26-01-2020, 03:12 PM
I'd be asking gerrard to loan us Stewart, Jones or Barker

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Have to agree mate massively underwhelmed tbh and why are we signing another right back when we are so short everywhere else ?

He can play centre half too I think so covers us there. Not a glamorous signing but the manager knows him and obviously trusts his ability.

Torto7
26-01-2020, 03:15 PM
Right backs been nothing short of a disaster this season. I know very little of McGinn and I'd rather go with what we have than risk a 5/10 type of SPL player, if the club thinks hes better than that though then go for it. God knows how much this position has cost us over the season. If McGinn comes in then surely James is done?

I really hope we go and get Nisbet. Between the Griffiths and McNulty rumours we must be willing to spend a decent amount on a striker this week. I'm looking forward to this week with a sense of optimism.

Borderhibbie76
26-01-2020, 03:16 PM
He can play centre half too I think so covers us there. Not a glamorous signing but the manager knows him and obviously trusts his ability.

Fair enough but it's not exactly gonna capture the imagination of the fans is it??
There better be something a bit more exciting than this lined up before Fri and if he is signing another right back surely James has to be shown the door too

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 03:17 PM
There’s three Mcginn brothers isn’t there? Is this the one that also plays in midfield? He was always annoyingly effective in midfield.

Not a signing that’ll sell season tickets but would probably be a decent enough addition to the squad.

Yawn

Yeah three of them mate, think you’re thinking of Stephen McGinn who I agree is very effective in the centre of the park. Leader and good at breaking up play.

tonyrougier123
26-01-2020, 03:18 PM
Is McGinn not a bit of a Duracell bunny? We're definitely missing that energy.

Aye he is a very hard working honest player.

Exactly what we need at right back just now.

And from a cracking family! 👊💚

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 03:25 PM
I don’t think signing Paul McGinn with affect any other business we do. He is in the very affordable bracket and will be back up to Gray mostly (hopefully). He’s better than James.


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Speedway
26-01-2020, 03:26 PM
We are after Doidge’s three brothers ...you’ll be delighted

If we can swap Doidge for three bang average players, that’ll be miraculous progress.

Captain Trips
26-01-2020, 03:26 PM
I don’t think signing Paul McGinn with affect any other business we do. He is in the very affordable bracket and will be back up to Gray mostly (hopefully). He’s better than James.


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Indeed

This is likely a more opportunist signing rather than a major part of plan.

Speedway
26-01-2020, 03:27 PM
I don’t think signing Paul McGinn with affect any other business we do. He is in the very affordable bracket and will be back up to Gray mostly (hopefully). He’s better than James.


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Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

bigwheel
26-01-2020, 03:28 PM
If we can swap Doidge for three bang average players, that’ll be miraculous progress.

Hahaha..... nonsense - but funny [emoji106]

bingo70
26-01-2020, 03:29 PM
Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

We’re not getting Europe this season regardless.

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 03:30 PM
I don’t think signing Paul McGinn with affect any other business we do. He is in the very affordable bracket and will be back up to Gray mostly (hopefully). He’s better than James.


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Gray isn’t up to speed yet All my st Mirren mates think he would do well for us Can get to by line out in good cross and can play left back as well so cover / completion for Lewis as well And if needed can play centre half
Gray could also easily break down again



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Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 03:31 PM
Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

Much better than Van Zanten and Jack Ross brought Mcginn to St Mirren


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Dmas
26-01-2020, 03:33 PM
Gray isn’t up to speed yet All my st Mirren mates think he would do well for us Can get to by line out in good cross and can play left back as well so cover / completion for Lewis as well And if needed can play centre half
Gray could also easily break down again



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Most disappointing thing about this rumour is if it’s true Naismith won’t be back

04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 03:34 PM
Much better than Van Zanten and Jack Ross brought him to St Mirren


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Are you sure he did?

greenlex
26-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

We ain’t getting Europe. It’s about getting a settled way if playing, getting as many points on the board as we can and seeing where the cup takes us. McGinn is a good utility defender. He’d be a good addition to the squad period if not till the season end.

MWHIBBIES
26-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Much better than Van Zanten and Jack Ross brought him to St Mirren


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Van Zanten left St Mirren 3 years before Ross joined.

Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 03:35 PM
If we sign Mcginn hopefully its the end of James and we can get him off wage bill

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 03:36 PM
Are you sure he did?

According to my st Mirren mates he did but then left for Sunderland job so he didn’t play for him
Sorry meaning Brought McGinn to st Mirren


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MacGruber
26-01-2020, 03:36 PM
Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

Paul.McGinn is a steady eddie honest pro. Championship to bottom 6 player. Auxilliary squad player and probably no better than what we have as cover on the bench.

I know there is a need to buff out the squad but this feels pointless when we have options at right back already.

Presumably when Jack Ross was talking aboug 2 signings Paul McGinn wasn't one of them and he would be cheap cover in addition - like a Neil Eardsley (sp) Nellom or that ginger full back fella for Hearts that never got a game

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 03:38 PM
Are you sure he did?

Managed him at Dumbarton and he signed a pre contract for St Mirren when Ross was manager however I don’t think he played a game for him there as Ross went to Sunderland.

Fwiw reading twitter etc St Mirren fans really same to rate him, seen a couple of comments about how consistent he is and he’s been there best player the past 18 months and would be sorry to see him leave.

jeffers
26-01-2020, 03:44 PM
Van Zanten left St Mirren 3 years before Ross joined.

I think he was talking about McGinn not Van Zanten.

Sean1875
26-01-2020, 03:44 PM
Donuts like you are the reason I don't post info very often .
Why is it attention seeking pish ??

“oh look at me look at me I know inside information but no I’m not going to tell anyone”

If that’s not attention seeking pish I don’t know what is.


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04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 03:44 PM
I think he was talking about McGinn not Van Zanten.

That's where i got confused that he was meaning Ross signed Van Zanten

tonyrougier123
26-01-2020, 03:45 PM
Managed him at Dumbarton and he signed a pre contract for St Mirren when Ross was manager however I don’t think he played a game for him there as Ross went to Sunderland.

Fwiw reading twitter etc St Mirren fans really same to rate him, seen a couple of comments about how consistent he is and he’s been there best player the past 18 months and would be sorry to see him leave.
I honestly think he is a cracking shout for us if he fancies coming to us.as good a signing in there that knows the setup we could get in.

neil7908
26-01-2020, 03:45 PM
Definitely not convinced that the answer to our aging, creaking defence is a 29 year right back who's been kicking about the lower rungs of the SPL for years.

I'm also getting a bit tired of the "he can play in multiple positions" chat. I understand for a club our size a bit flexibility is useful but we seem to have a few players like James and Whittaker who end up covering positions but just not very well.

McGinn doesn't strike me as the kind of player a club chasing 3rd l/4th next season should be making.

madhatter
26-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Is Nisbet looking like it might happen? Already see impact of Boyce at Hearts. We need a ruthless goal scorer. Kamberi is finished for me - far too inconsistent and not the same player.

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 03:46 PM
I think he was talking about McGinn not Van Zanten.

Yep I was


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Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 03:47 PM
Has it not got a bit of the David Van Zanten’s about it.

Our aim is Europe and for me, our signings should reflect that. Paul McGinn as a signing with an eye towards Europe?

I think we never intended to have to buy a right back but Ross is realising that the ones we have are either pretty dreadful, injured or injury prone. It’s a stop gap signing till the summer when the problem can be properly addressed. A more expensive option might have taken budget away from the other signings we want to make.


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Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 03:48 PM
Paul.McGinn is a steady eddie honest pro. Championship to bottom 6 player. Auxilliary squad player and probably no better than what we have as cover on the bench.

I know there is a need to buff out the squad but this feels pointless when we have options at right back already.

Presumably when Jack Ross was talking aboug 2 signings Paul McGinn wasn't one of them and he would be cheap cover in addition - like a Neil Eardsley (sp) Nellom or that ginger full back fella for Hearts that never got a game

What options do we have at right back?


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madhatter
26-01-2020, 03:48 PM
I think we never intended to have to buy a right back but Ross is realising that the ones we have are either pretty dreadful, injured or injury prone. It’s a stop gap signing till the summer when the problem can be properly addressed. A more expensive option might have taken budget away from the other signings we want to make.


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McGinn leaving St Mirren for a 6 month contract or something? Don’t understand this stop gap until the summer. He will get at least a 2 year contract.

Haymaker
26-01-2020, 03:49 PM
yip. you are right and b prepared for a surprise!

:hyper

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 03:50 PM
McGinn leaving St Mirren for a 6 month contract or something? Don’t understand this stop gap until the summer. He will get at least a 2 year contract.

He’ll get 18 months

JimBHibees
26-01-2020, 03:50 PM
I don’t think signing Paul McGinn with affect any other business we do. He is in the very affordable bracket and will be back up to Gray mostly (hopefully). He’s better than James.


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Agree seems a sensible low cost signing and a player the manager knows assume James will leave in this window. Good athletic player like his attitude.

sean04
26-01-2020, 03:56 PM
A lot of st Mirren fans not happy he’s leaving. Saying would be a big loss

MacGruber
26-01-2020, 03:58 PM
What options do we have at right back?


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Gray, James, Whittaker, 3 at the back and Boyle wing back. Block. There's options.

If you want to say none of those options are good enough becasue of injury/age/ability then that would be reason to sign a quality right back. It's no reason to add Paul McGinn as another squad member - just my opinion

Blaster
26-01-2020, 04:00 PM
Gray, James, Whittaker, 3 at the back and Boyle wing back. Block. There's options.

If you want to say none of those options are good enough becasue of injury/age/ability then that would be reason to sign a quality right back. It's no reason to add Paul McGinn as another squad member - just my opinion

Hopefully it means James will leave

S4uzee
26-01-2020, 04:01 PM
A lot of st Mirren fans not happy he’s leaving. Saying would be a big loss

Aye maybe for St.Mirren but he’s not going to improve Hibs

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:02 PM
Gray, James, Whittaker, 3 at the back and Boyle wing back. Block. There's options.

If you want to say none of those options are good enough becasue of injury/age/ability then that would be reason to sign a quality right back. It's no reason to add Paul McGinn as another squad member - just my opinion

Agree. Paul McGin won’t offer anything that those currently on the books can’t. And I’m one that thinks the position does need improved, but in the summer with a proper long term option.

Peevemor
26-01-2020, 04:04 PM
For what it's worth I've liked the look of Paul McGinn any time he's played against us, but I'm not sure he'd be a priority for me this week.

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 04:05 PM
Gray, James, Whittaker, 3 at the back and Boyle wing back. Block. There's options.

If you want to say none of those options are good enough becasue of injury/age/ability then that would be reason to sign a quality right back. It's no reason to add Paul McGinn as another squad member - just my opinion

But if the long term plan is to sign Naismith then it makes sense to bring in McGinn for 6 months? He’s better than James and Whittaker and we are lucky if Gray plays 1 game in 4 these days. I’m all for spending money and going for quality but on this occasion when the club have plans to recruit in other areas and were not expecting to sign a right back this makes sense.
If all we do this week is sign McGinn then don’t worry, I will be doing plenty moaning myself.[emoji6]


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bigwheel
26-01-2020, 04:06 PM
Aye maybe for St.Mirren but he’s not going to improve Hibs

People said the same about David Gray signing ..that worked out alright ..McGinn was actively being considered a season ago..and our manager who knows him well clearly thinks differently. Will trust this judgement

S4uzee
26-01-2020, 04:08 PM
People said the same about David Gray signing ..that worked out alright ..McGinn was actively being considered a season ago..and our manager who knows him well clearly thinks differently. Will trust this judgement

I personally think he’s poor and not a player we should even be looking at, just my opinion

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:08 PM
I was trying to be positive when I thought it was the brother that was quite good and once played for Watford.

I really hope we’ve got some other more ambitious and exciting signings lined up for the rest of the window.

Alex Trager
26-01-2020, 04:10 PM
Is Nisbet looking like it might happen? Already see impact of Boyce at Hearts. We need a ruthless goal scorer. Kamberi is finished for me - far too inconsistent and not the same player.

Eager for this to happen.
Really like the sound of the boy. Hopefully anyway.

No one seems to know on here anyway!

I do wonder what this surprising signing was going to be as well?

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:10 PM
I was trying to be positive when I thought it was the brother that was quite good and once played for Watford.

I really hope we’ve got some other more ambitious and exciting signings lined up for the rest of the window.

It feels very like a signing from years gone by for me. Not the type that is going to kick you on and really improve you. Like Naismith in that regard for me. Hopefully we have some more exciting moves lined up.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 04:10 PM
This is our fifth right back of the season. Some achievement.

BILLYHIBS
26-01-2020, 04:13 PM
Announce Kevin Nisbet!

500miles
26-01-2020, 04:15 PM
Announce Kevin Nisbet!

Hope or knowledge?

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:16 PM
It feels very like a signing from years gone by for me. Not the type that is going to kick you on and really improve you. Like Naismith in that regard for me. Hopefully we have some more exciting moves lined up.

In many ways it’s very similar to more recent signings too.

Dull, uninspiring, boring, lacking ambition and just beige. Every aspect of Hibs is so boring the now, even our signing targets are dull.

Might do a job though I suppose 🥱

I know it’s not a priority position but why bother, it’s such a meh signing I’m no sure I see the point at all. Between Gray, Whittaker and James surely that’s enough to see us ticking over until the summer.

we are hibs
26-01-2020, 04:17 PM
The real question is would McGinn be a Jack Ross signing or recruitment team one?...

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:17 PM
A lot of st Mirren fans not happy he’s leaving. Saying would be a big loss


He's a decent player and will improve us, no doubt about that.

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:19 PM
He's a decent player and will improve us, no doubt about that.

I think there is a doubt about it. He’s spent his career in Scotland in poor teams and relegation battles. Doubtful he’d improve us and not going to shift season tickets, that’s for sure.

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:21 PM
In many ways it’s very similar to more recent signings too.

Dull, uninspiring, boring, lacking ambition and just beige. Every aspect of Hibs is so boring the now, even our signing targets are dull.

Might do a job though I suppose 🥱

I know it’s not a priority position but why bother, it’s such a meh signing I’m no sure I see the point at all. Between Gray, Whittaker and James surely that’s enough to see us ticking over until the summer.

Agree. It would be good to see a bit of ambition and imagination.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:21 PM
I think there is a doubt about it. He’s spent his career in Scotland in poor teams and relegation battles. Doubtful he’d improve us and not going to shift season tickets, that’s for sure.

Correct.

If he was any good why have no better teams taking a chance on him before now?

If we literally never had anybody else to play that position then fair enough but we’ve still got another 3 options, even if one of them did have a tough time yesterday.

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 04:22 PM
If Mcginn can be signed and James moved on and the net result is no cost to us, surely that is good business? Not sure we will manage that but I hope that’s what we are trying.


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Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:22 PM
I think there is a doubt about it. He’s spent his career in Scotland in poor teams and relegation battles. Doubtful he’d improve us and not going to shift season tickets, that’s for sure.


John McGinn spent 3 years at St Mirren before he signed for us?

Paul played for Chesterfield as well.

BILLYHIBS
26-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Hope or knowledge?

Hope but just noticed The Rangers also interested so after today’s poor result for them all hope is lost

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:24 PM
If Mcginn can be signed and James moved on and the net result is no cost to us, surely that is good business? Not sure we will manage that but I hope that’s what we are trying.


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That is different and have an element of sense to it, if it was just a short term deal. Can’t see us getting rid of James this window though, in which case signing McGinn would be pointless IMO.

Keyser Sauzee
26-01-2020, 04:25 PM
John McGinn spent 3 years at St Mirren before he signed for us?

Paul played for Chesterfield as well.

McGinn was around 21 when he signed, Paul is almost 30, there is 100% a doubt wether he improves us.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:25 PM
John McGinn spent 3 years at St Mirren before he signed for us?

Paul played for Chesterfield as well.

John McGinn was about 21 or 22 when he joined us, it’s a bit different.

Chesterfield are *****.

We’re looking at signing a 31 year old player that isnt getting a game for St Mirren and hasn’t ever been any good in his whole career.

Surely alarm bells have got to be ringing?

Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 04:26 PM
I think Ross maybe decided after James performance yesterday that he cant trust him.

Lets be honest David Gray isnt going to play every week until end of season. If he doesn't rate James then Mcginn makes sense until end of season. A 18 month deal wouldnt be a good idea imo.

A stop gap signing

Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 04:26 PM
John McGinn was about 21 or 22 when he joined us, it’s a bit different.

Chesterfield are *****.

We’re looking at signing a 31 year old player that isnt getting a game for St Mirren and hasn’t ever been any good in his whole career.

Surely alarm bells have got to be ringing?

Hes 29

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:26 PM
John McGinn spent 3 years at St Mirren before he signed for us?

Paul played for Chesterfield as well.

John McGinn played a hundred games in the league above the one we were in at the time. He’d also won the league cup. He was a regular for Scotland 21s and at the perfect age to develop. No comparison between the two.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:28 PM
If Mcginn can be signed and James moved on and the net result is no cost to us, surely that is good business? Not sure we will manage that but I hope that’s what we are trying.


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Ross said he’s not expecting anyone else to leave so I’ve got my doubts if we’re trying to shift James out.

If he does and McGinn is a replacement for him then I’m ok with that.

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:28 PM
John McGinn was about 21 or 22 when he joined us, it’s a bit different.

Chesterfield are *****.

We’re looking at signing a 31 year old player that isnt getting a game for St Mirren and hasn’t ever been any good in his whole career.

Surely alarm bells have got to be ringing?


He's not 30 until October. FFS why all the slagging? He's no even signed? :dunno:

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:28 PM
Hes 29

Sorry, it’s the older brother that’s 31

Same point still applies though

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 04:30 PM
He's not 30 until October. FFS why all the slagging? He's no even signed? :dunno:

You reckon there is no doubt would improve us. Others simply disagree.

Keyser Sauzee
26-01-2020, 04:30 PM
He's not 30 until October. FFS why all the slagging? He's no even signed? :dunno:

U said he would improve us, no doubt about it, which is complete nonsense.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:30 PM
He's not 30 until October. FFS why all the slagging? He's no even signed? :dunno:

Because it’s an Internet forum to discuss things to do with hibs and tbh I think this boy sounds like a poor and pointless signing.

You’re right about the age thing, apologies, it’s the older brother who is in his thirties.

EVENTUALLY
26-01-2020, 04:30 PM
Hope but just noticed The Rangers also interested so after today’s poor result for them all hope is lost

We should sign Nisbet. He is a good footballer who knows were the goals are. He's very right footed and could do with losing a wee bit weight and getting some sprint coaching. I'd go after him first then set about other areas...Defensive Midfielder and Full Backs.

CMac1988
26-01-2020, 04:31 PM
Don't know much about Paul. As it stands though Whittaker is past it (sorry), Gray is a shadow of his former self and James I'm still not sold on.

Crazy to have so many right backs picking up a wage and be short elsewhere though. Time will tell.

Still looking for that inspired signing. A player who we know will improve us. I was delighted to see Omeonga and it was a good start but things are a bit stagnant. Hibs has an air of mundane about it right now and I'd like to see some real progress with respects to quality. I get that it's only the January transfer window but the Club need to reinvigorate the support.

Gmack7
26-01-2020, 04:33 PM
with the position St Mirren are in are they likely to let him go cheaply? i cant see us paying much

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 04:33 PM
Don't know much about Paul. As it stands though Whittaker is past it (sorry), Gray is a shadow of his former self and James I'm still not sold on.

Crazy to have so many right backs picking up a wage and be short elsewhere though. Time will tell.

Still looking for that inspired signing. A player who we know will improve us. I was delighted to see Omeonga and it was a good start but things are a bit stagnant. Hibs has an air of mundane about it right now and I'd like to see some real progress with respects to quality. I get that it's only the January transfer window but the Club need to reinvigorate the support.

James may be away if we are bringing in another right back now, 4 fit right backs on the book is a bit much.

A Hi-Bee
26-01-2020, 04:34 PM
We should sign Nisbet. He is a good footballer who knows were the goals are. He's very right footed and could do with losing a wee bit weight and getting some sprint coaching. I'd go after him first then set about other areas...Defensive Midfielder and Full Backs.

We should sign lots of players but we wont/cant we are in danger of just going back to being boring old Hibs.

04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 04:34 PM
Hes 29

Correct it's not difficult to check that out

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 04:35 PM
James may be away if we are bringing in another right back now, 4 fit right backs on the book is a bit much.

Who are the 4

SHODAN
26-01-2020, 04:39 PM
A 29 year old right back who isn't getting a regular game for St Mirren would be a deeply uninspiring signing.

SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 04:40 PM
“oh look at me look at me I know inside information but no I’m not going to tell anyone”

If that’s not attention seeking pish I don’t know what is.


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Agree with this, contributing nothing to the board posting ***** like that and I’d rather he keeps up not posting his snippets for me and so called donuts like you. 👍

A Hi-Bee
26-01-2020, 04:44 PM
Agree with this, contributing nothing to the board posting ***** like that and I’d rather he keeps up not posting his snippets for me and so called donuts like you. 👍

Shirley he is entitled to post what he wants it is a football forum after all.

AFKA5814_Hibs
26-01-2020, 04:45 PM
A 29 year old right back who isn't getting a regular game for St Mirren would be a deeply uninspiring signing.

He's started every game for St Mirren this season until today.

ancient hibee
26-01-2020, 04:45 PM
The first signing should be to provide more dig in the middle of the park.It's been missing all season and Omeanga can't do it alone.

Tyler Durden
26-01-2020, 04:46 PM
Whoever scouted Tom James should be getting the sack. What a disastrous signing.

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 04:48 PM
Who are the 4

Gray, Whittaker, James and then McGinn if he signs.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 04:49 PM
Correct it's not difficult to check that out

It’s also not difficult to read all the posts on the thread, if you did you’d have seen me explaining I got mixed up with the older brother who is 31.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 04:49 PM
A 29 year old right back who isn't getting a regular game for St Mirren would be a deeply uninspiring signing.

He’s been a regular all season and St Mirren fans seem to rate him highly.

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:50 PM
He's started every game for St Mirren this season until today.


He never played in the cup tie v Broxburn, was on the bench. Not cup tied is a plus assuming we get past United. He could even play V united assuming we signed him tomorrow? Is that correct?

A Hi-Bee
26-01-2020, 04:50 PM
The first signing should be to provide more dig in the middle of the park.It's been missing all season and Omeanga can't do it alone.

We dont need another groundsman.

Bobby Moore
26-01-2020, 04:52 PM
Fraser Murray to Dundee on loan apparantley.

Peevemor
26-01-2020, 04:52 PM
He never played in the cup tie v Broxburn, was on the bench. Not cup tied is a plus assuming we get past United. He could even play V united assuming we signed him tomorrow? Is that correct?From what I understand, only players that were eligible for the initial tie can play in the replay.

Heisenberg
26-01-2020, 04:52 PM
The first signing should be to provide more dig in the middle of the park.It's been missing all season and Omeanga can't do it alone.

It’ll be utterly ridiculous if we don’t end up signing a defensive midfielder. Surely has to be priority number one.

04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 04:53 PM
A 29 year old right back who isn't getting a regular game for St Mirren would be a deeply uninspiring signing.

Why are we just making things up now regarding regular appearances?

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 04:53 PM
He never played in the cup tie v Broxburn, was on the bench. Not cup tied is a plus assuming we get past United. He could even play V united assuming we signed him tomorrow? Is that correct?

Any idea whether he was injured for the cup game? If not then maybe this deal has been worked on for a little while.

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:53 PM
From what I understand, only players that were eligible for the initial tie can play in the replay.


Cheers. :aok:

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:55 PM
Any idea whether he was injured for the cup game? If not then maybe this deal has been worked on for a little while.


He was on the bench in the cup game and on the bench today. Unused in both matches.

jeffers
26-01-2020, 04:55 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.

madhatter
26-01-2020, 04:55 PM
Is this the sort of signing that will get people renewing their ST and contributing to HSL? Removing sentiment, we're in the position of having to acquire so many RBs in one season because we've decided to become a retirement home. I like Hibs looking after legends of the club but we've been sorely hit hard for it this season which in turn will lurch into next season.

At least 3 players on the books that cannot play more than 20 games in a season (at the very most).

GibbytheHibby2
26-01-2020, 04:55 PM
A 29 year old right back who isn't getting a regular game for St Mirren would be a deeply uninspiring signing.

Jim Leighton was a 35 year old who couldn’t get a game at Dundee (or Sheff utd on loan). Martin Boyle wasn’t playing regularly at Dundee. There will be plenty other examples too. I accept there will be plenty examples that don’t work out.

I’ve always like Paul McGinn. Whittaker and james are slow to recover. McGinn’s style is much more similar to SDG. I’ve no problem with him signing.

AFKA5814_Hibs
26-01-2020, 04:56 PM
He never played in the cup tie v Broxburn, was on the bench. Not cup tied is a plus assuming we get past United. He could even play V united assuming we signed him tomorrow? Is that correct?

I think to play in the replay you had to be registered to play in the first game. I also thought if a player was on the bench they're still cup-tied?

ancient hibee
26-01-2020, 04:56 PM
We dont need another groundsman.

That's your opinion.

GibbytheHibby2
26-01-2020, 04:57 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.

👍

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 04:58 PM
He was on the bench in the cup game and on the bench today. Unused in both matches.

Him and John will be making history when they are the only brothers to win the Scottish Cup with the same club.

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:58 PM
I think to play in the replay you had to be registered to play in the first game. I also thought if a player was on the bench they're still cup-tied?


Thought it was only if you actually played? :dunno:

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 04:59 PM
He was on the bench in the cup game and on the bench today. Unused in both matches.

Came on in the 90 th minute to wave goodbye to the Fans me thinks


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sleeping giant
26-01-2020, 04:59 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.

Agree with that.

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 04:59 PM
Him and John will be making history when they are the only brothers to win the Scottish Cup with the same club.


The De Boer brothers? Did they win it with Rangers?

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 05:00 PM
Came on in the 90 th minute to wave goodbye to the Fans me thinks


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Today? Missed that. Cheers.

04Sauzee
26-01-2020, 05:01 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.
I agree with you 100%

Tyler Durden
26-01-2020, 05:01 PM
Is this the sort of signing that will get people renewing their ST and contributing to HSL? Removing sentiment, we're in the position of having to acquire so many RBs in one season because we've decided to become a retirement home. I like Hibs looking after legends of the club but we've been sorely hit hard for it this season which in turn will lurch into next season.

At least 3 players on the books that cannot play more than 20 games in a season (at the very most).

We’re in this position because we signed James and he’s not good enough.

A Hi-Bee
26-01-2020, 05:02 PM
That's your opinion.

Yes an we are all entitled to one eh! (Opinion that is)

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 05:02 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.

I get the good, solid pro stuff. I don’t think that’s what we need to improve us at the moment though. We’ve plenty good, solid pros kicking about. We need some quality in positions that are lacking. If we had a young, exciting team that needed a good solid pro or two to help them then I’d be fine with us signing a good solid pro. Just don’t think this type of signing benefits us just now.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 05:03 PM
I don’t have a problem if JR wants to sign McGinn, a good solid player. Players keep getting written off as not good enough to get us in the top 4, but not every player needs to be a star. Good solid pros providing a sound foundation with players like Allan providing that bit of quality.

In isolation I don’t have a problem with us signing Paul Mcginn.

My problem with is that we’re being told we need to let players go before we can sign players, both our last two managers have said that, and we’re approaching the end of a second uninspiring transfer window (I’m sure the usual suspect will jump on the word uninspiring), If our transfer activity is limited because of squad numbers why are we trying to sign another right back when we already have three that can play in that position?

The money being used for Mcginn should be getting used for a more important area IMO.

Imo it’s an unnecessary waste of a wage at a time when we apparently don’t have much cash to waste.

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 05:04 PM
For me we should be recruiting more players from within Scotland/played in Scotland
Aberdeen have been successful at this. Looking at our squad just now, can anyone saw that Boyle and Daz haven’t been successful at Hibs. Must be a lot more out there, that would love to play for Hibs
Naismith and Allan have done just fine too. I’m sure JR will be looking at this going forward

Haymaker
26-01-2020, 05:05 PM
The De Boer brothers? Did they win it with Rangers?

Frank didn't win it at. Ronald won two.

Smartie
26-01-2020, 05:05 PM
You’re not McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don’t think Jack Ross understands
We wanted Stubbsy’s man
But got “the ither wan”
You’re not Super John McGinn

AFKA5814_Hibs
26-01-2020, 05:07 PM
Thought it was only if you actually played? :dunno:

Your right. The rule was changed a few years back.

J-C
26-01-2020, 05:07 PM
Gray, Whittaker, James and then McGinn if he signs.


Gray - injured most of the season and hardly played, nearing the end of his playing career with injuries catching him up.

Whittaker - only still here to be a back up, doing his badges, coaching the kids and a great pro for the younger players to look up to.

James - not good enough and should be out the club by now

McGinn - a solid pro who has a lot of good SPFL experience, James can't be trusted and neither can Gray's fitness, we don't have bags of money to get a top notch RB and we don't have a good enough youngster to do the job. He won't cost a lot and with be fairly dependable.

Unseen work
26-01-2020, 05:07 PM
I’m hoping the 2 signings mentioned are of real quality and go straight into the starting 11.

Add in Nisbet who I think would be a terrific bit of business and McGinn and it would be a very good window.

Does anyone know or willing to say who the surprise signing is that was mentioned a couple of pages back?

I think we really need quality in to make us really kick on. Hearts looked really good today and with Boyce and their other signings I can see them climbing the league quick. I don’t want the post we done on twitter after our last derby win to come back and bite us.

HoboHarry
26-01-2020, 05:08 PM
You’re not McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don’t think Jack Ross understands
We wanted Stubbsy’s man
But got “the ither wan”
You’re not Super John McGinn

:faf::faf::faf: Outstanding :faf::faf::faf:

Borderhibbie76
26-01-2020, 05:10 PM
I’m hoping the 2 signings mentioned are of real quality and go straight into the starting 11.

Add in Nisbet who I think would be a terrific bit of business and McGinn and it would be a very good window.

Does anyone know or willing to say who the surprise signing is that was mentioned a couple of pages back?

I think we really need quality in to make us really kick on. Hearts looked really good today and with Boyce and their other signings I can see them climbing the league quick. I don’t want the post we done on twitter after our last derby win to come back and bite us.

I think the surprise signing is McGinn mate...

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 05:14 PM
Gray - injured most of the season and hardly played, nearing the end of his playing career with injuries catching him up.

Whittaker - only still here to be a back up, doing his badges, coaching the kids and a great pro for the younger players to look up to.

James - not good enough and should be out the club by now

McGinn - a solid pro who has a lot of good SPFL experience, James can't be trusted and neither can Gray's fitness, we don't have bags of money to get a top notch RB and we don't have a good enough youngster to do the job. He won't cost a lot and with be fairly dependable.

I'd be happy with Gray, Naismith and McGinn as our three options for next season.

MyJo
26-01-2020, 05:14 PM
I'd be happy with Gray, Naismith and McGinn as our three options for next season.

McGinn can also play at centre half

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 05:15 PM
McGinn can also play at centre half

Then even better.

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 05:15 PM
I'd be happy with Gray, Naismith and McGinn as our three options for next season.

I doubt we’ll go into next season with 3 right backs

Hibeesmad
26-01-2020, 05:16 PM
I doubt we’ll go into next season with 3 right backs

Why's that?

sleeping giant
26-01-2020, 05:17 PM
McGinn can also play at centre half

And left back.

EVENTUALLY
26-01-2020, 05:18 PM
I’m hoping the 2 signings mentioned are of real quality and go straight into the starting 11.

Add in Nisbet who I think would be a terrific bit of business and McGinn and it would be a very good window.

Does anyone know or willing to say who the surprise signing is that was mentioned a couple of pages back?

I think we really need quality in to make us really kick on. Hearts looked really good today and with Boyce and their other signings I can see them climbing the league quick. I don’t want the post we done on twitter after our last derby win to come back and bite us.

Wow, just wow.
They ran hard and tried harder than in previous games. Real lack of quality, creativity and guile.

Billy Whizz
26-01-2020, 05:18 PM
Why's that?

It’s usually 2 players for every position

Hibbyradge
26-01-2020, 05:18 PM
I like that we're trying to sign McGinn.

Every signing we make can't be a superstar, but we need reliability and that's what he offers.

I'm sure that there will be other players coming in before the deadline and maybe they'll get folk's juices flowing.

I have a good feeling about Hibs under Jack Ross and I'm happy to trust his judgement. I never felt that with Paul Heckingbottom.

Since452
26-01-2020, 05:21 PM
I like that we're trying to sign McGinn.

Every signing we make can't be a superstar, but we need reliability and that's what he offers.

I'm sure that there will be other players coming in before the deadline and maybe they'll get folk's juices flowing.

I have a good feeling about Hibs under Jack Ross and I'm happy to trust his judgement. I never felt that with Paul Heckingbottom.

Me too

Ronniekirk
26-01-2020, 05:22 PM
McGinn can also play at centre half

Snd Left back


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Weegreenman
26-01-2020, 05:23 PM
I’d take McGinn.

jeffers
26-01-2020, 05:24 PM
I get the good, solid pro stuff. I don’t think that’s what we need to improve us at the moment though. We’ve plenty good, solid pros kicking about. We need some quality in positions that are lacking. If we had a young, exciting team that needed a good solid pro or two to help them then I’d be fine with us signing a good solid pro. Just don’t think this type of signing benefits us just now.


In isolation I don’t have a problem with us signing Paul Mcginn.

My problem with is that we’re being told we need to let players go before we can sign players, both our last two managers have said that, and we’re approaching the end of a second uninspiring transfer window (I’m sure the usual suspect will jump on the word uninspiring), If our transfer activity is limited because of squad numbers why are we trying to sign another right back when we already have three that can play in that position?

The money being used for Mcginn should be getting used for a more important area IMO.

Imo it’s an unnecessary waste of a wage at a time when we apparently don’t have much cash to waste.

McGinn is a decent player, rated by his current fans and has previously worked with JR. Can play in more than one position, one of them being a position we are struggling with at the moment. We may have three players who can play right back but of those only one is good enough and he is still not fully fit. I’d say he is what we need now. If he was the sum total of our signings this window I’d be disappointed but we have already signed Bogdan and Omeonga two very good players and I expect us to sign another couple.

I suspect the reason we need to let players go first is because our summer signings are not good enough but were brought in on wages a lot of our fans refuse to believe we are paying.

Nicho87
26-01-2020, 05:24 PM
After watching James yesterday, you can tell he’s not good enough and out his depth.

McGinn on a 6 month deal with an option of another year. Believe in JR.

He’s started culling the dead wood. Time to back him if he sees fit.

Percy Vere
26-01-2020, 05:26 PM
Who are the 4

Gray
Naismith
James
Number 4 is Mcginn if signed
Whittaker can also play rb

AlbertK86
26-01-2020, 05:29 PM
He's started every game for St Mirren this season until today.

And probably only never started due to his head being elsewhere!!

But hey somebody decides that means he’s not started regularly. .net at its worst


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NC1875
26-01-2020, 05:29 PM
McGinn in and James out would be good business.

SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 05:29 PM
After watching James yesterday, you can tell he’s not good enough and out his depth.

McGinn on a 6 month deal with an option of another year. Believe in JR.

He’s started culling the dead wood. Time to back him if he sees fit.

Boys no played for months. Was he any worse than gray coming on against united and during the week?

Robbo6-2
26-01-2020, 05:30 PM
Boys no played for months. Was he any worse than gray coming on against united and during the week?

Yes, he was totally out of his depth. He was slightly better in 2nd half but hes never good enough

hfc rd
26-01-2020, 05:30 PM
You’re not McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don’t think Jack Ross understands
We wanted Stubbsy’s man
But got “the ither wan”
You’re not Super John McGinn

😂😂😂😂

Brilliant!

Col2
26-01-2020, 05:30 PM
You’re not McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don’t think Jack Ross understands
We wanted Stubbsy’s man
But got “the ither wan”
You’re not Super John McGinn

😂😂😂

Since452
26-01-2020, 05:33 PM
James was regarded as a bit of a coup when we got him. I'm not going to lambast him after 90 minutes after months out, 45 of which were good

Percy Vere
26-01-2020, 05:33 PM
Get JC back!!

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 05:37 PM
Frank didn't win it at. Ronald won two.

McStay brothers both won it.


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Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 05:39 PM
Boys no played for months. Was he any worse than gray coming on against united and during the week?

Yes, he was a lot worse than that.


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B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 05:39 PM
McGinn is a decent player, rated by his current fans and has previously worked with JR. Can play in more than one position, one of them being a position we are struggling with at the moment. We may have three players who can play right back but of those only one is good enough and he is still not fully fit. I’d say he is what we need now. If he was the sum total of our signings this window I’d be disappointed but we have already signed Bogdan and Omeonga two very good players and I expect us to sign another couple.

I suspect the reason we need to let players go first is because our summer signings are not good enough but were brought in on wages a lot of our fans refuse to believe we are paying.

As I said, I just don’t think he improves us. I think the position needs addressed but longer term and I don’t think bringing someone in to see us through to the summer when we have players who can see us through to the summer really helps us. Unless we are getting rid of James.

Big week coming up for the club IMO. I actually think that we’ve done all right in terms of getting players out this month. We need to do something that will excite people and/or show a bit of ambition. People are, rightly or wrongly, a bit sceptical about the new owner and if we don’t have a positive end to the window it’s not going to entice people to buy season tickets.

J-C
26-01-2020, 05:39 PM
I'd be happy with Gray, Naismith and McGinn as our three options for next season.


I would say there's not a great deal between McGinn and Naismith, one or the other.

J-C
26-01-2020, 05:41 PM
James was regarded as a bit of a coup when we got him. I'm not going to lambast him after 90 minutes after months out, 45 of which were good

REALLY? a RB relegated from the English leagues with Yeovil a bit of a coup :faf:

B.H.F.C
26-01-2020, 05:41 PM
James was regarded as a bit of a coup when we got him. I'm not going to lambast him after 90 minutes after months out, 45 of which were good

I think people are, generally, looking at his contribution (or lack of) since he arrived last summer. A few reasonable performances but, overall, another disappointing signing.

SMAXXA
26-01-2020, 05:42 PM
Yes, he was a lot worse than that.


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Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man

Since90+2
26-01-2020, 05:43 PM
James has one of the strangest running styles i've seen. It's like he runs at 40% capacity all the time and can't be arsed.

Since452
26-01-2020, 05:43 PM
REALLY? a RB relegated from the English leagues with Yeovil a bit of a coup :faf:

Was he not going to sign for West Brom but failed his medical?

Ozyhibby
26-01-2020, 05:44 PM
Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man

Gray isn’t bullet proof. I think he needs replaced.


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jeffers
26-01-2020, 05:44 PM
As I said, I just don’t think he improves us. I think the position needs addressed but longer term and I don’t think bringing someone in to see us through to the summer when we have players who can see us through to the summer really helps us. Unless we are getting rid of James.

Big week coming up for the club IMO. I actually think that we’ve done all right in terms of getting players out this month. We need to do something that will excite people and/or show a bit of ambition. People are, rightly or wrongly, a bit sceptical about the new owner and if we don’t have a positive end to the window it’s not going to entice people to buy season tickets.

I don’t think Gray can be relied upon, I think McGinn is better than the other options so on that basis does improve us. I’d definitely be looking to offload James.

Agree totally with your 2nd paragraph.

J-C
26-01-2020, 05:45 PM
Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man

TBF to Gray, he probably wasn't expected to be playing so soon after getting himself fit, the Naismith injury has crewed up the plans.

tamig
26-01-2020, 05:47 PM
He's started every game for St Mirren this season until today.

I know. Some really lazy comments on here about Paul McGinn. And disrespectful too. I’ll trust Jack Ross to judge if he reckons the boy can do a job for us.

Since452
26-01-2020, 05:47 PM
I know. Some really lazy comments on here about Paul McGinn. And disrespectful too. I’ll trust Jack Ross to judge if he reckons the boy can do a job for us.

Snobbery imo

sean04
26-01-2020, 05:47 PM
Aye maybe for St.Mirren but he’s not going to improve Hibs

Some managers have players that they really like. Ovb was a favourite for him at st Mirren. Writing off players before they have signed. Maybe not a glamour signing but I’m reading comments from st Mirren fans saying he’s a big loss, most consistent player. Gee the guy a chance. Last Mcginn we signed from st Mirren turned out no bad

jeffers
26-01-2020, 05:50 PM
Watch Dundee Uniteds equaliser in the second half Gray doesn’t cover himself I glory but he’s bulletproof, James is a Hecky signing so has a target on his back. Give the lad a break man

Gray is far from bulletproof, but fans recognise he’s only just coming back from injury and is well off match sharpness.

James last game was a shocker against Celtic, his style is to back off and back off, doesn’t tackle, doesn’t overlap and isn’t very fast. I’d suggest any stick he’s getting isn’t just on the back of yesterday’s performance.

J-C
26-01-2020, 05:50 PM
Was he not going to sign for West Brom but failed his medical?


Failing to agree personal term, it was Aug 2018 and Yeovil were still League 2, whatever happened between then and now he isn't anywhere near what WBA seen, he looks a poor slow RB with a decent free kick ability.

bingo70
26-01-2020, 05:52 PM
I know. Some really lazy comments on here about Paul McGinn. And disrespectful too. I’ll trust Jack Ross to judge if he reckons the boy can do a job for us.

So are you not going to have an opinion on any possible signings?

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 05:55 PM
That Shrewsbury midfielder Laurent is worth a punt by the way. Excellent today.

Edinburgh Green
26-01-2020, 06:02 PM
Yes, he was totally out of his depth. He was slightly better in 2nd half but hes never good enough

I only watched the 2nd half and thought he looked poor, so can only imagine how bad he was in the 1st half!

Lago
26-01-2020, 06:04 PM
That Shrewsbury midfielder Laurent is worth a punt by the way. Excellent today.
Agree, but tell me if you can what kind of money will he be on ?

Hermit Crab
26-01-2020, 06:06 PM
Agree, but tell me if you can what kind of money will he be on ?


None of us can answer that. Its a bull**** question.

bigwheel
26-01-2020, 06:09 PM
I only watched the 2nd half and thought he looked poor, so can only imagine how bad he was in the 1st half!

That is an unfair judgement....he barely put a foot wrong in the second half. Still expect him to move on tbh. People forget he has probably been told to find another club, not played for months. But showed his professionalism when he turned his first half poor show around and was as good as anyone in our side second half.


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Lago
26-01-2020, 06:09 PM
None of us can answer that. Its a bull**** question.
Was a genuine question, but oh well not to worry. 👍😕

Greenworld
26-01-2020, 06:09 PM
Cumdog is coming home

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A Hi-Bee
26-01-2020, 06:11 PM
Get JC back!!

That boat has sailed, we couldnie afford him now.