Brexit - What Now.

[wookie70]

It's not like toilet rolls. There is only a pretty limited amount of storage in folks' cars so it should settle down pretty quickly.

Plenty carrier bags though so unlimited storage.lol

[Killiehibbie]

Plenty carrier bags though so unlimited storage.lol

She should be locked up to protect us all and her.

[JeMeSouviens]

She should be locked up to protect us all and her.

Definitely on for a Darwin award. :agree:

[degenerated]

Out of interest has anyone actually had any issues buying fuel?

I stuck £30 in the car on Saturday. Drove straight into the pumps at Asda at the Jewel, waited whilst one person in front of me filled up cans then got my fuel and left. Was back in this morning at the store and there was a tanker unloading. Driver from my work filled a Sprinter with diesel this morning at the BP at Canonmills with no bother at all as well.

I'm supposed to be driving down south on Friday and that takes three quarters of a tank. I'm certain getting down will be fine. Where I am headed is very rural and only has 2 small petrol stations nearby, that is a slight concern but even then, probably naively, I'm not that worried.I was at Tesco Queensferry on Saturday night and stuck £40 of diesel in no problem, no queues at all.
Also at Shell garage Queensferry on Saturday afternoon and stuck £17 of v power petrol in the bike and went out for a run and was back there on Sunday for another £12 top up. Two things I noticed firstly my bike is a bit thirsty and secondly they had no diesel either day.

[Jack]

Out of interest has anyone actually had any issues buying fuel?

I stuck £30 in the car on Saturday. Drove straight into the pumps at Asda at the Jewel, waited whilst one person in front of me filled up cans then got my fuel and left. Was back in this morning at the store and there was a tanker unloading. Driver from my work filled a Sprinter with diesel this morning at the BP at Canonmills with no bother at all as well.

I'm supposed to be driving down south on Friday and that takes three quarters of a tank. I'm certain getting down will be fine. Where I am headed is very rural and only has 2 small petrol stations nearby, that is a slight concern but even then, probably naively, I'm not that worried.

Many years ago there was petrol rationing, £10 max, and I was in the same predicament as you. It made it a long trip home!

[Killiehibbie]

Out of interest has anyone actually had any issues buying fuel?

I stuck £30 in the car on Saturday. Drove straight into the pumps at Asda at the Jewel, waited whilst one person in front of me filled up cans then got my fuel and left. Was back in this morning at the store and there was a tanker unloading. Driver from my work filled a Sprinter with diesel this morning at the BP at Canonmills with no bother at all as well.

I'm supposed to be driving down south on Friday and that takes three quarters of a tank. I'm certain getting down will be fine. Where I am headed is very rural and only has 2 small petrol stations nearby, that is a slight concern but even then, probably naively, I'm not that worried.

I saw a few on Saturday with diesel pumps closed but they all had them open today when I passed.

[wookie70]

My wife just filled the car at Costco. We tend to go once a month or so and fill to the brim as it makes financial sense. No issues with Diesel at least

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/tazerblack/status/1441810467740008451?s=21

Must be a shortage of petrol cans as well.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkVoted brexit and Nasty party, ergo, can do whatever she wants. No accountability and just deny you done it.

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[Callum_62]

I just plug my car in at home

Eco smugness alert level 5 [emoji23]

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[Bostonhibby]

I just plug my car in at home

Eco smugness alert level 5 [emoji23]

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkWait until Bozo tells us what's going on with electricity supplies and pricing.

Just needs to find a way to tie it all into the pandemic and Jeremy Corbyn first[emoji6]

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[Moulin Yarns]

I was in Boots in Buchan an Galleries in Glasgow today and all the tills are self service, it's either to make up for staff shortage due to Brexit or the staff have left to train as lorry drivers. 🤔😁

[nairn hibee]

Voted brexit and Nasty party, ergo, can do whatever she wants. No accountability and just deny you done it.

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Doubt that ,there are no Kroger petrol stations in Britain ,looks a bit Asian to me

[Bostonhibby]

Doubt that ,there are no Kroger petrol stations in Britain ,looks a bit Asian to meYep, there'll be a UK equivalent along in a minute though.

Heard one today about a guy with 100 litres of red deisel in a water butt sealed off in the back of his van.

Fair bit of red around in Lincolnshire.

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[Hibrandenburg]

I just plug my car in at home

Eco smugness alert level 5 [emoji23]

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I had my car converted to run on sovereignty back in 2016. I get about 47 furlongs to the hand³.

[Killiehibbie]

I was in Boots in Buchan an Galleries in Glasgow today and all the tills are self service, it's either to make up for staff shortage due to Brexit or the staff have left to train as lorry drivers. 🤔😁

Another excuse to do away with customer service roles. We will find more self service tills, some supermarkets have moved to no staffed checkouts.
Some of them are completely doing away with checkouts

[Lendo]

Driving to Skye today for a wee three day break. Got a full tank (more or less) just now but genuinely concerned about getting back. I’m hoping the people of the Highlands and Islands aren’t panic buying morons like down south.

[Pretty Boy]

Driving to Skye today for a wee three day break. Got a full tank (more or less) just now but genuinely concerned about getting back. I’m hoping the people of the Highlands and Islands aren’t panic buying morons like down south.

Fwiw the news last night said big population centres were more impacted than rural.

They also said the motorway and key routes were being prioritised for deliveries.

[Mr Grieves]

We had no bother filling up at Asda Jewel on Sunday morning but I've noticed our local station at Seafield hasn't had fuel for the last 3 days

[JeMeSouviens]

Driving to Skye today for a wee three day break. Got a full tank (more or less) just now but genuinely concerned about getting back. I’m hoping the people of the Highlands and Islands aren’t panic buying morons like down south.


I'm near Inverness, petrol stations don't seem especially busy here and they have fuel.

[Lendo]

We had no bother filling up at Asda Jewel on Sunday morning but I've noticed our local station at Seafield hasn't had fuel for the last 3 days

Just went past the two stations on Ferry Road and no queues at all.

[Allant1981]

Was at sainsburys at longstone yesterday, they have nothing, came back to bathgate almost in the red, went to tesco, no diesel, went to the bp garage and managed to get desiel at the last pump left, the woman in the shop said they only had 100 litres left so would be done in the next hour, absolutely mental

[ronaldo7]

Losing their rags in England.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/28/man-pulls-out-knife-at-petrol-station-as-fuel-crisis-takes-over-uk-15326953/?ito=article.desktop.share.top.twitter

[lord bunberry]

We had no bother filling up at Asda Jewel on Sunday morning but I've noticed our local station at Seafield hasn't had fuel for the last 3 days
It’s £30 max in there now.

[Bristolhibby]

I’m taking the boy on his rugby tour to Devon this weekend. Don’t want to set off without a full tank.

J

[Jack]

A friend copied this to Facebook. I think we all knew things were bad but ... and these wages aren't the the low wages being discussed here and elsewhere on the forum.

I've removed indentation tags but if anyone is genuinely interested they can PM me.

"I wouldn’t say we are desperate, I’d say we are on our knees!

Calling all recruitment agents in my network, we need…

Sous Chef £30k
Chef de partie £25k
Assistant F&B mgr £25k
Commis chef £21k
Rooms manager £30k
Waiting staff and Cleaning staff £10per hour.

Uniform provided and laundered
Awesome staff meals in our staff pub!
£250 on three month anniversary
Team building activities
Monthly personal development activities
£250 referral bonus
Loch side accommodation available
Mountain biking, kayaking on your doorstep
All round great working environment"

[Jones28]

Driving to Skye today for a wee three day break. Got a full tank (more or less) just now but genuinely concerned about getting back. I’m hoping the people of the Highlands and Islands aren’t panic buying morons like down south.

I bought fuel in Lanark on Sunday absolutely bother, so if that classes a rural then presumably it’ll be fine up that way!

[Jack]

"Nobody can be surprised" that Brexit contributed to the*UK's fuel crisis, the EU's former chief Brexit negotiator has said.

Michel Barnier*- who is currently running for the French presidency - said national shortages of fuel and food products are - among other factors - due to the UK leaving the EU.

"Nobody can be surprised. The British government decided to leave the EU, to leave the single market, to leave the customs union. That means mechanic consequences," Mr Barnier told ITV News.



https://www.itv.com/news/2021-09-28/michel-barnier-no-one-can-be-surprised-brexit-contributed-to-fuel-crisis

[Moulin Yarns]

A friend copied this to Facebook. I think we all knew things were bad but ... and these wages aren't the the low wages being discussed here and elsewhere on the forum.

I've removed indentation tags but if anyone is genuinely interested they can PM me.

"I wouldn’t say we are desperate, I’d say we are on our knees!

Calling all recruitment agents in my network, we need…

Sous Chef £30k
Chef de partie £25k
Assistant F&B mgr £25k
Commis chef £21k
Rooms manager £30k
Waiting staff and Cleaning staff £10per hour.

Uniform provided and laundered
Awesome staff meals in our staff pub!
£250 on three month anniversary
Team building activities
Monthly personal development activities
£250 referral bonus
Loch side accommodation available
Mountain biking, kayaking on your doorstep
All round great working environment"

I know exactly which hotel that is. About 30 minutes from me.

[Moulin Yarns]

In other news. From today the GB car identification is no longer recognised in the EU.


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-10036963/amp/GB-stickers-no-longer-valid-Europe-rule-change-TODAY.html


All cars registered in great Britain must now show UK stickers!!!

[Allant1981]

I know exactly which hotel that is. About 30 minutes from me.

Stayed in said hotel a few times, nice area for a wee break, like getting out on the tay

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/loopsidernews/status/1442907479503822855?s=21


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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/loopsidernews/status/1442907479503822855?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Grotesque peasants stalk the land."

I reckon at least half of those guys who are dressed like toddlers are on the posh.

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[Radium]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-58733754

Clown shortage in Northern Ireland, not Brexit related but Performers have found jobs elsewhere and visas not really working for non EU clowns


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[Bostonhibby]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-58733754

Clown shortage in Northern Ireland, not Brexit related but Performers have found jobs elsewhere and visas not really working for non EU clowns


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's a surplus in England but can't see them getting over to Ireland any time soon as they are all in filling station queues just now and there'll be another queue to join shortly after.

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[ronaldo7]

Mon the Germans. :greengrin

https://twitter.com/chef_leopold/status/1443099179098718208

[Moulin Yarns]

Now all you gas gazzler drivers know what range anxiety is :greengrin

[Kato]

Don't like turkey much anyway.

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[Bostonhibby]

Don't like turkey much anyway.

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkNot as Prime Minister, but if you harness a couple of thousand of them up they could maybe pull your car down the road?

Maybe one for Bozo when he saves the world at his climate conference?

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[degenerated]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-58733754

Clown shortage in Northern Ireland, not Brexit related but Performers have found jobs elsewhere and visas not really working for non EU clowns


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDon't know how, the place is rammed with them mid July.

[Bostonhibby]

Don't know how, the place is rammed with them mid July.[emoji23]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Ministers are discussing plans to ease visa restrictions to allow up to 1,000 foreign butchers into the country, Priti(cough) Patel is resisting the move


The British Meat Processors Association says the industry is short of 15,000 workers


source, the Times



how freakin embarrassing

[Ozyhibby]

Ministers are discussing plans to ease visa restrictions to allow up to 1,000 foreign butchers into the country, Priti(cough) Patel is resisting the move


The British Meat Processors Association says the industry is short of 15,000 workers


source, the Times



how freakin embarrassing

By the end of this we’ll be out the SM and CU but still letting in as much foreign Labour as before. The racists are going to go mental.[emoji23]


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[Torto7]

I see the disabled murderer IDS is calling for article 16 to be triggered. What a bloodthirsty creep he is. You can see how the likes of Cromwell came to be in the past when you look at that mans psyche.

[Moulin Yarns]

I see the disabled murderer IDS is calling for article 16 to be triggered. What a bloodthirsty creep he is. You can see how the likes of Cromwell came to be in the past when you look at that mans psyche.

What reasons is he citing for triggering it?

[Torto7]

What reasons is he citing for triggering it?

Some guff about economic conditions.

From what I can gather N.I seems to be doing rather well from still having close ties to the SM. The Tories couldn't stand having a successful N Ireland whilst the mainland suffers. Better to make them suffer as well.

[Bristolhibby]

Some guff about economic conditions.

From what I can gather N.I seems to be doing rather well from still having close ties to the SM. The Tories couldn't stand having a successful N Ireland whilst the mainland suffers. Better to make them suffer as well.

I actually believe this is their thinking.

Absolutely insane behaviour. Highlighting why NI (and Scotland) have to get off this ride pronto.

J

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211002/80f2fc05d75ff5d6547ce7f3ca00b371.jpg
So we can’t bring in the workers to farm the turkey’s here but we can bring in the turkey’s farmed over there?
So all the economic benefit of farming these turkey’s stays in the EU now?


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[Moulin Yarns]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211002/80f2fc05d75ff5d6547ce7f3ca00b371.jpg
So we can’t bring in the workers to farm the turkey’s here but we can bring in the turkey’s farmed over there?
So all the economic benefit of farming these turkey’s stays in the EU now?


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Am I allowed to be the first to use the phrase Turkeys voted for Christmas?

[Kato]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211002/80f2fc05d75ff5d6547ce7f3ca00b371.jpg
So we can’t bring in the workers to farm the turkey’s here but we can bring in the turkey’s farmed over there?
So all the economic benefit of farming these turkey’s stays in the EU now?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe've taken back control.

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[Bostonhibby]

We've taken back control.

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkThe turkeys have got control here, they probably have never had so much political influence as they do now.

I bet they never thought they'd be a dinner and a distraction from some other bad news in the same year.

Vote Turkey, millions do. Other soundbites are available.

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[lapsedhibee]

The turkeys have got control here, they probably have never had so much political influence as they do now.

I bet they never thought they'd be a dinner and a distraction from some other bad news in the same year.

Vote Turkey, millions do. Other soundbites are available.


Swamped by turkey. It's exactly what the Vote Leave campaign predicted-lied in 2016 if we didn't Brexit.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1022571070904303616

[Bostonhibby]

Swamped by turkey. It's exactly what the Vote Leave campaign predicted-lied in 2016 if we didn't Brexit.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1022571070904303616[emoji16]

I'm guessing at least some of their supporters can differentiate between the two Turkey's involved here.

If not maybe someone like Nigel Farage could explain?

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1444290303448567816?s=21

Interesting thread.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/opinion/britain-fuel-crisis-johnson.html?fbclid=IwAR1mkjT_b6xbK_INNfsv7Cy3MofQ G23TZgRlLT6PZUmYf5cnygGWVdujkc8


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/jrhopkin/status/1444601117845901320?s=21


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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/jrhopkin/status/1444601117845901320?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHis chat about a "big lever labeled uncontrolled immigration" is just a dogwhistle. Controlled immigration was available within the EU. Germany doesn't have uncontrolled immigration for example.

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[Jack]

His chat about a "big lever labeled uncontrolled immigration" is just a dogwhistle. Controlled immigration was available within the EU. Germany doesn't have uncontrolled immigration for example.

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Is there a country anywhere in the world that allows uncontrolled immigration?

[Kato]

Is there a country anywhere in the world that allows uncontrolled immigration?We had it within the EU borders. The idea the only way to bring it to an end was Brexit is a lie.

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[Hibrandenburg]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/opinion/britain-fuel-crisis-johnson.html?fbclid=IwAR1mkjT_b6xbK_INNfsv7Cy3MofQ G23TZgRlLT6PZUmYf5cnygGWVdujkc8


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O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; To see oursels as ithers see us!

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a slavering e rse this **** is, i'd love him to get an 8-hour interrogation like our first minister got, but then again it would take him more than 8 hours to actually answer a Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV_aZ0r7U7g












dodgy Dave cameron must squirm whenever there's a mention of pigs in the news

[lapsedhibee]

what a slavering e rse this **** is, i'd love him to get an 8-hour interrogation like our first minister got, but then again it would take him more than 8 hours to actually answer a Q

Did he think he was talking to Antoinette for a bit there with his 'sorry to break it to you but the pigs were going to die anyway'? :dunno:

[Just Alf]

Did he think he was talking to Antoinette for a bit there with his 'sorry to break it to you but the pigs were going to die anyway'? :dunno:I Laughed at that bit... he totally sidestepped the fact that the farmers will lose lots of money out of it.

[The Pointer]

Is there a country anywhere in the world that allows uncontrolled immigration?

Depends what you mean by 'allow'. Most European countries don't 'allow' it but it occurs in most of them. It certainly does here.

[Jack]

Depends what you mean by 'allow'. Most European countries don't 'allow' it but it occurs in most of them. It certainly does here.

Are you not confusing controlled immigration which happens in all countries with illegal immigration which by its very nature is uncontrolled?

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211004/632b42ad9ba86b8f3dd92fc3a7f9d059.jpg

Being handed out at Tory conference.


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[Smartie]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211004/632b42ad9ba86b8f3dd92fc3a7f9d059.jpg

Being handed out at Tory conference.


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Being an Etonian with an intimate understanding of pigs, I guess this crisis is one that Cameron will be lined up to make a few quid out of.

[Kato]

Being an Etonian with an intimate understanding of pigs, I guess this crisis is one that Cameron will be lined up to make a few quid out of.Maybe. He's in a cubicle right now giving the leaflet a "going over".

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211004/a0fd80eae5271a32d4545c3494192b7c.jpg


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[Jack]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211004/a0fd80eae5271a32d4545c3494192b7c.jpg


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I'd be interested to know how anyone can see it as a success.

[Kato]

Some of those saying "failure" might be doing so as they can still hear the odd foreign accent or see someone eating a croissant every now and then.

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[Bostonhibby]

Some of those saying "failure" might be doing so as they can still hear the odd foreign accent or see someone eating a croissant every now and then.

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkYou'd think these polls would automatically have some sort of weighting to take account of the permanently disgusted / furious at everything that doesn't accord with their views of what the world should look like today.

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[wookie70]

I'd be interested to know how anyone can see it as a success.

Amazing the Northern Irish, who you could argue now have the best of both worlds, see it as much worse than the other nations. They of course have bigger issues if that border firms up but I would have thought they would see the advantages as they stand. Quite disappointed that 35 out of 100 Scots think it has been a success. that is breath taking given we have been possibly the most disadvantaged when it comes to exports.

[Smartie]

I'd be interested to know how anyone can see it as a success.

There will probably be some industries that will benefit.

If you rent out a few caravans in Skegness at a time when foreign travel is more difficult, or you’re possibly in the lucrative turnip industry, these might just be the glory days you’ve waited your entire life for.

Owning a skip company near a fishing port has probably never been better.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58800848.amp

127 foreign drivers apply for visa.


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[lapsedhibee]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58800848.amp

127 foreign drivers apply for visa.


Is it definitely as many as that? https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1445292485689884672

[Ozyhibby]

Is it definitely as many as that? https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1445292485689884672

Maybe the BBC helping the govt make it look better?


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[Kato]

Maybe the BBC helping the govt make it look better?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkITV had it as 27, quite possibly a typo.

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[grunt]

I'd be interested to know how anyone can see it as a success.Me too. On what basis do they consider it a success??

[lapsedhibee]

Me too. On what basis do they consider it a success??

Alice Roberts's take: https://twitter.com/theAliceRoberts/status/1444932285678202880?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[ronaldo7]

Maybe the BBC helping the govt make it look better?


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ITV had it as 27, quite possibly a typo.

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Bozo mentioned 127 in his interview this morning on the Tory broadcasting service.

[grunt]

Alice Roberts's take: https://twitter.com/theAliceRoberts/status/1444932285678202880?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Fair point.

[Kato]

Bozo mentioned 127 in his interview this morning on the Tory broadcasting service.Phew, glad he cleared that up.

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[lapsedhibee]

Bozo mentioned 127 in his interview this morning on the Tory broadcasting service.

Boosterism gone mad.

[Killiehibbie]

Bozo mentioned 127 in his interview this morning on the Tory broadcasting service.

That's about 0.0127% of the positions temporarily sorted

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/resophonick/status/1445092208705683486

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1445380981280608259

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1445380981280608259

Those will be British pigs and all the happier for it.


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[ronaldo7]

Those will be British pigs and all the happier for it.


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Imported pork for us in the next few years. Good old Brexit.

[Ozyhibby]

Imported pork for us in the next few years. Good old Brexit.

Probably just as well as the UK will be looking to lower food standards. It will be more expensive though as the UK £ plummets.


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[Bostonhibby]

Imported pork for us in the next few years. Good old Brexit.Does this mean that pigs heads will be more freely available and at lower prices for certain university club rituals favoured by the upper echelons of the Nasty party?

If so, we might have found a genuine Brexit benefit. Free markets at their finest.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/scotfoodjames/status/1445346081479479299?s=21

Johnson makes a fair point.[emoji23]


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[lapsedhibee]

https://twitter.com/scotfoodjames/status/1445346081479479299?s=21

Johnson makes a fair point.[emoji23]


Journalist trying to dodge the question about whether he'd ever eaten a bacon sandwich made with live pig. Good to see the PM pressing him hard on that one. :faf: :bitchy:

[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/france-threatens-to-cut-uk-energy-supplies-in-latest-brexit-row/?__twitter_impression=true

Get ready for power cuts.[emoji51]


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[lapsedhibee]

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/france-threatens-to-cut-uk-energy-supplies-in-latest-brexit-row/?__twitter_impression=true

Get ready for power cuts.[emoji51]


Could Johnson be about to learn that actions have consequences? :dunno:

(No.)

[Bostonhibby]

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/france-threatens-to-cut-uk-energy-supplies-in-latest-brexit-row/?__twitter_impression=true

Get ready for power cuts.[emoji51]


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[Kato]

Journalist trying to dodge the question about whether he'd ever eaten a bacon sandwich made with live pig. Good to see the PM pressing him hard on that one. :faf: :bitchy:What kind of answer is that?

Not only is he not a serious PM or MP, he's simply incapable of taking anything seriously.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

https://youtu.be/XAdmCrzmUW4

[Hibrandenburg]

https://youtu.be/XAdmCrzmUW4

Genius, Boris negotiated a border across the Irish Sea that the EU didn't want, the UK didn't want, Northern Ireland didn't want, the Irish Republic didn't want and even Boris didn't want. You have to be a special kind of incompetent to negotiate a lose, lose, lose, lose and lose deal.

[lapsedhibee]

What kind of answer is that?

Not only is he not a serious PM or MP, he's simply incapable of taking anything seriously.


It appears to be the kind of answer English voters want. Miliband eats a bacon sandwich => chaos. Johnson talks utter **** about bacon sandwiches => poll lead.

[Kato]

“You could have stopped and told us you weren’t a petrol tanker.”

https://newsontheflipside.com/world-news/drivers-followed-truck-carrying-mortar-believing-it-was-a-fuel-tanker/

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[Skol]

Genius, Boris negotiated a border across the Irish Sea that the EU didn't want, the UK didn't want, Northern Ireland didn't want, the Irish Republic didn't want and even Boris didn't want. You have to be a special kind of incompetent to negotiate a lose, lose, lose, lose and lose deal.

This was a problem out of Brexit that was unsolvable. Although the eu didn’t want the border as it is the current was the only workable solution albeit it creates many other issues

[degenerated]

Dominic Raab on BBC this morning.


“Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man”

[lord bunberry]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58800848.amp

127 foreign drivers apply for visa.


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How many of those 127 will be employable? You’ll have a fair number who can’t get a job because of criminal behaviour or other such misdemeanours, but think it’s worth chancing it over here because we’re desperate. I very much doubt the actual number employed will reach 3 figures.

[Radium]

… back to blaming the French protesters.

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[Bangkok Hibby]

Dominic Raab on BBC this morning.


“Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man”

Almost as confused as some on hibs.net

[Moulin Yarns]

How many of those 127 will be employable? You’ll have a fair number who can’t get a job because of criminal behaviour or other such misdemeanours, but think it’s worth chancing it over here because we’re desperate. I very much doubt the actual number employed will reach 3 figures.

Considering that the actual number is 27, a lot less than they need.

[Kato]

Dominic Raab on BBC this morning.


“Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man”He's getting misogyny and misterogyny mixed up.

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[degenerated]

He's getting misogyny and misterogyny mixed up.

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[hibsbollah]

Dominic Raab on BBC this morning.


“Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man”

:faf: superb

[Bostonhibby]

Dominic Raab on BBC this morning.


“Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man”Now that he has come out and clearly stated his position on ministerology I can only see his popularity soaring as he tries to scramble back up the pole to be Nasty party leader again.


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[degenerated]

Now that he has come out and clearly stated his position on ministerology I can only see his popularity soaring as he tries to scramble back up the pole to be Nasty party leader again.


Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkThe guy appears to have the IQ of a potato, they must just hand out degrees at Oxford and Cambridge if a fud like him can get a master's.

[Northernhibee]

This conference speech is unbelievable. Tell us about how terrible things are after eleven years of a Tory government, mention “levelling up” every other sentence and then complete waffle.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/britain-seeks-views-plugging-back-into-european-power-market-2021-09-30/


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[Jones28]

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/france-threatens-to-cut-uk-energy-supplies-in-latest-brexit-row/?__twitter_impression=true

Get ready for power cuts.[emoji51]


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I love the quote from the un-named cabinet minister.

“Well we won’t come crawling back, we’re warning you. We’re happy with rolling blackouts and electricity rationing.”

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58820599.amp


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[ronaldo7]

Dairy farmers forced to pour tens of thousands of litres of milk away due to HGV driver shortage and rising costs and labour shortages

https://news.sky.com/story/dairy-farmers-forced-to-pour-tens-of-thousands-of-litres-of-milk-away-due-to-hgv-driver-shortage-and-rising-costs-and-labour-shortages-12427818

Build back butter.

[Moulin Yarns]

Dairy farmers forced to pour tens of thousands of litres of milk away due to HGV driver shortage and rising costs and labour shortages

https://news.sky.com/story/dairy-farmers-forced-to-pour-tens-of-thousands-of-litres-of-milk-away-due-to-hgv-driver-shortage-and-rising-costs-and-labour-shortages-12427818

Build back butter.

I was in my local co-op this morning and the music was interrupted to apologise for the items missing from the shelf and blamed shortages on lack of drivers and labour to keep up with the supply that is stacked high in warehouses.

[Ozyhibby]

I was in my local co-op this morning and the music was interrupted to apologise for the items missing from the shelf and blamed shortages on lack of drivers and labour to keep up with the supply that is stacked high in warehouses.

Nonsense, these shortages are not happening. I read that on here.[emoji106]


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[Bostonhibby]

Nonsense, these shortages are not happening. I read that on here.[emoji106]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey're happening everywhere now that Bozo is enthusiastically saying "Levelling up" a lot

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[Ryan91]

Another Brexit Bonus - US Chipmaker Intel won't be opening a new Fabrication facility in UK due to it having left the EU

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58820599

[Bostonhibby]

Another Brexit Bonus - US Chipmaker Intel won't be opening a new Fabrication facility in UK due to it having left the EU

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58820599Ach, someone will be along in a minute to tell you it's because of Covid, Jeremy Corbyn or Gordon Brown.

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[Crunchie]

Nonsense, these shortages are not happening. I read that on here.[emoji106]


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Not long back from Morrisons and M&S in Livingston, you'll be glad to hear there's still no bare shelves :aok:, plenty of petrol too.

[lapsedhibee]

Another Brexit Bonus - US Chipmaker Intel won't be opening a new Fabrication facility in UK due to it having left the EU

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58820599

Further encouragement for those on low wages to retrain, this time as microchip manufacturers. How hard can it be? :dunno:

[Jones28]

Another Brexit Bonus - US Chipmaker Intel won't be opening a new Fabrication facility in UK due to it having left the EU

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58820599

Good, we want to become self sufficient in our production of computer tech and chips anyway. I can knock up a…what are they called?..penguin chip in the garage no problem.

[Moulin Yarns]

Not long back from Morrisons and M&S in Livingston, you'll be glad to hear there's still no bare shelves :aok:, plenty of petrol too.

:fibber:

I've heard of ambulance chasers before but never supermarket lorry chasers. You must do that to ensure you can keep up your charade!!

Maybe you could get me Glace Cherries becaus the 3 supermarkets I tried yesterday and today can't get them for love or money!!

[Bostonhibby]

Good, we want to become self sufficient in our production of computer tech and chips anyway. I can knock up a…what are they called?..penguin chip in the garage no problem.So long as we can get the potatoes out the ground a modern, forward looking high tech Britain will always have chips.

Surely we can claim that levelling up of chips to the same level as before is a Brexit bonus?

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[hibsbollah]

:fibber:

I've heard of ambulance chasers before but never supermarket lorry chasers. You must do that to ensure you can keep up your charade!!

Maybe you could get me Glace Cherries becaus the 3 supermarkets I tried yesterday and today can't get them for love or money!!

Sparkling water is back though. But not seed compost. ****ing impossible to find seed compost. All the other kinds but not that. Lots of hipsters thinking they're Monty ****ing Don.

[degenerated]

So long as we can get the potatoes out the ground a modern, forward looking high tech Britain will always have chips.

Surely we can claim that levelling up of chips to the same level as before is a Brexit bonus?

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkOur policies are clear! Potatoes!

https://youtu.be/ShRf1svMcuA

[Bostonhibby]

Our policies are clear! Potatoes!

https://youtu.be/ShRf1svMcuAPotatoes in our time

Get potatoes done

350m potatoes a week for the NHS

Take back potatoes

Etc..

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[degenerated]

Potatoes in our time

Get potatoes done

350m potatoes a week for the NHS

Take back potatoes

Etc..

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkBuild back potatoes

And for Dominic Raab, he can always count to potato if he wants :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Build back potatoes

And for Dominic Raab, he can always count to potato if he wants :greengrinI'd like to see Raab in a head to head at Mastermind with a potato.

The betting would be too close to call, and the lack of a mouth or any other means of communication would not necessarily be a handicap for the potato.

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[degenerated]

I'd like to see Raab in a head to head at Mastermind with a potato.

The betting would be too close to call, and the lack of a mouth or any other means of communication would not necessarily be a handicap for the potato.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkSimilar IQ, would be a fair contest :hilarious

[Bostonhibby]

Similar IQ, would be a fair contest :hilariousI imagine Raab would be pleased with a draw, which could later be claimed as a symbolic victory.

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[greenlex]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bPsY_nhTtxg&feature=share

[greenlex]

Channel 4 news filled a lorry driver delivering donuts to Germany from Leeds. She picked up some milkshakes in Holland and brought them back. I kid you not she got out her depot and was going to pick up the donuts. Was told to stop as a vet had to check what she was picking as they had cream in them and was classed as an animal product. 4 days to get back home. No wonder the country is ****ed.

[Jones28]

So long as we can get the potatoes out the ground a modern, forward looking high tech Britain will always have chips.

Surely we can claim that levelling up of chips to the same level as before is a Brexit bonus?

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As long as they’re chips and not french fries then yes we can.

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[Smartie]

What’s with the obsession about Christmas?

I mean, I like Christmas, but it’s like our National priorities are being set by a 5 year old.

[Moulin Yarns]

What’s with the obsession about Christmas?

I mean, I like Christmas, but it’s like our National priorities are being set by a 5 year old.

Probably the best description of the PM yet. 😉

[Kato]

What’s with the obsession about Christmas?

I mean, I like Christmas, but it’s like our National priorities are being set by a 5 year old.

Quite a few generations now living in an extreme consumer society. It's capitalisms biggest festival and if families can't get hold of large quantities of useless plastic and at least three times more food than they need, most of which will be chucked, they feel they are being oppressed.

My English in-laws go absolutely mental before Christmas and most of it feels like they are competing with each other.

[Ozyhibby]

What’s with the obsession about Christmas?

I mean, I like Christmas, but it’s like our National priorities are being set by a 5 year old.

If our supply chains and infrastructure are not coping now then in the run up to Xmas it is going to be chaos. Our consumption levels go through the roof in November/December. Satisfying that demand if going to very very difficult this year and people are going to be very upset when they can’t do what they normally do. Add a fuel and energy crisis into the mix and I’ll be shocked if the UK does not move into a severe recession going into the new year.


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[ronaldo7]

First it was the fisher folk...Maybe Kermit will save miss Piggy.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1446412750415093768

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/phantompower14/status/1446125107391307781?s=21


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[Bostonhibby]

What’s with the obsession about Christmas?

I mean, I like Christmas, but it’s like our National priorities are being set by a 5 year old.Is it because he might have a chance of actually delivering on a soundbite?

Turkey in our time?

I mean it's not as if we've never been able to have a shortage free Christmas before.

It would surely be a big huzzah for Bozo in the media if Turkey and Brussel sprouts were simultaneously available to a grateful nation.
Even if they are imported from Europe and cost even more money than fuel post Brexit.

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[SHODAN]

After all the incessant bleating from the right about a culture war it's pretty ironic that the first thing with a genuine shot at cancelling Christmas is Brexit.

[hibsbollah]

Personally I’ve got no problem with Christmas being cancelled. At least the overblown, consumer driven orgy of buying useless crap for people who don’t want or need it. Love the family time, love the relaxation and time away from constant work, but less of the things I’m not bothered about would be a bonus.

Not sure my 14 year old likes the idea of cutting back on the presents but there you are.

[Jack]

I could be wrong but I get the feeling the Brexiteers and torys are very much concerned about Christmas and the opportunity to celebrate a very British traditional Christmas. White Santa and baby Jesus, pissed up Christmas Eve to Boxing Day, standing for the Queens speech, turkey and sprouts (not packaged as Brussels sprouts!) Alf Garnett personified.

I haven't heard anyone, politicians or press, concerned about any other religions religious festivals falling before the end of the year.

[Moulin Yarns]

I could be wrong but I get the feeling the Brexiteers and torys are very much concerned about Christmas and the opportunity to celebrate a very British traditional Christmas. White Santa and baby Jesus, pissed up Christmas Eve to Boxing Day, standing for the Queens speech, turkey and sprouts (not packaged as Brussels sprouts!) Alf Garnett personified.

I haven't heard anyone, politicians or press, concerned about any other religions religious festivals falling before the end of the year.

Brussels sprouts will go the same way as the German shepherd, I think that they will be renamed as brassica buds.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/tomfrench85/status/1446470915739488290?s=21


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[cabbageandribs1875]

excellent piece by mark frankland who runs a foodbank in dumfries


Mark Frankland: OCTOBER 6 2021 WILL GO DOWN AS A DAY OF SHAME. THE DAY THE TORY PARTY QUAFFED CHAMPAGNE IN MANCHESTER WHILST KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH. (marksimonfrankland.blogspot.com) (https://marksimonfrankland.blogspot.com/2021/10/october-6-2021-will-go-down-as-day-of.html?fbclid=IwAR3WjvhxPRhsirDB0WS8DPB4DHpQ31OKF yxr43EQNzSsR6tdymvZ4g-7VI4)


i've also noticed a few articles online from various tory-owned papers starting to give the nastiest leader of the nastiest every political party some grief

pleasing


even the Spectator doesn't hold back on Johnson The fantasy world of Boris Johnson | The Spectator (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-fantasy-world-of-boris-johnson?fbclid=IwAR3YwEbvvIVj9VetKjAICTZr249Ue_h46 yWOSqw2pE8h5JZF7zywoDWKRyA)

[Bostonhibby]

excellent piece by mark frankland who runs a foodbank in dumfries


Mark Frankland: OCTOBER 6 2021 WILL GO DOWN AS A DAY OF SHAME. THE DAY THE TORY PARTY QUAFFED CHAMPAGNE IN MANCHESTER WHILST KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH. (marksimonfrankland.blogspot.com) (https://marksimonfrankland.blogspot.com/2021/10/october-6-2021-will-go-down-as-day-of.html?fbclid=IwAR3WjvhxPRhsirDB0WS8DPB4DHpQ31OKF yxr43EQNzSsR6tdymvZ4g-7VI4)


i've also noticed a few articles online from various tory-owned papers starting to give the nastiest leader of the nastiest every political party some grief

pleasing


even the Spectator doesn't hold back on Johnson The fantasy world of Boris Johnson | The Spectator (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-fantasy-world-of-boris-johnson?fbclid=IwAR3YwEbvvIVj9VetKjAICTZr249Ue_h46 yWOSqw2pE8h5JZF7zywoDWKRyA)Covid means theyve made their money, they're shameless and they're partying.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/mij_europe/status/1446748866812989442?s=21

Interesting thread on compromises the EU are about to make on Irish Sea border.


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[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1446531906200350723?t=buImXoW78RBIsiqCQnju7g&s=19

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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/244404849_556747212248352_4175338854680501370_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=1rj5QbrDLSMAX8MvhJf&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=3494ffac4980cb3a14218337b7c1e858&oe=6187B78E


meanwhile the corrupt PoS is away on another freebie holiday with princess nut nut, and i bet he left his wallet at home, assuming he even has one

[hibsbollah]

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meanwhile the corrupt PoS is away on another freebie holiday with princess nut nut, and i bet he left his wallet at home, assuming he even has one

A week in the Costa de Sol? Outside of half term where he won’t have to rub shoulders with the great unwashed? Capitol notion. 7 weeks summer holiday is clearly not enough for him.

Was looking at MPs pay yesterday. They vote themselves an increase every year without fail, despite economic conditions. From £65k to £81 since 2010, which is still‘miserly’ according to a Tory MP last week.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/388885/mp-salary-uk/

[Ozyhibby]

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[Bostonhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211010/622f18cbecf7ed39a9f37f6472840473.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's almost as if Bozo signed up for this without reading it first.

Maybe he was on holiday at the time.



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[lapsedhibee]

An interesting analysis here of what Johnson and Frost might be up to, and why that needs Biden to come a cropper:
https://twitter.com/AndrewPRLevi/status/1447230372706721803

[lapsedhibee]

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Totally correct. All Remainers' fault. :faf:

[Kato]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211010/622f18cbecf7ed39a9f37f6472840473.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkReading between the lines the tone of that sounds like a bully intoning, "don't you know who I am?" The reality is filtered through Billy Connollys quip, "don't you know who I was?"

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[He's here!]

'Polexit'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58863680

[Bostonhibby]

'Polexit'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58863680We'll be able to say we always liked the Poles if this comes off, maybe we could set up some sort of alliance..........

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[lapsedhibee]

We'll be able to say we always liked the Poles if this comes off, maybe we could set up some sort of alliance..........


Don't doubt there'll be a few disaster capitalists rubbing their hands at the slightest prospect of a bit of European nation-state warring again. Been a long time fallow now with the pesky EEC/EC/EU.

[Hibrandenburg]

We'll be able to say we always liked the Poles if this comes off, maybe we could set up some sort of alliance..........

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I heard on the radio that the British Trade Minister is already trying to set up a trade agreement with Agatha Smalinski who makes homemade raspberry jam and sells it on Ebay.

[Radium]

https://twitter.com/snoxyy14/status/1447478163488051201?s=21

… surely has to be fake but nothing jumping out to say it is

… is NF now embracing the Belfast Agreement?


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[lord bunberry]

https://twitter.com/snoxyy14/status/1447478163488051201?s=21

… surely has to be fake but nothing jumping out to say it is

… is NF now embracing the Belfast Agreement?


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He now does online messages for money, he reads out whatever you ask him. I guessing he didn’t realise what he was saying when he said that.

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/joriszwart/status/1446890217114382337?t=Ewlb5A8-nbTmD8aEllTJCA&s=08

Imagine there being consequences for actions, not sure that was part of the Brexit thinking here.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/nashsgc/status/1447489333678809089?s=21

Former negotiator on what’s happening just now.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/tconnellyrte/status/1447502843456499714?s=21

How independent Ireland is refocusing its trade directly to Europe. This is what an independent Scotland will have to do as well. Will result in much bigger port facilities at Rosyth and Leith.


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[JeMeSouviens]

https://twitter.com/tconnellyrte/status/1447502843456499714?s=21

How independent Ireland is refocusing its trade directly to Europe. This is what an independent Scotland will have to do as well. Will result in much bigger port facilities at Rosyth and Leith.


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Wee tangent - I wonder if the environmental cost of travelling by sea is better or worse than the majority of the journey being overland?

[Ozyhibby]

Wee tangent - I wonder if the environmental cost of travelling by sea is better or worse than the majority of the journey being overland?

I would think maybe sea is worse just because I’ve read articles on the pollution these big ship cause but that is a total guess.


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[JeMeSouviens]

I would think maybe sea is worse just because I’ve read articles on the pollution these big ship cause but that is a total guess.


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Better for CO2, worse for other pollutants, it turns out.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265185644_Road_versus_short_sea_shipping_comparing _emissions_and_external_costs

Nice visual summary (SSS = Short Sea Shipping) :greengrin

https://i.ibb.co/y0jgQsB/Screenshot-2021-10-12-at-11-51-02.png

Although among the conclusions are that shipping has the potential to get much better if emission standards enforced similar to road.

[lapsedhibee]

Better for CO2, worse for other pollutants, it turns out.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265185644_Road_versus_short_sea_shipping_comparing _emissions_and_external_costs

Nice visual summary (SSS = Short Sea Shipping) :greengrin

https://i.ibb.co/y0jgQsB/Screenshot-2021-10-12-at-11-51-02.png

Although among the conclusions are that shipping has the potential to get much better if emission standards enforced similar to road.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/swedish-firm-wind-powered-cargo-ships

[Jack]

https://twitter.com/tconnellyrte/status/1447502843456499714?s=21

How independent Ireland is refocusing its trade directly to Europe. This is what an independent Scotland will have to do as well. Will result in much bigger port facilities at Rosyth and Leith.


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I don't think the Forth Ports Authority has any intention of developing Leith, other than for movies and the like. I feel any ambition for deep berths would have happened by now with the lucrative cruising market providing the spur. They'll just stick with, the much cheaper, Rosyth.

On the point of the ships. Modern ships are about as eco friendly as you can get, even cruise ships with 5,000 wasteful passengers on board!

It's the old ships that are causing all the eco warriors to get humpty and by far most of these dirty ship operate in the Far East. They probably wouldn't be allowed to operate in Europe.

[Hibernia&Alba]

A pathological and incorrigible liar. Now he's trying to destroy the NI protocol.


https://youtu.be/KNQieRppQSQ

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[stokesmessiah]

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His tweets are easy to read….

[He's here!]

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And he accuses the PM of 'babbling'? Who can take Cummings seriously any more? Cracking campaigner to have on your side but now a bitter has-been.

[Ozyhibby]

And he accuses the PM of 'babbling'? Who can take Cummings seriously any more? Cracking campaigner to have on your side but now a bitter has-been.

Just because he’s attacking your guy now, we all have to stop taking him seriously?


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[He's here!]

Just because he’s attacking your guy now, we all have to stop taking him seriously?


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Do you take Salmond seriously these days?

[Radium]

And he accuses the PM of 'babbling'? Who can take Cummings seriously any more? Cracking campaigner to have on your side but now a bitter has-been.

Cummings has been spurned so taking anything he says at face value is naive. There’s also the trap that because he is kicking the guy you don’t support, you jump too quickly to believe everything he says.

I do think that having plotters like Cummings at the heart of one of the leave campaigns and thereafter the Conservative party reflects a lack of moral compass. The Moto seems to be, win at any cost and we will work the rest out later.

As you say, he is an astute campaigner and is certainly not stupid. He put £360 million on the side of a bus and destroyed days of campaigning for the remain camp.

He said this in the summer

“If VL (Vote Leave) had run things from 6/16 (June 2016, when the referendum was held) we’d have refused checks in Irish Sea or to build anything on Ireland border.

“And we’d have pointed out GFA has f*** all to do with Brussels!

“Ireland would have been a bit messy but so what? It’s a small problem relative to others,” Mr Cummings said.

“NI would have been a minor part of the negotiations if we’d run them from 6/16, because we’d have made clear we’d have acted unilaterally if they d**ked around babbling about GFA etc,” he tweeted.

which lines up with his opinion that NI / GFS doesn’t matter. Lord Frost now has the opportunity to show how much it does…

… but wasn’t the deal oven ready…


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[Ozyhibby]

Do you take Salmond seriously these days?

Not as much as you do these days.[emoji23]


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[Ozyhibby]

EU making some pretty big concessions on Irish Sea Border. Great news for Scottish Independence.


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[Hibrandenburg]

An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.



https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/from-germany-the-uk-appears-ever-more-dysfunctional-and-absurd

[Ozyhibby]

An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.



https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/from-germany-the-uk-appears-ever-more-dysfunctional-and-absurd

This one by Paul Mason makes good points as well. It will be ignored though.

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/labour-has-no-hope-of-defeating-the-conservatives-until-it-answers-the-brexit-question


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[Hibrandenburg]

This one by Paul Mason makes good points as well. It will be ignored though.

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/labour-has-no-hope-of-defeating-the-conservatives-until-it-answers-the-brexit-question


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It's behind a pay wall for me Oz, I do like vary my reading sources, I'm just not too keen on paying to do so. :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

It's behind a pay wall for me Oz, I do like vary my reading sources, I'm just not too keen on paying to do so. :greengrin

...


Labour has no hope of defeating the Conservatives until it answers the Brexit question
The alternatives to a hard Brexit are well known and entirely possible to achieve.

By Paul Mason

The Conservatives are running a regime of crisis. Ten months into the Covid-19 vaccination programme, Britain has the highest infection rate in western Europe.

We are missing not only 100,000 HGV drivers but the same number of care home workers. Firms making steel, ceramics and cement glass are on the verge of collapse due to the gas price spike. A shortage of abattoir workers has already led 650 pigs to be culled.

But the government has learned to revel in chaos. It has threatened to pull the plug on the Northern Ireland protocol, which would plunge the peace process into turmoil and spark a trade war with Europe. It is also at war with itself over whether to let vital manufacturing firms live or die. It is a chaos engine.

But crisis turns out to be the most profitable modus operandi for Boris Johnson. The pattern was established early in the pandemic: incompetence, passivity and absence followed by aggressive buck-passing and rhetoric of “sunny uplands”. And it paid off.

No matter how many bodies in the morgue or how long the petrol queue, nothing can dent the Tories’ poll lead because every crisis situation feeds the conservative impulse among the two groups that form the Tory coalition: elderly, white middle-class people in southern England and elderly white working-class people in northern England.

The same social coalition that brought us Brexit seems happy enough to live with the consequences: a permanent trade crisis and a disintegrating democracy. Do they care that the Conservative Party has become a machine for organised corruption, running a conveyor belt from the dodgy end of finance into the House of Lords? Not enough to risk a non-Tory government.

And should the supply chain crisis, the labour shortage and the perpetual diplomatic war with Europe fail to weld middle England to the Tories, there is always the unexploded constitutional bomb of Scotland to do the job.

At the Conservative Party conference, speaker after speaker lined up not only to oppose Scottish independence and a second referendum, but to declare that they would “never allow” them to happen. And in the conservative press, a narrative is being constructed around Scottish disloyalty and threats to national security.

The former defence secretary Michael Fallon warned this week that Scottish independence “would weaken Nato and would play into the hands of our adversaries, especially those in Moscow, Beijing, Pyongyang and Tehran who wish us harm”.

Meanwhile, the Scottish conservative commentator Iain Martin laid into an SNP MP for suggesting a post-independence defence pact, customs union and banking union. Martin tweeted: “Why would England or English voters agree to any of this? A hostile power to the north again. One of the main original reasons for the Union from an English perspective would be undone.”

This, then, is the emerging logic of Tory thinking. Play hardball with Europe over the Northern Ireland protocol, pick fight after fight with France – over fishing rights, submarines and migrant crossings – all in preparation for a decisive showdown over Scotland.

If they can paint Scottish independence as the next existential threat (following Europe and Covid) to the UK, and depict Labour as soft on the issue, they can stiffen the conservative impulse in middle England, setting the stage for yet another “crisis election” whose timing will be choreographed around any bid by Holyrood to hold a second referendum. The result would ensure two decades of Tory rule.

The opposition parties are failing to land a blow on Johnson because they are playing the wrong game. Since 2014, when Scottish independence was averted by chicanery and duplicity among politicians, business and the media, the UK has been in a rolling constitutional crisis.

The referendum accelerated the desertion of Ed Miliband’s Labour Party by English voters. Then Labour itself ceased to be a stable pillar of the British state, becoming instead a warzone between its radicalised membership and its MPs. Then Brexit happened, followed by three years of political crisis characterised by government attacks on the judiciary, lies to the monarchy and the unlawful prorogation of parliament.

But at Labour’s conference in September, nobody wanted to mention Scotland or Brexit. Labour is trying to fight the Conservatives on the terrain of competence, honesty and mild redistribution. Here, ironically, there is complete continuity between Starmer and Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, both driven by the conviction that talking loudly enough about something else will make Britain’s constitutional and geostrategic issues go away.

Miliband’s defeat in 2015 should have killed forever the “one more heave” philosophy that lurks behind all Labour thinking. Instead, it has been replaced by a naive hope: that “one more crisis” will break people’s emotional attachment to the Tory party.

Maybe, once the care homes close their doors, the shops run out of Christmas tat, the garage forecourts fill with angry motorists again, the steel industry collapses under the gas price surge and the docks pile high with undelivered goods, something will snap. But don’t count on it.

What will defeat this chaos-addicted government is a clear alternative. Not just on economic and social priorities, but on trade, geopolitics and the constitution.

And that means confronting the issue of Brexit. The Conservatives chose a hard Brexit: skills shortages, goods shortages and energy shortages are the result. They sold British voters the fantasy of a “global” buccaneering nation, reliving its colonial heyday, at the very moment the world economy began to harden into rival continental blocs. The result is geopolitical isolation, severe stress in the supply chain and the accelerated break-up of Britain.

There is only one logical escape route from ten years of continuous crisis, corruption and incoherence. And it is not some kind of mild, “normal” Labour government. The electoral advances required look impossible.

The solution is a Labour-led coalition that drives radical constitutional change, creating the conditions to keep Johnson and his right-wing populist crew out of office. That coalition is unachievable without an honest and open alternative to a hard Brexit.

Britain cannot and should not return to the EU. But the alternatives to a hard Brexit are well known and entirely possible to achieve with good will: Britain should seek entry either to “the” or “a” single market for goods, reintegrate into European energy and labour markets, and resume strategic partnership over security and defence. That would solve the Northern Ireland border issue and remove the threat of trade friction across Britain in the event of Scottish independence.

A Labour-led coalition would, by its very design, be obliged to permit a second Scottish vote. But if, along the way, it delivered radical electoral reform and accelerated devolution, this might help to soften support for outright independence in favour of a federal system.

Until opposition politicians learn to see the nature of the conflict clearly, they can’t fight it effectively. The Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu reduced all conflict to two kinds of force: the ordinary and the extraordinary – and wrote that it is the latter that wins the battle. For Johnson, maladministration and graft is the ordinary force; chaos politics the extraordinary one.

Until it stops ignoring the big, emotive issues driving the chaos – Brexit chief among them – Labour will have no extraordinary counterforce to match.

[Kato]

What I'm picking up from both articles above is that in Germany there is, however imperfect, an attempt at running their country with some kind of social contract as a given. In this country there is such thought for a social contarct even allowed and the country is run for the benefit of a 5% who thrive on disaster capitalism aided and abetted by the absolute idiots in the elctorate who fall for dafty things like flags and sovereignty.

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[hibsbollah]

An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.



https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/from-germany-the-uk-appears-ever-more-dysfunctional-and-absurd

Very good article. Having the choice to ‘become’ European again sadly isn’t an option for most people. It’s definitely something ive been thinking about.

[lapsedhibee]

An article from the New Statesman that felt about right to me.



https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/from-germany-the-uk-appears-ever-more-dysfunctional-and-absurd

It'll be more than just from Germany, though. The whole world and half of Britain, if they're paying attention, will be thinking the same way.

[Hibrandenburg]

...

Thanks JMS and Oz. That is a decent description of the current situation, although I can't agree with his conclusion as to how we get out of it. The next Westminster Labour government is only a prelude to the next Westminster Tory government, there's another way out of this for Scotland.

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/bbcdebatenight/status/1448405789857751044

[JimBHibees]

https://twitter.com/bbcdebatenight/status/1448405789857751044

Ironic the programme was on BBC who are in a similar state of denial re brexit as Uk ministers.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/peston/status/1448647813189885963?s=21

Peston now saying we are heading into recession. He has form for predicting financial meltdown. The Brexit recession is on the way.


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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/peston/status/1448647813189885963?s=21

Peston now saying we are heading into recession. He has form for predicting financial meltdown. The Brexit recession is on the way.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkA big money maker for those in a position to bet on it happening.

https://i.ibb.co/swXR9zm/Screenshot-20211014-162038-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/VSk9Y5j)

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211014/663d51c2b60a9bb7d395d217f7afbcff.jpg

Brexit bonus.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://sluggerotoole.com/2021/10/11/the-union-will-not-survive-the-end-of-the-ni-protocol/


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[Kato]

https://sluggerotoole.com/2021/10/11/the-union-will-not-survive-the-end-of-the-ni-protocol/


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe number of which is....


"The UK government is doing this not because it has a practical dispute over trade flow, but because it wishes to divert attention away from its own incompetence back home."

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[norhfc]

I recognised myself in that New Statesman piece. Last month I received my Norwegian citizenship after about a years process with language/citizenship tests. I have an appointment next month for my new Norwegian passport. I was so fuming with the Brexit result it was a very easy decision for me. Most of the expat community here have done the same thing, although there are a couple of little Englanders I know who refuse, claiming they would never carry another countries passport. I on the other hand am embarrassed with the British one, I will keep it but cant see me using it anytime soon. I do travel regulary and there was no way anybody was taking my freedom of movement away from me.

[Ozyhibby]

I recognised myself in that New Statesman piece. Last month I received my Norwegian citizenship after about a years process with language/citizenship tests. I have an appointment next month for my new Norwegian passport. I was so fuming with the Brexit result it was a very easy decision for me. Most of the expat community here have done the same thing, although there are a couple of little Englanders I know who refuse, claiming they would never carry another countries passport. I on the other hand am embarrassed with the British one, I will keep it but cant see me using it anytime soon. I do travel regulary and there was no way anybody was taking my freedom of movement away from me.

Got Irish passports for myself and the family. I genuinely thought we wouldn’t leave the SM and CU. More fool me.


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[Peevemor]

Got Irish passports for myself and the family. I genuinely thought we wouldn’t leave the SM and CU. More fool me.

I recently had my application for a French 10 year resident's permit approved and have been summoned to the regional council headquarters on Tuesday afternoon for fingerprinting etc..

I'm hoping that Scotland is independent & back in the EU by the time it expires!

[greenginger]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211014/663d51c2b60a9bb7d395d217f7afbcff.jpg

Brexit bonus.


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I don’t know where these charts come from.

here are the latest IMF

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02784/SN02784.pdf

[wookie70]

I don’t know where these charts come from.

here are the latest IMF

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02784/SN02784.pdf

Different time periods

[greenginger]

Y
Different time periods


The data I posted was from 12 th October 2021

[wookie70]

Y


The data I posted was from 12 th October 2021 I think one set started a year before the other

[mjhibby]

Ironic the programme was on BBC who are in a similar state of denial re brexit as Uk ministers.

Not just denial but totally devoid of reality. An utter disgrace that the bbc has been beaten down by the last tory govts and is now scared to report what is palpably true. I don't watch any TV news anymore. Its so obvious it's a doctored version of what I see day to day. Dare I say propaganda.

[greenginger]

I think one set started a year before the other


It still shows UK GDP to down 3.3% on pre-covid figures , exactly the same as France, exactly the same as Germany, and 0.2 % better than Italy .

Hardly worst in the G7 as the poster claimed.

[Jack]

Not just denial but totally devoid of reality. An utter disgrace that the bbc has been beaten down by the last tory govts and is now scared to report what is palpably true. I don't watch any TV news anymore. Its so obvious it's a doctored version of what I see day to day. Dare I say propaganda.

They're not scared of the tory government they are governed by one of their poster boys. Game, set and match.

[mjhibby]

They're not scared of the tory government they are governed by one of their poster boys. Game, set and match.

Not sure that's true. More concerned with the continuation. Of the licence fee.

[Jack]

Not sure that's true. More concerned with the continuation. Of the licence fee.

It's not just one poster boy, the text below is from Wiki. There was controversy when Davie axed the Mash Report and was quoted as saying too much of BBC comedy was left wing. He also issued guidelines saying BBC staff should not be critical of the government when using [even private] social media.

"Some commentators, such as*Peter Oborne, have argued that there is a culture of "client journalism" which has flourished in recent years due to a closeness between the BBC and the ruling Conservative Party, which has led to their bias in favour of the establishment.[11]*For example, from 2008 to 2017,*Robbie Gibb*was head of the BBC Westminster and therefore in charge of the BBC's political programming. His brother,*Nick Gibb, is a Conservative MP and Minister for Schools, and Robbie Gibb took a job with*Theresa May*as Director of Communications immediately after resigning from the BBC. The incoming Director-General as of September 2020,*Tim Davie, is a former Conservative Party councilor. In addition, the new Chairman of the BBC, Richard Sharp, has donated over £400,000 to the Conservative Party since 2001

[Ozyhibby]

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[neil7908]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211018/eb441efbb85986d12056039945029333.jpg


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Absolute cringe. Country is suffering crisis on multiple fronts and this is what they are talking about?

[lapsedhibee]

Absolute cringe. Country is suffering crisis on multiple fronts and this is what they are talking about?

UKGov needs people to continue talking about the badness of the EU, indefinitely. Will not stop unless England wakes up, of which there is no sign.

[Northernhibee]

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Criminal to say pound, yet there she is outside a court not being arrested.

[lord bunberry]

Criminal to say pound, yet there she is outside a court not being arrested.
Who cares about this enough to make up a sign and go out and protest? How little has she got going on in her life for this to be so important, it’s laughable. It’s just another deflection from our government and idiots like her lap it up.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal – POLITICO (https://www.politico.eu/article/australian-trade-minister-leaves-uk-with-no-deal/?fbclid=IwAR2fc9RlEK8Yd1_9rNjmAXnU7SUse9f-2SdwWrn96kiTw4Rq4unZ-cKGmHA)


Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal

Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be.


oh well

[Smartie]

Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal – POLITICO (https://www.politico.eu/article/australian-trade-minister-leaves-uk-with-no-deal/?fbclid=IwAR2fc9RlEK8Yd1_9rNjmAXnU7SUse9f-2SdwWrn96kiTw4Rq4unZ-cKGmHA)


Australian trade minister leaves UK with no dealDan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be.


oh well


Was this not meant to be Beefy Botham's department?

[ballengeich]

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These people are not the full shilling.

[Lendo]

Who cares about this enough to make up a sign and go out and protest? How little has she got going on in her life for this to be so important, it’s laughable. It’s just another deflection from our government and idiots like her lap it up.

I said the same thing about the old boy that blocked a roundabout at Silverknowes because he was so upset about Spaces for People. How can this be the most important thing in their life to be upset about?

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/scotshodler/status/1450113836040822784?t=xFm0voepVuQbPsoQBkvyjw&s=08

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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/tesco-finland-brexit-products-295670/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Farage on Irish TV, agitating for Ireland to leave the EU. The expertise of this grifter is demonstrated: "Up the Ra".



https://youtu.be/S9NNtFT04ik

[Glory Lurker]

Farage on Irish TV, agitating for Ireland to leave the EU. The expertise of this grifter is demonstrated: "Up the Ra".



https://youtu.be/S9NNtFT04ik

"Grifter" is too polite. He's a dangerous man.

[Kato]

"Grifter" is too polite. He's a dangerous man.He's got a point given its going so well here......

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[neil7908]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/21/british-leavers-and-remainers-as-polarised-as-ever-survey-finds

I find it hard to stomach but we are now in a place where politicians, the media and huge chunks of voters will not ever allow Brexit to be anything other than a success. No amount of price rises, shortages or evidence will change their minds.

[ronaldo7]

https://www.nfus.org.uk/news/news/union-anger-at-new-zealand-trade-deal-announcement

Union Anger at New Zealand Trade Deal Announcement
Scotland’s farmers and crofters shut out of negotiations again

NFU Scotland has reacted with anger and dismay at the announcement of a further free trade deal that grants a major exporting nation unfettered access to the UK and offers virtually nothing to Scottish farmers, growers and crofters in return.

As with the Australian deal, the New Zealand negotiations have been concluded without proper parliamentary scrutiny. The Union believes this is vital but, with the continued absence of the promised Statutory Trade and Agriculture Commission, the UK Government has failed to establish a route to effective scrutiny.

#YOUYESYET

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.nfus.org.uk/news/news/union-anger-at-new-zealand-trade-deal-announcement

Union Anger at New Zealand Trade Deal Announcement
Scotland’s farmers and crofters shut out of negotiations again

NFU Scotland has reacted with anger and dismay at the announcement of a further free trade deal that grants a major exporting nation unfettered access to the UK and offers virtually nothing to Scottish farmers, growers and crofters in return.

As with the Australian deal, the New Zealand negotiations have been concluded without proper parliamentary scrutiny. The Union believes this is vital but, with the continued absence of the promised Statutory Trade and Agriculture Commission, the UK Government has failed to establish a route to effective scrutiny.

#YOUYESYET

Given how much some people are willing to sacrifice to save the union, I doubt this will matter a jot to them but there are people out there willing to be persuaded and we just have to keep chipping away at them.
At least with Brexit, we have demonstrable way of showing how we can improve the economy of Scotland.


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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.nfus.org.uk/news/news/union-anger-at-new-zealand-trade-deal-announcement

Union Anger at New Zealand Trade Deal Announcement
Scotland’s farmers and crofters shut out of negotiations again

NFU Scotland has reacted with anger and dismay at the announcement of a further free trade deal that grants a major exporting nation unfettered access to the UK and offers virtually nothing to Scottish farmers, growers and crofters in return.

As with the Australian deal, the New Zealand negotiations have been concluded without proper parliamentary scrutiny. The Union believes this is vital but, with the continued absence of the promised Statutory Trade and Agriculture Commission, the UK Government has failed to establish a route to effective scrutiny.

#YOUYESYET

Chief farming advocate Douglas Ross must have said it was alright. :rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/alextaylornews/status/1452184063024979971?s=21


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/brexit-raw-sewerage-water-treatment-b1915765.html?__twitter_impression=true

Another Brexit benefit. Hopefully this does not apply to Scotland.


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[tamig]

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/brexit-raw-sewerage-water-treatment-b1915765.html?__twitter_impression=true

Another Brexit benefit. Hopefully this does not apply to Scotland.


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Disgraceful. It will barely get a mention in the MSM. If at all.

[Moulin Yarns]

Disgraceful. It will barely get a mention in the MSM. If at all.

Is the independent newspaper not part of the MSM? 🤔😉

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/10/21/boris-johnson-faces-embarrassing-commons-rebellion-raw-sewage/

https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/science/1510023/boris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%2 51%24s&aoh=16350837295163&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fnews%2F science%2F1510023%2Fboris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change

[Mr Grieves]

https://twitter.com/PassionsJuice/status/1451869361678032902?t=0atpB4psk6guTaXgAbWf8A&s=19

Watch to the end :faf:

[lord bunberry]

https://twitter.com/PassionsJuice/status/1451869361678032902?t=0atpB4psk6guTaXgAbWf8A&s=19

Watch to the end :faf:
You genuinely couldn’t make that up :faf:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rik Mayall knew


all those years ago

Marina Purkiss on Twitter: "How do we feel about this? Something that Rik Mayall once portrayed magnificently as pure satire …is now our very own Govt policy https://t.co/HA9IEVn013" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1451916626471923712?fbclid=IwAR2CizzPtJNYuHRKg3pyM F8l9rIxwbGRtNyFdINq_O9Zbv5auy6Hhs1N2A8)

[cabbageandribs1875]

stool brittania....eek

25228


coming to shores/rivers near you, down south anyway

[tamig]

Is the independent newspaper not part of the MSM? 🤔😉

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/10/21/boris-johnson-faces-embarrassing-commons-rebellion-raw-sewage/

https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/science/1510023/boris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%2 51%24s&aoh=16350837295163&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fnews%2F science%2F1510023%2Fboris-johnson-tory-rebellion-commons-environmental-bill-cop26-climate-change

Fair point. I lazily never searched before posting. The Independent are part of the MSM of course, but I meant the more right wing elements as well as the beeb. And you’ve just provided examples from those areas 😳

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm not too sure if this is photoshopped

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/247672094_4939195839437646_5220391557996335308_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=etGLyRz069sAX8Dk4um&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=33fb17ca89da387edc38294dd23e9475&oe=619D47DD

[degenerated]

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/brexit-raw-sewerage-water-treatment-b1915765.html?__twitter_impression=true

Another Brexit benefit. Hopefully this does not apply to Scotland.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt shouldn't however given that all the Tory MPs from Scottish constituencies voted for it, despite it being devolved, it wouldn't surprise me if they are planning to run roughshod over Holyrood again.

[Moulin Yarns]

It shouldn't however given that all the Tory MPs from Scottish constituencies voted for it, despite it being devolved, it wouldn't surprise me if they are planning to run roughshod over Holyrood again.

Control of such things is run by SEPA I don't think there is any chance that the legislation will change up here.

[ronaldo7]

i'm not too sure if this is photoshopped

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/247672094_4939195839437646_5220391557996335308_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=etGLyRz069sAX8Dk4um&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=33fb17ca89da387edc38294dd23e9475&oe=619D47DD

#Turdreich on the twittersphere is very apt for these Tory turds.

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Is this what the EU meant by Turd country status?

[Ozyhibby]

Control of such things is run by SEPA I don't think there is any chance that the legislation will change up here.

Pretty sure our water supply isn’t privatised anyway so no way SG would allow it.
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[Ozyhibby]

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/bbcbreakfast/status/1452882664206311429?s=21


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[Ozyhibby]

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[silverhibee]

https://twitter.com/PassionsJuice/status/1451869361678032902?t=0atpB4psk6guTaXgAbWf8A&s=19

Watch to the end :faf:

A life line for the guy to get back to his old ways, absolutely mental.

[cabbageandribs1875]

#Turdreich on the twittersphere is very apt for these Tory turds.

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Is this what the EU meant by Turd country status?




British fish will be even happier now getting to feast on all those extra nutrients, just think how juicier they will taste as well knowing what their diet will consist of, it's just another upside of Brexit

[JimBHibees]

Chief farming advocate Douglas Ross must have said it was alright. :rolleyes:

Was he not voted in on the back of protecting farmers and fisheries in his area. Guy has an absolute neck of brass

[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/27/freight-traffic-between-britain-and-dublin-has-dropped-by-a-fifth-since-brexit?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true


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