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Stairway 2 7
17-03-2022, 10:47 PM
Yes, I info I read was a bit sketchy. DP World wholly owned by Dubai Royal family . They do have links with a Russian partnership.

https://www.dpworld.com/news/releases/dp-world-and-rosatom-sign-agreement-for-northern-transit-corridor/


Still don't quite understand the benefit to us of freeports. They are being sold as a Brexit benefit, Dubai owning a London Freeport.

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Brexit and benefits don't go unfortunately as you know. Will help the trillionares in dubai make more money I'm sure though

cabbageandribs1875
18-03-2022, 03:35 AM
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Mr Brexit was a name given to me by Donald Trump and it has stuck. Outside of London, I get treated as a hero and never have to buy a drink. In London, I need full-time security!





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grunt
18-03-2022, 09:49 AM
Commons Public Accounts Committee report on trade deals after Brexit:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deals-benefits-pac-b2038227.html


Brexit trade deals may not deliver any ‘actual economic benefits’, MPs warn

cabbageandribs1875
19-03-2022, 10:56 PM
oh dear, the guy is a MORON

Boris compares Ukraine's fight for freedom to UK voting for Brexit (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/boris-compares-ukraine-s-fight-for-freedom-to-uk-voting-for-brexit/ar-AAVgJ9W?ocid=msedgntp)


Boris Johnson (https://metro.co.uk/tag/boris-johnson/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK1) has been branded ‘a national embarrassment’ after he compared the struggle of Ukrainians fighting the Russian invasion to British people voting for Brexit (https://metro.co.uk/tag/brexit/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK2).



Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, branded the prime minister a ‘national embarrassment’ and compared him to the Faulty Towers character Basil Fawlty.


more like Worzel Gummidge

degenerated
20-03-2022, 06:05 AM
oh dear, the guy is a MORON

Boris compares Ukraine's fight for freedom to UK voting for Brexit (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/boris-compares-ukraine-s-fight-for-freedom-to-uk-voting-for-brexit/ar-AAVgJ9W?ocid=msedgntp)


Boris Johnson (https://metro.co.uk/tag/boris-johnson/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK1) has been branded ‘a national embarrassment’ after he compared the struggle of Ukrainians fighting the Russian invasion to British people voting for Brexit (https://metro.co.uk/tag/brexit/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK2).



Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, branded the prime minister a ‘national embarrassment’ and compared him to the Faulty Towers character Basil Fawlty.


more like Worzel Gummidge
Can't wait to hear how the resident unionists try and spin this one.

Hibrandenburg
20-03-2022, 06:20 AM
Can't wait to hear how the resident unionists try and spin this one.Please stop calling them unionists, it's derogatory. They like to be known as "Proud Scots who prefer Scotland to be ruled by a government that sits in a foreign capital city outwith Scotland's borders".

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degenerated
20-03-2022, 06:22 AM
Please stop calling them unionists, it's derogatory. They like to be known as "Proud Scots who prefer Scotland to be ruled by a government that sits in a foreign capital city outwith Scotland's borders".

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Skol
20-03-2022, 06:50 AM
Can't wait to hear how the resident unionists try and spin this one.

The assumption that every ‘unionist’ is aTory. Lol.

degenerated
20-03-2022, 06:54 AM
The assumption that every ‘unionist’ is aTory. Lol.:hilarious

Eaststand
20-03-2022, 07:25 AM
Please stop calling them unionists, it's derogatory. They like to be known as "Proud Scots who prefer Scotland to be ruled by a government that sits in a foreign capital city outwith Scotland's borders".

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This gets my vote as post of the year 👍

GGTTH

Ozyhibby
20-03-2022, 07:32 AM
The assumption that every ‘unionist’ is aTory. Lol.

It’s the biggest of the unionist parties and the level of tactical voting shows that most are comfortable with them. Also, given that Westminster delivers Tory govts consistently means that if you support the union then your comfy with consistent Tory governments. You might think a Labour govt would be nice but reality is, it rarely happens and we get the Tories time after time.


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Moulin Yarns
20-03-2022, 07:48 AM
Please stop calling them unionists, it's derogatory. They like to be known as "Proud Scots who prefer Scotland to be ruled by a government that sits in a foreign capital city outwith Scotland's borders".

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I think the new name for them is

Proud
Royalists
And
Tory
Supporters

😉

Bostonhibby
20-03-2022, 07:49 AM
oh dear, the guy is a MORON

Boris compares Ukraine's fight for freedom to UK voting for Brexit (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/boris-compares-ukraine-s-fight-for-freedom-to-uk-voting-for-brexit/ar-AAVgJ9W?ocid=msedgntp)


Boris Johnson (https://metro.co.uk/tag/boris-johnson/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK1) has been branded ‘a national embarrassment’ after he compared the struggle of Ukrainians fighting the Russian invasion to British people voting for Brexit (https://metro.co.uk/tag/brexit/?ico=auto_link_news_P1_LNK2).



Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, branded the prime minister a ‘national embarrassment’ and compared him to the Faulty Towers character Basil Fawlty.


more like Worzel Gummidge
Shameless and utterly without boundaries.

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Skol
20-03-2022, 07:51 AM
I think the new name for them is

Proud
Royalists
And
Tory
Supporters

😉

Could be worse and at least it’s accepted I am not a Jambo.

Steven79
20-03-2022, 07:51 AM
It’s the biggest of the unionist parties and the level of tactical voting shows that most are comfortable with them. Also, given that Westminster delivers Tory govts consistently means that if you support the union then your comfy with consistent Tory governments. You might think a Labour govt would be nice but reality is, it rarely happens and we get the Tories time after time.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLabour have went so far to the right they are more Tory than many Tory Governments of the past.

The fact that they have a sir in charge would leave their founders turning in their graves.

But the only way they will ever get elected in England is by moving to the right as unlike in Scotland that's the only way to get voted in down south.

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Ozyhibby
23-03-2022, 10:59 AM
https://www.cityam.com/brexit-costs-brits-face-staggering-e18-fee-on-uk-eu-bank-transfers-and-atm-withdrawals-in-europe/

Another Brexit win.[emoji106][emoji849]


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Kato
23-03-2022, 11:15 AM
https://www.cityam.com/brexit-costs-brits-face-staggering-e18-fee-on-uk-eu-bank-transfers-and-atm-withdrawals-in-europe/

Another Brexit win.[emoji106][emoji849]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat'll teach EU's to meddle with us.

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Ozyhibby
23-03-2022, 05:52 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/b9352def96c53b7cb6462d1ac46c5893.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/a1f9c1facf2b580371dfd575cd79ebe6.jpg

From the Office of Budget Responsibility.

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Kato
23-03-2022, 10:43 PM
Kirsty Wark is a "journalist".


https://twitter.com/tom_dog_1/status/1506761824561254404?t=ncQPz1IR_PAzPOEM4syyQg&s=19

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grunt
24-03-2022, 09:34 AM
https://twitter.com/br_nning/status/1506894520423788545?s=20&t=Mpv5qnTIrlYDeHCEN4bHJA


Second round of talks tomorrow in Bruxelles, when Biden is talking to EU leaders, will be without Johnson. Johnson was desperate to attend. Let’s remember that Brexit means Brexit. Uk have deliberately and stupidly given up its seat in the Eu council.

Kato
24-03-2022, 09:41 AM
https://twitter.com/br_nning/status/1506894520423788545?s=20&t=Mpv5qnTIrlYDeHCEN4bHJAI'd keep him away as well. Given Johnson's Russian connections even our own secret services deemed him a security risk.

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grunt
24-03-2022, 10:00 AM
The Government's own Office for Budget Responsibility (whose role is to provide independent and authoritative analysis of the UK’s public finances) notes that we haven't bounced back after the pandemic like other G7 countries. Wonder why that is? :dunno:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOm-Su8X0AECbtX?format=jpg&name=medium

grunt
24-03-2022, 11:39 AM
Here's Rees-Mogg lying about a Brexit benefit

https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1506692562169602057?s=20&t=4YY3j3cwt30QzTeBMkyXHQ

WhileTheChief..
24-03-2022, 12:31 PM
Every reply to that Tweet says it's good news. There is no mention of Reese-Mogg anywhere.

CropleyWasGod
24-03-2022, 12:36 PM
Every reply to that Tweet says it's good news. There is no mention of Reese-Mogg anywhere.

I must have a different Twitter to you 😁

grunt
24-03-2022, 12:41 PM
Every reply to that Tweet says it's good news. There is no mention of Reese-Mogg anywhere.Is that how Twitter works? You only see what you want to see or replies that support your views?

Kato
24-03-2022, 01:06 PM
Every reply to that Tweet says it's good news. There is no mention of Reese-Mogg anywhere.It's still a lie though.

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grunt
24-03-2022, 01:42 PM
Every reply to that Tweet says it's good news. There is no mention of Reese-Mogg anywhere.
Uh, the tweet I linked to was written by him?

lapsedhibee
24-03-2022, 01:57 PM
Is that how Twitter works? You only see what you want to see or replies that support your views?

Only sees Darren Grimes, John Redwood, Rishi Sunak and Andrew Neil. Every angle covered. :faf:

WhileTheChief..
24-03-2022, 02:01 PM
I must have a different Twitter to you ��

Yeah it took me to a different thread. D’oh, sorry folks!!

edit, I was reading the hm treasury one

Just Alf
24-03-2022, 05:24 PM
Yeah it took me to a different thread. D’oh, sorry folks!!

edit, I was reading the hm treasury oneGlad it's not just me that does stuff like that! :greengrin

grunt
26-03-2022, 07:06 AM
Brexit benefits ... for the rest of the world

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOwiMnuXMAAJGRK?format=png&name=900x900

Ozyhibby
26-03-2022, 08:27 AM
https://twitter.com/russincheshire/status/1507641982763556864?s=21&t=N_KzxjEXD4w3dnX6LTsZ0g

Any ideas why our exports haven’t recovered?


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Bostonhibby
26-03-2022, 08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/russincheshire/status/1507641982763556864?s=21&t=N_KzxjEXD4w3dnX6LTsZ0g

Any ideas why our exports haven’t recovered?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJeremy Corbyn again?

Think I read somewhere it was Remoaners too.

The Daily Mail must be running out of options.

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grunt
26-03-2022, 10:32 AM
Thank you Brexit people.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOxcIo4WYAAvFFf?format=jpg&name=large


Exports growth looks set to remain sluggish as UK exporters continued to be slowly cut out of global supply chains, due to the extra administrative burden for EU firms of sourcing goods from Britain

Kato
26-03-2022, 11:07 AM
Jeremy Corbyn again?

Think I read somewhere it was Remoaners too.

The Daily Mail must be running out of options.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkIt must be either Jeremy Corbyn or the whole population not closing their eyes tight enough when wishing Brexit to work.

Here's Mark Francois explaining that the EU are determined to punish us because we are "heretics" to the faith of the EU project. The punishment seems to be taking the shape of treating the UK as though its no longer a member of the EU.

https://twitter.com/LizWebsterLD/status/1507667477278375941?t=Jm4qylWv9sb5H8XZtZSt2w&s=19

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Jack
26-03-2022, 11:15 AM
I saw on the news yesterday the EU and USA had agreed a huge deal on gas in a bid to reduce the EU reliance on Russian gas. (I do hope the USA realise their gas and our gas are different things 😆)

The UK isn't a part of this deal and while we know we only get between 6% and 8% of our gas from Russia I think its better to be in these things rather than excluded and not having a choice.

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 11:26 AM
I saw on the news yesterday the EU and USA had agreed a huge deal on gas in a bid to reduce the EU reliance on Russian gas. (I do hope the USA realise their gas and our gas are different things 😆)

The UK isn't a part of this deal and while we know we only get between 6% and 8% of our gas from Russia I think its better to be in these things rather than excluded and not having a choice.

Uk is pretty well shielded from Russian gas. Hopefully it puts all regions into full pelt at renewables. Germany and other European countries should have seen this happening 10 years ago, even the nitwit trump was shouting about how crazy a dependency to Russia was.

We'll get most of our shortfall from another disgusting regime in Saudi Arabia. We should have invested in nuclear 20 years ago like France. The big winners are the US they are selling to the EU at 35% higher than Russia and have massive reserves

Bostonhibby
26-03-2022, 11:27 AM
It must be either Jeremy Corbyn or the whole population not closing their eyes tight enough when wishing Brexit to work.

Here's Mark Francois explaining that the EU are determined to punish us because we are "heretics" to the faith of the EU project. The punishment seems to be taking the shape of treating the UK as though its no longer a member of the EU.

https://twitter.com/LizWebsterLD/status/1507667477278375941?t=Jm4qylWv9sb5H8XZtZSt2w&s=19

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkMarc Francois[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Folk voted for him as well.

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Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 11:32 AM
It must be either Jeremy Corbyn or the whole population not closing their eyes tight enough when wishing Brexit to work.

Here's Mark Francois explaining that the EU are determined to punish us because we are "heretics" to the faith of the EU project. The punishment seems to be taking the shape of treating the UK as though its no longer a member of the EU.

https://twitter.com/LizWebsterLD/status/1507667477278375941?t=Jm4qylWv9sb5H8XZtZSt2w&s=19

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For as much as I would have loved Corbyn to have had a shot in power. I think he was at best on the fence on brexit probably pro leave, like Tony Benn ect. Hated big business EU.

lapsedhibee
26-03-2022, 01:38 PM
Jeremy Corbyn again?

Think I read somewhere it was Remoaners too.

The Daily Mail must be running out of options.



Wokery also causes a lot of terrible things.

Mr Grieves
29-03-2022, 05:48 AM
Sunak admits UK’s dismal recent trade ‘might’ be linked to Brexit

https://www.ft.com/content/484db1cf-e65e-49b3-a71e-fdd915a874a6?sharetype=blocked

Kato
29-03-2022, 09:09 AM
Sunak admits UK’s dismal recent trade ‘might’ be linked to Brexit

https://www.ft.com/content/484db1cf-e65e-49b3-a71e-fdd915a874a6?sharetype=blockedAfter we hit the summit uplands and the resulting no difference to trade with EU "it was always inevitable trade would be hit".

I sometimes think that I don't understand the English language anymore they way these clowns twist it.

https://twitter.com/ukiswitheu/status/1508553885882933257?t=mvA9m6jk2k8393H2nzng4w&s=19

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Ozyhibby
29-03-2022, 10:11 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220329/eadf4b2f0abd59a0122b5b7ebc2dc18f.jpg

EU countries can export to Scotland hassle free while Scottish companies have miles of red tape imposed upon us by the Tories.


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Kato
29-03-2022, 10:32 PM
Wokery also causes a lot of terrible things.https://twitter.com/paulwall1970/status/1508922977500475397?t=A4lu1nvnN56Mk0uV-NwJaQ&s=19

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lapsedhibee
30-03-2022, 06:14 AM
https://twitter.com/paulwall1970/status/1508922977500475397?t=A4lu1nvnN56Mk0uV-NwJaQ&s=19


The EUSSR are still trying to swamp our freedoms, from all directions and in all sorts of ways. But they won't manage it, as we shall never surrender. The Ploughman's Sandwich has been a thing since the beginning of time, and possibly even before that. Certainly since the 1950s, when all ploughmen, and only ploughmen, had penises. Right is right and left is bad. Think that's the gist of that thread. :dunno:

grunt
30-03-2022, 01:31 PM
The EUSSR are still trying to swamp our freedoms, from all directions and in all sorts of ways. But they won't manage it, as we shall never surrender. The Ploughman's Sandwich has been a thing since the beginning of time, and possibly even before that. Certainly since the 1950s, when all ploughmen, and only ploughmen, had penises. Right is right and left is bad. Think that's the gist of that thread. :dunno:Thanks for, er, summarising ...

cabbageandribs1875
31-03-2022, 08:57 PM
nah, shirly not it can't be

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPKi2_lXwAU5kpS?format=jpg&name=large

lapsedhibee
01-04-2022, 08:02 PM
They need us more than we need them, prosecco, BMWs, bla bla bla

https://twitter.com/BrexitBin/status/1509879965793370120

grunt
03-04-2022, 04:57 PM
UK exporters are struggling – and it isn’t hard to see why

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/28f2b090-b1e0-11ec-9af1-7ee554784c95?shareToken=329453fe23e4fba410ef8e0785 6bef3c


Lost in the statistical flurry last month was the news that the UK’s trade deficit in January was easily the biggest on record, at a huge £26.5 billion for goods, and £16.2 billion for goods and services taken together.


It is too late to do anything about the main cause of this malaise: an economically damaging Brexit done in such a way that little or no thought was given to the consequences. As far as trade is concerned, things are panning out in the manner once stupidly dismissed as “Project Fear”. And we will be poorer as a result.

Ozyhibby
03-04-2022, 05:02 PM
UK exporters are struggling – and it isn’t hard to see why

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/28f2b090-b1e0-11ec-9af1-7ee554784c95?shareToken=329453fe23e4fba410ef8e0785 6bef3c

Scotland can start a recovery from this by voting for Indy and a return to the EU. An EU which is going to get a lot bigger over the next decade.


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Kato
04-04-2022, 09:24 AM
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1510894150715117569?t=8kLFz85u4Sp9zXM39-cgDw&s=19




Does anyone still believe these grifters?

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cabbageandribs1875
04-04-2022, 03:59 PM
Farage congratulates Viktor Orban

Nigel Farage on Twitter: "Congratulations to Viktor Orbán!🗳" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1510881124297367553)

Stairway 2 7
04-04-2022, 04:00 PM
Farage congratulates Viktor Orban

Nigel Farage on Twitter: "Congratulations to Viktor Orbán!🗳" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1510881124297367553)

Parasite

Ozyhibby
05-04-2022, 04:30 PM
https://twitter.com/dennisnovy/status/1511020340541116419?s=21&t=Ghd7y6IzGH_nbn8xzr4BYQ

This thread is pretty damming.


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grunt
06-04-2022, 04:48 PM
Brexit is a criminal act.

Here's the summary from the (cross-party) Environment Select Committee report into “acute labour shortages” in agriculture, due to Brexit and Covid. 500,000 vacancies causing…


crops to go unharvested, left to rot in fields.
healthy pigs culled
disruption to food supply.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPq6QNwXsAkM2Ai?format=jpg&name=large

Callum_62
06-04-2022, 05:22 PM
Brexit is a criminal act.

Here's the summary from the (cross-party) Environment Select Committee report into “acute labour shortages” in agriculture, due to Brexit and Covid. 500,000 vacancies causing…


crops to go unharvested, left to rot in fields.
healthy pigs culled
disruption to food supply.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPq6QNwXsAkM2Ai?format=jpg&name=largeDidn't Johnson say the pigs were gonna die anyway?
No biggie then

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lapsedhibee
06-04-2022, 05:29 PM
Didn't Johnson say the pigs were gonna die anyway?
No biggie then


Afghan pets > Afghan people > UK pigs. Think that's the pecking order, though not completely sure about the last two.

Ozyhibby
06-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Afghan pets > Afghan people > UK pigs. Think that's the pecking order, though not completely sure about the last two.

Wonder where Scottish people rank?[emoji51]


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ronaldo7
11-04-2022, 03:46 PM
The Tories just keep on giving. :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-61039876

Five hundred tonnes of beetroot is being left to rot due to a collapse in demand, caused by Brexit, a farmer says.

Will Woodhall grows beetroot and spring onions alongside cereals at his farm in Penkridge, Staffordshire.

He expects to lose up to £90,000 after border rules introduced in January has seen firms in the EU look elsewhere, particularly for perishable goods.

Mr Woodhall said he expected to turn the crop into compost instead.

"I was driving down the road and got a phone call," he said. "I was expecting it to be, 'Can we have five more loads please?' but it was 'That's it - no more homes for it.'

"I've been trying to get rid of it left, right and centre, trying food schemes and various things. But haulage is an issue and no-one wants to pay for it."

Ozyhibby
11-04-2022, 06:43 PM
https://www.cityam.com/brexit-onslaught-deepens-as-a-third-of-all-uk-firms-exporting-to-eu-simply-vanish-due-to-red-tape-knockout/

All going swimmingly.


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Jack
11-04-2022, 07:11 PM
I bought a set of pots and pans on a great deal from Spain, less than half the UK price of £320.

I thought I'd get whacked with tax but it didn't happen!

Was I lucky?

Will I be in the Rushi Sunak tax avoidance jail?

Hibrandenburg
11-04-2022, 08:04 PM
I bought a set of pots and pans on a great deal from Spain, less than half the UK price of £320.

I thought I'd get whacked with tax but it didn't happen!

Was I lucky?

Will I be in the Rushi Sunak tax avoidance jail?

Reported.

Jack
11-04-2022, 08:37 PM
Reported.

I've now reported myself to my next-door neighbour who is also a Hibs supporter so I'm sure everything will be fine.

Hibrandenburg
12-04-2022, 03:38 AM
If it's just a neighbour you've reported it to, then that's just gossip. For it to be grassing you need to at least involve a Hibs Net Admin Prick.

Crunchie
12-04-2022, 06:15 AM
For as much as I would have loved Corbyn to have had a shot in power. I think he was at best on the fence on brexit probably pro leave, like Tony Benn ect. Hated big business EU.
Corbyn, Benn and many others saw the EU for what it was/is.

Kato
12-04-2022, 07:41 AM
Corbyn, Benn and many others saw the EU for what it was/is.Benn was talking from a post WW2/Cold War perspective. Corbyn, reluctantly because a lot of his politics stem from that time, wanted to stay.


What is the EU from your point if view?

What good things have come out of leaving?

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Crunchie
12-04-2022, 07:56 AM
Benn was talking from a post WW2/Cold War perspective. Corbyn, reluctantly because a lot of his politics stem from that time, wanted to stay.


What is the EU from your point if view?

What good things have come out of leaving?

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Point 1 corrupt organisation full of individuals out to line their own pockets. The Kinnock's being an obvious example.
Point 2 the benefit's were never going to be seen short term but the war and covid have obviously played a huge part. Despite what you read on here everyone is suffering.

I could list another 100+ reasons regarding the EU but I haven't got the time nor the inclination to do so.

Stairway 2 7
12-04-2022, 08:03 AM
Benn was talking from a post WW2/Cold War perspective. Corbyn, reluctantly because a lot of his politics stem from that time, wanted to stay.


What is the EU from your point if view?

What good things have come out of leaving?

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Chukka umanna and others left because Corbyns non committal on brexit and labour being too left wing. I know lots of socialists and militant tendency that wanted brexit. They say Europe can never be socialist in the EU with its big business capitalist club. I agree with that, EU is centre politics and very capitalist, but unfortunately the benefits massively outlay the negatives. Some socialist articles saying they want brexit

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/e/brexit-deal-priorities-socialist-left

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/socialism-can-never-be-delivered-while-we-remain-in-the-eus-capitalist-club

Article in the spectator worrying that brexit could usher in a socialist Britain
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-boris-pushing-for-a-socialist-brexit-/amp

lapsedhibee
12-04-2022, 08:21 AM
Point 1 corrupt organisation full of individuals out to line their own pockets.

Thank goodness we've insulated ourselves from that now.

Crunchie
12-04-2022, 08:23 AM
Thank goodness we've insulated ourselves from that now.
Let's not kid ourselves that whoever's in power won't have individuals who'll be in it for themselves. Prescott and Blair spring to mind.

grunt
12-04-2022, 08:43 AM
Let's not kid ourselves that whoever's in power won't have individuals who'll be in it for themselves. Prescott and Blair spring to mind.
So, if everyone is in it for themselves, and with the Tories we have mountains of evidence at least that they are ripping us off, doesn't that make your supposed criticism of the EU somewhat redundant?

I noticed that you skipped listing the benefits of Brexit and that they were "never going to be seen short term". Just for the record, could you let us know what the long term benefits are going to be so we've got something to look forward to? Thanks.

Kato
12-04-2022, 09:18 AM
Point 1 corrupt organisation full of individuals out to line their own pockets. The Kinnock's being an obvious example.
Point 2 the benefit's were never going to be seen short term but the war and covid have obviously played a huge part. Despite what you read on here everyone is suffering.

I could list another 100+ reasons regarding the EU but I haven't got the time nor the inclination to do so.No you couldn't your just making stuff up. It's a hallmark of everything to do with Brexit that stuff is just made up on the spot to avoid discussion. That because the discussion always leads to us being worse off.

Bet you couldn't make up 100 reasons though.

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Hibernia&Alba
12-04-2022, 01:11 PM
https://youtu.be/N1Xcy-q9KE4

Ozyhibby
13-04-2022, 04:19 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220413/8334431b6ad205e4b1cd9af5f4bbda50.jpg

This can’t be right? Aren’t they still in the EU?


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Stairway 2 7
13-04-2022, 04:27 PM
Needs must as people are toiling. The greens were unhappy when uk gov froze it last year, but things have changed unfortunately. Some of the price increases are disgusting

cabbageandribs1875
13-04-2022, 11:19 PM
tbf it's only some brexiteers that appear not to 'get it' https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/277820143_348146370676152_1707307016749253674_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=XL9twYPM5yIAX_1YvZW&tn=vIvSFNl06GFFe0Qb&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9SDBhlACpbgYTjYv5epuMqi8jhWyY2axOax8A24c8T uw&oe=625BDA1A

degenerated
14-04-2022, 11:18 AM
tbf it's only some brexiteers that appear not to 'get it' https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/277820143_348146370676152_1707307016749253674_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=XL9twYPM5yIAX_1YvZW&tn=vIvSFNl06GFFe0Qb&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9SDBhlACpbgYTjYv5epuMqi8jhWyY2axOax8A24c8T uw&oe=625BDA1AJamie McMillan, the guy who claims he didn't bother to vote in the EU referendum, he's also against the only route that he has back into the EU market.

ronaldo7
14-04-2022, 06:41 PM
Remember when the Tories said they'd match the EU Funding when we left the EU...They lied.

https://www.gov.scot/news/eu-replacement-funding-gbp-151-million-less-in-first-year/

Business Minister Ivan McKee has said the UK Government’s Shared Prosperity Fund fails to deliver promised funding for Scotland following the UK’s exit from the European Union.

New arrangements published today will see £32 million allocated to Scotland for 2022-2023 - £151 million short of the £183 million estimated to be an appropriate replacement for EU Structural Funds.

Since 2016, Ministers have tried to engage constructively with the UK Government to ensure the Shared Prosperity Fund aligned with the Scottish Government’s national aims and ambitions. However, Scottish Ministers have been given no role in deciding how funding is allocated and which projects deliver the maximum benefits. Mr McKee says this undermines the devolution settlement and does not recognise the authority of the Scottish Government in devolved areas.

Commenting on the launch of the Fund, Mr McKee said:

“The UK Government’s Shared Prosperity Fund fails to deliver replacement funding which was promised to Scotland, meaning communities across the country will miss out on around £150 million of investment in 2022-23. This demonstrates exactly why Levelling Up means losing out as Scotland will receive considerably less funding than before Brexit.

“EU funding has supported infrastructure projects and community initiatives across the country since the 1970s, with Scotland receiving and delivering over £6 billion of EU Structural Funds. Transformational projects, such as the University of the Highlands and Islands and the European Marine Energy Centre in Orkney, have brought significant benefits to businesses and communities. It is hugely disappointing that future projects with as much potential may lose out.

“Since 2016 the Scottish Government has tried to engage constructively with the UK Government to ensure this Fund was delivered in a meaningful way, consistent with the devolution settlement and aligned with our national economic aims and ambitions. However, the UK Government has undermined devolution by failing to give the Scottish Government a decision-making role - which ultimately fails to meet the needs of Scotland’s communities.”

Background

The Shared Prosperity Fund will see Scotland allocated £32 million in 2022-2023, £55 million in 2023-24 and £125 million in 2024-25. Even the third year of funding delivers less than Scotland received before the UK’s EU Exit.

The Scottish Government has calculated a sum of £162 million per year would be needed to replace the European Regional Development Fund and European Social Fund, increasing to £183 million per year when LEADER funding and the EU Territorial Cooperation Programmes are added in.

Bostonhibby
21-04-2022, 07:42 AM
https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1516902338644041729?t=P9pkgJZHnSuiUO1o_9xmCg&s=08

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Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 08:04 AM
Brilliant that alot of bams voted brexit to stop immigration. But to get trade deals they have to increase immigration ha

Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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Greetings from Ahmadabad where Boris Johnson landed early this morning. He's hinted he may be willing to offer concessions on immigration to get a trade deal this year - story
@theipaper
: https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/

lapsedhibee
21-04-2022, 08:13 AM
https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1516902338644041729?t=P9pkgJZHnSuiUO1o_9xmCg&s=08


Very poor thread. No mention at all of whether the bottles of wine are happier in the new arrangements. :bitchy:

Keith_M
21-04-2022, 08:28 AM
I see nobody's mentioned the biggest benefit of Brexit, the fact that we now have happy British fish.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiKmqY_RNME

Keith_M
21-04-2022, 08:29 AM
Oh and lest we forget....


25806

Bostonhibby
21-04-2022, 08:48 AM
Very poor thread. No mention at all of whether the bottles of wine are happier in the new arrangements. :bitchy:They're getting together with the fish later.

Fish in our time.

More expensive wine later.

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Bostonhibby
21-04-2022, 09:06 AM
Brilliant that alot of bams voted brexit to stop immigration. But to get trade deals they have to increase immigration ha

Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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Greetings from Ahmadabad where Boris Johnson landed early this morning. He's hinted he may be willing to offer concessions on immigration to get a trade deal this year - story
@theipaper
: https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/A big market with no red tape and free movement would be ideal. Trouble with India is it's a big market but has all sort of government red tape and rules and low environmental standards.

And corruption, like the EU corruption our government so wanted to avoid.


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JeMeSouviens
21-04-2022, 09:53 AM
I bought a set of pots and pans on a great deal from Spain, less than half the UK price of £320.

I thought I'd get whacked with tax but it didn't happen!

Was I lucky?

Will I be in the Rushi Sunak tax avoidance jail?

The retailer can sort the duty/vat etc on your behalf and leave you with no tax to pay, so it could be ok. Would have been in the small print of your order.

Bristolhibby
21-04-2022, 10:45 AM
Brilliant that alot of bams voted brexit to stop immigration. But to get trade deals they have to increase immigration ha

Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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Greetings from Ahmadabad where Boris Johnson landed early this morning. He's hinted he may be willing to offer concessions on immigration to get a trade deal this year - story
@theipaper
: https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/

Even worse for the Brexit bams is it will be brown skinned immigration not white Europeans. They will get more of the very immigrants they wanted to see less of.

Glorious irony. I don’t mind the U.K. and Scotland needs more working age people, it’s just that doesn’t fit the narrative of “we are full up”, “what about the homeless veterans” that was used to sell BREXIT.

J

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 11:22 AM
Even worse for the Brexit bams is it will be brown skinned immigration not white Europeans. They will get more of the very immigrants they wanted to see less of.

Glorious irony. I don’t mind the U.K. and Scotland needs more working age people, it’s just that doesn’t fit the narrative of “we are full up”, “what about the homeless veterans” that was used to sell BREXIT.

J

Indeed. I argued with a racist at my old work before the vote. He was saying all the Indians and Pakistanis would be away after brexit. This is how geographically poor these clowns are.

This deal also shows I think that the tories still want cheap foreign labour, but pushed immigration as it would be popular sadly.

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:06 AM
Brilliant immigration should go through the roof 👍. Sure the leave voters will be delighted

Harry Cole
@MrHarryCole
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Boris Johnson says a Brexit free trade deal with India can be signed ‘by the autumn’ and hints it will include visas

Glory Lurker
22-04-2022, 04:40 PM
You'd have thought current events nearer to home would have taught us not to sook up to corrupt large powers just cos there might be money in it.

Kato
22-04-2022, 04:53 PM
You'd have thought current events nearer to home would have taught us not to sook up to corrupt large powers just cos there might be money in it.Why? They have gotten away with taking money from Putin's pals so far, probably still are.

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grunt
25-04-2022, 06:14 PM
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/how-brexit-could-become-the-new-killer-on-britains-roads/


Deadly Divergence: How Brexit could become the new killer on Britain’s roads



Jacob Rees-Mogg says we should ignore an EU push for speed limiters in cars - but it has the potential to save more lives than seat belts

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 06:19 PM
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/how-brexit-could-become-the-new-killer-on-britains-roads/

Right or wrong, I'd reckon the majority in the uk would be against speed limited cars. How many lives would be saved making the motorways 50 mph. I guess it's the balance we need to find. Although in 30 years most will probably be driverless anyway

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 08:06 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deals-australia-new-zealand-b1959478.html
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Callum_62
25-04-2022, 08:51 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deals-australia-new-zealand-b1959478.html
[emoji102][emoji51]


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That's pure priceless

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cabbageandribs1875
26-04-2022, 09:47 PM
i for one can't wait for this Brexit to happen, and don't forget another bonus....£350m towards the NHS as well, what's not to like man

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grunt
28-04-2022, 04:18 PM
https://westcountryvoices.co.uk/pride-and-shame/


Though it saddens me beyond words to say it, it’s some years now since I could say I felt proud to be British. To those fake patriots who’d ask me why I hate my country so much, I’d answer that I don’t: I just hate what they’ve done to it.

grunt
28-04-2022, 04:19 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-27/brexit-explains-80-of-u-k-inflation-former-boe-official-says


Brexit Explains 80% of U.K. Inflation, Former BOE Official Says

ballengeich
28-04-2022, 06:52 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61259832

So EU businesses exporting to the UK will not have costs, but UK businesses exporting to the EU will. The only way the EU will remove checks is if the UK rejoins the common trading area.

Glory Lurker
28-04-2022, 08:02 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61259832

So EU businesses exporting to the UK will not have costs, but UK businesses exporting to the EU will. The only way the EU will remove checks is if the UK rejoins the common trading area.

The writer must have been giggling when writing that it could be an incentive for EU to lower its checks in response.

Ozyhibby
28-04-2022, 09:09 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61259832

So EU businesses exporting to the UK will not have costs, but UK businesses exporting to the EU will. The only way the EU will remove checks is if the UK rejoins the common trading area.

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Ozyhibby
28-04-2022, 10:37 PM
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1519700895830884352?s=21&t=NZ6H-_gB3w87h0Tj2ydp_Q

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Stairway 2 7
29-04-2022, 07:37 AM
I'm usually all for very loose borders. But I notice James Corden has just quit the late show after 8 years. Hopefully the torys do what they do best and close the borders

Jones28
29-04-2022, 08:52 AM
Brilliant immigration should go through the roof 👍. Sure the leave voters will be delighted

Harry Cole
@MrHarryCole
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Boris Johnson says a Brexit free trade deal with India can be signed ‘by the autumn’ and hints it will include visas

That should be good news for the people that voted for Brexit because they don't like Pakistanis.

JeMeSouviens
29-04-2022, 09:14 AM
I'm usually all for very loose borders. But I notice James Corden has just quit the late show after 8 years. Hopefully the torys do what they do best and close the borders

The borders are never closed to rich white people, ever.

Ozyhibby
30-04-2022, 09:29 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/29/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-disaster-leaving-eu-boris-johnson?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


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Stairway 2 7
30-04-2022, 02:53 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1520336571945426945

Guy Verhofstadt
@guyverhofstadt
BREAKING — Conference on the Future of Europe approves radical overhaul of the EU: end of unanimity, abolishment of veto’s, launch of Joint Armed Forces of the Union, transnational lists and many other reforms

Stairway 2 7
02-05-2022, 03:49 PM
Brexiters won't be happy. Immigration will break records this year. They will go from being largely white to being mostly brown, which will fry their racist minds

Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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1h
Brexit/migration
@spectator
✅ 'plan for Brexit was to swap low-skilled EU migrants for more highly-skilled ones from further afield' https://spectator.co.uk/article/brexits-potential-is-beginning-to-be-realised
@edwest
❌ 'almost comical result of Brexit is that immigration is set to continue at record levels' https://edwest.substack.com/p/the-brexiteers-had-one-job

Polls show public concern about migration has fallen sharply since Brexit; will this continue if govt breaks its promise to cut overall numbers

grunt
02-05-2022, 04:40 PM
Polls show public concern about migration has fallen sharply since Brexit; will this continue if govt breaks its promise to cut overall numbers
Government will either lie, or lean on the puppet media to suppress reporting of the numbers.

Or both.

Bostonhibby
02-05-2022, 04:42 PM
Government will either lie, or lean on the puppet media to suppress reporting of the numbers.

Or both.I'm thinking both is a possibility

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lapsedhibee
02-05-2022, 04:43 PM
I'm thinking both is a possibility


Certainty.

Bostonhibby
02-05-2022, 04:53 PM
Certainty.What we need is an enquiry, or enquiries, led by Bozos pal Lord Geidt the "independent" adviser on ministerial conduct.

Ideally keeping everything that's worth looking at in the very long grass until after the next election, or alternatively he instantly clears them of all impropriety.

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Stairway 2 7
02-05-2022, 05:16 PM
Surely it's starmers job to bring it up also as they are publicly available. Immigration is up, the tories could be called the party of immigration, sure the red wall bigots would like that.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/yearendingjune2021

The size of the foreign-born population in the UK increased from about 5.3 million in 2004 to almost 9.5 million in 2019 In the year ending June 2021, the non-UK-born population was an estimated 9.6 million 14% of population

39% of Londoners were born abroad, 9% in Scotland

In 2019, India, Poland and Pakistan were the top three countries of birth for the foreign-born, accounting respectively for 9%, 9% and 6% of the total

grunt
02-05-2022, 05:33 PM
Surely it's starmers job to bring it up also as they are publicly available. Immigration is up, the tories could be called the party of immigration, sure the red wall bigots would like that.
Obvious response if Starmer brings up the question of immigration numbers, "are you suggesting that immigration is bad for the UK?" It's a no win position for him.

Stairway 2 7
02-05-2022, 05:50 PM
Obvious response if Starmer brings up the question of immigration numbers, "are you suggesting that immigration is bad for the UK?" It's a no win position for him.

True, although boris will eventually bring up rawanda as that isn't over. So he just says with record numbers of immigration, how is the uk going to afford this inhumane plan

Bostonhibby
02-05-2022, 06:06 PM
True, although boris will eventually bring up rawanda as that isn't over. So he just says with record numbers of immigration, how is the uk going to afford this inhumane planThey dont actually have to do anything about the Rwandan plan, just stick it on the side of a bus that they are, that's enough for a large swathe of nasty party supporters.

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Ozyhibby
02-05-2022, 10:12 PM
https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1521031266988171264?s=21&t=YO3KbPvsKgBgVZjmXsdXlw


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Ozyhibby
02-05-2022, 10:54 PM
https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1520743390639529984?s=21&t=YO3KbPvsKgBgVZjmXsdXlw
Prices 4% higher because of Brexit.


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grunt
05-05-2022, 01:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR_5N7MVEAIZ9cD?format=jpg&name=medium

Hibrandenburg
05-05-2022, 03:11 PM
https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1520743390639529984?s=21&t=YO3KbPvsKgBgVZjmXsdXlw
Prices 4% higher because of Brexit.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkRelatively speaking, the poorer the poor are then the richer the rich are. They don't give a **** about 4% on their new Mercedes-Benz whereas 4% for some means having to scrimp enough together to put food on the table.

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Ozyhibby
05-05-2022, 08:49 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220505/ae34c2976caa26e92a0065a457b1f2d6.jpg

Brexit bonus.[emoji849]


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Kato
05-05-2022, 10:27 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220505/ae34c2976caa26e92a0065a457b1f2d6.jpg

Brexit bonus.[emoji849]


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Bostonhibby
06-05-2022, 07:23 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220505/ae34c2976caa26e92a0065a457b1f2d6.jpg

Brexit bonus.[emoji849]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPresumably another one where we are beating the EU as they are likely to be applying their own standards to protecting their citizens?

I'll be paying more attention to food labelling.

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Ozyhibby
06-05-2022, 08:13 AM
Presumably another one where we are beating the EU as they are likely to be applying their own standards to protecting their citizens?

I'll be paying more attention to food labelling.

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I’m sure standard on food labelling will be going soon as well. They won’t want you being all sniffy about eating chlorinated chicken.


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Bostonhibby
06-05-2022, 08:19 AM
I’m sure standard on food labelling will be going soon as well. They won’t want you being all sniffy about eating chlorinated chicken.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI was thinking Fish in Our Time was enough of a slogan for Bozo on this front but the potential is seemingly unlimited, spin it as ready salted chicken to a grateful nation.

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Stairway 2 7
06-05-2022, 05:30 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220505/ae34c2976caa26e92a0065a457b1f2d6.jpg

Brexit bonus.[emoji849]


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Is that a parody

Bostonhibby
06-05-2022, 05:37 PM
Is that a parodyNope, it's definitely a prime minister, the figure on the left is also having his picture taken having sold a load of fish his country thought they'd have to incinerate.

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CropleyWasGod
07-05-2022, 05:20 PM
Seeing quite a few instances of bands coming from the US for European tours and missing out the UK.

grunt
11-05-2022, 08:44 PM
Tories get a written warning on NI Protocol from the US

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSgE_NfWYAEhl1B?format=jpg&name=large

grunt
11-05-2022, 08:48 PM
Also Brussels setting out their position on NI Protocol.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSgLmRHWUAM2PDf?format=jpg&name=large

Glory Lurker
11-05-2022, 08:58 PM
Russia would just love more EU turmoil.

grunt
11-05-2022, 09:05 PM
Russia would just love more EU turmoil.

Are you suggesting that the UK Govt is working on behalf of Putin?

Glory Lurker
11-05-2022, 09:15 PM
Are you suggesting that the UK Govt is working on behalf of Putin?

No.

Ozyhibby
11-05-2022, 09:34 PM
Russia would just love more EU turmoil.

The EU is pretty united on this issue.[emoji6][emoji23]


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Stairway 2 7
11-05-2022, 09:39 PM
Russia would just love more EU turmoil.

The days of Russian influence are over for at least a decade, so it doesn't really matter what Russia thinks anymore.

It matters what eu and the US thinks unfortunately for the tories

Kato
11-05-2022, 11:12 PM
The days of Russian influence are over for at least a decade, so it doesn't really matter what Russia thinks anymore.

Their influence is still being felt though. They've paid money to sow division, that's enough. Maybe not as much division as they wanted but the US still has a QAnon fruitloop problem and the UK is out of the EU.

Armoured cars back on the streets of NI and a UK press screeching at the EU suits them.

It's all about wrecking, doesn't matter what is being wrecked as long as something is.

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Stairway 2 7
12-05-2022, 01:20 AM
Their influence is still being felt though. They've paid money to sow division, that's enough. Maybe not as much division as they wanted but the US still has a QAnon fruitloop problem and the UK is out of the EU.

Armoured cars back on the streets of NI and a UK press screeching at the EU suits them.

It's all about wrecking, doesn't matter what is being wrecked as long as something is.

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The west has never been as united as it is now in decades.
Eu and noto will be larger imminently and Finland in nato on its border in particular.

The northern Ireland conflict is low low down on Russian radar. We amplify our issues, but it really isn't big news on the world stage.

Russia isn't a James bond super villian and it's poor army has shown that. The US nutters aren't because of Russia. The uk is out of the EU because of anti immigration English.

greenlex
12-05-2022, 07:41 AM
The west has never been as united as it is now in decades.
Eu and noto will be larger imminently and Finland in nato on its border in particular.

The northern Ireland conflict is low low down on Russian radar. We amplify our issues, but it really isn't big news on the world stage.

Russia isn't a James bond super villian and it's poor army has shown that. The US nutters aren't because of Russia. The uk is out of the EU because of anti immigration English.
You don’t think Russia tried to influence the Brexit vote to try and weaken the EU or they tried to influence US elections and minds?

Stairway 2 7
12-05-2022, 09:01 AM
You don’t think Russia tried to influence the Brexit vote to try and weaken the EU or they tried to influence US elections and minds?

They definitely did. But would have happened regardless. I think the biggest factor was probably immigration unfortunately. Russia will have no influence in the next 15 years, but the uk will still have shocking populist decisions with this government. Also a good chance trump will get in

Kato
12-05-2022, 10:11 AM
The west has never been as united as it is now in decades.
Eu and noto will be larger imminently and Finland in nato on its border in particular.

The northern Ireland conflict is low low down on Russian radar. We amplify our issues, but it really isn't big news on the world stage.

Russia isn't a James bond super villian and it's poor army has shown that. The US nutters aren't because of Russia. The uk is out of the EU because of anti immigration English.

Their elements within the West that are united but there elements which still side with Putin. Le Pen in France is financed by Russia. During the Cold War you didn't have Fox News giving the Russians a platform every night on US TV.

The expansion of Nato is maybe something they didn't factor in but Putin obviously hoped Trump would still have power and America might well have left.

The NI conflict is just that a conflict, that is what Putin has sought to increase and maintain, conflict within nations. It would be huge news in Europe if the UK were to put troops back on the streets there.

"US nutters" and "Anti immigration English" are exactly the aspects Putin has been financing to fit in with Dugin's view on geopolitics. Its not a given to claim this would have been successful without Russian money and Russian assests in place. Those elements in the UK and US didn't come to the fore in a vacuum, they've been carefully nurtured for years.

Whoever wins the war is one thing but Putins aim and the aim of the various 'right wing projects" he has financed is just to go to war. The wrecking is the whole point.

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Kato
12-05-2022, 10:12 AM
They definitely did. But would have happened regardless.

Respectfully disagree on that.

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grunt
12-05-2022, 10:34 AM
Respectfully disagree on that.

I agree with you. Brexit wouldn't have happened without the dodgy money from Russia(?) going to Arron Banks and funding UKIP.

Jones28
12-05-2022, 10:48 AM
They definitely did. But would have happened regardless. I think the biggest factor was probably immigration unfortunately. Russia will have no influence in the next 15 years, but the uk will still have shocking populist decisions with this government. Also a good chance trump will get in


Hmm I'm no so sure Brexit happens without the interference from Russia: the funding, the data analytics and Cambridge analytica, Aaron Banks and Vote Leave.

They've achieved their main goal, but agree with you that the Government are doing the Russians dirty work for them now.

Stairway 2 7
12-05-2022, 10:59 AM
Their elements within the West that are united but there elements which still side with Putin. Le Pen in France is financed by Russia. During the Cold War you didn't have Fox News giving the Russians a platform every night on US TV.

The expansion of Nato is maybe something they didn't factor in but Putin obviously hoped Trump would still have power and America might well have left.

The NI conflict is just that a conflict, that is what Putin has sought to increase and maintain, conflict within nations. It would be huge news in Europe if the UK were to put troops back on the streets there.

"US nutters" and "Anti immigration English" are exactly the aspects Putin has been financing to fit in with Dugin's view on geopolitics. Its not a given to claim this would have been successful without Russian money and Russian assests in place. Those elements in the UK and US didn't come to the fore in a vacuum, they've been carefully nurtured for years.

Whoever wins the war is one thing but Putins aim and the aim of the various 'right wing projects" he has financed is just to go to war. The wrecking is the whole point.

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But the whole point so many replies back is it doesn't matter what Russia thinks now as they are done as a global power. There army is a third to a half smaller and dropping. Economy is decimated. There main income in fuel will be closed to the west in the next year.

Politicians can't do business with Russia any time soon. Seem by le pen removing all reference and orban throwing them under the bus. The west has been united. Many countries have sent weapons for the first time ever. Its a huge blow for china's plans in Taiwan, as the west can be united in weapons, aid, companies pulling out and mass sanctions.

Nato expansion to Finland is a disaster to russia, bigger is the world findings out how week its army is. They won't have influence in the same way in decades, they are poison now thankfully.

Kato
12-05-2022, 12:59 PM
But the whole point so many replies back is it doesn't matter what Russia thinks now as they are done as a global power. There army is a third to a half smaller and dropping. Economy is decimated. There main income in fuel will be closed to the west in the next year.

Politicians can't do business with Russia any time soon. Seem by le pen removing all reference and orban throwing them under the bus. The west has been united. Many countries have sent weapons for the first time ever. Its a huge blow for china's plans in Taiwan, as the west can be united in weapons, aid, companies pulling out and mass sanctions.

Nato expansion to Finland is a disaster to russia, bigger is the world findings out how week its army is. They won't have influence in the same way in decades, they are poison now thankfully.But we are still living with the influence they have invested in. They have funded influential think tanks, the Tory Party, Brexit, institutions, universities have taken their money, a faith based anti-EU cult, the right wing press, the property market, the anti "woke brigade" brigade - that's all part of his geopolitical scheme. The geopolitics might not go any further but we are living and will live with its consequences for years. A lot of it will hinge on how things play out in the States, with Trumps supporters sounding exactly like those who appeased Hitler.

This is only the thin end of the wedge of Brexit, we will have to go through far more pain before anything gets better.

This is from Dugin's plan, 1997. We still live with that influence and the consequences.

https://i.ibb.co/zmqGM9b/20220225-094254.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/FX56HrS/20220225-094102.jpg

Stairway 2 7
12-05-2022, 01:51 PM
But we are still living with the influence they have invested in. They have funded influential think tanks, the Tory Party, Brexit, institutions, universities have taken their money, a faith based anti-EU cult, the right wing press, the property market, the anti "woke brigade" brigade - that's all part of his geopolitical scheme. The geopolitics might not go any further but we are living and will live with its consequences for years. A lot of it will hinge on how things play out in the States, with Trumps supporters sounding exactly like those who appeased Hitler.

This is only the thin end of the wedge of Brexit, we will have to go through far more pain before anything gets better.

This is from Dugin's plan, 1997. We still live with that influence and the consequences.

https://i.ibb.co/zmqGM9b/20220225-094254.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/FX56HrS/20220225-094102.jpg

Russia will have next to no influence in the following decades. But sadly I think things will just be as bad if not worse. Russia is just one of many that are pushing right wing populism. The greedy bs like the tories at the top don't need much help in being greedy. Might be pessimistic but I think things like Musk pushing free speach will do huge harm.

Kato
12-05-2022, 02:11 PM
Russia will have next to no influence in the following decades. But sadly I think things will just be as bad if not worse. Russia is just one of many that are pushing right wing populism. The greedy bs like the tories at the top don't need much help in being greedy. Might be pessimistic but I think things like Musk pushing free speach will do huge harm.Will anything have any influence in the following decades. This is their swansong before climate disaster hits, wreck everything.

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Stairway 2 7
12-05-2022, 02:14 PM
Will anything have any influence in the following decades. This is their swansong before climate disaster hits, wreck everything.

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Your as pessimistic as me ha, but sadly could be spot on

Kato
12-05-2022, 05:50 PM
Your as pessimistic as me ha, but sadly could be spot onIts not pessimism if its backed up with science. ;,)

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/SimonUbsdell/status/1524697086477975553?t=znMcZSR3S68ohWnpyRh4vg&s=19

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Ozyhibby
12-05-2022, 06:05 PM
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/economics-and-finance/the-true-economic-cost-of-brexit-is-finally-becoming-clear-trade

True cost of Brexit.


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Hibernia&Alba
13-05-2022, 02:18 PM
Shut it, you European slaaaaags


https://youtu.be/ErqFnrDbT3U

Colr
13-05-2022, 03:44 PM
Hmm I'm no so sure Brexit happens without the interference from Russia: the funding, the data analytics and Cambridge analytica, Aaron Banks and Vote Leave.

They've achieved their main goal, but agree with you that the Government are doing the Russians dirty work for them now.

There have been suggestions of Russian interference in the Scottish independence vote. I don’t know if there are grounds for that but I was suspicious of Corbyn’s win in the Labour leadership elections and that vote was really easy to corrupt with their pay £3 and get a vote even if you’re not a member idea.

Corbyn was pro Brexit as well so help that arm of their strategy to destabilise the west.

Glory Lurker
13-05-2022, 06:31 PM
Shut it, you European slaaaaags


https://youtu.be/ErqFnrDbT3U

Slaaaaaags européens, alstublieft! :-)

JeMeSouviens
17-05-2022, 09:28 AM
Boiling frogs ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSlk6zZXwAA5bx4?format=jpg&name=medium

Ozyhibby
17-05-2022, 10:08 AM
Boiling frogs ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSlk6zZXwAA5bx4?format=jpg&name=medium

At least Scotland has a way of getting back in. Not sure if we are smart enough to take it though.


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WhileTheChief..
17-05-2022, 11:25 AM
This thread is like stepping into a parallel universe of make-believe.

Kato
17-05-2022, 11:31 AM
This thread is like stepping into a parallel universe of make-believe.No. That was "Vote Leave's" campaign. This is the reality.

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James310
17-05-2022, 12:15 PM
At least Scotland has a way of getting back in. Not sure if we are smart enough to take it though.


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I thought the blueprint for the Scottish border with England was the Northern Ireland model? That's going really well.

Stairway 2 7
17-05-2022, 12:18 PM
I thought the blueprint for the Scottish border with England was the Northern Ireland model? That's going really well.

It could go very well for Northern Ireland people, with the benefits of being in Europe. But bad for rule britania nutters who prefer to be worse off to be British

James310
17-05-2022, 12:23 PM
It could go very well for Northern Ireland people, with the benefits of being in Europe. But bad for rule britania nutters who prefer to be worse off to be British

In the end it might, but so far it's been a shambles. Erecting hard borders is never a great idea for trade, anywhere.

I guess some nationalists could claim NI are taking the pain now and the end result could be the blueprint.

JeMeSouviens
17-05-2022, 12:24 PM
It could go very well for Northern Ireland people, with the benefits of being in Europe. But bad for rule britania nutters who prefer to be worse off to be British

It actually *is* going well for NI business.


The latest economic outlook from the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the Northern Ireland economy outperformed the UK average, and is now recovered to pre-pandemic levels.
It said Northern Ireland's trading conditions with the European Union (EU) are an economic advantage.
It said: "Northern Irish output, as measured by Gross Value Added (GVA) has slightly outperformed the UK average.
"This is partly an outcome of the Northern Irish Protocol and its special status in the Brexit arrangements, including better trade and investment conditions as part of the EU's single market and customs union."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-61385412

But the DUP et al haven't the wit to see and exploit their lucky break. :rolleyes:

I don't believe there is the faintest hope of the EU replicating these arrangements for an iScotland and I hope to god nobody campaigns on that basis in iref2.

Stairway 2 7
17-05-2022, 12:27 PM
In the end it might, but so far it's been a shambles. Erecting hard borders is never a great idea for trade, anywhere.

I guess some nationalists could claim NI are taking the pain now and the end result could be the blueprint.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/experts-brexit-protocol-is-boosting-northern-ireland-economy/amp/

Northern Ireland is outperforming the uk financially obviously. Its a shambles in the uk, because we stopped free trade with Europe. If the shambles is that independent Scotland outperforms the uk, that will be grand

CapitalGreen
17-05-2022, 01:18 PM
I thought the blueprint for the Scottish border with England was the Northern Ireland model? That's going really well.

I don’t think this is the clever point you thought it was. N Ireland is in a best of both worlds situation and most sane people there are happy with that, the ultra rabid Unionists less so.

James310
17-05-2022, 01:29 PM
I don’t think this is the clever point you thought it was. N Ireland is in a best of both worlds situation and most sane people there are happy with that, the ultra rabid Unionists less so.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/sturgeon-sees-ni-protocol-as-template-for-independent-scotland-in-eu-1.4550284

Nicola Sturgeon saw the protocol, the one that doesn't work as the template.

Plus it could take years for an independent Scotland to rejoin the EU, so transitional arrangements would be complex. But very much like the Brexiteers I am sure it will be worth it for some.

Jack
17-05-2022, 01:30 PM
In the end it might, but so far it's been a shambles. Erecting hard borders is never a great idea for trade, anywhere.

I guess some nationalists could claim NI are taking the pain now and the end result could be the blueprint.

It's only England that wants to build hard borders. That was the basis of Brexit.

Stairway 2 7
17-05-2022, 01:36 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/sturgeon-sees-ni-protocol-as-template-for-independent-scotland-in-eu-1.4550284

Nicola Sturgeon saw the protocol, the one that doesn't work as the template.

Plus it could take years for an independent Scotland to rejoin the EU, so transitional arrangements would be complex. But very much like the Brexiteers I am sure it will be worth it for some.

It does work for the Northern Irish. And yes your right we'd probably be stuck with brexit for a year or so sadly before getting the massive benefit of eu membership

Ozyhibby
17-05-2022, 03:34 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/sturgeon-sees-ni-protocol-as-template-for-independent-scotland-in-eu-1.4550284

Nicola Sturgeon saw the protocol, the one that doesn't work as the template.

Plus it could take years for an independent Scotland to rejoin the EU, so transitional arrangements would be complex. But very much like the Brexiteers I am sure it will be worth it for some.

Does the protocol not work? Who is saying that?


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ronaldo7
17-05-2022, 03:39 PM
Does the protocol not work? Who is saying that?


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A few in the DUP. Im sure if they tried, unionist would find businesses that are delighted with the protocol. It's just that it doesn't suit their narrative.

Stairway 2 7
17-05-2022, 03:41 PM
A few in the DUP. Im sure if they tried, unionist would find businesses that are delighted with the protocol. It's just that it doesn't suit their narrative.

Cut of your nose to suit your flute?

Ozyhibby
17-05-2022, 03:58 PM
A few in the DUP. Im sure if they tried, unionist would find businesses that are delighted with the protocol. It's just that it doesn't suit their narrative.

They also think the earth is only 6000 years old so shouldn’t we weight their opinion accordingly?


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JeMeSouviens
17-05-2022, 04:25 PM
The DUP are against the protocol for purely political reasons. Unionism has lost its majority. The "others" in the middle will now decide NI's constitutional future. Therefore Unionism needs NI to be tightly economically coupled to the UK and anything, no matter how economically successful it might be, that draws it into an all-Ireland/EU orbit is to be resisted with the usual red faced shouting. NEVER!

neil7908
17-05-2022, 04:45 PM
Whats Labour's stance on Brexit and the protocol again? They seem awfy quite suddenly...

Ozyhibby
17-05-2022, 04:57 PM
Whats Labour's stance on Brexit and the protocol again? They seem awfy quite suddenly...

Their stance is to pretend it didn’t happen and to never say the word. Real head in the sand stuff.


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Stairway 2 7
17-05-2022, 05:17 PM
Whats Labour's stance on Brexit and the protocol again? They seem awfy quite suddenly...

Think they are sort of, it happened so let's crack on. It's madness, this **** show should be front and centre of any attacks. Corbyn was obviously very on the fence which was a nightmare

grunt
17-05-2022, 05:55 PM
They won a GE by lying about a deal based on lies. They’ve lied about it ever since & now want to scrap part of the deal they lied about by lying about it again including breaking international law which they’re also lying about.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1526616756571234311?s=20&t=BUU1ZTOmjP3JtIE24N9HYQ

cabbageandribs1875
17-05-2022, 06:42 PM
well said

Adam Jogee on Twitter: "Chaotic scenes in Parliament 😂 https://t.co/cHyiW0H7mi" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AJogee/status/1526464308300992513?s=20&t=XAtGmC2xXm5A6aN3vbqYqg&fbclid=IwAR2ayuhvUgpyFgCvtMqS5K5DHqdczcVk8cM0CGxDT DtWTQB2DAeBTNl1-nY)


whilst the the pig just shakes his head

Bristolhibby
17-05-2022, 07:04 PM
Whats Labour's stance on Brexit and the protocol again? They seem awfy quite suddenly...

No need to shout while your opposition is making a chunt of themselves.

J

ronaldo7
17-05-2022, 07:36 PM
https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/1526597815803293697

grunt
20-05-2022, 06:47 AM
Seems pretty clear.


As I have stated in my conversations with the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary & Members of the House of Commons, if the United Kingdom chooses to undermine the Good Friday Accords, the Congress cannot & will not support a bilateral free trade agreement with the U.K.

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1527407803173838848?s=20&t=I3YYMeXa0_FG7igrPEnYgA

Ozyhibby
21-05-2022, 12:34 PM
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grunt
21-05-2022, 01:10 PM
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Pretty galling to realise that a significant element of the Netherlands increase in recent years has been down to UK business relocating there after Brexit. Mind-blowing stupidity on the part of the UK electorate.

Ozyhibby
21-05-2022, 06:07 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220521/fd6f5fbbfcceb28db166608f68bd7d23.jpg

It’s a mystery?


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Jack
21-05-2022, 06:50 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220521/fd6f5fbbfcceb28db166608f68bd7d23.jpg

It’s a mystery?


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Some tory will be along shortly suggesting Ukraine refugees should be 'employed' to work the fields as a condition of entry to the UK.

Stairway 2 7
22-05-2022, 11:10 AM
Brexit bonus, brain drain from the uk

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1528325936810274818

Phillips P. OBrien
@PhillipsPOBrien
This is the kind of thing that causes despair. Being Europe’s leading science and technology nation is crucial to the future of the U.K., yet its being threatened by pure political stupidity. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/

Bostonhibby
22-05-2022, 04:20 PM
Brexit bonus, brain drain from the uk

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1528325936810274818

Phillips P. OBrien
@PhillipsPOBrien
This is the kind of thing that causes despair. Being Europe’s leading science and technology nation is crucial to the future of the U.K., yet its being threatened by pure political stupidity. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/No problem, Bozo has promised all those visas to migrants from India so they are bound to be at least as good replacements.

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grunt
22-05-2022, 07:18 PM
https://twitter.com/RepBrendanBoyle/status/1528377204190728196?s=20&t=VhDt1ci13OkUiOvo6cGsWg


We call upon the UK to implement fully the NI Protocol, which avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland, preserves the integrity of the EU Internal Market, and protects the Good Friday Agreement in all its parts. We agree that renegotiating the Protocol is not an option.

Kato
22-05-2022, 07:57 PM
This David Canzini guy seems like one of those unelected officials all those Brexitys warned everyone about over and over and over again.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1528438587502387201?t=s2CqftVJy3fw2U7zKF_cEQ&s=19

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Ozyhibby
23-05-2022, 04:51 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220523/06dc82c454ef7e2155d940bd88259b04.jpg

World beating.


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cabbageandribs1875
23-05-2022, 10:22 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281728222_528289145396660_4114441553410301795_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=t7sWeA-Dt8UAX9zvhp1&_nc_oc=AQlrp8S8flh9EDEzcMkxyOIF9pg-Aox_ga59Ct7bC1oS602UxNiFlEQNdPPRKS8vLZM&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_zW98NbViYlf_uWdT0WK46y7Wf-su0FwCZ2Grp1tbDoQ&oe=6290C766



should be a scientific study done on Tory voters to find out why they vote for this lot

Steven79
24-05-2022, 07:55 AM
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should be a scientific study done on Tory voters to find out why they vote for this lotTory voters are either selfish toffs or deluded working class voters that think the likes of Boris and Rees-Mogg actually give a flying **** about them.

My inlaws are all brainwashed flag waving brexit voting English nationalists that can't have their Christmas diner without watching the Queen's speech first.

Needless to say I've not got much time for them...

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Jones28
24-05-2022, 08:27 AM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281728222_528289145396660_4114441553410301795_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=t7sWeA-Dt8UAX9zvhp1&_nc_oc=AQlrp8S8flh9EDEzcMkxyOIF9pg-Aox_ga59Ct7bC1oS602UxNiFlEQNdPPRKS8vLZM&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_zW98NbViYlf_uWdT0WK46y7Wf-su0FwCZ2Grp1tbDoQ&oe=6290C766



should be a scientific study done on Tory voters to find out why they vote for this lot

wELl aT lEaST iTs nOt CorBYnN

Kato
24-05-2022, 09:23 AM
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should be a scientific study done on Tory voters to find out why they vote for this lothttps://twitter.com/CPJenkinson1/status/1526431049063997440?t=lIUmNirooAwR5rkkNoV2vQ&s=19


Looks like we are in a pathocracy.

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SHODAN
24-05-2022, 10:30 AM
Think they are sort of, it happened so let's crack on. It's madness, this **** show should be front and centre of any attacks. Corbyn was obviously very on the fence which was a nightmare

The Brexit vote is required to win an election now.

Smartie
24-05-2022, 10:57 AM
The Brexit vote is required to win an election now.

Now that Brexit has happened, is there such a thing as "the Brexit vote" or is it more just a weird collection of British nationalists who might identify as anywhere on the left, right or centre of the political spectrum at any given time? Political leaders compete for their attention by seeing who can pose with the most union flags and attempting to be the most unpleasant to foreigners?

Bristolhibby
24-05-2022, 04:46 PM
Now that Brexit has happened, is there such a thing as "the Brexit vote" or is it more just a weird collection of British nationalists who might identify as anywhere on the left, right or centre of the political spectrum at any given time? Political leaders compete for their attention by seeing who can pose with the most union flags and attempting to be the most unpleasant to foreigners?

They will create one. The counter revolutionary argument.

They will take your BREXIT away. Vote for them and it’s a “COALITION OF CHAOS!”

You can almost predict it now.

J

Ozyhibby
25-05-2022, 09:06 AM
https://twitter.com/adamposen/status/1529111330258550784?s=21&t=A9vMd_fSTealgr3K2HTIKA

Brexit is the reason UK inflation higher than the EU.


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Bostonhibby
25-05-2022, 09:10 AM
https://twitter.com/adamposen/status/1529111330258550784?s=21&t=A9vMd_fSTealgr3K2HTIKA

Brexit is the reason UK inflation higher than the EU.


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If our government hadn't created such high inflation we wouldn't have taken back control of our monkey pox numbers, Bozo is running a war against poxy monkeys single handedly, between parties.

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Ozyhibby
27-05-2022, 01:07 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220527/cd3613665ec5914a2150ef7d75359bc1.jpg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-26/uk-risks-car-collapse-as-jaguar-land-rover-looks-elsewhere-for-batteries?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=bloomberguk&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-bloomberguk


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Jack
27-05-2022, 03:10 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220527/cd3613665ec5914a2150ef7d75359bc1.jpg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-26/uk-risks-car-collapse-as-jaguar-land-rover-looks-elsewhere-for-batteries?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=bloomberguk&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-bloomberguk


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It might be the UKs biggest car manufacturer but its fully owned by an Indian company Tata Motors.

Premature ejagulation: Indian company pulls out of UK within weeks of our world leading adulterer negotiating post Brexit deals in India.

Stairway 2 7
30-05-2022, 10:39 AM
3% of voters pre referendum though brexit would bring more immigration, 60% said less immigration. Tories are now trying to say they never said it would not go up, just that they would be in control of it

Immigration is at record levels this year. Instead of white Europeans it's mostly Indians, Pakistanis and Nigerians. I'm sure the brexit voting idiots will be happy with that 😆

Tories were always going to get workers to do the jobs they didn't want, they just wanted rid of they pesky employment laws

https://mobile.twitter.com/Will_Tanner/status/1531160998773723139

Bostonhibby
30-05-2022, 06:33 PM
https://twitter.com/LizWebsterLD/status/1531334347013365762?t=ABYsHdlL8zgURb4xFmsBQA&s=08

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At least we will have crowns on our pint glasses, that'll sort those yanks out

Ozyhibby
30-05-2022, 06:47 PM
https://twitter.com/LizWebsterLD/status/1531334347013365762?t=ABYsHdlL8zgURb4xFmsBQA&s=08

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At least we will have crowns on our pint glasses, that'll sort those yanks out

Time Scotland switched to the Euro.


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Bostonhibby
30-05-2022, 07:23 PM
Time Scotland switched to the Euro.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf the UK never had a far bigger priority of a jubilee piss up to sort out it might actually be not a bad idea for trading globally and benchmarking with the dollar if the £ did just that.

But hey, we've taken back control.

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James310
30-05-2022, 07:55 PM
Time Scotland switched to the Euro.


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Never going to happen.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19499617.poll-independence-support-fall-scotland-set-adopt-euro/


"Almost 40 per cent of Scots are less likely to back independence if separation plans appeared on course for the country adopting the euro currency, a new poll has revealed.

The poll by Redford and Wilton Strategies of 1,000 Scottish adults found that 39 per cent would be less likely to support the country’s separation from the rest of the UK if it would then be required to replace the pound with the European currency"

This goes back to what I said before, the SNP will never back anything radical (if you class joining the Euro as radical?) as it will hit the support for Independence. Only last week Ian Blackford was saying the pound could be kept for years in the event of Independence. Keep the pound, keep the Queen, keep the nukes, keep NATO membership...etc

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20157543.independent-scotland-keep-british-pound-years-ian-blackford-says/

Stairway 2 7
30-05-2022, 08:25 PM
Never going to happen.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19499617.poll-independence-support-fall-scotland-set-adopt-euro/


"Almost 40 per cent of Scots are less likely to back independence if separation plans appeared on course for the country adopting the euro currency, a new poll has revealed.

The poll by Redford and Wilton Strategies of 1,000 Scottish adults found that 39 per cent would be less likely to support the country’s separation from the rest of the UK if it would then be required to replace the pound with the European currency"

This goes back to what I said before, the SNP will never back anything radical (if you class joining the Euro as radical?) as it will hit the support for Independence. Only last week Ian Blackford was saying the pound could be kept for years in the event of Independence. Keep the pound, keep the Queen, keep the nukes, keep NATO membership...etc

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20157543.independent-scotland-keep-british-pound-years-ian-blackford-says/

Would cause the same disruption as going to imperial measurements

James310
30-05-2022, 08:45 PM
Would cause the same disruption as going to imperial measurements

Yep, both crazy ideas!

Bostonhibby
31-05-2022, 07:52 AM
The Nasty party have issued some guidelines for those unfamiliar within the new cutting edge, world beating science that is the Imperial system which is about to be thrust upon a grateful nation.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220531/c067c11d72ec249d2348a8ecbea8518f.jpg

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grunt
31-05-2022, 08:35 AM
You will all remember Rees-Mogg asking the public for their suggestions of Brexit Benefits.
You'll be pleased to know the Express (I know, sorry) has announced the top 9!

Read them and weep.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUElxeyWQAAELBu?format=jpg&name=medium

lapsedhibee
31-05-2022, 08:48 AM
You will all remember Rees-Mogg asking the public for their suggestions of Brexit Benefits.
You'll be pleased to know the Express (I know, sorry) has announced the top 9!

Read them and weep.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUElxeyWQAAELBu?format=jpg&name=medium

"Portable application." Halfwits.

Not sure I'd weep too hard at No 2 though.

Bostonhibby
31-05-2022, 08:56 AM
You will all remember Rees-Mogg asking the public for their suggestions of Brexit Benefits.
You'll be pleased to know the Express (I know, sorry) has announced the top 9!

Read them and weep.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUElxeyWQAAELBu?format=jpg&name=mediumFair makes that enormous balance of trade deficit all worthwhile, can't wait to test my portable applications out without all those horrible restrictions.

Assuming I can get my hands on some and can afford them.

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Hiber-nation
31-05-2022, 08:58 AM
The Nasty party have issued some guidelines for those unfamiliar within the new cutting edge, world beating science that is the Imperial system which is about to be thrust upon a grateful nation.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220531/c067c11d72ec249d2348a8ecbea8518f.jpg

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I'd love to hear Rowan Atkinson recite this.

grunt
31-05-2022, 10:07 AM
Not sure I'd weep too hard at No 2 though.I have no view on this, but I do wonder if more powerful vacuum cleaners is worth the price of completely trashing our economy, our global reputation and ruining the future of our children and grandchildren.

Stairway 2 7
31-05-2022, 10:16 AM
I don't get the vacuum cleaner one, why would there be a rule in the first place

Mon Dieu4
31-05-2022, 10:19 AM
I don't get the vacuum cleaner one, why would there be a rule in the first place

Was to help reduce energy consumption if I remember correctly

JeMeSouviens
31-05-2022, 10:20 AM
I don't get the vacuum cleaner one, why would there be a rule in the first place


some manufacturers deliberately increased the amount of electricity their appliances use because shoppers equate high-wattage with high performance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41119355

Stairway 2 7
31-05-2022, 10:25 AM
Thanks

lapsedhibee
31-05-2022, 10:44 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41119355

You won't convince me with your "facts" that a vacuum cleaner which sucks in Pascals will do as good a job as one which sucks in Pounds Per Square Inch.

Ozyhibby
31-05-2022, 12:24 PM
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-david-mcwilliams-podcast/id1462649946?i=1000564500330

Today David McWilliams podcast on Brexit is an interesting listen.


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Bostonhibby
31-05-2022, 01:34 PM
You won't convince me with your "facts" that a vacuum cleaner which sucks in Pascals will do as good a job as one which sucks in Pounds Per Square Inch.I think you'll find that if you wear a proper velvet top hat and morning suit whilst using said appliance the performance experience will be enhanced.
The imperial hoover is the future

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Jack
31-05-2022, 02:17 PM
Will the new ration books be available as an app?

The last few apps commissioned by Westminster went down well.

Bostonhibby
31-05-2022, 02:21 PM
Will the new ration books be available as an app?

The last few apps commissioned by Westminster went down well.Unfortunately Dido Harding will be supervising this again.

We will be getting a series of tickets dispensed by your local cheery equivalent of that great British favourite, Jack from On the Buses and his legendary ticket machine.

Happy days are here again.

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cabbageandribs1875
31-05-2022, 03:02 PM
"Portable application." Halfwits.

Not sure I'd weep too hard at No 2 though.


Dyson will be happy seeing Brother of Big Dog lobbying on his behalf in the HoL's


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUFWZWqXsAAx4j9?format=png&name=4096x4096

lapsedhibee
31-05-2022, 03:45 PM
Dyson will be happy seeing Brother of Big Dog lobbying on his behalf in the HoL's

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUFWZWqXsAAx4j9?format=png&name=4096x4096

Totally normal country.

JeMeSouviens
31-05-2022, 03:50 PM
Surely you all remember the bus?

https://i.imgflip.com/6i4084.jpg

DaveF
31-05-2022, 04:02 PM
Dyson will be happy seeing Brother of Big Dog lobbying on his behalf in the HoL's


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUFWZWqXsAAx4j9?format=png&name=4096x4096

Dates says the appointment was over 2 years ago.

Kato
31-05-2022, 07:59 PM
Johnson now treating his mps and the electorate as bargaining chips for his own survival.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-31/tories-fear-johnson-may-call-snap-election-if-he-faces-rebellion?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=220531&utm_campaign=author_15116245
No one is actually running the country as far as I can see. While he twists and wrestles with saving himself his cabinet are twattering on about ounces and hoovers or sending people to Rwanda.

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Stairway 2 7
31-05-2022, 08:15 PM
Johnson now treating his mps and the electorate as bargaining chips for his own survival.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-31/tories-fear-johnson-may-call-snap-election-if-he-faces-rebellion?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=220531&utm_campaign=author_15116245
No one is actually running the country as far as I can see. While he twists and wrestles with saving himself his cabinet are twattering on about ounces and hoovers or sending people to Rwanda.

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Surely labour must welcome this, the public too?

Smartie
31-05-2022, 08:25 PM
Surely labour must welcome this, the public too?

It would be one of the best things ever if he went ahead with it and for a change his bluff was actually, finally, called by the public.

Stairway 2 7
31-05-2022, 08:45 PM
They are very slight favourites to win the next election depressingly, Republicans too across yonder equally grimm

Smartie
31-05-2022, 09:00 PM
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-david-mcwilliams-podcast/id1462649946?i=1000564500330

Today David McWilliams podcast on Brexit is an interesting listen.


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Listened to this earlier.

It's very good.

Ozyhibby
02-06-2022, 03:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220602/2c30067ad524eb10a2d9e0cffc626edf.jpg


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Ozyhibby
03-06-2022, 10:59 AM
https://twitter.com/marieannuk/status/1532636681182003205?s=21&t=p4rfhKPd5Bt3VSWdbV4ysQ

Brexit to blame for travel chaos.


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Jack
03-06-2022, 02:39 PM
https://twitter.com/marieannuk/status/1532636681182003205?s=21&t=p4rfhKPd5Bt3VSWdbV4ysQ

Brexit to blame for travel chaos.


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I had been wondering if other countries were having the same travel chaos as we were.

Any of our foreign correspondents able to give us a report?

Hibrandenburg
03-06-2022, 02:53 PM
I had been wondering if other countries were having the same travel chaos as we were.

Any of our foreign correspondents able to give us a report?Many EU countries are experiencing travel problems due to staff who had been laid off during corona not returning. However this has mainly resulted in long delays but not so many cancellations like in the UK.

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/pfingsten-fluege-flugbranche-flughaefen-fraport-london-101.html

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Killiehibbie
04-06-2022, 05:00 AM
I had been wondering if other countries were having the same travel chaos as we were.

Any of our foreign correspondents able to give us a report?
The airport I used last week only had delays
on UK flights.

danhibees1875
04-06-2022, 06:00 AM
I had been wondering if other countries were having the same travel chaos as we were.

Any of our foreign correspondents able to give us a report?

This seems to detail a few examples/reasons:

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/06/01/dublin-schiphol-manchester-who-s-to-blame-for-europe-s-airport-chaos-and-what-are-your-rig

Ozyhibby
05-06-2022, 08:40 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220605/f0842ad26a52290f0ac8c2eae3df96bb.jpg

It’s the only solution and they know it.


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Ozyhibby
05-06-2022, 08:49 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sterling-is-in-crisis-and-theres-no-sugar-coating-the-reason-why-wb97dzllw

Brexit is killing the economy.


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Stairway 2 7
05-06-2022, 09:03 AM
Quite a lot of tory voices saying we need to return to single market. I guess its now even obvious to them what a disaster it is. Surprising not a peep from the labour leadership.

Ozyhibby
05-06-2022, 11:26 AM
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1620830/Brexit-plot-EU-laws-UK-goods-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Eleonor-Duhs-ont

The Express is worried that UK goods could be unsellable in Europe.[emoji102][emoji23]


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Bostonhibby
05-06-2022, 11:54 AM
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1620830/Brexit-plot-EU-laws-UK-goods-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Eleonor-Duhs-ont

The Express is worried that UK goods could be unsellable in Europe.[emoji102][emoji23]


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Surely there must be uniquely British goods that can be economically exported free of red tape that the giant EU market can't produce for itself?

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GlesgaeHibby
05-06-2022, 11:58 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220605/f0842ad26a52290f0ac8c2eae3df96bb.jpg

It’s the only solution and they know it.


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This Daniel Hannan?

https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1083287637115453442?lang=en-GB

I got to 'enjoy' one of the many benefits of Brexit recently by standing in massive queues at passport control (both ways) in Napoli, whilst EU nationals sailed through. Still, at least I'm able to come home to enjoy things like more powerful hoovers....

Ozyhibby
05-06-2022, 12:08 PM
This Daniel Hannan?

https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1083287637115453442?lang=en-GB

I got to 'enjoy' one of the many benefits of Brexit recently by standing in massive queues at passport control (both ways) in Napoli, whilst EU nationals sailed through. Still, at least I'm able to come home to enjoy things like more powerful hoovers....

At least the ‘idea’ of more powerful hoovers as the manufacturers are likely to continue to just make them to EU standards.


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Bostonhibby
05-06-2022, 12:56 PM
At least the ‘idea’ of more powerful hoovers as the manufacturers are likely to continue to just make them to EU standards.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCleanest carpets in Europe.

Never seen that on the side of a bus when all the slogans were being churned out.

Bozo loves a good s hag pile carpet as well so opportunity missed here.

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Andy Bee
05-06-2022, 01:09 PM
At least the ‘idea’ of more powerful hoovers as the manufacturers are likely to continue to just make them to EU standards.


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There was an interesting point made on James Obrien last week from someone who worked in the design department of Dyson. He mentioned because the limit was 1400w they all strived to make the hoovers more efficient than competitors, now those same competitors will just chuck a cheap bigger motor in to compete and efficiency will take a back seat. The outcome will end up with turbo diesel vacs. :greengrin

Moulin Yarns
05-06-2022, 03:09 PM
At least the ‘idea’ of more powerful hoovers as the manufacturers are likely to continue to just make them to EU standards.


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Unless you are Brexit supporting Dyson!!!

grunt
07-06-2022, 01:46 PM
This EU seems to come up with - and deliver - some very good ideas

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1534129747676082176?s=20&t=3va1CMVNUC0cWHzqXLWIjQ

We have a deal on the common charger

This means more savings for EU consumers and less waste for the planet:
-mobile phones, tablets, cameras… will all use USB type C
-harmonised fast-charging technology
-unbundling of sale of chargers

Ozyhibby
07-06-2022, 02:04 PM
This EU seems to come up with - and deliver - some very good ideas

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1534129747676082176?s=20&t=3va1CMVNUC0cWHzqXLWIjQ

We have a deal on the common charger

This means more savings for EU consumers and less waste for the planet:
-mobile phones, tablets, cameras… will all use USB type C
-harmonised fast-charging technology
-unbundling of sale of chargers

We’ll be going back to an old imperial Jack plug.[emoji106]


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lapsedhibee
07-06-2022, 02:36 PM
We’ll be going back to an old imperial Jack plug.[emoji106]


At least that would make it a bit more difficult for foreigners to come over here and help themselves to our British electricity.