Brexit - What Now.

[Jones28]

NO PUNS
















For Gods Hake no puns!

[Bangkok Hibby]

It’s a mess but it’s certainly not Thatcherite. It’s naked English Nationalism.

Hammer, nail, head.

[Killiehibbie]

Not at all. It's nature's way of controlling population growth.

Something needs done as Asia has had a 50% population increase overnight.

[lapsedhibee]

Something needs done as Asia has had a 50% population increase overnight.

What are you suggesting? That some Brexiter has been making stuff up? :shocked:

[hibsbollah]

What are you saying? That some Brexiter has been making stuff up? :shocked:

This is the ' Jeremy Corbyns Plan To Import Anti Semitic Vietnamese Piranhas to Coast of Blightly' headline again.

Theres no smoke without fire.

[Killiehibbie]

What are you suggesting? That some Brexiter has been making stuff up? :shocked:

Arithmetic has never been their best subject. Think of a number and change it to suit their agenda or just make it up.
They wouldn't do that would they?

[Bostonhibby]

This is the ' Jeremy Corbyns Plan To Import Anti Semitic Vietnamese Piranhas to Coast of Blightly' headline again.

Theres no smoke without fire.https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/sending-gunboats-after-the-french-exactly-what-i-voted-for-says-brexiter-20201214203497?utm_source=The+Daily+Mash+Headlines&utm_campaign=5cbd878ced-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_12_14_11_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6c9c2fcf0b-5cbd878ced-244202053

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[Hibrandenburg]

This is the ' Jeremy Corbyns Plan To Import Anti Semitic Vietnamese Piranhas to Coast of Blightly' headline again.

Theres no smoke without fire.

Another fishy story.

[stokesmessiah]

Just heard one on TV saying they need to take it all back and sell the catch to the 7 billion fish eating people in Asia

I thought it was awfy quiet round my bit.

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm in the process of a career change. I thought for my last 10 years before my pension I'd like to do something that didn't involve much brain work or physical exertion, so I've enrolled in a 5 month course that will qualify me as a professional driver that will qualify me to drive almost anything anywhere. To get a feel for the job and maybe some tips from long in the tooth long distance drivers I joined a Facebook group for German HGV drivers, absolutely brilliant and a great source of information for the challenges ahead. After this initial positive experience I thought I could widen my horizons by joining a similar UK group. What a ****ing mistake that was. The place is a cesspool of racist dimwits and endless threads full of hate and crazy conspiracy theories dehumanizing anyone non British. The comparison between both groups was like night and day. Wtf is wrong with this country?

[hibsbollah]

I'm in the process of a career change. I thought for my last 10 years before my pension I'd like to do something that didn't involve much brain work or physical exertion, so I've enrolled in a 5 month course that will qualify me as a professional driver that will qualify me to drive almost anything anywhere. To get a feel for the job and maybe some tips from long in the tooth long distance drivers I joined a Facebook group for German HGV drivers, absolutely brilliant and a great source of information for the challenges ahead. After this initial positive experience I thought I could widen my horizons by joining a similar UK group. What a ****ing mistake that was. The place is a cesspool of racist dimwits and endless threads full of hate and crazy conspiracy theories dehumanizing anyone non British. The comparison between both groups was like night and day. Wtf is wrong with this country?

Exclusively? Or were there no likeminded posters on there at all?

[Andy Bee]

Exclusively? Or were there no likeminded posters on there at all?

Hell no lol, apparently all UK heavy haulage drivers are thick, unfit racists, what a stupid post.

[hibsbollah]

Hell no lol, apparently all UK heavy haulage drivers are thick, unfit racists, what a stupid post.

Well he didn’t say all haulage drivers were like that, he was talking about two message boards and how those represent both countries. There’s no doubt in my mind that if you have right wing anti immigrant views it’s more acceptable to be public about those views in the UK than it is in Germany.

The reason I asked the question is if every post on there was the same it’s probably something to do with the editorial policy of the moderators encouraging those views, rather than all haulage drivers.

[Hibrandenburg]

Exclusively? Or were there no likeminded posters on there at all?

Not exclusively but by far the majority and anyone with an incongruous opinion is quickly rounded on.

Here are some replies to a post about some refugees/migrants being found in the back of a truck returning from the eu, I do realise that drivers in the haulage industry are affected directly by illegal immigration but the complete lack of any voice of reason is imo alarming:

"When the ****** gets to eunazi land he can stay there if he doesn't like democracy"

"Displaced out into Essex and Sussex
Then robbed blind by the flip flops or pikeys"

"Sealed trailer should be filled with gas at the docks simples"

"More rats in the country again"

"All fighting aged males. If it’s that bad back in their own country why would you leave your mum, sister, wife, daughter behind to face the music when they find out you’ve left"

"Line em against a wall"

"Load of em fetched out of a wagon other week on the m1 wish the police could just throw them into the carriageway"

"More of the *******s to rape our system, boils my piss"

"How Corona virus spreading 🤔🤔🤔 send the *******s back to France in a D day reinactmen they will think twice next time"

"Send the ****ers bk why are we so soft!! No room for anymore foreigners. 🤬🤬"

"Oh look, more doctors help our nhs 🙄"

"Just shoot them they are bring more diseases back into the uk we don’t need and we cannot afford it so to all you ****ing do gooders if it’s is that important for you to look after theses people you take 2 of the ****ers into your home to live in with you instead of you sitting on your ***** in your big houses watching all these tickets coming in and say look after the immigrates refugees and migrants in stead of them getting better treatment than the English and if you think it’s the right thing to do then let the immigrants and so to live with you in your home or village and see what happens to the village where you live then say it’s right for them to come here and take the money off the working people and we are paying for them to live here in the uk better than is people and it’s coming from our paid in taxes and national insurance and we are struggling to get a living for the older people and the armed forces who some have on where to live yet they will put the *******s that keep coming here living in 4 star hotels for free you do all this for them to come why do you think they come because government advertise o these people come to the uk and get free money housing and nhs instead of looking out for the English people and do the same for the armed forces people come out of there jobs after serving the country and you won’t ever help them but you will continue to let these *******s in to the uk why they have nothing to offer only draw on the counties money which you say you don’t have anymore money for the elderly the sick that is here you don’t look after your own people but you will let all these immigrants migrates refugees to come here and you make it your first priority to help then at the counties expense you should be out there stopping them get across the channel and do like the french have and that is put the coast guards boat out there stopping them from getting across and turn them back I’ve had to work hard for what I have got now you the government as not given me a thing to help me buy and home or put food on my plate and for my family I have with working hard and up to 90 hours per week and I had to do that to get where I am now and what have got out of working all these hours and years I got lung cancer in 2015 and guess what I got for all my hard work and paying silly amounts of tax into the uk now be got a bloody brain tumour can’t just have lung cancer I’ve got a **** life in front of me now and all that the government wants to do is keep letting more and more of these people into the uk it does happen in any other countries but the uk they are supposed to stop travelling when they reach the first country they get to and ask to stay there no they travel over all the other countries because they know that they will get a house free spending more free health care try and get it anywhere else but the uk other countries have camps for them to live in and give them nothing at all and we need camps in the uk to stop them coming and stop giving money and houses B&B and give them **** all but only to live in these camps then let it be and stop looking after the immigrants better than the true English people I would sink the boats that coming over here and let the french coast guard get them back and if they won’t take the back then leave them the take the risk it’s up to them if hey wanted to take the risk of sinking out in holding camps and stop giving out money to them do this and they won’t want to come here keep them away from the uk I don’t like the idea of the indigenous people getting pushed out of our own country and it’s happening now just look in the parliament and see the none English people in there there are loads come back Enoch Powell you was right all a long but no one would listen sorry for going on but this is my pet hate".

[Hibrandenburg]

Hell no lol, apparently all UK heavy haulage drivers are thick, unfit racists, what a stupid post.

I didn't say that though, did I?

[Hibrandenburg]

Well he didn’t say all haulage drivers were like that, he was talking about two message boards and how those represent both countries. There’s no doubt in my mind that if you have right wing anti immigrant views it’s more acceptable to be public about those views in the UK than it is in Germany.

The reason I asked the question is if every post on there was the same it’s probably something to do with the editorial policy of the moderators encouraging those views, rather than all haulage drivers.

Exactly, my post was more about what is deemed to be acceptable language and from what I've seen, xenophobia is more acceptable in UK forums than it is in Germany. There's obviously good historical reasons as to why racism and racist language receives less acceptance in Germany, but the problem is not just a historical one, but also educational and political.

[hibsbollah]

Not exclusively but by far the majority and anyone with an incongruous is quickly rounded on.

Here are some replies to a post about some refugees/migrants being found in the back of a truck returning from the eu, I do realise that drivers in the haulage industry are affected directly by illegal immigration but the complete lack of any voice of reason is imo alarming:

"When the ****** gets to eunazi land he can stay there if he doesn't like democracy"

"Displaced out into Essex and Sussex
Then robbed blind by the flip flops or pikeys"

"Sealed trailer should be filled with gas at the docks simples"

"More rats in the country again"

"All fighting aged males. If it’s that bad back in their own country why would you leave your mum, sister, wife, daughter behind to face the music when they find out you’ve left"

"Line em against a wall"

"Load of em fetched out of a wagon other week on the m1 wish the police could just throw them into the carriageway"

"More of the *******s to rape our system, boils my piss"

"How Corona virus spreading 🤔🤔🤔 send the *******s back to France in a D day reinactmen they will think twice next time"

"Send the ****ers bk why are we so soft!! No room for anymore foreigners. 🤬🤬"

"Oh look, more doctors help our nhs 🙄"

"Just shoot them they are bring more diseases back into the uk we don’t need and we cannot afford it so to all you ****ing do gooders if it’s is that important for you to look after theses people you take 2 of the ****ers into your home to live in with you instead of you sitting on your ***** in your big houses watching all these tickets coming in and say look after the immigrates refugees and migrants in stead of them getting better treatment than the English and if you think it’s the right thing to do then let the immigrants and so to live with you in your home or village and see what happens to the village where you live then say it’s right for them to come here and take the money off the working people and we are paying for them to live here in the uk better than is people and it’s coming from our paid in taxes and national insurance and we are struggling to get a living for the older people and the armed forces who some have on where to live yet they will put the *******s that keep coming here living in 4 star hotels for free you do all this for them to come why do you think they come because government advertise o these people come to the uk and get free money housing and nhs instead of looking out for the English people and do the same for the armed forces people come out of there jobs after serving the country and you won’t ever help them but you will continue to let these *******s in to the uk why they have nothing to offer only draw on the counties money which you say you don’t have anymore money for the elderly the sick that is here you don’t look after your own people but you will let all these immigrants migrates refugees to come here and you make it your first priority to help then at the counties expense you should be out there stopping them get across the channel and do like the french have and that is put the coast guards boat out there stopping them from getting across and turn them back I’ve had to work hard for what I have got now you the government as not given me a thing to help me buy and home or put food on my plate and for my family I have with working hard and up to 90 hours per week and I had to do that to get where I am now and what have got out of working all these hours and years I got lung cancer in 2015 and guess what I got for all my hard work and paying silly amounts of tax into the uk now be got a bloody brain tumour can’t just have lung cancer I’ve got a **** life in front of me now and all that the government wants to do is keep letting more and more of these people into the uk it does happen in any other countries but the uk they are supposed to stop travelling when they reach the first country they get to and ask to stay there no they travel over all the other countries because they know that they will get a house free spending more free health care try and get it anywhere else but the uk other countries have camps for them to live in and give them nothing at all and we need camps in the uk to stop them coming and stop giving money and houses B&B and give them **** all but only to live in these camps then let it be and stop looking after the immigrants better than the true English people I would sink the boats that coming over here and let the french coast guard get them back and if they won’t take the back then leave them the take the risk it’s up to them if hey wanted to take the risk of sinking out in holding camps and stop giving out money to them do this and they won’t want to come here keep them away from the uk I don’t like the idea of the indigenous people getting pushed out of our own country and it’s happening now just look in the parliament and see the none English people in there there are loads come back Enoch Powell you was right all a long but no one would listen sorry for going on but this is my pet hate".

**** me.

[lapsedhibee]

Not exclusively but by far the majority and anyone with an incongruous is quickly rounded on.

Here are some replies to a post about some refugees/migrants being found in the back of a truck returning from the eu, I do realise that drivers in the haulage industry are affected directly by illegal immigration but the complete lack of any voice of reason is imo alarming:

"When the ****** gets to eunazi land he can stay there if he doesn't like democracy"

"Displaced out into Essex and Sussex
Then robbed blind by the flip flops or pikeys"

"Sealed trailer should be filled with gas at the docks simples"

"More rats in the country again"

"All fighting aged males. If it’s that bad back in their own country why would you leave your mum, sister, wife, daughter behind to face the music when they find out you’ve left"

"Line em against a wall"

"Load of em fetched out of a wagon other week on the m1 wish the police could just throw them into the carriageway"

"More of the *******s to rape our system, boils my piss"

"How Corona virus spreading 🤔🤔🤔 send the *******s back to France in a D day reinactmen they will think twice next time"

"Send the ****ers bk why are we so soft!! No room for anymore foreigners. 🤬🤬"

"Oh look, more doctors help our nhs 🙄"

"Just shoot them they are bring more diseases back into the uk we don’t need and we cannot afford it so to all you ****ing do gooders if it’s is that important for you to look after theses people you take 2 of the ****ers into your home to live in with you instead of you sitting on your ***** in your big houses watching all these tickets coming in and say look after the immigrates refugees and migrants in stead of them getting better treatment than the English and if you think it’s the right thing to do then let the immigrants and so to live with you in your home or village and see what happens to the village where you live then say it’s right for them to come here and take the money off the working people and we are paying for them to live here in the uk better than is people and it’s coming from our paid in taxes and national insurance and we are struggling to get a living for the older people and the armed forces who some have on where to live yet they will put the *******s that keep coming here living in 4 star hotels for free you do all this for them to come why do you think they come because government advertise o these people come to the uk and get free money housing and nhs instead of looking out for the English people and do the same for the armed forces people come out of there jobs after serving the country and you won’t ever help them but you will continue to let these *******s in to the uk why they have nothing to offer only draw on the counties money which you say you don’t have anymore money for the elderly the sick that is here you don’t look after your own people but you will let all these immigrants migrates refugees to come here and you make it your first priority to help then at the counties expense you should be out there stopping them get across the channel and do like the french have and that is put the coast guards boat out there stopping them from getting across and turn them back I’ve had to work hard for what I have got now you the government as not given me a thing to help me buy and home or put food on my plate and for my family I have with working hard and up to 90 hours per week and I had to do that to get where I am now and what have got out of working all these hours and years I got lung cancer in 2015 and guess what I got for all my hard work and paying silly amounts of tax into the uk now be got a bloody brain tumour can’t just have lung cancer I’ve got a **** life in front of me now and all that the government wants to do is keep letting more and more of these people into the uk it does happen in any other countries but the uk they are supposed to stop travelling when they reach the first country they get to and ask to stay there no they travel over all the other countries because they know that they will get a house free spending more free health care try and get it anywhere else but the uk other countries have camps for them to live in and give them nothing at all and we need camps in the uk to stop them coming and stop giving money and houses B&B and give them **** all but only to live in these camps then let it be and stop looking after the immigrants better than the true English people I would sink the boats that coming over here and let the french coast guard get them back and if they won’t take the back then leave them the take the risk it’s up to them if hey wanted to take the risk of sinking out in holding camps and stop giving out money to them do this and they won’t want to come here keep them away from the uk I don’t like the idea of the indigenous people getting pushed out of our own country and it’s happening now just look in the parliament and see the none English people in there there are loads come back Enoch Powell you was right all a long but no one would listen sorry for going on but this is my pet hate".

One word: Daily Express.

[Moulin Yarns]

One word: Daily Express.

That's two words though. 😉

[Keith_M]

That's two words though. 😉

Two words: Ped Ant

[Bostonhibby]

Not exclusively but by far the majority and anyone with an incongruous opinion is quickly rounded on.

Here are some replies to a post about some refugees/migrants being found in the back of a truck returning from the eu, I do realise that drivers in the haulage industry are affected directly by illegal immigration but the complete lack of any voice of reason is imo alarming:

"When the ****** gets to eunazi land he can stay there if he doesn't like democracy"

"Displaced out into Essex and Sussex
Then robbed blind by the flip flops or pikeys"

"Sealed trailer should be filled with gas at the docks simples"

"More rats in the country again"

"All fighting aged males. If it’s that bad back in their own country why would you leave your mum, sister, wife, daughter behind to face the music when they find out you’ve left"

"Line em against a wall"

"Load of em fetched out of a wagon other week on the m1 wish the police could just throw them into the carriageway"

"More of the *******s to rape our system, boils my piss"

"How Corona virus spreading [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] send the *******s back to France in a D day reinactmen they will think twice next time"

"Send the ****ers bk why are we so soft!! No room for anymore foreigners. [emoji2959][emoji2959]"

"Oh look, more doctors help our nhs [emoji849]"

"Just shoot them they are bring more diseases back into the uk we don’t need and we cannot afford it so to all you ****ing do gooders if it’s is that important for you to look after theses people you take 2 of the ****ers into your home to live in with you instead of you sitting on your ***** in your big houses watching all these tickets coming in and say look after the immigrates refugees and migrants in stead of them getting better treatment than the English and if you think it’s the right thing to do then let the immigrants and so to live with you in your home or village and see what happens to the village where you live then say it’s right for them to come here and take the money off the working people and we are paying for them to live here in the uk better than is people and it’s coming from our paid in taxes and national insurance and we are struggling to get a living for the older people and the armed forces who some have on where to live yet they will put the *******s that keep coming here living in 4 star hotels for free you do all this for them to come why do you think they come because government advertise o these people come to the uk and get free money housing and nhs instead of looking out for the English people and do the same for the armed forces people come out of there jobs after serving the country and you won’t ever help them but you will continue to let these *******s in to the uk why they have nothing to offer only draw on the counties money which you say you don’t have anymore money for the elderly the sick that is here you don’t look after your own people but you will let all these immigrants migrates refugees to come here and you make it your first priority to help then at the counties expense you should be out there stopping them get across the channel and do like the french have and that is put the coast guards boat out there stopping them from getting across and turn them back I’ve had to work hard for what I have got now you the government as not given me a thing to help me buy and home or put food on my plate and for my family I have with working hard and up to 90 hours per week and I had to do that to get where I am now and what have got out of working all these hours and years I got lung cancer in 2015 and guess what I got for all my hard work and paying silly amounts of tax into the uk now be got a bloody brain tumour can’t just have lung cancer I’ve got a **** life in front of me now and all that the government wants to do is keep letting more and more of these people into the uk it does happen in any other countries but the uk they are supposed to stop travelling when they reach the first country they get to and ask to stay there no they travel over all the other countries because they know that they will get a house free spending more free health care try and get it anywhere else but the uk other countries have camps for them to live in and give them nothing at all and we need camps in the uk to stop them coming and stop giving money and houses B&B and give them **** all but only to live in these camps then let it be and stop looking after the immigrants better than the true English people I would sink the boats that coming over here and let the french coast guard get them back and if they won’t take the back then leave them the take the risk it’s up to them if hey wanted to take the risk of sinking out in holding camps and stop giving out money to them do this and they won’t want to come here keep them away from the uk I don’t like the idea of the indigenous people getting pushed out of our own country and it’s happening now just look in the parliament and see the none English people in there there are loads come back Enoch Powell you was right all a long but no one would listen sorry for going on but this is my pet hate".Jeez, I always thought the world would be a better, safer place if we got more freight on the railways, now I just want it on the railways regardless.



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[Hibrandenburg]

Jeez, I always thought the world would be a better, safer place if we got more freight on the railways, now I just want it on the railways regardless.



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I don't think this is confined to HGV drivers. I think it's prevalent in many different closed groups where racism and xenophobia is allowed to fester without being opposed. I just think that this particular nest of rancidity I've accidentally stumbled upon is particularly odious, however I'm sure there's worse out there.

[cabbageandribs1875]

looks like the one in the middle is a wee bitty ashamed to show his coupon


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no idea which one but apparently some cretin is an ex britain first tw@t



p.s. sorry if wrong thread

[Bostonhibby]

I don't think this is confined to HGV drivers. I think it's prevalent in many different closed groups where racism and xenophobia is allowed to fester without being opposed. I just think that this particular nest of rancidity I've accidentally stumbled upon is particularly odious, however I'm sure there's worse out there.[emoji106]

Me being a reactionary, not difficult to find it in other trades and professions around here sadly.

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[Bangkok Hibby]

I don't think this is confined to HGV drivers. I think it's prevalent in many different closed groups where racism and xenophobia is allowed to fester without being opposed. I just think that this particular nest of rancidity I've accidentally stumbled upon is particularly odious, however I'm sure there's worse out there.

I worked for years with predominately white, working class, blue collar workers from all corners of the UK. It never failed to disappoint me when the underlying racism and xenophobia of a sizeable percentage surfaced. Listening to locker room conversations amongst outwardly everyday common or garden Brits sickened me. I'm glad I'm out of it.

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[Callum_62]

If the 'brexiteers' are happy then it's a **** show

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[Ozyhibby]

If the 'brexiteers' are happy then it's a **** show

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So long as he can say it’s a deal, even if it’s a **** one, Johnson will be happy.


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[lapsedhibee]

So long as he can say it’s a deal, even if it’s a **** one, Johnson will be happy.


Thank goodness for Johnson. Barnier and Frosty were getting nowhere until Johnson decided to take personal charge of negotiations and save the day.

[Bostonhibby]

So long as he can say it’s a deal, even if it’s a **** one, Johnson will be happy.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFantastic world beating, UK first to do such a deal.

It's his Chamberlain moment and he won't be around for the consequences.

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[Glory Lurker]

Pity the EU if they think we'll stick to it.

[1875godsgift]

Not exclusively but by far the majority and anyone with an incongruous opinion is quickly rounded on.

Here are some replies to a post about some refugees/migrants being found in the back of a truck returning from the eu, I do realise that drivers in the haulage industry are affected directly by illegal immigration but the complete lack of any voice of reason is imo alarming:

"When the ****** gets to eunazi land he can stay there if he doesn't like democracy"

"Displaced out into Essex and Sussex
Then robbed blind by the flip flops or pikeys"

"Sealed trailer should be filled with gas at the docks simples"

"More rats in the country again"

"All fighting aged males. If it’s that bad back in their own country why would you leave your mum, sister, wife, daughter behind to face the music when they find out you’ve left"

"Line em against a wall"

"Load of em fetched out of a wagon other week on the m1 wish the police could just throw them into the carriageway"

"More of the *******s to rape our system, boils my piss"

"How Corona virus spreading 🤔🤔🤔 send the *******s back to France in a D day reinactmen they will think twice next time"

"Send the ****ers bk why are we so soft!! No room for anymore foreigners. 🤬🤬"

"Oh look, more doctors help our nhs 🙄"

"Just shoot them they are bring more diseases back into the uk we don’t need and we cannot afford it so to all you ****ing do gooders if it’s is that important for you to look after theses people you take 2 of the ****ers into your home to live in with you instead of you sitting on your ***** in your big houses watching all these tickets coming in and say look after the immigrates refugees and migrants in stead of them getting better treatment than the English and if you think it’s the right thing to do then let the immigrants and so to live with you in your home or village and see what happens to the village where you live then say it’s right for them to come here and take the money off the working people and we are paying for them to live here in the uk better than is people and it’s coming from our paid in taxes and national insurance and we are struggling to get a living for the older people and the armed forces who some have on where to live yet they will put the *******s that keep coming here living in 4 star hotels for free you do all this for them to come why do you think they come because government advertise o these people come to the uk and get free money housing and nhs instead of looking out for the English people and do the same for the armed forces people come out of there jobs after serving the country and you won’t ever help them but you will continue to let these *******s in to the uk why they have nothing to offer only draw on the counties money which you say you don’t have anymore money for the elderly the sick that is here you don’t look after your own people but you will let all these immigrants migrates refugees to come here and you make it your first priority to help then at the counties expense you should be out there stopping them get across the channel and do like the french have and that is put the coast guards boat out there stopping them from getting across and turn them back I’ve had to work hard for what I have got now you the government as not given me a thing to help me buy and home or put food on my plate and for my family I have with working hard and up to 90 hours per week and I had to do that to get where I am now and what have got out of working all these hours and years I got lung cancer in 2015 and guess what I got for all my hard work and paying silly amounts of tax into the uk now be got a bloody brain tumour can’t just have lung cancer I’ve got a **** life in front of me now and all that the government wants to do is keep letting more and more of these people into the uk it does happen in any other countries but the uk they are supposed to stop travelling when they reach the first country they get to and ask to stay there no they travel over all the other countries because they know that they will get a house free spending more free health care try and get it anywhere else but the uk other countries have camps for them to live in and give them nothing at all and we need camps in the uk to stop them coming and stop giving money and houses B&B and give them **** all but only to live in these camps then let it be and stop looking after the immigrants better than the true English people I would sink the boats that coming over here and let the french coast guard get them back and if they won’t take the back then leave them the take the risk it’s up to them if hey wanted to take the risk of sinking out in holding camps and stop giving out money to them do this and they won’t want to come here keep them away from the uk I don’t like the idea of the indigenous people getting pushed out of our own country and it’s happening now just look in the parliament and see the none English people in there there are loads come back Enoch Powell you was right all a long but no one would listen sorry for going on but this is my pet hate".

Thick **** probably typed all that on his phone as he was driving through Europe.

[Andy Bee]

Exactly, my post was more about what is deemed to be acceptable language and from what I've seen, xenophobia is more acceptable in UK forums than it is in Germany. There's obviously good historical reasons as to why racism and racist language receives less acceptance in Germany, but the problem is not just a historical one, but also educational and political.

Apologies, upon reflection and a good sleep after a long, long shift I see where you're coming from now, so again, I apologise.

I did have a chuckle though when you mentioned the lack of physical and mental exertion needed in the heavy haulage industry, if you're looking for an easy ride in your last 10 years of work then you may well be in for a rude awakening in your chosen path, hopefully not though. :greengrin

As for your quoted post, unfortunately I hear talk like that all too often, there's a real lack of moral in what used to be a really close knit community, some real comradeship has been lost over the years. Times gone by drivers would congregate in all the various usual towns and villages when their hours were up and they'd frequent the local clubs, pubs and B&B's before heading back out on the road. Now, with modern vehicles, they're forced to sleep in cab in some dank layby or a generic truckstop if you're lucky enough to have an employer who pays for it. Average pay has reduced over the years and unfortunately a lot of drivers blame foreign workers for that and the many failings the industry has at the moment. I'd hazard a guess that construction and hospitality are harbouring the same kind of hatred. I'm in no way trying to defend the halfwit that wrote the quoted post as it's obviously indefensible and more to the point it's factually incorrect.

[Hibernia&Alba]

One word: Daily Express.

Daily Mail and The Sun are even worse for xenophobia and racism. The UK tabloid press is a cesspool of idiocy which panders to the lowest common denominator.

[Hibrandenburg]

Apologies, upon reflection and a good sleep after a long, long shift I see where you're coming from now, so again, I apologise.

I did have a chuckle though when you mentioned the lack of physical and mental exertion needed in the heavy haulage industry, if you're looking for an easy ride in your last 10 years of work then you may well be in for a rude awakening in your chosen path, hopefully not though. :greengrin

As for your quoted post, unfortunately I hear talk like that all too often, there's a real lack of moral in what used to be a really close knit community, some real comradeship has been lost over the years. Times gone by drivers would congregate in all the various usual towns and villages when their hours were up and they'd frequent the local clubs, pubs and B&B's before heading back out on the road. Now, with modern vehicles, they're forced to sleep in cab in some dank layby or a generic truckstop if you're lucky enough to have an employer who pays for it. Average pay has reduced over the years and unfortunately a lot of drivers blame foreign workers for that and the many failings the industry has at the moment. I'd hazard a guess that construction and hospitality are harbouring the same kind of hatred. I'm in no way trying to defend the halfwit that wrote the quoted post as it's obviously indefensible and more to the point it's factually incorrect.

Fair enough Andy and thanks for the reply. I get the frustrations that some occupational groups have, but the blame doesn't lie at the door of foreigners taking advantage if legal opportunities that are open to them and especially not those who have fled home in the search of safety and a better life. Ironically this particular group are full of praise for the actual source of their misery and by that I mean consecutive UK governments that have allowed the race to the bottom.

I'm under no illusions as to the arduous nature of my chosen career change and have done a lot of research into the industry over here. Anything that passes through Germany and most of what arrives in Germany is firmly in the hands of Eastern European haulage organisation, however the vast majority of that what moves within the country is safely in German hands and controlled by German legislation and union tariff agreements. The UK could have done similar if the government was willing to do so or the unions were powerful enough to force them to but unfortunately they didn't. Germany loves its trades and apprenticeships and driving is no different. To be able to drive commercially here, you must hold a qualification gained through apprenticeship or by having relevant proven experience and an intensive lateral entry course and completion of state controlled examinations. Without completing the aforementioned and having received the relevant certification, drivers working commercially face fines of €5000 and employers €15000 everytime they get caught. I'm hoping to pick up a job delivering fuel to petrol stations where the money is good and the shifts ensure I'm guaranteed to get home every night, if successful it will be my first job ever where I will be home every night.

If that doesn't work out with the tankers then I'm lucky enough to live in an area that is pretty much one huge logistics centre. I'm just south of Berlin and the whole area is a huge hub for not only goods coming into the country but also a staging post for supplying Berlin with everything it needs. This will be my 4th occupation since leaving school and I've been lucky enough to have had jobs that many kids dream of doing, all these jobs have been difficult in their own respect but if I had to choose I'd say being a trucker is likely the easiest of them all.

Apologies for going off on a tangent but I am rather excited about the new challenge.

[Mr Grieves]

Welsh government threatening to take the UK government to court over the internal market bill.

https://gov.wales/written-statement-possible-legal-challenge-uk-internal-market-bill

The Welsh Government is determined to do everything we can to protect the Senedd in the face of the outrageous attack on its legislative competence made by the UK Government through the UK Internal Market Bill, to which the Senedd has rightly refused consent.

The Bill will today complete the process of Commons Consideration of Lords Amendments. If the Bill is enacted in its present form, this would leave the ambit of the devolution settlement in Wales uncertain and undermined.

Regulation-making powers in the Bill would open the Government of Wales Act 2006 (GoWA) to very wide substantive future amendment, and the powers of the Senedd and Welsh Government to serious diminution, at the hands of the UK Government.

The provisions in the Bill are also so wide and deep in operation that they risk constraining the legislative space for the Senedd in areas which are currently devolved.

We have therefore today formally notified the UK Government that should the UK Parliament enact the Bill in its present form, I intend to take immediate action to seek a declaration from the Administrative Court that the ambit of constitutional legislation cannot lawfully be cut down in this way and that the ensuing Act cannot be interpreted so as to have that effect.

We have asked for a response from the UK Government within 14 days.

I will keep Members fully informed of developments.

[heretoday]

I'm in the process of a career change. I thought for my last 10 years before my pension I'd like to do something that didn't involve much brain work or physical exertion, so I've enrolled in a 5 month course that will qualify me as a professional driver that will qualify me to drive almost anything anywhere. To get a feel for the job and maybe some tips from long in the tooth long distance drivers I joined a Facebook group for German HGV drivers, absolutely brilliant and a great source of information for the challenges ahead. After this initial positive experience I thought I could widen my horizons by joining a similar UK group. What a ****ing mistake that was. The place is a cesspool of racist dimwits and endless threads full of hate and crazy conspiracy theories dehumanizing anyone non British. The comparison between both groups was like night and day. Wtf is wrong with this country?

So be a taxi driver instead. I'm told they're a reasonable, fair-minded crowd..

[Killiehibbie]

So be a taxi driver instead. I'm told they're a reasonable, fair-minded crowd..

Not an option if a wage is required.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131580015_1574475986073381_7954833896448007891_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=FVTULmKegYMAX9czAQ2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=4e7c06d331a8836c50af51efb69f0204&oe=60000D31

[Moulin Yarns]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131580015_1574475986073381_7954833896448007891_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=FVTULmKegYMAX9czAQ2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=4e7c06d331a8836c50af51efb69f0204&oe=60000D31


All those immigrants.




:wink:

[cabbageandribs1875]

All those immigrants.




:wink:


i'm just concerned that my medicines don't get through :)

[Hibrandenburg]

So be a taxi driver instead. I'm told they're a reasonable, fair-minded crowd..

Nah, I hate people. :wink:

[Hibrandenburg]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131580015_1574475986073381_7954833896448007891_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=FVTULmKegYMAX9czAQ2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=4e7c06d331a8836c50af51efb69f0204&oe=60000D31

Apparently it's the same on the way down as necessary measures are being put in place prior to Brexit but on the French side they're artificially causing tailbacks just to be annoying. According to the geniuses on the previously mentioned trucker forum:rolleyes:

[marinello59]

Nah, I hate people. :wink:

You’d be perfect then. :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

You’d be perfect then. :greengrin

I tee them up, you bang them down the range. :greengrin

[w pilton hibby]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131580015_1574475986073381_7954833896448007891_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=FVTULmKegYMAX9czAQ2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=4e7c06d331a8836c50af51efb69f0204&oe=60000D31


Why are the lorries parked on the left hand side of the road? This pic wasn't taken in France.

Fake news!

[Mon Dieu4]

Why are the lorries parked on the left hand side of the road? This pic wasn't taken in France.

Fake news!

The French police put traffic managing measures in place to try and sort it out

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201216/northern-france-sees-8-hour-lorry-tailbacks-as-brits-stockpile-ahead-of-brexit

[CropleyWasGod]

Why are the lorries parked on the left hand side of the road? This pic wasn't taken in France.

Fake news!

The article is in a French newspaper.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201216/northern-france-sees-8-hour-lorry-tailbacks-as-brits-stockpile-ahead-of-brexit

That looks like a slip road on to a RH-drive motorway. In the background, there are overhead signs which look like they are on the RH side of the motorway.

[JeMeSouviens]

Why are the lorries parked on the left hand side of the road? This pic wasn't taken in France.

Fake news!

The dashed line at the rhs of that carriageway would be solid on a UK road I think?

[jonty]

Stock image from a French photographer
Also used in 2019:
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/brexit-parliament-suspension-gbr-intl/h_c73cab0758927dd72967c210cb5d9917
https://www.newspulseonline.com/uk-business-gives-cautious-welcome-to-brexit-extension/

[Smartie]

Why are the lorries parked on the left hand side of the road? This pic wasn't taken in France.

Fake news!

It would be a great bit of trolling if the Europeans now started to drive on the left, eat bendy bananas etc now we’re leaving.

[Keith_M]

It would be a great bit of trolling if the Europeans now started to drive on the left, eat bendy bananas etc now we’re leaving.


...and the Royal family move back to Germany.

[degenerated]

You’d be perfect then. :greengrinMakes me think of one of my favourite pieces of stand up comedy.

https://youtu.be/XkCBhKs4faI

[Bostonhibby]

...and the Royal family move back to Germany.If that happened would the Hanoverian Germans still Rule Britannia?

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[Keith_M]

If that happened would the Hanoverian Germans still Rule Britannia?

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When you Gotha go, you just Gotha go!

[Bostonhibby]

When you Gotha go, you just Gotha go!Goddam foreigners, coming over here and taking all our thrones, palaces and crown jewels.

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[Kato]

When you Gotha go, you just Gotha go!

Like a Battenberg Outta Hell!

[Hibrandenburg]

If that happened would the Hanoverian Germans still Rule Britannia?

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Not yet :wink:

[Bostonhibby]

Not yet :wink:Or the Greeks?[emoji6]

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[Hibernia&Alba]

No trade deal with the EU now looks certain, barring a last ditch breakthrough. I've said it before, but I'm convinced this has been the plan all along with some of the Tory hardliners.

[lapsedhibee]

No trade deal with the EU now looks certain, barring a last ditch breakthrough. I've said it before, but I'm convinced this has been the plan all along with some of the Tory hardliners.

Too early to say. Still think Johnson's going for a triumphant 'I have in my hand a piece of paper' moment in a week or two.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Too early to say. Still think Johnson's going for a triumphant 'I have in my hand a piece of paper' moment in a week or two.

Let's hope so, but I'm confident now. The government are in the crazy position of telling the EU to break some of their fundamental trade rules to benefit a country which has left the club. It's not happening, but, on the other hand, concessions from Johnson will send the Brexiteers crazy. He's in a difficult position. We need something to happen very soon.

[Smartie]

Never going to happen.

It was never going to happen.

Absolute lunacy.

[Ozyhibby]

The Q of trucks in Calais is now 50km long. January is going to be chaos.


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[Bostonhibby]

The Q of trucks in Calais is now 50km long. January is going to be chaos.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWith leaders like Gove and Shapp taking back control of this one everything will be fine.

They're been full time on who to blame for 3 and a half years and the two of them are now overseeing shovelling sand and sawdust onto the muddy Kent car park where the lorries will be dumped when they do arrive as they've taken a similar approach to their management of customs and border control.

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[weecounty hibby]

Too early to say. Still think Johnson's going for a triumphant 'I have in my hand a piece of paper' moment in a week or two.
The problem is though that the paper in his hand will be as useless as the one that Chamberlain had. At this stage any deal that he gets will still leave us worse off than we were before

[lapsedhibee]

The problem is though that the paper in his hand will be as useless as the one that Chamberlain had. At this stage any deal that he gets will still leave us worse off than we were before

Of course, but that's not how it'll be reported by Kuenssberg, redtops, Times, Telegraph. "Boris saves the day!"

[Bangkok Hibby]

The Q of trucks in Calais is now 50km long. January is going to be chaos.


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CNN interviewed one of the drivers (English) says he looking forward to Brexit!

[Bostonhibby]

The problem is though that the paper in his hand will be as useless as the one that Chamberlain had. At this stage any deal that he gets will still leave us worse off than we were beforeBozo won't be around when the smelly stuff hits the fan, never is.

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[Mr Grieves]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1339851685666144258?s=20

[Ringothedog]

Too early to say. Still think Johnson's going for a triumphant 'I have in my hand a piece of paper' moment in a week or two.

Hopefully his resignation

[hibsbollah]

No trade deal with the EU now looks certain, barring a last ditch breakthrough. I've said it before, but I'm convinced this has been the plan all along with some of the Tory hardliners.

I have a feeling Johnson wanted to brief all week that a deals not happening, only to pull one out of the bag at the last minute. Whether he has the negotiating skills to pull this off is another matter entirely.

[Keith_M]

"Barnier, a former French fisheries minister..."



Ah, now I understand where the source of the problem really lies.

:cb

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1339851685666144258?s=20

Some of the replies to that tweet are unbelievably stupid. Does instant coffee not produce a smell?

[Bristolhibby]

Bozo won't be around when the smelly stuff hits the fan, never is.

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But like Cameron.

J

[Hibernia&Alba]

But like Cameron.

J

Brexit is the only thing he will be remembered for. He played fast and loose with the future of the country for party politics, got his fingers burnt and vanished.

[heretoday]

Will the price of fish come down?
I love smoked haddock but it's so darn expensive.
Since the fishermen all voted for Brexit I don't suppose it will. Greedy sods.

[The Harp Awakes]

Will the price of fish come down?
I love smoked haddock but it's so darn expensive.
Since the fishermen all voted for Brexit I don't suppose it will. Greedy sods.

It probably will, particularly if there's no deal. The fishermen wanted Brexit to stop the French fishing in UK waters. If it's a no deal Brexit they may end up with more fish to themselves, but less people to sell it too = lower prices. Miles of queues at Dover won't help them.

Short sighted nonsense.

[One Day Soon]

I have a feeling Johnson wanted to brief all week that a deals not happening, only to pull one out of the bag at the last minute. Whether he has the negotiating skills to pull this off is another matter entirely.

He absolutely doesn't. His officials might.

[stu in nottingham]

Will the price of fish come down?


https://youtu.be/7NZfZXZ7DbE?t=24

[JeMeSouviens]

It probably will, particularly if there's no deal. The fishermen wanted Brexit to stop the French fishing in UK waters. If it's a no deal Brexit they may end up with more fish to themselves, but less people to sell it too = lower prices. Miles of queues at Dover won't help them.

Short sighted nonsense.

The wrong kind of fish will be cheaper. We catch herring, mackerel, pollock. We eat haddock, cod, salmon.

The UK imports twice as much fish as it exports.

[JeMeSouviens]

He absolutely doesn't. His officials might.

To be fair, considering his mandate and that he works for utter morons, David Frost has actually done pretty well.

I think there will be a crap deal but that’s a **** sight better than none.

[Scorrie]

To be fair, considering his mandate and that he works for utter morons, David Frost has actually done pretty well.

I think there will be a crap deal but that’s a **** sight better than none.

I seem to recall Theresa May saying no deal was better than a bad deal. Wonder if that is still government policy...?

[ballengeich]

I seem to recall Theresa May saying no deal was better than a bad deal. Wonder if that is still government policy...?
I wonder also if that is EU policy.

Re fish :- if non UK boats are barred from UK water that could be a major conservation positive as we don't have the boats to catch the numbers other countries take.

[Radium]

I wonder also if that is EU policy.

Re fish :- if non UK boats are barred from UK water that could be a major conservation positive as we don't have the boats to catch the numbers other countries take.

https://youtu.be/hfD3gevx48Y

... not really been that friendly before and there will be instances where European fishermen will have farmed waters we now claim for generations so expect them to keep fishing


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[heretoday]

The wrong kind of fish will be cheaper. We catch herring, mackerel, pollock. We eat haddock, cod, salmon.

The UK imports twice as much fish as it exports.
I don't like the sound of that. Mackerel is OK but kippers I've never been fond of.

[lapsedhibee]

https://youtu.be/hfD3gevx48Y

Moral of that excellent history is that to end conflict it's best to declare a 200-mile exclusion zone round your islands. UK should do that. :agree:

[heretoday]

My own feeling is there will be a deal on fishing if nothing else.

[Radium]

Moral of that excellent history is that to end conflict it's best to declare a 200-mile exclusion zone round your islands. UK should do that. :agree:

... or threaten to quit NATO


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[lapsedhibee]

... or threaten to quit NATO


We should do that as well. We won't be proper sovereign unless we do. :agree:

[Glory Lurker]

We should do that as well. We won't be proper sovereign unless we do. :agree:

What an interesting point. Being made to go to war whether you want to or not is a pretty big limitation on sovereignty.

[cabbageandribs1875]

there are no words to describe an individual that could come up with this...

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131986451_1319364911779461_1140862620717219269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=uhyVgsWKnykAX_qc7wb&_nc_oc=AQmPBE6m54TkdZLDFZztb1Hf4iZhUQVlM9bzJlzLh2W yJSyWrIUppN0314nSjlCDQbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=3004e4b1a9b97588b7a41e33830a2c9e&oe=600281DA

[GlesgaeHibby]

there are no words to describe an individual that could come up with this...

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131986451_1319364911779461_1140862620717219269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=uhyVgsWKnykAX_qc7wb&_nc_oc=AQmPBE6m54TkdZLDFZztb1Hf4iZhUQVlM9bzJlzLh2W yJSyWrIUppN0314nSjlCDQbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=3004e4b1a9b97588b7a41e33830a2c9e&oe=600281DA


Utterly disgusting.

Surely now Boris has to extend the transition period? Throwing in Brexit chaos on top of a fresh wave of severe COVID-19 restrictions is utterly mental.

[Bostonhibby]

Utterly disgusting.

Surely now Boris has to extend the transition period? Throwing in Brexit chaos on top of a fresh wave of severe COVID-19 restrictions is utterly mental.It's the way our country is heading sadly, anything to support the government's policy of deflection and blame.

You'd think the torygraph of all papers would know that the finance houses make the business decisions to follow the money to the best and growing markets with the most customers who are easier to trade with.

If the fish had a choice they might fancy their chances in Europe as well.

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[Peevemor]

there are no words to describe an individual that could come up with this...

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131986451_1319364911779461_1140862620717219269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=uhyVgsWKnykAX_qc7wb&_nc_oc=AQmPBE6m54TkdZLDFZztb1Hf4iZhUQVlM9bzJlzLh2W yJSyWrIUppN0314nSjlCDQbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=3004e4b1a9b97588b7a41e33830a2c9e&oe=600281DAWas it anyone of note that said it?

[heretoday]

It's the way our country is heading sadly, anything to support the government's policy of deflection and blame.

You'd think the torygraph of all papers would know that the finance houses make the business decisions to follow the money to the best and growing markets with the most customers who are easier to trade with.

If the fish had a choice they might fancy their chances in Europe as well.

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The fish are solidly behind Sturgeon.

[Bostonhibby]

The fish are solidly behind Sturgeon.Following a fish who will ultimately be squeezed dry by the Russians[emoji6]

I thought Scottish fish at least wanted to be different from Bozo and the nasties.

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[Keith_M]

So, it looks like it's No Deal then.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/2f75fa3a2c0d17f21139a5fa3f0b8ca5.jpg


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[Moulin Yarns]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/2f75fa3a2c0d17f21139a5fa3f0b8ca5.jpg


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Be aware that all transport to France is currently banned because of covid. This has nothing to do with brex****.

[hibsbollah]

War with France. It’s the only way. Channel the Agincourt spirit. Get Grant Shapps and Handcock as Minister for War and First Sea Lord respectively, blockading Calais on a pédalo.

[lapsedhibee]

War with France. It’s the only way. Channel the Agincourt spirit. Get Grant Shapps and Handcock as Minister for War and First Sea Lord respectively, blockading Calais on a pédalo.

:agree: Is it too late to make Abba's Eurovision winner Christmas No 1? :dunno:

[Future17]

Be aware that all transport to France is currently banned because of covid. This has nothing to do with brex****.

I agree the current situation is not to do with Brexit, but there were already big problems before the latest Covid-related ban and those problems will be exacerbated by Brexit, irrespective of what form it takes.

[Barney McGrew]

The cynical conspiracy theorist part of me thinks its pretty convenient this new strain of Covid has been discovered just before the likely no deal. Isn't it lucky that everywhere will be in a stringent lockdown and people won’t be able to go out on the streets to protest as things fall to bits?

[Hibrandenburg]

War with France. It’s the only way. Channel the Agincourt spirit. Get Grant Shapps and Handcock as Minister for War and First Sea Lord respectively, blockading Calais on a pédalo.

Ironically, this is one of the more sensible posts that I've read on the subject this morning.

[Bostonhibby]

Ironically, this is one of the more sensible posts that I've read on the subject this morning.So long as we keep our Greco-Germanic dynasty on the throne, we need to have someone to sing land of hope and glory and rule Britannia to.

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[Hibbyradge]

Ironically, this is one of the more sensible posts that I've read on the subject this morning.

What's ironic about that?

I disagree with the pedalo suggestion because I think a heavy duty inflatable or a lilo would be more manoeuvrable for when things get tasty, but other than that, point me in the direction of the home guard.

[BroxburnHibee]

there are no words to describe an individual that could come up with this...

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131986451_1319364911779461_1140862620717219269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=uhyVgsWKnykAX_qc7wb&_nc_oc=AQmPBE6m54TkdZLDFZztb1Hf4iZhUQVlM9bzJlzLh2W yJSyWrIUppN0314nSjlCDQbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=3004e4b1a9b97588b7a41e33830a2c9e&oe=600281DA

The people who voted for Brexit will lap that up.

[Jones28]

War with France. It’s the only way. Channel the Agincourt spirit. Get Grant Shapps and Handcock as Minister for War and First Sea Lord respectively, blockading Calais on a pédalo.

We should send an envoy to Parley with the Prussians at once.

[Jones28]

What's ironic about that?

I disagree with the pedalo suggestion because I think a heavy duty inflatable or a lilo would be more manoeuvrable for when things get tasty, but other than that, point me in the direction of the home guard.

A musket ball would go right through any inflatable.

[lapsedhibee]

I think a heavy duty inflatable or a lilo would be more manoeuvrable for when things get tasty

Disagree. We should send a heavy duty inflatable idiot with extensive military experience. Step forward, Commander Francois.

[Jack]

The cynical conspiracy theorist part of me thinks its pretty convenient this new strain of Covid has been discovered just before the likely no deal. Isn't it lucky that everywhere will be in a stringent lockdown and people won’t be able to go out on the streets to protest as things fall to bits?

I have two thoughts on this.

1. The British have long given up of effective protests.

2. The MSM have been barred or have chosen not to report any protests that are happening.

[Hibrandenburg]

Wait a minute!!!! How can France close its borders without permission from the EU? It's almost as if they are still a sovereign state within the EU, that can't be right.

[Killiehibbie]

Be aware that all transport to France is currently banned because of covid. This has nothing to do with brex****.

Have France closed all their land borders?
I did have a quick look but can't see any stories not talking about Kent

[hibsbollah]

Disagree. We should send a heavy duty inflatable idiot with extensive military experience. Step forward, Commander Francois.

Nadim Zahawi hasn’t been mentioned. Would be decent in a scrap, he could just sit on the froggy cheese eating surrender monkeys and suffocate them. He might capsize the pédalo/lilo/log flume boat though.

What happened to those nice aircraft carriers we used to have back when we ruled the waves?

[Hibbyradge]

Nadim Zahawi hasn’t been mentioned. Would be decent in a scrap, he could just sit on the froggy cheese eating surrender monkeys and suffocate them. He might capsize the pédalo/lilo/log flume boat though.

What happened to those nice aircraft carriers we used to have back when we ruled the waves?

The waves had a referendum and voted for independence. Aircraft carriers became redundant.

[Future17]

A musket ball would go right through any inflatable.

Hancock and Musket Balls.

[Hibbyradge]

A musket ball would go right through any inflatable.

Not if it was a decent military grade, Eastern European lilo like the one my dad brought back from Poland in the 60s. It took about a week to inflate and weighed a ton. My brother and I tried everything to burst the fu"*"r including stabbing it repeatedly with a carving knife, but without success. I think we gave it its freedom one year on a lake in northeastern Poland.

It's probably still out there, frightening locals and tourists alike.

[Moulin Yarns]

Have France closed all their land borders?
I did have a quick look but can't see any stories not talking about Kent

It is only stopping people coming from the UK as are several other countries due to the UK being the only country with the new more contagious variant of the virus

[Smartie]

Nadim Zahawi hasn’t been mentioned. Would be decent in a scrap, he could just sit on the froggy cheese eating surrender monkeys and suffocate them. He might capsize the pédalo/lilo/log flume boat though.

What happened to those nice aircraft carriers we used to have back when we ruled the waves?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829042/Royal-Navy-aircraft-carrier-rely-French-protection-war-Falklands

Do keep up old boy.

The blighters can't go to sea without the assistance of boats full of men in hooped shirts munching on onions, stinking of garlic.

Bit of an own goal if you ask me, when it's the sodding French we want to fight!

[Moulin Yarns]

There is a solution to the transportation of goods to and from France, with the huge lorry park ready to be used, and the vast majority of goods in containers on articulated trailers, could French lorries not be brought to the lorry park and the tractor unit switched with a British one, and the same for goods going the other way? No actual contact with the drivers.


Should this point be on the coronavirus thread?

[neil7908]

Surely this is the Brexit dream? Finally we have our separation from Europe. Now we can all reap the benefits of our independence from those nasty bureaucrats meddling in our affairs, delivering us food and medicine etc.

[Killiehibbie]

There is a solution to the transportation of goods to and from France, with the huge lorry park ready to be used, and the vast majority of goods in containers on articulated trailers, could French lorries not be brought to the lorry park and the tractor unit switched with a British one, and the same for goods going the other way? No actual contact with the drivers.


Should this point be on the coronavirus thread?
But that would require cooperation.

[lapsedhibee]

Now we can all reap the benefits of our independence from those nasty bureaucrats meddling in our affairs, delivering us food and medicine etc.

:agree: We should be eating only sovereign food, like kale, Westminster sprouts, etc.

[Jones28]

But that would require cooperation.

Took the words out of my mouth.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/more-than-33bn-wiped-off-ftse-100-amid-brexit-and-covid-fears?top

Maybe now the Brexiteers will take notice. 🙄

[Jack]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/more-than-33bn-wiped-off-ftse-100-amid-brexit-and-covid-fears?top

Maybe now the Brexiteers will take notice. 🙄

Is that not what the hedge fund managers and the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg are banking on to make even more millions?

[Keith_M]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/more-than-33bn-wiped-off-ftse-100-amid-brexit-and-covid-fears?top

Maybe now the Brexiteers will take notice. 🙄



Short Sellers having parties by the pool in Monaco

[Bostonhibby]

Is that not what the hedge fund managers and the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg are banking on to make even more millions?Absolutely, particularly the ones he manages for Russian investors and in Russia via the business that he moved from the UK to Dublin and Frankfurt.

That's Dublin and Frankfurt in the EU, all very patriotic.

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[Hibrandenburg]

There is a solution to the transportation of goods to and from France, with the huge lorry park ready to be used, and the vast majority of goods in containers on articulated trailers, could French lorries not be brought to the lorry park and the tractor unit switched with a British one, and the same for goods going the other way? No actual contact with the drivers.


Should this point be on the coronavirus thread?

Theoretically possible, but logistically a nightmare. Most of those trucks will have follow up loads to shift. I know 2guys stucknear Birmingham who delivered to Stoke on Friday and were due to pick up in Coventry today before returning with that load to Germany. Luckily their goods aren't perishable but it's looking likely that they'll be spending Christmas in a UK lay by.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829042/Royal-Navy-aircraft-carrier-rely-French-protection-war-Falklands

Do keep up old boy.

The blighters can't go to sea without the assistance of boats full of men in hooped shirts munching on onions, stinking of garlic.

Bit of an own goal if you ask me, when it's the sodding French we want to fight!

Ive actually been on HMS Illustrious for a walkabout. It was great, I got absolutely roaring drunk just off Tynemouth and had to be helped ashore. Those were the days when we had 3 aircraft carriers (ark Royal and invincible were the others) and the Royal Navy had the resources to wine and dine civil servants like myself :greengrin.

[Jones28]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/more-than-33bn-wiped-off-ftse-100-amid-brexit-and-covid-fears?top

Maybe now the Brexiteers will take notice. 🙄

Yay! Go Brexit!

[jonty]

The cynical conspiracy theorist part of me thinks its pretty convenient this new strain of Covid has been discovered just before the likely no deal. Isn't it lucky that everywhere will be in a stringent lockdown and people won’t be able to go out on the streets to protest as things fall to bits?

Possibly. But given that other countries are stopping UK flights for arriving, then it shows this new strain is being taken seriously by them, if not Westminster.

[Keith_M]

Possibly. But given that other countries are stopping UK flights for arriving, then it shows this new strain is being taken seriously by them, if not Westminster.


I genuinely have no idea as to whether this new strain is a greater danger, but the restrictions are being described in the German media as 'preventative' and 'temporary'.

I think they don't really know how dangerous it is either but it seems like a reasonable reaction until they know one way or the other.


I just hope this hasn't been over-hyped* by Westminster to cover for their own mistakes, as that would count among the biggest cock-ups in history.



* Nobody knows yet, except them.

[jonty]

I genuinely have no idea as to whether this new strain is a greater danger, but the restrictions are being described in the German media as 'preventative' and 'temporary'.

I think they don't really know how dangerous it is either but it seems like a reasonable reaction until they know one way or the other.


I just hope this hasn't been over-hyped* by Westminster to cover for their own mistakes, as that would count among the biggest cock-ups in history.



* Nobody knows yet, except them.

Preventative and temporary - Just like New Zealand. How I wish we could turn back time and force border closures earlier this year (and have people take it more seriously).

[CloudSquall]

Short Sellers having parties by the pool in Monaco

https://mobile.twitter.com/thoughtland/status/1341053489410170883


Details on current short positions, it's the most wonderful time of the year for some indeed.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1341046713365262336



horrible for the residents living anywhere near thousands of lorries, can only assume there's lots of air pollution as well :dunno:

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1341046713365262336



horrible for the residents living anywhere near thousands of lorries, can only assume there's lots of air pollution as well :dunno:

I'm guessing it's not a barrel of laughs for all the truckers cut off from getting home and with limited facilities to cook, eat, ****, shower and shave. Didn't Dover vote strongly in favour of Brexit?

[Scorrie]

I'm guessing it's not a barrel of laughs for all the truckers cut off from getting home and with limited facilities to cook, eat, ****, shower and shave. Didn't Dover vote strongly in favour of Brexit?

Dover voted 62% for Brexit.

[Jones28]

Dover voted 62% for Brexit.

You couldn’t make it up.

[Kato]

https://mobile.twitter.com/thoughtland/status/1341053489410170883


Details on current short positions, it's the most wonderful time of the year for some indeed.

Thank god they stood up to the "elites".

[GlesgaeHibby]

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1341046713365262336



horrible for the residents living anywhere near thousands of lorries, can only assume there's lots of air pollution as well :dunno:

Bojo lied about how many lorries there were on M20 during press conference. Claimed there only 174. Reality was 500, rising to 945 later tonight.

The guy will lie at every opportunity he gets.

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1341046713365262336



horrible for the residents living anywhere near thousands of lorries, can only assume there's lots of air pollution as well :dunno:Down with this sort of thing, it's not as if it's what you voted for or anything. Just arrived a couple of weeks early.

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[BroxburnHibee]

Bojo lied about how many lorries there were on M20 during press conference. Claimed there only 174. Reality was 500, rising to 945 later tonight.

The guy will lie at every opportunity he gets.

Why would he stop?

He and his party have been getting away with these lies for years now.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201222/325ab4a9d284b25fc3d9cf3f75dcd991.jpg


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[Hiber-nation]

Bojo lied about how many lorries there were on M20 during press conference. Claimed there only 174. Reality was 500, rising to 945 later tonight.

The guy will lie at every opportunity he gets.

Ah but Priti Patel just said that the lorries are moving all the time so these figures can change 🙄

[Stairway 2 7]

Looking like a fishing deal closer and a possible parliament vote on a deal on the 30th.

[Bostonhibby]

Ah but Priti Patel just said that the lorries are moving all the time so these figures can change [emoji849]Bozo should get her down to the M20 to bully them into moving back and forward a yard so they can say they're not parked up.



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[Moulin Yarns]

My brother in law is a driver for Argos and Sainsbury in Chelmsford, he said the M20 has been closed 6 times in the last fortnight due to tailback. I also think that there was no deal Brexit testing.

[Hibrandenburg]

My brother in law is a driver for Argos and Sainsbury in Chelmsford, he said the M20 has been closed 6 times in the last fortnight due to tailback. I also think that there was no deal Brexit testing.

https://newsthump.com/2020/12/21/brexiters-left-stunned-after-several-eu-countries-demonstrate-easy-control-of-their-own-borders/

[Hibrandenburg]

https://newsthump.com/2020/12/21/brexiters-left-stunned-after-several-eu-countries-demonstrate-easy-control-of-their-own-borders/

Leave voters were left reeling this morning after learning that a number of continental countries had somehow managed to control their own borders whilst still being part of the European Union.

France, Italy, Germany and Belgium have all banned flights and ferries from the UK into their countries, in an attempt to prevent the spread of toxic nationalist right-wing populist ideology, and also the Coronavirus.

Simon Williams, from Dover, was stunned by the news. “They, they just can’t DO that!” he stuttered, turning a new and deeper hue of gammon.

“Nigel Farage told us that being in the EU meant we couldn’t control our own borders and yet those countries are part of the EU, and have only gone and bloody controlled their own borders – just like THAT!

“Surely that wasn’t all a lie to get us to vote for an economically catastrophic break from our largest trading partner just to line the pockets of disaster capitalists like him… was it?”

One French citizen, Christophe James, told us – after he had stopped laughing – “Oui, it turned out to be remarkably easy to control our border. We just, you know, said ‘Let’s shut the border with plague island’ and within a few hours the restrictions were in place.

“After all, what does Britain have to offer us at the moment apart from lengthy delays at the border crossing and a new and more virulent strain of COVID-19?”

According to reports, a number of builders were seen this morning bricking up the Channel Tunnel from the Calais end.

[Scorrie]

Reports that the latest UK fishing offer ( which was a significant climb down by the way) has been rejected by the EU. Really does look like no deal now

[lapsedhibee]

Reports that the latest UK fishing offer ( which was a significant climb down by the way) has been rejected by the EU. Really does look like no deal now

Not to me. Still think Johnson will agree to whatever Barnier wants, probably on the 30th (to give an appropriate amount of time for parliament to thoroughly discuss it).

[Bostonhibby]

Not to me. Still think Johnson will agree to whatever Barnier wants, probably on the 30th (to give an appropriate amount of time for parliament to thoroughly discuss it).They'll give him a piece of paper with a spider drawn on it that he can wave about and spout forth with for home consumption - another tremendous victory over Johnny Foreigner, meantime boots continue to be filled at future taxpayers expense behind the scenes.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Eu wanting a deal at 25% UK offered 35%. Think it's all posturing as the tories know we need a deal, but they need to show they gave those eu scoundrels a bloody lip 👀

[Keith_M]

https://newsthump.com/2020/12/21/brexiters-left-stunned-after-several-eu-countries-demonstrate-easy-control-of-their-own-borders/


I get the distinct impression that you're enjoying our suffering.

Bl**dy Germans!

[Moulin Yarns]

Did you hear about poor Lord Lawson. He applied to the French authorities for a post brexit residence permit, so he could use his house in Cahors all year round. The French authorities turned his request down, as he's not a tax resident in France. Now he has to sell it. https://t.co/kU6ne0sUt4

🤣🇫🇷🤣

[lapsedhibee]

Did you hear about poor Lord Lawson. He applied to the French authorities for a post brexit residence permit, so he could use his house in Cahors all year round. The French authorities turned his request down, as he's not a tax resident in France. Now he has to sell it. https://t.co/kU6ne0sUt4

🤣🇫🇷🤣

Good though old news.

[Hibrandenburg]

I get the distinct impression that you're enjoying our suffering.

Bl**dy Germans!

It's not just UK citizens suffering as I'm sure you're only too aware of right now, plenty EU citizens stranded in the UK and wanting to get home. There is a growing feeling of "you've made your bed, now lie in it" though. The EU can't help the UK, only the UK electorate can do that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bojo lied about how many lorries there were on M20 during press conference. Claimed there only 174. Reality was 500, rising to 945 later tonight.

The guy will lie at every opportunity he gets.


unfortunately he now has carte blanche to lie, every tory does

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132150284_10159115033102387_1167081502516573695_o. jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=bOhGlSmojKwAX-6OQ2z&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=d03485da2ba8bf2b553e472669309b43&oe=6007A4F3



i feel for *every driver




*except brexiteer drivers

[Bostonhibby]

Did you hear about poor Lord Lawson. He applied to the French authorities for a post brexit residence permit, so he could use his house in Cahors all year round. The French authorities turned his request down, as he's not a tax resident in France. Now he has to sell it. https://t.co/kU6ne0sUt4

[emoji1787][emoji632][emoji1787]Uplifting to hear some cheering news in these dark days. It's important that all the leading Brexit mouthpieces are anchored firmly in dear old blighty.

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[Keith_M]

It's not just UK citizens suffering as I'm sure you're only too aware of right now, plenty EU citizens stranded in the UK and wanting to get home. There is a growing feeling of "you've made your bed, now lie in it" though. The EU can't help the UK, only the UK electorate can do that.


That's the problem. Most of them don't want to

:rolleyes:



p.s. My previous comment was meant in a light hearted way, but I can see how it seemed a bit cheeky, so sorry bout that.

[Keith_M]

Did you hear about poor Lord Lawson. He applied to the French authorities for a post brexit residence permit, so he could use his house in Cahors all year round. The French authorities turned his request down, as he's not a tax resident in France. Now he has to sell it. https://t.co/kU6ne0sUt4

🤣🇫🇷🤣


So, the president of the 'Conservatives For Britain' campaign, whose sole purpose was to leave the EU, has a Chateu in France... in which he's been a resident since 2018?


These people are the biggest bunch of hypocrites ever!

[Bostonhibby]

So, the president of the 'Conservatives For Britain' campaign, whose sole purpose was to leave the EU, has a Chateu in France... in which he's been a resident since 2018?


These people are the biggest bunch of hypocrites ever!Do as I say, not as I do has served the Nasty party and Brexit profiteers very well and a significant slice of the population have swallowed that.

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[Chorley Hibee]

Bojo lied about how many lorries there were on M20 during press conference. Claimed there only 174. Reality was 500, rising to 945 later tonight.

The guy will lie at every opportunity he gets.

BBC news just said there are now 3000!

[Callum_62]

Taken over a runway

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[Hibrandenburg]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132150284_10159115033102387_1167081502516573695_o. jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=bOhGlSmojKwAX-6OQ2z&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=d03485da2ba8bf2b553e472669309b43&oe=6007A4F3



i feel for *every driver




*except brexiteer drivers

Nightmare, no food, no toilets no facilities whatsoever. This is how the UK treats essential workers, most of these guys will have been working throughout the whole crisis.

[Hibrandenburg]

That's the problem. Most of them don't want to

:rolleyes:



p.s. My previous comment was meant in a light hearted way, but I can see how it seemed a bit cheeky, so sorry bout that.

No worries, that's how I took it to be. Just couldn't think of a witty retort. :doh:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Nightmare, no food, no toilets no facilities whatsoever. This is how the UK treats essential workers, most of these guys will have been working throughout the whole crisis.


a responsible(lol)caring government would at the very least supply basic facilities, you would think :rolleyes:

[stu in nottingham]

Nightmare, no food, no toilets no facilities whatsoever. This is how the UK treats essential workers, most of these guys will have been working throughout the whole crisis.


a responsible(lol)caring government would at the very least supply basic facilities, you would think :rolleyes:

I feel so sorry for those guys, the way they are being neglected is obscene and inhumane.

On the news earlier that Kent County Council had offered each of them one cereal bar each. Jesus, what is wrong with this country, talk about broken.

This country really is the pits sometimes.

[Jack]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132150284_10159115033102387_1167081502516573695_o. jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=bOhGlSmojKwAX-6OQ2z&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=d03485da2ba8bf2b553e472669309b43&oe=6007A4F3



i feel for *every driver




*except brexiteer drivers

Looks like the start of the biggest NASCAR race ever!

[JeMeSouviens]

So, the president of the 'Conservatives For Britain' campaign, whose sole purpose was to leave the EU, has a Chateu in France... in which he's been a resident since 2018?


These people are the biggest bunch of hypocrites ever!

He wants a low regulation, race to the bottom ****hole to make money in, not live in! Quelle horreur!

[hibsbollah]

a responsible(lol)caring government would at the very least supply basic facilities, you would think :rolleyes:

If Dens park in 1986 had facilities for a man to take a long dump(and its historical record that they did), we should really expect to be able to provide such cludgies for lorry drivers in 2020.

[Bostonhibby]

Outrageous we seem to be treating these drivers so badly but the shambolic management of even basic needs is symptomatic of most aspects of UK goverments "style".

They'll be along in a minute to tell us it's fake news and these are just close up pictures of Dinky toys taken from an archive.

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[Hibrandenburg]

I feel so sorry for those guys, the way they are being neglected is obscene and inhumane.

On the news earlier that Kent County Council had offered each of them one cereal bar each. Jesus, what is wrong with this country, talk about broken.

This country really is the pits sometimes.

I heard that Kent County Council have issued parking fines to lots of truckers waiting in the surrounding area. Shameful if true.

[stu in nottingham]

I heard that Kent County Council have issued parking fines to lots of truckers waiting in the surrounding area. Shameful if true.

Hideous but true.

https://twitter.com/PGMcNamara/status/1341027362356555776

[CropleyWasGod]

Hideous but true.

https://twitter.com/PGMcNamara/status/1341027362356555776

Do the wardens in Kent carry step ladders around with them? 😆

[cabbageandribs1875]

Do the wardens in Kent carry step ladders around with them? 😆



they share them with the asylum seekers

[Saturday Boy]

Do the wardens in Kent carry step ladders around with them? 😆

I bet they’re hop pickers in the summer.

[StevieC]

they share them with the asylum seekers

And the guys trying to watch football matches

[stu in nottingham]

Do the wardens in Kent carry step ladders around with them? 😆

Probably enacting a high five on the windscreen.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i hope this makes it to number 1 :greengrin i would say it comes under the factual Genre


The explicit song, by comedy rock group The K*nts, comprises solely of the lyrics “Boris Johnson is a f****** ****/ He’s a f****** ****” for 82 seconds.


The odds have now shortened dramatically on the track being Christmas number one after it peaked at number two in the UK iTunes chart. Paddy Power has cut the price from 16/1 to 6/1.

[cabbageandribs1875]

And the guys trying to watch football matches


my friends and i used them back in the day for climbing over the wall at ER, we had to keep scurrying around outside the old East and Dunbar end until the coast was clear

[Bangkok Hibby]

my friends and i used them back in the day for climbing over the wall at ER, we had to keep scurrying around outside the old East and Dunbar end until the coast was clear

We used to shimmy up a plank of wood

[Keith_M]

No worries, that's how I took it to be. Just couldn't think of a witty retort. :doh:



:aok:

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1341757829913456641

Eu deal imminent?

[cabbageandribs1875]

We used to shimmy up a plank of wood


very acrobatic :)

[Barney McGrew]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1341757829913456641

Eu deal imminent?

Just in time for the likes of the Mail and Express to hail Boris for delivering a Merry Christmas on their front pages tomorrow :cb

[Scorrie]

Just in time for the likes of the Mail and Express to hail Boris for delivering a Merry Christmas on their front pages tomorrow :cb

Which means they won’t have examined the deal in much detail as it is bound to include some pretty serious climb downs over “red lines” I suspect

[Hibrandenburg]

Which means they won’t have examined the deal in much detail as it is bound to include some pretty serious climb downs over “red lines” I suspect

It'll be interesting to compare any deal with what May had on the table. This can't end well for Johnson.

[degenerated]

Which means they won’t have examined the deal in much detail as it is bound to include some pretty serious climb downs over “red lines” I suspectThey've shafted the seed potato export market which accounts for 80% of Scottish potato exports which will be fairly big blow i imagine.

[The Modfather]

my friends and i used them back in the day for climbing over the wall at ER, we had to keep scurrying around outside the old East and Dunbar end until the coast was clear

It used to be good fun in the old terracing watching the young un’s trying to climb the fence and playing cat and mouse with the stewards. In the end they would just use weight of numbers and hope they weren’t the unlucky ones to get caught.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

It used to be good fun in the old terracing watching the young un’s trying to climb the fence and playing cat and mouse with the stewards. In the end they would just use weight of numbers and hope they weren’t the unlucky ones to get caught.



then after all our exertions we were out of breath by the time we climbed the 2,000 steps up to the top of the east/world :)

[lapsedhibee]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132288550_1668300423343482_2160461900807035310_o.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=N67wAmFX76YAX88Z1of&_nc_oc=AQkzxfum_bruMO19nWmMEIcvTedAzuq9s9GZgE7bP4b 97mKBLCflI5SzAO6wai86NiE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=1f41b26bcc1242cebb0176c19e0a2297&oe=6007F227
French propaganda. We actually beat the French, by a lot!

[Chorley Hibee]

Presenter on Sky News Breakfast desperate to tell us at every moment what a success this is for the PM.

Free press my arse!

[Moulin Yarns]

French propaganda. We actually beat the French, by a lot!

They 'only' get to keep 75% fishing rights, right? :greengrin

[Peevemor]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132288550_1668300423343482_2160461900807035310_o.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=N67wAmFX76YAX88Z1of&_nc_oc=AQkzxfum_bruMO19nWmMEIcvTedAzuq9s9GZgE7bP4b 97mKBLCflI5SzAO6wai86NiE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=1f41b26bcc1242cebb0176c19e0a2297&oe=6007F227Mostly Scottish waters too.

[heretoday]

It'll be interesting to compare any deal with what May had on the table. This can't end well for Johnson.

That's a very good point. I remember shouting at the likes of the Lib Dems to back May's deal but they were holding out for another EU referendum or whatever at the time.

We might have been saved a deal of trouble. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

[Ozyhibby]

That's a very good point. I remember shouting at the likes of the Lib Dems to back May's deal but they were holding out for another EU referendum or whatever at the time.

We might have been saved a deal of trouble. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

Remainers in parliament could have pushed us to stay in the SM and CU and stayed members of the EEA but they gambled on reversing the referendum and lost.


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[degenerated]

Mostly Scottish waters too.Sums it up nicely....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/c144cfd64b7f10bec8a9a95a687f5fff.jpg

[Ozyhibby]

Looks very like it’s Scottish fishermen and Scottish Farmers that have been shafted in order to get the deal through. Bet we hear not a peep from the Scottish Tories.


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[Keith_M]

We used to shimmy up a plank of wood


Are you one of the group of long haired louts that used to ask people for a hand to get up the wall, at the corner of the stadium near the Bowling Green?

I remember passing you lot as a skinny thirteen year old and thinking you'd lost your marbles.

[lapsedhibee]

J P Morgan ruling himself out of a lordship by saying this publicly (https://twitter.com/GuyReuters/status/1342050191973752832/photo/1)

[Callum_62]

Looks very like it’s Scottish fishermen and Scottish Farmers that have been shafted in order to get the deal through. Bet we hear not a peep from the Scottish Tories.


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well, thats a real surprise

[marinello59]

Looks very like it’s Scottish fishermen and Scottish Farmers that have been shafted in order to get the deal through. Bet we hear not a peep from the Scottish Tories.


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It will be a win for those Scottish fishermen who export their catch directly to Europe and the processing sector will be delighted. There will probably be more winners than losers.

[jonty]

It will be a win for those Scottish fishermen who export their catch directly to Europe and the processing sector will be delighted. There will probably be more winners than losers.

oh look, we've got a great agreement where we have less than we have before and zero input to decision making. but we have blue passports. yay.

[Peevemor]

oh look, we've got a great agreement where we have less than we have before and zero input to decision making. but we have blue passports. yay.Exactly, and Scotland gaining independence would leave England even deeper in the crap.

[lapsedhibee]

"Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."

:faf: :faf: :faf:

[Moulin Yarns]

Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."
"We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters Money we already had control over, Laws will have to be rewritten first, trade assume the EU will still be our largest market, fishing waters, apart from the 75% quotas for European boats
"The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK. Probably better than No Deal
"We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU. Or, we continue where we were before with the EU
"The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019. Or, we continue where we were before with the EU because anything else was so bad
"The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved. Yay, sovereignty, whatever that means
"It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021." No you wont, we are still dependent on trade with the EU
"A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end. The only reason for Brexit
"We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it.
"We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world." What about Scotland? We didn't vote for this

[GlesgaeHibby]

"Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."

:faf: :faf: :faf:

That's some amount of mental gymnastics. Lie after lie after lie.

[Moulin Yarns]

That's some amount of mental gymnastics. Lie after lie after lie.

Which is why, as well as posting the full statement here, I also posted on the Tory lies one as well.

[stu in nottingham]

'We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time'

Four and a half years! :faf:

[CropleyWasGod]

'We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time'

Four and a half years! :faf:

To be fair, when have we ever done it more quickly?

[One Day Soon]

Brexit, now a dead political issue.

[marinello59]

oh look, we've got a great agreement where we have less than we have before and zero input to decision making. but we have blue passports. yay.

Drop the sarcasm, I think Brexit is a disaster. I was comparing things to a No deal which I’d wrongly assumed was obvious.

[Keith_M]

Brexit, now a dead political issue.


So we're not allowed to comment on the effect it will be having from 1st January?

[Radium]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/f684ce914df6ff5851818750ac4a9125.png

... I am presuming that all will be well and nothing will have been buried in all that detail


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[Mon Dieu4]

Financial services are not covered in the deal

[Mon Dieu4]

How do you have complete control over your fishing waters if you have cut a 5 and a half year deal, do they honestly think after that time is up that they won't have to renegotiate another deal again and again

[marinello59]

Financial services are not covered in the deal

I think we will find there are a lot of things not covered, there will be gaps all over the place. Watching Boris trying to crack childish jokes here instead of answering questions properly hardly inspires confidence that he has any real idea of just what he has signed us up to.

[marinello59]

Brexit, now a dead political issue.

If only. :greengrin

[jonty]

Drop the sarcasm, I think Brexit is a disaster. I was comparing things to a No deal which I’d wrongly assumed was obvious.

Dry yours eyes, I know that. I was being sarcastic about the whole ****ing disaster.

[GlesgaeHibby]

I think we will find there are a lot of things not covered, there will be gaps all over the place. Watching Boris trying to crack childish jokes here instead of answering questions properly hardly inspires confidence that he has any real idea of just what he has signed us up to.

Spot on. He doesn't have a clue. But hardly surprising, given he probably tossed a coin to decide whether to back leave or remain.

[Bostonhibby]

How do you have complete control over your fishing waters if you have cut a 5 and a half year deal, do they honestly think after that time is up that they won't have to renegotiate another deal again and againThat's what I thought, then I realised that this time Bozo's got to peddle a smoke and mirrors illusion to the very people who were looking forward to all the "benefits", like the ones above [emoji16]just in time for xmas.

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[Mon Dieu4]

That is key. Service sector makes up around 80% of UK economy. I’ll wait to see more detail but this deal could be very bad news for one of the country’s strongest sectors.

Ive seen the release from the EU and it specifically states that Financial services are not part of it at the request of the UK

I'm sure the fish will more than make up the difference

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/fed3a7a9937fc910756c0076cbe96be2.jpg
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Handy guide to the changes.


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[jonty]

EU statements by @vonderleyen and @MichelBarnier are generous, gracious, reconciliatory, showing respect but regret. UK Gov statement all about our red lines respected, our sovereignty. Narrow view, self-serving, lacking in grace and generosity. Our little Englanders country now

https://twitter.com/smithbarryc/status/1342130765916733442

[hibsbollah]

The right wing press is cock a hoop...



Express;
BORIS Johnson has secured a historic trade deal with the European Union guaranteeing Britain's future prosperity and freedom.Farage in The Mail;
The war is over!' Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage declares victoryDaily Telegraph;
The vindictive EU tried to humiliate Britain. But we proved we have the character for independence’

[jonty]

The right wing press is cock a hoop...



Express;
BORIS Johnson has secured a historic trade deal with the European Union guaranteeing Britain's future prosperity and freedom.Farage in The Mail;
The war is over!' Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage declares victoryDaily Telegraph;
The vindictive EU tried to humiliate Britain. But we proved we have the character for independence’

Dont forget Laura Kuenssberg : Johnson gets the deal both sides wanted to achieve : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55429840

[hibsbollah]

‘Guaranteeing’ Britain’s future prosperity and freedom’ was the line that hit me hardest. The deal ‘Guarantees’ our future prosperity?? How ****ing stupid are we supposed to be?! :grr:

[Moulin Yarns]

the right wing press is cock a hoop...



[h=3]boris johnson has secured a historic independence for scotland ’

ftfy

[CropleyWasGod]

Erasmus has gone. 😤

[Moulin Yarns]

Erasmus has gone. 😤

All the best things have gone, but we have control of our money, and blue passport

[Bostonhibby]

Dont forget Laura Kuenssberg : Johnson gets the deal both sides wanted to achieve : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55429840Does Laura get another signed Boris photo to commemorate his latest triumph?

Will there be room for it on her mantelpiece beside her Boris VE day plate, Boris Candlestick holder and Boris Action Man figure with moving eyes and quick release trousers?

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[Glory Lurker]

Rule Britannia.

[Bostonhibby]

Rule Britannia.With a little help from her friends[emoji6]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/b547cd0c8f1d58989f0eab62ff68eb34.jpg

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[Callum_62]

It's fine lads Douglas Ross says this is a good deal for Scotland

Thank goodness for that, for a moment there I thought we were losing far more than we gained

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[Keith_M]

It's fine lads Douglas Ross says this is a good deal for Scotland

Thank goodness for that, for a moment there I thought we were losing far more than we gained

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So he didn't raise his flag and shout 'Offside'?

[The_Exile]

What I expect to see within 10-15 years:

- Independent Scotland
- Independent Wales
- United Ireland
- Chaos in England

[Paul1642]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.

[Colr]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.

It’s not a good deal its a bad deal. An unacceptable deal but its just not a terrible, disastrous no deal.

This is called ‘moving the overtoun window’ and is a major part of the Trump/Tory playbook.

[Callum_62]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.Explain whats makes this a good deal?

Compared to armageddon, granted. Compared against what was promised in 2016 or what we had? Wah wah

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[weecounty hibby]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.
A good deal was what we had as part of the EU. This is a deal of some sort and will be spun by the Tory press to be some sort of amazing, unique deal that only Johnson could have gotten.

[Keith_M]

I'm glad we have some deal, as it's better than no deal.

However, it's quite clearly worse than what we already had, so I'm not ready to celebrate. I'm also of the opinion that "The Devil Is In The Detail", so I'm going to wait and see how it all pans out before forming an opinion.

[Kato]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.

It's a failure no matter the deal or if there had been a no deal. Varying degrees but there is no "good" coming out of this for the vast majority of people.

[G B Young]

It will be a win for those Scottish fishermen who export their catch directly to Europe and the processing sector will be delighted. There will probably be more winners than losers.

Absolutely. Compared to the deal May was prepared to go with this will be a big boost for the Scottish fishing industry.

[Ozyhibby]

What a miserable bunch on here. No deal looked likely. Now we got what looks like a good deal. Seems like some of you just want this to fail for other agendas.

Scottish Tories certainly seem to think it’s a good deal and we will have no problems dealing with the EU. Means an independent Scotland will have a good deal with rUK.[emoji106]


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[Glory Lurker]

Absolutely. Compared to the deal May was prepared to go with this will be a big boost for the Scottish fishing industry.

But, undoubtedly, the arrangements we had as part of the EU were better. Any "victory" in the agreement is just damage limitation. That is how it should be analysed.