Euro 2021 non-Scotland games

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That's not a penalty

[Sir David Gray]

Spain penalty.

[Lancs Harp]

Penalty Spain (dont agree with personally)

[Lancs Harp]

Missed. Justice for me.

[Sir David Gray]

Spain miss the penalty and rebound.

[Hibbyradge]

That's not a penalty

I want Poland to win but it was a foul.

[marinello59]

Missed. Justice for me.

And me, penalty decision was harsh.

[Hibbyradge]

"There was contact but the ball was gone"! Wtfm when has the whereabouts of the ball dictated when it's a foul or not? :hilarious

[Sylar]

I want Poland to win but it was a foul.

Definitely not a penalty for me. Ref's made a few questionable calls in this game - no wonder the Polish players are getting ratty.

[Hibbyradge]

Definitely not a penalty for me. Ref's made a few questionable calls in this game - no wonder the Polish players are getting ratty.

He kicked the boy. That's not allowed therefore it's a foul in the box.

Anyway, mon Poland.

[Lancs Harp]

Been three great and entertaining games today. :thumbsup:

[RyeSloan]

"There was contact but the ball was gone"! Wtfm when has the whereabouts of the ball dictated when it's a foul or not? :hilarious

Danny Murphy is the worst of the worst.

So he studded him after the ball was gone so as the ball was gone that makes it LESS of a foul? Bizarre!

Turning into a feisty game! Not sure the Spanish seem to have much oomph about them so would love to see Poland stick another one in.

[RyeSloan]

Just meant that in the game this afternoon he walked away with a goal and an assist but thought he was anonymous for the rest of the game bar those two moments. Arguably he was a big factor in why Germany dominated the game so easily, IMO, although Germany did also play very well and Silva and Fernandez were also anonymous.

Or conversely since he scored and assisted the two goals Portugal did get he was the biggest factor in Germany not absolutely crushing them?

[JimBHibees]

Absolute torture at half time with the Lineker Rio and Micah England whining. No real analysis just we were crap basically only valid analysis was Klinsmann.

[Sylar]

Absolute torture at half time with the Lineker Rio and Micah England whining. No real analysis just we were crap basically only valid analysis was Klinsmann.

I quite enjoyed Lineker ripping the pish out of Rio for saying how easy it was going to be, to be honest.

Any half-time studio at the minute is incomplete without Alex Scott.

[Lancs Harp]

Absolute torture at half time with the Lineker Rio and Micah England whining. No real analysis just we were crap basically only valid analysis was Klinsmann.

Jim your anti english head should be in the wash today. Get a grip. Be happy :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

Danny Murphy is the worst of the worst.

So he studded him after the ball was gone so as the ball was gone that makes it LESS of a foul? Bizarre!

Turning into a feisty game! Not sure the Spanish seem to have much oomph about them so would love to see Poland stick another one in.

Twitter ripping into Murphy for the comment.

[Lancs Harp]

Twitter ripping into Murphy for the comment.

radge we get it you thought it as a penalty, no need to devote your life to it. I didnt think it was. God (not that i Believe) saw differently and made him miss :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Absolute torture at half time with the Lineker Rio and Micah England whining. No real analysis just we were crap basically only valid analysis was Klinsmann.

I thought they were absolutely fine.

Scotland came with the right attitude, played with desire and heart, Gilmour was excellent. England were lacking in those respects and Kane can still come good.

Hardly torturous.

[Hibbyradge]

radge we get it you thought it as a penalty, no need to devote your life to it. I didnt think it was. God (not that i Believe) saw differently and made him miss :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

I'm talking about Murphy saying it wasn't a foul because the ball was away

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That keeper is a bit iffy

[Lancs Harp]

I thought they were absolutely fine.

Scotland came with the right attitude, played with desire and heart, Gilmour was excellent. England were lacking in those respects and Kane can still come good.

Hardly torturous.

As you're probably aware Im an English Hibee, no complaints here and most people I know. Scotland had the desire and the game plan. Glad of the point to be honest but tomorrow is another day England havent become crap overnight and Scotland havent become world beaters overnight. It was a great night for Scotland and Im glad for you and the tartan Army. Focus on Tuesday.

[Hibbyradge]

That keeper is a bit iffy

The keeper was about to gather the ball but it hit the defender's leg and bounced away.

[JimBHibees]

Jim your anti english head should be in the wash today. Get a grip. Be happy :wink:

Your right. :greengrin

[RyeSloan]

I'm talking about Murphy saying it wasn't a foul because the ball was away

It’s Murphy that’s torturous…


“We call that eye of a needle stuff”

“Swinger. We call that a swinger”


Painful Danny that’s what we call it. [emoji2957]

[Lancs Harp]

Your right. :greengrin

:wink:Seriously hope Scotland get the required result on Tuesday.

[Hibbyradge]

As you're probably aware Im an English Hibee, no complaints here and most people I know. Scotland had the desire and the game plan. Glad of the point to be honest but tomorrow is another day England havent become crap overnight and Scotland havent become world beaters overnight. It was a great night for Scotland and Im glad for you and the tartan Army. Focus on Tuesday.

You keep misinterpreting my comments. :hilarious

That time, I was quoting the pundits in order to show that, despite Jim's assertion of "absolute torture", they were being fair in their assessment.

[hibsbollah]

Sczesny has been absolutely fantastic for Poland tonight.

[JimBHibees]

I thought they were absolutely fine.

Scotland came with the right attitude, played with desire and heart, Gilmour was excellent. England were lacking in those respects and Kane can still come good.

Hardly torturous.

Nah on and on about how poor England were at half time in a Spain Poland game.

[Lancs Harp]

Spain still play the same way they did when they were world beaters. But they havent got the players to do that now. All tippy tappy no end product. More chance of an England Scotland final than Spain winning this tournament :wink::greengrin

[RyeSloan]

Sczesny has been absolutely fantastic for Poland tonight.

Doesn’t fill Danny with confidence tho…

<can you tell I don’t like Murphy? [emoji1787]>

[Glory Lurker]

We need as few teams going into last match day on 1 point as possible, so much as I have affection for Poland a late Spanish winner would be ideal.

[hibsbollah]

I’m not enjoying watching Spain in this tournament. There’s just no cojones.

[Lancs Harp]

Doesn’t fill Danny with confidence tho…

<can you tell I don’t like Murphy? [emoji1787]>

Dannys a nice lad but is a bit boring and negative. He is infact the film negative of Micah Richards.

[Joe6-2]

It’s Murphy that’s torturous…


“We call that eye of a needle stuff”

“Swinger. We call that a swinger”


Painful Danny that’s what we call it. [emoji2957]

Also his remark ‘from an English point of view, we have nothing to fear from Spain’. wtf!

[hibsbollah]

Doesn’t fill Danny with confidence tho…

<can you tell I don’t like Murphy? [emoji1787]>

Hes Ron Atkinson pretending to be Murphy.

[Lancs Harp]

1-1 good game infact three good games today. Enjoyed.

[Joe6-2]

Hes Ron Atkinson pretending to be Murphy.

😂😂 I thought that too!

[marinello59]

Well done Poland, a well deserved point.

[RyeSloan]

I’m not enjoying watching Spain in this tournament. There’s just no cojones.

Too right.

Even at their pomp their tikka taka stuff was not exciting to watch. Technically superb but drained the game of the ebb and flow that makes football enjoying to watch.

This Spanish team seem to want to play the same way but are a poor shadow of their former selves. Totally lacking any drive or determination and have so far got pretty much what they have deserved.

[Hibbyradge]

We need as few teams going into last match day on 1 point as possible, so much as I have affection for Poland a late Spanish winner would be ideal.

Come on Slovakia and Sweden then.

[Glory Lurker]

Come on Slovakia and Sweden then.

Aye! They'll not both come off, though. Almost wish we'd got beat last night, I hate being killed by hope!

[Iain G]

Sczesny has been absolutely fantastic for Poland tonight.

He needs to be to keep Zibi out the team...

[MyJo]

We need to win against Croatia as even a draw will see us finishing fourth. If we can do that then the best case scenario for us in the other games would be:

Switzerland not to win against Turkey
Belgium to beat Finland
Ukraine or Austria to win their game outright
France to beat Portugal
Poland not to win against Sweden

Get those results and we will be in the top 4 third place finishers

[Sir David Gray]

We need as few teams going into last match day on 1 point as possible, so much as I have affection for Poland a late Spanish winner would be ideal.

My predictions for the other groups;

Group A

Switzerland to finish 3rd on 4 points.

Group B

Finland to finish 3rd on 3 points.

Group C

Austria to finish 3rd on 4 points.

Group E

Slovakia to finish 3rd on 3 points.

Group F

Portugal to finish 3rd on 3 points.

I'm still very confident that a win on Tuesday takes Scotland through.

[hibsbollah]

We need to win against Croatia as even a draw will see us finishing fourth. If we can do that then the best case scenario for us in the other games would be:

Switzerland not to win against Turkey
Belgium to beat Finland
Ukraine or Austria to win their game outright
France to beat Portugal
Poland not to win against Sweden

Get those results and we will be in the top 4 third place finishers

No, just get any two of those five highly likely scenarios in the bag and that’s enough.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Group A
Switzerland 1 pt v Turkey 0 pts

Group B
Finland 3 pts v Belgium 6 pts

Group C
Ukraine 3 pts v Austria 3 pts

Group E
Slovakia 3 pts v Spain 2 pts
Sweden 4 pts v Poland 1 pt

Group F
Germany 3 pts v Hungary 1 pt
Portugal 3 pts v France 4 pts

[JimBHibees]

We need to win against Croatia as even a draw will see us finishing fourth. If we can do that then the best case scenario for us in the other games would be:

Switzerland not to win against Turkey
Belgium to beat Finland
Ukraine or Austria to win their game outright
France to beat Portugal
Poland not to win against Sweden

Get those results and we will be in the top 4 third place finishers

So we only need two of them to happen.

[CMurdoch]

We need to win against Croatia as even a draw will see us finishing fourth. If we can do that then the best case scenario for us in the other games would be:

Switzerland not to win against Turkey
Belgium to beat Finland
Ukraine or Austria to win their game outright
France to beat Portugal
Poland not to win against Sweden

Get those results and we will be in the top 4 third place finishers

Belgium plus at least one other will happen.
However, the difficult bit is Scotland winning.

[JimBHibees]

As you're probably aware Im an English Hibee, no complaints here and most people I know. Scotland had the desire and the game plan. Glad of the point to be honest but tomorrow is another day England havent become crap overnight and Scotland havent become world beaters overnight. It was a great night for Scotland and Im glad for you and the tartan Army. Focus on Tuesday.

A good summary. Scotland are better in these games when can sit in and also break out much more difficult when we are on the front foot. Good thing imo for Tuesday is Croatia need a win also. They aren't as strong but still have loads of quality and will be a very difficult game no doubt.

[JimBHibees]

My predictions for the other groups;

Group A

Switzerland to finish 3rd on 4 points.

Group B

Finland to finish 3rd on 3 points.

Group C

Austria to finish 3rd on 4 points.

Group E

Slovakia to finish 3rd on 3 points.

Group F

Portugal to finish 3rd on 3 points.

I'm still very confident that a win on Tuesday takes Scotland through.

I think your predictions are how I see these games going.

[hibsbollah]

Belgium plus at least one other will happen.
However, the difficult bit is Scotland winning.

:agree:

[Sir David Gray]

So we only neeed two of them to happen.

:agree: I'd say Belgium beating Finland and Sweden avoiding defeat v Poland represents Scotland's best chance of qualifying.

A winner between Austria v Ukraine would also come in handy but I think that's a stick on for a draw.

[SJNB Hibby]

So we only need two of them to happen.

Remember, we can still get 2nd place if we win, England lose and there's a decent swing in the goal difference

[ekhibee]

Okay it's unlikely, but how many goals would we need to beat Croatia by to finish 2nd if England were beaten 1-0 by the Czech Republic?

[SHODAN]

Okay it's unlikely, but how many goals would we need to beat Croatia by to finish 2nd if England were beaten 1-0 by the Czech Republic?

We'd need to score at least 3 and win by at least 2.

[SJNB Hibby]

We'd need to score at least 3 and win by at least 2.

If England lose 1-0, and we win 2-0, are we not through on goals scored?

[Sir David Gray]

If England lose 1-0, and we win 2-0, are we not through on goals scored?

Yes.

[CMurdoch]

Croatia are an amazing national football team and along with Uruguay and Wales have provided me with hope for some time that Scotland could put a good competitive team together despite our tiny population.
On Tuesday our team drawn from a population of 5.5 million people take on a team drawn from a population of 4 million so there are no excuses for losing despite what I said in my 1st paragraph :wink:.

[SHODAN]

It isn't insurmountable that we could beat Croatia, finish 3rd, and play group E winners Sweden at Hampden in the round of 16.

[JimBHibees]

It isn't insurmountable that we could beat Croatia, finish 3rd, and play group E winners Sweden at Hampden in the round of 16.

Then possibly England at Wembley in last 8

[Moulin Yarns]

Croatia are an amazing national football team and along with Uruguay and Wales have provided me with hope for some time that Scotland could put a good competitive team together despite our tiny population.
On Tuesday our team drawn from a population of 5.5 million people take on a team drawn from a population of 4 million so there are no excuses for losing despite what I said in my 1st paragraph :wink:.

Scotland are ranked 44th, Croatia are ranked 14th. Population size is pretty irrelevant.

[SHODAN]

Then possibly England at Wembley in last 8

Odd how two teams from the same group could meet before the final. I guess there are too many permutations in the mix to avoid it.

[hibsbollah]

Odd how two teams from the same group could meet before the final. I guess there are too many permutations in the mix to avoid it.

:agree: the addition of the 3rd place team made that inevitable. It’s good for Scotland obviously, but I don’t really like that 16/24 qualify for the second round. It devalues the achievement a bit. I’d rather they expanded to 32 and made it a simple top two go through structure.

[Lendo]

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uefa-european-championship/story/4410772/euro-2020-what-all-teams-need-to-qualify-from-the-group-stage?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

A handy break down of what each team needs to do to qualify from their respective groups.

GROUP D

June 22: Croatia (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=477) vs. Scotland (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=580), Czech Republic (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=450) vs. England (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=448) (9 p.m. CET, 3 p.m. ET)

Czech Republic: Need a point to qualify which will secure top spot in the group. Can only finish third in the group if they lose and Croatia win and finish above them on overall goal difference.

England: Also need a point to be sure of going through, but must win to top the group. Will also qualify with a defeat if Scotland do not win to better their goal difference, and even then four points should be enough to qualify in third.

Croatia: Only hope of finishing second is if they beat Scotland, Czech Republic lose and they finish with better goal difference. But a win is almost certain to take them through in third on four points anyway.

Scotland: Must win but England must lose, and Scotland better the overall goal difference, to take second. Again, a win would almost certain take them through in third.

[DH1875]

Then possibly England at Wembley in last 8

So we are making it to the semi finals at least 🤣

[Billy Whizz]

Where do we need to be, to play a last 16 game, which is getting played at Hampden

[SHODAN]

:agree: the addition of the 3rd place team made that inevitable. It’s good for Scotland obviously, but I don’t really like that 16/24 qualify for the second round. It devalues the achievement a bit. I’d rather they expanded to 32 and made it a simple top two go through structure.

Whilst I would ordinarily agree, there's barely more than 32 countries in Europe. Qualifying would be pretty boring.

[SJNB Hibby]

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uefa-european-championship/story/4410772/euro-2020-what-all-teams-need-to-qualify-from-the-group-stage?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

A handy break down of what each team needs to do to qualify from their respective groups.

GROUP D

June 22: Croatia (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=477) vs. Scotland (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=580), Czech Republic (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=450) vs. England (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team?id=448) (9 p.m. CET, 3 p.m. ET)

Czech Republic: Need a point to qualify which will secure top spot in the group. Can only finish third in the group if they lose and Croatia win and finish above them on overall goal difference.

England: Also need a point to be sure of going through, but must win to top the group. Will also qualify with a defeat if Scotland do not win to better their goal difference, and even then four points should be enough to qualify in third.

Croatia: Only hope of finishing second is if they beat Scotland, Czech Republic lose and they finish with better goal difference. But a win is almost certain to take them through in third on four points anyway.

Scotland: Must win but England must lose, and Scotland better the overall goal difference, to take second. Again, a win would almost certain take them through in third.

We don't need to better the overall gd to finish 2nd---we can go thru on goals scored, although we'd have to score minimum 2 goals. What happens if we end up with identical records, and the 3rd place team doesnt qualify from our group---drawing of lots?

[SJNB Hibby]

Whilst I would ordinarily agree, there's barely more than 32 countries in Europe. Qualifying would be pretty boring.

Agreed---and its bad enough when we're one of 30 teams that don't qualify, would be rather humiliating to be one of only 22:confused:

[CropleyWasGod]

We don't need to better the overall gd to finish 2nd---we can go thru on goals scored, although we'd have to score minimum 2 goals. What happens if we end up with identical records, and the 3rd place team doesnt qualify from our group---drawing of lots?

Next test is disclipinary record.

Then the qualifying record.

Then the ability to correctly pronounce the names of the North Macedonian squad.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Swiss 1 Turkey 0


mon the turks

[hibsbollah]

Swiss 1 Turkey 0


mon the turks

Where is this game? I’d much rather watch it than a Italy Wales where there’s not as much as stake

[Peevemor]

Where is this game? I’d much rather watch it than a Italy Wales where there’s not as much as stakeI've gone for 2-2 with both teams, pretty evenly matched form wise, needing the win.

[hibsbollah]

Wow you know Italy have proper depth when they can bring players like Chiesa in. Great talent.

[HoboHarry]

Why are Italy wearing black arm bands?

[Big_Franck]

Where is this game? I’d much rather watch it than a Italy Wales where there’s not as much as stake

It's on ITV4

[chi-bee]

Scots and Swiss are now level on goal difference. Scotland will still be above Switzerland if this result holds and Scotland win on Tuesday.

[MWHIBBIES]

Why are Italy wearing black arm bands?

Giampiero Boniperti died recently, few days ago, probably for that. Big Juventus legend.

[HoboHarry]

Giampiero Boniperti died recently, few days ago, probably for that. Big Juventus legend.

Ah, fair enough 👍

[cabbageandribs1875]

Where is this game? I’d much rather watch it than a Italy Wales where there’s not as much as stake


sorry ITV4 yep,, 2-0 Swiss



turkey could do with Stevie Mallan :)


shoulda/coulda been 3

[SHODAN]

Swiss doing a good job of getting the third placed teams' points tallies off to a strong start. Great.

[MWHIBBIES]

If Wales keep a clean sheet, Switzerland need to win by 5 says John Hartson

They'd also need 4 points for a win John, because Wales are getting at least 1 point if they don't concede.

[Iain G]

The Wales 16, Morrell, keeps giving the ball away

[EI255]

Lest not forget, Alan Shearer tipped Turkey as dark horses to win this cup.

Oh. Dear.

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[J-C]

The Wales 16, Morrell, keeps giving the ball away


He's not the only one Wales's passing has been brutal so far they can't keep possession.

What a beautiful goal by Italy, right off the training ground.

[heretoday]

Goooooooaaaaaalllllllaaaattttoooooo....

[Iain G]

Wales could end up losing a few here

[MWHIBBIES]

Lest not forget, Alan Shearer tipped Turkey as dark horses to win this cup.

Oh. Dear.

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Easy to mock him after it, but he wasn't alone. 3 players who were brilliant for Lille in a league winning season. 2 brilliant young centre backs. The quality is there, they've just been well off it.

[hibsbollah]

Lest not forget, Alan Shearer tipped Turkey as dark horses to win this cup.

Oh. Dear.

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So did I :faf: I thought they’d be semi finalists.

[hibsbollah]

He's not the only one Wales's passing has been brutal so far they can't keep possession.

What a beautiful goal by Italy, right off the training ground.

Pessina the goal scorer played in the same midfield as Liam Henderson at Hellas Verona two seasons ago. I wonder if Liam says anything on Twitter…

[hibsbollah]

It's on ITV4

:aok: thanks

[Jonnyboy]

Wales will improve once they bring Bale on …. Oh wait

[Jonnyboy]

Harry Wakes😀

😂 corrected now ✅

[hibsbollah]

Scary thing for the other teams here is Italy have made EIGHT changes here, and they look just as good. Only the keeper, Jorginho and Bonucci played against Switzerland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

red card for wales



not too sure why he's complaining imo

[JimBHibees]

Seems harsh imo Italian players would normally have went nuts if a genuinely poor tackle

[MWHIBBIES]

Scary thing for the other teams here is Italy have made EIGHT changes here, and they look just as good. Only the keeper, Jorginho and Bonucci played against Switzerland.
They are very good. Well drilled, quality players in reserve, and a whole squad that knows the system well.

A bit of luck and they'll be right in there to win this.

[Glory Lurker]

Come on Turkey.

[J-C]

Never a red, a yellow all day long, we've seen it umpteen times this tournament and it's been a freekick and yellow every time.

[Pretty Boy]

Turkey are awful. I can't believe I was talking them up only a week or so ago.

[hibsbollah]

Turkey are awful. I can't believe I was talking them up only a week or so ago.

Emma Hayes said it, the body language is awful, they’ve given up.
Another top save from the Turkey keeper, could easily have been four

[JimBHibees]

Turkey are awful. I can't believe I was talking them up only a week or so ago.

They have been horrific. Do get the impression some behind the scenes stuff going on and or their preparation has been awful as they look miles off it.

[hibsbollah]

Screamer! Go on the Turks!

[Col2]

Turkey goal important even if they lose by one.

[Pretty Boy]

Yes Turkey.

What a team, never doubted them for a second.

[Billy Whizz]

Turkey goal important even if they lose by one.

As it stands, a 1-0 victory for Scotland would put us above Switzerland on goal difference
Still think there’s more goals in this game

[Glory Lurker]

As it stands, a 1-0 victory for Scotland would put us above Switzerland on goal difference
Still think there’s more goals in this game

Definitely still goals here but for Switzerland I fear.

[hibsbollah]

Yes Turkey.

What a team, never doubted them for a second.

:greengrin You weren’t wrong though. I think what happened is they’d stopped trying to play, some midfielders were trying long distance shots thinking about their market value and one of them came off.

3-1 Shaq, game over

[Keith_M]

Another fantastic goal by the Swiss.

[Glory Lurker]

Swiss GD is -1, so we'd need to win by two against Croatia to outrank as things stand.

[EI255]

red card for wales



not too sure why he's complaining imoDefinitely a red. And what a stupid thing to do

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[Keith_M]

That's a decent claim for a penalty to the Swiss.


But the Ref gives the player that was fouled a yellow

Jeez!

[HoboHarry]

That's a decent claim for a penalty to the Swiss.


But the Ref gives the player that was fouled a yellow

Jeez!
Yellow card was for dissent...

[Keith_M]

Yellow card was for dissent...


Yeah, I think the guy was a bit p1ssed off that nothing was given.

TBH, it didn't look much at first but the slow motion replay seemed to show a push in the back in the penalty area.

[Pretty Boy]

I want Wales to do well but from a Scottish perspective we could have done with them collapsing after the red card. 3 or 4 for Italy would have been lovely.

Tbf to Wales they have dug in well.

[Magpie]

Wales finish 2nd and qualify for the knockout stages.

[hibsbollah]

The youngest team in the competition, tipped to be dark horses, leave the tournament to a chorus of boos.

Turkey, you’ve been rubbish.

[EI255]

Well done Wales. But they'll go no further than last 16. Gave very little against an Italy B team tonight.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

Finland/Russia or Denmark next for wales

played in the Netherlands

[Magpie]

Well done Wales. But they'll go no further than last 16. Gave very little against an Italy B team tonight.



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They will play Russia as things stand, I think they would beat them again like they did in the last Euro’s.

[marinello59]

Well done Wales. But they'll go no further than last 16. Gave very little against an Italy B team tonight.



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Talk about damning them with faint praise.:greengrin
Wales have done very well to reach the knockout stage. I’m delighted for them.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well done to Wales again. Going through is a terrific achievement for a country of three million where football isn't the national game.

[hibsbollah]

Well done to Wales again. Going through is a terrific achievement for a country of three million where football isn't the national game.

Yep, a lot of players who aren’t regular starters for their teams or playing in the second tier, impressive.

But it’s been a lucky draw for the Welsh; the Swiss and Turks haven’t impressed, I have a sneaky feeling Scotland would have done well in this group.

[Lancs Harp]

Yep, a lot of players who aren’t regular starters for their teams or playing in the second tier, impressive.

But it’s been a lucky draw for the Welsh; the Swiss and Turks haven’t impressed, I have a sneaky feeling Scotland would have done well in this group.

Thought Wales were a bit lucky against the Swiss to be honest and did well to get a point out of it. Turkey have been hugely disappointing. The Welsh dug in very well today, Italy did make a few changes but still a very creditable performance against strong opposition.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Were Turkey supposed to be possible winners of the tournament? I'm sure they were mentioned amongst the big hitters.

[Lancs Harp]

Were Turkey supposed to be possible winners of the tournament? I'm sure they were mentioned amongst the big hitters.

Had some decent results in the last couple of seasons (beat France Holland Norway (away) and Russia for instance). I think winning it was stretching things a bit far but they have certainly under performed.

[Col2]

Things looking a lot tighter for a 4 points 3rd place finish (Scotland aim) to qualify IF we have a negative (-1) goal difference.

Group A - can only finish above Swiss if we win by 2
Group B - most likely to deliver with Belgium win over finland
Group C - watch out for Austria and Ukraine stitch up draw to give them both 4 points with +0 goal difference
Group E - Spain likely to beat Slovakia and it’s key that Poland don’t beat Sweden. The later seems in the balance as Poland are no mugs.
Group F - Germany now in form and likely to beat Hungary or at least draw and finish on 6 or 4 points with + goal difference. Then we need Portugal to lose to France for both them and Hungary to be on less than us. A draw for Portugal with good goal difference likely to be ahead of us.

I think we have gone from 90% certain to progress with a single goal victory to I would say 50%.

[B.H.F.C]

Things looking a lot tighter for a 4 points 3rd place finish (Scotland aim) to qualify IF we have a negative (-1) goal difference.

Group A - can only finish above Swiss if we win by 2
Group B - most likely to deliver with Belgium win over finland
Group C - watch out for Austria and Ukraine stitch up draw to give them both 4 points with +0 goal difference
Group E - Spain likely to beat Slovakia and it’s key that Poland don’t beat Sweden. The later seems in the balance as Poland are no mugs.
Group F - Germany now in form and likely to beat Hungary or at least draw and finish on 6 or 4 points with + goal difference. Then we need Portugal to lose to France for both them and Hungary to be on less than us. A draw for Portugal with good goal difference likely to be ahead of us.

I think we have gone from 90% certain to progress with a single goal victory to I would say 50%.

France slipping up yesterday hopefully wakes them up and they do the business against Portugal. The Germans generally turn up when it matters and that game being in Munich as opposed to Budapest makes a big difference. Fairly hopeful that group should go in our favour.

I thought four points would guarantee getting through as a best third placed team but there is definitely a chance it won’t looking at that. That said, it would still take quite a few things to go against us (if we manage to get a win).

[Keith_M]

France slipping up yesterday hopefully wakes them up and they do the business against Portugal. The Germans generally turn up when it matters and that game being in Munich as opposed to Budapest makes a big difference. Fairly hopeful that group should go in our favour.

I thought four points would guarantee getting through as a best third placed team but there is definitely a chance it won’t looking at that. That said, it would still take quite a few things to go against us (if we manage to get a win).


That's the problem, I can't see us beating the Croats. IMO, they're a vastly superior team.

I just hope that we put up a decent challenge... and actually scoring a goal would be nice :-)

[B.H.F.C]

That's the problem, I can't see us beating the Croats. IMO, they're a vastly superior team.

I just hope that we put up a decent challenge... and actually scoring a goal would be nice :-)

I don’t think they’re vastly superior, from what I’ve seen of them in this tournament. They’re nowhere near the level they were a few years ago.

[theonlywayisup]

If Scotland win 1-0 and England lose 2-0, what happens next.

Both teams will have four points, with a -1 goal difference having scored one goal. An identical record.

[B.H.F.C]

If Scotland win 1-0 and England lose 2-0, what happens next.

Both teams will have four points, with a -1 goal difference having scored one goal. An identical record.

Goes to disciplinary record.

[Sir David Gray]

Goes to disciplinary record.

Yep then if that's identical England would go through due to being the higher ranked team.

[wookie70]

Yep then if that's identical England would go through due to being the higher ranked team.
That is a ridiculous rule if true. It should actually be the opposite as being the better team should mean they need to commit less fouls etc. Pretty much sums up modern football though

[JimBHibees]

Yep then if that's identical England would go through due to being the higher ranked team.

What a rule that is, wow.

[DH1875]

Yep then if that's identical England would go through due to being the higher ranked team.

Great. We've just found a new way to unlucky get knocked out at the group stages.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Great. We've just found a new way to unlucky get knocked out at the group stages.

I very much doubt it will come to that :greengrin. Let's at least score a goal in the tournament then see what happens.

[Sir David Gray]

That is a ridiculous rule if true. It should actually be the opposite as being the better team should mean they need to commit less fouls etc. Pretty much sums up modern football though

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/026a-1286c3028f34-c072d2f81d9b-1000--who-needs-what-to-go-through/#

[wookie70]

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/026a-1286c3028f34-c072d2f81d9b-1000--who-needs-what-to-go-through/#

You are right enough, a coin toss or corners etc would be far fairer

"20.01 If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of thefinal tournament group stage, the following criteria are applied, in the ordergiven, to determine their rankings:a. higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams inquestion;b. superior goal difference resulting from the matches played among the teamsin question;c. higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams inquestion;d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking,criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between theremaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does notlead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given to the two or moreteams still equal:e. superior goal difference in all group matches;f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;g. higher number of wins in all group matches;h. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received inall group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion fortwo yellow cards in one match = 3 points);i. position in the overall European Qualifiers rankings (see Article 23)."

[MWHIBBIES]

That is a ridiculous rule if true. It should actually be the opposite as being the better team should mean they need to commit less fouls etc. Pretty much sums up modern football though

It needs about 7 different tie breakers to be identical, I don't think its something to worry about, and I really don't think it sums up modern football at all.

It has never and probably will never happen.

[JimBHibees]

It needs about 7 different tie breakers to be identical, I don't think its something to worry about, and I really don't think it sums up modern football at all.

It has never and probably will never happen.

It shouldn't be there at all though.

[hibsbollah]

It shouldn't be there at all though.

I agree. It should be decided on a game of kerby.

[PatHead]

It needs about 7 different tie breakers to be identical, I don't think its something to worry about, and I really don't think it sums up modern football at all.

It has never and probably will never happen.

There's the chance it could though and that is wrong.

[BroxburnHibee]

The Czechs and England both know a draw takes them both through. They might not deliberately play for it but if its still level after the break then I'll not be surprised in the least if it plays out like that. Seen it plenty times before.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

The Czechs and England both know a draw takes them both through. They might not deliberately play for it but if its still level after the break then I'll not be surprised in the least if it plays out like that. Seen it plenty times before.

Which would give England an easier tie in next round, albeit it wouldn't be in England. Would they prefer say Sweden/Slovakia/Spain in Copenhagen to Germany at Wembley?

[BILLYHIBS]

What to watch at 5pm ?

ITV Holland v N Macedonia

ITV4 Ukraine v Austria

[SJNB Hibby]

What to watch at 5pm ?

ITV Holland v N Macedonia

ITV4 Ukraine v Austria

Ukraine v Austria---anything but a draw---Austria need the win

[JimBHibees]

Ukraine v Austria---anything but a draw---Austria need the win

Can they not both play out a draw? Think one would play Italy if a draw.

[BILLYHIBS]

Ukraine v Austria---anything but a draw---Austria need the win
:thumbsup:

[SJNB Hibby]

Can they not both play out a draw? Think one would play Italy if a draw.

Bit risky for Austria--theyd be 3rd and not sure of a play-off spot. Would love to see Ukraine get thru and play Russia---would be worse than us vs England

[JimBHibees]

Think the Ukraine forward Yaremcuk has looked very good. Strong quick and a goal threat.

[SJNB Hibby]

There's the chance it could though and that is wrong.

Anyone know what the disciplinary record is for Scotland and England?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Anyone know what the disciplinary record is for Scotland and England?


SJM(and one other)booked v england


that's all i know :)

[chi-bee]

Anyone know what the disciplinary record is for Scotland and England?
England -1
Scotland -2

[SJNB Hibby]

SJM(and one other)booked v england


that's all i know :)

Yeah----we're on 2 yellows, them on one

[chi-bee]

Can they not both play out a draw? Think one would play Italy if a draw.

Hurt me head looking at all the permutations, but second place (Ukraine with a draw) gets Italy, and third (if they advance) will get, I think, either winner of the group of death France/Germany/Portugal or winner of Sweden/Slovakia/Spain. woof.

[cabbageandribs1875]

1-0 Austria


keeper has to do better there

[SJNB Hibby]

YES!!!!! deserved goal for Osterreich

[BILLYHIBS]

Ukraine 0 v 1 Austria

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Netherlands.

[oxymoron]

Goal - Netherlands 1-0 - against the run of play but lovely move and finish!

Being looked at for an earlier tackle!

...have to say Ally McCoist is my favourite of the in-game analysts. Entertaining and informative

[Sir David Gray]

A win for either Austria or Ukraine is a brilliant result for Scotland and I'd say that almost guarantees Scotland qualification to the last 16 with a win tomorrow night as I'm almost certain that Belgium will beat Finland later on tonight which then gives us the required two 3rd place teams that would be on less points than us.

[Mikey]

I think I'm right in saying that if today's games go our way, and the third placed team in each group ends up on 3 points, we'll know for sure that a win tomorrow will take us through on 4 points.

Does that sound right?

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Goal - Netherlands 1-0 - against the run of play but lovely move and finish!

Being looked at for an earlier tackle!

...have to say Ally McCoist is my favourite of the in-game analysts. Entertaining and informative

Should have been a free kick to Macedonia just before!

[Mikey]

A win for either Austria or Ukraine is a brilliant result for Scotland and I'd say that almost guarantees Scotland qualification to the last 16 with a win tomorrow night as I'm almost certain that Belgium will beat Finland later on tonight which then gives us the required two 3rd place teams that would be on less points than us.

Beat me to it :greengrin

[oxymoron]

Surprisingly good end-to-end game. I see a few goals here (but mostly from the Netherlands, as they know how to finish well)

[DH1875]

Surprisingly good end-to-end game. I see a few goals here (but mostly from the Netherlands, as they know how to finish well)

This Dumfries fella is a machine. Big move must be on the cards for him with the tournament he is having.

[Billy Whizz]

I think I'm right in saying that if today's games go our way, and the third placed team in each group ends up on 3 points, we'll know for sure that a win tomorrow will take us through on 4 points.

Does that sound right?

Think you’re right, as there will only be 3 groups left to play out

[Sir David Gray]

Beat me to it :greengrin

:greengrin You are right. :aok:

[Sir David Gray]

Sitter from Arnautovic.

[DH1875]

Sitter from Arnautovic.

Scored or missed? I'm watching the Holland game

[BILLYHIBS]

Scored or missed? I'm watching the Holland game
Missed

Took his eye off the ball at the vital second

No like him

[Billy Whizz]

I don’t think the Ukraine v Austria game is over
Ukraine surely will come out and throw everything at Austria, although a quick 2nd goal for Austria will kill them off

[JimBHibees]

I don’t think the Ukraine v Austria game is over
Ukraine surely will come out and throw everything at Austria, although a quick 2nd goal for Austria will kill them off

Yep think Sheva will have roasted them been very poor.

[The Tubs]

Scotland wants anything but a draw between Ukraine and Austria, right?

[Sir David Gray]

Scotland wants anything but a draw between Ukraine and Austria, right?

Yep.

If the score stays the same then Belgium beat Finland, the winner of Scotland v Croatia will go through.

[The Tubs]

Yep.

If the score stays the same then Belgium beat Finland, the winner of Scotland v Croatia will go through.

:aok:

[SteveHFC]

Yep.

If the score stays the same then Belgium beat Finland, the winner of Scotland v Croatia will go through.

It’s happening :hyper

[Sir David Gray]

Full time 1-0 Austria. :thumbsup:

[SteveHFC]

I for one welcome our new Austrian overlords.

[SJNB Hibby]

One down---one result to go....c'mon Belgium

[cabbageandribs1875]

Italy v Austria wembley next weekend

[Billy Whizz]

One down---one result to go....c'mon Belgium

Hopefully I’m correct, but a Scotland win by 2 tomorrow, puts us ahead of Switzerland

[Blaster]

Hopefully I’m correct, but a Scotland win by 2 tomorrow, puts us ahead of Switzerland

Hopefully Russia or Finland results go our way tonight and then just a win of any sort will do

[oxymoron]

Hopefully I’m correct, but a Scotland win by 2 tomorrow, puts us ahead of Switzerland

As long as Belgium win tonight we then only need a win, cos that would be two 3rd places on 3 points and we'd have 4

[cabbageandribs1875]

i have a feeling our friendly against the Netherlands a few weeks back was a dress rehearsal for the real thing :)

[Sir David Gray]

One down---one result to go....c'mon Belgium

A Denmark win v Russia would also be enough if Finland get something.

[Blaster]

As long as Belgium win tonight we then only need a win, cos that would be two 3rd places on 3 points and we'd have 4

Or Russia don’t win. A draw would give them 4 points and -2 goal difference. Defeat would mean they and Denmark only have 3 points

[chi-bee]

As long as Belgium win tonight we then only need a win, cos that would be two 3rd places on 3 points and we'd have 4

A Danish win will also do.

[cabbageandribs1875]

wonder if Belgium will take the foot of the pedal a bit, they're +6 GD over Russia 3 points behind

[oxymoron]

A Danish win will also do.

Thats right, a few permutations, but good to know going into tomorrow what is needed - so c'mon the Belgians!

[chi-bee]

Thats right, a few permutations, but good to know going into tomorrow what is needed - so c'mon the Belgians!

Don't think we need to worry about it, but the one thing we do not want is both Finland and Russia to win.

[oxymoron]

Just listening to Gareth Southgate on the Covid situation. What a genuine decent guy - no 'we are special' exceptionalism, recognising that many many others have suffered worse and the lost lives etc. Makes it hard to think bad of him and his team

[Billy Whizz]

wonder if Belgium will take the foot of the pedal a bit, they're +6 GD over Russia 3 points behind

Belgium have got a strong team out tonight

[JimBHibees]

wonder if Belgium will take the foot of the pedal a bit, they're +6 GD over Russia 3 points behind

Have been pretty ruthless in previous tournaments in last group games when already qualified. Looked very good v Danes.

[oxymoron]

I'm hoping that - as I suspected towards the end of the Croatia-Czech match - that Croatia are the type of team that come into a tournament and see how they are in the first game or so, and if they aren't looking like going far they would rather go on home at this stage than hang about for another week to go out in the next round and lose a weeks break. Here's hoping

[oxymoron]

Have been pretty ruthless in previous tournaments in last group games when already qualified. Looked very good v Danes.

Momentum, it's all about momentum. These serious teams don't do 'foot off the gas' surely

[hibsbollah]

Just listening to Gareth Southgate on the Covid situation. What a genuine decent guy - no 'we are special' exceptionalism, recognising that many many others have suffered worse and the lost lives etc. Makes it hard to think bad of him and his team

He’s a class act.

[Billy Whizz]

He’s a class act.


Not many would do this
https://youtu.be/GWqmqGsTTBI

[hibsbollah]

I can’t help hoping Finland get to the next round, Russia can still help us out.

[Glory Lurker]

I can’t help hoping Finland get to the next round, Russia can still help us out.

If Belgium don't win then best result in other game would be Denmark win. I think?

[hibsbollah]

If Belgium don't win then best result in other game would be Denmark win. I think?

Correct, they can help us by losing :greengrin I’ve switched over to the Denmark game, literally sure that was a goal there for Denmark, the old deflection onto the side netting. Russia look decent.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Denmark :thumbsup:

[hibsbollah]

Great goal, You don’t see a lob into top bins very often.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that Danish goal should help bring home some Bacon

[Billy Whizz]

that Danish goal should help bring home some Bacon

I’d rather have a pastry

[Lago]

He’s a class act.
He is 👍

[cabbageandribs1875]

I’d rather have a pastry



they need to keep Russian about for more goals if they want to get through though

[wookie70]

Not many would do this
https://youtu.be/GWqmqGsTTBI

Prince Andrew wears one every time he goes in. Southgate is a classy manager, not necessarily a good one

[flash]

That should have been a penalty to Belgium. Just a clumsy trip but still a foul.

[HibbyAndy]

Hazard is still a diving **** !!

[SteveHFC]

Limbs

[Sir David Gray]

2-0 Denmark. :thumbsup:

Scotland win tomorrow and it's last 16 here we come!

[bod]

I can’t help hoping Finland get to the next round, Russia can still help us out.

Just for their strip alone

[hibsbollah]

Great celebration by Poulsen.

[cabbageandribs1875]

just turned over, have belgium been trying to win this, or...

[Bristolhibby]

2-0 Denmark. :thumbsup:

Scotland win tomorrow and it's last 16 here we come!

Thank ****. A straight Cup Final. Winner takes all. Draw no good for either team.

J

[Pretty Boy]

Cup tie tomorrow now.

Win and you are through.

[Sir David Gray]

Russia should be down to 10 men, clear second yellow card not given.

[cabbageandribs1875]

wales play Finland or Denmark, great chance for them to advance

[cabbageandribs1875]

Belgium score :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Belgium

[cabbageandribs1875]

VAR check :(


away tae ****


Booooooooooo VAR

[SteveHFC]

Cup tie tomorrow now.

Win and you are through.

Have never felt more nervous about a game of football in my lifetime.

[Sir David Gray]

Goal chalked off.

[Jones28]

Offside give

[JohnM1875]

Looked well on in the replay.

[007]

Looked onside in the replay.

[Callum_62]

Looked really right in the replay I see, one of they get the lines oot calls

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[007]

Russia penalty

[Callum_62]

Penalty Russia

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[Sir David Gray]

Denmark 2-1 Russia

[Callum_62]

Lukaku was a fair amount offside actually

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[Jones28]

I’ve missed every major incident in these games by flicking between games chasing the goals 😂😂

[JXM73]

Lukaku's big toe offside...

[SJNB Hibby]

Poor couple of minutes for us there

[Glory Lurker]

Hang in there, Denmark.

[Sir David Gray]

We could really be doing with a Belgium goal.

[EI255]

Were Turkey supposed to be possible winners of the tournament? I'm sure they were mentioned amongst the big hitters.Shearer tipped them.

Tells you everything

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[Hibby70]

I’ve missed every major incident in these games by flicking between games chasing the goals 😂😂

I've been a victim of that in the past. Got the wee Sky Q preview screen on the bottom this time

[EI255]

I’ve missed every major incident in these games by flicking between games chasing the goals [emoji23][emoji23]Schoolboy error!

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[Callum_62]

Goal Belgium

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[cabbageandribs1875]

goal Belgium :greengrin

[Callum_62]

goal Belgium :greengrinEven that tried hard not to go in!

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[SteveHFC]

Scenes

[Onion]

1-0 Belgium :thumbsup:

[Mon Dieu4]

The tournament of the own goal this

[cabbageandribs1875]

i do feel for the keeper there

[Glory Lurker]

Feel sorry for the goalie,but yaaassss!