Euro 2021 non-Scotland games

[Vault Boy]

Absolutely horrifying.

The images and reports of Christian being conscious and breathing are encouraging, though of course they don't mean he's out of the woods completely. Hoping beyond hope that he recovers fully, swiftly, and there's no lasting damage.

The Euros don't matter a jot in the face of this. Please, please be well.

[Iggy Pope]

https://twitter.com/uefa/status/1403765507682193409?s=21

[jacomo]

It’s easy to criticise the media coverage yet we are all delighted to see that photo of him seemingly conscious as he leaves the ground.

He’s a famous footballer - people want to watch him play and want to know what happens after he suddenly collapses during a game.

I’m finding hard to be too critical here.

[Aldo]

I get that all broadcasters are probably working from centralised pictures. However the producer/director/whoever is in charge could have made the decision to cut to the studio rather than continuing the feed.

I get it's a tough situation for everyone from the cameraman to the presenters and a blame game helps no one but nobody needs to see CPR being performed and spouses in tears. Get away from the ground ASAP in such a situation.

Indeed PB however it was clear pretty much straight away how serious this was. To zoom in whilst he is receiving treatment, CPR and being shocked is an utter disgrace. Whilst the pictures will be centralised the boss at the BBC chose to continuing showing it which is out of order.

Showed no respect imho!

****ing vultures.


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[660]

Apparently broadcasters get multiple feeds. There was no reason to stay with the feed of inside the stadium. That picture of him looking better I also think is extremely distasteful to be honest.

[mutley]

Indeed PB however it was clear pretty much straight away how serious this was. To zoom in whilst he is receiving treatment, CPR and being shocked is an utter disgrace. Whilst the pictures will be centralised the boss at the BBC chose to continuing showing it which is out of order.

Showed no respect imho!

****ing vultures.


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Sadly , this is now the world we live in, something happens (car crash etc) people are more likely to stand and film it rather than do anything to help!


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[Iain G]

Indeed PB however it was clear pretty much straight away how serious this was. To zoom in whilst he is receiving treatment, CPR and being shocked is an utter disgrace. Whilst the pictures will be centralised the boss at the BBC chose to continuing showing it which is out of order.

Showed no respect imho!

****ing vultures.


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I was watching it hopeful of some positive signs that he was ok. As am sure most people were.

[Pretty Boy]

Apparently broadcasters get multiple feeds. There was no reason to stay with the feed of inside the stadium. That picture of him looking better I also think is extremely distasteful to be honest.

Agreed. I don't like that picture either.

I understand why people are happy to see it in that it shows him conscious and, to put it horribly bluntly, alive. However it's a picture that really didn't need to be taken or shared. When the time is right for news to be released then we will all hear about it. It really is none of our business regardless of his profession or the public nature of his illness.

[Moulin Yarns]

He is awake 👍

[Sylar]

That was really disturbing to watch, really affected me. I kept thinking how much pressure the emergency staff are under, a life was hanging in the balance and it depended on their actions. It really is unbelievable and their efforts are equally admirable.

Ill happily confess to being in tears watching it, as I was expecting the worst.

[Dalianwanda]

My mates a floor manager who was with bbc now with sky..just tweeted how disgusted he was with coverage. How it fell way below expected standards.

It’s not reallly important at the moment..Tiime for analysing that are once we know he’s safe and well

[Onion]

That was really disturbing to watch, really affected me. I kept thinking how much pressure the emergency staff are under, a life was hanging in the balance and it depended on their actions. It really is unbelievable and their efforts are equally admirable.

Horrible to watch. However the medics are highly trained for just such an event and were on the scene in minutes.

[JimBHibees]

I get that all broadcasters are probably working from centralised pictures. However the producer/director/whoever is in charge at the BBC could have made the decision to cut to the studio rather than continuing the feed.

I get it's a tough situation for everyone from the cameraman to the presenters and a blame game helps no one but nobody needs to see CPR being performed and spouses in tears. Get away from the ground ASAP in such a situation.

Agree totally

[hibby6270]

Danish Football Association have tweeted Eriksen is awake in hospital. Thank god!!
Next few hours will be critical.

[CropleyWasGod]

Horrible to watch. However the medics are highly trained for just such an event and were on the scene in minutes.

Ignorant question here. The medics walked across the pitch, whereas I wanted them to run. Is that their training?

[Moulin Yarns]

Ill happily confess to being in tears watching it, as I was expecting the worst.

I don't think you would be the only one.

I went to pick up my wife and she said are you OK as I had red eyes.

[Aldo]

I was watching it hopeful of some positive signs that he was ok. As am sure most people were.

Most were as the option was there however that should not have been the case imho.

I’ve complained which will go nowhere but was poor imho.

The guy was fighting for his life yet they chose to continue to show it.

Well done to the Danish players and the Finnish fans for the flags as screens


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[Iggy Pope]

It was horrible to watch but I kept watching, as it appears most of us commenting on it did, in the hope he would come through. If I hadn’t had that hope I’d have turned off and probably not come on here to discuss it either.

[Moulin Yarns]

Most were as the option was there however that should not have been the case imho.

I’ve complained which will go nowhere but was poor imho.

The guy was fighting for his life yet they chose to continue to show it.

Well done to the Danish players and the Finnish fans for the flags as screens


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Definitely this.


Support everywhere


The Football Association of Wales and all @Cymru players and staff are praying for Christian Eriksen, his family and @DBUfodbold.

Mae Cymdeithas Bêl-Droed Cymru a holl chwaraewyr a staff Cymru yn gweddio dros Christian Eriksen, ei deulu a Denmarc.

🙏🇩🇰

[Col2]

The BBC will be crucified for the coverage. The resuscitation and video of his distraught wife were just unacceptable. There was plenty of time to make that call.

Just so happy to hear he is recovering, fingers crossed he is ok.

[Ceebs]

Hope this true, puts life into perspective, fit guy, fingers crossed he pulls through.

[jacomo]

The BBC will be crucified for the coverage. The resuscitation and video of his distraught wife were just unacceptable. There was plenty of time to make that call.

Just so happy to hear he is recovering, fingers crossed he is ok.


They will. Everyone’s a critic these days.

[Magpie]

Kasper Schmeichel showed leadership and composure throughout all of that. Was straight over to comfort Christian’s wife too. I believe he was one of the first on the scene when the helicopter crash happened at Leicester. Seems like a brilliant man.

[NAE NOOKIE]

That was incredibly distressing to watch, my heart sank when I saw they were giving him CPR ... can't believe how shaken I am even now, the pictures of his wife being comforted by some of the Danish players were absolutely heartbreaking. Brilliant to hear he is awake, lets hope for the best.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The BBC will be crucified for the coverage. The resuscitation and video of his distraught wife were just unacceptable. There was plenty of time to make that call.

Just so happy to hear he is recovering, fingers crossed he is ok.

The footage of his wife was particularly tasteless.

[Pretty Boy]

By the rule book a game that can't be completed is played the next day starting at the same point and score at which it was stopped.

I don't envy the person at UEFA who has to make the decision around this one. I can't see how they can ask the Danish or Finnish players to play anytime soon.

[Cardinal Hibernian]

Like others, I was in tears and distraught. Encouraging news that he is pulling through.

I hope every player who has rolled around umpteen times feigning injury as if they were shot by a sniper is thoroughly ashamed of their behaviour and conduct.

A real opportunity here, if the football community can come together, to stamp out pretendy injuries.

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[Aldo]

The BBC will be crucified for the coverage. The resuscitation and video of his distraught wife were just unacceptable. There was plenty of time to make that call.

Just so happy to hear he is recovering, fingers crossed he is ok.

And bloody rightly so. We all knew it was serious when he wasn’t moving and at that point someone should be looking to stop the coverage ASAP.

Hopefully he’s on the mend!


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[Hibby Bairn]

For all those moaning about the "shocking" and "disgraceful" coverage...and it is all over twitter....just turn the telly off. If it was so bad and you were traumatised by it then stop watching it. You're in control of the pictures.

But let's blame somebody else. They didn't make you watch it.

[CMurdoch]

I was watching it hopeful of some positive signs that he was ok. As am sure most people were.

Same here, somehow inextricably linked to the guy after seeing him collapse in front of my eyes. Not watching it would have felt like turning my back on the guy.
I also felt massive relief when I subsequently saw the photograph of him conscious.

[Vault Boy]

Eriksen has been speaking, according to his agent.

[Hibby70]

For all those moaning about the "shocking" and "disgraceful" coverage...and it is all over twitter....just turn the telly off. If it was so bad and you were traumatised by it then stop watching it. You're in control of the pictures.

But let's blame somebody else. They didn't make you watch it.

Maybe we wanted to see that he was ok, without watching him get CPR or have a look at how upset his wife was.

[Tobias Funke]

For all those moaning about the "shocking" and "disgraceful" coverage...and it is all over twitter....just turn the telly off. If it was so bad and you were traumatised by it then stop watching it. You're in control of the pictures.

But let's blame somebody else. They didn't make you watch it.

Absolutely this, as soon as is saw CPR being administered I turned the TV off. Horrible thing to watch.

So relieved he has been revived, hopefully this isn't the end of a great career. Hope he gets well soon and is back playing at some point.

[Hibby70]

Surely by such a delay the game may actually be back on. Why keep the fans so long if not?

[Pretty Boy]

There must be at least a couple of players in the next game who know Eriksen? Lukaku definitely from Inter and a couple from Spurs as well maybe?

Tough gig for them to go out and play tonight now.

[Billy Whizz]

Surely by such a delay the game may actually be back on. Why keep the fans so long if not?

Think a decision is being made at 7.45pm

[jacomo]

Surely by such a delay the game may actually be back on. Why keep the fans so long if not?


Yeah that is strange. Should have told them to go home ages ago. They surely aren’t taking to the field again tonight.

[660]

Think a decision is being made at 7.45pm

It was 7:45 CET which was 20 mins ago.

[jacomo]

Oh… breaking news, apparently they will play again tonight! That is a big surprise.

[overdrive]

There must be at least a couple of players in the next game who know Eriksen? Lukaku definitely from Inter and a couple from Spurs as well maybe?

Tough gig for them to go out and play tonight now.

Is the game definitely still on? ITV are showing Tipping Point instead of the pre-match coverage.

[Pretty Boy]

It should be fairly simple. If both squads agree they want to go out and play then you finish the game tonight.

If not you follow the rules and restart it on a different day. In theory that should be tomorrow but in reality there is time to fit it in elsewhere.

[Magpie]

The game will be continued tonight at 20:30 Danish time.

The final four minutes of the first half will be played then a five minute break before the second half continues.

[Billy Whizz]

https://twitter.com/uefa/status/1403775827104370696?s=21

[007]

The game will be continued tonight at 20:30 Danish time.

7.30 our time.

[Pretty Boy]

If the players want to play then it's the right decision imo. I can understand why they would feel that way.

[Jim44]

For all those moaning about the "shocking" and "disgraceful" coverage...and it is all over twitter....just turn the telly off. If it was so bad and you were traumatised by it then stop watching it. You're in control of the pictures.

But let's blame somebody else. They didn't make you watch it.

100%:agree:

[tamig]

Same here, somehow inextricably linked to the guy after seeing him collapse in front of my eyes. Not watching it would have felt like turning my back on the guy.
I also felt massive relief when I subsequently saw the photograph of him conscious.

Agree entirely. If the coverage had gone I’d have been left wondering what was happening. Some folk calling the pictures involving his wife tasteless. Same pics also showed the great comfort people can give others in times of need - as a few other posters have also mentioned. Glad he appears to be pulling through. So glad.

[BroxburnHibee]

Wow! Game to resume tonight. This is going to be emotional

[Aldo]

For all those moaning about the "shocking" and "disgraceful" coverage...and it is all over twitter....just turn the telly off. If it was so bad and you were traumatised by it then stop watching it. You're in control of the pictures.

But let's blame somebody else. They didn't make you watch it.

Whilst I appreciate your opinion I think it is in pretty poor taste how this has been handled.

Maybe folk are not moaning but getting things off their chest at what they have seen? It’s good to talk!

It’s not about blame either. Somebody else should have taken control and no one should have seen the treatment etc.

The BBC have a duty to ensure what they show is suitable and they failed to do that imho.


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[hibby6270]

Looks like I may be in the minority here but this lambasting of the BBC for not cutting coverage sooner?
I don’t agree with most of your thoughts. This was a live event where something serious happened. The only way to keep abreast of what was a horrific situation was imho to stay with the live pictures.

Those who saw it unfold only had concerns for Eriksen and his team mates. In no way did the BBC suddenly think to themselves, wow this is juicy, gory, and just what the nation wants at tea time on a Saturday. No - they were covering an evolving international news event that was of interest not only to followers of football but I’m sure the general public as well.

And finally, although they did eventually cut back briefly to the studio before the broadcast was ended, spare a thought for those in the studio who were visibly shocked and no doubt needed time to compose themselves to comment briefly.

I have no qualms whatsoever on how this was handled. Sorry if folk disagree with me.

[BroxburnHibee]

Looks like I may be in the minority here but this lambasting of the BBC for not cutting coverage sooner?
I don’t agree with most of your thoughts. This was a live event where something serious happened. The only way to keep abreast of what was a horrific situation was imho to stay with the live pictures.

Those who saw it unfold only had concerns for Eriksen and his team mates. In no way did the BBC suddenly think to themselves, wow this is juicy, gory, and just what the nation wants at tea time on a Saturday. No - they were covering an evolving international news event that was of interest not only to followers of football but I’m sure the general public as well.

And finally, although they did eventually cut back briefly to the studio before the broadcast was ended, spare a thought for those in the studio who were visibly shocked and no doubt needed time to compose themselves to comment briefly.

I have no qualms whatsoever on how this was handled. Sorry if folk disagree with me.

I agree with all of that.

[EdinMike]

Surprised that it’s going ahead, like most others I was a little shaken watching that. Full respect to the players of both teams being able to carry on.

[660]

Looks like I may be in the minority here but this lambasting of the BBC for not cutting coverage sooner?
I don’t agree with most of your thoughts. This was a live event where something serious happened. The only way to keep abreast of what was a horrific situation was imho to stay with the live pictures.

Those who saw it unfold only had concerns for Eriksen and his team mates. In no way did the BBC suddenly think to themselves, wow this is juicy, gory, and just what the nation wants at tea time on a Saturday. No - they were covering an evolving international news event that was of interest not only to followers of football but I’m sure the general public as well.

And finally, although they did eventually cut back briefly to the studio before the broadcast was ended, spare a thought for those in the studio who were visibly shocked and no doubt needed time to compose themselves to comment briefly.

I have no qualms whatsoever on how this was handled. Sorry if folk disagree with me.

A medical incident involving a football player is an “international news event” because it happened to occur on a football pitch therefore TV companies were correct to broadcast footage of the treatment and of his wife’s reaction?

Human dignity and a family’s privacy should be more of a priority frankly.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't think anyone is suggesting coverage was cut completely.

However I remember the Fabrice Muamba incident and Sky immediately cut to crowd shots or just focused the cameras on other parts of the pitch. Going further back the camera cut away from Alen Orman very quickly as he had his seizure. Obviously we all wanted Eriksen to pull through and there's an interest in these things that is entirely natural. The initial couple of minutes are understandable as people behind the scenes scramble about trying to regain control of an uncontrollable situation. The shots of his wife and teammates were further down the line, unnecessary and tasteless.

[HoboHarry]

Looks like I may be in the minority here but this lambasting of the BBC for not cutting coverage sooner?
I don’t agree with most of your thoughts. This was a live event where something serious happened. The only way to keep abreast of what was a horrific situation was imho to stay with the live pictures.

Those who saw it unfold only had concerns for Eriksen and his team mates. In no way did the BBC suddenly think to themselves, wow this is juicy, gory, and just what the nation wants at tea time on a Saturday. No - they were covering an evolving international news event that was of interest not only to followers of football but I’m sure the general public as well.

And finally, although they did eventually cut back briefly to the studio before the broadcast was ended, spare a thought for those in the studio who were visibly shocked and no doubt needed time to compose themselves to comment briefly.

I have no qualms whatsoever on how this was handled. Sorry if folk disagree with me.
My thinking is along the same lines as you. The broadcaster can't win in these situations, they can be accused of showing too much and equally of sanitising the scene to make us more comfortable if they cut it off. This is real life, no matter how traumatic, and the scenes we witnessed are nothing to what his wife and family will have experienced and will continue to do so for some time to come.

[HH81]

Are the games tonight going to be on TV?

Both BBC and ITV showing other stuff now.

[Sir David Gray]

If he's looking like he's going to pull through and it's true that he's conscious and talking then I can understand why they would want the game to restart.

[jacomo]

Are the games tonight going to be on TV?

Both BBC and ITV showing other stuff now.


Apparently we’re not allowed to watch it because the BBC must hang their heads in shame or something.

[Mon Dieu4]

Are the games tonight going to be on TV?

Both BBC and ITV showing other stuff now.

Lineker saying BBC one at 7.25

[Sir David Gray]

Looks like I may be in the minority here but this lambasting of the BBC for not cutting coverage sooner?
I don’t agree with most of your thoughts. This was a live event where something serious happened. The only way to keep abreast of what was a horrific situation was imho to stay with the live pictures.

Those who saw it unfold only had concerns for Eriksen and his team mates. In no way did the BBC suddenly think to themselves, wow this is juicy, gory, and just what the nation wants at tea time on a Saturday. No - they were covering an evolving international news event that was of interest not only to followers of football but I’m sure the general public as well.

And finally, although they did eventually cut back briefly to the studio before the broadcast was ended, spare a thought for those in the studio who were visibly shocked and no doubt needed time to compose themselves to comment briefly.

I have no qualms whatsoever on how this was handled. Sorry if folk disagree with me.

Totally agree with you.

[HH81]

Lineker saying BBC one at 7.25

Cheers.

[Stairway 2 7]

Cheers.

Seems not

[Stairway 2 7]

Seems not

Seems so

[Lago]

I agree with all of that.
So do I

[Vault Boy]

Eriksen spoke to his team mates from his hospital bed and encouraged them to continue, according to reports.

[Pretty Boy]

For all the criticism of the BBC, including by me, the presenters and pundits have been superb, particularly Gary Lineker and Alex Scott.

[Keyser Sauzee]

For all the criticism of the BBC, including by me, the presenters and pundits have been superb, particularly Gary Lineker and Alex Scott.

Agree, u can see they are still shaken by it and fair play to them for carrying on.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

In an attempt to lighten the mood I'm going to provide a round of applause for Alex Scott's outfit. 😘

[Since90+2]

BBC could have quite easily cut to BBC news or something. There is no excuse whatever for zooming in on the guy getting CPR and a close up of his face that looked like he was close to passing away.

I can't get my head around why anybody would think that was a good idea. This is not a reality TV show in a movie.

[Billy Whizz]

You can see quite a number of fans have left, can’t really blame them

[marinello59]

Eriksen spoke to his team mates from his hospital bed and encouraged them to continue, according to reports.

I’m not surprised he said that . And of course the players would all have said if asked that they wanted to play on. I hope somebody counselled them properly though, they have all been through a major trauma. I would have expected my boss to say thanks for being willing to go on but best not. Several of those guys are going to hit an emotional wall over the next few days.
Main thing though is Eriksen is fine .

[Pretty Boy]

BBC could have quite easily cut to BBC news or something. There is no excuse whatever for zooming in on the guy getting CPR and a close up of his face that looked like he was close to passing away.

I can't get my head around why anybody would think that was a good idea. This is not a reality TV show in a movie.

Tbf I think the vast majority of people defending the coverage have put their case forward well and given compelling reasons for why they think the way they do. I like to think those of us who criticised the coverage did likewise. 1 or 2 have lowered the tone a bit but that's always going to happen, for the most part it's been a frank but respectful exchange of views.

It's a situation hardly any of us have ever witnessed before and something so emotive will always provoke a reaction. I wouldn't like to have been calling the shots, it's easy for me to snipe from the sidelines. Gary Lineker apologised for any distress caused, that should be the end of things.

[Billy Whizz]

I’m not surprised he said that . And of course the players would all have said if asked that they wanted to play on. I hope somebody counselled them properly though, they have all been through a major trauma. I would have expected my boss to say thanks for being willing to go on but best not. Several of those guys are going to hit an emotional wall over the next few days.
Main thing though is Eriksen is fine .

Great post

[jacomo]

I’m not surprised he said that . And of course the players would all have said if asked that they wanted to play on. I hope somebody counselled them properly though, they have all been through a major trauma. I would have expected my boss to say thanks for being willing to go on but best not. Several of those guys are going to hit an emotional wall over the next few days.
Main thing though is Eriksen is fine .


We are all much more attuned to mental health and psychological trauma these days, which is obviously positive, but…

Sometimes it is best just to get on with things.

[Since90+2]

Tbf I think the vast majority of people defending the coverage have put their case forward well and given compelling reasons for why they think the way they do. I like to think those of us who criticised the coverage did likewise. 1 or 2 have lowered the tone a bit but that's always going to happen, for the most part it's been a frank but respectful exchange of views.

It's a situation hardly any of us have ever witnessed before and something so emotive will always provoke a reaction. I wouldn't like to have been calling the shots, it's easy for me to snipe from the sidelines. Gary Lineker apologised for any distress caused, that should be the end of things.

I've not read the thread so it's not a criticism of any posts that have went before. I'm just in shock at what I saw earlier on and think it was unbelievable for a national broadcaster not to cut elsewhere when it happened.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Understandably the game is being played at a much slower pace.

[hibby6270]

A medical incident involving a football player is an “international news event” because it happened to occur on a football pitch therefore TV companies were correct to broadcast footage of the treatment and of his wife’s reaction?

Human dignity and a family’s privacy should be more of a priority frankly.

I’ve said my piece on the tv coverage and I stand by it.

However, I completely get the sentiment of your final sentence. It’s a fine line between “OTT coverage” and consideration of human feelings. We all view these situations differently. That’s what makes us humanoids so unique. What is on person’s horror is another person’s intrigue. Happy mediums in these situations are almost impossible to arrive at.

[660]

I’ve said my piece on the tv coverage and I stand by it.

However, I completely get the sentiment of your final sentence. It’s a fine line between “OTT coverage” and consideration of human feelings. We all view these situations differently. That’s what makes us humanoids so unique. What is on person’s horror is another person’s intrigue. Happy mediums in these situations are almost impossible to arrive at.

Fair enough mate.

[Onion]

BBC could have quite easily cut to BBC news or something. There is no excuse whatever for zooming in on the guy getting CPR and a close up of his face that looked like he was close to passing away.

I can't get my head around why anybody would think that was a good idea. This is not a reality TV show in a movie.

Agree with that. TV cameras follow serious injuries all the time, including serious head knocks, usually ending in the player making a full recovery to everyone's relief. The difference this time is CPR ! The minute the BBC producer saw this was the point to cut away an accept there is nothing normal about this. The images of Eriksen's wife were also in poor taste. That was pure voyeurism, nothing to do with the incident itself and all to build the horror of the moment.

BBC have a tough job, but they failed the decency test this time.

[660]

This is awkward

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Finland.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Schmeichel saves that any other day of the week.

[hibby6270]

Tbf I think the vast majority of people defending the coverage have put their case forward well and given compelling reasons for why they think the way they do. I like to think those of us who criticised the coverage did likewise. 1 or 2 have lowered the tone a bit but that's always going to happen, for the most part it's been a frank but respectful exchange of views.

It's a situation hardly any of us have ever witnessed before and something so emotive will always provoke a reaction. I wouldn't like to have been calling the shots, it's easy for me to snipe from the sidelines. Gary Lineker apologised for any distress caused, that should be the end of things.

Absolutely.
In situations like this, 3 football events immediately spring to mind. Hillsborough, Heysel and Bradford.
All horrific events in their own right but they were all covered “ live “ and we sat (well those old enough on here:greengrin) and watched them unfold before our very eyes. This afternoon’s sad occurrence was no different in my eyes. Some will agree, others won’t but on this occasion the fact that Eriksen is stable and alert is all that matters.

[jacomo]

Schmeichel saves that any other day of the week.


:agree:

[Argylehibby]

Agree with that. TV cameras follow serious injuries all the time, including serious head knocks, usually ending in the player making a full recovery to everyone's relief. The difference this time is CPR ! The minute the BBC producer saw this was the point to cut away an accept there is nothing normal about this. The images of Eriksen's wife were also in poor taste. That was pure voyeurism, nothing to do with the incident itself and all to build the horror of the moment.

BBC have a tough job, but they failed the decency test this time.

The BBC have no control over the pictures being fed through other than to switch off completely. The decision to show the CPR is made locally and broadcast to all countries buying the game.

[Pretty Boy]

That is as soft a penalty as you will ever see.

[Jay]

We are all much more attuned to mental health and psychological trauma these days, which is obviously positive, but…

Sometimes it is best just to get on with things.

Most of the time it's not. The come down from something like this will hit them hard. Probably tonight. I'm absolutely shocked they are playing tonight.

[Jim44]

That is as soft a penalty as you will ever see.

Shocking decision by the referee but justice prevailed.

[Pretty Boy]

Easiest penalty save that keeper will ever have. Nevinesque.

[Iain G]

That is as soft a penalty as you will ever see.

The award or the attempt at goal?

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Belgium

[I'm_cabbaged]

1-0 Belgium

Just when I thought that I couldn’t get anymore confused about the offside rule 🤣🤣

[DH1875]

Just when I thought that I couldn’t get anymore confused about the offside rule 🤣🤣

Yup. No idea how that's not offside.

[Helensburghhibs]

Yup. No idea how that's not offside.

Couldn't believe it last night when they gave an Italian player offside straight from a corner 😳

[Callum_62]

Couldn't believe it last night when they gave an Italian player offside straight from a corner [emoji15]Why? He was attacking side of the ball with only the goalie possibly inline

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[MWHIBBIES]

Yup. No idea how that's not offside.

Really? It was explained by the ref on commentary. An deliberate attempt was made by the defender to play the ball, meaning Lukaku couldn't be offside.

[Billy Whizz]

Really? It was explained by the ref on commentary. An deliberate attempt was made by the defender to play the ball, meaning Lukaku couldn't be offside.

That’s fine, but the average football fan like me, hasn’t a scooby about the rules

[MWHIBBIES]

That’s fine, but the average football fan like me, hasn’t a scooby about the rules

No offense, but that is why you listen to the commentary where they have a ex professional referee explain these things.

That rule has been around as long as I can remember.

[Mon Dieu4]

2-0 Belgium

[whiskyhibby]

Denmark should have won by 2-3 goals , but if they had got a point as a result of that penalty, it would have been a complete travesty. How the VAR judges didn’t pick that up………they should be able to cancel a penalty, just as much as award one

[MWHIBBIES]

Denmark should have won by 2-3 goals , but if they had got a point as a result of that penalty, it would have been a complete travesty. How the VAR judges didn’t pick that up………they should be able to cancel a penalty, just as much as award one

They are able to do that. They just deemed there to be contact.

I agree it was soft, but you see fouls for that all the time. About 10 times a game defenders go down under less contact when a forward is chasing them down.

[whiskyhibby]

The angle I saw from behind the goal showed absolutely no contact at the point the player went down , absolutely shocking decision

[HibbyAndy]

Where are people watching the Denmark game ?:confused:

[Sir David Gray]

where are people watching the denmark game ?:confused:

Bbc1.

[CentreLine]

Where are people watching the Denmark game ?:confused:

Finished now but was on BBC1

[McD]

Couldn't believe it last night when they gave an Italian player offside straight from a corner 😳


Why? He was attacking side of the ball with only the goalie possibly inline

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:agree:

it was obvious he was offside, stupid of his teammate to play the ball back to him

he wasn’t offside straight from the corner, he played it a couple of yards to his teammate who immediately played it back (which kind of rendered the initial kick a bit pointless), leaving the corner taker in an offside position as there weren’t 2 players between him and the goal line

[Iain G]

I think someone at ITV has gone mad with their studio set! It's very sci-fi and way over the top 🤣

[DH1875]

Russia subbing their sub.

[Sylar]

That was a nasty collision earlier that saw the Belgian guy going off with a suspected fractured eye-socket. Hope he's alright!

Incidentally, Simon Kjaer deserves some special kind of recognition for his reaction tonight. Stopped Eriksen swallowing his tongue, started CPR, got him into position for the paramedics coming on, instructed the team to form a shield around him and then comforted his wife as she came pitchside. Not all heroes wear capes.

[ekhibee]

They are able to do that. They just deemed there to be contact.

I agree it was soft, but you see fouls for that all the time. About 10 times a game defenders go down under less contact when a forward is chasing them down.

It still shouldn't have been a penalty.

[DH1875]

Really? It was explained by the ref on commentary. An deliberate attempt was made by the defender to play the ball, meaning Lukaku couldn't be offside.

Lee Dixon is doing the commentary. I tend to switch off when he is on.

[Calmbegbie]

All thoughts with Eriksen. I’ve seen on the BBC site that he is awake in hospital now so hopefully, he is well on the mend.

[Sir David Gray]

3-0 Belgium.

[MWHIBBIES]

Lukaku is a brilliant striker. His record for Belgium is scary.

[hibsbollah]

Lukaku is a brilliant striker. His record for Belgium is scary.

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

[Dmas]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

Above lewandowski? Lukaku is a fantastic striker and criminally underrated as you say but not on the same level as Lewandowski 203 goals in 216 games for Bayern, Lukaku hasn’t got close to those numbers

[MWHIBBIES]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

Cant say I agree that he is better than Lewandowski. What makes you so certain?

I'd have Lewandowski over anyone as a striker right now. 41 goals in 29 league games is absolutely incredible, a new German league record.

[B.H.F.C]

Still can’t quite comprehend what I’ve witnessed tonight.

To see someone getting CPR, but then siting up within the space of minutes. Don’t think anyone saw it will ever forget.

On the football front, Belgium were superb.

[Col2]

That was incredibly distressing to watch, my heart sank when I saw they were giving him CPR ... can't believe how shaken I am even now, the pictures of his wife being comforted by some of the Danish players were absolutely heartbreaking. Brilliant to hear he is awake, lets hope for the best.

I found it really difficult to watch.

[HoboHarry]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.
Kane I'll give you but Lewandowski? Nah, not having that....

[HoboHarry]

Still can’t quite comprehend what I’ve witnessed tonight.

To see someone getting CPR, but then siting up within the space of minutes. Don’t think anyone saw it will ever forget.

On the football front, Belgium were superb.
My neighbour in 2015 was given CPR on his front lawn and was back on his feet before the ambulance arrived. He's had medical issues ever since but it was remarkable to see.....

[Since90+2]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

He's not better than Lewondowski.

Lewondowski's goalscoring record is comparable with any number 9 in history.

[Magpie]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

He’s a brilliant striker but definitely not better than Lewandowski or Kane for me.

[Magpie]

Still can’t quite comprehend what I’ve witnessed tonight.

To see someone getting CPR, but then siting up within the space of minutes. Don’t think anyone saw it will ever forget.

On the football front, Belgium were superb.

Honestly it was the toughest thing I’ve watched in a long time. I genuinely thought he was dead and had a tear in my eye. I’m so happy he’s in a better condition now.

[calumhibee1]

:agree:

He’s criminally underrated by our press because of the Man Utd time, when they weren’t playing to his strengths. Him and Mbappe are the best strikers in world football, certainly above Kane and Lewandowski and anyone else i can think of. He’s got everything.

Nowhere near above Lewandowski imo. He’s by a mile the best proper striker in the world.

[Sir David Gray]

Honestly it was the toughest thing I’ve watched in a long time. I genuinely thought he was dead and had a tear in my eye. I’m so happy he’s in a better condition now.

I had just arrived at my girlfriend's parents' house and her mum was in tears at the door asking us if we had heard the news from the football as it looked as if a player had died on the pitch, I couldn't really understand what had actually happened. Then I saw the TV and really thought he had passed away.

I'm glad we seem to have had a happy ending and well done to the medical people who appear to have saved his life.

[Aldo]

Honestly it was the toughest thing I’ve watched in a long time. I genuinely thought he was dead and had a tear in my eye. I’m so happy he’s in a better condition now.

I think he was Magpie but his quick responding and thinking team mate and the medical team saved him!


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[hibsbollah]

Cant say I agree that he is better than Lewandowski. What makes you so certain?

I'd have Lewandowski over anyone as a striker right now. 41 goals in 29 league games is absolutely incredible, a new German league record.

If I was building a superclub and had limitless cash, it’d be Lukaku and Mbappe up front. Lewandowski is obviously a goal machine as well, but he hasn’t got the speed and power of the other two, I think the relative weakness of the bundesliga over the last few seasons has contributed to his goal record.

[calumhibee1]

If I was building a superclub and had limitless cash, it’d be Lukaku and Mbappe up front. Lewandowski is obviously a goal machine as well, but he hasn’t got the speed and power of the other two, I think the relative weakness of the bundesliga over the last few seasons has contributed to his goal record.

Since he really rose to prominence at Dortmund he’s scored 72 goals in 90 games in Europe.

In that same period he’s scored 56 times for Poland in 90 appearances.

The guys numbers are exceptional over his whole career at every level he’s played at. They’re even better when you look from the season where he really kicked on - 2011/2012 - to now. For me, he’s up there with the greatest strikers of all time.

[JimBHibees]

I’m not surprised he said that . And of course the players would all have said if asked that they wanted to play on. I hope somebody counselled them properly though, they have all been through a major trauma. I would have expected my boss to say thanks for being willing to go on but best not. Several of those guys are going to hit an emotional wall over the next few days.
Main thing though is Eriksen is fine .

Totally agree even if Christian said to play a bit of executive detachment should have taken place for the welfare of the players imo. We keep talking about mental health yet this seemed to clearly go against that. Would like to think there was no UEFA pressure on playing on. Should have moved the second half to today imo and let the players process to some degree what just happened.

[JimBHibees]

Cant say I agree that he is better than Lewandowski. What makes you so certain?

I'd have Lewandowski over anyone as a striker right now. 41 goals in 29 league games is absolutely incredible, a new German league record.

Lewandowski tends not to turn up in international competitions. Appreciate Poland aren't the strongest however he has in general been a bit meh in competitions imo.

[hibsbollah]

Lewandowski tends not to turn up in international competitions. Appreciate Poland aren't the strongest however he has in general been a bit meh in competitions imo.

:agree: I didn’t intend it to be a ‘slag off Lewandowski’ post, because he’s obviously class, but wiki says he’s scored 2 in 11 in major tournaments, in euro 12 and euro 16. He scored against Greece in 2012, and early doors against Portugal in the round of 16 they go out on pens 1-1. Also, When you look at who he’s scored against there’s a lot of San marinos gibraltars and singapores in there and friendlies.

[Since90+2]

:agree: I didn’t intend it to be a ‘slag off Lewandowski’ post, because he’s obviously class, but wiki says he’s scored 2 in 11 in major tournaments, in euro 12 and euro 16. He scored against Greece in 2012, and early doors against Portugal in the round of 16 they go out on pens 1-1. Also, When you look at who he’s scored against there’s a lot of San marinos gibraltars and singapores in there and friendlies.

Lukaku is playing with one or the best international sides in the world, if Lewondowski had guys like Du Bruyne and Hazard behind him I suspect he'd have scored a lot more (his international record is still very good though).

The only comparable competition we can look at for both players is in European competitions. Lewondowski wins on that one.

[ekhibee]

Cant say I agree that he is better than Lewandowski. What makes you so certain?

I'd have Lewandowski over anyone as a striker right now. 41 goals in 29 league games is absolutely incredible, a new German league record.

This. Consistently one of the highest scorers in Europe too.

[MWHIBBIES]

:agree: I didn’t intend it to be a ‘slag off Lewandowski’ post, because he’s obviously class, but wiki says he’s scored 2 in 11 in major tournaments, in euro 12 and euro 16. He scored against Greece in 2012, and early doors against Portugal in the round of 16 they go out on pens 1-1. Also, When you look at who he’s scored against there’s a lot of San marinos gibraltars and singapores in there and friendlies.

Lukaku has more goals in friendlies than Lewandowski, 22 to 17. Lukaku does have a much better record in tournaments, but his much better team no doubt helps there.


Lewandowski is also the 3rd highest champions league goal scorer ever.

[Sylar]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason England play first today, thus giving them a full 24 hours extra to prepare for the game next week? Why aren’t the group C games played first?

[Glory Lurker]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason England play first today, thus giving them a full 24 hours extra to prepare for the game next week? Why aren’t the group C games played first?

The Russian linesman who's lined up for the final was explaining the reasoning for it the other day, but I can't remember what he said about it.

[jacomo]

If I was building a superclub and had limitless cash, it’d be Lukaku and Mbappe up front. Lewandowski is obviously a goal machine as well, but he hasn’t got the speed and power of the other two, I think the relative weakness of the bundesliga over the last few seasons has contributed to his goal record.


I’d have Kane over Lukaku tbh.

Both excellent strikers but Kane’s ability to create goals as well seals it for me. He just has to learn to stop rash challenges which bust his ankle!

[BS44]

Croatia 6/1 today against the English. Worth a small punt or should England win comfortably?

[MWHIBBIES]

Croatia 6/1 today against the English. Worth a small punt or should England win comfortably?

Wont be comfortable at all IMO. I think England are the better side, but Croatia have bags of experience and quality. Will be a close match.

[Smartie]

Croatia 6/1 today against the English. Worth a small punt or should England win comfortably?

When I was discussing our group with a mate before the tournament, he made the point that Croatia's recent form has been very patchy indeed - pretty sure it was something like them only having won 4 of their past 12 games, 2 of which were against Malta and Cyprus.

It's not really World Cup finalists form.

England are normally pretty solid at home, I'm expecting them to do pretty well tbh.

[Smartie]

24801

[SJNB Hibby]

Best result for us today I think is a big win for England. Goal difference could easily come into it both in the group, and across the groups for the 4 best 3rd places. Italy and Belgium have helped us out so far

[Billy Whizz]

Best result for us today I think is a big win for England. Goal difference could easily come into it both in the group, and across the groups for the 4 best 3rd places. Italy and Belgium have helped us out so far

I was just talking to my daughter about what we want today
Always want England to lose, but not so sure today

[660]

Croatia win would be better. Don’t want England resting players against the czechs but want Croatia to rest against us.

Plus it’s England so naturally want them humiliated.

[Billy Whizz]

England team
Pickford
Walker Stones Mings Trippier
Sterling Philips Rice Foden
Mount
Kane

Wonder why they are playing a right back, at left back

[Lendo]

Croatia to win, Kyle Walker to be red carded, 250/1

[MWHIBBIES]

Think Southgate was out last night.

2 best leftbacks in the premier league last season and he picks a right back over both of them?

No Chilwell or Sancho in the squad at all. 2 defensive midfielders? Sterling over Grealish?

Yikes. He might be a genius but he'll get slaughtered for this if it goes wrong.

[jacomo]

England team
Pickford
Walker Stones Mings Trippier
Sterling Philips Rice Foden
Mount
Kane

Wonder why they are playing a right back, at left back


It’s very weird. Suppose it explains why Southgate wanted so many right backs in his squad.

[Scorrie]

No Grealish? Strange one that

[Squealing pig]

Hopefully Croatia win today

[Billy Whizz]

How many are allowed in at Wembley today

[Sir David Gray]

How many are allowed in at Wembley today

22,500.

[Billy Whizz]

22,500.

Thanks
My friend heads up Weetabix, he’s at the game as they sponsor the ENT
He’s in nice and early, pitch looks amazing

[Hiber-nation]

Think Southgate was out last night.

2 best leftbacks in the premier league last season and he picks a right back over both of them?

No Chilwell or Sancho in the squad at all. 2 defensive midfielders? Sterling over Grealish?

Yikes. He might be a genius but he'll get slaughtered for this if it goes wrong.

Couldn't quite believe it. Shearer's face is a picture, he's desperate to say that its a weird line up but can't bring himself to!

[heretoday]

Surprised Grealish isn't starting and Sterling is.

[Jones28]

The great thing about the build up to England games is that they have to play all the losses and disappointment.

[Billy Whizz]

Wonder if Steve Clarke and his coaching staff, are at the game today

[BS44]

When I was discussing our group with a mate before the tournament, he made the point that Croatia's recent form has been very patchy indeed - pretty sure it was something like them only having won 4 of their past 12 games, 2 of which were against Malta and Cyprus.

It's not really World Cup finalists form.

England are normally pretty solid at home, I'm expecting them to do pretty well tbh.

Think I'll steer clear then! Your stats, and bookie pricing the Croats at 6s shows they're pretty confident in England not losing. Hopefully they are wrong today!

[JimBHibees]

Wonder if Steve Clarke and his coaching staff, are at the game today

You would have thought so.

[Pretty Boy]

Heartening to hear the booing of taking the knee quickly replaced by what sounded like more people applauding.

[JimBHibees]

England defence looks terrible for this level imo.

[B.H.F.C]

Terrible refereeing stopping the game there.

[Pretty Boy]

Unlucky from Foden. England are going to be so dangerous breaking against anyone in the group.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That deserved a goal

[Since90+2]

I honestly think the only way to beat England is to take the game to them. They have so much attacking threat if you sit back they are going to break you down.

That's why I can't see Scotland getting anything against them. We don't have the players to dictate the game and take it too them.

France and Belgium do have that ability and will likely beat England if they play them IMO.

[Lago]

Unlucky from Foden. England are going to be so dangerous breaking against anyone in the group.
Terrific player, what a talent.

[hibsbollah]

Caleta car putting a few millions on his price tag, great challenge on Sterling there.

[Dmas]

I honestly think the only way to beat England is to take the game to them. They have so much attacking threat if you sit back they are going to break you down.

That's why I can't see Scotland getting anything against them. We don't have the players to dictate the game and take it too them.

France and Belgium do have that ability and will likely beat England if they play them IMO.

I take great comfort in the winner of our group playing the runner up in France's group, it could well be England only play an extra game than us

[hibsbollah]

English getting the decisions

[Since90+2]

I take great comfort in the winner of our group playing the runner up in France's group, it could well be England only play an extra game than us

I'd fancy England to beat Germany, Portugal I think is 5050 and France would beat them.

[Mon Dieu4]

English getting the decisions

Yep, Croatia should have had 3 fouls that haven't been given in 18 mins

[Dmas]

I'd fancy England to beat Germany, Portugal I think is 5050 and France would beat them.

I don't think there good enough defensively to beat any of the 'bigger' nations

[B.H.F.C]

I honestly think the only way to beat England is to take the game to them. They have so much attacking threat if you sit back they are going to break you down.

That's why I can't see Scotland getting anything against them. We don't have the players to dictate the game and take it too them.

France and Belgium do have that ability and will likely beat England if they play them IMO.

We have the players to match England in the middle of the park, no problem IMO. The difference is the players they have to pass the ball to in the final third. If we open right up against them they’d kill us on the break IMO.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not sure if Croatia have just been really bad here or if England are actually playing very well. Bit of both maybe. Croatia just look so disorganised, loads of players pointing and shouting about where their team mates are supposed to be not matching where they actually are always suggests you are getting a bit of a chasing.

[HoboHarry]

Based on what I'm seeing I worry about playing that mob.....

[Since90+2]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

[660]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

Yeah it’s a corporate stadium like most in England tbh. Poor atmospheres in the EPL too.

[hibsbollah]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

The English playoffs always have great atmosphere.

[Since90+2]

The English playoffs always have great atmosphere.

You could be right with that one.

Overall, I dunno, it just doesn't seem to have that wow factor for me.

[hibsbollah]

How is that not a foul?! Jenas saying he dived?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Rush of blood rather than composure from Croatia there.

[Mon Dieu4]

Modric is still fantastic

[HibbyAndy]

How is that not a foul?! Jenas saying he dived?

Free kick all day long , Jenas talking oot his erse as per..

[Hibrandenburg]

English getting the decisions

Just said the same. Couple of clear fouls not given.

[MWHIBBIES]

England are struggling here. Midfield are missing, and they're just getting pushed wide every time. Kane not involved

[Dmas]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.


expectancy i always put it down too, best atmospheres down there is with the smaller teams chasing the dream, bigger teams fans are just turning up to watch another win, the reason why Celtic Park is a morgue for the majority of a season but turns into the 'best atmosphere in the world' on a champs league night

[hibsbollah]

expectancy i always put it down too, best atmospheres down there is with the smaller teams chasing the dream, bigger teams fans are just turning up to watch another win, the reason why Celtic Park is a morgue for the majority of a season but turns into the 'best atmosphere in the world' on a champs league night

:agree:

[DH1875]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

I've been a few times. Atmosphere has always been pretty good to be fair.

[hibsbollah]

England are struggling here. Midfield are missing, and they're just getting pushed wide every time. Kane not involved

Just said the same, I hadn’t realised how good that midfield is with Kovacic Modric and Perisic…on paper that’s one of the best in world football.

[Sylar]

I don’t see a lot to fear in all honesty. Both sides look beatable to me.

[Saint Hibee]

Foden is great, Walker is mince.

[Pagan Hibernia]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

Agree about the new Wembley. The old Wembley was an absolute toilet though

[MWHIBBIES]

I don’t see a lot to fear in all honesty. Both sides look beatable to me.

Croatia are a very clever, experienced team. I think they've looked totally in control after the first 10.

[calumhibee1]

It's obviously an impressive stadium but Wembley just seems completely souless to me. Not a patch on the old Wembley or the Millennium stadium for example.

Can't think of any games I've watched and thought the atmosphere has been brilliant at it.

I went to see Tottenham v Man City in April ‘18. Boring stadium, boring experience. EPL games are crap to go to.

[Pretty Boy]

It's because it's hot that England have been as flat as a pancake since the first 10 minutes according to Jenas.

[Lago]

The English playoffs always have great atmosphere.
The shadows on the pitch make TV viewing difficult

[Sylar]

Croatia are a very clever, experienced team. I think they've looked totally in control after the first 10.

I don’t disagree, but they also look pretty vulnerable at the back.

[Dmas]

boys in the studio must have watched a different game than me

[Mon Dieu4]

boys in the studio must have watched a different game than me

Trying my to convince themselves it's all rosy

[Lago]

I went to see Tottenham v Man City in April ‘18. Boring stadium, boring experience. EPL games are crap to go to.
To be honest a lot of football now a days is boring, there has been so much tinkering with the rules & taking the tackle out of football you end up with a boring sanitised version of the game, but then I'm a mature person looking back at football from yester year.

[plhibs]

Well after the first 15 mins. that was pretty boring, like a lot of games these days.

[Chorley Hibee]

boys in the studio must have watched a different game than me

That was my thought too.

Like watching paint dry so far.

[hibee-boys]

BBC commentary team trying their best to talk up, what has been, a bang average first half. Incredible that England have left Grealish sitting on the bench. I hope they do the same on Friday night.

[660]

Frank Lampard is a complete tit.

[JimBHibees]

I honestly think the only way to beat England is to take the game to them. They have so much attacking threat if you sit back they are going to break you down.

That's why I can't see Scotland getting anything against them. We don't have the players to dictate the game and take it too them.

France and Belgium do have that ability and will likely beat England if they play them IMO.

I think the opposite I think you sit in and break on them. Got to be defensively organised and strong but also offer a threat. Don't think you want to push up and leave space behind.

[hibee-boys]

Frank Lampard is a complete tit.

I’ve always thought he comes over quite well, by all accounts a decent bloke behind the scenes as well.

[Glory Lurker]

I've been surprised how poor the atmosphere is. It was better at the FA Cup Final.

[Since90+2]

I think the opposite I think you sit in and break on them. Got to be defensively organised and strong but also offer a threat. Don't think you want to push up and leave space behind.

I don't think Scotland have any other option than to play defensively. I just can't see us having enough of the ball to actually create much though.

[hibee-boys]

20,000 very quiiet fans in Wembley.

[hibsbollah]

This ref is dodgy. That’s never a booking, great tackle by Kovacic, that’s now two key Croatia players on a yellow. England getting everything

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm not sure if Croatia have just been really bad here or if England are actually playing very well. Bit of both maybe. Croatia just look so disorganised, loads of players pointing and shouting about where their team mates are supposed to be not matching where they actually are always suggests you are getting a bit of a chasing.

Croatia look like they're trying to pull the old Muhammed Ali trick and letting England punch themselves out.

[Hibrandenburg]

This ref is dodgy. That’s never a booking, great tackle by Kovacic, that’s now two key Croatia players on a yellow. England getting everything

66 all over again.

[SteveHFC]

We have nothing to fear in this group.

[Hibby70]

I think the commentators mentioned England more in the other games than this one. 🤣

[Aldo]

This ref is dodgy. That’s never a booking, great tackle by Kovacic, that’s now two key Croatia players on a yellow. England getting everything

England will get a dodgy pen today

That was decent

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[Pretty Boy]

That's a great goal tbf.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 England

[Lendo]

****sake

[Mon Dieu4]

Rank defending there

[jacomo]

That’s a lethal finish by England to be fair.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That was well worked.

[660]

Twats

[MWHIBBIES]

Well taken goal.

[Lago]

Well worked & well taken goal.

[Saint Hibee]

I have to admit I’d never heard of Kalvin Phillips before, but he’s pretty impressive.

[B.H.F.C]

Croatia have offered nothing going forward. Certainly not the side that reached the World Cup final three years ago.

[jacomo]

I have to admit I’d never heard of Kalvin Phillips before, but he’s pretty impressive.


Been great for Leeds.

[Hiber-nation]

Croatia look a team well past their best. No pace at all and not tracking runners.

[MWHIBBIES]

Challeta-Star?

Is Jermaine Jenas for real?

[MWHIBBIES]

Croatia look a team well past their best. No pace at all and not tracking runners.

Amazing what a goal can do. They have plenty to give yet.

[B.H.F.C]

Croatia look a team well past their best. No pace at all and not tracking runners.

Agree. They can’t get themselves up the park at all.

Modric can still play but he’s not got anyone to pass the to.

[Dmas]

Been great for Leeds.

Fantastic player, watch a fair amount of Leeds and over the last 2 years he’s gotten better and better, played really well today hasn’t half gotten away with a lot of nippy fouls though

[hibsbollah]

This ref has been a twat. Hopefully we don’t get him.

[Onion]

Croatia have offered nothing going forward. Certainly not the side that reached the World Cup final three years ago.

Showing England too much respect. They'll not play as passively against Scotland.

[madhatter]

Is watching England on mute anymore bearable?

Every one of their players is world class and shouldn't be booked for fouls. Hate the English media, they assume everyone watching is English and want to hear Foden talked about as if he is a Marvel character.

Don't know where the arrogance comes from as they routinely get dumped out of these competitions.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Sterling's finishing is dreadful.

[Glory Lurker]

When did Gordon Rae get the England number 2 job?

[H18 SFR]

Is watching England on mute anymore bearable?

Every one of their players is world class and shouldn't be booked for fouls. Hate the English media, they assume everyone watching is English and want to hear Foden talked about as if he is a Marvel character.

Don't know where the arrogance comes from as they routinely get dumped out of these competitions.

This kind of stuff gets rolled out as standard during the major comps. In reality, no one forces us to watch.

[AliboyFC]

I went to see Tottenham v Man City in April ‘18. Boring stadium, boring experience. EPL games are crap to go to.

Not newcastle or palace matches. Palace have there own mini ultras group that create a decent atmosphere.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Is watching England on mute anymore bearable?

Every one of their players is world class and shouldn't be booked for fouls. Hate the English media, they assume everyone watching is English and want to hear Foden talked about as if he is a Marvel character.

Don't know where the arrogance comes from as they routinely get dumped out of these competitions.

Makes it all the sweeter when they eventually crash out

[Since90+2]

Is the English commentary really anymore bias than Scottish?

[B.H.F.C]

No danger Croatia are scoring a goal here.

[Smartie]

Is watching England on mute anymore bearable?

Every one of their players is world class and shouldn't be booked for fouls. Hate the English media, they assume everyone watching is English and want to hear Foden talked about as if he is a Marvel character.

Don't know where the arrogance comes from as they routinely get dumped out of these competitions.

It’s the pish that makes it so funny when they get knocked out.

[H18 SFR]

Is the English commentary really anymore bias than Scottish?

Exactly. McFadden gives me the fear.

[Smartie]

Is the English commentary really anymore bias than Scottish?

I can only imagine what it must be like to be English in Scotland right now.

They only need to tolerate it every 20 odd years though, we get it pretty much every other year.

[madhatter]

This kind of stuff gets rolled out as standard during the major comps. In reality, no one forces us to watch.

Why wouldn't I watch the Euros, being a football fan as I am? Who will we get for England vs Scotland game? Will that be a case of not being forced to watch as well? Cool, guess I don't need to pay TV license then.

[A Hi-Bee]

Is watching England on mute anymore bearable?

Every one of their players is world class and shouldn't be booked for fouls. Hate the English media, they assume everyone watching is English and want to hear Foden talked about as if he is a Marvel character.

Don't know where the arrogance comes from as they routinely get dumped out of these competitions.

Same old, same old, **** the English
10 times bigger and 100 times more arrogant as I said **** the English

[MWHIBBIES]

Why wouldn't I watch the Euros, being a football fan as I am? Who will we get for England vs Scotland game? Will that be a case of not being forced to watch as well? Cool, guess I don't need to pay TV license then.


I think its Dixon, McCoist and Sam Matterface on ITV for it.

[marinello59]

This kind of stuff gets rolled out as standard during the major comps. In reality, no one forces us to watch.

:agree:

It’s not even accurate any more. They are no more arrogant about their team than the Scottish media are about ours.