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ian cruise
02-08-2017, 11:50 AM
Their schedules on track so it's all hearsay. Of course they would of had contingency plans with the SRU but that's not to say they will require it. There's been nothing from their heirarchy to say it won't be ready. They need the basics - turnstiles, seats and bogs.

Anyone else sense a Dnipro bet on the way?

Craig_HFC
02-08-2017, 12:01 PM
I know someone who's working on it at the moment and he says that it's 'months away' from being finished. Miles behind schedule.

Kato
02-08-2017, 12:04 PM
I know someone who's working on it at the moment and he says that it's 'months away' from being finished. Miles behind schedule.

Does he work beside Morganleith's pal.

Maybe it is Morganleith's pal !!

greenginger
02-08-2017, 12:41 PM
It's behind ok.

They have no seats for example.

Apart from your wee list there is also the small issue of a safety certificate being issued.

All to be done by four weeks on Saturday.


Safety certificate ? Are they gonna bother with one of them.

If so , they'd better see about getting a Building Warrant for the work first.

It really is a cluster-f of epic proportions.

Keith_M
02-08-2017, 12:50 PM
Apart from your wee list there is also the small issue of a safety certificate being issued.




Really big teams don't need Safety Certificates.

Craig_HFC
02-08-2017, 12:57 PM
Does he work beside Morganleith's pal.

Maybe it is Morganleith's pal !!

I've got no idea but I'm sure there is more than 2 people working on it.

Not that you'd be able to tell with the lack of progress, mind you.

660
02-08-2017, 01:35 PM
Dont they have to play half a season at Murrayfield if they play games there so that everyone plays them at the same stadium?

JeMeSouviens
02-08-2017, 01:35 PM
Anyone else sense a Dnipro bet on the way?

What, a sweep on the day Morganleith's name turns pink? :wink:

Keith_M
02-08-2017, 01:43 PM
Dont they have to play half a season at Murrayfield if they play games there so that everyone plays them at the same stadium?


A few people have asked that (including me) and nobody seems to know.


It might still be the rule, the rule might have changed, or the SPFL clubs might have exempted Hearts by prior agreement.. who knows.

GreenCastle
02-08-2017, 01:51 PM
A few people have asked that (including me) and nobody seems to know.


It might still be the rule, the rule might have changed, or the SPFL clubs might have exempted Hearts by prior agreement.. who knows.


Seems they have permission to play 2 games at the stadium - I can't see them playing others.

Scotland Rugby have games on 11th, 18th and 25th November for example.

They will either have the new bus shelter open for the Aberdeen game on 9th Sept or they will play elsewhere. The 2nd home game is 23rd Sept v Patrick then 21st October v St Johnstone.

Surely they couldn't make money out of a trip to Murrayfield - maybe that was the plan all along :rolleyes:

Geo_1875
02-08-2017, 01:54 PM
A few people have asked that (including me) and nobody seems to know.


It might still be the rule, the rule might have changed, or the SPFL clubs might have exempted Hearts by prior agreement.. who knows.

I'm sure Budge mentioned the SPFL being very accommodating in agreeing alternative arrangements. She didn't mention specifics but it doesn't take a leap to imagine them breaking their own rules to assist the Poppy Thieves.

Firestarter
02-08-2017, 02:00 PM
It's an utter disgrace they always seem to get away with **** like this. Filing for admin when the season finished springs to mind. Why didn't they start building mid-season like any normal club? Now they are getting games changed and maybe going to a rugby ground because their work is behind schedule for their brand spanking new shan stand with skyline views of Tynie High roof. It really annoys me at times.

Brightside
02-08-2017, 02:13 PM
I couldnt care less now tbh. They are just about to appoint Jon Daly as First Team Coach. They have to pay of Cathro (200k plus). and are being kept afloat by some fickle fans. They can play in public parks for all i care.

The_Todd
02-08-2017, 02:17 PM
I hope they do get permission to move to Murrayfield. It'll cost them a fortune.

Michael
02-08-2017, 02:26 PM
I can't recall any other club making such a fuss about building a new stand? They've made it so expensive that they've put themselves in a position that they can't afford to play with only 3 stands open. I think they should be made to play at Tynecastle regardless.

Aldo
02-08-2017, 03:23 PM
Their schedules on track so it's all hearsay. Of course they would of had contingency plans with the SRU but that's not to say they will require it. There's been nothing from their heirarchy to say it won't be ready. They need the basics - turnstiles, seats and bogs.

O dear here we go again!

The hierarchy as you put it don't want to upset the roasters hence the silence.

Yams I know saw very little change from the East Fife game.

It won't be ready simple. They need loads of things to be completed with the most important things being safety and fire certificates.

Mind you it is the Yams and when the council is involved them seemed to pretty much do what they want.

So the stand will not be finished and the majority of Yams I know are in agreement.

So in your wisdom of all things Yam. What's your take on the restricted views there will be in the new mega stand??

Pete
02-08-2017, 03:30 PM
So if some teams are getting to play Hearts at a neutral venue instead of Tynecastle, shouldn't we all be getting that privilege?

:hmmm:

Jack Hackett
02-08-2017, 03:36 PM
So if some teams are getting to play Hearts at a neutral venue instead of Tynecastle, shouldn't we all be getting that privilege?

:hmmm:

Nah mate... protected species only for special privileges . Butterflies, Bears and Yams

Ozyhibby
02-08-2017, 03:40 PM
So if some teams are getting to play Hearts at a neutral venue instead of Tynecastle, shouldn't we all be getting that privilege?

:hmmm:

No, that rule no longer exists and Hearts have permission to play games at Murrayfield if they need to.



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bill_reed
02-08-2017, 03:48 PM
No, that rule no longer exists and Hearts have permission to play games at Murrayfield if they need to.



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Not sure that true... when the league came out it was stated that Hearts would get to play two of there home games as away games but then added if they had to play more they would have to play at a neutral venue, "Murrayfield or Livingstone. if they had to play more 4 game away from there home venue then they were compelled to play 11 games in all so there was no advantage to any of the teams... not sure if that means playing 2 games away and two at a neutral venue or 4 games at a neutral venue...

3pm
02-08-2017, 03:53 PM
Will they get fined?

Pete
02-08-2017, 03:53 PM
No, that rule no longer exists and Hearts have permission to play games at Murrayfield if they need to.



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It remains to be seen how many games they will play there but I can imagine some clubs making a fuss over this if it disadvantages them. Quite rightly so.

#bearpit#feeltheheat

Kato
02-08-2017, 03:54 PM
Not sure that true... when the league came out it was stated that Hearts would get to play two of there home games as away games but then added if they had to play more they would have to play at a neutral venue, "Murrayfield or Livingstone. if they had to play more 4 game away from there home venue then they were compelled to play 11 games in all so there was no advantage to any of the teams... not sure if that means playing 2 games away and two at a neutral venue or 4 games at a neutral venue...

All speculative anyway as there is seemingly no delay at all and they will be back with 4 stands including the new Chippery on time for the Aberdeen fixture.

Billy Whizz
02-08-2017, 04:07 PM
Will they get fined?

For lying hopefully

Billy Whizz
02-08-2017, 04:11 PM
Aberdeen, Partick and St Johnstone over other teams if their matches are played at Murrayfield, verses teams who will have to go to the completed Tynecastle. An empty Murrayfield is a neutral venue, and hardly a place where the 3 teams will in a hostile environment
These 3 could be our rivals for Top 6, and they could have an advantage
I'm hoping LD is onto this

greenlex
02-08-2017, 04:47 PM
Aberdeen, Partick and St Johnstone over other teams if their matches are played at Murrayfield, verses teams who will have to go to the completed Tynecastle. An empty Murrayfield is a neutral venue, and hardly a place where the 3 teams will in a hostile environment
These 3 could be our rivals for Top 6, and they could have an advantage
I'm hoping LD is onto this
Pretty much this

Famous Fiver
02-08-2017, 05:12 PM
Excuse the pun but if they are allowed to play their home games at two different venues then it is not a level playing field, surely.

Just more evidence that Scottish football is not run properly. The league must surely oversee a competition where all clubs are treated the same.

Danderhall Hibs
02-08-2017, 05:19 PM
Excuse the pun but if they are allowed to play their home games at two different venues then it is not a level playing field, surely.

Just more evidence that Scottish football is not run properly. The league must surely oversee a competition where all clubs are treated the same.

The SPFL are the clubs and it's them that have apparently given them the permission to play at Murrayfield for a couple of games.

HIBERNIAN-0762
02-08-2017, 06:00 PM
The SPFL are the clubs and it's them that have apparently given them the permission to play at Murrayfield for a couple of games.

True to form they get what they want when they want.

lucky
03-08-2017, 04:34 PM
Kenny Miller just tweeted this

Hearts to play home games at Murrayfield until November after delays in the completion of the new main stand at Tynecastle.


Delighted as this is going to cost them big time

KeithTheHibby
03-08-2017, 04:37 PM
On the yams official site. Blaming the weather and the shipping. Also blowing their own trumpets about how far ahead they are with the project. Aye good one Budgie.

haagsehibby
03-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Delay confirmed on Hearts official site 😊

GloryGlory
03-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Kenny Miller just tweeted this

Hearts to play home games at Murrayfield until November after delays in the completion of the new main stand at Tynecastle.


Delighted as this is going to cost them big time

Possibly the first of several delays?

I can't imagine the residents around Murrayfield will be too chuffed at the thought of The Rangers fans coming to town.

Also don't know the dates of the autumn internationals, but could there be a problem if the Hertz games need to be moved for TV?

Sprouleflyer
03-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Kenny Miller just tweeted this

Hearts to play home games at Murrayfield until November after delays in the completion of the new main stand at Tynecastle.


Delighted as this is going to cost them big time

Kenny needs to speak with Morganleith, he has a mate that knows everything is still on schedule.

Pete
03-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Kenny Miller just tweeted this

Hearts to play home games at Murrayfield until November after delays in the completion of the new main stand at Tynecastle.


Delighted as this is going to cost them big time

Maybe those who were accusing certain others of "wishful thinking" and being "obsessed" will post a wee apology. Looks like they were indeed just passing on accurate information.

Can't see that happening though.

GloryGlory
03-08-2017, 04:39 PM
On the yams official site. Blaming the weather and the shipping. Also blowing their own trumpets about how far ahead they are with the project. Aye good one Budgie.

She must be taking lessons from the wifey that was in charge of the tram project - "on time and on budget, on time and on budget". :greengrin

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 04:40 PM
Kenny Miller just tweeted this

Hearts to play home games at Murrayfield until November after delays in the completion of the new main stand at Tynecastle.


Delighted as this is going to cost them big timeBut weren't we assured on this very thread that it was all going swimmingly and everything was on time?

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G B Young
03-08-2017, 04:40 PM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6101

Shambles.

I suspect this will only be the first 'delay'. They'll be lucky if it's ready by Christmas because if they've been hampered by the weather during the summer months it's only going to get worse as we hit autumn and winter.

Not to mention whether they can still afford to finish it given the managerial mess. Watch for Jamie Walker being sold before the end of the transfer window.

Maybe there was method in Cathro's madness after all, ensuring they had no home cup games to arrange until 2018...

Onceinawhile
03-08-2017, 04:41 PM
It's a nonsense that they are getting to flip yet another fixture and that 3 teams are getting to play at a neutral venue.

Salt N Sauzee
03-08-2017, 04:44 PM
Can't get enough of how truly tragic they are these days!

Sean1875
03-08-2017, 04:44 PM
November :faf: :faf: :faf:

Bishop Hibee
03-08-2017, 04:48 PM
Hibs.net greenginger right on the money. Will their be a "special atmosphere" at a three quarters empty stadium? Budge will let as many Huns buy tickets as she can to cover her losses.

Sprouleflyer
03-08-2017, 04:48 PM
If Hearts have a poor start to their league campaign not many "home' fans will turn up a Murrayfield. Wonder how many tickets they will offer the huns to try and get some cash back into their pockets, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000?

G B Young
03-08-2017, 04:49 PM
http://www.scottishrugby.org/tickets-events/2017-autumn-tests

Autumn rugby internationals will prevent them playing there in November if there's a further delay.

BonnieFitbaTeam
03-08-2017, 04:49 PM
Excuse the pun but if they are allowed to play their home games at two different venues then it is not a level playing field, surely.

Just more evidence that Scottish football is not run properly. The league must surely oversee a competition where all clubs are treated the same.



:faf: :faf: :faf:

New to Scottish football, are we?

:wink:

Pete
03-08-2017, 04:50 PM
"Unfortunately, however, there are some things we cannot control and as such, despite the mammoth effort that has gone into the construction project up until now, we are not going to make our targeted “open for business” date of 9th September 2017.

The wettest June/July in years, coupled with the late delivery of seating from the Far East, due to shipping issues, means we will have to invoke our contingency plan and play our first few home fixtures at BT Murrayfield."



So in other words it's the "freak weather" and the Chinese who are to blame.

Treadstone
03-08-2017, 04:51 PM
If Hearts have a poor start to their league campaign not many "home' fans will turn up a Murrayfield. Wonder how many tickets they will offer the huns to try and get some cash back into their pockets, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000?

Angry of Murrayfield will get a spread in the EEN.

JeMeSouviens
03-08-2017, 04:51 PM
Jeezo, their first round of fixtures is 8 away, 3 at Murrayfield. The new boss is going to be up against it. :wink:

Treadstone
03-08-2017, 04:51 PM
http://www.scottishrugby.org/tickets-events/2017-autumn-tests

Autumn rugby internationals will prevent them playing there in November if there's a further delay.

International break and away to jags.

dp00
03-08-2017, 04:52 PM
Why can't they play there home games in front of three stands like they did cup game ? And like we did ?


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JeMeSouviens
03-08-2017, 04:52 PM
If Hearts have a poor start to their league campaign not many "home' fans will turn up a Murrayfield. Wonder how many tickets they will offer the huns to try and get some cash back into their pockets, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000?

Hopefully by that time the Huns will be struggling to sell 400.

Jack Hackett
03-08-2017, 04:52 PM
What a shambles of an outfit. Pure Amateur Hour

Aldo
03-08-2017, 04:52 PM
This is going to run on and on.

And where is Morgan Leith and his 'things will be fine and completed on time' yam tinted specks I think!


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Lancs Harp
03-08-2017, 04:53 PM
http://www.scottishrugby.org/tickets-events/2017-autumn-tests

Autumn rugby internationals will prevent them playing there in November if there's a further delay.

Surely they can play at Ainslie Park with the rest of Edinburghs little clubs?*

*With respect to Edinburgh City and Spartans.

3pm
03-08-2017, 04:53 PM
Fine then.

Sean1875
03-08-2017, 04:55 PM
Fine then.

You going in the huff? :greengrin

Radium
03-08-2017, 04:57 PM
Bit of a pedantic question, does the dimensions of the pitch that they use at Murrayfield have to be the same as the pitch at Tynecastle?


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3pm
03-08-2017, 05:04 PM
You going in the huff? :greengrin

'Them' even!

Heisenberg
03-08-2017, 05:05 PM
Do they not need to play a full round of fixtures at Murrayfield?

mjh
03-08-2017, 05:06 PM
If project is delayed even further (quite likely)and with Murrayfield being required for autumn internationals, does anybody know of another stadium in edinburgh that could host their subsequent home matches ??

Heisenberg
03-08-2017, 05:06 PM
Why can't they play there home games in front of three stands like they did cup game ? And like we did ?


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Probably due to the number of STs I'd imagine.

G B Young
03-08-2017, 05:12 PM
International break and away to jags.

What international break? The final World Cup qualifiers are in October and Hearts have two home games scheduled on the same weekends as the Scotland rugby games in November.

Onceinawhile
03-08-2017, 05:12 PM
Do they not need to play a full round of fixtures at Murrayfield?

Nope.

I think it's wrong from a competitive perspective, but that's the rules.

KWJ
03-08-2017, 05:12 PM
Partick agreed to flip their tie to Firhill from Tynie.

I guess that means Aberdeen, huns and St J told them to get stuffed.

BenjiOscar
03-08-2017, 05:12 PM
Surely they have to restrict the number of tickets they can sell for Murrayfield. Would be a nonsense if they were able to use the full capacity of Murrayfield for the Sevco game with the potential for them selling loads of extra tickets.

Maybe this was the plan though, to rake in more cash to pay for the chip stalls knowing full well their build schedule wouldn't be met from the outset and then blaming it on the weather. I'd put nothing past those charity robbing poppy thieves.

greenginger
03-08-2017, 05:21 PM
Surely they have to restrict the number of tickets they can sell for Murrayfield. Would be a nonsense if they were able to use the full capacity of Murrayfield for the Sevco game with the potential for them selling loads of extra tickets.

Maybe this was the plan though, to rake in more cash to pay for the chip stalls knowing full well their build schedule wouldn't be met from the outset and then blaming it on the weather. I'd put nothing past those charity robbing poppy thieves.


The Murrayfield residents association might have something to say about 20,000 Huns descending on their H-band rated estates.

I'm_cabbaged
03-08-2017, 05:22 PM
Seen a picture that they've got "5 1" in their shan windows. WTF is that all about?

poolman
03-08-2017, 05:22 PM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6101

Shambles.

I suspect this will only be the first 'delay'. They'll be lucky if it's ready by Christmas because if they've been hampered by the weather during the summer months it's only going to get worse as we hit autumn and winter.

Not to mention whether they can still afford to finish it given the managerial mess. Watch for Jamie Walker being sold before the end of the transfer window.

Maybe there was method in Cathro's madness after all, ensuring they had no home cup games to arrange until 2018...


Work is continuing at "quite a pace" 🤔

BSEJVT
03-08-2017, 05:23 PM
This early in proceedings its going to be 2 months late

Let thank sink in, 2 whole months and that's for a shambolic facility with most of the internal fit outs still to do before it will begin to raise any new income for them

I hope Murrayfield is costing them plenty

Next thing will be open all hours payments for the builders on site to try and meet the end of October deadline as if they miss that it will be begging bowl time for ER

That would cost them even more as their brain dead support would still take great delight in trashing it

They are desperate and before you know it Jamie Walker will be getting punted for a bargain basement price as they will need to accept anything.

His being forced out the squad is a pre-cursor to that and makes that sale far easier to explain

They don't have anyone else worth buying

Their chickens are coming home to roost big time.

As McDonalds used to say - I'm lovin it

SuperAllyMcleod
03-08-2017, 05:25 PM
So, a 7 week delay - surely they haven't just noticed this, they must have known for ages.

Elephant Stone
03-08-2017, 05:25 PM
2 months' delay because of rain and the Chinese, at least she's honest.

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 05:28 PM
So, a 7 week delay - surely they haven't just noticed this, they must have known for ages.To be fair on Mrs Budge she looks in here regularly and probably believed everything was tickety boo per the update on this very thread.

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HibbiesandtheBaddies
03-08-2017, 05:29 PM
Seen a picture that they've got "5 1" in their shan windows. WTF is that all about?

5-1 reminds them that they killed their club through financial cheating and skullduggery. It's probably there as a reminder not to cheat again.

Probably...

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 05:29 PM
Oh dear,the residents of Corstorphine/Murrayfield await the invasion of the zombies.

A lunchtime kick off would be the best for this fixture.
I will give the White Lady and the Harp(Toby) a miss that day.

Libby Hibby
03-08-2017, 05:33 PM
I said it earlier in the thread.

I think they'll get a smart stand once it's complete but it's the fact that every other club in the league are affected. How is this allowed to happen?

Make them play in front of 3 stands and revert back to a normal fixture list. Simple.

GGTTH 💚

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 05:34 PM
2 months' delay because of rain and the Chinese, at least she's honest.Aye, because rain and unseasonal weather is such an unusual phenomenon in Scotland.

The givers will swallow this, costs will rise and the FOH cash will find another call being made on it as the shares disappear over the latest horizon.

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Hibs07p
03-08-2017, 05:37 PM
I'm sure their contingincy allowed for 3 games only to be played at Murrayfield, when they would then have to make a further request to the SPFL for additional games to be played away from tiny Tynie if it wasn't ready. It feels like they've manipulated the fixtures by getting Partick to flip their fixture, so as to allow the huns to be one of the "contracted" games at Murrayfield, therefore giving them the potential to make it a money spinning fixture. Have Aberdeen, St J, and the Huns been offered the chance to flip the fixture? Have Partick been given a financial incentive to flip their fixture if they maybe said no? Have the Huns played hardball and agreed not to flip the fixture, conditional on Jamie Walker being a Hun by the end of the transfer window. Too many ifs and buts for my liking, when the governing body should have ensured from the outset when the fixture list should have been clear and transparent when first published. Again it looks like the governance of our game is slap dash and made up as we go along.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

bill_reed
03-08-2017, 05:38 PM
If project is delayed even further (quite likely)and with Murrayfield being required for autumn internationals, does anybody know of another stadium in edinburgh that could host their subsequent home matches ??


been said that Hearts have been in talks with Murrayfield about three games there... there was talk of playing at Livingstone.... seems they have agreed to play three games at Murrayfield now, including the Rangers game... Patrick have agreed to swap there game so it will be another away game for them. if the play 4 games at Murrayfeild then they will have to play another 7 games there... so it will mean they might play at tynie with the new stand closed to stop having to play 7 more games at Murrayfield...

Jack Hackett
03-08-2017, 05:48 PM
been said that Hearts have been in talks with Murrayfield about three games there... there was talk of playing at Livingstone.... seems they have agreed to play three games at Murrayfield now, including the Rangers game... Patrick have agreed to swap there game so it will be another away game for them. if the play 4 games at Murrayfeild then they will have to play another 7 games there... so it will mean they might play at tynie with the new stand closed to stop having to play 7 more games at Murrayfield...

Can't see the ST holders being happy with that somehow

LaMotta
03-08-2017, 05:50 PM
shameful "big team" ploy to try to get the biggest crowd in Edinburgh this season.

Libby Hibby
03-08-2017, 05:58 PM
66/1 to go down...lump on them

Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 06:00 PM
66/1 to go down...lump on them


No chance.

bill_reed
03-08-2017, 06:03 PM
Ann Budge has announced that at least 3 games will be played at Murrayfield and Patrick have swapped there game to an away fixture... so the will have 5 away games to start the season...

KeithTheHibby
03-08-2017, 06:03 PM
They really should be fined for this. They've made a mockery of fixtures for a few clubs already plus they seem to be able to play home games during building works when it suits them.
Now it's delayed another 2 months? More fixture chaos?!
Shambles.

lapsedhibee
03-08-2017, 06:05 PM
It feels like they've manipulated the fixtures by getting Partick to flip their fixture, so as to allow the huns to be one of the "contracted" games at Murrayfield, therefore giving them the potential to make it a money spinning fixture.
Aye, and that's worked well for them in the past :faf:

Libby Hibby
03-08-2017, 06:05 PM
No chance.

On current form, who is worse?

Their squad weaker than last season, early form this season is no better than the end of last. No manager at present, little time left for a new manager (if appointed) to recruit in this window.

It's worth a daft 10er for interest sake alone.

Treadstone
03-08-2017, 06:05 PM
What international break? The final World Cup qualifiers are in October and Hearts have two home games scheduled on the same weekends as the Scotland rugby games in November.

Play offs

cabbageandribs1875
03-08-2017, 06:07 PM
the budge and LeVain have played a blinder and the authorities are too cowardly to deny them, the harry wraggs and sevco will be delighted with the budge brown envelopes

Ozyhibby
03-08-2017, 06:08 PM
So, a 7 week delay - surely they haven't just noticed this, they must have known for ages.

Of course they have but they had season tickets to sell. Basically they were conning their own fans.


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Thecat23
03-08-2017, 06:11 PM
Of course they have but they had season tickets to sell. Basically they were conning their own fans.


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Bang on, Ann Budge was on the Tv last week or week before telling everyone how everything is rosy and on time. Lies, lies, and more lies. They really are the most idiotic fans on this planet.

Blocks Biloxi
03-08-2017, 06:20 PM
"While this is disappointing, the cooperation of the management and staff at the SRU means we can accommodate all, indeed even more, of our supporters in fine style at the national rugby stadium," Budge added.

:rolleyes:

Hibs07p
03-08-2017, 06:21 PM
Aye, and that's worked well for them in the past :faf:

Hopefully they both have poor starts and the attendance is similar to the 8000 that was Ibrox in the 70s / 80s, but to me, the fixture list has been manipulated to give hertz that potential financial advantage.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

Col2
03-08-2017, 06:22 PM
Can someone explain why they can't use Tynecastle with 3 stands?

Is it purely because of a loss of revenue? If so then tough luck. They can compensate the season ticket holders with some more share certificates...oh wait...

lapsedhibee
03-08-2017, 06:33 PM
Hopefully they both have poor starts and the attendance is similar to the 8000 that was Ibrox in the 70s / 80s, but to me, the fixture list has been manipulated to give hertz that potential financial advantage.

Agree they're chancers and like you, hope it backfires.

Danderhall Hibs
03-08-2017, 06:35 PM
Can someone explain why they can't use Tynecastle with 3 stands?

Is it purely because of a loss of revenue? If so then tough luck. They can compensate the season ticket holders with some more share certificates...oh wait...

Have they not sold more STs than they have seats?

lapsedhibee
03-08-2017, 06:38 PM
Can someone explain why they can't use Tynecastle with 3 stands?



Have they not sold more STs than they have seats?

Can it ever be right to answer a rhetorical question with a rhetorical question? :dunno:

I'm_cabbaged
03-08-2017, 06:41 PM
Aye, and that's worked well for them in the past :faf:

If you think that they won't get a bumper crowd for that you're kidding yourself on. If the Huns get 20,000 tickets they'll not be far off selling them

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 06:41 PM
Can it ever be right to answer a rhetorical question with a rhetorical question? :dunno:

In this case it's entirely appropriate, after all we were talking about a club that were bragging about being "self sufficient" a fortnight before putting themselves into administration and publishing their very own creditors list as long as an andrex loo roll.

MrSmith
03-08-2017, 06:42 PM
Agree they're chancers and like you, hope it backfires.

There will be a health and safety issue however, the safety aspect and risk to supporters health has been resident there for more than a decade.

Since90+2
03-08-2017, 06:46 PM
66/1 to go down...lump on them

That's not a bad price. I don't think they will go down but at 66/ it's worth a punt. Is that to finish last or does it include relegated via the playoffs?

Keith_M
03-08-2017, 06:48 PM
In shock news that nobody on here was expecting, Hearts new Stand will NOT be ready in time.


HERE (http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-stage-games-at-murrayfield-due-to-main-stand-delay-1-4521745)

GloryGlory
03-08-2017, 06:48 PM
Aye, because rain and unseasonal weather is such an unusual phenomenon in Scotland.

The givers will swallow this, costs will rise and the FOH cash will find another call being made on it as the shares disappear over the latest horizon.

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Didn't they have any contingencies in their planning?

SirDavidsNapper
03-08-2017, 06:51 PM
Our new stand will be ready for the Aberdeen game, honest.........https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/810bacbafc0a38acbf839968fb5cb34d.jpg

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Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Hearts' new stadium capacity (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?322200-Hearts-new-stadium-capacity)

Leith Green
03-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Laughing stock of a football club. Shameless , brass necked , and firmly delusional.

Jack Hackett
03-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Didn't they have any contingencies in their planning?

Aye... Gullible fans

Aldo
03-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Bang on, Ann Budge was on the Tv last week or week before telling everyone how everything is rosy and on time. Lies, lies, and more lies. They really are the most idiotic fans on this planet.

Gullible is the word I would use along with totally stupid. Head in the sand brigade. Budge and co have known exactly what they were doing yet didn't have the baws to stand up and admit it was being delayed!

Everyone or things fault that it has not gone to plan yet if they had just knocked the stand. Down in Feb it would have been ready by now.

I wonder when they will tell those in the section of stand by the Police Control Room that they will not see the goal?


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SirDavidsNapper
03-08-2017, 06:53 PM
If you think that they won't get a bumper crowd for that you're kidding yourself on. If the Huns get 20,000 tickets they'll not be far off selling them

Might just cover the cost of renting Murrayfeild

blackpoolhibs
03-08-2017, 06:53 PM
No chance. It'll be ready- I don't know who your source is but as I've said previously it's on track. I know I'll get called a yam but it's actually ahead of schedule for their game v the sheep. The steel will be put in in a week and it will be ready. As I said before my mates working on it and has no reason to lie


:faf::faf::faf:

Hibbycol
03-08-2017, 06:54 PM
Should be well at home hoof ball hertz

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Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 06:54 PM
On current form, who is worse?

Their squad weaker than last season, early form this season is no better than the end of last. No manager at present, little time left for a new manager (if appointed) to recruit in this window.

It's worth a daft 10er for interest sake alone.


Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 06:54 PM
Didn't they have any contingencies in their planning?

Self answering question?:greengrin

They don't seem to have done many of the things that are required at the outset and it looks like they have been caught out here because they didn't feel the need to contingency plan because they are the "famous" etc............. or they did contingency plan and they ****ed it up because they are the "famous"...........

Arrogance isn't always enough.

Libby Hibby
03-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Hey, Morganleith...Where are you?

Thecat23
03-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Gullible is the word I would use along with totally stupid. Head in the sand brigade. Budge and co have known exactly what they were doing yet didn't have the baws to stand up and admit it was being delayed!

Everyone or things fault that it has not gone to plan yet if they had just knocked the stand. Down in Feb it would have been ready by now.

I wonder when they will tell those in the section of stand by the Police Control Room that they will not see the goal?


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Let's be honest, any restricted view of watching Hearts will be a blessing to them. Stop them from seeing their team get roasted.

Aldo
03-08-2017, 06:56 PM
Let's be honest, any restricted view of watching Hearts will be a blessing to them. Stop them from seeing their team get roasted.

[emoji23][emoji23] didn't think of that one!!


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Colr
03-08-2017, 06:57 PM
In shock news that nobody on here was expecting, Hearts new Stand will NOT be ready in time.


HERE (http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-stage-games-at-murrayfield-due-to-main-stand-delay-1-4521745)

Very appropriate given their style of play.

Nakedmanoncrack
03-08-2017, 06:57 PM
Be interesting to see what sort of ticket allocation they give Sevco.

SirDavidsNapper
03-08-2017, 06:58 PM
It's not just missing it by a week or two..It's now planned to be completed in November! 🤣

Onion
03-08-2017, 07:00 PM
Should be forced to play before 3 stands, plain and simple.

Since90+2
03-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Can't wait to hear MorganLeith's "mates" update on this now :faf:

wpj
03-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Should be forced to play before 3 stands, plain and simple.

Agreed, they knew this months ago

Eyrie
03-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Hey, Morganleith...Where are you?

Murrayfield? :dunno:

Treadstone
03-08-2017, 07:03 PM
Can't wait to hear MorganLeith's "mates" update on this now :faf:

No reason to lie!

Libby Hibby
03-08-2017, 07:04 PM
Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

😂

Fife-Hibee
03-08-2017, 07:05 PM
They certainly shouldn't be allowed to sell more tickets than they're s....hole of a stadium holds !

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Can't wait to hear MorganLeith's "mates" update on this now :faf:

Apparently the project was delayed by all those Easter Road seagulls Hibs sent over that were milling about in the background whilst the BT guys were waiting for Cathro to appear after the Dunfermline shambles. Guano is highly corrosive but doesn't show on maroon shirts. Take weeks to get rid of them.

Keith_M
03-08-2017, 07:10 PM
A Brass Neck doesn't show above a Maroon Jersey.

Greencore
03-08-2017, 07:12 PM
😂😂😂😂😂

Fife-Hibee
03-08-2017, 07:13 PM
A Brass Neck doesn't show above a Maroon Jersey.

Haha

IGRIGI
03-08-2017, 07:13 PM
Given their performance in the recent penalty shoot-out vs Dunfermline they'll be hoping to keep the rugby posts in place.

Nameless
03-08-2017, 07:15 PM
According to the report on the Sky Sports app, they are installing big screens too - I've never seen that mentioned before.

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Not In The Know
03-08-2017, 07:15 PM
Let's be honest, any restricted view of watching Hearts will be a blessing to them. Stop them from seeing their team get roasted.

Restricted view seats in the new stand are on average £5 more expensive than non-restricted views.

Saturday Boy
03-08-2017, 07:16 PM
On their current form, they've probably booked the ice rink rather than the rugby ground. I remember years ago they announced that they were playing Hamburg during a training trip to Germany. Turns out it was Homburg. Nice hats though 😉

Leith Green
03-08-2017, 07:16 PM
A Brass Neck doesn't show above a Maroon Jersey.

👍

Not In The Know
03-08-2017, 07:17 PM
According to the report on the Sky Sports app, they are installing big screens too - I've never seen that mentioned before.

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Yet again they rip the pee out of their own fans, selling them season tickets for a stand everyone knew would only be open for half a season.

SirDavidsNapper
03-08-2017, 07:18 PM
Only big clubs get outnumbered at home by other clubs. Can see both the Sheep and Sevco outnumbering them unless they limit tickets.

Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 07:18 PM
Is it really a big deal to us? Doesn't affect us in any way, in fact it hinders them more than anybody. They are the ones with the extra bills to pay for with renting the place, plus their own new stand over is budget.

The Falcon
03-08-2017, 07:20 PM
It's not just missing it by a week or two..It's now planned to be completed in November! 🤣

Where there not people trying to discredit the likes of Greeginger by saying that everything was going to plan with Yams adding that this was all some Hobo misinformation assault?

They are insufferable.

Wee Effen Bee
03-08-2017, 07:21 PM
This just can't be true - has to be fake news!
Can't remember who the poster was but s/he was adamant the stand was miles behind schedule. Some had a wee go at the poster but it appears they were spot on. Is this a ploy so they can sell more tickets against the better-supported teams and generate more funds?😁
Just 'cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not at it!💷💷💷

HoboHarry
03-08-2017, 07:23 PM
A Brass Neck doesn't show above a Maroon Jersey.
None of their womenfolk have any necks at all as far as I can recall.......

Glory Lurker
03-08-2017, 07:23 PM
Some pretty funny chat over yonder, speculating on just how big a yam support they'll be able to accommodate at the Murrayfield games. They seem to be overlooking that they will have had to actually play games this season before those matches. I'm sure they'll be swarming to Murrayfield in their tens of thousands when they've only clocked up about eight points so far.

Weststandwanab
03-08-2017, 07:24 PM
Be interesting to see what sort of ticket allocation they give Sevco.

When you say give do you mean hope to sell ?

Wee Effen Bee
03-08-2017, 07:24 PM
Where there not people trying to discredit the likes of Greeginger by saying that everything was going to plan with Yams adding that this was all some Hobo misinformation assault?

They are insufferable.

You can type much quicker than I can Falcon.👍

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 07:25 PM
A Brass Neck doesn't show above a Maroon Jersey.


Funniest post this week!

Need to remember that one when in the pub wae ma jambo"pals"

:faf:

weecounty hibby
03-08-2017, 07:27 PM
They certainly shouldn't be allowed to sell more tickets than they're s....hole of a stadium holds !

That's actually a very good point. They have made an absolute James Hunt of this project and they should not be allowed to make any additional revenue out of it. They have once again lied to their fannies to get more desperately needed cash in by selling more tickets than they actually have seats for. Every other club has had to play in reduced capacity stadiums or rent other stadiums like celtic and ICT for a season or large parts of a season. They are a total **** up of a club and still the media dont take them to task for it. Thank god that I was brought up to be a Hibby

Since90+2
03-08-2017, 07:29 PM
If Sevco fans get wind of the fact Hearts want them to buy 25k odd tickets and fund part of their new stand they will probably do the opposite and boycott it.

The Falcon
03-08-2017, 07:32 PM
You're a much quicker type than I am Falcon.👍


:greengrin

ian cruise
03-08-2017, 07:33 PM
If Sevco fans get wind of the fact Hearts want them to buy 25k odd tickets and fund part of their new stand they will probably do the opposite and boycott it.

No way Hearts are speaking out against the SPFL judgement against Rangers now they need that blue pound.

Col2
03-08-2017, 07:34 PM
Ok ladies and gentleman. This was the news I got today from a very good source at Tynie. I dont usually get any good info but this is gem.

Yams are actively looking at moving Aberdeen game as a minimum and have told the sheep. They are looking at feasibility of using Murrayfield for this and 1-2 other games as stand is way behind schedule. Part of this is contingency but it won't be ready for sheep game. They have advised SPFL.

Barry Anderson will have an exclusive in this (all is Barry style) in the next week or so.

.

ian cruise
03-08-2017, 07:35 PM
.

Straight to the ITK box for you my friend. Enjoy the view from up there, just don't forget us poor folk down here next time you get some info.

green day
03-08-2017, 07:35 PM
Can't wait to hear MorganLeith's "mates" update on this now :faf:

The only Morgan I know was a guy at my old work - he was a rabid horrible hibs hating jambo........it wouldnt surprise me if he had registered here.

Since90+2
03-08-2017, 07:36 PM
No way Hearts are speaking out against the SPFL judgement against Rangers now they need that blue pound.

They really are a spineless bunch.

Sammy7nil
03-08-2017, 07:38 PM
Can you get chips at Murrayfield :wink:

macca70
03-08-2017, 07:40 PM
Stating the obvious but gate receipts at Tynie is all money going into Hearts, whereas I'm guessing the gate receipts at Murrayfield will contribute towards their Rental costs.

I hope they have kept aside some season ticket money as I would guess the vast majority of attendance is season tickets, if they have 14k season ticket holders.

darwenhibby
03-08-2017, 07:41 PM
Easier for 400 000 fans to get tickets
Win win situation for them I think

G B Young
03-08-2017, 07:43 PM
Play offs

Are those not played over the space of a few days? In which case Hearts certainly won't go the whole of November without a home fixture. And even if Scotland were involved in the play-offs (which they won't be), would it necessarily mean a full shutdown of the Premiership fixture card?

Anyway, aside from that, what seems wrong to me is that Ann Budge is putting a gloss on this by saying Hearts will be able to accommodate 'even more' of their fans by decamping to Murrayfield. While it's hard to imagine Hearts home support will increase (and will hopefully plummet if they get off to a dire start to the season), it seems she's opening up the possibility of just letting as many Rangers fans as possible into the stadium in order to offset the cost of hiring the national rugby stadium. Should this actually be allowed? ie if your home ground holds less than 20k, should you be able to make additional monies off the back of a move to a bigger stadium you don't own?

Crazyhorse
03-08-2017, 07:43 PM
Tried to defunct us 90-91 ,cheated by inflated wages they couldn't pay ,not paying their debts, kiddy fiddling players and ex manager who the board defended, I could go on ! Vermin in my eyes and probably a few thousand others .

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Looking at the list you provided I'm happy to agree that on a case by case basis those responsible for those actions are cheating/criminal ****bags.
To argue on that basis that a whole group - 'hearts supporters' - are vermin is irrational and I also think it's immoral to describe other humans using that term.

Hibbycol
03-08-2017, 07:45 PM
I think he was just giving a reason why referring to other human beings as vermin is not a good idea because of its historical significance rather than calling you a fascist. I never took it that way anyway.Ok fair do's. So what should I call that lot because I am struggling here : answers on an epostcard please .

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Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 07:48 PM
Ok fair do's. So what should I call that lot because I am struggling here : answers on an epostcard please .

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Poppy thieves works for me. It was the club that done it so no need to personalise it to individual fans, unless they want to defend it of course:aok:

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 07:48 PM
I can just picture the headlines if the zombies get 20k tickets or more.

"Murrayfield under siege"
"Edinburgh Zoo fears for safety of its residents"
Letters will be written by local residents to cooncillors and the Hootsmon on this expected invasion.
It's an outrage, they will cry.

Seriously ,there will be a call to make this fixture a TV game at 12.15 to minimise numbers coming from the west and elsewhere and also get them out of Dodge asap.

Not In The Know
03-08-2017, 07:50 PM
19078

macca70
03-08-2017, 07:52 PM
I can just picture the headlines if the zombies get 20k tickets or more.

"Murrayfield under siege"
"Edinburgh Zoo fears for safety of its residents"
Letters will be written by local residents to cooncillors and the Hootsmon on this expected invasion.
It's an outrage, they will cry.

Seriously ,there will be a call to make this fixture a TV game at 12-15 to minimise numbers coming from the west and also get them out of Dodge asap.

I really hope it is moved for tv, keep gate receipts to a minimum. I would think it will be moved, I'm sure they would be keen to show a footy game live from Murrayfield.

Danderhall Hibs
03-08-2017, 07:53 PM
Can it ever be right to answer a rhetorical question with a rhetorical question? :dunno:

I'm not answering that.

lapsedhibee
03-08-2017, 07:55 PM
If you think that they won't get a bumper crowd for that you're kidding yourself on. If the Huns get 20,000 tickets they'll not be far off selling them

I was meaning that the last time yams were rubbing their hands at getting the chance to play a "money-spinning" match it ended in tears for them. Big, famous, tears. :faf:

Nameless
03-08-2017, 07:59 PM
The SRU will be paid using the same method that Hearts used when they "rented" Ricarton. Unless they get the cash up front, they are getting nowt.

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Sergey
03-08-2017, 08:04 PM
The SRU have a number of home fixtures scheduled for November so Murrayfield won't be available to Los Yambolinos even if they wanted to extend the hire for a few months.

They could be in a spot of bother if there are further delays.

Hibby70
03-08-2017, 08:05 PM
It's already a 12'30 kick off on Sky Sports??? Queen Ann obviously doesn't have a diary.

LithgaeHibby
03-08-2017, 08:06 PM
Would like to see Murrayfield bleed them dry with rental charges but probably won't happen due to cardigan-wearing old Watsonian types being on a similar wavelength to the puddle drinkers.

Mantis Toboggan
03-08-2017, 08:10 PM
There surely has to be a limit on ticket sales. Completely unfair if they can make extra money by selling 20k to sevconians

tamig
03-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Should be forced to play before 3 stands, plain and simple.

Exactly. Like almost every other club who have developed a new stand. Scandalous.

jacomo
03-08-2017, 08:12 PM
This is going to run on and on.

And where is Morgan Leith and his 'things will be fine and completed on time' yam tinted specks I think!


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He's trying to work out which O'Neill is taking over as Yam boss - Michael or Martin.

:hilarious

Hibbycol
03-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Will they have to pay into murrayfield or use their season tickets ?

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tamig
03-08-2017, 08:14 PM
Is it really a big deal to us? Doesn't affect us in any way, in fact it hinders them more than anybody. They are the ones with the extra bills to pay for with renting the place, plus their own new stand over is budget.

They should be made to suffer in the pocket by playing at their own ground in front of reduced capacities. Doesn't affect us at all but they should not be allowed to benefit financially from their own mismanagement.

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 08:15 PM
The SRU have a number of home fixtures scheduled for November so Murrayfield won't be available to Los Yambolinos even if they wanted to extend the hire for a few months.

They could be in a spot of bother if there are further delays.

If that is the case, i trust Leeann will not accommodate them.
They should have arranged something with Livingston long ago.
The must have known this could happen.
Livvy would have welcomed the revenue.

Or held back on season tickets sales for the new stand and just played in front of the other 3
We did just that, with none of all this fuss.
But no, they still went ahead and sold the STs "knowing" the stand build could have had problems
The "delay" was a nap given the starting date.
Blaming rain and sea-going freighters is a lot of nonsense.

No idea what it will cost them to hire Murrayfield.
But i guess they have budgeted for that....
Haven't they!!?
Game against Govan FC will help those costs.
Its all a farce and embarrassing for them.

How Miss 6% got the club into this mess must be the question hertz fans need to ask.

On the plus side,Cathro has gone, so no issue with the goal posts at Murrayfield!!

jacomo
03-08-2017, 08:15 PM
Very appropriate given their style of play.


Oh. The players were practising rugby penalties v Dunfy last weekend.

tamig
03-08-2017, 08:16 PM
Where there not people trying to discredit the likes of Greeginger by saying that everything was going to plan with Yams adding that this was all some Hobo misinformation assault?

They are insufferable.

Aye, the guy who's mate is working on the project who insisted it was all on time.

Mantis Toboggan
03-08-2017, 08:17 PM
They should be made to suffer in the pocket by playing at their own ground in front of reduced capacities. Doesn't affect us at all but they should not be allowed to benefit financially from their own mismanagement.

An extra 20k zombies at 25 a pop is £500k. Massive financial boost.

Northernhibee
03-08-2017, 08:17 PM
If we get 30,000 it will make our new capacity of 20,000 seem like a bad call affy quickly.

A quote lifted directly from Kickback.

Surely they'll be able to sell out Murrayfield what with the 400,000?

DH1875
03-08-2017, 08:19 PM
Do they not need to play everyone once at Murryfield if they play even one game there?

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 08:24 PM
Do they not need to play everyone once at Murryfield if they play even one game there?

I read that somewhere else
Did ICT not have to do just that when they shared Pittodrie a few years back?

Skol
03-08-2017, 08:26 PM
So

Everything's ahead of schedule, but it rained a bit and a boats late and so its a seven.SEVEN. week delay. Really !

Rangers game might move for Telly.....actually there is an Edinburgh Ultra Marathon being run the day after which finishes in Murrayfield and so the game cannot move to the Sunday !!!

I reckon it will be ready for the Aberdeen game after all....in the 3rd round of fixtures

High-On-Hibs
03-08-2017, 08:27 PM
This is entirely their own fault. All their home games should be NIL and VOID until they can play there. Imagine what would have happened had it been us instead, they'd have stuck the fingers right up at us.

tamig
03-08-2017, 08:27 PM
I read that somewhere else
Did ICT not have to do just that when they used Pittodrie

I think the rules were ripped up a long time ago tbh. They make them up as they go along.

murray26
03-08-2017, 08:28 PM
Can't see the sevconians taking more than 5 k to Murray field for a mid table borefest..

brianmc
03-08-2017, 08:29 PM
If that is the case, i trust Leeann will not accommodate them.
They should have arranged something with Livingston long ago.
The must have known this could happen.
Livvy would have welcomed the revenue.

Or held back on season tickets sales for the new stand and just played in front of the other 3
We did just that, with none of all this fuss.
But no, they still went ahead and sold the STs "knowing" the stand build could have had problems
The "delay" was a nap given the starting date.
Blaming rain and sea-going freighters is a lot of nonsense.

No idea what it will cost them to hire Murrayfield.
But i guess they have budgeted for that....
Haven't they!!?
Game against Govan FC will help those costs.
Its all a farce and embarrassing for them.

How Miss 6% got the club into this mess must be the question hertz fans need to ask.

On the plus side,Cathro has gone, so no issue with the goal posts at Murrayfield!!

Whilst I'm all for putting the boot into the maroon balloons, I'd be interested to hear your theory about them using Livi's 10k capacity ground (-1 stand for the "away end" , so make that 7½k capacity) instead of playing in front of 3 stands @ circa 13k at tinkcastle. What's your rationale behind suggesting the puddle drinkers do that?

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 08:30 PM
I think the rules were ripped up a long time ago tbh. They make them up as they go along.
Aye After the EBT debacle/backdown, you are correct

Sergey
03-08-2017, 08:31 PM
Do they not need to play everyone once at Murryfield if they play even one game there?

I thought that, too - but seemingly there was an SFA meeting at the back-end of last season and it was agreed with the SPL teams that Yams could play the odd fixture at Murrayfield without incurring a penalty as an emergency measure.

I read the text and 'weeks delay' was mentioned - this statement states the project is nearly 3 months late and they'll have their fingers crossed that they can complete by November before the rugby starts.

:lolyam:

The Falcon
03-08-2017, 08:31 PM
Can't see the sevconians taking more than 5 k to Murray field for a mid table borefest..

Can they reduce the price of a ticket to attract a bigger crowd?

O'Rourke3
03-08-2017, 08:32 PM
Heats to play at MF? No shirt Sherlock.:faf: Not been over to Throwback yet but the number on there insisting it was on time on Tuesday was terrific... That or GG has a number of accounts

brianmc
03-08-2017, 08:32 PM
Do they not need to play everyone once at Murryfield if they play even one game there?

They already have an agreement in place (allegedly) with the other spfl teams to weasel their way around this rule.
Special dispensation blah blah....

Wakeyhibee
03-08-2017, 08:35 PM
so everything has basically been on schedule or thereabouts but for a few thousand plastic seats it's delayed for 2 months. Utter crap !!!!

fat freddy
03-08-2017, 08:38 PM
FRAUD 'wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.'
"he was convicted of fraud"
synonyms: fraudulence, sharp practice, cheating, swindling, trickery, artifice, deceit, deception, double-dealing, duplicity, treachery, chicanery, skulduggery, imposture, embezzlement; More
a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"

If Budge sold season tickets to the gullibles knowing that the item she was selling wouldn't be ready on time it strikes me as fraudulent practise.
She should be brought before the highest court in the land and given a medal for shafting the Yams harder than Vlad ever did.

murray26
03-08-2017, 08:39 PM
Can they reduce the price of a ticket to attract a bigger crowd?

I honestly don't know but can't see them pissing off there season ticket holders anymore by doing that..

WHAM
03-08-2017, 08:40 PM
Some of the creeps across the road think they might sell out the rangers league game. Good crowd maybe. But 60,000 🤣🤣

ancient hibee
03-08-2017, 08:40 PM
I thought that, too - but seemingly there was an SFA meeting at the back-end of last season and it was agreed with the SPL teams that Yams could play the odd fixture at Murrayfield without incurring a penalty as an emergency measure.

I read the text and 'weeks delay' was mentioned - this statement states the project is nearly 3 months late and they'll have their fingers crossed that they can complete by November before the rugby starts.

:lolyam:
Why would the SFA be involved in league fixtures.Seems a most unlikely story.

Mick O'Rourke
03-08-2017, 08:40 PM
Whilst I'm all for putting the boot into the maroon balloons, I'd be interested to hear your theory about them using Livi's 10k capacity ground (-1 stand for the "away end" , so make that 7½k capacity) instead of playing in front of 3 stands @ circa 13k at tinkcastle. What's your rationale behind suggesting the puddle drinkers do that?



Livingston was talked about as a possible venue before they sold one season ticket.

Of course i am aware Livvy's ground holds 10k

I did also mention playing in front of 3 stands.
Did you miss that bit?
Other than that, I don't have a theory for you.

On puddle drinking, I tend not to call them that.
its a bit like them calling us vermin and other names i wont repeat here.
Rather infantile.

mjhibby
03-08-2017, 08:46 PM
It's not just missing it by a week or two..It's now planned to be completed in November! 🤣

It was patently clear they were miles away with the stand at the pars game. Bugger all to do with seats not arriving. There is only a shell there and they will be lucky to be ready by November. What a surprise. What happens if the money runs out. Shambles of a club.

Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 08:46 PM
Some of the creeps across the road think they might sell out the rangers league game. Good crowd maybe. But 60,000 🤣🤣


No chance, I think the game will be limited to the capacity of Tynecaatle as then there would be an advantage financially if they sold 30-40k tickets.

In other news there seems to be a lot accusations of being Hibs fans going on over there, anyone with a low post count is being hounded. Paul Heartsly has to be an undercover Hibby. :greengrin

Sergey
03-08-2017, 08:52 PM
Why would the SFA be involved in league fixtures.Seems a most unlikely story.

Maybe it was the SPFL or whoever the governing body is*.

*Disclaimer - I most likely read it on Kickback so it most likely is tosh.

Billy Whizz
03-08-2017, 08:53 PM
Be interesting to see what sort of ticket allocation they give Sevco.

Sevco should take what they normally get. This would hurt Hearts

SirDavidsNapper
03-08-2017, 08:54 PM
No chance, I think the game will be limited to the capacity of Tynecaatle as then there would be an advantage financially if they sold 30-40k tickets.

In other news there seems to be a lot accusations of being Hibs fans going on over there, anyone with a low post count is being hounded. Paul Heartsly has to be an undercover Hibby. :greengrinSaw that. "there's 400k of us" [emoji23][emoji23]

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O'Rourke3
03-08-2017, 08:55 PM
Well that was fun. Kickbackers torn between lemons and lemonade. Charge huns more. Forgetting or not understanding there are rules in place about that. Glad we are now doing the job right instead of rushed. My favourite. No impact on the budget overrun... Wtf are they on?

Radium
03-08-2017, 08:59 PM
On their current form, they've probably booked the ice rink rather than the rugby ground. I remember years ago they announced that they were playing Hamburg during a training trip to Germany. Turns out it was Homburg. Nice hats though [emoji6]

Surely not, pitch would be too big [emoji51]


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SanFranHibs
03-08-2017, 09:00 PM
Sure it's been asked and I suppose I should know, but, say 15,000 Rangers fans turn up to Murrayfield how is the money that they pay disbursed? I presume it will still be tickets only?

Mikey
03-08-2017, 09:02 PM
This is an issue for us.

We hope to be up there with Aberdeen and Rangers fighting for second spot and they get to play Hearts at a neutral venue, perhaps with thousands more of their own fans in attendance. Hearts should be playing every team once at Murrayfield to make it fair to everyone else.

Bristolhibby
03-08-2017, 09:04 PM
We are all assuming this is temporary.

With Hearts General record of being ****, it could be an Edinburgh Derby at Murrayfield on Boxing Day.

Or does Edinburgh still play Glasgow there on Boxing Day?

J

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 09:08 PM
It was patently clear they were miles away with the stand at the pars game. Bugger all to do with seats not arriving. There is only a shell there and they will be lucky to be ready by November. What a surprise. What happens if the money runs out. Shambles of a club.Exactly.

Even the thickest idiot who puts money in cows and buys £2,99 plastic owls
for £4k must be able to see that if the plastic seats arrived the same day as the dunfermline game they weren't in a position to fit them anytime soon.

They'll swallow any old crap. They've become conditioned to it.

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Hermit Crab
03-08-2017, 09:11 PM
Every team has agreed to Hearts moving a few games over to MF, we can't complain.

poolman
03-08-2017, 09:17 PM
One dafty

"Most accommodating from the SRU.Once again reinforces our status as the establishment club of Edinburgh"

WTF are these guys smoking 😂

monarch
03-08-2017, 09:18 PM
This is an issue for us.

We hope to be up there with Aberdeen and Rangers fighting for second spot and they get to play Hearts at a neutral venue, perhaps with thousands more of their own fans in attendance. Hearts should be playing every team once at Murrayfield to make it fair to everyone else.

A valid point but to be fair we are undefeated there over the last 2 seasons :wink:

Radium
03-08-2017, 09:25 PM
My Granddad on the Hearts side of the family used to mention that HMFC had the opportunity to move to Murrayfield in the 50's. Never researched it to find out if it was true but it seems ironic ATM.


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GreenCastle
03-08-2017, 09:26 PM
Hahahahaha! Many of us have been saying on this thread that it wasn't going to be ready and now a typical yam..everything is ok statement !

They are so gullable or just thick ?!

What a mess and embaressment - can they ever do anything the right way?

The Rangers game has the potential to kick off if security / away fans isn't managed properly.

Pete
03-08-2017, 09:30 PM
It makes sense. Kyle Lafferty looks like a rugby post.

Bostonhibby
03-08-2017, 09:43 PM
It makes sense. Kyle Lafferty looks like a rugby post.

:greengrin But the rugby post would beat him at a game of scrabble.

heretoday
03-08-2017, 09:55 PM
Sure it's been asked and I suppose I should know, but, say 15,000 Rangers fans turn up to Murrayfield how is the money that they pay disbursed? I presume it will still be tickets only?
Oh God they'll be all over Corstorphine. We'll have to go away for the weekend.

Mantis Toboggan
03-08-2017, 10:04 PM
Oh God they'll be all over Corstorphine. We'll have to go away for the weekend.

As a Murrayfield resident I thought it couldn't get worse than pissed up middle age women at the Robbie Williams gig but looks like I was wrong. Swap the bottles of rose for buckfast and reduce the overall tooth count and we are there and in a bad place

O'Rourke3
03-08-2017, 10:16 PM
Restricted view seats in the new stand are on average £5 more expensive than non-restricted views.Only PHM sit in seats that cannot see the game, pay over the odds, don't complain. Badge of honour over there....

Pete
03-08-2017, 10:17 PM
As a Murrayfield resident I thought it couldn't get worse than pissed up middle age women at the Robbie Williams gig but looks like I was wrong. Swap the bottles of rose for buckfast and reduce the overall tooth count and we are there and in a bad place

It was a nightmare when Celtic played a European match at Murrayfield. Jakies everywhere.
I remember meeting loads of them who were patronising as **** when I said I was a hibs fan so I always replied by asking them where they were from, looking surprised and then asking them what was wrong with their local team.

The actual weegies are mainly alright in my experience.

GreenCastle
03-08-2017, 10:19 PM
The yams are going to have 7 home games in a row at the PBS then St Johnstone away then us on 27th December.

Hopefully their pitch is better than last years as was horrendous when we played them at the piggery and with the bad weather and lots of games it could be even worse.

majorhibs
03-08-2017, 10:41 PM
Every team has agreed to Hearts moving a few games over to MF, we can't complain.

Been away a while but imagine just coming back & seeing you sticking up for the poppy thieves just like before- shocker- not!

Danderhall Hibs
03-08-2017, 10:46 PM
Been away a while but imagine just coming back & seeing you sticking up for the poppy thieves just like before- shocker- not!

I don't think he's sticking up for them just pointing out that the clubs have allowed them to do what they want.

The_Exile
03-08-2017, 10:56 PM
The yams are going to have 7 home games in a row at the PBS then St Johnstone away then us on 27th December.

Hopefully their pitch is better than last years as was horrendous when we played them at the piggery and with the bad weather and lots of games it could be even worse.

Was just thinking that. Will the pitch stand up to winter weather and multiple games in quick succession? Doubt it. Although would suit their style of play!

Sioux
03-08-2017, 11:03 PM
A post from the muppet crew are predicting 30,000 against Dons & huns, whilst another suggests 20-25,000!

WTF planet are they on?

To make it worse;

"I cant see Budge passing up the chance of knocking back extra revenue going into the coffers unless of course she thinks we can get sell 58k our self's with season ticket holders included"

And;

"Give them 20,000 tickets, 2,000 for segregation, 45,000 for us."

Mantis Toboggan
04-08-2017, 12:41 AM
I don't think he's sticking up for them just pointing out that the clubs have allowed them to do what they want.

Doesnt mean that what has been agreed is acceptable. Personally I think its a complete joke.

Mantis Toboggan
04-08-2017, 12:43 AM
It was a nightmare when Celtic played a European match at Murrayfield. Jakies everywhere.
I remember meeting loads of them who were patronising as **** when I said I was a hibs fan so I always replied by asking them where they were from, looking surprised and then asking them what was wrong with their local team.

The actual weegies are mainly alright in my experience.

agree, the worst of the worst tend to be from outside Glasgow. As we are about to find out when the whole of Larkhall descends on The Roseburn.

monktonharp
04-08-2017, 12:50 AM
agree, the worst of the worst tend to be from outside Glasgow. As we are about to find out when the whole of Larkhall descends on The Roseburn.now now, you are being a bit ungenerous about Lerkie, just because they insisted on the local Mc Donalds being a blue colour or they widnae use it :wink: Imagine the Roseburn, slabbered with blue paint :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
04-08-2017, 02:17 AM
A post from the muppet crew are predicting 30,000 against Dons & huns, whilst another suggests 20-25,000!

WTF planet are they on?

To make it worse;

"I cant see Budge passing up the chance of knocking back extra revenue going into the coffers unless of course she thinks we can get sell 58k our self's with season ticket holders included"

And;

"Give them 20,000 tickets, 2,000 for segregation, 45,000 for us."


the chance to watch footy games in a nice spacious 67k stadium, a chance to boast that you watched your footy team play at the biggest sports stadium in scotland.....i don't think he will be far wrong with those predictions..imo :dunno:

lapsedhibee
04-08-2017, 05:31 AM
the chance to watch footy games in a nice spacious 67k stadium, a chance to boast that you watched your footy team play at the biggest sports stadium in scotland.....i don't think he will be far wrong with those predictions..imo :dunno:

You don't think a prediction of 30,000 for Hearts against Aberdeen will be far wrong? :confused:

The_Sauz
04-08-2017, 05:40 AM
Got to laugh at this from the BBC article
" Hearts have played six European ties at Murrayfield going back to 2004, and they also hosted a friendly match against Barcelona back in the summer of 2007 watched by over 57,000 fans." :faf:
When in fact it was Barcelona who hosted the game as part of their training camp which was held in St Andrews!

Springbank
04-08-2017, 05:48 AM
If hearts are bottom of the league in October, and the weather is bad on the day, expect fewer than 10k season ticket holders to pitch up for St Johnstone and maybe 850 saints fans for the curiosity factor of a game at murrayfield.

Won't sell many chips that day

blackpoolhibs
04-08-2017, 06:01 AM
Why can't everything now revert to normal, and they play their games home and away now they've admitted they need to play at Murrayfield? :confused:

Aldo
04-08-2017, 06:05 AM
No chance they will be allowed to have 20k plus Huns at Murrayfield.

They will be permitted to use the lower tier only.


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The_Sauz
04-08-2017, 06:11 AM
Why can't everything now revert to normal, and they play their games home and away now they've admitted they need to play at Murrayfield? :confused:
It's the Hertz we are talking about! The word "Normal" has not yet been invented over at the Gorgie :greengrin

lucky
04-08-2017, 06:45 AM
No chance they will be allowed to have 20k plus Huns at Murrayfield.

They will be permitted to use the lower tier only.


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Why not? It's manageable at Hampden so why can't they do it Murrayfield? If fans want to go to a game and there's seat available it would be nonsense not to allow them to attend.

Aldo
04-08-2017, 06:48 AM
Why not? It's manageable at Hampden so why can't they do it Murrayfield? If fans want to go to a game and there's seat available it would be nonsense not to allow them to attend.

Segregation issues and I'm sure they will have to consult the Police as the dynamics of 3,500 or so compared to 20,000 is vast!

Changes everything in That respect.


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lucky
04-08-2017, 06:53 AM
I'm sure the police will be able to segregate the crowd. If Hibs were to play them there would anyone on here claim we should only get 3500 tickets?

Ozyhibby
04-08-2017, 06:55 AM
I'm sure the police will be able to segregate the crowd. If Hibs were to play them there would anyone on here claim we should only get 3500 tickets?

Murrayfield is not really designed for segregation. They will need a lot of stewards to do it.


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greenginger
04-08-2017, 06:56 AM
Why not? It's manageable at Hampden so why can't they do it Murrayfield? If fans want to go to a game and there's seat available it would be nonsense not to allow them to attend.


For major rugby internationals with 67,000 crowd to be managed there are a whole raft of measures put in place.

Road closures before and after games, extra trams, huge police and steward presence, whole stadium to clean afterwards, etc.

All this costs, £££'s and would have to be arranged well in advance of the game and paid for by Mrs. Budge whether the grunts turn up or not.

lucky
04-08-2017, 07:10 AM
25000 Hearts & 20000 Rangers fans in a 67000 stadium should be easily segregated. There are plenty of options to send fans there separate ways after the game. It will cost money but with a decent increase in the attendance it will be easily covered. Clubs don't pay for policing outside the ground or additional public transport

tamig
04-08-2017, 07:16 AM
I'm not really sure why anyone would think there would be a demand from 20k huns to come to Edinburgh for a normal league game tbh.

hibee92
04-08-2017, 07:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

Live scenes from Tynecastle this morning


2 months' delay because of rain and the Chinese, at least she's honest.

southsider
04-08-2017, 07:22 AM
I'm not really sure why anyone would think there would be a demand from 20k huns to come to Edinburgh for a normal league game tbh.
Perhaps take in a few shows from our International Festival at the same time. An opera, a jazz quartet, or a book reading perhaps ?

monarch
04-08-2017, 07:25 AM
Been away a while but imagine just coming back & seeing you sticking up for the poppy thieves just like before- shocker- not!

Hermit Crab was stating a fact not an opinion.

ian cruise
04-08-2017, 07:30 AM
Doesnt mean that what has been agreed is acceptable. Personally I think its a complete joke.

Many if us will but that do sent change the fact it's already been agreed. Hermit was in no way sticking up for Hearts, he was stating fact. Clubs already told Hearts thus was acceptable so what fans think now is unfortunately irrelevant.

HibbyDave
04-08-2017, 07:30 AM
Statement released by them to say they are 2 months delayed on superstand..... playing at least three matches at Murrayfield. Cue meltdown on JKB over how this could have happened, how many tickets will the hubs get etc etc

ian cruise
04-08-2017, 07:32 AM
Statement released by them to say they are 2 months delayed on superstand..... playing at least three matches at Murrayfield. Cue meltdown on JKB over how this could have happened, how many tickets will the hubs get etc etc

Already another thread on this. They're not upset at all, they're celebrating all the extra tickets they'll get and how many more they can sell to Rangers to add to their coffers.

Ronniekirk
04-08-2017, 07:34 AM
Already another thread on this. They're not upset at all, they're celebrating all the extra tickets they'll get and how many more they can sell to Rangers to add to their coffers.

Yep probably planned


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Bostonhibby
04-08-2017, 07:44 AM
Many if us will but that do sent change the fact it's already been agreed. Hermit was in no way sticking up for Hearts, he was stating fact. Clubs already told Hearts thus was acceptable so what fans think now is unfortunately irrelevant.Yep. Disappointed that my club seem to have done the opposite of what I'd do as a fan. Probably fans of other clubs will think the same.

You can't blame the yams for trying and getting away with it again. It is however a distraction for their fans from how much of a shambles the stand has become.



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Hermit Crab
04-08-2017, 07:58 AM
Been away a while but imagine just coming back & seeing you sticking up for the poppy thieves just like before- shocker- not!

There you go ya :trumpet:

From KB this evening
We've been given special dispensation by the SPFL/other clubs to that rule (thankfully!)



Tonight at the FoH meeting Ann stated that it has been agreed over a year ago that if necessary some games will be played at Murrayfield and when the stand is ready it will be back at Tynecastle. All agreed by the other clubs and the SPFL in advance.

Firestarter
04-08-2017, 08:03 AM
Perhaps take in a few shows from our International Festival at the same time. An opera, a jazz quartet, or a book reading perhaps ?

😂😂