Scott Allan - signs a 4 year deal with Celtic

[bingo70]

This is just the start of things that will come from leaked agent to contacts in the press, we could have another month of this crap, The Rangers will make there 3rd bid and Hibs will turn it down and things will be ramped up even more by leaked stories to the press about how bad Hibs are treating SA when in reality we are the ones who have revived his career by giving him the platform to get back to playing football again, probably the most games he has played in a season in his career so far, Stubbs must feel very let down by him right now but SA agent has a job to do for his client and yes verbal counts for nothing but it's the damage that could be done in the next month to the club if this drags out to the last few hours of the window closing.

The last thing we need is some circus show happening every other day with regards SA, we have a league to concentrate on with and win this season, we cannot get of to a bad start this time around in the league.

Sadly it is now out of Stubbs hands what happens with SA, it's our Board that need to be strong from now on.

Yup, I'd guess the next stage will be Allan not turning up for training one day or not pulling his weight while he is there.

[21.05.2016]

From what I've heard, this has already been the case. Hope we boot him out the door, just not to Rangers. No player is bigger than the club.

I seriously hope this is not true. Hibs have done a lot for Scott Allan and his career so it would be a huge slap in the face to Stubbs and the club if he is starting to act up and disrupting the rest of the team. Stubbs, the team and the entire club deserve a lot better than that. Rangers have accomplished exactly what they set out to do if this is the case. A couple pathetic bids (that they knew fine well we would not accept) and they have managed to get inside the players head and cause problems in the hibs camp.

No player is bigger than the club and we shouldn't let one player ruin our season preparations. The club have made it abundantly clear that there will be no sale to The Rangers so Allan needs to get over it, act like a professional and give 100% for hibs to try get us up and continue to prove his worth. Either that or he can spit the dummy out, go in the huff and start causing Stubbs problems in which case if I was Stubbs I'd be telling him to stay away from the first team and train with the laddies. If I was Alan i'd just get my head down and work my arse off for hibs this season and continue to attract attention from clubs knowing that hibs have given me their blessing to leave in the summer. Acting up and becoming a problem player may potentially make clubs turn away from him as nobody wants troublemakers and players with bad attitudes in their dressing room.

[green day]

Sadly it is now out of Stubbs hands what happens with SA, it's our Board that need to be strong from now on.

As well as being strong, we should also (might already) engage a PR agency to manage "our story" - I am pretty sure Viola will have some strategies worked up and we need to be on our toes.

[green day]

Yeh probably just coincidence that he was out with the rangers team. Nicky clark probably doesn't even know about the speculation.

Maybe I wasnt clear - I think it's deliberate, but it is only an issue if Hibs fans make it an issue.

It's a PR war, and if we get all excited, the Huns win.

[silverhibee]

Does everyone still believe the agent drives a deal without consent of the player?

I think it's crazy to think that they've not given consent for the agent to take the heat and chase the pound for them.

The agent works for his client, if his client is aware of a club being after client from agent then he either tells agent he is happy at the club he is at or tells him to make the move happen to club that is after him, it can't be proved but everyone knows the club would contact the agent first to sound out the thoughts of his client before making any contact with the club in question.

[Baldy Foghorn]

As well as being strong, we should also (might already) engage a PR agency to manage "our story" - I am pretty sure Viola will have some strategies worked up and we need to be on our toes.

We have that already

[IWasThere2016]

The agent works for his client, if his client is aware of a club being after client from agent then he either tells agent he is happy at the club he is at or tells him to make the move happen to club that is after him, it can't be proved but everyone knows the club would contact the agent first to sound out the thoughts of his client before making any contact with the club in question.

This. SA will know exactly what's on the table from Der Hun also.

[Del Boy]

Any more news on the apparent interest from Celtic?

I'd sell him to Celtic for £400k + McGeough

[Lago]

Has it?
Yip, last week from Stubbs expect at least 2 in week commencing 21st. Yesterdays after match press interview, we are not selling we are expecting to bring players in, I paraphrase.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Any more news on the apparent interest from Celtic?

I'd sell him to Celtic for £400k + McGeough

SA can still veto that option though.....

[Baldy Foghorn]

Yip, last week from Stubbs expect at least 2 in week commencing 21st. Yesterdays after match press interview, we are not selling we are expecting to bring players in, I paraphrase.

Maybe the lack of ST sales has hampered that?

[Iggy Pope]

Scott is a fantastic player, but his attitude is and always will be questionable.

Have you questioned it any time since last August?

[macd123]

Maybe I wasnt clear - I think it's deliberate, but it is only an issue if Hibs fans make it an issue.

It's a PR war, and if we get all excited, the Huns win.

OK fair enough.

I think we also need to remember his agent doesn't care as long as he gets a cut. We need to just offer his agent a much bigger cut to find a buyer from down south and see what happens.

[adhibs]

Far too mant trustworthy souls on here if people think that photos just an innocent night out. Thankfully im confident that stubbs will never sell him to the huns but I hope his hibs careers over as well

[silverhibee]

Their tactics have worked a treat, going by the number of people now saying they're not that bothered now if he goes.

Its now playing out exactly as The Huns will have wanted.

Next step will be to start becoming a problem at training or alienate himself from the rest of the players.

If that happens then Hibs have every right to make him train on his own as long as a coach is there to supervise, make him train at ER through the week so he doesn't get to cause any problems with the squad at EM and he isn't allowed to attend match games at ER, if we are strong enough we can play hard ball too, are we strong enough though, in a way yes as this is what basically happened to the young lad (forget his name) who i think is playing in Ireland now.

[Golden Bear]

If that happens then Hibs have every right to make him train on his own as long as a coach is there to supervise, make him train at ER through the week so he doesn't get to cause any problems with the squad at EM and he isn't allowed to attend match games at ER, if we are strong enough we can play hard ball too, are we strong enough though, in a way yes as this is what basically happened to the young lad (forget his name) who i think is playing in Ireland now.

DG

[Pete]

If that happens then Hibs have every right to make him train on his own as long as a coach is there to supervise, make him train at ER through the week so he doesn't get to cause any problems with the squad at EM and he isn't allowed to attend match games at ER, if we are strong enough we can play hard ball too, are we strong enough though, in a way yes as this is what basically happened to the young lad (forget his name) who i think is playing in Ireland now.

I hope that's what we do even though it will be a genuine waste of a wage.

This will probably have been discussed and going by our comments so far I actually think we will follow it through.

It's time to stand up to this.

[JimBHibees]

Maybe I wasnt clear - I think it's deliberate, but it is only an issue if Hibs fans make it an issue.

It's a PR war, and if we get all excited, the Huns win.

Completely agree actually think this was an old photo released to cause mischief. Think the gear they are wearing isn't this time of the year and don't think if this time of year pro players would be piling into huge beers. How many are actually players though? Hutton, Clark Allan, Halliday other random joes.

Best ignored.

[silverhibee]

It's not that simple given what's been in the media over the last week or so.

Imo allowing himself to be photographed with a group of rangers players is pretty disrespectful to the rest of the hibs team.

If, and it is a if that was taken last night then I'm with you Bingo, it isn't right on the day we have just been gubbed 6-2 to be getting a photo taken of himself and other Rangers players, once again, if it was taken last night it's all part of him and his agents plan to get a move, if he had any savvy he would have asked not to be in the photo or made sure who was taking it wasn't going to put it up on twitter or facebook, he was happy to pose knowing it would get leaked in to social media.

[essexhibee]

Yes he's out with his mates. Not a crime.

Yes he's out celebrating a friends birthday post match. Not a crime.

Posting the photo online post losing to his mates team? Stupid and naive. And in the current furore and climate? Down right stupid and classless.

There's no need for that photo to be posted online. Why not keep it amongst themselves? Why the need for the caption? Allan knows exactly what he's doing IMO and that's the crucial point. Disgraceful way to treat the club.

[brog]

Completely agree actually think this was an old photo released to cause mischief. Think the gear they are wearing isn't this time of the year and don't think if this time of year pro players would be piling into huge beers. How many are actually players though? Hutton, Clark Allan, Halliday other random joes.

Best ignored.

I had the same thought. As for agents #1 concern being for their client then that's not my experience. Agents will certainly represent their clients fully but the agent is also in business for himself. If Sevco offer £300k in instalments & Celtc, or someone else offers £1m then Viola will be twisting Scott's arm to take the higher offer. There's no loyalty in football, as we're seeing.

[blackpoolhibs]

Maybe the lack of ST sales has hampered that?


And what possible reason or reasons could there possibly be for poor sales?

[Del Boy]

Completely agree actually think this was an old photo released to cause mischief. Think the gear they are wearing isn't this time of the year and don't think if this time of year pro players would be piling into huge beers. How many are actually players though? Hutton, Clark Allan, Halliday other random joes.

Best ignored.

One of the guys in photo is apparently Matt Flynn a guy who headbutted Barry Douglas seconds before another of Allan's mates knocked Danny Swanson unconscious during a night out a few years ago when Allan was breaking through at United. The incident was bizarre as it seemed to be a fight between Scott Allan's pals and Scott Allan's current team mates!

[silverhibee]

I hope that's what we do even though it will be a genuine waste of a wage.

This will probably have been discussed and going by our comments so far I actually think we will follow it through.

It's time to stand up to this.

I pretty much doubt SA is on a big basic wage at ER for the 2 year contract he signed, a year left, probably the cost of a trip to La Manga for the week now :greengrin, he might be relying on bonuses and appearance money to make a decent wage at Hibs weekly, if he ain't playing he doesn't get them.

Mr Allan needs to have a good think to himself, knuckle down at Hibs and get on with things as the last thing he needs is a year out from playing football at this point in his career, but him and his agent are rocking the boat and they better watch they don't rock it to far, Leeann Dempster won't be messed around by this lot from the West. I hope. :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

DG

Why was he told to train on his own?

[Baldy Foghorn]

And what possible reason or reasons could there possibly be for poor sales?

Why do you bother posting BH, when it is just constant negativity?

[percy veer]

Everyone seen the picture of him out partying with the Rangers team hours after the defeat .

[Heisenberg]

Everyone seen the picture of him out partying with the Rangers team hours after the defeat .

It's apparently a picture from months ago in Berlin for the champions league final.

[tamig]

Everyone seen the picture of him out partying with the Rangers team hours after the defeat .

Have you read some of the earlier posts? Do you know when the pic was taken?

[J-C]

This one :rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/ibrox.loyal/photos/a.145935918812710.36315.143213802418255/900181426721485/?type=1&comment_id=900226610050300&notif_t=comment_mention


Is that pic not when he went to the champions league in Berlin, they're stein glasses in front of them, don't do glasses like that in Glasgow.


Kyle Hutton in the pic and he's not at Rangers now.

[brog]

It's apparently a picture from months ago in Berlin for the champions league final.

Yep, he went there with Andy Halliday & those look like German beer mugs!

[PiemanP]

This one :rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/ibrox.loyal/photos/a.145935918812710.36315.143213802418255/900181426721485/?type=1&comment_id=900226610050300&notif_t=comment_mention

That's an old photo.

[GreenCastle]

Yes he's out with his mates. Not a crime.

Yes he's out celebrating a friends birthday post match. Not a crime.

Posting the photo online post losing to his mates team? Stupid and naive. And in the current furore and climate? Down right stupid and classless.

There's no need for that photo to be posted online. Why not keep it amongst themselves? Why the need for the caption? Allan knows exactly what he's doing IMO and that's the crucial point. Disgraceful way to treat the club.

Allan didn't post the photo - a sevco players friend did and Clark retweeted it. Those beer mugs are definitely German also - any bar in Edinburgh or Glasgow serve beer like that ?

Anyone bored of this nonsense ? so many rumours - nonsense opinions and people jumping to conclusions.

I'm sure there are some undercover Huns stirring things up on this forum also.

[erskine-hibby]

It seems to me that SA, his agent, the west coast meeja, the rangers and his mates at the hunnery are doing him no favours whatsoever. If he had acted with a bit of dignity, he could have nipped this in the bud. If he wanted to move to the the rangers he could/can sign a precontract in January, and would have gone with the blessing of most Hibs fans. Now he has put himself, and Hibs, in a terrible position. I would say it would be a great bit of business now if Hibs could unload him to just about anyone, other than them. If he says no, and doesn't wish to play for Hibs, it would be right and prudent for Hibs to stick him in the reserves for the rest of his time at ER, NOT selling him now to them has become good business sense for Hibs regardless of his wage.

[jacomo]

Allan didn't post the photo - a sevco players friend did and Clark retweeted it. Those mugs are definitely German also - any bar in Edinburgh or Glasgow serve beer like that ?

Anyone bored of this nonsense ? so many rumours - nonsense opinions and people jumping to conclusions.

I'm sure there are some undercover Huns stirring things up on this forum also.

So bored.

We can all see the strings being pulled, and yet we are still falling for the same old tactics. **** Sevco. They want one of our players but cannae afford him.

[Kojock]

Difficult keeping up with this thread, but here's my take on it. If he wants to go to Der Hun then we simply say no. If he insists on leaving he trains with the development squad. If he is being disruptive to them then he trains on his own. Would rather us be weaker without SA than them be stronger with him.

[CorrieHibs]

It looks like the bier Halle in Glasgow.

[Brightside]

Why has everyone assumed that the pic is from last night? Looks like a German bar to me... Champions League?

[son of haggart]

Allan didn't post the photo - a sevco players friend did and Clark retweeted it. Those beer mugs are definitely German also - any bar in Edinburgh or Glasgow serve beer like that ?

Anyone bored of this nonsense ? so many rumours - nonsense opinions and people jumping to conclusions.

I'm sure there are some undercover Huns stirring things up on this forum also.

http://www.weekendnotes.co.uk/republic-bier-halle/

looks like this place

not to say that it was taken yesterday, and I hope you hold out against sevco - no way should they and their media friends be allowed to dictate what happens in Scottish football or we are back to the 'old days' - if we ever left them

[cabbageandribs1875]

Difficult keeping up with this thread, but here's my take on it. If he wants to go to Der Hun then we simply say no. If he insists on leaving he trains with the development squad. If he is being disruptive to them then he trains on his own. Would rather us be weaker without SA than them be stronger with him.


can you imagine the vile gutter press making up stories about that situation ? ripping our club to shreds, big bad nawty hibs send star player to coventry(not the club coventry) there will never be any mention in the press of the little scrotes statements regarding honouring his remaining 12 months contract....at the only club that gave him a break...my estimation of scott allan as a decent human being has plummeted

[Borderhibbie76]

Why do you bother posting BH, when it is just constant negativity?

Couldn't agree more BF it's tiresome...he claims apathy on all things Hibs but yet never stops posting negative posts on here??

[hibs0666]

It looks like the bier Halle in Glasgow.

Nah, if you look closely they're left handed steins. The bier Halle uses right handed ones exclusively.

[ancient hibee]

Don't know if this has been posted already but Petrie was asked the question in Behind the Goals and said that Scott Allan will not be transferred to Rangers.

[bingo70]

Couldn't agree more BF it's tiresome...he claims apathy on all things Hibs but yet never stops posting negative posts on here??

I disagree.

Don't know BH but I get the.impression he's desperate for hibs to convince him to start going back again.

Regarding the negative posts, unfortunately the negative posters have also been right on almost all matters in recent years.

[Kojock]

can you imagine the vile gutter press making up stories about that situation ? ripping our club to shreds, big bad nawty hibs send star player to coventry(not the club coventry) there will never be any mention in the press of the little scrotes statements regarding honouring his remaining 12 months contract....at the only club that gave him a break...my estimation of scott allan as a decent human being has plummeted

The press will print what they want, who cares ?? My opinion of SA has not changed from last season, he is an excellent footballer with room for improvement. Until I know the outcome of this whole sorry affair then I will support SA.

[Capt Mainwaring]

Far too many folk on here being influenced as intended by the Rangers and west coast PR machine. Turning Hibs against SA then working on splitting the Hibs fans against him.

Same old same routine - seen it all before with Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson and others before that. Old firm likely with Agents agitating things with leaks and influencing west coast based media to cover "we understand...." type coverage. Far too many folk falling for it and playing exactly into the intended hands of Rangers

I'll stay calm and trust in Stubbs and Dempster for now and I'll certainly not be contributing to the abuse some are starting to give SA based on nothing more than rumour and assumptions.

Keep Calm and Carry On - SA is a valuable player that retains my full support. As do Hibs

GGTTH

[magpie1892]

It's apparently a picture from months ago in Berlin for the champions league final.

http://republicbierhalle.com/

I used to go there a fair bit when I was working in Glasgow.

[blackpoolhibs]

I disagree.

Don't know BH but I get the.impression he's desperate for hibs to convince him to start going back again.

Regarding the negative posts, unfortunately the negative posters have also been right on almost all matters in recent years.

Give me something positive and I am as positive as the next person. Remember the last time we did anything of note, finishing 4th and qualifications for Europe through our seasons play. I think you will find I was one of only a few who were happy with that achievement. In fact the guy who is having a go was quite happy to stick the boot in then. When we punch our weight, I'm more than happy.

[liamh2202]

Far too many folk on here being influenced as intended by the Rangers and west coast PR machine. Turning Hibs against SA then working on splitting the Hibs fans against him.

Same old same routine - seen it all before with Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson and others before that. Old firm likely with Agents agitating things with leaks and influencing west coast based media to cover "we understand...." type coverage. Far too many folk falling for it and playing exactly into the intended hands of Rangers

I'll stay calm and trust in Stubbs and Dempster for now and I'll certainly not be contributing to the abuse some are starting to give SA based on nothing more than rumour and assumptions.

Keep Calm and Carry On - SA is a valuable player that retains my full support. As do Hibs

GGTTH

I agree and I also think his should come out and make a point of boycotting these Muppet journos and the rags they work for

[emerald green]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

[Weststandwanab]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

I would second that without hesitation.

[brog]

You're only saying that because you make BH look like a happy clapper!

[steviehibsleith]

Couldn't agree more BF it's tiresome...he claims apathy on all things Hibs but yet never stops posting negative posts on here??
Unfortunately if you look at how Hibs have performed in recent times and what league we find ourselves in I myself find it extremely difficult to make posts without being negative. This isn't because im negative its simply a reflection of what i see and what is happening to my team.

[Del Boy]

Excellent article.

[hibees 7062]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

Great read

[Lago]

Allan didn't post the photo - a sevco players friend did and Clark retweeted it. Those beer mugs are definitely German also - any bar in Edinburgh or Glasgow serve beer like that ?

Anyone bored of this nonsense ? so many rumours - nonsense opinions and people jumping to conclusions.

I'm sure there are some undercover Huns stirring things up on this forum also.
Agree, time dialled the whole thing down, playing into Warburton's hands.

[Billy Whizz]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

[B.H.F.C]

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

I'd say that's when you need a strong captain. big week for David Gray especially after the result yesterday.

[greenlex]

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

Cannae see Fyvvie taking any crap from anyone. Mind when Malonga shot from 35 yards against Hearts.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Petulant boy and reinforces Stubbs and Dempsters' position if anything else.

[hibees 7062]

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

The captain would

[Libby Hibby]

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

I'd guess that this has already happened as been alluded to by Scoopy on Friday...my guess Gray, Fontaine, Fyvie and perhaps even Oxley will be influential characters in the dressing room and will probably not be happy with what is happening at the club they have just signed for

[Baldy Foghorn]

There comes a point were some need to take a leap of faith, yes we have all seen bad times, but I genuinely believe we are heading in the right direction.

Things appear to be much more positive at the Club, some just don't want to embrace the changes, and are happy to wallow in the past failures.....

[iwasthere1972]

Far too many folk on here being influenced as intended by the Rangers and west coast PR machine. Turning Hibs against SA then working on splitting the Hibs fans against him.

Same old same routine - seen it all before with Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson and others before that. Old firm likely with Agents agitating things with leaks and influencing west coast based media to cover "we understand...." type coverage. Far too many folk falling for it and playing exactly into the intended hands of Rangers

I'll stay calm and trust in Stubbs and Dempster for now and I'll certainly not be contributing to the abuse some are starting to give SA based on nothing more than rumour and assumptions.

Keep Calm and Carry On - SA is a valuable player that retains my full support. As do Hibs

GGTTH


I agree. Don't panic Captain Mainwaring.

[Number69]

Picture on Facebook with him and the rangers team out in a club. I can't upload it from my phone unfortunately.

[givescotlandfreedom]

There comes a point were some need to take a leap of faith, yes we have all seen bad times, but I genuinely believe we are heading in the right direction.

Things appear to be much more positive at the Club, some just don't want to embrace the changes, and are happy to wallow in the past failures.....

Wrong thread?

[Billy Whizz]

There comes a point were some need to take a leap of faith, yes we have all seen bad times, but I genuinely believe we are heading in the right direction.

Things appear to be much more positive at the Club, some just don't want to embrace the changes, and are happy to wallow in the past failures.....

We need to put Saturday aside, hard as it maybe. Think we can have a great season, but need to get off to a great start in the league. Stubbs said in his BBC post match interview that his priorities in ranking order are, 1) League, 2) Scottish Cup, 3) League Cup, 4) Petrofac Cup

[bingo70]

I'd guess that this has already happened as been alluded to by Scoopy on Friday...my guess Gray, Fontaine, Fyvie and perhaps even Oxley will be influential characters in the dressing room and will probably not be happy with what is happening at the club they have just signed for

Not sure having a group of players ganging up on one player (even if he's in the wrong) is a good thing.

Imo something as complicated as this needs to be dealt with by the management team and if they're unable to do so then they need to isolate him so he can't have a negative influence on the rest of the squad.

[Mikey09]

I'd guess that this has already happened as been alluded to by Scoopy on Friday...my guess Gray, Fontaine, Fyvie and perhaps even Oxley will be influential characters in the dressing room and will probably not be happy with what is happening at the club they have just signed for


And to a manager they respect... :agree:

[J-C]

Not sure having a group of players ganging up on one player (even if he's in the wrong) is a good thing.

Imo something as complicated as this needs to be dealt with by the management team and if they're unable to do so then they need to isolate him so he can't have a negative influence on the rest of the squad.


It's common for either captain and/or certain players to have a word with others in the squad, there's been a feel good factor at Hibs last season and now because of one player it's gone. Some of these players would've signed on knowing Allan was here as he is a top quality player, Stubbs has a vision and Allan is part of that vision, a vision these players would've bought into.

[3pm]

Not sure having a group of players ganging up on one player (even if he's in the wrong) is a good thing.

Imo something as complicated as this needs to be dealt with by the management team and if they're unable to do so then they need to isolate him so he can't have a negative influence on the rest of the squad.

It doesn't have to be a 'gang up'. They can all speak to each other in a civil manner.

I do agree that ultimately it's down to Stubbs though.

[JCHibby]

I'd guess that this has already happened as been alluded to by Scoopy on Friday...my guess Gray, Fontaine, Fyvie and perhaps even Oxley will be influential characters in the dressing room and will probably not be happy with what is happening at the club they have just signed for

I hope so.. Wouldn't mind one of them giving him a old school dull one to remind him of who pays his bills currently

[matty_f]

Not sure having a group of players ganging up on one player (even if he's in the wrong) is a good thing.

Imo something as complicated as this needs to be dealt with by the management team and if they're unable to do so then they need to isolate him so he can't have a negative influence on the rest of the squad.

I think they need a combination of positive influences within the dressing room to help manage the situation. Ganging up is never a good thing, nobody should be looking to bully him into submission, however strong and supportive words from influential people will help make the situation manageable.

If Scott gets made to feel more isolated than he allegedly already is, then if and when Hibs do dig their heels in he's going to find himself really struggling to build bridges and that will make getting on with things difficult.

Scott's position isn't yet untenable at Hibs, there is a positive future for him here if the club handle this well.

[Scotchmist]

Nah, if you look closely they're left handed steins. The bier Halle uses right handed ones exclusively.

Ha ha. Woo hoo. Got to thank you Liam for getting a wee laugh in on this thread. Was getting a wee bit depressed.
:scarf:

[Heisenberg]

The photo seems to be from this weekend after all. Another place in Glasgow has stuck a photo up of them all out this weekend wearing the exact same clothes. Allan and his beloved Huns are trying there best to get this move to happen, ****bags.

[Spudster]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

:aok:

[bingo70]

It doesn't have to be a 'gang up'. They can all speak to each other in a civil manner.

I do agree that ultimately it's down to Stubbs though.

Ganging up was the wrong phrase, I think my concern is it creates a divide in the group between anyone who's pals with Allan and the players who are trying to get him to pull his weight. Right now we've got one disgruntled player, it could take good managerial abilities to turn him round, having a couple of players going in heavy handed could have the opposite effect.

[Jim44]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

Good for you Moira. I hope the ungrateful young gentleman and his aggravating agent have a close look at it. If they've got half a brain between them they'll realise they have no power.

[Greenworld]

The little maestro is going nowhere unless we decide. I Quite like being with my mates too but unfortunately this is business so scotty your going to have to grow a pair.....your not going where u want to......on another note I have heard the stubbs will walk away from hibs if he does go to rangers. Strong words

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[Sir David Gray]

The photo seems to be from this weekend after all. Another place in Glasgow has stuck a photo up of them all out this weekend wearing the exact same clothes. Allan and his beloved Huns are trying there best to get this move to happen, ****bags.

It's disappointing if that photo's from last night.

Poor show from Allan.

[bill the hibby]

The little maestro is going nowhere unless we decide. I Quite like being with my mates too but unfortunately this is business so scotty your going to have to grow a pair.....your not going where u want to......on another note I have heard the stubbs will walk away from hibs if he does go to rangers. Strong words

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And so he should, along with many others. Would be suicide for the club to sell him to them.

[J-C]

The little maestro is going nowhere unless we decide. I Quite like being with my mates too but unfortunately this is business so scotty your going to have to grow a pair.....your not going where u want to......on another note I have heard the stubbs will walk away from hibs if he does go to rangers. Strong words

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And I wouldn't blame him.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Chamberlain tried to appease the hun in the '30s, look at how that turned out.

Send the small boy to play with the U20s until he appologises.

[Jim44]

I would have total respect for Stubbs if he resigned over this fiasco. I would have not one ounce of respect for the club if they cause it to happen.

[AlbertK86]

Good read, but wonder who in the dressing room will tell him get his finger out and get on with it

Think there will be a few likely to make their feelings known


Big "Jonny" Fontaine
Fyvie
Gray
Cummings - but probably not in the most productive way

[Future17]

Chamberlain tried to appease the hun in the '30s, look at how that turned out.

Send the small boy to play with the U20s until he appologises.

Our piece of paper is worth more than his was. :greengrin

[JCHibby]

It's disappointing if that photo's from last night.

Poor show from Allan.

I would fine him, if Allan wanted to close the book on this he could simply make a statement and all this goes away, the fact he has been silent shows exactly what he wants.

Disgusting way to behave.

[givescotlandfreedom]

I would have total respect for Stubbs if he resigned over this fiasco. I would have not one ounce of respect for the club if they cause it to happen.

The club has backed Stubbs totally here.

[HoboHarry]

I would have total respect for Stubbs if he resigned over this fiasco. I would have not one ounce of respect for the club if they cause it to happen.
Resign on what grounds?

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Our piece of paper is worth more than his was. :greengrin

:greengrin

I'd get a hold of something else in our hand and squeeze it very tightly...

[Baldy Foghorn]

Give me something positive and I am as positive as the next person. Remember the last time we did anything of note, finishing 4th and qualifications for Europe through our seasons play. I think you will find I was one of only a few who were happy with that achievement. In fact the guy who is having a go was quite happy to stick the boot in then. When we punch our weight, I'm more than happy.

Wondered how long it would take.....Let's not pretend Yogi was a footballing genius (fitba folk ken), his style of football was awful on the eye, made some bad decisions like most managers.....Would you take Cregg and McBride in our midfield these days?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Wrong thread?

Is it, let me know where I should post it, much obliged:rolleyes:

[lochhibs]

Resign on what grounds?
lack of ambition

[Mathias Jack]

Sorry but how? He's on a night out with his mates for someones birthday

Even if it his for his mates birthday, considering the events of the last week, it's highly inappropriate.

If you can't see that, you need your head read mate.

[HoboHarry]

lack of ambition
From whom? Because an unhappy player wants to leave?

[Greenworld]

The club has backed Stubbs totally here.
They have indeed this ironically could be a game changer for hibs...I am actually quite excited it may lead to a few better signings


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[SteveHFC]

I would have total respect for Stubbs if he resigned over this fiasco. I would have not one ounce of respect for the club if they cause it to happen.

This.

Stubbs is trying his best for the club and he doesn't need this carry on going on.

[jacomo]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/moira-gordon-hibs-decision-based-on-sound-football-sense-1-3841125

Above is a good article.

I like this. Fighting talk.

Look at it this way. If SA doesn't go to Sevco, Dave 'over-investment' King is going to have some explaining to do to the hordes.

Let's turn the tables on these f***ers.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Is it, let me know where I should post it, much obliged:rolleyes:

Calm down. kitten.

[AlbertK86]

The club has backed Stubbs totally here.

100% Correct

If they don't I suspect HSL subscriptions will be cancelled and further season ticket sales will be non existent

However I'm confident Leean. Will back Stubbsy.

Allan either moves elsewhere for a big fee or eats humble pie, shows he's a professional and earns a move at the end of the season.

If he chooses the sevconians at the end of the season then he chooses them but for now he ain't going there.

He is better than their level so it would lack ambition

Scott stick to your original ambition of making it down south

Whichever way it goes once everyone's fit and McGeoch has resigned we're winning the league with or without him

GGTTH

[Baldy Foghorn]

Calm down. kitten.

kitten? Are you for real???

[Hibeesmad]

HIbs considering a £500,000 offer plus Dylan McGeough from Celtic according to a Celtic mate studying sports journalism

[Geo_1875]

I would fine him, if Allan wanted to close the book on this he could simply make a statement and all this goes away, the fact he has been silent shows exactly what he wants.

Disgusting way to behave.

He may be silent just now but his last statement was that he was happy to stay. Have you heard anything different?

[marinello59]

Wondered how long it would take.....Let's not pretend Yogi was a footballing genius (fitba folk ken), his style of football was awful on the eye, made some bad decisions like most managers.....Would you take Cregg and McBride in our midfield these days?

Anybody who was at Yogi's last match in charge of us at St Johnstone would be well aware of his limitations. I don't think I have ever been so angry at a Hibs manager's inability to react to what was happening on the pitch as I was that day.

[givescotlandfreedom]

kitten? Are you for real???

:shotdowni

[Baldy Foghorn]

Anybody who was at Yogi's last match in charge of us at St Johnstone would be well aware of his limitations. I don't think I have ever been so angry at a Hibs manager's inability to react to what was happening on the pitch as I was that day.

Exactly, I was shouting at him that day, to change things, and someone pulled me up for shouting at a "legend":cb

[Greenworld]

HIbs considering a £500,000 offer plus Dylan McGeough from Celtic according to a Celtic mate studying sports journalism
That would be amazing

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[Baldy Foghorn]

HIbs considering a £500,000 offer plus Dylan McGeough from Celtic according to a Celtic mate studying sports journalism

SA can refuse to go though, his choice ultimately

[SteveHFC]

That would be amazing

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Would take that right now. Pay the whatever is needed for McGinn from that and we're sorted. :aok:

[S4uzee]

That would be amazing

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I'd personally rather about £800,000 - £1 mil plus mcgeouch if Celtic paid £1.5mil for Ciftci

[Greenworld]

Would take that right now. Pay the whatever is needed for McGinn from that and we're sorted. :aok:
100%AGREE

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[dp00]

Anyone saw the latest Twitter picture , out with the Rangers team after our defeat

Stick him in the reserves for a season


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[Billy Whizz]

HIbs considering a £500,000 offer plus Dylan McGeough from Celtic according to a Celtic mate studying sports journalism

I could be wrong, but don't think Celtic will be buying anyone until they know if they are in the Champions/Europa League

[SteveHFC]

Rangers fans are now going through his old photos on twitter and Instagram :faf:

[JCHibby]

He may be silent just now but his last statement was that he was happy to stay. Have you heard anything different?

I haven't, but he hasn't said much in the last week, when he could have. My personal view is I didn't like his attitude at the end of th game nor the photo that's doing the rounds. Lack of respect to his current employer. I hope this Celtic 500k plus Dylan is true...

[3pm]

SA can refuse to go though, his choice ultimately

As I mentioned to you yesterday, he can sign a pre-contract in a 120 days. It's not long to wait. If he's not allowed to go now, I reckon he'll sit it out.

[Baldy Foghorn]

As I mentioned to you yesterday, he can sign a pre-contract in a 120 days. It's not long to wait. If he's not allowed to go now, I reckon he'll sit it out.

:aok:

[matty_f]

Anyone saw the latest Twitter picture , out with the Rangers team after our defeat

Stick him in the reserves for a season


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He might have gone to the night out with the club's consent.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Exactly, I was shouting at him that day, to change things, and someone pulled me up for shouting at a "legend":cb

Do you give him any credit for what he has achieved at ICT?

[lochhibs]

From whom? Because an unhappy player wants to leave?
because the club said he wouldnt be sold

[SteveHFC]

https://twitter.com/Durrantyjr/status/625373548631166976

[Barney McGrew]

This.

Stubbs is trying his best for the club and he doesn't need this carry on going on.

How do you suggest Hibs stop it then?

[OsloHibs]

Absolutely disloyal to his team mates. This I do not understand?

Well done to the Hibs ladies today :thumbsup:

[Heisenberg]

https://twitter.com/Durrantyjr/status/625373548631166976

Allan is showing no respect to the club or manager that gave him a chance. **** him. You won't be at Sevco this season Scotty, deal with it.

[dp00]

Correct he is free to go on a night out with mates , but it is disrespectful to go out with mates who play for a team who just beat us 6-2 on top of that team mates from a team who are trying to sign you .... His behaviour at the end of game was shocking and this is even worse. Still hope hibs stand firm and don't sell him

Wonder how his team mates feel about this ?


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[SteveHFC]

Allan is showing no respect to the club or manager that gave him a chance. **** him. You won't be at Sevco this season Scotty, deal with it.

Agreed let him rot in the west stand this season. **** him :aok:

[HoboHarry]

because the club said he wouldnt be sold
They have stated clearly they will not sell to Rangers. Do you for one minute think that AS would not agree to the sale of Allan (not to Rangers of course) if he believed he was going to have an increase in budget from the transfer fee? No manager wants an unhappy player and it would be better if he went now rather than one week from the end of the transfer window.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Absolutely disloyal to his team mates. I do not understand this?

It is the hun mentality.

[3pm]

Agreed let him rot in the west stand this season. **** him :aok:

And how are we going to finance a replacement with pish crowds?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Do you give him any credit for what he has achieved at ICT?

I support Hibs, don't care about other teams or other achievements......

[Baldy Foghorn]

Agreed let him rot in the west stand this season. **** him :aok:

He is meant to be our best player. If he stays why should we not play him, don't understand your logic?

[NOLA]

IF he doesnt want to be here then sell him now, have his replacement lined up to sign and its not so bad, if we sell and are knocking about for weeks looking at a replacement cue an angry support backlash

[dp00]

He is meant to be our best player. If he stays why should we not play him, don't understand your logic?

It's clear from all his actions he ain't interested


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[Baldy Foghorn]

It's clear from all his actions he ain't interested


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So he wouldn't try in games?

[NOLA]

He is meant to be our best player. If he stays why should we not play him, don't understand your logic?
cos hewont try a leg knowing that dream move is months away

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

I support Hibs, don't care about other teams or other achievements......

That's a narrow perspective.

[Jim44]

He might have gone to the night out with the club's consent.

Matty, do you seriously expect us to share your altruism? I'd like to think
your tongue is firmly lodged in your cheek.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

He might have gone to the night out with the club's consent.

"Hi Leeanne, ok if I go on the bevvy wi the huns the night"

"Aye, ok. On ye go buddy"

[dp00]

First think in the morning the club need to make a clear statement on our stance... This whole thing is ruining the positive atmosphere we had around the club and the start of the season


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[Baldy Foghorn]

That's a narrow perspective.

Oh sorry:rolleyes:

[Jim44]

He is meant to be our best player. If he stays why should we not play him, don't understand your logic?

Agreed. As long as the management, his colleagues and supporters are comfortable if he chooses to spend a big chunk of his life sleeping with the enemy. Personally I find his subtlety bypass quite disturbing and 'in your face' aggressive.

[Blaster]

First think in the morning the club need to make a clear statement on our stance... This whole thing is ruining the positive atmosphere we had around the club and the start of the season


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Not sure how much clearer they can be. They've said all they need to say

[Scouse Hibee]

First think in the morning the club need to make a clear statement on our stance... This whole thing is ruining the positive atmosphere we had around the club and the start of the season


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How many times do you need the club to say something? It's been said however the speculation will continue.

[greenlex]

Scott. Brown regularly out with the dirty Hun Kevin Thomson during the speculation he was signing for Rangers. How'd that work out?

[dp00]

How many times do you need the club to say something? It's been said however the speculation will continue.

Since the last statement we put him on the bench against them, he hugged various rangers players at the end of the game ignoring some team mates and then a few hours later found it acceptable to go out with rangers players ( granted they are his mates)

He is showing the club, fans and his team mates no respect


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[blackpoolhibs]

Wondered how long it would take.....Let's not pretend Yogi was a footballing genius (fitba folk ken), his style of football was awful on the eye, made some bad decisions like most managers.....Would you take Cregg and McBride in our midfield these days?

So it's fine to slate the team when it finishes 4th in the top league, but when it's spending it's second season in the second tier it's time to be all jolly.

[Baldy Foghorn]

So it's fine to slate the team when it finishes 4th in the top league, but when it's spending it's second season in the second tier it's time to be all jolly.

Is it fine to constantly slate the team, although you have given up the ghost?

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

So it's fine to slate the team when it finishes 4th in the top league, but when it's spending it's second season in the second tier it's time to be all jolly.

That's some screwed up logic :agree:

[Baldy Foghorn]

That's some screwed up logic :agree:

Do you know what context it was taken? BH has an agenda, just you believe what he says, without knowing the full facts behind the story

[hibbymick]

When he goes whether its this year or next i hope big marvin launches him into row z when he gets the chance. Allan is turning into a disrespectful little pr**k.

[db03]

Scott Allan out drinking with his mates!
So what, I go out drinking with my mates who are Jambos. The way in which he has dealt with this situation seems poor to me, By that I mean he knows what reaction getting the pic taken would cause.
I was told last night that his agent was told he is not welcome at Easter road anymore. Anyone else hear that?

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Do you know what context it was taken? BH has an agenda, just you believe what he says, without knowing the full facts behind the story

In Context, Yogi's sitting looking at his SC winners medal on his mantelpiece, and we are squabbling about our second season in the second tier following a 6-2 humping by the hun.

[Baldy Foghorn]

In Context, Yogi's sitting looking at his SC winners medal on his mantelpiece, and we are squabbling about our second season in the second tier following a 6-2 humping by the hun.

Great:aok:

[3pm]

Scott Allan out drinking with his mates!
So what, I go out drinking with my mates who are Jambos.

Yer probably lucky you're ***** at football then. :greengrin

[Northernhibee]

So it's fine to slate the team when it finishes 4th in the top league, but when it's spending it's second season in the second tier it's time to be all jolly.

With the start we had to that season we should have finished much better than 4th.

[db03]

Yer probably lucky you're ***** at football then. :greengrin

You are spot on 😂

[Lago]

Well rangers have got just what they want hibs supporters at each others throats judging by the last couple of pages on this post.

[SMAXXA]

I would have total respect for Stubbs if he resigned over this fiasco. I would have not one ounce of respect for the club if they cause it to happen.

One of thee craziest things I've read for a long time. The manger resigning because a player may force the clubs hand and for one he could do one for me if he didn't want to be here.

When did Hibernian fc become second fiddle to a jumped up footballer who may or may not want to be at the club. It's simple, if he wants to move on **** him and let him, we are bigger than any player and in sure Alan Stubbs will be the one that will make the final decision here. Alan won't be the first and won't be the last to let fans down they want to keep a player but let's not bring the manager and his future into things.

[SaulGoodman]

Well rangers have got just what they want hibs supporters at each others throats judging by the last couple of pages on this post.

Shut up you know nothing.








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[coco22]

Well rangers have got just what they want hibs supporters at each others throats judging by the last couple of pages on this post.

Exactly. By the looks of things, Allan will leave the club very soon (with little dignity or respect IMO). We, however, will still be here. Aye, maybe counting the costs of his departure but let's not let him / Huns score, again, against us by creating further troubles amongst the support

[Jim44]

Well rangers have got just what they want hibs supporters at each others throats judging by the last couple of pages on this post.

They've got some of what they wanted but they haven't got the item at the top of their shopping list.

[leithsansiro]

Can't be arsed looking through the whole thread, but are folk really surprised by SA's attitude in all this fiasco? He's got form for it from his DU days, jumping ship at the first chance of a "bigger club" after a massive 8 first team games.

Hibs are bigger than one player. Always have been, always will be.

[matty_f]

Matty, do you seriously expect us to share your altruism? I'd like to think
your tongue is firmly lodged in your cheek.

It was indeed.

[majorhibs]

Scottie will either go to the Huns or he won't.

My point is at the end of all this it's time Hibs threw the toys out the pram and stopped dealing with the papers and the channels that fuelled this whole farrago. They do **** all in the way of positive stories. With channels like the Hibs Web Site, boards like this and others, the fans will get to hear what's going on. Ban them, don't let the journalists have access to the players or the club. STV etc have done all the work for The Rangers - so don't give them the time of day. It's not as if it's going to affect the home gate is it?
I appreciate our current sponsors might throw a wobbly but it's not as if we were wall to wall highlights last year and getting back to the top league guarantees us about 4 minutes of highlights each week - which won't change with the ban.

Bang on! To eff with the lot of them. BBC & STV should be shown the door. We know its biased. They know its biased. Adios. Goodbye. No more leaning towards your favourites. See ya. :na na:

[blackpoolhibs]

Do you know what context it was taken? BH has an agenda, just you believe what he says, without knowing the full facts behind the story


Hahahaha, and what would that agenda be? :confused:

[My_Wife_Camille]

I support Hibs, don't care about other teams or other achievements......
I actually like Yogi but I couldn't agree more here. Narrow minded or not!

[blackpoolhibs]

With the start we had to that season we should have finished much better than 4th.

Which would have been even better, when the team punches its weight you will get no arguments from me, if it did better than that i'd be ecstatic.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Hahahaha, and what would that agenda be? :confused:

To slate everything the Club does....If your so apathetic to Hibs, why contribute on here with constant negativity? If I was that way inclined, I would find something that made me happier.....

[blackpoolhibs]

To slate everything the Club does....If your so apathetic to Hibs, why contribute on here with constant negativity? If I was that way inclined, I would find something that made me happier.....

Where am i slating everything the club does?

Who are you to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't be doing, just because you would do it different?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Where am i slating everything the club does?

Who are you to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't be doing, just because you would do it different?

Who am I? Someone who finds constant negativity of something I adore, completely tiresome.....

[21.05.2016]

Can't be arsed looking through the whole thread, but are folk really surprised by SA's attitude in all this fiasco? He's got form for it from his DU days, jumping ship at the first chance of a "bigger club" after a massive 8 first team games.

Hibs are bigger than one player. Always have been, always will be.

Didn't he leave Dundee Utd in a huff because he wasn't the highest paid player?

[blackpoolhibs]

Who am I? Someone who finds constant negativity of something I adore, completely tiresome.....

Yet when you did it it was fine, i see where you are coming from now.

[magnificent_seven]

The photo is definitely from Bier Halle in Glasgow. Another pub in Glasgow called Nicos also posted a picture of them all.

Catch 22 for Hibs now. After I seen that tonight, I would not be sorry to see the back of him now. He is acting like a total diddy.

[majorhibs]

Correct he is free to go on a night out with mates , but it is disrespectful to go out with mates who play for a team who just beat us 6-2 on top of that team mates from a team who are trying to sign you .... His behaviour at the end of game was shocking and this is even worse. Still hope hibs stand firm and don't sell him

Wonder how his team mates feel about this ?


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Spot on. I was gutted by that. I really liked this guy as a player before. I really did. But that? With huns? After theyve just beat us 6-2? Nah I am falling out of love with Hibs if this is where we are going.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Yet when you did it it was fine, i see where you are coming from now.

When I criticised, I never walked away from Hibs, big difference. Anyhow, I'm out, no point wasting anymore bandwidth arguing.

[hibees 7062]

Didn't he leave Dundee Utd in a huff because he wasn't the highest paid player?

It was reported that he was asking for £1,600 per week, which would have made him the third highest earner at the club.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Spot on. I was gutted by that. I really liked this guy as a player before. I really did. But that? With huns? After theyve just beat us 6-2? Nah I am falling out of love with Hibs if this is where we are going.

Major, whats it got to do with Hibs, if SA chooses to drink with his friends? It is SA trying to manufacture a deal, nothing more Hibs can say or do.....

[blackpoolhibs]

When I criticised, I never walked away from Hibs, big difference. Anyhow, I'm out, no point wasting anymore bandwidth arguing.


Well done you.

[hibees 7062]

The photo is definitely from Bier Halle in Glasgow. Another pub in Glasgow called Nicos also posted a picture of them all.

Catch 22 for Hibs now. After I seen that tonight, I would not be sorry to see the back of him now. He is acting like a total diddy.

It's in the Record now

[jacomo]

The photo is definitely from Bier Halle in Glasgow. Another pub in Glasgow called Nicos also posted a picture of them all.

Catch 22 for Hibs now. After I seen that tonight, I would not be sorry to see the back of him now. He is acting like a total diddy.


Spot on. I was gutted by that. I really liked this guy as a player before. I really did. But that? With huns? After theyve just beat us 6-2? Nah I am falling out of love with Hibs if this is where we are going.

Folks, it's clear that SA has had his head turned. It's no great surprise is it?

However, he's our player and he could help us achieve something this season. Let's not throw the towel in. If he's here after the window shuts, he will play for us.

[21.05.2016]

Major, whats it got to do with Hibs, if SA chooses to drink with his friends? It is SA trying to manufacture a deal, nothing more Hibs can say or do.....

:agree: Not hibs fault.

[majorhibs]

Which would have been even better, when the team punches its weight you will get no arguments from me, if it did better than that i'd be ecstatic.

With that statement, as youve stated for years, you win all arguments anywhere. The one downside to what you say is - Petrie - the reason all of our Hibs have been so mediocre for so long. We all know this. We all want -at the least - to be punching our weight - but we are languishing - just get Hibs back to where we belong then naebody can moan - but right now ??

[magnificent_seven]

There is having your head turned and then there is sticking two fingers up. Friends or no friends with the Rangers boys, that is a complete lack of respect from SA. There is a reason why he isn't playing at the top level and it certainly isn't because of his ability. If he helps us get up this season, great. But if Celtic come in with 400k and McGeouch, Hibs should bite their hand off.


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[bill the hibby]

If the picture was from last night then I don't think he should pull on a hibs shirt again imo, no respect for the club or its fans...no one individual is bigger than the club. There have been better before him and there will be better to come.

[magnificent_seven]

If Hibs do sell him now. I for one will not be disappointed with the way that the club have dealt with things. He is making the club look like mugs. Nothing Hibs can control here.


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[Baldy Foghorn]

There is having your head turned and then there is sticking two fingers up. Friends or no friends with the Rangers boys, that is a complete lack of respect from SA. There is a reason why he isn't playing at the top level and it certainly isn't because of his ability. If he helps us get up this season, great. But if Celtic come in with 400k and McGeouch, Hibs should bite their hand off.


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And if SA doesn't want to join Celtic, he stays with us......We need to remember he could still be our player come the end of window, and we may require him to play his best for us thereafter....

[Unseen work]

What did he do at the end of the game that has gotten people so wound up?

as for the photo I don't care. Him and Halliday have been best mates since they were bairns, the fact 2 rangers players are in the photo doesn't make a difference to me, they are all around the same age and I'm sure have met each other a lot before from football. A lot of our players like Stanton,Forster, handling etc are all mates with the hearts players like Nicholson and walker.

the only thing in this that disappoints me if he leaves for them is the fact he could get a really good English team IMO. But the offer of playing for the team you grew up supporting, with your best pal on decent money is something he has probably dreamed of for years.

[Jim44]

Major, whats it got to do with Hibs, if SA chooses to drink with his friends? It is SA trying to manufacture a deal, nothing more Hibs can say or do.....

Is he really so thick to think that his ludicrous behaviour is going to result in Hibs washing their hands of him and handing him over to Sevco for a pittance they cant even afford? He's in for a big disappointment.

[Baldy Foghorn]

What did he do at the end of the game that has gotten people so wound up?

as for the photo I don't care. Him and Halliday have been best mates since they were bairns, the fact 2 rangers players are in the photo doesn't make a difference to me, they are all around the same age and I'm sure have met each other a lot before from football. A lot of our players like Stanton,Forster, handling etc are all mates with the hearts players like Nicholson and walker.

the only thing in this that disappoints me if he leaves for them is the fact he could get a really good English team IMO. But the offer of playing for the team you grew up supporting, with your best pal on decent money is something he has probably dreamed of for years.

SA can dream all he want's when he signs a pre-contract with them in January...Until then he needs to sort his head out, and concentrate on his football

[Northernhibee]

What did he do at the end of the game that has gotten people so wound up?

as for the photo I don't care. Him and Halliday have been best mates since they were bairns, the fact 2 rangers players are in the photo doesn't make a difference to me, they are all around the same age and I'm sure have met each other a lot before from football. A lot of our players like Stanton,Forster, handling etc are all mates with the hearts players like Nicholson and walker.

the only thing in this that disappoints me if he leaves for them is the fact he could get a really good English team IMO. But the offer of playing for the team you grew up supporting, with your best pal on decent money is something he has probably dreamed of for years.

If it wasn't for us taking a big chance on a player who caused bad feeling at one club then struggled for football at another he'd never have had the opportunity to go and play for Sevco. We deserve respect from him and he's not returning it.

[21.05.2016]

If it wasn't for us taking a big chance on a player who caused bad feeling at one club then struggled for football at another he'd never have had the opportunity to and play for Sevco. We deserve respect from him and he's not returning it.

Exactly. Stubbs must be feeling really let down.

[magnificent_seven]

And if SA doesn't want to join Celtic, he stays with us......We need to remember he could still be our player come the end of window, and we may require him to play his best for us thereafter....

He could easily quadruple his wages with Celtic and would have a chance at CL football. Only an idiot would turn that down. Mind you, going by recent events it doesn't look like the lad is the sharpest knife in the drawer.


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[Jim44]

What did he do at the end of the game that has gotten people so wound up?

as for the photo I don't care. Him and Halliday have been best mates since they were bairns, the fact 2 rangers players are in the photo doesn't make a difference to me, they are all around the same age and I'm sure have met each other a lot before from football. A lot of our players like Stanton,Forster, handling etc are all mates with the hearts players like Nicholson and walker.

the only thing in this that disappoints me if he leaves for them is the fact he could get a really good English team IMO. But the offer of playing for the team you grew up supporting, with your best pal on decent money is something he has probably dreamed of for years.

:violin:

[jacomo]

And if SA doesn't want to join Celtic, he stays with us......We need to remember he could still be our player come the end of window, and we may require him to play his best for us thereafter....

:agree:

Spot on. Right now I'm not convinced there's anyone better out there, so I want SA to stay thanks.

Does anyone really think he'd spend a year one the stands? A few weeks huff maybe, and he'd be desperate to get back playing football again.

[jacomo]

If it wasn't for us taking a big chance on a player who caused bad feeling at one club then struggled for football at another he'd never have had the opportunity to go and play for Sevco. We deserve respect from him and he's not returning it.

He's not said anything in public about wanting to leave though, has he?

I'd suggest that shows respect.

[Del Boy]

If that picture is from last night he should never play for the club again.

After all that's gone on for the last week and then the result yesterday he is utterly taking the pi55 if he thinks that is acceptable.

[Unseen work]

If it wasn't for us taking a big chance on a player who caused bad feeling at one club then struggled for football at another he'd never have had the opportunity to go and play for Sevco. We deserve respect from him and he's not returning it.

What has he done that is being disrespectful? I wasn't at the game on Saturday so can't judge based on that. But from what I can see in interviews he hasn't said anything wrong and the transfer request is paper talk? He hasn't publically came out and said anything

[21.05.2016]

If that picture is from last night he should never play for the club again.

After all that's gone on for the last week and then the result yesterday he is utterly taking the pi55 if he thinks that is acceptable.

Someone on twitter has said its a picture from a few months ago when he was in Germany with his mates for the champions league final.

[JJP]

:agree:

Spot on. Right now I'm not convinced there's anyone better out there, so I want SA to stay thanks.

Does anyone really think he'd spend a year one the stands? A few weeks huff maybe, and he'd be desperate to get back playing football again.

What message does that send to the younger players coming through at Hibs? If your good enough feel free to disrespect the club and its supporters when you fancy moving on. Scott Allan is classless and should never have been welcomed here in the first place. I hope in future we won't pick up players who have already behaved in this manor because he's done it before at Dundee United.

[Unseen work]

If that picture is from last night he should never play for the club again.

After all that's gone on for the last week and then the result yesterday he is utterly taking the pi55 if he thinks that is acceptable.

Out on a Saturday night with his best mates and 2 rangers players happen to appear in one photo with him? I don't see any issue

[Del Boy]

Someone on twitter has said its a picture from a few months ago when he was in Germany with his mates for the champions league final.

Ok fair enough, was hoping he couldn't be so stupid.

[21.05.2016]

Ok fair enough, was hoping he couldn't be so stupid.

I don't know for certain, thats just what someone has suggested on twitter. Like you, I hope he hasn't been so stupid.

[Jim44]

He's not said anything in public about wanting to leave though, has he?

I'd suggest that shows respect.

I'd suggest it shows deviousness and deceit. He's boxing clever. He's doing things to upset and antagonise folk but stopping short of declaring his hand in public. He's hoping, in vain, that his antics will do the job, but he's doing it subtlely enough so that if his plan fails and he has to hang around ER for a season, his life won't be too much of a misery. That's my theory anyway. I respect the few guys on here who are trying to explain away his behaviour but I really think it's amounting to whitewashing.

[magpie1892]

Someone on twitter has said its a picture from a few months ago when he was in Germany with his mates for the champions league final.

Except it's Bier Halle in Glasgow from last night, as was established several pages ago.

[matty_f]

I'd suggest it shows deviousness and deceit. He's boxing clever. He's doing things to upset and antagonise folk but stopping short of declaring his hand in public. He's hoping, in vain, that his antics will do the job, but he's doing it subtlely enough so that if his plan fails and he has to hang around ER for a season, his life won't be too much of a misery. That's my theory anyway. I respect the few guys on here who are trying to explain away his behaviour but I really think it's amounting to whitewashing.

I don't think anyone can explain away his behaviour, it's fairly obvious that he's working his ticket now.

[coco22]

Scotty no handing in a transfer request as he wants his cut of the fee.

[Jim44]

Someone on twitter has said its a picture from a few months ago when he was in Germany with his mates for the champions league final.

Previous post on this thread:

The photo is definitely from Bier Halle in Glasgow. Another pub in Glasgow called Nicos also posted a picture of them all.

[silverhibee]

He's not said anything in public about wanting to leave though, has he?

I'd suggest that shows respect.

Not in public, No.

[silverhibee]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/hibs-fans-furious-scott-allan-6144286

[CB_NO3]

Allan is acting like a little prick here. Simple as that. He has spat the dummy out after Stubbs made a fool out of him at training for not trying. Pathetic that a talented player like him wants to join Rangers. Fan or no fan. His ambition should be Derby County's and Nottingham Forest. Clubs like that who can pay 10k a week.

[greenginger]

He's not said anything in public about wanting to leave though, has he?

I'd suggest that shows respect.


Scott Allan is not saying anything because it is a clear breach of the SPFL rules for a player under contract to make any kind of communication with the object of negotiating a transfer for himself.

The Rangers would never condone such behavior .

[Hannah_hfc]

What did he do at the end of the game that has gotten people so wound up?

as for the photo I don't care. Him and Halliday have been best mates since they were bairns, the fact 2 rangers players are in the photo doesn't make a difference to me, they are all around the same age and I'm sure have met each other a lot before from football. A lot of our players like Stanton,Forster, handling etc are all mates with the hearts players like Nicholson and walker.

the only thing in this that disappoints me if he leaves for them is the fact he could get a really good English team IMO. But the offer of playing for the team you grew up supporting, with your best pal on decent money is something he has probably dreamed of for years.
http://www.snspix.com/25-07-15-hibernian-v-rangers/photo/127961.html

If the link works there's a good few pics of Allan being pally with his new Sevco pals.

I've stated before, he knows fine well what he's doing.

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[magnificent_seven]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/26/e3bfa45c2201698717efc56e7c75a0e8.jpg

This guy is the chief football writer for the Sunday Mail. So very professional. Should never trust that rag of a newspaper.


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[Unseen work]

Allan is acting like a little prick here. Simple as that. He has spat the dummy out after Stubbs made a fool out of him at training for not trying. Pathetic that a talented player like him wants to join Rangers. Fan or no fan. His ambition should be Derby County's and Nottingham Forest. Clubs like that who can pay 10k a week.

First I have heard of this, what happened at training?

[H18 SFR]

Remember he accused Peter Houston of making a full of him at training. It is the same all over again, history is merely repeating itself.

[leggeto]

http://www.snspix.com/25-07-15-hibernian-v-rangers/photo/127961.html

If the link works there's a good few pics of Allan being pally with his new Sevco pals.

I've stated before, he knows fine well what he's doing.

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Dosnt mater a sook,he's no goin take them,no matter who he's pally with

[Hibernia&Alba]

http://www.snspix.com/25-07-15-hibernian-v-rangers/photo/127961.html

If the link works there's a good few pics of Allan being pally with his new Sevco pals.

I've stated before, he knows fine well what he's doing.

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I'm sure he does, and it's all getting rather silly. He can sign a pre-contract with Sevco in January if he so wishes, but Hibs don't wish to sell him to the club who are potentially strong enough to beat us to promotion. It's pretty simple: Allan, bide your time and be a professional. It needn't be the drama it has become, but one again an OF club are determined to have their own way.

[SteveHFC]

http://www.snspix.com/25-07-15-hibernian-v-rangers/photo/127961.html

If the link works there's a good few pics of Allan being pally with his new Sevco pals.

I've stated before, he knows fine well what he's doing.

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http://www.snspix.com/image/11051150_400_400_0_0_fit_0_802b9e6db21ea636536b7af 4218d5345.jpg
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[greenginger]

Can't say he looks particularly overjoyed in any of the pics.

Did none of the other Hibs players shake hands with the Sevco mob at the end of the game ?

[Sean1875]

http://www.snspix.com/image/11051150_400_400_0_0_fit_0_802b9e6db21ea636536b7af 4218d5345.jpg
http://www.snspix.com/image/11051060_400_400_0_0_fit_0_077ce232b842da72719e401 296e0402c.jpg
http://www.snspix.com/image/11051036_400_400_0_0_fit_0_0172e4f229f92049fd714c2 ed43a46d8.jpg
http://www.snspix.com/image/11051034_400_400_0_0_fit_0_99ddfd01a344c097fb6efaf 88b780904.jpg
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Sickening. been adamant we should hang on to SA but now I hope we get rid. very very sly what he's doing to get this move to go ahead, knows exactly what he's doing.

[hibbymick]

Certainly a bit of deviousness about him. It seems to follow him about. Someone is going to be looking very silly over all this and im just not thinking its going to be Stubbsy.

[My_Wife_Camille]

@Transferangers: @RangersFC have already submitted a third bid for Scott Allan's services with the player demanding the move happens 1/2

Watch out Stubbsy, the player will 'demand' the move happens :hilarious

[Newcastlehibby]

Can't say he looks particularly overjoyed in any of the pics.

Did none of the other Hibs players shake hands with the Sevco mob at the end of the game ?
Of course they did. Lots of shaking hands etc at the end of the game. Selective photography.

[JOD]

Hey FOLKS

Gie the laddie a break. to me he has done nothing wrong.


When you think of Thomson walking to Ibrox in his bare feet./

This is nothing. Gie the laddie a break

[HoboHarry]

Hey Scott - you need to stay at Hibs because we are a really big team. But you can't go drinking with your pals on a Saturday night in case it offends some of the more precious posters on Hibs.net......

Good Grief - give the guy a break.....

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

How was he made a fool of in training by Stubbs? Someone help me out here.

[Pete]

This is the "media monkeys" trying to drive a wedge between our club, the fans and Scott Allan and it seems to be working. They know pictures like that when used in a certain context will wind us up as will articles like that Record one. Read that guys tweet...they are desperate for this to happen and will do all they can to help.

To be honest I'm not too fussy if he drinks with Hun pals or even tells our club he wants to leave. His head has been turned by the big bucks and it's the club he apparently loves so I can understand it.

We should judge him by his performances on the park and that's it. Let Stubbs and the club judge him by what he does in training and he's obviously done well enough if he's on the pitch come Saturday. It's probably going to get a lot worse and things will be said about what he is supposed to have said but we need to ignore the spin. He wants to leave, he isn't going anywhere so the ball is firmly in his court and good performances on the pitch means he is being professional and deserves our support as a hibs player.

[HH81]

Scott, hope the hang over was a shocker and you were sick in your bed. Do not be late for training today.

When does the window shut?

[blackpoolhibs]

With that statement, as youve stated for years, you win all arguments anywhere. The one downside to what you say is - Petrie - the reason all of our Hibs have been so mediocre for so long. We all know this. We all want -at the least - to be punching our weight - but we are languishing - just get Hibs back to where we belong then naebody can moan - but right now ??


Aye but even when we do eventually get back to where you and i think we belong, qualification for Europe through our league position will still not be enough for some?:confused:

I'm not looking to win ANY arguments, and have every respect for those who will support the club through thin and thin, but i'm not prepared to put myself through all that time and effort and expense to watch 2nd tier football.

I still watch every game either live on tv or on HI later, and while i feel such apathy for the way things are at the club, i still cant stop watching.

All i ask is a team that's worth my time and effort, not anyone else's.

[Beefster]

Sickening. been adamant we should hang on to SA but now I hope we get rid. very very sly what he's doing to get this move to go ahead, knows exactly what he's doing.

What was sickening in those photos? Is there someone drinking pish in the background or something?

[Sean1875]

What was sickening in those photos? Is there someone drinking pish in the background or something?

just personally don't agree with our player who's been linked with our main rivals for the league going around and hugging and laughing with their players after they've just beat us 6-2 on our own ground. opinions though eh

[ALF TUPPER]

How was he made a fool of in training by Stubbs? Someone help me out here.


This

[marinello59]

Sickening. been adamant we should hang on to SA but now I hope we get rid. very very sly what he's doing to get this move to go ahead, knows exactly what he's doing.

That whole series of pics with Law show what happened after Law had fouled him during the game. SA did nothing other than stand there. This is all getting a bit silly now.

[flash]

We are being linked with several players none of whom will come cheap.
If anyone thinks these wont be funded by his departure then good luck but personally I doubt it.
Hibs have simply dug their heels in so we get as high a fee as possible and that's all we can do.
Keeping him and not playing him hurts us more than anyone else.
What's happening here is just part of Fitba nowadays sadly and bigger clubs than us have suffered.
I hope it's not the Huns but if he refuses to go anywhere else then that's where he will end up.
We have to get people in who want to be here and move on.
Before anyone says it I hope I am talking pish and we keep him as well as bringing more in.

[Mathias Jack]

Taken from the Hibs news page on FB....

BREAKING NEWS...

Hibernian reject a bid from Rangers for midfielder Scott Allan.

SKY SPORTS NEWS confirm Hibernian have rejected an official bid for Scott Allan...

Our sources believe the bid to have been around £350k

No doubt the rangers will up they're offer but we're told Leeann Dempster had insisted he's NOT for sale!

[Jim44]

Can't say he looks particularly overjoyed in any of the pics.

Did none of the other Hibs players shake hands with the Sevco mob at the end of the game ?

Yes but Allan went round hugging nearly all of them. The TV camera followed him round for ages.

[rcarter1]

Taken from the Hibs news page on FB....

BREAKING NEWS...

Hibernian reject a bid from Rangers for midfielder Scott Allan.

SKY SPORTS NEWS confirm Hibernian have rejected an official bid for Scott Allan...

Our sources believe the bid to have been around £350k

No doubt the rangers will up they're offer but we're told Leeann Dempster had insisted he's NOT for sale!

So far I believe the club are doing well on this matter. If we get a price that can swing some deals for decent players who want to be with us, then great. In the meantime, team spirit and togetherness is more important than Scott Alan. If AS is on top of that aspect, Ill support whatever we do to maintain and strengthen that, be it playing Scott or leaving him on the sidelines.

[Beefster]

just personally don't agree with our player who's been linked with our main rivals for the league going around and hugging and laughing with their players after they've just beat us 6-2 on our own ground. opinions though eh

As M59 has pointed out, you don't seem to be aware of any of the context surrounding the photos. Even ignoring the fact that some of them weren't after the game, players shake hands and hug after every game. Allan wasn't laughing in any of the photos that you found sickening.

Folk really need to learn that they're being played. Unfortunately, in this instance, by SteveHFC's selective posting of photos.

On a related note...

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Scott Allan hugging Stubbs. He's staying!

[Jim44]

Alex Miller has come out with financial and fan loss reasons why they can't sell Allan to Sevco. He says they should accept £1m however. McColl also commented. I missed some of what he said but I got the impression that he seemed to support Stubbs.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Aye but even when we do eventually get back to where you and i think we belong, qualification for Europe through our league position will still not be enough for some?:confused:

I'm not looking to win ANY arguments, and have every respect for those who will support the club through thin and thin, but i'm not prepared to put myself through all that time and effort and expense to watch 2nd tier football.

I still watch every game either live on tv or on HI later, and while i feel such apathy for the way things are at the club, i still cant stop watching.

All i ask is a team that's worth my time and effort, not anyone else's.

5 years ago that happened and you are still bleating about it.....

So you openly state you will only come back when we are better, i.e. promoted etc.....Bully for you....."Fans" like you turn my stomach, the rest of us keep showing faith, whilst the others watch from afar contributing nothing, sniping, bickering and having digs, but will return when it gets better?

[Slicer]

Alex Miller has come out with financial and fan loss reasons why they can't sell Allan to Sevco. He says they should accept £1m however. McColl also commented. I missed some of what he said but I got the impression that he seemed to support Stubbs.

Where did you see/read this, bud?

[Jim44]

Where did you see/read this, bud?

It was on the Scottish news ten minutes ago.

[Slicer]

It was on the Scottish news ten minutes ago.

Ah, ok. :aok:

[magpie1892]

players shake hands and hug after every game

Try telling that to Lee Irwin!

[Springbank]

Personally I think it's hilarious that some Hibs fans IN THIS DAY AND AGE can't see they are being trolled here.

These are harmless pics that will not stop Hibs winning the league with Scott Allan

Do you want an example of something much worse?

Imagine a situation where one of your players is photographed at another teams game, with that other teams scarf on, amongst the fans, leading the singing, leading to police involvement.

That was Leigh Griffiths in a Hibs scarf at a tynecastle Derby as a non Hibs player.

I loved that

And I'm not bothered by Scott Allan here. He will win me the league as a Hibs fan and I'm looking forward to that.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Try telling that to Lee Irwin!

:faf:

[Golden Bear]

Alex Miller has come out with financial and fan loss reasons why they can't sell Allan to Sevco. He says they should accept £1m however. McColl also commented. I missed some of what he said but I got the impression that he seemed to support Stubbs.

:agree:

Each player has his price and I'd agree with Lexo that a million pound bid would be a game changer. Fat chance of that happening though.

Maybe the player himself could pay us £500,000 to buy himself out of his contract and der hun could make up the balance.

:stirrer:

[Beefster]

Imagine a situation where one of your players is photographed at another teams game, with that other teams scarf on, amongst the fans, leading the singing, leading to police involvement.

That was Leigh Griffiths in a Hibs scarf at a tynecastle Derby as a non Hibs player.

Very good point.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Personally I think it's hilarious that some Hibs fans IN THIS DAY AND AGE can't see they are being trolled here.

These are harmless pics that will not stop Hibs winning the league with Scott Allan

Do you want an example of something much worse?

Imagine a situation where one of your players is photographed at another teams game, with that other teams scarf on, amongst the fans, leading the singing, leading to police involvement.

That was Leigh Griffiths in a Hibs scarf at a tynecastle Derby as a non Hibs player.

I loved that

And I'm not bothered by Scott Allan here. He will win me the league as a Hibs fan and I'm looking forward to that.

I think it's hilarious that you think we will win this league. ..after saturdays performance i reckon we will be here another season

[carnoustiehibee]

Personally I think it's hilarious that some Hibs fans IN THIS DAY AND AGE can't see they are being trolled here.

These are harmless pics that will not stop Hibs winning the league with Scott Allan

Do you want an example of something much worse?

Imagine a situation where one of your players is photographed at another teams game, with that other teams scarf on, amongst the fans, leading the singing, leading to police involvement.

That was Leigh Griffiths in a Hibs scarf at a tynecastle Derby as a non Hibs player.

I loved that

And I'm not bothered by Scott Allan here. He will win me the league as a Hibs fan and I'm looking forward to that.

Great point, the hysteria on here is incredible. He came on and played well on sat that's all that matters to me.. His only crime so far is having a beer with his mates.