Scott Allan - signs a 4 year deal with Celtic

[bill the hibby]

From your posts - you heard from your Neighbour (who you stated is a good mate of Liam's) that he was on his way back. Thats how you laid it out. It is indeed an interesting piece of tit-bit, and understandably welcomed on a fans site. Good one! thanks for sharing

You are now trying to imply that the same source (because that what you've said) knows Stubbs mindset about whether he will stay or walk. Can you not understand why that is nowhere near as interesting or credible as the useful snippet you first shared....Thats why I'm not treating it with credibility. You are sharing simply someone's view - who has no real insight into what might actually happen.

Fair enough

[Mikey09]

My last post on this... (Maybe)


Scott Allan... You can still, IMO, have a part to play for Hibs this season. Won't be easy but life isn't easy. Retract that stupid transfer request, knuckle down and play your heart out if and when selected.

Scott Allan's agent... Find another career path. You are obviously as good at giving advice to football players as Kim Jong un is at giving advice on democracy.

The SMSM... You continue to sook the man parts of you're pay masters... The bigot loyal. Look up what this word means - IMPARTIAL.


Allan Stubbs, Leanne Dempster etc... Best thing that's happened to our club for years. Even though I'm pissed off with this saga I have a real sense of pride that we have people doing what's best for our club and WILL NOT be walked over or bullied by anyone.


Myself as a supporter... See above. I will continue to support these people 100% as they have shown in recent weeks more backbone than I've seen at Hibs in recent times.


The Hibs Squad... Use all this to strengthen your focus on winning every game you play. And give Scotty Allan a right ribbing at training!! :greengrin


Twitter trolls... **** off!!! You disgust and embarrass me.


GGTTH!!

[tamig]

As I said, total lack of discretion. Who cares about you getting plaudits on here for some chit-chat.

Think you're being a bit harsh. The guy has posted some decent stuff recently - most which has come to fruition. He's had all sorts of accusations thrown at him because folk don't believe or don't like what he's saying. Don't think there's any need for some of the stuff he's had thrown at him.

[Kato]

Think you're being a bit harsh. The guy has posted some decent stuff recently - most which has come to fruition. He's had all sorts of accusations thrown at him because folk don't believe or don't like what he's saying. Don't think there's any need for some of the stuff he's had thrown at him.

I don't think my post is being harsh or abusive.

Don't really think any track record of "decent" info matters a jot.

I neither believe nor disbelieve anything he's posted or think anything he's got "right" deserves plaudits and don't think he deserves abuse thrown at him.

Just think in this case he's shown zero discretion in what he's posting.

[silverhibee]

It's because of the abuse he's being sent, absolutely ridiculous stuff even the current buns are taking a moral high ground that's how bad it's got

Probably them sending the threats.

[bill the hibby]

I don't think my post is being harsh or abusive.

Don't really think any track record of "decent" info matters a jot.

I neither believe nor disbelieve anything he's posted or think anything he's got "right" deserves plaudits and don't think he deserves abuse thrown at him.

Just think in this case he's shown zero discretion in what he's posting.

Which is fair enough and we'll just leave it there

[silverhibee]

I know he has his heart set on THE Rangers but as it's now obvious that the club will never sell to them, does Scott now think it may be better to just get out of here rather than take the chance that he may be left to rot away for a season.

The Rangers/SA/Agent have another 4 weeks to go to force Hibs hand, they won't give up yet.

[silverhibee]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/hibernian/6564702/Stubbs-lays-it-on-line.html

I wonder who thought that story up, was it leaked to the Sun for more s**t stirring to unsettle Hibs.

[SlickShoes]

Hibs are in TURMOIL!

Except we aren't, Scott Allan wants to leave, that's about it.

The media are doing what they do best, being total ****bags. Glad I have never and never will buy one of those pieces of bog roll.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Hibs are in TURMOIL!

Except we aren't, Scott Allan wants to leave, that's about it.

The media are doing what they do best, being total ****bags. Glad I have never and never will buy one of those pieces of bog roll.

Have any of the tabloids gone with a cracked club crest?

[Kato]

Have any of the tabloids gone with a cracked club crest?

EEN will be first. Usually are.

[SlickShoes]

Have any of the tabloids gone with a cracked club crest?

They will use that one when Scott leaves to help push the agenda that we are hopeless without him

[andrew70]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

[silverhibee]

Few folk due Bill the hibby an apology.

Why.?


Give it a few days and the next story will be Leeann Dempster will leave Hibs after Rod Petrie getting involved, they are just making it up as they go along, these stories will keep on running until the last day of the transfer window.

Or, Scott Allan forced to train with youngsters at East Mains as The Ranger make a 3rd bid for Allan.

Or, Scott Allan fears for his life each day he comes to Hibs to train with them.

Or, Scott Allan hires bodyguard to keep him safe while he travels in to Edinburgh.

Or, Scott Allan fears he will be attacked by Hibs supporters if he plays for Hibs again.

etc etc etc

[SaulGoodman]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

Report the abuse from the Huns to the DR.

[Smartie]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

That's a quite magnificent article and one that I agree entirely with.

Well done.

[andrew70]

Report the abuse from the Huns to the DR.

Haha, I doubt they'd publish it. Jeezo though - Neanderthals. They obviously aren't used to anyone saying anything bad about their club.


That's a quite magnificent article and one that I agree entirely with.

Well done.

Thanks. :thumbsup:

[Hibernia&Alba]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

Excellent piece, Andrew; very well argued.

[liamh2202]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

Spot on Andrew . I would say he could still do a job for us but that's just my opinion. A very well written blog

[tamig]

I don't think my post is being harsh or abusive.

Don't really think any track record of "decent" info matters a jot.

I neither believe nor disbelieve anything he's posted or think anything he's got "right" deserves plaudits and don't think he deserves abuse thrown at him.

Just think in this case he's shown zero discretion in what he's posting.
I think there's plenty others on here that could fall into that category though tbh - but I think this guy's come in for some pretty big stick over the past week or so. A lot of the others seem to escape the same attention.
No worries though bud.

[silverhibee]

Of course not beyond the realms that the Sun picked up your post and that is what they have reported......?

And we have a Sun reporter who views this site quite a lot, it's a job to him and could be lifting stuff from here.

If your not K then except my apologies :aok:

[silverhibee]

And the moon is made from cheese.

And it stinks.

[Springbank]

My last post on this... (Maybe)


Scott Allan... You can still, IMO, have a part to play for Hibs this season. Won't be easy but life isn't easy. Retract that stupid transfer request, knuckle down and play your heart out if and when selected.

Scott Allan's agent... Find another career path. You are obviously as good at giving advice to football players as Kim Jong un is at giving advice on democracy.

The SMSM... You continue to sook the man parts of you're pay masters... The bigot loyal. Look up what this word means - IMPARTIAL.


Allan Stubbs, Leanne Dempster etc... Best thing that's happened to our club for years. Even though I'm pissed off with this saga I have a real sense of pride that we have people doing what's best for our club and WILL NOT be walked over or bullied by anyone.


Myself as a supporter... See above. I will continue to support these people 100% as they have shown in recent weeks more backbone than I've seen at Hibs in recent times.


The Hibs Squad... Use all this to strengthen your focus on winning every game you play. And give Scotty Allan a right ribbing at training!! :greengrin


Twitter trolls... **** off!!! You disgust and embarrass me.


GGTTH!!

Well said

Agree,with all the above

[Coco Bryce]

And we have a Sun reporter who views this site quite a lot, it's a job to him and could be lifting stuff from here.

If your not K then except my apologies :aok:

We also have a DR journo on this board to I believe. :agree:

[Coults1875]

My thoughts on it all http://www.scotzine.com/2015/07/hibernian-fan-blog-allans-agent-has-let-him-down/

With my twitter now being bombarded by Huns...:greengrin

Amazing mate, well done! Great article and one that i'll be sharing round my place of work in the middle of Glasgow :cb

[Stokesy's on fire]

loads of good posts with valid points

Scott's clearly looking to make more money..Rangers IMO are no step up so why can't the club offer him a deal he can't refuse?

[heretoday]

Oh that some English club would come in with a much more sizeable offer than Rangers. Then Scott would look a right berk sticking to his guns.

Maybe he's not that good. His career down south was hardly distinguished.

[HappyHanlon]

we really do have some utter dross in our support.

2 of the people listed by the DR have previous. They were harassing Danny Handling last season.

[HappyHanlon]

Why.?


Give it a few days and the next story will be Leeann Dempster will leave Hibs after Rod Petrie getting involved, they are just making it up as they go along, these stories will keep on running until the last day of the transfer window.

Or, Scott Allan forced to train with youngsters at East Mains as The Ranger make a 3rd bid for Allan.

Or, Scott Allan fears for his life each day he comes to Hibs to train with them.

Or, Scott Allan hires bodyguard to keep him safe while he travels in to Edinburgh.

Or, Scott Allan fears he will be attacked by Hibs supporters if he plays for Hibs again.

etc etc etc

You know what SH, at least one of the above will be a headline in The Sun.

We play that mob a week before the window shuts, I expect the media to properly ramp it up with more of their ****

[Thecat23]

If Hibs sell Scott Allan to The Rangers I honestly think it will be against Stubbs wishes. In fact it's clear as day he's said he himself doesn't want him sold to them.

So if for some reason The Rangers found a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow and coughed up serious cash for the board to fold and sell, I'd suspect Stubbs to then see out this season and not sign an extension and leave then. I don't think he'd walk before a ball is kicked or in the next month or so!

Again this is just my opinion, I've not heard anything or been told anything I just think after watching his interviews that in no way would he agree to Allan going to them and it would piss him right off he did go.

On a brighter note, anyone else here anything regarding new players signing this week?

[macca70]

loads of good posts with valid points

Scott's clearly looking to make more money..Rangers IMO are no step up so why can't the club offer him a deal he can't refuse?

Because The Rangers will be offering £5k-£9k per week which we cannot offer.

Plus he is a Rangers fan with friends at Rangers.

What we probably could offer though is a decent lump sum to sign eg £100k sign fee plus a percent of any future transfer fee.

[silverhibee]

loads of good posts with valid points

Scott's clearly looking to make more money..Rangers IMO are no step up so why can't the club offer him a deal he can't refuse?

He has just handed in a transfer request, think that rules him out of signing a extension to his contract he can't refuse, that will go down well with the rest of the squad, every player would be handing in transfer requests to get better deals.

He doesn't want to be here.

[andrew70]

If Hibs sell Scott Allan to The Rangers I honestly think it will be against Stubbs wishes. In fact it's clear as day he's said he himself doesn't want him sold to them.

So if for some reason The Rangers found a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow and coughed up serious cash for the board to fold and sell, I'd suspect Stubbs to then see out this season and not sign an extension and leave then. I don't think he'd walk before a ball is kicked or in the next month or so!

Again this is just my opinion, I've not heard anything or been told anything I just think after watching his interviews that in no way would he agree to Allan going to them and it would piss him right off he did go.

On a brighter note, anyone else here anything regarding new players signing this week?

It would definitely be against his wishes but I think Stubbs would walk.

Again it's just a matter of personal opinion but he's a principled man and I think he would go to show other prospective employers that he's not going to be a push-over.

I like the last bit mate, we all need to get back to speaking about Hibs.

Not one player because right now Rangers are doing exactly what they want. Let's hope we get a couple of good names in the door this week.

[Blaster]

If Hibs sell Scott Allan to The Rangers I honestly think it will be against Stubbs wishes. In fact it's clear as day he's said he himself doesn't want him sold to them.

So if for some reason The Rangers found a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow and coughed up serious cash for the board to fold and sell, I'd suspect Stubbs to then see out this season and not sign an extension and leave then. I don't think he'd walk before a ball is kicked or in the next month or so!

Again this is just my opinion, I've not heard anything or been told anything I just think after watching his interviews that in no way would he agree to Allan going to them and it would piss him right off he did go.

On a brighter note, anyone else here anything regarding new players signing this week?

Does that mean you've heard or just asking the question? We could certainly do with a signing or two

[Smartie]

Stubbs has been very vocal and very visible about not selling Allan to Rangers.

If a crazy offer came in from them then the board would need to discuss it with Stubbs but it would need to be huge to tempt Hibs now.

Stubbs would look like a twat if Hibs sold Allan to Rangers behind his back and would, imo, be perfectly justified to walk away.

I don't think it would do his reputation any harm either. He doesn't need to get a reputation as being a walkover, he'd earn respect from people the length and breadth of the country if he did. Not all boards just want a lackey or a yes man as a manager.

All ifs and buts though.

We're still not selling.

[Thecat23]

Does that mean you've heard or just asking the question? We could certainly do with a signing or two

I'd heard but not from what I'd call someone ITK that we were looking to have a player signed for this w'end! I'm assuming McCabe if he's right unless anyone else has heard anything?

[Thecat23]

It would definitely be against his wishes but I think Stubbs would walk.

Again it's just a matter of personal opinion but he's a principled man and I think he would go to show other prospective employers that he's not going to be a push-over.

I like the last bit mate, we all need to get back to speaking about Hibs.

Not one player because right now Rangers are doing exactly what they want. Let's hope we get a couple of good names in the door this week.

Yeah we need fresh faces in sooner rather than later. Lift the mood of the fans and players.

[silverhibee]

It would definitely be against his wishes but I think Stubbs would walk.

Again it's just a matter of personal opinion but he's a principled man and I think he would go to show other prospective employers that he's not going to be a push-over.

I like the last bit mate, we all need to get back to speaking about Hibs.

Not one player because right now Rangers are doing exactly what they want. Let's hope we get a couple of good names in the door this week.

Stubbs played for Celtc for many years, he will know how the old firm work when they want a player from a Scottish club, 99% of the time they get the player, I doubt he will walk if we sell to them against his wishes, he certainly won't sign a extension with us if it happens.

[andrew70]

Yeah we need fresh faces in sooner rather than later. Lift the mood of the fans and players.

:agree: 100% - crazy the difference a matter of two weeks, the scottish press, a dodgy agent and the Huns can make.

It was all plain sailing in late June/early July.

[andrew70]

Stubbs played for Celtc for many years, he will know how the old firm work when they want a player from a Scottish club, 99% of the time they get the player, I doubt he will walk if we sell to them against his wishes, he certainly won't sign a extension with us if it happens.

Even if he thinks it will stop him from achieving, what must be, his only aim from this season.

We need promotion but surely if he has any hope of increasing his credibility (as a manager) so does he?

[magpie1892]

Because The Rangers will be offering £5k-£9k per week.

There is not a hope in hell that Rangers will be able to offer Allan a three-year, £9k/wk contract. They don't have the money.

Your first figure is more accurate.

[Seveno]

Rangers do not have the money to make Hibs consider a bid for a second. If he goes to Inrox, it will be as a free agent at the end of the season.

[Stokesy's on fire]

He has just handed in a transfer request, think that rules him out of signing a extension to his contract he can't refuse, that will go down well with the rest of the squad, every player would be handing in transfer requests to get better deals.

He doesn't want to be here.


Money always talks though. I understand he's a Rangers fan...but LG is a Hibs fan he's playing for the team that offers the best money it's always about money.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Because The Rangers will be offering £5k-£9k per week which we cannot offer.

Plus he is a Rangers fan with friends at Rangers.

What we probably could offer though is a decent lump sum to sign eg £100k sign fee plus a percent of any future transfer fee.

Good post and good idea.
It really does pain me that a team that's freshly made has managed to get hold of more money than most. Footbals not about football it's about the highest bidder might as well start putting the titles on eBay.

[tamig]

Money always talks though. I understand he's a Rangers fan...but LG is a Hibs fan he's playing for the team that offers the best money it's always about money.

So how are we going to match 5k a week?

[TonyStokeprano]

I have to agree with bill the hibby here, i was told on friday if hibs sell scott allan to rangers stubbs will be gone.

[emerald green]

Because The Rangers will be offering £5k-£9k per week which we cannot offer.

But I keep reading that The Rangers are skint. Which is it? Are they skint or are they not? How can they be making signings if the are "skint"?

Maybe it all depends on how one defines "skint"? :confused:

[Stokesy's on fire]

So how are we going to match 5k a week?

It would be easy to match 5k per week it's just sourcing the funding that's hard. The more fans buying season tickets and going to games the more likely the funding becomes available it's frustrating. But it can be done.

[Stokesy's on fire]

But I keep reading that The Rangers are skint. Which is it? Are they skint or are they not? How can they be making signings if the are "skint"?

Maybe it all depends on how one defines "skint"? :confused:

Because they are dodgy and despite what happened to the former residents of Ibrox the tribute act wants to be just as daft as the old Huns.!

[21.05.2016]

It's amazing how much disruption one player can cause. I hope Stubbs and his team are keeping the rest of the team focused and as much away from all this nonsense as possible. The hun media are trying their hardest to create as big a **** storm around hibs as possible. The huns have manipulated the situation and so far must be loving how this is panning out.

[Geo_1875]

It's amazing how much disruption one player can cause. I hope Stubbs and his team are keeping the rest of the team focused and as much away from all this nonsense as possible. The hun media are trying their hardest to create as big a **** storm around hibs as possible. The huns have manipulated the situation and so far must be loving how this is panning out.

They are quite happy with the outcome either way. Either they get him, we sell him to someone else or he stays and contributes little. I think they'd rather have the cheapest option though.

[KeithTheHibby]

The Rangers/SA/Agent have another 4 weeks to go to force Hibs hand, they won't give up yet.

Hibs have stated many times that they won't sell to Rangers so I see no mileage in that.

[soupy]

Hibs have stated many times that they won't sell to Rangers so I see no mileage in that.

Spoke to a Hibs director this morning who assured me this is still the case..

[CropleyWasGod]

loads of good posts with valid points

Scott's clearly looking to make more money..Rangers IMO are no step up so why can't the club offer him a deal he can't refuse?

We already have.

It's called a contract.

[tamig]

It would be easy to match 5k per week it's just sourcing the funding that's hard. The more fans buying season tickets and going to games the more likely the funding becomes available it's frustrating. But it can be done.

I think you're being a tad unrealistic. Not impossible but highly unlikely. Only performances on the pitch will encourage most of the stay aways to buy seasons again.

[emerald green]

Because they are dodgy and despite what happened to the former residents of Ibrox the tribute act wants to be just as daft as the old Huns.!

And take the newco into liquidation. You really believe that? That they are that "daft"?

[CropleyWasGod]

It would be easy to match 5k per week it's just sourcing the funding that's hard. The more fans buying season tickets and going to games the more likely the funding becomes available it's frustrating. But it can be done.

....which translates as "we can't afford it". :cb

[tamig]

Hibs have stated many times that they won't sell to Rangers so I see no mileage in that.

Agreed. The club won't do a u-turn on this. Past the point of no return now. And it doesn't matter what SA or the agent do.

[BoomtownHibees]

It would be easy to match 5k per week it's just sourcing the funding that's hard. The more fans buying season tickets and going to games the more likely the funding becomes available it's frustrating. But it can be done.

So could £50k a week but sourcing the funding would be hard

[Hibiza]

obvious answer , is to get him out the door as soon as poss but not to Sevco.

[Hibiza]

Let him go to Ipswich or the like . Anywhere but Sevco. Overrated.:bye:

[lyonhibs]

Let him go to Ipswich or the like . Anywhere but Sevco. Overrated.:bye:

Insightful and unique. Cheers.

[blackpoolhibs]

And if he does not want to go to Ipswich............

[Ronniekirk]

Plea to Admins ,can we merge new S A threads with existing ones As there are far too many already .:rolleyes:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

And if he does not want to go to Ipswich............

Send him to Coventry.

[southsider]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

[SanFranHibs]

And if he does not want to go to Ipswich............

Ok, Norwich. Let's not quibble over which Wich!

But seriously, I presume Hibs will be discreetly making it known he is available?

Be interesting if Hibs receive any other offers.

[EVENTUALLY]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

He is the best player on Hibs books. No doubt about it. Keep him and manage the situation.

[patlowe]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

I understand the sentiment and you're actually right in some of your criticism but, come on...the guy is outstanding. The prospect of a season without him is a whole lot less exciting than the thought of a season with him, regardless of the situation right now.

[EVENTUALLY]

I understand the sentiment and you're actually right in some of your criticism but, come on...the guy is outstanding. The prospect of a season without him is a whole lot less exciting than the thought of a season with him, regardless of the situation right now.

100% Spot on.

[Ronniekirk]

Ok, Norwich. Let's not quibble over which Wich!

But seriously, I presume Hibs will be discreetly making it known he is available?

Be interesting if Hibs receive any other offers.

I actually think a lot of the P R at present is designed to put off other suitors so they are the only option .but it's back fired with our tenacity and commitment not to sell to them at any price

[leggeto]

Scott has been a bit sneaky in this whole carry on, he could have waited til January to sign a precontract. I hope he stays and plays to the best of his ability and acts like a grown up about it.
Saying all that it could be his agent who is advising him to do all this to force hibs hand

[leggeto]

Ok, Norwich. Let's not quibble over which Wich!

But seriously, I presume Hibs will be discreetly making it known he is available?

Be interesting if Hibs receive any other offers.

If he has his heart set on the huns,he won't go anywhere else,so I expect him to stay and move on at the end of the season whether he plays for us or not

[Stokesy's on fire]

I think you're being a tad unrealistic. Not impossible but highly unlikely. Only performances on the pitch will encourage most of the stay aways to buy seasons again.

It pains me to say your spot on. Glory is the only way to bring back our supporters

[Onion]

Ok, Norwich. Let's not quibble over which Wich!

But seriously, I presume Hibs will be discreetly making it known he is available?

Be interesting if Hibs receive any other offers.

Be funny of Newcastle came in for him, with their pocket change. Would Hibs sell to them ? :greengrin

[Smartie]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

Nonsense. This situation wouldn't even have arisen if that were the case.

He's a magnificent player, the heartbeat of our side. When he plays well, we play well. That's why Rangers have played a blinder because if he doesn't play for us (for whatever reason) then we're significantly weaker.

We know more about him than they do. When you go onto Rangers Media they are split between those who would want to pay the going rate and get him now and those who would happily wait and get him for nothing. They feel that they have reasonable cover in midfield now. We realise how good he is and the positive impact he would have on their side (before he gets his head turned again) therefore our steadfast refusal to sell to them, this year.

[Baldy Foghorn]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

His corners were always floated, now might be a chance to see a variation on the type of corners we take:greengrin

[high bee]

He is the best player on Hibs books. No doubt about it. Keep him and manage the situation.

When he is good he is great, when he is off the boil the whole team suffers because he is at the centre of most of our play. We went on a great run and he was at the fore but any team that relies on one player will come unstuck. Looks at Hearts last season, they had grit in the midfield, goals from midfield and they didn't have an over reliance on one player.

I keep hearing that keeping SA will be the difference between winning the league or not. I believe this however it is my view that it would be keeping him that harms our chances because he is a luxury player and now we will have a media story following him all season. We don't need to replace him with someone of similar skill because we would be better with 2/3 solid options in midfield rather than one superstar.

This is not anti Scott Allan, I think he is a joy to watch. It can also be incredibly frustrating when every ball is a World Cup ball ( yes, I hear you say it's worth it when they come off but we need the simple stuff done consistently) rather than an easy pass to the guy in space. How many times has he played such a good ball that his team mates don't read it.

Let's get a team full of players here for the jersey, all on the same wavelength on the pitch, a good balance of skill and metal throughout the team and most importantly some goals from midfield. Once we have all that and we are beating Falkirk and QOS consistently and with ease, te we can worry about fitting a luxury player in.

[Brightside]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

Stanton took all the corners last weekend. All over hit too.

[Moulin Yarns]

Isn't it ironic that while our 'best player' was on the subs bench on Saturday the team had the better part of the game in the first half. Our 'best player' only came on once the game was lost.

[rodhibs55]

Send him to Coventry.

Tell him to go France

[hibees 7062]

Be funny of Newcastle came in for him, with their pocket change. Would Hibs sell to them ? :greengrin

They were interested in him when he was at Utd

[Gmack7]

They were interested in him when he was at Utd

ABTR:greengrin

[Hibiza]

Insightful and unique. Cheers.

diff is Ipswich their interested.

[proud_and_green]

And we have a Sun reporter who views this site quite a lot, it's a job to him and could be lifting stuff from here.

If your not K then except my apologies :aok:

Your first sentence is precisely my point.

Add to that the fact that he has named Liam Fontaine as the source now. Not, in my opinion the best considered or discrete set of posts. I hope it does not cause Liam any difficulties with the club or his colleagues.

Definitely not a Sun, or any other paper, reporter.

[Sweet Left Peg]

Be funny of Newcastle came in for him, with their pocket change. Would Hibs sell to them ? :greengrin

The thought had crossed my mind, given the amount of loan deals between them in January.

[lyonhibs]

diff is Ipswich their interested.

Are they ? Have I missed that or is it another Daily Ranger "exclusive "

Would be perfectly happy to flog him to Ipswich for the right price

[Smartie]

The thought had crossed my mind, given the amount of loan deals between them in January.

If Scott Allan isn't going to play for us this season then my second choice would be for him to go to Newcastle and for them to make him work in Sports Direct this season.

Just for Ashley to make a point to King.

Maybe not as daft as it sounds you know.

[Johnny_Leith]

diff is Ipswich their interested.

Ipswich rarely pay transfer fees, I'd be surprised if they paid for him.

Long shot but there's a fair amount of interest in Henri Lansbury at Notts Forrest, SA is a similar type of player so could be seen as a replacement, and Forrest aren't shy in spending.

I think we have to sell and look for a replacement, his relationship is at least an uneasy one with Hibs fans and squad.

Cancel that- Forrest are under transfer embargo

[Gerard]

NOT FOR SALE easy to understand words

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

NOT FOR SALE easy to understand words

Not for Sevco though. After all, they are only 3 years old!

[Ringothedog]

I have to agree with bill the hibby here, i was told on friday if hibs sell scott allan to rangers stubbs will be gone.

His new contract should give him a bigger payoff.

[GreenT]

Yes he is an ungrateful wretch but I hope, if and/or when he plays for us again the fans don't boo his every touch. All that will do is unsettle the rest of the team and give the opposition a boost.
GREAT news today about Alan Stubbs et.al Armchair fans PLEASE get out and support the team as much as possible

[LancsHibs]

Be funny of Newcastle came in for him, with their pocket change. Would Hibs sell to them ? :greengrin

If Newcastle came in could we add a clause in the deal that he couldn't be loaned to the club known as Rangers for the remainder of the season or a further £1m has to be paid to us. On second thoughts we should add that clause to any club that comes in for him:hmmm:

[tamig]

The boy has good skills and can see a pass. But.... always overhits corners, did not score enough goals last season and has the heart the size of a pea. Get rid.

Never read such pish.

[sahib]

Never read such pish.

You can't have read any of my posts then.

[scoopyboy]

His new contract should give him a bigger payoff.

If he walks he disnae get a pay off.

Furthermore should he get another job we would be entitled to an extra years compo.

[AlbertK86]

He is the best player on Hibs books. No doubt about it. Keep him and manage the situation.

Agree 100 %

Bottom line is he is Rangers daft and always has been

Most of us in that position would try and move heaven and earth to play for our boyhood heroes

If it didn't happen I would take it on the chin once the door was closed and try to prove I was the best player in the division again

Hopefully Allan does the same

[tamig]

You can't have read any of my posts then.

:-)

[The_Horde]

Agree 100 %

Bottom line is he is Rangers daft and always has been

Most of us in that position would try and move heaven and earth to play for our boyhood heroes

If it didn't happen I would take it on the chin once the door was closed and try to prove I was the best player in the division again

Hopefully Allan does the same

Would you be saying the same if stubbs wanted to go to celtic despite making us promises of helping to get promotion?

[bingo70]

Agree 100 %

Bottom line is he is Rangers daft and always has been

Most of us in that position would try and move heaven and earth to play for our boyhood heroes

If it didn't happen I would take it on the chin once the door was closed and try to prove I was the best player in the division again

Hopefully Allan does the same

This isn't about him joining his boyhood heroes, don't kid yourself, this is about money.

If he grew up a st mirren fan would he be making such a fuss to get out his contract to join them?

If he was playing for a club paying him more than the rangers are offering him would he be desperate to join his boyhood heroes?

Would he bollocks, anyway, he can join them next year if he wants so what's the rush? If I got told I was going to get to play for the hibs but I'd have to wait a year I'd be delighted, he's just pissed off he's having to wait a year until he gets his salary trebled or whatever he's going to get.

[Jonnyboy]

This isn't about him joining his boyhood heroes, don't kid yourself, this is about money.

If he grew up a st mirren fan would he be making such a fuss to get out his contract to join them?

If he was playing for a club paying him more than the rangers are offering him would he be desperate to join his boyhood heroes?

Would he bollocks, anyway, he can join them next year if he wants so what's the rush? If I got told I was going to get to play for the hibs but I'd have to wait a year I'd be delighted, he's just pissed off he's having to wait a year until he gets his salary trebled or whatever he's going to get.

This 100%

[Ringothedog]

If he walks he disnae get a pay off.

Furthermore should he get another job we would be entitled to an extra years compo.
I was trying to be sarcastic. It didn't work (:

[FranckSuzy]

This isn't about him joining his boyhood heroes, don't kid yourself, this is about money.

If he grew up a st mirren fan would he be making such a fuss to get out his contract to join them?

If he was playing for a club paying him more than the rangers are offering him would he be desperate to join his boyhood heroes?

Would he bollocks, anyway, he can join them next year if he wants so what's the rush? If I got told I was going to get to play for the hibs but I'd have to wait a year I'd be delighted, he's just pissed off he's having to wait a year until he gets his salary trebled or whatever he's going to get.

Exactly :agree: Just ask Alan Combe how it felt when he eventually got to sign for Hibs :aok:

[Mellow Hibee]

Agree 100 %

Bottom line is he is Rangers daft and always has been

Most of us in that position would try and move heaven and earth to play for our boyhood heroes

If it didn't happen I would take it on the chin once the door was closed and try to prove I was the best player in the division again

Hopefully Allan does the same

I'm sorry but that's not the case for me. I love hibs and in my wildest daydreams I would end up playing for Barca, filling my pockets with cash, then coming back for a couple of seasons at hibs. What I wouldn't do is to step all over the people who had helped me get where I wanted to be, or as you put it "move heaven and earth" to get there.

He had the option to get where he wanted to be while earning the respect of the professionals and fans who helped him get there and moving on with nothing but best wishes. He has chosen not to do that (and I agree with others who have said that he has been badly advised).

Right now for me, it's 100% about how hibs deal with this situation (and so far they are doing very well) and 0% about SA and his commitment to my club.

[ancient hibee]

I'm sorry but that's not the case for me. I love hibs and in my wildest daydreams I would end up playing for Barca, filling my pockets with cash, then coming back for a couple of seasons at hibs. What I wouldn't do is to step all over the people who had helped me get where I wanted to be, or as you put it "move heaven and earth" to get there.

He had the option to get where he wanted to be while earning the respect of the professionals and fans who helped him get there and moving on with nothing but best wishes. He has chosen not to do that (and I agree with others who have said that he has been badly advised).

Right now for me, it's 100% about how hibs deal with this situation (and so far they are doing very well) and 0% about SA and his commitment to my club.

So you'd chase the cash when you were any good and then deign to return to your boyhood heroes when you were past it.Interesting.

[ehf]

This isn't about him joining his boyhood heroes, don't kid yourself, this is about money.

If he grew up a st mirren fan would he be making such a fuss to get out his contract to join them?

If he was playing for a club paying him more than the rangers are offering him would he be desperate to join his boyhood heroes?

Would he bollocks, anyway, he can join them next year if he wants so what's the rush? If I got told I was going to get to play for the hibs but I'd have to wait a year I'd be delighted, he's just pissed off he's having to wait a year until he gets his salary trebled or whatever he's going to get.

Nailed it.

The irony is that Sevco actually don't have the money and will be insolvent by the end of the year. By which time Allan's ****my agent will have been paid and we'll see just how loyal Allan is to the Bigots' cause when they ask him to play for nothing.

[AlbertK86]

Would you be saying the same if stubbs wanted to go to celtic despite making us promises of helping to get promotion?

Stubbsy hasn't been a Celtic supporter all his life but yes I would

[AlbertK86]

I'm sorry but that's not the case for me. I love hibs and in my wildest daydreams I would end up playing for Barca, filling my pockets with cash, then coming back for a couple of seasons at hibs. What I wouldn't do is to step all over the people who had helped me get where I wanted to be, or as you put it "move heaven and earth" to get there. He had the option to get where he wanted to be while earning the respect of the professionals and fans who helped him get there and moving on with nothing but best wishes. He has chosen not to do that (and I agree with others who have said that he has been badly advised). Right now for me, it's 100% about how hibs deal with this situation (and so far they are doing very well) and 0% about SA and his commitment to my club.

All about opinions

Hopefully nobody is interpreting I am happy to let him go to the Sevconians

Absolutely no way he gets to go there despite his dream

What I do agree with you about is the superb way Hibs are dealing with it and taking a firm stance

[Mellow Hibee]

So you'd chase the cash when you were any good and then deign to return to your boyhood heroes when you were past it.Interesting.

Yes, maybe that makes me a bad guy, but I assume that there would be EPL clubs in for me at that point, which means I could still knock the absolute sh** out of the SPFL at that point. I did explain that it was a daydream yeah? If it makes you happier, I'd be playing for free and giving a good wedge to the club.

[Smartie]

This isn't about him joining his boyhood heroes, don't kid yourself, this is about money.

If he grew up a st mirren fan would he be making such a fuss to get out his contract to join them?

If he was playing for a club paying him more than the rangers are offering him would he be desperate to join his boyhood heroes?

Would he bollocks, anyway, he can join them next year if he wants so what's the rush? If I got told I was going to get to play for the hibs but I'd have to wait a year I'd be delighted, he's just pissed off he's having to wait a year until he gets his salary trebled or whatever he's going to get.

There is one thing other than money that might be making Allan want to go now.

It would be a bit weird for him as a Hibs player to knock his pan in this year and get us promoted only for his reward to be (probably) a third year in a row in the First Division playing for Rangers.

Plus, you never know when opportunities are going to come around in life. Sometimes you just have to take them when they are presented to you and in Allan's case that time is now.

[bingo70]

There is one thing other than money that might be making Allan want to go now.

It would be a bit weird for him as a Hibs player to knock his pan in this year and get us promoted only for his reward to be (probably) a third year in a row in the First Division playing for Rangers.

Plus, you never know when opportunities are going to come around in life. Sometimes you just have to take them when they are presented to you and in Allan's case that time is now.

That's fair enough and a pretty good argument for him.

Unfortunately for him though, he signed a two year contract so he's got to accept there's consequences to that in the sane way there's consequences for hibs if he broke his leg after he signed that deal.

The opportunity for Allan to join the rangers isn't now as he's not free to join them.

His opportunity to join them will be next year, if we get promoted and they don't it'll be interesting to see if he'll still be desperate to join his boyhood heroes or if he'll choose to go elsewhere.

[Gerard]

As I see this situation we have a player who has GREAT talents that we need to get promotion. He wants to go to a team whom he has supported since he was a boy. That team is our major competitor to winning promotion this year. He has 1 year left on his contract. The needs of Hibs must come before the needs of this player:this year. If he plays well for our club and still wants to play next season for this club, then that is his choice and we must respect that. He must respect the club that pays his wages, helps to make him a better player and help get that club the promotion we all want. He is a young player and if he waits another year then he has every possibility of going to the club of his choice as a better player. This year he is IS NOT FOR SALE.:wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink:

[PatHead]

As I see this situation we have a player who has GREAT talents that we need to get promotion. He wants to go to a team whom he has supported since he was a boy. That team is our major competitor to winning promotion this year. He has 1 year left on his contract. The needs of Hibs must come before the needs of this player:this year. If he plays well for our club and still wants to play next season for this club, then that is his choice and we must respect that. He must respect the club that pays his wages, helps to make him a better player and help get that club the promotion we all want. He is a young player and if he waits another year then he has every possibility of going to the club of his choice as a better player. This year he is IS NOT FOR SALE.:wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink:

Sorry Gerard but you are wrong, He is for sale (as is any player at the right price) but just not to The Rangers.

"Hibernian’s position has not changed. The player will not be sold to Rangers."

[Borderhibbie76]

A Dundee Utd supporting mate of mine just text to say strong rumours he was at Tannadice today for signing talks...tbh I hope this is true!! Get rid and we can all move on

[Stokesy's on fire]

A Dundee Utd supporting mate of mine just text to say strong rumours he was at Tannadice today for signing talks...tbh I hope this is true!! Get rid and we can all move on

Unlikely as SA wants to join a bigger club and Dundee United are not a bigger club

[MyJo]

Unlikely as SA wants to join a bigger club and Dundee United are not a bigger club

Scott Allan wants more money, pure and simple.

[Ozyhibby]

@grantbrebner: http://t.co/u0TYeF8Dro

Hey Scott the lure of knowing when lunch is served should guarantee you a medal with sevco. #revolutionarymethod

[Stokesy's on fire]

Scott Allan wants more money, pure and simple.

It's always about money

[Sir David Gray]

A Dundee Utd supporting mate of mine just text to say strong rumours he was at Tannadice today for signing talks...tbh I hope this is true!! Get rid and we can all move on

Why would Allan agree to this when he knows that he could move to Sevco in 12 months' time?

He doesn't just want to leave us, he wants to join Sevco so unless he's only going to sign for Dundee Utd (or any other club for that matter) for one year then there would be no guarantee that he would then be getting his dream move to Sevco next summer.

[SteveHFC]

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-48628-14382090489161.jpg

[magpie1892]

Scott doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box and it's becoming clearer by the day that he's been horrendously advised. His agent would have been 99.9% certain SA would be at hunbrox by now and communicated this to the player. Unfortunately, the flange representing him reckoned without LD, who could probably knock the **** out of him physically as well as in business if she was so minded.

SA doesn't escape blame, but I'd have given the agent his P45 by now. Does SA not know that PFA Scotland will represent players in these matters for a token payment? Not 'big time' enough for you, Scotty? It remains to be seen how much damage you've done to your career, ya stupid fud, for listening to your weapon of an agent.

[tamig]

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-48628-14382090489161.jpg

What's the point of dredging up these old tweets? Allan's probably expressing his dismay in that one at the state of his team. Not sure what Hibby D is trying to prove there. It does look a bit sad imo.

[bill the hibby]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.

[tamig]

Scott doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box and it's becoming clearer by the day that he's been horrendously advised. His agent would have been 99.9% certain SA would be a hubrox by now and communicated this to the player. Unfortunately, the flange representing him reckoned without LD, who could probably knock the **** out of him physically as well as in business if she was so minded.

SA doesn't escape blame, but I'd have given the agent his P45 by now. Does SA not know that PFA Scotland will represent players in these matters for a token payment? Not 'big time' enough for you, Scotty? It remains to be seen how much damage you've done to your career, ya stupid fud, for listening to your weapon of an agent.

I said much the same yesterday. Would love to hear the conversations taking place between the pair of them now. The current situation was definitely not part of the grand plan.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Scott doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box and it's becoming clearer by the day that he's been horrendously advised. His agent would have been 99.9% certain SA would be a hubrox by now and communicated this to the player. Unfortunately, the flange representing him reckoned without LD, who could probably knock the **** out of him physically as well as in business if she was so minded.

SA doesn't escape blame, but I'd have given the agent his P45 by now. Does SA not know that PFA Scotland will represent players in these matters for a token payment? Not 'big time' enough for you, Scotty? It remains to be seen how much damage you've done to your career, ya stupid fud, for listening to your weapon of an agent.

He's not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

[The_Horde]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.

Deary me I-hun. Should never have gotten a testimonial

[magpie1892]

I said much the same yesterday. Would love to hear the conversations taking place between the pair of them now. The current situation was definitely not part of the grand plan.

Aye, if SA wants some FREE advice, it would be to find proper representation ASAP. Absolutely loads of agents in Scotland/North of England who'd represent him for a flat 5%, or of course there is PFA Scotland as I suggested. I, tooo, would love to know what they've been talking about these past few days. I think a lot of what SA has been saying has started: 'But you promised me...'

:faf:

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Yes, maybe that makes me a bad guy, but I assume that there would be EPL clubs in for me at that point, which means I could still knock the absolute sh** out of the SPFL at that point. I did explain that it was a daydream yeah? If it makes you happier, I'd be playing for free and giving a good wedge to the club.

I hear ya bro. My daydream is similar. Sign for Hibs, stay until early 20's-winning the Scottish cup in my final game. Move to Barca, have 5 good seasons then back to Hibs for my final 3/4 seasons. It's quite a regular daydream tbh

[bill the hibby]

Deary me I-hun. Should never have gotten a testimonial

Really detest the guy

[Jim44]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.

He's got a vested interest here. I think he probably thinks that if SA goes to Sevco, his mob will have a chance of winning the playoffs against Hibs.

[bill the hibby]

He's got a vested interest here. I think he probably thinks that if SA goes to Sevco, his mob will have a chance of winning the playoffs against Hibs.

I'd fancy our chances against St.mirren with or without allan, don't think they'll pose much of threat this season, could be a decent away day trip though.

[Andy74]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.

Never liked Murray anyway, but what he says doesn't make any sense from a Hibs point of view - it is all about what is good for Allan. I suspect he will never make a top manager if he would be willing to give his players away on the basis that they supported another team so they might as well play for them if they want.

[J-C]

I think Murray needs to remember he's a manager now and as such has to think before he speaks, he cannot think in players terms any more but has to now realise that as a manager the club is the most important thing and no player is bigger than that club.I wonder what his new employer St Mirren will think if any of their young players want to go to their boyhood team, will Murray just wave any fee and allow him to go to the detrement of St Mirren.

[lord bunberry]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.
What a complete tool. Anyone with any sense understands why we can't sell Allan to the Huns.

[Pete]

He's got a vested interest here. I think he probably thinks that if SA goes to Sevco, his mob will have a chance of winning the playoffs against Hibs.

:agree: he's definitely mixing it. There might be a bit of the players union thinking but turmoil at hibs would suit him and the team he manages.

Don't be fooled, this is nothing to do with any personal affection for Rangers. It's framed that way to enforce an argument and sell papers.

[bingo70]

In shock news there doesn't appear to be anything on the back page of the Sun about Scott Allan!

Wishful thinking to think this could be the media starting to lose interest as they know he's not joining them?

[Hibeesmad]

In shock news there doesn't appear to be anything on the back page of the Sun about Scott Allan!

Wishful thinking to think this could be the media starting to lose interest as they know he's not joining them?

Have they published anything about Stubbs new contract?.. One day after revealing he could be set to leave 😂😂😂

[Springbank]

In shock news there doesn't appear to be anything on the back page of the Sun about Scott Allan!

Wishful thinking to think this could be the media starting to lose interest as they know he's not joining them?

It's only now, as the dust settles, that the REAL story starts to show its face

Dave King can't afford Scott Allan

His "off the radar" wealth amounts to £225k

And his stadium is crumbling, needs money spent on it

#justsaying

[Onion]

I think Murray needs to remember he's a manager now and as such has to think before he speaks, he cannot think in players terms any more but has to now realise that as a manager the club is the most important thing and no player is bigger than that club.I wonder what his new employer St Mirren will think if any of their young players want to go to their boyhood team, will Murray just wave any fee and allow him to go to the detrement of St Mirren.

How right you are. Doesn't reflect well on Murray as a manager.

[Bostonhibby]

Murray doing a great job of burning another bridge with Hibernian fans whilst simultaneously ingratiating himself with new boys fans. What's it got to do with him? It's not as if he is scheming to join them again so maybe feels the need to help them in their struggle with reality.

[The_Horde]

Murray doing a great job of burning another bridge with Hibernian fans whilst simultaneously ingratiating himself with new boys fans. What's it got to do with him? It's not as if he is scheming to join them again so maybe feels the need to help them in their struggle with reality.

He's a weirdo. I sometimes worry about the guy.

[21.05.2016]

GTF Ian Murray, what's it got to do with you

[GordonHFC]

Wasn't he the one who was saying McGinn wouldn't be signing for anyone unless the development fee money was right. Make your mind up Ian, club power or player power.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Love how that article says Ian Murray was 'given the honour' of a testimonial - there's more people round Leigh Griffiths' house on Christmas morning than there was at Easter Road for that game!

[andrew70]

Love how that article says Ian Murray was 'given the honour' of a testimonial - there's more people round Leigh Griffiths' house on Christmas morning than there was at Easter Road for that game!

Hahaha quality! :top marks:greengrin

The boy's only ever been about himself. As a poster says above different story when it comes to McGinn.

He'll go far in the game I think, very decent coach but whatever he says is best ignored.

[KeithTheHibby]

Slightly off topic however what is Hun reaction to the paltry bid for Allan? Surely even the thickest of Huns would see that they they have offered anything but the going rate?

Are they questioning Dave King or too busy sticking the boot into Hibs for denying Allan a move to them?

[KeithTheHibby]

Hahaha quality! :top marks:greengrin

The boy's only ever been about himself. As a poster says above different story when it comes to McGinn.

He'll go far in the game I think, very decent coach but whatever he says is best ignored.

Yep, an incredibly stupid interview to give about someone else's player while at the same time having a different opinion about one of his own players!

[mvteng]

In shock news there doesn't appear to be anything on the back page of the Sun about Scott Allan!

Wishful thinking to think this could be the media starting to lose interest as they know he's not joining them?

Media interest will start again in the week leading up to 23rd August. Guaranteed

[My_Wife_Camille]

Ian Murray is a Hun creep and can GTF.

Missed a a penalty in his own testimonial too:giruy2:

[JimBHibees]

Struggling to understand why Murray thought this was in any way his concern. Best to have shut up however you do get the impression he is still incredibly bitter about Hibs for some reason.

[Keith_M]

At last. A Journalist who actually gets it!


Incredible News: Hibs won't sell best player to title rival. (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13506029.Spiers_on_Sport__incredible_news_____Hibs _won___t_sell_best_player_to_title_rival/?ref=mmpg)


Thank you Graham Spiers.

:aok:

[The_Horde]

Struggling to understand why Murray thought this was in any way his concern. Best to have shut up however you do get the impression he is still incredibly bitter about Hibs for some reason.

Probably to do with bonuses at that final.

[JimBHibees]

At last. A Journalist who actually gets it!


Incredible News: Hibs won't sell best player to title rival. (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13506029.Spiers_on_Sport__incredible_news_____Hibs _won___t_sell_best_player_to_title_rival/?ref=mmpg)


Thank you Graham Spiers.

:aok:

Got to laugh at the opportunity they had last season though.

"Last summer they had the perfect chance to do so – Allan came to Ibrox as a free agent, with a keenness to join – but Rangers turned him away. It is something the club now – evidently – bitterly regrets".

[greenginger]

It's only now, as the dust settles, that the REAL story starts to show its face

Dave King can't afford Scott Allan

His "off the radar" wealth amounts to £225k

And his stadium is crumbling, needs money spent on it

#justsaying

Anyone done a few calcs. on when Sevco money will run out based on last years figures and the changes made.

Last season they started with £ 5 million of share issue money in the bank, added season ticket money , and got £ 800K for a player to Brentford. Then they had to go to Ashley for a loan by January.

This year no £ 5 million, slightly more season ticket sales if reports are to be believed, 12 players out and about 7 in but adding the wages of Warburton and Weir will produce a similar wage cost I would guess.
There's Ashley's £ 5 million, compensation the two directors fired by King, London court costs, and a few other things I can't recall.

It all points to me that the cash will be gone by Christmas unless they get another share issue or find a sugar daddy.

[Keith_M]

Anyone done a few calcs. on when Sevco money will run out based on last years figures and the changes made.

Last season they started with £ 5 million of share issue money in the bank, added season ticket money , and got £ 800K for a player to Brentford. Then they had to go to Ashley for a loan by January.

This year no £ 5 million, slightly more season ticket sales if reports are to be believed, 12 players out and about 7 in but adding the wages of Warburton and Weir will produce a similar wage cost I would guess.
There's Ashley's £ 5 million, compensation the two directors fired by King, London court costs, and a few other things I can't recall.

It all points to me that the cash will be gone by Christmas unless they get another share issue or find a sugar daddy.


McCoist and his assistant's wages are also still being paid until December.

[greenginger]

McCoist and his assistant's wages are also still being paid until December.


Yeah, that's why I count Warburton and Weir as an add on to last years costs.. :aok:

[Keith_M]

Yeah, that's why I count Warburton and Weir as an add on to last years costs.. :aok:


Ah, OK, I get ya.


In essence, they look well humped.


:greengrin

[magpie1892]

Are they questioning Dave King or too busy sticking the boot into Hibs for denying Allan a move to them?

I assume that's a rhetorical question.

[brog]

In shock news there doesn't appear to be anything on the back page of the Sun about Scott Allan!

Wishful thinking to think this could be the media starting to lose interest as they know he's not joining them?

The DR also states that AS signing a new deal kills off any chance of SA joining Sevco! Finally it's beginning to dawn on them that Hibs will not roll over, mind you Sevco's ludicrous bids made it an easy call. I've also had lots of messages from fans of other Scottish clubs, including them, congratulating Hibs on doing this. Now we all need to get behind our club!

[magpie1892]

McCoist and his assistant's wages are also still being paid until December.

Combined cost: £21k/week.

Pleasing.

[Bostonhibby]

It's only now, as the dust settles, that the REAL story starts to show its face

Dave King can't afford Scott Allan

His "off the radar" wealth amounts to £225k

And his stadium is crumbling, needs money spent on it

#justsaying

To be fair, its a very small radar, the dot travels out to the £225k circle then disappeared of the edge into infinity....................

[LancsHibs]

The DR also states that AS signing a new deal kills off any chance of SA joining Sevco! Finally it's beginning to dawn on them that Hibs will not roll over, mind you Sevco's ludicrous bids made it an easy call. I've also had lots of messages from fans of other Scottish clubs, including them, congratulating Hibs on doing this. Now we all need to get behind our club!

Didn't buy the rag but had a look this morning, they couldn't resist printing their Hunnish readerships opinions on how bad Hibs are in not letting him go and how awful the Hibs support are!

[jacomo]

At last. A Journalist who actually gets it!


Incredible News: Hibs won't sell best player to title rival. (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13506029.Spiers_on_Sport__incredible_news_____Hibs _won___t_sell_best_player_to_title_rival/?ref=mmpg)


Thank you Graham Spiers.

:aok:

Has SA really received sectarian abuse?

SA's problem is that he has disrupted preparations for the season ahead, at exactly the point in his career that he should be knuckling down and fulfilling his potential.

I'm sure Sevco told him it's this summer or never, but the people advising him should have been able to see through that.

[Sammy7nil]

http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/13507184.St_Mirren_manager_Ian_Murray_suspects_it_ is_time_for_Hibs_to_back_down_and_sell_Scott_Allan _to_Rangers/

Check judas feeling the need to stick his nose in, gtf Ian Murray you prick.

He had the chance to sign for The Rangers he turned it down and went to Wigan for cash :confused:

[Sammy7nil]

At last. A Journalist who actually gets it!


Incredible News: Hibs won't sell best player to title rival. (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13506029.Spiers_on_Sport__incredible_news_____Hibs _won___t_sell_best_player_to_title_rival/?ref=mmpg)


Thank you Graham Spiers.

:aok:

"In whatever scenario occurs, I feel most for the player. Scott Allan is a decent lad, and a fine footballer, who has already had years of disruption in his career, even at his tender years.

He should try to spare himself any more of it"

Why feel sorry for him ? He can easily and quickly resolve this just buckle down get on with your job or find another club not called The Rangers to move to.

[BoomtownHibees]

Love how Murray says he could handle the abuse and it didn't bother him in the slightest. Is that why you resorted to giving the Hibs fans the V's at Ibrox Ian?

[Weststandwanab]

What a complete tool. Anyone with any sense understands why we can't sell Allan to the Huns.

Except for a Hun.


Love how that article says Ian Murray was 'given the honour' of a testimonial - there's more people round Leigh Griffiths' house on Christmas morning than there was at Easter Road for that game!

Brilliant !


Media interest will start again in the week leading up to 23rd August. Guaranteed

That is for sure.


Love how Murray says he could handle the abuse and it didn't bother him in the slightest. Is that why you resorted to giving the Hibs fans the V's at Ibrox Ian?

Looking forward to the fist visit of St. Mirrhun

[NAE NOOKIE]

Ian Murray seems to have a thing about us eh? He says "a lot of fans don't understand a players desire to move for more money" Well actually Ian we do, its just that we all want the club we pay to watch to keep its best players.

I would love the Sun to reproduce some of the 'sectarian' abuse the Hibs fans are allegedly handing out ...... In the minds of the Huns ( not sectarian IMO ) anything that isn't telling them how great they are automatically becomes sectarian.

[bill the hibby]

I for one cannot wait to play st.mirren...imagining the seethe from poor Ian when we hump them.

[WeeRussell]

Ian Murray seems to have a thing about us eh? He says "a lot of fans don't understand a players desire to move for more money" Well actually Ian we do, its just that we all want the club we pay to watch to keep its best players.

I would love the Sun to reproduce some of the 'sectarian' abuse the Hibs fans are allegedly handing out ...... In the minds of the Huns ( not sectarian IMO ) anything that isn't telling them how great they are automatically becomes sectarian.

Aye he's beginning to get on my wick - loved him as a player as well.

Re the abuse - the quotes I've read weren't sectarian (a couple were worse actually... but they were a couple - not "the Hibs support" as many would have us believe) - although think I read on here there was an IRA reference, which might be where the "sectarian" comes from. In any case, unfortunate and unpleasant to read - especially when associated with Hibs' affairs but hardly representative of our support.

[Spike Mandela]

At last. A Journalist who actually gets it!


Incredible News: Hibs won't sell best player to title rival. (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13506029.Spiers_on_Sport__incredible_news_____Hibs _won___t_sell_best_player_to_title_rival/?ref=mmpg)


Thank you Graham Spiers.

:aok:

None of the three parties, to my mind, looks particularly guilty. There is simply no equitable solution to it all.

...except paying a figure Hibs couldn't refuse. Which Rangers of course, can't afford.

[WeeRussell]

None of the three parties, to my mind, looks particularly guilty. There is simply no equitable solution to it all.

...except paying a figure Hibs couldn't refuse. Which Rangers of course, can't afford.

Hence there is no equitable solution :wink:

:flag:

[Spike Mandela]

Hence there is no equitable solution :wink:

:flag:

I see what you did there.:greengrin

[21.05.2016]

Ian Murray lost my respect when he moved to the huns and subsequently ended up putting the fingers up at the hibs support at ibrox.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Ian Murray lost my respect when he moved to the huns and subsequently ended up putting the fingers up at the hibs support at ibrox.

He was happy enough to take our money, you'd hope he might have had a bit more respect for Hibs fans. He had a lot of fundraisers from the fans and I was uncomfortable at the lack of information on what 'percentage' went to charity from these at the time.

[Eyrie]

Ian Murray seems to have a thing about us eh? He says "a lot of fans don't understand a players desire to move for more money" Well actually Ian we do, its just that we all want the club we pay to watch to keep its best players.

I would love the Sun to reproduce some of the 'sectarian' abuse the Hibs fans are allegedly handing out ...... In the minds of the Huns ( not sectarian IMO ) anything that isn't telling them how great they are automatically becomes sectarian.

They want to claim that the term "hun" is sectarian despite the fact it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the vile conduct that they claimed as part of the legacy of the previous Huns.

[marinello59]

They want to claim that the term "hun" is sectarian despite the fact it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the vile conduct that they claimed as part of the legacy of the previous Huns.

Sadly 'Nil by mouth' decided that the use of the word hun was sectarian despite that fact that it is used by supporters of nearly every club in Scotland to describe them ,the vast majority of which carry no sectarian baggage what so ever. Basically its an attempt to deflect from their own vile behaviour.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Sadly 'Nil by mouth' decided that the use of the word hun was sectarian despite that fact that it is used by supporters of nearly every club in Scotland to describe them ,the vast majority of which carry no sectarian baggage what so ever. Basically its an attempt to deflect from their own vile behaviour.

Just a ploy from the Huns to try and make everybody else look as bad as them.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Strange thing is I posted on Facebook a couple of days ago regarding the comments these idiots were making and how they were not reflective of the Hibs support. I did this purely to stop hun and yammish types jumping all over them and calling us all down to the ground. Every single yam and hun that did come on fully agreed with me about the ****** being a rag and none of them would buy it. Gets you thinking.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Struggling to understand why Murray thought this was in any way his concern. Best to have shut up however you do get the impression he is still incredibly bitter about Hibs for some reason.

Murray served Hibs well and he loved Hibs he probably didn't love taking dogs abuse from the support he loved.

[Onion]

None of the three parties, to my mind, looks particularly guilty. There is simply no equitable solution to it all.

...except paying a figure Hibs couldn't refuse. Which Rangers of course, can't afford.

:agree: The bottom line in this sorry saga is that The Rangers Football Club could not afford Scott Allan. Had they paid the market rate for the player, he would be a Sevco player by now. If Scott and his agent have an issues with anyone it should be with Sevco.

[Smartie]

I don't know why everyone has such an issue with Murray and what he's said.

He came out in the press a couple of weeks ago and said that in his opinion we were the best team in the division and his favourites to gain promotion. Nobody had a problem with what he was saying then.

He has history with both Hibs and Rangers, was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer. I don't really have a problem with that at all.

He supported us as a boy and had 2 spells as a player with us. He was wholehearted enough in his second spell with us for me to manage to forgive him for the dubious free transfer to Rangers the first time around.

He owes us nothing - he's the St Mirren manager and should (and no doubt will be) fully committed to them this season. He might have a fondness for us and want to manage us one day but that isn't going to happen unless he makes a good job of things at St Mirren and is totally focussed on what he's doing there. Ex-players, former fans etc don't owe clubs anything. Only current employees do.

I'd like Scott Allan to think a bit about this.

[MWHIBBIES]

Murray served Hibs well and he loved Hibs he probably didn't love taking dogs abuse from the support he loved.Shouldn't have left for Rangers then, he deserved all the abuse he got for that.

[JimBHibees]

Murray served Hibs well and he loved Hibs he probably didn't love taking dogs abuse from the support he loved.

He would have been extremely naive to have thought anything else would have happened. What did he expect to be chaired shoulder high with garlands of flowers thrown at his feet. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

I don't know why everyone has such an issue with Murray and what he's said.

He came out in the press a couple of weeks ago and said that in his opinion we were the best team in the division and his favourites to gain promotion. Nobody had a problem with what he was saying then.

He has history with both Hibs and Rangers, was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer. I don't really have a problem with that at all.

He supported us as a boy and had 2 spells as a player with us. He was wholehearted enough in his second spell with us for me to manage to forgive him for the dubious free transfer to Rangers the first time around.

He owes us nothing - he's the St Mirren manager and should (and no doubt will be) fully committed to them this season. He might have a fondness for us and want to manage us one day but that isn't going to happen unless he makes a good job of things at St Mirren and is totally focussed on what he's doing there. Ex-players, former fans etc don't owe clubs anything. Only current employees do.

I'd like Scott Allan to think a bit about this.

Not sure I have much of an issue with what he said rather than as St Mirren manager what has it got to do with him.

[jacomo]

I don't know why everyone has such an issue with Murray and what he's said.

He came out in the press a couple of weeks ago and said that in his opinion we were the best team in the division and his favourites to gain promotion. Nobody had a problem with what he was saying then.

He has history with both Hibs and Rangers, was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer. I don't really have a problem with that at all.

He supported us as a boy and had 2 spells as a player with us. He was wholehearted enough in his second spell with us for me to manage to forgive him for the dubious free transfer to Rangers the first time around.

He owes us nothing - he's the St Mirren manager and should (and no doubt will be) fully committed to them this season. He might have a fondness for us and want to manage us one day but that isn't going to happen unless he makes a good job of things at St Mirren and is totally focussed on what he's doing there. Ex-players, former fans etc don't owe clubs anything. Only current employees do.

I'd like Scott Allan to think a bit about this.

I think the point is that SA is NOT totally focused on his current job, he's had his head turned.

Murray seems to be saying that Hibs should just let him leave. As a former player, he should also understand that players have a responsibility to fulfil their contracts and represent their current club in a respectful way, regardless of their private wishes.

Always quite like Ian Murray but he's made a meal of things here.

[dangermouse]

Sadly 'Nil by mouth' decided that the use of the word hun was sectarian despite that fact that it is used by supporters of nearly every club in Scotland to describe them ,the vast majority of which carry no sectarian baggage what so ever. Basically its an attempt to deflect from their own vile behaviour.

Hun (noun) A member of a warlike Asiatic nomadic people who invaded and ravaged Europe in the 4th-5th centuries.

Quite apt really but as you say not sectarian.

[jacomo]

Just a ploy from the Huns to try and make everybody else look as bad as them.

:agree:

Nil by Mouth lost all credibility with that decision.

Any mildly perjorative nick names for fans of the club formerly known as Rangers are 'sectarian'? Aye right.

[Just Alf]

Paul Barnes ‏@STVPaul 29m29 minutes ago
More from Alan Stubbs: "My relationship with Scott is very good. But nobody sells to their biggest rivals. Not when you've got ambitions.

[Stevie Reid]

From the John McGinn story on BBC - sorry if already posted: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33714016

Allan has a year to run on his Hibs contract and Stubbs is sure last season's Championship Player of the Year can continue to make a positive contribution.


"I understand Scott's position completely, I don't dismiss it one bit," he explained. "I understand where he's coming from, but people have to respect the position of the football club.
"We have been very open and honest from day one.


"I will still look after Scott Allan, he is still part of my plans. I will not disregard Scott or any player just because of the chain of events. I have the utmost respect for him as a footballer and a person. Why should that change? I won't allow myself to do that, it wouldn't be the right thing."


Chief executive Leeann Dempster added: "Scott has every right to put in a transfer request and the club has every right to reject it. He's still a Hibernian player, we will continue to look after him and he's still a very big part of our squad here."

[jacomo]

From the John McGinn story on BBC - sorry if already posted: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33714016

Allan has a year to run on his Hibs contract and Stubbs is sure last season's Championship Player of the Year can continue to make a positive contribution.


"I understand Scott's position completely, I don't dismiss it one bit," he explained. "I understand where he's coming from, but people have to respect the position of the football club.
"We have been very open and honest from day one.


"I will still look after Scott Allan, he is still part of my plans. I will not disregard Scott or any player just because of the chain of events. I have the utmost respect for him as a footballer and a person. Why should that change? I won't allow myself to do that, it wouldn't be the right thing."


Chief executive Leeann Dempster added: "Scott has every right to put in a transfer request and the club has every right to reject it. He's still a Hibernian player, we will continue to look after him and he's still a very big part of our squad here."

Grown up response from our leaders.

[Billy Whizz]

Should get him involved on Saturday. As we're keeping him, need to get him match fit as soon as possible

[Brightside]

Hun (noun) A member of a warlike Asiatic nomadic people who invaded and ravaged Europe in the 4th-5th centuries.

Quite apt really but as you say not sectarian.

The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.

[Ozyhibby]

They want to claim that the term "hun" is sectarian despite the fact it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the vile conduct that they claimed as part of the legacy of the previous Huns.

Didn't we call the Germans it and half of them are Catholic?

[Ozyhibby]

Should get him involved on Saturday. As we're keeping him, need to get him match fit as soon as possible

Yes. If he's staying then the quicker he gets back playing the better. It's in his best interests to keep performing.

[K-Zazu]

The way hibs conduct themselves nowadays is nothing short of excellent. Long may it continue

[greenginger]

The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.


Well we will just have to find a new word for them .

" Sevconians " maybe :greengrin

[silverhibee]

Not sure I have much of an issue with what he said rather than as St Mirren manager what has it got to do with him.

Ex Hibs player now a manager in the same league as us, media ask him for his side of things and he gives it, Riordan was in the paper on Saturday giving his side of things after the press (i pressume) got in touch with him and done a story on the SA saga.

Murray should have just said as the St Mirren manager, really nothing to do with me, I'm more concentrating on my team at this moment in time and not got involved in it.

[oldbutdim]

Looking forward to the fist visit of St. Mirrhun
:Ummm:

It's a family site mate.




The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.

The use of the word makes it insulting or offensive no? Hardly sectarian.

If we called them dirty Sevco *******s, that would surely not be sectarian - simply offensive.


To some.
:wink:

[Stokesy's on fire]

Shouldn't have left for Rangers then, he deserved all the abuse he got for that.

Joining the Devils 11 is poor....but again it comes down to money and it always will. i'm not defending his move i remember being really hacked off when he was leaving us for the now dead Glasgow Rangers

[Stokesy's on fire]

The way hibs conduct themselves nowadays is nothing short of excellent. Long may it continue

So true very happy with the way Hibs are dealing with the devil that is Sevco

[CropleyWasGod]

The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.

Neither is sectarian unless it's meant as such.

They both have clear, un-sectarian, original meanings.

[hibees 7062]

Ex Hibs player now a manager in the same league as us, media ask him for his side of things and he gives it, Riordan was in the paper on Saturday giving his side of things after the press (i pressume) got in touch with him and done a story on the SA saga.

Murray should have just said as the St Mirren manager, really nothing to do with me, I'm more concentrating on my team at this moment in time and not got involved in it.

Has he applied for THE job and been knocked back maybe ?

[Brightside]

Neither is sectarian unless it's meant as such.

They both have clear, un-sectarian, original meanings.

Indeed. We are in agreement. They both became sectarian due to their use during the trouble etc. Lets just call them knuckle dragging puddle drinkers.

[Bostonhibby]

Well we will just have to find a new word for them .

" Sevconians " maybe :greengrin
The team formerly known as Glasgow rangers works for me in the present tense, past tense I am particularly fond of the now defunct Glasgow rangers.

[bill the hibby]

Got told earlier that allan was offered a pretty hefty wage rise by hibs to sign an extension. 5k a week to be exact.

[TheReg!]

What happens when the window closes and SA is still with us??? Do we think that he will recind his transfer application? I hope this happens to be honest, I can see that he has had his head turned but if he and us put it behind us for the rest of the season then we should be right up there.

[MyJo]

From the John McGinn story on BBC - sorry if already posted: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33714016

Allan has a year to run on his Hibs contract and Stubbs is sure last season's Championship Player of the Year can continue to make a positive contribution.


"I understand Scott's position completely, I don't dismiss it one bit," he explained. "I understand where he's coming from, but people have to respect the position of the football club.
"We have been very open and honest from day one.


"I will still look after Scott Allan, he is still part of my plans. I will not disregard Scott or any player just because of the chain of events. I have the utmost respect for him as a footballer and a person. Why should that change? I won't allow myself to do that, it wouldn't be the right thing."


Chief executive Leeann Dempster added: "Scott has every right to put in a transfer request and the club has every right to reject it. He's still a Hibernian player, we will continue to look after him and he's still a very big part of our squad here."

Stubbs is a better man than me, let's hope Allan is as well if he is going to continue to be part of our team.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.

The word has been used for as long as I can remember to refer to Rangers and their supporters. Its not a word I have ever used, or seen used, to describe protestants ..... The word is not sectarian .... if the folk who followed Rangers, or who now follow 'The Rangers' have decided that its sectarian because we use it to describe them that says a lot more about their bigotry than ours, or that of any other club who use the word, of which there are many.

What other words or phrases are going to be deemed sectarian because it upsets the bigots?

Sevco?
Sevconians?
The?
Soap Dodgers?

If 'Nil by Mouth' support the Huns in this they should change their name to 'Nil by Brain'

Huns they are and always will be ......... Huns, Huns, Huns, Huns, Huns ...... :aok:

[CropleyWasGod]

Got told earlier that allan was offered a pretty hefty wage rise by hibs to sign an extension. 5k a week to be exact.

If that's the case, there will be a queue of agents and their clients outside LD's office tomorrow morning.

I don't think she's that daft.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Murray served Hibs well and he loved Hibs he probably didn't love taking dogs abuse from the support he loved.

Lets not forget him giving Hibs fans the "finger", whilst trying to endear himself to the hordes of thickos......

[Baldy Foghorn]

Got told earlier that allan was offered a pretty hefty wage rise by hibs to sign an extension. 5k a week to be exact.

Don't know who is feeding you this info, but it ain't true......

[bill the hibby]

Don't know who is feeding you this info, but it ain't true......

Well if you know for certain then that's fair enough it must not be true but he's been right about most things he's told me.

[Brightside]

The word has been used for as long as I can remember to refer to Rangers and their supporters. Its not a word I have ever used, or seen used, to describe protestants ..... The word is not sectarian .... if the folk who followed Rangers, or who now follow 'The Rangers' have decided that its sectarian because we use it to describe them that says a lot more about their bigotry than ours, or that of any other club who use the word, of which there are many.

What other words or phrases are going to be deemed sectarian because it upsets the bigots?

Sevco?
Sevconians?
The?
Soap Dodgers?

If 'Nil by Mouth' support the Huns in this they should change their name to 'Nil by Brain'

Huns they are and always will be ......... Huns, Huns, Huns, Huns, Huns ...... :aok:


The graffiti sprayed all over Ireland would say different. Its exactly the same as Taig. Both are mocking based on the persons religion. Non football fans are still called Huns and Taigs, Feniens etc. Nothing to do with Football.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Well if you know for certain then that's fair enough it must not be true but he's been right about most things he's told me.

:aok:

[MSK]

Well if you know for certain then that's fair enough it must not be true but he's been right about most things he's told me.Do you believe Allan was offered 5k a week ?

[Nutmegged]

Well if you know for certain then that's fair enough it must not be true but he's been right about most things he's told me.

Bill, I'm not in the know in this situation and don't know anyone else in the know but simple logic tells us that Hibs haven't paid that kind of wage to a footballer ever unless the initial SKY money from 1999-2002 was completely abused, our top earner would be lucky to be on about £70-80k per year, to believe we would then bump someone up to around £250k+ per year, all the while sitting in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football is utter fantasy stuff mate

[Billy Whizz]

Well if you know for certain then that's fair enough it must not be true but he's been right about most things he's told me.

Is this the same guy who told you Stubbs would walk if Allan was sold to Rangers?

[bill the hibby]

Do you believe Allan was offered 5k a week ?

Na probably not, seems like it would be totally beyond our financial capabilities. But if he was offered an extension it would be interesting to see how much

[bill the hibby]

Is this the same guy who told you Stubbs would walk if Allan was sold to Rangers?

Not the same guy, it was the guy who told me a week ago that mcginn would be signing

[Ozyhibby]

Bill, I'm not in the know in this situation and don't know anyone else in the know but simple logic tells us that Hibs haven't paid that kind of wage to a footballer ever unless the initial SKY money from 1999-2002 was completely abused, our top earner would be lucky to be on about £70-80k per year, to believe we would then bump someone up to around £250k+ per year, all the while sitting in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football is utter fantasy stuff mate

Sauzee was on £8k a week and Latapy just a little bit less.

[bigwheel]

Sauzee was on £8k a week and Latapy just a little bit less.


aye...maybe we should have signed that Sky renewal rather than head to Setanta...those were the days! :-)

[H18S NX]

From the John McGinn story on BBC - sorry if already posted: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33714016

Allan has a year to run on his Hibs contract and Stubbs is sure last season's Championship Player of the Year can continue to make a positive contribution.


"I understand Scott's position completely, I don't dismiss it one bit," he explained. "I understand where he's coming from, but people have to respect the position of the football club.
"We have been very open and honest from day one.


"I will still look after Scott Allan, he is still part of my plans. I will not disregard Scott or any player just because of the chain of events. I have the utmost respect for him as a footballer and a person. Why should that change? I won't allow myself to do that, it wouldn't be the right thing."


Chief executive Leeann Dempster added: "Scott has every right to put in a transfer request and the club has every right to reject it. He's still a Hibernian player, we will continue to look after him and he's still a very big part of our squad here." i dont think Scott allen has that for you mr Stubbs

[Nutmegged]

Sauzee was on £8k a week and Latapy just a little bit less.

That 3 year period was mental but theres been nothing close to it before or since

[Iain G]

i dont think Scott allen has that for you mr Stubbs

He is a class act that Mr Stubbs :agree:

[liamh2202]

The graffiti sprayed all over Ireland would say different. Its exactly the same as Taig. Both are mocking based on the persons religion. Non football fans are still called Huns and Taigs, Feniens etc. Nothing to do with Football.


I'm a fairly well traveled guy.spent a fair bit of time in Northern Ireland and serve with people from there ( both sides) although there seems to be more of an issue with sides in Scotland nowadays . As a protestant and I have never heard hun used outside football circles except where rangers fans have used it to describe themselves as protestants. Funnily enough fenien only causes of fence if followed by something derogatory and again I have heard catholics describe themselfs as feniens . taig IMO is a completely different matter.

[hibees 7062]

That 3 year period was mental but theres been nothing close to it before or since

So was the debt it brought

[NAE NOOKIE]

The graffiti sprayed all over Ireland would say different. Its exactly the same as Taig. Both are mocking based on the persons religion. Non football fans are still called Huns and Taigs, Feniens etc. Nothing to do with Football.

Aye .. well if I ever go to Ireland I promise not to use it. I'm buggered if I'm going to bin a perfectly good insult just because a bunch of bigots, be they Protestant or Catholic, have decided to hijack it.

[K-Zazu]

What's with all this Catholic and Protestant chat?

[marinello59]

The use of the word makes it sectarian. Hun is sectarian language as also is Fenian.

Fenian is sectarian, no argument. Calling a Rangers supporter a hun is no more sectarian than calling an Aberdeen fan a sheep*******.

[CropleyWasGod]

Fenian is sectarian, no argument. Calling a Rangers supporter a hun is no more sectarian than calling an Aberdeen fan a sheep*******.

It is if you believe that the word means "catholic". In its original meaning, though, it described an Irish political, republican, movement... some of whose members were protestants.

Its meaning has changed over the years, of course.... and now those who use it as a term of endearment have no knowledge of its origins.... like so many other aspects of Irish history. :cb

[NAE NOOKIE]

What's with all this Catholic and Protestant chat?

Think one of the tabloids ( the Sun ? ) had said that some Hibs fans had been giving out sectarian abuse to or about Scott Allan .... the probability being that the word 'Huns' had been used and the poor wee souls on Follow Follow or whatever had got all upset.

[whiskyhibby]

Think one of the tabloids ( the Sun ? ) had said that some Hibs fans had been giving out sectarian abuse to or about Scott Allan .... the probability being that the word 'Huns' had been used and the poor wee souls on Follow Follow or whatever had got all upset.

Why don't you ask Police Scotland to clarify, they seem to be the new nannies if the Internet......tell them your currently driving doing 33 in a 30 zone whilst texting and they will have an armed response squad at your door by the time you get home.....[emoji6]

[Deansy]

Be funny of Newcastle came in for him, with their pocket change. Would Hibs sell to them ? :greengrin


That's easily sorted - a condition of the T/F that says 'loan-deals are not allowed to clubs in the Scotish Championship'.


Agree 100 %

Bottom line is he is Rangers daft and always has been

Most of us in that position would try and move heaven and earth to play for our boyhood heroes

If it didn't happen I would take it on the chin once the door was closed and try to prove I was the best player in the division again

Hopefully Allan does the same

That's because you're a Hibee and therefore, believe in 'Fair-play/Honesty' etc - bear in mind the type of mentality required in being a Hun and those beliefs just don't exist.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

i dont think Scott allen has that for you mr Stubbs

"Mr"? Is that not the reserve of Yams and Sevconians revering errant cult figures throughout their history?

[Bostonhibby]

Fenian is sectarian, no argument. Calling a Rangers supporter a hun is no more sectarian than calling an Aberdeen fan a sheep*******.
I always thought hun fitted their fanbase rather well. The interpretation of the term I use was used to describe the arrogant supremacist fascists who fought for their one dimensional view of the world before and during the second world war.

[marinello59]

It is if you believe that the word means "catholic". In its original meaning, though, it described an Irish political, republican, movement... some of whose members were protestants.

Its meaning has changed over the years, of course.... and now those who use it as a term of endearment have no knowledge of its origins.... like so many other aspects of Irish history. :cb

I am aware of its origins but it is used as a pejorative term against Catholics so in that sense it has changed it's meaning. There is an argument to be made that the meaning of the term 'hun' has also changed over the years in a similar way but given that the vast majority of people using it are themselves Protestant I don't see that it holds water.

[Scott Allan Key]

I always thought hun fitted their fanbase rather well. The interpretation of the term I use was used to describe the arrogant supremacist fascists who fought for their one dimensional view of the world before and during the second world war.

How about 'orcs'? I can't watch Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy without thinking of Celtic and Rangers' handsome support. And not sectarian.

[Bostonhibby]

How about 'orcs'? I can't watch Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy without thinking of Celtic and Rangers' handsome support. And not sectarian.
I can see a few orcs objecting to being compared to your average hun but facially there's certainly a family likeness across both sides of the divide so why not?

[Kojock]

Why don't you ask Police Scotland to clarify, they seem to be the new nannies if the Internet......tell them your currently driving doing 33 in a 30 zone whilst texting and they will have an armed response squad at your door by the time you get home.....[emoji6]

So your exceeding the speed limit whilst texting and phoning the police at the same time, no wonder they would be round at your door pronto they would think an octopus has escaped from Deep sea World.

[whiskyhibby]

So your exceeding the speed limit whilst texting and phoning the police at the same time, no wonder they would be round at your door pronto they would think an octopus has escaped from Deep sea World.

Obviously telling them by text...........

[Kojock]

Obviously telling them by text...........

Nah your not getting away that easily, "tell them whilst texting" suggests different. :wink:

[whiskyhibby]

Nah your not getting away that easily, "tell them whilst texting" suggests different. :wink:

Alright, you got me bang to rights [emoji6]

[Deansy]

I always thought hun fitted their fanbase rather well. The interpretation of the term I use was used to describe the arrogant supremacist fascists who fought for their one dimensional view of the world before and during the second world war.

Ditto - as told to me by my Grand-dad.

[emerald green]

It is if you believe that the word means "catholic". In its original meaning, though, it described an Irish political, republican, movement... some of whose members were protestants.

Its meaning has changed over the years, of course.... and now those who use it as a term of endearment have no knowledge of its origins.... like so many other aspects of Irish history. :cb

Correct. The Fenian Brotherhood was an organisation dedicated to the establishment of an independent Irish republic in the 19th century. This group was founded in the United States of America in 1848. It had nothing to do with the Catholic church or Catholicism. It was a political organisation.

The term Fenian has been and is used as a demeaning term for Irish Catholics and Catholics in general by certain elements in society particularly in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

It's quite easy to learn things like this if one can be bothered reading, or using the internet. But many of the peepul are too ignorant and bigoted, and are happy to continue with their own warped agenda sadly.

[Hamish]

On Sky Sports Adverts just now with AS reiterating that he is quite happy for Scott to run down his contract.

[H18S NX]

"Mr"? Is that not the reserve of Yams and Sevconians revering errant cult figures throughout their history? eh? it was about me showing our manager respect

[emerald green]

Anyway, why is Ian Murray, the manager of St Mirren FC, commenting in a newspaper about one of Hibs players? That is disrespectful. Scott Allan is not his player so he should keep his mouth shut on matters like this.

Is he the next one jumping on the bandwagon in an attempt to undermine Hibs before the season has started?

[Onion]

Anyway, why is Ian Murray, the manager of St Mirren FC, commenting in a newspaper about one of Hibs players? That is disrespectful. Scott Allan is not his player so he should keep his mouth shut on matters like this.

Is he the next one jumping on the bandwagon in an attempt to undermine Hibs before the season has started?

:agree: Always thought Murray was one of the brighter players of his time and a potential Hibs manager in the making. Seems like he doesn't know what it means to be a club manager and plenty of chairmen will have taken note, not least Hibernian FC. Career limiting stuff.