Scott Allan - signs a 4 year deal with Celtic

[Thecat23]

Modern football is pretty much about player power / agents sadly.

Spot on!

[matty_f]

Rangers can expect Allan there all they like, Hibs have him under contract so unless Hibs say "aye" then it matters not a bit what the ****ing Huns expect.

[Pretty Boy]

IMHO this is all about whether SA wants to go or not.

I'm quite sure that LD doesn't want to or would sell if she had the choice.

However.....worst case scenario...he goes....he's been brilliant in the most part for us but we wouldn't fall apart without him and I'm sure most of us are confident in Stubbsys ability in getting in a few decent replacements should he be given the candy to spend. And how much would it benefit if we were to hold onto him and he did want a move to them?

I understand folks frustrations IF we do sell, including my own but I'd still go and watch the Hibs. We aren't SA FC.

GGTTH

It's not just about bringing in a couple of replacements though. That would set us back a couple of weeks at best. We'd go from having 3 new signings having not kicked a ball in pre season to 5 or 6. How long does it take to get a new midfield up to speed that has had a whole pre season based on 2 key players?

This is about far more than 1 player here and fine well Rangers know it. The timing of the bid and the manner of it after a few days increased press speculation stinks. It's all about causing us as much unrest as possible.

[QMU-1875]

Lots of posters look resigned to defeat here. There's talk of people being done with Hibs if they do this as its business suicide. I totally understand that however, if the guy want to pull on blue and makes that clear, he has to go as he'd be a rotten apple as well as our best player.

I got called a drama queen for voicing a little concern regarding the pre season prep, injuries and Allen saga. Can anyone really say we are in pole position to get promoted here...

You got called a drama queen because only one player has been injured

[21.05.2016]

Selling to Rangers would wipe away so much of the good that hibs have doe recently in bringing the fans back to the club and it would undermine the clubs statement that our aim this season is to win the league.

I would be extremely disappointed in the club if we were to sell our best player to our biggest title rivals.

[truehibernian]

Me too.

Silvs, would you take the 'Celtic 3' for Allan ?

Or three walnut whips for a chocolate orange (no The Rangers pun intended with use of orange :greengrin)

[Thecat23]

Rangers can expect Allan there all they like, Hibs have him under contract so unless Hibs say "aye" then it matters not a bit what the ****ing Huns expect.

Exactly! Hibs just need to stay strong and show that they aren't the power house they think they are and ram it up them.

[silverhibee]

According to my sauces they are deffo going to try and expect them to go back again tonight or tomorrow morning. I'm away to cut the phone lines at Leannes house!

Remember and cut the right persons line as it is Leeann.

[Mathias Jack]

I'm hearing there is a very good chance he's off! If he doesn't go I'll be very, very surprised! The fact the media called some of the Rangers players to ask them how they feel about "Allan joining" says to me the manager is confident of getting him.

If I were Hibs is stand firm!

So, the media ask the opinion of the players as regards to the situation, and that's linked to the managers confidence of signing the player? What a load of nonsense!

The Bread Man Warburton said that this game would be an ideal pre-season warm up. If so, why try and unsettle the key man of your opposition...if it's just 'a pre-season warm up'?

The club are as thick as their fans if they think we'll sell Scott Allan to them.

[Del Boy]

Just can't see us selling to them.

I don't think Rangers would bid over a million so really no decision to make.

[SneakersO'Toole]

If this was any other club that were after SA then I would be more open to the club discussing figures given he only has one year left on his contract.

But selling last seasons player of the championship to your biggest rivals for the title before the season has started would absolutely be business suicide.

Hibs had better know what they are doing here because this is a tighrope situation. I will be fizzing if they cave in and pander these mutants. Time to prove that we mean business this season.

[Jack]

The club simply can't afford to sell him to sevco.

He's still worth more to our promotion chances sitting in our stand and playing with our development squad than playing for them.

[Peanut Shaz]

Modern football is pretty much about player power / agents

So the contract that the player/agent signed with Hibs suited at the time but now it's not quite what they wanted so they move on to the next one. Wish it all so simple for Joe Bloggs in normal jobs.

[Heisenberg]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

[hibbytam]

No player is bigger than the club and if SA wants to go the we should get the best possible deal for the club...if he wants to stay then Rangers should be told to bolt...ball pretty much in Allan's court

Why should we allow our main rivals for promotion to be strengthened, while weakening ourselves?

[Del Boy]

Are Dundee Utd genuinely interested? I'd sell to them for less. We cannot sell to sevco.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

I burst out laughing there!

[matty_f]

It's been covered already but it really would be just about the single worst thing Hibs could do to the fans at this moment in time.
Telling them to **** right off, and to stay ****ed off would be a real statement of intent on the other hand.

[Del Boy]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

WTF???????

Only they could insult us with that.

[Thecat23]

So, the media ask the opinion of the players as regards to the situation, and that's linked to the managers confidence of signing the player? What a load of nonsense!

The Bread Man Warburton said this the game would be an ideal pre-season warm up. If so, why try and unsettle the key man of your opposition...if it's just 'a pre-season warm up'?


The club are as thick as their fans if they think we'll sell Scott Allan to them.

Shows exactly what the west coast media is all about. They really are a bunch of idiots. Calling players up before a player has signed is arrogant and just stupid.

[21.05.2016]

The only way I can see us selling to rangers is if Allan himself says he wants to go there. If Allan wants to go to ibrox then hibs are in a tricky situation, do they a) sell him and take a good sum or b) still refuse a sale but risk having an unhappy player.

TBH though I think Allan is happy to stay and I don't think he's going to start going in the huff if we don't sell him to rangers. He owes the club and Stubbs a lot for re-starting his career and getting him out there again so I would be suprised (and a little disappointed in him) if he started moaning and greeting for a move to the huns.

[Thecat23]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

😂😂

[Mr White]

The club simply can't afford to sell him to sevco.

He's still worth more to our promotion chances sitting in our stand and playing with our development squad than playing for them.

:agree:

[flash]

If that's true about the offer then the pressure is off.

[21.05.2016]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

I hope hibs laughed in their face! Insulting.

[Fergos]

It's not just about bringing in a couple of replacements though. That would set us back a couple of weeks at best. We'd go from having 3 new signings having not kicked a ball in pre season to 5 or 6. How long does it take to get a new midfield up to speed that has had a whole pre season based on 2 key players?

This is about far more than 1 player here and fine well Rangers know it. The timing of the bid and the manner of it after a few days increased press speculation stinks. It's all about causing us as much unrest as possible.

Agree, far from ideal.

But what's our options....keep an unhappy player...IF he does want to go and there has been a suitable bid? Not sure that's the right long game for us as a club. But neither is another year in the championship of course...aye the dilemma!

Confident in both LD in getting the right £ & Stubbsy getting some decent replacements however.

GGTTH

[Heisenberg]

If that is what they've offered then we have nothing to worry about.

[silverhibee]

I text a poster on here early on about this. The Rangers manager expects Allan to be there by next week! I'm not going into details but we will be very lucky if he's still with us!

I can't believe it myself, but Allan could well be a Huns player come next week!

Hibs say he is going nowhere, i believe Hibs on this one, no way will we sell to the new club, i have faith in Leeann Dempster to be strong on this one and keep knocking back the huns offers.

IF SA wants to go and starts causing problems then make him train with the young team and he can sit in the stand for the rest of the season.

[My_Wife_Camille]

The problem isn't necessarily Hibs losing Scott Allan though, the problem would be Rangers signing him. As someone mentioned, we should do whatever deal is best for the club and I would go as far to say that no deal whatsoever would be good for the club if it includes Scott Allan playing at Ibrox this season.

[Gmack7]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

Is this a loan fee for 1 week

[lord bunberry]

I hope hibs laughed in their face! Insulting.
It is considering we turned down a bigger bid from Dundee Utd

[SneakersO'Toole]

The club simply can't afford to sell him to sevco.

He's still worth more to our promotion chances sitting in our stand and playing with our development squad than playing for them.

Best post in the whole thread. This is all the club need to know from the fans.

Tell these knuckle dragging windae lickers to bolt.

[Pretty Boy]

£100 000?

Surely Allan can't want to sign for a team who think so little of him.

[Boydyhfc]

Hibs say he is going nowhere, i believe Hibs on this one, no way will we sell to the new club, i have faith in Leeann Dempster to be strong on this one and keep knocking back the huns offers.

IF SA wants to go and starts causing problems then make him train with the young team and he can sit in the stand for the rest of the season.

This all day long.

[Ronniekirk]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.
Never read it ,so would not give what they say any credance That sort of figure would be an insult and don't think even rangers would as stupid to come in so low

[Thecat23]

Hibs say he is going nowhere, i believe Hibs on this one, no way will we sell to the new club, i have faith in Leeann Dempster to be strong on this one and keep knocking back the huns offers.

IF SA wants to go and starts causing problems then make him train with the young team and he can sit in the stand for the rest of the season.

Dempster is the one good thing that could stop this. If Allan wants to leave though I'd prob do the same and let him train with the kids.

[.Sean.]

I'd bet my bawsack Dempster won't sell him to that mob.

One chance and its ****ing nae chance how stupid do you think Dempster is??

[truehibernian]

£100 000?

Surely Allan can't want to sign for a team who think so little of him.

....or whose fans only a few weeks ago were quite happy to throw cans, litter and bog roll at him throughout 90 minutes :rolleyes::greengrin

[matty_f]

Agree, far from ideal.

But what's our options....keep an unhappy player...IF he does want to go and there has been a suitable bid? Not sure that's the right long game for us as a club. But neither is another year in the championship of course...aye the dilemma!

Confident in both LD in getting the right £ & Stubbsy getting some decent replacements however.

GGTTH

I think Allan has too good a relationship with Stubbs to spit the dummy. Hibs are in an excellent position to keep their position in this case.

[silverhibee]

What if Allan wants to leave though?

Leeann tells him and his agent if he wants to leave then fair enough, but I'm pretty sure Hibs will be telling them it won't be to The Rangers.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Best post in the whole thread. This is all the club need to know from the fans.

Tell these knuckle dragging windae lickers to bolt.

The Club are well aware of fan's feelings on this one....

[SurferRosa]

The Sun are saying the offer was £100,000.

Aye,that sounds more like it.

[silverhibee]

Utd offered 180k

did they not come back with a final £350k bid and it was rejected.

[bingo70]

I support Hibernian football club, not Scott Allan. If the club decide it's in our interests to sell him then so be it, I, surprised so many are talking about nit going back if he's sold. He's a good player but he's no that good. Hearts managed to win the league without him last year.

Its easy to say we shouldn't sell at any price but if Allan decides he wants to go there, puts a transfer request in and potentially threatens to sign a pre contract in January We need to consider offers and try to get the best price we can.

Imo he'll be a rangers player by the start of the season.

[Heisenberg]

Never read it ,so would not give what they say any credance That sort of figure would be an insult and don't think even rangers would as stupid to come in so low

They get quite a lot spot on in regards to Hibs to be fair.

[Thecat23]

did they not come back with a final £350k bid and it was rejected.

If they did and Allan handed a transfer request in tomorrow I'd then call Utd say ok take him for £350k and book him a train to Dundee! 😁

[SunshineOnLeith]

Shows exactly what the west coast media is all about. They really are a bunch of idiots. Calling players up before a player has signed is arrogant and just stupid.

They're not idiots, they know exactly what they're doing. Selling more papers and keeping their links/sources to Ibrox strong.

The idiots are the people (especially Hibs fans in this circumstance) who buy the paper/post links to the website on forums like this. More papers sold/website clicks = more money = more of the same getting published.

Similarly, you won't see many journos other than David Hardie taking such an obvious pro-Hibs line on the story (rejected within seconds, Allan has stated he's happy etc), because he's the only one who depends on being fed info from Easter Road as part of his job.

If the bid really was as low as £100k then Rangers have no intention of signing him, they're just rattling some cages. Judging by this thread, it's working spectacularly well.

[21.05.2016]

It's not just about bringing in a couple of replacements though. That would set us back a couple of weeks at best. We'd go from having 3 new signings having not kicked a ball in pre season to 5 or 6. How long does it take to get a new midfield up to speed that has had a whole pre season based on 2 key players?

This is about far more than 1 player here and fine well Rangers know it. The timing of the bid and the manner of it after a few days increased press speculation stinks. It's all about causing us as much unrest as possible.

Absolutely, much more than just one player here. Selling Allan to huns wouldn't only be handing them a massive advantage in terms of giving them our best player but as you say it would set back our preparation, not to mention give their whole club a massive lift while at the same time cause unrest at ours.

The huns know what they are doing here.

[Fergos]

I think Allan has too good a relationship with Stubbs to spit the dummy. Hibs are in an excellent position to keep their position in this case.

Aye, this could be key in the saga.

Hope your right pal.

GGTTH

[Greencore]

Why do we never buy players? We have the scheme and season ticket sales. Who was the last player we actually paid a price for?

[silverhibee]

...and my next gut instinct will be Scott handing in a transfer request

Leeann can just rip it up and say "you are going nowhere you ungrateful person, see you at training the morn"

[Thecat23]

I support Hibernian football club, not Scott Allan. If the club decide it's in our interests to sell him then so be it, I, surprised so many are talking about nit going back if he's sold. He's a good player but he's no that good. Hearts managed to win the league without him last year.

Its easy to say we shouldn't sell at any price but if Allan decides he wants to go there, puts a transfer request in and potentially threatens to sign a pre contract in January We need to consider offers and try to get the best price we can.

Imo he'll be a rangers player by the start of the season.

It's the principle though. This is Hibs biggest season in years and we need to win this league. If we sell to them what does that say to the fans who's have invested in the club??

It would be a disaster if he was sold and we simply cannot lose more fans as gates would drop to 6k max.

[Fergos]

[QUOTE=bingo70;4417814]I support Hibernian football club, not Scott Allan. If the club decide it's in our interests to sell him then so be it, I, surprised so many are talking about nit going back if he's sold. He's a good player but he's no that good. Hearts managed to win the league without him last year.

Its easy to say we shouldn't sell at any price but if Allan decides he wants to go there, puts a transfer request in and potentially threatens to sign a pre contract in January We need to consider offers and try to get the best price we can.

Hope he stays but this is a class post.

GGTTH.

[hibees 7062]

did they not come back with a final £350k bid and it was rejected.

He told Hibs he wasn't going to Utd

[IWasThere2016]

I expect SA to go to Rangers. I said this months ago and stick by this view. I sincerely hope I am wrong as he will be a HUGE loss.

Should this happen, the fans' reaction will be interesting - and I wonder how many will still believe LD, and not RP, has final sanction on the sale.

[Ronniekirk]

Leeann tells him and his agent if he wants to leave then fair enough, but I'm pretty sure Hibs will be telling them it won't be to The Rangers.
That would be my stance on it Silver Hearts have already been generous to them in accepting the money for Holt Leeann can make a name for herself and endear herself to every hi by by taking this line . one thing for sure we need to get this story off the Headlines as it will just run and run until it's put to bed one way or other .
Don't want that mob being able to come to our patch on Saturday and be able to Wyndham us up about it better we can make it clear before then it's not going to happen .

[21.05.2016]

Can't see Allan handing in a transfer request in light of this bid. He has known for ages that rangers were interested in him but he's still come out and said he's happy here. IF however he did hand a transfer request in, it should be rejected by the club and if he is childish enough to throw a huff and cause trouble then he can sit in the stand, at least then he is not out there helping rangers win games that could jepordise our title chances. Like I said in a previous post though, Allan is grateful to Stubbs and the club so I highly doubt he would throw it back in their faces like that.

[Eyrie]

Keeping Allan gives us the edge over Sevco Huns in the promotion race.

Sitting an unhappy Allan in the stand for the next nine months means we're on a level with them if we can add McGeouch.

Selling Allan to Sevco Huns strengthens them at our expenses and writes off our promotion prospects. The fee received will be far less than the lost income as supporters take the hint that the club isn't interested in going up, so decide to stay away. And the long term damage could keep us down for years.

So the club has no option but to keep Allan.

[lochhibs]

i'd like nothing more than the board coming out tomorrow and saying he wont be sold to rangers at any price.it would kill the speculation and derisory offers stone dead.

[silverhibee]

I think if the above is true it's now about holding out for the best deal possible.

Do you really believe it is true, no chance will Hibs sell SA to Rangers, Ms Dempster will keep telling them to f*** off each time they make a bid and SA can get on with his football at Hibs for the rest of the season, he has to keep playing well to keep clubs interested in him.

[bingo70]

It's the principle though. This is Hibs biggest season in years and we need to win this league. If we sell to them what does that say to the fans who's have invested in the club??

It would be a disaster if he was sold and we simply cannot lose more fans as gates would drop to 6k max.

No they wouldn't as we've already sold more season tickets than that.

People would be pissed off but if he was replaced well and we were winning folk would come back, why wouldn't they?

Stubbs might decide it's in the teams best interest to cash in rather than have an unhappy player, should the club defy Stubbs in order to appease the fans?

If we decide to sell it won't be a black and white decision based on bank statements, it'll be a difficult decision made with the teams best interests at heart.

[lord bunberry]

i'd like nothing more than the board coming out tomorrow and saying he wont be sold to rangers at any price.it would kill the speculation and derisory offers stone dead.
That's what I think will happen

[Pretty Boy]

It's the principle though. This is Hibs biggest season in years and we need to win this league. If we sell to them what does that say to the fans who's have invested in the club??

It would be a disaster if he was sold and we simply cannot lose more fans as gates would drop to 6k max.

That's where I am.

I renewed my ST last year, renewed quite literally as soon as they went on sale this year, pay into HSL, bought shares outright and buy 2 KfK STs every season.

The reason I do all of that is because I buy into what the club say they are doing. I can't see any way selling our best player to our biggest rivals this season would fit in with that. Would I walk away? Unlikely but I'd be mightily pissed off. I know a few of those above who have said they would walk away and I know they wouldn't say it lightly. If they are saying that God knows what would happen to semi regular attendees.

Thankfully I think Hibs are well aware of the potential damage this could do the the fan and club relationship so will stand firm.

[SHODAN]

Even if Allan handed in a transfer request, I would sell him to anyone but Rangers. It must be known that we will NOT sell to them.

[duffers]

It would be a ludicrous move from hibs if they were to let him go for any price. Which is why Allan will not be at Sevco this season.

jog on ya welts. Better luck trying to get up in the playoffs this season.

[IWasThere2016]

No they wouldn't as we've already sold more season tickets than that.

People would be pissed off but if he was replaced well and we were winning folk would come back, why wouldn't they?

Stubbs might decide it's in the teams best interest to cash in rather than have an unhappy player, should the club defy Stubbs in order to appease the fans?

If we decide to sell it won't be a black and white decision based on bank statements, it'll be a difficult decision made with the teams best interests at heart.

I see it the other way. If the owners weren't black and white on the finances, surely more spend would have been sanctioned to get out the Championship at the first attempt.. I am not too sure I can recall when the teams best interests have been place before the finances tbh. As far back as losing Ian Murray, Gary Caldwell, Deeks etc we have since sold when we could rather than lose players for nothing.

[Thecat23]

Be great for Hibs and Scott to come out tomorrow and say that he's staying and that's the end of it. Hibs to then say no bid will be accepted and its business as usual on sat.

Then Scott hits the winner 😎

[Greencore]

Don't know why the the Rangers fans are so confident he will sign. Didn't they think the same about Scott brown? Really don't think hibs will sell especially to the the Rangers

[IWasThere2016]

Be great for Hibs and Scott to come out tomorrow and say that he's staying and that's the end of it. Hibs to then say no bid will be accepted and its business as usual on sat.

Then Scott hits the winner 

:pray:

[3pm]

Be great for Hibs and Scott to come out tomorrow and say that he's staying and that's the end of it. Hibs to then say no bid will be accepted and its business as usual on sat.

Then Scott hits the winner 

And in real life.... :greengrin

[Thecat23]

That's where I am.

I renewed my ST last year, renewed quite literally as soon as they went on sale this year, pay into HSL, bought shares outright and buy 2 KfK STs every season.

The reason I do all of that is because I buy into what the club say they are doing. I can't see any way selling our best player to our biggest rivals this season would fit in with that. Would I walk away? Unlikely but I'd be mightily pissed off. I know a few of those above who have said they would walk away and I know they wouldn't say it lightly. If they are saying that God knows what would happen to semi regular attendees.

Thankfully I think Hibs are well aware of the potential damage this could do the the fan and club relationship so will stand firm.

Same here PB and like you just said I'm sure the club know how big a deal this would be if they sold them. They would be cutting their own throats and what folk are forgetting is Stubbs may then turn around and say I'm not staying beyond this season as the board just sell my best players and went back on everything they promised the fans.

[SHODAN]

I see it the other way. If the owners weren't black and white on the finances, surely more spend would have been sanctioned to get out the Championship at the first attempt.. I am not too sure I can recall when the teams best interests have been place before the finances tbh. As far back as losing Ian Murray, Gary Caldwell, Deeks etc we have since sold when we could rather than lose players for nothing.

We weren't competing with Rangers for our financial future when we were selling players to them.

Now we are. Different ball game. Selling Allan to Rangers would be suicide.

[Thecat23]

And in real life.... :greengrin

😁

[Jim44]

The only way I can see us selling to rangers is if Allan himself says he wants to go there. If Allan wants to go to ibrox then hibs are in a tricky situation, do they a) sell him and take a good sum or b) still refuse a sale but risk having an unhappy player.

TBH though I think Allan is happy to stay and I don't think he's going to start going in the huff if we don't sell him to rangers. He owes the club and Stubbs a lot for re-starting his career and getting him out there again so I would be suprised (and a little disappointed in him) if he started moaning and greeting for a move to the huns.

We have more chance of promotion with an unhappy SA at ER, even a non playing SA, than we would with a happy SA at Ibrox.

[3pm]

If folk want Hibs to write off a minimum of £500K, more folk need to buy tickets and shares.

[Thecat23]

Not selling him may just convince those who are still staying away to buy a ST or even invest in the club. It would be a great marketing ploy for Hibs to come out and say no bid will be accepted no matter the price.

Maybe then folk will finally buy into the vision Stubbs and Leeann have for the club.

[Pretty Boy]

I see the hun hordes have got #handitin trending on Twitter.

That's actually quite witty for them.

[IWasThere2016]

We weren't competing with Rangers for our financial future when we were selling players to them.

Now we are. Different ball game. Selling Allan to Rangers would be suicide.

I don't agree - but I'm going to bed so no stamina for a debate :greengrin

Also, we need also to consider "player power", SA left the Arabs after a hand full or so first team games for another side. He will be thinking with his head and his heart this time - his own/family's financial future and his heart - he will want to play for Rangers. He will push for his own interests.

[B.H.F.C]

If folk want Hibs to write off a minimum of £500K, more folk need to buy tickets and shares.

Nothing to do with the fans on this occasion. Or finances. It's purely a football matter. And they wouldn't be writing anything off because it's not money that's in the budget for the year.

[silverhibee]

Silvs, would you take the 'Celtic 3' for Allan ?

Or three walnut whips for a chocolate orange (no The Rangers pun intended with use of orange :greengrin)

No, because SA won't be leaving Hibs, just like Griffiths was never coming back to Hibs.

Chocolate orange all the way for me.

[Baldy Foghorn]

If folk want Hibs to write off a minimum of £500K, more folk need to buy tickets and shares.

In a nutshell...

[3pm]

Nothing to do with the fans on this occasion. Or finances. It's purely a football matter. And they wouldn't be writing anything off because it's not money that's in the budget for the year.

It's not 'purely a football matter' in my opinion.

[bingo70]

Not selling him may just convince those who are still staying away to buy a ST or even invest in the club. It would be a great marketing ploy for Hibs to come out and say no bid will be accepted no matter the price.

Maybe then folk will finally buy into the vision Stubbs and Leeann have for the club.

i don't understand how on one hand you can say we need to trust them and buy into their plans but on the other hand say if they decide to sell Allan to rangers then you'd have had it with the club (or words to that effect), either you trust them to make the right decisions for the club or you don't?

[truehibernian]

I see the hun hordes have got #handitin trending on Twitter.

That's actually quite witty for them.

#scotlandsshame and #scotlandsutterfootballingembarrassmenttherangersf c been trending (sadly) even before twitter PB :aok::wink:

[Peanut Shaz]

Not selling him may just convince those who are still staying away to buy a ST or even invest in the club. It would be a great marketing ploy for Hibs to come out and say no bid will be accepted no matter the price.

Maybe then folk will finally buy into the vision Stubbs and Leeann have for the club.

Could not agree more. If we hold firm it would send out a real message to the doubters that things have changed at the club. It could result in renewals, new season tickets etc. This is the boards biggest call yet.

[Thecat23]

i don't understand how on one hand you can say we need to trust them and buy into their plans but on the other hand say if they decide to sell Allan to rangers then you'd have had it with the club (or words to that effect), either you trust them to make the right decisions for the club or you don't?

Read it again. I said if they come out and say he's not for sale and prove that they mean business then folk would buy into what they are saying. If Allan is sold then it's all bull**** and we have again been taking for a ride.

Not sure what isn't clear about that?

Edit.. While Petrie is still involved I'm still wary of anything that comes from the board hope this helps.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Could not agree more. If we hold firm it would send out a real message to the doubters that things have changed at the club. It could result in renewals, new season tickets etc. This is the boards biggest call yet.

Tell me why renewals and new ST sales haven't already happened?

[Peanut Shaz]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

if we sell to Sevco!!!

[Baldy Foghorn]

if we sell to Sevco!!!

Even if we got enough to bring another 2 or 3 in?

[silverhibee]

Dempster is the one good thing that could stop this. If Allan wants to leave though I'd prob do the same and let him train with the kids.

It is Hibs that have helped him get his career back on track since we signed him, LD will be making that quite clear to him and his agent, if he wants to leave, then it can be any club apart from them and we get a fee for him, if he says he only wants to sign for them then it's training with the kids and nowhere near ER on match day.

[Thecat23]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

Sorry but fans have put hard earned cash into the club on the back of a vision of getting out this league and not selling our best players to our main rivals.

They sell they can do one. I may be alone there may be others but for me that would be the last straw after 8 years of shambles!!

[S4uzee]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

Surely you can't always see a positive side to something Hibs do?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Sorry but fans have put hard earned cash into the club on the back of a vision of getting out this league and not selling our best players to our main rivals.

They sell they can do one. I may be alone there may be others but for me that would be the last straw after 8 years of shambles!!

We'll support you ever more....Eh naw.....

[Peanut Shaz]

Tell me why renewals and new ST sales haven't already happened?

I suspect because there is still doubt that nothing has really changed. Some people still think Rod has an influence. This would surely send out a message of our intent and show we now mean business.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Surely you can't always see a positive side to something Hibs do?

Whats the problem? Is it really that bad?

[Thecat23]

It is Hibs that have helped him get his career back on track since we signed him, LD will be making that quite clear to him and his agent, if he wants to leave, then it can be any club apart from them and we get a fee for him, if he says he only wants to sign for them then it's training with the kids and nowhere near ER on match day.

Yep and hope he remembers this. Hibs pulled him from the scrap heap (sure he used those words himself) as he was watching Soccer Sat and wishing he was back playing.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I suspect because there is still doubt that nothing has really changed. Some people still think Rod has an influence. This would surely send out a message of our intent and show we now mean business.

Any excuse eh?

[3pm]

Surely you can't always see a positive side to something Hibs do?

I agree with him.

[Thecat23]

Whats the problem? Is it really that bad?

No but surely you can see why folk would have had enough?

[Baldy Foghorn]

No but surely you can see why folk would have had enough?

Nope

[bingo70]

Read it again. I said if they come out and say he's not for sale and prove that they mean business then folk would buy into what they are saying. If Allan is sold then it's all bull**** and we have again been taking for a ride.

Not sure what isn't clear about that?

So your trust for the current regime is fickle enough for it to swing based on the decision on whether to sell or keep one player?

You've been absolutely raving about Stubbs but if he thinks selling him is the right thing to do then all of a sudden you don't trust him to be doing it for the best of hibs?

Not wanting it to sound like I'm having a pop by the way, I generally like your posts abd agree with you most of the time, on this occasion though I think we just need to trust the club to do what they thinks best, if that means selling him then so be it.

[Thecat23]

We'll support you ever more....Eh naw.....

Was hoping for a debatable response but... Naw!

[truehibernian]

It is Hibs that have helped him get his career back on track since we signed him, LD will be making that quite clear to him and his agent, if he wants to leave, then it can be any club apart from them and we get a fee for him, if he says he only wants to sign for them then it's training with the kids and nowhere near ER on match day.

....oooh you are naughty silver.....but I like ya :greengrin......can Derek play centre mid :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Was hoping for a debatable response but... Naw!

What's the point, can't be doing with hysterical chat

[Peanut Shaz]

Even if we got enough to bring another 2 or 3 in?

Yes! This is about principles, showing the Glasgow teams we have a different mindset now.

[bingo70]

Nope

I'm with you, was the same with Griffiths and probably riordan too, it's like people's affection for a particular player over takes the feelings for the club. I've never understood it.

I hope he stays, I really do, but if he goes the second he's away then **** 'em, his loss.

[S4uzee]

Whats the problem? Is it really that bad?

No it's not bad that's your choice but surely there's not a positive in Hibs selling Allan

[Peanut Shaz]

Any excuse eh?

Eh no. Just read the posts on numerous threads. Many have not renewed for this reason. It's well documented.

[Thecat23]

So your trust for the current regime is fickle enough for it to swing based on the decision on whether to sell or keep one player?

You've been absolutely raving about Stubbs but if he thinks selling him is the right thing to do then all of a sudden you don't trust him to be doing it for the best of hibs?

Not wanting it to sound like I'm having a pop by the way, I generally like your posts abd agree with you most of the time, on this occasion though I think we just need to trust the club to do what they thinks best, if that means selling him then so be it.

Stubbs I think is fantastic, I don't think it would be up to him though whether Scott is sold. This may seriously piss him off for all we know Bingo! Leeann has been a breath of fresh air as well but selling Allan would honestly ruin the relationship with the fans and waste all the good that has been done.

Hibs cannot afford to drop more fans and we must get out this league. Reconstruction is apparently a cert but what if it didn't happen? What would another year out the top flight cost the club? All because we sold our best player to our rivals for the league. I just couldn't keep backing something that wasn't putting the interests of the fans or club first.

I know you aren't having a go and you feel strongly about it too, I respect that.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm with you, was the same with Griffiths and probably riordan too, it's like people's affection for a particular player over takes the feelings for the club. I've never understood it.

I hope he stays, I really do, but if he goes the second he's away then **** 'em, his loss.

Exactly, some can't see the bigger picture.....I won't go back, look at me......

[3pm]

Yes! This is about principles, showing the Glasgow teams we have a different mindset now.

Do we? We still have broadly the same number of ST holders. That tells me it's the same folk who have the same mindset either by attending or not attending ER other than a floating 750 or so.

[lochhibs]

im a bit surprised at the amount of people who think selling scott allan to rangers is acceptable.

[Baldy Foghorn]

No it's not bad that's your choice but surely there's not a positive in Hibs selling Allan

Money to allow us to bring in more player's? Negative is it?

[GreenCastle]

If this bid is true..

On Thursday Hibs need to come out and say they have rejected it - as Scott is fully committed to playing for Hibs for the rest of the season or it doesn't meet the valuation of the player.

If they don't say anything then the papers / messageboards etc will continue to speculate.

Doubt they will say he's not for sale at any price - as every player has a price.

Maybe he doesn't want to sign an extension to price himself out a move to a club that can't afford the transfer fee...

[Baldy Foghorn]

Eh no. Just read the posts on numerous threads. Many have not renewed for this reason. It's well documented.

It's an excuse though

[Thecat23]

What's the point, can't be doing with hysterical chat

I'm just trying to explain how it is to many fans myself included how it would feel to lose our best player to our main rivals when we have done many good things to bring fans back.

If that's hysterical then I am yeah!!

[S4uzee]

Exactly, some can't see the bigger picture.....I won't go back, look at me......

The bigger picture being ... Hibs look like pushovers and our promotion hopes would be severely weakened

[Spike Mandela]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

Selling last years player of the season for the Championship to our rivals for promotion would be THE most foolish transfer dealings carried out ever by Hibs imo.

If the current custodians do this I think it would represent a display of a lack of determination to achieve their stated aim of obtaining promotion. Whether it provokes hysteria on here or not I don't care but I am certain it wil have an effect on attendances and performances and whilst the board or fans would never admit it, it would show a level of defeatism and resignation that would hand the league to Rangers.


For the record I don't think the board will sell even if Scott's agent puts a full page ad in the Daily Record.

[bingo70]

No it's not bad that's your choice but surely there's not a positive in Hibs selling Allan

If Stubbs decides that's what's best and we get a good price to replace him then what's the problem?

If Stubbs decides selling him is the right thing to do, should the club over rule him to appease the fans?

I asked that question earlier but never saw a response.

[Pretty Boy]

This is all getting a bit ridiculous.

People turning on each other when absolutely **** all has happened. Hibs rejected the bid and until Rangers come back in there's not a lot we know.

Questioning who is and isn't a fan, slaughtering someone for being positive and getting all nippy with each other doesn't really serve any purpose. Sooner this is all put to bed once and for all the better imo.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Stubbs I think is fantastic, I don't think it would be up to him though whether Scott is sold. This may seriously piss him off for all we know Bingo! Leeann has been a breath of fresh air as well but selling Allan would honestly ruin the relationship with the fans and waste all the good that has been done.

Hibs cannot afford to drop more fans and we must get out this league. Reconstruction is apparently a cert but what if it didn't happen? What would another year out the top flight cost the club? All because we sold our best player to our rivals for the league. I just couldn't keep backing something that wasn't putting the interests of the fans or club first.

I know you aren't having a go and you feel strongly about it too, I respect that.

All Hibs staff work excessively hard, for the cause, they are well aware of the feelings on this matter....I honestly don't see SA being sold, however do you seriously think we would sell and not have dialogue with AS about it?

[Thecat23]

This is all getting a bit ridiculous.

People turning on each other when absolutely **** all has happened. Hibs rejected the bid and until Rangers come back in there's not a lot we know.

Questioning who is and isn't a fan, slaughtering someone for being positive and getting all nippy with each other doesn't really serve any purpose. Sooner this is all put to bed once and for all the better imo.

Well said.

He's still a hibs player and I'm hoping more than anything he will be the rest of the season.

[Peanut Shaz]

Do we? We still have broadly the same number of ST holders. That tells me it's the same folk who have the same mindset either by attending or not attending ER other than a floating 750 or so.
Agreed. But by refusing to sell SA to Rangers it would perhaps convince many that things have changed.

[Spike Mandela]

If Stubbs decides that's what's best and we get a good price to replace him then what's the problem?

If Stubbs decides selling him is the right thing to do, should the club over rule him to appease the fans?

I asked that question earlier but never saw a response.

What manager would ever decide that the right thing to do is sell his best player?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Let's see what tomorrow brings, and whether Rangers do in fact return with a higher offer. Until they make a bid that is worth discussing it's a non issue. Should they do so, then the dilemma will need to be faced: sell to a rival for a good fee or risk losing him for nothing at the end of the season. Then there's the player's wishes to factor in. We aren't in a position to say not at any price, but it would have to be a price that suits Hibs i.e. exceptional.

[Greencore]

The hibs board IMO will not want to sell SA. They will want to keep Stubbs happy. And Stubbs wants to keep SA happy. Remember hibs still need to sign Stubbs on a longer deal. What does he have left one year? So if we sell SA against Stubbs wishes then it might go against us. On the other hand what can we really do if SA wants to leave and Stubbs wants or doesn't want to keep him. We need to keep the two happy more Stubbs then Allan.

[Baldy Foghorn]

im a bit surprised at the amount of people who think selling scott allan to rangers is acceptable.

:confused:

[Green Cabbage 7]

Don't think this is going to happen, even if Scott wanted to leave, I can't see Stubbs or Leanne sanctioning a move to strengthen a direct competitor, maybe too a team down south but not them. Anyway they couldn't afford the fee.

[bingo70]

Stubbs I think is fantastic, I don't think it would be up to him though whether Scott is sold. This may seriously piss him off for all we know Bingo! Leeann has been a breath of fresh air as well but selling Allan would honestly ruin the relationship with the fans and waste all the good that has been done.

Hibs cannot afford to drop more fans and we must get out this league. Reconstruction is apparently a cert but what if it didn't happen? What would another year out the top flight cost the club? All because we sold our best player to our rivals for the league. I just couldn't keep backing something that wasn't putting the interests of the fans or club first.

I know you aren't having a go and you feel strongly about it too, I respect that.

If you were to ask Stubbs if he wants Allan to stay, the answer is undoubtedly going to be yes.

If however Stubbs speaks to Allan and he gets the impression his heart isn't in it with hibs any more or there's a suggestion he'll sign a pre contract with them in January then that's where it gets difficult and I think he'd reluctantly decide it's for the best he moves on now when we can replace him abd when we'd get most money for him.

[lord bunberry]

Money to allow us to bring in more player's? Negative is it?
I can't understand why you think selling our best player to our main rivals wouldn't be one of the worst pieces of business by the club in the last 20 years. Yes we'd be able to bring in more players, but the message it would send out is that we're not serious about winning the league. I agree the hysteria is sometimes a bit ott, but we're talking about football fans who are passionate about their club and maybe say things in the heat of the moment.

[Jim44]

There is only one question to be asked. - Is HFC's ability to function is dependent on income from the sale of Scott Allan? If the answer is yes, sell him when our valuation is reached. If the answer is no, slam the door. Sevco are absolute certainties to win automatic promotion with SA. Without SA, we could struggle to get promotion via the playoffs. If that is the case we could be destined to remain a Championship side for the foreseeable future. The one thing that is gnawing away in my mind is that, if Petrie knows that reconstruction is on the cards, he will persuade Depster and Stubb's to agree a sale.

[Thecat23]

All Hibs staff work excessively hard, for the cause, they are well aware of the feelings on this matter....I honestly don't see SA being sold, however do you seriously think we would sell and not have dialogue with AS about it?

I agree the whole club has worked hard to get us back on our feet. A manager can give his input on a player but he can't stop him being sold off! The board have the final say BF you know that yourself I imagine?

What could only sweeten this deal would be to allow him to bring in 2 or 3 more. All I know is Stubbs rates him very highly and I don't believe for a second he'd want to sell him to The Rangers.

[bingo70]

What manager would ever decide that the right thing to do is sell his best player?

Managers of most clubs do it all the time (I've just responded to another poster which maybe explains what I meant better)

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Can't believe how many people seem to have resigned themselves to this happening. Deary me. Let's hope Leeann has a bit more fight about her eh

[Baldy Foghorn]

I agree the whole club has worked hard to get us back on our feet. A manager can give his input on a player but he can't stop him being sold off! The board have the final say BF you know that yourself I imagine?

What could only sweeten this deal would be to allow him to bring in 2 or 3 more. All I know is Stubbs rates him very highly and I don't believe for a second he'd want to sell him to The Rangers.

And I don't believe for 1 second anyone at Hibs, would want to sell him to Derhun either. It's just conjecture.

[Thecat23]

If you were to ask Stubbs if he wants Allan to stay, the answer is undoubtedly going to be yes.

If however Stubbs speaks to Allan and he gets the impression his heart isn't in it with hibs any more or there's a suggestion he'll sign a pre contract with them in January then that's where it gets difficult and I think he'd reluctantly decide it's for the best he moves on now when we can replace him abd when we'd get most money for him.

If his heart isn't in it sell him but not to them Bingo. Would be one of the worst decisions the club would do imo! Other clubs want him so if he doesn't want to go to someone else he stays with us plain and simple.

I'm hoping we hear something from Hibs tomorrow and we can get back to talking football!

[TheFamous1875]

For a laddie whose sole ambition is to get back down South to England, it would be the dumbest ****in' move he could make. He's not going to Rangers.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Can't believe how many people seem to have resigned themselves to this happening. Deary me. Let's hope Leeann has a bit more fight about her eh

She has.....

[TheFamous1875]

No matter what; he absolutely cannot go to them this season. There's no way. England, Celtic, anywhere, but not there.

[Pretty Boy]

Can't believe how many people seem to have resigned themselves to this happening. Deary me. Let's hope Leeann has a bit more fight about her eh

I think a lot of that is based on experience. Generally if Celtic or Rangers want a player in Scotland then they get them.

Hibs fans in the past can testify to that and more recenty I'm sure Hearts and Dundee Utd fans can do likewise. I still don't think this is a goer and I think people on both sides of the argument need to chill out a bit but equally I can see why people are now worried.

[Thecat23]

And I don't believe for 1 second anyone at Hibs, would want to sell him to Derhun either. It's just conjecture.

At this point in time yes it is. But it's going to swing one way or another very soon and I hope we say no, no matter what price is offered.

[southern hibby]

£6k a week £500k with add ons! If Hibs sell then it's game over from me.

Me too. I live and breath Hibs and would be gutted if we sell him would seriously have to question if my money would be better off in my pocket. All the good no actually great work by the new board would be undone in one fine swoop.
I for one actually feel Hibs will not sell because if they do it would be the last straw for many fans.

GGTTH

[Thecat23]

Me too. I live and breath Hibs and would be gutted if we sell him would seriously have to question if my money would be better off in my pocket. All the good no actually great work by the new board would be undone in one fine swoop.
I for one actually feel Hibs will not sell because if they do it would be the last straw for many fans.

GGTTH

Exactly how I see it too. Surely they aren't that stupid?

[Green Cabbage 7]

Let's hope the club have a bit more steel about them! We are "HIBERNIAN FC", and sevco we don't sell to our competitor anymore, see ye!

[PatHead]

I don't expect Scott Allan to go to The Rangers unless they put in a ridiculous offer and I don't think they have the money to do that.

The only other option would be if they offered us some of their players in a swap deal and AS thought it was in our interests. Can't think of many of their players that meet that criteria.

[Radium]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-reject-100000-bid-rangers-6120383

DR reporting a £100,000 bid. TTRFC are playing games that may just come back to bite them. Both with Leeann being able to dismiss them out of turn, and their own fans asking about investment

[Spike Mandela]

Managers of most clubs do it all the time (I've just responded to another poster which maybe explains what I meant better)

Once people start rolling out the "you can't keep a disgruntled, unsettled player at the club" My heart sinks. The club needs to show a bit of balls and say "yes we bloody well can" . He is our player, contracted and we pay his wages. Get bloody on with it.

Yes we could sell him and buy one or two other players but he was the leagues player of the season last year. What if the players we sign with the money were a De Graaf, a Martin Scott or a Tom Taiwo type player? What would be the point of that, we already have the best player in the league. There is no guarantee of getting a decent replacement.

Selling Allan would be complete folly and for me it would seriously question the competency of the people running the club.....and again for the record I don't think they will.

[TowerHibs]

It's been covered already but it really would be just about the single worst thing Hibs could do to the fans at this moment in time.
Telling them to **** right off, and to stay ****ed off would be a real statement of intent on the other hand.
In all seriousness...I actually think that language would be fully accepted and embraced by us....The club.

**** RIGHT OFF.....We will not be pushed around or intimidated by you no more.

Let's get a swagger and a hatred back and get these mugs to ****

The media are using this to unsettle hibs and the fans. Let's get a statement out, a proper Braveheart raj statement out and as a club and fan base let them hear us loud and clear on Saturday to ****ing well do one. Bunch of toss pots

[Jim44]

Where does Scott Allan stand in this scenario? He has publicly stated that he is happy to stay at Hibs and is determined to fulfil his contract and help Hibs win promotion. I don't believe for a second that he didn't know that this ***** was about to hit the fan and if he inwardly wanted to go to Ibrox and knew that he might become a Sevco player soon, why did he come out with airy fairy platitudes. I'm willing to believe he was being honest and if he does move, it will be at Hibs instigation.

[Jim44]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-reject-100000-bid-rangers-6120383

DR reporting a £100,000 bid. TTRFC are playing games that may just come back to bite them. Both with Leeann being able to dismiss them out of turn, and their own fans asking about investment

The punters on FF are delighted that the first offer is really low because in their minds they are certain he will sign and that the fee will be comparatively low.

[Baldy Foghorn]

The punters on FF are delighted that the first offer is really low because in their minds they are certain he will sign and that the fee will be comparatively low.

Derhun followers have to be the stupidest shower of erses on Gods Earth.....

[silverhibee]

Money to allow us to bring in more player's? Negative is it?

Will Hibs spend the money on more players though.

[southern hibby]

Easy solution ( not sure if SA would go for it ) is for Hibs to offer him a new contract that would make him very very rich if he signs.

Let's offer him a two year extension give him his wages as per norm what ever these may be but offer him one third to half of any bid excepted by Hibs when we agree to sell him.

Let's be honest he would go for one to two million easily with that time on his contract we could get this season plus another out of him and he would walk away a very very rich young man.

Then come Monday morning we could hold a press confrence tell the media its reference SA everyone's expecting SA to go west and we could actually have a great we laugh at the west coast media floundering for a heading to explain that to the unwashed.

GGTTH

[Baldy Foghorn]

Will Hibs spend the money on more players though.

Why wouldn't they?

[anon1875]

The bid has been rejected. If we sell to Rangers at any cost I won't be back.

[Pretty Boy]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-reject-100000-bid-rangers-6120383

DR reporting a £100,000 bid. TTRFC are playing games that may just come back to bite them. Both with Leeann being able to dismiss them out of turn, and their own fans asking about investment

Aah the lifelong fan and affection for the club chat has started.

On Friday we'll read how he's bewildered and frustrated by Hibs stance.

[Green Cabbage 7]

The punters on FF are delighted that the first offer is really low because in their minds they are certain he will sign and that the fee will be comparatively low.


Funny, I was just thinking sevco are not actually wanting him, as they can't afford him, but are trying to create a bidding war, for other interested parties, to get him sold Hence weaken us for the season!

[bingo70]

The bid has been rejected. If we sell to Rangers at any cost I won't be back.

What happens if we replace him well and win our first 10 games?

[TowerHibs]

Selling best player in the league to our main challengers.....suicide.

Andy Cole to Man U anyone

[TowerHibs]

What happens if we replace him well and win our first 10 games?

IF we replace him well. IF we win 10 games. IF IF IF IF IF IF IF

Hell of a gamble with the player of the season last year.To our main rivals. Any other player at any other team we would be taking the piss. Now some people think we are signing 3 Celtic players to replace SA.....I know the festival season is coming up but some people are mental

[Baldy Foghorn]

IF we replace him well.

Hell of a gamble with the player of the season last year.

What if SA gets injured early on in Season, it's always a gamble

[TowerHibs]

What if SA gets injured early on in Season, it's always a gamble

Sure is...less so with player of the year in your squad than your rivals. ....I'm sorry, no matter what way you look at it you have shoved another IF in there. Facts are best player in the league is in your squad and not your main rivals....that's a good thing

If Rangers sign him for tops £1m (that's the price most think he is worth on here) then what for hibs.

We will replace him for a player worth £500k or less who needs to be as good or better than SA (in view to justify selling him). If sich a player exists then why are the huns not going for such player. We know we have a top talent and player of the year in the squad, disaster time selling him to a rival. Give him to hearts for all I care.

[silverhibee]

Why wouldn't they?

Because they don't normally do it.

But pointless anyway as i expect SA to see out his contract and leave at the end of the season.

[tamig]

I think a lot of that is based on experience. Generally if Celtic or Rangers want a player in Scotland then they get them.

Hibs fans in the past can testify to that and more recenty I'm sure Hearts and Dundee Utd fans can do likewise. I still don't think this is a goer and I think people on both sides of the argument need to chill out a bit but equally I can see why people are now worried.

Not always though. I give you Steven Fletcher. That's how we need to play this one.

[silverhibee]

What happens if we replace him well and win our first 10 games?

What happens if we replace him with duds and lose our first 10 games. ?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Because they don't normally do it.

But pointless anyway as i expect SA to see out his contract and leave at the end of the season.

We have a much more manageable debt level now though....

I expect to see SA playing in Saturday and tormenting our rivals

[Baldy Foghorn]

What happens if we replace him with duds and lose our first 10 games. ?

Then the stay aways can tell us how they were right all along, and how they will never return.....

[NAE NOOKIE]

This is about more than the money. Hibs have worked very hard to build bridges with the fans and this move by the Huns, which was bound to come, is a watershed moment in that effort. We simply cannot sell to them at any price, even if Scott Allan begs to go the answer has to be no.

Any money we were to bank from the Huns would never replace the loss of our best player to our main rival or make up for the rift it would certainly cause between fans and club.

It was Hibs stated intent to keep Allan and therefor lose him at the end of the season for nothing anyway, which means they were resigned to getting nothing for him from the word go. If he signs a pre contract with them in January there is nothing Hibs can do about it, but that's Allan's choice and not Hibs fault.

Time for Hibs to do the right thing .... forget sentiment, forget money .... not selling Scott Allan to that club is the best 'business' decision Hibs could possibly make, the value of that decision will exceed any amount of money they could possibly offer in the long run.

[TowerHibs]

A wee peek om FF think it's a done deal...SA to hand in transfer request and **** right off. This is the time to let's these parasites know that they are not who they used to be. They are not the almighty gers but a club like the rest of us. We need to maintain our composure and get them down to the level they are.

The support have already jumped on the WATP gash. This is history in my eyes and hopefully hibs eyes too

[bingo70]

What happens if we replace him with duds and lose our first 10 games. ?

The poster I quoted said he'd never go back if we sold Scott Allan. I'm just trying to point out that's a pish point to make, not justify why it's a good reason to sell him.

[Ozyhibby]

Why wouldn't they?

Like when we replaced Scott Brown with Brian Kerr?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Like when we replaced Scott Brown with Brian Kerr?

Different times....

[TowerHibs]

Bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush and all that jazz

[GlasgowHibee]

An undeniably great player, but as well all know, one player doesn't make a team. Do we sacrifice him for 3 or 4, very good players?

[TowerHibs]

An undeniably great player, but as well all know, one player doesn't make a team. Do we sacrifice him for 3 or 4, very good players?

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

If we let SA go then he MUST be replaced with better. How we are getting 3 or 4 better than him is a mystery to me and sully season. Begs the question why rangers can't attract the said 3 or 4 players

[tamig]

An undeniably great player, but as well all know, one player doesn't make a team. Do we sacrifice him for 3 or 4, very good players?

Do you honestly think we could bring in 3 or 4 VERY good players for whatever we may accept from the hun? I very much doubt it. Fantasy island stuff imo.

[silverhibee]

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

:agree: :top marks

[Green Cabbage 7]

Could someone no just start a thread, "let's all laugh at sevcos offer"?

[Ozyhibby]

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

Nailed it.
Teams need star players to win things.

[southern hibby]

Some nonsense and hysterics on here, "if we sell SA I'm not going back"....Hibs fans or SA fans?

BFH, I have nothing but respect of your opinion and again what you say is spot on, however the club has publicly stated SA is going no where. People have bought into their plans with promises of SA staying and went out and bought season tickets. There is even a page on Hibs net saying I've renewed. To then sell him ( in my opinion ) is out of order and will set the fans back years with broken promises.
I still think Hibs will not sell as to do so would cause us more fans turning their backs.

GGTTH

[bingo70]

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

Yet hearts managed to win the league without him. It can be done!

I think we would be a better team If we played with wingers as that is where the smaller teams are more vulnerable abd this is where hearts got a lot of success last season. I like Scott Allan and would like him to stay but when he plays we need another 2 centre midfielders to cover him which costs us natural width.

I can't give you names of potential targets but the above is how imo we could potentially be a better team If we replaced him well.

[HoboHarry]

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

If we let SA go then he MUST be replaced with better. How we are getting 3 or 4 better than him is a mystery to me and sully season. Begs the question why rangers can't attract the said 3 or 4 players
Personally, I have faith that if he were to leave AS would have another gem up his sleeve. You really think that AS has not considered this might happen and that his scouting team does not have options in mind?

[bingo70]

Nailed it.
Teams need star players to win things.

Who was hearts star man last season?

Good teams win things, not teams that rely too much on one star player.

[TowerHibs]

Yet hearts managed to win the league without him. It can be done!

I think we would be a better team If we played with wingers as that is where the smaller teams are more vulnerable abd this is where hearts got a lot of success last season. I like Scott Allan and would like him to stay but when he plays we need another 2 centre midfielders to cover him which costs us natural width.

I can't give you names of potential targets but the above is how imo we could potentially be a better team If we replaced him well.

In all due respect that's nonsense. Hearts would have been a far far better team with him in it rather than Gomis and Bauban. They were more organised and prepared. Losing our heart beat 3 weeks before the season does nothing.

Your finding reasons not to have the best player in the league in our team. The club has move mountains in my eyes off the park to align th selves with the views of the fans. I feel LD gets us and fights for us now. Your post feels to me like your willing to accept our award winning player to go to our main rivals in what is arguably our biggest season in decades. All because the hearts never had him. We have a greater chance of promotion with him in OUR team therefore he should remain there. Quality over quantity.......

The hearts had a long term plan and it worked. We have one and to rip it up and gamble on getting THREE OR FOUR players in settled and firing all cylinders straight away is a long shot. All this while improving our rivals. Your entitled to your opinion but weaken us and strengthen rangers is wrong.

I believe hibs will tell them to bolt and tell SA to bolt also if he is not happy. Even if we get these magical 3 or 4 players who are cheaper than SA that the gers have never heard of....We should under no circumstances be strengthening our main rivals. Silly ****ing season

[truehibernian]

Could someone no just start a thread, "let's all laugh at sevcos offer"?

:aok: this

[tamig]

Personally, I have faith that if he were to leave AS would have another gem up his sleeve. You really think that AS has not considered this might happen and that his scouting team does not have options in mind?

That's a hell of a risky strategy. I don't believe Stubbs has a gem up his sleeve at all - certainly not as contingency if SA is sold. How could he be sure that player would remain available until the contingent event took place?

[Greencore]

Anyone remember when hertz were signing Scott Allan?

[Ozyhibby]

Who was hearts star man last season?

Good teams win things, not teams that rely too much on one star player.

They had a couple of young midfielders who banged in 20 goals between them.
Seems some Hibs fans are happy to sell our best player to our promotion rivals.

[HoboHarry]

That's a hell of a risky strategy. I don't believe Stubbs has a gem up his sleeve at all - certainly not as contingency if SA is sold. How could he be sure that player would remain available until the contingent event took place?
Then what is the point of having a scouting team then? The money would open up a whole new list of players who would previously out of our reach. Not that I want SA to go - I don't - but if he does we will move on like every other club in the world does. The King is dead, long live the King, so to speak.....

[Andy74]

That's a hell of a risky strategy. I don't believe Stubbs has a gem up his sleeve at all - certainly not as contingency if SA is sold. How could he be sure that player would remain available until the contingent event took place?

Yep. Not sure we have adequately replaced some players from last year yet, never mind Allan!

Anyway, no danger we will sell to them.

[GlasgowHibee]

Name them and explain why der hun not going for those 3 or 4 players who obviously cost less. (Not a pop but I hate logic like this. SA is the best player in the league)

If we let SA go then he MUST be replaced with better. How we are getting 3 or 4 better than him is a mystery to me and sully season. Begs the question why rangers can't attract the said 3 or 4 players

I'm not a football scout, but I'll try answer.

The Yams won the league at a canter last year by bringing in unknown players from foreign leagues who were able to pull them out of a hole when they needed them. Players like Ozturk, Sow and Pallardo were all signed on for FREE and looked the part in a side that ultimately strolled to the championship title.

I believe that Neilson's philosophy played a big part in signing these players too, but look at Stubbs, a manager who's come from the Premiership, who has contacts at the Premiership, and a manager who will probably end up in the Premiership too. Hibs, with Stubbs in charge, are attractive for foreigners who'd be able to use us a stepping stone for England, if good enough.

Rangers can't attract these players because they have no scouting network, and when they do try and sign foreign players, they end up being ****. Just like Ortiz, Faure, Mohsni(played in Britain, but still relevant).

Let's not limit ourselves to Scott Allan, if he wants to go, and Rangers are willing to pay big bucks for him, then let him go, and then replace him with 3/4 players of a similar standard.

[GlasgowHibee]

http://gyazo.com/71fcc85acf71e479df8cbfd79614a6c9.png

This is from his twitter, I think he's away.

[bingo70]

In all due respect that's nonsense. Hearts would have been a far far better team with him in it rather than Gomis and Bauban. They were more organised and prepared. Losing our heart beat 3 weeks before the season does nothing.

Your finding reasons not to have the best player in the league in our team. The club has move mountains in my eyes off the park to align th selves with the views of the fans. I feel LD gets us and fights for us now. Your post feels to me like your willing to accept our award winning player to go to our main rivals in what is arguably our biggest season in decades. All because the hearts never had him. We have a greater chance of promotion with him in OUR team therefore he should remain there. Quality over quantity.......

I'm trying to show there's life after Scott Allan, whether that's this summer or next year.

We don't know if hearts would have been a better team had they had Scott Allan, they would have had a better player but how would that have effected the balance of their side?

It would be far from ideal to lose Scott Allan and I'd rather we didn't but if he was to leave then it wouldn't rule out our promotion hopes like some are suggesting.

[tamig]

Then what is the point of having a scouting team then? The money would open up a whole new list of players who would previously out of our reach. Not that I want SA to go - I don't - but if he does we will move on like every other club in the world does. The King is dead, long live the King, so to speak.....

Aye, I appreciate that but I think you're maybe playing down Scott Allan's quality. In my opinion he is a top notch player with the potential to go to the very top level of the game. Players like him don't suddenly become available to us very often.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not a football scout, but I'll try answer.

The Yams won the league at a canter last year by bringing in unknown players from foreign leagues who were able to pull them out of a hole when they needed them. Players like Ozturk, Sow and Pallardo were all signed on for FREE and looked the part in a side that ultimately strolled to the championship title.

I believe that Neilson's philosophy played a big part in signing these players too, but look at Stubbs, a manager who's come from the Premiership, who has contacts at the Premiership, and a manager who will probably end up in the Premiership too. Hibs, with Stubbs in charge, are attractive for foreigners who'd be able to use us a stepping stone for England, if good enough.

Rangers can't attract these players because they have no scouting network, and when they do try and sign foreign players, they end up being ****. Just like Ortiz, Faure, Mohsni(played in Britain, but still relevant).

Let's not limit ourselves to Scott Allan, if he wants to go, and Rangers are willing to pay big bucks for him, then let him go, and then replace him with 3/4 players of a similar standard.

If it's that easy to replace someone like Scott Allan, then why are we finding it so difficult to replace Liam Craig?

[GlasgowHibee]

If it's that easy to replace someone like Scott Allan, then why are we finding it so difficult to replace Liam Craig?

Well what did Liam Craig actually contribute last year? Stubbs didn't rate him, so there's nothing to replace. :cb

[tamig]

http://gyazo.com/71fcc85acf71e479df8cbfd79614a6c9.png

This is from his twitter, I think he's away.

So some hun tramp posts on his twitter and you think he's away? Sound thought process pal.

[GlasgowHibee]

So some hun tramp posts on his twitter and you think he's away? Sound thought process pal.

He's favourited that, not just some random tweet i've pulled up. :agree:

[Greencore]

So some hun tramp posts on his twitter and you think he's away? Sound thought process pal.

Why else would he favourite the tweet then?

[HoboHarry]

Aye, I appreciate that but I think you're maybe playing down Scott Allan's quality. In my opinion he is a top notch player with the potential to go to the very top level of the game. Players like him don't suddenly become available to us very often.
No I am not but you did suggest that AS has no knowledge of the transfer market in that he had no-one in mind if SA left. I would bet you that he and his scouting team have a good number of targets who are out of our reach without the influx of cash that SA leaving would bring.

[tamig]

Well what did Liam Craig actually contribute last year? Stubbs didn't rate him, so there's nothing to replace. :cb

Liam Craig played a key role in quite a few of our top performances last season. He made a significant contribution from what I saw.

[TowerHibs]

I'm not a football scout, but I'll try answer.

The Yams won the league at a canter last year by bringing in unknown players from foreign leagues who were able to pull them out of a hole when they needed them. Players like Ozturk, Sow and Pallardo were all signed on for FREE and looked the part in a side that ultimately strolled to the championship title.

I believe that Neilson's philosophy played a big part in signing these players too, but look at Stubbs, a manager who's come from the Premiership, who has contacts at the Premiership, and a manager who will probably end up in the Premiership too. Hibs, with Stubbs in charge, are attractive for foreigners who'd be able to use us a stepping stone for England, if good enough.

Rangers can't attract these players because they have no scouting network, and when they do try and sign foreign players, they end up being ****. Just like Ortiz, Faure, Mohsni(played in Britain, but still relevant).

Let's not limit ourselves to Scott Allan, if he wants to go, and Rangers are willing to pay big bucks for him, then let him go, and then replace him with 3/4 players of a similar standard.
Lol ok then.

All players (pallardo excepted) were in straight away, before preseason and in bedded in a structured set up. Along with Bauban and Gomis who know each other inside out. If there are 3 or 4 players out there I would want to know why they aren't with us now.

Hibs plans this year is with SA pulling the strings. Yes he may get hurt but so can anyone. 3 or 4 "similar" players 2 weeks before the season starts means a very slow start in my eyes.

I state again....We should not be allowing ourselves to strengthen our main rivals . This is not like before when Brown and Co were going along the M8. We are in the second teir and battling these prick to get promoted. This is a dog fight and we can't be weakening ourselves (losing your best player is weakening no matter what) and strengthening the oher

[Ozyhibby]

He's favourited that, not just some random tweet i've pulled up. :agree:

To be fair, it's very easy to accidentally favourite a tweet. Had it been a retweet, then that a different matter.

[Ozyhibby]

Well what did Liam Craig actually contribute last year? Stubbs didn't rate him, so there's nothing to replace. :cb

And yet we have still not managed it.

[tamig]

He's favourited that, not just some random tweet i've pulled up. :agree:

Ok apologies :-( I'm not a tweeter so didn't appreciate that was on his favourites tab. That won't be there for long I'd imagine.

[Green Cabbage 7]

I'm not a football scout, but I'll try answer.

The Yams won the league at a canter last year by bringing in unknown players from foreign leagues who were able to pull them out of a hole when they needed them. Players like Ozturk, Sow and Pallardo were all signed on for FREE and looked the part in a side that ultimately strolled to the championship title.

I believe that Neilson's philosophy played a big part in signing these players too, but look at Stubbs, a manager who's come from the Premiership, who has contacts at the Premiership, and a manager who will probably end up in the Premiership too. Hibs, with Stubbs in charge, are attractive for foreigners who'd be able to use us a stepping stone for England, if good enough.

Rangers can't attract these players because they have no scouting network, and when they do try and sign foreign players, they end up being ****. Just like Ortiz, Faure, Mohsni(played in Britain, but still relevant).

Let's not limit ourselves to Scott Allan, if he wants to go, and Rangers are willing to pay big bucks for him, then let him go, and then replace him with 3/4 players of a similar standard.


Sorry, but is this a wind up! Sell to competitors, who can't really afford a real fee, so let's get this straight, we will strengthen with the £150,000 offer, let's face it sevco can't afford much more, and get, who 3/4 players, sorry mate keep your best players till serious offers come in, and build your team around them is what I think, but you can go with yours if you want!

[Ozyhibby]

If he was to go, would I get a refund on my newly purchased season ticket?

[tamig]

No I am not but you did suggest that AS has no knowledge of the transfer market in that he had no-one in mind if SA left. I would bet you that he and his scouting team have a good number of targets who are out of our reach without the influx of cash that SA leaving would bring.

I didn't suggest that at all. I was doubting your theory that Stubbs would have a hidden gem waiting in the wings. The problem with having lists of targets and not being able to move on to those targets later in the window is that the majority are likely to have gone already.

[greenlex]

The poster I quoted said he'd never go back if we sold Scott Allan. I'm just trying to point out that's a pish point to make, not justify why it's a good reason to sell him.

I'm in his boat. If he is sold to Rangers this season for any amount I'll not be back. We don't need to so it would be madness to strengthen , let's face it, our only rivals for the only spot back to the Premiership. It would be a huge statement by the board IMO. I'd go as far as say even if Scott were to hand in a transfer request, throw a hissy or be unhappy I don't care. It would be far better to have him in the stand for the whole season than playing for them next season. The board simply MUST not sell him to them at any price. He would go with my blessing to anyone outside our league if he price was right but not to them this season.

[Pete]

Sevco know fine well we won't sell him to them. All they are doing is putting a marker down for the pre-contract fun and games in January.

That's when it will get complicated.

[green day]

http://gyazo.com/71fcc85acf71e479df8cbfd79614a6c9.png

This is from his twitter, I think he's away.

I don't think that demonstrates anything really.

Doubt he chose this one random tweet of the hundreds of zoomers tweeting him that hashtag.

More likely he pressed the favourite button in error.

I will be astounded if we accept anything for SA, from them or anyone (unless it was eyewatering money, which it won't be).

The repercussions days before the season starts don't bear thinking about, and I am fairly sure the fans reps are reporting back the mood from here/bounce etc.

[HoboHarry]

I didn't suggest that at all. I was doubting your theory that Stubbs would have a hidden gem waiting in the wings. The problem with having lists of targets and not being able to move on to those targets later in the window is that the majority are likely to have gone already.
Does the transfer window not close at the end of August? There is more than a month left to sign new players and there will be plenty still available....

[HoboHarry]

What I would like to know is who released the information that Rangers had placed a bid. If it was Rangers then they should be done for tapping given that we play them in a few days time. They won't be of course - there isn't a single set of balls amongst those in charge......

[Col2]

He won't go to The Rangers in this transfer window. There is no scenario that could play out that would make LD and AS let our best player go to our main rival for the title in one of Hibs most important seasons ever. The fallout from us the fans would be huge, a lot of the good work done would be lost and it would send a message to other players, the fans and the media that we think we are second best and are already defeated.

[muzzando]

The rangers bid 100k for Allan. Are they having a laugh?!

[andyf5]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reject-bid-from-rangers-for-scott-allan-1-3838384

[Waxy]

100,000? All they've done is annoyed us. They're making it even harder for themselves now.

[Libby Hibby]

If Allan wants to leave, then Hibs have a problem and should sell him to anyone but Rangers for a price that suits Hibs, if he doesn't want to leave, then Hibs should come out and say so in the strongest possible terms...if, more specifically, Allan wants to go to Rangers, then Hibs should do everything not to sell him to this seasons biggest rivals...anyone but Rangers is the message I am getting from fans and Hibs need to acknowledge and adhere to this

[blackpoolhibs]

Money to allow us to bring in more player's? Negative is it?


Aye because thats a route we've plundered before with great success? I'm not daft enough to think a bid upwards of £500k will not be very tempting whoever its from.

Yet you seem blind to the fact that the way this club has been run has scunnered many fans into non attendance, and soundbites like we'll support you evermore really mean diddly squat.

Selling Allan may happen, and it has a knock on affect. The fans lose an idol, the manager gets his first taste of how we operate, and he then has to start again unearthing another gem.

This scenario has NOT worked in the past, and has consequently left us after many years of losing quality players, playing our football in the 2nd tier of the backwater of Scottish Football.

We'll support you evermore at prices many folk are struggling to pay, to watch inferior players replace the quality ones we sometimes bring through or get through good management.

Crack on with that Stevie, it seems you are in a ever dwindling band who will be rattling around a stadium less than half full, ask yourself just why this is the case?

Its NOT down to how many supporters we've had through the doors in my opinion.

[greenlex]

Aye because thats a route we've plundered before with great success? I'm not daft enough to think a bid upwards of £500k will not be very tempting whoever its from.

Yet you seem blind to the fact that the way this club has been run has scunnered many fans into non attendance, and soundbites like we'll support you evermore really mean diddly squat.

Selling Allan may happen, and it has a knock on affect. The fans lose an idol, the manager gets his first taste of how we operate, and he then has to start again unearthing another gem.

This scenario has NOT worked in the past, and has consequently left us after many years of losing quality players, playing our football in the 2nd tier of the backwater of Scottish Football.

We'll support you evermore at prices many folk are struggling to pay, to watch inferior players replace the quality ones we sometimes bring through or get through good management.

Crack on with that Stevie, it seems you are in a ever dwindling band who will be rattling around a stadium less than half full, ask yourself just why this is the case?

Its NOT down to how many supporters we've had through the doors in my opinion.
I've no problem with selling Scott Allan if the price is right. This season the price will never be right to sell to Rangers. Any player will be sold if the price is right. That's the way it is.

[Onion]

The rangers bid 100k for Allan. Are they having a laugh?!

Huns know full well Hibs will reject that, and their follow up £145,000 or whatever else they dream up. It's just being done to appease their fans, annoy Hibs and unsettle SA. This disruption cost them nothing.

[scoopyboy]

The bid has been rejected. If we sell to Rangers at any cost I won't be back.

Amazing, Hibs correctly reject a bid and your response is if they sell you won't be back.

What have Hibs got to do to please you?

[Bishop Hibee]

Lose Allan to them and we will definitely stay down.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

We should put in a £30,000 bid for their best player

Just tough to know which one it is, if any

Let's see how the west coast media whores report that

[Aldo]

A test the water bid with £100,000 yet they got double for an unknown who had come through their youth team. (Telfer).

We need to stay strong (which I'm sure we will) and if they match out valuation of him then a decision has to be made! I also think it has to be made soon as allowing AS to bring in someone else.

This is however all ifs and buts!

[Broken Gnome]

There's flouncing off in a huff for understandable reasons when not getting your own way... Then there's this situation.

Rangers, Scott Allan, the media, other Scottish teams, the world, the universe, would all find it quite understandable why selling to them isn't exactly a desirable move. I don't see how anyone could realistically spit the dummy or pressure Hibs to do something that makes so little sense.

That said, Scott Allan plays Rangers twice before they lose the chance to sign him. That's not easy for him, or Hibs, and has a big effect on how the games will go.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Aye because thats a route we've plundered before with great success? I'm not daft enough to think a bid upwards of £500k will not be very tempting whoever its from.

Yet you seem blind to the fact that the way this club has been run has scunnered many fans into non attendance, and soundbites like we'll support you evermore really mean diddly squat.

Selling Allan may happen, and it has a knock on affect. The fans lose an idol, the manager gets his first taste of how we operate, and he then has to start again unearthing another gem.

This scenario has NOT worked in the past, and has consequently left us after many years of losing quality players, playing our football in the 2nd tier of the backwater of Scottish Football.

We'll support you evermore at prices many folk are struggling to pay, to watch inferior players replace the quality ones we sometimes bring through or get through good management.

Crack on with that Stevie, it seems you are in a ever dwindling band who will be rattling around a stadium less than half full, ask yourself just why this is the case?

Its NOT down to how many supporters we've had through the doors in my opinion.

Away Blackpool, I am not blind. Can't be bothered with the I won't be back brigade, you either support the Club or you don't. You chose not to so your opinion means heehaw to me.....

You continue to knock the Club, but don't go, I will never understand that

[Baldy Foghorn]

Amazing, Hibs correctly reject a bid and your response is if they sell you won't be back.

What have Hibs got to do to please you?

Some will never be happy J......Is SA the new Messi?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Has the £100,000 bid been confirmed as accurate? I can't believe even der hun would be that shameless.

[Lago]

All this nonsense almost makes me wish hibs had never signed him in the first place.

[BT58]

Supported Hibernian for nearly 50 years. Been a season ticket holder for many years unfortunately lapsed due to health/financial issues. Still go and see them whenever i can .
For decades HFC have sold their best assets to whoever offers the right figure.
It will happen in the future too, The board and LD have some hard thinking to do.
Sell SA to the huns and suffer a fans backlash and suffer potentially another year in the wilderness, or keep our best players and concentrate on winning the league ( the huns can have yon mickey mouse cup).
Seen many good/great players at ER who have been sold and the fans rightly going mental, but the club is still here.GGTTH

[Baldy Foghorn]

If he was to go, would I get a refund on my newly purchased season ticket?

Why? Does it state in T&C's that we won't sell anyone?

Some really need to get a grip....Wonder why some actually bother?

[Iceman1875]

I hope SA plays and plays a blinder on Saturday and reiterates he is going nowhere! [emoji106]🏻


At Easter Road we play...

[GordonHFC]

It would be interesting to see Hibs response to the derisory bid. If they just rejected it then they are openly inviting other bids which will only encourage Der Hun. If they responded by saying the bid is rejected and that any increased bids in the future will also be rejected then that let's them know exactly where we stand.

[Jim44]

Amazing, Hibs correctly reject a bid and your response is if they sell you won't be back.

What have Hibs got to do to please you?

They certainly won't please many if they adopt a passive role and allow Sevco to bounce back and forth with insulting offers. If this happens Sevco know they've got their man because we will capitulate at some point ( we keep being reminded, every player has a price). This is a war of attrition which, unless we grow some balls, we are likely to lose. Nothing other than a definitive statement that SA does not have a 'right price' at this moment will satisfy me and many others. Simple rejection of offers gives no defence against the demoralising and upsetting effect that this fiasco will create.

[lord bunberry]

Has the £100,000 bid been confirmed as accurate? I can't believe even der hun would be that shameless.
I can they're filth

[flash]

They certainly won't please many if they adopt a passive role and allow Sevco to bounce back and forth with insulting offers. Simple rejection of offers gives no defence against the demoralising and upsetting effect that this fiasco will create.

No offence but what a load of pish. He is our contracted player. It's up to the Huns whether they make bids for him.
Too many people are champing at the bit to get tore into their own club rather than the real cause of this situation.
All Hibs have done is have a player that other people covet.

[Jim44]

It would be interesting to see Hibs response to the derisory bid. If they just rejected it then they are openly inviting other bids which will only encourage Der Hun. If they responded by saying the bid is rejected and that any increased bids in the future will also be rejected then that let's them know exactly where we stand.

:agree: Your post appeared while I was writing mine. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who can't understand that ' No, and p!ss off' is a viable answer. Unqualified rejection equals acceptance in my book.

[Baldy Foghorn]

No offence but what a load of pish. He is our contracted player. It's up to the Huns whether they make bids for him.
Too many people are champing at the bit to get tore into their own club rather than the real cause of this situation.
All Hibs have done is have a player that other people covet.

:top marks

Hibs getting it in the neck because another team makes a bid for our player....What's next to berate them with, toilet rolls not thick enough?

[Steve20]

Scott Allan won't be joining Rangers. We MUST go up this season and selling our best player to our closest rivals this season is not the way to go about that.

[Bill Milne]

It would be interesting to see Hibs response to the derisory bid. If they just rejected it then they are openly inviting other bids which will only encourage Der Hun. If they responded by saying the bid is rejected and that any increased bids in the future will also be rejected then that let's them know exactly where we stand.

From what I saw quoted on Sky this morning, that is exactly how Stubbs has responded ie by making it clear that further bids are unwelcome.

[Libby Hibby]

Scott Allan won't be joining Rangers. We MUST go up this season and selling our best player to our closest rivals this season is not the way to go about that.

But if Scott shows a desire to leave now, we sell him to anyone but Rangers for a price that is acceptable to Hibs and move on...No player is bigger than a club

[Jim44]

No offence but what a load of pish. He is our contracted player. It's up to the Huns whether they make bids for him.
Too many people are champing at the bit to get tore into their own club rather than the real cause of this situation.
All Hibs have done is have a player that other people covet.


:top marks

Hibs getting it in the neck because another team makes a bid for our player....What's next to berate them with, toilet rolls not thick enough?

Who's getting 'tore into the club'? All I'm saying is 'grow a pair'. If we don't, he's away.

[TowerHibs]

Away Blackpool, I am not blind. Can't be bothered with the I won't be back brigade, you either support the Club or you don't. You chose not to so your opinion means heehaw to me.....

You continue to knock the Club, but don't go, I will never understand that
Your the club's wet dream though BF. You will be there no matter what, the CLUB could possible play in maroon and you would support them and be there every week. I would suggest your opinion means more heehaw to the club.

BH and my opinion may mean heehaw to you, but it is in the interests of the club. Look at almost every message LD has said about season tickets. It's get the lapsed guys in, talk to those that have left...We are different now.

As most have said, the issue is not selling him or that we might lose him. The issue is that some on here don't see 8t as mental we see him to our only main rivals in the league me MUST do well in

[lucky]

Hibs won't sell to them but £100k is designed to unsettle him. They want him to put a transfer request in. I said else where on this board, Hibs cant and must not accept a bid from Rangers if SA goes in the huff then it's the development squad for him. He needs to be playing to keep his reputation going. He's only played 1 decent season since he left United. If he now down tools it will reignite the stories of the past that he is not a fully committed player and will effect his chances of his career progressing next season.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Your the club's wet dream though BF. You will be there no matter what, the CLUB could possible play in maroon and you would support them and be there every week. I would suggest your opinion means more heehaw to the club.

BH and my opinion may mean heehaw to you, but it is in the interests of the club. Look at almost every message LD has said about season tickets. It's get the lapsed guys in, talk to those that have left...We are different now.

As most have said, the issue is not selling him or that we might lose him. The issue is that some on here don't see 8t as mental we see him to our only main rivals in the league me MUST do well in

How many times does it need to be said, we won't sell to them....I am a supporter, who doesn't walk away, if that is a wet dream to the Club then great....(having had many discussions with the Club, I would say my opinion means something, or are they just paying me lip service)

[SunshineOnLeith]

Unqualified rejection equals acceptance in my book.

You don't half haver some pish but this tops the lot. 'No' means 'Yes' in your book? I don't know what book you've got but I'm pretty sure it's not a dictionary.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Who's getting 'tore into the club'? All I'm saying is 'grow a pair'. If we don't, he's away.

Grow a pair indeed, both LD and AS have publicly said that SA won't be sold to the bigots. Do they need to grow another pair?

[Jim44]

You don't half haver some pish but this tops the lot. 'No' means 'Yes' in your book? I don't know what book you've got but I'm pretty sure it's not a dictionary.

We'll see soon enough.:greengrin: