Scott Allan - signs a 4 year deal with Celtic

[Lee Marvin]

Surely the statements telling us they aren't selling to their rival and will let his contract run down should be giving you assurances rather than posters on here? :dunno:

Does the statement actually say that though??

[jacomo]

You did to be fair!

I'm still sure he will be sold to them and the folk who were worried were right to be!

The more I think about it the more I think to myself don't get angry Hibs will always sell and nothing will change that. Dempster or Stubbs.

If LD doesn't realise how badly that will be received by the fans she's not the leader I thought she was. Moment of truth for Hibs now - stand up or roll over?

Capitulating to Sevco would be a disaster.

[GreenCastle]

This...the knock on effect will be all there to see, and if he signs for them and plays against us on Saturday that will be yet another slap in the face for the fans, there will be a riot if he does.

FFS the next time we sign a player let's make sure he's not "always" been a hun or a smelly.

Can't see that happening!

Though whether he plays on Saturday or not will be interesting !!!

[bill the hibby]

Now let's just chill out, sit back and see if everything Leanne has been telling us in the last year is true. Now is the time for the board to repay our support. We simply CANNOT sell to the huns.

[Willis1875]

Have we knocked back the reported 250k offer yet?

[Hermit Crab]

Hopefully they do that.

But what BH and myself are saying is if they did sell to them what would folk who have said "it'll never happen" say then? Would you feel lied too and feel betrayed?


You said he was signing a new deal along with Gray....

[HIBEEDUDE]

Have we knocked back the reported 250k offer yet?

Yeah just come up on sky sports

[blackpoolhibs]

Surely the statements telling us they aren't selling to their rival and will let his contract run down should be giving you assurances rather than posters on here? :dunno:

You'd think that would be enough, yet when asked by the reporter if Scott Allan had asked to leave, Stubbs went all shifty and never answered the question. He just stated he had a year left on his contract, and i believe the player holds all the cards here.

Hibs wont want in my opinion him to leave for nothing, or sign a pre contract in January. I hope i'm wrong but i think he will be off before the end of the transfer window.

[21.05.2016]

This will be the real test now of how ambitious we are as a club.

[Pete]

Hopefully they do that.

But what BH and myself are saying is if they did sell to them what would folk who have said "it'll never happen" say then? Would you feel lied too and feel betrayed?

To be honest I don't know who's saying what on this board it's that busy.

I disagree with that big long post though.

[hfc rd]

Have we knocked back the reported 250k offer yet?


Breaking news on SSN that we have rejected it.

[Hermit Crab]

Now let's just chill out, sit back and see if everything Leanne has been telling us in the last year is true. Now is the time for the board to repay our support. We simply CANNOT sell to the huns.


The statement tells us that any bids will not be considered, we will not sell him to the rangers.

[The_Horde]

Now let's just chill out, sit back and see if everything Leanne has been telling us in the last year is true. Now is the time for the board to repay our support. We simply CANNOT sell to the huns.

Unless it's a pretty sum capable of replacing scotty and more!

If he wants to go and rangers meet our estimation then bye scotty. If not, then I'd rather none of us had him. Let him st aw y in the reserves if he's not happy

[H18 SFR]

Yeah just come up on sky sports

Sky Sports now reporting the second bid was only £225K. Does anyone think they might not actually have the funds to genuinely buy him and that they're trying to appease their hun hoard.

On a footnote, he goes, I wouldn't be surprised to see AS wrap it as well. Stubbs seems an ambitious guy, can't see him hanging around.

[Thecat23]

You said he was signing a new deal along with Gray....

I said apparently he's signing yeah, One has and Scott stalled what's your point??

Do folk realise things can change in a matter of hours? Instead of saying you were right about Gray you decide to pick this part!!

[Thecat23]

To be honest I don't know who's saying what on this board it's that busy.

I disagree with that big long post though.

I know it's getting hard to keep up!

[Borderhibbie76]

Hopefully they do that.

But what BH and myself are saying is if they did sell to them what would folk who have said "it'll never happen" say then? Would you feel lied too and feel betrayed?

whats the point in discussing this just now....its almost like u want to be proved right mate and Hibs agree to sell him to Derhun?? I for one do not see Dempster selling to Rangers...if she does she knows the backlash will be horrific from fans

[jacomo]

You'd think that would be enough, yet when asked by the reporter if Scott Allan had asked to leave, Stubbs went all shifty and never answered the question. He just stated he had a year left on his contract, and i believe the player holds all the cards here.

Hibs wont want in my opinion him to leave for nothing, or sign a pre contract in January. I hope i'm wrong but i think he will be off before the end of the transfer window.

He joined for nowt, he can leave for nowt next summer.

END OF. :greengrin

[Thecat23]

whats the point in discussing this just now....its almost like u want to be proved right mate and Hibs agree to sell him to Derhun?? I for one do not see Dempster selling to Rangers...if she does she knows the backlash will be horrific from fans

Believe me I don't want him sold at any cost.

[bill the hibby]

Unless it's a pretty sum capable of replacing scotty and more!

If he wants to go and rangers meet our estimation then bye scotty. If not, then I'd rather none of us had him. Let him st aw y in the reserves if he's not happy

I have to disagree, if we are to sell to rangers at all then don't accept anything less than £1m (crazy amount I know). Only then would we have the funds available to get a player or a couple players that would make up for his loss

[AlbertK86]

Hibs need to stay strong on this. He stays and plays or he stays and spends his time in the stand with odd game in the development squad.

This 100% is what we should do

Whether the board have the appetite to do it is a different story

If they cave in and sell it will destroy all the good work the club have done in the last year to slowly bring fans back on side.

Selling to Sevco will set the relationship back another three or four years

[Borderhibbie76]

You said he was signing a new deal along with Gray....

Yes he did indeed...several times

[anon1875]

BREAKING SKY SPORTS NEWS. Hibs reject a second bid from Rangers for Scotty Allan


http://i.imgur.com/EYIOirY.jpg

[Thecat23]

Yes he did indeed...several times

So I was right with one of them??

[HH81]

What is the amount that we would stupid to turn down? 1 million?

[Thecat23]

BREAKING SKY SPORTS NEWS. Hibs reject a second bid from Rangers for Scotty Allan


http://i.imgur.com/EYIOirY.jpg

😂😂

[bill the hibby]

Hibs reject 2nd offer

[givescotlandfreedom]

whats the point in discussing this just now....its almost like u want to be proved right mate and Hibs agree to sell him to Derhun?? I for one do not see Dempster selling to Rangers...if she does she knows the backlash will be horrific from fans

Yes, I think Dempster is clued up enough to know that we need to dignity heels in on this one or there will be a catastrophic backlash. Why would anyone put their money into a DD when the club would roll over to its biggest rival for next to nothing?

[truehibernian]

This will be the real test now of how ambitious we are as a club.

Steven Fletcher IIRC wanted to go to Celtic and we rubuffed their efforts - he ended up going to Burnley for far more.

Thomson and Brown wanted to go - we squeezed a lot of cash for Thommo and Brown ended up going to Celtic - despite Rangers wanting the pair.

This will now be down to a waiting game, if need be waiting towards the end of the window, and seeing what other clubs come in. Now that other clubs see the player has his head turned I expect other sides to bid. That then tests the players ambition.

For me though I'd be more than happy to lose him and get McGeouch, McGregor and Henderson :aok: Fontaine was my PotY last season anyway :na na:

[TheGreenMan]

This is the true point where we find out what we are really all about under our new regime. Are we prepared to stand up for ourselves tell the huns and 'want away' player that we are in charge and back it up or do we roll over and admit defeat whilst preparing for a 3rd year in this part time league.

There is no chance in hell we should be giving the huns our best player, no ****ing chance. Any other team on the planet comes in with whatever we value him at then he's off - i understand that but you just cant sell to the huns, not this season, it has far too big an impact on us.

Tell him to back up his good year last year, get on with the job of winning the league, proving that he's worth the hype by actually driving us to the league title and if he's not prepared to be a man and have a bit of loyalty with Stubbs giving him his chance in football again then **** it, write off the few quid the huns offer and dont give him any football for a year.

[hibees 7062]

If he's asked to leave the **** him. We hold out for 1 million and nothing less or he's ****ed.

:top marks

[duffers]

What is the amount that we would stupid to turn down? 1 million?

Rangers don't have 1 million

[andy1875]

A real dilemma for Hibs now. One if its true that Allan has said he wants to go, means the board can't win.

A) If we sell him to the club he wants to go to, he goes to our big rivals for promotion back to the Premier League. There would be a massive "kick in the balls" to the fans and would ruin the feel good factor that has without question started to return in recent months.

B) We keep an unhappy player, our best player and build our team around him. One who would no doubt sign a pre contract with Sevco in January. What does that do for team/dressing room morale?

The Hibs board can't win here.

If he really wants to go, I'd tell Sevco he's yours for £1m. End of story. As soon as that bid comes, he can go.

[Thecat23]

Rangers don't have 1 million

If they did have a "war chest" they would have tabled a huge bid that would make Hibs think hard!!

[HH81]

Rangers don't have 1 million

Who mentioned Rangers?

[Mr White]

If LD doesn't realise how badly that will be received by the fans she's not the leader I thought she was. Moment of truth for Hibs now - stand up or roll over?

Capitulating to Sevco would be a disaster.

I suspect that with frank and amit sat round the table in the boardroom she knows fine well the implication of selling to them.

[truehibernian]

What is the amount that we would stupid to turn down? 1 million?

£1 - £1.5 million - cash up front - Hibs can use recent transfers of Armstrong, May, GMS, McLeod, Gauld as a guide if The Rangers are struggling to value a player :wink:

[Gordy M]

Who mentioned Rangers?
The difficulty is that according to itk its not that Allan is unhappy here....its that he wants to go to them. Even if say celtic came in with one million plus, hibs might accept but he might be determined to go to the rangers.

[Hibs90]

Well if it is true that he's said he wants to go he can go rot in the reserves for a year for all I care. That wee clip on STV where he tells the taxi driver 'we'll see what happens' isn't good viewing though.

[itslegaltender]

A real dilemma for Hibs now. One if its true that Allan has said he wants to go, means the board can't win.


B) We keep an unhappy player, our best player and build our team around him. One who would no doubt sign a pre contract with Sevco in January. What does that do for team/dressing room morale?

.

We were always just going to have him for one more season anyway, no difference there other than him unhappy he cant play with his new pals till June.

[Pretty Boy]

BBC saying nowt about Allan wanting to leave.

If he does want to leave I'd be pretty disappointed considering what Hibs have done for him.

[GreenCastle]

From the official statement earlier - would be madness if he went now - this sentence below while not completely black and white didn't need to be included. They could have just had the first paragraph and not include a Stubbs quote.

Head Coach Alan Stubbs said: “Scott is focused on helping Hibernian to gain promotion this season, and he will be a big player for us in meeting that challenge. He is happy to be at Hibernian and is only focused on performing well for the club and its supporters.”

So since that was published today - so things changed significantly since?

[.Sean.]

If he asks to leave and specifies he wants to play for them, I'd prefer to have him rot in the reserves for the year than play the season for Rangers.

Hibs pulled him off the scrapheap when nobody else was interested and have been by all accounts absolutely fantastic with him in regards to his condition. We don't owe him anything and if he wants to chuck our treatment of him back in our faces and sign for the team who'll be out biggest rivals this season then quite frankly he can away and fling ***** at himself. If he starts chucking his toys out the pram and wants to force through a move to that mob then **** him. He's a brilliant player but it's Scott Allan, no Maradona and no single player will ever be bigger than Hibs.

[dmc1875]

The difficulty is that according to itk its not that Allan is unhappy here....its that he wants to go to them. Even if say celtic came in with one million plus, hibs might accept but he might be determined to go to the rangers.

if that's the case he should shut up, head down and do his best for Hibs this season, at a club that he likes with players and staff he likes and a place he enjoys his football, then join rangers next summer.

[Golden Bear]

It will take Scott Allan to make an unequivocal statement to the effect that right now he's under contract and he intends to see the remaining part of his contact out as a Hibs player.

As things stand, I just can't see SA playing for Hibs on Saturday so from that perspective der hun has already won round 1.

[wills]

LD and AS hold all the cards, he is contracted to us, we don't need to sell, the money offered is laughable and I believe it's the Huns way of trying to unsettle the team prior to Saturday's game.

[Ozyhibby]

I struggle with how many posts there are on here about how he should be just stuck in the dev squad etc. For people who claim to be Hibs fans and have ambition for the club it doesn't exactly add up.

All the posts about Petrie and all the posts about the Board showing balls are pretty much missing the point too.

The only way Allan ends up at Ibrox is if he wants to go there and we agree to sell him. The important bit in that is if he wants to go there. Player power is what counts.

At this point, it seems to be the case that Rankgers have made bids. HFC have said at least one has been rejected.

There is speculation that Allan wants to go. That maybe fact or fiction but at the time of this post it's not been confirmed either way.

This throws up a few scenarios and there has to be a decision as to what's best for the club.

If Allan wants to go to RFC we either sell him to them or we don't. If we don't, we are left hoping someone else comes in for him and he's happy to go, otherwise we face the prospect of him either dropped from our squad or playing against them in critical matches, biding his time for his pre-contract. That's not worth thinking about. If we can't trust his motivation then we should be getting rid and replacing.

The posts about selling him to our competitor are simplistic. In these circumstances, if that's where Allan wants to go then we are screwed. We either drop him and go without (self-defeating as we are a top player down, struggling to backfill and being realistic, it likely puts other players off joining us), or we play him (and every time we play the huns, or if the season gets down to critical games, our team is undermined by speculation about his loyalty).

If a decent price can be had, on decent terms (and that's a big 'if') then it's probably the least-worst option. I find it ridiculous to imagine Stubbs didn't have half a mind to having to replace Allan. I would also bet it wasn't like-for-like, he would adapt the style to reflect that Allan is a Hollywood passer and might not seek to replace him with similar. He's already shown he's interested in trying different formations.

Two other things. I would bet a lot of people posting how they won't be back were also the ones who posted previously about how good it would be to keep him on for one more year and then he could move on to greater things. If we are to be promoted, would they be the same people moaning about lack of ambition because we weren't keeping this star player?

Second thing - utterly pragmatic but if he does go there, then we should know how to deal with him and close him down in games better than anyone else. He's a player who does look to play the flair ball going to a workmanlike RFC team. He might find even less passes coming off than he did for us!

In summary, we don't want him to go but if he really wants to go to the Huns then in this day and age it might be a case of cutting our losses.

What really shows a lack of ambition is saying we shouldn't sell for a good price, then reinvest in new players - especially when everyone seems to agree Allan would be off if we got promotion. That's timid and inward-looking. I would rather roll the dice and try and bring in players our manager thinks are worth it than cut our noses off to spite our face and stick our most skillful player in the youth squad until his contract runs out. That's embarrassing to even think about.

I'm sorry John but I disagree. Running up the white flag now would be yet another betrayal of the fans by this board and one too many for me.

[duffers]

Who mentioned Rangers?

Apologies. I think if he has asked to leave, then we would probably accept something in the region of 500,000 minimum as long as it was not to secco. I think (and really hope) we would not sell to them for any amount of money

[SquashedFrogg]

Yup. Get it done, get in a player almost as good as Allan, get on with our lives.

This for me. If he wants to leave then get as much cash for him as we can.

Anyone except the the Huns though!

We shouldn't surprised by this latest news. I've no doubt the club would've offered him an extension in the summer, if not before. He clearly hasn't signed one which suggests that he see's his future elsewhere.

Cash in, and move on.

I'm also convinced the club would've seen the potential for his departure at some point and would make provisions for a replacement.

I trust our club to do the right thing.

[AJWisme]

How much money would we make if we came first?
And on the same note, how much would we make if we came second with no promotion (again)?

I know things aren't as simple as that, but Allan makes a huge difference to our team.
For me, there is no way we can sell to our biggest rivals at this level.

[The_Horde]

1. We sell, for a sum worth it (taking into account he's the best player in the league and that we're selling to our nearest rivals. 1 million at least. We use all the money for transfers.

2. We don't sell because he's not said he wants to go.

3. He wants to go but they can't meet our valuation. He stays and we get nowt.

We cannot sell and strengthen our rivals unless it means we can better ourselves for it. Simple as that

[GreenPJ]

What is the amount that we would stupid to turn down? 1 million?

I think £1M we would (and should) sell to any other club for only a year left on his contract, if you are selling to a rival then you put a premium on top of that again to recognise that not only are you weaker they are benefitting so another 30% loading. If Rangers have £1m+ to spend then with the best will in the world they could get someone (maybe 2) from down south who is good enough in this league to give them a chance of winning the league.

I think if Rangers get so focussed on trying to get Allan they are going to miss the fact that they have a lot of work to do on the rest of their squad.

[Hibs90]

If he asks to leave and specifies he wants to play for them, I'd prefer to have him rot in the reserves for the year than play the season for Rangers.

Hibs pulled him off the scrapheap when nobody else was interested and have been by all accounts absolutely fantastic with him in regards to his condition. We don't owe him anything and if he wants to chuck our treatment of him back in our faces and sign for the team who'll be out biggest rivals this season then quite frankly he can away and fling ***** at himself. If he starts chucking his toys out the pram and wants to force through a move to that mob then **** him. He's a brilliant player but it's Scott Allan, no Maradona and no single player will ever be bigger than Hibs.

No often I agree with you Sean, but spot on here. :agree:

[bill the hibby]

Most important point that's been made so far, no single player is bigger than the club. Know what I'd he wants to go to them then ***** him. If he played for them on Saturday, I'd expect him to come out the tunnel in a massive ball of cotton wool because I wouldn't imagine any of our players would hold back

[Ronniekirk]

You'd think that would be enough, yet when asked by the reporter if Scott Allan had asked to leave, Stubbs went all shifty and never answered the question. He just stated he had a year left on his contract, and i believe the player holds all the cards here.

Hibs wont want in my opinion him to leave for nothing, or sign a pre contract in January. I hope i'm wrong but i think he will be off before the end of the transfer window.
I saw that interview on stv too but was only an extract as the one on BBC quoted Stubbs saying we aren't in the market to sell our best players and certainly not to our main rivals ,that's the Clubs stance
So it is now down to Stubbs to persuade Scott he is doing the right thing staying and but if he is determined to push for a move after being told he isn't going there ,then Stubbs is going to feel let down and may feel he can't justify continuing to back the player
There needs to be some hard talking and the player himself making a statement saying he has accepted that hibs won't sell him just now to rangers .
But think he will now sign a precontract with them in January and that becomes a different ball game

[andy1875]

We were always just going to have him for one more season anyway, no difference there other than him unhappy he cant play with his new pals till June.

Not necessarily. There was rumours not so long ago that he was close to signing a new extended contract. I believe those rumours, he has excelled at this club and has got his career back on track. It hasn't happened and here we are only a few months later.

I don't want anyone at our club that wishes he was elsewhere. Especially as I said, to a club who will be our rivals for promotion, a season which starts in less than 48 hours. If it is true that he's pushing the move, then that shows the a complete lack of respect for Hibs.

Rangers offer upwards of £700k, but preferably closer to £1m and he'll be gone. I'm certain of it.

We don't need anyone that doesn't want to be here and not pulling in the same direction, which is ultimately taking this club back to where it belongs.

Let's not forget this might all be nonsense, we might just announce a new 4 year deal with him tomorrow morning. :greengrin We can hope.

[Mibbes Aye]

I'm sorry John but I disagree. Running up the white flag now would be yet another betrayal of the fans by this board and one too many for me.

I don't want him to go either C, but I disagree it's running up a white flag should he go and I think some other posters on here have been hypocritical about that.

What are the previous betrayals - the sale of Brown, Thomson etc? Surely not - that was always going to happen. When you look at how we managed it overall the club did well, given what the players wanted and what we wanted.

Things changed twenty years ago and players assumed massive power.

I don't want Allan to go, don't want him to go to the Huns and won't accept him going for anything less than reasonable terms.

Nevertheless, I would take him going on acceptable terms to them ahead of sticking him in the dev squad for a year. That would be more damaging to our club.

That's not being emotional, that's being rational.

[Soldiersteve]

This is the true point where we find out what we are really all about under our new regime. Are we prepared to stand up for ourselves tell the huns and 'want away' player that we are in charge and back it up or do we roll over and admit defeat whilst preparing for a 3rd year in this part time league.

There is no chance in hell we should be giving the huns our best player, no ****ing chance. Any other team on the planet comes in with whatever we value him at then he's off - i understand that but you just cant sell to the huns, not this season, it has far too big an impact on us.

Tell him to back up his good year last year, get on with the job of winning the league, proving that he's worth the hype by actually driving us to the league title and if he's not prepared to be a man and have a bit of loyalty with Stubbs giving him his chance in football again then **** it, write off the few quid the huns offer and dont give him any football for a year.

100% agree
:flag:

[stoneyburn hibs]

Jon Snow hasn't reported anything on ch4 news yet.

[Lee Marvin]

If he goes to them, it's season over. That simple.

If he goes to them, we lose all the good work to galvanize this club bsvk together. That would be an unmittigated disaster.

Hibs can still salvage this. All they have to do is not sell to them. At any (realistic) price.

[cabbageandribs1875]

from monday 13th july

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/new-dad-scott-allan-wants-to-give-hibs-his-all-1-3828829 (http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/new-dad-scott-allan-wants-to-give-hibs-his-all-1-3828829)


Having been spotted on the plane on his way back to Scotland to attend the birth, social media went into overdrive, with rumours spreading that Allan was on his way out of Hibs.
“A few [passengers] were badgering me on the flight wanting to know,” the player said. “I told them the script, they probably didn’t believe me to be *honest, but now they will have seen the pictures.”


to be fair....yer a bare-faced liar :agree:

"Allan has again reiterated his determination to honour the second year of his contract at Easter Road"


aye ok :faf:


“I feel as if [manager] Alan Stubbs has already got some of the best out of me last season but I think he is the man who can improve me again. I’ve enjoyed my time here, it’s the happiest I have been.”



and yet you sound so sad now :rolleyes:

[GordonHFC]

If he asks to leave and specifies he wants to play for them, I'd prefer to have him rot in the reserves for the year than play the season for Rangers.

Hibs pulled him off the scrapheap when nobody else was interested and have been by all accounts absolutely fantastic with him in regards to his condition. We don't owe him anything and if he wants to chuck our treatment of him back in our faces and sign for the team who'll be out biggest rivals this season then quite frankly he can away and fling ***** at himself. If he starts chucking his toys out the pram and wants to force through a move to that mob then **** him. He's a brilliant player but it's Scott Allan, no Maradona and no single player will ever be bigger than Hibs.

Let's remember the guy shafted Dundee Utd in the past so what makes us think he wouldn't do it again.

[flash]

If he doesn't want to stay I would get rid provided the Huns stump up.
Would rather use the money to get people in who want to be here.
The let him rot in the reserves option, while tempting, only hurts us.

[lucky]

On BBC radio Scotland second bid of £225k has been knocked back. They never mentioned him asking for a transfer

[Platinum Scotty]

Let him enjoy the reserve football for a year - whatever we get for him won't cover the damage off and on the park his move could do

[bingo70]

If he doesn't want to stay I would get rid provided the Huns stump up.
Would rather use the money to get people in who want to be here.
The let him rot in the reserves option, while tempting, only hurts us.

Correct.

If Stubbs decides he'd rather cash in than have an unhappy player then that's good enough for me.

[Scotchmist]

Hibs need to stay strong on this. He stays and plays or he stays and spends his time in the stand with odd game in the development squad.

Couldn't agree more. Leeann has asked fans to show our loyalty to the club. Now it's time now for her and the board to show their loyalty to us. If Scott Allan goes, it would show a complete disregard for the fans.
Personally, I have faith in Leeann Dempster and Alan Stubbs and expect them to show some balls and tell the Huns exactly where to go.

[macca70]

Fed up of our club being bullied by these clowns at Rangers and Celtic.

With Allen, IMO we are favourites or very closely matched with Rangers.

Without, we're resigning ourselves to 3rd/4th place so this season and next in the Championship.

He is a Hibs player for 1 more year, whether he likes it or not. We do not have to give any permission for Rangers to speak to him but no doubt he's being tapped up as we speak by the lure of £8k a week!!

I'd rather see him serving pints in behind the goals for rest of his contract than sell him to that lot.

Leanne would undo all her good work in 1 move by selling and I'm sure there would be a few demanding there season ticket money back!!

[Dunbar Hibee]

Just been told he has handed his transfer request in.

[21.05.2016]

Just been told he has handed his transfer request in.

Where you hearing this?

[scotia44]

SA is coming the little c*** if true he is trying to push this
As others have said don't sell to them, let him rot with bits of game sub appearances etc and he may have change of heart once the season develops an realises sevco are eartha kitt or bust

[flash]

Couldn't agree more. Leeann has asked fans to show our loyalty to the club. Now it's time now for her and the board to show their loyalty to us. If Scott Allan goes, it would show a complete disregard for the fans.
Personally, I have faith in Leeann Dempster and Alan Stubbs and expect them to show some balls and tell the Huns exactly where to go.
Hibs aren't the bad guys here. Once a player decides they want to go there's only one outcome.
What we want now is an auction.

[Del Boy]

Just been told he has handed his transfer request in.

Heard same

[stanton_4]

Where you hearing this?

Probably something to do with this.
http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1325225-scott-allan-tells-hibernian-he-wants-to-leave-to-join-rangers/

[H18 SFR]

Just been told he has handed his transfer request in.

Well if he has he can politely be told to pack up his locker...at the end of May. He's staying put or there will be a mutany by the fans.

[Deansy]

If he's asked to leave the **** him. We hold out for 1 million and nothing less or he's ****ed.

Am 100% in agreement with you on this - plus the million's up front, add-ons can come later !

However, I'm really hoping (against hope ?) that he's not asked away - because if so, what an absolutely apalling way to treat AS whose THE reason for his revival !

[JOD]

No often I agree with you Sean, but spot on here. :agree:

Totally agree with that

[Stewboy]

Heard same

Record twitter feed?

[Hibernia&Alba]

I suppose we'll find out soon enough where all this is heading. Whatever happens, it needs to be done quickly; we can't have this turning into a soap opera and disrupting the new season. Stay or go, but get it resolved and move on.

[Mibbes Aye]

One other point for those who say stick him in the dev squad.

Does he play?

Yes or no, what kind of message does that send out to our upcoming talent and how we value them?

They are there to accommodate anyone we want to dump on them to send a supposed message to the Huns?

It's not exactly professional is it?

[Ronniekirk]

Just been told he has handed his transfer request in.

If true it will be rejected but what happens after that would be crucial

[Lee Marvin]

We are going to have to play bairns plus Fyvie in midfield on Saturday. What a disastrous pre season this has turned out to be!!!

[Dunbar Hibee]

Probably something to do with this.
http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1325225-scott-allan-tells-hibernian-he-wants-to-leave-to-join-rangers/

No nothing to do with that, wouldn't claim to be ITK or anything through STV, daily record or any other rag like that. I have no reason to doubt the source, really feels like a stab in the back from Allan. Be interesting to see what happens now!

[SquashedFrogg]

How much money would we make if we came first?
And on the same note, how much would we make if we came second with no promotion (again)?

I know things aren't as simple as that, but Allan makes a huge difference to our team.
For me, there is no way we can sell to our biggest rivals at this level.

I know what you're saying. But we need to start thinking if Allan would actually guarantee us promotion? I personally think the Huns have shot themselves in the foot here. If they'd had put a proper offer in they might have had a deal but I hope (if he leaves) that others will be alerted.

Defo an EPL player in Allan.

Balancing act for the club and I'm sure we will do the right thing.

Anyone but the huns

[.Sean.]

No nothing to do with that, would claim to be ITK or anything through STV, daily record or any other rag like that. I have no reason to doubt the source, really feels like a stab in the back from Allan. Be interesting to see what happens now!
Fs. What a little rat pal :rolleyes:

[bill the hibby]

We are going to have to play bairns plus Fyvie in midfield on Saturday. What a disastrous pre season this has turned out to be!!!

Must agree. Unreal that the new players we have signed are injured.

[Franck Stanton]

Right, as I see it ....................Most [if not all] of this current speculation comes from the STV camera seeing SA being dropped off at training today and the taxi driver asking if he will be staying at Hibs [did he mean this season Or signing an extension to his contract ? only the taxi driver knows }, and SA replying " we'll just have to wait and see what happens". Cue mass hysteria from STV sport "Bigging up" a wee snippet. They COULD just have the wrong end of the stick here and creating something out of nothing.
Now, having said that, IF SA has ASKED to be allowed to go to the hun, we as a Club should tell him that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will he be going there whilst under contract to us, and that if his attitude didn't change he would spend the rest of the season as a spectator. Now I know this would harm our promotion chances, but he is just one player, [not even our best player imo -Fyvie is more important to the team, not as gifted granted but more important], but to not have him not play for us and play for our biggest rivals for promotion this season, well that's like two kicks in the nuts. IMO SA could be replaced with McGeogh and we would be almost as strong a side anyway.

[Stokesy's on fire]

best thing to happen if he hands in transfer request is to put him on gardening leave until his contract ends. We can't be seen to let our club sell to the Huns it's just wrong.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Fs. What a little rat pal :rolleyes:

Certainly mate, really sickening all this.

[WestStandMoaner]

I struggle with how many posts there are on here about how he should be just stuck in the dev squad etc. For people who claim to be Hibs fans and have ambition for the club it doesn't exactly add up.

All the posts about Petrie and all the posts about the Board showing balls are pretty much missing the point too.

The only way Allan ends up at Ibrox is if he wants to go there and we agree to sell him. The important bit in that is if he wants to go there. Player power is what counts.

At this point, it seems to be the case that Rankgers have made bids. HFC have said at least one has been rejected.

There is speculation that Allan wants to go. That maybe fact or fiction but at the time of this post it's not been confirmed either way.

This throws up a few scenarios and there has to be a decision as to what's best for the club.

If Allan wants to go to RFC we either sell him to them or we don't. If we don't, we are left hoping someone else comes in for him and he's happy to go, otherwise we face the prospect of him either dropped from our squad or playing against them in critical matches, biding his time for his pre-contract. That's not worth thinking about. If we can't trust his motivation then we should be getting rid and replacing.

The posts about selling him to our competitor are simplistic. In these circumstances, if that's where Allan wants to go then we are screwed. We either drop him and go without (self-defeating as we are a top player down, struggling to backfill and being realistic, it likely puts other players off joining us), or we play him (and every time we play the huns, or if the season gets down to critical games, our team is undermined by speculation about his loyalty).

If a decent price can be had, on decent terms (and that's a big 'if') then it's probably the least-worst option. I find it ridiculous to imagine Stubbs didn't have half a mind to having to replace Allan. I would also bet it wasn't like-for-like, he would adapt the style to reflect that Allan is a Hollywood passer and might not seek to replace him with similar. He's already shown he's interested in trying different formations.

Two other things. I would bet a lot of people posting how they won't be back were also the ones who posted previously about how good it would be to keep him on for one more year and then he could move on to greater things. If we are to be promoted, would they be the same people moaning about lack of ambition because we weren't keeping this star player?

Second thing - utterly pragmatic but if he does go there, then we should know how to deal with him and close him down in games better than anyone else. He's a player who does look to play the flair ball going to a workmanlike RFC team. He might find even less passes coming off than he did for us!

In summary, we don't want him to go but if he really wants to go to the Huns then in this day and age it might be a case of cutting our losses.

What really shows a lack of ambition is saying we shouldn't sell for a good price, then reinvest in new players - especially when everyone seems to agree Allan would be off if we got promotion. That's timid and inward-looking. I would rather roll the dice and try and bring in players our manager thinks are worth it than cut our noses off to spite our face and stick our most skillful player in the youth squad until his contract runs out. That's embarrassing to even think about.

To be honest I think you are missing the point, even if Alan wants to go there we do not have to sell, it's called having a backbone, the club needs to stand firm on this, Alan was our best player last season and you do not under any circumstances let your best player go to your main rival in your division. You also mention about reinvesting any money we get for him back into the team, we do not have a good record on that score and I think the money we would need to replace Alan would be a lot more than sevco is offering

[hfc rd]

Is it only Sevco that he wants to join? Or is their other clubs that have made enquiries behind closed doors to Hibs? Maybe a club down south or a club in the Scottish Premiership?

[Ronniekirk]

Hibs aren't the bad guys here. Once a player decides they want to go there's only one outcome.
What we want now is an auction.
He has to be willing to go to another club ,if his alleged Transfer Request is I want to leave hibs and only play for rangers ,he is putting a gun to the boards head as he wont go elsewhere simple as .

[cabbageandribs1875]

We are going to have to play bairns plus Fyvie in midfield on Saturday. What a disastrous pre season this has turned out to be!!!


a couple of cool-headed posters on here told us not to worry about our 1256123561243 inured players

[21.05.2016]

IMO the huns have played a blinder here. They have come in and offered a pathetic sum (which they must have known hibs would throw out the window) but what they've done is make their interest well known and they've done enough to make Allan change his mind and want to leave for them.

[mcfly]

the cost of selling Scott Allan to the Rangers is worth a lot more than £225k.

The backlash against the club/board would be huge.

I would far rather hibs said no and he doesn't play.

[Lee Marvin]

a couple of cool-headed posters on here told us not to worry about our 1256123561243 inured players

Indeed. Where are they now?!

[Pete]

One other point for those who say stick him in the dev squad.

Does he play?

Yes or no, what kind of message does that send out to our upcoming talent and how we value them?

They are there to accommodate anyone we want to dump on them to send a supposed message to the Huns?

It's not exactly professional is it?

I'm sure it's not beyond our management teams abilities to explain to them why he's there without harming their development.

With any luck this situation might prick the ears up of clubs who are serious.

[Ozyhibby]

I don't want him to go either C, but I disagree it's running up a white flag should he go and I think some other posters on here have been hypocritical about that.

What are the previous betrayals - the sale of Brown, Thomson etc? Surely not - that was always going to happen. When you look at how we managed it overall the club did well, given what the players wanted and what we wanted.

Things changed twenty years ago and players assumed massive power.

I don't want Allan to go, don't want him to go to the Huns and won't accept him going for anything less than reasonable terms.

Nevertheless, I would take him going on acceptable terms to them ahead of sticking him in the dev squad for a year. That would be more damaging to our club.

That's not being emotional, that's being rational.

I don't think we did so well when we sold Brown and Thomson although I respect that it was time for them to go. We got a lot of money but the club has got steadily worse every year since. We are now 5 years in a row below Ross County (Dingwall pop 8000) in the league. 5 years.
Do you trust the board with the money again? I don't.

[Ringothedog]

I do not want a player who is not interested in playing for my club and wants to leave.Get the best price we can and reinvest the lot in our playing squad. I would sell when they reach £500k minimum. All the money up front and no effing instalments. We have to resolve this now or it will impact on our whole season.

[macca70]

LD furious at Rangers tapping Allan up and the way they are conducting themselves.

LD made it clear after 1st bid that future bids were unwelcome but they continue to unsettle us and now got fans turning against Allan aswell as Leanne.

Typical Rangers class, have to say that I absolutely despise that club more than I hate anything on this planet.

Absolute horrible, horrible, club!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Indeed. Where are they now?!


probably away to the shops for these


http://cdn.multibrand.pgsitecore.com/en-GB/-/media/Pampers/Pampers-Master/Images/Layout/Logos/logo-pampers.png?v=1-201412082328


:greengrin

[Broken Gnome]

If Allan does want to leave and is prepared to force it, he shouldn't have said a word. I can't believe this comes as a surprise to him, Hibs or anyone, so if the most predictable of bids was always going to turn his head then his promises and commitment seem laughable now.

Rangers haven't played a blinder: if rumours are true they've done what was blindingly obvious and probably knew fine well that it was enough to tempt him.

[steakbake]

Grown men...

If he goes, he goes. Very poor timing but throwing him to the reserves like they don't matter isn't a solution. Having him hang around if he doesn't want to be here isn't either.

[Beefster]

Folk are barmy if they believed that Allan was ever going to sign an extension.

Folk are barmy if they don't believe that everything was done and dusted between Allan and Rangers before the first bid.

[bingo70]

the cost of selling Scott Allan to the Rangers is worth a lot more than £225k.

The backlash against the club/board would be huge.

I would far rather hibs said no and he doesn't play.

If he goes it won't be a financial decision so the calculations you're talking about are irrelevant.

The decision will be based on the potential fall out from keeping a player who's heart isn't in it and is then likely to sign a pre contract with our biggest rivals.

Once players have their head turned they rarely perform as well so it's a difficult decision that Stubbs needs to make.

[GreenCastle]

So many rumours....

Statement number 2 tomorrow from the club ?

Saturday will reveal a lot to me if he plays or not (suspicious injury?!).

[BoltonHibernian]

From the STV interview with Stubbsy, I think he has asked to go but has been told that he won't be sold to The Rangers. Don't know why that's just the impression I got

[bingo70]

If he plays for us on Saturday are we booing him?

[portyhibernian]

If he's handed in a transfer request Hibs should alert every club in England punt him there at the first decent offer.

[Lee Marvin]

Grown men...

If he goes, he goes. Very poor timing but throwing him to the reserves like they don't matter isn't a solution. Having him hang around if he doesn't want to be here isn't either.

So what is the solution?

[hfc rd]

So many rumours....

Statement number 2 tomorrow from the club ?

Saturday will reveal a lot to me if he plays or not (suspicious injury?!).



Be interesting to see what reaction he receives from the stands.

[Tricla]

From the STV interview with Stubbsy, I think he has asked to go but has been told that he won't be sold to The Rangers. Don't know why that's just the impression I got

I felt that too. Just when AS said 'Scott knows the situation'.

[Pete]

Grown men...

If he goes, he goes. Very poor timing but throwing him to the reserves like they don't matter isn't a solution. Having him hang around if he doesn't want to be here isn't either.

Selling him to rangers isn't a solution either. Lots of "grown men" won't be back and that's the reality.

I wish people would stop insinuating that keeping him and making him honour his contract is somehow unreasonable.

[Malthibby]

One other point for those who say stick him in the dev squad.

Does he play?

Yes or no, what kind of message does that send out to our upcoming talent and how we value them?

They are there to accommodate anyone we want to dump on them to send a supposed message to the Huns?

It's not exactly professional is it?

Very true, so as another poster has said, get him selling pints in Behind the Goals 'till next May (as an extra worker,
not to replace anyone).
With him, we are a better team (I think), without him we still have a fighting chance, letting him go to them
ensures they win the Championship & that'll cost a lot more than his wages plus any transfer fee.
Hibs have to take a stand; letting him go to Ibrox would be suicide.
Shouldn't be so surprised and disappointed if this is true, but I will be.
Hope Leanne takes sense, logic & inevitability and drop kicks them into the Forth.
GG

[Libby Hibby]

Like I said this morning, if SA is indeed showing a desire to leave, then let him, get the best possible deal and buy 3 players with the money and move on, it's football, it's what happens....sorry, should of said, let him leave to anyone but The Rangers 😉

[NAE NOOKIE]

This is the watershed moment ..... The moment when we find out if we are a 'new Hibs'

The biggest failing of the Petrie era and what eventually brought us to where we are now was the credo in the Easter Road boardroom that the balance sheet took priority over what happened on the pitch. Petrie couldn't see past that, for him squeezing big bucks out of the OF and others was success. Not should we sell, but for how much should we sell ...... refusal to acknowledge that success on the pitch could also be a road to riches took us down the road to hell instead.

What we face now is a decision, not just between money and possible on field success, but whether or not the clubs fledgling new relationship with us is worth paying for. If Hibs are to be believed we cant possibly have factored into any budget a transfer fee for any player, that being the case we lose nothing by refusing to sell to the Huns ...... Yes Scott Allan might spit the dummy, but if that means keeping good relations between club and fans and leaving everybody in no doubt that we mean business this season, then that will be worth every penny we don't get from the Huns ..... and more. If that means Scotty having to be left out of the team because his attitude isn't right that will be a pity .....but the bigger picture is more important than him, or any other player.

I hope and pray that Hibs do the right thing here ..... I for one will love them for it if they do :aok:

[steakbake]

So what is the solution?

Sell him for as much as we can get in a single instalment.

[Broken Gnome]

He's signing an extension with Hibs when we release our special limited edition Petrofac Cup third strip on Saturday, yeah?

[Thecat23]

Be interesting to see what reaction he receives from the stands.

I'd put my mortgage on the line that Allan won't play on sat not now!

[QMU-1875]

If he plays for us on Saturday are we booing him?

Are you for real? Where is it confirmed he said he wants to leave? Honestly our fans are such idiots sometimes

[Franck Stanton]

So many rumours....

Statement number 2 tomorrow from the club ?

Saturday will reveal a lot to me if he plays or not (suspicious injury?!).

Cant see him being picked for Sat - his head will be all over the place, in a way the blue-nose keek have won Round 1 already.

[Mibbes Aye]

To be honest I think you are missing the point, even if Alan wants to go there we do not have to sell, it's called having a backbone, the club needs to stand firm on this, Alan was our best player last season and you do not under any circumstances let your best player go to your main rival in your division. You also mention about reinvesting any money we get for him back into the team, we do not have a good record on that score and I think the money we would need to replace Alan would be a lot more than sevco is offering

Having backbone means making the unpopular decisions if they are the right ones IMO.

It diminishes your argument to make absolute claims - not everyone thinks he was our best or most important player last season, though I do think he is very good and important.

It comes back to choices. Having backbone doesn't mean puffing out the chest and pouting the lip and sticking someone in the reserves to the detriment of our youth players. It means accepting that when you have a talented player with a year to go on his contract and he's potentially casting his eyes elsewhere then for the betterment of the club, you had better be thinking about alternatives to keeping him because keeping him might only happen in a fashion that harms the club.

I've heard enough people on here state this is our most important season in living memory. Probably they are correct. Are we going to go into that season with the player most think is our best banished to the reserves? That's taking a bad situation and making it worse.

I've already made the point twice that any fee has to justify his move, in the context of him going to a competitor. I've also made the point that everyone knows Allan had a good season last year. No one is surprised that there might be interest in him.

Do we really think so little of Stubbs that we assume he doesn't know that either? That he won't be thinking about different players or different formations?

[Lee Marvin]

This is the watershed moment ..... The moment when we find out if we are a 'new Hibs'

The biggest failing of the Petrie era and what eventually brought us to where we are now was the credo in the Easter Road boardroom that the balance sheet took priority over what happened on the pitch. Petrie couldn't see past that, for him squeezing big bucks out of the OF and others was success. Not should we sell, but for how much should we sell ...... refusal to acknowledge that success on the pitch could also be a road to riches took us down the road to hell instead.

What we face now is a decision, not just between money and possible on field success, but whether or not the clubs fledgling new relationship with us is worth paying for. If Hibs are to be believed we cant possibly have factored into any budget a transfer fee for any player, that being the case we lose nothing by refusing to sell to the Huns ...... Yes Scott Allan might spit the dummy, but if that means keeping good relations between club and fans and leaving everybody in no doubt that we mean business this season, then that will be worth every penny we don't get from the Huns ..... and more. If that means Scotty having to be left out of the team because his attitude isn't right that will be a pity .....but the bigger picture is more important than him, or any other player.

I hope and pray that Hibs do the right thing here ..... I for one will love them for it if they do :aok:

Perfectly put. Please email this to the club

[easty]

I want to keep him, I don't want him going to Rangers, but if he does I'l get over it.

If he's handed in a transfer request, then it's up to the club to get the best deal we can for him, from whatever team. I'd not stick him in the reserves for a season, that'd be pointless.

People talk about loyalty like it actually matters. Aye, we signed him after a bad spell down south, and he's done really well. If he'd turned out to be dug *****, we'd want rid of him, regardless of any cries of loyalty from his end.

[hibees 7062]

I'd put my mortgage on the line that Allan won't play on sat not now!

Me to , and he won't play for us again

[Aldo]

I'm actually feel that LD and co are in a no win situation regarding this.

The ****my ****witts from the west know exactly what they are doing and Allan's neebor Halliday will be tapping him up as we speak!

They are unsettling him with their derisory offers.
If they match out valuation for him I'm of the opinion that we should accept it and move on. Giving Stubbs the money to replace him.

I don't want someone whose not 100% behind the club to be there and pick up wages for being a ****ing Judas!

To that I feel sorry for LD, AS and co cos regardless of what they do they are going to get a kick in.... Especially LD. Do we really want the team to suffer because of one player. Yeah on his game he's a superb player but one player doesn't make a team!

Unless Scott Allan goes in front of the cameras in the next 24 hours and specifically states he wants to stay at Hibs, not this I'm happy, come out and say I don't want to play for Der Hun, and isn't interested in moving to this season then he can go!

This will not go away until he says that and is fully focused on staying at Hibs!

For those who have said they won't be back etc just think of how LD feels. She'll never appease everyone. Paying the wages of someone who may have to sit in the stands at the expense of the team or a player who wants to be elsewhere.

No win for them.

If he wants to go he can GTF but he needs to come out and say NO! Which I don't think he will.

After much deliberation I'm going to back the club whichever the decision they make!

[Lee Marvin]

Sell him for as much as we can get in a single instalment.

Disagree massively. See nae nookie post above. This is a much bigger issue than losing our best player

[andy1875]

He's signing an extension with Hibs when we release our special limited edition Petrofac Cup third strip on Saturday, yeah?

As I said in an earlier post. I'd be happy with that :greengrin

Here's my take on things. We sell Allan for £700k. We replace him with McGeouch for £200k and we bank the other £500k.

Simples :devil:

[bingo70]

Are you for real? Where is it confirmed he said he wants to leave? Honestly our fans are such idiots sometimes

No, just some light hearted nonsense in relation to the time we booed Liam Miller based on rumours on here.

Apologies, I'll get back to being furious about it.

[Aldo]

I'd put my mortgage on the line that Allan won't play on sat not now!

Agreed

[Lago]

Selling him to rangers isn't a solution either. Lots of "grown men" won't be back and that's the reality.

I wish people would stop insinuating that keeping him and making him honour his contract is somehow unreasonable.
It may not be unreasonable, but like Stirling at Liverpool, he wanted to go they said no, when the price was right he went.

[bingo70]

Sell him for as much as we can get in a single instalment.

Of course that's the only solution.

All ideas are nice in theory but they don't happen in the real world, for good reason.

[Thecat23]

I'm actually feel that LD and co are in a no win situation regarding this.

The ****my ****witts from the west know exactly what they are doing and Allan's neebor Halliday will be tapping him up as we speak!

They are unsettling him with their derisory offers.
If they match out valuation for him I'm of the opinion that we should accept it and move on. Giving Stubbs the money to replace him.

I don't want someone whose not 100% behind the club to be there and pick up wages for being a ****ing Judas!

To that I feel sorry for LD, AS and co cos regardless of what they do they are going to get a kick in.... Especially LD. Do we really want the team to suffer because of one player. Yeah on his game he's a superb player but one player doesn't make a team!

Unless Scott Allan goes in front of the cameras in the next 24 hours and specifically states he wants to stay at Hibs, not this I'm happy, come out and say I don't want to play for Der Hun, and isn't interested in moving to this season then he can go!

This will not go away until he says that and is fully focused on staying at Hibs!

For those who have said they won't be back etc just think of how LD feels. She'll never appease everyone. Paying the wages of someone who may have to sit in the stands at the expense of the team or a player who wants to be elsewhere.

No win for them.

If he wants to go he can GTF but he needs to come out and say NO! Which I don't think he will.

After much deliberation I'm going to back the club whichever the decision they make!

I see what you mean, but actually for me they can win. They simply do not sell to The Rangers and offer him to other clubs! If he refuses sit him in the stands and prove to fans we won't be pushed about by any club or player.

We sell and **** all has changed from brown and Thompson era! Stand strong Hibs and for once just refuse the money they throw at us. We are competing for a league title and they would be throwing thousands away if they sell never mind make thousands IMO.

[GreenCastle]

Cant see him being picked for Sat - his head will be all over the place, in a way the blue-nose keek have won Round 1 already.

If he doesn't play Saturday I think he will leave.

If he plays Saturday - of course we shouldn't boo him! Though how he plays in the game could be interesting!

I imagine Hibs and the zombies will do pre-match press conference tomorrow - could find out more then.

Every player has a price in world football - the issue I have here is the timing and selling to main rivals for the league in a vital season for us!

If we were both in SPFL then it wouldn't be as bad - though not easy to take - but he's our star player helping us to get out this crappy league - 3 years in this league would be a disaster.

[Malthibby]

This is the watershed moment ..... The moment when we find out if we are a 'new Hibs'

The biggest failing of the Petrie era and what eventually brought us to where we are now was the credo in the Easter Road boardroom that the balance sheet took priority over what happened on the pitch. Petrie couldn't see past that, for him squeezing big bucks out of the OF and others was success. Not should we sell, but for how much should we sell ...... refusal to acknowledge that success on the pitch could also be a road to riches took us down the road to hell instead.

What we face now is a decision, not just between money and possible on field success, but whether or not the clubs fledgling new relationship with us is worth paying for. If Hibs are to be believed we cant possibly have factored into any budget a transfer fee for any player, that being the case we lose nothing by refusing to sell to the Huns ...... Yes Scott Allan might spit the dummy, but if that means keeping good relations between club and fans and leaving everybody in no doubt that we mean business this season, then that will be worth every penny we don't get from the Huns ..... and more. If that means Scotty having to be left out of the team because his attitude isn't right that will be a pity .....but the bigger picture is more important than him, or any other player.

I hope and pray that Hibs do the right thing here ..... I for one will love them for it if they do :aok:

:top marksNothing more to add. Unless I think of something later.

[Lee Marvin]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k

[Leith Green]

Cant see him being picked for Sat - his head will be all over the place, in a way the blue-nose keek have won Round 1 already.


Rangers have played Hibs big time here, the timing of this bid and their signing of holt prior to this is structured in my opinion.. We basically go into a shambles trying to identify and sign an adequate replacement without it damaging the start of our season.

[jabis]

Are you for real? Where is it confirmed he said he wants to leave? Honestly our fans are such idiots sometimes

That gets a thumbs up from me.

[bingo70]

I see what you mean, but actually for me they can win. They simply do not sell to The Rangers and offer him to other clubs! If he refuses sit him in the stands and prove to fans we won't be pushed about by any club or player.

We sell and **** all has changed from brown and Thompson era! Stand strong Hibs and for once just refuse the money they throw at us. We are competing for a league title and they would be throwing thousands away if they sell never mind make thousands IMO.

What if Stubbs would rather have the money to improve the squad with players that want to be here?

He won't want a big chunk of his budget sitting in the stand as a matter of principle.

[SkintHibby]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k

Id give him to Celtic for nowt!

[hfc rd]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k


Easily Celtic.

[Thecat23]

What if Stubbs would rather have the money to improve the squad with players that want to be here?

He won't want a big chunk of his budget sitting in the stand as a matter of principle.

Then sell him to another team Bingo. Why does it have to be The Rangers? Other teams are interested and I'd rather sell Allan to Utd for £100k than to a team who we are fighting to get out this league for £250k.

[KWJ]

Can't sell him to rangers unless their bid is daft.

If that's where he wants to go he's surely better off joining them next summer. Don't think the club will sell to rangers but he could end up going elsewhere for more years so he misses out on those fuds.

Hibs don't sell to rangers, that's how they win. His performance in a Hibs Jersey would be under such scrutiny now by press and fans that it's hard to see him being a success for Hibs and the other players playing to their level.

Can't sell him to rangers though, Hibs need to stand tall on that one, and I think they will.

[easty]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k

I'd take the £750k

[silverhibee]

If that's true we need to take the hit and not sell him.

We can't sell to them.

:agree:

And the hit won't be as big as some folk think as he won't be on any more than £1/5k p/w, he trains with the kids, eats with them and has nothing to do with 1st team at EM, and is not allowed to attend ER on match day mixing with the 1st team squad, he misses out on appearance money, bonuses and most of all football, Hibs hold the aces here, if he wants to go to any other club other than them then let him go and we get money for him and he won't be playing for our rivals in this league this season.

[Lee Marvin]

Id give him to Celtic for nowt!

Me too

[El Gubbz]

Can we all just chill for a second. Taxi drivers are famous for talking garbage and this is the source yous are all reacting to? Allan will stay, I can still see him signing an extension

[Thecat23]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k

Celtic every time as they aren't in our league and not in direct competition with us!!!

[Thecat23]

:agree:

And the hit won't be as big as some folk think as he won't be on any more than £1/5k p/w, he trains with the kids, eats with them and has nothing to do with 1st team at EM, and is not allowed to attend ER on match day mixing with the 1st team squad, he misses out on appearance money, bonuses and most of all football, Hibs hold the aces here, if he wants to go to any other club other than them then let him go and we get money for him and he won't be playing for our rivals in this league this season.

This 👆🏼

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Congratulations. Mission accomplished.
For all we go on about the media we don't half undo ourselves sometimes.
If we want a team to genuinely have bottle we need to effing man up ourselves.

[Mibbes Aye]

Very true, so as another poster has said, get him selling pints in Behind the Goals 'till next May (as an extra worker,
not to replace anyone).
With him, we are a better team (I think), without him we still have a fighting chance, letting him go to them
ensures they win the Championship & that'll cost a lot more than his wages plus any transfer fee.
Hibs have to take a stand; letting him go to Ibrox would be suicide.
Shouldn't be so surprised and disappointed if this is true, but I will be.
Hope Leanne takes sense, logic & inevitability and drop kicks them into the Forth.
GG

I recognise I'll be in a minority here G but that's the bit that I disagree with, while many probably will.

He's a very talented boy but his game is relatively playable against - he had the benefit of being a bit of an unknown quantity last season. If anyone should know his game, it's our coaching team.

What he does well, he does well, but he's not in a position to reinvent himself e.g. to suddenly find blistering pace to complement his other abilities.

It sounds like I'm criticising him and I don't want that because he has some sublime abilities to deliver killer passes. I don't think the Huns will make more of it than we did last year however.

Going back to being in the minority, if I had a choice between keeping McGeouch or Allan, I would have gone for Dylan every time, especially if there was the prospect of money to strengthen as a consequence.

If losing Allan is one step back to move two steps forward then I'm fine with it.

The reality is if he wants away, we should say goodbye now, so any gain is a positive.

[KWJ]

Then sell him to another team Bingo. Why does it have to be The Rangers? Other teams are interested and I'd rather sell Allan to Utd for £100k than to a team who we are fighting to get out this league for £250k.

Agree with you but don't see Allan signing a contract with Utd, assuming you mean Dundee!

Hopefully there are other teams who can give him the wage he wants. We could loan him out for the year.

[hibees 7062]

Then sell him to another team Bingo. Why does it have to be The Rangers? Other teams are interested and I'd rather sell Allan to Utd for £100k than to a team who we are fighting to get out this league for £250k.

Other teams have the cash aswell . Another reason why we should tell them to FO .

[WestStandMoaner]

This is the watershed moment ..... The moment when we find out if we are a 'new Hibs'

The biggest failing of the Petrie era and what eventually brought us to where we are now was the credo in the Easter Road boardroom that the balance sheet took priority over what happened on the pitch. Petrie couldn't see past that, for him squeezing big bucks out of the OF and others was success. Not should we sell, but for how much should we sell ...... refusal to acknowledge that success on the pitch could also be a road to riches took us down the road to hell instead.

What we face now is a decision, not just between money and possible on field success, but whether or not the clubs fledgling new relationship with us is worth paying for. If Hibs are to be believed we cant possibly have factored into any budget a transfer fee for any player, that being the case we lose nothing by refusing to sell to the Huns ...... Yes Scott Allan might spit the dummy, but if that means keeping good relations between club and fans and leaving everybody in no doubt that we mean business this season, then that will be worth every penny we don't get from the Huns ..... and more. If that means Scotty having to be left out of the team because his attitude isn't right that will be a pity .....but the bigger picture is more important than him, or any other player.

I hope and pray that Hibs do the right thing here ..... I for one will love them for it if they do :aok:

Great post:top marks

[silverhibee]

As wee Gordon said, don't ever expect honour or integrity in football - Wayne Rooney is/was proof of the bit in bold - his agent(s) pushed and pushed Man Utd, a team who had guranteed CL football, had appeared in CL finals, won leagues (all with Rooney) - Wayne Rooney does not strike me as having the savvy or the know-how to do what he did during their 'negotiations' - it was a ploy to get top dollar wages simple as that and he openly disrespected his employers and his manager. A manager and club who put him on the 'super stardom' map.

John Viola represents and has represented a great many Rangers and The Rangers players - it will be him 'calling the shots' for the player, no doubt about it. Allan's head is now turned, probably has been since May, and it's whether or not he has it within himself and has the characteristics to do as he has publicly stated and see out the season with Hibs and push for promotion.

The size of the bids however show exactly where The Rangers are financially - really embarrasing 'offers' - if you were a The Rangers FC fan and you watched Dave King's interview with Jim 'Sycophant' White and you saw him bragging about his 35,000 bottles of wine......and then saw the £175K and £250K offers........deary me has the penny not dropped - mind if it has it would be added to the offer :greengrin the owner is more interested in his claret than his club :wink:

They were empty bottles. :greengrin

[brog]

Dearie me, I popped out for a couple of pints & came back to 7 pages of hysteria. First of all, let's be clear who the bad guys are here, it's that festering outfit from Glasgow known as The Rangers, or Sevco. Scott Allan is a fine young man who has played well for us for a season, he may do so for another season. He's undoubtedly been tapped & especially in recent days by his best friend joining Sevco. If the situation was reversed & he was a huge Hibs fan playing for say St Mirren we would be encouraging him to join us. Let us not descend into vitriol against Scott & lower ourselves to Sevco standards. Finally, Hibs so far have played a blinder. Let's be realistic however, nowadays the power rests with the player. There may come a point where we lose SL but hopefully not to them. Whatever happens we should judge Hibs on what they have tried to do & realism rather than idealism & I say this as someone who's still getting over us selling Joe Baker! Over the last 40 years we've sold genuine top class players such as Cormack, Brownlie, Blackley, Marinello, Cropley, Brown, Fletcher etc. Scott Allan may or may not turn out to be an equally outstanding player, the fact is players move on but Hibs will always be here & hopefully flourishing.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can we all just chill for a second. Taxi drivers are famous for talking garbage and this is the source yous are all reacting to? Allan will stay, I can still see him signing an extension

Are you for hire ;)

[Pete]

Are you for real? Where is it confirmed he said he wants to leave? Honestly our fans are such idiots sometimes

Good point. Maybe it's time to calm down until the club release a statement saying he's asked to leave.

As of now, some bids have been made then rejected and Scott will be starting our first league match. I don't mind if he sits this one out as his head maybe isn't right with all this.

We have to be professional as he's an asset...but ruthless should he start mucking us about.

[jonty]

Celtic every time as they aren't in our league and not in direct competition with us!!!

And they wouldn't loan him to the Rangers.

[GreenCastle]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k

Both would show terrible ambition from the board at this moment in time.

Don't really care at the end of the season - but the timing now !

Reality is he can sign for anyone in January and make it public or not.

[bingo70]

Then sell him to another team Bingo. Why does it have to be The Rangers? Other teams are interested and I'd rather sell Allan to Utd for £100k than to a team who we are fighting to get out this league for £250k.

You can't just force Allan to join another club.

The scenario we're talking about he's agreeing a deal with the rangers behind our back.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Can we all just chill for a second. Taxi drivers are famous for talking garbage and this is the source yous are all reacting to? Allan will stay, I can still see him signing an extension

Taxi drivers are full of utter *****!! But this taxi driver asked him as STV news filmed it...

[flash]

Me too

Thank **** you boys aren't making any decisions.

[Leith Green]

If the laddie has handed in a transfer request , then the club should make this clear in a statement. They should then go onto state that they are willing to sell the player but not to a direct rival to us..

[Scotchmist]

This is the watershed moment ..... The moment when we find out if we are a 'new Hibs'

The biggest failing of the Petrie era and what eventually brought us to where we are now was the credo in the Easter Road boardroom that the balance sheet took priority over what happened on the pitch. Petrie couldn't see past that, for him squeezing big bucks out of the OF and others was success. Not should we sell, but for how much should we sell ...... refusal to acknowledge that success on the pitch could also be a road to riches took us down the road to hell instead.

What we face now is a decision, not just between money and possible on field success, but whether or not the clubs fledgling new relationship with us is worth paying for. If Hibs are to be believed we cant possibly have factored into any budget a transfer fee for any player, that being the case we lose nothing by refusing to sell to the Huns ...... Yes Scott Allan might spit the dummy, but if that means keeping good relations between club and fans and leaving everybody in no doubt that we mean business this season, then that will be worth every penny we don't get from the Huns ..... and more. If that means Scotty having to be left out of the team because his attitude isn't right that will be a pity .....but the bigger picture is more important than him, or any other player.

I hope and pray that Hibs do the right thing here ..... I for one will love them for it if they do :aok:


:clapper: LEEANN
Please read this!!

[hfc rd]

Not seen it mentioned, but what about a loan to an English league 2 club or a Scottish premiership club, if the player simply doesn't want to be here? Just anyone except sevco who are our direct competition for automatic promotion.

[21.05.2016]

I'm actually feel that LD and co are in a no win situation regarding this.

The ****my ****witts from the west know exactly what they are doing and Allan's neebor Halliday will be tapping him up as we speak!

They are unsettling him with their derisory offers.
If they match out valuation for him I'm of the opinion that we should accept it and move on. Giving Stubbs the money to replace him.

I don't want someone whose not 100% behind the club to be there and pick up wages for being a ****ing Judas!

To that I feel sorry for LD, AS and co cos regardless of what they do they are going to get a kick in.... Especially LD. Do we really want the team to suffer because of one player. Yeah on his game he's a superb player but one player doesn't make a team!

Unless Scott Allan goes in front of the cameras in the next 24 hours and specifically states he wants to stay at Hibs, not this I'm happy, come out and say I don't want to play for Der Hun, and isn't interested in moving to this season then he can go!

This will not go away until he says that and is fully focused on staying at Hibs!

For those who have said they won't be back etc just think of how LD feels. She'll never appease everyone. Paying the wages of someone who may have to sit in the stands at the expense of the team or a player who wants to be elsewhere.

No win for them.

If he wants to go he can GTF but he needs to come out and say NO! Which I don't think he will.

After much deliberation I'm going to back the club whichever the decision they make!

This 100%!

[Aldo]

I see what you mean, but actually for me they can win. They simply do not sell to The Rangers and offer him to other clubs! If he refuses sit him in the stands and prove to fans we won't be pushed about by any club or player. We sell and **** all has changed from brown and Thompson era! Stand strong Hibs and for once just refuse the money they throw at us. We are competing for a league title and they would be throwing thousands away if they sell never mind make thousands IMO.

The question would then be would other clubs want him??

I agree regarding your brown and co comments but I'm fed up with it all already and like you've said I'd be very surprised if he plays on Sat! I think with his pal being there that's his chosen destination!

Yip but my point TC being is that the team would suffer should he not be happy and stay snd has an attitude problem and doesn't get picked cos he's not focused. The club, team and fans then suffer!

£1 million quid up front with a 20% sell on clause and he can GTF.

For me the only way he'll get my support is if he comes out and says he's aware of the speculation but regards of this he's staying!

[Tyler Durden]

Can we all just chill for a second. Taxi drivers are famous for talking garbage and this is the source yous are all reacting to? Allan will stay, I can still see him signing an extension

There's a video on the STV report where Allan can be seen saying "we'll see what happens" to the driver dropping him at training. It's not an unreasonable response to be honest. Rahman Bhardwaj and Jamie Borthwick saw fit to trail the STV report on Twitter, saying "hear from the man himself" on STV news.

Bit disappointed but not surprised to see people on here turn against the player based on Glasgow media reports - and they wonder why the OF use these tactics.

[Del Boy]

If we want Paton from Utd I'm sure we could come to an agreement that would be preferable to any deal with sevco

[bingo70]

Not seen it mentioned, but what about a loan to an English league 2 club or a Scottish premiership club? Just anyone except sevco who are our direct competition for automatic promotion.

He'd just say no as he on my wants to join the rangers and we're back to where we are now.

[Thecat23]

Agree with you but don't see Allan signing a contract with Utd, assuming you mean Dundee!

Hopefully there are other teams who can give him the wage he wants. We could loan him out for the year.

Yeah I'd be on the phone to every one in the Scottish Prem (bar the cheats) all teams down south asking if they are interested.

I honestly don't think a couple of posters on here grasp the reality that if he's sold to The Rangers it will really harm the relationship that's been built with the new board and fans. We can't afford to sell him to them we'd lose more than we'd gain yet folk keep saying they would still take the money of its right!

[Pretty Boy]

Selling him to rangers isn't a solution either. Lots of "grown men" won't be back and that's the reality.

I wish people would stop insinuating that keeping him and making him honour his contract is somehow unreasonable.

Exactly.

The contract suited him when he had **** all else going on. Suddenly he gets a 'better offer' and Hibs are supposed to roll over and let him do what he likes.

He made the decision to sign a 2 year contract and it should only be ended early on our terms.

[Lee Marvin]

Not seen it mentioned, but what about a loan to an English league 2 club or a Scottish premiership club? Just anyone except sevco who are our direct competition for automatic promotion.

Good shout. Much better than letting him rot in reserves and bring around the club for a year.

[Jonnyboy]

Haven't read the last seven pages of this thread because it's likely filled with loads of speculation and little else.

So, apologies if this has already been mentioned but I heard the Stubbs interview on the STV news at 6pm and amongst other things he said " we're quite prepared to let Scott run down his contract here"

Now it's my turn to speculate. SA will not go to Rangers until his ER contract is up.

[Leith Green]

Yeah I'd be on the phone to every one in the Scottish Prem (bar the cheats) all teams down south asking if they are interested.

I honestly don't think a couple of posters on here grasp the reality that if he's sold to The Rangers it will really harm the relationship that's been built with the new board and fans. We can't afford to sell him to them we'd lose more than we'd gain yet folk keep saying they would still take the money of its right!



I agree totally.. The only clear outcome has to be that Scott is not allowed to sign for Rangers

[Baldy Foghorn]

:agree:

'hell will freeze over' 'Gone are the days we sell our assets to the old firm' etc ...

You are becoming more tedious by the second....

[Thecat23]

The question would then be would other clubs want him??

I agree regarding your brown and co comments but I'm fed up with it all already and like you've said I'd be very surprised if he plays on Sat! I think with his pal being there that's his chosen destination!

Yip but my point TC being is that the team would suffer should he not be happy and stay snd has an attitude problem and doesn't get picked cos he's not focused. The club, team and fans then suffer!

£1 million quid up front with a 20% sell on clause and he can GTF.

For me the only way he'll get my support is if he comes out and says he's aware of the speculation but regards of this he's staying!

I would expect all clubs in the top flight would be interested maybe even Celtic? I don't think we'd have a problem getting teams interested! It would maybe harm us but we wouldn't be strengthening The Rangers though if you know what I mean?

I'd take the hit all day long before selling to that lot Aldo I really would. If it's £1m then yes you would then have to be crazy to turn that down but they don't have that sort of cash no chance!

[Mibbes Aye]

I'm sure it's not beyond our management teams abilities to explain to them why he's there without harming their development.

With any luck this situation might prick the ears up of clubs who are serious.

We both know how many players make it through to first-team successfully, even how many manage twenty or more games before disappearing to the lower leagues.

It's a tiny, tiny amount.

For the players in that squad it can only be immense pressure.

Then all of a sudden you're landed with a player who is seen by most as the most talented in the first-team squad but the club won't play.

And nor will they sell him.

So he gets to take a shirt that you or your mate might have had.

Or at best, you've got this unhappy malcontent in training with you, who shouldn't be there. The club are punishing him by making him train with you, yet you're supposedly the bright, potential future?

I would be embarrassed if my club was doing that. We are better than that, surely.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Haven't read the last seven pages of this thread because it's likely filled with loads of speculation and little else.

So, apologies if this has already been mentioned but I heard the Stubbs interview on the STV news at 6pm and amongst other things he said " we're quite prepared to let Scott run down his contract here"

Now it's my turn to speculate. SA will not go to Rangers until his ER contract is up.

Hope so Jon :agree:

[bingo70]

Yeah I'd be on the phone to every one in the Scottish Prem (bar the cheats) all teams down south asking if they are interested.

I honestly don't think a couple of posters on here grasp the reality that if he's sold to The Rangers it will really harm the relationship that's been built with the new board and fans. We can't afford to sell him to them we'd lose more than we'd gain yet folk keep saying they would still take the money of its right!

People need to wake up to the real world I'm afraid.

Nobody is saying we'd take the money for financial reasons, we'd take it because the alternative isn't a good solution either but at least this way we'd have a chance of replacing him.

Scott Allan having a poor first half to the season and then signing a pre contract for them in January would have a bigger impact on our season than him joining them now.

He's not going to be left to rot in the stands as that'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face, folk might want that but Stubbs won't so we're as well forgetting that option.

[HibbyAndy]

You are becoming more tedious by the second....


Wondered when you would show up up.

And you are more patronizing than ever....

[Sir David Gray]

I'm resigned to him joining Sevco at some point as I've seen it all before where our best players go to either Celtic or the old Rangers.

Jackson
Riordan
Laursen
Whittaker
Murray
Thomson
Brown

The list is endless so Scott Allan ending up there will hardly be a surprise. I just hope we don't sell him to them this season. It would utterly sicken the supporters and also make a mockery of our stated aim which is to win the league and go up as champions. Losing Allan to Sevco would almost certainly mean that we wouldn't be winning the league.

I don't expect Hibs to even think about accepting any offer until it becomes a serious one and the bids up until now have been anything but.

[Golden Bear]

There are a few posts on here which only serve to add fuel to the fire. It's all a bit disappointing.

[Baldy Foghorn]

If he goes to them, it's season over. That simple.

If he goes to them, we lose all the good work to galvanize this club bsvk together. That would be an unmittigated disaster.

Hibs can still salvage this. All they have to do is not sell to them. At any (realistic) price.

Really? Season over, more hyperbole.....

[silverhibee]

:agree:

Ten minutes before Petrie starts getting it.

Petrie is sweeping the M8 East to West as I type so that SA doesn't cut his feet. :wink::greengrin

[HNA7]

Can we cut out the personal stuff please or some posters will be taking a week off to cool down.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The question would then be would other clubs want him??

I agree regarding your brown and co comments but I'm fed up with it all already and like you've said I'd be very surprised if he plays on Sat! I think with his pal being there that's his chosen destination!

Yip but my point TC being is that the team would suffer should he not be happy and stay snd has an attitude problem and doesn't get picked cos he's not focused. The club, team and fans then suffer!

£1 million quid up front with a 20% sell on clause and he can GTF.

For me the only way he'll get my support is if he comes out and says he's aware of the speculation but regards of this he's staying!

It would certainly require an exceptional bid for his moving to Rangers now to be palatable in any sense. Failing that, he must be told he only has a year left and will remain at Hibs, then he can sign a pre-contract with FC Bigotry in January, if he so wishes.

[hfc rd]

I'm sure other clubs will be alerted that he wants to leave and will be making enquiries to Hibs. Really doubt that Sevco are the only club out there just now that are interested in Scott as I'm sure other clubs will have him on their wanted list.

[Aldo]

I would expect all clubs in the top flight would be interested maybe even Celtic? I don't think we'd have a problem getting teams interested! It would maybe harm us but we wouldn't be strengthening The Rangers though if you know what I mean? I'd take the hit all day long before selling to that lot Aldo I really would. If it's £1m then yes you would then have to be crazy to turn that down but they don't have that sort of cash no chance!

Yip but there are probably only 3 teams in the PL that could afford the fee.... Dons, Utd and Smellic.

Very very tough few days for the club IMHO! Agreed we shouldn't really sell to our rivals.

[andyg]

It's simple we don't let him move to Rangers. Anyone else possibly yes but not them.

We can't weaken ourselves and strengthen them when we are trying to beat them to the Championship title.

We still play him and we still support him, he's still wearing a Hibs jersey. He's not just going to give up when he's on the park, he's a professional who loves the game and will still give 100%, he won't want to ruin his reputation after last season achievements and after his bad time down South.

Play it cool Hibs weather the storm and be strong.

[Baldy Foghorn]

If he doesn't want to stay I would get rid provided the Huns stump up.
Would rather use the money to get people in who want to be here.
The let him rot in the reserves option, while tempting, only hurts us.

Yip agree with that

[eastmainsmsh]

I'd hate to have a player who doesn't want to be here no matter how good they are

[GreenCastle]

Can we really see him (so called Sevco fan) going to Celtic?

Probably why no interest from them.

[hibees 7062]

:clapper: LEEANN
Please read this!!

We've got two directors on here have we not ?

[BarneyK]

Can we really see him (so called Sevco fan) going to Celtic?

Probably why no interest from them.

*cough* Scott Brown

[Clarence]

Really? Season over, more hyperbole.....

Hyperbole? More chance of winning the superbole.:wink:

[Aldo]

It would certainly require an exceptional bid for his moving to Rangers now to be palatable in any sense. Failing that, he must be told he only has a year left and will remain at Hibs, then he can sign a pre-contract with FC Bigotry in January, if he so wishes.

I mentioned this earlier one interview by SA can sort this once and for all but I don't see it happening.

He won't be focused or interested in Hibs and that isn't fair on the rest of the team, club and more importantly the fans!

The only good thing in all this is we hold all the aces and until they meet our valuation of SA they can do one!

[Jonnyboy]

Has any other MSM source 'reported' that SA has asked away? Other than STV, I mean.

[MWHIBBIES]

Should take the money and run, he isn't even that good.

[lochhibs]

has he handed in a transfer request?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Ffs

[JimBHibees]

Sorry I don't agree! Managers often lose players they want to keep and can do nothing about it! Stubbs may do everything he can to keep him but the board could say we're selling!

I disagree that Dempster would want to jeopardise the relationship with AS.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Wondered when you would show up up.

And you are more patronizing than ever....

Really? You don't even know me:cb

[emerald green]

Rangers have played Hibs big time here, the timing of this bid and their signing of holt prior to this is structured in my opinion.. We basically go into a shambles trying to identify and sign an adequate replacement without it damaging the start of our season.

I agree. A lot has been made about Hibs having to get off to a flying start in the league this season and basically do what the Yams did last season.

If Allan goes now to our biggest rivals for the one automatic promotion spot, as well as Robertson & Craig away, El Alagui out, Boyle out, Keatings & Carmichael not played a game pre-season either, then this is the last thing Hibs need.

As far as Allan staying or going is concerned, ultimately it will be up to him at the end of the day. Ever since Bosman, the power has lain with the players, not the clubs. LD and AS are in a very difficult position here, and the Huns know it. The timing of this insulting "offer" is deliberate on their part it seems to me.

I've said since the end of last season that The Rangers would have a better and stronger squad this season. If they do get Allan then Hibs will really have their work cut out to win the Championship this season. He is really the mainstay of the Hibs team.

The damage Allan signing for The Huns so close to the start of a new season would do to the hopes and morale of the Hibs support would be severe also IMHO.

F*** sake, some things never change. :grr:

[Thecat23]

People need to wake up to the real world I'm afraid.

Nobody is saying we'd take the money for financial reasons, we'd take it because the alternative isn't a good solution either but at least this way we'd have a chance of replacing him.

Scott Allan having a poor first half to the season and then signing a pre contract for them in January would have a bigger impact on our season than him joining them now.

He's not going to be left to rot in the stands as that'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face, folk might want that but Stubbs won't so we're as well forgetting that option.

I don't think we'd leave him in the stands although that's what I'd personally want. I'd still take the chance on him and give him game time and I think he's big enough to know it's not to long before he can go for nothing. That's only if he agrees to stay!

[brog]

You can't just force Allan to join another club.

The scenario we're talking about he's agreeing a deal with the rangers behind our back.


Can we really see him (so called Sevco fan) going to Celtic?

Probably why no interest from them.

Of course, it happens all the time. Players' loyalty these days is much more to their wallet than to any childhood football affiliation. TBF to them in that respect they're really no different to any other worker. Who wouldn't be tempted to change jobs if we were offered a 300% increase in wages.

[Mibbes Aye]

I don't think we did so well when we sold Brown and Thomson although I respect that it was time for them to go. We got a lot of money but the club has got steadily worse every year since. We are now 5 years in a row below Ross County (Dingwall pop 8000) in the league. 5 years.
Do you trust the board with the money again? I don't.

I trusted the board with the money the first time :confused:

They did what they said they would - worked towards reducing the debt, so more money could go towards the squad, and built the East Mains that Mowbray and Collins wanted.

Lots of people on here at the time were saying 'speculate to accumulate' but they never did and I've never seen much evidence of it working in the past?

There's a bigger picture here. We've had slumps before, this isn't the first one in our lifetime :wink:, but we will be back and we are in a strong, strong position to do so.

Happy to bet that in our lifetime we will witness far, far more success than Ross County, even with a starting point from now.

[DownInAlbion]

He is obviously bored in house ignoring all of this as he just read my direct message on Instagram ;)

[truehibernian]

Transfer request or not, head turned or not - I'd play the lad regardless on Saturday. He's a professional footballer so you'd assume he wants to win games and win for his teammates if anything else. Then I'd cup tie him in the League Cup too........play him first 4 league games too........then if he wants to go he has to wait until the offers from elsewhere come in on deadline day........but he is told that The Rangers offers will simply not be listened too......in other words 'simply not the best' :aok:

If at any point above he spits the dummy or feigns injury - reserve/development football all season and he can watch The Rangers as a fan if he pleases. Football is a very short career and if he wants to play EPL football no one will touch him with his track record this far (and his agents) - he'll be seen as a toxic player out for himself.

[Stokesy's on fire]

We can take a huge positive from this...the Huns think Allan's our best player...well I know some don't agree but he's not nearly as good as Fyvie! He's a great player no doubt but honestly Fraser Fyvie is the better player. we shouldn't sell any player to the club that's trying to hold us back and Allan will probably know that a move to Rangers is not a step up. If we sell Allan to our rivals no matter what the circumstances. put it this way would Celtic have sold Petrov to Rangers when they were head to head to win the league?? No chance! We want to win the championship no matter what!!

[hfc rd]

Just tweeted Sky Sports to ask if their is any truth in this. They haven't heard anything about this transfer request that's been handed in by Scott Allan. Only that we've rejected two bids from the rangers.

[scoopyboy]

Yip agree with that

Have you bought that rose bush yet?

[HibbyAndy]

Really? You don't even know me:cb

So we can take your word for it you will 'walk to Glasgow on the M8 with a bush up your arse' If you are wrong ? OR Whats your stance on 'hell freezing over' before selling SA to Sevco orrrrrrrr 'We don't sell to the old firm. anymore'

All hypothetical ofcourse:wink:


But jumping all over my post a few weeks back saying 'Nonsense' Regarding Allan's move to Sevco makes you look, Well a tad silly.

[Pete]

has he handed in a transfer request?

That's the beauty of it. Nobody really has a clue. :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

So we can take your word for it you will 'walk to Glasgow on the M8 with a bush up your arse' If you are wrong ? OR Whats your stance on 'hell freezing over' before selling SA to Sevco orrrrrrrr 'We don't sell to the old firm. anymore'

All hypothetical ofcourse:wink:


But jumping all over my post a few weeks back saying 'Nonsense' Regarding Allan's move to Sevco makes you look, Well a tad silly.

I was told in good faith by someone at Club, it now appears SA now wants to leave. Might look silly, do I care, not one jot.....

[AlbertK86]

It's simple we don't let him move to Rangers. Anyone else possibly yes but not them. We can't weaken ourselves and strengthen them when we are trying to beat them to the Championship title. We still play him and we still support him, he's still wearing a Hibs jersey. He's not just going to give up when he's on the park, he's a professional who loves the game and will still give 100%, he won't want to ruin his reputation after last season achievements and after his bad time down South. Play it cool Hibs weather the storm and be strong.

Very good post

IF he wants to go as it seems likely and we make him stay he will have to just take it on the chin and keep showing his worth.

That way he may realise his previously stated ambition of making it down south.

However the bottom line is the guy is and always has been a Rangers fan. He will have dreamt of playing for them all through his youth. When that club that you support comes calling I think most would want to go.

However it would be good to see some loyalty to Stubbs and Hibs

I have a feeling the club will pull out all the stops to keep him. They will not want to undo all the good work.

If we stand firm I'm pretty sure Scott will be professional enough to give his all and then either get a pre contract in January either with them but hopefully with a EPL team

Whatever happens I'll back the club. I will be seething if we cave in to the Sevconians but won't be handing my season ticket back and will be cheering them on at every game I can make.

GGTTH

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Taxi drivers are full of utter *****!! But this taxi driver asked him as STV news filmed it...

Surprised its taken so long for this to be pointed out. Quite handy that the tv crew was there to film the conversation! :rolleyes:

[QMU-1875]

Can folk stop jumping to conclusions it's embarrassing. A report from STV that's source is a taxi driver is all we have until then can we stop talking about booing him etc?

[Cabbage East]

A hun mate has just text saying Allan is signing. Can anyone tell me what has changed since 4pm, the last time I read this thread?

[cabbageandribs1875]

What would people prefer to happen?

1) sell to Celtic for £100k
2) sell to sevco for £750k


i'l buck the trend....sevco for me :agree: £750k could hopefully find another 2/3 scott allans....just as long as they don't use the word HONOUR after they've signed, scott allan would be a dishonourable human being going to a dishonourable filthy vile bigoted sectarian club....a match

[jacomo]

People need to wake up to the real world I'm afraid.

Nobody is saying we'd take the money for financial reasons, we'd take it because the alternative isn't a good solution either but at least this way we'd have a chance of replacing him.

Scott Allan having a poor first half to the season and then signing a pre contract for them in January would have a bigger impact on our season than him joining them now.

He's not going to be left to rot in the stands as that'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face, folk might want that but Stubbs won't so we're as well forgetting that option.

Selling to The Rangers would send a message to the rest of our squad that we've given up hope of winning this League before a ball is kicked.

The Rangers are our direct rivals this season. They are doing what they can to win. We need to do the same.

[Andy74]

Football is now a total joke.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Have you bought that rose bush yet?

Not allowed strenuous exercise J....Thank the Lord lol (Dodged a bullet)

[Baldy Foghorn]

Football is now a total joke.

Can we say SA has been tapped up?

[southern hibby]

Taxi drivers are full of utter *****!! But this taxi driver asked him as STV news filmed it...

As a taxi driver like to say THANKS for enlightening me too why I'm bunged up. Lol

GGTTH

[HibbyAndy]

I was told in good faith by someone at Club, it now appears SA now wants to leave. Might look silly, do I care, not one jot.....


I don't care one jot either if you care, The FACT is i said it was possible we would sell to Sevco and you rubbished it calling my post nonsense..I said the good relationship the board has built up with the fans would count for zero if we sold SA and again you rubbished that post.

What is your take on the boards relationship now with the fans IF...IF...we sell SA to Sevco ?

[S4uzee]

He is obviously bored in house ignoring all of this as he just read my direct message on Instagram ;)

What was your message?

[emerald green]

Football is now a total joke.

:agree: It has been for some time.

[scoopyboy]

Not allowed strenuous exercise J....Thank the Lord lol (Dodged a bullet)

Accepted with a wry smile.:greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

I don't care one jot either if you care, The FACT is i said it was possible we would sell to Sevco and you rubbished it calling my post nonsense..I said the good relationship the board has built up with the fans would count for zero if we sold SA and again you rubbished that post.

What is your take on the boards relationship now with the fans IF...IF...we sell SA to Sevco ?

I can't speak for other "fans", but I will still back the board. They were adamant Today in their stance, it is SA and his agent who are determined to leave, what in reality can the Board do......

[Thecat23]

I was told in good faith by someone at Club, it now appears SA now wants to leave. Might look silly, do I care, not one jot.....

Trust me nothin in football is done until it's done! I've had many folk at Hibs tell me things that haven't happened and on this case i think whoever told you doesn't know Scott that well as he's been telling family and friends he would prefer to leave and play for The Rangers.

That's why I said what I did last night! Either way you were only going on what you thought was good info nothing wrong with that!

[silverhibee]

Cant see him being picked for Sat - his head will be all over the place, in a way the blue-nose keek have won Round 1 already.

And that is what Stubbs will say, Scott's head isn't in the right place just now and won't be 100% focused on the game, pretty much what Mowbray said when the huns put a bid in for Riordan a few days before we played them, mind you we were in the top league then and they weren't our rivals.

[bingo70]

Selling to The Rangers would send a message to the rest of our squad that we've given up hope of winning this League before a ball is kicked.

The Rangers are our direct rivals this season. They are doing what they can to win. We need to do the same.

No it wouldn't.

They'd look at it like rational grown ups and see if the player really wanted to go there we've got very little choice.

I'd also argue it could motivate the players to show we're not a one man team.

[Thecat23]

Can we say SA has been tapped up?

No as there isn't any proof he was. The Rangers put in a bid and now he wants to go sadly nothing we can do.

[JimBHibees]

Id let him rot in the Dev team. If he's been speaking to them behind Hibs back he can rot for a season. Not worth giving him to them.

If he is agitating then call his bluff he will soon come round to playing for Hibs again.

[DownInAlbion]

What was your message?
Remember taking corners at ibrox [emoji23] [emoji23]

[stevie-bee]

If he goes the money must be invested in the team ,
also we i think LD would do that ,
I

[bingo70]

Football is now a total joke.

Andy, I normally agree with everything you say hibs related but I'm amazed you never saw this coming?

It was obvious this was always the route it was going to go down.

Hopefully the club find a way of keeping him happy here but I'd say it's extremely unlikely.

[Mibbes Aye]

Football is now a total joke.

Perhaps football interfacing with web 2.0 :greengrin

It all seemed fine when folk like Jim McLean were the gaffer and you were signed to your club for the rest of your life, unless he fell out with you.

[scoopyboy]

Football is now a total joke.

That's the way I feel just now Andy but I know I can never give up the cause and will cheer up shortly.

If we have to sell him then I hope its done relatively quickly after we find we are past the point of no return.

I would hope and expect all money raised would be ploughed back into the team.

I would want replacements in for first league match as it's more important than ever we get off to a flier. If we can win our first few league matches then he may be forgotten about.

When we sold Kenny miller to Rangers we used the money very well and he was quickly forgotten.

[CB_NO3]

Tbf I fancied Der Hun to win the league this season even if we did have Allan in our team. If its Allan that has asked for the move then there is sweet FA we can do. Just think, if Petrie was in charge, he would have probably accepted last night poor offer.

[JimBHibees]

Him himself has told players and friends.

Whether he has or not call his bluff.

[SquashedFrogg]

Can we all just chill for a second. Taxi drivers are famous for talking garbage and this is the source yous are all reacting to? Allan will stay, I can still see him signing an extension

We all hope this to be the case but he hasn't signed one thus far so very much doubt he will now. *Unless we produce a contract he's worthy of*

Modern football is a ***** sometimes

[Pete]

No it wouldn't.

They'd look at it like rational grown ups and see if the player really wanted to go there we've got very little choice.

I'd also argue it could motivate the players to show we're not a one man team.

Again, more suggestions that not letting him walk out the door is irrational, stubborn or not "grown up".

The bottom line is that there is very little HE can do if he wants to leave and we don't want him to. It's not a direction a lot of clubs go down but that's the reality and as this situation is unusual I wouldn't bet against the club being "irrational" (in your eyes).

[silverhibee]

It may not be unreasonable, but like Stirling at Liverpool, he wanted to go they said no, when the price was right he went.

FFS we are talking about a few hundred grand here, not £49m smackers.

[HibbyAndy]

I can't speak for other "fans", but I will still back the board. They were adamant Today in their stance, it is SA and his agent who are determined to leave, what in reality can the Board do......



Let him rot in the reserves like Silverhibee has said..We hold all the aces here..Selling him to our tital rivals for me is suicide ..Their has to be other clubs interested, Tout him left right and center to other clubs, ANY club bar Sevco..Selling to them and many fans will have had it.

Selling our best player (Thee best player in the league at that ) Has undone all the good work imo and the feel good factor starts at zero.

We do NOT have to let him go to them.

[Hibeewilly]

Scott allan is going nowhere

[Libby Hibby]

Anyone but Rangers IF Scott Allan wants to leave

[scoopyboy]

Tbf I fancied Der Hun to win the league this season even if we did have Allan in our team. If its Allan that has asked for the move then there is sweet FA we can do. Just think, if Petrie was in charge, he would have probably accepted last night poor offer.

Not a chance in hell he would have accepted that.

To be fair to Petrie he did very well in getting the most out of clubs buying from us.

Don't even remotely see where you are getting that from.

He has outstayed his welcome by years but was never found wanting when we were selling.