Scott Allan - signs a 4 year deal with Celtic

[3pm]

Let him rot in the reserves like Silverhibee has said..We hold all the aces here..Selling him to our tital rivals for me is suicide ..Their has to be other clubs interested, Tout him left right and center to other clubs, ANY club bar Sevco..Selling to them and many fans will have had it.

Selling our best player (Thee best player in the league at that ) Has undone all the good work imo and the feel good factor starts at zero.

We do NOT have to let him go to them.

Where's the cash coming from for a replacement if we leave him in the reserves?

[Ozyhibby]

Again, more suggestions that not letting him walk out the door is irrational, stubborn or not "grown up".

The bottom line is that there is very little HE can do if he wants to leave and we don't want him to. It's not a direction a lot of clubs go down but that's the reality and as this situation is unusual I wouldn't bet against the club being "irrational" (in your eyes).

Agree. The reason Rangers feel they can come in with a low ball offer is they know good old Hibs always take the dough in the end. Time for the club to act in line with the people who fund the club.

[Andy74]

Andy, I normally agree with everything you say hibs related but I'm amazed you never saw this coming?

It was obvious this was always the route it was going to go down.

Hopefully the club find a way of keeping him happy here but I'd say it's extremely unlikely.

Allan seemed genuinely happy to be here and grateful for getting him back playing. If he is now demanding to leave then no, I didn't see that coming this time. It's now becoming impossible to keep good player at all. What is the point?

[eastmainsmsh]

Fyvie can play there I've not seen much of McGinn from St mirren but Paul McGowan is a player I like if sa goes to the Huns

[bingo70]

Again, more suggestions that not letting him walk out the door is irrational, stubborn or not "grown up".

The bottom line is that there is very little HE can do if he wants to leave and we don't want him to. It's not a direction a lot of clubs go down but that's the reality and as this situation is unusual I wouldn't bet against the club being "irrational" (in your eyes).

He can sign a pre contract in January, that's a big ace he's got up his sleeve abd would have a huge impact on the second half of our season.

[The_Horde]

FFS we are talking about a few hundred grand here, not £49m smackers.

Allan will be away if he wants but only if the right money is involved. 1m I would say but I reckon the club will have lower estimations now that he wants away..

[Ozyhibby]

Where's the cash coming from for a replacement if we leave him in the reserves?

Then put him out on loan. Lots of clubs would take him.

[SquashedFrogg]

Whether he has or not call his bluff.

Call his bluff? The boy knows he good. We all know he's good. His agent, wife, postman will be telling him he's good.

Why would you not want to massively increase your wage if everyone was telling you how good you were? (That's from his perspective)

He left Dundee Utd after 3 mins of game time, so why expect he would stay with us? Let's get real here. He's been leaving since he joined us.

And for anyone saying "but he said on our TV that he likes it here".... Every player who has ever left a team has said that.

We sell but to anyone but the huns for maximum price.

I'm 1,000,000 convinced our club have known this and will have made contingency plans. Relax people. Trust our club.

[Sir David Gray]

Sadly we still have another five weeks of this to go until the transfer window shuts.

[Col2]

if facts are taken into account and thought through without emotion and bias, there is still no scenario that makes sense from us selling our best player to our only rival in this league. One of those facts is that The Rangers don't have silly money to play with so we can discount any £1m+ bids.

Therefore he will stay, no doubt in my mind. But it will be a rough ride and we need to avoid any witch hunts at this stage (some seem to be building up). The reality is he is a Rangers supporter and has always wanted to play for the Rangers. He may still get the chance but not in this transfer window.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Fyvie can play there I've not seen much of McGinn from St mirren but Paul McGowan is a player I like if sa goes to the Huns



not exactly a pleasant role model for our younger fans

[Ozyhibby]

Call his bluff? The boy knows he good. We all know he's good. His agent, wife, postman will be telling him he's good.

Why would you not want to massively increase your wage if everyone was telling you how good you were? (That's from his perspective)

He left Dundee Utd after 3 mins of game time, so why expect he would stay with us? Let's get real here. He's been leaving since he joined us.

And for anyone saying "but he said on our TV that he likes it here".... Every player who has ever left a team has said that.

We sell but to anyone but the huns for maximum price.

I'm 1,000,000 convinced our club have known this and will have made contingency plans. Relax people. Trust our club.

Trust our club? Really? Bit early for that I'm afraid.

[HibbyAndy]

Where's the cash coming from for a replacement if we leave him in the reserves?


Sell him to ANY team bar the huns.

I reckon letting him rot in the reserves and not selling him to the huns would be worth more in the long term.

[Libby Hibby]

Then put him out on loan. Lots of clubs would take him.

That's just crazy talk Ozy

[Aldo]

Fyvie can play there I've not seen much of McGinn from St mirren but Paul McGowan is a player I like if sa goes to the Huns

PM is a thug plain and simple and is currently wearing a tag meaning he's to be in the house between 7pm onwards.

Not the sort of player I want to see at ER tbh!

[Hibernia&Alba]

He can sign a pre contract in January, that's a big ace he's got up his sleeve abd would have a huge impact on the second half of our season.

And that's exactly what he should have to do, unless Hunco make a bid which is simply too good to refuse.

[Pretty Boy]

Allan seemed genuinely happy to be here and grateful for getting him back playing. If he is now demanding to leave then no, I didn't see that coming this time. It's now becoming impossible to keep good player at all. What is the point?

Spot on Andy.

Whilst I know this will pass you really do have to question what the point is in.following a team that has every good player that graces the jersey snatched away.

It's not just a Hibs thing, throughout football every country has a small band of clubs that get what they want, when they want it and it's completely disheartening.

[Broken Gnome]

Allan seemed genuinely happy to be here and grateful for getting him back playing. If he is now demanding to leave then no, I didn't see that coming this time. It's now becoming impossible to keep good player at all. What is the point?

The relationship with Stubbs and gratitude to Hibs all really stems from questions on what he would do if Rangers wanted him: it was the most obvious interest by a mile and the offer most likely to turn him.

I can't believe for a minute this would be a change of heart: if he wants to go now, he must have known that would have been the case all along yet still we were peddled some idealistic notion of loyalty.

Genuinely hard to trust a single thing a player says now. Galling. And I would totally understand why he would want to go - football, money and family. It's more the fact we were led to believe that wouldn't be an issue for the next year.

[silverhibee]

People need to wake up to the real world I'm afraid.

Nobody is saying we'd take the money for financial reasons, we'd take it because the alternative isn't a good solution either but at least this way we'd have a chance of replacing him.

Scott Allan having a poor first half to the season and then signing a pre contract for them in January would have a bigger impact on our season than him joining them now.

He's not going to be left to rot in the stands as that'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face, folk might want that but Stubbs won't so we're as well forgetting that option.

Maybe Stubbs should give Strachan a phone and ask him what he would do.

[truehibernian]

That's the way I feel just now Andy but I know I can never give up the cause and will cheer up shortly.

If we have to sell him then I hope its done relatively quickly after we find we are past the point of no return.

I would hope and expect all money raised would be ploughed back into the team.

I would want replacements in for first league match as it's more important than ever we get off to a flier. If we can win our first few league matches then he may be forgotten about.

When we sold Kenny miller to Rangers we used the money very well and he was quickly forgotten.

That's where I am scoopy - I PM'd Cat earlier and this move has been on the cards for a while (according to an ex player who still keeps tabs on things). What I'm sure of (to myself) is that Stubbs is not daft and although a young manager, he has seen this scenario play out time and time again as a player and coach. Even his mate Wayne would tell him how to play managers and agents off each other :greengrin

I did also hear that we have these three Celtic lads in mind - whether that was reliant on the sale of Allan I don't know - but I would snap hands off to get all three for Allan (regardless of where he goes) - they would make Hibs a potent threat on all fronts.

I'd wait a week though and let The Rangers stew........and thus alert other clubs - who knows who would come in and bid and they may be a better option than the 'romantic' option of The Rangers.

[Baldy Foghorn]

No it wouldn't.

They'd look at it like rational grown ups and see if the player really wanted to go there we've got very little choice.

I'd also argue it could motivate the players to show we're not a one man team.

It's a no win for the Club, damned if they do, damned if they don't

[bingo70]

Then put him out on loan. Lots of clubs would take him.

He's no a piece of meat we can just pack off to whatever part of the country suits us best.

If the rumours are true it's the rangers he wants to join and that's where he'll end up.

[Pete]

He can sign a pre contract in January, that's a big ace he's got up his sleeve abd would have a huge impact on the second half of our season.

Regardless of the short term outcome this is always going to be hanging over us.

If he signs a pre contract with them the solution is simple...and it isn't offloading him for a small fee.

[cabbageandribs1875]

2009 guests :shocked: wonder how many are fans of the poppy thieves

[truehibernian]

Maybe Stubbs should give Strachan a phone and ask him what he would do.

:greengrin.....you're an even naughtier boy.........tell Deek to get match fit :greengrin

[TheReg!]

Sell him to ANY team bar the huns.

I reckon letting him rot in the reserves and not selling him to the huns would be worth more in the long term.

This 100%
It would be better for Hibs not to play SA than him going to Them! It's absolute suicide to give the leagues best player to our main rivals for peanuts. We have got to hold firm and I've a feeling that we won't give in!

[Pete]

He's no a piece of meat we can just pack off to whatever part of the country suits us best.

If the rumours are true it's the rangers he wants to join and that's where he'll end up.

Loan him to Rangers?

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

If he goes (and hopefully it's not Sevco) I'd like to see us spend the money on a worthy replacement. Sarcevic from Fleetwood or Moussa from Charlton are both really good attacking midfielders.


Obviously my preferred option is for Scott to stay.

[grunt]

Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar 35m35 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/624294156396068865) @TheRealDaveG (https://twitter.com/TheRealDaveG) All I can say is Stubbs' comments in tomorrow's papers are well worth a read. Very strong stuff.

[Ozyhibby]

He's no a piece of meat we can just pack off to whatever part of the country suits us best.

If the rumours are true it's the rangers he wants to join and that's where he'll end up.

True, but he might prefer it to a year in the stands.

[GreenCastle]

Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar35m35 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/624294156396068865)@TheRealDaveG (https://twitter.com/TheRealDaveG) All I can say is Stubbs' comments in tomorrow's papers are well worth a read. Very strong stuff.

With Stubbs having played for Celtic...could be interesting..as he doesn't really like Sevco.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Let him rot in the reserves like Silverhibee has said..We hold all the aces here..Selling him to our tital rivals for me is suicide ..Their has to be other clubs interested, Tout him left right and center to other clubs, ANY club bar Sevco..Selling to them and many fans will have had it.

Selling our best player (Thee best player in the league at that ) Has undone all the good work imo and the feel good factor starts at zero.

We do NOT have to let him go to them.

I still don't think we will let him go there. As you say let him move elsewhere, if it were me I would be phoning Lawell, and asking about McGeouch and Henderson in exchange?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar35m35 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/624294156396068865)@TheRealDaveG (https://twitter.com/TheRealDaveG) All I can say is Stubbs' comments in tomorrow's papers are well worth a read. Very strong stuff.



what time do the online versions appear :hyper

[silverhibee]

I can't speak for other "fans", but I will still back the board. They were adamant Today in their stance, it is SA and his agent who are determined to leave, what in reality can the Board do......

Who do i phone and i will let them know.

[Hibernia&Alba]

2009 guests :shocked: wonder how many are fans of the poppy thieves

Loads will be huns who have come out of hiding, thinking HMRC have gone away. Now I've mentioned the taxman they'll vanish.

[Sir David Gray]

Spot on Andy.

Whilst I know this will pass you really do have to question what the point is in.following a team that has every good player that graces the jersey snatched away.

It's not just a Hibs thing, throughout football every country has a small band of clubs that get what they want, when they want it and it's completely disheartening.

Previously, whilst it was still soul destroying to see the likes of Kevin Thomson, Ian Murray and Steven Whittaker move to the old Rangers, we would always have to accept that they were playing at a far higher level than we were at and they could offer the player European football, silverware and a top dollar wage.

Now though, Sevco are no better than we are. They are playing in the second tier of Scottish football and not competing for major silverware or playing in Europe. If anything, if Scott Allan does end up there, it will be even more depressing than any of the other previous times.

[3pm]

Who do i phone and i will let them know.

He'll not leave to go anywhere else IMO.

[Greenworld]

No going to rangers end off

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[emerald green]

I always got the feeling after all the rave reviews that Scott Allan correctly got last season, and even after all the platitudes about being "happy at Hibs", it was inevitable he would end up at Sevco.

He's not away yet. However, but the signs are ominous, and for someone who has seen better players than Allan leave ER, all too depressingly familiar.

What makes this particular situation (potentially - I don't know if he's gone yet) so bad IMO is the fact that Hibs are struggling to get out of a lower league alongside The Rangers. That has never been the case when Hibs best players were sold in the past.

[HibbyAndy]

I still don't think we will let him go there. As you say let him move elsewhere, if it were me I would be phoning Lawell, and asking about McGeouch and Henderson in exchange?

:agree:


Don't want to see SA go but i'd rather if he was to move on he went to Celtc who are in no direct competition with us and we got a player or 2 in return.

[Stevie Reid]

I often say that nothing surprises me in football these days, but I am surprised at this development, if true - especially given Allan's very public statements recently. Also even more perplexing why he didn't sign for them last year, when he may have gotten more money.

Even if he does want to go, I'd want Hibs to keep him, even if it means not playing him. Yes it would weaken us, but it wouldn't be strengthening them at the same time.

Player power goes a long way these days, but he is under contract for another year.

[SlickShoes]

Scott Allan will be at hibs all season, he will win player of the year again, he will score against rangers this weekend.

[silverhibee]

Where's the cash coming from for a replacement if we leave him in the reserves?

The bench/youth/Deek :greengrin

[Del Boy]

Promises to be a lively atmosphere on Saturday anyway.

[SquashedFrogg]

Haven't read the last seven pages of this thread because it's likely filled with loads of speculation and little else.

So, apologies if this has already been mentioned but I heard the Stubbs interview on the STV news at 6pm and amongst other things he said " we're quite prepared to let Scott run down his contract here"

Now it's my turn to speculate. SA will not go to Rangers until his ER contract is up.

They tried to sign him before he came to us so that backs up my thinking all along.

He will go to them (via pre-contract) next season.

Let's hope he has another year in the Championship with them :aok:

[HiBremian]

In investment mode:

Der Hun's offer is around £225k
Der Hun's wage offer to SA around £8k/w (??)
Cabbage offer new 3 year contract at 10k/w
Cost of new contract after 1 year (and hopefully promotion) £520k
Value of SA end of successful 15/16 season: £2m?
Gain from investment: £1480k
Less interest on loan of £520k @ 4%: -£21k
Less lost Hun transfer fee : -£225k
Net gain: £1.234m

Signed

The Tache

PS Gain in fans' goodwill : priceless:flag:

[snooky]

Where's the cash coming from for a replacement if we leave him in the reserves?

Where's the cash coming from if we sell him to Rangers? :wink:

[Hermit Crab]

SA will be going nowhere. Relax people. The huns can bleat all they want, I have been told its on follow follow that he's already signed :na na:

[Baldy Foghorn]

In investment mode:

Der Hun's offer is around £225k
Der Hun's wage offer to SA around £8k/w (??)
Cabbage offer new 3 year contract at 10k/w
Cost of new contract after 1 year (and hopefully promotion) £520k
Value of SA end of successful 15/16 season: £2m?
Gain from investment: £1480k
Less interest on loan of £520k @ 4%: -£21k
Less lost Hun transfer fee : -£225k
Net gain: £1.234m

Signed

The Tache

PS Gain in fans' goodwill : priceless:flag:

Jesus wept

[cabbageandribs1875]

In investment mode:

Der Hun's offer is around £225k
Der Hun's wage offer to SA around £8k/w (??)
Cabbage offer new 3 year contract at 10k/w
Cost of new contract after 1 year (and hopefully promotion) £520k
Value of SA end of successful 15/16 season: £2m?
Gain from investment: £1480k
Less interest on loan of £520k @ 4%: -£21k
Less lost Hun transfer fee : -£225k
Net gain: £1.234m

Signed

The Tache

PS Gain in fans' goodwill : priceless:flag:



the fastest way to bankrupt us i guess

[silverhibee]

:greengrin.....you're an even naughtier boy.........tell Deek to get match fit :greengrin

Doing his best,he has just finished training. :aok:

[jimmythefish]

We can't & don't think we will sell SA to them, LD & AS are not stupid the consequences would be catastrophic all their hard work on & off the field destroyed I don't think so, maybe SA has had his head turned we don't know that for sure, but if he has, I hope that he quickly realises that Hibs just cannot sell him to them he knuckles down & carry on the good work from last season

[Sir David Gray]

In investment mode:

Der Hun's offer is around £225k
Der Hun's wage offer to SA around £8k/w (??)
Cabbage offer new 3 year contract at 10k/w
Cost of new contract after 1 year (and hopefully promotion) £520k
Value of SA end of successful 15/16 season: £2m?
Gain from investment: £1480k
Less interest on loan of £520k @ 4%: -£21k
Less lost Hun transfer fee : -£225k
Net gain: £1.234m

Signed

The Tache

PS Gain in fans' goodwill : priceless:flag:

If you think Hibs will offer him anywhere near to £10k a week then I'll have a pint of whatever you're having.

You'll be lucky if we're paying him £2k a week.

[Thecat23]

That's the way I feel just now Andy but I know I can never give up the cause and will cheer up shortly.

If we have to sell him then I hope its done relatively quickly after we find we are past the point of no return.

I would hope and expect all money raised would be ploughed back into the team.

I would want replacements in for first league match as it's more important than ever we get off to a flier. If we can win our first few league matches then he may be forgotten about.

When we sold Kenny miller to Rangers we used the money very well and he was quickly forgotten.

Sadly we have since sold better players and replaced them with utter gash! I hope this won't happen again.

[Mibbes Aye]

True, but he might prefer it to a year in the stands.

We've been here before. There's a bigger picture than Scott Allan.

We stick a player on gardening leave for a year because a club he's always wanted to play for, bid for him, when he had a year left on his contract?

Really?

I mean, really?

There's no good option here and I wouldn't want to be playing him, but I'd be playing him before parking him.

It's not as if we could even insist he turns up for games in the stand. What if he didn't? Even if it's a contractual obligement are we really going to spend time and money embarrassing ourselves going to the Court of Session to enforce it? We would look ridiculous.

More to the point, all clubs operate on understandings with players about contracts, most especially when it's players who could progress. Sometimes that breaks down but it's generally part of the deal. It's a deal that's heavily stacked towards players since Bosman. If we are to start running down attractive players' contracts in the reserves I would suggest it may ever so slightly put players off joining us in future.

No rights or wrongs, just the reality. If you knew the general terms your profession or trade was employed under, would you go to an employer who had been seen to mistreat a colleague? Like it or lump it, that's what we would be doing, or at least that's the perception.

Of course we might attract Winston Bogarde :cool2:

[silverhibee]

He'll not leave to go anywhere else IMO.

Well he stay's with Hibs then and plays his wee heart out for us.

If not, he gets the Galbraith treatment.

[bingo70]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.

[GreenArmy1875]

Rangers with feeble bid screams 1. They have no money and pretending they do to keep their fans in onside, very much like dundee United did in January. 2 unsettle hibs before the season and drum up interest in Scott Allan from other clubs.

If SA leaves to Rangers, Stubbs imo will follow him out the door.

[silverhibee]

They tried to sign him before he came to us so that backs up my thinking all along.

He will go to them (via pre-contract) next season.

Let's hope he has another year in the Championship with them :aok:

No they didn't.

[Bayern Bru]

what time do the online versions appear :hyper

Any time from about midnight onwards.

Or, from about 10pm onwards on Twitter if you want a swatch at the back pages...and I get a feeling they might be worth a glance.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.

Great quote .....

[Bostonhibby]

2009 guests :shocked: wonder how many are fans of the poppy thieves

Or the now defunct Glasgow rangers?

[grunt]

Spiers in the Herald

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13495629.Spiers_on_Sport__Scott_Allan_is_a_sidesho w_in_the_greater_good_of_Rangers/

[Hibtastic]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.

That's similar to what i have heard as Stubbs's stance! He WILL NOT be going to Rangers! The club are not daft!

[500miles]

Scott Brown handed in a transfer request and was our best player for the rest of the season.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.


Any time from about midnight onwards.

Or, from about 10pm onwards on Twitter if you want a swatch at the back pages...and I get a feeling they might be worth a glance.



the first part in bold would be a pleasant/acceptable headline :greengrin anywhere but govan

[Baldy Foghorn]

That's similar to what i have heard as Stubbs's stance! He WILL NOT be going to Rangers! The club are not daft!

My thoughts too on the matter

[H18 SFR]

Rangers with feeble bid screams 1. They have no money and pretending they do to keep their fans in onside, very much like dundee United did in January. 2 unsettle hibs before the season and drum up interest in Scott Allan from other clubs.

If SA leaves to Rangers, Stubbs imo will follow him out the door.

Posted this earlier, I genuinely believe this and as such believe he won't be sold.

[Hermit Crab]

Spiers in the Herald

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13495629.Spiers_on_Sport__Scott_Allan_is_a_sidesho w_in_the_greater_good_of_Rangers/


Good article.

[Pete]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

That's what I want to hear from my club.

Are you listening Sevco?

[Mr White]

Good article.

:agree: I was expecting a load of slavered pish but that was a decent read. He's still a prick though :greengrin

[Andy74]

Previously, whilst it was still soul destroying to see the likes of Kevin Thomson, Ian Murray and Steven Whittaker move to the old Rangers, we would always have to accept that they were playing at a far higher level than we were at and they could offer the player European football, silverware and a top dollar wage.

Now though, Sevco are no better than we are. They are playing in the second tier of Scottish football and not competing for major silverware or playing in Europe. If anything, if Scott Allan does end up there, it will be even more depressing than any of the other previous times.

Yep. We've more at stake now too. We just can't become a championship level team for the foreseeable future.

[jacomo]

Scott Brown handed in a transfer request and was our best player for the rest of the season.

:agree:

I think Fletcher did ok too after having his head turned by Celtc.

We have been here before. We have refused to deal with the bigot bros and done well.

SA is a young lad and is clearly being tapped up. I have some sympathy for him. But I do expect him to see out his contract with us. He said he would and we gave him the No 10 shirt. Time for him to deliver.

[emerald green]

Spiers in the Herald

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13495629.Spiers_on_Sport__Scott_Allan_is_a_sidesho w_in_the_greater_good_of_Rangers/

Good article. I like the bit below in particular. I hope he's right.

"Can you imagine the disgust felt among the Hibs support were this to ever happen? It would severely dent the confidence and trust which have been impressively accrued by Leeann Dempster, the Hibs CEO.


If I were a Hibs fan today I’d trust this club executive. Dempster has shown a sure hand in her fraught Easter Road journey so far, and will deal with Rangers deftly.
(http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13495629.Spiers_on_Sport__Scott_Allan_is_a_sidesho w_in_the_greater_good_of_Rangers/#) All that being said, yes of course Scott Allan is for sale – for a fairly ludicrous amount of money".

[Jim44]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.


That's similar to what i have heard as Stubbs's stance! He WILL NOT be going to Rangers! The club are not daft!

Music to my ears if true. However, if the club does have a brain short circuit and gives in to Sevco and media pressure, it would be a real kick in the teeth for Stubbs and we could see ourselves without a top player and a manager.

[truehibernian]

Scott Brown handed in a transfer request and was our best player for the rest of the season.

Scott Brown would demand to win a game of tiddlywinks let alone football - that is his nature, a right winner. I agree he was superb - indeed a wee call from Scott B to Scott A to tell him what happened to him and Thommo.......and where they both are now......wouldn't go amiss :agree:

Brown will play into his mid 30's at top level - and funny, with Collins at Celtic now, how the world of football turns back on itself - I would hope with hindsight Scott Brown thanks Collins for his stubbornness (and realising how talented a boy he was).

Good post mate and very well timed as a reminder too :aok:

[GreenArmyyy!]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.

Where is that quote from?

[coco22]

Rangers with feeble bid screams 1. They have no money and pretending they do to keep their fans in onside, very much like dundee United did in January. 2 unsettle hibs before the season and drum up interest in Scott Allan from other clubs.

If SA leaves to Rangers, Stubbs imo will follow him out the door.

Agree. Would much rather see SA go to anyone non sevco than lose AS. Do clubs need proof of funds before an offer can be made? Huns def trying to upset the state of play with the timing of bids, knowing hibs won't accept - looks good to the drooling, weej believers.

[bingo70]

Where is that quote from?

Saw it on Twitter.

It was shortly after the sun journos tweet about Stubbs having strong words to say in tomorrow's paper so I assumed that's where the quote came from, the fact nobody else has picked up on it though suggests it might just be what the tweeter wants Stubbs to say.

[Tricla]

Alan Stubbs tells press "I can't guarantee Scott will be a Hibs player when the window closes - But he certainly won't be a Rangers one"

Don't know how genuine that is but if it's true I'm delighted with it and I may be due a few folk an apology.

Where was this mentioned?

[Tricla]

Where was this mentioned?

Seen the later posts. Twitter.

[scoopyboy]

Sadly we have since sold better players and replaced them with utter gash! I hope this won't happen again.

I know, just trying to convince myself and others its not the end of the world.

[Eyrie]

I like that we're making it clear that our best player will not be sold at a knock-down price on the never-never to our closest rivals for promotion.

There are three outcomes

1 - Allan stays here, plays well, and then signs a pre-contract for Sevco Huns
2 - Allan stays here, throws a temper tantrum and sits in the stand all season.
3 - Another club comes in and offers us sensible money for Allan.

I'm leaning towards #3 at the moment.

[Del Boy]

If, for example, Dundee Utd come back with a reasonable offer and we accept there is no guarantee SA will agree to go.

[Deansy]

IF he has asked for a move then I'd hope to see Hibs/LD perhaps make a statement along the lines of -

'Unfortunately, Scott Allan has decided his future lies elsewhere and we wish him all the best for his future. However, we now have to decide on what is best for this club and it's fans, so with that in mind, for reasons we're certain that Scott will understand, the player is now on the T/F list and we invite interest/bids with the obvious exception of rival-teams in our league.'

[Bayern Bru]

I like that we're making it clear that our best player will not be sold at a knock-down price on the never-never to our closest rivals for promotion.

There are three outcomes

1 - Allan stays here, plays well, and then signs a pre-contract for Sevco Huns
2 - Allan stays here, throws a temper tantrum and sits in the stand all season.
3 - Another club comes in and offers us sensible money for Allan.

I'm leaning towards #3 at the moment.

4 - Allan stays here, plays well, we piss the league, get promoted, win the cup - and he stays for the European adventure. :agree:

[RedHibby]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Bolton are interested in him. I'm sure they would offer more than Sevco.

[Eyrie]

If, for example, Dundee Utd come back with a reasonable offer and we accept there is no guarantee SA will agree to go.

In which case Allan can choose from #1 and #2, because going to Sevco Huns has been ruled out.

Of course, if they offer us £2m payable immediately, then I reserve the right to change my mind. But there is more chance of Halle Berry turning up on my doorstep tonight. Won't happen - she's not due here until Saturday.

[Cabbage East]

IF he has asked for a move then I'd hope to see Hibs/LD perhaps make a statement along the lines of -

'Unfortunately, Scott Allan has decided his future lies elsewhere and we wish him all the best for his future. However, we now have to decide on what is best for this club and it's fans, so with that in mind, for reasons we're certain that Scott will understand, the player is now on the T/F list and we invite interest/bids with the obvious exception of rival-teams in our league.'

Riiiiight.

[Eyrie]

4 - Allan stays here, plays well, we piss the league, get promoted, win the cup - and he stays for the European adventure. :agree:

But does he have enough ambition to do that? Or will the lure of playing in the second tier next season for the team that replaced his boyhood heroes prove too much?

[Casey1875]

'Hibs fans have been downright abused over the past eight years' - at last - RECOGNITION !!

By a hearts fan as well, you should listen to the terrace football podcast that he is involved in, it's great.

[Hiber-nation]

Don't play him on Saturday but get him back in the team for the Montrose game and keep playing him. Stubbs will know what frame of mind he's in for the league game against the huns. Hopefully his head will be straight by then and he'll play as normal.

The fun will start again in January but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

If, for example, Dundee Utd come back with a reasonable offer and we accept there is no guarantee SA will agree to go.
I think if the board will say to Allan that if he really wants to leave he can go but they won't be dealing with rangers. End of

Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk

[Lago]

FFS we are talking about a few hundred grand here, not £49m smackers.
Ignore the money, the situation is effectively the same. It's called player power and SA holds all the aces.

[Barney McGrew]

Hibs should slap in a £100k bid for Lee Wallace, to be paid over umpteen instalments over a number of years.

Obviously we'd expect The Rangers to accept it - after all, they wouldn't want to stand in the way of someone joining their boyhood heroes :cb

[SquashedFrogg]

Sadly we have since sold better players and replaced them with utter gash! I hope this won't happen again.

It's funny. I met Kenny in the Maybury casino about 3 weeks after he signed for them and (drunkenly) asked why he left us. He said " They offered me 5 grand a week and and I couldn't say no".

As disappointed as I was (and drunk) I couldn't really argue.

[snooky]

In which case Allan can choose from #1 and #2, because going to Sevco Huns has been ruled out.

Of course, if they offer us £2m payable immediately, then I reserve the right to change my mind. But there is more chance of Halle Berry turning up on my doorstep tonight. Won't happen - she's not due here until Saturday.

Nae chance the night, pal. She's daein' ma ironin'.

[Barney McGrew]

Ignore the money, the situation is effectively the same. It's called player power and SA holds all the aces.

Except he's under contract.

It's called employment law, and SA doesn't hold any aces in that game :wink:

[Lucius Apuleius]

Never been a great one for "what's and ifs" so keeping the powder dry until this pans out. At the minute I believe Stubbs and Dempster will not let him go to the huns.

[Waxy]

I think if the board will say to Allan that if he really wants to leave he can go but they won't be dealing with rangers. End of

Sent from my XT1068 using TapatalkI suspect this is what Rangers goal is in putting bids in. They know we wont sell to them but want us to sell to A N Other so as to weaken us.

[snooky]

Except he's under contract.

It's called employment law, and SA doesn't hold any aces in that game :wink:

Could develop into a game of playing silly buggars then? :dunno:

[silverhibee]

Ignore the money, the situation is effectively the same. It's called player power and SA holds all the aces.

SA holds nothing, Hibs hold the aces here.

And that means he see's his contract out at Hibs or he moves to any other club bar the huns.

[Barney McGrew]

Could develop into a game of playing silly buggars then? :dunno:

Very likely :agree:

Whatever happens, I can't see him starting for Hibs on Saturday now. Which is what The Rangers will have hoped for at the very least with the timing of the offer.

[Heisenberg]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

[DH1875]

Scott Brown handed in a transfer request and was our best player for the rest of the season.

Imagine this was the premier league and that the rangers were in it. They go to celtic and offer 500k for Brown. What does everyone think would happen? Should/would celtic just bend over and take it and let Brown leave to their rivals?
Same goes with Rooney. What would happen if Chelsea went to Utd and offered a million for him? Duck der hun and duck him if he has put in a transfer request.

[bingo70]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

A good read.

[bill the hibby]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

Think people should read this before going all guns blazing...STV, the most biased broadcasting company that exists

[truehibernian]

Ignore the money, the situation is effectively the same. It's called player power and SA holds all the aces.

Mmmmm not strictly true in a legal sense - Hibs hold the aces in the sense he is a contracted employee and will have terms and conditions. If (for example) Scott Allan 'spat the dummy' and told Hibs he wasn't playing for them again then Hibs would potentially have a breach of contract situation - that could spin out in court/employment tribunal and could see the player actually having to fork out a sizeable sum if proven......Hibs could then cite loss of potential earnings through promotion, cup wins, transfer sale, etc etc.......Hibs hold ALL the cards here regardless.......what the club may end up with is a player who sulks, doesn't put 100% effort in and who sees out his contract, probably signing a pre-contract with The Rangers in January to pee Hibs off (if that were the scenario) and who unsettles the squad......however he seems well liked and footballers aren't the sharpest tools in the box......they wouldn't really give a sook 'cos it's not them :agree:

Oh and we are also in the unique position, compared to The Rangers, where our owner actually HAS put his money where his mouth is, doesn't need to be interviewed on Sky Sports to prove his intentions or wealth, and who HAS millions in his own reserves. :aok: probably has better wines in his cellar tae :na na:

[Lee Marvin]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

Top class. Stubbs knows the score

[Carheenlea]

“Scott is fundamental to what we want to achieve. You don’t sell your best players. No matter who you are, you don’t sell your best players, especially to your closest rivals.” - Alan Stubbs

[Brightside]

Top class. Stubbs knows the score

More to come from Stubbs. He is not a happy man. STV should expect very little in the way of interviews with Hibs forthwith.

[Jim44]

Very likely :agree:

Whatever happens, I can't see him starting for Hibs on Saturday now. Which is what The Rangers will have hoped for at the very least with the timing of the offer.

I want us to do well against them on Saturday but if the extent of the damage of this fiasco is that SA misses the match, I couldn't give a toss. It will at least be some indication of the quality of both teams without the SA factor.

[Big L]

I suspect this is what Rangers goal is in putting bids in. They know we wont sell to them but want us to sell to A N Other so as to weaken us.

The objective from the very beginning, something should be done about them bidding for players when they have no dosh!

[Onceinawhile]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

Does it seem odd to anyone else that only stv have this insider knowledge? As an aside, stv are the only news source I can think of fronted by an ex kickback member.

What a funny coincidence.

[God Petrie]

50k increase shows they aren't serious. Goodbye huns.

[Alfred E Newman]

Never been a great one for "what's and ifs" so keeping the powder dry until this pans out. At the minute I believe Stubbs and Dempster will not let him go to the huns.

Dempster will be well aware of the catastrophic backlash if Alan is sold to Rangers at any price.

[AlbertK86]

I like that we're making it clear that our best player will not be sold at a knock-down price on the never-never to our closest rivals for promotion. There are three outcomes 1 - Allan stays here, plays well, and then signs a pre-contract for Sevco Huns 2 - Allan stays here, throws a temper tantrum and sits in the stand all season. 3 - Another club comes in and offers us sensible money for Allan. I'm leaning towards #3 at the moment.

I still think there is a

4 - Alłan is told to stay, plays really well and signs a pre contract for EPL or English Championship club

He will make far more in the championship in England than playing for Sevconians .... Notts forest pay Lansbury 20k a week

[dmc1875]

rangers know there isn't really a realistic chance we would sell
allan to them. However they are doing a good job of derailing us, attempting to turn his head and get a lot of pressure and scrutiny on the start of the season.

I hope it backfires. I get the feeling all they have done is angered everyone at ER and I hope we do them at the weekend and hit the ground running. Don't let their marketing and PR ploys affect us.

[Jonnyboy]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that only stv have this insider knowledge? As an aside, stv are the only news source I can think of fronted by an ex kickback member.

What a funny coincidence.

This is the point I was trying to make earlier. STV say what they said and suddenly it's the gospel!

[Vault Boy]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

And... Breathe. Perfect stance from the club. Hopefully they are right about the falsehood of the claim that Scott is trying to force a move.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that only stv have this insider knowledge? As an aside, stv are the only news source I can think of fronted by an ex kickback member.

What a funny coincidence.

Who is stv source?

[Lago]

Except he's under contract.

It's called employment law, and SA doesn't hold any aces in that game :wink:
So was Stirling at Liverpool.

[Thecat23]

It's funny. I met Kenny in the Maybury casino about 3 weeks after he signed for them and (drunkenly) asked why he left us. He said " They offered me 5 grand a week and and I couldn't say no".

As disappointed as I was (and drunk) I couldn't really argue.

Haha, 5 grand and the rest mate! Don't let him kid you. Prob be there again sat as we are out after the game!

[snooky]

And... Breathe. Perfect stance from the club. Hopefully they are right about the falsehood of the claim that Scott is trying to force a move.

STV making a big issue of this Rangers bid - oh the irony. :wink:

[JimBHibees]

If he plays for us on Saturday are we booing him?

Then Rangers will definitely have won.

[truehibernian]

So was Stirling at Liverpool.

Before you cite economies of scale as an argument, the EPL are dealing in quite staggering levels of finance - tens of millions - and Sterling was not even their best player in my opinion - they've scored big time.

Scottish football is way down the pecking order however we can and still do value players based on similar rated players and recent transfers - Chick Young was quite right tonight to bang on about Kenny McLean - that transfer, when you base it against Coll Donaldson, Ryan Gauld, Lewis McLeod, Jay Fulton, Stephen Kingsley, Armstrong and GMS...........and The Rangers want to pay below all these fees (for players mentioned), staggered, over time ?

All the more galling for their fans when King said he would throw money at building a side :faf::faf:

I keep banging on, but Hibs should tell The Rangers that their fee, based on the above sales, is £1.5 million in a one off payment :cb The Rangers would 'walk away' as they say....................:wink:

[Thegreenside]

So was Stirling at Liverpool.

They also got a inflated price for the player

[truehibernian]

Haha, 5 grand and the rest mate! Don't let him kid you. Prob be there again sat as we are out after the game!

TC, obviously don't want you to share too much on a messageboard, but this for me is akin to when Kenny left us first time - he had a good season for a youngster, was a fans favourite, and he went to Rangers under Advocaat and he didn't get a chance........he had to leave to kick start his career.

Now I know The Rangers are in a very different football climate, but the same goes - I know his loyalty lies with The Rangers but I'd be intrigued to know his opinion on this.

BTW, tell him he changed the game last 20 he came on :agree: and tell him he's wasted coming for the ball oot wide all the time.......:greengrin.....he should have been on the end of his cutback from the right :wink:

[Thecat23]

TC, obviously don't want you to share too much on a messageboard, but this for me is akin to when Kenny left us first time - he had a good season for a youngster, was a fans favourite, and he went to Rangers under Advocaat and he didn't get a chance........he had to leave to kick start his career.

Now I know The Rangers are in a very different football climate, but the same goes - I know his loyalty lies with The Rangers but I'd be intrigued to know his opinion on this.

BTW, tell him he changed the game last 20 he came on :agree: and tell him he's wasted coming for the ball oot wide all the time.......:greengrin.....he should have been on the end of his cutback from the right :wink:

Will PM you first thing mate, phone is about to die on me 😩

[JimBHibees]

Call his bluff? The boy knows he good. We all know he's good. His agent, wife, postman will be telling him he's good.

Why would you not want to massively increase your wage if everyone was telling you how good you were? (That's from his perspective)

He left Dundee Utd after 3 mins of game time, so why expect he would stay with us? Let's get real here. He's been leaving since he joined us.

And for anyone saying "but he said on our TV that he likes it here".... Every player who has ever left a team has said that.

We sell but to anyone but the huns for maximum price.

I'm 1,000,000 convinced our club have known this and will have made contingency plans. Relax people. Trust our club.

The bluff is refuse to sell to Rangers and see how he is after the window shuts.

[Lago]

They also got a inflated price for the player
Indeed they did, but equally the player effectively got his way following pulling a 3 day sickie and a refusal to travel on a pre season tour. Player power.

[poolman]

Can't we ask City Cabs the latest developments 😆

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486


and the communication/bids(in installments) came via e-mail, impossible to get a red face via e-mail i guess....what a shameless shower of crooks and deadbeats at that vile institution

[3pm]

Can't we ask City Cabs the latest developments 

Bad news - you get 20% off with them. :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that only stv have this insider knowledge? As an aside, stv are the only news source I can think of fronted by an ex kickback member.

What a funny coincidence.


wee airdrie jambo ?

[southern hibby]

In which case Allan can choose from #1 and #2, because going to Sevco Huns has been ruled out.

Of course, if they offer us £2m payable immediately, then I reserve the right to change my mind. But there is more chance of Halle Berry turning up on my doorstep tonight. Won't happen - she's not due here until Saturday.

Ding dong, that'll be yer door bell mate. Bagsy seconds lol

GGTTH

[Jonnyboy]

https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/624171233991598080/photo/1

[Galahibby]

So was Stirling at Liverpool.

And if Sevco offer us £49m for Scott we should maybe consider it :wink:

[Billychaotic182]

https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/624171233991598080/photo/1

Love this

[truehibernian]

https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/624171233991598080/photo/1

**** that JB, makes Tavernier look like Daniel Alves FFS :greengrin

Could they not have shown the photo when he is dry humping Robbo after the 3rd :aok::greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

And if Sevco offer us £49m for Scott we should maybe consider it :wink:

Knowing them, they would be looking to pay that up over the course of 150 years.

[Heisenberg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

Aaah the Sun...could have predicted that headline weeks ago. I hope Hibs release statement after statement on this and tell the media to absolutely ram it with their west coast bias. It's disgraceful.

[tamig]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

That's reassuring to read. Good stuff.

[lord bunberry]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.
**** sake. He must know himself that we can't sell to them.

[tamig]

So was Stirling at Liverpool.

Well Stirling used to play at Annfield.

[truehibernian]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf: Viola adopting the 'Willie McKay' tactic......no more, no less...........keep trying John :aok::cb

[Jim44]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

Would that be the same request as STV said he put in today?

[Andy74]

Aaah the Sun...could have predicted that headline weeks ago. I hope Hibs release statement after statement on this and tell the media to absolutely ram it with their west coast bias. It's disgraceful.

If Scott Allan disagrees he should say so. Hibs don't deserve those sorts of headlines about him. Sickening even for football in Scotland. This is sort of new depths after just a year here and one that has hugely benefitted the player at that.

[Libby Hibby]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

Disgraceful Headline and written by Kenny Millar, a supposed Hibby...so now the spin is that 'it's all Hibs fault'...I really hope SA play for us in Saturday and absolutely destroys them

[Jonnyboy]

**** that JB, makes Tavernier look like Daniel Alves FFS :greengrin

Could they not have shown the photo when he is dry humping Robbo after the 3rd :aok::greengrin

:greengrin

[S4uzee]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

What are the strong words that Stubbs was supposed to have said according to Kenny Millar?

[snooky]

Then Rangers will definitely have won.

:agree:

[truehibernian]

Disgraceful Headline and written by Kenny Millar, a supposed Hibby...so now the spin is that 'it's all Hibs fault'...I really hope SA play for us in Saturday and absolutely destroys them

Very easy sorted - large picture of Stubbs in all media outlets with the headline 'YOU'RE GOING NOWHERE - YOU'RE A HIBS PLAYER' :aok:

[Hibby D]

Then Rangers will definitely have won.



He wasn't serious :greengrin

[Greencore]

I'm trying to see this whole situation from a neutral point of view. He is a Rangers fan and of any of us were in the same position as him I'm sure we would want to move to hibs.

But SA if he wants to move has gone around this all the wrong way, he should have came out and said he wanted to leave, not taking photos in the new top, making videos stating he is going no where (at least I think he did mention this)

I think the hibs fans have felt led on not that he will sign an extension but to see out his contract. Not professional and just plain dickish.

[Salisbury Hibby]

The Rangers and The Scottish Sun are absolutely terrified we will do a Hearts and run away with the league.

Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.


oh here we ******* go, his wife might have to start working to help put food on the table for his newborn blah blah blah, he's always wanted to play for the bigoted filth blah blah blah, i'm seriously saddened by scott allan as a human being allowing these headlines, but of course that's what his agent and the that vile club want...to turn hibs fans against him, next headlines will be " hibs fans making my life unbearable...please let me go"...boo ****** hoo

[Hermit Crab]

Disgraceful Headline and written by Kenny Millar, a supposed Hibby...so now the spin is that 'it's all Hibs fault'...I really hope SA play for us in Saturday and absolutely destroys them

Laughable headline. KM will have been forced to write that headline as it sympathises with the Rangers and it sells papers......

[Spike Mandela]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKoZji3WcAA-6DC.jpg

Sun saying Allan to put in a transfer request tomorrow.

Q. Let me go.

A. NO.

[truehibernian]

The Rangers and The Scottish Sun are absolutely terrified we will do a Hearts and run away with the league.

Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk

Boys fae Petrofac will be laughing apples mind :greengrin never ever will they get the coverage they'll get at the weekend :greengrin

[kaimendhibs]

Can't read on my phone. Are there any quotes from SA

[JJP]

Sick of this already. We won't sell to Rangers unless they pay silly money that they can't afford anyway. I do have sympathy for Scott Allan as well. I know if I was a Kilmarnock player and Hibs came in for me I would be desperate to go to Hibs. But we can't sell one of our best players to Rangers this season. If he isn't happy with that then hopefully Celtic or a team from England come in with a good offer so he doesn't unsettle the team. I'm hoping Scott is a good pro though and understands the club's position and continues to do a good job for us, if he stays here. At least we have a player that is wanted elsewhere though, it's been awhile since we've been in this sort of situation. I don't envy the boards position on this one.

[jacomo]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/scott-allan-latest-no-request-to-leave-hibs-1-3839486

Great stuff Stubbsy.

The Rangers can GTF.

[truehibernian]

Sick of this already. We won't sell to Rangers unless they pay silly money that they can't afford anyway. I do have sympathy for Scott Allan as well. I know if I was a Kilmarnock player and Hibs came in for me I would be desperate to go to Hibs. But we can't sell one of our best players to Rangers this season. If he isn't happy with that then hopefully Celtic or a team from England come in with a good offer so he doesn't unsettle the team. I'm hoping Scott is a good pro though and understands the club's position and continues to do a good job for us, if he stays here. At least we have a player that is wanted elsewhere though, it's been awhile since we've been in this sort of situation. I don't envy the boards position on this one.

Sick of it ? Not me, I'm loving it - this is the signing The Rangers have craved since May and we hold the aces - let the game at the weekend unfold, press froth away into their underpants, longer it goes, more The Rangers and Scott's agent look daft - our first 4 games should be wins regardless of him being in the side.

Keep it going until the end of the window Hibs :aok:

[magpie1892]

Laughable headline. KM will have been forced to write that headline as it sympathises with the Rangers and it sells papers......

Reporters don't write the headlines.

[jacomo]

Can't read on my phone. Are there any quotes from SA

Not on the back page.

Just reporting that he will hand in a transfer request.

Hack / Agent conning young player into a poor career decision because they want readers / a bit of money.

[Wheat Hound]

"I can categorically say that Scott Allan will not be joining Rangers" - Alan Stubbs in Fridays Daily Express. A direct and conclusive end to this nonsense imho.

[truehibernian]

Reporters don't write the headlines.

...they don't do investigative journalism either......opinionists with the occasional guess :agree:

Still, a Scott Allan story takes the heat off King admitting The Rangers fans ain't spending the way he'd like :aok::wink:

[Brightside]

The sun headline is by Subs. Kenny only reports on the meeting with Stubbs.

[Ozyhibby]

"I can categorically say that Scott Allan will not be joining Rangers" - Alan Stubbs in Fridays Daily Express. A direct and conclusive end to this nonsense imho.

If like to hear him say that on camera before I relax.

[magpie1892]

...they don't do investigative journalism either......opinionists with the occasional guess :agree:

Still, a Scott Allan story takes the heat off King admitting The Rangers fans ain't spending the way he'd like :aok::wink:

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly - and I'm a journalist - that the Scottish sports press pack are a pretty craven bunch but the sad fact is that the bigot brothers sell papers. You'd be surprised at how many sports reporters and editors with the Scottish press ****ing hate the hun and the other lot, but we all have our orders...

The King thing will eventually come out in the wash. Sensible huns (there are a few) know only too well that King is skint, their club is skint, and there's lots more fun to come.

[hfc rd]

As I mentioned earlier, I had tweeted Sky Sports to see if Scott Allan had indeed handed in a transfer request as he wanted to join the rangers.
Reply was 'We understand that two bids were made from Rangers and they have instantly been rejected by Hibs and no transfer request was handed in by Scott Allan'. 'Hibs have made it perfectly clear that they will not be selling to a direct rival and are happy to let Scott Allan run his contract down which expires at the end of the season and leave for nothing'.

Will take their word over stv and the sun who I'm sure are really desperate for Allan to leave and join der huns.

[magpie1892]

The sun headline is by Subs. Kenny only reports on the meeting with Stubbs.

The back page splash head is usually written by the sports editor or his deputy and will have been discussed at the editorial conference with the editor at some point this afternoon/early evening, loooooooong after KM has filed his story.

[truehibernian]

As I mentioned earlier, I had tweeted Sky Sports to see if Scott Allan had indeed handed in a transfer request as he wanted to join the rangers.
Reply was 'We understand that two bids were made from Rangers and they have instantly been rejected by Hibs and no transfer request was handed in by Scott Allan'. 'Hibs have made it perfectly clear that they will not be selling to a direct rival and are happy to let Scott Allan run his contract down which expires at the end of the season and leave for nothing'.

Will take their word over stv and the sun who I'm sure are really desperate for Allan to leave and join der huns.

Indeed, this could end up really galvanising the support and the team the way it's panning out - SA gets dropped and we win loads of games without him.........I'd push the boat out now and try and get in a couple of midfielders and make him earn his place again :aok:

[GreenCastle]

As I mentioned earlier, I had tweeted Sky Sports to see if Scott Allan had indeed handed in a transfer request as he wanted to join the rangers.
Reply was 'We understand that two bids were made from Rangers and they have instantly been rejected by Hibs and no transfer request was handed in by Scott Allan'. 'Hibs have made it perfectly clear that they will not be selling to a direct rival and are happy to let Scott Allan run his contract down which expires at the end of the season and leave for nothing'.

Will take their word over stv and the sun who I'm sure are really desperate for Allan to leave and join der huns.

That's a lot of info for a tweet of 140 characters ;)

[stokesmessiah]

Hibs TV just posted a Stubbs interview.

He is going nowhere.

[stokesmessiah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY30wlEwXoc

[Ozyhibby]

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/alan-stubbs-insists-scott-allan-won-t-join-rangers-1-3839722

Most clear article yet

[hfc rd]

That's a lot of info for a tweet of 140 characters ;)


My apologies. May not have worded it properly. It was a direct public message that I sent. Not an exact tweet.

[GreenCastle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY30wlEwXoc

Sounds very much like he's staying !!

Let's wait for the teams to be announced Saturday !

[IWasThere2016]

I said apparently he's signing yeah, One has and Scott stalled what's your point??

Do folk realise things can change in a matter of hours? Instead of saying you were right about Gray you decide to pick this part!!

Sorry Cat .. SA was never remotely close to signing a new deal with Hibs.

[IWasThere2016]

SA wants to go to Rangers. No doubt about it .. just as Ciftci was determined to go to Cellic and not Wigan.

And therein lies a problem for Hibs - there doesn't appear to be another party involved to up any fee, and secondly SA will simply refuse to go anyway.

SA is a Rangers fan, is settled in the West and has a family to think about. The wage on offer from Rangers will be c. £6k basic and £2k per performance.

SA will know this as Viola will have discussed this with Rangers IMHO. I reckon this will be 5x - 6x what SA earns at present.

With 5 weeks of the window to go, I stand by comments I have made for some time that he will sign for Rangers..

[Hibernia&Alba]

SA wants to go to Rangers. No doubt about it .. just as Ciftci was determined to go to Cellic and not Wigan.

And therein lies a problem for Hibs - there doesn't appear to be another party involved to up any fee, and secondly SA will simply refuse to go anyway.

SA is a Rangers fan, is settled in the West and has a family to think about. The wage on offer from Rangers will be c. £6k basic and £2k per performance.

SA will know this as Viola will have discussed this with Rangers IMHO. I reckon this will be 5x - 6x what SA earns at present.

With 5 weeks of the window to go, I stand by comments I have made for some time that he will sign for Rangers..

You may well be right, TQM, but surely we only allow him to join Sevco if the bid is in our interests? If it isn't, he sees out his contract, helps the promotion effort then can do as he likes. Simples.

[Pete]

SA wants to go to Rangers. No doubt about it .. just as Ciftci was determined to go to Cellic and not Wigan.

And therein lies a problem for Hibs - there doesn't appear to be another party involved to up any fee, and secondly SA will simply refuse to go anyway.

SA is a Rangers fan, is settled in the West and has a family to think about. The wage on offer from Rangers will be c. £6k basic and £2k per performance.

SA will know this as Viola will have discussed this with Rangers IMHO. I reckon this will be 5x - 6x what SA earns at present.

With 5 weeks of the window to go, I stand by comments I have made for some time that he will sign for Rangers..

I don't doubt any of that but there's one snag: He isn't for sale.

I predict that sevco will go away after a few failed bids and Allan will play for us again. January is when it will get interesting again.

[IWasThere2016]

You may well be right, TQM, but surely we only allow him to join Sevco if the bid is in our interests? If it isn't, he sees out his contract, helps the promotion effort then can do as he likes. Simples.

Let say we end up with £500k for SA .. fee, add-ons etc. He cost Hibs £0. What's our average ST price .. £300+? So £500k is the equivalent of 1,500 STs

Why interpret it this way - well I think that's how RP thinks. And it is his call IMHO. Unless, Hibs are the only small private business I can think of where the owner(s) don't decide when/if to sell assets and it is left to employees (LD and AS).

I sincerely hope I have this wrong. I have watched SA for nearly 10 years and he is a special player IMHO. We won't replace him - with similar never mind better.

Bedtime for this old cynic now

[IWasThere2016]

I don't doubt any of that but there's one snag: He isn't for sale.

I predict that sevco will go away after a few failed bids and Allan will play for us again. January is when it will get interesting again.

How many times has a club - many much bigger than Hibs - said such a thing .. only for the player to be sold.

What will be interesting is whether SA plays on Saturday, and whether he fully applies himself if so...

And is defo n'nite from me now.

[21.05.2016]

rangers know there isn't really a realistic chance we would sell
allan to them. However they are doing a good job of derailing us, attempting to turn his head and get a lot of pressure and scrutiny on the start of the season.

I hope it backfires. I get the feeling all they have done is angered everyone at ER and I hope we do them at the weekend and hit the ground running. Don't let their marketing and PR ploys affect us.

My thoughts exactly, they are playing games here. Trying to unsettle the club, our fans and our best player in the lead up to our game with them and towards the start of the season.

[truehibernian]

SA wants to go to Rangers. No doubt about it .. just as Ciftci was determined to go to Cellic and not Wigan.

And therein lies a problem for Hibs - there doesn't appear to be another party involved to up any fee, and secondly SA will simply refuse to go anyway.

SA is a Rangers fan, is settled in the West and has a family to think about. The wage on offer from Rangers will be c. £6k basic and £2k per performance.

SA will know this as Viola will have discussed this with Rangers IMHO. I reckon this will be 5x - 6x what SA earns at present.

With 5 weeks of the window to go, I stand by comments I have made for some time that he will sign for Rangers..

First point is indeed true - in that case if Hibs retain their stance he will have to suck it up and train with the boys knowing he's let his mates down and not got what he's wanted - yes, he'll get his move to The Rangers next season but he will not go far in the game - his contract with The Rangers will be his last big earner, no doubt about. His claim to fame will be photos of him up on the Louden Bar. He is nowhere near the Scott Brown's of this world, but he could be with patience and the right guidance.

His mate Halliday - pawn in the game really as he ain't that great a player - he is another who won't earn anywhere near like he does now at The Rangers - once this season is out the way, watch the loan cycle begin for most of them, including Allan :aok: The Rangers will get sucked in to the foreign market to match Celtic.

Secondly, this has all come about because of the agent - absolutely no doubt about it - and probably the minute Warburton and especially Weir walked in the door :agree:

Keep saying it but privately, and if The Rangers want to go public fair enough, Hibs should set the price at a million and sell - that cash gets spent on 3 or 4 players, Allan moves on, Hibs have a right good reason to galvanise and beat them. And I think there are great wee players out there who can easily fill Allan's boots, seriously I do. We are basing our judgement of him based on showings v Championship sides - he had absolutely no impact in the play off games - nada, nothing, 13 or so corners and set pieces at Ibrox........zero end product :agree: and games at any level v The Rangers should take care of themselves and certainly don't revolve around one player (over four games or more)

Scott Allan is not the best player I have seen at Hibs and my knickers are not in a twist if he goes - assuming Stubbsy has players lined up which I think he does.

To put some complexion on things - a Hibs team with Scott Allan didn't beat Falkirk, Alloa, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers, Dumbarton.....the same teams Hearts, through 'team effort', battered :agree:

Sell him for a million - makes me even more committed to Hibs and beating them to the title when he goes :aok:

[KWJ]

Be highly surprised if we get over 500k for him let alone a million. Rangers won't bid that much and I don't see anyone else doing so either.

[truehibernian]

Be highly surprised if we get over 500k for him let alone a million. Rangers won't bid that much and I don't see anyone else doing so either.

Wouldn't be so sure - English pre-seasons just underway, domino effect of players coming and going, a certain other Glasgow club wanting to flex their muscles to show off.........plenty life in this transfer saga yet........buy some butterkist and some pepsi :cb

[KWJ]

If it were to go above 500k I reckon it'd have to be some late window desperation, just hopefully no fae the currant buns.

[col02]

I am surprised that nobody while discussing Scott Allan has commented on the fact that Fraser Fyvie is a similar but simpler type player. I love watching Allan play for Hibs but sometimes he is culpable of overplaying things. Having watched Fyvie last season he plays the killer pass and simple with the same consumate ease. In my lifetime Hibs have lost a lot of good players who have sometimes been replaced by similar type players. The thing that rankles is the fact it's Rangers, a team in direct opposition for promotion this coming season with us.

[Hibernia&Alba]

So, are we expecting a third bid today?

[Gettin' Auld]

No matter how all this pans out, Scott Allan won't be anywhere near Easter Rd on saturday and that's one certainty from all of this.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just heard on Radio Forth that the Sevco have made a second bid for Scott Allan and that he wants to go. Any feedback on this situation?

[Onceinawhile]

Just heard on Radio Forth that the Sevco have made a second bid for Scott Allan and that he wants to go. Any feedback on this situation?

They've been told to bolt and he's not leaving. See the merged thread...

[Greenworld]

You may well be right, TQM, but surely we only allow him to join Sevco if the bid is in our interests? If it isn't, he sees out his contract, helps the promotion effort then can do as he likes. Simples.
100% he can go eveveryone has there price but unless rangers come back with 500k plus paid upfront and there is a problem. He is going nowhere.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

They've been told to bolt and he's not leaving. See the merged thread...

Easy to miss to be fair .............................

[Hibernia&Alba]

No matter how all this pans out, Scott Allan won't be anywhere near Easter Rd on saturday and that's one certainty from all of this.

Which would be so convenient for sevco. The timing of this is just a further demonstration of the filth they are.

[Ronniekirk]

Just heard on Radio Forth that the Sevco have made a second bid for Scott Allan and that he wants to go. Any feedback on this situation?


My response is you have ignored the thread below ,you which tells you all you need to know That manky team have been put firmly in their place and told in no uncertain terms to get to **** .They can't even afford to put the money up front and don't realise they are making a laughing stock of themselves and are an affront to Scottish football ,they still think they are one of the key shakers and movers and don't seem able to come to terms they are still a championship side after four years in the wilderness.

[Hibs90]

The sun headline is by Subs. Kenny only reports on the meeting with Stubbs.

Blah blah blah does it matter.? Editor of said paper is supposed to be be A Hibs fan too and he lets ***** like that get printed on his back page? Headlines like that only add fuel to the fire, and make things worse. I wouldn't want my name attached to that disgrace of a headline.

:wink:

[Pete]

Just heard on Radio Forth that the Sevco have made a second bid for Scott Allan and that he wants to go. Any feedback on this situation?

He's off to Celtic.

We only sell to our own kind.

[KWJ]

From what Hibs have come out with, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Scotty starting on Saturday.

[TheFamous1875]

No matter how all this pans out, Scott Allan won't be anywhere near Easter Rd on saturday and that's one certainty from all of this.

How no? The only guarantee it of all of this should be him starting for us on Saturday and giving it his all, whether he's going there, or elsewhere, or staying or not.

[Gettin' Auld]

Which would be so convenient for sevco. The timing of this is just a further demonstration of the filth they are.
I completely agree mate. Timed to **** us up, whether they sign him or not.

The lowest of the low..........

[SouthMoroccoStu]

No matter how all this pans out, Scott Allan won't be anywhere near Easter Rd on saturday and that's one certainty from all of this.

How do you figure that out?

He'll be in the team to give a fully professional performance

Nothing better for Hibs to give a big F you to the rangers

[Gatecrasher]

They've been told to bolt and he's not leaving. See the merged thread...

That thread grew 41 pages in 2 days hardly easy to follow when your not on it all the time.

[BILLYHIBS]

Since 1968 and I have seen some good teams and a lot of poor ones.This situation is starting to remind me of Colin Stein,Craig Paterson, Kevin Thomson and Ian Murray.
My response is you have ignored the thread below ,you which tells you all you need to know That manky team have been put firmly in their place and told in no uncertain terms to get to **** .They can't even afford to put the money up front and don't realise they are making a laughing stock of themselves and are an affront to Scottish football ,they still think they are one of the key shakers and movers and don't seem able to come to terms they are still a championship side after four years in the wilderness.

[magpie1892]

From what Hibs have come out with, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Scotty starting on Saturday.

I fully expect him to start on Saturday also.

[Greenworld]

Just heard on Radio Forth that the Sevco have made a second bid for Scott Allan and that he wants to go. Any feedback on this situation?
Yes Sevco has no money and are likley to implode in the next 4 months.
I have it on good authority that they will enter admin before xmas.

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[Broken Gnome]

Since 1968 and I have seen some good teams and a lot of poor ones.This situation is starting to remind me of Colin Stein,Craig Paterson, Kevin Thomson and Ian Murray.

Couldn't even bring himself to name those that moved to Celtic rather than Rangers :greengrin

[offshorehibby]

First point is indeed true - in that case if Hibs retain their stance he will have to suck it up and train with the boys knowing he's let his mates down and not got what he's wanted - yes, he'll get his move to The Rangers next season but he will not go far in the game - his contract with The Rangers will be his last big earner, no doubt about. His claim to fame will be photos of him up on the Louden Bar. He is nowhere near the Scott Brown's of this world, but he could be with patience and the right guidance.

His mate Halliday - pawn in the game really as he ain't that great a player - he is another who won't earn anywhere near like he does now at The Rangers - once this season is out the way, watch the loan cycle begin for most of them, including Allan :aok: The Rangers will get sucked in to the foreign market to match Celtic.

Secondly, this has all come about because of the agent - absolutely no doubt about it - and probably the minute Warburton and especially Weir walked in the door :agree:

Keep saying it but privately, and if The Rangers want to go public fair enough, Hibs should set the price at a million and sell - that cash gets spent on 3 or 4 players, Allan moves on, Hibs have a right good reason to galvanise and beat them. And I think there are great wee players out there who can easily fill Allan's boots, seriously I do. We are basing our judgement of him based on showings v Championship sides - he had absolutely no impact in the play off games - nada, nothing, 13 or so corners and set pieces at Ibrox........zero end product :agree: and games at any level v The Rangers should take care of themselves and certainly don't revolve around one player (over four games or more)

Scott Allan is not the best player I have seen at Hibs and my knickers are not in a twist if he goes - assuming Stubbsy has players lined up which I think he does.

To put some complexion on things - a Hibs team with Scott Allan didn't beat Falkirk, Alloa, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers, Dumbarton.....the same teams Hearts, through 'team effort', battered :agree:

Sell him for a million - makes me even more committed to Hibs and beating them to the title when he goes :aok:

I've kept an eye on this thread all the way through but couldn't be bothered in a lot of the bickering.

This above is exactly where i am on the subject.

[flash]

If we are serious that he isn't going then he should play tomorrow.

[Jim44]

Yes Sevco has no money and are likley to implode in the next 4 months.
I have it on good authority that they will enter admin before xmas.

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Sevco? Is that the team whose supporters sometimes refer to themselves as the Billy Boys? Or was it a team that no longer exists whose name escapes me?

[Gettin' Auld]

How do you figure that out?

He'll be in the team to give a fully professional performance

Nothing better for Hibs to give a big F you to the rangers

How do you figure out that he'll be in the team on saturday to give a 'fully professional performance'?

I hope you're right, but i very much doubt it.

[Greenworld]

Sevco? Is that the team whose supporters sometimes refer to themselves as the Billy Boys? Or was it a team that no longer exists whose name escapes me?
That would be them...[emoji3]

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[Onceinawhile]

That thread grew 41 pages in 2 days hardly easy to follow when your not on it all the time.

Come on now. As if a 42 page thread on the very subject won't be covering something that happened at about 5 o clock yesterday. Said person could have at least scanned the thread.

[Jim44]

I've kept an eye on this thread all the way through but couldn't be bothered in a lot of the bickering.

This above is exactly where i am on the subject.

Where is Sevco going to get £1M ? Maybe they are keeping the price low, just in case Hibs take their eye off the ball and accept it. Their problem is keeping the bid low enough for that but high enough to appease their supporters.

[Onion]

If we are serious that he isn't going then he should play tomorrow.

If it's true has has "pleaded with Hibs" to let him go to the Huns for £175k then I very much doubt he'll be playing tomorrow. I really hope this is the usual crap that comes out of DR to appeal to the Hun Hoards, as SA must realise that Hibs are in no position to sell him to that lot for such a miserly fee.

The £175 - 225k that the Huns have reportedly offered is well short of SA's value to Hibs, but this is all the Huns can afford. The media know this and are basically trying to force Hibs hand to help them out. Utterly disgusting.

[Greenworld]

Hibs boss Alan Stubbs made a personal call to Rangers counterpart Mark Warburton and issued a definitive ‘no’ to all current and future bids for Easter Road playmaker Scott Allan.
Lifted from the daily mail

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[davidw]

He's off to Celtic.

We only sell to our own kind.

Don't embarrass us - and yourself - with that crap. We have nothing in common with them either. They are also vile.

[Waxy]

Classic old firm tactics. If not good enough, weaken the opposition. Since 1888. It has to come to an end.

[21.05.2016]

Which would be so convenient for sevco. The timing of this is just a further demonstration of the filth they are.

Exactly. Whether they end up with Allan or not, they were determined to time this right and cause as much unsettlement and disruption as possible for hibs.

Absolute slimeballs with their dirty little tactics. Although perhaps we should see this as flattering, they clearly are worried about hibs this season if they need to try sly tricks. Then again it really is just the rangers way. Classless.

[matty_f]

Don't embarrass us - and yourself - with that crap. We have nothing in common with them either. They are also vile.

He wasn't serious.

[21.05.2016]

Hibs boss Alan Stubbs made a personal call to Rangers counterpart Mark Warburton and issued a definitive ‘no’ to all current and future bids for Easter Road playmaker Scott Allan.
Lifted from the daily mail

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I hope thats just a polite way of saying "Stubbs told Warburton and his grotty, vile wee club to GTF"

[matty_f]

Since 1968 and I have seen some good teams and a lot of poor ones.This situation is starting to remind me of Colin Stein,Craig Paterson, Kevin Thomson and Ian Murray.

What do you thing of the new club's approach? Do you think it's in keeping with the manky *******s? Do to not just wish they'd **** off and die again?

[Galahibby]

Which would be so convenient for sevco. The timing of this is just a further demonstration of the filth they are.

I don't get the timing at all. I mean we've seen this sort of crap from Celtc and Rangers(RIP) many times before in the run up to important games, but exactly how desperate are they to win the Petrofac Training Cup??? I suppose it would be their first trophy, but still... :dunno:

[Jim44]

Don't embarrass us - and yourself - with that crap. We have nothing in common with them either. They are also vile.

Whoosh. Personally can't stand 'whooshing' but couldn't help myself on this occasion.

[Paisley Hibby]

If it's true has has "pleaded with Hibs" to let him go to the Huns for £175k then I very much doubt he'll be playing tomorrow. I really hope this is the usual crap that comes out of DR to appeal to the Hun Hoards, as SA must realise that Hibs are in no position to sell him to that lot for such a miserly fee.

The £175 - 225k that the Huns have reportedly offered is well short of SA's value to Hibs, but this is all the Huns can afford. The media know this and are basically trying to force Hibs hand to help them out. Utterly disgusting.

It's all pish and wind and nothing personal or biased. Its just that the Daily Record knows its readers are not the brightest, are mostly Old Firm fans and generally lap up and swallow this kind of nonsense. For The Record it sells their "newspaper", end of.

Rangers bid is not to do with actually wanting Scott Allan or even football per se. It's psychology. Rangers want to put Hibs in "our place" by taking our "best player" against our wishes. Rangers problem is they don't seem to have enough money to do that. Scott Allan is just a pawn in this game.

[Waxy]

He's off to Celtic.

We only sell to our own kind.Our own kind? Your joking right. Celtic quite happily almost killed our club.

[Lucius Apuleius]

I'm leaning towards the " huns never wanted him in the first place camp". The more I think about it, the more I believe if they had seriously wanted Scott they would have put in a bid after the bread man came and not wait until 3 days before we play them. $#€%.

[Just Alf]

Our own kind? Your joking right. Celtic quite happily almost killed our club.

:greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

SA wants to go to Rangers. No doubt about it .. just as Ciftci was determined to go to Cellic and not Wigan.

And therein lies a problem for Hibs - there doesn't appear to be another party involved to up any fee, and secondly SA will simply refuse to go anyway.

SA is a Rangers fan, is settled in the West and has a family to think about. The wage on offer from Rangers will be c. £6k basic and £2k per performance.

SA will know this as Viola will have discussed this with Rangers IMHO. I reckon this will be 5x - 6x what SA earns at present.

With 5 weeks of the window to go, I stand by comments I have made for some time that he will sign for Rangers..

Even though the Club has now issued a couple of statements saying he is not for sale, and won't be going to them?

[coco22]

I'm leaning towards the " huns never wanted him in the first place camp". The more I think about it, the more I believe if they had seriously wanted Scott they would have put in a bid after the bread man came and not wait until 3 days before we play them. $#€%.

Am in total agreement that they know they can't afford him. I think that Warburton only now realising how good SA is after his pre-season. Terrible timing (for us) nonetheless

[Keith_M]

"I plan to see out my contract at Hibs"

Scott Allan.



OK, Scott, let's see you live up to your promise.

[JDT]

Could anyone settle an argument I'm having with a boy from the work. He's saying if SA wants to go and we can't agree a fee with Sevco it would it go to a tribunal and they would settle it. I thought that tribunals only happened with players under the age of 23 who were trained by their club (Charlie Telfer for example). Please tell me I'm right!

[Brightside]

Could anyone settle an argument I'm having with a boy from the work. He's saying if SA wants to go and we can't agree a fee with Sevco it would it go to a tribunal and they would settle it. I thought that tribunals only happened with players under the age of 23 who were trained by their club (Charlie Telfer for example). Please tell me I'm right!

He's under contract. So if we want he stays until the day that ends. At that point any team can sign him for zero.

[Del Boy]

Could anyone settle an argument I'm having with a boy from the work. He's saying if SA wants to go and we can't agree a fee with Sevco it would it go to a tribunal and they would settle it. I thought that tribunals only happened with players under the age of 23 who were trained by their club (Charlie Telfer for example). Please tell me I'm right!

You're right, he'd also need to be out of contract.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Could anyone settle an argument I'm having with a boy from the work. He's saying if SA wants to go and we can't agree a fee with Sevco it would it go to a tribunal and they would settle it. I thought that tribunals only happened with players under the age of 23 who were trained by their club (Charlie Telfer for example). Please tell me I'm right!

That's complete horses He's under contract. End of story.

[Coco Bryce]

Allan not playing tomorrow.

[Waxy]

Could anyone settle an argument I'm having with a boy from the work. He's saying if SA wants to go and we can't agree a fee with Sevco it would it go to a tribunal and they would settle it. I thought that tribunals only happened with players under the age of 23 who were trained by their club (Charlie Telfer for example). Please tell me I'm right!I thought it all changed with the bosman ruling.No more tribunals. Clubs have to agree or no sale. Players are free agents once the contract ends. Its how it should be. Not sure about pre contract agreements.

[California-Hibs]

Allan not playing tomorrow.

Where you hearing this?

[Ryan91]

Allan not playing tomorrow.

Source?

[Frazerbob]

"I plan to see out my contract at Hibs"

Scott Allan.



OK, Scott, let's see you live up to your promise.

He never promised. He was very vague and said what every other player would say when in a similar situation. I said it at the time that his commitment and statements seemed pretty fluffy. Plans change!

[Hermit Crab]

Allan not playing tomorrow.


Let us know the team then since you seem to know SA will not be playing.....

[Thecat23]

Allan not playing tomorrow.

There was no chance of him playing IMO. Not after all the speculation and rumours he wants to go!

[hibbybob]

Whilst it's right that we all express our concerns and opinions I can't help feeling there's too much negativity.
Hibs have categorically said that SA won't be sold to The Rangers and I really don't think that will change!
So, let's look at the positive message this sends not only to us as supporters but to the players. As a player I'd be motivated by the fact that the club won't cash in at the expense of our promotion bid.
Perhaps SA will go elsewhere and whilst that would be a loss, nobody is irreplaceable!
I trust LD and co to do the right thing here!

[Billy Whizz]

There was no chance of him playing IMO. Not after all the speculation and rumours he wants to go!

Should be on the bench at least, we want to win the game

[Just Alf]

Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar 36m36 minutes ago
Strong stuff from Alan Stubbs this morning. 'Categorically, we will not sell Scott Allan to Rangers.'