View Full Version : Greggs Winter transfer thread 2020-21
MWHIBBIES
30-01-2021, 11:26 AM
Rather we didn't sell him and I actually don't think we will. That being said, club surviving comfortably is all that actually matters. Players come and go.
hibee62
30-01-2021, 11:30 AM
We should also remember that when crowds are allowed back it will be at a reduced capacity initially which won’t be enough for every season ticket holder, never mind walk ups. That means no match day income for a long time!
skyehibee
30-01-2021, 11:34 AM
Ross Stewart signing for Sunderland
easty
30-01-2021, 11:35 AM
Ross Stewart signing for Sunderland
They just signed Jordan Jones tae
BSEJVT
30-01-2021, 11:43 AM
Not so sure about this. There were plenty good players, more like Heckingbottom didn’t know how to get the best from them. Nor would I describe the current squad as an absolute calamity. Imbalanced maybe, and that is the hand if Ross at work there.
I still think there is a lot of work to be done re-shaping the squad we are chock full on very average midfielders, most but not all of whom he inherited, and very light in central defence and striking positions, the problem leading up to Ross (whom I have no great love for) was that we were a pretty old squad as well, particularly in the defensive positions
Greenworld
30-01-2021, 11:44 AM
We should also remember that when crowds are allowed back it will be at a reduced capacity initially which won’t be enough for every season ticket holder, never mind walk ups. That means no match day income for a long time!I think come August we will hopefully be in totally different situation with the vaccinations well on the road into lower age groups..
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hibee62
30-01-2021, 11:47 AM
I think come August we will hopefully be in totally different situation with the vaccinations well on the road into lower age groups..
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While that’s true I don’t think it will go from 0 fans to full capacity right away. And there’s likely to be staging posts to check long term efficacy and so on... we also know the Scottish Government likes a more cautious opening than the UK Gov.
Jonnyboy
30-01-2021, 11:52 AM
Lots of people already having a go at the club for selling at this point. Some are raging. IF no players are sold in this window will same people be praising the club for holding on to players?
SHODAN
30-01-2021, 11:53 AM
Lots of people already having a go at the club for selling at this point. Some are raging. IF no players are sold in this window will same people be praising the club for holding on to players?
Yes.
Greenworld
30-01-2021, 11:53 AM
3 million for Nisbet would be incredible money right nowI agree and I think 2 million is incredible money [emoji383] if 1 out gets us 3 quality players in crack on .
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Are we struggling to stay afloat? I seriously doubt it.
We've lost quite a few coaching staff and back room team and are working a full squad with what I can see is 2 coaches and a goalkeeping coach, we have no fitness coach either, cuts have been made all over the club all to save money, I'd say we're not struggling but are near the bottom money wise.
superfurryhibby
30-01-2021, 11:56 AM
I still think there is a lot of work to be done re-shaping the squad we are chock full on very average midfielders, most but not all of whom he inherited, and very light in central defence and striking positions, the problem leading up to Ross (whom I have no great love for) was that we were a pretty old squad as well, particularly in the defensive positions
We had McGregor, Hanlon, Porteous and Jackson competing for centre half, with Vela, Newell, Whittaker, Slivka, Mallan, Hallberg and Allan for central midfield.
I agree that striking options were limited and that the introduction of McGinn aided the defence.
I think that squad was better than the performances under Heckingbottom suggested, that was borne out by the improvement we saw once he left.
Ross has had three transfer windows now and The squad is still imbalanced. Short of competition up front and out wide in particular. The performance of McGregor suggests he still has something left to give at Hibs. Equally, Gogic has played a fair bit at centre half and he’s never been tried there at Hibs.
Gordy M
30-01-2021, 12:00 PM
QUOTE=Jonnyboy;6443414]Lots of people already having a go at the club for selling at this point. Some are raging. IF no players are sold in this window will same people be praising the club for holding on to players?[/QUOTE]
100% , though m not sure we will, from the folk who are so outraged at the rumours........
easty
30-01-2021, 12:01 PM
Lots of people already having a go at the club for selling at this point. Some are raging. IF no players are sold in this window will same people be praising the club for holding on to players?
I’d imagine so, yeah.
Greenworld
30-01-2021, 12:02 PM
We've lost quite a few coaching staff and back room team and are working a full squad with what I can see is 2 coaches and a goalkeeping coach, we have no fitness coach either, cuts have been made all over the club all to save money, I'd say we're not struggling but are near the bottom money wise.I don't have inside info but I'm sure I recall Ron saying the savage cuts were needed so as not to waste the cash balance the club had built up.
I wrote a long time ago that American run business are Brutal when things are tough financially to protect the business and the cash within.
I am confident that we are still healthy cash wise .
If you can further protect that by moving 1 player out to get 3 in it makes a lot of sense.
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Mr. Wonderful
30-01-2021, 12:03 PM
Lots of people already having a go at the club for selling at this point. Some are raging. IF no players are sold in this window will same people be praising the club for holding on to players?
Yes but it's unlikely now.
I don't have inside info but I'm sure I recall Ron saying the savage cuts were needed so as not to waste the cash balance the club had built up.
I wrote a long time ago that American run business are Brutal when things are tough financially to protect the business and the cash within.
I am confident that we are still healthy cash wise .
If you can further protect that by moving 1 player out to get 3 in it makes a lot of sense.
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Not if the 1 is excellent and the 3 are garbage (or less good) it doesn't. That's also 3 wages versus 1.
We had McGregor, Hanlon, Porteous and Jackson competing for centre half, with Vela, Newell, Whittaker, Slivka, Mallan, Hallberg and Allan for central midfield.
I agree that striking options were limited and that the introduction of McGinn aided the defence.
I think that squad was better than the performances under Heckingbottom suggested, that was borne out by the improvement we saw once he left.
Ross has had three transfer windows now and The squad is still imbalanced. Short of competition up front and out wide in particular. The performance of McGregor suggests he still has something left to give at Hibs. Equally, Gogic has played a fair bit at centre half and he’s never been tried there at Hibs.
The fact that Wright has been such a disappointment hasn't helped as I think he was brought in to put pressure on Boyle, Murphy on the left seems a good idea but 3-4 seasons too late, struggling for fitness due to repetitive injuries and only having young Gullan to push him on. A 3d striker should've been brought in to push Doidge and Nisbet and as we've seen both really struggling to score and no one to come in except a young untested Gullan. We have plethora of midfielders and can't play them all especially if we play 442 a lot of the time, we've also got 3 RB's and 3LB's at the club when we're crying out for another CH and CF to challenge.
I'm still struggling to see Ross's transfer policy and struggling to see what kind of football he wants his teams to play as his signings are random and seem to be only signed because they're available.
I don't have inside info but I'm sure I recall Ron saying the savage cuts were needed so as not to waste the cash balance the club had built up.
I wrote a long time ago that American run business are Brutal when things are tough financially to protect the business and the cash within.
I am confident that we are still healthy cash wise .
If you can further protect that by moving 1 player out to get 3 in it makes a lot of sense.
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Similar to what I said cuts made to save money so selling may have to be an option to move forward.
banchoryhibs
30-01-2021, 12:32 PM
I don't have inside info but I'm sure I recall Ron saying the savage cuts were needed so as not to waste the cash balance the club had built up.
I wrote a long time ago that American run business are Brutal when things are tough financially to protect the business and the cash within.
I am confident that we are still healthy cash wise .
If you can further protect that by moving 1 player out to get 3 in it makes a lot of sense.
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I would be astonished if the cash balance hasn't already been at least partially depleted, Ron commented on this when saying that many of the "WOW" spending plans (big screen; electronic advertising boards etc) were postponed as those funds were also needed elsewhere.
We've had reassuring comments that we're still solvent with no prospect of facing financial meltdown this season but I expect that should fans not be allowed back by the start of next season our position will become more difficult. The monthly contribution made by HSL is undoubtedly a great help.
Ron is very hands on so I'm confident that he will fully understand our cash flow projections and will have contingencies in place if difficulties are approaching.
I'd love to see us recruit an additional goal scorer and if this means unloading some of our midfield players (Mallan, Hallberg, Wright spring to mind) then so be it.
The Sundance Kid
30-01-2021, 12:46 PM
Porteous and Nisbet on the bench
thebausburst
30-01-2021, 12:48 PM
Nisbet out Shankland in?
blackpoolhibs
30-01-2021, 12:49 PM
Nisbet and Porteous not starting today according to my source, (twitter) :wink:
madhatter
30-01-2021, 12:50 PM
Wow, maybe both are going...
bingo70
30-01-2021, 12:50 PM
Both had a lot of distractions this week, makes sense for them to start on the bench.
Don’t think it tells us anything other than no deal been agreed with another club yet.
Smartie
30-01-2021, 12:50 PM
Might we just fancy a bit of wheeling and dealing?
You hear phrases like “buyer’s market” getting thrown about.
Might we fancy taking the decent sum that is on offer during difficult times and spend it on 3 or 4 other players?
I realise we don’t have a great track record at being successful at this but would we really object to us using the money to plunder clubs for players we might sell again for similar sums when things get back to normal in a year or 2?
Unseen work
30-01-2021, 12:52 PM
Not concerned that both are on the bench as speculation about them and also there form hasn’t been great of late.
Mallan not in the squad again so I imagine he’s leaving.
Heisenberg
30-01-2021, 12:54 PM
Birmingham linked with a different striker for £3m
https://twitter.com/wilfordwm/status/1355513128260411393?s=21
madhatter
30-01-2021, 12:55 PM
Might we just fancy a bit of wheeling and dealing?
You hear phrases like “buyer’s market” getting thrown about.
Might we fancy taking the decent sum that is on offer during difficult times and spend it on 3 or 4 other players?
I realise we don’t have a great track record at being successful at this but would we really object to us using the money to plunder clubs for players we might sell again for similar sums when things get back to normal in a year or 2?
If we sell and bring in 2-3 Nisbet type talents then I think it makes sense. That, and it would help club finances. Needs to be very good money though.
Smartie
30-01-2021, 12:55 PM
There are strong footballing reasons for both Nisbet and Porteous to not play today.
ScottB
30-01-2021, 12:56 PM
Might we just fancy a bit of wheeling and dealing?
You hear phrases like “buyer’s market” getting thrown about.
Might we fancy taking the decent sum that is on offer during difficult times and spend it on 3 or 4 other players?
I realise we don’t have a great track record at being successful at this but would we really object to us using the money to plunder clubs for players we might sell again for similar sums when things get back to normal in a year or 2?
By Monday though? If we sell these guys can’t imagine we’ll be doing much wheeling or dealing in the time left.
Magpie
30-01-2021, 12:56 PM
Birmingham linked with a different striker for £3m
https://twitter.com/wilfordwm/status/1355513128260411393?s=21
The £3m mark seems to be what their looking for. I think we would take £3m for Nisbet with a sell on fee included.
Lee Marvin
30-01-2021, 12:57 PM
Thanks for the memories lads...
Lee Marvin
30-01-2021, 12:58 PM
Not concerned that both are on the bench as speculation about them and also there form hasn’t been great of late.
Mallan not in the squad again so I imagine he’s leaving.
Nesbit being on the bench is nothing to do with form, let's be honest here. He has not been dropped once this season.
Both seem likely to leave now
ElginHibbie
30-01-2021, 12:58 PM
There are strong footballing reasons for both Nisbet and Porteous to not play today.
Yeah, if there wasn’t the transfer speculation them being on bench still wouldn’t be a shock. Be more concerned if weren’t in squad at all
Swath
Smartie
30-01-2021, 12:59 PM
By Monday though? If we sell these guys can’t imagine we’ll be doing much wheeling or dealing in the time left.
I agree it’s a big ask and the timing’s far from ideal.
Caversham Green
30-01-2021, 12:59 PM
Fir Dramatic Effect
Thought The Dons had several games in hand and We aren’t winning many games and Livingston are
If we sell our best assets it’s not impossible that what I said could become what happens
Next couple of games though is our chance to get back winning games
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Both clubs have one game in hand over Hibs. They play each other today and again on Tuesday which means at least one of them will be dropping points. Wins against United today and St Mirren on Tuesday will see us gaining ground on at least one of them.
superfurryhibby
30-01-2021, 12:59 PM
There are strong footballing reasons for both Nisbet and Porteous to not play today.
Totally agree. It’s competition for a place in the starting line up.
Smartie
30-01-2021, 01:01 PM
Nesbit being on the bench is nothing to do with form, let's be honest here. He has not been dropped once this season.
Both seem likely to leave now
Nisbet has played an awful lot of football and looks like he needs a rest.
Given off field stuff like losing his Dad along the way he’d be forgiven for feeling a bit of physical and mental fatigue whilst he plays his first season of top division football.
bigwheel
30-01-2021, 01:02 PM
Nisbet has played an awful lot of football and looks like he needs a rest.
Given off field stuff like losing his Dad along the way he’d be forgiven for feeling a bit of physical and mental fatigue whilst he plays his first season of top division football.
Nah. He’s off - if they get a replacement , they will both be off
ElginHibbie
30-01-2021, 01:03 PM
Nesbit being on the bench is nothing to do with form, let's be honest here. He has not been dropped once this season.
Both seem likely to leave now
1 goal in 7 leagues and busy couple of weeks, it could definitely be form or other non transfer reasons
madhatter
30-01-2021, 01:03 PM
I agree it’s a big ask and the timing’s far from ideal.
Surely if they are going and on bench because of that we’re already making phone calls now. If it is other Scottish talent like Nisbet I think we could get deals done quite quickly due to the financial strain.
All rumours just now but I’d be surprised if Nisbet stays now, pretty much never been dropped even through his difficult time. Porteous got a knock against Rangers but similarly think he’s probably gone.
Lee Marvin
30-01-2021, 01:06 PM
1 goal in 7 leagues and busy couple of weeks, it could definitely be form or other non transfer reasons
Nah, disagree. This is 99% down to possible transfer. Doesnt mean he is definitely gone, but it means that there is something happening in background.
sleeping giant
30-01-2021, 01:08 PM
Nah, disagree. This is 99% down to possible transfer. Doesnt mean he is definitely gone, but it means that there is something happening in background.
No it doesn't.
It doesnt mean that at all.
Are you actually being serious ?
ElginHibbie
30-01-2021, 01:09 PM
Nah, disagree. This is 99% down to possible transfer. Doesnt mean he is definitely gone, but it means that there is something happening in background.
He could be distracted by the chat for sure, but saying “thanks for the memories” already is jumping to conclusions far too soon
Lee Marvin
30-01-2021, 01:10 PM
No it doesn't.
It doesnt mean that at all.
Are you actually being serious ?
Deadly serious. There are two possible reasons. Dropped for footballing reasons (not happened once this season) or for possible transfer (when we know for a fact that teams have made bids this week).
Not saying he is definitely going, but he hasn't been dropped due to form (even if Ross says that is the case)
cabbageandribs1875
30-01-2021, 01:14 PM
i'd be very surprised if our top goal scorer has been dropped for anything other than having his head turned
chrisski33
30-01-2021, 01:15 PM
So Porto amd Nisbet on the bench so some think they are off? Means f all, they could still start and still be off on Monday, at least one of them will be still at Hibs come Tuesday
bingo70
30-01-2021, 01:17 PM
Deadly serious. There are two possible reasons. Dropped for footballing reasons (not happened once this season) or for possible transfer (when we know for a fact that teams have made bids this week).
Not saying he is definitely going, but he hasn't been dropped due to form (even if Ross says that is the case)
I think his head will be all over the place after the last few days he’s had.
he’s not been playing well.
The team hasn’t looked like scoring with him in it anyway.
Add to that there’s a good chance he’ll get sold, I think it makes complete sense he’s been left on the bench
easty
30-01-2021, 01:17 PM
Both had a lot of distractions this week, makes sense for them to start on the bench.
Don’t think it tells us anything other than no deal been agreed with another club yet.
If Nisbet was fit mentally to play the semi final after his dad passed away, then he should be fine today.
I think him being out says a lot. He’s gone.
Ronniekirk
30-01-2021, 01:18 PM
Nesbit being on the bench is nothing to do with form, let's be honest here. He has not been dropped once this season.
Both seem likely to leave now
I think if both were defo leaving they wouldn’t be on the Bench
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Andy74
30-01-2021, 01:20 PM
I think if both were defo leaving they wouldn’t be on the Bench
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Yeah, says nothing really. Both couldn’t argue with sitting out based on last few weeks.
bingo70
30-01-2021, 01:20 PM
If Nisbet was fit mentally to play the semi final after his dad passed away, then he should be fine today.
I think him being out says a lot. He’s gone.
I think he’ll be away as well but I’m not sure the fact he’s on the bench really confirms that one way or the other.
If they don’t meet our asking price he doesn’t go.
sleeping giant
30-01-2021, 01:21 PM
I think if both were defo leaving they wouldn’t be on the Bench
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That's where I am.
I'm not saying they won't go but being on the bench today is not an indication of this.
Scooter
30-01-2021, 01:22 PM
I think if both were defo leaving they wouldn’t be on the Bench
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If there were serious money then, exactly they wouldn't be on the bench
Callum_62
30-01-2021, 01:22 PM
If they were out the squad I'd say guarenteed they are gone
I'm not surprised they arnt starting today regardless where the deals are going
I think atleast 1 will go and I wouldn't be surprised at both going but I don't think being dropped to the bench confirms anything
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superfurryhibby
30-01-2021, 01:23 PM
That's where I am.
I'm not saying they won't go but being on the bench today is not an indication of this.
Both have been gash recently. Like Boyle and Hanlon recently, no one is undroppable based on current form. The team needs freshened up, that’s all it is .
Newell not on the bench despite having trained this week. Does that mean he’s away too
Andy74
30-01-2021, 01:25 PM
After 60 odd years I should be used to it but it still frustrates me. I understand the economics of it but it’s the reason fans question why we are consistently seen as a mid table club.
Aberdeen doing the same thing. Just the way it is and football squads will continue to change constantly now for teams like us.
Up a level but Celtic not immune to it either. Frimpong the latest they would have wanted to keep but the numbers added up and player wanted to progress.
madhatter
30-01-2021, 01:29 PM
I think if both were defo leaving they wouldn’t be on the Bench
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Can we fill the bench without them? Doubt we could with players in their positions. What would fan reaction be if they weren’t on bench?
CMurdoch
30-01-2021, 01:31 PM
There are strong footballing reasons for both Nisbet and Porteous to not play today.
Yeah, I called this yesterday.
Porteous was injured against Rangers and has made a lot of mistakes recently. Played against Rangers because of his physicality. Total logic that he sits out today before returning on Tuesday when Daz needs a rest. Going nowhere.
Nisbet has been run into the ground and he is a young guy who has had to cope with the death of his father and on top of that he has had this weeks transfer chat on the back of the disappointment of the St Johnstone game. That is a lot of strain on a very young man and all things considered he needs not to start today. If required will be brought on today in the last part of the game and could start on Tuesday. Not going anywhere for less than £2.5 million and I don't see Birmingham wanting to spend that level of money on him.
Relax folks.
Mallan is another kettle of fish. The obvious signs are that Hibs are willing to let him go on loan or permanently. Signed for £200k and on a good wage and it is evident that Ross doesn't see him as part of his plans. He is on borrowed time at Hibs I am afraid.
ahibby
30-01-2021, 01:31 PM
If they were out the squad I'd say guarenteed they are gone
I'm not surprised they arnt starting today regardless where the deals are going
I think atleast 1 will go and I wouldn't be surprised at both going but I don't think being dropped to the bench confirms anything
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I agree with this, it doesn't tell us anything especially when you look at the starting eleven and we have a game on Tuesday. It's good to be able to put out a good eleven to start like today and have some players on the bench who would normally start and possibly being kept fresh for the midweek game. Daz probably needs rested in midweek game and having a fresh Porto back in his place can't be bad.
weecounty hibby
30-01-2021, 01:36 PM
Remember Porto came off injured on Wednesday night. And there were calls from a fair few on this board to have both dropped anyway. Possibly nothing in it at all
hibee-boys
30-01-2021, 01:43 PM
Jack Ross spoke about resting players who had just about been on the pitch for just about every minute this season. Nisbet and Porteous were due a break, McGregor deserves to keep his place and Hanlon/Boyle were rightly ‘rested’ during the week. We need Boyle and Doidge to step up today, key players from last season who have not produced a consistent run of form this season. Playing Boyle through the middle, if that is the formation, does not fill me confidence.
Sir David Gray
30-01-2021, 01:45 PM
I'm not saying there's necessarily anything in it but if neither of them had even made the bench today, would we have had anyone else to have come in and replace them as subs?
I'm not sure we have any other striker or centre half from the first team squad who could have come in. I'm not 100% convinced that the fact that they are out of the starting line up but still on the bench is a sign they're staying.
B.H.F.C
30-01-2021, 01:45 PM
If Nisbet was fit mentally to play the semi final after his dad passed away, then he should be fine today.
I think him being out says a lot. He’s gone.
If either were gone they’d not even be on the bench.
Expected Porteous to be benched regardless, after McGregor played well the other day and given his own form.
Less so Nisbet, but he’s not exactly been playing well.
staunchhibby
30-01-2021, 01:52 PM
Doing playing today
staunchhibby
30-01-2021, 01:54 PM
Oops doig
Hibiza
30-01-2021, 01:58 PM
Think being benched is a smart move , kees all options open .
easty
30-01-2021, 02:00 PM
If either were gone they’d not even be on the bench.
Expected Porteous to be benched regardless, after McGregor played well the other day and given his own form.
Less so Nisbet, but he’s not exactly been playing well.
Disagree
We’ve had players on the bench all season that we’ve had no intention of using. It means nothing.
Heisenberg
30-01-2021, 02:01 PM
https://twitter.com/tyrone_m_smith/status/1355531008142139397?s=21
JR says they’re benched because of the speculation but it doesn’t mean they’re leaving.
banchoryhibs
30-01-2021, 02:05 PM
Could Newell be away? No place in the squad despite JR saying everyone was fit.
ElginHibbie
30-01-2021, 02:07 PM
Could Newell be away? No place in the squad despite JR saying everyone was fit.
Hopefully just not rushing him back, I'd rather not risk him today to ensure he's fit for Aberdeen next week
blackpoolhibs
30-01-2021, 02:19 PM
Not sure what it is whenever dundee utd go forward they look to be getting towards our box easily
It might be your telly, its not happening on mine?
Hibs90
30-01-2021, 02:58 PM
Can we sign this guy? :greengrin
https://twitter.com/ESPNnl/status/1355534216533069824
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 03:03 PM
Can we sign this guy? :greengrin
https://twitter.com/ESPNnl/status/1355534216533069824
Jizz👀
chrisski33
30-01-2021, 03:13 PM
If Nisbet was fit mentally to play the semi final after his dad passed away, then he should be fine today.
I think him being out says a lot. He’s gone.
Not necessarily, the speculation if him possibly transferring down south and being away from close family may be affecting him mentally after the loss of his dad.
thebausburst
30-01-2021, 03:36 PM
What a difference at the back with no nonsense McGregor owning everything 👍
Since452
30-01-2021, 04:06 PM
What a difference at the back with no nonsense McGregor owning everything 👍
Porteous dropped and a clean sheet. No surprise.
Since452
30-01-2021, 04:06 PM
Jizz👀
Hornkamp 👀
Unseen work
30-01-2021, 04:07 PM
The fact Nisbet never even got on isn’t great.
Mcgregor was brilliant but I’m not going to make out he is the answer to our problems. Still need another centre half, 2 if Porteous leaves.
Hibstrooper
30-01-2021, 04:16 PM
The fact Nisbet never even got on isn’t great.
Mcgregor was brilliant but I’m not going to make out he is the answer to our problems. Still need another centre half, 2 if Porteous leaves.
Nisbet wasn’t needed today. Has played a lot of football recently so giving him a rest is no bad thing, particularly with a tough game coming up on Tuesday
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 04:18 PM
Porteous dropped and a clean sheet. No surprise.
11 clean sheets Hibs have kept when Porteous has played.
Dazzjw1875
30-01-2021, 04:20 PM
Being on the bench and not playing doesnt mean they are not away, and neither does it mean they are staying. But I dont think Hibs couldve had enough to put on the bench if the two of them were not in the squad today. Guess we just need to wait and see but I can bet hibs would've made moves likewise for replacements if they know they will sell them..
scoopyboy
30-01-2021, 04:38 PM
Being on the bench and not playing doesnt mean they are not away, and neither does it mean they are staying. But I dont think Hibs couldve had enough to put on the bench if the two of them were not in the squad today. Guess we just need to wait and see but I can bet hibs would've made moves likewise for replacements if they know they will sell them..
David Gray, Steven McGinn, Sean Mackie could have been put on the bench so there was options.
EVENTUALLY
30-01-2021, 04:39 PM
Celtic are in free fall. Nisbet and Porto could never have a better chance to squeak into the Champions League. Stranger things....
Billy Whizz
30-01-2021, 04:40 PM
David Gray, Steven McGinn, Sean Mackie could have been put on the bench so there was options.
And Bradley
madhatter
30-01-2021, 04:41 PM
David Gray, Steven McGinn, Sean Mackie could have been put on the bench so there was options.
None of them play in the positions of either Nisbet or Porteous though. If McGregor had been injured we’d immediately have to change shape without having Porteous as an option. Similar with Nisbet, Gullan is there but never gets played so had Doidge got injured we needed Nisbet on bench.
11 clean sheets Hibs have kept when Porteous has played.
Yep, including our prior game at Tannadice!
Brummie_Hibs
30-01-2021, 04:54 PM
Can we sign this guy? :greengrin
https://twitter.com/ESPNnl/status/1355534216533069824
Cum on the Hibees!
CMurdoch
30-01-2021, 04:59 PM
Can we sign this guy? :greengrin
https://twitter.com/ESPNnl/status/1355534216533069824
Horrific defending against the Jizzmeister
inglisavhibs
30-01-2021, 04:59 PM
P
Porteous dropped and a clean sheet. No surprise.
We have only lost 8 goals in 13 away league games, you can’t d9 that with poor defenders. Porteous has played in most and saves us on many occasions, but you keep harping on about his mistakes if that’s what rocks your boat. He is the best young centre half in Scotland by a fair bit.
bingo70
30-01-2021, 05:10 PM
No word from Jack Ross in the post match interview?
Wondered if he might have let his guard down a bit after the game and told us a bit more.
Brightside
30-01-2021, 05:10 PM
None of them play in the positions of either Nisbet or Porteous though. If McGregor had been injured we’d immediately have to change shape without having Porteous as an option. Similar with Nisbet, Gullan is there but never gets played so had Doidge got injured we needed Nisbet on bench.
Gogic and McGinn cover at RCB.
scoopyboy
30-01-2021, 05:10 PM
None of them play in the positions of either Nisbet or Porteous though. If McGregor had been injured we’d immediately have to change shape without having Porteous as an option. Similar with Nisbet, Gullan is there but never gets played so had Doidge got injured we needed Nisbet on bench.
I never said they did, I was answering to a poste who said we couldn't fill the bench without them.
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 05:12 PM
Millwall have had a bid accepted for Derby County’s George Evans.
The Lions will now open negotiations with the 26-year-old, who can play in central midfield and also the backline.
Derby County manager Wayne Rooney confirmed after their match today that an offer had been accepted for Evans.
He said: “There has now been an offer, and it’s up to George to make a decision. I’ve told George I can’t guarantee him game time and won’t stand in his way.”
weecounty hibby
30-01-2021, 05:14 PM
Between now and the summer we should be trying out very best to keep Jackson Irvine.
Souter96Mac
30-01-2021, 05:19 PM
Between now and the summer we should be trying out very best to keep Jackson Irvine.
Maybe a slight silver lining if we do cash in on Nisbet and/or Porto, could help support us offering the likes of Newell and Irvine the deals they want?
blackpoolhibs
30-01-2021, 05:20 PM
Between now and the summer we should be trying out very best to keep Jackson Irvine.
And if we cant get him, we should go for Irvine Jackson.
Sorry Dave. :greengrin
Zambernardi1875
30-01-2021, 05:20 PM
Nesbit should stay, score 5-6 goals, hibs into europe, get into the scotland squad. score 2 goals in the Euros and go for 6mil and 20k a week.
easty
30-01-2021, 05:22 PM
Porteous dropped and a clean sheet. No surprise.
That’s a ***** comment. Porteous has kept loads of clean sheets this season.
No surprise to see the anti-Hibs comments from the usual places.
Support your team for **** sake.
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 05:22 PM
Jack Ross insisted benching Hibernian wanted men Kevin Nisbet and Ryan Porteous for the 2-0 win over Dundee United was purely to give the pair respite after days of speculation over their respective futures.
The duo watched on from the sidelines as the men in green and white dug in for a hard-fought three points against an underwhelming Tangerines side at Tannadice courtesy of goals from Darren McGregor and Martin Boyle.
Birmingham City are rumoured to be plotting another bid for striker Nisbet after seeing an offer of more than £2 million thrown out by the Easter Road outfit during the week, while Millwall have not met Hibs’ valuation of Scotland under-21 cap Porteous.
Ross remains confident the duo will still be Hibees come the midnight transfer deadline on Monday, adding he made a “judgement call” to leave them out of the starting line up
madhatter
30-01-2021, 05:24 PM
Gogic and McGinn cover at RCB.
So make a pairing that’s never played together and force a formation change rather than put Porteous on the bench?
That’s a ***** comment. Porteous has kept loads of clean sheets this season.
No surprise to see the anti-Hibs comments from the usual places.
Support your team for **** sake.
Yep, I find the constant negativity so wearing.
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 05:49 PM
Liam Lindsay if Porto goes
houstonhibbee
30-01-2021, 05:49 PM
No word from Jack Ross in the post match interview?
Wondered if he might have let his guard down a bit after the game and told us a bit more.
I think he said everything in the Friday pre match interview. Nothing will have changed since then
Souter96Mac
30-01-2021, 05:50 PM
Nesbit should stay, score 5-6 goals, hibs into europe, get into the scotland squad. score 2 goals in the Euros and go for 6mil and 20k a week.
If Nisbet manages to score in the Euros, he'd be worth at least £7.5m I'd say. To score in such a major tournament would be massive.
houstonhibbee
30-01-2021, 05:51 PM
I never said they did, I was answering to a poste who said we couldn't fill the bench without them.
Your missing his point though - even after he took the time to spell it out for you
Alfred E Newman
30-01-2021, 05:51 PM
11 clean sheets Hibs have kept when Porteous has played.
Stop bringing up facts. :rules:
easty
30-01-2021, 05:51 PM
Liam Lindsay if Porto goes
Would prefer him to either Findlay or Kerr.
percy veer
30-01-2021, 05:55 PM
If Nisbet manages to score in the Euros, he'd be worth at least £7.5m I'd say. To score in such a major tournament would be massive.
You're being sarcastic... I hope .
flash
30-01-2021, 05:59 PM
Liam Lindsay if Porto goes
Maybe even if he doesn't.
Wilson
30-01-2021, 06:01 PM
Liam Lindsay if Porto goes
Is he the same as this Lindsay Liam guy that Hibbyradge probably mentioned?
Souter96Mac
30-01-2021, 06:06 PM
Maybe even if he doesn't.
Looks like he hasn't played a single game for Stoke this season. He'll be keen to try and get a spot in the Euro squad too
Billy Whizz
30-01-2021, 06:10 PM
Looks like he hasn't played a single game for Stoke this season. He'll be keen to try and get a spot in the Euro squad too
Is he a right or left sided centre back
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-linked-liam-lindsay-transfer-19736366
flash
30-01-2021, 06:14 PM
Is he a right or left sided centre back
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-linked-liam-lindsay-transfer-19736366
Left I think.
CmoantheHibs
30-01-2021, 06:15 PM
Can we sign this guy? :greengrin
https://twitter.com/ESPNnl/status/1355534216533069824
Semenly shoots very well
GreenCastle
30-01-2021, 06:16 PM
Jack Ross insisted benching Hibernian wanted men Kevin Nisbet and Ryan Porteous for the 2-0 win over Dundee United was purely to give the pair respite after days of speculation over their respective futures.
The duo watched on from the sidelines as the men in green and white dug in for a hard-fought three points against an underwhelming Tangerines side at Tannadice courtesy of goals from Darren McGregor and Martin Boyle.
Birmingham City are rumoured to be plotting another bid for striker Nisbet after seeing an offer of more than £2 million thrown out by the Easter Road outfit during the week, while Millwall have not met Hibs’ valuation of Scotland under-21 cap Porteous.
Ross remains confident the duo will still be Hibees come the midnight transfer deadline on Monday, adding he made a “judgement call” to leave them out of the starting line up
Maybe just to spite any scouts watching...
Not even sure if scouts are allowed into games right now as they can’t travel etc or is it essential work ?!!
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 07:01 PM
Hearts in for another winger after Gineley is ruled out for the remainder of the season.
Greencore
30-01-2021, 07:14 PM
Went on one of the Birmingham forums last night to see what they were saying about Kevin. One said he is not counting the goals he scored at league 1 and championship level as the teams in these leagues are barely English conference level.
Another reason why I want us to put up the fee, thinking they can just hand us 2 million and that will be it..
Bare in mind Steven whittaker moved to rangers for 2 million and that was so many years ago.
Went on one of the Birmingham forums last night to see what they were saying about Kevin. One said he is not counting the goals he scored at league 1 and championship level as the teams in these leagues are barely English conference level.
Another reason why I want us to put up the fee, thinking they can just hand us 2 million and that will be it..
Bare in mind Steven whittaker moved to rangers for 2 million and that was so many years ago.
A more direct comparison. Kenny Miller scored 12 goals for us in 45 appearances & we sold him for £2m 20 years ago!!
Callum_62
30-01-2021, 07:37 PM
If Nisbet manages to score in the Euros, he'd be worth at least £7.5m I'd say. To score in such a major tournament would be massive.I do wonder what our ceiling would be on fees
We could have a 10 million pound player on our hands but would anyone offer us 10million?
Surley anyone we have would be sold at 5-6 million
Particulary if we can't afford to pay them a significant payrise (like Romanov at Hearts)
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Looks like he hasn't played a single game for Stoke this season. He'll be keen to try and get a spot in the Euro squad too
Been injured, knee I believe
Jim44
30-01-2021, 07:38 PM
Is he the same as this Lindsay Liam guy that Hibbyradge probably mentioned?
That’s a bit below the belt.:greengrin
tamig
30-01-2021, 07:41 PM
I do wonder what our ceiling would be on fees
We could have a 10 million pound player on our hands but would anyone offer us 10million?
Surley anyone we have would be sold at 5-6 million
Particulary if we can't afford to pay them a significant payrise (like Romanov at Hearts)
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Romanov couldn’t afford it either - but that never stopped him. The fraudulent flucker.
calumhibee1
30-01-2021, 07:42 PM
A more direct comparison. Kenny Miller scored 12 goals for us in 45 appearances & we sold him for £2m 20 years ago!!
That’s a good point. English player fees have gone up about 10 times in the last 20 years. In Scotland players still worth the same as 20 years ago it seems
Greencore
30-01-2021, 07:50 PM
A more direct comparison. Kenny Miller scored 12 goals for us in 45 appearances & we sold him for £2m 20 years ago!!
Good point. Very good point.
whiskyhibby
30-01-2021, 07:52 PM
Apparently the sudden interest in Scottish players is due to Brexit and the need , amongst other things to be able to speak a certain standard of English, before a visa can be granted, quite a good article on this in today’s Herald.
UK based players value likely to increase in the coming months as less EU based players moving to the English leagues
so no rush to sell
SteveHFC
30-01-2021, 08:02 PM
Lindsay would be a decent signing.
bingo70
30-01-2021, 09:00 PM
Wonder if Jimmy Dunne is being considered as a replacement for Porteous if he moves on?
Jack Ross signed him for Sunderland and seemed to be linked to a couple of clubs recently but none have worked out.
Unseen work
30-01-2021, 09:01 PM
Liam Lindsay would be a fantastic addition, probably an upgrade on Porto.
Magpie
30-01-2021, 09:05 PM
I don’t think Liam Lindsay has been getting any game time for Stoke. Hearts were trying to get him on loan last January. Could be an option available?
Scouted him 3 weeks ago 😅
Since452
30-01-2021, 09:10 PM
A more direct comparison. Kenny Miller scored 12 goals for us in 45 appearances & we sold him for £2m 20 years ago!!
I suddenly feel very old. That seems like yesterday.
mayo hibee
30-01-2021, 09:19 PM
Wonder if Jimmy Dunne is being considered as a replacement for Porteous if he moves on?
Jack Ross signed him for Sunderland and seemed to be linked to a couple of clubs recently but none have worked out.
Would be an excellent signing but a few Championship clubs interested in him apparently. Has played (and scored) in the EPL this season. Lindsay would be a more realistic target than Dunne.
bingo70
30-01-2021, 09:22 PM
Would be an excellent signing but a few Championship clubs interested in him apparently. Has played (and scored) in the EPL this season. Lindsay would be a more realistic target than Dunne.
Really?
I thought a move to PNE fell through but couldn’t see anything else happening.
tamig
30-01-2021, 09:29 PM
Really?
I thought a move to PNE fell through but couldn’t see anything else happening.
He’s still at Burnley and played and scored for them after the last season resumed in the summer. Don’t think he’s been involved much with the first team this season though.
killie-hibby
30-01-2021, 09:47 PM
Apparently the sudden interest in Scottish players is due to Brexit and the need , amongst other things to be able to speak a certain standard of English, before a visa can be granted, quite a good article on this in today’s Herald.
UK based players value likely to increase in the coming months as less EU based players moving to the English leagues
so no rush to sell
Yep.The National printed the same or similar article today.. Unless absolutely desperate for funds, Scottish clubs should wait until at least the end of this season before selling.
04Sauzee
30-01-2021, 09:56 PM
Birmingham linked with 3m striker...
Birmingham City are showing an interest in Pacos de Ferreira striker Douglas Tanque, with Blues ‘willing to pay £3m’ claims Richard Wilford.
Birmingham City manager Aitor Karanka has been on the lookout for a new striker in this transfer window, and he could be about to find that striker as we approach Monday’s 11pm deadline.
Journalist Richard Wilford tweeted earlier today:
The Green Sea
31-01-2021, 07:17 AM
Apparently the sudden interest in Scottish players is due to Brexit and the need , amongst other things to be able to speak a certain standard of English, before a visa can be granted, quite a good article on this in today’s Herald.
UK based players value likely to increase in the coming months as less EU based players moving to the English leagues
so no rush to sell
This would be great for Scottish football. Great for the clubs as it would help the finances and great for the national team if these players can kick on to the Premier League.
Crunchie
31-01-2021, 07:26 AM
Maybe just to spite any scouts watching...
Not even sure if scouts are allowed into games right now as they can’t travel etc or is it essential work ?!!
Good call and hope your'e right, it would suggest we're determined to hold onto them.
houstonhibbee
31-01-2021, 07:36 AM
Just close the window now please :panic::panic:
FilipinoHibs
31-01-2021, 08:31 AM
Good call and hope your'e right, it would suggest we're determined to hold onto them.
Think it was more to do with their heads being spun by all the transfer talk. Porto needed dropped anyway at least least one match losing mistake a game.
flash
31-01-2021, 08:34 AM
Think it was more to do with their heads being spun by all the transfer talk. Porto needed dropped anyway at least least one match losing mistake a game.
I know it's only words but I much prefer rested to dropped.
Greenworld
31-01-2021, 08:56 AM
Birmingham linked with 3m striker...
Birmingham City are showing an interest in Pacos de Ferreira striker Douglas Tanque, with Blues ‘willing to pay £3m’ claims Richard Wilford.
Birmingham City manager Aitor Karanka has been on the lookout for a new striker in this transfer window, and he could be about to find that striker as we approach Monday’s 11pm deadline.
Journalist Richard Wilford tweeted earlier today:3 million and Nisbet will be wheeling his way down to Birmingham. Interestingly the manager [ Birmingham manager]indicated others were interested in Nisbet i wonder if other offers have been made for him.
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Squealing pig
31-01-2021, 08:58 AM
Think cosgrove and nisbit would be a decent partnership tbh hopefully never find out though
hibee-boys
31-01-2021, 09:03 AM
I wonder if this is championship clubs spending some of the interest free loans recently mentioned in the press which were being supported by the EPL. Spending up to £3million on Nisbet would seem a good investment, if he’s able to contribute even a reasonable number of goals in the championship his value will triple within a year, loan repaid with a tidy profit.
JimBHibees
31-01-2021, 09:06 AM
Liam Lindsay would be a fantastic addition, probably an upgrade on Porto.
Very left sided so doesn't sound like a direct replacement very unusual to have 2 left centre backs I think.
bingo70
31-01-2021, 09:10 AM
Very left sided so doesn't sound like a direct replacement very unusual to have 2 left centre backs I think.
Are you sure?
I’ve never seen him play before but Transfermrkt he’s right footed?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-lindsay/profil/spieler/228912
Since452
31-01-2021, 09:11 AM
Think it was more to do with their heads being spun by all the transfer talk. Porto needed dropped anyway at least least one match losing mistake a game.
Finally someone else says it
SMAXXA
31-01-2021, 09:25 AM
Think it was more to do with their heads being spun by all the transfer talk. Porto needed dropped anyway at least least one match losing mistake a game.
He has 2 match losing mistake a game am I reading this right? If so complete bollox
JimBHibees
31-01-2021, 09:27 AM
Are you sure?
I’ve never seen him play before but Transfermrkt he’s right footed?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-lindsay/profil/spieler/228912
Possible I am mixing him up with someone else looked left footed when played with Barnsley maybe not or was playing left and could play either.
flash
31-01-2021, 09:28 AM
Are you sure?
I’ve never seen him play before but Transfermrkt he’s right footed?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-lindsay/profil/spieler/228912
Definitely left sided.
flash
31-01-2021, 09:29 AM
Very left sided so doesn't sound like a direct replacement very unusual to have 2 left centre backs I think.
If we play 3 at the back then presumably the middle guy could be left or right footed or preferably comfortable with both.
JimBHibees
31-01-2021, 09:43 AM
If we play 3 at the back then presumably the middle guy could be left or right footed or preferably comfortable with both.
Absolutely we did it with Hanlon and Fontaine
Very left sided so doesn't sound like a direct replacement very unusual to have 2 left centre backs I think.
It is but we've done it before with Paul H & Liam Fontaine. Paul H is always the one to move to the right as Liam was not comfortable on his right side. Similarly, as per last week, if we play 2 right sided central defenders then Porto moves to left as Darren is less comfortable on that side. Right & left is better IMO.
JimBHibees
31-01-2021, 09:46 AM
It is but we've done it before with Paul H & Liam Fontaine. Paul H is always the one to move to the right as Liam was not comfortable on his right side. Similarly, as per last week, if we play 2 right sided central defenders then Porto moves to left as Darren is less comfortable on that side. Right & left is better IMO.
Agree with all of that.
bingo70
31-01-2021, 10:01 AM
Swindon trying to do a deal for Liam Lindsay according to Alan Nixon.
Wonder if we’re not letting Porteous go until we’ve found a replacement?
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 10:05 AM
Are you sure?
I’ve never seen him play before but Transfermrkt he’s right footed?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-lindsay/profil/spieler/228912
A little but here why he was dropped for a certain Adam Jackson
https://www.barnsleychronicle.com/article/14685/liam-dropped-after-50-starts-to-have-right-and-left-footers
Gmack7
31-01-2021, 10:06 AM
Swindon trying to do a deal for Liam Lindsay according to Alan Nixon.
Wonder if we’re not letting Porteous go until we’ve found a replacement?
Has it been reported anywhere that we are in for him?
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 10:09 AM
Has it been reported anywhere that we are in for him?
Was reported we were interested if Porteous left.
Millwall fans seem to think Porteous deal ofnthe table now they have had a bid accepted for the Derby boy.
The Derby boy does however seem to be a CDM who can play as a CB.
Winston Ingram
31-01-2021, 10:27 AM
Wonder if Jimmy Dunne is being considered as a replacement for Porteous if he moves on?
Jack Ross signed him for Sunderland and seemed to be linked to a couple of clubs recently but none have worked out.
He was on the bench in Burnley’s last game. Way out of our price range.
Just_Jimmy
31-01-2021, 10:28 AM
I'd rather keep both.
we'll never see the money properly go back into the team so I'm not interested in selling a top striker at our level who still has almost 4 years left on his deal, or a future Scotland captain who is Hibs daft, right now.
someone mentioned giving the money to Newell... no thanks. if it's a choice between keeping porto and nesbitt or Newell is a no brainer.
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Has it been reported anywhere that we are in for him?
It's in Football League news from yesterday
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 10:53 AM
Fraser Hornby agrees Aberdeen loan deal as Derek McInnes secures the No.9 he's been searching for | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/dVKEJyA4mR https://t.co/giUz5CEK1D
Magpie
31-01-2021, 10:58 AM
Fraser Hornby agrees Aberdeen loan deal as Derek McInnes secures the No.9 he's been searching for | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/dVKEJyA4mR https://t.co/giUz5CEK1D
Haven’t seen much of him but others seem to think he’s a good player. A step up from Cosgrove?
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 10:59 AM
There’s a bit of doubt over George Evans move to Millwall after Krystien Bielik’s injury. Derby County accepted a bid north of £500k yesterday. But Bielik’s injury could scupper that if the Rams can’t find alternatives. #dcfcfans #bbcfootball https://t.co/4daydIV***
mayo hibee
31-01-2021, 11:01 AM
Haven’t seen much of him but others seem to think he’s a good player. A step up from Cosgrove?
Unproven. Prolific at underage level for Scotland but hasn't yet backed it up in senior football.
Fraser Hornby agrees Aberdeen loan deal as Derek McInnes secures the No.9 he's been searching for | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/dVKEJyA4mR https://t.co/giUz5CEK1D
Amazing how quickly Aberdeen manage to get a player on board.
MWHIBBIES
31-01-2021, 11:03 AM
Amazing how quickly Aberdeen manage to get a player on board.
It is no quicker than us, you just don't hear about it since you aren't on their messageboards etc.
Brightside
31-01-2021, 11:03 AM
Amazing how quickly Aberdeen manage to get a player on board.
He was offered to us too. But we aren’t going to sign anyone unless Niz goes. Dons sold their player quickly.
Dalianwanda
31-01-2021, 11:04 AM
Amazing how quickly Aberdeen manage to get a player on board.
Maybe he was desperate to leave where he was?
Heisenberg
31-01-2021, 11:07 AM
Roughly £3m in for Nisbet according to the Sun. Final offer from Birmingham apparently.
ancient hibee
31-01-2021, 11:08 AM
Amazing how quickly Aberdeen manage to get a player on board.
And then have to offload just as quickly.
skyehibee
31-01-2021, 11:08 AM
The sun reporting Birmingham upped their final bid for Nisbet to £3m
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 11:08 AM
Birmingham City boss Aitor Karanka says the club will continue to pursue Hibernian forward Kevin Nisbet even if they complete an expected move for Aberdeen’s Sam Cosgrove - as he gave an ominous warning the Blues were not the only side in for the Easter Road favourite
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 11:09 AM
The sun reporting Birmingham upped their final bid for Nisbet to £3m
I don't think we turn down 3m unfortunately
Magpie
31-01-2021, 11:11 AM
Roughly £3m in for Nisbet according to the Sun. Final offer from Birmingham apparently.
I think that will seal the deal. But I don’t think Hibs will sell without a replacement.
MWHIBBIES
31-01-2021, 11:12 AM
I don't think we turn down 3m unfortunately
totally depends on the sructure and bonuses. I actually think we will turn it down, unless the player forces the move.
Northernhibee
31-01-2021, 11:13 AM
I’d take £3m tbh.
FilipinoHibs
31-01-2021, 11:13 AM
He has 2 match losing mistake a game am I reading this right? If so complete bollox
At least one means it can be one or more. Last two games he played. Lost Morelos and the Saint's players for their goals. Ball watching instead of staying with the man. Usually at least one in every match where he is last man and instead of passing tries to beat opposition forward. Highly risky.
FilipinoHibs
31-01-2021, 11:15 AM
I’d take £3m tbh.
He's gone with that money on the table.
Ronniekirk
31-01-2021, 11:15 AM
I don't think we turn down 3m unfortunately
I still don’t think the player will want to move in this window
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neil7908
31-01-2021, 11:17 AM
I’d take £3m tbh.
Agreed.
Callum_62
31-01-2021, 11:18 AM
I still don’t think the player will want to move in this window
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEven for a £x,xxx payrise per week?
I'm sure he will be tempted
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Northernhibee
31-01-2021, 11:20 AM
Even for a £x,xxx payrise per week?
I'm sure he will be tempted
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I also think with so much having changed for him personally he may feel differently about a move. I don’t want to speculate about it any more than that but if he did want to go down south I’d wish him well and look out for how he’s doing. The lure of becoming an established international with the chance to work his way into the EPL may be a big draw.
Del Boy
31-01-2021, 11:21 AM
£3m is a good offer, take it.
GloryGlory
31-01-2021, 11:21 AM
The sun reporting Birmingham upped their final bid for Nisbet to £3m
That could be something like £750k up front and the rest in instalments based on appearances, goals, caps, etc for all anyone on here knows.
Heisenberg
31-01-2021, 11:22 AM
£3m would be the second biggest fee we’ve received for a player I think? McGinn probably close if you take into account add ons etc. If they are offering £3m plus some add ons I don’t see anything else but him going.
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 11:23 AM
That could be something like £750k up front and the rest in instalments based on appearances, goals, caps, etc for all anyone on here knows.
If it is we wouldn't accept it
If we accept it then that's not the way the bid will have been structured.
Magpie
31-01-2021, 11:24 AM
If there are other clubs with genuine interest then perhaps a bidding war may start, hopefully we get as much as possible if he and the club are happy with the offer. Will be sad to see him go. Will be difficult to get an equal replacement this late in the window with big games coming thick and fast.
MWHIBBIES
31-01-2021, 11:24 AM
£3m would be the second biggest fee we’ve received for a player I think? McGinn probably close if you take into account add ons etc. If they are offering £3m plus some add ons I don’t see anything else but him going.
Fletcher was 3m and we made various addons.
Paloschi
31-01-2021, 11:26 AM
If £3m is the offer I would take it. Maybe include a sell on %. I really like Kevin but he isn’t worth £3m yet imo and it’s almost £2.7m in profit in transfer fees after 6 months!
Use some of the money to get Shankland perhaps or a loan for Griffiths or even go in for both. I would also like to extend Jackson Irvine’s contract.
Sean1875
31-01-2021, 11:27 AM
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BegbieHSC
31-01-2021, 11:28 AM
£3m is decent, but I reckon we could get more in the summer if he’s keen to go, and if we don’t get a decent replacement, accepting it could be a disaster for our season.
Still a no from me.
Jones28
31-01-2021, 11:30 AM
£3m and replace him LG and it’s a deal.
Vault Boy
31-01-2021, 11:33 AM
In the current climate, making that kind of a profit from a player in half a season is probably too lucrative to turn down.
Naturally I'd like him to stay a bit longer, fire us into Europe, and go for £5m in the summer - but there's absolutely no guarantee that any of that happens.
If we reject it, I'd be happy. If we accept it and sign an adept replacement, I'd also be happy. Easier said than done, of course.
we are hibs
31-01-2021, 11:34 AM
3 million fair enough but it depends on the quality of the replacement we bring in. We cant let him go and not replace him.
ElginHibbie
31-01-2021, 11:36 AM
totally depends on the sructure and bonuses. I actually think we will turn it down, unless the player forces the move.
As Ross said we don’t need to sell, so if we do either offer is crazy or the player is gonna make it clear they want to move
At this moment even if there is a £3 mil bid for Nisbet I still think Porto more likely to leave
Percy Vere
31-01-2021, 11:38 AM
totally depends on the sructure and bonuses. I actually think we will turn it down, unless the player forces the move.
Apparently Nisbet not desperate to move.
£3m is tempting but who do we replace him with?
If a deal is done has to be significant sell on clause.
Also Dunfermline will be getting a fair bit.
MikeyS
31-01-2021, 11:38 AM
If there are other clubs with genuine interest then perhaps a bidding war may start, hopefully we get as much as possible if he and the club are happy with the offer. Will be sad to see him go. Will be difficult to get an equal replacement this late in the window with big games coming thick and fast.
Think bidding wars are a thing of the past. If 3million is accepted then other clubs won't need to up their offer to us. Its all about giving the player the highest wage after that point.
Percy Vere
31-01-2021, 11:39 AM
If there are other clubs with genuine interest then perhaps a bidding war may start, hopefully we get as much as possible if he and the club are happy with the offer. Will be sad to see him go. Will be difficult to get an equal replacement this late in the window with big games coming thick and fast.
West Ham mentioned. That would be a better move fir him. Birmingham struggling in the Championship. But I hope he stays.
H18 SFR
31-01-2021, 11:39 AM
At £3,000,000 in the current landscape financially, I’d bite their ****ing hand off.
Since452
31-01-2021, 11:44 AM
At £3,000,000 in the current landscape financially, I’d bite their ****ing hand off.
Mental money
H18 SFR
31-01-2021, 11:48 AM
Mental money
Whoever is negotiating that deal on our behalf (assuming it is accurate in the main) deserves a pat on the back.
Squealing pig
31-01-2021, 11:50 AM
Gotta attract players If deal goes through , come to hibs , play well for 6 months, get big money move.
Hibbyradge
31-01-2021, 11:59 AM
£3m with a good sell on clause and it's a deal.
WhileTheChief..
31-01-2021, 12:01 PM
Mental money
Yup, if it’s a straight up £3m we’ve got to take it. No faffing around with add-ons.
Mr. Wonderful
31-01-2021, 12:01 PM
Apparently Nisbet not desperate to move.
£3m is tempting but who do we replace him with?
If a deal is done has to be significant sell on clause.
Also Dunfermline will be getting a fair bit.
He's keen for the move.
Jim44
31-01-2021, 12:02 PM
Apparently Nisbet not desperate to move.
£3m is tempting but who do we replace him with?
If a deal is done has to be significant sell on clause.
Also Dunfermline will be getting a fair bit.
Depends on which rumours you believe. I heard the exact opposite.
Stanton Spence
31-01-2021, 12:05 PM
Looks like the 3 million figure has a lot of fans packing his bags for him. I'd still like us to keep him and can only see him improving but if his head is turned then it's just a matter of getting the best price we can and moving on
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Spudster
31-01-2021, 12:06 PM
Browsing transfermarkt I noticed that Jack Harper who started at Real Madrid is coming out of contract.
DarlingtonHibee
31-01-2021, 12:08 PM
£3m with a good sell on clause and it's a deal.
Agreed
Winston Ingram
31-01-2021, 12:09 PM
£3m is outstanding money
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 12:14 PM
Browsing transfermarkt I noticed that Jack Harper who started at Real Madrid is coming out of contract.
Hasn't scored a goal in 2 years
pacoluna
31-01-2021, 12:15 PM
Buy nisbet knowing we will sell, let Jason cummings go to dundee without approaching, McNulty to dundee United and we are left with doidge and a young untested striker.
Not good planning.
cameronw-hfc
31-01-2021, 12:15 PM
Browsing transfermarkt I noticed that Jack Harper who started at Real Madrid is coming out of contract.
Frighteningly talented football player, not sure about if he's got the physicality for up here despite his height. Never quite gone for him but he's always been at a decent level trying to crack it, maybe a drop down a few levels could kick start his career
BoomtownHibees
31-01-2021, 12:17 PM
Buy nisbet knowing we will sell, let Jason cummings go to dundee without approaching, McNulty to dundee United and we are left with doidge and a young untested striker.
Not good planning.
What a strange take on the situation
bingo70
31-01-2021, 12:18 PM
Greg Stewart would seem like another option we might turn to if we need someone in at short notice.
EVENTUALLY
31-01-2021, 12:19 PM
Kevin must stay.
How much will Dunfermline receive? How much of a dividend will Ron Gordon take? How much will an replacement cost with 2 days of the window to go with the sellers knowing Hibs are in the money.
Kevin Nisbet has 3 and a half years left on his contract. We don't need to sell. Keep him, make a statement and progress.
I've never been interested in the level of any transfer fee for any player and realize they all move on sometime but I know one thing - You never get anywhere with ordinary players. Quality counts and pays dividends all round including the feel good factor enjoyed by the support while watching the player develop and seeing his reputation soar while increasing his transfer value for a future sale.
I've never seen a pound note score a goal.
pacoluna
31-01-2021, 12:20 PM
What a strange take on the situation
How come? Nisbet was always a money maker.
If he goes we are left with doidge meanwhile two of our best strikers in the past 5 year are playing for Dundee clubs.
JimBHibees
31-01-2021, 12:20 PM
Buy nisbet knowing we will sell, let Jason cummings go to dundee without approaching, McNulty to dundee United and we are left with doidge and a young untested striker.
Not good planning.
No way we will be selling without a decent replacement imo. We wouldn't have been planning to sell however a view would be taken in terms of amount of bids coming in and having no fans in the stadium.
Hibbyradge
31-01-2021, 12:22 PM
What does it matter if it's £3m up front or installments?
Sean1875
31-01-2021, 12:22 PM
How come? Nisbet was always a money maker.
If he goes we are left with doidge meanwhile two of our best strikers in the past 5 year are playing for Dundee clubs.
So hypothetically, if we sold Nisbet and brought in JC or McNulty to replace him you’d be been happy with that? Weird.
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MWHIBBIES
31-01-2021, 12:22 PM
How come? Nisbet was always a money maker.
If he goes we are left with doidge meanwhile two of our best strikers in the past 5 year are playing for Dundee clubs.
Cummings you could maybe make a case for. McNulty is pish. Shown yesterday. 1 goal all season. Doidge is 10x the player.
BoomtownHibees
31-01-2021, 12:24 PM
How come? Nisbet was always a money maker.
If he goes we are left with doidge meanwhile two of our best strikers in the past 5 year are playing for Dundee clubs.
You think we should have brought in JC and McNulty because we were always going to sell Nisbet?
DarlingtonHibee
31-01-2021, 12:25 PM
What does it matter if it's £3m up front or installments?
Cash flow, stronger position recruitment wise
Hibs90
31-01-2021, 12:25 PM
£3m no thanks. He has 3.5 years left on his deal and is our top scorer and leaves us with very little time to try get someone else in who will score those goals.
No for me.
Lee Marvin
31-01-2021, 12:25 PM
What does it matter if it's £3m up front or installments?
It would only matter if we have a short term cashflow problem, which I suspect we do not
pacoluna
31-01-2021, 12:26 PM
So hypothetically, if we sold Nisbet and brought in JC or McNulty to replace him you’d be been happy with that? Weird.
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Nisbet was always a maker. We was never going to be long terms.
Since452
31-01-2021, 12:26 PM
How come? Nisbet was always a money maker.
If he goes we are left with doidge meanwhile two of our best strikers in the past 5 year are playing for Dundee clubs.
Malonga is at Dundee? 😉
ancient hibee
31-01-2021, 12:27 PM
Kevin must stay.
How much will Dunfermline receive? How much of a dividend will Ron Gordon take? How much will an replacement cost with 2 days of the window to go with the sellers knowing Hibs are in the money.
Kevin Nisbet has 3 and a half years left on his contract. We don't need to sell. Keep him, make a statement and progress.
I've never been interested in the level of any transfer fee for any player and realize they all move on sometime but I know one thing - You never get anywhere with ordinary players. Quality counts and pays dividends all round including the feel good factor enjoyed by the support while watching the player develop and seeing his reputation soar while increasing his transfer value for a future sale.
I've never seen a pound note score a goal.
If Ron takes a dividend all shareholders will get one.That would be a first.You can take it that it won’t happen.
hibee-boys
31-01-2021, 12:27 PM
I just can’t see Hibs turning down a bid of £3 million, especially given the current climate. And, I think that is fair value for someone who’s only had 6 months playing in a top division.
If Kevin feels happy to move then I’d expect the deal to go through at that price.
Callum_62
31-01-2021, 12:28 PM
Buy nisbet knowing we will sell, let Jason cummings go to dundee without approaching, McNulty to dundee United and we are left with doidge and a young untested striker.
Not good planning.Lol. Shows you how well there careers have progressed since leaving us
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Stanton Spence
31-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Nisbet was always a maker. We was never going to be long terms.Eh? That doesn't even make sense?
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ElginHibbie
31-01-2021, 12:30 PM
Lol. Shows you how well there careers have progressed since leaving us
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I really don’t get the Cummings obsession, if we were linked with anyone else with his record this place would be in an uproar about the lack of ambition being shown
bingo70
31-01-2021, 12:32 PM
I found see us signing Greg Stewart as a replacement for Nisbet.
S4uzee
31-01-2021, 12:32 PM
It’s a funny one for me. £3m is a good offer and if we accepted then you couldn’t blame us for doing so.
On the flipside, bar the split, our remaining fixtures are good and if he were to get back to scoring ways then he’d surely be in with a shout for the Euros then in the summer there would maybe be more interest and a bigger fee.
However, did Dundee Utd not turn down £1m for Shankland last year at this time and I doubt anyone would be bidding that now for him
Hibs90
31-01-2021, 12:34 PM
I found see us signing Greg Stewart as a replacement for Nisbet.
Absolutely not.
Winston Ingram
31-01-2021, 12:34 PM
I found see us signing Greg Stewart as a replacement for Nisbet.
Off to Sunderland apparently
EVENTUALLY
31-01-2021, 12:35 PM
If Ron takes a dividend all shareholders will get one.That would be a first.You can take it that it won’t happen.
Not a dividend as known in stock market terms, but a cut.
He can do what he likes and if he sees it as an opportunity to recoup some of his investment he will. He mentioned the SJM deal enough at the AGM to convince me that that is his game. These are the deals he wants to do but what about us. I want to watch good quality players in a Hibs jersey.
Unseen work
31-01-2021, 12:35 PM
I’d be gutted if Nisbet was to leave, Absolutley gutted especially as we haven’t even seen him live.
Don’t get me wrong I can understand why the club would accept the bid especially in the current climate.
My issue is I don’t have a clue who we could replace him with. They would need to come in and hit the ground running as were incredibly short of strikers even with Nisbet.
I suppose the promising thing is Ron will see the huge profit made on Nisbet in such a short space of time and maybe trust Ross with buying more players for money?
A bid for Shankland to test Uniteds resolve?
Louise Moult but from what I understand he’s constantly injured with his knee and has been for years so that’s a no.
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 12:36 PM
Off to Sunderland apparently
You got the right Stewart?
Winston Ingram
31-01-2021, 12:37 PM
You got the right Stewart?
Nope. I meant Ross Stewart🤣
mcfly
31-01-2021, 12:39 PM
But it’s not £3 million for hibs.
After Dunfermline get their cut it’s about £2 million. Agreed that’s a great return but it’s only great if we have a replacement that will score goals.
I’d doubt hibs will sell with no replacement- they would be crazy
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 12:40 PM
But it’s not £3 million for hibs.
After Dunfermline get their cut it’s about £2 million. Agreed that’s a great return but it’s only great if we have a replacement that will score goals.
I’d doubt hibs will sell with no replacement- they would be crazy
Not a chance Dunfermline have a 33% sell on fee
bigwheel
31-01-2021, 12:40 PM
Not a dividend as known in stock market terms, but a cut.
He can do what he likes and if he sees it as an opportunity to recoup some of his investment he will. He mentioned the SJM deal enough at the AGM to convince me that that is his game. These are the deals he wants to do but what about us. I want to watch good quality players in a Hibs jersey.
He can’t simply take income out of the company without implications ...unless he has a loan that we are paying back
04Sauzee
31-01-2021, 12:41 PM
Nope. I meant Ross Stewart🤣
To many Stuarts 😅
Brightside
31-01-2021, 12:41 PM
But it’s not £3 million for hibs.
After Dunfermline get their cut it’s about £2 million. Agreed that’s a great return but it’s only great if we have a replacement that will score goals.
I’d doubt hibs will sell with no replacement- they would be crazy
Eh?
Greenworld
31-01-2021, 12:45 PM
If £3m is the offer I would take it. Maybe include a sell on %. I really like Kevin but he isn’t worth £3m yet imo and it’s almost £2.7m in profit in transfer fees after 6 months!
Use some of the money to get Shankland perhaps or a loan for Griffiths or even go in for both. I would also like to extend Jackson Irvine’s contract.Have you seen Shankland this season no thanks
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Hope Nisbet doesn’t go this window. £3 million today could be £5 in the next window if he scores the amount he was brought in to score
Tully
31-01-2021, 12:46 PM
As someone who's lived in London for 40 years I frequently criticise my English friends for their lack of knowledge & appreciation of Scottish football. Reading through this thread since the Nisbet/Porteous bids emerged it appears there's many of our supporters who also fall into that category. The 2 clubs who have approached us are Championship clubs. Brentford are a Championship club with average gates of about 10k. In the last 2 or 3 years they've sold 4 strikers & 1 central defender for close on £90m, the lowest being £10m. That's the market to which we are selling. I'm not suggesting we'll get anything like that amount for either player but we should be looking for closer to 50% of that market value rather than 10 to 20%. I just hope the custodians of our club are better acquainted with the economics of football in the UK. Meanwhile, why don't we talk our players & their value up instead of this constant negativity about 2 outstanding prospects & their value.
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