Winter transfer thread 2020-21

[sorrow sorrow]

Porteous has improved greatly and is a top talent but suddenly after a few mistakes the likes of Kerr Guthrie Finlay etc are better players in the eyes of some!
Unbelievable

[S4uzee]

Ryan thinks he's got an unfair reputation up here now in the media and is worried it will hinder his development.

He has, doesn’t help when you have guys like Kris Boyd, Kevin Kyle, Derek Ferguson etc constantly criticising him in the media

[Ronniekirk]

What’s Andy Murray’s Management team advising him to do


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[04Sauzee]

Ryan thinks he's got an unfair reputation up here now in the media and is worried it will hinder his development.

He's a regular at Hibs and the Scotland u21 squad. He's also been in the main squad. I'm Sure his reputation is in tact

[GloryGlory]

He doesn't.

Is that you, Ryan? :greengrin

[MikeyS]

He has, doesn’t help when you have guys like Kris Boyd, Kevin Kyle, Derek Ferguson etc constantly criticising him in the media

Too true! The saying, empty vessels make the most noise, is perfect for those 3 chumps in particular.

I really can't see that Millwall is the best place for him to go though. Financially it will be good, not much else going for it though.

[JimBHibees]

He’s getting a far harder time than he deserves on here. He’s made some **** ups, no doubt about it, but he’s also been an integral part of the defence who has a lot of clean sheets this season. Only 3 teams have conceded less goals, one of them (Aberdeen) has conceded only one less, but played a game less too.

Porto was called into the Scotland squad this season, not Kerr, not Guthrie. Porto is the apparent target of a million pound bid from the Championship, not Kerr or Guthrie who would be far easier to get. Still though, Hibs fans love to stick the boot into one of their own.

Agree a lot of the chat has been too critical as he has huge potential and personally would be reluctant to sell. Still young and a bit impulsive but already a very good player and will only get better.

[Dmas]

Porteous has improved greatly and is a top talent but suddenly after a few mistakes the likes of Kerr Guthrie Finlay etc are better players in the eyes of some!
Unbelievable

No ones said there better though have they? They’ve been offered up as players to go for if Ryan leaves

[Dmas]

Agree a lot of the chat has been too critical as he has huge potential and personally would be reluctant to sell. Still young and a bit impulsive but already a very good player and will only get better.

Not quite true though is it, I can remember Hanlon being linked with moves down south as a youngster didn’t materialise and he didn’t improve greatly still a good Hibs level player like Ryan is but there are no guarentee’s he’ll improve on what he already is, Injury record as well may come into effect every time the guy goes down I think that’s the end of him

[sorrow sorrow]

No ones said there better though have they? They’ve been offered up as players to go for if Ryan leaves

You sure about that?
I’ve seen plenty comments saying otherwise

[A Hi-Bee]

He has, doesn’t help when you have guys like Kris Boyd, Kevin Kyle, Derek Ferguson etc constantly criticising him in the media

The hun and sometimes worse the ex-hun are a breed to be shunned and ignored at best, **** them.
:thumbsup:

[Mr. Wonderful]

Because there hasnt been one made.

Suit yersel mate. The other info in my initial post is looking good if rumours are correct so I don't have any doubts there'll be truth to that one too but I've put my head above the parapet with that info and scrutiny will come with that.

[Mr. Wonderful]

What’s Andy Murray’s Management team advising him to do


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Majority of the top pros in our team have taken the gamble to go play at a higher level with more wages and the ones who haven't have openly said they regret not doing so (lewy) so I'd imagine the advice will be similar.

If Dempster was still here I'm not so sure we'd all be having this debate though.

[Mr. Wonderful]

He's a regular at Hibs and the Scotland u21 squad. He's also been in the main squad. I'm Sure his reputation is in tact

I think so too but he's worried about it

[Dmas]

You sure about that?
I’ve seen plenty comments saying otherwise

4 pages back I've seen one person say he rated Kerr as good as Porto, how far back do I need to go before all these posts are found?

[A Hi-Bee]

I think so too but he's worried about it

Unless he wants to one day end up at the Sticky Buns what has he to worry about, the west coast media are a bunch o A-Holes. Ryan will be sound and if he feels he has to go then I am sure he will go with the best wishes of the vast majority of Hi-Bees.
:thumbsup:

[JimBHibees]

He has, doesn’t help when you have guys like Kris Boyd, Kevin Kyle, Derek Ferguson etc constantly criticising him in the media

What was the team they chumps all played for? Also Gerrard and media going out when he was sent off after winning the ball v barisic. Compare and contrast with Morelos gets away with thuggery regularly

[J-C]

Dont see why media reputation would hinder his development? I doubt trying to escape his reputation will do his career many favours.

Referees and media jumping on everything he does rightly or wrongly.

[JimBHibees]

Not quite true though is it, I can remember Hanlon being linked with moves down south as a youngster didn’t materialise and he didn’t improve greatly still a good Hibs level player like Ryan is but there are no guarentee’s he’ll improve on what he already is, Injury record as well may come into effect every time the guy goes down I think that’s the end of him

That is only my opinion of course

[JimBHibees]

He doesn't.

Don't blame him or any player to be honest.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

A lot of people placing a lot of credibility on a Millwall podcast. As someone who lives a few miles from their ground I can assure you the average Millwall fan's knowledge of Scottish football is zero. Looks like this guy's just regurgitating rumours.

yup they really are something else. Can remember being with my wife so would have been around 2000 at New Cross Gate and to guys - would have been father and son 50s 70s long after the match had finished and they heard my Scottish accent and asked whether I supported Rangers or Celtic - I knew of the hibstory when we went down 89/90? but thought I’m not gonna shirk saying who I support and plus they’re of a sensible age and I’m here with my wife... well ‘your guys came in mob handed smashed up our place and we weren’t even there...’ all quite passive aggressive stuff. I’d think better of it the next time... to balance that tho one of my wife’s colleagues was quite protective of her with one of the sleazy guys in the office - ‘jussi say the word and I’ll knock him out’ ��

[Orchard_Hibs]

Referees and media jumping on everything he does rightly or wrongly.

The media being all over Ryan is only a good thing, it means he’s standing out, yes they may be critical but that’s only because he is standing out in the first place. How much media coverage does Kerr get?

[Andy74]

Referees and media jumping on everything he does rightly or wrongly.

Does he strike you as someone that would take a blind bit of notice of that? He goes through games being quite happy with confrontation and laughing about it.

As a tough centre half I don't think worrying about what people are saying about him is high up the list of things that will impact his development.

As it happens I don't think much does get said about him and in fact most commentators and pundits have been saying how well he has adapted his game to cut back on some of the daft things he used to do more regularly.

[superfurryhibby]

I think so too but he's worried about it

Tell him to man up and not to let those bassas grind him down. He should be staying at Hibs and improving as a player here. If he does, he'll get a better move than Millwall. Plus London is rife with the Covid

[zitelli62]

The fact the weegie press talk about him means he's doing his job and getting under there skin and they don't like it **** them the more they talk about Ryan the more he is getting to them I only hope one day and make no mistake they would love him he never ends up at that s****hole of a place.

[jonny]

JR said in his interview that interest in Porto and Nisbet has stepped up in the last 48 hours but isn't expecting anything imminent. At the moment both trained today and are in tomorrow's squad.
It would appear on the face of it that the tweet from EFL Hub wasn't quite accurate and that we haven't accepted any bids.... yet...

[Radium]

https://youtu.be/gTFipAY8OSw

News conference, doesn’t seem to add anything


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[Unseen work]

Enough about who might be leaving, what rumours are there about players coming in?

[JohnM1875]

Enough about who might be leaving, what rumours are there about players coming in?

Nothing. And Ross said he doesn't think it likely we'll be adding any more bodies.

[S4uzee]

What was the team they chumps all played for? Also Gerrard and media going out when he was sent off after winning the ball v barisic. Compare and contrast with Morelos gets away with thuggery regularly

Particularly when Kevin Kyle has previously said how the media got to him etc when Scotland drew with the Faroes.

Suppose it’s what happens when halfwits like them are in the media. Trying to turn people against a young Scottish player

[Stuart93]

Nothing. And Ross said he doesn't think it likely we'll be adding any more bodies.

Not great news that. I reckon we still need a CB and a striker without anyone leaving

[MikeyS]

Nothing. And Ross said he doesn't think it likely we'll be adding any more bodies.

I think that'll have just been to get out the press conference quicker (if it came from there). No danger we aren't replacing either of them if they go. Would be madness with an already small squad.

[MikeyS]

Particularly when Kevin Kyle has previously said how the media got to him etc when Scotland drew with the Faroes.

Suppose it’s what happens when halfwits like them are in the media. Trying to turn people against a young Scottish player

Kevin Kyle doesn't strike me as the brightest of people, ge probably doesn't even see the similarities in his words and those he is quick to say hammered him as a youngster.

[JimBHibees]

https://youtu.be/gTFipAY8OSw

News conference, doesn’t seem to add anything


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My reading of the way he answered the questions would be that someone is leaving but that is obviously a hunch.

Good news Joe Newell back in the squad.

[JimBHibees]

I think that'll have just been to get out the press conference quicker (if it came from there). No danger we aren't replacing either of them if they go. Would be madness with an already small squad.

Yep didn't believe that think players will come in irrespective of anyone going out.

[04Sauzee]

I think that'll have just been to get out the press conference quicker (if it came from there). No danger we aren't replacing either of them if they go. Would be madness with an already small squad.
I think he said we had potential back ups in place if they move on. I'm aure he said if nobody went out then it was more than likely we wouldn't be adding anybody to the squad.

[bingo70]

I think he said we had potential back ups in place if they move on. I'm aure he said if nobody went out then it was more than likely we wouldn't be adding anybody to the squad.

I want to be annoyed at that as I don’t think we’re very good just now but I said the other day I think we’re fine for numbers.

Back up striker to put a bit more pressure on the front two would be my preference if we’re signing anybody but I think the biggest priority is finding a system that suits the players we already have.

I don’t agree we need another centre half, unless we sell Porteous then we’ll need to replace him.

[04Sauzee]

Adding experience to the middle of the park.

Welcome to Motherwell, @Sam_Foley 👍

https://t.co/ybpBgpnfjx https://t.co/AKeFJqgfQm

[Hibs90]

Gullan potentially out on loan for remainder of season IF Hibs can add a striker. Apparently anyway.

[Gaffer1875]

Garry O’Connor saying in a Hibs Facebook group (i know) that Hibs should sell Nesbit and buy LG, glad he’s not in charge of Hibs!


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[MWHIBBIES]

Garry O’Connor saying in a Hibs Facebook group (i know) that Hibs should sell Nesbit and buy LG, glad he’s not in charge of Hibs!


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Griffiths is on far, far more than Hibs have ever payed a player. There is no way we are getting him. O'Connor is certainly a bit thick, though.

[Stuart93]

Gullan potentially out on loan for remainder of season IF Hibs can add a striker. Apparently anyway.

Feel a bit sorry for the lad, I’d have definitely gave him more of a chance so far

[bigwheel]

Feel a bit sorry for the lad, I’d have definitely gave him more of a chance so far

Think he has deserved more game time that’s for sure ...it’s not as if the others have been setting the world on fire recently ...

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen could turn to Scotland U21 ace Fraser Hornby as replacement for outgoing Sam Cosgrove

https://t.co/yJbw06f7ID https://t.co/dUTswigSKL

[Hibiza]

Doidge / Nisbet / Boyle over the last month or so , gave been very very poor.

[Alfred E Newman]

Aberdeen could turn to Scotland U21 ace Fraser Hornby as replacement for outgoing Sam Cosgrove

https://t.co/yJbw06f7ID https://t.co/dUTswigSKL

Unless he goes off the rails.

[Unseen work]

If Gullan goes out on loan I’d like to see it be a Premiership team, even if it’s Hamilton etc so we can see what he’s like in the top flight.

Oli Shaw is now showing he’s capable of scoring goals weekly and whilst I don’t think Gullan will ever be a 20 goals a season striker, I think he’s prove to be a very good option wide left/left of a front 3 with his pace, skill and directness

[Bangkok Hibby]

Unless he goes off the rails.

He's a model professional. They've obviously been tracking him.

[bingo70]

Daily record reporting that Birmingham have increased their offer for Nisbet.

Apparently they want him and Cosgrove.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ngers-23405760

[04Sauzee]

Daily record reporting that Birmingham have increased their offer for Nisbet.

Apparently they want him and Cosgrove.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ngers-23405760
Link not working mate

[bingo70]

Link not working mate

I don’t care, I’ve already read it 😂

Nah, it’s just the daily record transfer blog and doesn’t say any more than I did in my post, sure someone else will be able to do the honours with a proper working link before too long.

[Unseen work]

Ourselves and Aberdeen supposedly interested in Fraser Hornby, with Aberdeen ‘launching’ a big to get him on loan.

[04Sauzee]

Ourselves and Aberdeen supposedly interested in Fraser Hornby, with Aberdeen ‘launching’ a big to get him on loan.

Was hoping Hibs woul get Hornby on loan last season. His move hasn't worked out well in France. Think Aberdeen will be a good few steps ahead with cosgrove about to be announced by Birmingham

[Stanton Spence]

If Gullan goes out on loan I’d like to see it be a Premiership team, even if it’s Hamilton etc so we can see what he’s like in the top flight.

Oli Shaw is now showing he’s capable of scoring goals weekly and whilst I don’t think Gullan will ever be a 20 goals a season striker, I think he’s prove to be a very good option wide left/left of a front 3 with his pace, skill and directnessI would definitely like to see him playing every week mate but the problem with staying in the Premier with clubs like Hamilton is how much will he see of the fitbaw and get to show his skill set while playing the majority of the game on the back foot and defending

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[bingo70]

Was hoping Hibs woul get Hornby on loan last season. His move hasn't worked out well in France. Think Aberdeen will be a good few steps ahead with cosgrove about to be announced by Birmingham

I think he’d be a good signing for Aberdeen but I hope we don’t go for him.

He’s a big lump of a forward from what i have seen. Good and effective in the air but if we’re replacing Nisbet I want someone a quick, mobile, scorer of great goals and have a good exciting and exotic name.

[CMurdoch]

Unless he goes off the rails.

He's good at training :greengrin.

Played only 12 league games in Belgium last season and only 3 in France so far this season.
Has done Brussel Sprout in his career to date to warrant going to Aberdeen or Hibs.
Playing for Scotland U21's is no big deal.
Making your way in the mens game is a world apart and many many better players before him have been unable to bridge the gap.

[Nicho87]

Jason Cummings could replace Nisbet

[04Sauzee]

Jason Cummings could replace Nisbet

He signed for Dundee yesterday

[Lago]

Jason Cummings could replace Nisbet
Where have you been for the last 24hrs?

[Stuart93]

If nisbets missing tomorrow he’s away. Same for Porteous

[JohnM1875]

If nisbets missing tomorrow he’s away. Same for Porteous

If they're not in the squad totally agree.

If they don't start I'm not so sure. Ross said in the pre match conference it's down to him and it's his job to see if they're mentally ready to play the game tomorrow. 🤞 Nisbet does!

[BT58]

Thot Porto was injured against The Rangers ??
B

[04Sauzee]

Thot Porto was injured against The Rangers ??
B

Jack Ross said that this weekend could be the first weekend we have nobody on the treatment table.

[GordonHFC]

Jack Ross said that this weekend could be the first weekend we have nobody on the treatment table.

Yep. Coz we've sold everyone.

[Brightside]

I think he’d be a good signing for Aberdeen but I hope we don’t go for him.

He’s a big lump of a forward from what i have seen. Good and effective in the air but if we’re replacing Nisbet I want someone a quick, mobile, scorer of great goals and have a good exciting and exotic name.

Hornby is top class. I’d love to have him at Hibs.

[bingo70]

Hornby is top class. I’d love to have him at Hibs.

He’s not played enough games at senior level to be considered top class.

I’d like to sign him if we ever sell Doidge but not to replace Nisbet.

[Billy Whizz]

Hornby is top class. I’d love to have him at Hibs.

Him and Doidge isn’t a pairing

[Brightside]

Him and Doidge isn’t a pairing

I don’t disagree. He’s better in a 3.

[Heisenberg]

Bit of an odd one for Aberdeen

https://twitter.com/andrewmaclean_/status/1355244821305315329?s=21

[04Sauzee]

Him and Doidge isn’t a pairing

They dont have to be

[04Sauzee]

Bit of an odd one for Aberdeen

https://twitter.com/andrewmaclean_/status/1355244821305315329?s=21

Surely that wouldn't be their Cosgrove replacement?

[bingo70]

Bit of an odd one for Aberdeen

https://twitter.com/andrewmaclean_/status/1355244821305315329?s=21

Has anyone checked on Aberdeen.net to see if they’re ok?

[Sean1875]

Bit of an odd one for Aberdeen

https://twitter.com/andrewmaclean_/status/1355244821305315329?s=21

Aberdeen are skint, the money they get from Cosgrove will pretty much all be going towards covering costs, not entirely surprising this is the market they’re going for now.


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[madhatter]

Doubt Doig will play tomorrow. I’d be surprised if he can keep his head straight - he seems too excited about the rumours in his interview.

[04Sauzee]

Has anyone checked on Aberdeen.net to see if they’re ok?
😂

[et_hibby]

He's a model professional. They've obviously been tracking him.

The signals have been pointing that way. Locomotiv Moscow may also express an interest.

[Unseen work]

Bit of an odd one for Aberdeen

https://twitter.com/andrewmaclean_/status/1355244821305315329?s=21

I rate him in fairness, think he’s been injured the majority of this season.

Strong, quick and can score when he gets the chance.

Doubt he’d suit Aberdeen’s style though.

[Unseen work]

Doubt Doig will play tomorrow. I’d be surprised if he can keep his head straight - he seems too excited about the rumours in his interview.

I really liked his interview. Seems a really down to earth lad who is loving life and full of confidence.

Think he’ll be taking the rumours with a pinch of salt as like he said it’s just Twitter chat.

[brog]

I rate him in fairness, think he’s been injured the majority of this season.

Strong, quick and can score when he gets the chance.

Doubt he’d suit Aberdeen’s style though.

He's a bit of a nutter, gets more yellow cards than goals. Can't see it to be honest.

[Iain G]

Yep. Coz we've sold everyone.

Or we have sold the treatment table 😁

[Fritz]

Griffiths is on far, far more than Hibs have ever payed a player. There is no way we are getting him. O'Connor is certainly a bit thick, though.

Classy.

[Ozyhibby]

Feel a bit sorry for the lad, I’d have definitely gave him more of a chance so far

21 year old playing for Hibs?[emoji23]


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[Stuart93]

21 year old playing for Hibs?[emoji23]


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In terms of playing opportunities this season I feel sorry for him

Lifestyle and career wise absolutely not

[CMurdoch]

If nisbets missing tomorrow he’s away. Same for Porteous

Both are needing a rest so I wouldn't read anything into their absence from the starting 11.
The English teams are trying to take pandemic advantage of struggling Scottish teams but Hibs are in relatively good financial shape.
Neither player going for less than £2.5 million each. Both on long contracts and remember said English teams are hurting financially as well so don't have the finance to knock our socks off.
The bad news is they could well move on in a years time but we will have had another years service out of them and they will go for better money.

If Porteous avoids injury and progresses a little more with concentration, positioning etc he will be worth £3 million every day of every week so no point in selling him now
Nisbet is a slightly higher risk given he could lose the scoring magic. However, good strikers cost a fortune so if he continues to improve his all round game and keeps scoring, Hibs could eventually get £5 million for him. Probably worth £2 million the moment. He is on a massive long contract so best to have him scoring for us meantime and continuing his development.

The interesting part of the next few days will relate to Hibs fringe players who the club try to move out on loan to reduce our wage bill.

[Alfred E Newman]

Jack Ross said that this weekend could be the first weekend we have nobody on the treatment table.

Is it broken?

[Northernhibee]

Is it broken?

It's been sold to QPR for a fiver.

[ElginHibbie]

Is it broken?

Linked with a team down south

[Magpie]

Jack Ross said that this weekend could be the first weekend we have nobody on the treatment table.

Will be a major boost, I expect it will take a few of them a couple of weeks to get back up to speed but we should hopefully have plenty of options to choose from going into the final quarter of the season.

[Bostonhibby]

Is it broken?Got knocked out in the semi finals of the national treatment table cup and not been seen since.

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[Since452]

Jack Ross said that this weekend could be the first weekend we have nobody on the treatment table.

Sick of this. Jack Ross can't even get the treatment table working now. Petrie out!

[Feed McGraw]

Is it broken? On strike - it`s had enough ! :greengrin

[bingo70]

Josh O’Connor training with the first team today. Wonder if he could find himself on the bench if Nisbet is sold, or left out if a deal is agreed?

[04Sauzee]

Josh O’Connor training with the first team today. Wonder if he could find himself on the bench if Nisbet is sold, or left out if a deal is agreed?
Is Shanley back at Hibs with Kelty not playing?

[bingo70]

Is Shanley back at Hibs with Kelty not playing?

No idea but I assume his registration will still be with Kelly?

Not as simple as just chopping and changing between clubs I wouldn’t have thought.

[ahibby]

Jason Cummings could replace Nisbet

Every day of the week. Hee hee

[bingo70]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/birmingham-city-seal-sam-cosgrove-23411265

Posted similar earlier from the daily record transfer blog but they’re saying new bid going up to £2.25m

Offer of £1m for Porteous rejected

[Brightside]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/birmingham-city-seal-sam-cosgrove-23411265

Posted similar earlier from the daily record transfer blog but they’re saying new bid going up to £2.25m

Offer of £1m for Porteous rejected

£2.5 I hear. Higher bid in for Porto too. Some chat that Stewart has already been at Aberdeen for signing chat.

[Ronniekirk]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/birmingham-city-seal-sam-cosgrove-23411265

Posted similar earlier from the daily record transfer blog but they’re saying new bid going up to £2.25m

Offer of £1m for Porteous rejected

Usual penny pinching increasing by a a few hundred thousand
But if they keep increasing it we just might be tempted if it hits 3 million
Honestly don’t think the player himself will feel this is the right time to move on
He will get a better club in the summer if he recaptured his form again


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[Unseen work]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/birmingham-city-seal-sam-cosgrove-23411265

Posted similar earlier from the daily record transfer blog but they’re saying new bid going up to £2.25m

Offer of £1m for Porteous rejected

An extra 250k shouldn’t change anything.

I also think Nisbet and Porteous need to be more ambitious than Birmingham and Millwall.

[Alfred E Newman]

Got knocked out in the semi finals of the national treatment table cup and not been seen since.

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I heard Aberdeen were keen to take it up north.

[bingo70]

An extra 250k shouldn’t change anything.

I’d guess there’s an element of hoping the player becomes unsettled.

It shouldn’t make a difference really on paper but as soon as the players head is turned and wants to move it makes our position that little bit harder.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I heard Aberdeen were keen to take it up north.

I heard Jack Ross wants to take it to su...

Ah wait.

[Bostonhibby]

I heard Aberdeen were keen to take it up north.Been tapped up by Derek McInnes as per...

What he didn't realise is that it was the East Mains ironing board on the other end of the phone.

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[Stuart93]

If we sell both and replace with loans we’re handing 3rd to Aberdeen and 4th to livi on a plate

Struggling to think who we replace nisbet with? No one else in the UK has scored the amount of goals he has that we’d be able to bring into the club

Could be suicide by the club with ST renewals only a few months away

[B.H.F.C]

I’d guess there’s an element of hoping the player becomes unsettled.

It shouldn’t make a difference really on paper but as soon as the players head is turned and wants to move it makes our position that little bit harder.

Would reckon we’d already be at the point of him being unsettled by it, if he’s going to be unsettled. He’ll know what they’re willing to pay him and all that ,if they manage to get a bid accepted.

Maybe with his personal circumstances, he won’t be desperate to jump ship just for the money. Because I don’t think it would even be a particularly great move football wise. Same with Porteous and Milwall.

Got a feeling one of them will go. Don’t know who, just feel there’s a good chance one of them might.

[bingo70]

If we sell both and replace with loans we’re handing 3rd to Aberdeen and 4th to livi on a plate

Struggling to think who we replace nisbet with? No one else in the UK has scored the amount of goals he has that we’d be able to bring into the club

Could be suicide by the club with ST renewals only a few months away

What if they’re good loans though?

I know we’ve had a few bad ones but there’s been some good ones in there too.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

If we sell both and replace with loans we’re handing 3rd to Aberdeen and 4th to livi on a plate

Struggling to think who we replace nisbet with? No one else in the UK has scored the amount of goals he has that we’d be able to bring into the club

Could be suicide by the club with ST renewals only a few months away

What if we don't sell either? 🤷

[Stuart93]

What if they’re good loans though?

I know we’ve had a few bad ones but there’s been some good ones in there too.

Na loans can do one for me especially if it’s to replace our top assets because you’re then faced with the same problem later down the line.

If hibs think getting supporters on board for next season is selling our best players and replacing with loans then they’ll suffer for it

[bingo70]

Na loans can do one for me especially if it’s to replace our top assets because you’re then faced with the same problem later down the line.

If hibs think getting supporters on board for next season is selling our best players and replacing with loans then they’ll suffer for it

When there’s 2 days until the transfer window closes a couple of loans to keep us ticking over until we can replace them properly in the summer makes complete sense.

[sorrow sorrow]

Maybe we should just hang on to two important young players for a change.
Even if we got 3/4 million for them,what difference does that make to us,the average fan?
We will not spend the 3/4 million on new players.
Unless teams like Birmingham/ millwall offer crazy money we should just reject it if we can.
How can we ever compete if we keep selling young guys with potential?
Let’s try and build a team around these young players for a change

[Stuart93]

When there’s 2 days until the transfer window closes a couple of loans to keep us ticking over until we can replace them properly in the summer makes complete sense.

Na not for me. If the club had any idea one of our better players could be sold a list of targets should’ve been put down in front of whoever has to see them.

As I’ve said, and I realise I keep repeating myself, if the club sell off our best assets and replace them with loans, even until the summer, it’ll make up a lot of people’s minds with regards to renewing

If we can’t replace them then we don’t sell

[Greenworld]

Maybe we should just hang on to two important young players for a change.
Even if we got 3/4 million for them,what difference does that make to us,the average fan?
We will not spend the 3/4 million on new players.
Unless teams like Birmingham/ millwall offer crazy money we should just reject it if we can.
How can we ever compete if we keep selling young guys with potential?
Let’s try and build a team around these young players for a change[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] very good [emoji106]

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[sorrow sorrow]

Na not for me. If the club had any idea one of our better players could be sold a list of targets should’ve been put down in front of whoever has to see them.

As I’ve said, and I realise I keep repeating myself, if the club sell off our best assets and replace them with loans, even until the summer, it’ll make up a lot of people’s minds with regards to renewing

Yep 👍

[sorrow sorrow]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] very good [emoji106]

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And why not😂

[B.H.F.C]

Na loans can do one for me especially if it’s to replace our top assets because you’re then faced with the same problem later down the line.

If hibs think getting supporters on board for next season is selling our best players and replacing with loans then they’ll suffer for it

Loan wouldn’t be an issue for me. Would depend on the player. I don’t think the club would jump in to chucking a long term contract at anyone when there will only be 12 games left after tomorrow.

We gave Nisbet a four year deal and are potentially looking at having the problem of replacing him after six months after all. In no way am I supporting the idea of selling him though.

[Greenworld]

An extra 250k shouldn’t change anything.

I also think Nisbet and Porteous need to be more ambitious than Birmingham and Millwall.You have got to be joking if 2.25 mil is bid for Nisbet thats an incredible amount.

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[Eyrie]

You have got to be joking if 2.25 mil is bid for Nisbet thats an incredible amount.

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Incredibly low, yes.

He's young with potential to get even better, a proven goal scorer with 3.5 years left on his contract and we'll shortly be asked to pony up for season tickets that we may not get to use. Selling Nisbet for £2.25m would be a very bad move by Hibs.

[Stuart93]

Loan wouldn’t be an issue for me. Would depend on the player. I don’t think the club would jump in to chucking a long term contract at anyone when there will only be 12 games left after tomorrow.

We gave Nisbet a four year deal and are potentially looking at having the problem of replacing him after six months after all. In no way am I supporting the idea of selling him though.

frustrating getting excited about players and the inevitability that they’ll be off as soon as they’re in the door if they’re any good. 6 months is also a very quick turnover if he does go and I reckon he’d be worth more come the summer. Don’t get the supposed rush to sell.

Kind of makes you wonder what’s the point.

[Sean1875]

When there’s 2 days until the transfer window closes a couple of loans to keep us ticking over until we can replace them properly in the summer makes complete sense.

When we’re still very much in the race for third, I really hope our board show a lot more ambition than signing folk just to ‘keep us ticking over’ until summer. Really don’t see why anyone would be happy to settle for that?


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[Andy74]

Na loans can do one for me especially if it’s to replace our top assets because you’re then faced with the same problem later down the line.

If hibs think getting supporters on board for next season is selling our best players and replacing with loans then they’ll suffer for it

Loans like Stokes and Henderson for example, or Griffiths?

[SMAXXA]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] very good [emoji106]

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No idea what this is supposed to mean but the poster you quoted is bang in the money

[Stuart93]

Loans like Stokes and Henderson for example, or Griffiths?

Aye but where did it leave us when they moved on? Back to square one

It’s not specifically loans I’m bothered about. It would bother me if we sell our best assets and replace them with a loan signing.

[Andy74]

Aye but where did it leave us when they moved on? Back to square one

Not really. If we hadn’t won the cup we’d have been absolutely screwed as a club.

[HoboHarry]

Aye but where did it leave us when they moved on? Back to square one

Aye but with a Scottish Cup in our pockets.

[Stuart93]

Not really. If we hadn’t won the cup we’d have been absolutely screwed as a club.

I’ve edited my post. I don’t feel stokes Henderson or Griffiths were brought in to replace players we’d sold on

[Andy74]

I’ve edited my post. I don’t feel stokes Henderson or Griffiths were brought in to replace players we’d sold on

Who cares really?

The important thing is winning football matches.

Players on loan could end up here for 2 years. Permanent signings might last 6 months.

If a loan player helped us to 3rd place and or the Scottish cup this season you think that supporters would take the huff that they weren’t really our player and decide not to pay to watch us again?

We’ve done well investing in getting good young players in long term recently. If we decided to bring a loan or two in now then great, whatever works.

[superfurryhibby]

So much speculation, so much pish,

[Gaffer1875]

I can sadly see either Nesbit or Porteous leaving before Monday, hope we hold out for as much cash as possible and have some players lined up.


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[Stuart93]

Who cares really?

The important thing is winning football matches.

Players on loan could end up here for 2 years. Permanent signings might last 6 months.

If a loan player helped us to 3rd place and or the Scottish cup this season you think that supporters would take the huff that they weren’t really our player and decide not to pay to watch us again?

We’ve done well investing in getting good young players in long term recently. If we decided to bring a loan or two in now then great, whatever works.

Guess we can only wait and see

I very much doubt any player we bring in on loan will have the same impact of the 3 you’ve mentioned did

[04Sauzee]

Birmingham fans seem very confident a deal for Nisbet is close to being finalised.

Didn't except to see him go this window.

[Callum_62]

We showed a fair deal of ambition buying nisbet this summer

No reason to think, if we do sell that ambition won't he shown again

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[JammyDoidger]

If we can get shankland for half of nisbet's price or ideally less that's what we should be looking to do.
Similar with porto, if we can get gallagher and Kerr and still have money left from the sale of porto we should do it.

[RossScott1991]

If we get 3mil for nisbet after half a season it’s too good a deal.

It also shows how much we short handed ourselves of McGinn.

John Mcginn should have been easily 5/6mil + sell ons

[Sean1875]

If we get 3mil for nisbet after half a season it’s too good a deal.

It also shows how much we short handed ourselves of McGinn.

John Mcginn should have been easily 5/6mil + sell ons

Is that not all a bit of a contradiction?


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[BegbieHSC]

Would be fuming if either left at this stage tbh.

Livi breathing down our necks, and potentially selling two of our key players mid-season with just a couple of days left of the window would be a ludicrous decision.

Neither of their values are likely to depreciate considerably, so if they’re desperate to leave, let them then when we at least can have a bit of planning in the summer.

If we’re skint, take the loan - don’t sell our key players and potentially totally de-rail our season.

[Heisenberg]

Going to be an almighty scramble to try and replace Nisbet/Porteous at such short notice should either leave. See the Aberdeen chairman has been on Twitter bemoaning how difficult it’s been for them to make signings in this window.

[MrRobot]

Hibs hold the cards here with both players; we don’t need to sell and we have them on a long contracts. The price should be set high if we are going to sell to reflect their potential and current contacts.

We shouldn’t let them leave for the amounts quoted IMO.

[superfurryhibby]

If we get 3mil for nisbet after half a season it’s too good a deal.

It also shows how much we short handed ourselves of McGinn.

John Mcginn should have been easily 5/6mil + sell ons

No, but I’ll let you work out why.

[easty]

If we can get shankland for half of nisbet's price or ideally less that's what we should be looking to do.
Similar with porto, if we can get gallagher and Kerr and still have money left from the sale of porto we should do it.

Shanklands top league record doesn’t justify a £1.5m transfer fee.

No chance Hibs would pay that for a player anyway.

[S4uzee]

Birmingham fans seem very confident a deal for Nisbet is close to being finalised.

Didn't except to see him go this window.

If true, he’ll never have played in front of the Hibs fans

[ScottB]

Selling a guy whose been here for 6 months is mental. He’s got 3.5 years left, if someone is offering £3million now, they likely still would in the summer, or next year, if not more.

So, either Nisbet has some sort of release clause, or do we just really need the money?

[Brightside]

Selling a guy whose been here for 6 months is mental. He’s got 3.5 years left, if someone is offering £3million now, they likely still would in the summer, or next year, if not more.

So, either Nisbet has some sort of release clause, or do we just really need the money?

Every club needs £3m.

[Not In The Know]

Just watched the pressers.

Who the **** thought putting Doig in for questioning after this weeks rumours was a good idea needs a kick up the arse.

[TheHibernator]

Just watched the pressers.

Who the **** thought putting Doig in for questioning after this weeks rumours was a good idea needs a kick up the arse.

Agreed. Mental decision

[TheHibernator]

Starting to get nervous about nisbet leaving.
Would rather Porto went if given the choice, would be much easier to replace, would ideally like to keep both though.

Selling Nisbet could be a disastrous decision this late in the window.

[JammyDoidger]

Shanklands top league record doesn’t justify a £1.5m transfer fee.

No chance Hibs would pay that for a player anyway.

I'd go up to 1m. I was thinking if we get 2m for nisbet. Bank 1m spend 1m on shankland. Won't happen but its what I'd like us to do.

[Ronniekirk]

Selling a guy whose been here for 6 months is mental. He’s got 3.5 years left, if someone is offering £3million now, they likely still would in the summer, or next year, if not more.

So, either Nisbet has some sort of release clause, or do we just really need the money?

He isn’t pushing fir a move so no way should we be accepting a bid unless it was too good to turn down


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[SHODAN]

Aberdeen held onto McKenna for three years after clubs started showing interest in him, massive contrast if we sell Porteous to the first bidder.

[bingo70]

Aberdeen held onto McKenna for three years after clubs started showing interest in him, massive contrast if we sell Porteous to the first bidder.

Not during a pandemic when they lost income for a year they never.

[King Cosell]

If Nisbet does leave, we spend around a million on Shankland, and Stevie Mallan goes to Dundee Utd on loan, I reckon you've got 3 happy clubs and 3 happy players.

[eastmainsmsh]

Ross keen on Devlin from Aberdeen on a pre contract

[Unseen work]

Ross keen on Devlin from Aberdeen on a pre contract

Where you seeing/heard that?

I rate him as a player and was doing really well for Aberdeen and made a couple of Scotland appearances. Don’t know why he’s so far out the picture now at Aberdeen, heard he fell out with Mccinnes but who knows.

[eastmainsmsh]

Where you seeing/heard that?

I rate him as a player and was doing really well for Aberdeen and made a couple of Scotland appearances. Don’t know why he’s so far out the picture now at Aberdeen, heard he fell out with Mccinnes but who knows.

It was some article linking them with Jack Harper I will try and find link

[Heisenberg]

Ross keen on Devlin from Aberdeen on a pre contract

Would stay well clear of him, always seems to be out injured.

[S4uzee]

Would stay well clear of him, always seems to be out injured.

Exactly the type of player we like

[JimBHibees]

If Nisbet does leave, we spend around a million on Shankland, and Stevie Mallan goes to Dundee Utd on loan, I reckon you've got 3 happy clubs and 3 happy players.

Personally wouldn't go anywhere near Shankland

[JimBHibees]

Would stay well clear of him, always seems to be out injured.

Yep don't really see the attraction. Serious knee njury not that long ago which seems to be a bit of a theme with recent signings. Not to say players can't come back firing from these injuries however both Murphy and Magennis seem very prone to muscular injuries on the back of it.

[bingo70]

Personally wouldn't go anywhere near Shankland

How come?

If we are able to take advantage of Dundee United being in a dodgy financial position then he’d look like a terrific replacement for Nisbet?

As for replacing Porteous, were we not meant to be interested in the centre half from Dunfermline, Murray I think his name is? Wonder if we might step up our interest in him a bit.

[Coco Bryce]

Would stay well clear of him, always seems to be out injured.

Sounds perfect for our recruitment team then.

[Gmack7]

If Nisbet can get back on form for the remainder of the season I'm sure he will be in the squad for the euros, bigger clubs with bigger budgets will surely be interested
I dont see Mcburnie, Burke or shankland all making it.

[JimBHibees]

How come?

If we are able to take advantage of Dundee United being in a dodgy financial position then he’d look like a terrific replacement for Nisbet?

As for replacing Porteous, were we not meant to be interested in the centre half from Dunfermline, Murray I think his name is? Wonder if we might step up our interest in him a bit.

Just a personal opinion while appreciating he has been injured the games I have seen him play this season he has looked slow and pretty poor. Doesn't seem to link play particularly well and quite selfish which suppose you expect from someone with his scoring record.

[Callum_62]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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[killie-hibby]

Interesting article in todays National regards how Brexit is affecting the transfer market. Basically saying that English clubs have increased their scouting operations in Scotland to hoover up bargains before transfer prices rocket. Hibs should take note of this and delay any sales to England until end of this season at the earliest.
I havent a clue how to load the article onto this post,but it's wortwhile logging in to read it.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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I kind of agree. When he’s been good, he’s been very good. But he needs to find more consistency.

Not really criticising him as he’s done well and it’s pretty clear he’s a good player who can improve further.

[bingo70]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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You’re a brave man but I agree.

Too many games pass him by for me. Cant argue with his goal scoring record and he’s clearly got ability, I just come away a bit disappointed with what he’s offered a bit too often.

IMO a £3m Hibs player should be making an impact of sorts in pretty much every game.

I’m not totally convinced his goal scoring run at the first half of the season won’t turn out to be just a good run of form that lots of strikers have.

[Heisenberg]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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I’m another that is edging towards agreeing with you. His goals have dried up recently and his performances certainly haven’t been where they were at the start of the season but there are obviously a variety of factors that will affect that, I.e the rest of the team have been honking for a while too.

£3m would be fair for a player with half a good season in the Scottish top flight behind him and the potential he has for further development. It’s all well and good that we don’t need to sell but I’d say £3m is getting into “too good to turn down” territory given what we paid in the summer.

[CapitalGreen]

You’re a brave man but I agree.

Too many games pass him by for me. Cant argue with his goal scoring record and he’s clearly got ability, I just come away a bit disappointed with what he’s offered a bit too often.

IMO a £3m Hibs player should be making an impact of sorts in pretty much every game.

I’m not totally convinced his goal scoring run at the first half of the season won’t turn out to be just a good run of form that lots of strikers have.

Recency bias at play here IMO. His recent games is just a bad run of form that lots of young strikers have.

[Hibernian Verse]

Re: Nisbet's inconsistency, I hate to sound like a broken record but I'm going to do it anyway :greengrin

If he was the complete striker at 23 he would have gone to a bigger club than Hibs. He has all the attributes to be a top player, but many don't mature into consistent players at the top of their game until they are much older.

Contrast it to your own job e.g. I'm much better & consistent at my role now than I was when I was 23.

[Bostonhibby]

Sounds perfect for our recruitment team then.Agreed, maybe there's an injury we haven't had in the squad and he's got it.

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[we are hibs]

Weve only scored 5 goals in our last 9 games. The goals have dried up for Nisbet but no one else is contributing enough goals at the minute either.

[The Spaceman]

Re: Nisbet's inconsistency, I hate to sound like a broken record but I'm going to do it anyway :greengrin

If he was the complete striker at 23 he would have gone to a bigger club than Hibs. He has all the attributes to be a top player, but many don't mature into consistent players at the top of their game until they are much older.

Contrast it to your own job e.g. I'm much better & consistent at my role now than I was when I was 23.

You are spot on though. Anyone who thinks a Nisbet isn’t good enough or is too inconsistent for us quite frankly doesn’t have a clue about football. He’s been our best striker since Griffiths and has outshone Shankland who was hyped to the moon and back in their debut Premiership season. The boy has had to contend with losing his Dad a couple of months ago too - that’s bound to have an impact.

I wonder if those same posters are billionaires? After all, at 23 they must have been something awfully special.

[Stuart93]

Weve only scored 5 goals in our last 9 games. The goals have dried up for Nisbet but no one else is contributing enough goals at the minute either.

Yep, I’d like to know where people think our goals are coming from if we sell nisbet? Hardly any goals come from elsewhere in the team. It’s a massive worry.

Selling him and getting good cash is all good and well but if it derails the rest of the season and we end up 5th it probably see’s your manager out the door.

[Jones28]

Ross keen on Devlin from Aberdeen on a pre contract

Not sure how I feel about Aberdeen’s sloppy seconds tbh

[B.H.F.C]

You are spot on though. Anyone who thinks a Nisbet isn’t good enough or is too inconsistent for us quite frankly doesn’t have a clue about football. He’s been our best striker since Griffiths and has outshone Shankland who was hyped to the moon and back in their debut Premiership season. The boy has had to contend with losing his Dad a couple of months ago too - that’s bound to have an impact.

I wonder if those same posters are billionaires? After all, at 23 they must have been something awfully special.

Surely the fact he has failed to score in 15 of his 23 league appearances shows an element of inconsistency?

Or do I just not have a clue? I don’t think I’ve seen anybody say he’s not good enough for us to play for Hibs by the way.

[Jones28]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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Now? No. In 18 months/2 years he could well be, or more.

[FilipinoHibs]

Recency bias at play here IMO. His recent games is just a bad run of form that lots of young strikers have.

The service to him has been poor for weeks. He keeps having to come deep to get the ball or run the channels chasing a long ball

[Stuart93]

Now? No. In 18 months/2 years he could well be, or more.

Think that’s what people are forgetting, he can also progress in the next year or so. Nothing will change my mind that I think we’re selling far too quickly

[Callum_62]

You are spot on though. Anyone who thinks a Nisbet isn’t good enough or is too inconsistent for us quite frankly doesn’t have a clue about football. He’s been our best striker since Griffiths and has outshone Shankland who was hyped to the moon and back in their debut Premiership season. The boy has had to contend with losing his Dad a couple of months ago too - that’s bound to have an impact.

I wonder if those same posters are billionaires? After all, at 23 they must have been something awfully special.That escalated quickly [emoji23]

For me Nisbet could go 2 ways - he recaptures his earlier form or it turns out he had a very good purple patch

His overall game has been off the boil for a while but that's not to say his poor form isn't a blip rather than vice versa

If we can get up around 3 million I could absolutely see why the club would be tempted


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[Greenworld]

Re: Nisbet's inconsistency, I hate to sound like a broken record but I'm going to do it anyway :greengrin

If he was the complete striker at 23 he would have gone to a bigger club than Hibs. He has all the attributes to be a top player, but many don't mature into consistent players at the top of their game until they are much older.

Contrast it to your own job e.g. I'm much better & consistent at my role now than I was when I was 23.I look at Shankland at see a player thats not improving more than he is and wonder if Nisbet albeit a better player than Shankland would reach the heights people think.
If Birmingham are back with 2.25 million that is to good to refuse in my mind.
The 1 million bid for poteous is an insult and should be punted. I value him at 3 million however I'm sure 2 million would persuade the club to do business.
Doig is the interesting one if there is genuine interest from the big premier clubs we could bag a healthy fee and still have him on loan how do you value doig could be anything from 1 - 5 million .

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[Jones28]

Think that’s what people are forgetting, he can also progress in the next year or so. Nothing will change my mind that I think we’re selling far too quickly

If the club was in obvious financial trouble then you could understand but now? When we’re bringing quality in? Nah. The summer would be the absolute earliest we sell, and that depends on how the rest of the season goes.

[Clarence]

Weve only scored 5 goals in our last 9 games. The goals have dried up for Nisbet but no one else is contributing enough goals at the minute either.

This is the problem. It’s a bit contradictory to say that the top scorer in the league doesn’t score enough goals. Our problem is that the rest of the team are not chipping in. Or tapping in or any other sort of finish.

[B.H.F.C]

This is the problem. It’s a bit contradictory to say that the top scorer in the league doesn’t score enough goals. Our problem is that the rest of the team are not chipping in. Or tapping in or any other sort of finish.

Has been an issue all year. The return from midfield is pitiful. Hopefully Allan can get back in to the team. Loads of talk about his creativity but he was double figures for goals last year as well.

[Greenworld]

Think that’s what people are forgetting, he can also progress in the next year or so. Nothing will change my mind that I think we’re selling far too quicklyThe converse is also true there are no guarantees anything from 2 million up is a very fair offer and should be accepted. Birmingham are a good club for him in my opinion

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[Stuart93]

The converse is also true there are no guarantees anything from 2 million up is a very fair offer and should be accepted. Birmingham are a good club for him in my opinion

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£2m isn’t enough, £3m minimum for me.

I’m no sure Birmingham are. Do they not flirt with relegation most seasons in that championship? Honestly can’t see him doing much there.

[Ronniekirk]

Yep don't really see the attraction. Serious knee njury not that long ago which seems to be a bit of a theme with recent signings. Not to say players can't come back firing from these injuries however both Murphy and Magennis seem very prone to muscular injuries on the back of it.

Exactly we can’t keep signing players with history of injuries While selling best players Recipe fir disaster
Stick to buying promising young talent and improve them and sell at a profit


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[Stuart93]

Exactly we can’t keep signing players with history of injuries While selling best players Recipe fir disaster
Stick to buying promising young talent and improve them and sell at a profit


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I agree with this but surely we’re wanting more than 6 months out of these promising young players before we’re selling them?

I think people are forgetting that first and foremost the success of the club comes before selling our best talent on.

[Hibernian Verse]

I look at Shankland at see a player thats not improving more than he is and wonder if Nisbet albeit a better player than Shankland would reach the heights people think.
If Birmingham are back with 2.25 million that is to good to refuse in my mind.
The 1 million bid for poteous is an insult and should be punted. I value him at 3 million however I'm sure 2 million would persuade the club to do business.
Doig is the interesting one if there is genuine interest from the big premier clubs we could bag a healthy fee and still have him on loan how do you value doig could be anything from 1 - 5 million .

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I agree, in 6 months you couldn't hope for a much better ROI % on Nisbet I don't think.

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[easty]

I agree, in 6 months you couldn't hope for a much better ROI % on Nisbet I don't think.

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Which is true, but quick ROI isn’t what I’m interested in as a Hibs fan.

[Hibernian Verse]

Which is true, but quick ROI isn’t what I’m interested in as a Hibs fan.No, and generally I'm not either. However, Ron may feel differently, and I think we could probably do with the money during Covid.

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[Smartie]

Potential will always inflate a transfer fee as well.

Nisbet has played at a higher level every year for the past few years and continued to score goals.

Even if he's as good as he's going to be he's pretty good, but might get even better still.

If he scores at Championship level and continues to improve from there then he's worth many times the fee we're talking here. It's hard to put a figure on potential. Andy Robertson had potential but did any of us think he had that much?

For all he has potential and is a good player, we are who we are and we play where we do meaning that there is a limit to what someone will be prepared to pay for one of our players. He'd need to have a really solid couple of years to command a big fee, not just a decent half season where you'd be buying potential as much as a track record.

TBH I wouldn't blame him for being interested and taking the move whilst he can. He had a good start to the season but he's getting zero service and there is nothing to suggest he'll finish the way he started the season at Hibs. His stock looks more likely to fall than rise at Hibs right now.

If I were him I'd want the move, and when a player wants to go there is little you can do other than get as much as you can for him.

[jeffers]

I agree, in 6 months you couldn't hope for a much better ROI % on Nisbet I don't think.

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That’s where I’m at. Are we really struggling so much financially that we can’t hold on until the summer to sell him. It’s a gamble, but he gets back to form, into the Euros squad and you’d think his value would increase.

[bigwheel]

Which is true, but quick ROI isn’t what I’m interested in as a Hibs fan.

True. But those running the club have to think about those things. A football chairman once said to me “knowing when to sell a player is a key skill”.. not saying it’s now, but it’s their job to do that, not ours - we care really only about results on the pitch

[Hibernian Verse]

That’s where I’m at. Are we really struggling so much financially that we can’t hold on until the summer to sell him. It’s a gamble, but he gets back to form, into the Euros squad and you’d think his value would increase.If he goes, I trust the decision makers to include hefty additional performance based payments e.g. inclusion in Euro squad, goals for club and Country etc

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[J-C]

Aye but where did it leave us when they moved on? Back to square one

It’s not specifically loans I’m bothered about. It would bother me if we sell our best assets and replace them with a loan signing.


It would give us more time to get the correct singings in the summer as long as the loan one did the business meantime.

[Ronniekirk]

I agree with this but surely we’re wanting more than 6 months out of these promising young players before we’re selling them?

I think people are forgetting that first and foremost the success of the club comes before selling our best talent on.

Agree but we live in unprecedented times just now
If Aberdeen are Having to sell to survive I can’t see us not having to part with one player unless Ron is prepared to take a hit fir benefit of the Club and cash in in the summer
As things stand though the current squad selling no one may yet finish fifth if Livingston don’t start losing games
In theory we should of been pushing fir third place but as things stand we aren’t
But as Ross said he needs a decision made one way or the other to allow him to bring in a replacement
The timing of all this is ****
Hibs should privately name Thier price to the uprising clubs today and make it clear if we don’t get x we won’t be selling and give them a deadline to respond
This pudding about having clubs offer a few hundred thousand more is just them penny pinching
If they really want the players they will fork up imo as still getting Bargains




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[jeffers]

If he goes, I trust the decision makers to include hefty additional performance based payments e.g. inclusion in Euro squad, goals for club and Country etc

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Fair point, but if he does those things while still with us you’d expect more than just Birmingham to be interested thus driving his value up even more.

[Fergus52]

I'm probably swimming against the general optinion here but I'm certainly not overly convinced that Kevin is a 3 million pound player

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Worse players than nisbet go for more money than that across Europe and especially in the lower English leagues every transfer window.

Don't want to sound like a broken record but Scotland absolutely has to stop under valueing our players if we want to develop as a league. Not saying nisbet is the complete package as he does have weaknesses but if he'd scored that amount of goals in any of the league's at a similar ranking to Scotland he'd be going for 5million minimum.

[easty]

No, and generally I'm not either. However, Ron may feel differently, and I think we could probably do with the money during Covid.

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If we absolutely need the money, then we sell, and I’d have no complaints. The future of Hibs is more important than how we do this season.

If we just think it’s a good deal, but we don’t absolutely need the money now (rather than in potentially 6 months), then I’m really disappointed. It’s hard for a Scottish team to move forward, as we’re held back by the Old Firm being so dominant, but this season there’s a realistic chance of automatic qualification for the group stages of the Europa league. That could be massive for Hibs. It’s not going to happen by selling off the squad in January.

[Wakeyhibee]

I agree with this but surely we’re wanting more than 6 months out of these promising young players before we’re selling them?

I think people are forgetting that first and foremost the success of the club comes before selling our best talent on.

I think this will be a test for the new regime. If they dont sell it's a huge backing of the manager. Now more than ever you would think that selling to boost the coffers and protect against an unknown future would be prudent.

I wouldnt be happy but at least this time it's understandable.

[superfurryhibby]

No, and generally I'm not either. However, Ron may feel differently, and I think we could probably do with the money during Covid.

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We can offset the transfer fee against the loss of revenue when season ticket sales plummet as fans become increasingly disinterested in supporting a club with no ambition?

[Stuart93]

I reckon we’re chucking the season selling our top goal scorer.

[TheGreenMan]

Not sure if it's been said as I've not read the thread back but this absolutely screams keep Nisbet until the summer at a minimum. No chance his value drops, he has every chance of finishing the season as top goalscorer and being included in the Scotland squad for the euros. If we then sell, we're selling at bigger price with more potential buyers for sure. On top of that and more importantly, helping us get a potential 3rd place and a huge Euro tie and guaranteed euro group football, all money spinners from Ron's point of view and growth of the club overall. Would be madness to sell right now unless it's a record fee, as always everyone has their price. Goalscorers are hard to come by and you could quickly slide to 5th/6th taking his goals out of our team. Won't be happy at all if we punt him after 6 months for buttons

[Nicho87]

We should have been looking for a striker if Nisbet was staying anyway.
If he goes hibs will just cover it up with the inevitable signing of a loan signing probably an untried youngster from some dross English championship club.

Livingston will be thinking rightfully so 3rd is very much on.

[hibbysam]

Agree but we live in unprecedented times just now
If Aberdeen are Having to sell to survive I can’t see us not having to part with one player unless Ron is prepared to take a hit fir benefit of the Club and cash in in the summer
As things stand though the current squad selling no one may yet finish fifth if Livingston don’t start losing games
In theory we should of been pushing fir third place but as things stand we aren’t
But as Ross said he needs a decision made one way or the other to allow him to bring in a replacement
The timing of all this is ****
Hibs should privately name Thier price to the uprising clubs today and make it clear if we don’t get x we won’t be selling and give them a deadline to respond
This pudding about having clubs offer a few hundred thousand more is just them penny pinching
If they really want the players they will fork up imo as still getting Bargains




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We are three points behind Aberdeen with a far kinder run to the split than they have and they’ve all but lost their top scorer. How can you possibly say we’re not challenging for 3rd but likely to be overtaken by a side further behind us than we are behind Aberdeen?

[flash]

We should have been looking for a striker if Nisbet was staying anyway.
If he goes hibs will just cover it up with the inevitable signing of a loan signing probably an untried youngster from some dross English championship club.

Livingston will be thinking rightfully so 3rd is very much on.

When have we ever done that before?

[J-C]

Nisbet has done very well moving up the divisions and in the 1st few months was on fire and scoring, since his fathers death his form has declined and a lot of games have passed him by, this is understandable for a young lad. He has a lot of potential and that is all he has potential, no one knows if he will fulfil that potential or he maybe he's reached his potential and he is what he is now. The club and football is in a difficult situation and if a decent fee comes in which both parties are happy with we have to accept it as long as we have decent add ons.

[JimBHibees]

I reckon we’re chucking the season selling our top goal scorer.

Certainly would be high risk however would be amazed if we were to sell without decent quality coming in. Would make no sense not to especially given last weeks semi final and fall out from that. Certainly a difficult balancing act.

[lucky]

We should have been looking for a striker if Nisbet was staying anyway.
If he goes hibs will just cover it up with the inevitable signing of a loan signing probably an untried youngster from some dross English championship club.

Livingston will be thinking rightfully so 3rd is very much on.

Look at Livingston’s signings. They all look dross on paper from lower leagues clubs across Britain.

If Nesbit wants to go and we get over £2m with a sell on clause then get the deal done. I do agree we need to bring in at least 1 striker.

[hibbysam]

Nisbet has done very well moving up the divisions and in the 1st few months was on fire and scoring, since his fathers death his form has declined and a lot of games have passed him by, this is understandable for a young lad. He has a lot of potential and that is all he has potential, no one knows if he will fulfil that potential or he maybe he's reached his potential and he is what he is now. The club and football is in a difficult situation and if a decent fee comes in which both parties are happy with we have to accept it as long as we have decent add ons.

Not looked at the stats but off the top of my head he must’ve played almost every game as well. He’s not had any meaningful rest I don’t think. Even in the cup group stage games he was required.

[Nicho87]

Look at Livingston’s signings. They all look dross on paper from lower leagues clubs across Britain.

If Nesbit wants to go and we get over £2m with a sell on clause then get the deal done. I do agree we need to bring in at least 1 striker.

Yes correct but clearly imo they are a team that know their jobs. Play to their strength, look good going forward.

[Squealing pig]

Get some European football stay for another season

[04Sauzee]

Hearts fans believe Findlay and Campbell will join them on a pre contract.

[Greenio]

When have we ever sold a player after 6 months? Esp given hes one of our most promising prospects.

I cant see it. Nisbet will stay.

Porteous much more likely to go I think. Esp if what folk were saying about him having had it with the press/agro etc, which I'd understand completely. I'd want $3million for him and not a penny less and even that price pisses me off when I see far less talented players going for 3 or 4 times that.

[J-C]

Not looked at the stats but off the top of my head he must’ve played almost every game as well. He’s not had any meaningful rest I don’t think. Even in the cup group stage games he was required.


Yep played almost every game which can't be good, I don't think anyone here wants him sold, I don't but you have to be realistic and realise what's happening in the world to understand that it may be too good a deal to knock back at this time.

[ElginHibbie]

I feel this happens every window, late on a player gets linked with a move and some jump to the conclusion that the club has no ambition, we'll just end up signing loan players and the season is over, but what actually happens is the players don't actually leave

Maybe this time that won't happen and the club will sell and this will turn out to be the wrong thing, but at moment don't see the reason to get too worked up about it... until 2pm when Doig, Porteous and Nisbet aren't in the squad, THEN everyone can get mad

[Eyrie]

At this stage in the January window we can only sell a starting player if we have a replacement lined up, or we're offered silly money. Agents and other teams will know we have money to spend when looking for a permanent replacement in the summer.

Selling Nisbet now is a very bad idea because I can't see how we can replace him at such short notice. I think Hibs would be tempted by £3m, but personally I'd hold out for more or wait until the summer because his goals are more valuable than the risk of bids being lower. He's nowhere near the end of his contract. Even if Nisbet turns out to have reached his ceiling with us, that's still a very good ceiling and we've got a guaranteed goal scorer at our level.

Selling Doig or Porteous is less contentious as there are alternatives - Stevenson and Mackie at LB, or getting Findlay/Guthrie/Gallagher on a pre-contract and then a small fee to bring them in for the remaining games. But with only a dozen league matches left (plus Scottish Cup, if it goes ahead) we can use McGregor or McGinn at CH if we need to wait.

Moving Mallan makes sense simply because he's behind Allan and Newell for game time, so there is a wage saving there.

[brog]

As someone who's lived in London for 40 years I frequently criticise my English friends for their lack of knowledge & appreciation of Scottish football. Reading through this thread since the Nisbet/Porteous bids emerged it appears there's many of our supporters who also fall into that category. The 2 clubs who have approached us are Championship clubs. Brentford are a Championship club with average gates of about 10k. In the last 2 or 3 years they've sold 4 strikers & 1 central defender for close on £90m, the lowest being £10m. That's the market to which we are selling. I'm not suggesting we'll get anything like that amount for either player but we should be looking for closer to 50% of that market value rather than 10 to 20%. I just hope the custodians of our club are better acquainted with the economics of football in the UK. Meanwhile, why don't we talk our players & their value up instead of this constant negativity about 2 outstanding prospects & their value.

[Aldo]

Hearts fans believe Findlay and Campbell will join them on a pre contract.

Good luck to them. Big wages on offer down Tiny way by all accounts.


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[Ronniekirk]

We are three points behind Aberdeen with a far kinder run to the split than they have and they’ve all but lost their top scorer. How can you possibly say we’re not challenging for 3rd but likely to be overtaken by a side further behind us than we are behind Aberdeen?

Fir Dramatic Effect
Thought The Dons had several games in hand and We aren’t winning many games and Livingston are
If we sell our best assets it’s not impossible that what I said could become what happens
Next couple of games though is our chance to get back winning games


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[zitelli62]

Birmingham bringing in a young striker from man city.

[neil7908]

When have we ever sold a player after 6 months? Esp given hes one of our most promising prospects.

I cant see it. Nisbet will stay.

Porteous much more likely to go I think. Esp if what folk were saying about him having had it with the press/agro etc, which I'd understand completely. I'd want $3million for him and not a penny less and even that price pisses me off when I see far less talented players going for 3 or 4 times that.

When have we ever been in a global pandemic before that massively reduced our income?

If we get £3m for Nisbet I think that's too much to turn down. A bit like Porto there is clearly potential there. But I'm honestly not sure if he's going to turn into a £5m+ player.

[Peevemor]

Ron & the board have been finding money to make decent signings - signings that have been largely welcomed on here.

I think it's safe to say that if we do accept any bids, then it will be for the greater good and will be a joint decision - management & board.

[silverhibee]

Has been an issue all year. The return from midfield is pitiful. Hopefully Allan can get back in to the team. Loads of talk about his creativity but he was double figures for goals last year as well.

We are creating enough chances as well, we just don't take many of them, a few of the forward thinking players should practice there shooting after training and get a bit confidence in them.

[The Count]

Ron & the board have been finding money to make decent signings - signings that have been largely welcomed on here.

I think it's safe to say that if we do accept any bids, then it will be for the greater good and will be a joint decision - management & board.

Agree under the circumstances of a pandemic we have to accept whats financial best for the club and hopefullythe team.Dont like admitting this but its reality.

[Carheenlea]

Ron & the board have been finding money to make decent signings - signings that have been largely welcomed on here.

I think it's safe to say that if we do accept any bids, then it will be for the greater good and will be a joint decision - management & board.

Agree. We are not in “fire sale” territory so any deals would really have to be with the mindset of giving us a platform to continue to improve the playing squad. If attractive bids are tabled then it could give some of the targets on the recruitment teams radar a better chance of securing. The last hours of the transfer window isn’t really ideal though.

[silverhibee]

I reckon we’re chucking the season selling our top goal scorer.

:agree:

Would be madness to sell Nisbet this window when we are pushing for a European spot.

[Souter96Mac]

1.45pm today will be interesting

[Hibs90]

How many goals has Shankland scored this season?

Hibs aren't going to spend a million or whatever it is on Shankland.

We don't sell Nisbet unless it's a crazy offer surely.

[where'stheslope]

How many goals has Shankland scored this season?

Hibs aren't going to spend a million or whatever it is on Shankland.

We don't sell Nisbet unless it's a crazy offer surely.
I generally think that is why Shankland never stepped up the leagues before.
He is a great championship player scoring plenty goals, up to a full time league and goals tend to dry up!

[Hibs90]

Nisbet is the leagues top goal scorer outside penalty and free-kick merchant Tavernier. Anything less than 4 or 5 million for a player with 3.5 years left on his deal and young is absolutely criminal and Hibs would rightly deserve the backlash from the fans - who let's face it aren't exactly happy just now anyway.

Criminal decision.

[Dalianwanda]

Ron & the board have been finding money to make decent signings - signings that have been largely welcomed on here.

I think it's safe to say that if we do accept any bids, then it will be for the greater good and will be a joint decision - management & board.

Spot on.....Its already been mentioned many times but these are not normal times. We are struggling to stay afloat. Yes we might be doing better than others but I cant understand how people cant see that. Rons not stupid, hes forking out as an investment that we make a return on. 6mths in is unheard of for us to sell & I really hope we dont but I totally trust the decisions of those in place to make them. I want the team to improve to grow but we dont have infinate finances & it might have to be a step back to go forward. We cant compare this to any previous seasons transfer dealings, its not comparing like with like. No on can say the club lacks ambition we have shown time and time again this season that we will push the boat out if it makes sense. I hope we keep everyone but if the want to move or we need to move them then so be it.

[WhileTheChief..]

Are we struggling to stay afloat? I seriously doubt it.

[HFC 0-7]

Nisbet is the leagues top goal scorer outside penalty and free-kick merchant Tavernier. Anything less than 4 or 5 million for a player with 3.5 years left on his deal and young is absolutely criminal and Hibs would rightly deserve the backlash from the fans - who let's face it aren't exactly happy just now anyway.

Criminal decision.

Think Reefe is the top scorer if you take away penalties from tavernier and nisbett.

[Since452]

3 million for Nisbet would be incredible money right now

[Callum_62]

Nisbet is the leagues top goal scorer outside penalty and free-kick merchant Tavernier. Anything less than 4 or 5 million for a player with 3.5 years left on his deal and young is absolutely criminal and Hibs would rightly deserve the backlash from the fans - who let's face it aren't exactly happy just now anyway.

Criminal decision.I can't agree

4-5 million would be great but I can aboslutely see why around 3 million would be tempting

Kevin has potential but I wouldnt say he's irreplaceable

Not like a John mcginn

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[easty]

I can't agree

4-5 million would be great but I can aboslutely see why around 3 million would be tempting

Kevin has potential but I wouldnt say he's irreplaceable

Not like a John mcginn

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It’s an unfair comparison with McGinn. Nobody was offering us any money for McGinn 6 months after we signed him.

Give Nisbet a couple of years at Hibs and he could be worth a lot more than he is now.

[Callum_62]

It’s an unfair comparison with McGinn. Nobody was offering us any money for McGinn 6 months after we signed him.

Give Nisbet a couple of years at Hibs and he could be worth a lot more than he is now.He could be or is form might continue to just be who he is

I like Kevin and he had qualities about his game but I certainly wouldnt be sniffing at around 3 million

Its a tricky one for me - he might go on and develop into an all round terrific playe, it's a gamble either way but I think they values being discussed are in the fair category

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[Dalianwanda]

Are we struggling to stay afloat? I seriously doubt it.

OK struggling to stay afloats a bit dramatic.......were not flush with cash though either

[Mikey]

OK struggling to stay afloats a bit dramatic.......were not flush with cash though either

Things can't be that bad or the club wouldn't have brought in Cadden, Irvine and Macey in the last few weeks.

[jeffers]

Are we struggling to stay afloat? I seriously doubt it.

Me either. If we were we wouldn’t have signed Macey when we had Dabrowski, or Cadden when we had McGinn and SDG or Irvine when we have numerous midfielders. Hardly the actions of a club in dire financial straits.

If we were getting offered unbelievable sums for any of our players then it’s a different discussion. I wouldn’t class the offers being quoted as that.

Maybe I’m being over optimistic but with the various vaccines now available I’m more confident of fans being back in grounds by the start of next season.

[Heisenberg]

Sure someone mentioned it before but Birmingham are signing a Man City striker as well as Cosgrove. Surely ends their Nisbet interest?

[Hibs90]

Seeing Nisbet in the starting line-up today would be alleviate a lot of these concerns for me.

[Dalianwanda]

Things can't be that bad or the club wouldn't have brought in Cadden, Irvine and Macey in the last few weeks.

I suppose we will see when the accounts come out....We can do this because everything else has been stripped back & HSL amongst other things..As I say we seem to be in a better space than most but to say it lacks ambition or there will be a backlash if we sell is unfair in my opinion.

[Alfred E Newman]

We can offset the transfer fee against the loss of revenue when season ticket sales plummet as fans become increasingly disinterested in supporting a club with no ambition?

After 60 odd years I should be used to it but it still frustrates me. I understand the economics of it but it’s the reason fans question why we are consistently seen as a mid table club.

[Hermit Crab]

Hearts fans believe Findlay and Campbell will join them on a pre contract.


They also thought they were signing Cummings before he signed for Dundee.

[BSEJVT]

It is quite interesting reading through a thread where various folk give their differing opinions on what player a or b are worth and the wide disparity in those numbers.

For a sale to happen their needs firstly to be a buyer.

They then need to make the seller an offer they find acceptable for the item in question.

The offer they need to make depends on the seller's need or willingness to sell or how much it will take to remove any previous unwillingness to do so.

It also depends on what the seller plans to do with the sale price when received.

Its a bit like Monopoly, you maybe really want to keep Park Lane but if you sell it your release enough cash to put hotels on all your other streets and consequently achieve your desired outcome of winning the game.

I wonder what folk do when the arbitrary figure they have set themselves for player a to be sold isn't met?

I also wonder if their wrath at this would be replaced by the same level of joy if the overall position enabled the team to be strengthened.

Kamberi out Nisbet in anyone?

I think Football Manager has a lot to answer for, the sale of anything of value is a multi faceted thing and all you can ever do is get the best advisers you can to help you achieve your outcome which often stretches far far beyond that one transaction.

I think Ron Gordon has credit in the bank and whatever we decide to do I will believe we did for our best interests, even if they are not immediately apparent to me as I am not well enough informed to know exactly why things are done.

The squad Ross & by extension Gordon inherited was and to some extent still is an absolute calamity and there are no short term fixes for it, but player trading does shorten the tmescales involved.

[04Sauzee]

Sure someone mentioned it before but Birmingham are signing a Man City striker as well as Cosgrove. Surely ends their Nisbet interest?sure its a young boy who is in the last 6 months of his contract. Think he's for the future

[Lago]

After 60 odd years I should be used to it but it still frustrates me. I understand the economics of it but it’s the reason fans question why we are consistently seen as a mid table club.
Agree

[superfurryhibby]

It is quite interesting reading through a thread where various folk give their differing opinions on what player a or b are worth and the wide disparity in those numbers.

For a sale to happen their needs firstly to be a buyer.

They then need to make the seller an offer they find acceptable for the item in question.

The offer they need to make depends on the seller's need or willingness to sell or how much it will take to remove any previous unwillingness to do so.

It also depends on what the seller plans to do with the sale price when received.

Its a bit like Monopoly, you maybe really want to keep Park Lane but if you sell it your release enough cash to put hotels on all your other streets and consequently achieve your desired outcome of winning the game.

I wonder what folk do when the arbitrary figure they have set themselves for player a to be sold isn't met?

I also wonder if their wrath at this would be replaced by the same level of joy if the overall position enabled the team to be strengthened.

Kamberi out Nisbet in anyone?

I think Football Manager has a lot to answer for, the sale of anything of value is a multi faceted thing and all you can ever do is get the best advisers you can to help you achieve your outcome which often stretches far far beyond that one transaction.

I think Ron Gordon has credit in the bank and whatever we decide to do I will believe we did for our best interests, even if they are not immediately apparent to me as I am not well enough informed to know exactly why things are done.

[B]The squad Ross & by extension Gordon inherited was and to some extent still is an absolute calamity and there are no short term fixes for it, but player trading does shorten the tmescales involved.[/B


Not so sure about this. There were plenty good players, more like Heckingbottom didn’t know how to get the best from them. Nor would I describe the current squad as an absolute calamity. Imbalanced maybe, and that is the hand if Ross at work there.

[hibee62]

I reckon we’re chucking the season selling our top goal scorer.

I reckon we are considering (I’m not totally up to date on the status) accepting reasonable bids to safeguard the club at a time when we have 0 regular income and the next batch of annual booster income is likely to be significantly smaller than the last few years... I imagine the club will be weighing this all up.