View Full Version : Greggs Winter transfer thread 2020-21
Blaster
15-01-2021, 05:37 PM
Cadden about to be announced. Teased on Twitter.
Yip
superfurryhibby
15-01-2021, 05:41 PM
Yup. Can't take to Slane's weegie patter. Barry Ferguson should stick to giving TV cameras the finger and managing Kelty.
The constant references to MacAvennie’s scoring record and the burdz, tragic
Sorry, it was Derek Ferguson. Not sure if that makes it any better?
Regardless of the fee, I hadn’t heard of interest from Sunderland.
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 05:42 PM
Scoop there it is 😄
madhatter
15-01-2021, 05:42 PM
It must be a nightmare trying to decide whats for the best for the club. Is the season even going to continue much longer?
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Doubtful that this season will be finished the way it is going. I mean Celtic went to Dubai as many countries got hit by another serious wave, this action, due to inappropriate management across the board, hasn’t even been deemed punishable.
Celtic’s transgression, obviously alongside other things, could signal end tbh. Numbers aren’t great and when you look at options to lower transmission rate and see a scribble on your sheet that says “Celtic...Dubai...wtf?” you’d probably say “Get football shut down”. If a Hibs player tests positive anytime soon it will lead to some very serious questions.
madhatter
15-01-2021, 05:44 PM
:woohoo:
bringbackbenny
15-01-2021, 05:46 PM
It's official!
superfurryhibby
15-01-2021, 05:48 PM
2.5 year contract. Good luck Chris and welcome to Hibernian.
Since452
15-01-2021, 05:48 PM
Tremendous signing
Mikey_1875
15-01-2021, 05:51 PM
Glad this is finally over the line hopefully see both involved in some part tomorrow
neil7908
15-01-2021, 05:58 PM
Very pleased with both our signings. Also happy with Lewis getting another deal.
MagicSwirlingShip
15-01-2021, 06:01 PM
A good weeks work for the football department at Hibs.
blackpoolhibs
15-01-2021, 06:04 PM
I'm hearing an unnamed north east of England club are interested in Cadden, £1.5m been mentioned.
superfurryhibby
15-01-2021, 06:09 PM
His wiki page says he played at right back for Oxford whilst on loan and was widely considered one of the best full backs in League 1.
Versatile player with a lot of experience. 2 Scotland caps, aged 24. He looks like the kind of signing we should be making. Young, hungry, talented. :flag:
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 06:10 PM
I’m the official ITK champ. Scoop my friend bring it on 😘
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 06:11 PM
A good weeks work for the football department at Hibs.
Great week and two fantastic signings.
Irvine I’m led to believe we have another year with if things works out. World Cup next year and all that.
scoopyboy
15-01-2021, 06:13 PM
I’m the official ITK champ. Scoop my friend bring it on 😘
I'm not worthy:not worth
Unseen work
15-01-2021, 06:22 PM
I’m the official ITK champ. Scoop my friend bring it on 😘
You really did call this one before anyone else knew about it..
Since452
15-01-2021, 06:24 PM
Pictures on twitter look like he's been training with the squad.
GreenCastle
15-01-2021, 06:28 PM
Happy with Irvine and Cadden definitely.
We haven’t really replaced Horgan so except Cadden to be an upgrade. Though still curious to see where he will play. He can’t defend and is more attacking so 3-5-2 is the obvious choice - or he may put him centrally in a 3 with Gogic / Irvine for a bit of drive and energy.
Hibee Mac
15-01-2021, 06:33 PM
Happy with Irvine and Cadden definitely.
We haven’t really replaced Horgan so except Cadden to be an upgrade. Though still curious to see where he will play. He can’t defend and is more attacking so 3-5-2 is the obvious choice - or he may put him centrally in a 3 with Gogic / Irvine for a bit of drive and energy.I don't know much about Cadden so out of interest, how confident are you that he isn't good defensively?
I thought I read something about him being a right back or playing as a wing back with a bit of dig to him? Just based on what I've read I'm not expecting him to play similar to Horgan at all really, although I'll be the first to say I'm not the best informed on him.
superfurryhibby
15-01-2021, 06:35 PM
I don't know much about Cadden so out of interest, how confident are you that he isn't good defensively?
I thought I read something about him being a right back or playing as a wing back with a bit of dig to him? Just based on what I've read I'm not expecting him to play similar to Horgan at all really, although I'll be the first to say I'm not the best informed on him.
He played right back at Oxford.
Lancs Harp
15-01-2021, 06:36 PM
There is a sell on clause in the contract, so CC will be due some of any future sell on.
He played 10 games for Colombus Crew last season (in which they won the MLS) came off the bench in 7 of those games was used in defence and midfield.
Unseen work
15-01-2021, 06:39 PM
What I like about Cadden is he’s the sort of winger, wing back or even full back that knocks the ball past his opponent and goes for it. A strong runner and uses his physicality well.
Not the sort to play it safe and just keep the ball all the time or pass it backwards.
Lancs Harp
15-01-2021, 06:41 PM
What I like about Cadden is he’s the sort of winger, wing back or even full back that knocks the ball past his opponent and goes for it. A strong runner and uses his physicality well.
Not the sort to play it safe and just keep the ball all the time or pass it backwards.
Jack will soon coach that out of him :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin joking just joking :wink:
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 06:42 PM
I'm not worthy:not worth
🤣🤣🤣 you told me I’m winding you up 💚
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 06:42 PM
You really did call this one before anyone else knew about it..
Exactly. Thank you 👌
Since452
15-01-2021, 06:48 PM
On paper Cadden is an excellent signing.
Good age.
Hungry for Scotland recall.
Good life experience going over to the states.
Knows the league well.
Chuffed.
FilipinoHibs
15-01-2021, 06:51 PM
I don't know much about Cadden so out of interest, how confident are you that he isn't good defensively?
I thought I read something about him being a right back or playing as a wing back with a bit of dig to him? Just based on what I've read I'm not expecting him to play similar to Horgan at all really, although I'll be the first to say I'm not the best informed on him.
He won right back of the year when playing for Oxford in div 1.
Jim Herriot
15-01-2021, 06:52 PM
My source tells me Chris Cadden is a Hibee.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/chris-cadden-is-a-hibee
My source may not be the quickest, but it's 100% reliable.
Ronniekirk
15-01-2021, 07:05 PM
Great week and two fantastic signings.
Irvine I’m led to believe we have another year with if things works out. World Cup next year and all that.
Would be happy with that if that’s true He just needs game time and played in best position but needs games to get up to speed so won’t hit ground running, Bit of patience needed
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04Sauzee
15-01-2021, 07:07 PM
So who's next 😁
A striker and I'd be happy with this window
Lancs Harp
15-01-2021, 07:07 PM
Not always easy to do business in the January window, think we've done well. The proof will be in the pudding obviously but from the offset looks very promising. Well done Hibs.
:flag:
Andy74
15-01-2021, 07:24 PM
A good weeks work for the football department at Hibs.
Maybe when Malonga is back...
The Spaceman
15-01-2021, 07:30 PM
So who's next 😁
A striker and I'd be happy with this window
Nisbet, Doidge, Gullan and Boyle should give us enough cover IMO. We are in the middle of a crisis for a our game and cash will be very tight for everyone! Think Hibs have done brilliant business over both this window and last considering this.
1875Sean
15-01-2021, 07:33 PM
Fraser Murray on the bench again, wonder if we can recall him and send him elsewhere for more game time?
Dashing Bob S
15-01-2021, 07:40 PM
Not a bad transfer round for January. The lack of midfield running power and aggression has been addressed by Ross and will hopefully add the requisite dimension that will see us compete realistically for the League Cup and 3rd spot.
Smartie
15-01-2021, 07:44 PM
Jack Ross does have a decent knack for addressing the biggest problem in the team first during every transfer window.
Obviously until we have the best team in the land, as he fixes something another problem becomes more prominent but I like the way he does his transfer business.
It feels more like what worked so well under Stubbs and has been various shades of garbage under most other managers for at least 10 years.
Since452
15-01-2021, 07:45 PM
Maybe when Malonga is back...
What a man
GreenCastle
15-01-2021, 07:46 PM
I don't know much about Cadden so out of interest, how confident are you that he isn't good defensively?
I thought I read something about him being a right back or playing as a wing back with a bit of dig to him? Just based on what I've read I'm not expecting him to play similar to Horgan at all really, although I'll be the first to say I'm not the best informed on him.
He’s just more forward thinking - which isn’t a bad thing. He’s not awful defensively but I expect we will talk more about his attacking play.
Watched him play for Columbus and while at Motherwell.
What I like about both players they are strong and have character - trying not to get hopes up but have a good feeling about them both.
MagicSwirlingShip
15-01-2021, 07:53 PM
Maybe when Malonga is back...
We live in hope.
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 07:59 PM
We live in hope.
He’s pumping my ex just now and I’ve just passed him a Bacon roll. Still doesn’t care about the Rangers 👌
Pedantic_Hibee
15-01-2021, 08:01 PM
Maybe when Malonga is back...
I miss that man more than I care to admit.
CMurdoch
15-01-2021, 08:08 PM
Maybe when Malonga is back...
Aged 32 now
Hasn't had a club since July.
B.H.F.C
15-01-2021, 08:10 PM
There must be some outgoings to balance things a bit you’d think.
We don’t have a huge squad but it’s a bit unbalanced. I think we have 7 central midfielders, granted a couple of them have missed most of the season but hopefully are on the way back. Then we’ve got three left backs and three players who have played most of their football on the right hand side. On the flip side, we don’t really have any competition at centre half.
Be interesting to see if Ross can find the right shape and personnel for the remainder of the season. I think he needs to try and find a settled team.
The 90+2
15-01-2021, 08:10 PM
Aged 32 now
Hasn't had a club since July.
Still does a job
BegbieHSC
15-01-2021, 08:23 PM
I’m actually really chuffed with the squad we have now after our January additions.
Let’s get a good run of form and bring that League cup home, and give us something to smile about, and briefly forget about the horrible times we’re living in!
Vault Boy
15-01-2021, 08:30 PM
Warm welcome to Chris, think he'll be a very good signing for us.
Can hibs.net claim the assist for this one? I reckon so. :greengrin
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BroxburnHibee
15-01-2021, 08:31 PM
Whats all this Lafferty chatter? Surely not?
HibbyAndy
15-01-2021, 08:33 PM
Whats all this Lafferty chatter? Surely not?
The latter
MWHIBBIES
15-01-2021, 08:37 PM
Whats all this Lafferty chatter? Surely not?
Just trolling, zero chance it happens
Borderhibbie76
15-01-2021, 08:44 PM
I’m actually really chuffed with the squad we have now after our January additions.
Let’s get a good run of form and bring that League cup home, and give us something to smile about, and briefly forget about the horrible times we’re living in!
Here here mate
CMurdoch
15-01-2021, 09:08 PM
Still does a job
Hard to believe Dom left 5 years ago!
CMurdoch
15-01-2021, 09:09 PM
Warm welcome to Chris, think he'll be a very good signing for us.
Can hibs.net claim the assist for this one? I reckon so. :greengrin
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:top marksthat is brilliant
Fraser Murray on the bench again, wonder if we can recall him and send him elsewhere for more game time?
TBH if he can't get a regular starting spot there he'll probably struggle when he gets back, I had high hopes for Fraser but it maybe another case of a young lad levelling out and finding his level which isn't at Hibs. You see how Porteous has taken his opportunity, Gullan is at the stage Fraser was at nad needs to show improvement when he gets a chance, Doig has certainly looked good but still raw and Mackie has shown his loan spell was good for him.
Magpie
15-01-2021, 09:56 PM
Where does Ross rank in terms of being backed with signings compared to previous managers?
04Sauzee
15-01-2021, 10:07 PM
Celtic forward Cameron Harper is close to agreeing a pre-contract with New York Red Bulls.
He was offered a new contract by Celtic, but wanted assurances of first team action.
Red Bulls confident of deal & I'm told they haven't ruled out a switch in time for new MLS season.
bigwheel
15-01-2021, 10:10 PM
Celtic forward Cameron Harper is close to agreeing a pre-contract with New York Red Bulls.
He was offered a new contract by Celtic, but wanted assurances of first team action.
Red Bulls confident of deal & I'm told they haven't ruled out a switch in time for new MLS season.
He looked a clever young player - but going off with cramp after 60 mins is never a good look
Hibee Mac
15-01-2021, 10:28 PM
He’s just more forward thinking - which isn’t a bad thing. He’s not awful defensively but I expect we will talk more about his attacking play.
Watched him play for Columbus and while at Motherwell.
What I like about both players they are strong and have character - trying not to get hopes up but have a good feeling about them both.
Cheers! I'm looking forward to seeing him, it sounds like him and Irvine are going to bring some much needed athleticism and drive to the midfield which has been lacking a bit recently.
hibbysam
15-01-2021, 10:57 PM
He looked a clever young player - but going off with cramp after 60 mins is never a good look
Remembering there is no reserve league, so he won’t have played a competitive game of football in yonks, on a heavy pitch, against a very physical back line. I’m sure he’s still fairly young as well, so it’s not overly surprising he went down with cramp.
jacomo
15-01-2021, 11:17 PM
Maybe when Malonga is back...
That would be amazing.
jacomo
15-01-2021, 11:18 PM
Remembering there is no reserve league, so he won’t have played a competitive game of football in yonks, on a heavy pitch, against a very physical back line. I’m sure he’s still fairly young as well, so it’s not overly surprising he went down with cramp.
Good point.
ekhibee
16-01-2021, 12:55 AM
As far as Cadden goes, I think he'll be a good signing. Whenever I saw him playing for Well I got the distinct impression that he wasn't the finished article, that there was more to come. I hope I was right!
The 90+2
16-01-2021, 01:29 AM
As far as Cadden goes, I think he'll be a good signing. Whenever I saw him playing for Well I got the distinct impression that he wasn't the finished article, that there was more to come. I hope I was right!
Aye but what about King Dom?
The picture of him with the Scottish cup when he scored in the first round of a he journey would make my life complete.
bigwheel
16-01-2021, 03:25 AM
Remembering there is no reserve league, so he won’t have played a competitive game of football in yonks, on a heavy pitch, against a very physical back line. I’m sure he’s still fairly young as well, so it’s not overly surprising he went down with cramp.
Yep. Fair enough [emoji106]
Gaffer1875
16-01-2021, 06:28 AM
Anyone else just ‘meh’ with Malonga? Great player on his day but was hardly prolific!
Would love a striker to come in and would be happy to see Mackie / Gullan leave on loan.
With Allan coming back, IMO we have a stronger squad than Aberdeen.
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Magpie
16-01-2021, 06:45 AM
Anyone else just ‘meh’ with Malonga? Great player on his day but was hardly prolific!
Would love a striker to come in and would be happy to see Mackie / Gullan leave on loan.
With Allan coming back, IMO we have a stronger squad than Aberdeen.
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He was one of those players who could get you off your seat when he’s on the ball. His goal against Aberdeen was one of the best I’ve seen at ER.
Since90+2
16-01-2021, 07:11 AM
Remembering there is no reserve league, so he won’t have played a competitive game of football in yonks, on a heavy pitch, against a very physical back line. I’m sure he’s still fairly young as well, so it’s not overly surprising he went down with cramp.
Do we have a very physical backline? I'd not describe Hanlon, McGinn,Doig/Stevenson as very physical. Only Porteous fits that description.
superfurryhibby
16-01-2021, 08:36 AM
Do we have a very physical backline? I'd not describe Hanlon, McGinn,Doig/Stevenson as very physical. Only Porteous fits that description.
I would say Stevenson plays in a robust manner, it’s just that he does it without histrionics.
I still expect more action in this window. There must be some players on their way out, surely?
Callum_62
16-01-2021, 08:39 AM
Ross Stewart and I'd be more than happy with our business
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Gmack7
16-01-2021, 08:49 AM
Were Murphy and Cadden at Motherwell at the same time?
Magpie
16-01-2021, 08:51 AM
Were Murphy and Cadden at Motherwell at the same time?
Cadden made his debut about 15 months after Murphy left.
Vault Boy
16-01-2021, 08:55 AM
Cadden made his debut about 15 months after Murphy left.
I think that's right, though Cadden would have been in the youth team for a number of years whilst Murphy was there so I'd assume they know one another pretty well. Never hurts to have some familiar faces about when you're trying to settle!
Greenbeard
16-01-2021, 09:08 AM
I would say Stevenson plays in a robust manner, it’s just that he does it without histrionics.
I still expect more action in this window. There must be some players on their way out, surely?
You'd think so. Given the circumstances it is a bit surprising that we have signed both Jackson and Cadden and makes me think at least one, maybe two, will be shifted out. Ross said as much 2-3 weeks ago ie he hoped to bring some in but it would depend on movement out.
With Newell still not signed on an extension I suspect he could be on the move so we at least get a small fee and help balance the wages books.
January exit Hibookies odds:
Newell 6/4
James 2/1
Murray 5/2
Wright 7/2
Hallberg 5/1
Mallan 5/1
hibbysam
16-01-2021, 09:08 AM
Do we have a very physical backline? I'd not describe Hanlon, McGinn,Doig/Stevenson as very physical. Only Porteous fits that description.
Hanlon is very physical, gets tight, big laddie, puts his tackles in, McGinn the same, and Stevenson gets stuck in as well. None of our defenders really sit off, they all get tight to their men and put their challenges in. They’re all experienced as well, young laddie coming in, there would have been a few bumps and barges to make sure he felt it all.
Magpie
16-01-2021, 09:13 AM
You'd think so. Given the circumstances it is a bit surprising that we have signed both Jackson and Cadden and makes me think at least one, maybe two, will be shifted out. Ross said as much 2-3 weeks ago ie he hoped to bring some in but it would depend on movement out.
With Newell still not signed on an extension I suspect he could be on the move so we at least get a small fee and help balance the wages books.
January exit Hibookies odds:
Newell 6/4
James 2/1
Murray 5/2
Wright 7/2
Hallberg 5/1
Mallan 5/1
Tom James is due back with us tomorrow. I haven’t seen anything regarding him extending his deal with Wigan?
H18 SFR
16-01-2021, 09:17 AM
Anyone else just ‘meh’ with Malonga? Great player on his day but was hardly prolific!
Would love a striker to come in and would be happy to see Mackie / Gullan leave on loan.
With Allan coming back, IMO we have a stronger squad than Aberdeen.
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Malonga strikes me as one of those players who has become better in the opinion of the fans since he left.
Since90+2
16-01-2021, 09:20 AM
Hanlon is very physical, gets tight, big laddie, puts his tackles in, McGinn the same, and Stevenson gets stuck in as well. None of our defenders really sit off, they all get tight to their men and put their challenges in. They’re all experienced as well, young laddie coming in, there would have been a few bumps and barges to make sure he felt it all.
Don't agree with that at all but respect your opinion. Hanlon is about a million miles away from being very physical for me. Very physical centre halfs are guys like McKenna, Gallagher, McGregor. Hanlon has struggled physically for years against big centre forwards.
hibbysam
16-01-2021, 09:28 AM
Don't agree with that at all but respect your opinion. Hanlon is about a million miles away from being very physical for me. Very physical centre halfs are guys like McKenna, Gallagher, McGregor. Hanlon has struggled physically for years against big centre forwards.
Hanlon used to struggle against big centre forwards, years ago. He wins just about every dual he has with big centre forwards now. Hanlon struggles when someone gets turned against him now (Ross county for example).
Phil MaGlass
16-01-2021, 09:31 AM
You'd think so. Given the circumstances it is a bit surprising that we have signed both Jackson and Cadden and makes me think at least one, maybe two, will be shifted out. Ross said as much 2-3 weeks ago ie he hoped to bring some in but it would depend on movement out.
With Newell still not signed on an extension I suspect he could be on the move so we at least get a small fee and help balance the wages books.
January exit Hibookies odds:
Newell 6/4
James 2/1
Murray 5/2
Wright 7/2
Hallberg 5/1
Mallan 5/1
what no Marciano?
CockneyRebel
16-01-2021, 09:34 AM
Malonga strikes me as one of those players who has become better in the opinion of the fans since he left.
Unless they were really pants, nearly every player who has left has become a better player the longer they have been away. You need to remember exactly how you felt when they left and try to keep that in mind.
Hanlon used to struggle against big centre forwards, years ago. He wins just about every dual he has with big centre forwards now. Hanlon struggles when someone gets turned against him now (Ross county for example).
That's because he's bulked up a lot and lot some pace at the same time, Hanlon about 4-5 years ago was a lot thinner and got shoved around a bit, he's added muscle but lost some quickness.
Eyrie
16-01-2021, 09:42 AM
Tom James is due back with us tomorrow. I haven’t seen anything regarding him extending his deal with Wigan?
Crewe are supposed to be interested and I can't see us being difficult to deal with now that we've added Cadden. James would be fourth choice now so letting him go on a free would save his wage.
Since90+2
16-01-2021, 09:44 AM
Hanlon used to struggle against big centre forwards, years ago. He wins just about every dual he has with big centre forwards now. Hanlon struggles when someone gets turned against him now (Ross county for example).
Being bigger doesn't make you aggressive or physical. It's just not in his natural game to be a dominant center half. He's very good with the ball at his feet but he's not a dominant center half and never had been. Darren McGregor is an example of a very physical centre half, Porteous too. Hanlon is like neither of them.
Garymcl
16-01-2021, 09:50 AM
Wigan website saying they want Tom James to stay and talking to him extending contract
Andy74
16-01-2021, 09:52 AM
Malonga strikes me as one of those players who has become better in the opinion of the fans since he left.
How dare you.
Brightside
16-01-2021, 09:56 AM
Don't agree with that at all but respect your opinion. Hanlon is about a million miles away from being very physical for me. Very physical centre halfs are guys like McKenna, Gallagher, McGregor. Hanlon has struggled physically for years against big centre forwards.
He’s never struggled against physical forwards for years. Common misconception that he’s not physical. You see more forwards on the deck than Hanlon when it’s high balls toward us.
Since90+2
16-01-2021, 10:05 AM
He’s never struggled against physical forwards for years. Common misconception that he’s not physical. You see more forwards on the deck than Hanlon when it’s high balls toward us.
I'm surprised you think that.
FilipinoHibs
16-01-2021, 10:10 AM
How dare you.
That goal against Aberdeen. His amazing first touch and of course who cares about the Rangers.
Lancs Harp
16-01-2021, 10:14 AM
That goal against Aberdeen. His amazing first touch and of course who cares about the Rangers.
My favourite memory of Dom
hibbydad
16-01-2021, 10:22 AM
My favourite memory of Dom
Mine too it was a work of art
sean04
16-01-2021, 11:44 AM
Wigan want to keep Tom james, hopefully a pre contract and a wee fee to make it happen now
hibee-boys
16-01-2021, 12:05 PM
Wigan want to keep Tom james, hopefully a pre contract and a wee fee to make it happen now
Seems to have impressed down there, wonder what went wrong for him up here?
easty
16-01-2021, 12:07 PM
Seems to have impressed down there, wonder what went wrong for him up here?
The standard is worse in that level, so he’s finding it easier to fit in.
Gmack7
16-01-2021, 12:09 PM
Wigan want to keep Tom james, hopefully a pre contract and a wee fee to make it happen now
That would be a bonus but I'd be amazed if there was a fee involved
Being bigger doesn't make you aggressive or physical. It's just not in his natural game to be a dominant center half. He's very good with the ball at his feet but he's not a dominant center half and never had been. Darren McGregor is an example of a very physical centre half, Porteous too. Hanlon is like neither of them.
There's a difference between physicality and aggression, both Porteous and McGregor are aggressive as well as physical, Hanlon less aggressive but physically can hold his own against big forwards.
That would be a bonus but I'd be amazed if there was a fee involved
I think we got him on a free, so happy to tear up his contract and move.
wookie70
16-01-2021, 12:26 PM
I think we got him on a free, so happy to tear up his contract and move.Was he under contract when we got him though. Id be trying to get a fee if they wat him but wouldn't push too hard
Northernhibee
16-01-2021, 12:28 PM
The standard is worse in that level, so he’s finding it easier to fit in.
Not significantly lower IMO.
I think what it is that the Scottish game is faster paced and also more physical than down south. He never had a turn of pace about him which you need at full back up here and he was also not quite strong enough so he often looked off the pace. However in terms of positioning, technical ability and the like I rated him.
Since90+2
16-01-2021, 12:29 PM
There's a difference between physicality and aggression, both Porteous and McGregor are aggressive as well as physical, Hanlon less aggressive but physically can hold his own against big forwards.
Are they? In football terms if a player was described as very physical to me that suggests an aggressive style of play and vice versa.
Rumble de Thump
16-01-2021, 12:34 PM
We signed Tom James for an undisclosed fee.
easty
16-01-2021, 12:35 PM
Not significantly lower IMO.
I think what it is that the Scottish game is faster paced and also more physical than down south. He never had a turn of pace about him which you need at full back up here and he was also not quite strong enough so he often looked off the pace. However in terms of positioning, technical ability and the like I rated him.
His positioning and technical ability at Hampden v Celtic was Sunday amateur level at best.
He was slow, weak, and constantly caught out. I’ve watched enough league one and league two football down there to say the standard is not great. Wigan are second bottom of the league, I’m not that surprised that in a poor team, in a poor league, he’s looking half decent.
sean04
16-01-2021, 12:36 PM
Seems to have impressed down there, wonder what went wrong for him up here?
I don’t think he is that good defensively, think Wigan allow him to get forward a lot more and is having more of a positive impact
easty
16-01-2021, 12:37 PM
Are they? In football terms if a player was described as very physical to me that suggests an aggressive style of play and vice versa.
I wouldn’t say so.
Allant1981
16-01-2021, 12:37 PM
That's because he's bulked up a lot and lot some pace at the same time, Hanlon about 4-5 years ago was a lot thinner and got shoved around a bit, he's added muscle but lost some quickness.
Definitely put a bit of muscle on but if you think of big strong CH's you aren't thinking paul hanlon
superfurryhibby
16-01-2021, 12:53 PM
Definitely put a bit of muscle on but if you think of big strong CH's you aren't thinking paul hanlon
Hanlon’s size : 5ft 11 and natural build mitigates against the big part. He’s fairly short by modern centre half standards. In his early career he suffered from lack of physicality playing against big beasts like Higdon and Boyd. That’s a thing of the past though, he has bulked up and filled out, as young men do naturally from teens through their 20’s. He’s a strong player, but he ain’t no Darren MacGregor.
Anyways, back to the transfer window.
In terms of outgoings, I would lose no sleep over James, Gray, Wright, Mallan, Hallberg, Murray or Mackie finding new clubs.
Hopefully, we keep Marciano and Newell until at least the end of the season.
Given that Gogic and Mc Ginn can cover centre half and with Cadden in with the ability to play right back. I reckon we are pretty much covered everywhere.
I like the current transfer strategy, signing younger players with potential to develop or guys who should be approaching their best years works for me. Ron Gordon is obviously “ponying” up and giving Ross funds. I reckon our owner and our manager want Hibs transformed sooner rather than later. We have the basis of a very good side. If Allan can get fit again and Magennis plays regularly this season the. our midfield looks pretty impressive. I can imagine the likes of Boyle, Doidge and Nisbet will benefit enormously from the ammunition supplied from a fit Allan and a midfield runner like Irvine, who will create space by his ability to break forward.
Feeling optimistic about the direction we’re going in.
Are they? In football terms if a player was described as very physical to me that suggests an aggressive style of play and vice versa.
To me physical means strong, add in aggression and you get that wee bit extra like the solid crunching tackle that we've seen from Porto and Daz, they also have that wee bit of nastiness in them which sees them shouting down opponents ( Porto shouting at Morelos lying on the ground). Hanlon is as physically strong as the two of them but he doesn't have that aggressive bite to his game.
davhibby
16-01-2021, 01:17 PM
Wigan want to keep Tom james, hopefully a pre contract and a wee fee to make it happen now
Wigan have been in admin all season so no chance of them spending anything or planning for next season this month
Percy Vere
16-01-2021, 11:27 PM
Any chance of another signing this window?
I’m happy with the business we’ve done.
Striker perhaps?
hibbysam
16-01-2021, 11:33 PM
Being bigger doesn't make you aggressive or physical. It's just not in his natural game to be a dominant center half. He's very good with the ball at his feet but he's not a dominant center half and never had been. Darren McGregor is an example of a very physical centre half, Porteous too. Hanlon is like neither of them.
Big centre forwards are naturally physical, Main, Cosgrove etc. Hanlon dominates the majority of them. His stats speak for themselves. He doesn’t go around shoving folk or flying into tackles, but he’s very aggressive in his duals and loves the physical side to it. He’s been a dominant centre half for years now.
The Harp Awakes
16-01-2021, 11:35 PM
Any chance of another signing this window?
I’m happy with the business we’ve done.
Striker perhaps?
Definitely think we need another striker. If Nisbet gets injured I think we would struggle.
hibbysam
16-01-2021, 11:37 PM
Any chance of another signing this window?
I’m happy with the business we’ve done.
Striker perhaps?
Ross said pre match that he’s looking for more, but they all depend on outgoings. Presumably the likes of James going out again, possibly even someone like Gray if he wants regular games.
Bridge hibs
17-01-2021, 12:06 AM
Ross said pre match that he’s looking for more, but they all depend on outgoings. Presumably the likes of James going out again, possibly even someone like Gray if he wants regular games.Makes sense I think, midfield bulked up and players currently can be utilised in other areas, I would think if we can shift (if interest) one or two then we could fill those slots nearer the end of the window as more players will possibly be availiable
Ronniekirk
17-01-2021, 12:12 AM
Ross said pre match that he’s looking for more, but they all depend on outgoings. Presumably the likes of James going out again, possibly even someone like Gray if he wants regular games.
If Newell is not being sold on and Allan looks like he can get back to full fitness it’s a midfielder that needs to move on Hallberg played again today instead of Mallan so it’s got to be one of those that at least go out on loan if they don’t want to move permanently Janes staying eith Wigan won’t allow us to bring in anyone else but better he stays than comes back
Sir David isn’t going to get any game time now I don’t think so unless he is fulfilling some important backroom roll he would be better moving if he wants game time but his injury history makes that difficult Presumably
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hibbysam
17-01-2021, 12:28 AM
If Newell is not being sold on and Allan looks like he can get back to full fitness it’s a midfielder that needs to move on Hallberg played again today instead of Mallan so it’s got to be one of those that at least go out on loan if they don’t want to move permanently Janes staying eith Wigan won’t allow us to bring in anyone else but better he stays than comes back
Sir David isn’t going to get any game time now I don’t think so unless he is fulfilling some important backroom roll he would be better moving if he wants game time but his injury history makes that difficult Presumably
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Hallberg has been fairly decent for us for long spells now, don’t see him being moved on. Allan won’t be fully fit for a while yet, so your talking Newell, Irvine first choices, then Hallberg, Gogic and Mallan behind them in the pecking order. Don’t think we’ll move on any of those unless they particularly want away.
McGinn only signed a short term deal IIRC so he’ll stick around til the end of the season.
Ronniekirk
17-01-2021, 12:35 AM
Hallberg has been fairly decent for us for long spells now, don’t see him being moved on. Allan won’t be fully fit for a while yet, so your talking Newell, Irvine first choices, then Hallberg, Gogic and Mallan behind them in the pecking order. Don’t think we’ll move on any of those unless they particularly want away.
McGinn only signed a short term deal IIRC so he’ll stick around til the end of the season.
So we may not bring any more players in as it’s clear to do that we need to move someone out Mallan can’t be happy with how little game time he is getting
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hibbysam
17-01-2021, 08:19 AM
So we may not bring any more players in as it’s clear to do that we need to move someone out Mallan can’t be happy with how little game time he is getting
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I think there will be a couple wanting out, Gray for example, possibly Mallan but I doubt that. I’m not saying no one will want out and if so we would accommodate, I just don’t we’d be actively trying to get rid of players who are on the fringes when our squad is thin, but if they want away then we would let them for the right offer I’d imagine.
Unseen work
17-01-2021, 08:37 AM
The thing with Mallan is that he’s a very good technical player and very useful to have in the team, although I can’t see him being a permanent starter for us at the moment. Will he be happy to get the odd start here and there and make sub appearances?
He would walk into all the teams in the SPFL with the exception of the current top 4. If he was to leave we could likely get some money or more realistically use him as a swap to get a player we want - Jason Kerr, Stuart Findlay, Allan Campbell, Ross Stewart etc.
Being greedy id like to keep him as we need players of his quality to step in and provide genuine competition.
I think we’ll see James, Gray and Mackie move on either permanently or on loan, Mackie is unfortunate as he was looking really good but Doigs improvement and Stevenson’s new deal may see him deemed surplus to requirements. Potential loan for Gullan too but we are a striker short anyway at the moment imo.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 08:40 AM
The thing with Mallan is that he’s a very good technical player and very useful to have in the team, although I can’t see him being a permanent starter for us at the moment. Will he be happy to get the odd start here and there and make sub appearances?
He would walk into all the teams in the SPFL with the exception of the current top 4. If he was to leave we could likely get some money or more realistically use him as a swap to get a player we want - Jason Kerr, Stuart Findlay, Allan Campbell, Ross Stewart etc.
Being greedy id like to keep him as we need players of his quality to step in and provide genuine competition.
I think we’ll see James, Gray and Mackie move on either permanently or on loan, Mackie is unfortunate as he was looking really good but Doigs improvement and Stevenson’s new deal may see him deemed surplus to requirements. Potential loan for Gullan too but we are a striker short anyway at the moment imo.
Lewis has been given a one year deal, that to me says the club know he’s nearing the end, he’ll play in small chunks but mostly mentoring. I doubt Sean will go out again. Once he’s fully fit he’ll be back in the reckoning like he was prior, Josh will still go through some sticky spells, and we don’t really have anyone that would fit into left back if Sean left and two of them were out suspended or injured.
I’d love to keep Mallan as well, often changes games off the bench but gets lost when starting, however his technical ability is second to none and is an asset. All depends on what he wants to do.
hibbydog
17-01-2021, 08:48 AM
Hanlon’s size : 5ft 11 and natural build mitigates against the big part. He’s fairly short by modern centre half standards. In his early career he suffered from lack of physicality playing against big beasts like Higdon and Boyd. That’s a thing of the past though, he has bulked up and filled out, as young men do naturally from teens through their 20’s. He’s a strong player, but he ain’t no Darren MacGregor.
Anyways, back to the transfer window.
In terms of outgoings, I would lose no sleep over James, Gray, Wright, Mallan, Hallberg, Murray or Mackie finding new clubs.
Hopefully, we keep Marciano and Newell until at least the end of the season.
Given that Gogic and Mc Ginn can cover centre half and with Cadden in with the ability to play right back. I reckon we are pretty much covered everywhere.
I like the current transfer strategy, signing younger players with potential to develop or guys who should be approaching their best years works for me. Ron Gordon is obviously “ponying” up and giving Ross funds. I reckon our owner and our manager want Hibs transformed sooner rather than later. We have the basis of a very good side. If Allan can get fit again and Magennis plays regularly this season the. our midfield looks pretty impressive. I can imagine the likes of Boyle, Doidge and Nisbet will benefit enormously from the ammunition supplied from a fit Allan and a midfield runner like Irvine, who will create space by his ability to break forward.
Feeling optimistic about the direction we’re going in.
I like and agree with this.
It’ll be a sad day when we have to say goodbye to Sir David. My all time favourite Hibs player of all time!
.....Paragraph of over the top praise waxing lyrical about the Scottish Cup win and what it means blah blah.....
But it’s the right thing to do if we want to progress.
Not In The Know
17-01-2021, 09:00 AM
Im sure i read that he was offered a contract at Hearts but it was only going to be part time?
Didn't know that was a thing
Anyway Hibs offered him a full time gig
Edit... Looks like he wasn't offered a contract
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/josh-doig-his-hibs-breakthrough-and-taking-inspiration-hearts-pal-aaron-hickey-2950279
cheers
SMAXXA
17-01-2021, 09:17 AM
Lewis has been given a one year deal, that to me says the club know he’s nearing the end, he’ll play in small chunks but mostly mentoring. I doubt Sean will go out again. Once he’s fully fit he’ll be back in the reckoning like he was prior, Josh will still go through some sticky spells, and we don’t really have anyone that would fit into left back if Sean left and two of them were out suspended or injured.
I’d love to keep Mallan as well, often changes games off the bench but gets lost when starting, however his technical ability is second to none and is an asset. All depends on what he wants to do.
Yes we do we have Hanlon who can play there if ever toiling and Mcginn can play there also. Only so much cover for cover you can bring in
Brightside
17-01-2021, 09:27 AM
Hanlon’s size : 5ft 11 and natural build mitigates against the big part. He’s fairly short by modern centre half standards. In his early career he suffered from lack of physicality playing against big beasts like Higdon and Boyd. That’s a thing of the past though, he has bulked up and filled out, as young men do naturally from teens through their 20’s. He’s a strong player, but he ain’t no Darren MacGregor.
Anyways, back to the transfer window.
In terms of outgoings, I would lose no sleep over James, Gray, Wright, Mallan, Hallberg, Murray or Mackie finding new clubs.
Hopefully, we keep Marciano and Newell until at least the end of the season.
Given that Gogic and Mc Ginn can cover centre half and with Cadden in with the ability to play right back. I reckon we are pretty much covered everywhere.
I like the current transfer strategy, signing younger players with potential to develop or guys who should be approaching their best years works for me. Ron Gordon is obviously “ponying” up and giving Ross funds. I reckon our owner and our manager want Hibs transformed sooner rather than later. We have the basis of a very good side. If Allan can get fit again and Magennis plays regularly this season the. our midfield looks pretty impressive. I can imagine the likes of Boyle, Doidge and Nisbet will benefit enormously from the ammunition supplied from a fit Allan and a midfield runner like Irvine, who will create space by his ability to break forward.
Feeling optimistic about the direction we’re going in.
He's taller than 5ft 11.... i know wiki and other places say that but he's taller than me and i'm 5ft11. :aok:
lucky
17-01-2021, 09:28 AM
The Hibs squad just now is competitive within itself and within the league. If I was being greedy then I’d want another forward. If SDG or McGregor want out then I’d give them a free. Malian and Hallberg are the ones who need to kick on or they will be moved on in the summer. Neither are bad players but they don’t deliver consistently. We then have Drey Wright, written off by most but loved by St. Johnston fans, can he turn it around or is he another one heading for the exit. As a club next weeks game is huge. We can’t afford to lose a third semi final in a row. We’ve got an opportunity to finish top 3 and win the LC but it’s down to the manager and players to seize the opportunity. Next week is the biggest game of the season. We win we’ll kick on, lose the season will patter out.
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 09:29 AM
He's taller than 5ft 11.... i know wiki and other places say that but he's taller than me and i'm 5ft11. :aok:
He’s a lot taller than that, Paul’s a big unit when you stand next to him
superfurryhibby
17-01-2021, 09:32 AM
He's taller than 5ft 11.... i know wiki and other places say that but he's taller than me and i'm 5ft11. :aok:
Ok, 5ft 11 and 1/5th
I got his height from here.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/player/paul-hanlon-4
Either way, he’s not the tallest. As we all know size isn’t everything, it’s what you do with it :na na:
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 09:33 AM
Yes we do we have Hanlon who can play there if ever toiling and Mcginn can play there also. Only so much cover for cover you can bring in
Hanlon and McGinn - at left back? Hanlon is our best centre half just now and McGinn is as right footed as they come.
Since452
17-01-2021, 09:37 AM
The Hibs squad just now is competitive within itself and within the league. If I was being greedy then I’d want another forward. If SDG or McGregor want out then I’d give them a free. Malian and Hallberg are the ones who need to kick on or they will be moved on in the summer. Neither are bad players but they don’t deliver consistently. We then have Drey Wright, written off by most but loved by St. Johnston fans, can he turn it around or is he another one heading for the exit. As a club next weeks game is huge. We can’t afford to lose a third semi final in a row. We’ve got an opportunity to finish top 3 and win the LC but it’s down to the manager and players to seize the opportunity. Next week is the biggest game of the season. We win we’ll kick on, lose the season will patter out.
It really is a huge game. They players will be desperate to right a few wrongs from the last semi
I understand the Gray and Daz deals, they're expecting to run down their playing time and either go into coaching/ambassador roles but covid has changed all that. I also think Gray's demise has been very rapid and we've seen in the very few appearances that he's lost a lot to be at this level, it's actually quite sad really. Probably best to move down a league to Dunfermline or similar, if he's doing his badges then his contract could see him come back in that capacity.
At LB I think Doig has surprised a few with the level he's playing at seeing as he's really only had 1 season on loan at Queens Park in Div 2, he's still young and still making errors which is understandable but learning all the time and he's getting well mentored by Stevenson. Lewis realises his career is on the way down and is taking an active interest in helping Doig take over his position and the extra year shows how important he'll be for young Doig.
I worry about Mackie, he's a decent LB and has a wonderful left peg, he's bulked up well but is becoming very injury prone and has missed a lot of football. Do we keep him to challenge Doig for the LB position or do we let him go, if he goes we'll eventually need another LB as cover/challenge.
ThatDayInMay
17-01-2021, 10:18 AM
Salford keen on Tom James if he doesn’t extend his loan with Wigan.
Heisenberg
17-01-2021, 10:21 AM
Salford keen on Tom James if he doesn’t extend his loan with Wigan.
Crewe interested in a permanent transfer too and looking like losing a couple of their first choice defenders to bigger clubs. Would be delighted to get some cash for James if it’s possible.
04Sauzee
17-01-2021, 10:27 AM
Salford keen on Tom James if he doesn’t extend his loan with Wigan.
Just seen Alan Nixon report this on Twitter
Peevemor
17-01-2021, 10:28 AM
Crewe interested in a permanent transfer too and looking like losing a couple of their first choice defenders to bigger clubs. Would be delighted to get some cash for James if it’s possible.It would be good all round given that it was him that wanted to move back to England.
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 10:30 AM
It would be good all round given that it was him that wanted to move back to England.
Is he out of contract at the end of the season, does he have another year?
Callum_62
17-01-2021, 10:31 AM
Ross Stewart and Alan Campbell
Get them 2 in and it's a fantastic window
Both fit into what our appears to be our new transfer stategy
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Booked4Being-Ugly
17-01-2021, 10:36 AM
Is he out of contract at the end of the season, does he have another year?
3 year deal, so will have another year after this season.
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 10:37 AM
3 year deal, so will have another year after this season.
Ok ta, would be good for both parties if he was to move on
04Sauzee
17-01-2021, 10:38 AM
Ross Stewart and Alan Campbell
Get them 2 in and it's a fantastic window
Both fit into what our appears to be our new transfer stategy
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We really would be top heavy with midfielders if Campbell came in, plus i think he has his sights on a move down south. Will be interested to see how he plays today.
Stewart hasn't played for a bit, not sure how his injury is.
jeffers
17-01-2021, 10:51 AM
I understand the Gray and Daz deals, they're expecting to run down their playing time and either go into coaching/ambassador roles but covid has changed all that. I also think Gray's demise has been very rapid and we've seen in the very few appearances that he's lost a lot to be at this level, it's actually quite sad really. Probably best to move down a league to Dunfermline or similar, if he's doing his badges then his contract could see him come back in that capacity.
At LB I think Doig has surprised a few with the level he's playing at seeing as he's really only had 1 season on loan at Queens Park in Div 2, he's still young and still making errors which is understandable but learning all the time and he's getting well mentored by Stevenson. Lewis realises his career is on the way down and is taking an active interest in helping Doig take over his position and the extra year shows how important he'll be for young Doig.
I worry about Mackie, he's a decent LB and has a wonderful left peg, he's bulked up well but is becoming very injury prone and has missed a lot of football. Do we keep him to challenge Doig for the LB position or do we let him go, if he goes we'll eventually need another LB as cover/challenge.
I totally disagree with you re David Gray. He’s barely played after being out injured for a long time, it’s only natural he’ll be rusty. I can’t believe anyone expects him to be able to come in on rare occasions and look his best. Obviously it’s harder for any player once they get in their 30s to get up to match speed, but he’s not been given the chance to do so. I certainly can’t reach an opinion on his continued capability because he’s not been getting enough game time for me to do so.
It’s a tricky one because Paul McGinn has been excellent this season but a fit David Gray gives us a bit of steel and some much needed leadership, something I’ve felt we’ve been sadly lacking at times. And if we could get him match fit I’d have David Gray in ahead of Paul McGinn.
Dr What If?
17-01-2021, 10:53 AM
Ross Stewart and Alan Campbell
Get them 2 in and it's a fantastic window
Both fit into what our appears to be our new transfer stategy
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That would be a gilt edged 5 star window with bells on. Its already in the 'very good' category.
Gmack7
17-01-2021, 11:02 AM
Ross Stewart and Alan Campbell
Get them 2 in and it's a fantastic window
Both fit into what our appears to be our new transfer stategy
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No chance we are signing Campbell. Not with mallan Allan Hallberg Gogic Newall Irvine magennis S McGinn all lookung to play CM. unless there's a few leaving
ahibby
17-01-2021, 11:06 AM
No chance we are signing Campbell. Not with mallan Allan Hallberg Gogic Newall Irvine magennis S McGinn all lookung to play CM. unless there's a few leaving
Do we need Allan, Mallan and S McGinn?
Northernhibee
17-01-2021, 11:07 AM
Allan Campbell is the McGeouch of the Campbell/Turnbull partnership. Still a good player but improved by playing alongside his midfield partner.
Not for me.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 11:08 AM
I totally disagree with you re David Gray. He’s barely played after being out injured for a long time, it’s only natural he’ll be rusty. I can’t believe anyone expects him to be able to come in on rare occasions and look his best. Obviously it’s harder for any player once they get in their 30s to get up to match speed, but he’s not been given the chance to do so. I certainly can’t reach an opinion on his continued capability because he’s not been getting enough game time for me to do so.
It’s a tricky one because Paul McGinn has been excellent this season but a fit David Gray gives us a bit of steel and some much needed leadership, something I’ve felt we’ve been sadly lacking at times. And if we could get him match fit I’d have David Gray in ahead of Paul McGinn.
You can only be saying that through sentimentality. Paul McGinn has been one of our best players this season, Gray came on for 5 minutes and dropped us two points through sheer stupidity against Celtic. McGinn is quicker, better going forward, is part of a solid defence and there’s not a chance David Gray (match fit or not) plays in front of him.
jeffers
17-01-2021, 11:11 AM
You can only be saying that through sentimentality. Paul McGinn has been one of our best players this season, Gray came on for 5 minutes and dropped us two points through sheer stupidity against Celtic. McGinn is quicker, better going forward, is part of a solid defence and there’s not a chance David Gray (match fit or not) plays in front of him.
I’ve explained my thoughts.
Paul Hanlon clearance direct to Laxalt dropped us the two points not David Gray.
superfurryhibby
17-01-2021, 11:16 AM
Do we need Allan, Mallan and S McGinn?
Yes, we need Allan, no doubt about that.
The other two debateable, but they are there to be picked, alongside Newell, Macgennis, Hallberg, Gogic and Irvine.
We don’t need Campbell and won’t be signing him, given that we already have 8 players who play in the central midfield positions.
Brightside
17-01-2021, 11:18 AM
Ok, 5ft 11 and 1/5th
I got his height from here.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/player/paul-hanlon-4
Either way, he’s not the tallest. As we all know size isn’t everything, it’s what you do with it :na na:
Hibs just copied Wiki.... shocking stuff. :greengrin He's 183...same as Daz.
Hibee Mac
17-01-2021, 11:18 AM
The thing with Mallan is that he’s a very good technical player and very useful to have in the team, although I can’t see him being a permanent starter for us at the moment. Will he be happy to get the odd start here and there and make sub appearances?
He would walk into all the teams in the SPFL with the exception of the current top 4. If he was to leave we could likely get some money or more realistically use him as a swap to get a player we want - Jason Kerr, Stuart Findlay, Allan Campbell, Ross Stewart etc.
Being greedy id like to keep him as we need players of his quality to step in and provide genuine competition.
I think we’ll see James, Gray and Mackie move on either permanently or on loan, Mackie is unfortunate as he was looking really good but Doigs improvement and Stevenson’s new deal may see him deemed surplus to requirements. Potential loan for Gullan too but we are a striker short anyway at the moment imo.I'd be keen to move Mallan on if there was the option to include a player swap as you've suggested here. I think we could use his wage more effectively in the squad Jack Ross is building. I have a lot of confidence in what Jack is doing here as I'm very much on the same page with the signing policy in general so far, if we can free up more money to aid that then we should.
That being said I'm not sure I agree that Mallan would walk into any of the top 8 teams in the league, I think if you could separate his technical qualities from everything else then maybe yes, however we all know that football is more than that and I think his massive deficiencies in other more physical parts of the game render his extra technical prowess far less effective. I don't see a player like that fitting in well with teams scrapping in the lower half of the league, I think he'll end up in the championship in a few years and score bucket loads but end up limited by the above.
The Modfather
17-01-2021, 11:21 AM
Yes, we need Allan, no doubt about that.
The other two debateable, but they are there to be picked, alongside Newell, Macgennis, Hallberg, Gogic and Irvine.
We don’t need Campbell and won’t be signing him, given that we already have 8 players who play in the central midfield positions.
I think Campbell would be an upgrade on S McGinn, Mallan, Hallberg & Gogic. With the order of those players probably my order of priority for moving on too.
Unless Irvine isn’t here next season I can’t see us signing Campbell in any case.
Dashing Bob S
17-01-2021, 11:31 AM
I totally disagree with you re David Gray. He’s barely played after being out injured for a long time, it’s only natural he’ll be rusty. I can’t believe anyone expects him to be able to come in on rare occasions and look his best. Obviously it’s harder for any player once they get in their 30s to get up to match speed, but he’s not been given the chance to do so. I certainly can’t reach an opinion on his continued capability because he’s not been getting enough game time for me to do so.
It’s a tricky one because Paul McGinn has been excellent this season but a fit David Gray gives us a bit of steel and some much needed leadership, something I’ve felt we’ve been sadly lacking at times. And if we could get him match fit I’d have David Gray in ahead of Paul McGinn.
Can’t see SDG or Daz featuring again (in any meaningful, extensive way) and Louis is being used mainly to mentor Doig. That leaves Paul Hanlon. He’s certainly at the end of his career, but when does he go and who replaces him? I think we sign a new CH in the summer.
Callum_62
17-01-2021, 11:35 AM
We don’t need Campbell and won’t be signing him, given that we already have 8 players who play in the central midfield positions.
You obviously don't remember our fabled 'goalkeeping school'
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Callum_62
17-01-2021, 11:39 AM
We really would be top heavy with midfielders if Campbell came in, plus i think he has his sights on a move down south. Will be interested to see how he plays today.
Stewart hasn't played for a bit, not sure how his injury is.I think he's been out since 23rd December and was close to returning yesterday
I'd be surprised if we arnt making moves on both - ofcourse both will be hard to get in
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jeffers
17-01-2021, 11:40 AM
Can’t see SDG or Daz featuring again (in any meaningful, extensive way) and Louis is being used mainly to mentor Doig. That leaves Paul Hanlon. He’s certainly at the end of his career, but when does he go and who replaces him? I think we sign a new CH in the summer.
Sadly I agree re SDG and Daz.
I disagree re Paul Hanlon though, he’s only 30, no reason why he can’t play another 3-5 seasons. I do think we’ll sign another centre back though.
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 11:41 AM
I’ve explained my thoughts.
Paul Hanlon clearance direct to Laxalt dropped us the two points not David Gray.
I'm with hibbysam, Gray sold the jerseys against Celtic through giving away an unnecessary and stupid foul in a dangerous area.
Stephen McGinn did the same last week as did Laxalt shortly thereafter for our equaliser.
Callum_62
17-01-2021, 11:41 AM
Charleston Battery's Robbie Crawford who was training with us must've signed for Motherwell
Playing against Rangers right now
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04Sauzee
17-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Charleston Battery's Robbie Crawford who was training with us must've signed for Motherwell
Playing against Rangers right now
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Isn't it the boy on loan from Livingston
Callum_62
17-01-2021, 11:43 AM
Isn't it the boy on loan from LivingstonHahha so it is!
Google images strung me up there [emoji23][emoji23]
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Ross Stewart and Alan Campbell
Get them 2 in and it's a fantastic window
Both fit into what our appears to be our new transfer stategy
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Stewart yet to score from open play and Campbell is a midfielder we don't need right now.
jeffers
17-01-2021, 11:49 AM
I'm with hibbysam, Gray sold the jerseys against Celtic through giving away an unnecessary and stupid foul in a dangerous area.
Stephen McGinn did the same last week as did Laxalt shortly thereafter for our equaliser.
We’ll agree to disagree, even after DG’s foul (and I’m not defending him for that) Paul Hanlon had a simple opportunity to clear it properly and the goal doesn’t get scored. Instead he laid it on a plate for Laxalt.
thebakerboy
17-01-2021, 11:50 AM
[QUOTE=Callum_62;6424165]Charleston Battery's Robbie Crawford who was training with us must've signed for Motherwell
Playing against Rangers right now
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The Robbie Crawford playing for Well is 32 so dont think it the American lad
I totally disagree with you re David Gray. He’s barely played after being out injured for a long time, it’s only natural he’ll be rusty. I can’t believe anyone expects him to be able to come in on rare occasions and look his best. Obviously it’s harder for any player once they get in their 30s to get up to match speed, but he’s not been given the chance to do so. I certainly can’t reach an opinion on his continued capability because he’s not been getting enough game time for me to do so.
It’s a tricky one because Paul McGinn has been excellent this season but a fit David Gray gives us a bit of steel and some much needed leadership, something I’ve felt we’ve been sadly lacking at times. And if we could get him match fit I’d have David Gray in ahead of Paul McGinn.
I agree re Gray but the few times he's been on he's looked really slow and seemed to have regressed a lot, that's why I'm questioning if this is his level anymore. If he has ambitions to coach after his contract then maybe a loan to the championship would give him the matches he wants but at this moment he's stagnating into retirement.
jeffers
17-01-2021, 11:58 AM
I agree re Gray but the few times he's been on he's looked really slow and seemed to have regressed a lot, that's why I'm questioning if this is his level anymore. If he has ambitions to coach after his contract then maybe a loan to the championship would give him the matches he wants but at this moment he's stagnating into retirement.
I’d put it down to lack of game time J-C, but I suppose it’s a pointless discussion because I don’t see him getting the chance to get those games.
Callum_62
17-01-2021, 11:59 AM
I can't see David Gray making much of a contribution on the pitch unfortunately
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CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 12:07 PM
Can’t see SDG or Daz featuring again (in any meaningful, extensive way) and Louis is being used mainly to mentor Doig. That leaves Paul Hanlon. He’s certainly at the end of his career, but when does he go and who replaces him? I think we sign a new CH in the summer.
It was evident that SDG was done at our level when he was given his contract. Should have been allowed to leave but promised a role at Hibs once his playing career was over. That would have been better for both parties. Daz was pretty finished as well due to his chronic knee issues which dictate his training regime. He is a great communicator so I can see him seamlessly moving into another role at the club at the end of the season. He probably has a role as cover until then.
No chance Stephen McGinn gets a game now so if another team wants him that can safely happen as well.
Bradley should go on loan to get game time.
James might be able to be sold for the £100k we were alleged to have paid for him if Salford are actually interested but I have my doubts.
Dabrowski should go back out on loan to Dumbarton once we know Rocky is fit. That is unless Dumbarton have taken corrective action by then.
The rest probably have a role until summer.
I believe Magennis & Mackie will be fit soon.
It would be good if we could bring in a decent striker but it will be a tough ask.
Dr What If?
17-01-2021, 12:10 PM
I'm with hibbysam, Gray sold the jerseys against Celtic through giving away an unnecessary and stupid foul in a dangerous area.
Stephen McGinn did the same last week as did Laxalt shortly thereafter for our equaliser.
Credit where credits due, the ref won the point for Celtic that day.....a ridiculous penalty decision and them letting them retake the free kick because our players were being fouled in the box.
Alex Trager
17-01-2021, 12:26 PM
The Hibs squad just now is competitive within itself and within the league. If I was being greedy then I’d want another forward. If SDG or McGregor want out then I’d give them a free. Malian and Hallberg are the ones who need to kick on or they will be moved on in the summer. Neither are bad players but they don’t deliver consistently. We then have Drey Wright, written off by most but loved by St. Johnston fans, can he turn it around or is he another one heading for the exit. As a club next weeks game is huge. We can’t afford to lose a third semi final in a row. We’ve got an opportunity to finish top 3 and win the LC but it’s down to the manager and players to seize the opportunity. Next week is the biggest game of the season. We win we’ll kick on, lose the season will patter out.
We lose next week we still have the Scottish cup and league (3rd) to play for.
Far from over imo
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Credit where credits due, the ref won the point for Celtic that day.....a ridiculous penalty decision and them letting them retake the free kick because our players were being fouled in the box.
Nah,
McGinn was unlucky .
Gray came on over stimulated and needlessly knocked a player over in a prime area as we were playing out the game.
Free kicks and corners are forever stopped or retaken when the referee sees wrestling in the box that was no different.
It didn't suit us but it wasn't unusual.
Alex Trager
17-01-2021, 12:29 PM
We really would be top heavy with midfielders if Campbell came in, plus i think he has his sights on a move down south. Will be interested to see how he plays today.
Stewart hasn't played for a bit, not sure how his injury is.
I’d agree re campbell but said on another thread I’d be keen to get him on a pre contract.
With Irvine set to leave in the summer we need that kind of zippy energy in there.
Campbell on a pre would be great.
P.S. I think the window has been great so far.
Jonnyboy
17-01-2021, 12:31 PM
Can’t see SDG or Daz featuring again (in any meaningful, extensive way) and Louis is being used mainly to mentor Doig. That leaves Paul Hanlon. He’s certainly at the end of his career, but when does he go and who replaces him? I think we sign a new CH in the summer.
Sorry Bob, can’t agree that Paul is at the end of his career. At 30 he’s nearer to the peak of his career in my opinion.
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 12:35 PM
Sorry Bob, can’t agree that Paul is at the end of his career. At 30 he’s nearer to the peak of his career in my opinion.
John, he’s 31 on Wednesday😀
Dr What If?
17-01-2021, 12:38 PM
Nah,
McGinn was unlucky .
Gray came on over stimulated and needlessly knocked a player over in a prime area as we were playing out the game.
Free kicks and corners are forever stopped or retaken when the referee sees wrestling in the box that was no different.
It didn't suit us but it wasn't unusual.
Actually, if anything it shows how inconsistent the hand ball rule is. I watched the Scotland v Finland womens game the following week and there was an almost identical hand ball in the middle of the park, only far far more obvious. Ref was right in front of it and played on as if nothing happened.....no one complained, game went on. Not that I'm still bitter or anything :greengrin
Hermit Crab
17-01-2021, 12:39 PM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kyle-lafferty-hibs-how-fans-19633313?utm_source=whatsapp.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
Jonnyboy
17-01-2021, 12:40 PM
John, he’s 31 on Wednesday😀
So he’s 30 at the moment then 😁
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 12:44 PM
So he’s 30 at the moment then 😁
Aye ok then
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 12:52 PM
Sorry Bob, can’t agree that Paul is at the end of his career. At 30 he’s nearer to the peak of his career in my opinion.
This has been one of Hanlons best seasons possibly even his very best.
Will certainly be our left sided centre half next season and if he can avoid injury could be here for a few seasons yet.
When players start to go over the hill it's pretty evident. I saw it in Gray 18 months ago and McGregor a year ago due to injuries. The first cracks have started to appear in Stevenson and he will be assessed season on season. Hanlon has been lazily included with these guys because he is associated with them.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 12:55 PM
This has been one of Hanlons best seasons possibly even his very best.
Will certainly be our left sided centre half next season and if he can avoid injury could be here for a few seasons yet.
When players start to go over the hill it's pretty evident. I saw it in Gray 18 months ago and McGregor a year ago due to injuries. The first cracks have started to appear in Stevenson and he will be assessed season on season. Hanlon has been lazily included with these guys because he is associated with them.
And when he makes the very odd mistake it often leads to a goal and then we get the finished chat all over again, completely ignoring how good he is 95% of the time, and wanting him replaced by defenders who have been hopeless for long spells this season.
Brightside
17-01-2021, 01:00 PM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kyle-lafferty-hibs-how-fans-19633313?utm_source=whatsapp.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
No matter how much you want this to happen - it won’t. 😂
NC1875
17-01-2021, 01:04 PM
Did Ross have Lafferty at Sunderland?
Remember him being there at some point.
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 01:04 PM
Actually, if anything it shows how inconsistent the hand ball rule is. I watched the Scotland v Finland womens game the following week and there was an almost identical hand ball in the middle of the park, only far far more obvious. Ref was right in front of it and played on as if nothing happened.....no one complained, game went on. Not that I'm still bitter or anything :greengrin
:greengrin
I was gutted when they got the equaliser.
I hate when we are ahead and get deeper and deeper.
Had we kept playing normally that day we would probably have won 2-0.
Celtic didn't look like scoring. But as soon as you play deep you are under constant attack and bad things inevitably happen.
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 01:10 PM
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His race is run and I don't think Ross does babysitting so no chance of this happening.
Might end up at Hamilton.
blackpoolhibs
17-01-2021, 02:34 PM
John, he’s 31 on Wednesday😀
He shares his birthday with me, i'm slightly older. :wink:
basehibby
17-01-2021, 02:56 PM
I'm with hibbysam, Gray sold the jerseys against Celtic through giving away an unnecessary and stupid foul in a dangerous area.
Stephen McGinn did the same last week as did Laxalt shortly thereafter for our equaliser.
The incident leading to the Celtic goal was entirely down to crap refereeing - McGinn won the ball cleanly and fairly as clearly demonstrated by the slomo-replays and entirely ignored by the OF obsessed muppets doing the commentating.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 02:58 PM
The incident leading to the Celtic goal was entirely down to crap refereeing - McGinn won the ball cleanly and fairly as clearly demonstrated by the slomo-replays and entirely ignored by the OF obsessed muppets doing the commentating.
Aye but what about the goal that we are talking about, the home 2-2 game? 😂
Tyler Durden
17-01-2021, 02:59 PM
Reliable Sky journo Lyall Thomas now reporting James is off to Salford on loan for remainder of season.
Wigan unable to agree an extension so presumably Salford are willing to pay more of his wage (hopefully all) compared to Wigan.
basehibby
17-01-2021, 03:13 PM
Aye but what about the goal that we are talking about, the home 2-2 game? 😂
I was responding to CMurdoch's reference to McGinn in the recent match. As it goes , in the 2-2 game the equaliser was largely down to an off the pace David Gray giving away a foul in a dangerous area. There's been plenty talk saying his time's up at this level and that was about the first time I was seriously convinced - he's always been a player that would run through walls for the team but he just doesn't have the legs anymore it seems.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 03:18 PM
I was responding to CMurdoch's reference to McGinn in the recent match. As it goes , in the 2-2 game the equaliser was largely down to an off the pace David Gray giving away a foul in a dangerous area. There's been plenty talk saying his time's up at this level and that was about the first time I was seriously convinced - he's always been a player that would run through walls for the team but he just doesn't have the legs anymore it seems.
Apologies, missed that line in the previous post, still thought we were on about the Gray foul.
Magpie
17-01-2021, 03:23 PM
Mesut Özil looks set to leave Arsenal, announced as a Fenerbahce player tomorrow.
The Count
17-01-2021, 03:26 PM
Looks like what is being said is true i will not be at Easter Road when the team is read out on the tannoy as Macy Gray
MWHIBBIES
17-01-2021, 03:32 PM
Mesut Özil looks set to leave Arsenal, announced as a Fenerbahce player tomorrow.
Shame how that story has ended. Had a really good 4 years there but last few have been disasterous.
CMurdoch
17-01-2021, 03:34 PM
Apologies, missed that line in the previous post, still thought we were on about the Gray foul.
It was similar in that the foul was committed by a substitute who had just come onto the pitch. I haven't looked at the incident from Monday again so I will see if I can have another look at it. Fortunately Laxalt blew it at the other end in similar fashion and let us back in.
Looks like what is being said is true i will not be at Easter Road when the team is read out on the tannoy as Macy Gray
😁 When Jimmy O was running our reserve team he always made sure that 2 player's names followed each other, Farmer and Brown!!
Stevie Reid
17-01-2021, 04:24 PM
Can’t see SDG or Daz featuring again (in any meaningful, extensive way) and Louis is being used mainly to mentor Doig. That leaves Paul Hanlon. He’s certainly at the end of his career, but when does he go and who replaces him? I think we sign a new CH in the summer.
Darren McGregor was 30 when we signed him, and we got a good few years out of him. Hanlon got plenty left I think.
Gmack7
17-01-2021, 05:14 PM
Darren McGregor was 30 when we signed him, and we got a good few years out of him. Hanlon got plenty left I think.
Are you sure he was 30 when we signed him. I'm not
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 05:17 PM
Are you sure he was 30 when we signed him. I'm not
He had just turned 30.
Gmack7
17-01-2021, 07:15 PM
He had just turned 30.
I never realised he was that age. I had him a couple of years younger than that
Iggy Pope
17-01-2021, 07:22 PM
I never realised he was that age. I had him a couple of years younger than that
Very late developer in the game to be fair. And fit as the butchers dug.
04Sauzee
17-01-2021, 07:28 PM
Wonder if we will see any signings this week or if that would be a distraction with the semi final coming up?
Dazzjw1875
17-01-2021, 07:55 PM
Wonder if we will see any signings this week or if that would be a distraction with the semi final coming up?
I think we still require a ST and a CH but I cannot see any more movement until nearer the end of the window and after we have shifted 2-4 players out the door perm or loans.
Billy Whizz
17-01-2021, 07:56 PM
Wonder if we will see any signings this week or if that would be a distraction with the semi final coming up?
It’s a good point, think everything this week will focus on the semi
Unless Messi is signing, no one will go straight into the team for Saturday night
Winston Ingram
17-01-2021, 08:36 PM
Shame how that story has ended. Had a really good 4 years there but last few have been disasterous.
I’d say the first 2 were decent. The rest were average with some excellent performances at home v middle to bottom end sides
MWHIBBIES
17-01-2021, 08:42 PM
I’d say the first 2 were decent. The rest were average with some excellent performances at home v middle to bottom end sides
He was 1 assist off the premier league record in his 3rd season. Miles above average. First 4 were really good. Then it was average with some excellent games. Since Wenger left it's been a disaster.
Winston Ingram
17-01-2021, 08:58 PM
He was 1 assist off the premier league record in his 3rd season. Miles above average. First 4 were really good. Then it was average with some excellent games. Since Wenger left it's been a disaster.
He’s a bit of a specialist subject for me. I am Spurs fans and I’ve got a couple of pals who are Arsenal fans who were adamant he was miles better than Christian Eriksen. Anyway, they were pretty much tit for tat goals and assists wise and at the start of the 15/16 season, Ozil went off the scale. For 4 months he was incredible. I was about to admit that he was better then he fell off a cliff. Of the 19 assists he got that season, 18 were in that 4 months. Outside of that 4 months he was bang average. Flat track bully against the diddies at the Emirates and a largely a passenger away from home. Eriksen pissed all over his stats in the end.
Their PL stats - Eriksen ended up with 51 goals & 62 assists, Ozil 33 goals & 52 assists. More than a 3rd of Ozils assists happened in that 4 month period.
Magpie
17-01-2021, 09:19 PM
He’s a bit of a specialist subject for me. I am Spurs fans and I’ve got a couple of pals who are Arsenal fans who were adamant he was miles better than Christian Eriksen. Anyway, they were pretty much tit for tat goals and assists wise and at the start of the 15/16 season, Ozil went off the scale. For 4 months he was incredible. I was about to admit that he was better then he fell off a cliff. Of the 19 assists he got that season, 18 were in that 4 months. Outside of that 4 months he was bang average. Flat track bully against the diddies at the Emirates and a largely a passenger away from home. Eriksen pissed all over his stats in the end.
Their PL stats - Eriksen ended up with 51 goals & 62 assists, Ozil 33 goals & 52 assists. More than a 3rd of Ozils assists happened in that 4 month period.
Both good players but Özil is the better of the two for me. It was in fact 54 assists he had according to the official premier league page. Özil also played 42 games less and 3,056 minutes less than Eriksen.
Özil has also been a lot more successful. He was instrumental in Madrid and Germany’s success.
Winston Ingram
17-01-2021, 09:32 PM
Both good players but Özil is the better of the two for me. It was in fact 54 assists he had according to the official premier league page. Özil also played 42 games less and 3,056 minutes less than Eriksen.
Özil has also been a lot more successful. He was instrumental in Madrid and Germany’s success.
Sorry, it is 54 assists. I’m only really commenting on his Arsenal career.
If your comparing the pair of them in the premier league then there’s only one winner as if you average them out in goal contributions per game Eriksen still pisses all over him
Eriksen was brilliant in big games. I remember him scoring v Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, City. In the Champions League he was brilliant as well.
It’s not even a contest.
jacomo
17-01-2021, 10:51 PM
He was 1 assist off the premier league record in his 3rd season. Miles above average. First 4 were really good. Then it was average with some excellent games. Since Wenger left it's been a disaster.
Fair enough. He’d achieved a wee bit in the game before he arrived at Arsenal top of course. A really quality player and it is a shame he’s barely played for a year.
MWHIBBIES
18-01-2021, 04:35 AM
Sorry, it is 54 assists. I’m only really commenting on his Arsenal career.
If your comparing the pair of them in the premier league then there’s only one winner as if you average them out in goal contributions per game Eriksen still pisses all over him
Eriksen was brilliant in big games. I remember him scoring v Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, City. In the Champions League he was brilliant as well.
It’s not even a contest.
Eriksen is a great player, or he was for 2/3 years. His peak wasn't better than ozils and certainly his career hasn't been either. He's just as finished as Ozil and he's 4 years younger.
I remember Ozil scoring against spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Bayern munich and winning 4 fa cups. You're right, it's not a contest. Eriksen is great but he was never as good as Ozil.
Winston Ingram
18-01-2021, 05:58 AM
Eriksen is a great player, or he was for 2/3 years. His peak wasn't better than ozils and certainly his career hasn't been either. He's just as finished as Ozil and he's 4 years younger.
I remember Ozil scoring against spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Bayern munich and winning 4 fa cups. You're right, it's not a contest. Eriksen is great but he was never as good as Ozil.
Eriksen’s just had a bad year at Inter. Ozil’s been bang average since 2015.
I just saw a stat on match of the day when they were talking about Kevin De Bruyne getting his 100th assist in all competitions since 2015. Next on that list was was Eriksen with 68. Ozil wasn’t even on the list. The last name was David Silva on 51.
Remember that goal v Bayern. It was way back in 2015 in that peak 4 months he had. I was only talking PL as a comparison as its been so long since Arsenal were in it, but since were doing it, Eriksen scored v Real Madrid, Juventus and Inter home and away.
Hibs90
18-01-2021, 05:59 AM
Eriksen is a great player, or he was for 2/3 years. His peak wasn't better than ozils and certainly his career hasn't been either. He's just as finished as Ozil and he's 4 years younger.
I remember Ozil scoring against spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Bayern munich and winning 4 fa cups. You're right, it's not a contest. Eriksen is great but he was never as good as Ozil.
I’m going to agree with you here for the first time ever.
Ozil is the better player. End of.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 08:19 AM
Transfer news LIVE: Dundee United 'join' Declan Gallagher chase as Scotland man offered big contract #DUFC
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jacomo
18-01-2021, 08:23 AM
Eriksen’s just had a bad year at Inter. Ozil’s been bang average since 2015.
I just saw a stat on match of the day when they were talking about Kevin De Bruyne getting his 100th assist in all competitions since 2015. Next on that list was was Eriksen with 68. Ozil wasn’t even on the list. The last name was David Silva on 51.
Remember that goal v Bayern. It was way back in 2015 in that peak 4 months he had. I was only talking PL as a comparison as its been so long since Arsenal were in it, but since were doing it, Eriksen scored v Real Madrid, Juventus and Inter home and away.
I think your definition of ‘bang average’ is a long way from mine. Not a phrase I would use to describe a player of his quality.
MWHIBBIES
18-01-2021, 08:34 AM
Eriksen’s just had a bad year at Inter. Ozil’s been bang average since 2015.
I just saw a stat on match of the day when they were talking about Kevin De Bruyne getting his 100th assist in all competitions since 2015. Next on that list was was Eriksen with 68. Ozil wasn’t even on the list. The last name was David Silva on 51.
Remember that goal v Bayern. It was way back in 2015 in that peak 4 months he had. I was only talking PL as a comparison as its been so long since Arsenal were in it, but since were doing it, Eriksen scored v Real Madrid, Juventus and Inter home and away.
He definitely has not been average since then. Had some excellent games and periods in that time. Eriksen was poor for a year before leaving spurs.
One of them was winning trophies for club and country in their prime. The other is an inter squad player.
The Modfather
18-01-2021, 08:57 AM
I think your definition of ‘bang average’ is a long way from mine. Not a phrase I would use to describe a player of his quality.
Arsenal bought him to take them to the next level, Ozil was probably closer to part of the reason for their continued decline than the man to take them up a level. Very talented player, but was a flat track bully for Arsenal and anonymous in nearly all Arsenals big games, away from home anyway. 4 FA cups is a poor return for what Arsenal spent on him and what they paid him IMO.
Since90+2
18-01-2021, 09:02 AM
It's all relative with Ozil. He's clearly a talented footballer who is better than the majority of even English Premier League players but at the same time for £350,000 a week you expect one of the best players in the world. He certainly hasn't been that for thr last 3 or 4 years.
If you consider Tottenham were probably paying Eriksen about 1/5 of the money Ozil was on you'd have to say he's way better value overall.
mentalhibee
18-01-2021, 09:06 AM
Transfer news LIVE: Dundee United 'join' Declan Gallagher chase as Scotland man offered big contract #DUFC
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I hope Hibs are interested, exactly what we need.
Ron's really stepping up if we're in for Ozil & Eriksen!! :wink:
BegbieHSC
18-01-2021, 09:18 AM
Wonder if we will see any signings this week or if that would be a distraction with the semi final coming up?
Would be surprised tbh.
Reckon if we sign anyone else, it’ll be in the last couple of days of the window.
Hfc_Since1875
18-01-2021, 10:21 AM
I hope Hibs are interested, exactly what we need.
Sun has Aberdeen, Hibs and Blackburn Rovers interested as well as Dundee United
jacomo
18-01-2021, 10:26 AM
It's all relative with Ozil. He's clearly a talented footballer who is better than the majority of even English Premier League players but at the same time for £350,000 a week you expect one of the best players in the world. He certainly hasn't been that for thr last 3 or 4 years.
If you consider Tottenham were probably paying Eriksen about 1/5 of the money Ozil was on you'd have to say he's way better value overall.
Yes and remains to be seen what kind of transfer fee Arsenal get for Ozil. He’s been a very expensive player for them.
Yes and remains to be seen what kind of transfer fee Arsenal get for Ozil. He’s been a very expensive player for them.
I would expect they are just happy to unload, unless they are still required to pay a large proportion of his wages.
basehibby
18-01-2021, 12:11 PM
It's all relative with Ozil. He's clearly a talented footballer who is better than the majority of even English Premier League players but at the same time for £350,000 a week you expect one of the best players in the world. He certainly hasn't been that for thr last 3 or 4 years.
If you consider Tottenham were probably paying Eriksen about 1/5 of the money Ozil was on you'd have to say he's way better value overall.
:eek: Is that REALLY how much he's paid?!? That comes to over £18 million a year and paying ANY footballer that much is beyond obscene :bitchy:
I would expect him to come with his own ready installed jetpack for that much.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 12:25 PM
:eek: Is that REALLY how much he's paid?!? That comes to over £18 million a year and paying ANY footballer that much is beyond obscene :bitchy:
I would expect him to come with his own ready installed jetpack for that much.that's what Sky Sports have been reporting, they reckon just to have him sitting in the stands for the remaining months of his contract would cost Arsenal 35 million.
Danny Drinkwater has gone to Turkey on loan from Chelsea.
He cost Chelsea a reported £35m when the signed him drom Leicester, he signed a 5 year deal and has played a handful of games dor Chelsea. I'd imagine he's on a fair wage with being a league winner and England Internationalist. Money in England is obscene
Jpdhfc
18-01-2021, 12:52 PM
Yes and remains to be seen what kind of transfer fee Arsenal get for Ozil. He’s been a very expensive player for them.
Cost them 5 million to get rid of him.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 01:07 PM
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My old man
18-01-2021, 01:13 PM
:eek: Is that REALLY how much he's paid?!? That comes to over £18 million a year and paying ANY footballer that much is beyond obscene :bitchy:
I would expect him to come with his own ready installed jetpack for that much.
Wonder if they pay him 28 days holiday or if he’s treated like a self employed gadgie??? 🤪🤪😎😜
GGTTH
Ps just having a giggle btw
basehibby
18-01-2021, 01:28 PM
Here we, here we, here we ****ing go.
Two in I reckon. Forward and a centre back.
Agreed - if we can land Gallacher and sign a good forward to back up Doidge and Nisbet and give them some competition then I think we will be sorted to push for cup glory and 3rd in the run in.
PatHead
18-01-2021, 01:40 PM
Agreed - if we can land Gallacher and sign a good forward to back up Doidge and Nisbet and give them some competition then I think we will be sorted to push for cup glory and 3rd in the run in.
Gallagher doesn't really fit the criteria of player we are signing just now. We are going for players we can sell on for a profit as they approach the end of their contact. At 29 that doesn't fit.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 01:45 PM
Gallagher doesn't really fit the criteria of player we are signing just now. We are going for players we can sell on for a profit as they approach the end of their contact. At 29 that doesn't fit.
Not every player will fit the young player profile with a potential sell on, Murphy for instance.
I think Gallagher just turned 29 this month,a 2 or 3 year deal would be fine considering he's a vurrent international.
I don't however think he's on Hibs radar
B.H.F.C
18-01-2021, 01:46 PM
Gallagher doesn't really fit the criteria of player we are signing just now. We are going for players we can sell on for a profit as they approach the end of their contact. At 29 that doesn't fit.
Not entirely, when you look at the likes of Murphy coming in.
I think if a good player becomes available that can improve us here and now we’ll go for them.
Stanton Spence
18-01-2021, 01:47 PM
Gallagher doesn't really fit the criteria of player we are signing just now. We are going for players we can sell on for a profit as they approach the end of their contact. At 29 that doesn't fit.I would like to think that whenever a player becomes available that would improve us then we would at least be inquiring. Its all good and well saying that we have a transfer policy off buying potential and hopefully selling them on for big bucks but it would be pretty daft to stick to that policy full stop.
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04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 02:20 PM
Alan Nixon
Looks like Salford have won the race for Tom James ...
ancient hibee
18-01-2021, 02:21 PM
I see a headline in the News that Hibs Australian striker made his debut on Saturday.
Numptie
18-01-2021, 02:46 PM
Chelsea just sold their longest serving player - Lucas Piazon - after 3 first team appearances. He arrived at Stamford Bridge in 2011 from Sao Paulo for around £5m and renewed his contract in 2019.
The Modfather
18-01-2021, 03:04 PM
Chelsea just sold their longest serving player - Lucas Piazon - after 3 first team appearances. He arrived at Stamford Bridge in 2011 from Sao Paulo for around £5m and renewed his contract in 2019.
10 years, must be due a testimonial 😀
Highwayman
18-01-2021, 03:15 PM
Not every player will fit the young player profile with a potential sell on, Murphy for instance.
I think Gallagher just turned 29 this month,a 2 or 3 year deal would be fine considering he's a vurrent international.
I don't however think he's on Hibs radar
Tend to agree that he’s not on Hibs radar,but let’s do a bit of whatiffery.If Hibs did manage to get him which centre back would he replace.
AugustaHibs
18-01-2021, 03:16 PM
Tend to agree that he’s not on Hibs radar,but let’s do a bit of whatiffery.If Hibs did manage to get him which centre back would he replace.
Hanlon
Since452
18-01-2021, 03:19 PM
Chelsea just sold their longest serving player - Lucas Piazon - after 3 first team appearances. He arrived at Stamford Bridge in 2011 from Sao Paulo for around £5m and renewed his contract in 2019.
They'll retire his shirt number surely
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 03:20 PM
Tend to agree that he’s not on Hibs radar,but let’s do a bit of whatiffery.If Hibs did manage to get him which centre back would he replace.
Tbh although he's playing in a 4 just now i think he always looks better on the right of a 3.
He's right footed so would be Him, Porteous and Hanlon.
If he played in a 4 it would be Porteous or we'd go with 2 right footed CB's. I know loada of clubs do it, just my preference to have a lefty and a righty ans a CB pairing.
Brightside
18-01-2021, 03:28 PM
Hanlon
You wish. :greengrin
rodhibs55
18-01-2021, 03:34 PM
Tbh although he's playing in a 4 just now i think he always looks better on the right of a 3.
He's right footed so would be Him, Porteous and Hanlon.
If he played in a 4 it would be Porteous or we'd go with 2 right footed CB's. I know loada of clubs do it, just my preference to have a lefty and a righty ans a CB pairing.
Would be a very good 3.
Hermit Crab
18-01-2021, 03:36 PM
Tom James to Salford on loan confirmed by the club.
Clarence
18-01-2021, 03:37 PM
Tend to agree that he’s not on Hibs radar,but let’s do a bit of whatiffery.If Hibs did manage to get him which centre back would he replace.
As long as it doesn’t stray into whitabootery.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 03:37 PM
🆕 Tom James has agreed a loan move to Salford City for the remainder of the season.
💚 Tom enjoyed a successful loan spell with Wigan Athletic, and we wish him all the best for the rest of the campaign.
MWHIBBIES
18-01-2021, 03:44 PM
It's all relative with Ozil. He's clearly a talented footballer who is better than the majority of even English Premier League players but at the same time for £350,000 a week you expect one of the best players in the world. He certainly hasn't been that for thr last 3 or 4 years.
If you consider Tottenham were probably paying Eriksen about 1/5 of the money Ozil was on you'd have to say he's way better value overall.
I'd say winning 4 fa cups is significantly better than a league cup runner up and Cl runners up medal. Obviously his contract renewal hasn't been worth it but overall he has been a very good player for Arsenal.
In 30 odd years, do you think Eriksen will be talked about like Ozil will? No chance. Ozil throughout his 20s was a top player, winning the world cup and many club trophies. He is the 4th highest assister since records began. Only behind Ronaldo, Messi and Suarez.
superfurryhibby
18-01-2021, 04:04 PM
🆕 Tom James has agreed a loan move to Salford City for the remainder of the season.
💚 Tom enjoyed a successful loan spell with Wigan Athletic, and we wish him all the best for the rest of the campaign.
Pity that wasn't a permanent move. It will probably mean a higher % of wages being paid by Salford though.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 04:08 PM
Pity that wasn't a permanent move. It will probably mean a higher % of wages being paid by Salford though.
Not sure what wages Salford will have to play with now that there is a salary cap in place. Hopefully qwe are getting a decent deal.
Declan Gallagher isn’t a player hibs should be looking at imo, he’s captain and a mainstay in the heart of the 3rd worst defence in the league and the club that sit 2nd bottom and is only 1 year younger than Hanlon as he turns 30 in February. Gallagher isn’t playing at the same level or even close to Hanlon this season however as he isn’t a hibs player we don’t focus as much on him therefor don’t notice small errors etc.
hibbysam
18-01-2021, 04:19 PM
Declan Gallagher isn’t a player hibs should be looking at imo, he’s captain and a mainstay in the heart of the 3rd worst defence in the league and the club that sit 2nd bottom and is only 1 year younger than Hanlon as he turns 30 in February. Gallagher isn’t playing at the same level or even close to Hanlon this season however as he isn’t a hibs player we don’t focus as much on him therefor don’t notice small errors etc.
Correct, decent signing but not one that will take us up a level. His season overall is skewed in people’s minds by his Scotland performances (outstanding) but his club games have been woeful. Probably one of those that when it comes to defending their 18 yard box he’s fine, but when it comes to playing a high line and playing out then I don’t think he’s any better than what we have already.
[QUOTE=hibbysam;6425779]Correct, decent signing but not one that will take us up a level. His season overall is skewed in people’s minds by his Scotland performances (outstanding) but his club games have been woeful. Probably one of those that when it comes to defending their 18 yard box he’s fine, but when it comes to playing a high line and playing out then I don’t think he’s any better than what we have already.[/QUOTE
He dominated it pretty well yesterday and Hibs have been doing an awful lot of that lately.
Onceinawhile
18-01-2021, 04:26 PM
Correct, decent signing but not one that will take us up a level. His season overall is skewed in people’s minds by his Scotland performances (outstanding) but his club games have been woeful. Probably one of those that when it comes to defending their 18 yard box he’s fine, but when it comes to playing a high line and playing out then I don’t think he’s any better than what we have already.
Also, whilst I appreciate that he may be reformed, he is not the type of character I wish to be associated with our team.
lord bunberry
18-01-2021, 04:28 PM
Declan Gallagher isn’t a player hibs should be looking at imo, he’s captain and a mainstay in the heart of the 3rd worst defence in the league and the club that sit 2nd bottom and is only 1 year younger than Hanlon as he turns 30 in February. Gallagher isn’t playing at the same level or even close to Hanlon this season however as he isn’t a hibs player we don’t focus as much on him therefor don’t notice small errors etc.
I very much doubt we’re looking at a starting central defender in this window, we’ve got the third best defence in the country. Anyone coming in would probably be as cover. Most clubs would be delighted to have the back line we’ve got.
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 05:18 PM
Hibs Central on twitter has Gray, McGregor, Mallan and Mackie all potentially going out on loan.
Who runs that account?
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