(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Ozyhibby]

Impeachment moves a step closer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50246324

Public hearings will be fun. Trumps twitter will be very busy.


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[Jack Hackett]

Impeachment moves a step closer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50246324

196 f***wits!

[Hibernia&Alba]

On the news tonight, I saw the U.S. president took time out of his schedule to call a phone in radio show hosted by Nigel Farage, using the time to endorse Boris Johnson. :confused:

[Fife-Hibee]

On the news tonight, I saw the U.S. president took time out of his schedule to call a phone in radio show hosted by Nigel Farage, using the time to endorse Boris Johnson. :confused:

It's almost as if the 3 of them are plotting something sinister....

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's almost as if the 3 of them are plotting something sinister....

Giving away the NHS in any future U.S. trade deal.

[Jack Hackett]

After the Big Orange Baby was booed at the baseball last week, he thought he'd try again at a UFC event


https://youtu.be/FLyJYCs1xVk

:doh:

[Cataplana]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-border-wall-holes-smugglers-sawing-power-tools-us-mexico-a9182551.html

Trumps answer will be to bomb Home Depot and Walmart.

[Hibernia&Alba]

After the Big Orange Baby was booed at the baseball last week, he thought he'd try again at a UFC event


https://youtu.be/FLyJYCs1xVk

:doh:

I would have expected the macho world of cage fighting to be pro-Trump, along with fans of things like monster trucks and deer hunting in Arkansas.

[Hibrandenburg]

I would have expected the macho world of cage fighting to be pro-Trump, along with fans of things like monster trucks and deer hunting in Arkansas.

Trump obviously thought so too.

[Colr]

Trump has announced that he is well on with building his brilliant wall in the state of Colorado.

........which doesn’t share a border with Mexico!!

[Jack Hackett]

Trump has announced that he is well on with building his brilliant wall in the state of Colorado.

........which doesn’t share a border with Mexico!!

Would that be the impenetrable wall you can cut through with a $99 power saw?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Poundland selling some early xmas novelty gifts

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75302676_10214456186711020_8488626118897696768_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFrvgFVR3X6QQULUJZEq7usyO5s-_JDdNj6xOTaqkI4hqc3Jitf48qtYwidGtmWIuA80mFG2FrOpmq tJsET76n1eI-aT3JXwaYFqbuQTsghXA&_nc_oc=AQnRU0t8wybxLew5E_v3NS5sygFdLju3rm8bAITqjTY PwuCZKjc2whFIA5aoVywUlvc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=bb642abf67927914ceaf2297b4a1af2e&oe=5E586715

[wpj]

Poundland selling some early xmas novelty gifts

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75302676_10214456186711020_8488626118897696768_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFrvgFVR3X6QQULUJZEq7usyO5s-_JDdNj6xOTaqkI4hqc3Jitf48qtYwidGtmWIuA80mFG2FrOpmq tJsET76n1eI-aT3JXwaYFqbuQTsghXA&_nc_oc=AQnRU0t8wybxLew5E_v3NS5sygFdLju3rm8bAITqjTY PwuCZKjc2whFIA5aoVywUlvc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=bb642abf67927914ceaf2297b4a1af2e&oe=5E586715

Does it clean the Tom Kite or just cover it up and deny it was there in the first place?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Does it clean the Tom Kite or just cover it up and deny it was there in the first place?



nancy pelosi kens :)

[Jack Hackett]

Poundland selling some early xmas novelty gifts

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75302676_10214456186711020_8488626118897696768_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFrvgFVR3X6QQULUJZEq7usyO5s-_JDdNj6xOTaqkI4hqc3Jitf48qtYwidGtmWIuA80mFG2FrOpmq tJsET76n1eI-aT3JXwaYFqbuQTsghXA&_nc_oc=AQnRU0t8wybxLew5E_v3NS5sygFdLju3rm8bAITqjTY PwuCZKjc2whFIA5aoVywUlvc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=bb642abf67927914ceaf2297b4a1af2e&oe=5E586715

Want one :greengrin

Thanks for the heads down

[Moulin Yarns]

Fergus Ewing on twitter

My decision as the previous Scottish Government Energy Minister to consent the Aberdeen Offshore wind farm was challenged in courts by Donald Trump.

He lost.

I am delighted to see his organisation must now pay our legal costs of £225,000.

[Bostonhibby]

Fergus Ewing on twitter

My decision as the previous Scottish Government Energy Minister to consent the Aberdeen Offshore wind farm was challenged in courts by Donald Trump.

He lost.

I am delighted to see his organisation must now pay our legal costs of £225,000.Jeez that's a lot of money just to stop the wind from making a mess of a bad comb over.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Poundland selling some early xmas novelty gifts

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75302676_10214456186711020_8488626118897696768_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFrvgFVR3X6QQULUJZEq7usyO5s-_JDdNj6xOTaqkI4hqc3Jitf48qtYwidGtmWIuA80mFG2FrOpmq tJsET76n1eI-aT3JXwaYFqbuQTsghXA&_nc_oc=AQnRU0t8wybxLew5E_v3NS5sygFdLju3rm8bAITqjTY PwuCZKjc2whFIA5aoVywUlvc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=bb642abf67927914ceaf2297b4a1af2e&oe=5E586715
Have they got Boris Johnson yins?

[Hibrandenburg]

Have they got Boris Johnson yins?

No, because unlike Trump **** sticks on Johnson.

[wpj]

No, because unlike Trump **** sticks on Johnson.

😂

[Slavers]

Want one :greengrin

Thanks for the heads down

I suppose that's one way to clean out the swamp!

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191115/788609b8c1f0ee0b3f40fa566313f31b.jpgTrump well on the way to catching Nixon.


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[DaveF]

Bush and Reagan with 17 prison sentences?

[Ozyhibby]

Bush and Reagan with 17 prison sentences?

Scooter Libby is the only one I can remember.


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[Fife-Hibee]

Poundland selling some early xmas novelty gifts

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75302676_10214456186711020_8488626118897696768_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeFrvgFVR3X6QQULUJZEq7usyO5s-_JDdNj6xOTaqkI4hqc3Jitf48qtYwidGtmWIuA80mFG2FrOpmq tJsET76n1eI-aT3JXwaYFqbuQTsghXA&_nc_oc=AQnRU0t8wybxLew5E_v3NS5sygFdLju3rm8bAITqjTY PwuCZKjc2whFIA5aoVywUlvc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=bb642abf67927914ceaf2297b4a1af2e&oe=5E586715

Kim Jong-Trump?

[NAE NOOKIE]

I watched the former US ambassador to the Ukraine giving evidence to the impeachment inquiry on the BBC parliament channel today. What she had to say was utterly damning, given even more force by Trump's childish tweets about her WHILE she was giving evidence.

Its hard to understand how any American with even the most basic grasp of morality can still support this excuse for a human being :bitchy:

[Jack Hackett]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191115/788609b8c1f0ee0b3f40fa566313f31b.jpgTrump well on the way to catching Nixon.


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Do you have a source for that graphic Ozy?

Scratch that... Found it

[Bristolhibby]

Strange unplanned visit to the hospital today for Trump. His team say everything is fine.

J

[lapsedhibee]

Strange unplanned visit to the hospital today for Trump. His team say everything is fine.

Hope it's not his bone spurs playing up again, as that'll probably excuse him from impeachment.

[Ozyhibby]

Really want him to survive to see the inside of jail.


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[Bostonhibby]

He's infinitely worse than Richard Nixon in many ways but he's maybe hoping to surpass Tricky Dickie and achieve what even he couldn't - to quote Monty Python:-

John Cleese : So see what's in page eight. Nixon's had an ersehole transplant.
Michael Palin : Well, have you've...eh...you've seen the stop Press though? The ersehole's rejected him.

He's hoping to outdo Richard Nixon but my money's on the ersehole.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

he never did apologise for this....******* abomination of a man

https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75252881_2851964331483073_6523583121034575872_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQkyGSVD9jEE912un79KyoLjzUPpYFrdMqt36fD7bhP tSK6C5FDh3E11-ii4KaYmOq8&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=ffbde17a2b1f86c6bd8d09199aa20f4d&oe=5E400B67

[matty_f]

he never did apologise for this....******* abomination of a man

https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75252881_2851964331483073_6523583121034575872_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQkyGSVD9jEE912un79KyoLjzUPpYFrdMqt36fD7bhP tSK6C5FDh3E11-ii4KaYmOq8&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=ffbde17a2b1f86c6bd8d09199aa20f4d&oe=5E400B67

Like we're seeing with the Tories now, these ******* are pretty much making a sport to see how far they can go while still getting away with it.

We're seeing openly criminal, openly offensive behviour going completely unchecked.

It's a completely bonkers situation.

[Ozyhibby]

Just watching Gordon Sondland dump Trump right in it on CNN just now. Would be amazing if republicans can stick with him after this.


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[JimBHibees]

he never did apologise for this....******* abomination of a man

https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75252881_2851964331483073_6523583121034575872_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQkyGSVD9jEE912un79KyoLjzUPpYFrdMqt36fD7bhP tSK6C5FDh3E11-ii4KaYmOq8&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=ffbde17a2b1f86c6bd8d09199aa20f4d&oe=5E400B67

What was that about?

[Cataplana]

What was that about?

Trump openly mocked the man's disability in front of a crowded campaign rally. Made jerking body movements and talked like he had a problem with his speech.

[Moulin Yarns]

Trump openly mocked the man's disability in front of a crowded campaign rally. Made jerking body movements and talked like he had a problem with his speech.

But the Donald does have a problem with his speech, it usually comes out his erse

[Cataplana]

But the Donald does have a problem with his speech, it usually comes out his erse

I'm sure the guy with disabilities will feel better for that.

[Callum_62]

Stable genius. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191120/f30a9b05e7a776cd33e2388ef7d63b41.jpg

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[JimBHibees]

Trump openly mocked the man's disability in front of a crowded campaign rally. Made jerking body movements and talked like he had a problem with his speech.

Wow the world has genuinely gone mad. Was the guy at the rally or was he mocking him when not there?

[Cataplana]

Wow the world has genuinely gone mad. Was the guy at the rally or was he mocking him when not there?

He was a reporter. You really have to see the footage to get a a grasp of how bad it was.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Wow the world has genuinely gone mad. Was the guy at the rally or was he mocking him when not there?

The poor guy is a journalist with a serious disability; and yes, it really did happen. We shouldn't be surprised, given Trump's character and history.

[sleeping giant]

Wow the world has genuinely gone mad. Was the guy at the rally or was he mocking him when not there?

Its on the youtube link above .

Cannot believe what I have seen. How on earth is he still in the position he is?

[Smartie]

Its on the youtube link above .

Cannot believe what I have seen. How on earth is he still in the position he is?

Democracy.

In spite of the horrific behaviour in that clip, tens of millions of Americans went to the polling booth to vote for him as the most suitable person to lead their nation.

That’s the most depressing fact.

[Cataplana]

Its on the youtube link above .

Cannot believe what I have seen. How on earth is he still in the position he is?

Because that happened before he was in that position. Doesn't give you much faith in your fellow man, when they elect a guy who could do that.

[CloudSquall]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1199718185865535490

:greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-50596011/hong-kong-protesters-celebrate-thanksgiving


Hong Kong protesters celebrate Thanksgiving


they obviously don't realise he will drop supporting them the minute china offers donald a few extra greenbacks

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-vote-live-stream-today-house-of-representatives-articles-of-impeachment-2019-12-18/


CBS live proceedings debate online

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Currently asking Americans to 'pray for me'

Guys a c0ck

[Callum_62]

President Donald Trump is impeached
The Speaker of the House of Representatives bangs her gavel, confirming that Donald Trump is now the third US president in history to be impeached.

The vote on the first of two articles - abuse of power - went 230 in favour, 197 against.

Mr Trump now faces trial in the Senate.

[CraigyHibee07]

President Donald Trump is impeached
The Speaker of the House of Representatives bangs her gavel, confirming that Donald Trump is now the third US president in history to be impeached.

The vote on the first of two articles - abuse of power - went 230 in favour, 197 against.

Mr Trump now faces trial in the Senate.

The whole thing is farcical. Divided between party lines. The head of the Senate (a Republican) has already declared that he'll be conferring with Trumps legal aid.

Yes, he's been impeached by a majority democrat House of Representatives. But any trial by the Senate will be greatly fixed in his favour from the very start.

There is no democratic accountability in America anymore.

[Sergio sledge]

The whole thing is farcical. Divided between party lines. The head of the Senate (a Republican) has already declared that he'll be conferring with Trumps legal aid.

Yes, he's been impeached by a majority democrat House of Representatives. But any trial by the Senate will be greatly fixed in his favour from the very start.

There is no democratic accountability in America anymore.

Yup, there's no way the senate will find against him.

[Future17]

Trump "jokes" that deceased Democratic Representative may be in hell:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/trump-implies-at-rally-that-the-late-democratic-rep-john-dingell-is-in-hell/ar-BBY8Zoi?ocid=spartandhp

[theonlywayisup]

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-impeachment-through-to-senate-trial-after-house-vote-11909292

Donald Trump faces a trial in the Senate after the House of Representatives voted in favour of triggering the next stage of impeachment.

The House voted largely on party lines, with 228 Democrats voting in favour, and one Democrat joining 192 Republicans to vote against sending the charges on.

[lapsedhibee]

Energy saving light bulbs are to blame for the way that Trump looks.

In December, the Trump administration gutted Obama-era standards on energy-saving lightbulbs. The measures mandate a gradual phasing out of incandescent bulbs, which Trump blames for his often carrot-like hue. “I always look orange. And so do you! The light is the worst.”

It's hard to think of a more appropriate word for this sort of stuff than insane.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just watching the press conference on Trump's middle east peace initiative and am still waiting to hear what's in it for the Palestinians. The sceptic in me thinks it's a prelude to bulldozing what's left of Palestine off the face of the earth once the inevitable backlash comes from the Palestinians who will never accept the terms of peace plan drawn up without them.

[RyeSloan]

Just watching the press conference on Trump's middle east peace initiative and am still waiting to hear what's in it for the Palestinians. The sceptic in me thinks it's a prelude to bulldozing what's left of Palestine off the face of the earth once the inevitable backlash comes from the Palestinians who will never accept the terms of peace plan drawn up without them.

I’m sure when Israel call it the deal of the century that it’s not going to really meet much of what the Palestinians were wanting....

[Ozyhibby]

Looking like a big win for Pete Buttigieg in Iowa. A moderate like him would be a good option for the democrats.


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[Vault Boy]

Acquitted.

[Slavers]

Acquitted.

Was always going to happen the whole thing was a hoax like Russiagate.

You have to wonder if this whole show was a big pantomine to ensure that Trump got re-elected.

Trump's approval rating is now through the roof. What was Nancy and the rest thinking? How did they ever think they would successfully impeach a president on the third hand -he said - she said evidence that they presented?

Well it's all done now.

I feel sorry for the people who believe the Democrat news outlets, they get led down the garden path time and time again, whipping themselves up into a frenzy only for everything that they get told turns out to false.

Say what you want about Trump but he will milk this for all its worth and then some more. He will rub the Democrats nose in their own mess like a naughty puppy who has pee'd on the new carpet.

[Future17]

Acquitted.

One word. Total acquittal.

[Kato]

Was always going to happen the whole thing was a hoax like Russiagate.

You have to wonder if this whole show was a big pantomine to ensure that Trump got re-elected.

Trump's approval rating is now through the roof. What was Nancy and the rest thinking? How did they ever think they would successfully impeach a president on the third hand -he said - she said evidence that they presented?

Well it's all done now.

I feel sorry for the people who believe the Democrat news outlets, they get led down the garden path time and time again, whipping themselves up into a frenzy only for everything that they get told turns out to false.

Say what you want about Trump but he will milk this for all its worth and then some more. He will rub the Democrats nose in their own mess like a naughty puppy who has pee'd on the new carpet.Have the Tories released their investigation into election interference yet? They promised they would. Or is it all just blank sheets of paper since it's a hoax?

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[Slavers]

Have the Tories released their investigation into election interference yet? They promised they would. Or is it all just blank sheets of paper since it's a hoax?

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I'd expect if there was any wrong doing by the Russians we would have heard it all by now.

You do accept that Trumps Russiagate was a hoax? Or do you still believe all the lies?

[jonty]

Was always going to happen the whole thing was a hoax like Russiagate.

You have to wonder if this whole show was a big pantomine to ensure that Trump got re-elected.

Trump's approval rating is now through the roof. What was Nancy and the rest thinking? How did they ever think they would successfully impeach a president on the third hand -he said - she said evidence that they presented?

Well it's all done now.

I feel sorry for the people who believe the Democrat news outlets, they get led down the garden path time and time again, whipping themselves up into a frenzy only for everything that they get told turns out to false.

Say what you want about Trump but he will milk this for all its worth and then some more. He will rub the Democrats nose in their own mess like a naughty puppy who has pee'd on the new carpet.
Amongst who? his family? The replublican party?
Its possibly at the highest he's ever been, but its still below 50%.

Have you been watching fox news? all of the evidence is false?

Slavers, you are trump and i claim my brexit 50p

[lapsedhibee]

One word. Total acquittal.

Acquitted forever.

[Tobias Funke]

Not surprised that the forums resident nutjob would be all over this. Absolute ****ing space cadet.

[Slavers]

Not surprised that the forums resident nutjob would be all over this. Absolute ****ing space cadet.

You should be happy when the truth sets people free Higgo but you sound angry about it... strange.

[Pretty Boy]

The whole circus could hardly be described as a fair trial. Witnesses and evidence not heard and a partisan 'jury'.

The ruling should really satisfy nobody. For Trumps opponents he lives to fight another day, for his supporters there will always be that cloud hanging over him.

[Callum_62]

Didn't really follow it but in what planet or democracy is stopping witnesses appearing fair?

Seems mental to me

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[Smartie]

It all looked like a pretty pitiful charade from start to finish.

For a country who likes to lecture the world about democracy and freedom, it is interesting to see a system in action that is utterly impotent regarding holding people who commit the most serious crimes in public office to justice.

[RyeSloan]

Rather odd tactics by the Democrats.

They must have known the outcome before they started.

Now they have handed Trump a ‘victory’.

Seems to me that Pelosi and her crew are almost as bonkers as Trump.

[Kato]

I'd expect if there was any wrong doing by the Russians we would have heard it all by now.

You do accept that Trumps Russiagate was a hoax? Or do you still believe all the lies?I dont particularly trust your expectations so I find it difficult to agree with you.

How would anyone know about Trumps actions given no witnesses or evidence was allowed? Does that seem like a "hoax" to you (dont answer, I sort of know the kind of disingenuous you adopt.)

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[Tyler Durden]

Rather odd tactics by the Democrats.

They must have known the outcome before they started.

Now they have handed Trump a ‘victory’.

Seems to me that Pelosi and her crew are almost as bonkers as Trump.

Not at all. It was necessary to make all these corrupt Republicans put their names to the crime.

There is a need to “do the right thing” sometimes even if the political outcome isn’t in your favour. Now all these Republicans for ever have it on their record that they acquitted Trump in a sham hearing. With the exception of Romney of course.

And there will be some voters who watched the testimonies and finally saw Trump’s corruption.

[heretoday]

Not at all. It was necessary to make all these corrupt Republicans put their names to the crime.

There is a need to “do the right thing” sometimes even if the political outcome isn’t in your favour. Now all these Republicans for ever have it on their record that they acquitted Trump in a sham hearing. With the exception of Romney of course.

And there will be some voters who watched the testimonies and finally saw Trump’s corruption.

Well said. The Founding Fathers must be turning in their graves.

[Hibrandenburg]

Not at all. It was necessary to make all these corrupt Republicans put their names to the crime.

There is a need to “do the right thing” sometimes even if the political outcome isn’t in your favour. Now all these Republicans for ever have it on their record that they acquitted Trump in a sham hearing. With the exception of Romney of course.

And there will be some voters who watched the testimonies and finally saw Trump’s corruption.

Eloquently put.

[lapsedhibee]

Vindman sacked for telling the truth.

[Jack Hackett]

You should be happy when the truth sets people free Higgo but you sound angry about it... strange.

I don't often call people out on .net, but I'll make an exception in your case.

Total ****wit!

[Jim44]

According to reports, the German extreme right wing racist murdererer held Trump in very high esteem.

[Hibrandenburg]

According to reports, the German extreme right wing racist murdererer held Trump in very high esteem.

If one positive can come from this madness, it's that the German government will soon start cracking extreme right wing heads. Things are about to get really uncomfortable for the AfD and their more extreme supporters.

[Tobias Funke]

I don't often call people out on .net, but I'll make an exception in your case.

Total ****wit!

I concur. A deeply flawed individual with some very worrisome opinions. The fact they hang around such sub forums on a football message board whilst contributing very little/nothing to the main football discussions is also strange behaviour.

A substandard troll in need of some form of help/counselling. I really hope they seek this out.

[Ozyhibby]

Bernie Sanders looking unstoppable for the democratic nomination.


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[JeMeSouviens]

Bernie Sanders looking unstoppable for the democratic nomination.


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Yes, Biden seems toast, none of the rest of the original field have got a lot of traction and Bloomberg seems to have bombed as soon as he had to actually engage outside of running ads. I read an article the other day that described Bloomberg as a man who "had brought a wallet to a knife fight". :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Yes, Biden seems toast, none of the rest of the original field have got a lot of traction and Bloomberg seems to have bombed as soon as he had to actually engage outside of running ads. I read an article the other day that described Bloomberg as a man who "had brought a wallet to a knife fight". :greengrin

Bloomberg going after Sanders this week very heavily in his ads. The centre of the party need to pick someone pretty quickly if they are to stand a chance. I think Bloomberg might be their best option just because he can self fund the whole campaign.


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[Ozyhibby]

Big win for Biden last night, might be a comeback.


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Big win for Biden last night, might be a comeback.


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Was always going to win big in the more diverse states.
Just shows how split the democratic vote is, blacks, Hispanics ect overwhelmingly for Biden and whites overwhelmingly for anyone but Biden.

Trump to romp it unfortunately.

[Ozyhibby]

Biden having a good start to Super Tuesday.


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[Hibrandenburg]

Biden having a good start to Super Tuesday.


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Looks like the Democratic Party are again closing ranks again to ensure Sanders doesn't get the gig.

[Ozyhibby]

Looks like the Democratic Party are again closing ranks again to ensure Sanders doesn't get the gig.

You mean less people are voting for him?


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[JeMeSouviens]

Looks like the Democratic Party are again closing ranks again to ensure Sanders doesn't get the gig.

Not really. They started with far too many candidates, it's inevitable that would get whittled down to 2 or 3 and most of the dropouts were much closer to Biden than Sanders politically. It's now a straight 2 horse race.

[Hibrandenburg]

You mean less people are voting for him?


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No, I mean that the Democrats establishment have got their knives out. The Democrats leadership are rounding on Sanders, they consider him too far left and would rather inflict damage on themselves than let him stand for president as a Democrat.

[Ozyhibby]

No, I mean that the Democrats establishment have got their knives out. The Democrats leadership are rounding on Sanders, they consider him too far left and would rather inflict damage on themselves than let him stand for president as a Democrat.

No, he simply lost voters. He is getting less votes than he got in 2016. His base of young voters are great at turning up for rally’s but when it come to showing up to vote, just like in this country, not so much. Sanders himself has been attacking the party he wants the nomination from, so you can see why the voters turned against him.
And it is with black voters he is weakest with and nobody ever called them the establishment.


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[Hibrandenburg]

No, he simply lost voters. He is getting less votes than he got in 2016. His base of young voters are great at turning up for rally’s but when it come to showing up to vote, just like in this country, not so much. Sanders himself has been attacking the party he wants the nomination from, so you can see why the voters turned against him.
And it is with black voters he is weakest with and nobody ever called them the establishment.


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CNN reckons otherwise.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/03/politics/biden-vs-sanders-super-tuesday/index.html

[Ozyhibby]

CNN reckons otherwise.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/03/politics/biden-vs-sanders-super-tuesday/index.html

That article just says that people who oppose him are standing against him. That’s politics. You’re claiming they would rather lose to trump than have Sanders as the nominee. That’s not true.
Sanders is losing and that’s down to him given the advantages he has enjoyed as front runner, having more money and a bigger ground operation. Fact is, socialism is just not that popular and if you can’t sell it to democrat voters then he has no chance of selling it in a general election.


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[RyeSloan]

No, I mean that the Democrats establishment have got their knives out. The Democrats leadership are rounding on Sanders, they consider him too far left and would rather inflict damage on themselves than let him stand for president as a Democrat.

Strange view re inflicting damage on themselves.

I see it as they are looking to avoid inflicting that damage by not wanting him as their candidate as they know he wouldn’t beat Trump.

To me there is parallels to Labour and Corbyn but Labour was too damn stubborn to listen.

[JeMeSouviens]

Strange view re inflicting damage on themselves.

I see it as they are looking to avoid inflicting that damage by not wanting him as their candidate as they know he wouldn’t beat Trump.

To me there is parallels to Labour and Corbyn but Labour was too damn stubborn to listen.

I'm not altogether sure that's true. The RCP averages for Biden v Trump and Sanders v Trump are currently Biden+5.4 and Sanders+4.9. Not that different. I'm not sure how it plays out in the swing states this time but last time Sanders looked a much better bet in the rust belt states like Ohio and Wisconsin that Clinton managed to lose.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not altogether sure that's true. The RCP averages for Biden v Trump and Sanders v Trump are currently Biden+5.4 and Sanders+4.9. Not that different. I'm not sure how it plays out in the swing states this time but last time Sanders looked a much better bet in the rust belt states like Ohio and Wisconsin that Clinton managed to lose.

After a few months of Trump portraying him as a commie then the choice will seem like a choice between two extremes and people may decide to stick with the devil they know.
Biden represents a boring return to pre Trump days. A centrist candidate is the best bet in my opinion.
I think Biden will be a useless candidate but I think they will keep away from big stump speeches and do lots more interviews etc which suit him better. He’s a known quantity and people seem to like him even if they think he’s useless or don’t agree with his policies.



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[JeMeSouviens]

After a few months of Trump portraying him as a commie then the choice will seem like a choice between two extremes and people may decide to stick with the devil they know.
Biden represents a boring return to pre Trump days. A centrist candidate is the best bet in my opinion.
I think Biden will be a useless candidate but I think they will keep away from big stump speeches and do lots more interviews etc which suit him better. He’s a known quantity and people seem to like him even if they think he’s useless or don’t agree with his policies.



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He will be useless but it's hard to imagine him being *more* useless than Trump.

Wishy washy and a bit vacant vs pathologically deranged.

[Ozyhibby]

He will be useless but it's hard to imagine him being *more* useless than Trump.

Wishy washy and a bit vacant vs pathologically deranged.

Perfect description.[emoji23]


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[BroxburnHibee]

Biden should offer VP to Obama.

Would skoosh it :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Biden should offer VP to Obama.

Would skoosh it :greengrin

Wonder if that is allowed? He could offer it to Michelle Obama though. That would do the trick.
His VP is going to be pretty important. Has to be someone people can see as President given that Biden is 77 years old.


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[Ozyhibby]

Bloomberg now out the race and if he’s as good as his word will be making £1.5bn available to Bidens campaign. He’s endorsed him now.


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[Haymaker]

Wonder if that is allowed? He could offer it to Michelle Obama though. That would do the trick.
His VP is going to be pretty important. Has to be someone people can see as President given that Biden is 77 years old.


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That's what might supper that plan. Having served a 2 term presidency, not sure he could step in if the President resigned or died in office.

Michelle Obama on the other hand...

EDIT: Apparently he can but there would be a limit on how long he could return as President. They'd have to call an election.

[BroxburnHibee]

He can be VP and can serve as president if required.

22nd amendment only states he cant be 'elected' as president again 😁

Might tip Trump over the edge mind since his whole presidency seems to have been based on overturning everything Obama did.

[Haymaker]

22nd amendment only states he cant be 'elected' as president again 😁



Elected for 8 but can serve up to 10. :agree:

[Hibrandenburg]

You’re claiming they would rather lose to trump than have Sanders as the nominee. That’s not true.

That's not what I'm claiming. If Sanders wins the nomination for the Democrats ticket, then he will bring many progressives with him making the current establishment a junior partner within the party. I'm reading that the powerful within the Democratic Party are considering imposing a candidate, maybe even one that hasn't even put themselves forward for the presidency yet. That could have long lasting negative effects on the party.

[Hibrandenburg]

To me there is parallels to Labour and Corbyn but Labour was too damn stubborn to listen.

It could definitely be seen that way.

[Ozyhibby]

That's not what I'm claiming. If Sanders wins the nomination for the Democrats ticket, then he will bring many progressives with him making the current establishment a junior partner within the party. I'm reading that the powerful within the Democratic Party are considering imposing a candidate, maybe even one that hasn't even put themselves forward for the presidency yet. That could have long lasting negative effects on the party.

They won’t need to. I can’t see Biden losing from here. Needs to keep his head down and avoid gaffs and it will be his.


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[CloudSquall]

Looking at the sums spent by people who have dropped out it's absolutely mental the money spent by people who, if they were being honest with themselves, had absolutely no chance of winning.

I understand you have to be in it to win it, it's good to have a wide selection of candidates with different ideas etc, but F me, I can't help but think the hundreds of millions of dollars pissed up against the wall for campaigns that are over before they started could've made some real differences in inner city projects across the US.

[SHODAN]

What I don't understand is why these ****ing primaries have to go on for ever and ever. Why can't it just be a one-off vote from party members?

I suspect money probably has something to do with it. :rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

What I don't understand is why these ****ing primaries have to go on for ever and ever. Why can't it just be a one-off vote from party members?

I suspect money probably has something to do with it. :rolleyes:

Not sure why but what the timetable does give is plenty chance to really test a candidate under pressure. Allows them to narrow the field gradually so that your are left with the most popular candidate. Had it all been on one day then sanders would have won as the only far left candidate. The slower timetable has allowed the moderate branch of the party to pick their candidate.


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[jonty]

That's what might supper that plan. Having served a 2 term presidency, not sure he could step in if the President resigned or died in office.

Michelle Obama on the other hand...

EDIT: Apparently he can but there would be a limit on how long he could return as President. They'd have to call an election.

The downside would be that he would be accused of pulling the strings - the president (or VP if Michelle) would be seen as a puppet.

To the trumpettes anyway.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

What I don't understand is why these ****ing primaries have to go on for ever and ever. Why can't it just be a one-off vote from party members?

I suspect money probably has something to do with it. :rolleyes:


Because there isn't a US wide democratic party believe it or not.
Its a collection of 50 independent state wide parties who will endorse a candidate(s), using there own differing rules and regulations and then nominate delegates to represent their state nominations at the national convention of the Democratic parties where the real vote then takes place.

[Hibrandenburg]

Not sure why but what the timetable does give is plenty chance to really test a candidate under pressure. Allows them to narrow the field gradually so that your are left with the most popular candidate. Had it all been on one day then sanders would have won as the only far left candidate. The slower timetable has allowed the moderate branch of the party to pick their candidate.


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The popular candidate amongst the electorate would appear to be Sanders but the Democrat party boffins seem to know better. Recent political events show that the electorate don't take kindly to being ignored, the Democratic Party establishment are playing with fire.

[Ozyhibby]

The popular candidate amongst the electorate would appear to be Sanders but the Democrat party boffins seem to know better. Recent political events show that the electorate don't take kindly to being ignored, the Democratic Party establishment are playing with fire.

Biden has nearly a million more votes than Sanders? Surely that makes Biden the popular candidate among the electorate?


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[BroxburnHibee]

Wonder if Bloombergs support had a price tag.

[weecounty hibby]

Wonder if Bloombergs support had a price tag.
Of course it did, this is American politics we are talking about.

[Hibbyradge]

Of course it did, this is American politics we are talking about.

The same happens here.

Farage didn't stand his candidates down out of the goodness of his heart.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/03/sanders-said-it-takes-a-revolution-to-beat-trump-on-super-tuesday-most-democrats-disagreed/


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[sleeping giant]

He's now constantly using "The Chinese Virus" when talking about Coronavirus.
I still cant fathom how on earth he is in the position he is.

[Smartie]

He's now constantly using "The Chinese Virus" when talking about Coronavirus.
I still cant fathom how on earth he is in the position he is.

It's disgusting, an absolutely disgusting use of language at a difficult time.

There aren't words for the loathing I feel towards that man. He is the biggest problem facing mankind right now.

[Callum_62]

It's fine apparently because we refer to Chinese food, as its food that comes from China.

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[ddoc]

It's disgusting, an absolutely disgusting use of language at a difficult time.

There aren't words for the loathing I feel towards that man. He is the biggest problem facing mankind right now.

I totally agree re Trump, but he is just putting his slant on the precedence of how previous epidemics / pandemics were named i.e. Spanish Flu, Honk Kong Flu, MERS etc. Though his use of it is more towards his domestic audience in an effort to deflect from his deplorable handling of this crisis.

[-Jonesy-]

I totally agree re Trump, but he is just putting his slant on the precedence of how previous epidemics / pandemics were named i.e. Spanish Flu, Honk Kong Flu, MERS etc. Though his use of it is more towards his domestic audience in an effort to deflect from his deplorable handling of this crisis.

So he isn’t just putting his slant on it he is trying to deflect blame from himself by stoking racial tensions

[ddoc]

So he isn’t just putting his slant on it he is trying to deflect blame from himself by stoking racial tensions

IMO yes. It is election year. Only time will tell, but the USA's response to this crisis will probably prove to be the most inept of any G20 country.
Pre COVID-19 I thought he was a shoo-in at the next election, now I think it will be a far closer result as his, almost criminal negligence, in dealing with this will make many US citizens have second thoughts about voting him in for a second term.
So he will be working overtime to deflect criticism of how this is being handled, and focusing blame on an another country is a handy tool which he will milk dry.

[Iain G]

IMO yes. It is election year. Only time will tell, but the USA's response to this crisis will probably prove to be the most inept of any G20 country.
Pre COVID-19 I thought he was a shoo-in at the next election, now I think it will be a far closer result as his, almost criminal negligence, in dealing with this will make many US citizens have second thoughts about voting him in for a second term.
So he will be working overtime to deflect criticism of how this is being handled, and focusing blame on an another country is a handy tool which he will milk dry.

He is going to be responsible for the deaths of many more Americans that there needs to be with his view on this, even today he is saying America will soon be open for business, referring everything back to the economy and blaming the media somehow for the spread of the virus?

The man is not a fit human being, has no regard for life or for the welfare of the country he is supposed to be leading and this will end in disaster for America. Thankfully the state governors are generally more in tune with whats going on and putting the states on lockdown.

I know the UK response has been muddled at times but am very glad I am here and not in the USA.

[Ozyhibby]

He is going to be responsible for the deaths of many more Americans that there needs to be with his view on this, even today he is saying America will soon be open for business, referring everything back to the economy and blaming the media somehow for the spread of the virus?

The man is not a fit human being, has no regard for life or for the welfare of the country he is supposed to be leading and this will end in disaster for America. Thankfully the state governors are generally more in tune with whats going on and putting the states on lockdown.

I know the UK response has been muddled at times but am very glad I am here and not in the USA.

He is desperate for the economy to rebound for his re-election. There is nothing he would not do to get re-elected because there is every chance his whole empire would collapse if he does not have the protection of the presidency and he goes to jail.


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[Smartie]

He is going to be responsible for the deaths of many more Americans that there needs to be with his view on this, even today he is saying America will soon be open for business, referring everything back to the economy and blaming the media somehow for the spread of the virus?

The man is not a fit human being, has no regard for life or for the welfare of the country he is supposed to be leading and this will end in disaster for America. Thankfully the state governors are generally more in tune with whats going on and putting the states on lockdown.

I know the UK response has been muddled at times but am very glad I am here and not in the USA.

He is getting found out and there is no escape.

Even Boris (of whom I am not a fan) has managed to get his s**t together to an extent, and it will be interesting how much attention he pays to Cummings in future - had Boris continued down the Cummings route then the country would be f****d and along with it Boris' political career and legacy. Boris has the potential to emerge almost Churchillian from this is he can keep the damage caused by this virus to a minimum and at a lower rate than in other countries.

When this is all over, the likes of Boris would do well to remember who they listened to, who said what and what were the potential consequences - with hindsight - of those suggestions.

It is a tragedy of immense proportions that they have Trump in charge at this time and it could cost thousands of lives.

[Iain G]

He is getting found out and there is no escape.

Even Boris (of whom I am not a fan) has managed to get his s**t together to an extent, and it will be interesting how much attention he pays to Cummings in future - had Boris continued down the Cummings route then the country would be f****d and along with it Boris' political career and legacy. Boris has the potential to emerge almost Churchillian from this is he can keep the damage caused by this virus to a minimum and at a lower rate than in other countries.

When this is all over, the likes of Boris would do well to remember who they listened to, who said what and what were the potential consequences - with hindsight - of those suggestions.

It is a tragedy of immense proportions that they have Trump in charge at this time and it could cost thousands of lives.

Unfortunately thousands of lives could easily turn into tens or hundreds of thousands or worse. And he attacks the media when they ask simple straightforward questions and blames it all on fake news. It is terrifying that this complete self centred idiot can even get to this level of power. He is a shyster of a snake oil salesman and I hope his business world collapses around him.

Am not a big Boris fan but was quite impressed with his address yesterday, first time for me he has shown what I expect from a PM in troubled times.

[Ozyhibby]

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[Mibbes Aye]

He is getting found out and there is no escape.

Even Boris (of whom I am not a fan) has managed to get his s**t together to an extent, and it will be interesting how much attention he pays to Cummings in future - had Boris continued down the Cummings route then the country would be f****d and along with it Boris' political career and legacy. Boris has the potential to emerge almost Churchillian from this is he can keep the damage caused by this virus to a minimum and at a lower rate than in other countries.

When this is all over, the likes of Boris would do well to remember who they listened to, who said what and what were the potential consequences - with hindsight - of those suggestions.

It is a tragedy of immense proportions that they have Trump in charge at this time and it could cost thousands of lives.

Maybe not the right thread but the sense I am getting is that Cummings was very much ‘let it go’ then did a u-turn and started advising lockdown etc.

I am no fan of Boris, no fan of the Tories, I am a Labour Party member, albeit a reluctant one under Corbyn. But the Tories won a decent majority at the last election and Boris is coming across so far, as amazing as it might seem as serious and competent. I am not convinced he is serious and competent but I think as it stands, he is doing more than enough to convince marginal voters in England that he is up for the job.

Assuming Keir Starmer gets the Labour gig, and unless Johnson is shown to have culpably done wrong, then Labour have a mountain to climb. Johnson just needs to keep repeating the stoic, resolute lines and the marginal constituencies will vote for him in droves.

My bigger worry is the U.K. government commitment to ploughing billions, if not more, into the economy. It is not that I disagree, I’m probably a Keynesian at heart, but I am suspicious.

My suspicion is that government will obviously ramp up the credit card, or use QE. And when this is over, the deficit will be used as an excuse to slash funding in the public sector and reduce the role of the state, as a remedy.

I am on a different end of the spectrum from neo-liberals and libertarians, but if I was in their shoes I would be rubbing my hands in glee. They will have the opportunity to re-write the narrative. They take the credit for saving the economy, as they are in power, and then have credibility for making things right and off-setting the massive, additional spend - which means an ideological axe to the public sector.

I loved the genre of films in the 70s that were very dystopian. I fear that we might be at risk of realising it. I suspect that common sense and pragmatism will prevail. And if they don’t then we are truly ****ed :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

He is getting found out and there is no escape.

Even Boris (of whom I am not a fan) has managed to get his s**t together to an extent, and it will be interesting how much attention he pays to Cummings in future - had Boris continued down the Cummings route then the country would be f****d and along with it Boris' political career and legacy. Boris has the potential to emerge almost Churchillian from this is he can keep the damage caused by this virus to a minimum and at a lower rate than in other countries.

When this is all over, the likes of Boris would do well to remember who they listened to, who said what and what were the potential consequences - with hindsight - of those suggestions.

It is a tragedy of immense proportions that they have Trump in charge at this time and it could cost thousands of lives.

Is it a possibility that come election time and because of the continued or renewed Corona crisis that elections could be postponed?

[Tobias Funke]

Trump has started using the “the cure cannot be worse than the problem” line that’s come from the US right wing. Basically meaning it would be worth an unimaginable death toll if the economy was okay. He does not want a total lockdown. He’s off his f’ng head.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Trump is now looking at his strategy to win another term and the hand that he wants to play is a bouyant economy and stock market and close to full employment. That is what is driving his decisions and not the health of the US citizens.

[Colr]

Trump is now looking at his strategy to win another term and the hand that he wants to play is a bouyant economy and stock market and close to full employment. That is what is driving his decisions and not the health of the US citizens.

Largest rise in cases today was in the US.

[RyeSloan]

Largest rise in cases today was in the US.

And Trump having public spats with the NY Governor....embarrassing response from the US and Trump, one that is surely already costing lives.

NY sounds like it’s in serious trouble, Cuomo comes across as absolutely panicking.

[Tobias Funke]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52012049

A good summary of how much of a f-wit the man is. No doubt this will be dismissed as FAKE NEWS by certain imbeciles who think Trump can do no wrong.

[Ozyhibby]

And Trump having public spats with the NY Governor....embarrassing response from the US and Trump, one that is surely already costing lives.

NY sounds like it’s in serious trouble, Cuomo comes across as absolutely panicking.

I’m sure if Cuomo could share some dirt on Joe Biden he would get all the ventilators he needs.


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[Tobias Funke]

I’m sure if Cuomo could share some dirt on Joe Biden he would get all the ventilators he needs.


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I see he was talking about experimenting with two patients per ventilator. That’s how utterly rooked NYC is just now in this crisis. It’s horrendous.

[Tobias Funke]

Sadly Cuomo won’t get many favours from Trump as his brother is one of the main faces of “FAKE NEWS” CNN. I have absolutely no doubt he would be that petty, even in this crisis.

[CloudSquall]

Trump now saying the US will be back up and running by Easter Sunday to ensure the churches can be full at that special time.


At this rate Mexico might be the one building the wall to deal with immigration..

[Haymaker]

Trump now saying the US will be back up and running by Easter Sunday to ensure the churches can be full at that special time.


At this rate Mexico might be the one building the wall to deal with immigration..

Well they closed the border first so...

[Iain G]

Trump now saying the US will be back up and running by Easter Sunday to ensure the churches can be full at that special time.


At this rate Mexico might be the one building the wall to deal with immigration..

Its madness, he has put his fingers in his ears and shut his eyes and is shouting "la la la I can't hear you, all is well, fake news" loudly to block it out, or this proves just how much of a total and utter idiot this man is if he doesn't get it. He is looking for a second term and to protect his failing businesses.

He will kill many Americans by his choice of narrative and his actions.

[wpj]

Scroll down to the first video, a collection of press conferences from Trump since the outbreak. It is truly scary.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-today-coronavirus-update-white-house-live-press-conference-today-map-letter-states-cases-a9429031.html

[Hibrandenburg]

Just watching his latest press conference. He's a complete hoof****ing bungle****.

[DaveF]

Scroll down to the first video, a collection of press conferences from Trump since the outbreak. It is truly scary.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-today-coronavirus-update-white-house-live-press-conference-today-map-letter-states-cases-a9429031.html

Riveting viewing if only to be continually amazed at his stupidity. I wonder if he'll now call it the American Virus.

[Iain G]

Riveting viewing if only to be continually amazed at his stupidity. I wonder if he'll now call it the American Virus.

FAKE NEWS, nothing to see, all is good, we are the goodest country in the world, its CNN, FAKE NEWS, watch Fox, Fox is the best, Mexican Virus, we will build the wall good, it will keep the fake news virus out of the bestest economy ever and everyone is jealous of us, FAKE VIRUS, please visit my golf course...

or something similar...:greengrin

[Haymaker]

FAKE NEWS, nothing to see, all is good, we are the goodest country in the world, its CNN, FAKE NEWS, watch Fox, Fox is the best, Mexican Virus, we will build the wall good, it will keep the fake news virus out of the bestest economy ever and everyone is jealous of us, FAKE VIRUS, please visit my golf course...

or something similar...:greengrin

Not enough capitals

[Mr Grieves]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/trump-narcissism-american-blood-coronavirus?__twitter_impression=true

Scathing criticism of Trump's handling of this crisis

[wpj]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/trump-narcissism-american-blood-coronavirus?__twitter_impression=true

Scathing criticism of Trump's handling of this crisis

That is Trump's disgusting way of dealing with the pandemic. He is totally in denial and lashing out at anyone who challenges him.
USA will be devastated by CV led by an incompetent fool of a man.

[Pretty Boy]

What is wrong with this man?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/donald-trump-face-masks-coronavirus_uk_5e811c54c5b6614922699c85/

Can't he comprehend that just because he would sell his granny for a dollar doesn't mean everyone has the same lack of morality as him?

[Bostonhibby]

Strong contender for a new title.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/c9ab047dbc3ef7ff84b568a9b0c4a3a4.jpg

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[stokesmessiah]

What is wrong with this man?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/donald-trump-face-masks-coronavirus_uk_5e811c54c5b6614922699c85/

Can't he comprehend that just because he would sell his granny for a dollar doesn't mean everyone has the same lack of morality as him?

The truth is, that man is going to have an awful lot of blood on his hands. He has totally screwed this thing up and the deaths in America are going to be high. Will they remember when it gets to the polls? Probably not.

[RyeSloan]

What is wrong with this man?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/donald-trump-face-masks-coronavirus_uk_5e811c54c5b6614922699c85/

Can't he comprehend that just because he would sell his granny for a dollar doesn't mean everyone has the same lack of morality as him?

It’s typical Trump.

Thinks about something for a nano second, gets a gut feel based on not very much at all then spouts his ‘wisdom’ on a subject.

He does it all the time, even when he’s been shown evidence to the contrary or told explicitly the opposite....doesn’t matter to him as only his thoughts count.

[Mibbes Aye]

It’s typical Trump.

Thinks about something for a nano second, gets a gut feel based on not very much at all then spouts his ‘wisdom’ on a subject.

He does it all the time, even when he’s been shown evidence to the contrary or told explicitly the opposite....doesn’t matter to him as only his thoughts count.

They are good thoughts, really good thoughts, good, good thoughts. I can tell you they are beautiful thoughts. Sleepy Joe and Crooked Hillary, they are interesting, really weak. Weak.

We have big ideas about this. I mean big, big ideas. Beautiful ideas.

I have done deals. Amazing deals.

By the way, I have many friends. Believe me, I've been hearing amazing things, beautiful things. A lot of people tell me things.

I've seen this and I've sort of witnessed it - in fact, in two cases I have actually witnessed it.

That's just what I heard.

[RyeSloan]

They are good thoughts, really good thoughts, good, good thoughts. I can tell you they are beautiful thoughts. Sleepy Joe and Crooked Hillary, they are interesting, really weak. Weak.

We have big ideas about this. I mean big, big ideas. Beautiful ideas.

I have done deals. Amazing deals.

By the way, I have many friends. Believe me, I've been hearing amazing things, beautiful things. A lot of people tell me things.

I've seen this and I've sort of witnessed it - in fact, in two cases I have actually witnessed it.

That's just what I heard.

Aha thats pretty damn accurate!! [emoji23]

I see he landed another whopper today...immediately after telling the reporter he knew South Korea better than anyone he suggests Seoul had a population of 38m...a mere 28m over statement!

[lapsedhibee]

Aha thats pretty damn accurate!! [emoji23]

I see he landed another whopper today...immediately after telling the reporter he knew South Korea better than anyone he suggests Seoul had a population of 38m...a mere 28m over statement!

So he overbiglied the number a bit. He's still great at math though - his uncle was a scientist.

[silverhibee]

Aha thats pretty damn accurate!! [emoji23]

I see he landed another whopper today...immediately after telling the reporter he knew South Korea better than anyone he suggests Seoul had a population of 38m...a mere 28m over statement!

Think he got mixed up with elevation and population, he will deny saying it at next press briefing.

[Ozyhibby]

Aha thats pretty damn accurate!! [emoji23]

I see he landed another whopper today...immediately after telling the reporter he knew South Korea better than anyone he suggests Seoul had a population of 38m...a mere 28m over statement!

Wonder where the idiot got the 38m figure from?
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[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-hands-coronavirus-briefing-to-company-exec_uk_5e82e4c5c5b6d38d98a3e4bc?ncid=other_trendi ng_qeesnbnu0l8&utm_campaign=trending

Words fail me.....

[Hibrandenburg]

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-hands-coronavirus-briefing-to-company-exec_uk_5e82e4c5c5b6d38d98a3e4bc?ncid=other_trendi ng_qeesnbnu0l8&utm_campaign=trending

Words fail me.....

330 million people locked down with only about 393 million guns between them, being brainwashed by religious zealots and hoof****ing bungle****s to blame China and their closest ally Satan for the deaths of what will probably be tens of thousands of god fearing Americans. What can possibly go wrong?

[Captain Trips]

In all honesty irrespective of who is in charge over there trying to tell lots of Americans what they can and cannot do even if it means people dying is like pissing in the wind i imagine to a certain extent.

[DaveF]

Trump is such a dick. American health officials saying everyone should wear face mask and he immediately stresses it's voluntary and he won't be joining in.

[Mibbes Aye]

I love politics. The machinations and the process to get elected. Then the dirt and grind to actually enact what you want to to do.

Mario Cuomo was a big hitter for the Democratic Party in the eighties and early nineties. In the book and film ‘Primary Colors’ he is barely disguised as a character and he is the one that the also barely-disguised Bill Clinton character fears running against in the primaries.

A strong NY Democrat brings the massive electoral college votes available in New York. A prudent choice of running mate and you have a strategy for winning the election

Andrew Cuomo, current governor of New York State, is getting a ton of good press for how he is dealing with corona virus in NYC, where it seems to be exacerbated in terms of numbers and deaths

There was always talk about a Cuomo run for the presidency, it used to be Mario, but Andrew is now being talked up. A lot will depend on how the virus plays out, but if it settles I wouldn’t rule out a vote from the floor at the party convention, drumming up support for Andrew. He wasn’t in at the start so he would have to be a floor vote.

Admittedly I am not up on rules for how the Democratic Party nominates candidates but from memory, there is the usual primary process, but still the opportunity to nominate and vote from the floor at the time of the Convention. I know a couple of folk who post on here have actually been involved in the work around campaigning during the Democratic primaries and then the actual election. Any insight would be welcome.

[lapsedhibee]

I love politics. The machinations and the process to get elected. Then the dirt and grind to actually enact what you want to to do.

Mario Cuomo was a big hitter for the Democratic Party in the eighties and early nineties. In the book and film ‘Primary Colors’ he is barely disguised as a character and he is the one that the also barely-disguised Bill Clinton character fears running against in the primaries.

A strong NY Democrat brings the massive electoral college votes available in New York. A prudent choice of running mate and you have a strategy for winning the election

Andrew Cuomo, current governor of New York State, is getting a ton of good press for how he is dealing with corona virus in NYC, where it seems to be exacerbated in terms of numbers and deaths

There was always talk about a Cuomo run for the presidency, it used to be Mario, but Andrew is now being talked up. A lot will depend on how the virus plays out, but if it settles I wouldn’t rule out a vote from the floor at the party convention, drumming up support for Andrew. He wasn’t in at the start so he would have to be a floor vote.

Admittedly I am not up on rules for how the Democratic Party nominates candidates but from memory, there is the usual primary process, but still the opportunity to nominate and vote from the floor at the time of the Convention. I know a couple of folk who post on here have actually been involved in the work around campaigning during the Democratic primaries and then the actual election. Any insight would be welcome.

No insight to offer but let's hope that even if Cuomo isn't rewarded for having 'had a good war', the current Prick-In-Chief is punished for having had a bad, very bad, one.

[Mibbes Aye]

No insight to offer but let's hope that even if Cuomo isn't rewarded for having 'had a good war', the current Prick-In-Chief is punished for having had a bad, very bad, one.

Cant argue with that :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

"An Open Letter to the president"
From the Drummer of Mötley Crüe, Tommy Lee

Dear ****ing Lunatic,
At your recent press conference - more a word salad that had a stroke and fell down stairs, you were CLEARLY so out of your depth you needed scuba gear. Within minutes of going off air your minions were backpedaling faster than Cirque De Soliel acrobats... In India a week ago, i couldn’t get past the bit about your being the most popular visitor in the history of ****ing india — a country of a BILLION human souls that’s only 3000 years old, give or take.!!! Trust me - Gandhi pulled CROWDS.. You pulled a cricket stadium and half WALKED out...
Do you know how ****ing insane you sound, you off-brand butt plug? That's like the geopolitical equivalent of “that stripper really likes me” — only 10,000 times crazier and less self aware.
You are ****ing exhausting. Every day is a natural experiment in determining how long 300 million people can resist coring out their own assholes with an ice auger. Every time I hear a snippet of your Queens-tinged banshee larynx farts, I want to scream!
We are ****ing tired. As bad as we all thought your presidency would be when Putin got you elected, it’s been inestimably worse.
You called a hostile, nuclear-armed head of state “short and fat.” How the **** does that help?
You accused a woman — a former friend, no less — of showing up at your resort bleeding from the face and begging to get in. You, you, YOU — the guy who looks like a Christmas haggis inexplicably brought to life by Frosty’s magic hat — yes, you of all people said that.
You attempted — with evident ****ing glee — to get 24 million people thrown off their health insurance.
You gave billions away to corporations and the already wealthy while simultaneously telling struggling poor people that you were doing exactly the opposite.
You endorsed a pedophile, praised brutal dictators, and defended LITERAL ****ING NAZIS!
Ninety-nine percent of everything you say is either false, crazy, incoherent, just plain cruel, or a rancid paella of all four.
Oh, by the way, Puerto Rico is still FUBAR. You got yourself and your family billions in tax breaks for Christmas. What do they get? More paper towels?
Enough, enough, enough, enough! For the love of God and all that is holy, good, and pure, would you please, finally and forever, shut your feculent KFC-hole until you have something valuable — or even marginally civil — to say?
You are a fried dick sandwich with a side of schlongs. If chlamydia and gonorrhea had a son, you’d appoint him HHS secretary. You are a disgraceful, pustulant hot stew full of casuistry, godawful ideas, unintelligible non sequiturs, and malignant rage.
You are the perfect circus orangutan diaper from Plato’s World of Forms.
So **** you Mr. President. And **** you forever.
Oh, and Pence, you oleaginous house ferret. **** you, too. You'll be as useful as a chocolate teapot against a medical crisis you Bible thumping cock socket."

[weecounty hibby]

I vote for Tommy Lee!! 🤘🤘🤘

[lapsedhibee]

You are the perfect circus orangutan diaper from Plato’s World of Forms.


Love a foul-mouthed, but well-read, rant!

[hibsbollah]

I vote for Tommy Lee!! 🤘🤘🤘

Me too. A 'christmas haggis brought to life by Frostys Magic Hat' was a new one to me.

[Smartie]

Me too. A 'christmas haggis brought to life by Frostys Magic Hat' was a new one to me.

The fried dick sandwich with a side of schlongs was my highlight.

Generally speaking I'm not a fan of open letters as about 99% of those I have ever read have been written by Shaun Lawson.

This one is a masterpiece and correct with every point.

[Sir David Gray]

Tommy Lee shared it, he didn't write it.

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/tommy-lee-donald-trump-letter-motley-crue-viral-a4407906.html

[hibsbollah]

Tommy Lee shared it, he didn't write it.

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/tommy-lee-donald-trump-letter-motley-crue-viral-a4407906.html

Well Aldous J Penny-farthing, I salute you.

[weecounty hibby]

Well Aldous J Penny-farthing, I salute you.
I have moved my vote from Tommy to Aldous. Tommy for VP though

[Bostonhibby]

"An Open Letter to the president"
From the Drummer of Mötley Crüe, Tommy Lee

Dear ****ing Lunatic,
At your recent press conference - more a word salad that had a stroke and fell down stairs, you were CLEARLY so out of your depth you needed scuba gear. Within minutes of going off air your minions were backpedaling faster than Cirque De Soliel acrobats... In India a week ago, i couldn’t get past the bit about your being the most popular visitor in the history of ****ing india — a country of a BILLION human souls that’s only 3000 years old, give or take.!!! Trust me - Gandhi pulled CROWDS.. You pulled a cricket stadium and half WALKED out...
Do you know how ****ing insane you sound, you off-brand butt plug? That's like the geopolitical equivalent of “that stripper really likes me” — only 10,000 times crazier and less self aware.
You are ****ing exhausting. Every day is a natural experiment in determining how long 300 million people can resist coring out their own assholes with an ice auger. Every time I hear a snippet of your Queens-tinged banshee larynx farts, I want to scream!
We are ****ing tired. As bad as we all thought your presidency would be when Putin got you elected, it’s been inestimably worse.
You called a hostile, nuclear-armed head of state “short and fat.” How the **** does that help?
You accused a woman — a former friend, no less — of showing up at your resort bleeding from the face and begging to get in. You, you, YOU — the guy who looks like a Christmas haggis inexplicably brought to life by Frosty’s magic hat — yes, you of all people said that.
You attempted — with evident ****ing glee — to get 24 million people thrown off their health insurance.
You gave billions away to corporations and the already wealthy while simultaneously telling struggling poor people that you were doing exactly the opposite.
You endorsed a pedophile, praised brutal dictators, and defended LITERAL ****ING NAZIS!
Ninety-nine percent of everything you say is either false, crazy, incoherent, just plain cruel, or a rancid paella of all four.
Oh, by the way, Puerto Rico is still FUBAR. You got yourself and your family billions in tax breaks for Christmas. What do they get? More paper towels?
Enough, enough, enough, enough! For the love of God and all that is holy, good, and pure, would you please, finally and forever, shut your feculent KFC-hole until you have something valuable — or even marginally civil — to say?
You are a fried dick sandwich with a side of schlongs. If chlamydia and gonorrhea had a son, you’d appoint him HHS secretary. You are a disgraceful, pustulant hot stew full of casuistry, godawful ideas, unintelligible non sequiturs, and malignant rage.
You are the perfect circus orangutan diaper from Plato’s World of Forms.
So **** you Mr. President. And **** you forever.
Oh, and Pence, you oleaginous house ferret. **** you, too. You'll be as useful as a chocolate teapot against a medical crisis you Bible thumping cock socket."[emoji23]

I think he's much worse than that though.

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[Sergio sledge]

In the least surprising news ever, it turns out one of the investment funds that Trump personally has a stake in invests heavily in one of the drug companies that produces Hydroxychloroquine the drug Trump is pushing as a treatment for Covid-19, against the advice of his medical advisors and based on nothing more than anecdotal evidence of some benefits.

[RyeSloan]

In the least surprising news ever, it turns out one of the investment funds that Trump personally has a stake in invests heavily in one of the drug companies that produces Hydroxychloroquine the drug Trump is pushing as a treatment for Covid-19, against the advice of his medical advisors and based on nothing more than anecdotal evidence of some benefits.

While I get the story and as you say hardly surprising I was left wondering just how much of Sanofi’s profits are driven by such a widely available drug.

In other words it won’t be doing them them any harm but I doubt it’s a huge driver of their bottom line.

[Beefster]

While I get the story and as you say hardly surprising I was left wondering just how much of Sanofi’s profits are driven by such a widely available drug.

In other words it won’t be doing them them any harm but I doubt it’s a huge driver of their bottom line.

I think it's available from generic manufacturers so it won't be a money-spinner for Sanofi. If Trump was really doing it for money, he'd have chosen a drug still under patent.

[RyeSloan]

I think it's available from generic manufacturers so it won't be a money-spinner for Sanofi. If Trump was really doing it for money, he'd have chosen a drug still under patent.

Exactly what I was trying to say but you’ve articulated it rather more succinctly [emoji736]

More of a case of him just being an idiot and spouting headline grabbing nonsense to try and pretend he had some sort of answer to the crisis rather than anything more cunning.

[WoreTheGreen]

The neighbours phoned the polis

[Bostonhibby]

The neighbours phoned the polis[emoji16]

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[WoreTheGreen]

Might have another go it is full moon tonight

[BroxburnHibee]

Guys, I've removed some posts (amusing as they were) as it doesn't fit to our family friendly policy.

Hope you understand.

[Mibbes Aye]

Guys, I've removed some posts (amusing as they were) as it doesn't fit to our family friendly policy.

Hope you understand.

One of them was mine, my second in a not very good impersonation of Trump. If you want to remove the first one as well then I understand.

I can imagine that some people find jocularity like this possibly offensive. I'm also fully behind the family friendly policy. I have teenage kids and while I would like them to enjoy .net I sometimes wonder what they would make of some of the posts. And then I remember that they are probably seeing, reading and viewing a million times worse. Such is life in this day and age.

Anyway, I believe you don't delete lightly, and you are ptobably busy enough as it is with your own lives, let alone running this place. Certainly no complaints from me.

[Bostonhibby]

Guys, I've removed some posts (amusing as they were) as it doesn't fit to our family friendly policy.

Hope you understand.[emoji106]

Fine by me.

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[Hibrandenburg]

He's now blaming the WHO for missing the call and threatening to cut off funding to them. He's an utterly contemptible human being.

[lapsedhibee]

He's now blaming the WHO for missing the call and threatening to cut off funding to them. He's an utterly contemptible human being.

Gove's wife has been at that game as well.

[Bostonhibby]

He's now blaming the WHO for missing the call and threatening to cut off funding to them. He's an utterly contemptible human being.He already wasn't paying in any event.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/dbe797c4b9747304aaab084a906d236f.jpg

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[lapsedhibee]

He already wasn't paying in any event.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/dbe797c4b9747304aaab084a906d236f.jpg


Be fair. We don't know yet whether there was a legitimate reason, like the WHO refusing to dig dirt on a Dem.

[Bostonhibby]

Be fair. We don't know yet whether there was a legitimate reason, like the WHO refusing to dig dirt on a Dem.That's the sort of thing that should see any president impeached, unless he has a gang of like minded people making sure he doesn't.

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[Pretty Boy]

Not really Trump related as such but Bernie Sanders is set to announce he is dropping out of the Democratic race. Looks like it's Biden v Trump.

[Mon Dieu4]

Not really Trump related as such but Bernie Sanders is set to announce he is dropping out of the Democratic race. Looks like it's Biden v Trump.

How the **** Biden has got to this stage is unreal, every time I've watched him he was like my grandparents who had dementia and a bit all over the place, they really should have went for someone younger as even if Biden somehow wins I can't see him lasting the 4 years

[Beefster]

How the **** Biden has got to this stage is unreal, every time I've watched him he was like my grandparents who had dementia and a bit all over the place, they really should have went for someone younger as even if Biden somehow wins I can't see him lasting the 4 years

I think he’s about as socialist as it’s possible to be in mainstream US politics and his policies appeal to a lot of folk.

[Mon Dieu4]

I think he’s about as socialist as it’s possible to be in mainstream US politics and his policies appeal to a lot of folk.

I agree with that and think he's probably a decent dude but health wise I don't think he's up to it anymore

[Iain G]

Well he has gone and outdone himself at the last news briefing, airing 7 minute propaganda video which basically says Trump Good, Media Bad....and then proclaiming a number of powers over state governors that he just does not have!

Is there any way we can ban this snake oil salesman from ever setting foot it Scotland again?

[Hibrandenburg]

Well he has gone and outdone himself at the last news briefing, airing 7 minute propaganda video which basically says Trump Good, Media Bad....and then proclaiming a number of powers over state governors that he just does not have!

Is there any way we can ban this snake oil salesman from ever setting foot it Scotland again?

He's also started to rewrite his Corona chronology.

[Bostonhibby]

Well he has gone and outdone himself at the last news briefing, airing 7 minute propaganda video which basically says Trump Good, Media Bad....and then proclaiming a number of powers over state governors that he just does not have!

Is there any way we can ban this snake oil salesman from ever setting foot it Scotland again?Just watched him, he's unhinged, somehow the States need to remove him for his and their own safety.

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[Jim44]

Just watched him, he's unhinged, somehow the States need to remove him for his and their own safety.

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I’m amazed he has gone so far without the unmentionable happening to him and it’s not only the USA’s safety that’s at stake.

[BroxburnHibee]

That is even by his standards completely bonkers.

[wpj]

I think he is going to have a briefing shortly. What crap will he come out with now?

[Captain Trips]

I think he is going to have a briefing shortly. What crap will he come out with now?

It will be streamed live on youtube and probably lots of other sources

[Tobias Funke]

I think he is going to have a briefing shortly. What crap will he come out with now?

Cutting off funding to the WHO. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

To think America might vote this sociopathic muppet in for another four years is a frightening prospect. Completely unhinged.

[stokesmessiah]

Cutting off funding to the WHO. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

To think America might vote this sociopathic muppet in for another four years is a frightening prospect. Completely unhinged.

It is terrifying that they might vote him in again. If they do then they deserve whatever happens.

[wpj]

The bestest president ever, that's me! I saved the world, I managed it all on my own.
What a clown!

[Just_Jimmy]

He'll get a second term. Probably comfortably as well.

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[stoneyburn hibs]

He'll get a second term. Probably comfortably as well.

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I think you're right Jimmy, absolute nuts.

[Bostonhibby]

Cutting off funding to the WHO. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

To think America might vote this sociopathic muppet in for another four years is a frightening prospect. Completely unhinged.He already wasn't paying before all this even happened.

I guess the USA are getting what they voted for.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200415/ea4a851e4f6f077813c28a3b6fba8316.jpg

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[Future17]

I see Trump has formed an advisory group of sports executives to get sport back to the masses. He said something like:

"I'm tired of watching 14 year old baseball games" before hastily adding that he was actually too busy to watch baseball.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mmmm so it's the top republican sex pest v the top democrat sex pest, both of them would give frank underwood a challenge.

what a choice the democrat voters have had...

Sanders 78..
Bloomberg 78..
Biden. 77..
Warren. a sprightly 70..

what is it with OAP's wanting to be presidents

[Just_Jimmy]

I think you're right Jimmy, absolute nuts.Historically it's rare for a sitting president to lose an election. Whilst it happens, usually other facts play a part.

I'd be delighted, shocked however.

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[CloudSquall]

Biden is going to get destroyed in the debates and in the wider campaign.


It's going to be car crash viewing given we're going to see Trump roast a guy that very much appears to be in the early stages of alzheimers.



They are going to have to have a very strong Vice President candidate to even stand a chance.

[Mon Dieu4]

Biden is going to get destroyed in the debates and in the wider campaign.


It's going to be car crash viewing given we're going to see Trump roast a guy that very much appears to be in the early stages of alzheimers.



They are going to have to have a very strong Vice President candidate to even stand a chance.

I think that the anti trump folk have a decent chance of making it a really close run thing

Totally agree though, having two people in their 70s without their mental faculties fully intact for one reason or another in a country of 328m people is lunacy

[Smartie]

I think that the anti trump folk have a decent chance of making it a really close run thing

Totally agree though, having two people in their 70s without their mental faculties fully intact for one reason or another in a country of 328m people is lunacy

There’s a lot I dislike about America but there’s also a lot that I love.

328m people - within that number, can they not find people more appropriate than this pair to lead them?

America has a rich pool of talent, charisma and intellect. I just cannot accept that there isn’t a more suitable presidential candidate out there and can only conclude that their system is broken.

[Mibbes Aye]

Said it a couple of times on this thread and I think, if he wants it, Andrew Cuomo can run from the floor of the convention. It won’t be easy but there is a window for him and no one else. He seems ambivalent about it though.

I really hope Kamala Harris gets the VP nomination. Apart from the fact she is smart and qualified, a black woman on the ticket - first female VP, first black VP - she makes Trump and Pence look very old, white and male. Unfortunately that ticket plays well in the non-coastal states.

My ideal ticket would have been a combination of Beto O’Rourke and Kamala Harris, probably with Harris as lead. Harris would make Trump look even worse than he manages to make himself look. Beto makes Texas a possibility for the Democrats which is a game changer.

[Sir David Gray]

He'll get a second term. Probably comfortably as well.

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His approval rating has gone down in recent weeks but I would agree, it's highly unusual for a US President not to get a second term.

The last time it happened was in 1993 when George Bush Snr failed to get re-elected.

I would be surprised if Trump doesn't win the upcoming election.

[Hibs Class]

This certainly won’t do Trump’s re-election hopes any harm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52293910

[jonty]

Trump; He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****.

https://leftlooking.blogspot.com/2019/02/why-do-brits-hate-trump-youve-got-to.html

[lord bunberry]

Biden is going to get destroyed in the debates and in the wider campaign.


It's going to be car crash viewing given we're going to see Trump roast a guy that very much appears to be in the early stages of alzheimers.



They are going to have to have a very strong Vice President candidate to even stand a chance.
He appears to be trying to initiate some kind of conflict with Iran or China to deflect from his handling of the covid crisis. The guy is a horrible, nasty piece of work.

[Iain G]

It is amazing that just when you think he can't be any more of a dangerous egomaniacal complete ****wit of a man, he manages to raise the bar yet again in his skills as a leader of people...am working out which toilet duck to inject and trying to work out whether to swallow my torch or shove a lighbulb up my backside based on current presidential advice...

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

"So it'd be interesting to check that."

Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Someone should genuinely just tell him to shut the **** up.

[Future17]

It is amazing that just when you think he can't be any more of a dangerous egomaniacal complete ****wit of a man, he manages to raise the bar yet again in his skills as a leader of people...am working out which toilet duck to inject and trying to work out whether to swallow my torch or shove a lighbulb up my backside based on current presidential advice...

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

"So it'd be interesting to check that."

Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Someone should genuinely just tell him to shut the **** up.

The so-called most powerful man on the planet thinks it might be a good idea for people to inject themselves with disinfectant. Wow.

[Sergio sledge]

It is amazing that just when you think he can't be any more of a dangerous egomaniacal complete ****wit of a man, he manages to raise the bar yet again in his skills as a leader of people...am working out which toilet duck to inject and trying to work out whether to swallow my torch or shove a lighbulb up my backside based on current presidential advice...

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

"So it'd be interesting to check that."

Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Someone should genuinely just tell him to shut the **** up.

Added to that is the fact that the drug he was pushing not too long ago had now undergone a (small) study which actually showed that deaths increased when using the drug. Now it was a very small study and very small sample size, but the guy is incredibly dangerous. The press can't even challenge him on it because he just replied "fake news" and his supporters lap it up. I've an American friend on Facebook who supports Trump and who constantly posts things telling people to stop reading mainstream press, open up their minds and stop being fed the lies that the fake news media are giving them.

[grunt]

The so-called most powerful man on the planet thinks it might be a good idea for people to inject themselves with disinfectant. Wow.
What is really crushingly depressing is the realisation that the first leader Johnson deemed it appropriate to call as he recovered from the virus was this certifiable cretin Trump. The UK Government ignores offers of assistance from our nearest neighbours in the EU, and yet calls Trump. God save us from our Government.

[Sylar]

I've gotten to the point where I don't feel I can post on, or comment on anything he says anymore, lest I be banned from all future entry to the USA (or visited by the Secret Service).

There's only one place in the USA that needs 'liberated', and it sits just off Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Hibs Class]

The so-called most powerful man on the planet thinks it might be a good idea for people to inject themselves with disinfectant. Wow.

This is what happened after one of his previous musings, it will most likely happen again

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-cure-kills-man-after-trump-touts-chloroquine-phosphate

[lapsedhibee]

The so-called most powerful man on the planet thinks it might be a good idea for people to inject themselves with disinfectant. Wow.

Voters gave him the platform. They're to blame. Ricky Gervais's cure for this. (https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/890132111616880640?lang=en)

[RyeSloan]

What is really crushingly depressing is the realisation that the first leader Johnson deemed it appropriate to call as he recovered from the virus was this certifiable cretin Trump. The UK Government ignores offers of assistance from our nearest neighbours in the EU, and yet calls Trump. God save us from our Government.

Bonkers or not Trump still leads the worlds biggest economy. It’s actions still impact the rest of the world disproportionately. It would therefore seem entirely relevant for Johnson to call him. He was also quoted as having discussions with other world leaders. But assuming Trump was the first on the list who do you think should have been there instead and why?

As for the EU PPE scheme...well that’s be a total mess for sure from the government but I suppose there is some solace in the fact that the scheme itself has allegedly still not delivered a single item of PPE to anyone!

Re the topic in hand...typical Trump...thinks his brain is bigger than everyone else’s combined and only he could think up a stunning medical advance and approach on the fly that outsmarts all the medical minds of the world instantly.

[grunt]

Bonkers or not Trump still leads the worlds biggest economy.
Too many people are allowing Trump to get away with this stuff. We shouldn't be saying "bonkers or not", we should be calling it out. Johnson should not be speaking to the US until they sort out the madman at the top. Look at the face of the US equivalent CMO, sitting there biting her tongue while her boss talks about UV light and disinfectant. Call him out, he's a danger to the world.

[grunt]

Voters gave him the platform. They're to blame. Ricky Gervais's cure for this. (https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/890132111616880640?lang=en)That's very good - and rather pertinent today.

[Bostonhibby]

Jeez, bleaching hasn't really worked on his hair or general strange orangey colour and now he's talking about the merits of injecting it.

I guess his supporters won't be queuing up for this one

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[Sir David Gray]

It is amazing that just when you think he can't be any more of a dangerous egomaniacal complete ****wit of a man, he manages to raise the bar yet again in his skills as a leader of people...am working out which toilet duck to inject and trying to work out whether to swallow my torch or shove a lighbulb up my backside based on current presidential advice...

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

"So it'd be interesting to check that."

Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Someone should genuinely just tell him to shut the **** up.

Frightening.

[CropleyWasGod]

In terms of helping our immune system, he's not far wrong in suggesting we get more sunshine or Vitamin D supplements.
I have extended my usual supplements longer into the Spring than I would normally .

But not as a ****ing cure.

[Ozyhibby]

Jeez, bleaching hasn't really worked on his hair or general strange orangey colour and now he's talking about the merits of injecting it.

I guess his supporters won't be queuing up for this one

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If they are then it will be an easy win for the democrats in November.[emoji23]


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[Iain G]

If they are then it will be an easy win for the democrats in November.[emoji23]


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Have you seen Joe Biden? This won't be an easy win for them at all.

Can we all have a whip round and Trump taken out? Even old Dr Mrs Anne Budge would be an improvement.... :greengrin

[Mr Grieves]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Daniel_Lewis3/status/1253482576699969537

This reaction says it all.

[Newry Hibs]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.

[lapsedhibee]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.
Certainly blue sky between the ears.

[Iain G]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.

He is a ****.

It's that simple.

[HibernianJK]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.

You’re the president of the most powerful country in the world. You do not think out loud on a cure for a deadly disease during a pandemic especially when your supporters are so obviously easily influenced.

Anything short of complete condemnation for his comments are absurd.

[Sir David Gray]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.

Maybe he shouldn't? :hmmm:

The man's the President of the USA, in the middle of a global health crisis and he's suggesting to people that there may be some merit in them injecting themselves with the American equivalent of Dettol.

There are millions of people who hang onto his every word, he has a huge responsibility to speak in a responsible and rational way when addressing the public.

Coming out and suggesting that people injecting themselves with disinfectant may help to protect them from this virus isn't just medically wrong, it's also potentially lethal. Whilst the majority of people who are of sound mind will dismiss this as nonsense, there will no doubt be people desperate enough that they will be tempted to try this.

"Thinking out loud" moments are for a couple of guys down the pub chatting amongst themselves, not for the most powerful man on the planet to do during an address to the nation, that's being broadcast worldwide.

[lapsedhibee]

"Thinking out loud" moments are for a couple of guys down the pub chatting amongst themselves, not for the most powerful man on the planet to do during an address to the nation, that's being broadcast worldwide.

He wasn't thinking out loud. That would require him to be able to think. FAKE NEWS.

[Smartie]

Of the 328m people in the USA, I wonder how many of them are actually less suited to the role of president than Trump?

[weecounty hibby]

If you listen to what he said - he is thinking out loud (maybe he shouldn't be doing that in his position) - 'blue skying' maybe over a possible solution. I don't think he is suggesting everyone chugs down some domestos.
Ok let's give him the benefit of the doubt here and that he is actually blue sky thinking. Should he do it A. In a meeting in private with scientists or B. Live in public with an audience of millions? The man is a complete megalomaniac who honestly believes he is the worl expert in everything and knows more than people who have studied or worked on a subject for their entire lives. He is indefensible on what he said so please don't try. People have already di d due to his advice on which concoction of drugs to take that might work

[Jim44]

He’s now claiming the press have twisted his words. That is his now his panacea for every shred of nonsense he utters and he knows he has a blank cheque to say or do whatever he wants. He will undoubtedly have another 4 years to contaminate his country and the rest of the world, but when his cumuppence arrives I hope the silent sycophants who surround him aren’t allowed to slink back under their stones without being answerable for their dishonesty and disingenuity.

[Hibs Class]

Ok let's give him the benefit of the doubt here and that he is actually blue sky thinking. Should he do it A. In a meeting in private with scientists or B. Live in public with an audience of millions? The man is a complete megalomaniac who honestly believes he is the worl expert in everything and knows more than people who have studied or worked on a subject for their entire lives. He is indefensible on what he said so please don't try. People have already di d due to his advice on which concoction of drugs to take that might work

He’s the textbook example of the Dunning Kruger effect

[Hibs Class]

He’s now claiming the press have twisted his words. That is his now his panacea for every shred of nonsense he utters and he knows he has a blank cheque to say or do whatever he wants. He will undoubtedly have another 4 years to contaminate his country and the rest of the world, but when his cumuppence arrives I hope the silent sycophants who surround him aren’t allowed to slink back under their stones without being answerable for their dishonesty and disingenuity.

Some balls to claim that when all the media have done is to play an unedited version of his own comments at his own conference!

[H18 SFR]

Scary thing is he will get voted in again. Willing to place a charity wager with anyone who wants a piece.

[BroxburnHibee]

Doing the usual tracking back his comments saying he wanted to see what the press would do.

50000 plus people dying and he's playing stupid games with the press.

[Sir David Gray]

Scary thing is he will get voted in again. Willing to place a charity wager with anyone who wants a piece.

I'd say it's a certainty.

Presidents rarely fail to get a second term.

[Ozyhibby]

I'd say it's a certainty.

Presidents rarely fail to get a second term.

Less than half of them have had a second term.


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[Hibby Bairn]

Less than half of them have had a second term.


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Gotta love a fact check 😂👍. Sorry SDG 👍.

[Sir David Gray]

Less than half of them have had a second term.


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Gotta love a fact check 😂👍. Sorry SDG 👍.

I was meaning more recently. It's not happened since 1993.