(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Callum_62]

What a depressing read. Stupidest nation on earth.All that winning

It will come home to roost eventually but my god humans are reaching a depth of stupidity I didn't think possible on a large scale

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[Hibrandenburg]

What a depressing read. Stupidest nation on earth.

They're everywhere, not just in the US. Farage, Trump, Putin and their ilk have tapped into vacant heads all over the world.

[Jim44]

The White House, Trump?, not ruling out foul play in the US oil tanker / Portuguese cargo ship collision in the North Sea. He loves courting controversy.

Ps The tanker was carrying aviation fuel and the cargo ship was carrying 15 containers of cyanide. I don’t think there’ll be a lot of swimming on the east coast of England this year.

[cabbageandribs1875]

poor Elonski, though it looks ok for me :confused:



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[Ozyhibby]

poor Elonski, though it looks ok for me :confused:



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Tesla having a bad day as well.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Tesla having a bad day as well.


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great

some day someone will bang this git on the nose...

Insulting since he served as a U.S. Navy captain and a NASA astronaut.
Kelly was a combat pilot and flew 39 combat missions during Operation Desert Storm in the Gulf War.



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[Smartie]

I’m staggered at the level of patience they’re showing towards these clowns stateside.

Dissing vets and turning your back on your allies would cause bother in normal times although I get that they might not be that big a deal to them in the crazy modern era.

It’ll be interesting to see how long they can last making rich people poorer though. Could get interesting earlier than expected.

[s.a.m]

I’m staggered at the level of patience they’re showing towards these clowns stateside.

Dissing vets and turning your back on your allies would cause bother in normal times although I get that they might not be that big a deal to them in the crazy modern era.

It’ll be interesting to see how long they can last making rich people poorer though. Could get interesting earlier than expected.

It's giving me 'Emperor's New Clothes' vibes. We can only hope that somebody calls it out, is heard and believed by the townsfolk, and everybody accepts that they've been had. And does something about it. Quickly would be good.:aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol

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[JimBHibees]

great

some day someone will bang this git on the nose...

Insulting since he served as a U.S. Navy captain and a NASA astronaut.
Kelly was a combat pilot and flew 39 combat missions during Operation Desert Storm in the Gulf War.



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On what level would that make the guy a traitor?

[grunt]

It's now illegal to not buy a Tesla.

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[Ozyhibby]

It's now illegal to not buy a Tesla.

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The Tesla boycott must be working. [emoji23]
Even after all the falls it’s massively over valued still. Without Musk it’s a £50 share at best. If it goes near that Musk will go bankrupt.


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[Andy Bee]

The Tesla boycott must be working. [emoji23]
Even after all the falls it’s massively over valued still. Without Musk it’s a £50 share at best. If it goes near that Musk will go bankrupt.


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I wonder if Musk has to give back the $55bn bonus he's due for the Tesla shares passing the threshold (can't remember the amount they had to rise)?

[lapsedhibee]

It's now illegal to not buy a Tesla.

He's also calling collusion ('secret or unlawful') against himself at the election. No, you ****wit, there was nothing secret about the opposition to you, though it may well be unlawful to vote against you next time round, if there is a next time. Radical left lunatics infected with the woke mind virus etc etc etc, all this stuff is being recorded for future historians to look at. You have to wonder what people who didn't live through it will make of it all.

[Ozyhibby]

I wonder if Musk has to give back the $55bn bonus he's due for the Tesla shares passing the threshold (can't remember the amount they had to rise)?

It’s probably still above that unfortunately.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

It's now illegal to not buy a Tesla.

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:faf:

This really is quite incredible that Americans voted for this moron.

[Jim44]

On what level would that make the guy a traitor?

Elon Moscovite is displaying how thick and blinkered he is. Since jumping into bed with Trump and Putin, any Ukraine sympathiser is deemed a traitor in their eyes. If the idiots continue this insane Fascist crusade it’s surely a matter of time till the less staunch Republicans turn on them and see sense.

[grunt]

Elon Moscovite is displaying how thick and blinkered he is. Since jumping into bed with Trump and Putin, any Ukraine sympathiser is deemed a traitor in their eyes. If the idiots continue this insane Fascist crusade it’s surely a matter of time till the less staunch Republicans turn on them and see sense.
I think there's a flaw in your argument.

[Bostonhibby]

Elon Moscovite is displaying how thick and blinkered he is. Since jumping into bed with Trump and Putin, any Ukraine sympathiser is deemed a traitor in their eyes. If the idiots continue this insane Fascist crusade it’s surely a matter of time till the less staunch Republicans turn on them and see sense.If they still have a vote in Trumpograd it might just make a difference. Especially if his strange wee sidekick hasn't completely taken over online voting and vote counting as well.

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[Moulin Yarns]

If they still have a vote in Trumpograd it might just make a difference. Especially if his strange wee sidekick hasn't completely taken over online voting and vote counting as well.

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I recommend watching The Good Fight, series 2 is a lot about the trump administration and the 2020 election.

[Bostonhibby]

I recommend watching The Good Fight, series 2 is a lot about the trump administration and the 2020 election.[emoji106]

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[Ozyhibby]

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[Jim44]

I think there's a flaw in your argument.

I hope not. There must be many centre right voters and elected members to say enough is enough. They must see that the USA is heading for political suicide and major civil disruption.

[McD]

I hope not. There must be many centre right voters and elected members to say enough is enough. They must see that the USA is heading for political suicide and major civil disruption.



One thing the American public do as a general rule, is support, celebrate, cheer, tub thump for and borderline fetishise is their armed forces. If Musk continues to attack veterans as posted earlier on this thread, it may have a backlash. Over to you Elon

[Berwickhibby]

The yanks really do look after their Veterans, whilst in the States last year, I saved between 20% and 30% wherever I shopped ate using my UK veterans card.

[Hibrandenburg]

One thing the American public do as a general rule, is support, celebrate, cheer, tub thump for and borderline fetishise is their armed forces. If Musk continues to attack veterans as posted earlier on this thread, it may have a backlash. Over to you Elon

All depends on who can convince them of their version of what constitutes true American patriotism.

[cabbageandribs1875]

this poor MAGA voter is getting it tight for realising she made a mistake in voting for the Trumpster Alex Cole on X: "Bwaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah ahahahaahhaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaah....h a!!!! https://t.co/HEGFyQSHRZ" / X (https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1899231415172255912)

[s.a.m]

I hope not. There must be many centre right voters and elected members to say enough is enough. They must see that the USA is heading for political suicide and major civil disruption.

If they were paying attention / not terrified of Trump and his thug militia I'm fairly sure they would. Unfortunately, a disturbing number of people seem to have no awareness of what's happening at the moment, or they were taken in by his TV mega-successful businessman identity and think he must be playing 4d chess. Republicans in Congress are reportedly scared for their families and livelihoods, between Trump, Musk and Maga, if they don't fall in line.

[The_Exile]

Bernie Sanders is selling out massive venues all over the US. I feel like the tide is turning on Trump already domestically. Of course, none of this being covered at all by the mainstream media, but feels like there's a real grassroots uprising happening in the US already, what are we, 6 or 7 weeks into the Trump presidency? If the Democrats had any sense they'd have him back and fronting the opposition voice.

[Mon Dieu4]

Bernie Sanders is selling out massive venues all over the US. I feel like the tide is turning on Trump already domestically. Of course, none of this being covered at all by the mainstream media, but feels like there's a real grassroots uprising happening in the US already, what are we, 6 or 7 weeks into the Trump presidency? If the Democrats had any sense they'd have him back and fronting the opposition voice.

Bernie was doing the exact same thing 10 years ago, it was his own party that ****ed him over twice, there is unfortunately a huge difference between him and the rest of the Democratic Party, they still aren't listening

[grunt]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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[Smartie]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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He'll be doing well to hang onto his current states let alone acquiring more.

His threats to Panama, Greenland, Canada and Mexico are being taken very seriously though.

[lapsedhibee]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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"Electricity" :faf: :crazy:

[Ozyhibby]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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Hold firm this time Donald. Americans need to experience the very real pain this will bring in order to prevent them being this stupid again.

I see the market are tanking again.[emoji1696][emoji106]


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[s.a.m]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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Just as the stock market was showing *slight* signs of recovery too.

I know very little about finance or economics, but this is the third time in a week that he's made harmful announcements affecting the markets. If this isn't deliberate destruction, does somebody who DOES know about finance and /or economics have an alternative suggestion (apart from him being stupid / mad / showing off his power 'cos he can)? :dunno:

[s.a.m]

Hold firm this time Donald. Americans need to experience the very real pain this will bring in order to prevent them being this stupid again.

I see the market are tanking again.[emoji1696][emoji106]


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I think you're right. And I think it needs to happen quickly so that people a) notice and b) are able to link cause and effect. Otherwise it'll be just like the last time with people becoming gradually inured to the increasing damage, corruption and ridiculousness.

[Berwickhibby]

The biggest threat to the US is fresh water as 90% of it come through Canada… a few well placed Dams and they are ******

[Ozyhibby]

The biggest threat to the US is fresh water as 90% of it come through Canada… a few well placed Dams and they are ******

I don’t think it will ever get to that. Trump would be hounded out long before that stage.


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[J-C]

This guy is a flipping lunatic

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How on earth can a country the size of America not manage to create enough electricity for themselves that they have to get it from Canada

[grunt]

Canadian perspective


https://youtu.be/aSq6YkGKprM?si=PVfYhYQkmXVj1uP2

[Ozyhibby]

How on earth can a country the size of America not manage to create enough electricity for themselves that they have to get it from Canada

They can but Canada can do it cheaper. Good for both parties.[emoji106]


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[Berwickhibby]

They can but Canada can do it cheaper. Good for both parties.[emoji106]


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Ontario have amazing Hydro generating power stations

[Ozyhibby]

Trump now turned into a car salesman for Musk.[emoji23]


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[Keith_M]

Is it illegal, as Trump claims, to boycott Tesla?


I must have missed that Executive Order.

[Jim44]

Is it illegal, as Trump claims, to boycott Tesla?


I must have missed that Executive Order.

He’s maybe introduced some sort of ‘treason’ Executive Order. :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Is it illegal, as Trump claims, to boycott Tesla?


I must have missed that Executive Order.If you ask nicely he will be only to happy to get his special big signature pen out, set up the TV cameras and issue the order.

No need for any of that cabinet or house of representatives or Senate input nonsense and it's unlikely his wee sidekick will overrule him on this one.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Cheeto Corleone (1) Canada Hates Trump on X: "Listen up Cheeto Corleone: You run America like a 2-bit mobster runnin’ a protection racket. Only you’re the dumbest in history, see? And here’s the ticket, Canada has a new boss Mark Carney. Sharp guy, wise guy. And guess what? He hates your ****in’ guts.https://t.co/gLJzhkQfov" / X (https://x.com/AntiTrumpCanada/status/1899431966618866063?fbclid=IwY2xjawI9oYpleHRuA2Flb QIxMAABHYfs_9qT2N39M2XIm62e42xYpbEK_UUVbwbFiqhab1g LhN0Am6brxRuwHg_aem_lnsNX9Qkh4LIsJEwvvq6Xw)

[Kato]

Cheeto Corleone (1) Canada Hates Trump on X: "Listen up Cheeto Corleone: You run America like a 2-bit mobster runnin’ a protection racket. Only you’re the dumbest in history, see? And here’s the ticket, Canada has a new boss Mark Carney. Sharp guy, wise guy. And guess what? He hates your ****in’ guts.https://t.co/gLJzhkQfov" / X (https://x.com/AntiTrumpCanada/status/1899431966618866063?fbclid=IwY2xjawI9oYpleHRuA2Flb QIxMAABHYfs_9qT2N39M2XIm62e42xYpbEK_UUVbwbFiqhab1g LhN0Am6brxRuwHg_aem_lnsNX9Qkh4LIsJEwvvq6Xw)"Nice country. Shame if something happened to it."

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Trumpster doing a little advertising for Tesla yesterday Republicans against Trump on X: "Donald Trump doing a Tesla infomercial for Elon Musk—his biggest political donor—in front of the White House is peak corruption. https://t.co/EpQ43g9dEg" / X (https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899545819717451817) of course Musk had his kid around him

[cabbageandribs1875]

"Nice country. Shame if something happened to it."

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i've started seeing various individuals on various threads suggesting a reason why Musk likes to have his small kid near him

[Ozyhibby]

Trumpster doing a little advertising for Tesla yesterday Republicans against Trump on X: "Donald Trump doing a Tesla infomercial for Elon Musk—his biggest political donor—in front of the White House is peak corruption. https://t.co/EpQ43g9dEg" / X (https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899545819717451817) of course Musk had his kid around him

Hilarious that the White House lawn is getting converted into a car lot.


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[grunt]

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[Jim44]

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I’ve seen this picture of the South African Fascist umpteen times and, every time, it shocks and angers me. Wealth aside, how does this excuse for a human being become the second most important person in the USA, the Land of Freedom and Opportunity.

[grunt]

Hilarious that the White House lawn is getting converted into a car lot.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Those Tesla sales figures are pretty impressive again this month.[emoji102]


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[Bostonhibby]

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Those Tesla sales figures are pretty impressive again this month.[emoji102]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkImpressive. Maybe corporate America would take even more interest if Ford found themselves similarly affected?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Canadian Liquor Stores no longer sell American Whiskey, hope this is country wide

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[Andy Bee]

Impressive. Maybe corporate America would take even more interest if Ford found themselves similarly affected?

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Ford is already sruggling badly with the EV market, around $5bn losses last year and the same the year before. They're scaling things back on EVs.

[Bostonhibby]

Ford is already sruggling badly with the EV market, around $5bn losses last year and the same the year before. They're scaling things back on EVs.[emoji106]Another bit of Trump related loss of market share and earnings might be just what the doctor (DOGER) ordered then.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Portugal rules out purchase of F-35's Portugal rules out purchase of F-35 fighters and evaluates European alternatives - Air Power – Aviation, Air Forces, Aerospace and Defense Industry (https://www.aereo.jor.br/2025/03/13/portugal-descarta-compra-de-cacas-f-35-e-avalia-alternativas-europeias/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJAKbNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTRk58Rf4R_T 9URE88oOnDqV43-jXxRy7RJ9Dmo6WGKsV327ckotxRKlpA_aem_V03mSj4Pq_Z4JJ uAW0MciQ)


Portugal's Minister of National Defence, Nuno Melo, announced that the country will not acquire F-35 fighters from the United States, considering the current geopolitical context and the unpredictability of US policy

[cabbageandribs1875]

Oh Dear Republicans against Trump on X: "JUST IN: Texas megachurch pastor and former Trump spiritual advisor Robert Morris has been indicted for molesting a 12-year-old girl. https://t.co/sFrpMH26Zp" / X (https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899991177304117752)

[Keith_M]

Oh Dear Republicans against Trump on X: "JUST IN: Texas megachurch pastor and former Trump spiritual advisor Robert Morris has been indicted for molesting a 12-year-old girl. https://t.co/sFrpMH26Zp" / X (https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899991177304117752)


I sense a Presidential Pardon in the works.

[silverhibee]

Another plane crash yesterday, what are the American people waiting for before they realise the blob they voted for is just slavering a load of lies every time he opens his mouth.

[Jim44]

Before I again put the boot in to 100% of Republican voters, I have generally considered that, say, 10% ( maybe fewer) of each party would be reasonably decent human beings and sensible voters, ie. centre right or centre left. Given the damning character and insanity of their elected representative, you could reasonably expect a high proportion of centre right Republicans would have the conviction to at least abstain from voting for a sexual predator, liar and convicted criminal. But, no, they didn’t. The conclusion has to be that each and every one of them is a lesser human being, lacking in human decency and moral conviction. Sorry for the random rant but I am more and more depressed daily by Trump’s total betrayal of his country and the blind acceptance by his sheep.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Trump plans on closing visitor centres in National Parks saying he wants to save American tax payers, as one comment points out it's cost multi-millions on security etc for his umpteen Golf Trips and a visit to the Superbowl in just three months Trump's plan to close park visitor centers sparks backlash (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/trump-s-plan-to-close-park-visitor-centers-sparks-backlash/ar-AA1AYwIL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=df55e9a5ca0d4fd391aa0ebf361263e4&ei=52)

[s.a.m]

Before I again put the boot in to 100% of Republican voters, I have generally considered that, say, 10% ( maybe fewer) of each party would be reasonably decent human beings and sensible voters, ie. centre right or centre left. Given the damning character and insanity of their elected representative, you could reasonably expect a high proportion of centre right Republicans would have the conviction to at least abstain from voting for a sexual predator, liar and convicted criminal. But, no, they didn’t. The conclusion has to be that each and every one of them is a lesser human being, lacking in human decency and moral conviction. Sorry for the random rant but I am more and more depressed daily by Trump’s total betrayal of his country and the blind acceptance by his sheep.

It's difficult to be optimistic about the character of Trump voters at the moment, but it is the case that a lot of them are hooked into an all-pervasive counter-narrative. In this world, the Republicans are the good guys and the Democrats are evil paedophiles who are kidnapping babies for their blood, along with other wild conspiracy theories. Also that they are communists who are coming for their money and their liberties... and that they will trash the economy because they're fiscally irresponsible... and also they want black people to outbreed white people so they can lock in a Democrat government for ever. This stuff is being blasted round the clock on TV / radio / podcasts. That's just the start of it, too.

The Republicans are presented by the right-wing media as being God-fearing, patriotic Americans who are rightfully standing up aginst invasion by rapey, homicidal, thieving immigrants. And despite the clear evidence that the economy fares better and adds less debt under Democrat rule, they're constantly being told the opposite.

As well as people who are taken in by the nonsense, there are a lot of people who know somewhere between very little and zero about what's going on - these exist everywhere, but it feels like there's a much bigger percentage of them here in the US? They'd be genuinely astonished to find out and probably wouldn't believe you if you told them. There are lots of people, apparently, who have no idea that Elon Musk is effectively running (wrecking) the government - or even who he is.

Equally harmful is the 'they're all as bad as each other' crew. Which is obviously - especially just now - wrong and dangerous. Nobody's perfect, but not every politician is as bad as the worst politicians or parties.

And there are people who would probably admit they don't care about anyone other than themselves, or that they have active animosity towards people who are different in some way, and that they believe they are being stolen from in taxes for people they think don't deserve it. Some are horrible / hypocritical /gullible. Some just lack curiosity about their world, or the ability to find out. I genuinely think that a lot of people who voted for Trump know little about him other than believing he was a successful businessman (...), because of the retrofit NBC did on his image for the Apprentice.

Unless something really big happens - and fast enough that people are able to connect it to the election of Trump - I don't see how it gets fixed. The population is living in completely separate information worlds: right wing / conspiracy; factual and mixed with a centre-leftish slant (by US standards), and low-information of any sort beyond screaming headlines (if that...)

I feel pretty miserable about it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I sense a Presidential Pardon in the works.


or at the very least he will want some invites

[s.a.m]

Trump plans on closing visitor centres in National Parks saying he wants to save American tax payers, as one comment points out it's cost multi-millions on security etc for his umpteen Golf Trips and a visit to the Superbowl in just three months Trump's plan to close park visitor centers sparks backlash (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/trump-s-plan-to-close-park-visitor-centers-sparks-backlash/ar-AA1AYwIL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=df55e9a5ca0d4fd391aa0ebf361263e4&ei=52)

He's also talking about sourcing timber from federal woodland instead of Canada can only hope that's not related. The parks are really important to a number of red states. They're massively popular with tourists, and draw millions to rural parts of the US where people would otherwise have little need to go. As well as the NPS staff losing their jobs, there's loads of small towns and villages heavilly dependent on the money and jobs they bring in.

And obviously the tragic loss of a genuine jewel in America's crown, and something they're rightly proud of.

[grunt]

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[MKHIBEE]

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” Genius has its limits, I’m not so sure about stupidity” seems an apt declaration

[Lendo]

Trump plans on closing visitor centres in National Parks saying he wants to save American tax payers, as one comment points out it's cost multi-millions on security etc for his umpteen Golf Trips and a visit to the Superbowl in just three months Trump's plan to close park visitor centers sparks backlash (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/trump-s-plan-to-close-park-visitor-centers-sparks-backlash/ar-AA1AYwIL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=df55e9a5ca0d4fd391aa0ebf361263e4&ei=52)

The ten golf trips since taking office have cost an estimated $180m.

[cabbageandribs1875]

He's also talking about sourcing timber from federal woodland instead of Canada can only hope that's not related. The parks are really important to a number of red states. They're massively popular with tourists, and draw millions to rural parts of the US where people would otherwise have little need to go. As well as the NPS staff losing their jobs, there's loads of small towns and villages heavilly dependent on the money and jobs they bring in.

And obviously the tragic loss of a genuine jewel in America's crown, and something they're rightly proud of.


The ten golf trips since taking office have cost an estimated $180m.


it's going to cost millions more on him improving his Golf swing Jo on X: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" / X (https://x.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1900987513205817437)

[Hibs4185]

Tesla have sent an unsigned letter to the US government asking it to consider the consequences of tariffs and the potential harm to the automotive industry.

Interesting the letter was unsigned given everyone knows who would have to authorise it.

First cracks between Musk and Trump? Musk can’t be Trump’s best buddy and be chief of Tesla, it’s just incompatible you’d think

[McD]

Tesla have sent an unsigned letter to the US government asking it to consider the consequences of tariffs and the potential harm to the automotive industry.

Interesting the letter was unsigned given everyone knows who would have to authorise it.

First cracks between Musk and Trump? Musk can’t be Trump’s best buddy and be chief of Tesla, it’s just incompatible you’d think



You’d think so, but it seems Trump is happy to take time off from his day job to do a sales pitch for Tesla on the White House lawn, so…

[cabbageandribs1875]

Trump seriously assaulted, possibly worse than the blade on his own ear attack :agree: BladeoftheSun on X: "OMG! What was that? Another assassination attempt? �� https://t.co/cJnty0OAAD" / X (https://x.com/BladeoftheS/status/1900988874995765551) :)

[Lendo]

Trump seriously assaulted, possibly worse than the blade on his own ear attack :agree: BladeoftheSun on X: "OMG! What was that? Another assassination attempt? �� https://t.co/cJnty0OAAD" / X (https://x.com/BladeoftheS/status/1900988874995765551) :)

don’t tease us with. I was getting ready to pop open the bubbly.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250317/68ee19d8ba5145296174a1a1beb247cc.png
I think it would be very unwise of him to undermine presidential pardon power.


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[Hibrandenburg]

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I think it would be very unwise of him to undermine presidential pardon power.


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He'll not care a fig because he's either banking on a third term or the introduction of a Trump Hereditary Monarchy.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Conor McGregor lost a civil rape case just a few months ago, and Donald Trump invited him to the white house today, wonder if the Tate Brothers were invited as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmQXx3GWAAANcq7?format=png&name=small

Conor is deffo Trumps kinda guy though, all sexual terrorists stick together

[cabbageandribs1875]

don’t tease us with. I was getting ready to pop open the bubbly.

some very funny comments on that post :greengrin

[grunt]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ncA8L4DZBto?si=bE9uieUIR7lXM4Z3

[cabbageandribs1875]

Led By Donkeys: "Thousands of people are ditching Tesla. Here’s one of them with a message you can see from space. Location: Black Rock Sands, Wales, UK Led By Donkeys is 100% funded by small donations." — Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/ledbydonkeys.org/post/3lklr4t5dts2y)

[cabbageandribs1875]

voters in Arkansas won't be happy with the cuts
(1) Chris Jones on X: "The Trump/Musk $1 billion USDA cuts will hurt families, schools, food banks, and local farmers across Arkansas. Just look at the numbers. The real question: Why hasn’t Gov. Sanders used her close personal relationship with President Trump to stand up for Arkansas? https://t.co/tAh7FlKAoK" / X (https://x.com/JonesForAR/status/1900944753559998585)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmGDKvpXEAAIclQ?format=jpg&name=large

[grunt]

**** hitting the fan tonight in Washington DC.

[Bostonhibby]

**** hitting the fan tonight in Washington DC.A bit of chaos is a would be dictator's friend?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250317/33fc8aeaecbd6246211a6622c010a292.jpg

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[Kato]

A bit of chaos is a would be dictator's friend?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250317/33fc8aeaecbd6246211a6622c010a292.jpg

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkIt's exactly what he's been doing. The more militant trumpers can't wait.

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[Bostonhibby]

It's exactly what he's been doing. The more militant trumpers can't wait.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkPlenty potential brown shirt leaders pardoned, Liz Truss and wee Nige parroting in his ear, surrounded by loyalists and inadequates who dare not challenge him - who knows what's possible.

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[Hibrandenburg]

Good article about what makes Trump tick. Fully agree with the author's psychological assessment but disagree with his guess at how this is all going to play out.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/corruption-trump-administration/681794/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cr&utm_campaign=2024_Content_InternationalTest_Prospe cting_Sales_Standard&utm_content=022525_OneWordTrump_NA_NA_NoCTA

[lapsedhibee]

Good article

:agree:

[Smartie]

Good article about what makes Trump tick. Fully agree with the author's psychological assessment but disagree with his guess at how this is all going to play out.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/corruption-trump-administration/681794/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cr&utm_campaign=2024_Content_InternationalTest_Prospe cting_Sales_Standard&utm_content=022525_OneWordTrump_NA_NA_NoCTA

How do you think it’s going to play out?

[grunt]

Proof!

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[grunt]

"Tren de Aragua is considered an invading foreign government because of its deep ties to the Maduro regime, which is also a close ally in our efforts to expel members of the Tren de Aragua terrorist organization."

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[Hibrandenburg]

How do you think it’s going to play out?

In short, civil war. He'll make a play for an extended leadership with the aim to pass on power to the person of his choice. He has enough hard core right wing followers on his side to at least try and seize permanent power by force. It's his and his henchmen's only hope, if they allow a Democratic government to succeed them, then they're toast. Any new Democratic government won't mess around dishing out justice next time.

[Ozyhibby]

In short, civil war. He'll make a play for an extended leadership with the aim to pass on power to the person of his choice. He has enough hard core right wing followers on his side to at least try and seize permanent power by force. It's his and his henchmen's only hope, if they allow a Democratic government to succeed them, then they're toast. Any new Democratic government won't mess around dishing out justice next time.

That’s the way I see it as well. The likes of Musk must know his space business is finished under a democrat govt. They are acting as though there will be no further elections.


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[Smartie]

In short, civil war. He'll make a play for an extended leadership with the aim to pass on power to the person of his choice. He has enough hard core right wing followers on his side to at least try and seize permanent power by force. It's his and his henchmen's only hope, if they allow a Democratic government to succeed them, then they're toast. Any new Democratic government won't mess around dishing out justice next time.

FWIW I agree.

I think there’ll be a tipping point where “enough is enough” for a significant chunk of people there.

It may be when the chance of another election comes and goes, it might be something else.

I actually suspect it might be much sooner. In a country with so many guns kicking about, I could see a clumsy grab at taking emergency powers at the first sign of unrest and a very swift escalation.

One thing I don’t expect is a peaceful “happily ever after”. It’s going to go belly up at some point.

After a very ugly and uncomfortable day of reckoning, I do expect for them to turn into something more familiar once more. If won’t be terminal.

[s.a.m]

In short, civil war. He'll make a play for an extended leadership with the aim to pass on power to the person of his choice. He has enough hard core right wing followers on his side to at least try and seize permanent power by force. It's his and his henchmen's only hope, if they allow a Democratic government to succeed them, then they're toast. Any new Democratic government won't mess around dishing out justice next time.


That’s the way I see it as well. The likes of Musk must know his space business is finished under a democrat govt. They are acting as though there will be no further elections.


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Maybe. Or maybe his thug army react to some Supreme Court judgement against Trump, and seize control rather than there be a battle between two sides. I don't know that there's a counter force to turn it into a war. Not yet, at least.

It's also possible that Musk / Vance pull off a 25th amendment stunt on Trump. It wouldn't be an improvement, but nor would it be a war - unless the Maga Massive take offence on behalf of their boy. There's question marks about Trump's health, and he regularly has these cannula type bruises on his hand. The other day when he was boasting about 'winning' his own golf tournament, he said it might be his last. On the other hand, it could just be trolling.

It's (you never know) possible that a majority on the Supreme Court find that a line has been crossed, and either slow it all down or allow him to be indicted. Or Congress finds its backbone and impeaches him... And the military / FBI are true to the oaths and do what is neccessary to remove the regime.

The whole Musk thing needs serious attention. Yesterday - without permission, or even informing anyone - he had somebody up on the roof of the White House, installing Starlink. Not a conflict of interest at all. Or a security risk.:rolleyes: The White House are saying that it is to deal with wifi blackspots in the building. This has been disputed.

[Ozyhibby]

Maybe. Or maybe his thug army react to some Supreme Court judgement against Trump, and seize control rather than there be a battle between two sides. I don't know that there's a counter force to turn it into a war. Not yet, at least.

It's also possible that Musk / Vance pull off a 25th amendment stunt on Trump. It wouldn't be an improvement, but nor would it be a war - unless the Maga Massive take offence on behalf of their boy. There's question marks about Trump's health, and he regularly has these cannula type bruises on his hand. The other day when he was boasting about 'winning' his own golf tournament, he said it might be his last. On the other hand, it could just be trolling.

It's (you never know) possible that a majority on the Supreme Court find that a line has been crossed, and either slow it all down or allow him to be indicted. Or Congress finds its backbone and impeaches him... And the military / FBI are true to the oaths and do what is neccessary to remove the regime.

The whole Musk thing needs serious attention. Yesterday - without permission, or even informing anyone - he had somebody up on the roof of the White House, installing Starlink. Not a conflict of interest at all. Or a security risk.:rolleyes: The White House are saying that it is to deal with wifi blackspots in the building. This has been disputed.

On the first paragraph, you have individual states with their own judiciaries etc. Significant different power bases exist.


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[s.a.m]

On the first paragraph, you have individual states with their own judiciaries etc. Significant different power bases exist.


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True. Hadn't thought about that. Don't know what the constitutional ( :rotflmao:) safeguards against state involvement in the Federal government attack or defence would be. Or fighting each other. I suppose what I meant was that I couldn't see a counter-movement to Maga emerging.

[Hibrandenburg]

That’s the way I see it as well. The likes of Musk must know his space business is finished under a democrat govt. They are acting as though there will be no further elections.


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That's the single most obvious hint at what they're thinking. The fact they're acting as if they will never be brought to account means they don't intend to let that happen and that can only mean one thing.

[Ozyhibby]

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tesla-board-members-executive-sell-off-100-million/story?id=119889047

Tesla execs dumping the stock.


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[Bostonhibby]

In short, civil war. He'll make a play for an extended leadership with the aim to pass on power to the person of his choice. He has enough hard core right wing followers on his side to at least try and seize permanent power by force. It's his and his henchmen's only hope, if they allow a Democratic government to succeed them, then they're toast. Any new Democratic government won't mess around dishing out justice next time.This is almost certainly how it will play out.

The groundwork is being done.

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[Off the bar]

I think civil unrest/violence verging on civil war is inevitable, the only question is what is the spark that lights the fire?
They’ve spent the last decade + dousing the country in petrol and liberally distributing matches.
My mrs is convinced that there will be a Tiananmen Square like incident where Trump orders the military/police to open fire on protesters and it’ll all go south from there.

[Smartie]

I think civil unrest/violence verging on civil war is inevitable, the only question is what is the spark that lights the fire?
They’ve spent the last decade + dousing the country in petrol and liberally distributing matches.
My mrs is convinced that there will be a Tiananmen Square like incident where Trump orders the military/police to open fire on protesters and it’ll all go south from there.

I think it’ll either be that, or he over-reaches, gets pegged back by the legal system, his latent army take to the streets in protest and then it all kicks off from there, nobody knowing who is on who’s side.

The “spark” will be the minute somebody actively stands in his way when he finally goes too far for someone of importance and integrity to tolerate.

[cabbageandribs1875]

they're laughing at Agent Krasnov Hoodlum ����: "Putin made Trump wait almost two hours. Their phone call was supposed to have taken place already, but Putin was still at a conference. When Putin is reminded of the meeting, everyone starts laughing; they're literally mocking Trump." — Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/nothoodlum.bsky.social/post/3lkoarwpups2l)

[cabbageandribs1875]

(1) evan loves worf on X: "I don’t think people should do this, mostly because if you wait long enough the Teslas will do it themselves https://t.co/YuQQqaYGos" / X (https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/1902124526936232181) more Teslas on fire, LA apparently

[Ozyhibby]

(1) evan loves worf on X: "I don’t think people should do this, mostly because if you wait long enough the Teslas will do it themselves https://t.co/YuQQqaYGos" / X (https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/1902124526936232181) more Teslas on fire, LA apparently

Wonder if all the vandalism is pushing up insurance costs for Tesla owners?


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[s.a.m]

Wonder if all the vandalism is pushing up insurance costs for Tesla owners?


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:tee hee:
I do actually feel kind of sorry for the people who bought them in the beforetimes, when they thought it was a (slightly flashier than necessary) commitment to cleaner fuel and the environment, and before Musk's ideology was out on display. Cybertruck owners...nah. No excuse.

Having never taken an interest in the stock market in my life, I'm glued to the US markets updates, and Tesla. Surprised it's taken this long for investors to object publicly to what he's done to their brand.

[Ozyhibby]

:tee hee:
I do actually feel kind of sorry for the people who bought them in the beforetimes, when they thought it was a (slightly flashier than necessary) commitment to cleaner fuel and the environment, and before Musk's ideology was out on display. Cybertruck owners...nah. No excuse.

Having never taken an interest in the stock market in my life, I'm glued to the US markets updates, and Tesla. Surprised it's taken this long for investors to object publicly to what he's done to their brand.

To be fair to Musk, he’s the only reason Tesla is valued as high as it is. Without his involvement it’s likely a $50 share. It might head there soon anyway though if their sales fall much lower. There are just better cars out there that are cheaper. And without the stigma.
My wee sister has one and I’ve enjoyed taking the piss at recent family get togethers. She won’t be buying another.
BYD have better cars cheaper.


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[s.a.m]

To be fair to Musk, he’s the only reason Tesla is valued as high as it is. Without his involvement it’s likely a $50 share. It might head there soon anyway though if their sales fall much lower. There are just better cars out there that are cheaper. And without the stigma.
My wee sister has one and I’ve enjoyed taking the piss at recent family get togethers. She won’t be buying another.
BYD have better cars cheaper.


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You're right - he's the reason for their overvaluing, and also for their losing value. Fair play to your wee sister; i'm sure an ethical and enjoyable choice at the time, spoiled because the owner's got out of his depth / revealed himself or whatever. Like you say, there are other, better options. I hope she stays safe. :aok:

I see a Vancouver motor show have removed them after they didn't volunteer to drop out, because of safety concerns for attendees and exhibitors.

[grunt]

I hate him so much.

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[grunt]

I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

Worth a read, I think.

[grunt]

https://bsky.app/profile/dorianlynskey.bsky.social/post/3lkpwvhwur225


I'm so tired of Trump's face, his voice, his ridiculous words, his nutty cabinet members, his awful voters, his imploding country. This 24/7 rolling atrocity of a presidency that poisons the entire world.

[s.a.m]

https://bsky.app/profile/dorianlynskey.bsky.social/post/3lkpwvhwur225

He's not alone.

[Ozyhibby]

I think civil unrest/violence verging on civil war is inevitable, the only question is what is the spark that lights the fire?
They’ve spent the last decade + dousing the country in petrol and liberally distributing matches.
My mrs is convinced that there will be a Tiananmen Square like incident where Trump orders the military/police to open fire on protesters and it’ll all go south from there.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250319/0f97cbefc4145ce7b04c4adbf0d27bf9.jpg

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[JimBHibees]

I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

Worth a read, I think.

Simply wow what a country. Truly despicable

[Paulie Walnuts]

Simply wow what a country. Truly despicable

And yet if you read the World Cup thread on the main board apparently nothing has changed in the USA since Trump regained power.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh dear

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmSFxfTXkAARk28?format=jpg&name=large
oopsie, is this a different one ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

oh dear

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmSFxfTXkAARk28?format=jpg&name=large
oopsie, is this a different one ?

Yeah. His wife is a Peruvian, the previous one was a Canadian woman.

[s.a.m]

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He said the same thing about the UK last year, while he was pouring petrol on the fire. I think, genuinely, this is his goal - along with Thiel and Yarvin, the Heritage Foundation and various others who have made clear they want different versions of a radically different US and global order. It turned out that the UK at large wasn't as up for it as he thought / hoped. The US definitely has a lot of people who think they're living in a cowboy movie and fighting the injuns, but there's also a (hopefully larger) amount who are either too complacent to fight or really don't want to live in a far-right theocracy / techno city / white supremacist fascist state.

It's certainly a possibility - and they're trying really hard to wind people up and wreck things - but i hope and believe that a majority of americans just want left alone, and will hopefully prevail. Trump's militia are certainly up for a fight, because they're thugs; I don't know how much the rest of the population are.
There are lots of anti-Musk /Trump demos happening, but not being given much coverage.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Yeah. His wife is a Peruvian, the previous one was a Canadian woman.

ah right, safe to say we will be hearing/reading a LOT more just like them in the coming weeks/months

[Paulie Walnuts]

ah right, safe to say we will be hearing/reading a LOT more just like them in the coming weeks/months

:agree:

[cabbageandribs1875]

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freak

[Paulie Walnuts]

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freak

Has anyone commited an act of violence against Musk? :confused:

[McD]

ah right, safe to say we will be hearing/reading a LOT more just like them in the coming weeks/months



Been loads of Trump voters who have been summarily dismissed by Musk and DOGE, and are stunned because they thought Trump would go after anyone but them

[Jones28]

Has anyone commited an act of violence against Musk? :confused:

The richest man in the world has suffered enough, a few cars have been tanned and people are calling him a Nazi for doing a Nazi salute.

Wheres the humanity?

[Hibrandenburg]

And yet if you read the World Cup thread on the main board apparently nothing has changed in the USA since Trump regained power.

Unfortunately it was always that way. People's indifference has acted as an enabler for many an evil regime gaining power.

[tamig]

Where’s Thatdayinmay16 guy who was going to spill the beans on Trump?

[tamig]

And yet if you read the World Cup thread on the main board apparently nothing has changed in the USA since Trump regained power.

hoboharry bingeing on the balanced news sources over there clearly.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Unfortunately it was always that way. People's indifference has acted as an enabler for many an evil regime gaining power.

:agree:

[grunt]

Seems relevant to discussion about World Cup ...

https://bsky.app/profile/nanoporous.net/post/3lkqpx2fj4k2k


French researcher, going to a conference in Houston, was forbidden entry to US; his work and personal electronics were both confiscated.

Why? Because a “random search” of his cell phone revealed a negative personal opinion on Trump and the Trump administration.

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/03/19/etats-unis-un-chercheur-francais-refoule-pour-avoir-exprime-une-opinion-personnelle-sur-la-politique-menee-par-l-administration-trump_6583618_3210.html

[Ozyhibby]

Seems relevant to discussion about World Cup ...

https://bsky.app/profile/nanoporous.net/post/3lkqpx2fj4k2k

Best I stay here then.[emoji102][emoji51][emoji23]


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Tesla board members, executive sell off over $100 million of stock in recent weeks - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tesla-board-members-executive-sell-off-100-million/story?id=119889047)

As Tesla stock has fallen in recent weeks, members of the board and an executive at Elon Musk's (https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/elonmusk) company have been selling off millions of dollars in stock, according to filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Together, four top officers at the company have offloaded over $100 million in shares since early February.

Last week, longtime Musk ally James Murdoch -- the estranged son of Fox boss Rupert Murdoch and a board member since 2017 -- became the latest to do so, exercising a stock option and selling shares worth approximately $13 million, according to an SEC filing (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000177134025000004/xslF345X05/edgardoc.xml). The sale took place on March 10, coinciding with the stock's largest single-day decline in five years.

Elon Musk's brother, Kimbal Musk, who also sits on the board, unloaded 75,000 shares worth approximately $27 million last month, according to a filing (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000149473125000001/xslF345X05/edgardoc.xml).

[cabbageandribs1875]

Been loads of Trump voters who have been summarily dismissed by Musk and DOGE, and are stunned because they thought Trump would go after anyone but them


and they're still probably more concerned about the price of Eggs, it was one of the vote winners

that and Haitians eating the neighbourhood cats & dogs

[s.a.m]

I've seen a few people suggesting that if you're travelling to the US, you're probably best doing it through a pre-clearance centre like Dublin. If you do get refused, ICE won't be able to lift you and transport you to a detainment centre. Probably a reasonable bit of advice - they're less hostile there too.

That's how I generally do it, but I was nearly tempted by a United direct flight for my next home trip. Glad I didn't.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I've seen a few people suggesting that if you're travelling to the US, you're probably best doing it through a pre-clearance centre like Dublin. If you do get refused, ICE won't be able to lift you and transport you to a detainment centre. Probably a reasonable bit of advice - they're less hostile there too.

That's how I generally do it, but I was nearly tempted by a United direct flight for my next home trip. Glad I didn't.

Good advice. Ridiculous that it has to be given as advice but good advice nonetheless.

[JimBHibees]

Seems relevant to discussion about World Cup ...

https://bsky.app/profile/nanoporous.net/post/3lkqpx2fj4k2k

Wow

[Bostonhibby]

What is it with this nutter? He's got planes falling out the sky, protests about DOGE on the streets and the boiled egg crisis but instead of fixing the f up at home he now thinks he should be running Ukraine's energy systems.

Obsessed with sticking his big coupon in all over the world despite his initial pledge to be less involved abroad.

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[Ozyhibby]

What is it with this nutter? He's got planes falling out the sky, protests about DOGE on the streets and the boiled egg crisis but instead of fixing the f up at home he now thinks he should be running Ukraine's energy systems.

Obsessed with sticking his big coupon in all over the world despite his initial pledge to be less involved abroad.

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He has no control or attention span.


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[Bostonhibby]

He has no control or attention span.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDefinitely it, and no one will tell this multi timed bankrupt that it looks a bit seedy still playing at making deals when folk are dying, and he hasn't got much of a record at "great" deal making.

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[grunt]

World Class Idiot Russell Brand is the first to break the news on the real identity of the person who shot JFK. Huge if true.

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[Jones28]

World Class Idiot Russell Brand is the first to break the news on the real identity of the person who shot JFK. Huge if true.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5mqpgxjffcckasqv7h6g7itu/bafkreiandkt3ibzvr7pjpzm55i6e5j7zw37ppxmvr77nlkpqx tw5cel4hu@jpeg

I don't think the term "jumped the shark" does justice to Brands contribution to society these days.

A shill for populism and one of the original grifters of the far right.

I used to quite like him 10 years ago.

[Moulin Yarns]

Where’s Thatdayinmay16 guy who was going to spill the beans on Trump?

I think they were away to do their homework at 5pm

[s.a.m]

What is it with this nutter? He's got planes falling out the sky, protests about DOGE on the streets and the boiled egg crisis but instead of fixing the f up at home he now thinks he should be running Ukraine's energy systems.

Obsessed with sticking his big coupon in all over the world despite his initial pledge to be less involved abroad.

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He's also decided to take a close interest in an apparently necessary refurbishment of the Kennedy Centre. Needs marble and or granite he says, plus a big reworking of a part of it he doesn't like. He expects it to be really expensive, but hey, must be done. Talented multi-tasker, this lad :rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

World Class Idiot Russell Brand is the first to break the news on the real identity of the person who shot JFK. Huge if true.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5mqpgxjffcckasqv7h6g7itu/bafkreiandkt3ibzvr7pjpzm55i6e5j7zw37ppxmvr77nlkpqx tw5cel4hu@jpeg

To the manor Bourne.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

wee reminder what Kamala Harris said of Trump

(6) CALL TO ACTIVISM on X: "Kamala was RIGHT about Trump and Putin: “These dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors. And that is why so many military leaders…have told me you are a disgrace.” https://t.co/TsSE4tE3kx" / X (https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1902122267254919563)

[Stevie Reid]

This is a long and absolutely terrifying read:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

EDIT: apologies, already posted

[Smartie]

This is a long and absolutely terrifying read:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

EDIT: apologies, already posted

There are some fairly terrifying stories going about regarding the US ICE.

A gay German man has been tortured nearly to death and there are rumours that a woman is missing completely.

The Germans have publicly advised regarding the safety of travel for certain groups and we're apparently not far from doing similar.

It's bloody awful.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There are some fairly terrifying stories going about regarding the US ICE.

A gay German man has been tortured nearly to death and there are rumours that a woman is missing completely.

The Germans have publicly advised regarding the safety of travel for certain groups and we're apparently not far from doing similar.

It's bloody awful.

Do you have a link to those?

Not doubting you btw, just haven’t read about either.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Donald Trump has signed an executive order that will "begin eliminating" the federal Department of Education (DoE) (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce985pxlr70t?post=asset%3Afb3009bd-cfbf-4abd-92f6-530a93b18e41#post)

Trump says that "this is the right thing to do", adding that the DoE will be shut "as quickly as possible"

Most experts say that entirely scrapping the department would require an act of Congress

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bus Stop outside the U.S Embassy in London

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmcHBIMbwAAxjM3?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ozyhibby]

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And spelling it wrong as well.[emoji849]


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[Ozyhibby]

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[lapsedhibee]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250321/8694c19d17e3a215a57972af02379031.jpg


In his wee bubble, he thought that 'buying' a Tesla car on the lawn would make everyone like Elon Musk, the scamp.

[Bostonhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250321/8694c19d17e3a215a57972af02379031.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAn interesting contrast with the terrorists who killed police officers and injured other innocent Americans when they invaded Congress and were subsequently pardoned.

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[JimBHibees]

An interesting contrast with the terrorists who killed police officers and injured other innocent Americans when they invaded Congress and were subsequently pardoned.

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Heroes apparently

[Bostonhibby]

Heroes apparentlyWonder what the orange guys response would be if a group/mob of disgruntled democratic patriots decided to respond in exactly the same way to something they didn't like?

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[McSwanky]

democratic patriots

Oxymoron as far as he's concerned.


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[Bostonhibby]

Oxymoron as far as he's concerned.


Sent from my Pixel 8a using TapatalkHe definitely is one[emoji6]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Trump says the New York Times is "the enemy of the people" :rolleyes: (1) Really American 🇺🇸 on X: "BREAKING: In a stunning moment, Donald Trump tells reporters in the Oval Office that the New York Times is "the enemy of the people" because he disagrees with their criticism of him. This is how authoritarian dictators speak. https://t.co/ZGJodyKUrn" / X (https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1903115663733919969)

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/03/teslas-could-be-insurance-blacklisted-if-anti-musk-vandalism-continues/
Tesla insurance set to rise. Shame.


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[Bostonhibby]

Trump says the New York Times is "the enemy of the people" :rolleyes: (1) Really American [emoji631] on X: "BREAKING: In a stunning moment, Donald Trump tells reporters in the Oval Office that the New York Times is "the enemy of the people" because he disagrees with their criticism of him. This is how authoritarian dictators speak. https://t.co/ZGJodyKUrn" / X (https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1903115663733919969)A certain Adolf Hitler was quick to close down any press that wasn't delivering his own propaganda.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.politico.eu/article/musks-x-suspends-opposition-accounts-turkey-protest-civil-unrest-erdogan-imamoglu-istanbul-mayor/

As Erdogan starts arresting his opposition, Musk helps by kicking them off X.


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[Hibrandenburg]

https://www.politico.eu/article/musks-x-suspends-opposition-accounts-turkey-protest-civil-unrest-erdogan-imamoglu-istanbul-mayor/

As Erdogan starts arresting his opposition, Musk helps by kicking them off X.


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"Dictators of the world unite."

[Bostonhibby]

"Dictators of the world unite."Axis of evil, to quote George Bush

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[Baader]

American fascism. Never thought it would happen there. But make no mistake, it has.

[grunt]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/21/uk-subs-band-detained-deported?fbclid=IwY2xjawJLtKpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHf5f SB6rPRWcmoWm5bLKB6elnGrM-3vealbHr9BHPvQRqAYuW7fetVIUBQ_aem_g8Kljf9HtUVmMYKw o2b3Qg

Members of British punk rock band UK Subs denied entry into the US

[Ozyhibby]

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[Hibs4185]

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Unfortunately it’s the only way forward. I’m sure the American arms industry will be delighted losing nearly the whole world as customers

[cabbageandribs1875]

wtaf is he on about

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/485714156_1089584556543629_6726399324632643379_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=mbrc5jzIw3MQ7kNvgEvcvCA&_nc_oc=AdkciNMXbA7tqXrw4E-2ZBPI6sJdzSk8og3X-Wre_bGTwo-zDklMYXaCo4gS-fFOOJU&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=lN-FmJ5fchIvXjQCjk4Gwg&oh=00_AYFGr8Ysba4r_fUOMJEbVQ9Jt330a-ZEW7tokIn63ZCuiw&oe=67E4C7DC

[Bostonhibby]

wtaf is he on about

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/485714156_1089584556543629_6726399324632643379_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=mbrc5jzIw3MQ7kNvgEvcvCA&_nc_oc=AdkciNMXbA7tqXrw4E-2ZBPI6sJdzSk8og3X-Wre_bGTwo-zDklMYXaCo4gS-fFOOJU&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=lN-FmJ5fchIvXjQCjk4Gwg&oh=00_AYFGr8Ysba4r_fUOMJEbVQ9Jt330a-ZEW7tokIn63ZCuiw&oe=67E4C7DCPeople tell him what he can do is enormous.....
People are always telling him things.

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[lapsedhibee]

People are always telling him things.


Not always. Sometimes he sees them on TV. The thing with the foreigners eating Americans' pets, he saw that reported on TV.

[Bostonhibby]

Not always. Sometimes he sees them on TV. The thing with the foreigners eating Americans' pets, he saw that reported on TV.Must be true then, he is such a trusting soul.

Maybe it's these people in the small box that speak to him who are to blame?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

this capitulation is just bloody awful, disgraceful bending over for Trump Trump cancels executive order against law firm after $40m promise - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d4kex0w2ro)

Trump's order last week had cancelled contracts with the firms citing Trump's orders to wipe out any initiatives aimed at Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) within the federal government.
The Truth Social post also included a statement from Mr Karp, who said: "We are gratified that the President has agreed to withdraw the Executive Order concerning Paul, Weiss. We look forward to an engaged and constructive relationship with the President and his Administration."
Many in the legal community have expressed outrage over the deal, which one lawyer said was a "sad day for the legal industry".
Marc Elias, a former Perkins Coie partner and a top lawyer for Democrats, assailed the agreement in a post on social media platform Bluesky.
"Paul Weiss, didn't just bend a knee, it set a new standard for shameful capitulation," he wrote. "This is a stain on the firm, every one of its partners, and the entire legal profession."
Soon after Trump made the announcement, Rachel Cohen, an associate at the Skadden Arps legal firm, resigned in a blistering company-wide email condemning the agreement.


everyone is petrified of that ***t

and Starmer and the Bugger-lugged monarch invite him over here to blow him even more

[grunt]

https://downthetubes.net/comic-creator-re-burke-her-visa-story/

Comic Creator RE Burke: Her Visa Story

[Smartie]

Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

[MKHIBEE]

Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

I have never felt the desire to go to the USA, I now feel I’m missing out on letting The Tangoed One know how I feel. I’m just not going to go even more than I did before. That will teach him

[Hibrandenburg]

https://downthetubes.net/comic-creator-re-burke-her-visa-story/

Comic Creator RE Burke: Her Visa Story

Social media is awash with similar stories at the moment. If this was any other country treating its visitors like this, then governments world wide would be reacting with outrage. It all fits the picture that is unfolding in front of us, next we'll see restrictions in freedom of the press then they'll go after American citizens deemed undesirable. Once they get away with one despicable policy, they'll move on to the next like boiling frogs in an ever expanding move towards total control. Thus far I see no real resistance.

[Bostonhibby]

Social media is awash with similar stories at the moment. If this was any other country treating its visitors like this, then governments world wide would be reacting with outrage. It all fits the picture that is unfolding in front of us, next we'll see restrictions in freedom of the press then they'll go after American citizens deemed undesirable. Once they get away with one despicable policy, they'll move on to the next like boiling frogs in an ever expanding move towards total control. Thus far I see no real resistance.A bit of reciprocity?

Starting with the orange guys visit to Europe?

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[Hibrandenburg]

A bit of reciprocity?

Starting with the orange guys visit to Europe?

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I'd rather see us distancing ourselves in every way possible. Reciprocate treatment of innocent US citizens would make us as bad as them and only give credibility to Trump's claims that everyone is against them. Like Brexiteers, MAGA cult members would see mistreatment of Americans living abroad as acceptable collateral damage.

[Bostonhibby]

I'd rather see us distancing ourselves in every way possible. Reciprocate treatment of innocent US citizens would make us as bad as them and only give credibility to Trump's claims that everyone is against them. Like Brexiteers, MAGA cult members would see mistreatment of Americans living abroad as acceptable collateral damage.

No arguments from me, my intent was to hopefully see the orange guy feeling uncomfortable. Likes to be feted. Be interesting to see what protest our leaders might allow.

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[Hibs4185]

I get stopped every time I go to the US. Not just stopped but carted off to a seperate zone beside a lot of dodgy looking folks .

First time it was with my in laws. My father in law was saying to my wife I must have something in my background that is dodgy.

Turns out it’s because I have a very common name and there is a few people with my name banned from the US.

No chance im going now!

[Bristolhibby]

Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

Mad that people are saying take a burner phone with you to America.

Even more insane the fact that they can even ask you to unlock your phone.

J

[marinello59]

Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

:agree:
Until this regime changes it’s best avoided.

[Bostonhibby]

:agree:
Until this regime changes it’s best avoided.On the list with North Korea, Belarus, Russia, Israel and a fair chunk of the Arab world fttb.

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[Moulin Yarns]

I get stopped every time I go to the US. Not just stopped but carted off to a seperate zone beside a lot of dodgy looking folks .

First time it was with my in laws. My father in law was saying to my wife I must have something in my background that is dodgy.

Turns out it’s because I have a very common name and there is a few people with my name banned from the US.

No chance im going now!

Been twice and the same thing happened. Apparently I share my name with some Jamaican drug lord!!

🤣

[Bridge hibs]

Been twice and the same thing happened. Apparently I share my name with some Jamaican drug lord!!

🤣 Nankissoon Boodram ? 😳

[grunt]

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3ll36ddonjc2w


Denmark is not being a good ally. If we need to take Greenland that is what President Trump will do because he doesn't care about what Europeans scream at us.

[grunt]

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Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:rhmku3twwsqmsfwthxde2he5/bafkreid3k2linunpwr2jfbfkb26cphlzg2kuog6wjwswgcfmp f37muklae@jpeg

Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic.

Probably hoping he'd publish and then get him up on some Trumped up charge of treason.

[grunt]

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[Off the bar]

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These are the same people who wanted Clinton jailed for using a private email server and they’re deciding who to bomb on a WhatsApp group chat where they’ve accidentally included a journalist. ****ing clowns.

[Smartie]

https://bsky.app/profile/mattgertz.bsky.social/post/3ll5fgfmwus2i

Some absolutely cracking clips on this thread.

[DaveF]

Trump knows nothing about the report.

Hesgeth discredits the journalist and says no one texted war plans.

It's just one lie after another.

[marinello59]

Trump knows nothing about the report.

Hesgeth discredits the journalist and says no one texted war plans.

It's just one lie after another.

If I was Jeffrey Goldberg I wouldn't be going near hotel balconies for a while.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-sales-plummet-eu-elon-musk-2049902

Tesla sales down 49%
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[Paulie Walnuts]

The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

[Jones28]

The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

It truly is, Simon Marks on LBC saying that one of them has their auto-delete on when ALL government communication should be archived.

Heads should roll for this, but of course this is Trumps America, where he knows nothing and as a result nothing will happen.

Russia, China and everyone else will be laughing at this.

[Ozyhibby]

It truly is, Simon Marks on LBC saying that one of them has their auto-delete on when ALL government communication should be archived.

Heads should roll for this, but of course this is Trumps America, where he knows nothing and as a result nothing will happen.

Russia, China and everyone else will be laughing at this.

Heads may well roll if it suits Trump. He is not shy about firing people although so far this administration has been quieter than the last one.


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[Smartie]

The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

[Hibernian Verse]

I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.

[Kato]

That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.Hegseths hysterical reaction says to me they just messed up.

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[The Tubs]

I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

That's what I started thinking this morning. Something like politics as entertainment, which has become Trump's forte. If you see it through this perspective, you can imagine these clowns are the heroes of some film.

[Smartie]

That's what I started thinking this morning. Something like politics as entertainment, which has become Trump's forte. If you see it through this perspective, you can imagine these clowns are the heroes of some film.

If you think about who the Trump administration target most of their communications at... the content of these messages is 100% aligned with their usual messaging.

So whilst it's embarrassing on a national security level, it's not embarrassing or inconsistent on any other level ie Vance chucking a pro-Ukraine strop, there being pro DEI messages, slagging of the big boss or the like. They probably don't even care about the national security stuff as they rarely appear to be a serious regime anyway as opposed to bunch of cretins.

Still - hear hooves, think horses, not zebras. It's most likely incompetence.

[matty_f]

That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.

It's incompetence.

They don't need to do subtlety, this is a president who boasted about grabbing women by the p****, a convicted criminal, a sex offender, a fraudster, a racist. A guy who pardoned people who stormed the White House and humiliated a peer visiting the White House to make a point.

Trump's whole image centres on being the one who decides what happens, who sees himself as untouchable no matter what.

He doesn't need to accidently leak anything, he can say it out loud and idiots lap it up.

These are incompetents, there's no doubt about it imho.

[nonshinyfinish]

A guy who pardoned people who stormed the White House

Fake news!

(They stormed the Capitol building)

[matty_f]

Fake news!

(They stormed the Capitol building)

Ah I'm not a details guy, I think that's clearly been established by now 🙈

[Bostonhibby]

Ah I'm not a details guy, I think that's clearly been established by now [emoji85]Don't worry about it, they'll do the White House next time.

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[Pretty Boy]

I can't make my mind up on this one.

They are so incompetent it wouldn't be a shock if it was an error. On the other hand doing it deliberately while pretending it was a mistake seems exactly the kind of thing a moron would do and think was clever.

[Ozyhibby]

They are now claiming it wasn’t classified which gives the journalist free rein to publish the lot. Not smart.


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[Bostonhibby]

They are now claiming it wasn’t classified which gives the journalist free rein to publish the lot. Not smart.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSeems like a terrific foreign policy idea to tell the "enemy" in unclassified form what you are going to to to them and when and at the same time let would be hostile groups have the names of the decision makers as well.

Simultaneously slagging off allies whose territory, information and goodwill you actually do need is so Trump/Vance.



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[Kato]

They are now claiming it wasn’t classified which gives the journalist free rein to publish the lot. Not smart.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSomeone has to classify it as such. Plans for a military op should, under military rules, be termed as "classified". So they are showing their incompetence from that angle.

Trump now blaming the app and saying there was some fault with it.

Scrambling around with a multitude of excuses - doesn't seem like they were playing 5D chess at all. More like they are just chumps, totally unqualified for the jobs divvied out to them, and their only special skill being loyalty to the Orangutan-Jesus.

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[Ozyhibby]

Someone has to classify it as such. Plans for a military op should, under military rules, be termed as "classified". So they are showing their incompetence from that angle.

Trump now blaming the app and saying there was some fault with it.

Scrambling around with a multitude of excuses - doesn't seem like they were playing 5D chess at all. More like they are just chumps, totally unqualified for the jobs divvied out to them, and their only special skill being loyalty to the Orangutan-Jesus.

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Blaming the app isn’t great because the whole point is the dumb ***** should not have been using it.[emoji2369]


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[Bostonhibby]

Blaming the app isn’t great because the whole point is the dumb ***** should not have been using it.[emoji2369]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkGot a wonder how this cluster**** of Trump admirers would handle it if they ever had to manage any acts of aggression towards them at a time they never expected it?

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[s.a.m]

Got a wonder how this cluster**** of Trump admirers would handle it if they ever had to manage any acts of aggression towards them at a time they never expected it?

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To be honest, some of the clowns they've assembled are so egregiously wrong for the job - or public office of any sort - that I'm not sure they're actually meant to be able to manage.

I'm never comfortable looking for conspiracy, but I'm struggling to come up with anything other than, for whatever reason, they're there
to break stuff.

[nonshinyfinish]

doesn't seem like they were playing 5D chess

More likely to be eating the pieces

[H18S NX]

Typical Trump,deny responsibility,blame everyone else.He has done this all his life,the freak.

[s.a.m]

The Atlantic has released the full text exchange:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

[s.a.m]

Here's non-paywalled updates from CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-news-03-26-25/index.html

[Jones28]

Here's non-paywalled updates from CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-news-03-26-25/index.html

Staggering, absolutely staggering levels of negligence and incompetence.

Times of launches and plans, this could have been a disaster for the airmen and women.

[Bostonhibby]

Staggering, absolutely staggering levels of negligence and incompetence.

Times of launches and plans, this could have been a disaster for the airmen and women.I know who was lying and putting their servicemen at risk, and it definitely wasn't Goldberg.

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[Ozyhibby]

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[greenlex]

Staggering, absolutely staggering levels of negligence and incompetence.

Times of launches and plans, this could have been a disaster for the airmen and women.
It’s ok Elon is looking into it.

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13336071

UK to bend the knee.


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[Jones28]

The relationship we had/have with the US needs put on ice until the adults take control again.

Like Ross and Racheal in Friends - ironically a very popular US export - we need a break.

Something is happening with these tariff policies, he's either trying to crash the economy on purpose - maybe the interest he is due on his loans is up for renewal. I can't help but think there are some very wealthy people in America who are betting on this happening and when it does they will make fortunes. Big Short style.

Crash economy = widespread rioting = marshall law = Trump is King forever?

The other alternative is he really is just insane and doesn't know what tariffs actually mean for ordinary people - not that he'd give a **** if he did know.

9 weeks of Trumps presidency and already it has been more mental than the collective whole of his first term.

[lapsedhibee]

https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13336071

UK to bend the knee.


If Krasnov has had instructions to collapse The West, I'm sure Reeves can prevent this happening by making statements.

[grunt]

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[Smartie]

I'd originally thought that it might be a decent time to have adults like Starmer and co in charge during this Trump era vs some of the cretins we've had in recent years.

They're in danger of dithering into "weak" territory now though, which isn't what you want when bullies start chucking their weight around.

[DaveF]

https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13336071

UK to bend the knee.


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But it's a special relationship. Or something like that.

[Hibs4185]

Never thought I’d hear myself saying this but I wish somebody would shoot that MTG.

She’s absolutely vile and a disgrace to humanity.

As is most of the new administration to be honest. Every day is just sickening

[DaveF]

Never thought I’d hear myself saying this but I wish somebody would shoot that MTG.

She’s absolutely vile and a disgrace to humanity.

As is most of the new administration to be honest. Every day is just sickening

She is as mad as a box of frogs. Her comments to the sky reporter just shows what level of stupid is deep rooted within the republican party.

She is so full of hate.

[s.a.m]

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1905022554093285670

Talking of shooting...

[DaveF]

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1905022554093285670

Talking of shooting...

Saw that earlier. Probably a line of venezualen migrants down the other end.

[Sergio sledge]

She is as mad as a box of frogs. Her comments to the sky reporter just shows what level of stupid is deep rooted within the republican party.

She is so full of hate.

Just saw that, what a horrible woman. The press secretary Leavitt is horrible as well, comical Ali levels of delusion and diversion.

[Aldo]

Just saw that, what a horrible woman. The press secretary Leavitt is horrible as well, comical Ali levels of delusion and diversion.

A reporter interjected during this and she asked, where are you from. America. Ok what’s your question. Just answer her question in full.

Credit to Goldberg for call their bluff abd printing then and also for not revealing the undercover operative who by all accounts was mentioned by name in one of these messages.

Discredit, deflect and distract is what every single one of his new team seem to do with ease.

[Sergio sledge]

A reporter interjected during this and she asked, where are you from. America. Ok what’s your question. Just answer her question in full.

Credit to Goldberg for call their bluff abd printing then and also for not revealing the undercover operative who by all accounts was mentioned by name in one of these messages.

Discredit, deflect and distract is what every single one of his new team seem to do with ease.

The sad thing is that this absolutely works with their supporters, they lap it up.

Goldberg was called a sleazebag and a loser by Trump and a liar and **** by others and trumpers absolutely love it.

See he’s now opening up coal mines for “good clean coal” because wind doesn’t look good and kills all the birds apparently.

[Bostonhibby]

The sad thing is that this absolutely works with their supporters, they lap it up.

Goldberg was called a sleazebag and a loser by Trump and a liar and **** by others and trumpers absolutely love it.

See he’s now opening up coal mines for “good clean coal” because wind doesn’t look good and kills all the birds apparently.It's not ordinary coal of the type that comes with risks, people keep telling him this is clean coal.

Maybe he's bleached it.

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[Aldo]

The sad thing is that this absolutely works with their supporters, they lap it up.

Goldberg was called a sleazebag and a loser by Trump and a liar and **** by others and trumpers absolutely love it.

See he’s now opening up coal mines for “good clean coal” because wind doesn’t look good and kills all the birds apparently.

They totally do. It’s utter madness.

Tomorrow’s another day and I wonder what that will bring.

[tamig]

They totally do. It’s utter madness.

Tomorrow’s another day and I wonder what that will bring.

You’re spot on sadly. Every morning there seems to be another new piece of **** put out there by him or one of his pathetic lackies. I despise Trump but Vance is on a different level on the hate scale. What a horrible human being.

[CropleyWasGod]

The sad thing is that this absolutely works with their supporters, they lap it up.

Goldberg was called a sleazebag and a loser by Trump and a liar and **** by others and trumpers absolutely love it.

See he’s now opening up coal mines for “good clean coal” because wind doesn’t look good and kills all the birds apparently.

Wait until he finds out how many birds are killed by cats.

He'll be grabbing all them pussies.

[Aldo]

You’re spot on sadly. Every morning there seems to be another new piece of **** put out there by him or one of his pathetic lackies. I despise Trump but Vance is on a different level on the hate scale. What a horrible human being.

They are all Narcissistic egotists who use their positions to say and do what they want knowing nothing will happen cos their pals in charge.

100 days or so in and it’s fair to say things won’t get any better anytime soon.

[lapsedhibee]

100 days or so in and it’s fair to say things won’t get any better anytime soon.

Not even 70. It just seems much, much longer.

[Bostonhibby]

Wait until he finds out how many birds are killed by cats.

He'll be grabbing all them pussies.People tell him the Haitians are eating all their domestic pets, or is it domestic pets are eating all the Haitians?



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[Aldo]

Not even 70. It just seems much, much longer.

There you go. For some reason I thought it was longer.

[Ozyhibby]

Need him to hold firm on the tariffs this time. Only when he crashes their economy will Americans turn on him.


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[Ozyhibby]

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[s.a.m]

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Good god.

[matty_f]

Good god.

Assuming it's true, I'm almost lost for words that this stuff a) is happening and b) won't even register as a bad thing for far too many people.

It blows my mind that America voted that prick back in to the White House.

[Aldo]

So it’s back to Greenland for Trump and co today. Dropping hints that Russia and China are interested in Greenland. Planting the seed in their supporters sparse brains and those hanging on their every single word.

Vance today :

Greenland is extremely vulnerable right now and thinks Greenlanders will want to partner with the US despite opinion polls showing widespread opposition from the local population to US governance.

WTAF. He’s going to do a Putin!

[Bostonhibby]

So it’s back to Greenland for Trump and co today. Dropping hints that Russia and China are interested in Greenland. Planting the seed in their supporters sparse brains and those hanging on their every single word.

Vance today :

Greenland is extremely vulnerable right now and thinks Greenlanders will want to partner with the US despite opinion polls showing widespread opposition from the local population to US governance.

WTAF. He’s going to do a Putin!Pray for Greenland, all those non specific problems the orange one and his Dr Evil sidekick are generalizing about that contented greenlanders never knew existed a few months ago.

Only the U S Nazi party can save them

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[Kato]

As Hibs fans I reckon we should be against the threats made against a place called Greenland.

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