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CropleyWasGod
09-01-2021, 10:47 PM
The State Department has lifted restrictions on contact with Taiwan.
That's really gonna piss off the Chinese. 😁 Probably won't be the last of the F-youse from Trump over the next week.
SHODAN
09-01-2021, 11:02 PM
Don't believe the hype in the press the POTUS can't single handed luanch a nuclear attack. It has always required two people. Imho Biden just as like to in any case and I certainly don't trust Pelosi.
It's unfair to criticise Rangers, what about Celtic?
JimBHibees
10-01-2021, 08:16 AM
All very interesting opinions in this thread.
My main thought is why did the police etc allow this demonstration such close and easy access to the buildings themselves ?
I don't want to go into collusion theories; that set of buildings must surely be easy to defend. What did not happen and why.
That is the biggest question of all.
Bristolhibby
10-01-2021, 08:33 AM
All very interesting opinions in this thread.
My main thought is why did the police etc allow this demonstration such close and easy access to the buildings themselves ?
I don't want to go into collusion theories; that set of buildings must surely be easy to defend. What did not happen and why.
You don’t want to talk about collusion but it could well be.
A mix of passive and subconscious. Not being funny but we have clear evidence that Police find it easier to brutalise people of colour and people who’s views they don’t agree with.
Washington DC’s unique governance makes swift reaction to unrest difficult. Federal v surrounding states (Virginia and Maryland) law i for cement and National Guard.
Then there’s the hesitation that comes from the fact the PRESIDENT egged these people on.
All adds to a much softer approach.
Compare the direct order that Trump gave to crack skulls so he could pose with a Bible (WTF was that BTW. I’m convinced the Can’t has never read it and doesn’t have the attention span to try).
Night and day.
J
Bristolhibby
10-01-2021, 08:35 AM
You are correct in all the above.
However, under the circumstances, I think there's a very good chance that the military would deduce that the president was unstable and resist his demands until he was Amendment 25'd.
I would hope...
All their training is to assume not. As said, hesitation cannot come into things like the deterrent.
J
Hibbyradge
10-01-2021, 09:05 AM
All their training is to assume not. As said, hesitation cannot come into things like the deterrent.
J
Hopefully we'll never find out, but despite their training, the military are human beings and will be well aware of what's going on in and around the Whitehouse.
If it was a retaliatory strike, I imagine they would act first then ask questions, but we're talking about a brand new initiative, never previously discussed against a target which is posing no imminent threat.
They'll also know that Pelosi has asked for the codes to be kept away from Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if the President elect didn't weigh in. He may already have done so privately.
PS I won that hypothetical argument... BY A LOT!
Ozyhibby
10-01-2021, 09:39 AM
All their training is to assume not. As said, hesitation cannot come into things like the deterrent.
J
The military have lawyers watching their every move as well though. They won’t do it without question.
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ACLeith
10-01-2021, 12:20 PM
Compare the direct order that Trump gave to crack skulls so he could pose with a Bible (WTF was that BTW. I’m convinced the Can’t has never read it and doesn’t have the attention span to try).
J
Biden’s response to that stunt was to suggest that rather than hold the Bible (upside down) as a weapon he would have been better opening it and having a read.
He has been asked questions about the content that confirms he has almost certainly never read it, so you are spot on BH.
Radium
10-01-2021, 03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=21
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Hibbyradge
10-01-2021, 04:48 PM
https://twitter.com/schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=21
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Powerful stuff from a high profile and highly popular republican.
Jones28
10-01-2021, 05:21 PM
https://twitter.com/schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=21
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That’s gave me chills man. He’s a great speaker, some of his stuff is on YouTube and is very compelling.
“You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets” is a personal favourite.
matty_f
10-01-2021, 05:24 PM
That’s gave me chills man. He’s a great speaker, some of his stuff is on YouTube and is very compelling.
“You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets” is a personal favourite.
I loved that halfway through it he whaps out a sword.
greenlex
10-01-2021, 05:27 PM
I loved that halfway through it he whaps out a sword.
It started well but I think it became a bit contrived theatrical and all too Hollywood at the death. Powerful enough tho.
Hibbyradge
10-01-2021, 06:41 PM
It started well but I think it became a bit contrived theatrical and all too Hollywood at the death. Powerful enough tho.
I thought it was well weighted and got the balance right. Conan's sword will have pleased Arnie fans as that was his first film and the point he made was strong.
The halfwits in Qanon etc will understand the message given that they respect weaponry so much! We'll, maybe not, but overall the video didn't miss anyone and it will give support to other republicans who were sickened by what happened.
In a "I like watching car crashes" sort of way, I almost wish the fascist still had his Twitter account so I could enjoy the rage.
Mon Dieu4
10-01-2021, 08:28 PM
I thought it was well weighted and got the balance right. Conan's sword will have pleased Arnie fans as that was his first film and the point he made was strong.
The halfwits in Qanon etc will understand the message given that they respect weaponry so much! We'll, maybe not, but overall the video didn't miss anyone and it will give support to other republicans who were sickened by what happened.
In a "I like watching car crashes" sort of way, I almost wish the fascist still had his Twitter account so I could enjoy the rage.
Know what you mean, I'm half considering registering on parler and gab to see what all the lunatics are up to
Radium
10-01-2021, 09:46 PM
https://twitter.com/rayredacted/status/1348388601118273537?s=21
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Ozyhibby
10-01-2021, 10:52 PM
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G B Young
10-01-2021, 11:20 PM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
Bangkok Hibby
10-01-2021, 11:37 PM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
Got about 2/3 through it then wanted to strangle her so much I had to stop watching.
I've been doing a fair amount of flicking between CNN and Fox over the last couple of weeks. Just incredible how polarised opinion is in that crazy messed up country.
Hibrandenburg
10-01-2021, 11:37 PM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
I was watching it too. Just another of many nutcases surrounding Trump.
Callum_62
10-01-2021, 11:47 PM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
4.30 onwards she got even more crazy (which I didnt think was possible)
EDIT - what a way to finish too :greengrin
cabbageandribs1875
11-01-2021, 03:41 AM
have they arrested richard branson yet...
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ronaldo7
11-01-2021, 08:06 AM
have they arrested richard branson yet...
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They had him and the guy who sat in pelosi's chair in orange jump suits yesterday. Looking a bit glum I may add.
Onceinawhile
11-01-2021, 08:12 AM
https://twitter.com/rayredacted/status/1348388601118273537?s=21
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Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.
Lendo
11-01-2021, 08:49 AM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
Look at her bookshelf in the bottom right corner of the screen.
lucky
11-01-2021, 09:38 AM
She’s simply bonkers. Not a fan of Bolton but he was taking the piss as he knew she was a nutter
Hibbyradge
11-01-2021, 09:56 AM
That's Parler gone too.
Ronniekirk
11-01-2021, 10:15 AM
That's Parler gone too.
Hunting down all the sites that conspiracy theorists and anti vaccine anti lockdown etc use
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cabbageandribs1875
11-01-2021, 10:17 AM
They had him and the guy who sat in pelosi's chair in orange jump suits yesterday. Looking a bit glum I may add.
turns out it wasn't Branson after all.........it was this dude
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who then did this...
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:)
hibsbollah
11-01-2021, 10:37 AM
turns out it wasn't Branson after all.........it was this dude
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who then did this...
24220
:)
I want that. Would add gravitas to a zoom call, no doubt.
Keith_M
11-01-2021, 12:04 PM
I want that. Would add gravitas to a zoom call, no doubt.
You're too late, I bought it about half an hour ago.
I've got a Town Hall meeting next week that includes some Management in New Jersey, so I hope it arrives in time.
wookie70
11-01-2021, 12:41 PM
Happened to be watching Sky when this was aired live the other day. If you've got a few minutes to spare it's worth watching from start to finish. It's simply great TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPTziFY9YQ
It should have been - Joining us from Jupiter. She is certainly not of this planet.
Hibrandenburg
11-01-2021, 01:01 PM
It should have been - Joining us from Jupiter. She is certainly not of this planet.
You have to ask yourself how nutters like this are allowed or capable of becoming lawyers.
Future17
11-01-2021, 01:54 PM
You have to ask yourself how nutters like this are allowed or capable of becoming lawyers.
Right-wing nutcases accused of crimes have to have the option of instructing right-wing nutcases to defend them. Otherwise it would just be another conspiracy cog in the corrupt machine.
G B Young
11-01-2021, 02:20 PM
4.30 onwards she got even more crazy (which I didnt think was possible)
EDIT - what a way to finish too :greengrin
I was open mouthed by the end. I'm not sure the BBC would air such an interview so credit to Sky for providing a startling illustration of how deep the roots of 'Trumpism' go.
Ozyhibby
11-01-2021, 02:22 PM
Some very big companies withdrawn finance to the Republican Party. If that keeps up then they may move against Trump this week. Money talks.
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Mon Dieu4
11-01-2021, 02:30 PM
Some very big companies withdrawn finance to the Republican Party. If that keeps up then they may move against Trump this week. Money talks.
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PR stunts, they were all happy to give money when they were building walls, mocking disabled people etc, aye ultimately it's a good thing but hope people aren't fooled by it all
ballengeich
11-01-2021, 03:01 PM
You're too late, I bought it about half an hour ago.
I've got a Town Hall meeting next week that includes some Management in New Jersey, so I hope it arrives in time.
Well it's not coming from Europe so the French customs can't delay it.
Hibernia&Alba
11-01-2021, 03:08 PM
That's Parler gone too.
Has it shut down?
RyeSloan
11-01-2021, 03:19 PM
Has it shut down?
Yes and No.
Amazon booted it off it servers last night so effectively it’s been disappeared even if you have the app already installed.
They might try and find a new hosting service to make a come back but that will take a while.
Northernhibee
11-01-2021, 03:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWeenH7VoYU
Further proof if required that those who stormed the Capitol are terrorists.
A BLM protest gets the national guard, terrorists storming a cornerstone of American democracy doesn't.
Hibernia&Alba
11-01-2021, 03:40 PM
Yes and No.
Amazon booted it off it servers last night so effectively it’s been disappeared even if you have the app already installed.
They might try and find a new hosting service to make a come back but that will take a while.
Obviously, I've never seen Parler (I'm not even on Twitter) and don't know what goes on there, but I think it should only be de-platformed if there has been incitement to violence.
Hibbyradge
11-01-2021, 03:50 PM
PR stunts, they were all happy to give money when they were building walls, mocking disabled people etc, aye ultimately it's a good thing but hope people aren't fooled by it all
What would they need to do to convince you that they genuinely abhor Trump's culpability in the insurrection?
Ozyhibby
11-01-2021, 04:05 PM
What would they need to do to convince you that they genuinely abhor Trump's culpability in the insurrection?
Convict him in the senate?
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AltheHibby
11-01-2021, 04:08 PM
Obviously, I've never seen Parler (I'm not even on Twitter) and don't know what goes on there, but I think it should only be de-platformed if there has been incitement to violence.
From what I hear it's finding a post that ISN'T inviting violence that's the trick.
(Slight exaggeration, but with all those evangelical nutjob on there it's batsh*t crazy)
Hibbyradge
11-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Convict him in the senate?
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Can big companies do that?
Mon Dieu4
11-01-2021, 04:21 PM
What would they need to do to convince you that they genuinely abhor Trump's culpability in the insurrection?
I'm sure they do, but their donations helped facilitate it in the first place
G B Young
11-01-2021, 04:45 PM
PR stunts, they were all happy to give money when they were building walls, mocking disabled people etc, aye ultimately it's a good thing but hope people aren't fooled by it all
Spot on. The hypocrisy at heightened times like these is distasteful. At the other end of the spectrum, few were fooled by the sudden celebrity clamour to be seen to be the most 'right on' at the height of the BLM protests.
This attempt to remove Trump from office a few days before his tenure comes to an end also smacks of being PR led, bearing in mind it has no chance of success. The Democrats should be careful what they wish for or they'll end up making a martyr out of him. Just let him leave the White House and doubtless (along with a good number of the 75 million or so who voted for him) adopt the mantle of being 'the real president in exile'. Even in the unlikely event he were to run again in 2024 as a Ross Perot type candidate he'd only split the Republican vote and ensure a Democrat win.
AltheHibby
11-01-2021, 05:04 PM
Look at her bookshelf in the bottom right corner of the screen.
What are you referring to? I can't make anything on my phone.
RyeSloan
11-01-2021, 05:48 PM
Obviously, I've never seen Parler (I'm not even on Twitter) and don't know what goes on there, but I think it should only be de-platformed if there has been incitement to violence.
Amazon seemed to suddenly think that their moderation wasn’t strong enough.
Never seen it myself either but I can only assume this is nothing new for that app and Amazon only found their delete button through the fact that the spotlight was now shining on them and their hosting of it after it had been binned from the app stores.
Hibrandenburg
11-01-2021, 06:50 PM
Spot on. The hypocrisy at heightened times like these is distasteful. At the other end of the spectrum, few were fooled by the sudden celebrity clamour to be seen to be the most 'right on' at the height of the BLM protests.
This attempt to impeach Trump a few days before his tenure comes to an end also smacks of being PR led, bearing in mind it has no chance of success. The Democrats should be careful what they wish for or they'll end up making a martyr out of him. Just let him leave the White House and doubtless (along with a good number of the 75 million or so who voted for him) adopt the mantle of being 'the real president in exile'. Even in the unlikely event he were to run again in 2024 as a Ross Perot type candidate he'd only split the Republican vote and ensure a Democrat win.
He definitely needs punishing. If history has taught us anything, then it's that narcissists and fascists only understand strength and consequences. Any attempt at appeasement or clemency will only be interpreted as weakness.
G B Young
11-01-2021, 07:17 PM
He definitely needs punishing. If history has taught us anything, then it's that narcissists and fascists only understand strength and consequences. Any attempt at appeasement or clemency will only be interpreted as weakness.
Yes, I agree. I just get the impression that the Democrats are approaching this as a more of an opportunity to showboat rather than punishing him in any way that will matter to somebody of Trump's mentality.
I also think Germany and France have a point when calling into question the way the social media giants have gone about things:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/merkel-sees-closing-trump-s-social-media-accounts-problematic
Ozyhibby
12-01-2021, 02:26 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-12/trump-s-long-favored-banks-pull-back-amid-fallout-from-d-c-riot?__twitter_impression=true
More power slipping away from him. Trump org has only months to go now I think.
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Keith_M
12-01-2021, 03:08 PM
This is more a point on US Politics in general, but I was just reading the flowery tributes to some guy called Sheldon Adelson, that just passed away aged 87, from various Republicans like George W Bush, Mitch McConnell and Trump Jr.
Apparently he was "A Great American", "A Great Patriot", etc.
This made me curious as to who he was and why they loved him so much and it turns out he was a massive donor to The Republican Party.
Apparently, paying US Politicians to influence their policies makes somebody "A Great American" and "A Great Patriot".
I would actually have called that Bribery of People in Public Office, but what do I know...
:rolleyes:
p.s. Incidentally, he has also been described by the same people as "A Friend of Israel" and that "The US-Israel relationship was stronger because of him", but that's a subject fraught with pitfalls and anybody discussing it is in danger of being labelled an Anti-Semite... so I'm not going there ;-)
BroxburnHibee
12-01-2021, 07:24 PM
Sounds like he's learnt his lesson.....
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1349087887590043649?s=20
Lendo
12-01-2021, 08:08 PM
This is more a point on US Politics in general, but I was just reading the flowery tributes to some guy called Sheldon Adelson, that just passed away aged 87, from various Republicans like George W Bush, Mitch McConnell and Trump Jr.
Apparently he was "A Great American", "A Great Patriot", etc.
This made me curious as to who he was and why they loved him so much and it turns out he was a massive donor to The Republican Party.
Apparently, paying US Politicians to influence their policies makes somebody "A Great American" and "A Great Patriot".
I would actually have called that Bribery of People in Public Office, but what do I know...
:rolleyes:
p.s. Incidentally, he has also been described by the same people as "A Friend of Israel" and that "The US-Israel relationship was stronger because of him", but that's a subject fraught with pitfalls and anybody discussing it is in danger of being labelled an Anti-Semite... so I'm not going there ;-)
This is why America isn’t the great bastion of democracy that all countries strive to emulate. Their politicians (especially Republicans) are bought and paid for my special interest groups (NRA) or whole industries (Pharmaceuticals/Cigs/Defence).
They will never represent the people when money is changing hands.
This is why America isn’t the great bastion of democracy that all countries strive to emulate. Their politicians (especially Republicans) are bought and paid for my special interest groups (NRA) or whole industries (Pharmaceuticals/Cigs/Defence).
They will never represent the people when money is changing hands.
We have a similar problem with the UK government and specifically the Tories.
marinello59
12-01-2021, 10:05 PM
It looks like Mitch McConnell will vote in favour of impeachment. That makes it much more likely to happen.
Ozyhibby
12-01-2021, 10:15 PM
It looks like Mitch McConnell will vote in favour of impeachment. That makes it much more likely to happen.
As soon as the donors started backing away, the republicans started looking for ways to get rid of Trump.
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BroxburnHibee
12-01-2021, 10:22 PM
It looks like Mitch McConnell will vote in favour of impeachment. That makes it much more likely to happen.
I've been reading about this but I'll still be surprised to see it happen.
AltheHibby
12-01-2021, 11:02 PM
I've been reading about this but I'll still be surprised to see it happen.
5 hours ago I would have said the same. Not now. I think their need to dump tangoman, well, trumps everything.
cabbageandribs1875
13-01-2021, 12:02 AM
I want that. Would add gravitas to a zoom call, no doubt.
i don't trust the free shipping claim :)
cabbageandribs1875
13-01-2021, 12:06 AM
this is the tw@t the FBI are looking for that tossed the extinguisher that killed the cop
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hope his Liberty is coming to an end very soon
Hibrandenburg
13-01-2021, 09:19 AM
I've been reading about this but I'll still be surprised to see it happen.
America needs to punish Trump and they know it. If he goes scott free, then it leaves the door wide open for the next nutcase to endanger their Holy democracy. Trump is going down and it's not going to be pretty.
Jones28
13-01-2021, 09:39 AM
Impeachment expected today :aok:
BroxburnHibee
13-01-2021, 10:42 AM
Impeachment expected today :aok:
They need a majority in the house which they have but they need 17 republicans to switch in the senate. Not clear if that's likely yet.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2021, 12:45 PM
They need a majority in the house which they have but they need 17 republicans to switch in the senate. Not clear if that's likely yet.
It won't happen until after Trump leaves do number crunching just now is fairly meaningless.
However, given that the GOP senators won't actually be removing their president, and the fact that many of them won't want Trump to run in 2024, there's a chance that the impeachment will be accepted by the Senate.
He's going to be there for another week though. I wonder what else can happen in that time...
Hibs Class
13-01-2021, 01:32 PM
It won't happen until after Trump leaves do number crunching just now is fairly meaningless.
However, given that the GOP senators won't actually be removing their president, and the fact that many of them won't want Trump to run in 2024, there's a chance that the impeachment will be accepted by the Senate.
He's going to be there for another week though. I wonder what else can happen in that time...
I'm sure he'll still have a bunch of pardons to hand out, and maybe some more Presidential medals of freedom to others as deserving as Jim Jordan
Ozyhibby
13-01-2021, 04:02 PM
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/b792f03cd8b417b7da91b43ffbb25b4c.jpg
This is why there is a chance the republicans in senate may turn on Trump. Nothing to do with doing the right thing. All about the dollars.
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Hibbyradge
13-01-2021, 05:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/48dea04c092c4fb3af424a24d5914955.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/b792f03cd8b417b7da91b43ffbb25b4c.jpg
This is why there is a chance the republicans in senate may turn on Trump. Nothing to do with doing the right thing. All about the dollars.
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Yes, I meant to mention that's the main reason they don't want him. No doubt it's the most compelling.
wookie70
13-01-2021, 06:15 PM
Large numbers relatively of federal death sentences carried out. Looks like he is wielding whatever power he has left and has a lust for blood. That power should be removed from him immediately
Tobias Funke
13-01-2021, 07:31 PM
I'm sure he'll still have a bunch of pardons to hand out, and maybe some more Presidential medals of freedom to others as deserving as Jim Jordan
Gym Jordan, an utter disgrace of a human being. The mans beyond contempt.
DaveF
13-01-2021, 07:33 PM
That speaker must be totally fed up saying the same thing hundreds of times. Thank God it's almost over.
greenlex
13-01-2021, 07:36 PM
There’s more us troops in Washington right now than the the whole of Afghanistan and Iraq combined.
Hibby70
13-01-2021, 07:42 PM
Hoyer is a great speaker.
DaveF
13-01-2021, 07:46 PM
Hoyer is a great speaker.
I thought he only had a minute? He's been going for bloody ages.
Hibby70
13-01-2021, 07:47 PM
I thought he only had a minute? He's been going for bloody ages.
I think it's now moved on from that timed thing.
DaveF
13-01-2021, 07:48 PM
I think it's now moved on from that timed thing.
Must have. I was half expecting a Muppet style haul off the stage 😁
Hibby70
13-01-2021, 07:52 PM
Must have. I was half expecting a Muppet style haul off the stage 😁
Thought he was going to start singing there
Hibernia&Alba
13-01-2021, 08:25 PM
That's Donnie impeached for a second time, the James Hunt. First time in American history. Ten Republicans have voted in favour of impeachment. :aok:
Hibernia&Alba
13-01-2021, 08:38 PM
Donnie's record:
Impeached twice - the only president to endure that.
Lost the popular vote in both presidential elections.
Lost control of the House of Representatives in 2018.
Lost Control of the senate in 2020.
One term president.
"You'll get so tired of winning", said Trump. :greengrin
Pretty Boy
13-01-2021, 08:57 PM
Lock him up
Lock him up
Lock him up
Lock him up
Killiehibbie
13-01-2021, 09:27 PM
Lock him up
Lock him up
Lock him up
Lock him up
Sentence could be worse than that
wookie70
13-01-2021, 09:37 PM
Probably old news but banks start to call in debts https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump
He certainly has a fair bit of debt (https://www.ft.com/content/448c69a6-18f3-4fa0-a3ad-50e8ce553e1e)and I really hope he loses the two Scottish Golf Courses. they are a stain on this country particularly the one in Aberdeen which should never got planning permission as his promises should have been easily seen as lies.
Hibrandenburg
13-01-2021, 10:03 PM
I was watching the process of impeachment and heard a few stoaters from Republicans, "I won't vote for impeachment because it means in the future, that every member of this house will have what he says here scrutinised" and "If I vote for impeachment my life would be in danger". I also noticed that for some reason Republicans can't seem to find masks that fit, they were constantly falling down.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2021, 10:03 PM
So, what will the Senate do? We can take for granted that the Dems will uphold the impeachment, but what the Republicans will do is difficult to predict.
If the Senate "lets him off", he will be able to run in 2024 whether as the GOP candidate, or as an independent. Neither possibility will sit easily with the more moderate in the party, but the former must be terrifying. However they can't be confident that he wouldn't get the nomination so supporting the impeachment might be attractive to them. On the other hand, if they reckon that he's now too toxic to run even independently, they might decide that impeachment wouldn't achieve anything.
Also,what damage can he really do to the GOP as an independent? The donations from his followers will dry up and no credible organisations will back him so he'd have to fund a campaign with his own, also dwindling and under threat, resources.
It'll be a fascinating albeit very depressing, few weeks.
heretoday
14-01-2021, 01:46 AM
He's had it.
Barney McGrew
14-01-2021, 02:30 AM
CNN suggesting he’s told his team not to pay Rudy Giuliani’s legal fees
Hibs Class
14-01-2021, 06:25 AM
CNN suggesting he’s told his team not to pay Rudy Giuliani’s legal fees
Not paying suppliers is his standard business model. It’s what smart people do.
marinello59
14-01-2021, 06:30 AM
CNN suggesting he’s told his team not to pay Rudy Giuliani’s legal fees
$20000 a day. I’m guessing he will see none of it.
DaveF
14-01-2021, 07:02 AM
Reading an article on the BBC, I see that a "Republican congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, announced she would file articles of impeachment against Mr Biden, accusing him of abuse of power, the day after his inauguration"
I would imagine this will get no traction but it just highlights how utterly crazy some of these people are.
Ozyhibby
14-01-2021, 07:10 AM
Reading an article on the BBC, I see that a "Republican congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, announced she would file articles of impeachment against Mr Biden, accusing him of abuse of power, the day after his inauguration"
I would imagine this will get no traction but it just highlights how utterly crazy some of these people are.
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1349456937080008704?s=12
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hibsbollah
14-01-2021, 08:15 AM
Reading an article on the BBC, I see that a "Republican congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, announced she would file articles of impeachment against Mr Biden, accusing him of abuse of power, the day after his inauguration"
I would imagine this will get no traction but it just highlights how utterly crazy some of these people are.
She’s the Qanon lady. She believes that a shadowy group involving Hilary Clinton and George Soros runs a paedophile ring out of a pizza joint in Washington DC. That’s what you’re dealing with, total certifiable fantasists.
DaveF
14-01-2021, 08:54 AM
Right, ta. She's a whole lot crazier than I assumed.
Jones28
14-01-2021, 09:06 AM
Reading an article on the BBC, I see that a "Republican congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, announced she would file articles of impeachment against Mr Biden, accusing him of abuse of power, the day after his inauguration"
I would imagine this will get no traction but it just highlights how utterly crazy some of these people are.
She's a congresswomen?! How?!
Hiber-nation
14-01-2021, 09:09 AM
She’s the Qanon lady. .
You make it sound like she's arrived at your door with a make up catalogue for your wife :greengrin
Jones28
14-01-2021, 09:11 AM
You make it sound like she's arrived at your door with a make up catalogue for your wife :greengrin
We mustn't make assumptions its for Bollahs wife, not in this day and age :greengrin
hibsbollah
14-01-2021, 09:17 AM
She's a congresswomen?! How?!
It is indeed bonkers that an actual Qanon follower can get elected to the House of Representatives. We were discussing her last year on here before she won the vote. But what she’s saying in those Twitter clips, ‘it’s not white people that’s the problem for blacks, it’s the gangs, they own the black people, they all deal drugs’ that’s an opinion shared by a lot of white people, certainly in the suburbs of a city like Atlanta Georgia, so it’s not really that surprising that she won. They won’t even think those views are particularly racist.
hibsbollah
14-01-2021, 09:19 AM
We mustn't make assumptions its for Bollahs wife, not in this day and age :greengrin
Yes there is a mrs bollah and she does still sometimes wear makeup:faf:
RyeSloan
14-01-2021, 10:15 AM
Trump will rue the day he charged his followers up to the Capitol that much is clear.
Swathes of businesses and banks cutting ties with his organisation is going to hurt him very badly.
It was never clear if his businesses actually made any money but with these daily set backs it would be no surprise to see it fold like a pack of cards. The most painful will be his banking partners pulling out. The forever rolling of debt seemed to be his operational lifeline and with that removed on top of the vast contracts being cancelled its hard to see how it survives.
As for him running again...I very much doubt that. The money needed is just not going to be there, no matter how many online campaigns he runs.
Bostonhibby
14-01-2021, 10:20 AM
She’s the Qanon lady. She believes that a shadowy group involving Hilary Clinton and George Soros runs a paedophile ring out of a pizza joint in Washington DC. That’s what you’re dealing with, total certifiable fantasists.I think she's making it up, nearly fooled me but how does she even know if George Soros likes pizza?
Needs to try harder.
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Northernhibee
14-01-2021, 10:23 AM
CNN suggesting he’s told his team not to pay Rudy Giuliani’s legal fees
Deary me what a shame how will the shirt tucker inner cope.
Keith_M
14-01-2021, 11:02 AM
I think she's making it up, nearly fooled me but how does she even know if George Soros likes pizza?
Needs to try harder.
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Pizza Hut is the biggest Pizza chain in the US
Pizza Hut is owned by 'Yum! brands'
Soros' Hedge Fund owns about 20% of the shares in 'Yum! brands'
Coincidence? I think not!
Bostonhibby
14-01-2021, 11:34 AM
Pizza Hut is the biggest Pizza chain in the US
Pizza Hut is owned by 'Yum! brands'
Soros' Hedge Fund owns about 20% of the shares in 'Yum! brands'
Coincidence? I think not!So you're telling me that a significant proportion of the American electorate have had their brains distorted by Pizza dough directly funded by George Soros? Or maybe even replaced by it?
I think the congresswoman could be onto something here after all because Hillary Clinton knows how to make pizzas.
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ACLeith
14-01-2021, 11:43 AM
So you're telling me that a significant proportion of the American electorate have had their brains distorted by Pizza dough directly funded by George Soros? Or maybe even replaced by it?
I think the congresswoman could be onto something here after all because Hillary Clinton knows how to make pizzas.
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That’s it for me. I’m never going near La Favorita in Leith Walk again🍕
Jones28
14-01-2021, 11:51 AM
That’s it for me. I’m never going near La Favorita in Leith Walk again🍕
They'll be ok, it's just the big pizza chains that fund and run paedophile rings apparently.
Just typing that out felt bonkers.
ACLeith
14-01-2021, 12:07 PM
They'll be ok, it's just the big pizza chains that fund and run paedophile rings apparently.
Just typing that out felt bonkers.
You’ve not convinced me you just can’t be too careful these days 😱
Bostonhibby
14-01-2021, 12:13 PM
That’s it for me. I’m never going near La Favorita in Leith Walk again[emoji487]No danger, Vittorias and la Favorita are our favourites so I'm calling it out right now that the George Soros / Hillary Clinton pizza dough based conspiracy ( as exclusively revealed by the dough brained American congresswoman called Qanon), cannot enter your head through your ear hole anywhere other than through US branches of Pizza Hut.
As a safeguard for any US citizens looking in who fancies pizza, wearing an upturned colander with a bent coat hanger sticking out the top should keep George and Hillary at bay.
Please remember to put it on your head though.
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Peevemor
14-01-2021, 02:12 PM
Made me laugh.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/3475f1b6e8afc008f5be9fb1e22bd6b3.jpg
Jonnyboy
14-01-2021, 02:14 PM
Made me laugh.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/3475f1b6e8afc008f5be9fb1e22bd6b3.jpg
😂😂
wookie70
14-01-2021, 02:52 PM
No danger, Vittorias and la Favorita are our favourites so I'm calling it out right now that the George Soros / Hillary Clinton pizza dough based conspiracy ( as exclusively revealed by the dough brained American congresswoman called Qanon), cannot enter your head through your ear hole anywhere other than through US branches of Pizza Hut.
As a safeguard for any US citizens looking in who fancies pizza, wearing an upturned colander with a bent coat hanger sticking out the top should keep George and Hillary at bay.
Please remember to put it on your head though.
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At least you only have to worry about right wing loonies in American Pizza Huts we have to be on teh look out for frisky Royal Family members with a liking for bairns. The world really has went mad when complete fruitcakes are in large numbers of important positions. This one sounds like a US version of Priti Patel who is completely certifiable and comes over as being thick as mince yet has risen to one of the most senior positions in government with her only qualities being a loving for Margaret Thatcher and being evil. Two "qualities" which seem to always go hand in hand.
Bostonhibby
14-01-2021, 02:54 PM
Made me laugh.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/3475f1b6e8afc008f5be9fb1e22bd6b3.jpg[emoji23][emoji23]
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marinello59
14-01-2021, 02:57 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Trump, now there's a campaign been started to remove his scene from Home Alone 2. :greengrin
Hibbyradge
14-01-2021, 03:08 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Trump, now there's a campaign been started to remove his scene from Home Alone 2. :greengrin
It's a serious campaign. Macaulay Caulkin has put his weight behind it too.
Petty? Quite probably, but it would be funny.
Hibs Class
14-01-2021, 04:21 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Trump, now there's a campaign been started to remove his scene from Home Alone 2. :greengrin
According to IMDB trivia he should never have been in it in the first place: Chris Columbus said in an interview in Nov. 2020 that Donald Trump "bullied" his way into his cameo by making it part of the deal to shoot scenes in the lobby of the Plaza Hotel, which Trump owned. Columbus wasn't happy about it, but when they screened the movie for the first time, the audience cheered when Trump showed up on-screen, so Columbus felt better about it.
Keith_M
14-01-2021, 04:38 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Trump, now there's a campaign been started to remove his scene from Home Alone 2. :greengrin
Can you remember the fuss he made when the Canadians did just that?
I honestly thought he was going to ask the US Army to make up invasion plans.
CropleyWasGod
14-01-2021, 05:27 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Trump, now there's a campaign been started to remove his scene from Home Alone 2. :greengrin
It was a good quiz question TBF.
The replacement question "who is the only President to have had a scene cut from a movie?" doesn't really work the same.
Hibby70
14-01-2021, 06:10 PM
It was a good quiz question TBF.
The replacement question "who is the only President to have had a scene cut from a movie?" doesn't really work the same.
Ronald Reagan's love scene in Bedtime for Bonzo didn't meet the censors approval I believe.
Northernhibee
14-01-2021, 06:13 PM
It was a good quiz question TBF.
The replacement question "who is the only President to have had a scene cut from a movie?" doesn't really work the same.
"Who is the only president to have received a Stone Cold Stunner from wrestler "Stone Cold" Steve Austin?" works well.
CropleyWasGod
14-01-2021, 06:28 PM
Ronald Reagan's love scene in Bedtime for Bonzo didn't meet the censors approval I believe.
:greengrin
I just KNEW there'd be one.
Jones28
15-01-2021, 12:09 PM
It's the worst part of my favourite Christmas film
One Day Soon
15-01-2021, 07:47 PM
It's a serious campaign. Macaulay Caulkin has put his weight behind it too.
Petty? Quite probably, but it would be funny.
Not quite as funny as a) losing all the golf stuff and b) unintentionally destroying his own business empire on his way out of the building. There really is a God.
hibsbollah
15-01-2021, 08:28 PM
Made me laugh.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/3475f1b6e8afc008f5be9fb1e22bd6b3.jpg
:top marks
Ozyhibby
16-01-2021, 01:06 AM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/01/donald-trump-after-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true
Trouble ahead.
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Lendo
16-01-2021, 11:46 AM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/01/donald-trump-after-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true
Trouble ahead.
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I’m sure there will be no end of countries (Russia, China, Saudi Arabia) queuing up to bail him out in exchange for some top-secret Presidential information.
wookie70
16-01-2021, 12:51 PM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/01/donald-trump-after-presidency.html?__twitter_impression=true
Trouble ahead.
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That cheered me up barring the mention of him walking naked. Not the most pleasant of metaphors. How good would it be if he served time in jail. I'd stick him in the wing housing a majority of Mexican inmates
Hibernia&Alba
16-01-2021, 05:09 PM
Since Trump was inaugurated The Washington Post has been running a fact checker, keeping a running tally of the lies he told in office. Well, with just a few days left of Trump's presidency, he has gone past THIRTY THOUSAND lies. That must take some doing.
BroxburnHibee
16-01-2021, 06:04 PM
Trumps in a hurry....
24247
wookie70
16-01-2021, 06:42 PM
Since Trump was inaugurated The Washington Post has been running a fact checker, keeping a running tally of the lies he told in office. Well, with just a few days left of Trump's presidency, he has gone past THIRTY THOUSAND lies. That must take some doing.
20 a day give or take. Surprised it isn't more
marinello59
16-01-2021, 07:06 PM
Trumps in a hurry....
24247
The man is evil.
Jones28
16-01-2021, 09:59 PM
20 a day give or take. Surprised it isn't more
I don’t think I could tell twenty lies a day.
Hibrandenburg
16-01-2021, 10:27 PM
The man is evil.
That's why there can be no clemency for him.
wookie70
16-01-2021, 10:34 PM
I don’t think I could tell twenty lies a day. That is why you are not president
Hibbyradge
16-01-2021, 10:49 PM
Some of the terrorists who smashed their way into the Capitol are begging Trump to pardon them.
cabbageandribs1875
16-01-2021, 10:58 PM
Washington: man arrested with fake inaugural ID and loaded gun | Biden inauguration | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/washington-man-arrest-fake-inaugural-id-loaded-gun)
Officers in Washington DC arrested a Virginia man who tried to pass through a Capitol police checkpoint carrying fake inaugural credentials, a loaded handgun and more than 500 rounds of ammunition.
The man, identified in court papers as Wesley Allen Beeler, was driving a pickup truck with several firearm-related bumper stickers, including one that read: “If they come for your guns Give ‘Em your bullets first,” the papers said.
Tobias Funke
17-01-2021, 01:49 AM
The irony in Trump allegedly telling Pence he’d be a pussy if he didn’t overturn the election results. Coming from one of the biggest cowards on the planet.
Washington: man arrested with fake inaugural ID and loaded gun | Biden inauguration | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/washington-man-arrest-fake-inaugural-id-loaded-gun)
Officers in Washington DC arrested a Virginia man who tried to pass through a Capitol police checkpoint carrying fake inaugural credentials, a loaded handgun and more than 500 rounds of ammunition.
The man, identified in court papers as Wesley Allen Beeler, was driving a pickup truck with several firearm-related bumper stickers, including one that read: “If they come for your guns Give ‘Em your bullets first,” the papers said.
They should cancel the inauguration ceremony and complete the formalities behind closed doors at a secret location, otherwise there's going to another riot with more deaths than there were at the Capitol.
cabbageandribs1875
17-01-2021, 05:51 AM
They should cancel the inauguration ceremony and complete the formalities behind closed doors at a secret location, otherwise there's going to another riot with more deaths than there were at the Capitol.
i get what you mean it's a fair point but imo that would be giving in to terrorists, if the authorities did that this time then it could become the norm.
Ozyhibby
17-01-2021, 08:20 AM
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1349732479440048135?s=21
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Northernhibee
17-01-2021, 10:26 AM
https://youtu.be/bbE8Wn8r5GU
One of the members of the attempted terrorist coup of the Capitol saying she deserved a pardon and doesn’t feel as if she has done wrong.
i get what you mean it's a fair point but imo that would be giving in to terrorists, if the authorities did that this time then it could become the norm.
I get your point too and agree that you can't give in to terrorists. The inauguration has the potential to be much worse than the 6th was. I see it is going to be a scaled down event and that there will be a massive security presence and Facebook are blocking the co-ordination of protest events from being organised through their platform.
Instead of one big gathering in Washington storming into the Capitol, what I'm guessing we will see are numerous incidents all round the country but indivudyall they'll be on a smaller scale than what happened at the Capitol. I expect the Trump followers will find another platform to use to coordinate but one that's less mainstream than Facebook.
Hibernia&Alba
17-01-2021, 12:16 PM
Since Trump was inaugurated The Washington Post has been running a fact checker, keeping a running tally of the lies he told in office. Well, with just a few days left of Trump's presidency, he has gone past THIRTY THOUSAND lies. That must take some doing.
https://youtu.be/NsQ2hX_noNw
Northernhibee
17-01-2021, 05:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1EqhB5Oem8
Unsurprising.
cabbageandribs1875
18-01-2021, 01:38 PM
the poisonous cretin apparently going to free up to 100 other *******s before he leaves, inc...
Donald Trump to 'issue 100 pardons before fleeing Washington DC at 8am Wednesday' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-to-issue-100-pardons-before-fleeing-washington-dc-at-8am-wednesday/ar-BB1cR6c3?ocid=msedgntp)
Among those he is set to free is shamed eye doctor Dr Salomon Melgen, who was jailed in 2018 for stealing $73m (£54m) from Medicare by ordering treatments for elderly patients who did not need them.
It is also suspected he could pardon rapper Lil Wayne, who is due to be sentenced this month on weapons charges.
Similarly he may order rapper Kodak Black, who is in jail for illegal weapons possession, to be free, according to reports in the US.
i hope the yanks do something about this to stop a PoS president still having the powers to do this, even after being impeached..again
Hibs Class
18-01-2021, 02:15 PM
the poisonous cretin apparently going to free up to 100 other *******s before he leaves, inc...
Donald Trump to 'issue 100 pardons before fleeing Washington DC at 8am Wednesday' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-to-issue-100-pardons-before-fleeing-washington-dc-at-8am-wednesday/ar-BB1cR6c3?ocid=msedgntp)
Among those he is set to free is shamed eye doctor Dr Salomon Melgen, who was jailed in 2018 for stealing $73m (£54m) from Medicare by ordering treatments for elderly patients who did not need them.
It is also suspected he could pardon rapper Lil Wayne, who is due to be sentenced this month on weapons charges.
Similarly he may order rapper Kodak Black, who is in jail for illegal weapons possession, to be free, according to reports in the US.
i hope the yanks do something about this to stop a PoS president still having the powers to do this, even after being impeached..again
I read similar on CNN earlier. No surprise that he'll be issuing pardons given the power he has to do so, but for Trump just another opportunity to play to his base. Speculation over whether he'll pardon Bannon, Assange or any of the Capitol rioters (or even himself / his family) but the part of the article pasted below was also interesting. (Article also noted that some of the lobbyists are paid thousands of dollars to do their lobbying).
"Trump is still receiving multiple streams of recommendations on pardons from those advisers who remain at the White House, as well as people outside the building who have been lobbying for months for themselves or their clients.
The expectation among allies is that Trump will issue pardons that he could benefit from post presidency.
"Everything is a transaction. He likes pardons because it is unilateral. And he likes doing favors for people he thinks will owe him," one source familiar with the matter said."
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 02:42 PM
the poisonous cretin apparently going to free up to 100 other *******s before he leaves, inc...
Donald Trump to 'issue 100 pardons before fleeing Washington DC at 8am Wednesday' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-to-issue-100-pardons-before-fleeing-washington-dc-at-8am-wednesday/ar-BB1cR6c3?ocid=msedgntp)
Among those he is set to free is shamed eye doctor Dr Salomon Melgen, who was jailed in 2018 for stealing $73m (£54m) from Medicare by ordering treatments for elderly patients who did not need them.
It is also suspected he could pardon rapper Lil Wayne, who is due to be sentenced this month on weapons charges.
Similarly he may order rapper Kodak Black, who is in jail for illegal weapons possession, to be free, according to reports in the US.
i hope the yanks do something about this to stop a PoS president still having the powers to do this, even after being impeached..again
What a messed up system that allows one person to pardon who they want. Shambles.
Hibby70
18-01-2021, 05:25 PM
USA - the land of the (set) free
Northernhibee
19-01-2021, 05:58 PM
Today his diary contained...nothing. Absolutely nothing. A spokeperson told a news channel that he'll be taking lots of calls and doing lots of duties. But he was diarised for nothing. Tomorrow he becomes the first living president to not attend his successors inauguration.
God knows how long it will take the US to recover from the last four and a bit years. He's a ****ing shambles and I hope he's left in a jail cell for the rest of his life.
Ozyhibby
19-01-2021, 06:01 PM
Today his diary contained...nothing. Absolutely nothing. A spokeperson told a news channel that he'll be taking lots of calls and doing lots of duties. But he was diarised for nothing. Tomorrow he becomes the first living president to not attend his successors inauguration.
God knows how long it will take the US to recover from the last four and a bit years. He's a ****ing shambles and I hope he's left in a jail cell for the rest of his life.
I doubt he’ll ever go to jail but he will likely spend the rest of his life dealing with lawyers. The Trump org won’t survive this.
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Hibrandenburg
19-01-2021, 06:21 PM
I doubt he’ll ever go to jail but he will likely spend the rest of his life dealing with lawyers. The Trump org won’t survive this.
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He has to go to jail, American democracy depends on it.
RyeSloan
19-01-2021, 07:33 PM
Today his diary contained...nothing. Absolutely nothing. A spokeperson told a news channel that he'll be taking lots of calls and doing lots of duties. But he was diarised for nothing. Tomorrow he becomes the first living president to not attend his successors inauguration.
God knows how long it will take the US to recover from the last four and a bit years. He's a ****ing shambles and I hope he's left in a jail cell for the rest of his life.
I read that he’s also not doing the customary hand over of the White House to the new incumbent.
Pathetic stuff.
EI255
19-01-2021, 09:24 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if one his own red capped banjo playin' supporters turned on him and 'accidentally' plugged him [emoji1787]
Certainly wouldn't be missed.
Moulin Yarns
19-01-2021, 09:37 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if one his own red capped banjo playin' supporters turned on him and 'accidentally' plugged him [emoji1787]
Certainly wouldn't be missed.
No it wouldn't. Do you want him to be martyred
One Day Soon
19-01-2021, 09:46 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if one his own red capped banjo playin' supporters turned on him and 'accidentally' plugged him [emoji1787]
Certainly wouldn't be missed.
Err, no.
One Day Soon
19-01-2021, 09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1EqhB5Oem8
Unsurprising.
Da.
AltheHibby
19-01-2021, 10:18 PM
I just watched the ceremony at the Lincoln Memorial. That was Presedential.
With all the personal pain Joe Biden has been through it would be too easy to be cynical, but somehow he has made it through and remains a decent man. If I had lost my wife and 2 children I would be broken, so has gets my respect for being a better man than me.
Northernhibee
20-01-2021, 06:07 AM
Dozens upon dozens of pardons on the last day including Steve Bannon.
Barney McGrew
20-01-2021, 06:10 AM
His list of pardons and commutations have been announced, and include Steve Bannon, Jared’s pal Ken Kurson and his fundraiser Elliot Broidy.
Corrupt to the end.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/20/donald-trump-pardons-steve-bannon-amid-last-acts-of-presidency-report
cabbageandribs1875
20-01-2021, 06:56 AM
so, has the tiger king joe exotic been pardoned ? his legal team have lined up a limo and helicopter for his expected release after serving just 2 years of a 22-year sentence, and he wants to get his hair done straight away as he doesn't want the public to see it :hilarious
Pretty Boy
20-01-2021, 07:03 AM
I don't really understand the whole pardons system.
I understand why it could be useful for overturning a death sentence at the last minute when all other avenues have been exhausted for example (executing people in a supposedly civilised society is a whole other debate anyway). However this huge swathe of pardons at the end of presidential terms just seems like an abuse of executive power. A chance to sort out your mates and a few celebrities without fear of political reprisal. Why has Bannon been pardoned? What compelling evidence is there that he is likely to be the victim of a miscarriage of justice if he went to trial?
That's not just aimed at Trump either because it's pretty much a tradition for outgoing Presidents. It seems a pretty weird justice system that allows this and, unlike a lot of areas of US politics, there is little that can be done at federal level to stop or reverse the decision.
BroxburnHibee
20-01-2021, 07:18 AM
There could be many pardons which have been kept secret.
Ghislaine Maxwell anyone?
AltheHibby
20-01-2021, 07:23 AM
There could be many pardons which have been kept secret.
Ghislaine Maxwell anyone?
I doubt it. Pardons have to be public and to pardon her would go against Qanon, with all that would do to Trump's massive pile of lies.
Barney McGrew
20-01-2021, 07:30 AM
I doubt it. Pardons have to be public and to pardon her would go against Qanon, with all that would do to Trump's massive pile of lies.
AFAIK, it’s just a historic convention that they’re made public and there is actually no requirement to do so.
There’s a strong belief among many that Trump will have pardoned others privately and they’ll only become public down the line if those people are charged.
Ozyhibby
20-01-2021, 07:43 AM
I don't really understand the whole pardons system.
I understand why it could be useful for overturning a death sentence at the last minute when all other avenues have been exhausted for example (executing people in a supposedly civilised society is a whole other debate anyway). However this huge swathe of pardons at the end of presidential terms just seems like an abuse of executive power. A chance to sort out your mates and a few celebrities without fear of political reprisal. Why has Bannon been pardoned? What compelling evidence is there that he is likely to be the victim of a miscarriage of justice if he went to trial?
That's not just aimed at Trump either because it's pretty much a tradition for outgoing Presidents. It seems a pretty weird justice system that allows this and, unlike a lot of areas of US politics, there is little that can be done at federal level to stop or reverse the decision.
I think historically it is seen as a good thing as it has been used to correct a lot of miscarriage of justice cases. It is also seen as another balance on a justice system the is racist. It’s always been abused though and that is what gets the attention.
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Ozyhibby
20-01-2021, 07:44 AM
AFAIK, it’s just a historic convention that they’re made public and there is actually no requirement to do so.
There’s a strong belief among many that Trump will have pardoned others privately and they’ll only become public down the line if those people are charged.
There is no benefit to that though. A public pardon will stop an investigation in its tracks. If it’s kept secret then it will proceed and the hit to reputation and further legal jeopardy can happen.
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marinello59
20-01-2021, 07:52 AM
There is no benefit to that though. A public pardon will stop an investigation in its tracks. If it’s kept secret then it will proceed and the hit to reputation and further legal jeopardy can happen.
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:agree:
marinello59
20-01-2021, 07:55 AM
I think historically it is seen as a good thing as it has been used to correct a lot of miscarriage of justice cases. It is also seen as another balance on a justice system the is racist. It’s always been abused though and that is what gets the attention.
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In the right hands it is the ultimate check to the system and has probably done more good than harm. Trump has just ended things as he started.
Today we move on, it’s going to feel like a slightly better world tomorrow morning.
Ozyhibby
20-01-2021, 07:58 AM
so, has the tiger king joe exotic been pardoned ? his legal team have lined up a limo and helicopter for his expected release after serving just 2 years of a 22-year sentence, and he wants to get his hair done straight away as he doesn't want the public to see it :hilarious
Nope, still in jail.
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Ozyhibby
20-01-2021, 07:59 AM
His list of pardons and commutations have been announced, and include Steve Bannon, Jared’s pal Ken Kurson and his fundraiser Elliot Broidy.
Corrupt to the end.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/20/donald-trump-pardons-steve-bannon-amid-last-acts-of-presidency-report
The pardon of Bannon won’t help him much. He’ll be charged by a state now.
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lapsedhibee
20-01-2021, 08:01 AM
In the right hands it is the ultimate check to the system and has probably done more good than harm. Trump has just ended things as he started.
Today we move on, it’s going to feel like a slightly better world tomorrow morning.
No need to wait that long. Champagne corks can pop at 5pm here. :party:
JimBHibees
20-01-2021, 10:18 AM
I don't really understand the whole pardons system.
I understand why it could be useful for overturning a death sentence at the last minute when all other avenues have been exhausted for example (executing people in a supposedly civilised society is a whole other debate anyway). However this huge swathe of pardons at the end of presidential terms just seems like an abuse of executive power. A chance to sort out your mates and a few celebrities without fear of political reprisal. Why has Bannon been pardoned? What compelling evidence is there that he is likely to be the victim of a miscarriage of justice if he went to trial?
That's not just aimed at Trump either because it's pretty much a tradition for outgoing Presidents. It seems a pretty weird justice system that allows this and, unlike a lot of areas of US politics, there is little that can be done at federal level to stop or reverse the decision.
Agree with every word an enormous and powerful country maintained and self promoted as being built on the wonders of democracy and law and order to allow this complete sham to take place is pretty scandalous to be honest.
ACLeith
20-01-2021, 12:25 PM
Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio
Hibrandenburg
20-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Donald has left the building.
Jones28
20-01-2021, 12:27 PM
:giruy2: bye bye!
ACLeith
20-01-2021, 12:38 PM
Pass the sick bag. Lying to the very end
AltheHibby
20-01-2021, 12:40 PM
Pass the sick bag. Lying to the very end
I had to mute my tv to save it. What an utter POS.
Callum_62
20-01-2021, 12:40 PM
The old sky rocket downwards
[emoji573][emoji23]
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Northernhibee
20-01-2021, 01:01 PM
They'd better put all those empty Big Mac boxes out into the recycling and fabreeze the place before the new resident moves in.
overdrive
20-01-2021, 01:12 PM
What was with the YMCA being played at the end? :faf:
Hibrandenburg
20-01-2021, 01:17 PM
What was with the YMCA being played at the end? :faf:
There's a place he can go.
cabbageandribs1875
20-01-2021, 02:25 PM
Nope, still in jail.
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oooh his legal team were positive after they spent a lot of time at the white house last week in discussions, they maybe simply didn't offer the PoS enough $$$$'s
hibsbollah
20-01-2021, 03:34 PM
What was with the YMCA being played at the end? :faf:
Theyve been playing it at a lot of his functions and rallies. Kind of amusing since its all about gay men desperately trying to have lots of sex with each other, not exactly what youd think his fanbase would look kindly on:greengrin
Trump rallies are all about loud music. Its like WWE. Various musicians (Neil Young, The Stones, Springsteen, Aerosmith, Queen, The Beatles (well, their estate) all got lawyers involved when Trump kept playing their songs at rallies even after desist notices were sent. He just doesnt give a flying one.
lapsedhibee
20-01-2021, 03:44 PM
Various musicians (Neil Young, The Stones, Springsteen, Aerosmith, Queen, The Beatles (well, their estate) all got lawyers involved when Trump kept playing their songs at rallies even after desist notices were sent.
First conspiracy theories I can ever remember hearing were that a body double was used on the Abbey Road zebra crossing picture because Paul McCartney was actually dead, and that if you played the end of Abbey Road backwards you'd hear satanic messages. Straight line between Beatles crazies and QAnon and Trumpism. :agree:
calumhibee1
20-01-2021, 04:16 PM
The thread title can now be changed :agree:
Ronniekirk
20-01-2021, 04:54 PM
Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish as my Mum used to say
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Keith_M
20-01-2021, 05:09 PM
The thread title can now be changed :agree:
I was just thinking the same thing
:greengrin
Ozyhibby
20-01-2021, 05:38 PM
All power has now gone from him now. He’s just an old racist man shouting at the TV now. The only thing different about him is that he faces a lot of legal problems.
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Hibrandenburg
20-01-2021, 05:54 PM
All power has now gone from him now. He’s just an old racist man shouting at the TV now. The only thing different about him is that he faces a lot of legal problems.
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I really hope he gets some stripey suntan. America can't heal until he is fully exposed and punished for what he is.
CropleyWasGod
20-01-2021, 09:34 PM
Just watched a documentary about the new, redesigned, £5bn Air Force One.
Trump was on it, spraffing about his legacy, and his input into the process.
"I had a lot to do with it"
He chose the ****ing colour scheme for the livery 🤣
Sylar
20-01-2021, 09:37 PM
Has he been arrested yet? :greengrin
They'd better put all those empty Big Mac boxes out into the recycling and fabreeze the place before the new resident moves in.
They gave it a deep clean, at a cost of $200,000, in the 5 hours between Trump leaving and Biden arriving.
Hibrandenburg
20-01-2021, 09:48 PM
They gave it a deep clean, at a cost of $200,000, in the 5 hours between Trump leaving and Biden arriving.
$200,000!!!! ****ing hell, did Trump hold a dirty protest for the last couple of weeks?
JimBHibees
20-01-2021, 09:50 PM
$200,000!!!! ****ing hell, did Trump hold a dirty protest for the last couple of weeks?
A lot of work to find the Russian bugs I expect :greengrin
RyeSloan
20-01-2021, 10:14 PM
It seems that QAnon essentially came to an end today.
Allegedly a central tenet of the conspiracy was ‘the storm’ where Trump would round up the satanists and child molesters in a day of reckoning.
With him now out of power and unable to deliver said storm the conspiracy has failed deliver one of its key promises.
The key Q account that posted the conspiracy in the first place and fed the believers has also fallen silent with nothing since Trumps defeat.
$200,000!!!! ****ing hell, did Trump hold a dirty protest for the last couple of weeks?
Just to prove I didn't just make up the figure, here's the source.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210118/white-house-being-deep-cleaned-before-inauguration
I see (from a different source) Biden's brought in the rug that Bill Clinton had so a big chunk of the $200k will be to get the stains out of it.
The Modfather
20-01-2021, 11:19 PM
First conspiracy theories I can ever remember hearing were that a body double was used on the Abbey Road zebra crossing picture because Paul McCartney was actually dead, and that if you played the end of Abbey Road backwards you'd hear satanic messages. Straight line between Beatles crazies and QAnon and Trumpism. :agree:
I’ve never understood the Paul Mcartney conspiracy theory. If the real Mcartney died what a stroke of luck that the lookalike turned out to be one of the greatest musicians in history and is still going strong 50 years later.
Haymaker
21-01-2021, 04:40 AM
$200,000!!!! ****ing hell, did Trump hold a dirty protest for the last couple of weeks?
It's a big building, would need a fair amount of cleaning staff and lysol is at a premium right now too.
lapsedhibee
21-01-2021, 06:56 AM
I’ve never understood the Paul Mcartney conspiracy theory. If the real Mcartney died what a stroke of luck that the lookalike turned out to be one of the greatest musicians in history and is still going strong 50 years later.
:tsk tsk: You're just not believing hard enough.
hibsbollah
21-01-2021, 07:06 AM
I’ve never understood the Paul Mcartney conspiracy theory. If the real Mcartney died what a stroke of luck that the lookalike turned out to be one of the greatest musicians in history and is still going strong 50 years later.
The Frog chorus?? :dunno:
Keith_M
21-01-2021, 07:06 AM
I’ve never understood the Paul Mcartney conspiracy theory. If the real Mcartney died what a stroke of luck that the lookalike turned out to be one of the greatest musicians in history and is still going strong 50 years later.
I'm sorry, but there's no way the real McCartney would have had ANY part in this....
https://youtu.be/6PMiP90ntZ8
Hibernia&Alba
21-01-2021, 09:41 AM
Thank God he's gone....at least for now. Time will tell how politically influential he will remain.
Hibbyradge
21-01-2021, 09:52 AM
Thank God he's gone....at least for now. Time will tell how politically influential he will remain.
It really does feel like something unreal has ended.
The easiest way to describe how I feel is by comparing it to waking up from a nightmare, but I think it's more like recovering from a horrible illness or fever.
I just hope they vaccinate us by progressing the impeachment to its fullest conclusion and stop it ever happening again.
Keith_M
21-01-2021, 11:06 AM
Thank God he's gone....at least for now. Time will tell how politically influential he will remain.
Sadly he legitimized a large number of questionable groups and nutjob theories, and the effect of that won't go away so easily.
The rather camp named 'Proud Boys' is just one of those and I understand it's appeal has now expanded to some people from ethnic minority backgrounds.
cabbageandribs1875
21-01-2021, 04:26 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140754652_10225426221264951_180834016108003275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=nC_rg1tT474AX94dTdk&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=4c565ce5158d98368b6827e46cfd6121&oe=602F2E93
this guy actually went to Harvard
Stairway 2 7
21-01-2021, 06:12 PM
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1352284365854806017?s=21
Bafoon
lapsedhibee
21-01-2021, 06:16 PM
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1352284365854806017?s=21
Bafoon
Imagine what he'd look like after four years if it'd been a full-fat Coke button.
Haymaker
22-01-2021, 01:06 AM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140754652_10225426221264951_180834016108003275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=nC_rg1tT474AX94dTdk&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=4c565ce5158d98368b6827e46cfd6121&oe=602F2E93
this guy actually went to Harvard
Boris went to Oxford.
Keith_M
22-01-2021, 08:28 AM
Boris went to Oxford.
Where he studied Latin and Ancient Greek.
Of no practical use to man nor beast, a bit like Johnson himself.
Jones28
22-01-2021, 08:59 AM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140754652_10225426221264951_180834016108003275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=nC_rg1tT474AX94dTdk&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=4c565ce5158d98368b6827e46cfd6121&oe=602F2E93
this guy actually went to Harvard
The scary thing is people will swallow that.
Hibs Class
22-01-2021, 09:13 AM
Where he studied Latin and Ancient Greek.
Of no practical use to man nor beast, a bit like Johnson himself.
There's much, much more to classics than being able to speak Latin! A much more worthwhile subject than many that are now in the curriculum.
Hibrandenburg
22-01-2021, 09:25 AM
There's much, much more to classics than being able to speak Latin! A much more worthwhile subject than many that are now in the curriculum.
Agreed, anyone studying contemporary languages, maths or any of the sciences would do well to study Latin. My 12 year old has chosen it for his 2nd foreign language from a choice between French, Spanish, Russian or Latin.
Keith_M
22-01-2021, 09:40 AM
There's much, much more to classics than being able to speak Latin! A much more worthwhile subject than many that are now in the curriculum.
The use of Latin among the Upper Classes is merely a continuation of the 'them and us' divisions of past eras.
When the Normans invaded England, they had a language divide whereby they could identify those in the 'elite', and look down on the inferior, Anglo-Saxons. When this died out, they adopted the language the RC church had been using to similar effect.
Combined with being able to identify quotations from obscure historical texts taught only in Private Schools, this is an excellent perpetuation of Class Division, both making them feel good about themselves and easily identifying their equals (very useful when it comes to hiring and promotion).
Hibrandenburg
22-01-2021, 09:58 AM
The use of Latin among the Upper Classes is merely a continuation of the 'them and us' divisions of past eras.
When the Normans invaded England, they had a language divide whereby they could identify those in the 'elite', and look down on the inferior, Anglo-Saxons. When this died out, they adopted the language the RC church had been using to similar effect.
Combined with being able to identify quotations from obscure historical texts taught only in Private Schools, this is an excellent perpetuation of Class Division, both making them feel good about themselves and easily identifying their equals (very useful when it comes to hiring and promotion).
Si non potes vincere possumus, certus iungere se.
Hibs Class
22-01-2021, 11:17 AM
The use of Latin among the Upper Classes is merely a continuation of the 'them and us' divisions of past eras.
When the Normans invaded England, they had a language divide whereby they could identify those in the 'elite', and look down on the inferior, Anglo-Saxons. When this died out, they adopted the language the RC church had been using to similar effect.
Combined with being able to identify quotations from obscure historical texts taught only in Private Schools, this is an excellent perpetuation of Class Division, both making them feel good about themselves and easily identifying their equals (very useful when it comes to hiring and promotion).
semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit
Keith_M
22-01-2021, 11:31 AM
Si non potes vincere possumus, certus iungere se.
semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit
Semper ubi, sub ubi.
Dan Sarf
22-01-2021, 11:57 AM
Ipsum relinquere nunquam maior nostra as we often say in our house.
Hibbyradge
22-01-2021, 12:01 PM
GIRUY Google translate and FO with the posey latin, as I've never said before, but will happily say again.
Hibbyradge
22-01-2021, 03:05 PM
Next week should be interesting
Hibs Class
22-01-2021, 03:15 PM
GIRUY Google translate and FO with the posey latin, as I've never said before, but will happily say again.
Mea culpa
Sylar
22-01-2021, 03:17 PM
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Hibbyradge
22-01-2021, 04:28 PM
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Nonexisti madeupeum
hibsbollah
22-01-2021, 04:30 PM
Nonexisti madeupeum
Amadoundum Kontenonium.
CropleyWasGod
22-01-2021, 04:50 PM
Back on track, any truth in the allegation that Biden is a senex sordidus?
cabbageandribs1875
24-01-2021, 07:33 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/142118536_10158879618734291_7736741306799900225_n. jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=nXMF_kpkXJ4AX_-O29V&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=2b087345560fa68238c75c6a3c9f0dcb&oe=6033717F
Keith_M
25-01-2021, 08:58 AM
The Simpsons can predict the future...
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19035016.issue-day-life-imitates-art-via-simpsons/?action=success#comments-feedback-anchor
Ozyhibby
25-01-2021, 11:40 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210125/659a1365c0afe99b153ada4fd1e24db3.jpg
Giuliani being sued for £1.3bn. The legal profession will be very busy over the next decade dealing with Trump and associates.
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Betty Boop
13-02-2021, 08:06 PM
Trump acquitted of Insurrection.
cabbageandribs1875
13-02-2021, 08:07 PM
as expected, Trump Acquitted
Trump acquitted in impeachment trial; 7 GOP Senators vote with Democrats to convict (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-acquitted-in-impeachment-trial-7-gop-senators-vote-with-democrats-to-convict/ar-BB1dEO0c)
only 7 republicans voted with the democrats
BroxburnHibee
13-02-2021, 08:10 PM
As expected. Party politics over country yet again.
Expect Trump to start his re-election campaign pretty quickly now.
lapsedhibee
13-02-2021, 08:54 PM
Expected but still ******* ****.
Jim44
13-02-2021, 09:10 PM
The Republicans voting to acquit Trump are like turkeys voting for Christmas.
CapitalGreen
13-02-2021, 09:24 PM
Trump now being free to set up his own party which splits the Republican vote would be poetic justice for those spineless Republican senators who voted to acquit him (twice).
Hibbyradge
13-02-2021, 09:46 PM
Trump now being free to set up his own party which splits the Republican vote would be poetic justice for those spineless Republican senators who voted to acquit him (twice).
That's too much to hope for, sadly.
Tobias Funke
13-02-2021, 10:17 PM
Guilty as **** in both impeachments but sadly partisan politics wins the day and fat boy can carry on his “witch hunt” narrative.
Hibernia&Alba
14-02-2021, 01:14 AM
The Republicans voting to acquit Trump are like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Credit to the seven Republican senators who voted to convict Trump; they will be remembered for doing the right thing. The other 43 are either spineless or amoral, some being terrified of Trump's base and fear being primaried the next time they are up for election. Others are diehard Trump supporters and would take a bullet for him. If spreading a conspiracy theory about a stolen election, thus undermining the democratic process whilst stirring up an insurrection isn't indictable, then nothing is. It sets a dangerous precedent of a president being above the law and reminds me of Nixon's infamous "if the president does it, it's legal" remark to David Frost after Watergate. A terrible day for the rule of law.
Bristolhibby
14-02-2021, 02:20 AM
Trump now being free to set up his own party which splits the Republican vote would be poetic justice for those spineless Republican senators who voted to acquit him (twice).
Trump free to run in the Republican primaries. Why split the vote. He owns the Republicans.
J
Ozyhibby
14-02-2021, 06:48 AM
Trump free to run in the Republican primaries. Why split the vote. He owns the Republicans.
J
Only if he can stay clear of other potential legal entanglements over the next 4 years.
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G B Young
14-02-2021, 09:17 AM
Trump now being free to set up his own party which splits the Republican vote would be poetic justice for those spineless Republican senators who voted to acquit him (twice).
Highly unlikely he'll make a frontline return when the dust finally settles IMHO. Suspect he'll content himself with seeing out his days by continuing to portray himself as a 'wronged president in exile'.
This guy hasn't done the new broom Biden administration any favours mind you. Trump-esque language:
TJ Ducklo: Biden aide quits over 'abhorrent' language - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56058477)
Hibbyradge
14-02-2021, 09:23 AM
Highly unlikely he'll make a frontline return when the dust finally settles IMHO. Suspect he'll content himself with seeing out his days by continuing to portray himself as a 'wronged president in exile'.
This guy hasn't done the new broom Biden administration any favours mind you. Trump-esque language:
TJ Ducklo: Biden aide quits over 'abhorrent' language - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56058477)
On the contrary, I think his suspension and resignation underlines how decent a man Biden is.
Trump would have applauded Ducklo.
hibsbollah
14-02-2021, 12:04 PM
Highly unlikely he'll make a frontline return when the dust finally settles IMHO. Suspect he'll content himself with seeing out his days by continuing to portray himself as a 'wronged president in exile'.
This guy hasn't done the new broom Biden administration any favours mind you. Trump-esque language:
TJ Ducklo: Biden aide quits over 'abhorrent' language - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56058477)
A recent exchange on a US sports show I listen to; Male Pundit: mocks female pundit ‘you should stop watching dumb tv shows and open a book once in a while’ Female pundit: ‘I’ll have you know I have just read two BIG books, so I’ll watch whatever shows I want and if you don’t like that you could stick it where the sun don’t shine’. Male pundit- (laughs) OK whatever. Female pundit- ‘I will DESTROY you’ Male pundit- ‘In what?’ (More laughs all round).
In short, I’m not sure ‘I’ll destroy you’ is a threat of violence, more like a confidence in my ability to give you a verbal take down. However, I suppose the Dems will be stumbling over themselves not to be percéived as having double standards vis a vis Trump being abusive to the press corps, even though there’s no comparison between this case and mocking the disabled or going after reporters of colour on purpose like Trump did.
CropleyWasGod
14-02-2021, 12:10 PM
A recent exchange on a US sports show I listen to; Male Pundit: mocks female pundit ‘you should stop watching dumb tv shows and open a book once in a while’ Female pundit: ‘I’ll have you know I have just read two BIG books, so I’ll watch whatever shows I want and if you don’t like that you could stick it where the sun don’t shine’. Male pundit- (laughs) OK whatever. Female pundit- ‘I will DESTROY you’ Male pundit- ‘In what?’ (More laughs all round).
In short, I’m not sure ‘I’ll destroy you’ is a threat of violence, more like a confidence in my ability to give you a verbal take down. However, I suppose the Dems will be stumbling over themselves not to be percéived as having double standards vis a vis Trump being abusive to the press corps, even though there’s no comparison between this case and mocking the disabled or going after reporters of colour on purpose like Trump did.
It's the unpublished "derogatory and misogynistic language " that's the issue, no?
Hibbyradge
14-02-2021, 01:18 PM
It's the unpublished "derogatory and misogynistic language " that's the issue, no?
And the fact that it was bullying.
hibsbollah
14-02-2021, 01:23 PM
It's the unpublished "derogatory and misogynistic language " that's the issue, no?
Misogynism is obviously a bad thing. I wonder what was unpublished and why.
Keith_M
14-02-2021, 01:30 PM
Trump acquitted of Insurrection.
There was never any likelihood of any other result.
cabbageandribs1875
14-02-2021, 05:37 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/150205511_1620230274831285_2979303459639552214_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Jn_bRhwKjW4AX_Pv35K&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=a32f825178764aa3ddd95af65fff87bd&oe=604EF0FD
Jones28
14-02-2021, 06:13 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/150205511_1620230274831285_2979303459639552214_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Jn_bRhwKjW4AX_Pv35K&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=a32f825178764aa3ddd95af65fff87bd&oe=604EF0FD
Jesus ****ing Christ.
Jim44
14-02-2021, 09:31 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/150205511_1620230274831285_2979303459639552214_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Jn_bRhwKjW4AX_Pv35K&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=a32f825178764aa3ddd95af65fff87bd&oe=604EF0FD
Quelle surprise! UK trash supporting US trash.
cabbageandribs1875
15-02-2021, 10:46 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/150867904_4374305625918242_2852914100964729649_o.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=3&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=mswEuQFgo48AX863qHT&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=99fff2d2daa91e60e5041bde6e72cfa0&oe=6050B99E
oops
cabbageandribs1875
15-02-2021, 10:46 PM
Quelle surprise! UK trash supporting US trash.
this, 110%
Jim44
16-02-2021, 06:42 AM
I wish the brackets in the title of this thread read ‘soon to be forgotten’ but I sense that’s wishful thinking.
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