(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Ozyhibby]

The potential for Trump to have to declare bankruptcy must be quite high now. Yesterday’s ruling and the upcoming one for $330m where his guilt is already established and they are just deciding the amount may be close to wiping him out. I very much doubt he has the cash. He may be able to sell assets but the problem there is he inflated there value to borrow against them and there may not be as much(if any) equity in them as he thinks.


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[lapsedhibee]

The potential for Trump to have to declare bankruptcy must be quite high now. Yesterday’s ruling and the upcoming one for $330m where his guilt is already established and they are just deciding the amount may be close to wiping him out. I very much doubt he has the cash. He may be able to sell assets but the problem there is he inflated there value to borrow against them and there may not be as much(if any) equity in them as he thinks.


Won't he just raise it from his knuckledragging base? :dunno:

[Ozyhibby]

Won't he just raise it from his knuckledragging base? :dunno:

That would break campaign finance laws. Not that that would worry him but I think a closer eye is being kept on him than last time.
And he is already struggling to match Biden. That’s why he is gutted Hailey is staying in the race. It’s costing him money to keep fighting.


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[Hibs4185]

That would break campaign finance laws. Not that that would worry him but I think a closer eye is being kept on him than last time.
And he is already struggling to match Biden. That’s why he is gutted Hailey is staying in the race. It’s costing him money to keep fighting.


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She might spring a surprise with the nomination. She seems to be gathering support for being anti-trump and someone moderates can unite behind.

Fingers crossed there is enough of them

[Ozyhibby]

She might spring a surprise with the nomination. She seems to be gathering support for being anti-trump and someone moderates can unite behind.

Fingers crossed there is enough of them

She has one big thing going for is that she can beat Biden. I don’t think Trump can. If Republicans want to win then she is their best bet.


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[s.a.m]

It’s republicans who are holding up the bill on border security.


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Quite. And they're openly saying they won't vote for anything that might reflect well on Biden. A bipartisan bill looked like a goer the other day, then Trump got involved, and Mitch McConnell said that, unfortunately,, the politics had changed.
There's an unusually small amount of legislative business taking place because the Republicans' main goal at the moment is thwarting Biden's plans, even if they agree with them, and they have the numbers to do it.

[AltheHibby]

Won't he just raise it from his knuckledragging base? :dunno:

He is. Is saw a screenshot of a $75million fundraiser on Twitter.

[Kato]

Dr Morel, Hitler's Reichsspritzenmeister, would have been proud.

https://twitter.com/nickmmark/status/1751040181153702142?t=lsQZEv_-BjKEe0nw64sb6g&s=19

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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GE8YT-9WUAAs4QD?format=jpg&name=large

[JimBHibees]

She has one big thing going for is that she can beat Biden. I don’t think Trump can. If Republicans want to win then she is their best bet.


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Is Biden the only democrat candidate?

[Hibs4185]

Is Biden the only democrat candidate?

Normally the sitting president doesn’t get challenged I think

[JimBHibees]

Normally the sitting president doesn’t get challenged I think

Ok cheers didn't realise that

[s.a.m]

Normally the sitting president doesn’t get challenged I think

I think you're right that that's the convention, but Biden is being challenged (very unsuccessfully) for the nomination by Dean Phillips, a woman whose name I can't remember (a self-help author, I think), and previously by Robert Kennedy who is now running as an independant. Biden won the New Hampshire primary last week with 64% of the vote, despite not even being on the ticket*, after a successful campaign to write his name on the ballot.

* Because of a dispute about the primary calendar between the state, who have a rule that they have to be the first primary, and the Democratic party who shifted their first primary to South Carolina because it's more diverse than New Hampshire. Which is really white.

[Stairway 2 7]

Seems Biden is a good judge of character on the weirdo that is Trump

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2024/02/01/what-biden-really-says-about-trump-behind-closed-doors-00139178

[Stairway 2 7]

Probably the dumbest clip I've ever seen, Trump is surrounded by imbeciles

https://twitter.com/Luiseach/status/1753105577310617730

[Kato]

Probably the dumbest clip I've ever seen, Trump is surrounded by imbeciles

https://twitter.com/Luiseach/status/1753105577310617730Saw that last night. Sometimes you think it's deliberate, then it dawns....

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[Lendo]

Probably the dumbest clip I've ever seen, Trump is surrounded by imbeciles

https://twitter.com/Luiseach/status/1753105577310617730

They really are the stupidest nation on earth.

[cabbageandribs1875]

seriously, WTF is wrong with this THING Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who don't pay their bills - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447) he's just not right in the head

[Stairway 2 7]

seriously, WTF is wrong with this THING Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who don't pay their bills - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447) he's just not right in the head

When you think he can't surprise you with how abhorrent he is. Even right wingers like Reagan and Nixon would be disgusted in him

[Scorrie]

seriously, WTF is wrong with this THING Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who don't pay their bills - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447) he's just not right in the head

But he’s ahead in the polls! Mental. We could be in interesting times if he wins in November. Ukraine is very much in trouble at least and the Baltic states will be really nervous

[Stairway 2 7]

But he’s ahead in the polls! Mental. We could be in interesting times if he wins in November. Ukraine is very much in trouble at least and the Baltic states will be really nervous

Thankfully all other states bordering are in NATO and they would utterly obliterate Russia. Definitely will be a blow to Ukraine. Mood music is that Putin is holding on fighting until November when Trump comes in and he can push for a favorable deal and annexation.

Ukraine will fight on due to the money agreed by the EU last week but Europe has to step up. Only Germany Poland and the Baltics are taking it seriously in stepping up their military. The duo of Iran and Russia will push all they can.

Trump will push countries like Taiwan and the Baltics to look at getting their own nuclear arsenal if they can't depend on the US

[Keith_M]

When you think he can't surprise you with how abhorrent he is. Even right wingers like Reagan and Nixon would be disgusted in him


But sadly he seems to appeal even more to large swathes of the US public.

[Ozyhibby]

But sadly he seems to appeal even more to large swathes of the US public.

I still don’t think he will make it to the start line. I’m not sure Biden will either.


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[Stairway 2 7]

But sadly he seems to appeal even more to large swathes of the US public.

Populism is popular, see Boris. We're poor because these immigrants not because the billionaire I work for is paying me a pittance

[Stairway 2 7]

I still don’t think he will make it to the start line. I’m not sure Biden will either.


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It was a poor report and press conference for Biden on Friday, made him look more frail. I've never know anything like this the two opponents falling to the finish line, really poor stuff. Haley leads Biden by 10 in some polls but the brainwashed right would rather their fuhrer than anyone

[Hibrandenburg]

Trump only sees things in monetary terms and even then he mostly gets it wrong. The US became a super power on the back of wars, why wouldn't he think war is good for the US?

[Kato]

When you think he can't surprise you with how abhorrent he is. Even right wingers like Reagan and Nixon would be disgusted in himTrump cowtows to putin at every turn.

Boris's wife was high up in The Conservative Friends of Russia Group and Boris worked for The Telegraph which was getting £250,000 a year from Russia to to promote Russian needs. Any investigation into these contacts has been blocked. When Russia first invaded Ukraine ten years ago Boris blamed it on the EU and called them Nazis.

Johnson has a stated ambition to be a "war Prime Minister."

All through this Russian ambitions have been available in their statements and writings since the 1990's, alongside their stated psychop plans to divide the USA and the EU.

What chances the war in Ukraine doesn't expand? Its all there in front of our eyes.

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[neil7908]

I still don’t think he will make it to the start line. I’m not sure Biden will either.


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I thought that a year ago but he seems to be getting these trials delayed.

If he is on the ticket he beats Biden 100%.

An absolute disgrace that the best the US can come up with is Trump and Biden.

Then again, we've had Boris, Truss, Sunak and Starmer to come.

Will we ever again see an intelligent, inspiring, empathetic leader in either country?

[Stairway 2 7]

Wow on Friday Trump said the NRA that he would mobilise 150k-200k national guards immediately to start deporting millions of immigrants. Aides say The army would have to be made up from people from red states and travel into blue states. Maybe they could use cattle trains!

"When I am President, on Day One, instead of fighting Texas, I will work hand in hand with Governor Abbott and other Border States to Stop the Invasion, Seal the Border, and Rapidly Begin the Largest Domestic Deportation Operation in History. Those Biden has let in should not get comfortable because they will be going home"

https://archive.ph/uDjlo


Ronald Brownstein
@RonBrownstein
To round up migrants, Miller said, Trump would dispatch forces to “go around the country arresting illegal immigrants in large-scale raids.” Then, it would build “large-scale staging grounds near the border, most likely in TX,” to serve as internment camps for migrants

From these camps, admin would schedule constant flights returning migrants to their home countries. Miller: “You create this efficiency by having these standing facilities where planes are moving off the runway constantly, probably military aircraft, some existing DHS assets"

Jason Houser, former ICE Chief of Staff, says removing 500k to 1 million migrants a year could require as many as 100,000–150,000 deputized enforcement officers. Staffing the internment camps and constant flights that Miller is contemplating could require 50,000 more people

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGBw51VWsAEqKN9?format=jpg&name=medium

[nonshinyfinish]

"When I am President, on Day One, instead of fighting Texas, I will work hand in hand with Governor Abbott and other Border States to Stop the Invasion, Seal the Border, and Rapidly Begin the Largest Domestic Deportation Operation in History. Those Biden has let in should not get comfortable because they will be going home"

Not to trivialise the real-world consequences of his rhetoric, but the bonkers capitalisation is enough to give me a rage blackout.

[stokesmessiah]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGBw51VWsAEqKN9?format=jpg&name=medium

That’s quite frightening, gives carte Blanche to the nutters in his support to do as they please.

[Berwickhibby]

That’s quite frightening, gives carte Blanche to the nutters in his support to do as they please.

The frightening thing is his support seems to be growing in the US

[BroxburnHibee]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGBw51VWsAEqKN9?format=jpg&name=medium

And if he loses then Jan 6 will look like a tea party.

There's no way he'll accept losing

[JimBHibees]

Populism is popular, see Boris. We're poor because these immigrants not because the billionaire I work for is paying me a pittance

Good summary

[Hibs4185]

And if he loses then Jan 6 will look like a tea party.

There's no way he'll accept losing

Hope he is in jail before then but have a funny feeling they’ll manage to drag it out until after the election.

[Keith_M]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGBw51VWsAEqKN9?format=jpg&name=medium


Did he mention getting Snickers renamed to Marathon?

Do that, and I'm in!

U-S-A, U-S-A....

[Bostonhibby]

Populism is popular, see Boris. We're poor because these immigrants not because the billionaire I work for is paying me a pittance[emoji106]



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[Bostonhibby]

Trump cowtows to putin at every turn.

Boris's wife was high up in The Conservative Friends of Russia Group and Boris worked for The Telegraph which was getting £250,000 a year from Russia to to promote Russian needs. Any investigation into these contacts has been blocked. When Russia first invaded Ukraine ten years ago Boris blamed it on the EU and called them Nazis.

Johnson has a stated ambition to be a "war Prime Minister."

All through this Russian ambitions have been available in their statements and writings since the 1990's, alongside their stated psychop plans to divide the USA and the EU.

What chances the war in Ukraine doesn't expand? Its all there in front of our eyes.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkBozo would only do the war prime minister role if he could do it from hiding inside a freezer in case he actually had to front up a grown up holding him accountable for his behaviour or decisions...

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[Hibs Class]

As far as Russian interference in the US elections is concerned, this is not so subtle

US election 2024: Putin says he prefers Joe Biden over Donald Trump in the White House - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68302071)

[CropleyWasGod]

As far as Russian interference in the US elections is concerned, this is not so subtle

US election 2024: Putin says he prefers Joe Biden over Donald Trump in the White House - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68302071)

...so people vote for Trump, and Putin gets what he actually wants. :greengrin

[Hibs Class]

...so people vote for Trump, and Putin gets what he actually wants. :greengrin

To be fair, I think Putin has made a fairly accurate assessment of the average American voter's intellectual capacity

[Keith_M]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcDQe0rpmi0

[Stairway 2 7]

...so people vote for Trump, and Putin gets what he actually wants. :greengrin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68303231

Yeah fairly obvious from him.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68303231

Yeah fairly obvious from him.

His reverse psychology about as convincing as me trying to persuade my kids that Brussels sprouts are delicious.


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[Stairway 2 7]

His reverse psychology about as convincing as me trying to persuade my kids that Brussels sprouts are delicious.


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I think the timing is obvious after Trump taking a bashing in America about his NATO comments and Biden calling him a useful idiot. Same with Carlson he's been getting called an asset by big hitters in the US so Putin starts mildly criticising Carlson yesterday. You scratch our back

[Hibrandenburg]

The amount of times Trump says "that hasn't been seen in this country" has got me wondering if they're all blind.

[Ozyhibby]

$354m ruling against him.
He does not have that. Judge has hammered him.


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[Hibs4185]

Video of tucker Carlson in a Russian supermarket, amazed how you put a coin in a trolley and get it back when you return it. He says it makes a change from homeless people stealing trolleys

I thought it must be a *isstake but it’s genuine.

These *unts are mental

[Stairway 2 7]

Video of tucker Carlson in a Russian supermarket, amazed how you put a coin in a trolley and get it back when you return it. He says it makes a change from homeless people stealing trolleys

I thought it must be a *isstake but it’s genuine.

These *unts are mental

Saw that bizarre. He was saying today when challenged about being soft to Putin and not questioning him on his crimes and Navalny, he replied all politicians have opposition killed. He also says he is an example of opposition press being squashed. Idiot doesn't say whilst he is free to make money and say what he wants in America that opposition voices in Russia stay in prison or die. I think he's close to defecting to Russia the bampot

[Hibs4185]

Saw that bizarre. He was saying today when challenged about being soft to Putin and not questioning him on his crimes and Navalny, he replied all politicians have opposition killed. He also says he is an example of opposition press being squashed. Idiot doesn't say whilst he is free to make money and say what he wants in America that opposition voices in Russia stay in prison or die. I think he's close to defecting to Russia the bampot

My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.

Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.

How can people support Putin?

[JimBHibees]

My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.

Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.

How can people support Putin?

Sounds like the guy has a few issues. Don’t think we get to choose between the two.

[Paul1642]

My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.

Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.

How can people support Putin?

I wouldn’t waste your effort. Western folk who are still pro Putin after the last few years will never change their mind so might as well not fall out with your Gym owner over it 😂

I guess the mindset starts with thinking that politicians like Sunak, Biden ect = **** which I think many of us 100% agree with however somewhere down the line they mange to twist that into thinking lunatics like Putin and Trump are the answer.

The answer should be competent sane politicians who aren’t corrupt however unfortunately on the rare occasion that one appears they never make it near the top.

[Kato]

How can people support Putin?

Gullibility + ignorance ^ propaganda.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

get yer Trump Sneakers, only $399 Trump Promotes $400 Sneakers After $450 Million Penalty in Fraud Case - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/trump-sneakers-line.html)

#TrumpSneakers - Search / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpSneakers&src=typeahead_click)

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/1200/675/Trump-Trump-Sneakers.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

[Hibs4185]

get yer Trump Sneakers, only $399 Trump Promotes $400 Sneakers After $450 Million Penalty in Fraud Case - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/trump-sneakers-line.html)

#TrumpSneakers - Search / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpSneakers&src=typeahead_click)

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/1200/675/Trump-Trump-Sneakers.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Before I get accused of supporting Trump, I don’t, unfortunately his Truth social has just done some sort of merger which values his share at £4 billion.

There is a clause that he can’t sell shares for 6 months or something so he can’t cash in.

Hope to *uck it goes tits up and he ends up bankrupt and/or in jail

[Bostonhibby]

His reverse psychology about as convincing as me trying to persuade my kids that Brussels sprouts are delicious.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMillions of Americans will now be voting Brussel Sprout as a result of this post. The only part man/part vegetable who will build the swamp, drain the wall and make America great again like Trump failed to do first time around.

Go Sprout.

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[One Day Soon]

My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.

Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.

How can people support Putin?


I'm beginning to think we are experiencing some form of abnormally fast evolutionary split within the Homo Sapiens species.

One group is what you might call Homo Rational and the other group is what you might call Homo Thick C***s.

[grunt]

I'm beginning to think we are experiencing some form of abnormally fast evolutionary split within the Homo Sapiens species. One group is what you might call Homo Rational and the other group is what you might call Homo Thick C***s.
Unfortunately it's the latter group in power in the UK, and likely to get back into power in the US. We're doomed.

[Bostonhibby]

My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.

Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.

How can people support Putin?Jeez, other gyms are available.

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[Moulin Yarns]

Saw this on threads



MASSIVE NEWS - DOJ says 60-day rule does NOT apply to Trump trials, because he’s already been indicted

So the Trump federal trials CAN happen even if they run into September/October

Drastically increases odds that Trump is tried — and convicted — before the election in November


Please be true.

[Ozyhibby]

Saw this on threads



MASSIVE NEWS - DOJ says 60-day rule does NOT apply to Trump trials, because he’s already been indicted

So the Trump federal trials CAN happen even if they run into September/October

Drastically increases odds that Trump is tried — and convicted — before the election in November


Please be true.

I honestly think the money issue will become his biggest issue long before then.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/acyn/status/1764089216470839300?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[Hibrandenburg]

https://x.com/acyn/status/1764089216470839300?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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It's scary enough that the US holds so much sway in the world, but it's absolutely terrifying that their only 2 candidates to lead them are old codgers who are obviously losing their cognitive faculties.

[babahibs]

It's scary enough that the US holds so much sway in the world, but it's absolutely terrifying that their only 2 candidates to lead them are old codgers who are obviously losing their cognitive faculties.

And one of them's a fascist lunatic.

[Hibs4185]

I’ve not read the story properly but it looks like trump has tried to sell shares in Truth to pay his fines so he can appeal but hasn’t told he guys who founded it.

They’re now suing him too.

I’m praying that he can’t pay his fines and the attorney general starts seizing properties

[grunt]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH0Dr74XIAAgJyi?format=jpg&name=medium

[lapsedhibee]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH0Dr74XIAAgJyi?format=jpg&name=medium

Light-bending-round-them energy.

[Ozyhibby]

Trump has until Saturday to stump up about $85m for the first of his fines. That will give an early indication of whether he is likely to make the $455m fine by 25th March.
I don’t think he makes either payment?


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/sherry6767/status/1764680643273752630?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Trumps chief financial officer pleads guilty to perjury. Likely to do time.


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[Bristolhibby]

https://x.com/acyn/status/1764089216470839300?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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Trump talking winds me up so much. It’s like that Limmy sketch.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ein57OSrqoA?si=Fa-Gpzzmk_lu_jOd

J

[Jim44]

Alarmingly, everything is pointing to Trump getting the Republican nomination. I don’t think his misconduct guilt and financial burden will hinder his progress against the fierce opposition of sleepy Joe Biden.

[Ozyhibby]

Alarmingly, everything is pointing to Trump getting the Republican nomination. I don’t think his misconduct guilt and financial burden will hinder his progress against the fierce opposition of sleepy Joe Biden.

He will def get the nomination now unless his legal troubles get in the way.

Biden will beat him in the GE though. And by more than 2020.


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[greenginger]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68280062

Trump wins at Supreme Court stopping states removing him from ballot.

I wonder if he’ll go for compensation. $ 350 million would come in handy. :greengrin

[Hibs4185]

I think there is a lot of Haley supporters who won’t vote for trump.

It’s normally 50/50 and the floating voters decide the election but no chance the majority of floating voters vote for trump, added with the moderate republicans who might just abstain then I think Biden should be a bit more comfortable than last time

[BroxburnHibee]

He will def get the nomination now unless his legal troubles get in the way.

Biden will beat him in the GE though. And by more than 2020.


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He still hasn't accepted the last result and if and hopefully when he loses, there's zero chance he will accept that either.

It's what happens after that concerns me.

[Bristolhibby]

He still hasn't accepted the last result and if and hopefully when he loses, there's zero chance he will accept that either.

It's what happens after that concerns me.

Even if he loses because he hasn’t served two terms he’ll keep popping up like a bad penny until he dies. The grift is too strong for him. What else is he going to do?

J

[Ozyhibby]

Even if he loses because he hasn’t served two terms he’ll keep popping up like a bad penny until he dies. The grift is too strong for him. What else is he going to do?

J

Campaign for his release?


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[Lendo]

Even if he loses because he hasn’t served two terms he’ll keep popping up like a bad penny until he dies. The grift is too strong for him. What else is he going to do?

J

I don't think the two terms thing would stop him if he is elected again. He's already said at a few campaign events that 'they'll look in to a third term as he's been treated so unfairly'.

[greenginger]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68427309

Haley out of the race.

Whats the odds on her being Trumps V P pick. Make sure her voters come his way.

[s.a.m]

I don't think the two terms thing would stop him if he is elected again. He's already said at a few campaign events that 'they'll look in to a third term as he's been treated so unfairly'.

:agree: When he was president, he also spoke admiringly about China removing term limits for president so Xi Jinping could stay in office, in a just-putting-it-out-there kind of a way.

I read yesterday that in a Democrat survey in 3 of the swing states (that eliminated previous Trump voters and election deniers so they were hearing from gettable voters, basically,) only about a third had any awareness of the authoritarian threats Trump has made, including suspending or terminating parts of the constitution and being a dictator on Day 1. When presented with his statements, it had a negative effect on their impression of him, which suggests that if Americans who want to hang onto their democracy / don't want to be ruled by a wannabe spiteful and dictatorial King with a revenge lust can get that information out there, it might make a difference. Not a huge survey, but it's both worrying and hopeful... the only thing is, his threats have been very widely reported here. If people who aren't Trump-minded aren't hearing what he's saying now, I'm not sure how you reach them.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68427309

Haley out of the race.

Whats the odds on her being Trumps V P pick. Make sure her voters come his way.

Almost zero I think? Mind you, I’m frequently amazed at how craven some people can be.


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[greenginger]

:agree: When he was president, he also spoke admiringly about China removing term limits for president so Xi Jinping could stay in office, in a just-putting-it-out-there kind of a way.

I read yesterday that in a Democrat survey in 3 of the swing states (that eliminated previous Trump voters and election deniers so they were hearing from gettable voters, basically,) only about a third had any awareness of the authoritarian threats Trump has made, including suspending or terminating parts of the constitution and being a dictator on Day 1. When presented with his statements, it had a negative effect on their impression of him, which suggests that if Americans who want to hang onto their democracy / don't want to be ruled by a wannabe spiteful and dictatorial King with a revenge lust can get that information out there, it might make a difference. Not a huge survey, but it's both worrying and hopeful... the only thing is, his threats have been very widely reported here. If people who aren't Trump-minded aren't hearing what he's saying now, I'm not sure how you reach them.


A US President can’t change their constitution.

Sounds like democrat scare tactics

[Kato]

A US President can’t change their constitution.

Sounds like democrat scare tacticsSounds like Trumps own scare tactics as he talks about going against the constitution practically ever time he speaks.

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[s.a.m]

A US President can’t change their constitution.

Sounds like democrat scare tactics

He said it out loud, with his own mouth. He also said that he would be a dictator on day 1. Also out of his own mouth, on the telly, he has said that he would use the military to crush dissent, and that he would be removing the government's legal personnel - amongst others - and replacing them with loyalists who would do what they were told.

Even Fox have drawn attention, occasionally, to some of this. And there's a clip of Sean Hannity, who's been a big Trump booster, trying to help him out on the retained records issue, along the lines of: - So it's ridiculous to suggest that you'd deliberately take and hang onto these documents, isnt it Mr President?...
- You betcha I did. They're MINE!

[They're not. Brief summary:

§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records

The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter. https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/presidential-records.html]


He keeps saying these things out loud. Repeatedly. At best, he's a egregious bull*******. At worst, he's a very serious threat, and not just to the US.

[Kato]

A US President can’t change their constitution.

Sounds like democrat scare tacticsBTW. Where can see these democrat scare tactics in action?

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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68427309

Haley out of the race.

Whats the odds on her being Trumps V P pick. Make sure her voters come his way.



None according to this Republican Congress woman

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1765303190059110694?t=VejkFCycqla9NHFAfPXdOQ&s=19


Please watch to the very end 🤣

[Kato]

https://x.com/PettyLupone/status/1765652281725505926?t=iaa49uIatj0i3Vmc6fQM2Q&s=09

Is this an example of democrat scare tactics?

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[Ozyhibby]

Paid the first of his fines today in the rape and defamation case. Good news because at least this woman will get paid.
Still another $400m+ to find by 25th March.


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[Hibs4185]

Paid the first of his fines today in the rape and defamation case. Good news because at least this woman will get paid.
Still another $400m+ to find by 25th March.


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I think it’s abond which had to be paid to allow an appeal. Could be wrong but I think Carroll gets a penny of it…yet

I don’t think he has thr £400 million though, but I have a suspicion he’ll raise it somehow.

[Ozyhibby]

I think it’s abond which had to be paid to allow an appeal. Could be wrong but I think Carroll gets a penny of it…yet

I don’t think he has thr £400 million though, but I have a suspicion he’ll raise it somehow.

She doesn’t get anything yet until after the appeal but once she wins, the cash is sitting there waiting for her.


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[Hibs4185]

She doesn’t get anything yet until after the appeal but once she wins, the cash is sitting there waiting for her.


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Hopefully he will be bankrupt and in jail by then

[Hibs4185]

Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

Nothing dodgy there then.

Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.

[greenginger]

Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

Nothing dodgy there then.

Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.

Chubb is a multi-national which operates in over 50 countries including UK and the US as well as Russia.

[Ozyhibby]

Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

Nothing dodgy there then.

Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.

It’s not been accepted yet. Tomorrow afternoon before we find out if the lawyers object to it.


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[JimBHibees]

Chubb is a multi-national which operates in over 50 countries including UK and the US as well as Russia.

That the keys and locks company?

[RyeSloan]

That the keys and locks company?

No.

Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

Chubb financial is completely different.

The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!

[JimBHibees]

No.

Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

Chubb financial is completely different.

The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!

Ok cheers

[overdrive]

No.

Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

Chubb financial is completely different.

The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!

Basically both originally set up by people with the surname Chubb. No relation to each other, I don't think

[Moulin Yarns]

Basically both originally set up by people with the surname Chubb. No relation to each other, I don't think

And chubb locks are still available.

[Ozyhibby]

Looks like Trump can’t come up with the bond for the 25th March deadline. Shame.
Looking forward to seeing his assets start to get seized from next week.[emoji106]


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[Hibs4185]

Looks like Trump can’t come up with the bond for the 25th March deadline. Shame.
Looking forward to seeing his assets start to get seized from next week.[emoji106]


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Just read that, the fact his lawyers are admitting such suggests that he has no chance of raising it.

Would love to see him get his assets seized, just hope it doesn’t give him a bounce in the polls

[Hibrandenburg]

Just read that, the fact his lawyers are admitting such suggests that he has no chance of raising it.

Would love to see him get his assets seized, just hope it doesn’t give him a bounce in the polls

We're talking about the man who managed to bankrupt his own Casinos. How can anyone bankrupt a money making machine?

[Kato]

Read this on Quora a while recently

Ridiculous debt. Trump financed the casinos with junk bonds at high interest rates, that had a slim chance of being repaid even if the casinos were successful. I’m pretty sure he knew this, and so after taking his cut simply planned on running, leaving investors holding the bag. When I first got into gambling someone once told me, “Whenever you win, put some away, then gamble with the rest of the winnings, then stop. Gamble with the casino’s money, not your money”.

Overexposure. Atlantic City was already full of casinos. Trump wasn’t the first guy to dream about “the East Coast Las Vegas”. To add one more casino to the mix would be a significant risk. However, Trump at one point was running FOUR Atlantic City casinos. He thought that by having four of them, he might get four times the gamblers. Nope. He got the same number of gamblers, now spread across four casinos, at four times the price.

Per above, I believe Trump had approached this situation with his real estate thinking, believing that four properties might net four times the revenue, like tenants and rents. Haha, totally different animals. Gamblers aren’t signing leases, moving into casinos, and paying rent. There’s only so many gamblers, thankfully a small percentage of the population, who aren’t at all like the majority of people who might be looking for residential or office space.

Location. At that time in the 80’s, many of the high rolling gamblers were coming in from Asia. Trump knew this and had concierge offices with Chinese and Japanese speakers set up in his casinos. But AC was quite out of their way across the country, while most of them would be flying into LAX, where LV was only a short hop away.

Indian casinos. A few years after Trump had got his casinos running, the US Govt cut a deal with the Native American tribes of the nation, for them to open casinos on their land. Much of this land was in New England, near NYC and AC. This had a devastating effect on Trump’s and the rest of AC’s casinos.

Image. For some reason Trump has a well-known penchant for gaudy, ostentatious design. Lots of fake gold trim and opulent accents must surround everything of his. It very much seems to scream, “Look at me, I’m rich”. But like the old saying, money can’t buy taste. This was very off-putting to many, who’d rather stay and gamble at classier properties.

Terrible business relations. Trump was well-known for being a cheapskate, demanding the lowest bid on construction projects, who he’d then delay in paying, or not even paying at all. The result, his casinos were terribly built. Guests often complained of issues with their rooms, lights and plumbing not working, and leaks. Word got around and this affected business. Years later as seen here, the abandoned Trump Plaza then actually started crumbling, so was deemed a public safety hazard and ordered demolished. A fitting metaphor for Trump’s casino ventures, as well as most other things that are Trump in America.



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[Ozyhibby]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4544391-ny-ag-urges-appeals-court-to-make-trump-pay-full-bond-in-fraud-case/

4 days to go. The only way he gets out of paying is declaring bankruptcy before Monday otherwise the state will move to seize his properties. If he goes for bankruptcy then Friday would need to be the day. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes.


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[silverhibee]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4544391-ny-ag-urges-appeals-court-to-make-trump-pay-full-bond-in-fraud-case/

4 days to go. The only way he gets out of paying is declaring bankruptcy before Monday otherwise the state will move to seize his properties. If he goes for bankruptcy then Friday would need to be the day. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes.


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Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.

[Lendo]

Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.

Genuinely thought this might happen too.

[Hibs4185]

Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.

Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course

[Kato]

Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of courseHave you seen what he allowed onto X/Twitter since he bought it. Not to mention his own habit of liking horrendous bulls...

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[silverhibee]

Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course

Take it you don’t do twitter, he is knee deep in politics with his chat on his platform, very anti Biden and seems pro Trump, every hour is a post from him about immigration and how illegals are killing American citizens, bet you he employs plenty of them.

[Ozyhibby]

Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.

It’s a lot of cash even for billionaires to just give away.
I think he’ll find a way to get the bond but he’ll likely have to give up some of his assets. If he doesn’t then he is in big trouble.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240325/06157cfbf009a318e4ee786897cdb261.jpg

What a champ.[emoji23]


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[DaveF]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240325/06157cfbf009a318e4ee786897cdb261.jpg

What a champ.[emoji23]


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Kim Jong what's his name could not have written it better.

America needs it's collective head examined just by giving this lunatic the chance to be president.

[lapsedhibee]

America needs its collective head examined just by giving this lunatic the chance to be president.

In the UK people voted for a party which chose Liz Truss to be Prime Minister. Liz Truss. It's not just America.

[Bostonhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240325/06157cfbf009a318e4ee786897cdb261.jpg

What a champ.[emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe should get bare chested and ride around on a big white horse ala Mad Vlad Putin. It's what real champs do.

He is going to win the darts world championship today then become boxing's undisputed world welterweight champion straight after.

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[Kato]

He should get bare chested and ride around on a big white horse ala Mad Vlad Putin. It's what real champs do.



Being a blowhard about some dodgy golf round is the USA equivalent to a Russian President riding a horse bareback.

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[Bostonhibby]

Being a blowhard about some dodgy golf round is the USA equivalent to a Russian President riding a horse bareback.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkDonna is right up there with Kim Jong Un in the Strangest Shape in a Strange Shaped Suit and Matching Hairstyle World Championship.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/1772296186080244220?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Another 10 days to pay and bond amount reduced to $175m.


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[Oscar T Grouch]

Trump at the Manhattan DA criminal hearing in NY before dealing with his lack of bond for his civil case under Judge Engoron. Trump's lawyer after starting with diversionary tactics is getting torn a new one my Judge Jaun Merchan. Trump and his lawyer have been asked to cite cases where there was clear judicial misconduct by the Manhattan DA and by the Judge himself. Said the lawyers pattern of delays has been going on for months. Before going into a break Merchan stated the Manhattan DAs office went so far above and beyond what they were required to do, that "it is odd that we're even here"
Merchan after recalling the court offered a 30 day adjournment. In doing so he got Trump's lawyer to agree that certain things they have been saying are simply not true ( a tactic of giving him enough rope etc). He also pointed out that with Trump's lawyers experience in the SDNY prosecutors office he should know fine and well that he could have done what he is doing now, months ago. I think they are at another break now but this is not going well for Trump or his lawyer. I think NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175mil.

TLDR? NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175 million for civil fraud judgment while Judge Juan Merchan notes a "pattern" of discovery misconduct in Trump's criminal case.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Trump hush money trial to start on 15th April Donald Trump's $464m deadline and Stormy Daniels hearing - live updates - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68640752) from 17:03


Trump said afterwards

"they are doing things never done before, it happens in third world countries" and "the judge cannot go fast enough to get this started" Biden & his thugs etc etc etc, Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of Fraud related to an alleged cover-up of that payment in his accounts.



ermm probably because they've never had such a bent corrupt crooked PoS for an ex-president before, ya radge


and maybe if yer lawyers hadn't spent so many months with stalling tactics it would have been started a lot earlier, ya radge

[Bristolhibby]

In the UK people voted for a party which chose Liz Truss to be Prime Minister. Liz Truss. It's not just America.

TBF 30k “swivel eyed loons” that are the Tory party membership picked her. Nothing to do with the public.

But they also voted BREXIT and Johnson so what do I know?

J

[MKHIBEE]

TBF 30k “swivel eyed loons” that are the Tory party membership picked her. Nothing to do with the public.

But they also voted BREXIT and Johnson so what do I know?

J

You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

[Hibbyradge]

You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

The public didn't vote for Truss.

Or Sunak.

[Bristolhibby]

You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

I know, but specifically the last two Tory Prime ministers. It’s been a small cadre of Tory party members that have anointed them. I’d make a claim that they perhaps aren’t the best judges of who should be Prime Minister.

J

[lapsedhibee]

I know, but specifically the last two Tory Prime ministers. It’s been a small cadre of Tory party members that have anointed them. I’d make a claim that they perhaps aren’t the best judges of who should be Prime Minister.

J
Members didn't vote in Sunak. That was the Parliamentary Tory party, which the public voted in.

[Bristolhibby]

Members didn't vote in Sunak. That was the Parliamentary Tory party, which the public voted in.

No, members downselect and have a runoff until there’s two standing. It then goes out to the Tory Party members.

The swivel eyed loons then choose who from that two is their favourite.

We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The public most definitely have not chosen Truss or Sunak.

They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.

J

[Kato]

We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The coverage of those events had a tone as though they were choosing a song for Eurovision. Little chat of the state of the nation, all about: which candidate would acceptable to the party, how that candidate appeals to this demographic and how another "goes down well" with another. Absolutely living in a tiny Londoncentric media bubble, none of whom are affected by that parties' disastrous tenure.



They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.



Well, it was the straw that broke the camels back. For about 5 to 6 years his followers had all regurgitated his lies and backed him, until they couldn't do it any longer. He should never have been anywhere near parliamentary politics anyway.



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[lapsedhibee]

No, members downselect and have a runoff until there’s two standing. It then goes out to the Tory Party members.

The swivel eyed loons then choose who from that two is their favourite.

We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The public most definitely have not chosen Truss or Sunak.

They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.

J

Nope. What you describe happened with Truss. But with Sunak, the Parliamentary Party didn't trust the membership to choose their preferred candidate (Sunak). So they changed the rules for eligibility and no choice was ever presented to the swivel eyed loons outside Westminster.

How did the Conservatives elect a new leader?
Nominations

Under the rules of the latest leadership contest, candidates needed to have the support of at least 100 Conservative MPs (not including themselves).

Rishi Sunak was the only one to reach that level and so became the party leader.

As there are currently 357 Tory MPs, a maximum of three candidates could have met the threshold.

The other contenders - Boris Johnson and Penny Mordaunt - both withdrew from the process.

[Bristolhibby]

Nope. What you describe happened with Truss. But with Sunak, the Parliamentary Party didn't trust the membership to choose their preferred candidate (Sunak). So they changed the rules for eligibility and no choice was ever presented to the swivel eyed loons outside Westminster.

How did the Conservatives elect a new leader?
Nominations

Under the rules of the latest leadership contest, candidates needed to have the support of at least 100 Conservative MPs (not including themselves).

Rishi Sunak was the only one to reach that level and so became the party leader.

As there are currently 357 Tory MPs, a maximum of three candidates could have met the threshold.

The other contenders - Boris Johnson and Penny Mordaunt - both withdrew from the process.

Right enough. Forgot about that. Even worse. The nutters didn’t even get a choice with Dishy Rishi.

J

[greenginger]

Right enough. Forgot about that. Even worse. The nutters didn’t even get a choice with Dishy Rishi.

J

Was there any vote when Gordon Brown took over from Blair.

That long ago , I can’t remember

[J-C]

Came on to see what news about Trump and I see its all about Tories and who voted in their leader. I thought we already had a Tory thread.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240331/5e524c8c08391145895f1bffd8c16eb0.jpg

Totally normal.[emoji102]


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/fladems/status/1774893039477035424?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Great news for Biden in Florida.


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[DaveF]

Trump pays his 175m bond in the NY trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68709895

[silverhibee]

Trump pays his 175m bond in the NY trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68709895

Wonder who subbed him that amount..

[lapsedhibee]

Wonder who subbed him that amount..

The Los Angeles-based company Knight Insurance Group.

[Stevie Reid]

November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1774924729704472772?s=20

[JimBHibees]

November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1774924729704472772?s=20

Incredible it has got to this. Shameful lack of leadership over so many years

[Ozyhibby]

November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1774924729704472772?s=20

Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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[Stevie Reid]

Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.

Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.

His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.

[Stevie Reid]

Incredible it has got to this. Shameful lack of leadership over so many years

Totally agree, Jim.

[overdrive]

I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.

Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.

His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.

Yeah, I'm not convinced he'll lose either.

[Hibbyradge]

Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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I sincerely hope you're correct, but what makes you think that?

The polls have them neck and neck.

[Ozyhibby]

I sincerely hope you're correct, but what makes you think that?

The polls have them neck and neck.

It’s still very early for the polls to count for much. I think when it comes to the crunch Americans will vote for stability. No sitting President has ever lost with an economy performing as well as the US is just now.
The Biden campaign is better funded and organised and that will count for a lot as we move out of the summer. The Trump campaign is skint and he is using what he has for his legal bills.
In the end I think Biden wins handsomely.


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[degenerated]

Wonder who subbed him that amount..Putin, probably.

[Kato]

Putin, probably.It's a company similar to Wonga.

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[degenerated]

It's a company similar to Wonga.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkBizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.

[DaveF]

Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.

Even more weird is that they gave him the money. It's not like they will ever see that again.

[CropleyWasGod]

Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.


Even more weird is that they gave him the money. It's not like they will ever see that again.

He's not borrowing any money from them.

They are putting up a bond, which doesn't need any payment by anyone at the moment. It becomes payable if, for example, he defaults on any of the Court conditions. The bond is secured againt " a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds"

If he loses his appeal, it (and the rest) will be payable by DT. If he then skips the country, they will have to pay the 175m, and will recover it through their security.

[Oscar T Grouch]

He's not borrowing any money from them.

They are putting up a bond, which doesn't need any payment by anyone at the moment. It becomes payable if, for example, he defaults on any of the Court conditions. The bond is secured againt " a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds"

If he loses his appeal, it (and the rest) will be payable by DT. If he then skips the country, they will have to pay the 175m, and will recover it through their security.

He will need to pay a fee for their service, a normal bond fee is around 10%, which given the companies owner's background of sub prime lending and charging the highest interest rates allowed in each state, I would say is a bargain!

Just seen that NY Court has rejected the bond due to insufficient paperwork from the bond supplier, they have to resubmitted with more background on their finances. The person behind the company is a multibillionaire so I can't imagine this will be an issue but the bond remains un-posted.

[CropleyWasGod]

He will need to pay a fee for their service, a normal bond fee is around 10%, which given the companies owner's background of sub prime lending and charging the highest interest rates allowed in each state, I would say is a bargain!

Just seen that NY Court has rejected the bond due to insufficient paperwork from the bond supplier, they have to resubmitted with more background on their finances. The person behind the company is a multibillionaire so I can't imagine this will be an issue but the bond remains un-posted.

Of course he will. Again, though, if it isn't paid upfront it will be covered by the security. And, yeah, 10% is very low IMO.

[Bristolhibby]

I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.

Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.

His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.

It’s Mississippi, I wouldn’t read too much into that state. It’s as red as the blood of slaves spilled there over the years.

Will he try that in California or New York?

J

[Stevie Reid]

It’s Mississippi, I wouldn’t read too much into that state. It’s as red as the blood of slaves spilled there over the years.

Will he try that in California or New York?

J

I’m well aware of the abhorrent history of that state - and indeed it’s shameful present:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68606973

I know that there is no doubt who will win it in November.

I was using the law enforcement officers flanking him as evidence of how much of a powder keg this election will be if it doesn’t go Trump’s way.

For them to so openly stand alongside him, given all he has done - including inciting a riot that caused a the deaths of their fellow professionals - just says to me that all bets are off with regards to how many will react to a Trump loss.

[greenginger]

I’m well aware of the abhorrent history of that state - and indeed it’s shameful present:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68606973

I know that there is no doubt who will win it in November.

I was using the law enforcement officers flanking him as evidence of how much of a powder keg this election will be if it doesn’t go Trump’s way.

For them to so openly stand alongside him, given all he has done - including inciting a riot that caused a the deaths of their fellow professionals - just says to me that all bets are off with regards to how many will react to a Trump loss.


The voting history of Mississippi was strongly Democratic , winning every election except 2 from its foundation in 1801 to 1948.

https://www.mshistorynow.mdah.ms.gov/issue/presidential-elections-mississippis-voting-history#:~:text=Theme%20and%20Time%20Period&text=From%20the%20time%20Mississippi%20joined,in%2 0every%20election%20except%20two.

[Stevie Reid]

The voting history of Mississippi was strongly Democratic , winning every election except 2 from its foundation in 1801 to 1948.

https://www.mshistorynow.mdah.ms.gov/issue/presidential-elections-mississippis-voting-history#:~:text=Theme%20and%20Time%20Period&text=From%20the%20time%20Mississippi%20joined,in%2 0every%20election%20except%20two.

Yes but the Democratic Party has changed considerably over the centuries (as have the Republicans, obviously). So Mississippi used to vote for them because they were pro-slavery, and essentially stopped as soon as the Democrats ceased opposing Civil Rights.

[JimBHibees]

Yes but the Democratic Party has changed considerably over the centuries (as have the Republicans, obviously). So Mississippi used to vote for them because they were pro-slavery, and essentially stopped as soon as the Democrats ceased opposing Civil Rights.

Lincoln was a Republican was he not

[Kato]

Lincoln was a Republican was he nothttps://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties

A good article on how those parties switched ideologies.

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[JimBHibees]

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties

A good article on those parties switched ideologies.

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Cheers

[cabbageandribs1875]

O M F G

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[greenginger]

O M F G

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/436174228_8259777130705151_8544082584864246112_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=nEF56bx6Hv8Ab7Pms31&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfApQs9UyyqMKguFS_-LLsvEQIQzW3JvGWD3UGhGjyP02g&oe=661E8F65

The States are full on nuts who can’t live unless they get exactly what they want

Cher says she’ll have to leave the country if Trump gets back.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cher-leave-the-country-trump-reelected-guardian-interview-1234856398/

:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

The States are full on nuts who can’t live unless they get exactly what they want

Cher says she’ll have to leave the country if Trump gets back.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cher-leave-the-country-trump-reelected-guardian-interview-1234856398/

:greengrinThere must be a queue of countries waiting to offer Karen sanctuary should her particular utopia not exist after the next election?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

The States are full on nuts who can’t live unless they get exactly what they want

Cher says she’ll have to leave the country if Trump gets back.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cher-leave-the-country-trump-reelected-guardian-interview-1234856398/

:greengrin

wait, there's more


Juanita Broaddrick on X: "Pray for President Trump. Dear Lord, keep him safe. ���� https://t.co/NiAOyBXRfv" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1778819739126583615) and 22k have liked it, so far

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK-jIAUWwAAAooV?format=jpg&name=large

[J-C]

wait, there's more


Juanita Broaddrick on X: "Pray for President Trump. Dear Lord, keep him safe. ���� https://t.co/NiAOyBXRfv" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1778819739126583615) and 22k have liked it, so far

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK-jIAUWwAAAooV?format=jpg&name=large

They really are a bunch of fruitcakes

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/DevonESawa/status/1298147276515237888?t=zKV_bTORSUubHRrEN-sYkw&s=19

More apt

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[cabbageandribs1875]

apparently "Sleepy Don" has been dropping a few in the courthouse Something Stinks About Donald Trump’s Trial. It Might Be Trump. - LAmag (https://lamag.com/politics/something-stinks-about-donald-trumps-trial-it-might-be-trump)

(5) Hoodlum ���� on X: "JUST IN: Judge Juan Merchan doubles his gag order. “While it is Mr. Trump’s right to sleep through his trial, his snoring and farting will not be tolerated. Jurors and court personnel have the right to a noxious-free environment.” https://t.co/wTbW46tJk9" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/NotHoodlum/status/1781384734121054673)

:faf:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLjAf0aW0AAEmp3?format=jpg&name=large

[cabbageandribs1875]

i see the guy that set fire to himself yesterday outside the court has died

[AltheHibby]

[QUOTE=cabbageandribs1875;7636583]wait, there's more


Juanita Broaddrick on X: "Pray for President Trump. Dear Lord, keep him safe. ���� https://t.co/NiAOyBXRfv" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1778819739126583615) and 22k have liked it, so far


I believe that's Charles Manson.

[MKHIBEE]

[QUOTE=cabbageandribs1875;7636583]wait, there's more


Juanita Broaddrick on X: "Pray for President Trump. Dear Lord, keep him safe. ���� https://t.co/NiAOyBXRfv" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1778819739126583615) and 22k have liked it, so far


I believe that's Charles Manson.

I believe you are correct

[Stairway 2 7]

[QUOTE=cabbageandribs1875;7636583]wait, there's more


Juanita Broaddrick on X: "Pray for President Trump. Dear Lord, keep him safe. ���� https://t.co/NiAOyBXRfv" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1778819739126583615) and 22k have liked it, so far


I believe that's Charles Manson.

Nah someone photoshopped Manson on that pic to get it to go viral.
https://twitter.com/Oldman102090/status/1781839637117345813

The other pic is Brian he's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy

[Hibs4185]

https://twitter.com/Grasshopper2049/status/1783786034070990969/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1783786034070990969&currentTweetUser=Grasshopper2049

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant :hilarious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVrXCZXUAAX7uc?format=jpg&name=small

[JimBHibees]

brilliant :hilarious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVrXCZXUAAX7uc?format=jpg&name=small

Fantastic quote

[AltheHibby]

brilliant :hilarious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVrXCZXUAAX7uc?format=jpg&name=small

Fun aside:

https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1268184268355899393?t=J7mecZJP8NluKKMCzw5B2g&s=19

Take a look at the reply from three year...

[cabbageandribs1875]

great sense of humour Donny


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMluq10XMAAr6WE?format=jpg&name=medium


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM51x6hboAAk8MW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[cabbageandribs1875]

Fun aside:

https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1268184268355899393?t=J7mecZJP8NluKKMCzw5B2g&s=19

Take a look at the reply from three year...


:hilarious

[Stairway 2 7]

Scroll down if you want a summary of Stormy Daniels testimony, beware involves old man getting spanked with a magazine 🤢

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1787820117176275031

[Keith_M]

Scroll down if you want a summary of Stormy Daniels testimony, beware involves old man getting spanked with a magazine 🤢

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1787820117176275031


I read that and now feel very grubby

:eek:

[Stairway 2 7]

I read that and now feel very grubby

:eek:

Sorry 😞 😆

[lapsedhibee]

I read that and now feel very grubby

:eek:

Not sure that bit's actually true, because Trump called out "b*llsh*t" at that point.
:slipper:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Eric Trump on Fox News: "we're a good family, never have done anything wrong"

i'm not sure if he was smiling though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNYxdVdXoAArJ9t?format=jpg&name=large

[cabbageandribs1875]

the smallest 25k ever :greengrin (4) Ashley Votes Blue ☮️ on X: "Crowd Size: Taylor Swift had a crowd of 70,000 people attend her concert at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. If you think Trump had 25,000 people attend his Bronx rally, then you can’t seem to comprehend math. #MAGACultMorons #FreshResists https://t.co/V1JvMBUSYF" / X (https://x.com/KuckelmanAshley/status/1794059324571955583)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOXHcjRWAAEA80m?format=jpg&name=large

[Hibs4185]

Verdict due shortly in the hush money case

[Ozyhibby]

Verdict due shortly in the hush money case

Has to be guilty if it’s this quick?[emoji2369]


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[Bristolhibby]

Guilty!

[Northernhibee]

Guilty!

On every. Single. Count.

[Berwickhibby]

Oh Dear, How Sad, Never Mind :wink:

[Northernhibee]

Listening to that speech, he’s a dangerous man.

And a crook.

[JimBHibees]

Assume this means he can’t be president

[Northernhibee]

Assume this means he can’t be president

He can, but he can’t vote for himself.

[Ozyhibby]

Interesting scenario. If he is not sent to jail then it’s special treatment. Cohen has already done time for this.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

some cool stuff on twitterland (2) "LOCK HIM UP" - Search / X (https://x.com/search?q=%22LOCK%20HIM%20UP%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GO2yorGWEAEZYoD?format=jpg&name=large

[Bostonhibby]

If he goes to prison do the secret service men assigned to guard him as ex president have to go with him?

Just listened to the bloated crooks deranged rant, not once does he even touch on the unanimous view of the 12 jurors, some of whom his legal team helped select. He has had due process and is now hoping to bully his way out of it

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[Mon Dieu4]

Assume this means he can’t be president

You can run for president from jail, nothing in the law to stop it, the only real rules are you have to be a minimum of 35 and a US Citizen

[overdrive]

I actually think this will just galvanise the nut jobs that support him and the nut jobs that are on the fence.

He spraffs the narrative that everyone is against him. This just supports that narrative and will get the nut jobs out to vote.

[Northernhibee]

I actually think this will just galvanise the nut jobs that support him and the nut jobs that are on the fence.

He spraffs the narrative that everyone is against him. This just supports that narrative and will get the nut jobs out to vote.

It’s got the potential to be bloody and destabilising. Look at the Capitol riots.

[RyeSloan]

Interesting scenario. If he is not sent to jail then it’s special treatment. Cohen has already done time for this.


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Not quite. According to the Washington Post the felony is the lowest rank there is and while there is a potential for a jail sentence the lack of any previous criminal convictions would make that unlikely.

As for what it means for Trump..well he’ll appeal so probably get a stay on the sentence and as others have suggested probably just firms up his support base in his favour all the more.

Importantly though polling has suggested that any conviction in this case might result in a 2-4% swing away from him…which considering how remarkably (in more ways than one!) tight the race is, that might prove crucial.

[stokesmessiah]

Not quite. According to the Washington Post the felony is the lowest rank there is and while there is a potential for a jail sentence the lack of any previous criminal convictions would make that unlikely.

As for what it means for Trump..well he’ll appeal so probably get a stay on the sentence and as others have suggested probably just firms up his support base in his favour all the more.

Importantly though polling has suggested that any conviction in this case might result in a 2-4% swing away from him…which considering how remarkably (in more ways than one!) tight the race is, that might prove crucial.

God help the US when he doesn’t win the presidential vote - not sure his supporters will stand for him being “robbed” a second time.

[Stairway 2 7]

Will be interesting to see the first polls, he's still 4/5 favourite with the bookies to win which is nuts. Boris having his cake party in lockdown and defending his MP Owen Paterson brought him down. There's no way a PM hopeful loses multiple court cases (one against a porn star another getting a criminal conviction) gets to win an election in the UK or most countries. It just shows how divided the US is and down the conspiracy rabbit hole

[Hibrandenburg]

Will be interesting to see the first polls, he's still 4/5 favourite with the bookies to win which is nuts. Boris having his cake party in lockdown and defending his MP Owen Paterson brought him down. There's no way a PM hopeful loses multiple court cases (one against a porn star another getting a criminal conviction) gets to win an election in the UK or most countries. It just shows how divided the US is and down the conspiracy rabbit hole

The least worse candidate will win in the US, it's a sad indication of how ****ed-up their electorate system is.

[JimBHibees]

Listening to that speech, he’s a dangerous man.

And a crook.

Has always been that

[JimBHibees]

You can run for president from jail, nothing in the law to stop it, the only real rules are you have to be a minimum of 35 and a US Citizen

Ok that seems sensible :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Will be interesting to see the first polls, he's still 4/5 favourite with the bookies to win which is nuts. Boris having his cake party in lockdown and defending his MP Owen Paterson brought him down. There's no way a PM hopeful loses multiple court cases (one against a porn star another getting a criminal conviction) gets to win an election in the UK or most countries. It just shows how divided the US is and down the conspiracy rabbit hole

Bizarrely this will likely help him. Incredible really

[marinello59]

He said he’s very innocent though. If he had just said he was innocent I’d not be questioning it but very has me thinking. :greengrin

[Bristolhibby]

It often gets lost what he’s actually been convicted of by a jury of his peers.

He took campaign money, to pay off a porn star that he was ****ging so she wouldn’t go public. That exposure would have harmed his chances of becoming president in the first place.

How evangelical Christians can stand behind him with a straight face.

J

[Ozyhibby]

The least worse candidate will win in the US, it's a sad indication of how ****ed-up their electorate system is.

I don’t understand this? Biden has had a successful presidency by any metric?


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[Bristolhibby]

I don’t understand this? Biden has had a successful presidency by any metric?


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Aye but he’s old, sleepy Joe, etc.

All nonsense, but that’s the MAGA narrative.

Biden needs to get out there and Trump his successes.

J

[Moulin Yarns]

As a convicted criminal there are a number of countries that he can no longer visit, how could a president carry out his duties?

[Bostonhibby]

As a convicted criminal there are a number of countries that he can no longer visit, how could a president carry out his duties?He will just put the barriers up (no pun intended) and make his next term even more inward looking, all whilst claiming it's to make america great again-like his last term.

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[lapsedhibee]

As a convicted criminal there are a number of countries that he can no longer visit
Hoping Mexico's one of them.

[Bostonhibby]

Hoping Mexico's one of them.Maybe the Mexicans should build a wall to keep convicted felons like him out?

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[CropleyWasGod]

Aye but he’s old, sleepy Joe, etc.

All nonsense, but that’s the MAGA narrative.

Biden needs to get out there and Trump his successes.

J

I think Biden might have made a mistake by politicising his comments on the verdict. It wll galvanise Trump's supporters, and might sway the waverers.

A simple "American justice prevails..." type statement would have been enough.

[Bristolhibby]

I think Biden might have made a mistake by politicising his comments on the verdict. It wll galvanise Trump's supporters, and might sway the waverers.

A simple "American justice prevails..." type statement would have been enough.

What did he say? Not seen it.

J

[Bristolhibby]

Maybe the Mexicans should build a wall to keep convicted felons like him out?

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Surely there would be some countries that he could not enter as he is a convicted felon? He would have to declare that.

J

[Bostonhibby]

Surely there would be some countries that he could not enter as he is a convicted felon? He would have to declare that.

JWho knows?

The problem would be getting him to realise and accept it. Never deals with the facts of any situation that negatively affects him. He prefers to simply shout it down under the conspiracy banner and utter the same statements around him being the only one who can save America from whatever it is it needs saved from. Possibly convicted divisive sociopathic crooks?

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[Jim44]

It often gets lost what he’s actually been convicted of by a jury of his peers.

He took campaign money, to pay off a porn star that he was ****ging so she wouldn’t go public. That exposure would have harmed his chances of becoming president in the first place.

How evangelical Christians can stand behind him with a straight face.

J

I’m not so sure this would have influenced any of these people.
Before the 2018 election, I remember having a discussion with an American girl, married to a distant relative here in Scotland. Her parents live in USA and are staunch, dyed in the wool Republicans and devout Christians. She was telling me that they were avid Trump supporters and that she regularly had discussions with them about their folly in supporting him. They wouldn’t hear a negative word against him and in furious desperation, she asked her father what would he would do if Trump raped her mother. He replied that he would turn the other cheek and still vote for him. That’s the extent of the insanity of these clowns. That’s an unbelievable but true story.

[Hibs4185]

Can Hollyrood pass a bill banning convicted US presidents?

Then the orange fud can never visit again

[Moulin Yarns]

Surely there would be some countries that he could not enter as he is a convicted felon? He would have to declare that.

J

That's what I said, rumours that it includes the UK and Canada

[Jim44]

Can Hollyrood pass a bill banning convicted US presidents?

Then the orange fud can never visit again

………and prohibit him from owning property in this country. Mind you he would find a way round this, legal or otherwise.

[McD]

I’m not so sure this would have influenced any of these people.
Before the 2018 election, I remember having a discussion with an American girl, married to a distant relative here in Scotland. Her parents live in USA and are staunch, dyed in the wool Republicans and devout Christians. She was telling me that they were avid Trump supporters and that she regularly had discussions with them about their folly in supporting him. They wouldn’t hear a negative word against him and in furious desperation, she asked her father what would he would do if Trump raped her mother. He replied that he would turn the other cheek and still vote for him. That’s the extent of the insanity of these clowns. That’s an unbelievable but true story.



That’s terrifying, cultish even

[Bristolhibby]

I honestly have no idea about America.

The mad thing is it’s happening over here too.

I’m convinced that Russian backing of Trump and BREXIT is Putins way of destabilising the west and “beating” them without even having to fight them.

Trump is Mana from Heaven for Putin. What’s worrying is that half of America are siding with Putin and want to cut of assistance to Ukraine.

If Trump wins, Ukraine falls, simple as that.

J

[Hibrandenburg]

I don’t understand this? Biden has had a successful presidency by any metric?


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He certainly has but his age and health obviously deteriorating will worry some voters. If I was American then I'd be voting Biden based on he's a much better choice than Trump, but I refuse to believe that either are the best candidates from their respective parties for the job.

[CropleyWasGod]

Can Hollyrood pass a bill banning convicted US presidents?

Then the orange fud can never visit again

That's not in Holyrood's power.

[CropleyWasGod]

What did he say? Not seen it.

J

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/30/biden-reaction-trump-verdict/

[BroxburnHibee]

Trump just showed again with that outburst why there is zero chance of him accepting another loss to Biden.

I fear what will happen

[Bostonhibby]

Trump just showed again with that outburst why there is zero chance of him accepting another loss to Biden.

I fear what will happenYep his sociopathic behaviour means he really isn't interested in how the Americam people express their view, whether they are jury members or just voters who don't vote for him.

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[marinello59]

That was quite the speech there from Trump. Bonkers.

[Jim44]

That was quite the speech there from Trump. Bonkers.

It’s tragic, however, that 50% of the USA electorate is bonkers. I honestly think that Trump will sail back into the White House.

[RyeSloan]

That was quite the speech there from Trump. Bonkers.

It’s truly and utterly beyond description. The same goes for my ability to comprehend that anyone, and I mean anyone, would think this guy should be a President of anything no matter the biggest economic and military power in the world!

To then see that he has half the damn country prepared to vote for exactly that just fries my brain to a cinder.

On a side note it was quite a shock to hear that some of the jury had been ‘literally crucified’…no wonder Trump is worried. If that’s what the Judge did to the jury you have to wonder what sentence he’ll give to the guilty party!

[Ozyhibby]

………and prohibit him from owning property in this country. Mind you he would find a way round this, legal or otherwise.

Imagine a law banning criminals buying London property? [emoji102]


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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-travel-ban-1906686

Could be difficult being POTUS when you can't travel to a lot of countries.

[JimBHibees]

He certainly has but his age and health obviously deteriorating will worry some voters. If I was American then I'd be voting Biden based on he's a much better choice than Trump, but I refuse to believe that either are the best candidates from their respective parties for the job.

Pretty much sums the situation perfectly

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-travel-ban-1906686

Could be difficult being POTUS when you can't travel to a lot of countries.

Exceptions would always be made.


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[Kato]

Imagine a law banning criminals buying London property? [emoji102]


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[overdrive]

Absolutely disgusting the positive reception he’s getting at UFC 302 tonight. They absolutely love the cretin

[overdrive]

Absolutely disgusting the positive reception he’s getting at UFC 302 tonight. They absolutely love the cretin

I’ve just had my Instagram account restricted for saying what I did in my post above here. Apparently it is offensive and makes people feel inferior

[cabbageandribs1875]

Steve Bannon "Victory or Death" (2) Joyce Alene on X: "Steve Bannon really doesn't want to go to prison: "If they steal this election...this republic ends. Are you prepared to fight? Are you prepared to give it all? Are you prepared to leave it all on the battlefield...it’s very simple: victory or death.”" / X (https://x.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1803088699413934556)

both him and Trump truly are whipping up the brain dead for violence if Trump loses


and they two evil b******s will be off hiding if/when it does kick off


when did the nasty people start infiltrating the GOP, the likes of Marjorie-Green, Boebert, Cruz, etc etc etc

[Keith_M]

I've got a terrible feeling that this thread will soon have to be renamed to...

'(Soon to be) President (again) Donald Trump'

[Hibs4185]

I've got a terrible feeling that this thread will soon have to be renamed to...

'(Soon to be) President (again) Donald Trump'

The whole world would *hit itself (apart from Putin).

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh my Louisiana requires display of Ten Commandments in all classrooms (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/louisiana-requires-display-of-ten-commandments-in-all-classrooms/ar-BB1ox9wE?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

[DaveF]

Presidential debate on now (wide awake for some reason so watching it) and from the portion I've seen, Trump is being his usual crackpot self, but sadly Biden just looks like an old man who often forgets words mid sentence.

What a terrible choice for the US public.

[Hibrandenburg]

Presidential debate on now (wide awake for some reason so watching it) and from the portion I've seen, Trump is being his usual crackpot self, but sadly Biden just looks like an old man who often forgets words mid sentence.

What a terrible choice for the US public.

Biden might be making complete sense but his age, obvious degenerative illness and demeanor will concern many voters. That was a hard watch and many Americans will be asking themselves if Biden is physically and mentally up to the job.

[Stairway 2 7]

67% of CNN watchers say Trump won and all their anchors are slatting him, if he can't win CNN viewers what chance does he have. Trump talked nonsense as usual but he wasn't challenged and was confident in his pish. Biden has to decide what comes first him or the Democrats winning.

[DaveF]

67% of CNN watchers say Trump won and all their anchors are slatting him, if he can't win CNN viewers what chance does he have. Trump talked nonsense as usual but he wasn't challenged and was confident in his pish. Biden has to decide what comes first him or the Democrats winning.

Yep, based on last night Trump will stroll to victory as Biden was terrible. That's not to say Trump was good - he was a babbling ******** - but he was a babbling ******** who didn't look like he was on day release from a care home.

[Stairway 2 7]

Look at this answer awful

https://x.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1806533440130691159

A few Dem representatives openly saying he has to go now, they shouldn't have been in this situation. Not much time for a new candidate to build momentum but I think we will see movement this week

[jamie_1875]

Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?

[Stairway 2 7]

Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?

He needs to step aside himself as he's already got 99% of the votes to be nominated again, they can't go against that

[marinello59]

Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?

He is still not the official candidate so could be replaced. Why those around him, in particular his family, haven’t stepped in and told him he needs to step down for his own good is beyond me.

[Stairway 2 7]

He is still not the official candidate so could be replaced. Why those around him, in particular his family, haven’t stepped in and told him he needs to step down for his own good is beyond me.

It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/can-democrats-replace-joe-biden-ballot-rcna159374

[Ozyhibby]

It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/can-democrats-replace-joe-biden-ballot-rcna159374

Let’s hope he does. He’s a decent man and if the right people approach him then I believe he’ll stand aside.
It can’t be Harris who steps in though.


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[marinello59]

It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/can-democrats-replace-joe-biden-ballot-rcna159374

No it’s not but it needs to be done.