(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Rocky]

How do you know this was the test ?

It's widely reported that this is the test plus it clearly matches his description of it. Honestly, if you want to blindly support him that's entirely your prerogative. But you've got yourself into a position where you're praising him for his performance in a test and you don't know what the test is yourself.

[hibsbollah]

How do you know this was the test ?

I think the one on the right is a camel. A bit stuck on the middle one though.

[Rocky]

I think the one on the right is a camel. A bit stuck on the middle one though.

Can't tell you, you're not bigly smart enough to be in the know.

[hibeedc]

It's widely reported that this is the test plus it clearly matches his description of it. Honestly, if you want to blindly support him that's entirely your prerogative. But you've got yourself into a position where you're praising him for his performance in a test and you don't know what the test is yourself.
Yep I made a tit of that. Should have looked into before commenting. Moving swiftly on :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNUG9dJsCA

[ballengeich]

Because Trump himself said so..

but how do you know that his recall is accurate?

[Hibs Class]

Fair enough but that is not what happened. Five words were read out to him once and he was asked to repeat them in order. There is no memorise these words because we are going to test your memory later. Also it is one question in a series of questions, more info from the test in your head.You had the benefit of hearing the sequence of words a number of times in that short clip.

Saw this short CNN clip posted several times. Supposedly the last few, extra hard questions.

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1285279346077229057?s=21

[hibsbollah]

Can't tell you, you're not bigly smart enough to be in the know.

Haha loser, I knew all the time. It is a Rhino. R-I-N-O. A very nice animal. He’s doing a spectacular job. I don’t know, people tell me he’s Possibly the greatest animal. He’s an African Rhino. I have a great relationship with African Rhinos, you’ve probably heard, I’ve been the best president for Rhinos since maybe Abe Lincoln.

[Rocky]

Haha loser, I knew all the time. It is a Rhino. R-I-N-O. A very nice animal. He’s doing a spectacular job. I don’t know, people tell me he’s Possibly the greatest animal. He’s an African Rhino. I have a great relationship with African Rhinos, you’ve probably heard, I’ve been the best president for Rhinos since maybe Abe Lincoln.
Gawd damn this here libtard just got owned. Gon cry into ma snowflake blanket

[Mibbes Aye]

Haha loser, I knew all the time. It is a Rhino. R-I-N-O. A very nice animal. He’s doing a spectacular job. I don’t know, people tell me he’s Possibly the greatest animal. He’s an African Rhino. I have a great relationship with African Rhinos, you’ve probably heard, I’ve been the best president for Rhinos since maybe Abe Lincoln.

I just wanna say, I know Hibsbollah, I hear good things about him, great things, beautiful things. I don’t know him but people tell me things. Great guy.

I have done great deals. I don’t know but people tell me that. Deals with rhinos. Really beautiful deals. The best deals with rhinos ever.

Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe and Lying James Comey will tell you FAKE truth. I am super confident in Hibsbollah and the rhinos, they are doing a great job for me. That guy who was in here before me, people say he wasn’t really American. I don’t know about that, that’s what people say. He wasn’t American they say. I guess if people are saying that then it must be true.

[Callum_62]

See if Biden repeated 6 words in order 20 minutes apart

Would you all agree he's the man to lead America?

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[RyeSloan]

See if Biden repeated 6 words in order 20 minutes apart

Would you all agree he's the man to lead America?

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That seems to be the bar that has been set!

[Hiber-nation]

I just wanna say, I know Hibsbollah, I hear good things about him, great things, beautiful things. I don’t know him but people tell me things. Great guy.

I have done great deals. I don’t know but people tell me that. Deals with rhinos. Really beautiful deals. The best deals with rhinos ever.

Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe and Lying James Comey will tell you FAKE truth. I am super confident in Hibsbollah and the rhinos, they are doing a great job for me. That guy who was in here before me, people say he wasn’t really American. I don’t know about that, that’s what people say. He wasn’t American they say. I guess if people are saying that then it must be true.

😂

9 out of 10...missing a few more words in CAPITAL LETTERS

[Mibbes Aye]

😂

9 out of 10...missing a few more words in CAPITAL LETTERS

I am still refining it. Need to watch a bit more Alec Baldwin and work on the caps :greengrin

[HibernianJK]

Think the point of the whole thing was to raise questions about Biden.

Then it has spectacularly backfired.

[hibsbollah]

I just wanna say, I know Hibsbollah, I hear good things about him, great things, beautiful things. I don’t know him but people tell me things. Great guy.

I have done great deals. I don’t know but people tell me that. Deals with rhinos. Really beautiful deals. The best deals with rhinos ever.

Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe and Lying James Comey will tell you FAKE truth. I am super confident in Hibsbollah and the rhinos, they are doing a great job for me. That guy who was in here before me, people say he wasn’t really American. I don’t know about that, that’s what people say. He wasn’t American they say. I guess if people are saying that then it must be true.

I did a bunch of tests, they had 30 or 35 questions, like a memory question, like you go Person, Man, Woman, Camera, TV. So they say can you repeat that, I say yeah. Crazy Bernie and Sleepy Joe don’t do that. And they say, that’s amazing, how do you do that? And I say, I don’t know, I have a good memory, some people say I’m a genius. And Nasty Miss Ocasio-Cortez? She doesn’t do those tests. And the alpacas? Murderers and rapists, and some I assume are good people.

[Mikey]

The Economist runs an ongoing forecast of who is most likely to win in November, based on various polls, and at the moment they have Biden at 93%......

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

[Ozyhibby]

The Economist runs an ongoing forecast of who is most likely to win in November, based on various polls, and at the moment they have Biden at 93%......

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

And he isn’t even having to campaign.[emoji23]


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1286687854823903232?s=21


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/25/nation/bipartisan-group-secretly-gathered-game-out-contested-trump-biden-election-it-wasnt-pretty/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Good ‘what if’ article on if Trump contests the result.


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[mjhibby]

Well I'm sorry but if you really honestly believe that Trump's ability to remember 5 words in a row is a sign that he is therefore competent to lead the world's biggest democracy, then I don't think I can help you. He has shown in thousands (I thought before writing that, but yes thousands) of other ways that he is uniquely unsuited to the role. The fact that you and - I guess many other Trump supporters - don't recognise this is a sign that something significant is badly damaged in the US. The man is an incompetent fool, and everyone else in the world can see it.

And I do apologise for what you think is a cheap jibe, but I meant that the fact you see no wrong is a big part of the problem.

He is an affront to democracy. He is lowering the level of debate to such a base level and playing on folks tribal instincts kicking in. It’s utterly tragic and depressing in 2020 that the so called worlds policemen is run by an utter buffoon who makes Johnson look like a genius. I feel sorry for the yanks having to listen to his nonsense every day.

[McD]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/25/nation/bipartisan-group-secretly-gathered-game-out-contested-trump-biden-election-it-wasnt-pretty/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Good ‘what if’ article on if Trump contests the result.


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that’s really interesting to read, and I doubt it will be the last time it will be explored in the next few months.

actually quite frightening that an incumbent could refuse to accept the election outcome, and what they could do prior to the Election Day and afterwards to cling to power.

i wonder if, once trump is no longer in power, there will be a look at amending their constitution to address such a scenario

[BroxburnHibee]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/25/nation/bipartisan-group-secretly-gathered-game-out-contested-trump-biden-election-it-wasnt-pretty/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Good ‘what if’ article on if Trump contests the result.


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Good read that.

[Hibrandenburg]

He is an affront to democracy. He is lowering the level of debate to such a base level and playing on folks tribal instincts kicking in. It’s utterly tragic and depressing in 2020 that the so called worlds policemen is run by an utter buffoon who makes Johnson look like a genius. I feel sorry for the yanks having to listen to his nonsense every day.


:agree:

I'm more concerned about what and who comes after Trump. Trump has pathed the way for a real fascist by making fascist behaviour socially acceptable in mainstream politics in the US, someone with a bit of brains and charisma could use that to great effect in the near future.

[Ozyhibby]

I really think the next president has to fix all the holes in their constitution over executive power. That should be the most important job over the next four years.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

:agree:

I'm more concerned about what and who comes after Trump. Trump has pathed the way for a real fascist by making fascist behaviour socially acceptable in mainstream politics in the US, someone with a bit of brains and charisma could use that to great effect in the near future.

Indeed. I think it's in the balance as to whether Trump represents the dying fury of racist America or whether he will pave the way for a far more dangerous demagogue. It seems it's in the balance just now. Trump's popularity with the lowest common denominator is disheartening, but American culture is very strange in many ways.

[neil7908]

Indeed. I think it's in the balance as to whether Trump represents the dying fury of racist America or whether he will pave the way for a far more dangerous demagogue. It seems it's in the balance just now. Trump's popularity with the lowest common denominator is disheartening, but American culture is very strange in many ways.

Good point. Trump is a moron - imagine how much more dangerous the next one will be if they can capture a section of the electorates attention like he has and also be smart enough to not tell people to ingest bleach. Pretty scary prospect.

[mjhibby]

:agree:

I'm more concerned about what and who comes after Trump. Trump has pathed the way for a real fascist by making fascist behaviour socially acceptable in mainstream politics in the US, someone with a bit of brains and charisma could use that to great effect in the near future.

Agreed. The fact that most folk followed the govt instructions in the main with Covid shows it’s easier than folk think from an extreme president to do as he pleases. Trump constantly tries to chip away at democracy or as he sees it, anybody who disagrees with him. The concept of democratic and accountable govt seems to me to being eroded by small steps. As you say it doesn’t bear thinking about if an extreme of left or right took hold in the USA or here. As Bret weinstein constantly points out, it’s naive in the extreme to think it can’t happen. The utter lies during brexit and trumps making it up as you go along is a warning that should a despot with charm and charisma take power and say the right things then we could well up in a very bleak place.

[Colr]

Good read that.

He may not need to. Lest we forget:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[hibsbollah]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/25/nation/bipartisan-group-secretly-gathered-game-out-contested-trump-biden-election-it-wasnt-pretty/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Good ‘what if’ article on if Trump contests the result.


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That’s an excellent article for referring back to. Very informative.

It’s a strange position for a committed leftie like myself but the US represents the best hope for the survival of democratic government as a concept. This election and it’s aftermath is hugely important. We see Putin changing the constitution to make himself president for life. Xi doing the same in China. Modis Hindu nationalists in India. Governments on various stages of conversion to fascism in Brazil Hungary Poland the Philippines. Europe fraying at the seams with Brexit and a rise of populist intolerance in the East. If Trump really does refuse to walk in the event of a November defeat we might be seeing the end of pluralism, concepts of the collective good, the electoral process itself. Most of which was a twentieth century construct anyway.

When I look back at the early 80s when Cold War paranoia was at its height, it seems with hindsight to be a much safer and secure world to what’s being played out now.

[Ozyhibby]

He may not need to. Lest we forget:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

That shows a Clinton lead in the polls of between 3 and 5%. Biden currently shows a lead between 10 and 15%. Big difference.


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[lapsedhibee]

That shows a Clinton lead in the polls of between 3 and 5%. Biden currently shows a lead between 10 and 15%. Big difference.

Do we know if Russian bots have started work in earnest yet, or are they still just limbering up? :dunno:

[hibsbollah]

That shows a Clinton lead in the polls of between 3 and 5%. Biden currently shows a lead between 10 and 15%. Big difference.


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...and Clinton did indeed win the popular vote, so the polls were broadly accurate in that sense.

[JeMeSouviens]

...and Clinton did indeed win the popular vote, so the polls were broadly accurate in that sense.

:agree:

The average national poll lead for HRC was 3.2% and she "won" the popular vote by 2.1%.

Biden is currently about 10% ahead in national polls which, even allowing for swing state vagaries, is landslide territory. Something big has to change for Trump to win from here.

[Keith_M]

:agree:

The average national poll lead for HRC was 3.2% and she "won" the popular vote by 2.1%.

Biden is currently about 10% ahead in national polls which, even allowing for swing state vagaries, is landslide territory. Something big has to change for Trump to win from here.


Usually a patriotic war is the go-to event for a struggling leader. Without the Falklands war, Thatcher would have been out on her ear in 1983.

Not sure who Trump would be able to start a war with just now. Mexico, maybe?

[grunt]

Not sure who Trump would be able to start a war with just now. Mexico, maybe?He currently seems to be at war with his own people.

[hibsbollah]

He currently seems to be at war with his own people.

:agree: The Enemy Within. A well played out tactic to divide and rule a country for political gain. Its probably easier and cheaper than nuking China, anyway.

[Ozyhibby]

NEW @MorningConsult Poll:

Colorado:
Biden +13

Virginia:
Biden +10

Michigan:
Biden +10

Arizona:
Biden +7

Pennsylvania:
Biden +7

Wisconsin:
Biden +7

Florida:
Biden +3

Minnesota:
Biden +3

Texas:
Biden +2

Georgia:
Biden +1

North Carolina:
Tied

Ohio:
Trump +3

Biden only needs 2 or 3 of these states to win the presidency. If Trump wins from here then it’s the biggest comeback in history.


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[Smartie]

NEW @MorningConsult Poll:

Colorado:
Biden +13

Virginia:
Biden +10

Michigan:
Biden +10

Arizona:
Biden +7

Pennsylvania:
Biden +7

Wisconsin:
Biden +7

Florida:
Biden +3

Minnesota:
Biden +3

Texas:
Biden +2

Georgia:
Biden +1

North Carolina:
Tied

Ohio:
Trump +3

Biden only needs 2 or 3 of these states to win the presidency. If Trump wins from here then it’s the biggest comeback in history.


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He needs a war.

That will be a worrying thought until he is removed from office.

[Bostonhibby]

He needs a war.

That will be a worrying thought until he is removed from office.He'll probably declare war on California. People tell him it's a nasty country, they tell him it's bad.

Them damn Californikans are worse than those Mexiconianns he was going to sort out at the beginning of his first term.

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[Colr]

He'll probably declare war on California. People tell him it's a nasty country, they tell him it's bad.

Them damn Californikans are worse than those Mexiconianns he was going to sort out at the beginning of his first term.

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Lotta bad hombres.

[Bostonhibby]

Lotta bad hombres.Yep, people tell him them hombers are bad peoples. Build a wall to keep the hombers out could be a campaign slogan.

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[Sir David Gray]

NEW @MorningConsult Poll:

Colorado:
Biden +13

Virginia:
Biden +10

Michigan:
Biden +10

Arizona:
Biden +7

Pennsylvania:
Biden +7

Wisconsin:
Biden +7

Florida:
Biden +3

Minnesota:
Biden +3

Texas:
Biden +2

Georgia:
Biden +1

North Carolina:
Tied

Ohio:
Trump +3

Biden only needs 2 or 3 of these states to win the presidency. If Trump wins from here then it’s the biggest comeback in history.


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Trump winning in Ohio is an interesting one.

Not since 1960 has a candidate won in Ohio and failed to get elected as President and it's only happened on four occasions since 1860.

[hibsbollah]

He'll probably declare war on California. People tell him it's a nasty country, they tell him it's bad.

Them damn Californikans are worse than those Mexiconianns he was going to sort out at the beginning of his first term.

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California, the enemy within. And Portland. Very bad people.
Thatcher showed the way going to war against South Yorkshire and Merseyside of course so let’s not get too anti American about it.

[hibsbollah]

Trump winning in Ohio is an interesting one.

Not since 1960 has a candidate won in Ohio and failed to get elected as President and it's only happened on four occasions since 1860.

I personally think stats like that owe more to historical coincidence than any genuine ‘bell weather’ status in Ohio. If he gets pasted in the big electoral colleges like California, Texas, Florida, Michigan it won’t matter what Clint in Cleveland says, he’ll be out.

[Bostonhibby]

California, the enemy within. And Portland. Very bad people.
Thatcher showed the way going to war against South Yorkshire and Merseyside of course so let’s not get too anti American about it.Yes, it will be interesting to see how Americans respond at the ballot box to how Trump deals with internal matters affecting the "homeland".

Don't get me started on Thatcher...[emoji2959]

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[marinello59]

California, the enemy within. And Portland. Very bad people.
Thatcher showed the way going to war against South Yorkshire and Merseyside of course so let’s not get too anti American about it.

Good point. We are still waiting for the long overdue enquiry in to what happened at Orgreave. Trumps behaviour here is nothing new.

[Mibbes Aye]

I personally think stats like that owe more to historical coincidence than any genuine ‘bell weather’ status in Ohio. If he gets pasted in the big electoral colleges like California, Texas, Florida, Michigan it won’t matter what Clint in Cleveland says, he’ll be out.

Texas would be a massive game changer, . Chuck in Florida, assume California is a given and it looks like landslide territory. Texas has been red since Reagan, in maybe no small part because of those good ol’ Bush boys being on most of the various tickets. Gaining Texas would possibly make Florida redundant in the equation, in terms of getting over the line. Be nice to see an electoral college slaughter though, on a par with 1984 but this time for the good guys (or less worse guys!)

Still no announcement on VP though that might wait until the virtual convention. It is surely between Abrams and Harris. I wouldn’t rule out Trump being Trump and taking Pence off his ticket, even though that is the only security he has with the religious right vote. It is Trump though. Jared for VP!

[Tobias Funke]

Texas would be a massive game changer, . Chuck in Florida, assume California is a given and it looks like landslide territory. Texas has been red since Reagan, in maybe no small part because of those good ol’ Bush boys being on most of the various tickets. Gaining Texas would possibly make Florida redundant in the equation, in terms of getting over the line. Be nice to see an electoral college slaughter though, on a par with 1984 but this time for the good guys (or less worse guys!)

Still no announcement on VP though that might wait until the virtual convention. It is surely between Abrams and Harris. I wouldn’t rule out Trump being Trump and taking Pence off his ticket, even though that is the only security he has with the religious right vote. It is Trump though. Jared for VP!

Listened to a podcast interview with one of the Democratic nominees (Beta O Rourke I think). He said if Biden secures Texas there is no pathway for Trump to win, he’s toast if that state turns Blue.

[Mibbes Aye]

Listened to a podcast interview with one of the Democratic nominees (Beta O Rourke I think). He said if Biden secures Texas there is no pathway for Trump to win, he’s toast if that state turns Blue.

It is fascinating because Biden has publicly committed to a women running mate. If he hadn’t then O’Rourke would have been a contender and brought Texas even more into play. Also offers youth on the ticket. I still think Biden is right though -it is a real risk of generalising but he was always going to win on women votes and black votes. Abrams or Harris locks it in with a lot of female and black voters. A woman VP, a black VP, both resonate, especially with an electorate looking at Trump’s record through the pandemic and just more generally.

[Ozyhibby]

If Texas goes blue it’s a total landslide. I think Texas is starting to move that way though anyway as it becomes a lot more urban.


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[Ozyhibby]

Texas would be a massive game changer, . Chuck in Florida, assume California is a given and it looks like landslide territory. Texas has been red since Reagan, in maybe no small part because of those good ol’ Bush boys being on most of the various tickets. Gaining Texas would possibly make Florida redundant in the equation, in terms of getting over the line. Be nice to see an electoral college slaughter though, on a par with 1984 but this time for the good guys (or less worse guys!)

Still no announcement on VP though that might wait until the virtual convention. It is surely between Abrams and Harris. I wouldn’t rule out Trump being Trump and taking Pence off his ticket, even though that is the only security he has with the religious right vote. It is Trump though. Jared for VP!

Don jnr for VP?


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[wpj]

Don jnr for VP?


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Wouldn't surprise me at all.

[JeMeSouviens]

I personally think stats like that owe more to historical coincidence than any genuine ‘bell weather’ status in Ohio. If he gets pasted in the big electoral colleges like California, Texas, Florida, Michigan it won’t matter what Clint in Cleveland says, he’ll be out.

The key states Clinton lost were the rust belt: Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin. All Dem leaning but Trump managed to mobilise the angry nativist vote. Basically Labour’s red wall problem 3 years early.

[wpj]

https://www.metro.news/app/2093207

No surprises here I guess but very poor show

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1288230617075740674?s=21

Trump storms out of press conference after promoting doctor who believes vaccines are made from alien DNA. New tone did not last long.[emoji23]


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[grunt]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1288230617075740674?s=21

Trump storms out of press conference after promoting doctor who believes vaccines are made from alien DNA. New tone did not last long.[emoji23]
The press should ignore him. Boycott his news conferences, don't report his mad utterances. He thrives on being in the news, it's his oxygen.

[Keith_M]

Apparently he liked her voice... or something.

[Hibby70]

It's my ba' and I'm no playing.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288444241765707781?s=21

Trump on Russia. Hard to watch and think that people will still vote for him.


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[Beefster]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288444241765707781?s=21

Trump on Russia. Hard to watch and think that people will still vote for him.


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That was incredible. I’m not sure he even understands what happened when the Soviet Union broke up either.

[stokesmessiah]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288444241765707781?s=21

Trump on Russia. Hard to watch and think that people will still vote for him.


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That is absolutely terrifying!

[stokesmessiah]

Has anyone seen the bit from Trump on Fauci from yesterday? Wondering why Fauci has a high approval rating and he doesn’t....”must be my personality”

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288444241765707781?s=21

Trump on Russia. Hard to watch and think that people will still vote for him.


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Really difficult to watch and hard to believe that the world could ever again trust the USA after they voted in that muppet.

[brianmc]

I've reached the point where I don't even want to mock Trump any more.

I think he is mentally ill.

The man needs removed from office and taken to a care facility to be looked after.

It's scary to think a large number of Americans can watch his inane, confused ramblings and not only think they can understand him but they actually agree with him!!

Scary ****.

[hibsbollah]

It's scary to think a large number of Americans can watch his inane, confused ramblings and not only think they can understand him but they actually agree with him!!

Scary ****.

I think this way a lot. It’s tempting to accept that Americans are all stupid rednecks to fall for his constant nonsense. However, He is now trailing by historic levels in the polls. He did lose the popular vote last time around. He had a number of unique advantages last time round; an opponent who was widely mistrusted and disliked. Bottomless coffers in an electoral system where money matters above all else. The best voter analytics, vital especially in localising trends to district level and the best sophisticated social media targeting. And I’ve been reading and listening a lot about US voter suppression; Republican states like Texas allocate so few voting booths to districts that vote Democrat that 6 hour queues are the norm, resulting in lower turnout where people work multiple jobs and can’t get time off, removal of voters, making registration more onerous from particular districts etc. I think American Idiots are over represented by both its electoral system and its media.

[Hibs Class]

I think this way a lot. It’s tempting to accept that Americans are all stupid rednecks to fall for his constant nonsense. However, He is now trailing by historic levels in the polls. He did lose the popular vote last time around. He had a number of unique advantages last time round; an opponent who was widely mistrusted and disliked. Bottomless coffers in an electoral system where money matters above all else. The best voter analytics, vital especially in localising trends to district level and the best sophisticated social media targeting. And I’ve been reading and listening a lot about US voter suppression; Republican states like Texas allocate so few voting booths to districts that vote Democrat that 6 hour queues are the norm, resulting in lower turnout where people work multiple jobs and can’t get time off, removal of voters, making registration more onerous from particular districts etc. I think American Idiots are over represented by both its electoral system and its media.

How can individual states/districts have the authority to do something like that in a national election? Has it ever been challenged e.g. at the Supreme Court?

[Tobias Funke]

https://youtu.be/5p8FAwHAQMI

This should be a decent watch. Not sure Gleeson has nailed Trumps whiny voice though 😂

[JimBHibees]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288444241765707781?s=21

Trump on Russia. Hard to watch and think that people will still vote for him.


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He reads a lot though and understands much more than anyone else ever. :rolleyes:

[stokesmessiah]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/30/us-gdp-economy-worst-quarter-covid-19-unemployment

Keen to see how Trump tries to spin this one - strange considering the "great, huge, record breaking job numbers"

[Just Alf]

Trump calls for delay to 2020 US election

https://t.co/mWFN6QIbr7?amp=1

US President Trump calls for delaying 2020 election, citing possible mail-in voting fraud despite little evidence

folks on here did say right enough he'd try to hold onto power.

[stantonhibby]

He now wants the election delayed!

[Tobias Funke]

Trump calls for a delay in 2020 election citing mail in ballot fraud. (BBC)

He knows his goose is cooked, this is the beginning of his corrupt attempts at hanging onto power. Absolute psychopath.

[SHODAN]

Congratulations America, you've elected a tyrant.

[neil7908]

Trump calls for delay to 2020 US election

https://t.co/mWFN6QIbr7?amp=1

US President Trump calls for delaying 2020 election, citing possible mail-in voting fraud despite little evidence

folks on here did say right enough he'd try to hold onto power.

So it begins. The Republican party and all their champions in the media have failed every test to check Trump's power.

If they fail this one I think its safe to call Trump and anyone that doesn't condemn him as treasonous.

[Tobias Funke]

So it begins. The Republican party and all their champions in the media have failed every test to check Trump's power.

If they fail this one I think its safe to call Trump and anyone that doesn't condemn him as treasonous.

Apparently the worst ever quarterly shrinkage of the US economy is also being announced today, this will be Trumps way of making folk look the other way. ��

[weecounty hibby]

Here we go, said it a while back there will be no election and he will sign an executive order that he must stay in office while the crisis is ongoing. This is just the beginning of him trying to force the presidency to be his and his alone until he decides to give it up or he dies. Seriously scary stuff. The man is a liar, a cheat and actually not very bright when you hear the bs he comes out with but he sadly is smart enough to surround himself with folk who will allow this to happen

[hibsbollah]

How can individual states/districts have the authority to do something like that in a national election? Has it ever been challenged e.g. at the Supreme Court?

The management of the register and the voting process is conducted at state level. I’m not sure if it’s ever been challenged. The source is ‘One Person No Vote, by Carol Anderson. It describes a coordinated policy of deliberately removing people from electoral rolls if they move house frequently, for example, or in Alabama’s case, instituting a voter ID system where public housing ID doesn’t count as verifiable ID, and where dept of motor vehicles offices that would normally give you photo ID have been closed or moved away from black/poor areas that tend to vote more democrat.

The low black vote for Hilary in 2016 was put down to her inability to engage with black voters. But between 2008 when Obama atttacted 15 million first time voters, and 2016, literally MILLIONS of voters had disappeared from the registers, disproportionately from black and poor districts. It’s very persuasive.

Topically in relation to today’s news, Anderson also destroys the Trump claim of widespread absent voter fraud as a total myth. In studies of over a BILLION votes cast in successive US elections, they only found 31 cases of fraud.

[BroxburnHibee]

Could see this coming a mile. Even if it goes ahead - he'll try to hang on in some way when he hopefully loses.

[ACLeith]

So what will come first - he dies, goes to jail or leaves office

[stokesmessiah]

So what will come first - he dies, goes to jail or leaves office

Or worse!

[Kato]

Here we go, said it a while back there will be no election and he will sign an executive order that he must stay in office while the crisis is ongoing. This is just the beginning of him trying to force the presidency to be his and his alone until he decides to give it up or he dies. Seriously scary stuff. The man is a liar, a cheat and actually not very bright when you hear the bs he comes out with but he sadly is smart enough to surround himself with folk who will allow this to happen

He was a grifter in business and he's a grifter in politics. Never going to change him.

[RyeSloan]

Here we go, said it a while back there will be no election and he will sign an executive order that he must stay in office while the crisis is ongoing. This is just the beginning of him trying to force the presidency to be his and his alone until he decides to give it up or he dies. Seriously scary stuff. The man is a liar, a cheat and actually not very bright when you hear the bs he comes out with but he sadly is smart enough to surround himself with folk who will allow this to happen

He doesn’t have the executive power to do what you say.

He also has no support to do what he is ‘just asking’ about as the responses from senior republicans shows.

And there is no where near enough people surrounding him to make this happen.


My prediction is that he’ll be gone in November, probably wailing and spewing unsubstantiated bile, but he will be gone. It’s just a shame that we have to wait that long.

[Hibernia&Alba]

He doesn’t have the executive power to do what you say.

He also has no support to do what he is ‘just asking’ about as the responses from senior republicans shows.

And there is no where near enough people surrounding him to make this happen.


My prediction is that he’ll be gone in November, probably wailing and spewing unsubstantiated bile, but he will be gone. It’s just a shame that we have to wait that long.

If he loses in November, he will fill his support with conspiracy theories about millions of illegal immigrants voting etc, and they will swallow it. It could get very messy. If he's on the wrong end of a close result, there will be violence. Only a landslide defeat will avoid that.

[hibsbollah]

I never understood wind.
You know, I know
windmills very much.
I have studied it
better than anybody
else. It’s very expensive.
They are made in China
and Germany mostly.
—Very few made here, almost none,
but they are manufactured, tremendous
—if you are into this—
tremendous fumes. Gases are
spewing into the atmosphere. You know
we have a world
right?
So the world
is tiny
compared to the universe.
So tremendous, tremendous
amount of fumes and everything.
You talk about
the carbon footprint
— fumes are spewing into the air.
Right? Spewing.
Whether it’s in China,
Germany, it’s going into the air.
It’s our air
their air
everything — right?
A windmill will kill many bald eagles.
After a certain number
they make you turn the windmill off.
That is true.
—By the way
they make you turn it off.
And yet, if you killed one
they put you in jail.
That is OK.
You want to see a bird graveyard?
You just go.
Take a look.
A bird graveyard.
Go under a windmill someday,
you’ll see
more birds
than you’ve ever seen
in your life.
~ D. Trump
12/21/2019

[Hibbyradge]

I never understood wind.
You know, I know
windmills very much.
I have studied it
better than anybody
else. It’s very expensive.
They are made in China
and Germany mostly.
—Very few made here, almost none,
but they are manufactured, tremendous
—if you are into this—
tremendous fumes. Gases are
spewing into the atmosphere. You know
we have a world
right?
So the world
is tiny
compared to the universe.
So tremendous, tremendous
amount of fumes and everything.
You talk about
the carbon footprint
— fumes are spewing into the air.
Right? Spewing.
Whether it’s in China,
Germany, it’s going into the air.
It’s our air
their air
everything — right?
A windmill will kill many bald eagles.
After a certain number
they make you turn the windmill off.
That is true.
—By the way
they make you turn it off.
And yet, if you killed one
they put you in jail.
That is OK.
You want to see a bird graveyard?
You just go.
Take a look.
A bird graveyard.
Go under a windmill someday,
you’ll see
more birds
than you’ve ever seen
in your life.
~ D. Trump
12/21/2019

That's real?

[lapsedhibee]

That's real?

All too real (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9P3C1OXqE).

[hibsbollah]

That's real?
https://canongate.co.uk/wall/the-beautiful-poetry-of-donald-trump-extract?ref=263964

Sort of :greengrin

[stokesmessiah]

I never understood wind.
You know, I know
windmills very much.
I have studied it
better than anybody
else. It’s very expensive.
They are made in China
and Germany mostly.
—Very few made here, almost none,
but they are manufactured, tremendous
—if you are into this—
tremendous fumes. Gases are
spewing into the atmosphere. You know
we have a world
right?
So the world
is tiny
compared to the universe.
So tremendous, tremendous
amount of fumes and everything.
You talk about
the carbon footprint
— fumes are spewing into the air.
Right? Spewing.
Whether it’s in China,
Germany, it’s going into the air.
It’s our air
their air
everything — right?
A windmill will kill many bald eagles.
After a certain number
they make you turn the windmill off.
That is true.
—By the way
they make you turn it off.
And yet, if you killed one
they put you in jail.
That is OK.
You want to see a bird graveyard?
You just go.
Take a look.
A bird graveyard.
Go under a windmill someday,
you’ll see
more birds
than you’ve ever seen
in your life.
~ D. Trump
12/21/2019

Jesus. It’s insulting to children but the thought process seems to be very similar!!!

[Ozyhibby]

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[Hibby70]

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Why has Nebraska got splits Neb-1,Neb-2 etc?

[lapsedhibee]

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So it's all over bar the Putin/Zuckerberg factor now? :dunno:

[EAZY-ME]

I never understood wind.
You know, I know
windmills very much.
I have studied it
better than anybody
else. It’s very expensive.
They are made in China
and Germany mostly.
—Very few made here, almost none,
but they are manufactured, tremendous
—if you are into this—
tremendous fumes. Gases are
spewing into the atmosphere. You know
we have a world
right?
So the world
is tiny
compared to the universe.
So tremendous, tremendous
amount of fumes and everything.
You talk about
the carbon footprint
— fumes are spewing into the air.
Right? Spewing.
Whether it’s in China,
Germany, it’s going into the air.
It’s our air
their air
everything — right?
A windmill will kill many bald eagles.
After a certain number
they make you turn the windmill off.
That is true.
—By the way
they make you turn it off.
And yet, if you killed one
they put you in jail.
That is OK.
You want to see a bird graveyard?
You just go.
Take a look.
A bird graveyard.
Go under a windmill someday,
you’ll see
more birds
than you’ve ever seen
in your life.
~ D. Trump
12/21/2019

Hes actually right in what he saying.... windmills are killing thousands of birds. A few years ago twitchers travelled miles to see a rare bird. They finally caught a glimpse of this rarity, got some photos and were patting each other on the back when BOOM! the silly sod flew right into a propeller...... there's links to the story if you Google it

[Ozyhibby]

Why has Nebraska got splits Neb-1,Neb-2 etc?

I think it’s not a winner takes all state. The split their electoral college votes proportionally.


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[Ozyhibby]

Hes actually right in what he saying.... windmills are killing thousands of birds. A few years ago twitchers travelled miles to see a rare bird. They finally caught a glimpse of this rarity, got some photos and were patting each other on the back when BOOM! the silly sod flew right into a propeller...... there's links to the story if you Google it

Global warming will kill more birds though.


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[Sergio sledge]

Hes actually right in what he saying.... windmills are killing thousands of birds. A few years ago twitchers travelled miles to see a rare bird. They finally caught a glimpse of this rarity, got some photos and were patting each other on the back when BOOM! the silly sod flew right into a propeller...... there's links to the story if you Google it

Here's the first article google came up with for me, just to put Trumps claim into perspective.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48936941#:~:text=It%20said%20this%20would%20equate ,power%20plants%20using%20fossil%20fuels.

55m birds killed by doemstic cats every year in the UK compared to an estimated 100,000 caused by turbines. I hope Trump has domestic cats in his sights.

[JimBHibees]

Here's the first article google came up with for me, just to put Trumps claim into perspective.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48936941#:~:text=It%20said%20this%20would%20equate ,power%20plants%20using%20fossil%20fuels.

55m birds killed by doemstic cats every year in the UK compared to an estimated 100,000 caused by turbines. I hope Trump has domestic cats in his sights.

What an amazing stat that is.

[RyeSloan]

Hes actually right in what he saying.... windmills are killing thousands of birds. A few years ago twitchers travelled miles to see a rare bird. They finally caught a glimpse of this rarity, got some photos and were patting each other on the back when BOOM! the silly sod flew right into a propeller...... there's links to the story if you Google it

Many things kill birds...it’s all about perspective and being relative to others.

For example a study by the Us Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that glass buildings in the US are estimated to kill 600m a year due to collisions....do I hear Donald suggesting he knocks down his towers to protect the birds?

Cats were estimated to kill 2.4bn! Collision with vehicles 214.5m, electrical lines 25.5m.
At the same time they estimated that the on shore wind turbines were killing a mighty 234k per annum.


So when looking at those numbers while it’s true to say wind turbines kill birds it’s not true to say that it’s any real argument against their use.

If you were really bothered about birds dying you would be much better off advocating a ban on domestic cats.

[Moulin Yarns]

Hes actually right in what he saying.... windmills are killing thousands of birds. A few years ago twitchers travelled miles to see a rare bird. They finally caught a glimpse of this rarity, got some photos and were patting each other on the back when BOOM! the silly sod flew right into a propeller...... there's links to the story if you Google it

Having been involved with the planning aspects of wi d farms in Scotland I can assure you that the chances of birds or any other species being killed by turbine blades is very remote.

What was the bird and what country did this happen and when?

If this is a historic incident or happened recently makes a big difference.



EDIT: A single bird killed on the Isle of Harris in 2013!?

[EAZY-ME]

Global warming will kill more birds though.


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Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

[CropleyWasGod]

Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

The scientific evidence being?

[matty_f]

The scientific evidence being?

Ignored by folk that either don't understand it or think they know better than the people producing the evidence (generally experts in the subjects).

[lapsedhibee]

The scientific evidence being?
A liberal hoax.

[EAZY-ME]

Ignored by folk that either don't understand it or think they know better than the people producing the evidence (generally experts in the subjects).

You tell us matty.... you always seem to know everything

[matty_f]

You tell us matty.... you always seem to know everything

I don't think I need to say any more on this one. :greengrin

I'm sure (in the spirit of the discussion) you'll have evidence on how I seem to know everything as well...?

[Sylar]

Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

Ah, you're one of THOSE idiots.

Cool - no wonder you're such an avid Trump supporter :rolleyes:

[EAZY-ME]

Ah, you're one of THOSE idiots.

Cool - no wonder you're such an avid Trump supporter :rolleyes:

Must be but then again that makes you one of those other idiots

[CropleyWasGod]

Must be but then again that makes you one of those other idiots

Cough.

My question? :wink:

[Sylar]

Must be but then again that makes you one of those other idiots

You've no evidence against climate change - just like Trump and all the other science illiterate moon-howlers who rely on Youtube conspiracy theories to shape their world view.

If you people had the appetite to do any actual research, you might just be dangerous.

[Moulin Yarns]

Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

It does but it has never been accelerated by the action of humans before. Or idiots as they are known. 😉

[Sylar]

It does but it has never been accelerated by the action of humans before. Or idiots as they are known. 😉

Recognised, technical terminology :greengrin

[EAZY-ME]

Its a myth....an excuse to tax people.

[matty_f]

Its a myth....an excuse to tax people.

They don’t need an excuse to tax people, they already do that.

[CropleyWasGod]

Its a myth....an excuse to tax people.

Presses "play"

The scientific evidence being?

Presses "stop".

[silverhibee]

They don’t need an excuse to tax people, they already do that.

Mr know it all. :greengrin

[Mibbes Aye]

You tell us matty.... you always seem to know everything

I did not know this.

Matty, I have always been interested in the origins of the Third Punic War. I also sometimes struggle with grasping Stephen Hawking’s ‘rubber sheet’ theory of the universe. Insights would be welcome. Please note the subtle colander thread in-joke.

I am also keen to know who won the Male Olympic Gold in the shot putt at the 1964 games but can’t be arsed going onto Wikipedia. I pay my PM subs and I don’t think I am being unreasonable.

[EAZY-ME]

I did not know this.

Matty, I have always been interested in the origins of the Third Punic War. I also sometimes struggle with grasping Stephen Hawking’s ‘rubber sheet’ theory of the universe. Insights would be welcome. Please note the subtle colander thread in-joke.

I am also keen to know who won the Male Olympic Gold in the shot putt at the 1964 games but can’t be arsed going onto Wikipedia. I pay my PM subs and I don’t think I am being unreasonable.

Typical sheep sponging of someone else's knowledge

[bigwheel]

Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

If you would do any objective research in this you would know that many studies have shown that not to be true...

A) climate change acceleration is not due to cycles of planetary activity. For example: the solar energy absorbed by the Earth has been relatively unchanged for 150 million years
B) the acceleration of carbon dioxide in our soil has increased exponentially since the Industrial Age.... by over 70 times, compared with that of the natural effects of the sun (for example)


I’m guessing you’ve already made up your mind on it though ....

[Hiber-nation]

Typical sheep sponging of someone else's knowledge

What is "sheep sponging"? Or should I ask an Aberdeen supporter??

[EAZY-ME]

What is "sheep sponging"? Or should I ask an Aberdeen supporter??

If you do just make sure you pack your velcro wellies

[CropleyWasGod]

If you do just make sure you pack your velcro wellies

Any chance of an answer yet?

[EAZY-ME]

seriously though guys I'm just not buying this global warming stuff at all. I think we have more to worry about with the cloud seeding projects that are going on

[Mibbes Aye]

What is "sheep sponging"? Or should I ask an Aberdeen supporter??

I would have thought that sheep fleece didn’t lend itself to sponging. You probably want a carpet sweeper but then you face issues in that you can’t restrain the sheep, given the long handle.

Probably need a second person which makes it into something far more resource-intensive.

[Hibrandenburg]

Global warmings a myth ..... the planet goes through cycles as it always has done.

Someone's not getting enough attention.

[grunt]

I think we have more to worry about with the cloud seeding projects that are going on

I agree, that's always been a worry of mine.

[EAZY-ME]

Any chance of an answer yet?

Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox

[Mibbes Aye]

seriously though guys I'm just not buying this global warming stuff at all. I think we have more to worry about with the cloud seeding projects that are going on

I planted carrots and aubergines this year. My local garden centre didn’t sell cloud seeds though. I guess that’s what I get for living outside the central belt where it seems anything and everything is available.

[CropleyWasGod]

Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now that I know that, I can make up my mind as to whether I should believe the experts out there, or you.

What's an xbox?

[Hiber-nation]

I would have thought that sheep fleece didn’t lend itself to sponging. You probably want a carpet sweeper but then you face issues in that you can’t restrain the sheep, given the long handle.

Probably need a second person which makes it into something far more resource-intensive.

:greengrin

Is this a spoof site then? https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/july16-sheep-guide

[grunt]

I planted carrots and aubergines this year. My local garden centre didn’t sell cloud seeds though. I guess that’s what I get for living outside the central belt where it seems anything and everything is available.

We have the best clouds, great clouds. I know more than most about clouds, the scientists all say, "how do you know so much about clouds?"

[Tobias Funke]

Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox

You genuinely might be one of the most dense folk I’ve come across on here.

[lapsedhibee]

Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox

I've never really believed in oxygen. It's always seemed to me to be a government ruse to get people to open windows, go outside, that kind of thing. Notably in history both having windows and going out to work has resulted in taxation, which I think tells its own story.

[Mibbes Aye]

We have the best clouds, great clouds. I know more than most about clouds, the scientists all say, "how do you know so much about clouds?"

I just want to say grunt is a great guy, a really great guy. I have known him a long time. Great guy. I don’t actually know him. People tell me things, lots of things. Good things. Beautiful things.

Despite Sleepy Joe we are going to build a beautiful wall in Colorado. That’s what people tell me. I’ve built things, great things.

We are making deals, interesting deals, beautiful deals. I make great deals. That’s what people tell me. I don’t know but I guess it’s true. That’s what people say.

[Moulin Yarns]

Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox

So it's just an opinion as opposed to the actual truth. Thanks for clearing that up.

[EAZY-ME]

You genuinely might be one of the most dense folk I’ve come across on here.

And you're probably one of the biggest idiot's on here.....or maybe even the biggest

[Moulin Yarns]

I've never really believed in oxygen. It's always seemed to me to be a government ruse to get people to open windows, go outside, that kind of thing. Notably in history both having windows and going out to work has resulted in taxation, which I think tells its own story.

I don't believe in oxygen either, you can't see it so it's a myth. Climate change on the other hand....

[hibsbollah]

And you're probably one of the biggest idiot's on here.....or maybe even the biggest

You need to ask yourself, who’s the bigger idiot, the idiot or the idiot talking to the idiot?
(Dostoyevsky via D Trump)

[matty_f]

I did not know this.

Matty, I have always been interested in the origins of the Third Punic War. I also sometimes struggle with grasping Stephen Hawking’s ‘rubber sheet’ theory of the universe. Insights would be welcome. Please note the subtle colander thread in-joke.

I am also keen to know who won the Male Olympic Gold in the shot putt at the 1964 games but can’t be arsed going onto Wikipedia. I pay my PM subs and I don’t think I am being unreasonable.

You have a PM. :greengrin

[EAZY-ME]

You need to ask yourself, who’s the bigger idiot, the idiot or the idiot talking to the idiot?
(Dostoyevsky via D Trump)

Good point:greengrin

[Saturday Boy]

I just want to say grunt is a great guy, a really great guy. I have known him a long time. Great guy. I don’t actually know him. People tell me things, lots of things. Good things. Beautiful things.

Despite Sleepy Joe we are going to build a beautiful wall in Colorado. That’s what people tell me. I’ve built things, great things.

We are making deals, interesting deals, beautiful deals. I make great deals. That’s what people tell me. I don’t know but I guess it’s true. That’s what people say.

Did you know that you can sing this to the tune of Imagine.

John Lennon was a visionary.

[Mibbes Aye]

You need to ask yourself, who’s the bigger idiot, the idiot or the idiot talking to the idiot?
(Dostoyevsky via D Trump)

Ooh, I like a Dostoyevsky reference :greengrin

[Mibbes Aye]

You have a PM. :greengrin

Matty, you are a gent and a scholar. How could I forget Dallas Crutcher Long in the shot putt?

Very well-put points about four-dimensional systems in relation to the universe and liked your interpretation of how Carthage evolved through the Punic Wars.

[Mibbes Aye]

Did you know that you can sing this to the tune of Imagine.

John Lennon was a visionary.

When you say sing to the original, what style do you mean?

I have tried country, rare dub, Motownish and eighties classic hip-hop.

I ruled out the original style and am considering free-form jazz with a bit of skat but because I am in the garden I am sensing the neighbours starting to be restless.

Lennon has a lot of achievements to his name but he clearly never ‘imagined’ how to recreate his song in a different style in a Jedburgh garden!

[CropleyWasGod]

Matty, you are a gent and a scholar. How could I forget Dallas Crutcher Long in the shot putt?

Very well-put points about four-dimensional systems in relation to the universe and liked your interpretation of how Carthage evolved through the Punic Wars.

Bollocks. I had Randy Matson.

But then I also answered a question in Latin History about the Punic Wars with the word "Phallus".

[Mibbes Aye]

Bollocks. I had Randy Matson.

But then I also answered a question in Latin History about the Punic Wars with the word "Phallus".

For some of us the battles between Dallas Crutcher Long and Randy Matson exemplified sport as it was intended to be.

Two finely-honed athletes, muscular but trim, glistening in sweat, tight singlet and shorts. Yep.

‘’Phallic” was maybe just a Freudian slip.

[Mibbes Aye]

Bollocks. I had Randy Matson.

But then I also answered a question in Latin History about the Punic Wars with the word "Phallus".

Oh, I hope that wasn’t the entirety of your answer.

[Saturday Boy]

When you say sing to the original, what style do you mean?

I have tried country, rare dub, Motownish and eighties classic hip-hop.

I ruled out the original style and am considering free-form jazz with a bit of skat but because I am in the garden I am sensing the neighbours starting to be restless.

Lennon has a lot of achievements to his name but he clearly never ‘imagined’ how to recreate his song in a different style in a Jedburgh garden!


See the pet peeves thread. It has to be on a veeeeeeery sloooow pianooooo, and absolutely no trace of any tune in the vocals.

I’m up to cacomistle singing the Oxford Concise dictionary.

[Mibbes Aye]

See the pet peeves thread. It has to be on a veeeeeeery sloooow pianooooo, and absolutely no trace of any tune in the vocals.

I’m up to cacomistle singing the Oxford Concise dictionary.

Helpful. I think I need to find some elfin girl with a gentle and earnest voice.

If I can factor in a Christmas angle and pitch it to John Lewis or preferably Marks, then I am quids in.

If that happens I will definitely pick up the shirt sponsorship for whoever comes after Jack Ross and John Potter on the coaching bench. We are all Hibs.

[Saturday Boy]

Helpful. I think I need to find some elfin girl with a gentle and earnest voice.

If I can factor in a Christmas angle and pitch it to John Lewis or preferably Marks, then I am quids in.

If that happens I will definitely pick up the shirt sponsorship for whoever comes after Jack Ross and John Potter on the coaching bench. We are all Hibs.

If I was a USA citizen, you’d definitely get my vote. ✅

[Hibs Class]

Bollocks. I had Randy Matson.

But then I also answered a question in Latin History about the Punic Wars with the word "Phallus".

Badger would’ve been very proud.

[Moulin Yarns]

seriously though guys I'm just not buying this global warming stuff at all. I think we have more to worry about with the cloud seeding projects that are going on

I've never grown clouds but I have had some success with love in a mist. (percy thrower understands)

[Moulin Yarns]

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now that I know that, I can make up my mind as to whether I should believe the experts out there, or you.

What's an xbox?

An xbox is a pile of cardboard

[Moulin Yarns]

Good point:greengrin

WOW, at last a sensible post.

[CropleyWasGod]

Badger would’ve been very proud.

😆

[Kato]

Ooh, I like a Dostoyevsky reference :greengrin

C'mon. Everyone noes Fyodor ripped off Iggy Pop.

[CropleyWasGod]

An xbox is a pile of cardboard

You here all week?







Please say no. 🥁

[RyeSloan]

An xbox is a pile of cardboard

[emoji23][emoji23]

This thread has went somewhat off topic but it’s certainly made me laugh, some high quality jolly japing indeed.

[Moulin Yarns]

You here all week?






Please say no. 🥁


I'm missing the fringe this year. I'll leave it to easyjet to provide the laughs. 😁

[BroxburnHibee]

His latest interview.......


https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096?s=19

[Future17]

Loathe as I am to bring this thread back to Trump, I've just watched some of his interview with Jonathan Swan, which was broadcast on HBO last night. The man is beyond parody.

The bit about Coronavirus in the US is startling; he brings out paper charts to show Swan and persuade him on his argument. Basically, his argument is that the relevant figure is "deaths per number of confirmed cases" rather than "deaths per head of population". He then refers to not getting enough credit for the US doing more testing than any other country. He's so out of his depth that he'd almost engender sympathy if the situation wasn't so serious and he wasn't such a ****.

I understand why people would be suspicious that Trump may try to hold onto power if he loses the election, but the man I see is simply not capable of doing so.

[Callum_62]

His latest interview.......


https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096?s=19You can't do that.

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[lapsedhibee]

Loathe as I am to bring this thread back to Trump, I've just watched some of his interview with Jonathan Swan, which was broadcast on HBO last night. The man is beyond parody.

The bit about Coronavirus in the US is startling; he brings out paper charts to show Swan and persuade him on his argument. Basically, his argument is that the relevant figure is "deaths per number of confirmed cases" rather than "deaths per head of population". He then refers to not getting enough credit for the US doing more testing than any other country. He's so out of his depth that he'd almost engender sympathy if the situation wasn't so serious and he wasn't such a ****.

I understand why people would be suspicious that Trump may try to hold onto power if he loses the election, but the man I see is simply not capable of doing so.

Steady.

[Ozyhibby]

Loathe as I am to bring this thread back to Trump, I've just watched some of his interview with Jonathan Swan, which was broadcast on HBO last night. The man is beyond parody.

The bit about Coronavirus in the US is startling; he brings out paper charts to show Swan and persuade him on his argument. Basically, his argument is that the relevant figure is "deaths per number of confirmed cases" rather than "deaths per head of population". He then refers to not getting enough credit for the US doing more testing than any other country. He's so out of his depth that he'd almost engender sympathy if the situation wasn't so serious and he wasn't such a ****.

I understand why people would be suspicious that Trump may try to hold onto power if he loses the election, but the man I see is simply not capable of doing so.

The people around him would be more capable of holding onto power though. All they need is a willing President. Not saying it’s doable but it def needs guarded against.


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[hibsbollah]

His latest interview.......


https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096?s=19

Bonkers.


Jonathan Swan seems to get away with more piercing questions than other interviewers. Despite the hostile tone Trump seems to kinda like him. Great guy, doing a fantastic job. But Its still FAKE NEWS people!! Particularly women or non white press people tend to get shouted down for asking similar questions. You have to wonder why Trump agrees to be interviewed by him when he is so clearly intellectually inferior.

Obviously # of deaths per head of population is a different and more meaningful statistic than # of deaths per cases when forming a view on how effective any countrys response to CV is. But do Trump voters appreciate that? Do they even care? Does Trump realise what he’s saying doesn’t really stand up but is just ploughing through anyway, either lost in a narcissistic dream state or just hoping his core support don’t notice or don’t care?

[McD]

seriously though guys I'm just not buying this global warming stuff at all. I think we have more to worry about with the cloud seeding projects that are going on


Jesus christ your like a dug with a bone.......clearly i have no scientific evidence...i just don't believe in it.....now get back to your xbox


I'm curious (not being smartarsed), you've said you have no scientific evidence, what drives your beliefs that global warming/climate change aren't happening?

[lapsedhibee]

You have to wonder why Trump agrees to be interviewed by him when he is so clearly intellectually inferior.

If he doesn't agree to be interviewed by people who are intellectually superior to him, he doesn't do interviews? :hmmm:

[matty_f]

Loathe as I am to bring this thread back to Trump, I've just watched some of his interview with Jonathan Swan, which was broadcast on HBO last night. The man is beyond parody.

The bit about Coronavirus in the US is startling; he brings out paper charts to show Swan and persuade him on his argument. Basically, his argument is that the relevant figure is "deaths per number of confirmed cases" rather than "deaths per head of population". He then refers to not getting enough credit for the US doing more testing than any other country. He's so out of his depth that he'd almost engender sympathy if the situation wasn't so serious and he wasn't such a ****.

I understand why people would be suspicious that Trump may try to hold onto power if he loses the election, but the man I see is simply not capable of doing so.

Trump is, in every possible way you can think of, an idiot.

That he's somehow been bankrolled into the position he is, makes him nothing more than a useful idiot for those that placed him there.

It's almost unthinkable that someone that stupid, that ignorant, and that much of an idiot, could wind up as President of the USA, but here we are.

I don't have sympathy for him, he's a racist, a misogynist, a bully, and a liar (on top of being an idiot).

He doesn't appear to have a shred of decency about him, either. Just bluster and aggression.

[matty_f]

If you watch the whole interview - you actually cringe all the way through. Trump is totally delusional.

[BroxburnHibee]

https://twitter.com/Darren_Dutton/status/1290578605991440384?s=19

[lapsedhibee]

https://twitter.com/Darren_Dutton/status/1290578605991440384?s=19

:faf:

[Rocky]

Bonkers.


Jonathan Swan seems to get away with more piercing questions than other interviewers. Despite the hostile tone Trump seems to kinda like him. Great guy, doing a fantastic job. But Its still FAKE NEWS people!! Particularly women or non white press people tend to get shouted down for asking similar questions. You have to wonder why Trump agrees to be interviewed by him when he is so clearly intellectually inferior.

Obviously # of deaths per head of population is a different and more meaningful statistic than # of deaths per cases when forming a view on how effective any countrys response to CV is. But do Trump voters appreciate that? Do they even care? Does Trump realise what he’s saying doesn’t really stand up but is just ploughing through anyway, either lost in a narcissistic dream state or just hoping his core support don’t notice or don’t care?
It's the fact that he also argues that the US case numbers are artificially high due to the amount of testing they do IN THE SAME INTERVIEW as praising himself for low deaths per case rates. Can you imagine being the poor sod trying to explain that one is an outcome of the other??? There isn't a box of crayons big enough.

[calumhibee1]

Trump is, in every possible way you can think of, an idiot.

That he's somehow been bankrolled into the position he is, makes him nothing more than a useful idiot for those that placed him there.

It's almost unthinkable that someone that stupid, that ignorant, and that much of an idiot, could wind up as President of the USA, but here we are.

I don't have sympathy for him, he's a racist, a misogynist, a bully, and a liar (on top of being an idiot).

He doesn't appear to have a shred of decency about him, either. Just bluster and aggression.

:agree:

Whilst I’m not saying he was a good president I remember saying when he got elected that the doomsday scenarios predicted by all wouldn’t come to fruition - or at least to the extent others thought it would. I reckoned he’d get 4, possibly even 8 years and they’d be fairly non eventful (as much as a presidential campaign can be anyway) and that would be it. If COVID hadn’t come round I do think that would probably have been how it would have went.

The way he’s dealt with COVID though has made others predictions look mild. Guys ****ing nuts.

[Hibernia&Alba]

If you watch the whole interview - you actually cringe all the way through. Trump is totally delusional.

For a minute I genuinely thought it was a comedy sketch. It's unbelievable and would be funny if his idiocy wasn't costing thousands of lives.

It's like Spinal Tap Trump:

Interviewer: All the statistics point to more cases and more deaths.
Trump: But this graph goes to eleven.
Interviewer: The graph shows a spike in cases.
Trump:........(long pause).....It goes to eleven.

[jonty]

https://youtu.be/W7rJp2Tx7vc

Trump doing the interview with himself. it almost makes more sense.

[Callum_62]

Man's insane

How anyone can vote for him a 2nd time defies logic

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/287823559110541/?extid=bNICOt6flcMkk5TL&d=null&vh=e

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[Smartie]

Obviously his performance in these interviews is appalling, but I have to say, something deep inside of me actually respects him for facing up to some sort of scrutiny for a change.

It’s not like him.

[weecounty hibby]

Obviously his performance in these interviews is appalling, but I have to say, something deep inside of me actually respects him for facing up to some sort of scrutiny for a change.

It’s not like him.
I think it's more likely that he is doing it because he is an arrogant ******* and he believes he is the cleverest but in the world. I can imagine that his advisers are tearing their hair out about it. They surely must be telling him not to do it

[Ozyhibby]

I think it's more likely that he is doing it because he is an arrogant ******* and he believes he is the cleverest but in the world. I can imagine that his advisers are tearing their hair out about it. They surely must be telling him not to do it

Biden is obviously listening to his advisers to keep a very low profile. He needs to get through the three debates, have no hiccups in naming his VP this week and the job is his. And only give the bare minimum of interviews and speeches.


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[Smartie]

I think it's more likely that he is doing it because he is an arrogant ******* and he believes he is the cleverest but in the world. I can imagine that his advisers are tearing their hair out about it. They surely must be telling him not to do it

I’m coming from a point where I think he has absolutely no redeeming features whatsoever, and it’s a pretty low bar when you start to think that the man in charge of the world’s biggest democracy deserves credit just for taking part and performing very badly in a moderately challenging interview.

[Ozyhibby]

Looks like Trump has been banned from Twitter, had a post deleted by Facebook and Deutsche bank has handed over all his financial records to the SDNY. He’ll be going nuts.[emoji23]


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[stokesmessiah]

Looks like Trump has been banned from Twitter, had a post deleted by Facebook and Deutsche bank has handed over all his financial records to the SDNY. He’ll be going nuts.[emoji23]


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His Twitter is still active?

[RyeSloan]

It’s was trumps campaign twitter account that was frozen for fake Covid claims.

Interestingly it wasn’t frozen or called out for posting clearly doctored photos of Biden. Claiming he was alone and diminished in his basement they heavily edited photos of him at a football watching party, outdoors at a rally and even him praying in church...all (rather poorly) edited to try and show him pale and frail and alone in his basement.

Talk about Fake News!!

[Bristolhibby]

Seen this one?

A lunatic!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1290794273261133824?s=21

[Tobias Funke]

Seen this one?

A lunatic!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1290794273261133824?s=21

He posted that before, he’s a ****ing moron, like the majority of his supporters.

[marinello59]

He posted that before, he’s a ****ing moron, like the majority of his supporters.

The frightening thing isn’t that the majority of his supporters are morons. It’s that they aren’t.

[hibsbollah]

The frightening thing isn’t that the majority of his supporters are morons. It’s that they aren’t.

I have subscribed to WH news (White House news) on Facebook. It’s good, I get propaganda updates from the Trump camp. Sometimes it’s quite persuasive, other times less so. But you can see how people can fall for his schtick. Good to get out of the liberal antifa echo chamber for a while :agree:

[CropleyWasGod]

Love the fact that a black female democrat is trying to bring down the NRA 🙏

BBC News - New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53684033

[Future17]

Love the fact that a black female democrat is trying to bring down the NRA 🙏

BBC News - New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53684033

I hope she has good security.

[wpj]

I hope she has good security.

She's georgous. OK, perhaps not politically correct but she talks so much sense

[Ozyhibby]

Love the fact that a black female democrat is trying to bring down the NRA [emoji120]

BBC News - New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53684033

Should keep the NRA out of this campaign as well, although I think they are skint anyway.


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[Keith_M]

In an attempt to appeal to the right-wing-evangelical-nut-jobs, Trump has attacked Biden's religious credentials.


“He’s following the radical-left agenda: take away your guns, destroy your Second Amendment, no religion, no anything, hurt the Bible, hurt God,” .... “He’s against God.”
Huffington Post (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-biden-religion-attack_n_5f2ce19bc5b6b9cff7ef8f09?ri18n=true&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jb25zZW50LnlhaG9vLmNvbS9j b2xsZWN0Q29uc2VudD9zZXNzaW9uSWQ9M19jYy1zZXNzaW9uX2 FhY2E3NTM0LTY1YzQtNGZiOS04NDVhLTg0ODRiYjRmMmE0NiZs YW5nPWVuLXVzJmlubGluZT1mYWxzZQ&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMS-KVvomV7AGj_b7j9gfmo5OiHnGhqsYAmGToWhzUvbQD1kU3K3Ft wrGmo1OLz5orgbOtAGha4DCblwszvON8DhxC1RKs-3J-dTAImc7eM__mafu1ZFMxKMSchf-6jtn2uZzavTVkOI3eqIhOtN--qUF6SZvVDc7QD2RJwKkNMn)


This from a man that couldn't quite one single line from the bible during an interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE).

[CropleyWasGod]

Just as the thread slips down the board, he comes up with this cracker.....

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1292956445944606721?s=19

[jonty]

Just as the thread slips down the board, he comes up with this cracker.....

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1292956445944606721?s=19

just when you think he couldnt possibly come out with anything more stupid than the last time....

[lapsedhibee]

just when you think he couldnt possibly come out with anything more stupid than the last time....

Lucky he didn't call it world war thoo.

[McSwanky]

Just as the thread slips down the board, he comes up with this cracker.....

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1292956445944606721?s=19

That was some pandemic, that one. A bit of a slow burner for the first 27 years, fair blew up in 1945 though.

WHAT

A

PLUM

[CropleyWasGod]

That was some pandemic, that one. A bit of a slow burner for the first 27 years, fair blew up in 1945 though.

WHAT

A

PLUM

Love the notion that the war ended because neither side could raise a team 😷

[McSwanky]

Love the notion that the war ended because neither side could raise a team 😷

Surely you just postpone in that case, not abandon? :greengrin

[RyeSloan]

Love the notion that the war ended because neither side could raise a team [emoji40]

It’s actually not such a ridiculous concept, although clearly all the authorities had to do was ask Hearts as they had already won the war by then so clearly would have had no problem in winning it again.

But to the general concept Trump is alluding to its known the First World War pretty much exhausted all sides in terms of man power, such was the carnage and death rate. And the Spanish flu was indeed rampant in the barracks where they were based and was a huge killer of men. Then there is the strong evidence that the second wave of the flu was the result of the troops returning home and spreading it like wildfire.

Clearly ol’ Trump has got his wars mixed up but there is also some suggestion that the Spanish flu likely killed more US troops in WWI than enemy action.

So on this one I kind of see his point. <did I actually just say that! [emoji2957][emoji23]>


What also must be remembered about the Spanish flu though is that medicine at that time actually didn’t know what a virus was so it’s rather hard to piece it all together in terms of what actually happened.

[Bristolhibby]

It’s actually not such a ridiculous concept, although clearly all the authorities had to do was ask Hearts as they had already won the war by then so clearly would have had no problem in winning it again.

But to the general concept Trump is alluding to its known the First World War pretty much exhausted all sides in terms of man power, such was the carnage and death rate. And the Spanish flu was indeed rampant in the barracks where they were based and was a huge killer of men. Then there is the strong evidence that the second wave of the flu was the result of the troops returning home and spreading it like wildfire.

Clearly ol’ Trump has got his wars mixed up but there is also some suggestion that the Spanish flu likely killed more US troops in WWI than enemy action.

So on this one I kind of see his point. <did I actually just say that! [emoji2957][emoji23]>


What also must be remembered about the Spanish flu though is that medicine at that time actually didn’t know what a virus was so it’s rather hard to piece it all together in terms of what actually happened.

And it didn’t come from Spain. I’ve read about the troops being carriers. Makes sense, high concentration of men, crammed together exhausted and not the best of condition. Ripe for disease.

J

[weecounty hibby]

It completely blows my mind that he is the president of the United States. If you told me he was the president of a local bowling club I would be amazed.

[hibsbollah]

Kamala Harris is the most ‘mean and horrible’ apparently.
I mean, who even talks like that in infant school? It’s beyond embarrassing.

[lapsedhibee]

Kamala Harris is the most ‘mean and horrible’ apparently.
I mean, who even talks like that in infant school? It’s beyond embarrassing.

Think in his world women are soft, fluffy and compliant. Which nasty Harris ain't.

Still, shirley only a few more months of this now - hurrah! :flag:

[hibby rae]

Kamala Harris is the most ‘mean and horrible’ apparently.
I mean, who even talks like that in infant school? It’s beyond embarrassing.

"She was really mean to 'Sleepy Joe" and "Nastier than even Pocahontas" towards him. Apparently Pocahontas is Trump's nickname for Elizabeth Warren. Infantile.

He was claimed she has said false and misleading things in the past. Although I imagine, if she has, it's not more than the 20,000 times (this is actually a proven figure, by a study at a US university) he has done so since 2016.

[hibby rae]

Think in his world women are soft, fluffy and compliant. Which nasty Harris ain't.

Still, shirley only a few more months of this now - hurrah! :flag:

Apparently she said some very nasty things about Brett Kavanagh. The same one who has been accused of sexual assault on multiple occasions.

The difference between the fears of men and women. Men are scared women will say something nasty about us. Women fear rape or worse.

[CropleyWasGod]

This from Reddit...
You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence. They don't give a **** what he does.
He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period. He absolutely realizes that and plays it up, they love it, he knows they love it, and the fact that people act like it's anything other than that just proves that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.If you keep getting caught up in why do they not realize blah blah blah and how can they still back him after blah blah blah, you are not understanding what is the underlying motivating factor of his support.
It's **** liberals, that's pretty much it. Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable and
they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense? Because they're not even keeping track of any logical narrative, it's irrelevant, **** liberals is the only relevant thing, trust me, I know first hand what I'm talking about. That's why they just laugh at
it all, because you all don't even realize they really truly don't give a **** about whatever the conversation is about, it's just a side mission story that doesn't really matter anyways. That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever. **** liberals.Look at the thing with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what
that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. You gotta understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness, because that's what they believe strength is, hatred for weakness. And I mean passionate,
sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they lump in vulnerability, a
compromised circumstance, or an overwhelming circumstance in their with weakness, too, because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in those circumstances and that's an obvious sign of weakness.Kindness=weakness. Honesty=weakness. Compromise=weakness. They
consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact
that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them though.
Just keep in mind what I said here and think about it.

[bigwheel]

This from Reddit...
You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence. They don't give a **** what he does.
He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period. He absolutely realizes that and plays it up, they love it, he knows they love it, and the fact that people act like it's anything other than that just proves that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.If you keep getting caught up in why do they not realize blah blah blah and how can they still back him after blah blah blah, you are not understanding what is the underlying motivating factor of his support.
It's **** liberals, that's pretty much it. Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable and
they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense? Because they're not even keeping track of any logical narrative, it's irrelevant, **** liberals is the only relevant thing, trust me, I know first hand what I'm talking about. That's why they just laugh at
it all, because you all don't even realize they really truly don't give a **** about whatever the conversation is about, it's just a side mission story that doesn't really matter anyways. That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever. **** liberals.Look at the thing with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what
that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. You gotta understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness, because that's what they believe strength is, hatred for weakness. And I mean passionate,
sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they lump in vulnerability, a
compromised circumstance, or an overwhelming circumstance in their with weakness, too, because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in those circumstances and that's an obvious sign of weakness.Kindness=weakness. Honesty=weakness. Compromise=weakness. They
consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact
that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them though.
Just keep in mind what I said here and think about it.

It’s an enlightening post that ..thanks for sharing

[lapsedhibee]

This from Reddit...
You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence. They don't give a **** what he does.
He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period. He absolutely realizes that and plays it up, they love it, he knows they love it, and the fact that people act like it's anything other than that just proves that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.If you keep getting caught up in why do they not realize blah blah blah and how can they still back him after blah blah blah, you are not understanding what is the underlying motivating factor of his support.
It's **** liberals, that's pretty much it. Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable and
they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense? Because they're not even keeping track of any logical narrative, it's irrelevant, **** liberals is the only relevant thing, trust me, I know first hand what I'm talking about. That's why they just laugh at
it all, because you all don't even realize they really truly don't give a **** about whatever the conversation is about, it's just a side mission story that doesn't really matter anyways. That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever. **** liberals.Look at the thing with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what
that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. You gotta understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness, because that's what they believe strength is, hatred for weakness. And I mean passionate,
sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they lump in vulnerability, a
compromised circumstance, or an overwhelming circumstance in their with weakness, too, because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in those circumstances and that's an obvious sign of weakness.Kindness=weakness. Honesty=weakness. Compromise=weakness. They
consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact
that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them though.
Just keep in mind what I said here and think about it.

Interesting, but the idea that Trump realises anything jars with me.

[Hibrandenburg]

This from Reddit...
You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence. They don't give a **** what he does.
He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period. He absolutely realizes that and plays it up, they love it, he knows they love it, and the fact that people act like it's anything other than that just proves that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.If you keep getting caught up in why do they not realize blah blah blah and how can they still back him after blah blah blah, you are not understanding what is the underlying motivating factor of his support.
It's **** liberals, that's pretty much it. Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable and
they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense? Because they're not even keeping track of any logical narrative, it's irrelevant, **** liberals is the only relevant thing, trust me, I know first hand what I'm talking about. That's why they just laugh at
it all, because you all don't even realize they really truly don't give a **** about whatever the conversation is about, it's just a side mission story that doesn't really matter anyways. That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever. **** liberals.Look at the thing with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what
that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. You gotta understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness, because that's what they believe strength is, hatred for weakness. And I mean passionate,
sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they lump in vulnerability, a
compromised circumstance, or an overwhelming circumstance in their with weakness, too, because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in those circumstances and that's an obvious sign of weakness.Kindness=weakness. Honesty=weakness. Compromise=weakness. They
consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact
that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them though.
Just keep in mind what I said here and think about it.

Sounds like Bozo's relationship to the Brexiteers.

[Kato]

Interesting, but the idea that Trump realises anything jars with me.

Most of the protagonists, including Trump, who fit the above description don't realise it. It's a base instinct programmed in from years of cultural conditioning.

[hibsbollah]

Most of the protagonists, including Trump, who fit the above description don't realise it. It's a base instinct programmed in from years of cultural conditioning.

:agree:
This is what you’re dealing with. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/mark-grenon-archbishop-florida-church-selling-bleach-miracle-cure-arrested-son

[RyeSloan]

:agree:
This is what you’re dealing with. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/mark-grenon-archbishop-florida-church-selling-bleach-miracle-cure-arrested-son

And this..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/11/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia-runoff-qanon-conspiracy-theory/index.html

[hibsbollah]

And this..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/11/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia-runoff-qanon-conspiracy-theory/index.html

Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

[RyeSloan]

Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

Yup it would appear so....

I’m not actually quite sure what to make of that.

Taking Trump as some sort of one off aberration is possible to compute but trying to get my head around just how far and wide his mentalist brand has pervaded the GOP and the backing it now seems to have...to the level that the likes of Greene are now stick on Senators is just hurting my head.

[Saturday Boy]

Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

There’s been a lot written about the blue collar paradox, where unemployed white miners, car workers and steel workers voted for the GOP factory owners who moved their jobs overseas.

[CropleyWasGod]

Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

I'm always confused about Congress votes. Is that not for the House Of Representatives?

[Mibbes Aye]

Congress is both the Senate (senators) and the House of Representatives (congressmen and congresswomen).

There are elections every two years. All members of the House of Representatives stand, as they do two-year terms. One-third of senators stand on a rotating basis because they do six-year terms.

In amongst that you have a presidential election every four years, gubernatorial and mayoral elections and various elections to state legislatures.

It is what makes the ‘mid-terms’ a thing. Two years into a presidency, all of the House of Reps and a third of Senate are in an election fight. Because of the way the American Constitution was founded, that can very much help or hamstring the sitting president.

[Future17]

Beyond parody yet again...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53761744

[CropleyWasGod]

Congress is both the Senate (senators) and the House of Representatives (congressmen and congresswomen).

There are elections every two years. All members of the House of Representatives stand, as they do two-year terms. One-third of senators stand on a rotating basis because they do six-year terms.

In amongst that you have a presidential election every four years, gubernatorial and mayoral elections and various elections to state legislatures.

It is what makes the ‘mid-terms’ a thing. Two years into a presidency, all of the House of Reps and a third of Senate are in an election fight. Because of the way the American Constitution was founded, that can very much help or hamstring the sitting president.

I understand all of that. But AIUI,the QCult woman is up for election to the HoR. Have I got that bit wrong?

[hibsbollah]

I understand all of that. But AIUI,the QCult woman is up for election to the HoR. Have I got that bit wrong?

Yes you’re right, she’s going for election to the House of Representatives. I should have said she’s going to the Congress, not the Senate.

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes you’re right, she’s going for election to the House of Representatives. I should have said she’s going to the Congress, not the Senate.

Gotcha ta.

Still freaking scary though. I see people on social media, who I had previously tagged as "liberal", taking the QAnon line...with the justification that it's about "save the children"

[hibsbollah]

Gotcha ta.

Still freaking scary though. I see people on social media, who I had previously tagged as "liberal", taking the QAnon line...with the justification that it's about "save the children"

If I believed that Hilary and the rest of the deep state are running a paedophile ring out of FBI headquarters and a pizza delivery place in Washington DC I’d probably feel similarly...

On the other hand, Jeffrey Epstein :dunno: (Mikey Forrester Russian sailors....)

[Ronniekirk]

If I believed that Hilary and the rest of the deep state are running a paedophile ring out of FBI headquarters and a pizza delivery place in Washington DC I’d probably feel similarly...

On the other hand, Jeffrey Epstein :dunno: (Mikey Forrester Russian sailors....)

You just know the Epstein saga will have other people just as guilty but the system may not have the appetite to pursue everyone or take matters all the way
But listened to a video of a guy speaking g at Glasgow Green who is into the Deep State. Conspiracy and saying in Australia lockdown is happening in Melbourne as they are clearing the swamp
Talked about explosions and tunnels being exposed underground with children in them 280 ,and 52 were dead ,and so many needed treatment ffs
I like a good conspiracy theory and like to keep an open mind and do think there are several different agenda about

But you would have to be insane imo to believe what that guy was spouting
Worryingly there was a crowd there applauding him And don’t get me started on Reptilians ffs
Yes Child Trafficking is a growing and large problem but this is just not believable


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[Ozyhibby]

Have to admit I have no idea what Qanon is?


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[CropleyWasGod]

Have to admit I have no idea what Qanon is?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

You'll have read all about it on here before :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

You'll have read all about it on here before :greengrin

Aargh....wish I hadn’t read all that. The world is weird enough.


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[lapsedhibee]

Sounds like Bozo's relationship to the Brexiteers.

And Patel proving it, right on cue ... (https://twitter.com/gavinesler/status/1293815466188836867)

[Hibrandenburg]

And Patel proving it, right on cue ... (https://twitter.com/gavinesler/status/1293815466188836867)

It's a sad state of affairs when a governments strategy of gaining and remaining in power is not driven by their ideological values but by scrapping the bottom of the barrel and proposing policy designed to appeal to the stupid and bigoted masses. When power is the sole reason for seeking power, then we're all ****ed.

[makaveli1875]

It's a sad state of affairs when a governments strategy of gaining and remaining in power is not driven by their ideological values but by scrapping the bottom of the barrel and proposing policy designed to appeal to the stupid and bigoted masses. When power is the sole reason for seeking power, then we're all ****ed.

What would you do if you had her job?

[Tobias Funke]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

You'll have read all about it on here before :greengrin

I was once told, during a discussion about Trump, that I had been brainwashed by fake news from mainstream media. I was then told to look up QAnon and read up about the Clinton Body Count. I did and was astonished at some of the absolute bullsh*t folk end up believing. Since then I’ve developed an extreme dislike of conspiracy theorists, one of the reasons I gave that moron Slavers such a hard time on here.

[Hibrandenburg]

What would you do if you had her job?

I wouldn't take her job, I know her boss and I'm against Brexit which basically ripped up the EU deal that ensured France had a duty of responsibility to stop illegal immigrants crossing the channel. Why would I take a job with a government that I disagree with on almost every level?

[hibsbollah]

What would you do if you had her job?

What point are you trying to make? Be direct.

[CropleyWasGod]

What would you do if you had her job?

I wouldn't be making policy on the basis of pissing off my opponents.

[makaveli1875]

What point are you trying to make? Be direct.

It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

[Kato]

It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

What would you do if you had her job?

[makaveli1875]

What would you do if you had her job?

Id do the same as her and try and put a stop to it

[hibsbollah]

It was a question not making a point. The clue is in the question mark at the end

What do you think about her weird comments to her fellow MPs?

[makaveli1875]

What do you think about her weird comments to her fellow MPs?

I havnt seen them

[hibsbollah]

I havnt seen them

The link is a few posts ago.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just checking, that district is solidly Republican white blue collar territory, got 72% of the vote last time. So that’s an actual Q cult devotee guaranteed for a place in the Senate.

Are you referring to this lunatic?


https://youtu.be/Xvuz5o8yfvQ

[hibsbollah]

Are you referring to this lunatic?


https://youtu.be/Xvuz5o8yfvQ

The best bit there was when the anchor says ‘We laugh at this NOW, but...’
This is the future of the Republican Party unless the old WASPy establishment gets off its ass and does something about it.

[Keith_M]

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'


:rolleyes:

[Hibernia&Alba]

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'


:rolleyes:

The traditional American establishment. Kennedy was the sole Catholic president, and, sadly, many Southern Democrats voted against him because of his religion. Al Smith, a Catholic, ran against Herbert Hoover in 1928 and was subjected to a vicious sectarian campaign, accused of his loyalty being to Rome rather than Washington. After his defeat he said to the press, "I guess this country isn't ready for a Catholic in the White House".

[hibsbollah]

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant


I suppose it makes a change from 'the Jews are pulling the strings'


:rolleyes:

Its not a pejorative description :dunno: The Republican Party was born out of that genuinely conservative Protestantism brought by European immigrants to the industrial NE of the USA. In UK terms you’d call it One Nation Conservatism. It’s also a big part of the schism between the North and South that led to the civil war, super distrustful of the evangelical South. Just about all your early presidents were from that tradition.

[grunt]

Id do the same as her and try and put a stop to itWhy do you want to put a stop to it?

(I take it that the "it" we're talking about is the refugees attempting to get into the UK by risking their lives on small dinghies in the English Channel).

Why don't you want refugees to be allowed to enter the UK?

[Future17]

And Patel proving it, right on cue ... (https://twitter.com/gavinesler/status/1293815466188836867)

She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

[Hibrandenburg]

She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

Your granny was a sharp one and is bang on the money.

[Hibernia&Alba]

She is, as my granny would have said, a nasty piece of work.

Your granny was very polite. Mine would have said "she's a right f****** Tory b*****d :greengrin

Every edition of Question Time with Robin Day, she would shout "Tory *******" at the telly.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Hibernia&Alba]

The best bit there was when the anchor says ‘We laugh at this NOW, but...’
This is the future of the Republican Party unless the old WASPy establishment gets off its ass and does something about it.

It's born of desperation. In the past forty years, since Reagan was elected, millions of Americans have been dispossessed and are angry. They are drowning in debt, yet they voted for their own demise. Sadly, their culture is dominated by the lowest common denominator: don't analyse the systemic failings, just lash out at the weakest, so deflecting from real analysis. It's rather like The Sun and Daily Mail here telling us that social problems are totally disconnected from the policy causes. Lash out and condemn, don't analyse. There are plenty of idiots who accept the narrative: treat the symptom, not the cause; thus they continue to dig their own grave.

[Saturday Boy]

It's born of desperation. In the past forty years, since Reagan was elected, millions of Americans have been dispossessed and are angry. They are drowning in debt, yet they voted for their own demise. Sadly, their culture is dominated by the lowest common denominator: don't analyse the systemic failings, just lash out at the weakest, so deflecting from real analysis. It's rather like The Sun and Daily Mail here telling us that social problems are totally disconnected from the policy causes. Lash out and condemn, don't analyse. There are plenty of idiots who accept the narrative: treat the symptom, not the cause; thus they continue to dig their own grave.


I mentioned earlier in the thread, the blue collar paradox. Voting for the very people who moved their jobs to Mexico and the Far East.

I just don’t know how to break that cycle.