Winter transfer thread 2024/25

[Lendo]

Nothing against the guy, but I wouldn’t put Faycal Rherras down as a cult hero. :greengrin

:greengrin

[malcolm]

Nothing against the guy, but I wouldn’t put Faycal Rherras down as a cult hero. :greengrin

I don’t think faycal matters in respect to the attributes to be a cult hero :wink:

[hibbie02]

I thought Faycal Matter played for Hertz!


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[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I thought Faycal Matter played for Hertz!


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No one knows, Faycal Matter doesn’t show on a maroon strip.

[Hibs4185]

Uganda(e)?

Meant to reply to the person saying he was from Ghana!

[Hibernian2105]

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[CallumLaidlaw]

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[JohnM1875]

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Hopefully get it agreed asap and get him gone. We need time to get a replacement in.

[we are hibs]

Alan Nixon though eh? So could be equally as likely he will be signing a new 5 year deal going with his track record

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[HibbyAndy]

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Wonder how much cash we are talking about , Would be a good move for Elle and also us getting decent cash hopefully

[Donegal Hibby]

Mentioned on the Blackburn forum . If he goes I hope we get a decent deal for him . I wouldn’t fancy being a winger going there . Any time I’ve seen them play they have been brutal to watch…

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/37294-january-transfer-window/page/317/#comments

[JohnM1875]

Mentioned on the Blackburn forum . If he goes I hope we get a decent deal for him . I wouldn’t fancy being a winger going there . Any time I’ve seen them play they have been brutal to watch…

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/37294-january-transfer-window/page/317/#comments

Fans talking like Blackburn are skint going by the last few pages. I’d be wanting £2mil minimum for Youan. Can’t see Blackburn paying that.

[GloryGlory]

Fans talking like Blackburn are skint going by the last few pages. I’d be wanting £2mil minimum for Youan. Can’t see Blackburn paying that.

Especially since we will be due St Gallen a chunk of cash in a sell on fee.

[PatHead]

When does his contract end?

[GloryGlory]

When does his contract end?

2026?

[JohnM1875]

When does his contract end?

31st May 2026. You tend to pay more for players in Jan though.

[NC1875]

Youans medical at Blackburn might be a struggle with this chipped toe nail that’s kept him out for weeks 🤔

[Donegal Hibby]

Fans talking like Blackburn are skint going by the last few pages. I’d be wanting £2mil minimum for Youan. Can’t see Blackburn paying that.

£2mil would be the minimum I’d want for him too and doesn’t sound like they would pay that the way some of their fans are talking .. wonder if there’s away around it like getting most of it now and the rest in the summer especially if the player wants to go? 🤔

[HibeeMackenzie]

Imagine spitting the dummy out for the first few months of the season, coming back into the team for a month before the window opens to get yourself in the shop window for a big move, getting injured and dragging your heels refusing to get back into the team all to get your big move to… Blackburn

[darwenhibby]

Imagine spitting the dummy out for the first few months of the season, coming back into the team for a month before the window opens to get yourself in the shop window for a big move, getting injured and dragging your heels refusing to get back into the team all to get your big move to… Blackburn

I wonder if he will buy a house in Darwen??

[Since90+2]

Imagine spitting the dummy out for the first few months of the season, coming back into the team for a month before the window opens to get yourself in the shop window for a big move, getting injured and dragging your heels refusing to get back into the team all to get your big move to… Blackburn

To be fair Blackburn, and the English Championship, is the best level he is going to get a move to.

He's miles off the English Premier League and the money he would potentially get at Blackburn will likely be higher than anywhere else.

[badabing67]

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Really weird how Plymouth keep cropping up

[TrinityHFC]

Imagine spitting the dummy out for the first few months of the season, coming back into the team for a month before the window opens to get yourself in the shop window for a big move, getting injured and dragging your heels refusing to get back into the team all to get your big move to… Blackburn

None of that is true though is it? Anyway, I’ll give up on this one as for whatever reason people might have, personal comments about Youan aren’t going to stop.

[S4uzee]

I’d be saying minimum £2.5-3m

[superfurryhibby]

Imagine spitting the dummy out for the first few months of the season, coming back into the team for a month before the window opens to get yourself in the shop window for a big move, getting injured and dragging your heels refusing to get back into the team all to get your big move to… Blackburn

Just imagine eh :-) :aok:

[Nicho87]

Anything above 1 - 1.5 million we are going to be looking to do business

Think the lesson was learnt with Nisbet personally

[B.H.F.C]

I’d be saying minimum £2.5-3m

If we can get anything over £2m I’d be happy with that. Youan is a good player but, whatever the reason, we’ve had very little from him this year and it’s at that point of his contract where his value starts reducing.

If he goes, which I think he will, I hope he doesn’t go without us getting a proper replacement in.

[Unseen work]

Can see it being 1-1.5 for Youan plus a sell on fee

He wants away and has done for a while. Whilst I really rate him and think playing in his best position consistently he’d get really good numbers like his first season, for 2024 his numbers would be relatively low I think. Partly due to injury and partly due to not being selected or being right midfield in a flat midfield 4.

I think the club will just want money in and save on his wage.

[BSEJVT]

Tbh someone who wants to play for a very brief period of the year only to put himself in the shop window, if indeed that is the case, is of no earthy use to us and we should take the best offer we can get whether it's £1m or whatever and move on.

[jeffers]

Whatever we get St Gallen are due a “decent” cut of it.

[Keepthefaith]

it's possible that with blackburn just outside the play offs that any fee would include incentives around being in the playoffs (the final is a massive money spinner) with prospect of significant bonus IF rover get promoted, given the riches that come with that.

I'd never want to slate a player when we don't know the facts but it does seem like he's either been protecting himself or the club have protected him on the basis of being promised a move this window.

my worry is that it leaves us without much pace in the side so trust that we have another winger lined up as a quick replacement...be disappointed to see him go but you can't keep a player who doesn't want to be here...

[Lago]

it's possible that with blackburn just outside the play offs that any fee would include incentives around being in the playoffs (the final is a massive money spinner) with prospect of significant bonus IF rover get promoted, given the riches that come with that.

I'd never want to slate a player when we don't know the facts but it does seem like he's either been protecting himself or the club have protected him on the basis of being promised a move this window.

my worry is that it leaves us without much pace in the side so trust that we have another winger lined up as a quick replacement...be disappointed to see him go but you can't keep a player who doesn't want to be here...
This

[Brightside]

Youans medical at Blackburn might be a struggle with this chipped toe nail that’s kept him out for weeks 🤔

But I read on here that he was 100% injured.

[Brightside]

Whatever we get St Gallen are due a “decent” cut of it.

25%

[jeffers]

But I read on here that he was 100% injured.

🤣

[badabing67]

But I read on here that he was 100% injured.

By who....

[1875Sean]

Allan Campbell being linked with Dundee utd

[Heisenberg]

Allan Campbell being linked with Dundee utd

Sounds like it’s nearly done

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/1884708938924347392?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

[JohnM1875]

Sounds like it’s nearly done

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/1884708938924347392?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

Absolutely gutted at that.

[Unseen work]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal

[badabing67]

Sounds like it’s nearly done

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/1884708938924347392?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ


Will that be a loan or permanent

[1875Sean]

Will that be a loan or permanent

Sounds like a loan

[bingo70]

Absolutely gutted at that.

I’m pleased.

If he can’t get his game for Charlton and think his last loan spell at Millwall was a disaster too, he isn’t the player some are remembering him to be.

[keep the faith]

Sounds like it’s nearly done

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/1884708938924347392?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

The exact signing we should be making. We never seem to take an obvious route though with our recruitmen. So strange.

[badabing67]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal


A lot of people were nervous about Nisbet going to Aberdeen. I doubt we missed out. I think we weren't interested, hopefully we will see why before the window closes.

[JohnM1875]

I’m pleased.

If he can’t get his game for Charlton and think his last loan spell at Millwall was a disaster too, he isn’t the player some are remembering him to be.

He’s 26 and had a few bad loans. Plenty time to find his form again and I’d much rather he did it here than at Dundee United.

He’s not suddenly become pish after being brilliant for Motherwell and Luton.

[CapitalGreen]

” He’s absolutely dog ****… another total flop and waste of wages.. be good to offload”

Quote from a Charlton fan in the replies.

[jonny]

25%

Does that not only apply to any profit made on the player?

[04Sauzee]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal

Why? Said it before if it was the Allan Campbell that played for Luton in their promotion season fine, but he's had some poor loan moves and the Charlton fans have been dying for him to move on.

[Unseen work]

A lot of people were nervous about Nisbet going to Aberdeen. I doubt we missed out. I think we weren't interested, hopefully we will see why before the window closes.

Maybe.

I just think he’s a really good player in his prime years who knows the league and is well suited to it.

Triantis away end of season, Newell getting older and picking up more injuries and the rest of our midfielders rotation at best

Campbell brings energy, grit, quality and just a real drive to the midfield

[hibee1875]

Absolutely gutted at that.

Charlton fans have nothing good to say of him. Don’t think he’s shown anything since Luton’s promotion season

[Unseen work]

Why? Said it before if it was the Allan Campbell that played for Luton in their promotion season fine, but he's had some poor loan moves and the Charlton fans have been dying for him to move on.

Granted he’s had a couple of loans that haven’t quite worked out, but I think he’s shown enough for Motherwell and Luton to show he’s a good player and would be a good signing

[hibee1875]

Granted he’s had a couple of loans that haven’t quite worked out, but I think he’s shown enough for Motherwell and Luton to show he’s a good player and would be a good signing

Who’s to say he’s still that player though? Granted he’s a lot younger than shinnie but he didn’t come back to Aberdeen the same player that left.

Who’s to say he still has the same hunger that got him the move down south originally.

[Donegal Hibby]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal

Comments on the Charlton forum about him aren’t good .

[Lago]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal
Sad day

[04Sauzee]

Granted he’s had a couple of loans that haven’t quite worked out, but I think he’s shown enough for Motherwell and Luton to show he’s a good player and would be a good signing

16th May 2023 was his last appearance for Luton since then he's played 12 games for Millwall and wasn't used again by Millwall after December, not sure if his loan was cancelled? And he's played 17 times for Charlton playing 842 minutes

[Unseen work]

Who’s to say he’s still that player though? Granted he’s a lot younger than shinnie but he didn’t come back to Aberdeen the same player that left.

Who’s to say he still has the same hunger that got him the move down south originally.

Again I get what everyone is saying about the couple of poor loans, it’s just my personal opinion

You could use players like Fyvie, Scott Allan etc for making moves to England and it not going as planned but performing well up here

I just think he’d really suit us and do well here

[JohnM1875]

Again I get what everyone is saying about the couple of poor loans, it’s just my personal opinion

You could use players like Fyvie, Scott Allan etc for making moves to England and it not going as planned but performing well up here

I just think he’d really suit us and do well here

Same. Plenty players make the move down and come back up the road to have good careers.

Not a lot have as much success as Campbell did at Luton the first 18 months.

[Greenworld]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminalPeople have this thing about players from years gone by , recently he has not been great we can do better

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[04Sauzee]

MK Dons look to have won race for Jack Sanders. Fee of £150,000 agreed with Saints. Hard one to gauge but suspect player keen on move.

[007]

Again I get what everyone is saying about the couple of poor loans, it’s just my personal opinion

You could use players like Fyvie, Scott Allan etc for making moves to England and it not going as planned but performing well up here

I just think he’d really suit us and do well here

Presumably it was no longer working at Luton either, hence him being put out on loan.

[Unseen work]

Presumably it was no longer working at Luton either, hence him being put out on loan.

They got promoted to the prem….

[cloudy]

Gore was mentioned on here last week


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Gore not in the United u21 squad tonight..

[04Sauzee]

Gore not in the United u21 squad tonight..

I assume he plays regularly for the U21's? What type of player is Gore, anybody any ideas?

[Dmas]

I assume he plays regularly for the U21's? What type of player is Gore, anybody any ideas?

Much more mobile Dylan Levitt, be surprised if he comes now manneh has signed look very similar types

[HendoDelivered]

Dundee United have, and are continuing to recruit very well this season.

[Unseen work]

People have this thing about players from years gone by , recently he has not been great we can do better

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Years gone by, Jesus Christ he’s a 26 year old midfielder not a 35 year old has been

He was a stand out in this league, got a move to Luton where he played every week and was a key part in getting them promoted the the Premier League

Once promoted he got loaned out to Millwall and Charlton, not playing or performing as well as he’d like for 18 months

Maybe he was played in a different role, maybe it was the style of play or maybe he’s low on confidence and lost his way a bit.

The players we sign will be either on the way up or ones that lost their way a bit, Maolida for example?

We can do better? Can we? Because I’ve not been seeing better players than him sign for us much lately

[Unseen work]

Dundee United have, and are continuing to recruit very well this season.

I agree.

I think Ruari Paton, Fiorini and Campbell are three very shrewd signings this window

[04Sauzee]

Much more mobile Dylan Levitt, be surprised if he comes now manneh has signed look very similar types

Cheers 👍

[we are hibs]

Cheers [emoji106]I remember him playing really well at Murrayfield a few years back against Lyon


"The young midfielder's ability to hit the ball on the run from a tight position near the touchline, and deliver such an inviting cross to van de Beek, was something to behold. There was much more than this one highlight to his 45-minute display, though. A pocket powerhouse in the engine room, he switched positions effortlessly and cropped up at right-back when Marc Jurado tucked into more advanced spaces.*

The FA Youth Cup winner can be well pleased with a mature display that showcased his potential, enjoying playing alongside such an experienced figure as Fred."



A piece from the man Utd site about him that day

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[Greenworld]

Years gone by, Jesus Christ he’s a 26 year old midfielder not a 35 year old has been

He was a stand out in this league, got a move to Luton where he played every week and was a key part in getting them promoted the the Premier League

Once promoted he got loaned out to Millwall and Charlton, not playing or performing as well as he’d like for 18 months

Maybe he was played in a different role, maybe it was the style of play or maybe he’s low on confidence and lost his way a bit.

The players we sign will be either on the way up or ones that lost their way a bit, Maolida for example?

We can do better? Can we? Because I’ve not been seeing better players than him sign for us much latelyI believe so, but I'm not overly worried about getting him or not ,trust the process lol

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[Alex Trager]

Campbell going to DU with us not taking up interest is bad news IMO.

There are plentiful examples of players who went down south and who came back and done well despite doing poorly down there.

Campbell initially done v well as well.

I reckon that signing puts them in the driving seat for third even more so now.

[Hibernian Verse]

If Campbell was the player people seem to be remembering at least one of Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen would have gone for him if he’s available.


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[B.H.F.C]

Campbell going to DU with us not taking up interest is bad news IMO.

There are plentiful examples of players who went down south and who came back and done well despite doing poorly down there.

Campbell initially done v well as well.

I reckon that signing puts them in the driving seat for third even more so now.

Not sure I’d go far. There are three teams in the league with better resources than them who haven’t taken the chance despite all signing a midfielder (us, Aberdeen and Hearts).

He might turn out to be good for them, but he hasn’t been up to much for a couple of years.

[jeffers]

Not going to lie I wanted us to sign Campbell, but in this window not convinced he was a priority.

[Keepthefaith]

it really is Groundhog Day on here eh? start of the season folk creaming themselves over the players hearts and Aberdeen bought and then this window slagging off hibs and praising the work Dundee Utd have done signing players from league 2 and a midlfielder who may well have been a very good player but who hasn't shown it in the last 2 years.

it is possible that players such as Campbell may well do well at DU, but it's equally true that we have a really good morale and I'd question if it's something about his attitude or personality that has resulted in poor performances on loan. that may be key in grass decision not to sign him?

the way the club are talking there's def another player at least. Gray talking about something a bit special - he doesn't talk bollocks so I'd trust him to come good on this.

have patience my fellow Hibees and lets see what the next day or 2 brings...

[tamig]

Missing out on Allan Campbell to Dundee United is criminal

How have we missed out to anyone? Were we even in for him?

[Lago]

If Campbell was the player people seem to be remembering at least one of Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen would have gone for him if he’s available.


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How do you know they haven't?

[B.H.F.C]

Not going to lie I wanted us to sign Campbell, but in this window not convinced he was a priority.

Think that’s fairly reasonable.

I don’t think there would have been too many complaints had we signed him, but I’m not sure he would be the type that would make a real difference short term.

For me, the best thing we could do between now and the end of the window would be do something that stops the goals going in against us. We’ll need to replace Youan as well but even without him we’ve still scored in all our games including, it’s the one clean sheet across those games that has hurt us more.

[badabing67]

Campbell going to DU with us not taking up interest is bad news IMO.

There are plentiful examples of players who went down south and who came back and done well despite doing poorly down there.

Campbell initially done v well as well.

I reckon that signing puts them in the driving seat for third even more so now.


How can you make a judgement like that when the window is still open and you have no idea what our completed business looks like?

[Eyrie]

I'd have liked us to sign the Campbell we remember from his Motherwell days but his recent form down south suggests he isn't that player.

However if he has gone to Dundee United on loan then we have a chance to see how he gets on and can still look to sign him in the summer if he does well.

[PH91]

Allan Campbell isn't a technical player, he is an all energy, ball winning type but little flair. If we were signing another midfielder I'd like to see a more creative player, one that can be used against the teams that sit in and are hard to break down.

A top quality centre half would be top of my list, though. A goalie and a pacey forward (if Youan goes) would be good but less of a priority. Right wing back also needs looked at but I imagine we will do that in the summer and let Miller or Cadden go.

[NC1875]

Are you going to share the information on what the Hibs offer was?

To be fair, I bumped into someone I know at the Saints game in Perth. He’s well connected to the club and did say Youan was more than likely to be away and that Alan Campbell was one we were after.

Whether the Manneh signing has changed that I don’t know.

[Ribs1875]

Allan Campbell isn't a technical player, he is an all energy, ball winning type but little flair. If we were signing another midfielder I'd like to see a more creative player, one that can be used against the teams that sit in and are hard to break down.

A top quality centre half would be top of my list, though. A goalie and a pacey forward (if Youan goes) would be good but less of a priority. Right wing back also needs looked at but I imagine we will do that in the summer and let Miller or Cadden go.

A top quality centre half is hard to find in this day in age of modern day football. Var is to blame for that. Football before Var was a contact sport, now centre half's hesitate to make a challenge because any little contact made and it's a foul.

[wookie70]

it really is Groundhog Day on here eh? start of the season folk creaming themselves over the players hearts and Aberdeen bought and then this window slagging off hibs and praising the work Dundee Utd have done signing players from league 2 and a midlfielder who may well have been a very good player but who hasn't shown it in the last 2 years.

it is possible that players such as Campbell may well do well at DU, but it's equally true that we have a really good morale and I'd question if it's something about his attitude or personality that has resulted in poor performances on loan. that may be key in grass decision not to sign him?

the way the club are talking there's def another player at least. Gray talking about something a bit special - he doesn't talk bollocks so I'd trust him to come good on this.

have patience my fellow Hibees and lets see what the next day or 2 brings...

From what I remember most were saying Penrice and Spittal were good signings. That has been the case so far. Not spectacular but course and distance at this level. Campbell has proven he can play at this level too and I liked the idea of signing him. Manneh is a different player and I have no idea how he will do for us. Will it be the promise shown in the showreel or a player that can play at the pace and physicality needed in our league. For me you need a mix of proven solid players and then take a gamble on a few. I'd agree with you point about morale though but I have no idea if Campbell would be an issue in that regard

[SHODAN]

I think it was either Manneh or Campbell and not both.

[Winston Ingram]

Allan Campbell isn't a technical player, he is an all energy, ball winning type but little flair. If we were signing another midfielder I'd like to see a more creative player, one that can be used against the teams that sit in and are hard to break down.

A top quality centre half would be top of my list, though. A goalie and a pacey forward (if Youan goes) would be good but less of a priority. Right wing back also needs looked at but I imagine we will do that in the summer and let Miller or Cadden go.

I’m sorry, but he’s a very technical player. He’s a playmaker.

[JimBHibees]

Campbell going to DU with us not taking up interest is bad news IMO.

There are plentiful examples of players who went down south and who came back and done well despite doing poorly down there.

Campbell initially done v well as well.

I reckon that signing puts them in the driving seat for third even more so now.

Assuming the guy Manneh is seen as a better prospect

[JimBHibees]

I think it was either Manneh or Campbell and not both.

Likely was

[JimBHibees]

Years gone by, Jesus Christ he’s a 26 year old midfielder not a 35 year old has been

He was a stand out in this league, got a move to Luton where he played every week and was a key part in getting them promoted the the Premier League

Once promoted he got loaned out to Millwall and Charlton, not playing or performing as well as he’d like for 18 months

Maybe he was played in a different role, maybe it was the style of play or maybe he’s low on confidence and lost his way a bit.

The players we sign will be either on the way up or ones that lost their way a bit, Maolida for example?

We can do better? Can we? Because I’ve not been seeing better players than him sign for us much lately

Possibly Manneh

[Alex Trager]

How can you make a judgement like that when the window is still open and you have no idea what our completed business looks like?

I’m basing it on the fact that 1) they’re already in third and 2) he’s a quality player.

[Since452]

If Campbell was the player people seem to be remembering at least one of Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen would have gone for him if he’s available.


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Correct. He's not signing for Dundee United if one of those teams are seriously wanting to sign him either.

[Hibernian Verse]

I’m sorry, but he’s a very technical player. He’s a playmaker.

6 assists in the last three and a half seasons?

[worcesterhibby]

From what I remember most were saying Penrice and Spittal were good signings. That has been the case so far. Not spectacular but course and distance at this level. Campbell has proven he can play at this level too and I liked the idea of signing him. Manneh is a different player and I have no idea how he will do for us. Will it be the promise shown in the showreel or a player that can play at the pace and physicality needed in our league. For me you need a mix of proven solid players and then take a gamble on a few. I'd agree with you point about morale though but I have no idea if Campbell would be an issue in that regard

the idea that Campbell will definitely come back to Scotland and pick up where he left off, despite the fact he has been mostly dreadful for the last two years is nonesense. Every signing is a risk, and signing someone who seems to have lost his mojo over a very extended period of time is definitely a risk.

i have no issue with people stating their opinion that they “think” Campbell will be a good signing, he may very well be, but stating it as a fact and suggesting Hibs are stupid for not realising it’s a fact is nonsense.

Campbell is also very unlikely to make his new club much money in transfer fees, as he’s already gone down south and failed.

[GreenPJ]

I would prefer us to push the boat out for Triantis on a perm rather than Campbell. We are still missing a creative element at the top of the midfield but Campbell would not be that person (and either is Triantis obviously).

[Centre Hawf]

If Campbell was the player people seem to be remembering at least one of Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen would have gone for him if he’s available.


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This. We all demand we sign players best on a memory of them from 4 years ago at Motherwell and some decent write ups from 3 seasons ago in the Championship. But what we don't know is the rest of what goes on around them.

He's been poor now for going on 2 seasons. He seemed to be quite heavily injured while on loan at Millwall and has struggled to make any impact in League 1 with Charlton. Perhaps his injury record is more serious than we know? Maybe he has off the field problems? There could be a multitude of reasons why we've decided not to pursue him as an option over some other guys we prefer.

The time to dig out the club for not signing him would be if he goes there and rips it up, right now we're all guessing just as much as the recruitment team on what he's currently capable of in the Scottish Premiership.

[Tyler Durden]

I’m sorry, but he’s a very technical player. He’s a playmaker.

I don't think you'll get many agreeing with that assessment. Not the player I've watched.

[04Sauzee]

I'm still very surprised we have had 30 days off the window being open and we are going into our last game before it slams shut and we haven't made a signing who is likely to be in the squad Vs Aberdeen. Hope the pen makes a speedy return.

[badabing67]

I would prefer us to push the boat out for Triantis on a perm rather than Campbell. We are still missing a creative element at the top of the midfield but Campbell would not be that person (and either is Triantis obviously).

If we do sell Elle that could be possible this window.

[blackpoolhibs]

I wonder if he will buy a house in Darwen??

You could offer to drive him around Duane, and take him to Turf Moor every day. :wink:

[Alex Trager]

the idea that Campbell will definitely come back to Scotland and pick up where he left off, despite the fact he has been mostly dreadful for the last two years is nonesense. Every signing is a risk, and signing someone who seems to have lost his mojo over a very extended period of time is definitely a risk.

i have no issue with people stating their opinion that they “think” Campbell will be a good signing, he may very well be, but stating it as a fact and suggesting Hibs are stupid for not realising it’s a fact is nonsense.

Campbell is also very unlikely to make his new club much money in transfer fees, as he’s already gone down south and failed.

Sometimes you need players who will improve your team and help you win games of football and perhaps get you european games and trophies.

I appreciate and take your point on board re ‘Campbell MAY get back to his best, he may not’ but to counter your point re transfer fees - they don’t all have to be looked upon as potential big future transfers.

[Alex Trager]

I'm still very surprised we have had 30 days off the window being open and we are going into our last game before it slams shut and we haven't made a signing who is likely to be in the squad Vs Aberdeen. Hope the pen makes a speedy return.

This is the crux of the matter for me, and has been since the window opened.

It’s entirely possible (just like the alternative is possible) that had we had players in sharp we could be 4 points better off having beat the two ****test teams in the country.

I know I’ve said this 100 times and the arguments that counter it.

It is immensely frustrating to be where we are with signings and in the league.

[evy]

Campbell in January is August's Nisbet (even down to the 'hasn't done anything in the last 18 months), can hardly say we're missing on having not singed him.

[TrinityHFC]

This is the crux of the matter for me, and has been since the window opened.

It’s entirely possible (just like the alternative is possible) that had we had players in sharp we could be 4 points better off having beat the two ****test teams in the country.

I know I’ve said this 100 times and the arguments that counter it.

It is immensely frustrating to be where we are with signings and in the league.

I think that is vastly over estimating the impact new signings can have immediately. Hardly anyone has ever come in and been the difference in their first one or two games.

The squad is in a good place, with players coming back. It is pretty spurious to suggest new players would have gained us points in the last few games.

As for the league placing, nothing at all new signings can do to erase the start we have already had…

[Lago]

I'm still very surprised we have had 30 days off the window being open and we are going into our last game before it slams shut and we haven't made a signing who is likely to be in the squad Vs Aberdeen. Hope the pen makes a speedy return.
Don't hold your breath.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think that is vastly over estimating the impact new signings can have immediately. Hardly anyone has ever come in and been the difference in their first one or two games.

The squad is in a good place, with players coming back. It is pretty spurious to suggest new players would have gained us points in the last few games.

As for the league placing, nothing at all new signings can do to erase the start we have already had…

That’s absolute nonsense. Hardly anyone has ever come in and been the difference in their first one or two games? It’s hardly a rarity to see players scoring or assisting on their debut, or having great performances in defence etc.

[TrinityHFC]

That’s absolute nonsense. Hardly anyone has ever come in and been the difference in their first one or two games? It’s hardly a rarity to see players scoring or assisting on their debut, or having great performances in defence etc.

Disagree. The suggestion was that signings could have been the difference in recent games. That would have to be some performance for a new player. Can you give examples where it has happened in recent years at Hibs?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Disagree. The suggestion was that signings could have been the difference in recent games. That would have to be some performance for a new player. Can you give examples where it has happened in recent years at Hibs?

In our current squad we have Martin Boyle who scored on his return. We had Myko who had an assist in his first game in his first spell, Bowie scored in his second appearance, Youan assisted in 3 of his first 4 games for Hibs, Ekpiteta scored on his debut, O’Hora scored in his second game. Scott Allan returned under Lennon and was instantly excellent, Kamberi and MacLaren the same. If I could be arsed I could likely find stacks of other examples.

Theres millions of examples of players coming in and making an instant impact the world over, and plenty at Hibs.

[007]

I'm still very surprised we have had 30 days off the window being open and we are going into our last game before it slams shut and we haven't made a signing who is likely to be in the squad Vs Aberdeen. Hope the pen makes a speedy return.

Is that how were putting it now? Instead of it being we haven't signed anyone, it is now (because Manneh's work permit won't be through for Saturday) we've not brought in anyone for the squad v Aberdeen. I'd rather we'd do our best to get in the players higher up the wishlist, no matter how long it takes, than go down the list to get someone in to be in the squad against a team that's got 4 points out of the last 39. Particularly if, like Manneh, they'll be signing permanently to summer 2028.

[04Sauzee]

Is that how were putting it now? Instead of it being we haven't signed anyone, it is now (because Manneh's work permit won't be through for Saturday) we've not brought in anyone for the squad v Aberdeen. I'd rather we'd do our best to get in the players higher up the wishlist, no matter how long it takes, than go down the list to get someone in to be in the squad against a team that's got 4 points out of the last 39. Particularly if, like Manneh, they'll be signing permanently to summer 2028.
I haven't said what I'd prefer is to do. I'd quite obviously like us to be making the correct decisions and signing the correct players, at the same time I can still be surprised we haven't been able to do that in 30 days?

[Loopz]

In our current squad we have Martin Boyle who scored on his return. We had Myko who had an assist in his first game in his first spell, Bowie scored in his second appearance, Youan assisted in 3 of his first 4 games for Hibs, Ekpiteta scored on his debut, O’Hora scored in his second game. Scott Allan returned under Lennon and was instantly excellent, Kamberi and MacLaren the same. If I could be arsed I could likely find stacks of other examples.

Theres millions of examples of players coming in and making an instant impact the world over, and plenty at Hibs.

Maolida

[Ribs1875]

From what I've seen over the past few years our recruitment team (granted are a working progress) have delved into the wrong markets. We have either signed untested/lack of experience or went the other way and dragged our heels on marquee players, only to be outbidded because our initial bids are weak.

It no surprise we have only made one signing thus far. I am confident we will get some more in and out before the window closes. That said, as a club this season so far has highlighted the lack of ambition from top to bottom. Ian Gordon in an interview hides behind the fact the marketing is up 3 times what it was before. The improvements to hospitality, stadium and the one that pisses me off the most making the league cup final and Europe. If we are making finals and not winning them, then that's not an achievement.

They definitely need to step it up and start being more productive.

[easty]

From what I've seen over the past few years our recruitment team (granted are a working progress) have delved into the wrong markets. We have either signed untested/lack of experience or went the other way and dragged our heels on marquee players, only to be outbidded because our initial bids are weak.

It no surprise we have only made one signing thus far. I am confident we will get some more in and out before the window closes. That said, as a club this season so far has highlighted the lack of ambition from top to bottom. Ian Gordon in an interview hides behind the fact the marketing is up 3 times what it was before. The improvements to hospitality, stadium and the one that pisses me off the most making the league cup final and Europe. If we are making finals and not winning them, then that's not an achievement.

They definitely need to step it up and start being more productive.

Making finals is more of an achievement than not making finals. I'm not going to go out and celebrate a cup final defeat, but getting there is still an achievement.

[Wilson]

I haven't said what I'd prefer is to do. I'd quite obviously like us to be making the correct decisions and signing the correct players, at the same time I can still be surprised we haven't been able to do that in 30 days?

Have you any reason to believe the club aren't trying their damndest to get our top targets in and that they too would like it done as quickly as possible?

I havent. It takes as long as it takes.

[Alex Trager]

In our current squad we have Martin Boyle who scored on his return. We had Myko who had an assist in his first game in his first spell, Bowie scored in his second appearance, Youan assisted in 3 of his first 4 games for Hibs, Ekpiteta scored on his debut, O’Hora scored in his second game. Scott Allan returned under Lennon and was instantly excellent, Kamberi and MacLaren the same. If I could be arsed I could likely find stacks of other examples.

Theres millions of examples of players coming in and making an instant impact the world over, and plenty at Hibs.

McCart and the new striker Hearts have both scored at the weekend.

Without their goals, the score is 1-2.

So, I agree with you agreeing with me.

Had we had players in and playing, we most certainly could be on the coat tails of DU.

[Ribs1875]

Making finals is more of an achievement than not making finals. I'm not going to go out and celebrate a cup final defeat, but getting there is still an achievement.

We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

[scoopyboy]

Maolida

You’re joking

After his first game against Rangers everyone was wanting him out branding him a flop and would never be a player

[04Sauzee]

Have you any reason to believe the club aren't trying their damndest to get our top targets in and that they too would like it done as quickly as possible?

I havent. It takes as long as it takes.
I haven't said they aren't trying I haven't said I'm angry, I haven't said we should do things differently. I said I'm surprised we haven't managed to get anyone into the squad for the Aberdeen game. I'm absolutely positive Hibs recruitment have been and still ate trying very hard.

[tamig]

Maolida

Roundly condemned on here following his debut against the hun. Some truly shameful comments. “Worst debut by a Hibs striker I’ve ever seen” - and other such nonsense. All available on here for anybody who cares to look back.

[Centre Hawf]

We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

They are achievements, of course you'd like to win them all and it's almightily frustrating seeing us lose them. Lord knows we've lost our fair share, but on the flip side we've also as a club been quite spoiled in the last 25 years or so with the amount of trips to Hampden/Finals. It's just sadly our success rate leaves a lot to be desired in certain moments. While I'd love to trade most of our failed visits to these finals for even just one more successful trip instead, it doesn't really work that way.

I'd rather have the memories of going to these games and the journey through the rounds to get there with my close friends and family than be a club like Dundee and never get there at all.

[tamig]

McCart and the new striker Hearts have both scored at the weekend.

Without their goals, the score is 1-2.

So, I agree with you agreeing with me.

Had we had players in and playing, we most certainly could be on the coat tails of DU.
Had we not conceded late goals, had guys sent off and had crap VAR decisions, we’d be clear in third. All ifs and buts. No point speculating what might have happened with earlier signings.

[Gordy M]

McCart and the new striker Hearts have both scored at the weekend.

Without their goals, the score is 1-2.

So, I agree with you agreeing with me.

Had we had players in and playing, we most certainly could be on the coat tails of DU.

What if we had signed a new keeper and he doesnt save the first penalty on Sat? There is absolutely no way of knowing what would, or not, have happened?

[Loopz]

You’re joking

After his first game against Rangers everyone was wanting him out branding him a flop and would never be a player

The conversation is about getting players in early to make a difference (which MM undoubtedly did), not just debut performances.

[flash]

McCart and the new striker Hearts have both scored at the weekend.

Without their goals, the score is 1-2.

So, I agree with you agreeing with me.

Had we had players in and playing, we most certainly could be on the coat tails of DU.

Pretty certain if they hadn't been playing Hertz would have had 2 other boys in the team and might very well have won anyway.

[we are hibs]

In our current squad we have Martin Boyle who scored on his return. We had Myko who had an assist in his first game in his first spell, Bowie scored in his second appearance, Youan assisted in 3 of his first 4 games for Hibs, Ekpiteta scored on his debut, O’Hora scored in his second game. Scott Allan returned under Lennon and was instantly excellent, Kamberi and MacLaren the same. If I could be arsed I could likely find stacks of other examples.

Theres millions of examples of players coming in and making an instant impact the world over, and plenty at Hibs.Fans favourite Demetri Mitchell may have scored a back post goal on his debut at Easter Road, can't remember who we were playing

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[Baader]

Fans favourite Demetri Mitchell may have scored a back post goal on his debut at Easter Road, can't remember who we were playing

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Livingston. Lost 3-2. Maloney was manager

[04Sauzee]

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[Hibs3-2]

Over the last year our signings, as a whole, have been decent. Obviously there are some poor ones but no manager/club has a 100% success rate with signings

Moalida
Marcondes
Bowie
N cadden
Triantis
Gayle
Iredale

Guys like hoilett smith marv ohora have been fine

Poor has been kwon bursik, mayenda (despite showing hes a good player at sunderland) and myko (who everyone wanted back)

[random sub]

Roundly condemned on here following his debut against the hun. Some truly shameful comments. “Worst debut by a Hibs striker I’ve ever seen” - and other such nonsense. All available on here for anybody who cares to look back.
I haven’t looked back over the comments, and no doubt some of them will indeed be shameful, but it was a very poor debut performance from what I remember. It was good that he turned it around!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Fans favourite Demetri Mitchell may have scored a back post goal on his debut at Easter Road, can't remember who we were playing

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:agree:

Melkersen scored a double on his debut. Keep in mind this is just guys who have a statistically measurable influence on games and not considering guys who have had excellent performances without a goal or assist.

The idea that a player pretty much never comes in and does anything of note in their first couple of games is so far off it.

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If this was true then having Bowie from Fulham might help as they will know each other presumably.

[Alex Trager]

What if we had signed a new keeper and he doesnt save the first penalty on Sat? There is absolutely no way of knowing what would, or not, have happened?

I’m not saying that I know what would have happened if we had signed new players.

I’m saying I would feel more comfortable having had new players in early.
I am also saying they could have had a positive impact on the team’s performance resulting in two wins.
That’s not untrue.

Neither is the fact they could have also lost us the games.

Both are equally true.

This current squad is not good enough. We are sat in the league where we are for a reason.
Additions could and should improve it.
The earlier the better. More time positively impact the team and results.

[flash]

:agree:

Melkersen scored a double on his debut. Keep in mind this is just guys who have a statistically measurable influence on games and not considering guys who have had excellent performances without a goal or assist.

The idea that a player pretty much never comes in and does anything of note in their first couple of games is so far off it.

I thought Gareth Evans was the next Johann Cruyff after his debut.

[007]

I haven't said what I'd prefer is to do. I'd quite obviously like us to be making the correct decisions and signing the correct players, at the same time I can still be surprised we haven't been able to do that in 30 days?

Ok. It was just a strange way to put it when we have signed someone.

[allmodcons]

McCart and the new striker Hearts have both scored at the weekend.

Without their goals, the score is 1-2.

So, I agree with you agreeing with me.

Had we had players in and playing, we most certainly could be on the coat tails of DU.

That's an extremely simplistic approach to football.

[Unseen work]

If this was true then having Bowie from Fulham might help as they will know each other presumably.

Wonder if the apparent targets from down south are from Garvan Stewart’s knowledge of them from his time at Bournemouth

Tyrese Hall, Dan Gore and now this lad all linked

[Gordy M]

I’m not saying that I know what would have happened if we had signed new players.

I’m saying I would feel more comfortable having had new players in early.
I am also saying they could have had a positive impact on the team’s performance resulting in two wins.
That’s not untrue.

Neither is the fact they could have also lost us the games.

Both are equally true.

This current squad is not good enough. We are sat in the league where we are for a reason.
Additions could and should improve it.
The earlier the better. More time positively impact the team and results.

I agree that the earlier the better, however, what if our targets werent available? Do you think Hibs are just waiting til the end of the window for the sake of it? Id rather we get the right person rather than say well our target isnt available now so lets get someone else in? Surley that makes sense?

[James70]

I thought Gareth Evans was the next Johann Cruyff after his debut.
I remember Terry Venables who was at the game was quoted in the press as wondering how his own scouts hadn't spotted him!

[007]

This is the crux of the matter for me, and has been since the window opened.

It’s entirely possible (just like the alternative is possible) that had we had players in sharp we could be 4 points better off having beat the two ****test teams in the country.

I know I’ve said this 100 times and the arguments that counter it.

It is immensely frustrating to be where we are with signings and in the league.

If we have to wait a few weeks to get in the players we want then that's more important to me than going down the list for the next targets. It is entirely possible new players could have have played in those 2 games and made mistakes that lost us the games instead of us drawing them.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

This current squad is not good enough. We are sat in the league where we are for a reason.
Additions could and should improve it.
The earlier the better. More time positively impact the team and results.

By that logic, will having Bowie and other returning from injury not have the same positive impact?

[04Sauzee]

Ok. It was just a strange way to put it when we have signed someone.

Nothing strange really tbh

[Lago]

Josh Landers signs for West Ham according to their website.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Josh Landers signs for West Ham according to their website.

Wonder what sort of fee, surely six figures.

[HIBS NUTS]

Wonder what sort of fee, surely six figures.
Yous should look at development thread, I knew he was going 3 days ago. 🤣

[CapitalGreen]

:agree:

Melkersen scored a double on his debut. Keep in mind this is just guys who have a statistically measurable influence on games and not considering guys who have had excellent performances without a goal or assist.

The idea that a player pretty much never comes in and does anything of note in their first couple of games is so far off it.

That wasn’t Melkerson’s debut, his debut was away to Dundee.

[BoomtownHibees]

That wasn’t Melkerson’s debut, his debut was away to Dundee.

Yep, was his first start I think

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[badabing67]

If this was true then having Bowie from Fulham might help as they will know each other presumably.

Could even of recommended him in the first place

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Yous should look at development thread, I knew he was going 3 days ago. 🤣

Congratulations?

[Lago]

Yous should look at development thread, I knew he was going 3 days ago. 🤣
You didn't have confirmation he had signed 😂

[HIBS NUTS]

You didn't have confirmation he had signed 😂
Yeh just guessed
SDG didn’t phone me.

[BoomtownHibees]

Could even of recommended him in the first place

*have

(Sorry, pet hate and Mikey Stewart is bad for saying it)

[Lago]

Yeh just guessed
SDG didn’t phone me.
What he didn't keep you in the know, how remiss of him 😂

[HIBS NUTS]

What he didn't keep you in the know, how remiss of him 😂
Yip I’ve complained to the black knights.
It won’t happen again.

[gorgie greens]

You could offer to drive him around Duane, and take him to Turf Moor every day. :wink:

Funnily enough my son has a house in Darwen so your not the only Hibby there

[King Cosell]

Imagine how gutted we'd all be if Josh Landers scored a hattrick against Chelsea on Monday and there was a bidding war for him at the end of the season.

[04Sauzee]

I'm not sure is this would be instead of or as well as Youan? Notice this boy is a striker who can play LW

Blackburn Rovers are at the final stage of talks for Augustus Kargbo to join the team on a permanent transfer from Cesena worth around €1.2m + add-ons. ⚪️🔵⏳️ #Rovers #transfers

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm not sure is this would be instead of or as well as Youan? Notice this boy is a striker who can play LW

Blackburn Rovers are at the final stage of talks for Augustus Kargbo to join the team on a permanent transfer from Cesena worth around €1.2m + add-ons. ⚪️🔵⏳️ #Rovers #transfers

How many working toes does he have?

[HIBS NUTS]

Imagine how gutted we'd all be if Josh Landers scored a hattrick against Chelsea on Monday and there was a bidding war for him at the end of the season.
The Editor of the London standard (I don’t know him) says Josh landers is it be integrated into West Ham’s academy squad, so that’s probably unlikely.
Let’s hope he does well and we get a sell on in the future.

[Centre Hawf]

The Editor of the London standard (I don’t know him) says Josh landers is it be integrated into West Ham’s academy squad, so that’s probably unlikely.
Let’s hope he does well and we get a sell on in the future.

The reality is he'll be very lucky to ever see a senior squad. He might get to play in the EFL Trophy for the U21s if he lasts long enough in their academy to get to that point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That wasn’t Melkerson’s debut, his debut was away to Dundee.

Apologies, so it was. Was his third appearance from the looks of things.

[JimBHibees]

I’d be saying minimum £2.5-3m

Personally don't think it will be anywhere near that

[JimBHibees]

Imagine how gutted we'd all be if Josh Landers scored a hattrick against Chelsea on Monday and there was a bidding war for him at the end of the season.

He will be an academy player. Wonder how good that route is for young Scottish players. Must be a real chance of them getting lost in that goldfish bowl rather them being not too far from Hibs first team

[King Cosell]

The Editor of the London standard (I don’t know him) says Josh landers is it be integrated into West Ham’s academy squad, so that’s probably unlikely.
Let’s hope he does well and we get a sell on in the future.

There could be an outbreak of flu in the first team camp.

[CropleyWasGod]

He will be an academy player. Wonder how good that route is for young Scottish players. Must be a real chance of them getting lost in that goldfish bowl rather them being not too far from Hibs first team

It worked for Kieron Bowie. So far.

[scoopyboy]

Imagine how gutted we'd all be if Josh Landers scored a hattrick against Chelsea on Monday and there was a bidding war for him at the end of the season.

Do you think that's a real possibility?

[Ribs1875]

They are achievements, of course you'd like to win them all and it's almightily frustrating seeing us lose them. Lord knows we've lost our fair share, but on the flip side we've also as a club been quite spoiled in the last 25 years or so with the amount of trips to Hampden/Finals. It's just sadly our success rate leaves a lot to be desired in certain moments. While I'd love to trade most of our failed visits to these finals for even just one more successful trip instead, it doesn't really work that way.

I'd rather have the memories of going to these games and the journey through the rounds to get there with my close friends and family than be a club like Dundee and never get there at all.

I completely get where you are coming from.

We had difficult periods from almost going out the box until farmer stepped in, sky pulling their deal in the early 00s. In that time building 4 new stands and training ground. Can argue this is why we never competed much back then. There is no getting away from the fact in those years we seen highs and lows.

I felt we got to where we should be as a club under lennon in his 2nd full season. The mentality of the club was all about winning and putting up a fight. We were tough, played nice football and signed (excluding loans) a much better calibre back then than what we've seen in the last few years. Showing too much sentiment towards players who were past it halted our progress. That is the past now, but this summer is massive for the club.

[JimBHibees]

It worked for Kieron Bowie. So far.

Yes true

[Unseen work]

Wonder if the Black Knights aren’t fully convinced on Gray and we’re holding out on players until the summer as we’ll have a full reset with the amount out of contract we have

Well documented they weren’t keen on him and they were ruthless with Gary O’Neill at Bournemouth

Pure speculation on my part however just a thought as the league is still so tight and we could end up anywhere, maybe he needs to do a bit more to convince he is the man to take the club forward long term

[ruthven_raiders]

Do you think that's a real possibility?

He's going into the academy group so not a possibility...

[Centre Hawf]

I completely get where you are coming from.

We had difficult periods from almost going out the box until farmer stepped in, sky pulling their deal in the early 00s. In that time building 4 new stands and training ground. Can argue this is why we never competed much back then. There is no getting away from the fact in those years we seen highs and lows.

I felt we got to where we should be as a club under lennon in his 2nd full season. The mentality of the club was all about winning and putting up a fight. We were tough, played nice football and signed (excluding loans) a much better calibre back then than what we've seen in the last few years. Showing too much sentiment towards players who were past it halted our progress. That is the past now, but this summer is massive for the club.

I think the post cup win era, especially the brief period where Lennon had it held together, was probably our strongest spell since the Mowbray era, if not McLeish, but unfortunately football is very cyclical and nothing can really last forever at this level.

There's not a lot to separate the rest of us outside the old firm and it's really a case of trying to put together as best a squad as you can every year. Aberdeen were arguably the second force in Scotland for a while and it's debatable if they're even the third at this point. In fact no one has finished third in consecutive seasons since Rangers did when they first came back up because Aberdeen pipped them to second twice. Now look at them.

I'm in my 30s and I very much doubt in my life time Hibs will ever have a sustained period of relative success lasting more than 3 seasons if I'm lucky. I honestly have to just enjoy the moments they do give me in isolation rather than fretting about where we'll be in five years time off the back of it.

[Nicho87]

Liam on DTS podcast made a terrific point of saying this is one of our longest unbeaten runs in 30 years or something to that effect

Plus we’ve only had 3/4 other runs matching or longer unbeaten in those years

Absolutely embrace the good form - as frustrating as it was to drop points last week it’s a much more positive feeling to keep the run going for another week.

[California-Hibs]

Wonder if the Black Knights aren’t fully convinced on Gray and we’re holding out on players until the summer as we’ll have a full reset with the amount out of contract we have

Well documented they weren’t keen on him and they were ruthless with Gary O’Neill at Bournemouth

Pure speculation on my part however just a thought as the league is still so tight and we could end up anywhere, maybe he needs to do a bit more to convince he is the man to take the club forward long term


Yep. That's the thoughts I've been having. Time will tell..

[Unseen work]

Landers confirmed as away for a 6 figure fee and future sell on %

[Liam89]

He will be an academy player. Wonder how good that route is for young Scottish players. Must be a real chance of them getting lost in that goldfish bowl rather them being not too far from Hibs first team

And how many of our academy don't make it to our first team and get lost in the Scottish goldfish bowl? And if they don't succeed at Hibs, they're not far away from playing semi-pro / juniors.

Not sure it's any higher odds of having a successful career staying at a Scottish team rather than going down to an academy with vastly more resources (and potentially coaching) than ours.

[Gordy M]

Wonder if the Black Knights aren’t fully convinced on Gray and we’re holding out on players until the summer as we’ll have a full reset with the amount out of contract we have

Well documented they weren’t keen on him and they were ruthless with Gary O’Neill at Bournemouth

Pure speculation on my part however just a thought as the league is still so tight and we could end up anywhere, maybe he needs to do a bit more to convince he is the man to take the club forward long term

Sorry i might have missed something, but why would BKG not wanting Gray have any effect on who we sign?They dont own the club and as far as im aware arent continuing to put money in? They own a share of the club, and may provide advice etc but dont run it?

[Unseen work]

Sorry i might have missed something, but why would BKG not wanting Gray have any effect on who we sign?They dont own the club and as far as im aware arent continuing to put money in? They own a share of the club, and may provide advice etc but dont run it?

It might come down to their “they’re not listening but think they might start” or similar, comment made by foley last year.

I can see them giving advice to Hibs due to the success Bournemouth etc are having. Their advice might just be don’t get too excited yet and sign a load of players for Gray until he can show it consistently over X amount of games

Again like I say, pure conjecture on my part.

Just trying to make an excuse for our lack of activity!

[SHODAN]

When does the window close? Midnight on Saturday?

[04Sauzee]

When does the window close? Midnight on Saturday?

11pm on the 3rd

[Gordy M]

It might come down to their “they’re not listening but think they might start” or similar, comment made by foley last year.

I can see them giving advice to Hibs due to the success Bournemouth etc are having. Their advice might just be don’t get too excited yet and sign a load of players for Gray until he can show it consistently over X amount of games

Again like I say, pure conjecture on my part.

Just trying to make an excuse for our lack of activity!
Hahaha yeh i get its been a pretty quiet window so far. I just dont see BKG standing in the way of a possible tilt at third place because they think DG may be replaced in the summer. Well i hope not. I still have a sneaky suspicion that we will sign a quality player before Monday eve.

[A Hi-Bee]

11pm on the 3rd

Loadsatime for a couple of big signings, loan or otherwise.

[Colr]

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletic/wigan-athletic-transfers-kristian-sekularac-hibs-fulham-leyton-orient-4967615

[Lago]

Landers confirmed as away for a 6 figure fee and future sell on %
I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

[Cat Stanton]

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletic/wigan-athletic-transfers-kristian-sekularac-hibs-fulham-leyton-orient-4967615

Ooh, proper rumour!

[Allant1981]

I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

Not good enough because they haven't played first team yet? He will be no where near the west ham first team, might not even be in the u23s yet. Hibs may well have wanted him to stay for all we know

[TrinityHFC]

I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

There’s a big difference in being a potential first team player for them in a few years to being ready for our first team now.

[04Sauzee]

St Johnstone sign midfielder Elliot Watt on loan from Burton Albion for the remainder of the season.

[Unseen work]

I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

Tbf I can’t hold it against Hibs.

There will be loads of young players not getting game time for their club but show a lot of promise. Premier league teams will buy these players for peanuts (for them) with the view of developing them a bit and trying to make a profit.

You’ve seen it with loads of Scottish players going down to England lately, not getting a look in and now back in Scotland

I’ve seen a very little amount of Landers, but imo he’s nowhere near starting ahead of a Bowie, Boyle, Gayle, Myk or Youan.

[AugustaHibs]

Tbf I can’t hold it against Hibs.

There will be loads of young players not getting game time for their club but show a lot of promise. Premier league teams will buy these players for peanuts (for them) with the view of developing them a bit and trying to make a profit.

You’ve seen it with loads of Scottish players going down to England lately, not getting a look in and now back in Scotland

I’ve seen a very little amount of Landers, but imo he’s nowhere near starting ahead of a Bowie, Boyle, Gayle, Myk or Youan.

Can’t be any worse than myk.

[Shrekko]

I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

You're making it sound like we've released him.

Think it's fairly obvious we thought he was 'good enough for Hibs' but what exactly can they do in these circumstances?

[HIBS NUTS]

You're making it sound like we've released him.

Think it's fairly obvious we thought he was 'good enough for Hibs' but what exactly can they do in these circumstances?
If he is a success at West Ham, the sell on fee would probably be bigger, than a transfer fee if he was a success at Hibs.
Teams in England, don’t pay top money for young Scottish players.

[HIBS NUTS]

I agree it is disappointing

[superfurryhibby]

I just find it so disappointing that our young lads are not considered good enough for Hibs but potentially good enough for a club like West Ham, got some money for him I suppose so not a total loss.

Good enough for Hibs first team? Do you imagine we somehow held him back? Is it not easier to grasp that he isn't currently good enough to play for Hibs and that the financial imbalance is such that a six figure fee for potential is but chicken feed for the likes of West Ham.

I'm disappointed that Landers is leaving, but that's the nature of football in this era.

[04Sauzee]

Mckirdy putting a few Swindon pictures on his Instagram story. Does he do that often? Or is he hinting at something?

[hibstag]

Mckirdy putting a few Swindon pictures on his Instagram story. Does he do that often? Or is he hinting at something?

Hope so!

[Alfred E Newman]

Good enough for Hibs first team? Do you imagine we somehow held him back? Is it not easier to grasp that he isn't currently good enough to play for Hibs and that the financial imbalance is such that a six figure fee for potential is but chicken feed for the likes of West Ham.

I'm disappointed that Landers is leaving, but that's the nature of football in this era.

If we hadn't been filling the bench with second rate loan signings over the past couple of seasons there may have been more opportunities for our youth players

[Donegal Hibby]

Mckirdy putting a few Swindon pictures on his Instagram story. Does he do that often? Or is he hinting at something?

Couple of Swindon fans have seen this too on their forum with one post saying …. Please no . Hopefully something in this not just for us but for him too as he needs to start playing and get his career back on track.

[Ribs1875]

I think the post cup win era, especially the brief period where Lennon had it held together, was probably our strongest spell since the Mowbray era, if not McLeish, but unfortunately football is very cyclical and nothing can really last forever at this level.

There's not a lot to separate the rest of us outside the old firm and it's really a case of trying to put together as best a squad as you can every year. Aberdeen were arguably the second force in Scotland for a while and it's debatable if they're even the third at this point. In fact no one has finished third in consecutive seasons since Rangers did when they first came back up because Aberdeen pipped them to second twice. Now look at them.

I'm in my 30s and I very much doubt in my life time Hibs will ever have a sustained period of relative success lasting more than 3 seasons if I'm lucky. I honestly have to just enjoy the moments they do give me in isolation rather than fretting about where we'll be in five years time off the back of it.

Scottish football is difficult as much as it is a joke. There are only two teams (old firm) to have won the league since the 80s. What does give me a glimmer of hope is looking to other leagues, in recent times underdogs such as Leicester City, FC Twente also, Bodo Glimt, Athletico Madrid and Bayern Leverkusen won their leagues.

[TrinityHFC]

If we hadn't been filling the bench with second rate loan signings over the past couple of seasons there may have been more opportunities for our youth players

Not really true. They would play if they were good enough. People constantly over estimate how ready these guys are. The majority have gone on to do nothing in their careers.

[Hibbyradge]

If we hadn't been filling the bench with second rate loan signings over the past couple of seasons there may have been more opportunities for our youth players

And they'd be getting dog's abuse from sections of the support because they weren't good enough at this level.

That's the reason we spend money on loan players. Our youngsters aren't ready yet.

[Ribs1875]

And they'd be getting dog's abuse from sections of the support because they weren't good enough at this level.

That's the reason we spend money on loan players. Our youngsters aren't ready yet.

The gap between youth to 1st team is far to big a jump. Give us back the reserve league and games at easter road.

[04Sauzee]

Don't know how this boy does it but...

Ross County FC can confirm Jack Hamilton has joined Scottish Championship side Livingston on a permanent deal.

We would like to thank Jack for his efforts whilst at the club and wish him all the very best for the future!

[Stuart93]

Don't know how this boy does it but...

Ross County FC can confirm Jack Hamilton has joined Scottish Championship side Livingston on a permanent deal.

We would like to thank Jack for his efforts whilst at the club and wish him all the very best for the future!

Best agent in Scottish football, he’s absolute toilet

[S4uzee]

Best agent in Scottish football, he’s absolute toilet

One of the worst I’ve seen. Cant believe he’s still playing

[flash]

Allan Campbell permanent deal at United but only until the end of this season.

[HIBS NUTS]

Best agent in Scottish football, he’s absolute toilet
He’s absolutely awful for every club he plays for .

[Alfred E Newman]

And they'd be getting dog's abuse from sections of the support because they weren't good enough at this level.

That's the reason we spend money on loan players. Our youngsters aren't ready yet.

To sit on the bench or in the stand?

[The Modfather]

Not really true. They would play if they were good enough. People constantly over estimate how ready these guys are. The majority have gone on to do nothing in their careers.

We’ve gave substantial minutes to the likes of McKirdy, Tavares & Bursic despite their unsuitability to first team football.

[Unseen work]

Odd Campbell is a permanent until the end of the season

You’d think even a loan until the end of the season so he stays on his Luton wage?

Got to imagine it’s him that only wants the short term deal, unless United want to see if he’s still capable of precious form

[TrinityHFC]

We’ve gave substantial minutes to the likes of McKirdy, Tavares & Bursic despite their unsuitability to first team football.

Okay but we are comparing our youth players to them. Most will never have careers close to any of those.

[Souter96Mac]

Odd Campbell is a permanent until the end of the season

You’d think even a loan until the end of the season so he stays on his Luton wage?

Got to imagine it’s him that only wants the short term deal, unless United want to see if he’s still capable of precious form

I thought it was odd too. Maybe he's thinking, do well at United for a couple months and bag another good pay day down south/up here.

[Springbank]

Odd Campbell is a permanent until the end of the season

You’d think even a loan until the end of the season so he stays on his Luton wage?

Got to imagine it’s him that only wants the short term deal, unless United want to see if he’s still capable of precious form

I would be annoyed if he signed for someone who knocked us out the cup (which is the path to riches this season)

Utd are out so it's a useful place for us to look at him and see if he's really lost all the zest & love of the sport or if he's capable of reaching heights again

[Since452]

Don't think Landers was going to feature much, if at all for the Hibs first team going forward. Good deal for Hibs. Money for nothing really. It's not impacted our team.

On the very slim chance he makes it we also have a sell on.

[Lago]

There’s a big difference in being a potential first team player for them in a few years to being ready for our first team now.
Why not a potential 1st team player at Hibs in a few years or do we not look that far ahead 🤔

[TrinityHFC]

Why not a potential 1st team player at Hibs in a few years or do we not look that far ahead 🤔

I’m sure we do ideally but we realistically can’t keep players at that age if bigger teams want to take a punt on them. That’s different from saying they should therefore get an opportunity to play for us now though.

[Lago]

You're making it sound like we've released him.
Think it's fairly obvious we thought he was 'good enough for Hibs' but what exactly can they do in these circumstances?
Where do I say we've released him, I said we got a sum of money for him :confused:

[Shrekko]

Where do I say we've released him, I said we got a sum of money for him :confused:

“You’re making it sound like…” is what I posted.

[Lago]

“You’re making it sound like…” is what I posted.
Well I don't think I did, your trying to put a spin on it. :confused:

[villager]

Cassian Andor, is the rumour I've heard. Couple of great shots when he played against Scarif in his last game.

Really good in the air.

[Donegal Hibby]

The gap between youth to 1st team is far to big a jump. Give us back the reserve league and games at easter road.

Heard another manager awhile back say it’s hard for teams to give youth players a chance in our league as a few bad results can change things quickly and put them under pressure in their jobs too .

[Fergos]

Allan Campbell permanent deal at United but only until the end of this season.

It’s a loan from Luton according to bbc.

[CallumLaidlaw]

It’s a loan from Lutron according to bbc.

The bbc are wrong.


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[JohnM1875]

The bbc are wrong.


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The Utd article said he’s joined on a permanent til the end of the season, but it also said he’s joined from Charlton, surely that’s been cancelled and he’s joined from Luton.

Weird deal and makes the chances of us signing him even smaller. If he’s *****, we won’t want him and if he’s class he’ll likely have plenty offers.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Scottish football is difficult as much as it is a joke. There are only two teams (old firm) to have won the league since the 80s. What does give me a glimmer of hope is looking to other leagues, in recent times underdogs such as Leicester City, FC Twente also, Bodo Glimt, Athletico Madrid and Bayern Leverkusen won their leagues.

In order to win a league you need help, it's not enough simply to have a good team. The year Leicester won the league 2nd placed Arsenal beat them home and away, but dropped points to teams around them losing 7 and drawing 11 ... it was also the case that the teams like Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd had what was for them poor seasons, Spurs were 3rd FFS.

In what scenario would both Celtic and Rangers be so poor that they would drop points on a regular basis to an extent it would allow Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen to win the league. In 84/85 second placed Celtic lost 6 and drew 8 games as Aberdeen won the league, meaning they dropped points in over a third of their games.

Since the SPL moved to 12 clubs in the 00/01 season 24 years ago only 6 different teams have won the EPL and 2 of them only once...... That's in a country with far more clubs who should be able to compete than in Scotland ... the fact is that league has been monopolised by 4 clubs.

In Spain only 4 clubs have won the league in that 24 years and even then only 4 times has it not been Real Madrid or Barcelona.

In Holland it's been almost exclusively shared by Ajax, PSV and Feynoord a couple of seasons notwithstanding.

In Germany in that time only 3 times has the Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund stranglehold been broken.

We are talking about huge clubs in their own right like Atletico Madrid and Liverpool who I would suggest are far closer to the fanbase and spending power of the likes of Barcelona and Man City than Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts are to Celtic or Rangers. Leicester not so much ... but there's a reason they were 5000/1 with at least one bookie .... what they did wasn't a challenge, it was a miracle and that's what a Scottish team would need ... a miracle.

In a country with far fewer even remotely possible challengers to the status quo than the ones you have mentioned far from being a Joke what happens in our league is almost par for the course.

[HoboHarry]

It’s a loan from Lutron according to bbc.
That's a bit of a switch...

[Just_Jimmy]

In order to win a league you need help, it's not enough simply to have a good team. The year Leicester won the league 2nd placed Arsenal beat them home and away, but dropped points to teams around them losing 7 and drawing 11 ... it was also the case that the teams like Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd had what was for them poor seasons, Spurs were 3rd FFS.

In what scenario would both Celtic and Rangers be so poor that they would drop points on a regular basis to an extent it would allow Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen to win the league. In 84/85 second placed Celtic lost 6 and drew 8 games as Aberdeen won the league, meaning they dropped points in over a third of their games.

Since the SPL moved to 12 clubs in the 00/01 season 24 years ago only 6 different teams have won the EPL and 2 of them only once...... That's in a country with far more clubs who should be able to compete than in Scotland ... the fact is that league has been monopolised by 4 clubs.

In Spain only 4 clubs have won the league in that 24 years and even then only 4 times has it not been Real Madrid or Barcelona.

In Holland it's been almost exclusively shared by Ajax, PSV and Feynoord a couple of seasons notwithstanding.

In Germany in that time only 3 times has the Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund stranglehold been broken.

We are talking about huge clubs in their own right like Atletico Madrid and Liverpool who I would suggest are far closer to the fanbase and spending power of the likes of Barcelona and Man City than Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts are to Celtic or Rangers. Leicester not so much ... but there's a reason they were 5000/1 with at least one bookie .... what they did wasn't a challenge, it was a miracle and that's what a Scottish team would need ... a miracle.

In a country with far fewer even remotely possible challengers to the status quo than the ones you have mentioned far from being a Joke what happens in our league is almost par for the course.It doesn't help that we play them both 8 times a year when top 6. One of them 3 times away.

Although still difficult, much easier if we played them both home and away only. So 4 games instead of 8. Making a win against either much more valuable to us, and damaging to them.

But but but....tv

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[matty_f]

In order to win a league you need help, it's not enough simply to have a good team. The year Leicester won the league 2nd placed Arsenal beat them home and away, but dropped points to teams around them losing 7 and drawing 11 ... it was also the case that the teams like Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd had what was for them poor seasons, Spurs were 3rd FFS.

In what scenario would both Celtic and Rangers be so poor that they would drop points on a regular basis to an extent it would allow Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen to win the league. In 84/85 second placed Celtic lost 6 and drew 8 games as Aberdeen won the league, meaning they dropped points in over a third of their games.

Since the SPL moved to 12 clubs in the 00/01 season 24 years ago only 6 different teams have won the EPL and 2 of them only once...... That's in a country with far more clubs who should be able to compete than in Scotland ... the fact is that league has been monopolised by 4 clubs.

In Spain only 4 clubs have won the league in that 24 years and even then only 4 times has it not been Real Madrid or Barcelona.

In Holland it's been almost exclusively shared by Ajax, PSV and Feynoord a couple of seasons notwithstanding.

In Germany in that time only 3 times has the Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund stranglehold been broken.

We are talking about huge clubs in their own right like Atletico Madrid and Liverpool who I would suggest are far closer to the fanbase and spending power of the likes of Barcelona and Man City than Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts are to Celtic or Rangers. Leicester not so much ... but there's a reason they were 5000/1 with at least one bookie .... what they did wasn't a challenge, it was a miracle and that's what a Scottish team would need ... a miracle.

In a country with far fewer even remotely possible challengers to the status quo than the ones you have mentioned far from being a Joke what happens in our league is almost par for the course.

I think our best chance comes from Celtic dominating Scottish football from here to the point where Rangers are so beaten that they start to regress towards the rest of us, then you hope for Celtic having one bad season where someone can capitalise without having to overcome a really strong Rangers as well.

[Fergos]

The bbc are wrong.


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Oh right, ok

[Ribs1875]

In order to win a league you need help, it's not enough simply to have a good team. The year Leicester won the league 2nd placed Arsenal beat them home and away, but dropped points to teams around them losing 7 and drawing 11 ... it was also the case that the teams like Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd had what was for them poor seasons, Spurs were 3rd FFS.

In what scenario would both Celtic and Rangers be so poor that they would drop points on a regular basis to an extent it would allow Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen to win the league. In 84/85 second placed Celtic lost 6 and drew 8 games as Aberdeen won the league, meaning they dropped points in over a third of their games.

Since the SPL moved to 12 clubs in the 00/01 season 24 years ago only 6 different teams have won the EPL and 2 of them only once...... That's in a country with far more clubs who should be able to compete than in Scotland ... the fact is that league has been monopolised by 4 clubs.

In Spain only 4 clubs have won the league in that 24 years and even then only 4 times has it not been Real Madrid or Barcelona.

In Holland it's been almost exclusively shared by Ajax, PSV and Feynoord a couple of seasons notwithstanding.

In Germany in that time only 3 times has the Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund stranglehold been broken.

We are talking about huge clubs in their own right like Atletico Madrid and Liverpool who I would suggest are far closer to the fanbase and spending power of the likes of Barcelona and Man City than Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts are to Celtic or Rangers. Leicester not so much ... but there's a reason they were 5000/1 with at least one bookie .... what they did wasn't a challenge, it was a miracle and that's what a Scottish team would need ... a miracle.

In a country with far fewer even remotely possible challengers to the status quo than the ones you have mentioned far from being a Joke what happens in our league is almost par for the course.

It comes down to the lack of money being made/spent in our game. I do believe if celtic and rangers had been invited to join their system in England they would have done a lot more than the likes of Cardiff and Swansea. I even think us, hearts and Aberdeen would stand a good chance in that league with a higher backing.

[JohnM1875]

So, have to think it’ll be today or Monday if we’re making any more signings. Probably Monday.

Quite rare we make an announcement on the weekend, it’s obviously happened before, just can’t see it.

[7Hero]

It's a yawn fest all over europe...

Serie A, my favourite league, at least we get the odd challenger, but the top Northern 3 clubs have generally dominated. Good to see Atalanta flying high this year and Napoli are in the mix too.

[hibsbollah]

I think our best chance comes from Celtic dominating Scottish football from here to the point where Rangers are so beaten that they start to regress towards the rest of us, then you hope for Celtic having one bad season where someone can capitalise without having to overcome a really strong Rangers as well.

The problem with that is even without success in europe, the rangers are always going to have that extra revenue generating power because they just have more fans than us, and merchandising and ticket sales are still important below the very top level of club finance. What is their revenue, 7 times ours? 10 times ours? That kind of gap isn’t going to be narrowed much. The ‘loyalty’ of their fans is overblown of course, but despite them being terrible on the pitch for the most part they keep showing up in numbers and buying their stupid orange replica tops. I honestly believe there is more chance of them finishing top over the next ten years than us or hearts or aberdeen finishing 2nd.

[Since90+2]

The problem with that is even without success in europe, the rangers are always going to have that extra revenue generating power because they just have more fans than us, and merchandising and ticket sales are still important below the very top level of club finance. What is their revenue, 7 times ours? 10 times ours? That kind of gap isn’t going to be narrowed much. The ‘loyalty’ of their fans is overblown of course, but despite them being terrible on the pitch for the most part they keep showing up in numbers and buying their stupid orange replica tops. I honestly believe there is more chance of them finishing top over the next ten years than us or hearts or aberdeen finishing 2nd.

I'd agree with your last point.

Financially Rangers are closer to Celtic than we are to them, they'll have pocketed millions alone again from doing well in Europe.

Rangers will win the league in the next 10 years, I'd say that's close to certain although it might be closer to the end of that timeframe.

[JohnM1875]

I'd agree with your lash point.

Financially Rangers are closer to Celtic than we are to them, they'll have pocketed millions alone again from doing well in Europe.

Rangers will win the league in the next 10 years, I'd say that's close to certain although it might be closer to the end of that timeframe.

£15mil so far apparently, another £mil plus if they get through the next round. Good money.

[Ozyhibby]

I'd agree with your last point.

Financially Rangers are closer to Celtic than we are to them, they'll have pocketed millions alone again from doing well in Europe.

Rangers will win the league in the next 10 years, I'd say that's close to certain although it might be closer to the end of that timeframe.

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Huns are basically relying on Celtic having a horror season to have any chance of getting close. They are losing money every season while Celtic are building up a huge cash pile. I think it’s about £80m now.


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[Since90+2]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250131/269f271370c3a3aa9a99ddf3e428e41b.png

Huns are basically relying on Celtic having a horror season to have any chance of getting close. They are losing money every season while Celtic are building up a huge cash pile. I think it’s about £80m now.


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When you're talking about money at that level, the difference is still a lot closer than Hibs pulling in 15-20 million. Look at the English Premier League, the biggest financial clubs are not in the top 2 places currently.

Rangers finished what, 8 points or so behind Celtic last season? Now compare that to the gap between Rangers and Hearts in 3rd.

How far ahead financially were Celtic when Gerrard won the league a few years ago? I'm guessing it's comparable to now.

[hibees 7062]

The bbc are wrong.


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They don’t know if they can afford him yet as they don’t know what the budget is for a permanent move

[CropleyWasGod]

They don’t know if they can afford him yet as they don’t know what the budget is for a permanent move

Fair shout.

If United make it into Europe, with his help, they will be better able to afford him in the longer term.

[hibees 7062]

Yep, Goodwin said he could play for any team in Scotland

[Jones28]

Yep, Goodwin said he could play for any team in Scotland

Hmm, pinch of salt with this one. Good player before he went South but struggling to get a game for Charlton Atheltic and their fans seem to be glad he's off the books.

Possibly just a case of wrong player, wrong club, but I'm not losing sleep over him signing for someone else.

[hibees 7062]

[QUOTE=Jones28;7881145]Hmm, pinch of salt with this one. Good player before he went South but struggling to get a game for Charlton Atheltic and their fans seem to be glad he's off the books.

Possibly just a case of wrong player, wrong club, but I'm not losing sleep over him signing for someone else.[/QUOTE . I think he’s putting himself in the shop window with Utd .

[CapitalGreen]

Hmm, pinch of salt with this one. Good player before he went South but struggling to get a game for Charlton Atheltic and their fans seem to be glad he's off the books.

Possibly just a case of wrong player, wrong club, but I'm not losing sleep over him signing for someone else.

It’s been 3 wrong clubs in the last year.

[Jones28]

It’s been 3 wrong clubs in the last year.

Further proving the point then, if they were signing A N Other league 1 midfielder we wouldn't give it a second thought.

[Centre Hawf]

Heard another manager awhile back say it’s hard for teams to give youth players a chance in our league as a few bad results can change things quickly and put them under pressure in their jobs too .

Craig Levein made a good point recently that the 12 team league makes it a lot harder to give youth a chance as you're only one bad run away from looking over your shoulder at the relegation spots instead of up the table in hope. He suggested the idea of going to a 16 or 18 team set up to potentially help kick start teams trusting youth a bit more without fear of being punished for it.

I actually think it makes a lot of sense but if you were to do it you'd need to try and implement some sort of home grown rule also.

[GordonHFC]

Craig Levein made a good point recently that the 12 team league makes it a lot harder to give youth a chance as you're only one bad run away from looking over your shoulder at the relegation spots instead of up the table in hope. He suggested the idea of going to a 16 or 18 team set up to potentially help kick start teams trusting youth a bit more without fear of being punished for it.

I actually think it makes a lot of sense but if you were to do it you'd need to try and implement some sort of home grown rule also.

Going back to what we had in the 1970s. Simple home and away fixtures each season which i agree with however it will never happen if you cannot guarantee 4 butt cheek matches every season. TV and the Glasgow FA will see to that.

[Centre Hawf]

Going back to what we had in the 1970s. Simple home and away fixtures each season which i agree with however it will never happen if you cannot guarantee 4 butt cheek matches every season. TV and the Glasgow FA will see to that.

Agree, they'll never do it sadly.

The 2 vote veto thing has to be the worst set up in any league ever. Can't believe Aberdeen had the chance to kill that dead and ended up siding with Celtic. Embarrassing club.

[Spike Mandela]

So, tomorrow is our sixth game since the January window opened and still no available new signings for selection. That will leave at best 8 matches for any new recruit to come in and make an impact before the split.

What is the point of the January window? Indeed, what is the point of a recruitment team between september and February?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I think our best chance comes from Celtic dominating Scottish football from here to the point where Rangers are so beaten that they start to regress towards the rest of us, then you hope for Celtic having one bad season where someone can capitalise without having to overcome a really strong Rangers as well.

I’m hoping that the tie up with BKFG would help us narrow that gap and increase the chances of us being able to challenge the second spot. 1st still seems like a chasm but things can happen with a bit of confidence and momentum.

They can certainly give us access to players we wouldn’t normally get (Marcondes, Maolida). For a club our size, with BKFG behind us, we should be aiming for 3rd initially with a regular place in Europe. Then look to progress on those fronts, aiming for second, qualifying in Europe group stages.

[04Sauzee]

January 2025 Transfer Window
New Arrivals (inc Loans)
As at 31/01

St.Johnstone 6
Motherwell 5
Aberdeen 4
Dundee 4
Hearts 4
Ross County 4
Dundee Utd 3
St.Mirren 2
Celtic 1
Hibs 1
Kilmarnock 1
Rangers 1

Window closes 23:00 on Monday Feb 3rd 2025

Source; @Nareystoepoker

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[Donegal Hibby]

Craig Levein made a good point recently that the 12 team league makes it a lot harder to give youth a chance as you're only one bad run away from looking over your shoulder at the relegation spots instead of up the table in hope. He suggested the idea of going to a 16 or 18 team set up to potentially help kick start teams trusting youth a bit more without fear of being punished for it.

I actually think it makes a lot of sense but if you were to do it you'd need to try and implement some sort of home grown rule also.

It was Stephen Robinson I heard mention it awhile back, he said from his time in England in a bigger league it was easier to play youth players as opposed to the Scottish premier for exactly the same reason Craig Levein said …

A bigger league with some sort of home grown rule might be beneficial to clubs and Scotland in the long run but the other side of this is lack of revenue , sponsorship , meaningless games etc .. pros and cons with both situations and I really don’t know if there’s another solution that could work better.