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badabing67
05-12-2024, 12:28 PM
Genuine question, why?
I 100% think we need a striker, just don’t think it should be Vente
I think we need a real quality striker who can score from nothing
Like Bowie
JohnM1875
05-12-2024, 12:31 PM
Genuine question, why?
I 100% think we need a striker, just don’t think it should be Vente
I think we need a real quality striker who can score from nothing
I’d like to see him get a chance in a team that's creating chances, and I think we are now.
His goal-scoring record is impressive and much better than Myko’s. He's also still our player for another 18 months.
Saying that I still don't think we’ll recall him and its more likely we’ll try and sell him in Jan.
sleeping giant
05-12-2024, 12:33 PM
Don't know if I'm being overly optimistic but I'm excited about the transfer window as I think we will see quality additions.
JohnM1875
05-12-2024, 12:35 PM
Don't know if I'm being overly optimistic but I'm excited about the transfer window as I think we will see quality additions.
One thing about our recent January windows is we either have a good one or a rank one. Really need the former this time round.
Excited for it as well.
Hibiza
05-12-2024, 04:32 PM
Vente started well but just seemed to get worse for some reason.
eastmainsmsh
05-12-2024, 06:34 PM
I'd take Vente back. There's a player in there.
So would I but I think he was miffed under Monty and keen to back home
Ribs1875
05-12-2024, 07:01 PM
I wouldn't rule out how beneficial another striker would be. I'd be more keen for us to tighten up the midfield and add a couple of full backs. If you look at our forward line we have had good players who on their day are good. My thinking is the service and dirty work behind them needs improved.
JohnM1875
05-12-2024, 07:09 PM
Could be absolutely nothing in it at all, and it's never mentioned. But Boyler was on an Aus football podcast with two A-League players, ex Hearts player Ben Garuccio (who?) and Stef Mauk. Could be him getting himself more know over there for a Jan move. Obviously will be pretty well know from playing for them already, but goes into his playing career to date.
I could see him definitely making the move over there at the end of his contact this summer, but wouldn't be completely surprised to see it happen in Jan.
Still have a lot of time for Boyle and my preference would obviously be for him to discover some form. Link for anyone who wants to watch.;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUHcoUBkiQ
Donegal Hibby
05-12-2024, 07:28 PM
I don’t think we will sign that many and personally I’d rather see quality over quantity in a couple of key positions with a new keeper one that most of us would like to see and a creative midfielder who can chip in with a few goals being the two priorities …
After that anything else would be a bonus .. I probably like to see another LCB who can play LB ..
I do wonder who if any we will move on if space is needed to create openings for new players ? , does signing a new keeper mean we will have to move on one of the existing ones too ? .
cameronw-hfc
05-12-2024, 07:40 PM
Could be absolutely nothing in it at all, and it's never mentioned. But Boyler was on an Aus football podcast with two A-League players, ex Hearts player Ben Garuccio (who?) and Stef Mauk. Could be him getting himself more know over there for a Jan move. Obviously will be pretty well know from playing for them already, but goes into his playing career to date.
I could see him definitely making the move over there at the end of his contact this summer, but wouldn't be completely surprised to see it happen in Jan.
Still have a lot of time for Boyle and my preference would obviously be for him to discover some form. Link for anyone who wants to watch.;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUHcoUBkiQ
I might be reading too much into this, but I've noticed a big change in the way Boyle talks about the club. A few years ago he was pretty open in interviews saying he loves the club etc but he seemed to be more diplomatic about the question about Hibs meaning a lot to him/spend his career here, instead of the 'i love the club' it was more of a 'yeah considering the size of the club and stuff' type answer.
Again, might be reading way too much into it but doesn't seem to be much love for the club from Boyle in interviews these days. Or not as much as previous years.
I might be reading too much into this, but I've noticed a big change in the way Boyle talks about the club. A few years ago he was pretty open in interviews saying he loves the club etc but he seemed to be more diplomatic about the question about Hibs meaning a lot to him/spend his career here, instead of the 'i love the club' it was more of a 'yeah considering the size of the club and stuff' type answer.
Again, might be reading way too much into it but doesn't seem to be much love for the club from Boyle in interviews these days. Or not as much as previous years.
I think he expected the Saudi move to be more than the 6 moths and then he would've moved to Australia to see out his career but the way it went with the club over there toiling and we got him back really for nothing but had to almost triple his wages to compensate him, feels like he's here but only due to other situations and not that he wants to be here.
cameronw-hfc
05-12-2024, 08:08 PM
I think he expected the Saudi move to be more than the 6 moths and then he would've moved to Australia to see out his career but the way it went with the club over there toiling and we got him back really for nothing but had to almost triple his wages to compensate him, feels like he's here but only due to other situations and not that he wants to be here.
Yeah that's the vibe i've had from boyle for a while now. Previously felt like he truly loved the club, feels like that love seems to have vanished in recent months
JimBHibees
05-12-2024, 08:17 PM
Yeah that's the vibe i've had from boyle for a while now. Previously felt like he truly loved the club, feels like that love seems to have vanished in recent months
His interview in Australia was odd
SerenityGreen
05-12-2024, 08:25 PM
I'd take Vente back. There's a player in there.
Totally forgot about Vente. I'm a fan and would deffo have him back, think we still to see the best of him, in my opinion he's a guy who will score goals, I just like the look of him and think he could be good to recall.
Cabbage-Patch
05-12-2024, 11:05 PM
Genuine question, why?
I 100% think we need a striker, just don’t think it should be Vente
I think we need a real quality striker who can score from nothing
He deserves another chance. I saw enough of him in the brief spell when he came to the club before Johnson got sacked to see there's a player in there. Now we have switched to two up I think he could thrive alongside Gayle
Since90+2
06-12-2024, 05:56 AM
Vente won't want to come back. He's playing and scoring goals in a better league than ours that is also his home.
We don't want a player who'd rather be elsewhere
Better to let him stay in Holland and then get a decent fee in the summer that we can reinvest.
JimBHibees
06-12-2024, 06:18 AM
Vente won't want to come back. He's playing and scoring goals in a better league than ours that is also his home.
We don't want a player who'd rather be elsewhere
Better to let him stay in Holland and then get a decent fee in the summer that we can reinvest.
Personally wouldn’t want him back
worcesterhibby
06-12-2024, 07:19 AM
Vente won't want to come back. He's playing and scoring goals in a better league than ours that is also his home.
We don't want a player who'd rather be elsewhere
Better to let him stay in Holland and then get a decent fee in the summer that we can reinvest.
I like Vente, in the right team he is deffo a goal scorer.. but I agree with this. Unfortunate, but true.
Since452
06-12-2024, 07:41 AM
Vente started well but just seemed to get worse for some reason.
Nick Montgomery
Mcbizz1998
06-12-2024, 07:50 AM
If we bring back Vente in January and hope for something different than we got before then that’s a big risk imo. Wouldn’t be against him coming back but we also need to sign another striker.
Centre Hawf
06-12-2024, 07:53 AM
Noticed that Portales at Dundee appears to be out of contract in the summer. Looked decent whenever I've seen him but admittedly haven't watched a lot of him. 29 in the summer but could be a decent Rocky replacement and has experience of playing here for two years.
eastmainsmsh
06-12-2024, 09:17 AM
[QUOTE=cameronw-hfc;7835205]Yeah that's the vibe i've had from boyle for a while now. Previously felt like he truly loved the club, feels like that love seems to have vanished in recent months[/QUOT
Possible he will go in January
easty
06-12-2024, 09:22 AM
Noticed that Portales at Dundee appears to be out of contract in the summer. Looked decent whenever I've seen him but admittedly haven't watched a lot of him. 29 in the summer but could be a decent Rocky replacement and has experience of playing here for two years.
Dundees defence is woeful. I wouldn't touch any of them.
As bad as we've been defensively over the last couple of seasons, they've still managed to concede more than us.
Noticed that Portales at Dundee appears to be out of contract in the summer. Looked decent whenever I've seen him but admittedly haven't watched a lot of him. 29 in the summer but could be a decent Rocky replacement and has experience of playing here for two years.
There was some mad stat chucked around about Garvan Stewart when he was linked to us at the beginning that Bournemouth hadn’t signed anyone over 27 for a number of years (that vital part escapes me) I’d be surprised if this didn’t continue here
If we bring back Vente in January and hope for something different than we got before then that’s a big risk imo. Wouldn’t be against him coming back but we also need to sign another striker.
We have Bowie, Myko and Gayle, here already, with Vente, that would be four, plus Boyle & Youan. We really need to be thinking of offloading, before getting any more in.
We have Bowie, Myko and Gayle, here already, with Vente, that would be four, plus Boyle & Youan. We really need to be thinking of offloading, before getting any more in.
Need to think of creating chances for these guys more than another striker to feed off nothing, creative CM and another winger/ wide forward would be my preference to another striker
Centre Hawf
06-12-2024, 09:50 AM
There was some mad stat chucked around about Garvan Stewart when he was linked to us at the beginning that Bournemouth hadn’t signed anyone over 27 for a number of years (that vital part escapes me) I’d be surprised if this didn’t continue here
I remember seeing something similar. I think it would be a mistake to go down that route and it would be similar to what we initially tried to do in the prime Ian Gordon era where everyone we signed was a bit of a project.
One or two of these guys are fine when there's real potential in them, but we need a constantly competitive squad that is ready for the throws of senior football in Scotland. As much as we've had poor time this season I think you can see now he's settled that someone like Ekpiteta could be a useful addition to us.
If players are good enough to improve us now it shouldn't really matter their age in my opinion. The player trading should come off the back of us having successful seasons not because someone is 23 and looked good in a **** team.
Need to think of creating chances for these guys more than another striker to feed off nothing, creative CM and another winger/ wide forward would be my preference to another striker
Agreed, Vente, as the others, were working on scraps, while he was here.
We only have one player who can make those types of decisive passes and he rarely gets played and when he does, never in a position where we could fully use his talents.
Nicho87
06-12-2024, 10:26 AM
Vente in the current formation would be better than him being a solo striker.
That being said if we sold Vente in January, I wouldn’t lose sleep.
Northernhibee
06-12-2024, 10:40 AM
Vente is remarkably easy to keep quiet. Just put someone on him. Doesn’t need to be particularly tall or quick or strong - just someone and as long as they’re better than Elgin City level then he may as well be invisible.
Even when he got chances in the group games of the league cup - Kelty, Queens Park comes to mind he’s got in him to miss some absolute sitters.
People keep saying that Montgomery played in him midfield but if it wasn’t for him dropping deep to try and link up play, then we may as well just put ten men on the pitch.
He has nothing. Emperors new clothes.
babahibs
06-12-2024, 11:29 AM
Vente's not good enough, it was very obvious when he was here.
superfurryhibby
06-12-2024, 11:47 AM
Yeah that's the vibe i've had from boyle for a while now. Previously felt like he truly loved the club, feels like that love seems to have vanished in recent months
Boyle has played in 300 games for Hibs, he will always love the club.
Poor form and an eye on the future doesn't change that.
easty
06-12-2024, 11:53 AM
Boyle has played in 300 games for Hibs, he will always love the club.
Poor form and an eye on the future doesn't change that.
:agree:
hibsforeurope
06-12-2024, 12:10 PM
I can see Youan leaving, his form picking up coinciding with the transfer window about to open is too big a coincidence. if we can get anything near the money on offer in the summer it would be best for both player and club.
GreenPJ
06-12-2024, 12:32 PM
I can see Youan leaving, his form picking up coinciding with the transfer window about to open is too big a coincidence. if we can get anything near the money on offer in the summer it would be best for both player and club.
Agreed although if Boyle goes as well in Jan that's two wide players we need to be looking at unless Rudi comes back into the mix on the wide left.
Centre Hawf
06-12-2024, 12:34 PM
Agreed although if Boyle goes as well in Jan that's two wide players we need to be looking at unless Rudi comes back into the mix on the wide left.
I don't think it would be wise to consider Rudi as a starter going forward this season. If either Elie or Boyle leave we should be looking to replace them properly in my opinion.
GreenPJ
06-12-2024, 12:49 PM
I don't think it would be wise to consider Rudi as a starter going forward this season. If either Elie or Boyle leave we should be looking to replace them properly in my opinion.
By the time we get to the window we will be more than half way through the season. I agree we need to manage his time in first team but he has gone from being pretty heavily involved to a bench warmer. I think that the management team/club do rate him but also not sure that putting him in for a regular period of time (played a reasonable amount of mins in first 7 of 8 games this season) to then give him 17 mins in next 6/7 games is the best development strategy.
I would like him to be involved in at least 70% of the remaining games from Jan/Feb through to end of season (don't mean he has to start every game but get some meaningful game time, 20 mins + in 70% of those games)- that would give the club/management team an opportunity to say whether he will be first team/squad for the next season.
silverhibee
06-12-2024, 12:56 PM
I can see Youan leaving, his form picking up coinciding with the transfer window about to open is too big a coincidence. if we can get anything near the money on offer in the summer it would be best for both player and club.
No chance are we selling Youan in the January window, we will need him until the end of the season then he can get a move.
Centre Hawf
06-12-2024, 12:56 PM
By the time we get to the window we will be more than half way through the season. I agree we need to manage his time in first team but he has gone from being pretty heavily involved to a bench warmer. I think that the management team/club do rate him but also not sure that putting him in for a regular period of time (played a reasonable amount of mins in first 7 of 8 games this season) to then give him 17 mins in next 6/7 games is the best development strategy.
I would like him to be involved in at least 70% of the remaining games from Jan/Feb through to end of season (don't mean he has to start every game but get some meaningful game time, 20 mins + in 70% of those games)- that would give the club/management team an opportunity to say whether he will be first team/squad for the next season.
I think the problem is he just isn't quite good enough at this moment in time to make an impact. I wouldn't want to be setting targets on how often we should be playing him because the reality is we need to put points on the board and if he's not the guy in the squad the manager thinks can do that then he should be allowed to pick who he feels can.
It's a squad game though and the likelihood is he will find himself on the pitch at some points between now and the summer (assuming he doesn't go out on loan which I think could be a possibility) and when he does he needs to grab the opportunities to put him up the pecking order.
I faith in his potential but I'm not convinced he's going to be much of an impact for us this season.
silverhibee
06-12-2024, 12:57 PM
Agreed although if Boyle goes as well in Jan that's two wide players we need to be looking at unless Rudi comes back into the mix on the wide left.
More chance of Boyle moving than Youan.
The Modfather
06-12-2024, 01:13 PM
No chance are we selling Youan in the January window, we will need him until the end of the season then he can get a move.
He’s slowly improving, but from the lowest of low bars. He’s not got a goal or an assist yet this season in the league. That is as much a part as any other as to why we are where we are. I don’t think we would notice if we were to sell him IMO. If we can get good money for him in January I would take it and give it to Garvin Stewart to spend to make us better overall.
hibsbollah
06-12-2024, 01:19 PM
He’s slowly improving, but from the lowest of low bars. He’s not got a goal or an assist yet this season in the league. That is as much a part as any other as to why we are where we are. I don’t think we would notice if we were to sell him IMO. If we can get good money for him in January I would take it and give it to Garvin Stewart to spend to make us better overall.
How many starts has he had though? Is it 5 or 6, some as sub? His lack of production is down to injury, its a strong likelihood the goals and assists will come, based on his excellent production last season.
The Modfather
06-12-2024, 01:31 PM
How many starts has he had though? Is it 5 or 6, some as sub? His lack of production is down to injury, its a strong likelihood the goals and assists will come, based on his excellent production last season.
The fact he’s also only played 9 (I think) games is also an issue in itself. Whatever way we cut it Youan has contributed nothing so far this season and that’s partly why we are where we are IMO. He scored 5 league goals (and 7 assists) last season, only scoring in 3 seperate league games. Dwight Gayle has a goal and two assists in almost a third of the minutes Youan has had. This is the second season where the thought of Youan is better than the reality IMO.
I’d prefer Youan over the likes of Myko, Boyle, Gayle, who have also been poor and partly responsible for this season. None of them will generate a fee we can use to make us better overall though.
Another “least of our problems (but not an actual solution)” IMO.
GreenCastle
06-12-2024, 01:45 PM
Few things to consider with Boyle and Youan.
Wouldn’t want to lose them both. Both have had a slow start to the season but at the same time the whole team have struggled.
Boyle - would he leave midseason and leave his family behind and join Oz league midway through season? Or does he just see it out till May and join for new season. He probably hasn’t been happy being on bench.
Will Boyle be thinking World Cup 2026 and playing well regularly to get into the squad or has that shipped sailed ? Australia may not even make World Cup also.
Youan looks happier and while he hasn’t scored or assist he’s still been dangerous and would rather have him playing that not. But you do wonder if the form improves with the window opening soon?!
We have been here before - unless we have improved replacements we need to be careful we don’t just get rid and replace with players who won’t improve the starting team. Apart from Bowie and Vente we don’t have a permanent striker if Boyle and Ellie leave.
B.H.F.C
06-12-2024, 01:49 PM
How many starts has he had though? Is it 5 or 6, some as sub? His lack of production is down to injury, its a strong likelihood the goals and assists will come, based on his excellent production last season.
9 games in the league, 7 starts, but no goals or assists. He’s going to need to improve massively and quickly. He’s not scored a goal, full stop, since February.
I think he’s looked a bit better in the last couple of games but we need a hell of a lot more.
Hibiza
06-12-2024, 01:52 PM
I remember seeing something similar. I think it would be a mistake to go down that route and it would be similar to what we initially tried to do in the prime Ian Gordon era where everyone we signed was a bit of a project.
One or two of these guys are fine when there's real potential in them, but we need a constantly competitive squad that is ready for the throws of senior football in Scotland. As much as we've had poor time this season I think you can see now he's settled that someone like Ekpiteta could be a useful addition to us.
If players are good enough to improve us now it shouldn't really matter their age in my opinion. The player trading should come off the back of us having successful seasons not because someone is 23 and looked good in a **** team.
As was Ian Gordon : a failed project unfortunately
Hibiza
06-12-2024, 01:54 PM
A failed project signing failed projects.
NORTHERNHIBBY
06-12-2024, 02:00 PM
No chance are we selling Youan in the January window, we will need him until the end of the season then he can get a move.
If there is an offer for him and it is decent enough then we will sell. That would not concern me, as long as we have learned the lessons from the summer about replacements and options
Hibiza
06-12-2024, 05:21 PM
More chance of Boyle moving than Youan.
Probably best that both moved on .
Iain G
06-12-2024, 05:35 PM
I remember seeing something similar. I think it would be a mistake to go down that route and it would be similar to what we initially tried to do in the prime Ian Gordon era where everyone we signed was a bit of a project.
One or two of these guys are fine when there's real potential in them, but we need a constantly competitive squad that is ready for the throws of senior football in Scotland. As much as we've had poor time this season I think you can see now he's settled that someone like Ekpiteta could be a useful addition to us.
If players are good enough to improve us now it shouldn't really matter their age in my opinion. The player trading should come off the back of us having successful seasons not because someone is 23 and looked good in a **** team.
If it worked for Bournemouth, who are currently 9th in the EPL, why could it it work here?
Wilson
07-12-2024, 12:12 AM
If it worked for Bournemouth, who are currently 9th in the EPL, why could it it work here?
9th is nowhere up here?
Ribs1875
07-12-2024, 06:26 AM
Few things to consider with Boyle and Youan.
Wouldn’t want to lose them both. Both have had a slow start to the season but at the same time the whole team have struggled.
Boyle - would he leave midseason and leave his family behind and join Oz league midway through season? Or does he just see it out till May and join for new season. He probably hasn’t been happy being on bench.
Will Boyle be thinking World Cup 2026 and playing well regularly to get into the squad or has that shipped sailed ? Australia may not even make World Cup also.
Youan looks happier and while he hasn’t scored or assist he’s still been dangerous and would rather have him playing that not. But you do wonder if the form improves with the window opening soon?!
We have been here before - unless we have improved replacements we need to be careful we don’t just get rid and replace with players who won’t improve the starting team. Apart from Bowie and Vente we don’t have a permanent striker if Boyle and Ellie leave.
Boyle has been a fantastic servant to the club and showed loyalty to us. I think at one point he could easily have played down in the championship on 4 times the money and never understood how that never happened. The only criticism I have of him is there were some big games he went hiding in. I think if he left it would be for the best, equally on the flip side I would be content on him staying as he still has a lot to offer.
Youan, long may his recent form continue. He has the attributes to be a top player. It's a combination of his confidence and our lack of quality that's resulted to his inconsistency. He lost of rag with a supporter, tbh that's not a bad thing for me because it shows he cares. I do think he will probably push for a move away at some point.
theonlywayisup
07-12-2024, 07:48 AM
Boyle has been a fantastic servant to the club and showed loyalty to us. I think at one point he could easily have played down in the championship on 4 times the money and never understood how that never happened. The only criticism I have of him is there were some big games he went hiding in. I think if he left it would be for the best, equally on the flip side I would be content on him staying as he still has a lot to offer.
Youan, long may his recent form continue. He has the attributes to be a top player. It's a combination of his confidence and our lack of quality that's resulted to his inconsistency. He lost of rag with a supporter, tbh that's not a bad thing for me because it shows he cares. I do think he will probably push for a move away at some point.
Re Youan, it feels like a switch has been flicked and he's suddenly become a much more influential footballer in recent games. The cynic in me says that he's trying to impress watching teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see him away during January.
If Youan goes, Boyle has to stay as they are our only players with pace, albeit we don't have the midfielders to unlock it.
Ribs1875
07-12-2024, 08:32 AM
Re Youan, it feels like a switch has been flicked and he's suddenly become a much more influential footballer in recent games. The cynic in me says that he's trying to impress watching teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see him away during January.
If Youan goes, Boyle has to stay as they are our only players with pace, albeit we don't have the midfielders to unlock it.
I agree. Hopefully we can get a couple of players in to bleed some life into the team. Far too long in seasons gone by we have relied heavily on the likes of Boyle, Nisbet, Maolida and Youan to get us through games. There is surely still money to be spent if we were fronting 1 mil in a failed attempt to bring that lad from Dundee in.
JimBHibees
07-12-2024, 09:19 AM
9 games in the league, 7 starts, but no goals or assists. He’s going to need to improve massively and quickly. He’s not scored a goal, full stop, since February.
I think he’s looked a bit better in the last couple of games but we need a hell of a lot more.
He has been good the last two games will only get better if picked
Nicho87
07-12-2024, 09:31 AM
Goalkeeper
Centre forward
That has to be the priorities
Shipping a few of the books would be good if it frees up further space
JDH
Kennah
McKirdy
Boruc
Bursik cancel loan
Levitt
Amos
NMW I can see being moved on
Vente if we get an offer
GreenPJ
07-12-2024, 10:05 AM
Goalkeeper
Centre forward
That has to be the priorities
Shipping a few of the books would be good if it frees up further space
JDH
Kennah
McKirdy
Boruc
Bursik cancel loan
Levitt
Amos
NMW I can see being moved on
Vente if we get an offer
I suspect funds will be found for a keeper but think anything beyond that will be reliant on people being shipped out first and I think that has to be the priority beyond the keeper.
Cabbage-Patch
07-12-2024, 11:13 AM
Goalkeeper
Centre forward
That has to be the priorities
Shipping a few of the books would be good if it frees up further space
JDH
Kennah
McKirdy
Boruc
Bursik cancel loan
Levitt
Amos
NMW I can see being moved on
Vente if we get an offer
Be delighted with all that but no way we get that amount of business done.
Folk like JDH, McKirdy, Kenneh etc will run down their contracts as nobody will want them.
I would like to see this
Outs
Bursik (loan terminated)
NMW (sold or loaned)
Amos (Sold or loaned)
Vente(Sold or recalled)
Ins
Keeper
CB
2x CMs
Striker
GreenCastle
07-12-2024, 04:46 PM
Surely McKirdy, Amos, Kenneh and Bursik will leave.
McKirdy missed last 4 squads.
thebausburst
07-12-2024, 04:49 PM
I suspect funds will be found for a keeper but think anything beyond that will be reliant on people being shipped out first and I think that has to be the priority beyond the keeper.
I don’t think so, Hibs were prepared to spend 1m just before the last window closed and didn’t so surely there are funds available.
Paul1642
07-12-2024, 04:53 PM
I don’t think so, Hibs were prepared to spend 1m just before the game indow closed and didn’t so surely there are funds available.
The pre season budget was probably calculated with a top 5 finish expected and a longer run in the league cup than we managed.
If the budget is unaltered despite our new expected finish (top 6 at a big push) then the owners will need to absorb it or debt accumulated affecting future budgets.
That said, buying our way out of the relegation zone is less expensive than going down (which I don’t think we will but it’s a very real risk).
Partyraiser
07-12-2024, 04:58 PM
The pre season budget was probably calculated with a top 5 finish expected and a longer run in the league cup than we managed.
If the budget is unaltered despite our new expected finish (top 6 at a big push) then the owners will need to absorb it or debt accumulated affecting future budgets.
That said, buying our way out of the relegation zone is less expensive than going down (which I don’t think we will but it’s a very real risk).
The owners have got us into this mess so I think they should be putting their hands in their pockets to get us out of it
Ribs1875
08-12-2024, 09:11 AM
Let's not forget our failed 1 mil we front for Luke McGowan will still be sitting there.
Emptying the likes of Kenneh, NMW, Amos, and JDH would free wages up.
andrew70
08-12-2024, 09:15 AM
Let's not forget our failed 1 mil we front for Luke McGowan will still be sitting there.
Emptying the likes of Kenneh, NMW, Amos, and JDH would free wages up.
I don’t think the million will be “sitting there” it may come from elsewhere but by all accounts McCowan was a player coveted by Ian Gordon. He was “determined” to sign him. Something tells me he may be a bit more reluctant to spend that million now.
The BK group may well come up with the finances this time around but I can’t see us spending anything like that on a player in January and if we do I’d be a bit worried we’ve been had.
Teams aren’t going to let players like McCowan leave in this window.
Ribs1875
08-12-2024, 09:24 AM
I don’t think the million will be “sitting there” it may come from elsewhere but by all accounts McCowan was a player coveted by Ian Gordon. He was “determined” to sign him. Something tells me he may be a bit more reluctant to spend that million now.
The BK group may well come up with the finances this time around but I can’t see us spending anything like that on a player in January and if we do I’d be a bit worried we’ve been had.
Teams aren’t going to let players like McCowan leave in this window.
I personally think we should be delving into the Scandinavian market for this reason. Their seasons are finished and there are likely a couple of loans and signings we could make.
Eyrie
08-12-2024, 09:29 AM
We know there will be a summer clear out due to the number of contracts we have ending.
We know that most of our summer signings will be out of contract.
So it is possible to get a couple of those summer targets in early because it means their current club won't lose them for nothing. Only issue is whether the player's value to their current club is more than their value to us for the second half of the season.
andrew70
08-12-2024, 09:54 AM
I personally think we should be delving into the Scandinavian market for this reason. Their seasons are finished and there are likely a couple of loans and signings we could make.
I’d like to see that too but in the position we are in we have to get someone who hits the ground running.
Needs to be a good player.
Someone like Ari Sigurpalsson from Vikingur Reykjavik.
superfurryhibby
08-12-2024, 11:33 AM
I don’t think the million will be “sitting there” it may come from elsewhere but by all accounts McCowan was a player coveted by Ian Gordon. He was “determined” to sign him. Something tells me he may be a bit more reluctant to spend that million now.
The BK group may well come up with the finances this time around but I can’t see us spending anything like that on a player in January and if we do I’d be a bit worried we’ve been had.
Teams aren’t going to let players like McCowan leave in this window.
Players who's contracts expire in the summer will have clubs selling at cut price, a bit like we did with Porteous?
Not sure why the BK's would be stumping up the cash, that makes no business sense to me.
The Gordon's will need to step up. They are the majority shareholders and it would be a disaster for them if we were relegated. The asset would be worth considerably less as a Championship club. My feeling is that they will sell up at the end of the season.
Ribs1875
08-12-2024, 11:58 AM
There are players out there who will not be getting game time like Marcondes and Maolida. We just need to offload first. I'd be looking at lower leagues as well to unearth a few gems.
Bridge hibs
08-12-2024, 12:47 PM
There are players out there who will not be getting game time like Marcondes and Maolida. We just need to offload first. I'd be looking at lower leagues as well to unearth a few gems.
Marcondes is getting game time at Norwich City
Ribs1875
08-12-2024, 12:55 PM
Marcondes is getting game time at Norwich City
I'm saying there are players like that out there in a similar predicament the likes of Marcondes and Maolida were in last season.
Bridge hibs
08-12-2024, 12:57 PM
I'm saying there are players like that out there in a similar predicament the likes of Marcondes and Maolida were in last season.
Ah, I get you now 👍
Hibiza
08-12-2024, 01:15 PM
Yesterday proved that our attack is as inept as our defence and midfield.
CapitalGreen
08-12-2024, 01:26 PM
Yesterday proved that our attack is as inept as our defence and midfield.
Did it need proving? Attack has been our biggest issue for most of this season.
eastmainsmsh
08-12-2024, 02:04 PM
Yesterday proved that our attack is as inept as our defence and midfield.
And that's why we are in a serious battle against relegation other teams have picked up
andrew70
08-12-2024, 02:05 PM
Players who's contracts expire in the summer will have clubs selling at cut price, a bit like we did with Porteous?
Not sure why the BK's would be stumping up the cash, that makes no business sense to me.
The Gordon's will need to step up. They are the majority shareholders and it would be a disaster for them if we were relegated. The asset would be worth considerably less as a Championship club. My feeling is that they will sell up at the end of the season.
If I was the Gordon family there’s no chance I’d be pumping in even more money after the abuse they’ve received.
They’ve stepped up over and over again.
The BK will certainly be helping us with players this winter whether that be cash or otherwise.
JohnM1875
08-12-2024, 02:10 PM
If I was the Gordon family there’s no chance I’d be pumping in even more money after the abuse they’ve received.
They’ve stepped up over and over again.
The BK will certainly be helping us with players this winter whether that be cash or otherwise.
They're receiving abuse because of the mismanagement of their spend. That mismanagement has led us to bottom of the league after 16 games, add into that we had an owner with no experience buying players nowhere near the required level.
You'd have to be mad as an owner of a football club to not expect abuse for that.
They’ve already said they'll cover the losses for the season, so another season of mismanagement from them.
we are hibs
08-12-2024, 02:29 PM
I hope the Gordons don't invest any more money. I'd rather they sold up and ****ed off than throw more money at it and drag us further down than they already have.
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superfurryhibby
08-12-2024, 02:31 PM
If I was the Gordon family there’s no chance I’d be pumping in even more money after the abuse they’ve received.
They’ve stepped up over and over again.
The BK will certainly be helping us with players this winter whether that be cash or otherwise.
It's not about the 25% shareholder though. They want Hibs and will almost certainly end up being our next owners. I'm sure the SFA will relax their rules on club ownership to accommodate them.
My point is that the Gordon's can't afford not to invest, a relegated Hibs value plummets?
JohnM1875
08-12-2024, 02:35 PM
It's not about the 25% shareholder though. They want Hibs and will almost certainly end up being our next owners. I'm sure the SFA will relax their rules on club ownership to accommodate them.
My point is that the Gordon's can't afford not to invest, a relegated Hibs value plummets?
Especially when they get wind of this;
"Rangers director Alastair Johnston says new Ibrox chief executive Patrick Stewart's first task will be to explore the possibility of striking up multi-club partnerships with rivals abroad"
Was in Fridays BBC gossip column.
BoomtownHibees
08-12-2024, 03:07 PM
And that's why we are in a serious battle against relegation other teams have picked up
Who have picked up? Others have been just as bad, if not worse, than us. We win on Saturday we go up to 8th in the league
Ribs1875
08-12-2024, 03:28 PM
I remember there was a time teams like us, them, united and Co had players who would have been good enough to play in the old firm. Right now (minus Aberdeen) the standard of players kicking about in Scottish football is not good enough. Tells a story in itself when looking at how bad Rangers are, yet man for man have better quality than everyone else.
big gogs
08-12-2024, 07:53 PM
It's not about the 25% shareholder though. They want Hibs and will almost certainly end up being our next owners. I'm sure the SFA will relax their rules on club ownership to accommodate them.
My point is that the Gordon's can't afford not to invest, a relegated Hibs value plummets?i
I have no inside knowledge of the running of hibs,but I feel bill foley is very vocal of the goings on at the club.for a man to have a 25% share he is not shy in saying his piece.i do believe the Gordon family want out,simply obvious it’s costing them money .
andrew70
08-12-2024, 08:14 PM
It's not about the 25% shareholder though. They want Hibs and will almost certainly end up being our next owners. I'm sure the SFA will relax their rules on club ownership to accommodate them.
My point is that the Gordon's can't afford not to invest, a relegated Hibs value plummets?
I think the “value” has already been agreed.
The AGM will be interesting this time around.
The Gordon’s will be selling anyway. BK will have ‘control’ this window, Kit and Ian shouldn’t put anymore in and I don’t think they will be.
Iain G
08-12-2024, 08:31 PM
I think the “value” has already been agreed.
The AGM will be interesting this time around.
The Gordon’s will be selling anyway. BK will have ‘control’ this window, Kit and Ian shouldn’t put anymore in and I don’t think they will be.
Where is the info coming from? They can't sell to the Black Knights so is there another buyer lined up? Or is this speculation?
andrew70
08-12-2024, 08:34 PM
Where is the info coming from? They can't sell to the Black Knights so is there another buyer lined up? Or is this speculation?
It’s really the only way out of all this. Why would the Gordon’s stay?
I understand the mess we are in but it’s not been for the want of their money or efforts. It’s just not worked but their ownership is untenable that much is obvious.
I look forward to the AGM for more clarity.
Iain G
08-12-2024, 08:37 PM
It’s really the only way out of all this. Why would the Gordon’s stay?
I understand the mess we are in but it’s not been for the want of their money or efforts. It’s just not worked but their ownership is untenable that much is obvious.
I look forward to the AGM for more clarity.
But is there a buyer lined up? Or are they just looking for offers?
Joe6-2
08-12-2024, 08:38 PM
It’s really the only way out of all this. Why would the Gordon’s stay?
I understand the mess we are in but it’s not been for the want of their money or efforts. It’s just not worked but their ownership is untenable that much is obvious.
I look forward to the AGM for more clarity.
When is the AGM?
JohnM1875
08-12-2024, 08:39 PM
Where is the info coming from? They can't sell to the Black Knights so is there another buyer lined up? Or is this speculation?
They'll sell to the Black Knights. The SFA will approve it. Chat of Huns looking to get involved with a multi-club set up.
HoboHarry
08-12-2024, 08:39 PM
But is there a buyer lined up? Or are they just looking for offers?
He doesn't know.
7Hero
08-12-2024, 08:41 PM
If I was the Gordon family there’s no chance I’d be pumping in even more money after the abuse they’ve received.
They’ve stepped up over and over again.
The BK will certainly be helping us with players this winter whether that be cash or otherwise.
So a business owner won't stump up if it's a solution to solve there predicament because they are getting abuse.
They would be cutting there nose off to spite there face, that makes no sense at all..
andrew70
08-12-2024, 08:43 PM
So a business owner won't stump up if it's a solution to solve there predicament because they are getting abuse.
They would be cutting there nose off to spite there face, that makes no sense at all..
Not when there’s a wealthy partner wanting more control.
I certainly wouldn’t blame them for walking away.
andrew70
08-12-2024, 08:46 PM
When is the AGM?
Usually end of Jan/Feb am sure.
Donegal Hibby
08-12-2024, 08:48 PM
It’s really the only way out of all this. Why would the Gordon’s stay?
I understand the mess we are in but it’s not been for the want of their money or efforts. It’s just not worked but their ownership is untenable that much is obvious.
I look forward to the AGM for more clarity.
Could the only way out of this not be working with the BK’s and improving the current situation? …
I’m sure it was said at one point the Gordon’s were in it for the long run because of Ron . Be very surprised if they are even considering selling up in truth .
https://youtu.be/TaIFHsP-sl4?si=v85Iku8jhSEZX49d
Joe6-2
08-12-2024, 08:53 PM
Usually end of Jan/Feb am sure.
Thanks, just couldn’t remember
Forza Fred
09-12-2024, 01:40 AM
Especially when they get wind of this;
"Rangers director Alastair Johnston says new Ibrox chief executive Patrick Stewart's first task will be to explore the possibility of striking up multi-club partnerships with rivals abroad"
Was in Fridays BBC gossip column.
They already have been.
In the very late 90's they were major shareholders for a short time of Sydney club Northern Spirit in the now defunct National Soccer League.
I remember they loaned a young player to them who did very well called Stephen Dobbie
Yes, that Stephen Dobbie.
Since452
09-12-2024, 06:24 AM
Especially when they get wind of this;
"Rangers director Alastair Johnston says new Ibrox chief executive Patrick Stewart's first task will be to explore the possibility of striking up multi-club partnerships with rivals abroad"
Was in Fridays BBC gossip column.
To boldly go where no man has gone before?
Iain G
09-12-2024, 10:15 AM
He doesn't know.
Yeah it's all just speculation
Jones28
09-12-2024, 10:36 AM
I think the “value” has already been agreed.
The AGM will be interesting this time around.
The Gordon’s will be selling anyway. BK will have ‘control’ this window, Kit and Ian shouldn’t put anymore in and I don’t think they will be.
Is this all your opinion or do you know something we don't?
Cabbage-Patch
10-12-2024, 07:52 AM
So uh any transfer rumors?....
Centre Hawf
10-12-2024, 08:01 AM
In my opinion the Gordon's will look to sell the club. When that is I do not know.
But from what I've heard the clubs finances, while not armageddon levels or anything at the moment, are a bit of a disaster once again in regards to the money being blown for losses. While the Gordon's have money I'd be amazed if they want to continue supplementing 7 figure losses, even if they are of their own making.
They've brought the Black Knights for the simple reasons of their wallet, they wanted the cash injection last financial year and they want to sell to them when the time is right. That might be in 12 months or 5 years, but I think there's an expectation now that it will happen.
bingo70
10-12-2024, 08:27 AM
So uh any transfer rumors?....
https://x.com/jacobsben/status/1866170808093356475?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
Matai Akimboni signing for Bournemouth.
Only 18 years old so won’t be ready for Premiership football yet, exactly the sort fi signing they’re likely to send our way I think.
El Gubbz
10-12-2024, 08:35 AM
In my opinion the Gordon's will look to sell the club. When that is I do not know.
But from what I've heard the clubs finances, while not armageddon levels or anything at the moment, are a bit of a disaster once again in regards to the money being blown for losses. While the Gordon's have money I'd be amazed if they want to continue supplementing 7 figure losses, even if they are of their own making.
They've brought the Black Knights for the simple reasons of their wallet, they wanted the cash injection last financial year and they want to sell to them when the time is right. That might be in 12 months or 5 years, but I think there's an expectation now that it will happen.
What makes you think the Gordon’s are putting their hands into their pockets to bankroll the losses?
Centre Hawf
10-12-2024, 08:41 AM
What makes you think the Gordon’s are putting their hands into their pockets to bankroll the losses?
A good question. Other than lip service recently about being 'committed to overspend' and chat about writing off football spend I don't really know what money they've given currently to do that.
I do know at times they have given money to spend on players such as Elie with a view of making that money back when he's sold on.
Cabbage-Patch
10-12-2024, 08:41 AM
https://x.com/jacobsben/status/1866170808093356475?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
Matai Akimboni signing for Bournemouth.
Only 18 years old so won’t be ready for Premiership football yet, exactly the sort fi signing they’re likely to send our way I think.
Interesting one but might struggle with the physicality of our league. 18 year old and only ever played in the MLS. I always get the fear with American players after the owl man
EGL2000
10-12-2024, 10:45 AM
Interesting one but might struggle with the physicality of our league. 18 year old and only ever played in the MLS. I always get the fear with American players after the owl man
He could be great but not really what we are needing currently in my opinion. Young with very little first team experience.
bingo70
10-12-2024, 10:57 AM
He could be great but not really what we are needing currently in my opinion. Young with very little first team experience.
It’s maybe what he’s needing though. Potential conflict of interest between the BK’s and Hibs.
I don’t want to be too negative though, firstly because it’s a completely made up guess/rumour by me, also because I think we need good players and they come in all shapes and sizes. I’d rather have a brilliant young inexperienced player who is on their way to big things than an average old huddy with experience.
Centre Hawf
10-12-2024, 11:10 AM
It’s maybe what he’s needing though. Potential conflict of interest between the BK’s and Hibs.
I don’t want to be too negative though, firstly because it’s a completely made up guess/rumour by me, also because I think we need good players and they come in all shapes and sizes. I’d rather have a brilliant young inexperienced player who is on their way to big things than an average old huddy with experience.
I think we can sometimes get caught up on a players wikipedia CV rather than remember that sometimes there's stars ready to be unearthed all over the place and some people develop quickly compared to others. That's where your scouting, data, and for me most importantly character references can come into play. That sorta stuff we don't have access to obviously so can only judge what we can see as fans.
If our 'new' recruitment people think he ticks a lot of boxes to come in then I'll trust them. The problem for me would be if we start bringing in too many of that type of player.
Donegal Hibby
10-12-2024, 11:24 AM
https://x.com/jacobsben/status/1866170808093356475?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
Matai Akimboni signing for Bournemouth.
Only 18 years old so won’t be ready for Premiership football yet, exactly the sort fi signing they’re likely to send our way I think.
Looked in the Bournemouth forum and one poster posted “ Edinburgh bound ? “ . For what it worth I think we have looked better at the back since Iredale has came into the team who is left footed , so is this guy too apparently…
https://youtu.be/-EWABq-lhbs?si=hcVcJC2TJPjDkTm5
bingo70
10-12-2024, 11:45 AM
Looked in the Bournemouth forum and one poster posted “ Edinburgh bound ? “ . For what it worth I think we have looked better at the back since Iredale has came into the team who is left footed , so is this guy too apparently…
https://youtu.be/-EWABq-lhbs?si=hcVcJC2TJPjDkTm5
In our last 4 games we’ve conceded 4, 3, 0 and 3. I think we’ve a bit to go before we can celebrate the improvement in our defence, even though I do realise there’s context behind the numbers.
Since452
10-12-2024, 12:34 PM
https://x.com/jacobsben/status/1866170808093356475?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
Matai Akimboni signing for Bournemouth.
Only 18 years old so won’t be ready for Premiership football yet, exactly the sort fi signing they’re likely to send our way I think.
He'd be sitting on our bench (hopefully). The last type of signing we need to be making in our predicament. If we start signing 18 year old projects for Bournemouths benefit we're going down.
bingo70
10-12-2024, 12:41 PM
He'd be sitting on our bench (hopefully). The last type of signing we need to be making in our predicament. If we start signing 18 year old projects for Bournemouths benefit we're going down.
We bought loads of experience in the summer but they’ve for the most part been pretty *****.
We need good players, whatever age they are.
Donegal Hibby
10-12-2024, 12:46 PM
In our last 4 games we’ve conceded 4, 3, 0 and 3. I think we’ve a bit to go before we can celebrate the improvement in our defence, even though I do realise there’s context behind the numbers.
Understand where your coming from though as you say there’s plenty of context behind them numbers. I have felt we have looked like we have had better balance since Iredale came in though that could also be down to going with a back 3 as well of course…
Anyhow another one that’s free to talk to clubs in January is Jimmy Dunne , not a leftie and played for hertz didn’t he ? Can’t remember was he any good or not ?
Tyler Durden
10-12-2024, 01:33 PM
What makes you think the Gordon’s are putting their hands into their pockets to bankroll the losses?
They wrote off £5m of loans to the club as part of the Black Knights deal.
JimBHibees
10-12-2024, 01:42 PM
They wrote off £5m of loans to the club as part of the Black Knights deal.
Yeah but apart from that.
CropleyWasGod
10-12-2024, 02:03 PM
Yeah but apart from that.
The c£1.5m they put in a few months back? :greengrin
SHODAN
10-12-2024, 02:21 PM
The c£1.5m they put in a few months back? :greengrin
Yeah but apart from that
What makes you think the Gordon’s are putting their hands into their pockets to bankroll the losses?
A good question. Other than lip service recently about being 'committed to overspend' and chat about writing off football spend I don't really know what money they've given currently to do that.
I do know at times they have given money to spend on players such as Elie with a view of making that money back when he's sold on.
They converted a hefty chunk of debt into shares earlier this year, at the same time as the BK money was officially announced
Centre Hawf
10-12-2024, 04:09 PM
They converted a hefty chunk of debt into shares earlier this year, at the same time as the BK money was officially announced
Right you are, I forgot about the debt to equity point.
eastmainsmsh
10-12-2024, 04:32 PM
Mark OHara Alex Gogic would add a bit solidarity in team
The Tubs
10-12-2024, 05:25 PM
Mark OHara Alex Gogic would add a bit solidarity in team
I'd prefer Lech Walesa.
babahibs
10-12-2024, 05:36 PM
I'd prefer Lech Walesa.
Tommy Sheridan was a better left winger
Donegal Hibby
11-12-2024, 10:53 AM
Nothing really new though if we only added quality in these 3 positions I’d be more than happy with the January window….
https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/news/hibs-january-transfer-priorities-named-as-david-gray-looks-to-stave-off-relegation-threat/
Paulie Walnuts
11-12-2024, 10:55 AM
Nothing really new though if we only added quality in these 3 positions I’d be more than happy with the January window….
https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/news/hibs-january-transfer-priorities-named-as-david-gray-looks-to-stave-off-relegation-threat/
Notheoldfirm has learned, nottheoldfirm understands.. in reality, nottheoldfirm is completely guessing.
eastmainsmsh
11-12-2024, 10:59 AM
I'd prefer Lech Walesa.
Lol
Donegal Hibby
11-12-2024, 11:02 AM
Notheoldfirm has learned, nottheoldfirm understands.. in reality, nottheoldfirm is completely guessing.
Probably are as that’s the 3 position most folk would say we need improving… as I said if we only signed 3 good players in them positions I’d be more than happy , anything else would be a bonus.
Springbank
11-12-2024, 12:07 PM
I'd prefer Lech Walesa.
Yes but if we want to improve set pieces, I think it was David Hasselhoff who got it up and over the Berlin Wall
Centre Hawf
11-12-2024, 12:55 PM
Notheoldfirm has learned, nottheoldfirm understands.. in reality, nottheoldfirm is completely guessing.
Said it before in the summer transfers but Not The Old Firm are actually half decent. It went defunct a while back but it's gotten back off the ground recently with a few journalists now going full-time there.
I think they were the first to put the Dwight Gayle one out there too. If something comes from them I would take it seriously.
Jones28
11-12-2024, 01:17 PM
Nothing really new though if we only added quality in these 3 positions I’d be more than happy with the January window….
https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/news/hibs-january-transfer-priorities-named-as-david-gray-looks-to-stave-off-relegation-threat/
"...transfer priorities named..."
Article only names players currently playing for Hibs.
My 3 year old son knows we need these positions filled.
Donegal Hibby
11-12-2024, 01:33 PM
"...transfer priorities named..."
Article only names players currently playing for Hibs.
My 3 year old son knows we need these positions filled.
I know as I did say most folk knew that was the three priority positions that we could do with strengthening though the point I was really trying to make is if the club went for quality players in them 3 positions I’d be happy if that’s all we done in January , of course I’d like more in but I don’t think we will taking in any more than 3/4 .
SHODAN
11-12-2024, 01:58 PM
Said it before in the summer transfers but Not The Old Firm are actually half decent. It went defunct a while back but it's gotten back off the ground recently with a few journalists now going full-time there.
I think they were the first to put the Dwight Gayle one out there too. If something comes from them I would take it seriously.
Yeah I like them too.
Hamish
11-12-2024, 03:09 PM
Always kept an eye on Jordan Rhodes career. Not a regular at Blackpool, may be a variety of reasons, but struck me as a possible if we are looking for a penalty box striker
Bobby's Cinema
11-12-2024, 03:18 PM
Time to bring Jase home from India
HoboHarry
11-12-2024, 04:02 PM
Time to bring Jase home from India
You'd have to drag me back kicking and screaming. Give up Rogan Josh and Vindaloos etc etc for fish and chips? No ta....... :greengrin
Centre Hawf
11-12-2024, 04:08 PM
Always kept an eye on Jordan Rhodes career. Not a regular at Blackpool, may be a variety of reasons, but struck me as a possible if we are looking for a penalty box striker
Great goal record last year for Blackpool but struggled for minutes as you say, wonder if he's struggling for fitness.
eastmainsmsh
11-12-2024, 04:30 PM
Always kept an eye on Jordan Rhodes career. Not a regular at Blackpool, may be a variety of reasons, but struck me as a possible if we are looking for a penalty box striker
Wouldn’t be surprised if Ends up with Critchley at *****castle
Donegal Hibby
11-12-2024, 05:00 PM
Great goal record last year for Blackpool but struggled for minutes as you say, wonder if he's struggling for fitness.
Too much time on my hands today and was passing it by looking at attacking players doing well in league 1 and thought this guy looked alright ….
https://youtu.be/QdIzT2Z-S3A?si=5mq-9zo17moSqigR
JohnM1875
11-12-2024, 05:33 PM
Hope we’re aiming for better than the lower leagues in England.
I get that's where a lot of our players have come from over the years. But that's just it, whats the point in all this investment, tie in with Bournemouth and hiring Garvan Stewart if we're just going to keep doing the same thing.
.Sean.
11-12-2024, 05:51 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if Ends up with Critchley at *****castle
I would love him back I just don’t see it
Stuart93
11-12-2024, 06:33 PM
I would love him back I just don’t see it
Back? I’m positive Rhodes hasn’t played at ER before
Centre Hawf
11-12-2024, 06:36 PM
Hope we’re aiming for better than the lower leagues in England.
I get that's where a lot of our players have come from over the years. But that's just it, whats the point in all this investment, tie in with Bournemouth and hiring Garvan Stewart if we're just going to keep doing the same thing.
I think there's some gems in League 1. But the problem is you have such a narrow gap of players we can afford to pinch from that division that want to actually come up here and are actually better than what we have. You've got guys down there that are on Celtic and Rangers money and at the other end guys who couldn't get a game for Livingston. It's a huge range.
We're never going to be able to be in a position to write off the lower leagues of England as a place to recruit from to be honest, the nature of the beast means we need to sign British players or go hunting for youth internationals who will get work permits, and we know how that's worked out previously. But I'd like to hope that with our new recruitment set up we might be able to sift through the ***** to find the gems a bit better than we have been previously regardless of the market we look in.
blackpoolhibs
11-12-2024, 08:38 PM
Rhodes is another player who cant last 90 minutes, does know where the net is, but do we really need another sub?
PHeffernan
11-12-2024, 11:00 PM
Rhodes is another player who cant last 90 minutes, does know where the net is, but do we really need another sub?
Yeah, Rhodes would be celebrating his 35th birthday a week after the January window closes.
We already have 35 year old Dwight Gayle struggling for game time.
Next!
PHeffernan
11-12-2024, 11:26 PM
Hope we’re aiming for better than the lower leagues in England.
I get that's where a lot of our players have come from over the years. But that's just it, whats the point in all this investment, tie in with Bournemouth and hiring Garvan Stewart if we're just going to keep doing the same thing.
Hibs have an English 1st Division budget so in reality that's where they have to shop if they want to purchase players from England. As for Hibs investment, it was small beer and a one off. Hearts will make a similar amount from playing in Europe this season and Aberdeen made the same amount last season.
A better player demands better wages. Even a Martin Boyle costs a third of a million quid a season in wages. A few Martin upgrades and a Bowie signed up and the budget is shot and then they lose form or get injured.
Just hope Stewart and McKay pick up more Ekpiteta's than Kenneh's and more Beardy Caddens than McKirdy's ....
nah forget that. Hibs must never never ever ever sign another McKirdy or any other skateboarder for actual money. Got to be non league football for him next season!
McKirdy, Kenneh and Amos away in January makes sense given none of them are getting in the matchday squad for Hibs before the expiry of their Hibs contracts at the end of May and they need to play football to get in the shop window.
PatHead
12-12-2024, 07:45 AM
Hibs have an English 1st Division budget so in reality that's where they have to shop if they want to purchase players from England. As for Hibs investment, it was small beer and a one off. Hearts will make a similar amount from playing in Europe this season and Aberdeen made the same amount last season.
A better player demands better wages. Even a Martin Boyle costs a third of a million quid a season in wages. A few Martin upgrades and a Bowie signed up and the budget is shot and then they lose form or get injured.
Just hope Stewart and McKay pick up more Ekpiteta's than Kenneh's and more Beardy Caddens than McKirdy's ....
nah forget that. Hibs must never never ever ever sign another McKirdy or any other skateboarder for actual money. Got to be non league football for him next season!
McKirdy, Kenneh and Amos away in January makes sense given none of them are getting in the matchday squad for Hibs before the expiry of their Hibs contracts at the end of May and they need to play football to get in the shop window.
Who is going to want McKirdy, Kenneth or Amos?
CapitalGreen
12-12-2024, 07:50 AM
Who is going to want McKirdy, Kenneth or Amos?
We wanted them at one point.
eastmainsmsh
12-12-2024, 08:11 AM
Cummings and Maclaren and Marciano
sauzee1989
12-12-2024, 08:18 AM
Kyle vassell
Danny Armstrong
Josh mulligan
Will Dennis
Kimpioka
Marciano
Dylan tait who we somehow let go.
Should be at least looking at them
GloryGlory
12-12-2024, 09:14 AM
If we're getting anyone from Bournemouth I would hope they're already at EM training with the team and being integrated into the group so they're ready to go when the window opens.
easty
12-12-2024, 09:43 AM
Kyle vassell
Danny Armstrong
Josh mulligan
Will Dennis
Kimpioka
Marciano
Dylan tait who we somehow let go.
Should be at least looking at them
Would take Armstrong and either Dennis or Marciano.
Kimpioka is tatties. Aye he’s got a few goals this season, and if you just look at that stat he looks decent, this season is an anomaly on stats for him, and when you watch him he looks every bit the St Johnstone level striker.
I quite like Vassell. Think he’d offer us something, but not goals, he doesnae get many. Puts himself about and can make chances for other players.
Ribs1875
12-12-2024, 10:24 AM
Liam Henderson is out of contract in the summer.
Centre Hawf
12-12-2024, 10:29 AM
Liam Henderson is out of contract in the summer.
Would love it but I can't see it personally. He's playing a lot for a side sitting 10th in Serie A. If they don't resign him I could see him get a decent level club again pretty easily.
In fact if I was Celtic I'd be trying to get him back over.
Ribs1875
12-12-2024, 10:45 AM
Would love it but I can't see it personally. He's playing a lot for a side sitting 10th in Serie A. If they don't resign him I could see him get a decent level club again pretty easily.
In fact if I was Celtic I'd be trying to get him back over.
Type of player we need is someone like him who is good at set pieces. He offers a bit flair, which is what we lack.
Paulie Walnuts
12-12-2024, 10:54 AM
Would love it but I can't see it personally. He's playing a lot for a side sitting 10th in Serie A. If they don't resign him I could see him get a decent level club again pretty easily.
In fact if I was Celtic I'd be trying to get him back over.
29 at the end of the season. He’ll be looking for a final 2 or 3 year deal over there before he even considers coming home imo.
JimBHibees
12-12-2024, 12:45 PM
Would take Armstrong and either Dennis or Marciano.
Kimpioka is tatties. Aye he’s got a few goals this season, and if you just look at that stat he looks decent, this season is an anomaly on stats for him, and when you watch him he looks every bit the St Johnstone level striker.
I quite like Vassell. Think he’d offer us something, but not goals, he doesnae get many. Puts himself about and can make chances for other players.
Agree don’t think Kimpioka should be a target
Donegal Hibby
12-12-2024, 01:36 PM
Must be a few good keepers in league one that would be decent like possibly this one ..
https://youtu.be/XpnHtoTP5OE?si=fGlFz6c4nJ5FgBZo
Jones28
12-12-2024, 01:41 PM
Agree don’t think Kimpioka should be a target
Kimpioka is one of these ones that it's worth keeping tabs on and seeing if he can develop and signing in 18 months once they've had a good bit of experience. Likewise Olusanya at St Mirren. Both similar stats this season according to transfer market.
HIBS NUTS
12-12-2024, 01:49 PM
Would take Armstrong and either Dennis or Marciano.
Kimpioka is tatties. Aye he’s got a few goals this season, and if you just look at that stat he looks decent, this season is an anomaly on stats for him, and when you watch him he looks every bit the St Johnstone level striker.
I quite like Vassell. Think he’d offer us something, but not goals, he doesnae get many. Puts himself about and can make chances for other players.
We let Dylan Tait go, because he was being totally unprofessional, he got injured at Arbroath, and didn’t commit to his rehab, so much so, that Arbroath no longer wanted him, he then went to Hamilton, and again showed a really bad attitude, so was released early, as they no longer wanted him.
He is talented, and I’m glad he’s doing well at Falkirk, as he seems to have realised that, he needed to change his career.
But on this occasion, hibs we’re quite right to get rid.
Hibiza
12-12-2024, 01:58 PM
We wanted them at one point.
😄😄😄
JimBHibees
12-12-2024, 02:00 PM
Kimpioka is one of these ones that it's worth keeping tabs on and seeing if he can develop and signing in 18 months once they've had a good bit of experience. Likewise Olusanya at St Mirren. Both similar stats this season according to transfer market.
Would defo be interested in Olusanya different level to kimpioka imo
Unseen work
12-12-2024, 02:19 PM
I’d much rather Kimpioka to Olusanya
Couple of years younger and much better technically imo, a lot more to his game than Olusanya imo who is all power and pace
Kimpioka is fast, strong but also has the skill and ability to link play
I think if Olusanya played for us we’d live him at the start as he runs about alot etc but quickly fans would see his limitations
JimBHibees
12-12-2024, 03:05 PM
I’d much rather Kimpioka to Olusanya
Couple of years younger and much better technically imo, a lot more to his game than Olusanya imo who is all power and pace
Kimpioka is fast, strong but also has the skill and ability to link play
I think if Olusanya played for us we’d live him at the start as he runs about alot etc but quickly fans would see his limitations
Fair enough not sure seen enough of Kimpioka apart from him at er when sent off.
04Sauzee
12-12-2024, 09:32 PM
I didn't realise Bournemouth have links to a team in the Japanese J League.
𝗞𝘆𝗼𝘁𝗼 𝗦𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗮 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗙𝗖 𝗕𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗵 ⭐🍒 #afcb
AFC Bournemouth have accepted four Kyoto Sanga players to train with our academy setup between December 11th and December 21st. 🍒
This comes from our partnership with the Japanese club which started in October 2024! 🇯🇵
Yuto Anzai and Rikuto Iida will be training with AFC Bournemouth u-21's whilst Sungjun Yoon and Ko Sakai will be training with the u-18's.
When the clubs partnership began, our Head of Football Operations, Tiago Pinto, said: "We will work closely with the Kyoto Sanga in this strategic partnership to continue our objective of discovering and uplifting talent around the world.
JohnM1875
13-12-2024, 01:47 PM
Just over two weeks until the January window opens and not a single credible rumour yet? Thought we’d have heard a few by now.
Unseen work
13-12-2024, 01:52 PM
Just over two weeks until the January window opens and not a single credible rumour yet? Thought we’d have heard a few by now.
Probably hard for news outlets to try and give a credible story recently due to the uncertainty about Gray and then the appointment of Stewart
Would like to see us trying to sign “the best of the rest” type of players again, coupled with the sheer quality like Maolida etc.
The first 3 signings imo need to be
Goalkeeper - one that is a match winner
Number 10/creative midfielder. Think we struggle breaking teams down or having player who regularly makes things happen
Striker - an out and out goalscorer who is capable of scoring/producing a moment of magic out of nothing
K-Zazu
13-12-2024, 01:56 PM
Just over two weeks until the January window opens and not a single credible rumour yet? Thought we’d have heard a few by now.
We need to get rid of players first.
Just over two weeks until the January window opens and not a single credible rumour yet? Thought we’d have heard a few by now.
Not sure there is a lot of money avaliable.
PHeffernan
13-12-2024, 02:31 PM
Who is going to want McKirdy, Kenneth or Amos?
Someone will want them because January is the desperado window.
Every January clubs the length and breadth of the UK sign all manner of ceek to replace injured players or poorly performing ones and when that is combined with players out of contract at the end of the season needing to get in the shop window it means clubs can rid themselves of their dross and perceived bad eggs, until at least the end of the season.
Accordingly in January I see McKirdy moving to a 4th or 5th tier English club desperate for goals, Amos to a 3rd tier English club desperate to add a bit of experience to their midfield and Kenneh to a 3rd or more likely 4th tier English club desperate to add a robust defensive mid. All 3 are out of contract at Hibs at the end of May so can't be sitting about at Hibs with no chance of game time.
P.S. Hibs desperado position is goalkeeper and possibly striker depending on the assessment of the likely participation of Bowie, Kuharevych and Gayle due to injury. I include Gayle as I'm not sure how reliable his hamstrings are which could be why he has been used so sparingly to date.
JohnM1875
13-12-2024, 02:48 PM
We need to get rid of players first.
We’ll absolutely be strengthening in the Jan window. Don't doubt that for a second, regardless of players leaving.
Hibiza
13-12-2024, 04:13 PM
We need to get rid of players first.
And perhaps a manager , David has done everything he didn't need to. Signing older players , signing injury prone players, looking after an his pals
To varying degrees. Still I hope it works out .
Donegal Hibby
13-12-2024, 04:45 PM
And perhaps a manager , David has done everything he didn't need to. Signing older players , signing injury prone players, looking after an his pals
To varying degrees. Still I hope it works out .
Who’s his “ pals “ ?
w pilton hibby
13-12-2024, 06:43 PM
Who’s his “ pals “ ?
Everybody the poster doesn't rate.
eastmainsmsh
13-12-2024, 08:02 PM
I didn't realise Bournemouth have links to a team in the Japanese J League.
𝗞𝘆𝗼𝘁𝗼 𝗦𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗮 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗙𝗖 𝗕𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗵 ⭐🍒 #afcb
AFC Bournemouth have accepted four Kyoto Sanga players to train with our academy setup between December 11th and December 21st. 🍒
This comes from our partnership with the Japanese club which started in October 2024! 🇯🇵
Yuto Anzai and Rikuto Iida will be training with AFC Bournemouth u-21's whilst Sungjun Yoon and Ko Sakai will be training with the u-18's.
When the clubs partnership began, our Head of Football Operations, Tiago Pinto, said: "We will work closely with the Kyoto Sanga in this strategic partnership to continue our objective of discovering and uplifting talent around the world.
Marco Túlio is playing for them ex CCM striker
Bridge hibs
13-12-2024, 08:31 PM
Marco Túlio is playing for them ex CCM striker
Pub league player at best, watched him play for CCM and thought he was garbage
eastmainsmsh
14-12-2024, 09:53 AM
The boy Kenny on loan from Celtic at Shamrock Rovers has been scoring regularly worth a loan ?
The boy Kenny on loan from Celtic at Shamrock Rovers has been scoring regularly worth a loan ?
Saw some chat a week or 2 ago that Celtic want to bring him back in January to have a young backup to their main strikers
Unseen work
14-12-2024, 04:18 PM
The boy Kenny on loan from Celtic at Shamrock Rovers has been scoring regularly worth a loan ?
Goal every 2 games in the league and scored 2 in 3 in Europe
No idea if he’s any good, what sort of player he is or what the LOI standard is like
But 21 years old so he would have to be quality for us to consider getting him on loan imo
Need a proven, quality striker that can score goals and produce something from nothing imo
GloryGlory
14-12-2024, 05:54 PM
The boy Kenny on loan from Celtic at Shamrock Rovers has been scoring regularly worth a loan ?
Weren't we interested in him before he chose to go to Celtc?
CentreForward
14-12-2024, 06:11 PM
Weren't we interested in him before he chose to go to Celtc?
Think we were.
04Sauzee
14-12-2024, 07:10 PM
Weren't we interested in him before he chose to go to Celtc?
There were a couple of boys we were looking at, sure Kenny or another was at the Hibs Vs Celtic league cup final as a guest of Hibs?
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-miss-out-kenny-as-striker-is-primed-for-lowland-league-3520462
kentao
14-12-2024, 09:14 PM
If Bournemouth aren't looking to loan out Will Dennis we should keep an eye on Dundee United`s Jack Walton, Out of contract Summer 2025, 2nd highest save percentage in the league with (76%) behind Kasper Schemeichel (93%). Dundee United have only conceded 19 goals which is 4th lowest in the league. (Celtic 4, Rangers 9, Aberdeen 18).
04Sauzee
14-12-2024, 09:35 PM
If Bournemouth aren't looking to loan out Will Dennis we should keep an eye on Dundee United`s Jack Walton, Out of contract Summer 2025, 2nd highest save percentage in the league with (76%) behind Kasper Schemeichel (93%). Dundee United have only conceded 19 goals which is 4th lowest in the league. (Celtic 4, Rangers 9, Aberdeen 18).
Think he's on loan from Luton with his Luton contract running out in 2026.
AdidasHibernian
14-12-2024, 11:43 PM
If Bournemouth aren't looking to loan out Will Dennis we should keep an eye on Dundee United`s Jack Walton, Out of contract Summer 2025, 2nd highest save percentage in the league with (76%) behind Kasper Schemeichel (93%). Dundee United have only conceded 19 goals which is 4th lowest in the league. (Celtic 4, Rangers 9, Aberdeen 18).
Good shout that
Hibiza
15-12-2024, 03:11 PM
Who’s his “ pals “ ?
The usual underperforming, players and coaches.
Hibees1973
18-12-2024, 11:47 AM
Most of the guys we have paid big fees/wages for in the last few years have been dire or not lived up to expectations. For example Vente, Levitt & Youan. There will be others.
Surely Garvan can come up with better than this.
Donegal Hibby
18-12-2024, 12:03 PM
Most of the guys we have paid big fees/wages for in the last few years have been dire or not lived up to expectations. For example Vente, Levitt & Youan. There will be others.
Surely Garvan can come up with better than this.
I don’t think Youan can be put in this category after the goals and assists he got last season which for a winger was really good.
Crab apple
18-12-2024, 12:31 PM
Most of the guys we have paid big fees/wages for in the last few years have been dire or not lived up to expectations. For example Vente, Levitt & Youan. There will be others.
Surely Garvan can come up with better than this.
I wouldn't put Youan in the same category as Levitt. And when we do eventually sell Ellie I think we will make money.
Unseen work
18-12-2024, 03:52 PM
Youan has just uploaded 3 training clips which highlights one of our main issues
3 times he beats the full back in the box, puts in a cross and it doesn’t result in a goal
Sign a striker (along with about 5 other positions 🤣)
JimBHibees
18-12-2024, 03:54 PM
I don’t think Youan can be put in this category after the goals and assists he got last season which for a winger was really good.
I like Youan and he has certainly contributed for us
superfurryhibby
18-12-2024, 04:26 PM
I like Youan and he has certainly contributed for us
:agree: He's been a good player for Hibs and can't be considered as an under performing signing.
maturehibby
18-12-2024, 04:43 PM
Youan saving himself for the 26th to make our Boxing day even better by going one better and scoring 3 against them.
eastmainsmsh
18-12-2024, 05:11 PM
Just shows play a player in correct position and what a difference
Blaster
18-12-2024, 05:17 PM
I expect we’ll be looking at a centre half. When is Marv expected back?
bingo70
18-12-2024, 05:21 PM
I expect we’ll be looking at a centre half. When is Marv expected back?
O’Hora went off injured last weekend too, if he’s out this week it could be a problem for us.
Donegal Hibby
18-12-2024, 05:35 PM
O’Hora went off injured last weekend too, if he’s out this week it could be a problem for us.
Wonder will we change to a back four and go with Miller , Rocky Iredale and Obita if O’Hora is out ? .
Blaster
18-12-2024, 06:06 PM
Wonder will we change to a back four and go with Miller , Rocky Iredale and Obita if O’Hora is out ? .
That’s what I think we’ll do
500miles
18-12-2024, 06:13 PM
Wonder will we change to a back four and go with Miller , Rocky Iredale and Obita if O’Hora is out ? .
We played Miller on the right of a 3 in preseason. Given how slow we were to drive into space on Saturday, Miller might be an interesting option.
Northernhibee
18-12-2024, 08:49 PM
We played Miller on the right of a 3 in preseason. Given how slow we were to drive into space on Saturday, Miller might be an interesting option.
I’d prefer that. None of our wide defenders are good enough to play as a traditional full back, they’re far better as wing backs. Did Triantis play CB in a back four or five?
MacGruber
18-12-2024, 10:03 PM
I expect we’ll be looking at a centre half. When is Marv expected back?
Initially it said he'd be out to Xmas but it didn't sound close when he was asked doing the tv bit before the County game.
Nicho87
18-12-2024, 10:04 PM
I’d stick to the same shape
No coincidence we change to this and form picks up.
On the basis ohora is injured I’d stick miller in as direct replacement.
If he is struggling himself shift rocky along one and iredale and obita
Triantis at centre half I’ve seen once and that was plenty
eastmainsmsh
19-12-2024, 09:05 AM
I’d stick to the same shape
No coincidence we change to this and form picks up.
On the basis ohora is injured I’d stick miller in as direct replacement.
If he is struggling himself shift rocky along one and iredale and obita
Triantis at centre half I’ve seen once and that was plenty
Reckon Miller would do well at RCH in a back 3
Northernhibee
19-12-2024, 10:13 AM
Out of the two, I’d rather have Obita at LCB than Miller at RCB. Millers positional sense is pretty poor but Obita looked handy there when previously deputised.
badabing67
19-12-2024, 10:14 AM
I thought Obita had a excellent game against Rangers at ER playing on the left of a 3 at the back
LaMotta
19-12-2024, 10:35 AM
Youan has just uploaded 3 training clips which highlights one of our main issues
3 times he beats the full back in the box, puts in a cross and it doesn’t result in a goal
Sign a striker (along with about 5 other positions 🤣)
Classic Youan though, three great bits of play to skin the defender then his final ball lets him down (def on 2 out of the 3!).
Tyler Durden
19-12-2024, 10:39 AM
Out of the two, I’d rather have Obita at LCB than Miller at RCB. Millers positional sense is pretty poor but Obita looked handy there when previously deputised.
I would agree generally but I think this weekend, we need Obita at LWB. I like Nicky Cadden but if he's up against the pace of Shayden Morris this weekend, I think we need Obita. With Cadden in front of him and probably Gayle on the bench.
Tyler Durden
19-12-2024, 10:40 AM
I thought Obita had a excellent game against Rangers at ER playing on the left of a 3 at the back
It was left centre back in a 4. He did have a great game, definitely an option for a LCB in a 3.
The Modfather
19-12-2024, 11:07 AM
Should we be trying to sign permanent players (if they are available) and pre contracts in January or stick to short term loans? It’s a tricky one not to sign too many players, and thus decreasing the opportunity to revamp the squad in the summer when it’s not improbable, and perhaps likely, we have a new manager come the summer who will then have to try and work with players Gray signed.
Though with Garvan Stuart you would hope the signings were more sensible and less specific to the current manager at any one point in time.
EGL2000
19-12-2024, 11:17 AM
Should we be trying to sign permanent players (if they are available) and pre contracts in January or stick to short term loans? It’s a tricky one not to sign too many players, and thus decreasing the opportunity to revamp the squad in the summer when it’s not improbable, and perhaps likely, we have a new manager come the summer who will then have to try and work with players Gray signed.
Though with Garvan Stuart you would hope the signings were more sensible and less specific to the current manager at any one point in time.
Yeah I don't think we will see a load in incoming maybe 3-4 max in the key areas and look to get about the same out if possible. Think we need as much of a clean slate as possible come the summer. We must get a goalkeeper in though in January.
JohnM1875
19-12-2024, 11:31 AM
Some rubbish wee twitter account, Duncan McClean claiming Plymouth are interested in Campbell. First rubbish fake rumour of the window?
Paulie Walnuts
19-12-2024, 12:51 PM
Some rubbish wee twitter account, Duncan McClean claiming Plymouth are interested in Campbell. First rubbish fake rumour of the window?
Would be happy with that. Got time left on his contract so he’d command some sort of fee.
worcesterhibby
19-12-2024, 12:55 PM
Would be happy with that. Got time left on his contract so he’d command some sort of fee.
which midfielder is going to make a significant goal contribution if we sell him ?
Paulie Walnuts
19-12-2024, 01:01 PM
which midfielder is going to make a significant goal contribution if we sell him ?
Joe Newell has the same amount of goals as him. So does Hoilett.
Campbell (and Newell and Hoillet) arent making significant goal contributions. They all have two.
The Modfather
19-12-2024, 01:03 PM
which midfielder is going to make a significant goal contribution if we sell him ?
We’re essentially at the half way point of the season and you’re talking about someone with 2 goals this season. I’ve forgotten he exists for large parts of this season. If we can get a small fee for him, SOLD! I’d not be too fussed in simply freeing up another wage and letting him move on for free. Take advantage of any interest in this squad whenever we can IMO.
cubehindthegoal
19-12-2024, 01:09 PM
Some rubbish wee twitter account, Duncan McClean claiming Plymouth are interested in Campbell. First rubbish fake rumour of the window?
The description rubbish and wee probably answers your question. It might be good for him and fine for us too if it was a move down south though and brought in a good fee, but I’m not sure it would at this stage. I’m happy if he stays in the squad still though, there are much more urgent ones to move out and replace.
supermcginn
19-12-2024, 01:21 PM
which midfielder is going to make a significant goal contribution if we sell him ?
He has only managed to start 5 league games all season in a team that has been absolutely toiling, he also has been left out the squad entirely for a few games, including the derby. If we get an offer for him he'll be off.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2024, 02:56 PM
which midfielder is going to make a significant goal contribution if we sell him ?
Quite confident he won’t be going to Plymouth , he’d be mad too and another thing is that Gray rates him as well …one of the many rumours we will hear over the course of this window that there isn’t any truth in .
Paulie Walnuts
19-12-2024, 03:07 PM
Quite confident he won’t be going to Plymouth , he’d be mad too and another thing is that Gray rates him as well …one of the many rumours we will hear over the course of this window that there isn’t any truth in .
Why would he be mad to?
They’re currently in the Championship. Even relegation will see them in League One in England. He’s not been able to nail down a starting place up here really, so a move could well do him good. He’s coming into the peak of his career, I’m not sure he’ll be wanting to be a bit part player forever more.
Gray also occasionally leaves him completely out of squads and more often than not doesnt start him so I’m not sure he rates him that highly. I’d be astonished if Gray didn’t see an opportunity for a fee for a player that doesn’t start as a good move.
CapitalGreen
19-12-2024, 03:26 PM
Quite confident he won’t be going to Plymouth , he’d be mad too and another thing is that Gray rates him as well …one of the many rumours we will hear over the course of this window that there isn’t any truth in .
Gray might not be here when the window closes.
easty
19-12-2024, 03:44 PM
Quite confident he won’t be going to Plymouth , he’d be mad too and another thing is that Gray rates him as well …one of the many rumours we will hear over the course of this window that there isn’t any truth in .
If they actually want to sign him I’d be amazed if he didn’t go. Not that I believe it’ll happen.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2024, 03:59 PM
Gray might not be here when the window closes.
Gray will IMO be here in January, not so sure Rooney will though .
Bridge hibs
19-12-2024, 04:45 PM
Gray will IMO be here in January, not so sure Rooney will though .
Hope to **** Rooney will be nowhere near hibs, no enough pies 😳
bingo70
19-12-2024, 06:37 PM
Been keeping an eye on Bournemouth rumours in case they sign anyone who could be loaned to us.
Recently been linked with a young defender called Juma Bah. Only 18 years old so probably unlikely to feature for their first team. Looks to have played a decent number of games in La Ligua for Real Valladolid though so maybe still an unrealistic option for us.
https://www.sportitalia.it/2024/12/17/mezza-premier-segue-juma-bah-le-squadre-coinvolte/
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/juma-bah/profil/spieler/1121298
They’ve also been linked with a young Argentinian full back called Julio Soler, he is highly rated though and Transfermarkt rates him worth £8 million and talk seems to be that he is to replace their full back who could be off to Liverpool so we can probably rule that one out straight away.
https://777score.com/news/football/2197402-milos-kerkez-s-potential-move-to-liverpool-gaining-momentum-amid-bournemouth-negotiations
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/julio-soler/profil/spieler/1009658
Both wildly unrealistic options im sure but thats essentially meant to be the point of this link up, so we can sign players who would previously have been wildly unrealistic options. The fact they’re both so young might give us a chance of a short term deal or even to help them get work permits, if not though, I’ve enjoyed looking into them anyway so no harm done.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2024, 07:54 PM
I think someone might have mentioned him already though read that Simo Valakari has said Benji Kimpioka has no interest in discussing a contract with them .. know nothing about him , is he any good ?
hibsforeurope
20-12-2024, 11:55 AM
Quite confident he won’t be going to Plymouth , he’d be mad too and another thing is that Gray rates him as well …one of the many rumours we will hear over the course of this window that there isn’t any truth in .
Under our new structure i'd be surprised if Gray had final say in sales (or transfers). of the 15 contracted 1st team players for next season he would be one i'd look to move on if an offer came in he'll be away.
easty
20-12-2024, 12:13 PM
I think someone might have mentioned him already though read that Simo Valakari has said Benji Kimpioka has no interest in discussing a contract with them .. know nothing about him , is he any good ?
St Johnstone should try to cash in on him in January. He’s not a good player, and he’s having a purple patch. He’s never been on form like this in his career, not even close.
Same as Theo Bair second half of last season.
Donegal Hibby
20-12-2024, 12:27 PM
Under our new structure i'd be surprised if Gray had final say in sales (or transfers). of the 15 contracted 1st team players for next season he would be one i'd look to move on if an offer came in he'll be away.
I don’t know how it works really though I would have thought the manager would have been very involved in what type of signings he wants , who he wants to move on and keep in fairness..
For me campbell’s one we need to keep unless we get a very good offer , far more players on the move on list than Campbell and we are already seeing at this moment in time in defence and attack how a couple of injuries can leave us down to the wire .
PHeffernan
20-12-2024, 12:43 PM
St Johnstone should try to cash in on him in January. He’s not a good player, and he’s having a purple patch. He’s never been on form like this in his career, not even close.
Same as Theo Bair second half of last season.
He's still only 24 and has had to go back to go forward. Appears to have done well and wants to move forward again.
Like 99% of Hibs supporters i've not seen him play many full games or more importantly seen him live other than against Hibs to properly guage his ability.
He's played for good clubs in Sweden, Switzerland and England so it won't bother him to move anywhere in Europe ... that doesn't have a war.
Brightside
20-12-2024, 12:45 PM
Gray will IMO be here in January, not so sure Rooney will though .
Gray will only be here if the BK group have not been able to organise the replacement.
A Hi-Bee
20-12-2024, 12:49 PM
Gray will only be here if the BK group have not been able to organise the replacement.
No chance, they will already know who they want.
superfurryhibby
20-12-2024, 01:04 PM
Gray will only be here if the BK group have not been able to organise the replacement.
Gray will only not be here if the side doesn't gather adequate points over the festive fixtures.
Donegal Hibby
20-12-2024, 01:27 PM
Gray will only be here if the BK group have not been able to organise the replacement.
Not having a go though I seen on other threads folk giving the impression that the BK group have all the power , surely as the majority shareholders the Gordon’s would have the final say on such matters , no?
Brightside
20-12-2024, 01:33 PM
No chance, they will already know who they want.
Agreed. But that person may not be available (yet).....otherwise Dave may well have been away after the St Mirren game.
HoboHarry
20-12-2024, 01:34 PM
Not having a go though I seen on other threads folk giving the impression that the BK group have all the power , surely as the majority shareholders the Gordon’s would have the final say on such matters , no?
That's the point that Bill Foley was making - if you aren't going to listen then fine, but there'll be no further investment heading your way. The fact that Garvan Stewart is already on board shows that a) the Gordons are listening and b) Bill Foley has a strong influence.
Brightside
20-12-2024, 01:34 PM
Not having a go though I seen on other threads folk giving the impression that the BK group have all the power , surely as the majority shareholders the Gordon’s would have the final say on such matters , no?
There is clearly a shift happening - and not before time.
There is clearly a shift happening - and not before time.
Sooner the better.
Donegal Hibby
20-12-2024, 01:43 PM
That's the point that Bill Foley was making - if you aren't going to listen then fine, but there'll be no further investment heading your way. The fact that Garvan Stewart is already on board shows that a) the Gordons are listening and b) Bill Foley has a strong influence.
I think the Garvan Stewart appointment does show the Gordon’s are listening which is a good thing and Foley has some strong influence again which is good and hopefully both parties will work together though my point was even if the BK group did identify a new manager it still would need the Gordon’s approval as the owners of the football club though.
Hibiza
20-12-2024, 01:47 PM
Some rubbish wee twitter account, Duncan McClean claiming Plymouth are interested in Campbell. First rubbish fake rumour of the window?
Hope it's true , Newell too please .
Rumble de Thump
20-12-2024, 02:40 PM
Probably to be expected, but Gayle has announced he'll likely be hanging up his boots at the end of the season.
Tambo
20-12-2024, 03:01 PM
Can see Rudi going out on Loan in January, he done very well at the start then had a couple of off games then we never seen much of him.
PHeffernan
20-12-2024, 03:06 PM
Probably to be expected, but Gayle has announced he'll likely be hanging up his boots at the end of the season.
Was only signed in desperation to cover for the injury to Bowie. His football brain is still tops but as he says at 35 his body is toiling which is why we saw so little of him until Kuharevych became broken. He was central to us winning on Saturday but looked knackered at many points during it.
I would be holding him back for the Hearts game if Myko is not going to be ready as I don't think he can physically play both.
Hibees1973
20-12-2024, 03:14 PM
There is clearly a shift happening - and not before time.
Sincerely hope so.
To have two forwards who are both over the age of 34 and at the fag end of their careers and a couple of goalkeepers, who to be honest shouldn't be anywhere near Hibs would hope it is a seismic shift.
PHeffernan
20-12-2024, 03:27 PM
Sincerely hope so.
To have two forwards who are both over the age of 34 and at the fag end of their careers and a couple of goalkeepers, who to be honest shouldn't be anywhere near Hibs would hope it is a seismic shift.
Gayle is only here because Bowie was injured outside the window and Hoilett is a winger who proved he still had it last season at Aberdeen last season and has to date justified being brought to Hibs with his performances. Both will be gone in 5 months time. The keepers, i agree we messed up badly.
Unfortunately, Hibs had to kick the can down the road until May 2025. That's the sliding doors moment for Hibs when McKay and Stewart have to get our recruitment right. It's the once in a team cycle when lots of players contracts end and the next cycle begins. Wouldn't surprise me if Stewart moved back to Bournemouth at the end of September 2025.
04Sauzee
20-12-2024, 04:52 PM
Less than 2 weeks before the window slams open 😁
Brightside
21-12-2024, 08:22 AM
Can see Rudi going out on Loan in January, he done very well at the start then had a couple of off games then we never seen much of him.
He’s been struggling with an injury.
HIBS NUTS
21-12-2024, 09:36 AM
The best signing we could make on January the second .
Is Kevin Dabrowski, of raith, hibs fan,he is out of contract this summer, I believe.?
Fantastic shot stopper, and now all round better goalkeeper than when he left us.
Albert Kidd 86’
21-12-2024, 09:52 AM
The best signing we could make on January the second .
Is Kevin Dabrowski, of raith, hibs fan,he is out of contract this summer, I believe.?
Fantastic shot stopper, and now all round better goalkeeper than when he left us.
+1, That was a transfer that made me go Hmmmm.
SteveHFC
21-12-2024, 10:15 AM
The best signing we could make on January the second .
Is Kevin Dabrowski, of raith, hibs fan,he is out of contract this summer, I believe.?
Fantastic shot stopper, and now all round better goalkeeper than when he left us.
Better than our current goalkeepers 👍🏻
CapitalGreen
21-12-2024, 10:19 AM
The best signing we could make on January the second .
Is Kevin Dabrowski, of raith, hibs fan,he is out of contract this summer, I believe.?
Fantastic shot stopper, and now all round better goalkeeper than when he left us.
If that’s the best signing we could make we might as well liquidate the club now.
Bridge hibs
21-12-2024, 10:23 AM
If that’s the best signing we could make we might as well liquidate the club now.
Yeah, if we signed some of the suggested players recently then we most definitely be playing championship football, imagine having the likes of Dobrowski, Gogic and Ollie Shaw elevating us to the dizzy heights of 3rd place
Albert Kidd 86’
21-12-2024, 10:27 AM
If that’s the best signing we could make we might as well liquidate the club now.
Ok, maybe not the best signing! but with the benefit of hindsight, he would of been better staying with us rather than mr Bursik arriving surely?
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