Winter transfer thread 2024/25

[neil7908]

I seem to be unable to find the bit where Gray comes close to suggesting it is made up because the transfer window is open. He’s confirmed there that he’s injured.

The only people who know the truth are inside the club but the timing has more than a whiff of suspicion about it.

[Fifeshirehibs]

Its not really. Was definitely the case earlier in the season but the subs have been pretty effective during this recent good run.

It's happened in 75% of league games this season, am fed up with it!

[Heisenberg]

It's happened in 75% of league games this season, am fed up with it!

Three times we’ve given away a penalty to gift the opposition a point in the closing stages of games. It’s madness.

[hibsbollah]

Not convinced Wales would cost that much due to how little he’s played.

Think Cameron and Mulligan would be over half a million each though due to appearances and potentially Scotland 21 appearances?

I’m sure there’s a certain way to estimate how much you get for it online somewhere

Agree re Bannan though

I was talking up Barry Bannan as a splash signing even when Wednesday were in the 3rd tier, my season ticket holding relatives down there idolise him, say he should be playing for Scotland. That was before i checked he was on 25k-30k a week :greengrin possibly more now, so well out of our range sadly. SWFC are a huge sleeping giant.

[B.H.F.C]

The back three were fine today, especially Rocky, but we lost the control we had in midfield when Levitt went off. That’s where we need to strengthen and another option up front.

Not concerned about another forward option. That isn’t really what has cost us this season whereas we’ve only kept three clean sheets in the league all season. I don’t think it was a penalty yesterday but it was also poor defending leading up to it. We will rarely see a game out and deal with any pressure when we’re only a goal up.

[hibsbollah]

Not sure re “especially Rocky”. Watch the 2nd penalty back, Rocky basically loses his man. People may not think it’s a penalty but the guy could have scored…. It’s slack from Obita and Rocky.

I do agree though that CBs aren’t the priority in this window.

Yet again, most posters have him in their stand out performers for the team yesterday though. I still struggle with this assessment that whichever defender is nearest the striker when a goal is scored/mistake made has committed an ‘error’, like its baseball ir something. Half the time we’re in a defensive zone in these situations and the closest player isn’t necessarily his ‘man’. As we’ve said before, some clarity on what structure we’re playing from someone who understands these things would be welcome.

[B.H.F.C]

Three times we’ve given away a penalty to gift the opposition a point in the closing stages of games. It’s madness.

In fairness, I think a couple of them are highly debatable ones. But it’s similar things, crosses not being stopped and then not being dealt with and/or giving referees an opportunity. Chuck in the penalty up at St Johnstone as well, which although not last minute, cost us a couple of points.

[TrinityHibby]

Too many personal attacks on fellow supporters on here, people have different opinions, whether they are right or wrong isn’t the point.

I completely agree with you mate……this is a forum and therefore individual opinions should be respected. Personal abuse is bang out of order.

[Tyler Durden]

Yet again, most posters have him in their stand out performers for the team yesterday though. I still struggle with this assessment that whichever defender is nearest the striker when a goal is scored/mistake made has committed an ‘error’, like its baseball ir something. Half the time we’re in a defensive zone in these situations and the closest player isn’t necessarily his ‘man’. As we’ve said before, some clarity on what structure we’re playing from someone who understands these things would be welcome.

In terms of the “his man” comment. It’s a basic principle of defending that at times you’ll be in positions and you cover the player that is the most immediate threat to your goal. Until you can perhaps pass that man on safely.

At the penalty Rocky has the guy covered and is likely trying to ask Iredale to take him as he’s moving more centrally. Rocky should cover the near post and/or make sure he stays between the attacker and our goal. He switches off.

As for someone who understands these things…. This was the same assessment made by the Sportscene panel last night.

It’s not some huge attack on him here. In every game in the league yesterday there are defenders making mistakes. We have lost tons of goals from crosses coming from our right. Miller, Obita and Rocky continually switch off IMO. As someone else has pointed out, we haven’t kept many clean sheets.

My simple point you’re quoting is that I said Rocky can’t have played especially well, when he’s made this mistake in the last few mins of the game. That’s it.

[TrinityHibby]

Three times we’ve given away a penalty to gift the opposition a point in the closing stages of games. It’s madness.

unfortunately it’s what teams do when they aren’t very good…..Hibs are currently a mediocre mid table side who rarely dominate or control a game …..late goals we concede are just an indicator of why we need to strengthen…..unfortunately it looks like we will need to wait until next season for planned improvement …..hopefully we can scrape into top 6 for a much needed revenue boost 🤞

[mcfly]

unfortunately it’s what teams do when they aren’t very good…..Hibs are currently a mediocre mid table side who rarely dominate or control a game …..late goals we concede are just an indicator of why we need to strengthen…..unfortunately it looks like we will need to wait until next season for planned improvement …..hopefully we can scrape into top 6 for a much needed revenue boost 🤞

Deary me. A mediocre team?

It was a dreadful refereeing decision for the penalty as it was never a penalty.

We are unbeaten in 8 or 9 games. The turnaround in form and belief is unbelievable

The negative rubbish in the pages is boring. Even if we were top of the league folk on here would moan

[Tyler Durden]

unfortunately it’s what teams do when they aren’t very good…..Hibs are currently a mediocre mid table side who rarely dominate or control a game …..late goals we concede are just an indicator of why we need to strengthen…..unfortunately it looks like we will need to wait until next season for planned improvement …..hopefully we can scrape into top 6 for a much needed revenue boost 🤞

Thankfully there are only 2 teams better than us and the other mediocre teams we’re battling with

That’s the league

[04Sauzee]

Could be a busy 9 days 🤪

[Allant1981]

unfortunately it’s what teams do when they aren’t very good…..Hibs are currently a mediocre mid table side who rarely dominate or control a game …..late goals we concede are just an indicator of why we need to strengthen…..unfortunately it looks like we will need to wait until next season for planned improvement …..hopefully we can scrape into top 6 for a much needed revenue boost 🤞

We have dominated and controlled quite a few games recently, you can't be watching us very often

[B.H.F.C]

Deary me. A mediocre team?

It was a dreadful refereeing decision for the penalty as it was never a penalty.

We are unbeaten in 8 or 9 games. The turnaround in form and belief is unbelievable

The negative rubbish in the pages is boring. Even if we were top of the league folk on here would moan

7 wins in 24 could be considered fairly mediocre IMO.

Disappointed we’ve not improved things in this window yet.

[GreenCastle]

Still think we need a proper CDM.

The midfield yesterday still had massive gaps at times.

I am also in the camp of we need better defenders whether it be now or summer but still have some silly mistakes in us.

You could pretty much go through both keepers to back 4 to costly errors this season in games.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

unfortunately it’s what teams do when they aren’t very good…..Hibs are currently a mediocre mid table side who rarely dominate or control a game …..late goals we concede are just an indicator of why we need to strengthen…..unfortunately it looks like we will need to wait until next season for planned improvement …..hopefully we can scrape into top 6 for a much needed revenue boost 🤞

Dont think id agree, even the start of the season we were dominant most games with possession & shots on target, it was wasteful finishing that was letting us down.

In reverse order (possession):
Ross Co Away 57%
Motherwell Home 55%
St Johnstone Away 60%
Killie Home 59%
Ross Co Home 58%
St Mirren Home 69%
Dundee U Home 57%
Ross Co Away 54%
Dundee U Away 55%
Dundee Home 59%

Some outliers there where we havent dominated the ball and still got a result

[Ribs1875]

Yesterday is another example of our biggest issue more so than needing a midfield or defender is our need for a striker. I hate stats, however we had 13 shots on goal, 1 scored out of 4 on target. We are finding ourselves defending a narrow lead too often this season, only for us to drop points in the dying minutes. If we had a finisher up top we would put these type of games to bed by the 70th minute.

[Cat Stanton]

Could be a busy 9 days 🤪

... of people bickering on this thread

[KazaHibs]

Yesterday is another example of our biggest issue more so than needing a midfield or defender is our need for a striker. I hate stats, however we had 13 shots on goal, 1 scored out of 4 on target. We are finding ourselves defending a narrow lead too often this season, only for us to drop points in the dying minutes. If we had a finisher up top we would put these type of games to bed by the 70th minute.

Like a Vente?

[Ribs1875]

Like a Vente?

Definitely a case to be made there about Vente, however he would have been another one who would have split opinion this season giving the dreadful start we had. I wonder if they loaned him out in the hope to attract interest to move him on. Similar to the way they managed to move Melkersen on to recoup the money spent.

[Northernhibee]

Like a Vente?

Other than a nice game against Elgin, Vente proved he couldn’t finish his dinner if he tried. Wasted numerous great chances in the rest of the league cup group stages this season and almost never got into goal scoring positions for the majority of last season despite a decent first handful of games.

He’s woeful.

[Callum_62]

Other than a nice game against Elgin, Vente proved he couldn’t finish his dinner if he tried. Wasted numerous great chances in the rest of the league cup group stages this season and almost never got into goal scoring positions for the majority of last season despite a decent first handful of games.

He’s woeful.He's scored 5 in 18 in Holland's top flight though

No one who's woeful will do that I wouldn't think

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[Northernhibee]

He's scored 5 in 18 in Holland's top flight though

No one who's woeful will do that I wouldn't think

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Just like here, weren’t the majority of those goals near the start of his time at that club?


He’s a waste of a wage in this league but may be OK somewhere that he gets the space and time to be given the perfect opportunity to score. He’s not got the pace or the willingness to scrap for it over here though.

[HFC93]

Just like here, weren’t the majority of those goals near the start of his time at that club?


He’s a waste of a wage in this league but may be OK somewhere that he gets the space and time to be given the perfect opportunity to score. He’s not got the pace or the willingness to scrap for it over here though.

He has scored 2 in past three games including a goal against PSV Einhoven.

Edit: PEC Zwolle are playing now and he has just scored so it's now 3 in 4 matches.

[Ray_]

Just like here, weren’t the majority of those goals near the start of his time at that club?


He’s a waste of a wage in this league but may be OK somewhere that he gets the space and time to be given the perfect opportunity to score. He’s not got the pace or the willingness to scrap for it over here though.

I thought he was more than decent when he started here.

Confidence is massive and there are plentiful examples of perceived poor players who have come good, he may be one of them.

As for views on here, we just need to look at the reaction to some, regarding Triantis coming back, to know opinions on here can be every bit as bad as Hibs recruitment under Ian Gordon.

[Ribs1875]

It's pretty harsh to say he is woeful. The whole club as a whole has not performed to expectations for the last couple of seasons. Changing management and coaching staff must be difficult for most players. Then add the fact we signed players who were no better than the under performers we had.

[andrew70]

Just like here, weren’t the majority of those goals near the start of his time at that club?


He’s a waste of a wage in this league but may be OK somewhere that he gets the space and time to be given the perfect opportunity to score. He’s not got the pace or the willingness to scrap for it over here though.

Yet he scrapped away under Montgomery in a role unknown to him. In fact he was very effective in ‘scrapping for it’.

He’s also effective in front of goal.

He’ll be sold in the summer and good luck to him. Will continue to score goals wherever he goes and would have loved to finally get the service that Nicky Cadden provides.

He’s a good player as shown by his ‘early’ goals and adaptability to work hard in a different position albeit he shouldn’t have had to do it for so long.

[B.H.F.C]

Yet he scrapped away under Montgomery in a role unknown to him. In fact he was very effective in ‘scrapping for it’.

He’s also effective in front of goal.

He’ll be sold in the summer and good luck to him. Will continue to score goals wherever he goes and would have loved to finally get the service that Nicky Cadden provides.

He’s a good player as shown by his ‘early’ goals and adaptability to work hard in a different position albeit he shouldn’t have had to do it for so long.

Continue to score goals? He’s hardly been prolific since stepping up from the second division in Holland.

[bod]

Could be a busy 9 days 🤪

Of people posting on this thread about non transfer relevant information

[eastmainsmsh]

He has scored 2 in past three games including a goal against PSV Einhoven.

Edit: PEC Zwolle are playing now and he has just scored so it's now 3 in 4 matches.

Wouldn't be surprised if Feyenoord come on for DV again

[Winston Ingram]

He's scored 5 in 18 in Holland's top flight though

No one who's woeful will do that I wouldn't think

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6 now

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Wouldn't be surprised if Feyenoord come on for DV again

Haha i'll have some of what you're smoking

[Since452]

I think Vente would be beyond us now if he wasn't already our own player if that makes sense. Would really like to see him back here.

[Winston Ingram]

6 now

7 now

[J-C]

Vente was a free scoring forward in the Dutch 2nd Div, he's now scoring in the main Eredivisie, if we tried to buy him now it'd be more than what we paid for him.

[hibsbollah]

Vente has scored 6 in 18 in the top flight iver there? I am amazed by that to be honest, but well done to him. He would just disappear from games up here, seemed incapable of gambling by making run into space. Hes ours till 2026 so maybe we’ll get a fee?

[SHODAN]

Recall Vente 100%.

[Winston Ingram]

Vente was a free scoring forward in the Dutch 2nd Div, he's now scoring in the main Eredivisie, if we tried to buy him now it'd be more than what we paid for him.

Exactly. He’s a clearly very good player who’s confidence unsurprisingly took a dunt when that donut Montgomery changed his focus in the team from goal scoring to swapping positions with wide midfielders and chasing full backs.

Good to see he’s doing well and getting his confidence back.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Recall Vente 100%.

Would happily take him back.

He was hung out to dry but Montgomery, I reckon he’d thrive in this team.

[04Sauzee]

Vente has scored 6 in 18 in the top flight iver there? I am amazed by that to be honest, but well done to him. He would just disappear from games up here, seemed incapable of gambling by making run into space. Hes ours till 2026 so maybe we’ll get a fee?

Must be 7 in 19 now? Still decent btw

[Coco Bryce]

Recall Vente 100%.

He doesn't want to be here though.

Wasn't enjoying his football here and he's happy where he is.

[hibsbollah]

Recall Vente 100%.

He might not be too happy about that. Id leave him where he is and let him enjoy his football for a bit . More likely to benefit us in the long run.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He might not be too happy about that. Id leave him where he is and let him enjoy his football for a bit . More likely to benefit us in the long run.

I can’t also see this side of the argument.

I’d like to see him back here ultimately, but at the same time I can see why leaving him where he is could be beneficial. There’s a good chance he’ll end the season as a double figures goalscorer in a decent league. That would give us a bit of scope to demand a large-ish fee for him.

[Heisenberg]

Don’t see Vente playing for us again. Loan seems to be going well so we should make back at least what we paid

[easty]

Don’t see Vente playing for us again. Loan seems to be going well so we should make back at least what we paid

He’s scoring goals at that level. Id be hoping to make a bit of profit on selling him.

[The Modfather]

He might not be too happy about that. Id leave him where he is and let him enjoy his football for a bit . More likely to benefit us in the long run.

Depending on who we bring in, recalling Vente might also be the difference in turning the draws in recent games like St Johnstone & Ross County into wins and seriously challenging for 3rd. Finishing 3rd (which I can’t see tbh as things stand) would make us more money than we would get for a good fee for Vente in the summer.

[SHODAN]

He doesn't want to be here though.

Wasn't enjoying his football here and he's happy where he is.

A lot's changed since he's been gone, it'd be a much happier club he's coming back to.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s scoring goals at that level. Id be hoping to make a bit of profit on selling him.

Yup. He’s comfortably on course for double figures in a good league for a struggling team and is only 25. I’d be looking for £2m or so.

[Joe6-2]

Depending on who we bring in, recalling Vente might also be the difference in turning the draws in recent games like St Johnstone & Ross County into wins and seriously challenging for 3rd. Finishing 3rd (which I can’t see tbh as things stand) would make us more money than we would get for a good fee for Vente in the summer.

Sadly don’t see us challenging for third either

[LEaston87]

Vente will only have 12 months left on his contract at the end of the season but I wonder how much we could sell him for in the summer, there's no chance he will want to stay and sign a new contract. If he gets another 5+ goals by the end of the season we could surely still be able to get £2m+ for him?

[TrinityHFC]

Depending on who we bring in, recalling Vente might also be the difference in turning the draws in recent games like St Johnstone & Ross County into wins and seriously challenging for 3rd. Finishing 3rd (which I can’t see tbh as things stand) would make us more money than we would get for a good fee for Vente in the summer.

No chance Vente is going to suddenly do what the was nowhere near doing before. He’s in a league now that is very different and best outcome for us is that we get decent money for him.

[hibsbollah]

Depending on who we bring in, recalling Vente might also be the difference in turning the draws in recent games like St Johnstone & Ross County into wins and seriously challenging for 3rd. Finishing 3rd (which I can’t see tbh as things stand) would make us more money than we would get for a good fee for Vente in the summer.

Horses for courses though. There’s perhaps something about the dutch leagues or being in his own country thar suits him. What you describe is possible, id argue its more likely however that if he comes back he continues to struggle in our league just like before, and we lose value by taking him out of where hes thriving.

[500miles]

Vente is too weak and slow to compete in Scotland, we give the Eredivisie way too much credit.

[TrinityHFC]

Sadly don’t see us challenging for third either

Doesn’t take much of a leap for us to be 4 points off third within the week. Strange thing to say in the form we are in. We need to keep it going but no reason at all we shouldn’t be able to challenge for it.

[Green forever]

Recall Vente 100%.

Would make sense if there is a recall clause. I've no idea if there is or not

[CapitalGreen]

I’d much rather have Vente over Myko.

[Coco Bryce]

Doesn’t take much of a leap for us to be 4 points off third within the week. Strange thing to say in the form we are in. We need to keep it going but no reason at all we shouldn’t be able to challenge for it.

Other side of that is we are only 5 points from 2nd bottom.

[A Hi-Bee]

Vente is too weak and slow to compete in Scotland, we give the Eredivisie way too much credit.

Aye, right Dutch to Scottish football at all levels from bottom to top, so far ahead of us it is not even a good discussion.
Technically way superior, vente is a good player in my humble.

[TrinityHFC]

Other side of that is we are only 5 points from 2nd bottom.

Which has nothing really to do with whether we can challenge for third.

[jeffers]

I’d much rather have Vente over Myko.

:agree:

[MacGruber]

Sadly don’t see us challenging for third either

It's there for us but we have to strengthen and go for it. If we don't strengthen this window we won't finish 3rd and could see us finishing below Hearts.
I think we will bring players in though so wait and see how we are looking when window closes

[Joe6-2]

It's there for us but we have to strengthen and go for it. If we don't strengthen this window we won't finish 3rd and could see us finishing below Hearts.
I think we will bring players in though so wait and see how we are looking when window closes

Definitely need to strengthen

[The Modfather]

Doesn’t take much of a leap for us to be 4 points off third within the week. Strange thing to say in the form we are in. We need to keep it going but no reason at all we shouldn’t be able to challenge for it.

There’s only 9 games left before the split and it hangs in the balance what side of the split we end up in. Other teams will have similar fixtures, but in those 9 we have both the Old Firm, a derby and away to St Mirren & Dundee Utd. I think it’s just as likely we fall short of the top 6 on the last day again, with draws probably being our downfall, than it is we challenge for 4th or better.

[hibsbollah]

There’s only 9 games left before the split and it hangs in the balance what side of the split we end up in. Other teams will have similar fixtures, but in those 9 we have both the Old Firm, a derby and away to St Mirren & Dundee Utd. I think it’s just as likely we fall short of the top 6 on the last day again, with draws probably being our downfall, than it is we challenge for 4th or better.

St mirren Dundee Utd and killie on that pitch are all tricky away games. Plus Celtic Aberdeen Hearts at home are the six upcoming games, got a tricky look to it.

[Real Emerald]

Thought we’d at least have had a rumour by now, seems like bringing Vente back is the nearest thing we’ve got. Really disappointing window so far especially given we have a new head of recruitment.

[TrinityHFC]

St mirren Dundee Utd and killie on that pitch are all tricky away games. Plus Celtic Aberdeen Hearts at home are the six upcoming games, got a tricky look to it.

Equally you could say we are one of the form teams in the league. We have a home game coming up v Aberdeen who haven’t beaten us yet then a game v St Mirren who are below us. Dundee Utd are away to Killie then play Celtic. Quite conceivable we could be a point behind them after the next two weeks.

No reason we should still be looking behind us and worrying about how tough playing everyone is. Sane for everyone and our form suggests we are coping better than most.

[hibsbollah]

Equally you could say we are one of the form teams in the league. We have a home game coming up v Aberdeen who haven’t beaten us yet then a game v St Mirren who are below us. Dundee Utd are away to Killie then play Celtic. Quite conceivable we could be a point behind them after the next two weeks.

No reason we should still be looking behind us and worrying about how tough playing everyone is. Sane for everyone and our form suggests we are coping better than most.

We have a shocking record up at tannadice and paisley. And that killie pitch everyone knows about. Im absolutely a glass half full person but i was just looking at the fixtures and thought it looked like a tough run before the break in mid March.

[Unseen work]

7 in 19 is good going for Vente in the Eredivise

I’m not convinced he’ll be what we need here, saying that having Nicky Cadden crossing the ball from wide and playing up top with another striker would be a completely different prospect for him

[Hibs4185]

Vente epitomises everything that has been wrong with the club in terms of a cohesive strategy.

Started with good intentions in actually spending a lot of money to buy a promising player who can be sold for a profit.

Comes and looks good but then played out of position and/or playing with poor support from midfield etc. Gets pelters and dismissed as being a poor signing.

Goes home to a decent team and does what he did previously.

Id love to see him come back and see if he could score goals with the new management and set up.

If I was him though there is no way I’d risk my career by coming back to hibs. He’s in his own countries top flight scoring goals and could stay at his current team or get a move to a bigger team.

There’s no point splashing the cash on a striker if the midfield and defence is poor. Would be better with 3/4 good quality signings at £250-£300k to actual add a bit of quality in each area rather than one expensive striker.

Hopefully we get a couple of million for him which shouldn’t be unrealistic.

[Unseen work]

Fiorini coming on for Dundee United

He’s one I was always impressed with and wanted us to sign

Intrigued how he gets on

[Paul1642]

I personally would like to see Vente back. He was an exciting signing at the time and when he first arrived he looked great. I don’t think we managed him well at all, however admittedly he didn’t do himself any favours with his somehwhat anonymous performances at times.

He’s now achieved more in the game than when he joined for £700k. If we were trying to sign a player who’s scored 7 Eredivsie so far this season we pretty much couldn’t.

We now need to weigh up the decision between:

Getting another 1.5 years out of a quality player who may come really good for us but equally might not, and also may or may not be interested is signing a new contract.

Vs

Letting him continue his current good form in the Eredivsie and potentially selling him for some really good money in the summer.

I don’t know what we could get for him in the summer if finishes the season on 12-15 goals but I’d like to think it would be a fair amount.

[Ribs1875]

If he only has a year to go on his current deal after this season then I would say sell him on. Would rather we recoup the money for him rather than run his contract down and lose him for nothing.

[Northernhibee]

Vente wasn’t played as a midfielder.

He was played as a striker but had to come deeper for the ball as he was piss easy to mark out of the game.

If he didn’t do that then he would probably wouldn’t even get a touch of the ball.

He may work better in leagues where he will get space and time, but here he’s as good as a man down.

The perfect example of a terribly scouted player.

[JohnM1875]

If he only has a year to go on his current deal after this season then I would say sell him on. Would rather we recoup the money for him rather than run his contract down and lose him for nothing.

Think that's what’ll happen this summer.

It's kinda been the perfect loan. Player gets back home, starts scoring again in the top flight so interest in him will be high. We might even get more than what we paid for him. 12 months left being an issue though, but should definitely break even on the fee.

[Ribs1875]

Think that's what’ll happen this summer.

It's kinda been the perfect loan. Player gets back home, starts scoring again in the top flight so interest in him will be high. We might even get more than what we paid for him. 12 months left being an issue though, but should definitely break even on the fee.

From a business point of view it is the most logical thing to do.

[Unseen work]

https://x.com/espnnl/status/1883480481624383540?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Very good finish from a tight angle

Second one was a pen

[Northernhibee]

I’d like to see us test the water for if we could get Olusanya from St Mirren. Caused absolute havoc in the Aberdeen back line and Rubesic ended up subbed off before half time.

Quick, strong, and has become more composed in front of goal over time. Could defo be coached into a top player at this level.

[Ray_]

https://x.com/espnnl/status/1883480481624383540?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Very good finish from a tight angle

Second one was a pen

Didn't seem to have a lot of time or space either :greengrin

[Winston Ingram]

Fiorini coming on for Dundee United

He’s one I was always impressed with and wanted us to sign

Intrigued how he gets on

Couldn’t get a game for Stockport so I wouldn’t expect too much

[Unseen work]

Couldn’t get a game for Stockport so I wouldn’t expect too much

Yeah he done absolutely nothing, no wonder I’m no a scout 🤣

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Vente epitomises everything that has been wrong with the club in terms of a cohesive strategy.

Started with good intentions in actually spending a lot of money to buy a promising player who can be sold for a profit.

Comes and looks good but then played out of position and/or playing with poor support from midfield etc. Gets pelters and dismissed as being a poor signing.

Goes home to a decent team and does what he did previously.

Id love to see him come back and see if he could score goals with the new management and set up.

If I was him though there is no way I’d risk my career by coming back to hibs. He’s in his own countries top flight scoring goals and could stay at his current team or get a move to a bigger team.

There’s no point splashing the cash on a striker if the midfield and defence is poor. Would be better with 3/4 good quality signings at £250-£300k to actual add a bit of quality in each area rather than one expensive striker.

Hopefully we get a couple of million for him which shouldn’t be unrealistic.

Much like Melkerson, if we manage to make a profit off him, the board really arent doing that bad are they?

[blackpoolhibs]

Much like Melkerson, if we manage to make a profit off him, the board really arent doing that bad are they?

Apart from tying up a huge amount of money in a player who does nothing for us, may as well buy some pubs down south :wink: of a few houses in the Lake district and take the earnings from them?

[A Hi-Bee]

Didn't seem to have a lot of time or space either :greengrin

the type of goal we would perhaps see from a proven goal scorer like Dwight Gayle :thumbsup:

[Ray_]

Apart from tying up a huge amount of money in a player who does nothing for us, may as well buy some pubs down south :wink: of a few houses in the Lake district and take the earnings from them?

I think the current board/ownership has supported the team more than anyone, during my time and that was from Harrower.

Tom Hart spent 132K for Harper [including tax], but sold Alex Cropley for 150K, nine months later, while spending 25k for Ally McLeod.

[Hibees1973]

Much like Melkerson, if we manage to make a profit off him, the board really arent doing that bad are they?

Maybe, it's just me but wouldn't you want the pleasure of seeing a new signing performing consistently well in a Hibs jersey.

[Winston Ingram]

Vente wasn’t played as a midfielder.

He was played as a striker but had to come deeper for the ball as he was piss easy to mark out of the game.

If he didn’t do that then he would probably wouldn’t even get a touch of the ball.

He may work better in leagues where he will get space and time, but here he’s as good as a man down.

The perfect example of a terribly scouted player.

What nonsense. He came deeper because the manager ridiculous instructions to rotate with the wide midfielders.

[Springbank]

I’d like to see us test the water for if we could get Olusanya from St Mirren. Caused absolute havoc in the Aberdeen back line and Rubesic ended up subbed off before half time.

Quick, strong, and has become more composed in front of goal over time. Could defo be coached into a top player at this level.

Agree 100%

I was very impressed with him in our opening game of the season

[Aldo]

What nonsense. He came deeper because the manager ridiculous instructions to rotate with the wide midfielders.

I’m sure there was one game Monty had him man mark Callum McGregor.

[easty]

I’d like to see us test the water for if we could get Olusanya from St Mirren. Caused absolute havoc in the Aberdeen back line and Rubesic ended up subbed off before half time.

Quick, strong, and has become more composed in front of goal over time. Could defo be coached into a top player at this level.

All the trouble he caused them yesterday was because Aberdeen absolutely collapsed anytime St Mirren hoofed a ball up the park.

I don’t mind Olusanya, I think he’d be a good squad option, decent to come off the bench.

[Springbank]

All the trouble he caused them yesterday was because Aberdeen absolutely collapsed anytime St Mirren hoofed a ball up the park.

I don’t mind Olusanya, I think he’d be a good squad option, decent to come off the bench.

He tore Rangers apart single handedly recently in the solo striker role in a way that myko wouldn't be able to & looks increasingly impressive imo

[hibsbollah]

What nonsense. He came deeper because the manager ridiculous instructions to rotate with the wide midfielders.

I dont think there’s any need for the rudeness, which seems over the top on here generally at the moment. The difference between a striker playing a bit deeper, a centre forward, a #10 role or a false #9 isn’t ALL THAT marked , is it? Its semantics. Hardly nonsense. Suffice it to say he wasnt being used for in the best position for him to show his best (personally i think he was downright rubbish in way too many games for it to be all about the formation, but thats just my opinion). Good luck to him and hopefully he keeps banging the goals in.

[Chorley Hibee]

I’m sure there was one game Monty had him man mark Callum McGregor.

Which he actually done to great effect.

[04Sauzee]

Few rumours amongst Celtic fans that Kyogo has failed his medical in France. Probably absolute nonsense.

[JohnM1875]

Few rumours amongst Celtic fans that Kyogo has failed his medical in France. Probably absolute nonsense.

I know the chat is Kyogo wanted to leave, but if I was given the choice of keeping Kyogo or getting Jota back, I'm keeping Kyogo every time.

Never understood the hype around Jota at all.

[04Sauzee]

https://x.com/LeifOffenbax/status/1882691036373463246?t=rZWoWQAkExHYqbjZgvDZtA&s=19

Alasana Manneh and Don Deedson will be reported away from the club very soon

[flash]

https://x.com/LeifOffenbax/status/1882691036373463246?t=rZWoWQAkExHYqbjZgvDZtA&s=19

Alasana Manneh and Don Deedson will be reported away from the club very soon

Don Deedson sounds like he should be in an American legal drama.

[Lago]

https://x.com/LeifOffenbax/status/1882691036373463246?t=rZWoWQAkExHYqbjZgvDZtA&s=19

Alasana Manneh and Don Deedson will be reported away from the club very soon
Wish I knew something about them😕

[04Sauzee]

Don Deedson sounds like he should be in an American legal drama.

Full name is Louicius Don Deeson. Unfortunately not linked with Hibs this guy as he looks decent.

[04Sauzee]

Wish I knew something about them😕

alasana manneh has been linked with Hibs over the last week or so.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m sure there was one game Monty had him man mark Callum McGregor.

He did.

As Chorley said, he actually done it very well, but it showed the absolute nonsense way Montgomery used him. He absolutely ruined any chance Vente was ever going to have here.

A truly terrible manager.

[JohnM1875]

https://x.com/LeifOffenbax/status/1882691036373463246?t=rZWoWQAkExHYqbjZgvDZtA&s=19

Alasana Manneh and Don Deedson will be reported away from the club very soon

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[Smartie]

Is it a stretch to imagine Vente playing the sort of role Gayle has played for us?

Vente’s only ever either been isolated in the middle of a 3 or “covering every blade of grass” type for us.

I don’t think it’s wild to think of him as playing up front, staying up front, use his energy and movement wisely and being ready to take chances when they come. Playing with another striker might well help too.

[Joe6-2]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/D-HFV-GBg5sAAAAd/clap-excited.gif

Dare we believe

[Ozyhibby]

If a striker is not signed this window then it’s madness to leave Vente out on loan.


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[HoboHarry]

If a striker is not signed this window then it’s madness to leave Vente out on loan.


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Only if he wants to come back to Hibs.

[Hibernian Verse]

Only if he wants to come back to Hibs.

Only if his club agree


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[HFC93]

If a striker is not signed this window then it’s madness to leave Vente out on loan.


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Do Hibs even have a recall option?

[Winston Ingram]

I dont think there’s any need for the rudeness, which seems over the top on here generally at the moment. The difference between a striker playing a bit deeper, a centre forward, a #10 role or a false #9 isn’t ALL THAT marked , is it? Its semantics. Hardly nonsense. Suffice it to say he wasnt being used for in the best position for him to show his best (personally i think he was downright rubbish in way too many games for it to be all about the formation, but thats just my opinion). Good luck to him and hopefully he keeps banging the goals in.

It’s far from semantics. His role was very clear. He had to rotate with the wide midfielders.

He wasn’t doing that in search of the ball. He was following the managers instructions which meant he spent most his time in either wide midfield role.

[hibsbollah]

It’s far from semantics. His role was very clear. He had to rotate with the wide midfielders.

He wasn’t doing that in search of the ball. He was following the managers instructions which meant he spent most his time in either wide midfield role.

Sometimes, probably. I suggest since you werent in the dressing room yoy probably dont know when and where he was instructed what.

I watched plenty of games when Vente was an orthodox striker and he just didnt make the runs you’d expect him to make. Including when we were trailing and needed someone to do something. Its not all about the coaching.

[JohnM1875]

Sometimes, probably. I suggest since you werent in the dressing room yoy probably dont know when and where he was instructed what.

I watched plenty of games when Vente was an orthodox striker and he just didnt make the runs you’d expect him to make. Including when we were trailing and needed someone to do something. Its not all about the coaching.

Definitely, he missed so many chances as an out an out striker.

I'm glad he's doing well back home, means we'll likely get a good fee for him this summer, but it just didn't work out here.

[Winston Ingram]

Sometimes, probably. I suggest since you werent in the dressing room yoy probably dont know when and where he was instructed what.

I watched plenty of games when Vente was an orthodox striker and he just didnt make the runs you’d expect him to make. Including when we were trailing and needed someone to do something. Its not all about the coaching.

I don’t need to be in the dressing room. Monty said it himself on many occasions that in his ‘fluid 442’ the forwards and wide midfielders rotate.

To add to that. I have eyes. It was exactly what he was doing. He was constantly in the wide midfield positions and the likes Boyle Youan, Maolida and whoever else was playing wide would be in the CF position while he was doing that.

[Paul1642]

If a striker is not signed this window then it’s madness to leave Vente out on loan.


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Money. If he keeps up his form in the Eredivisie then it’s not mad to suggest we could get a lot more than the £700k we paid for him and use that money to buy a player more suited to Scottish football.

[Jonny1875]

Vente is too weak and slow to compete in Scotland, we give the Eredivisie way too much credit.

You're crazy. Much stronger league, we need a signing or two ASAP to return people to sanity.

[B.H.F.C]

You're crazy. Much stronger league, we need a signing or two ASAP to return people to sanity.

Eredivisie is a better league technically and will suit Vente better. He’s not suited to the game here hence why so many games totally passed him by IMO.

[wookie70]

Eredivisie is a better league technically and will suit Vente better. He’s not suited to the game here hence why so many games totally passed him by IMO.

He certainly wasn't suited to the game we were playing before he left. Looking at Gayle he is at least as mobile as him and is similar in scoring most his goals in the 6 yard box often coming across the near post man. He could easily be an important player for us with the style we play at the moment but if we can break even or make a profit then I think I would take that

[Centre Hawf]

Do Hibs even have a recall option?

Unlikely. But the trend of this window appears to be that we all just assume every loan can be cancelled by anyone at any point.

[Ribs1875]

Eredivisie is a better league technically and will suit Vente better. He’s not suited to the game here hence why so many games totally passed him by IMO.

PEC Zwolle are 13th in their league, and will probably finish mid to low half of their table. The whole case could be made if Vente played for Alkmaar, Twente or Utrect who sit high in the ditch league and offer more going forward he could maybe be on double digits. The Scottish game does not suit some players. Couple that with the fact we have performed below par the last couple of seasons, then it was always going to be a task.

I am happy he is hitting form and hope it continues, but realistically I can't see him back at us next season nor do I think he would want to come back if there are offers being made. We got to think about what's best for business.

[basehibby]

Confirmed in (0):
N/A

Confirmed new contracts (1):
Rudi Molotnikov (four and a half years)

Confirmed returned from loan (3):
Murray Aiken
Reuben McAllister
Rory Whittaker

Confirmed out (2):
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh O'Connor (Crusaders)

Confirmed out on loan (1):
Nohan Kenneh (Ross County)

Rumoured in:
Jani Atanasaov (midfielder, Cracovia)
Cameron Dawson (goalkeeper, Rotherham)
Jose Pleguezuelo (defender, Plymouth)
Kelle Roos (goalkeeper, Triestina)
Matias Siltanen (midfielder, KuPS)
Nectarios Triantis, permanent
Dylan Vente, loan return

Rumoured new contracts:
Rocky Bushiri
Lewis Miller

Rumoured out:
Luke Amos
Mykola Kuharevich (loan return)
Josh Landers (West Ham)
Dylan Levitt (Wrexham)
Harry McKirdy
Nathan Moriah-Welsh
Elie Youan

Rumoured in - Alassana Manneh from Odense surely should be top of the list

Any news on this guy? Highlights reel looks good with echos of Scotty Allan style through balls. Ex Barca kid - could this be the long awaited signing to improve our midfield?

[basehibby]

Vente epitomises everything that has been wrong with the club in terms of a cohesive strategy.

Started with good intentions in actually spending a lot of money to buy a promising player who can be sold for a profit.

Comes and looks good but then played out of position and/or playing with poor support from midfield etc. Gets pelters and dismissed as being a poor signing.

Goes home to a decent team and does what he did previously.

Id love to see him come back and see if he could score goals with the new management and set up.

If I was him though there is no way I’d risk my career by coming back to hibs. He’s in his own countries top flight scoring goals and could stay at his current team or get a move to a bigger team.

There’s no point splashing the cash on a striker if the midfield and defence is poor. Would be better with 3/4 good quality signings at £250-£300k to actual add a bit of quality in each area rather than one expensive striker.

Hopefully we get a couple of million for him which shouldn’t be unrealistic.

Agree with much of your post - Vente lost his way at Hibs and seemed to have lost his confidence. The loan back to his home league has done him good though and it looks like he's got his mojo back.
I think you're overplaying his value if only a year left on his contract though. I'd be happy if we took a million for him in the summer.

[CallumHibs07]

Montgomery ruined him. Probably wants to stay in Netherlands now

[JimBHibees]

Montgomery ruined him. Probably wants to stay in Netherlands now

Ruined him really

[500miles]

Montgomery ruined him. Probably wants to stay in Netherlands now

A 23 year old that is blowing out his backside after 60 minutes every week creates his own problems.

[Since452]

Ruined him really

Had him dropping back so deep he was basically in midfield. He's scoring goals at a higher level than us so what did Montgomery do wrong?

[theonlywayisup]

Vente epitomises everything that has been wrong with the club in terms of a cohesive strategy.

Started with good intentions in actually spending a lot of money to buy a promising player who can be sold for a profit.

Comes and looks good but then played out of position and/or playing with poor support from midfield etc. Gets pelters and dismissed as being a poor signing.

Goes home to a decent team and does what he did previously.

Id love to see him come back and see if he could score goals with the new management and set up.

If I was him though there is no way I’d risk my career by coming back to hibs. He’s in his own countries top flight scoring goals and could stay at his current team or get a move to a bigger team.

There’s no point splashing the cash on a striker if the midfield and defence is poor. Would be better with 3/4 good quality signings at £250-£300k to actual add a bit of quality in each area rather than one expensive striker.

Hopefully we get a couple of million for him which shouldn’t be unrealistic.

That's my take on it too.

First few games, I thought he looked a quality goalscorer taking his goals well.

But then felt he suffered in a team struggling to make decent chances. IMO he's not the type of striker that will create his own chances nor play with his back to goal. He needs to be running onto the ball in the box.

That said, my comment that he is a quality striker is fully undermined by misses like the one at the start of the season against St Mirren.

Happy for him to see him doing well, but don't think he'll return to Hibs.

[theonlywayisup]

Rumoured in - Alassana Manneh from Odense surely should be top of the list

Any news on this guy? Highlights reel looks good with echos of Scotty Allan style through balls. Ex Barca kid - could this be the long awaited signing to improve our midfield?

If true, I think you're right regarding the Scott Allan comment. The boy looks like a quality find and is just what we need in midfield.

[GreenCastle]

Vente can definitely score goals at a good level but it was obvious his confidence and role within the team made him struggle - what we don’t know is how he settled into life in Scotland too..family etc ??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MToDR18Nr90&pp=ygULZHlsYW4gdmVudGU%3D

21 goals and 6 assists in 38 games
23 goals and 6 assists 38 games

As we know YouTube can paint a different picture but some of his goals here are quality and I’m sure if he had better service from Cadden etc he would score more here.

[Jones28]

How often is it that a more senior player has a loan away from a club and comes back to be a success?

As much as I'd like Vente to come back and be fit and raring to go, if we can make money on him and everyones happy then better to shake hands and part ways.

[Since452]

We don't know what's been discussed with Vente privately. Wouldn't surprise me if he knows and we know that he isn't coming back. Like others have said would he really want to come back? He's scoring goals in the Eredivisie, his own back garden. Seems to be enjoying his football. I'd like to see him given another shot here but think that ship has sailed.

[flash]

I would be amazed if we recall him.

The best case scenario for everyone concerned is he has a good season at Zwolle and either stays there or signs for another Dutch club.

[Allant1981]

A 23 year old that is blowing out his backside after 60 minutes every week creates his own problems.

Yet manages a lot more game time for his new team than when here

[Springbank]

In the opening game of this season, in Paisley, any scout or neutral observer would have said:

"Olusanya - St Mirren - a constant handful - created danger from starting positions all over the pitch - fast on the counter attack, and physical when needed in the box"

"Dylan Vente - Hibs - contributed little outside the box, minimal physical presence, missed an open goal inside the six yard box that would have opened the scoring, then fizzled out. Anonymous"

[Paulie Walnuts]

In the opening game of this season, in Paisley, any scout or neutral observer would have said:

"Olusanya - St Mirren - a constant handful - created danger from starting positions all over the pitch - fast on the counter attack, and physical when needed in the box"

"Dylan Vente - Hibs - contributed little outside the box, minimal physical presence, missed an open goal inside the six yard box that would have opened the scoring, then fizzled out. Anonymous"

And now they would say based on the whole season

“Toyosi Olusanya - St Mirren - 27 years old - scored 11 in 29 for St Mirren. Having a good season, but it’s the first good season of his career.

“Dylan Vente - FC Zwolle - 25 years old - scored 7 in 19 for a struggling side with a goal in a victory against league leaders PSV. Also has 1 goal in 1 cup appearance in Netherlands. This follows on from 3 in 6 for Hibs this season prior to signing for FC Zwolle.”

[Dmas]

No way he’s coming back, SDG has brought in 3 strikers all 3 are about to be fit at the same time as well as Boyle finding form now in a system that won’t allow him playing out on the right far more critical we get a couple of midfield players in so we don’t need to rely on kwon and NMW imo

[04Sauzee]

From the Daily record


Alasana Manneh to Hibs latest
Hibs target Alasana Manneh has reportedly "said goodbye" to his OB teammates.

Easter Road chiefs are closing-in on the Gambian international midfielder. Manneh is out of contract with the Danish Sugerliga outfit in the summer, but Hibs are trying to secure a cash deal before the close of this window. The 26-year-old has been in Odense for two-and-a-half years after signing from Polish outfit Gornik Zabrze. He had been a regular for OB during the campaign - before not featuring in each of the club’s two previous games against Sonderjyske and AGF.

Fysens now report the deal has taken it's next step.

[Greenbeard]

BBC Gossip reporting the Sun as saying that Stuart Armstrong could return on a free to Sheffield Wed despite having a year left on his contract at Vancouver. That's the sort of deal we should be splashing the wage bill on, not unproven players with potential and a good You Tube reel.

[CapitalGreen]

BBC Gossip reporting the Sun as saying that Stuart Armstrong could return on a free to Sheffield Wed despite having a year left on his contract at Vancouver. That's the sort of deal we should be splashing the wage bill on, not unproven players with potential and a good You Tube reel.

When you say “splashing the wage bill” what do you mean?

Considering Armstrong is currently getting £2.3m per year (£45k pw) in wages that is quite a lot of our wage bill splashed on someone about to turn 33 who can’t get a regular start in MLS.

[04Sauzee]

BBC Gossip reporting the Sun as saying that Stuart Armstrong could return on a free to Sheffield Wed despite having a year left on his contract at Vancouver. That's the sort of deal we should be splashing the wage bill on, not unproven players with potential and a good You Tube reel.

For a club that's a financial mess I doubt Hibs could match Wednesday's wages.

Armstrong great player, 33 in march though and not sure why he only played 9 games over there? Was that all the games available after he signed ?

[500miles]

Yet manages a lot more game time for his new team than when here

It's a less physically demanding league. I don't think Vente is equipped for this league. Gauld spoke about this recently as well.

[number9dream]

For a club that's a financial mess I doubt Hibs could match Wednesday's wages.

Armstrong great player, 33 in march though and not sure why he only played 9 games over there? Was that all the games available after he signed ?

Armstrong played 11 games for VW, six from the bench, started the last four and season ended with the odd best-of-three MLS Cup loss to LAFC in early November. He would need to get up to speed again if coming back to UK, although will be training now for start of next MLS season, which begins 22 Feb.
Vancouver is an amazing place. I wouldn't be in a hurry to leave for Sheffield...

[greenlex]

Yet manages a lot more game time for his new team than when here

If you’re asking a sprinter to run a marathon it’s gonna happen.

[matty_f]

And now they would say based on the whole season

“Toyosi Olusanya - St Mirren - 27 years old - scored 11 in 29 for St Mirren. Having a good season, but it’s the first good season of his career.

“Dylan Vente - FC Zwolle - 25 years old - scored 7 in 19 for a struggling side with a goal in a victory against league leaders PSV. Also has 1 goal in 1 cup appearance in Netherlands. This follows on from 3 in 6 for Hibs this season prior to signing for FC Zwolle.”
I know what you’re driving at the “struggling side” aspect but I think a lot of the time it overlooks the fact that teams struggle because the players (including the one in focus) are part of it.

There are obviously exceptions where a player is head and shoulders above the team they’re in, but it’s worth at least asking the question as to whether Vente was poor in a struggling Hibs side and then a bit better in a struggling Dutch side, or whether his performances actually contribute to the fact that these teams are struggling with him in them.

[Wilson]

I know what you’re driving at the “struggling side” aspect but I think a lot of the time it overlooks the fact that teams struggle because the players (including the one in focus) are part of it.

There are obviously exceptions where a player is head and shoulders above the team they’re in, but it’s worth at least asking the question as to whether Vente was poor in a struggling Hibs side and then a bit better in a struggling Dutch side, or whether his performances actually contribute to the fact that these teams are struggling with him in them.

Or whether the way the manager is using a player or players is why we are struggling. In which case, don't write off a player that scored in European competition for one manager, simply because the next manager was clueless.

[matty_f]

Or whether the way the manager is using a player or players is why we are struggling. In which case, don't write off a player that scored in European competition for one manager, simply because the next manager was clueless.

Vente was here under Johnson, Monty and Gray, I think. Johnson arguably got the most out of him but even then although he scored 5 goals from 5 chances in those games, it should be a concern that he only had 5 chances across those games as well, that’s a poor return for a striker.

[Greenbeard]

When you say “splashing the wage bill” what do you mean?

Considering Armstrong is currently getting £2.3m per year (£45k pw) in wages that is quite a lot of our wage bill splashed on someone about to turn 33 who can’t get a regular start in MLS.
Ah, point taken. Didn't think he or others like him at the tail end of their careers would command that sort of dosh. Had imagined that if we got him on a free then "investing" the sort of fee we might have had to pay for him into his wages might add up to an attractive offer but that still ain't gonna be competitive in the market if that's what we'd need to pay the likes of him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know what you’re driving at the “struggling side” aspect but I think a lot of the time it overlooks the fact that teams struggle because the players (including the one in focus) are part of it.

There are obviously exceptions where a player is head and shoulders above the team they’re in, but it’s worth at least asking the question as to whether Vente was poor in a struggling Hibs side and then a bit better in a struggling Dutch side, or whether his performances actually contribute to the fact that these teams are struggling with him in them.

That’s a fair point, however I’d suggest that if you’re the teams top scorer with a very respectable amount of goals then whilst you’re of course part of the struggling side you’re almost certainly not going to be one of the main reasons for it.

[superfurryhibby]

When you say “splashing the wage bill” what do you mean?

Considering Armstrong is currently getting £2.3m per year (£45k pw) in wages that is quite a lot of our wage bill splashed on someone about to turn 33 who can’t get a regular start in MLS.

Dollars not pounds though.

I find it incredible that MLS can pay such high wages. How accurate is the information on salaries?

"In 2024, Inter Miami had the highest average player salary in Major League Soccer (MLS) at nearly 1.2 million U.S. dollars per year. At the other end of the scale, the average player at Real Salt Lake earned just over 358,000 U.S. dollars per year. Major League Soccer is the highest division of professional soccer in the United States".

https://www.statista.com/statistics/551765/average-player-salary-in-mls-by-team/

[Winston Ingram]

A 23 year old that is blowing out his backside after 60 minutes every week creates his own problems.

He’s started 18 league games and played the full 90 in 12 of them

[Unseen work]

Got to say, Vente has the most excuses I’ve ever seen for a player not delivering for us.

Change of league, not a proper pre season, struggling for fitness, lack of service, not his proper position.

Imo ALF would be on the pitch for 10 minutes, playing the same role as Vente, and contribute far more to the game and get a chance.

So many games he contributed nothing and struggled to get involved in the play

Vente started this season well with a hat trick and looked like he had turned the corner but it was short lived.

In fairness to him, I think playing up top with another striker and having Campbell behind him and the Caddens on either wing crossing it early would make a difference

[04Sauzee]

Does Odense have an Airport? Do they do direct flights to Edinburgh? What time is Alasana Manneh going to arrive in Edinburgh 😁

[Winston Ingram]

Dollars not pounds though.

I find it incredible that MLS can pay such high wages. How accurate is the information on salaries?

"In 2024, Inter Miami had the highest average player salary in Major League Soccer (MLS) at nearly 1.2 million U.S. dollars per year. At the other end of the scale, the average player at Real Salt Lake earned just over 358,000 U.S. dollars per year. Major League Soccer is the highest division of professional soccer in the United States".

https://www.statista.com/statistics/551765/average-player-salary-in-mls-by-team/

They signed a mega money deal for the Worldwide TV rights with Apple TV. To add to that, each team is allowed 3 designated players which they can pretty much pay players as much as they want. Armstrong and Gauld are 2 of their 3z

[Winston Ingram]

Got to say, Vente has the most excuses I’ve ever seen for a player not delivering for us.

Change of league, not a proper pre season, struggling for fitness, lack of service, not his proper position.

Imo ALF would be on the pitch for 10 minutes, playing the same role as Vente, and contribute far more to the game and get a chance.

So many games he contributed nothing and struggled to get involved in the play

Vente started this season well with a hat trick and looked like he had turned the corner but it was short lived.

In fairness to him, I think playing up top with another striker and having Campbell behind him and the Caddens on either wing crossing it early would make a difference

He’s playing up front on his own in Holland. The only reason I can see that he failed last year was cos Monty changed his role which resulted in him never being in the box.

His confidence was shot after that and it’s great to see it back.

[CapitalGreen]

Dollars not pounds though.

I find it incredible that MLS can pay such high wages. How accurate is the information on salaries?

"In 2024, Inter Miami had the highest average player salary in Major League Soccer (MLS) at nearly 1.2 million U.S. dollars per year. At the other end of the scale, the average player at Real Salt Lake earned just over 358,000 U.S. dollars per year. Major League Soccer is the highest division of professional soccer in the United States".

https://www.statista.com/statistics/551765/average-player-salary-in-mls-by-team/

The amounts I have stated are in pounds hence the use of the £ symbol.

His salary in dollars is $2.9m.

MLS salaries are public information due to the salary cap regulations in the league and are published here - https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide

[Prof. Shaggy]

Does Odense have an Airport? Do they do direct flights to Edinburgh? What time is Alasana Manneh going to arrive in Edinburgh 😁

Probably easiest to fly from Copenhagen.

[easty]

Vente was here under Johnson, Monty and Gray, I think. Johnson arguably got the most out of him but even then although he scored 5 goals from 5 chances in those games, it should be a concern that he only had 5 chances across those games as well, that’s a poor return for a striker.

I don't think 1 chance per game is a big concern, especially over a 5 game sample size.

This season in the league Simon Murray, Kevin Nisbet, Boyle, Youan, Olusanya, Kimpioka all average under 1 shot on target per 90 mins.

My opinion at the time was that Vente was struggling because of how we were being set up and managed, especially under Monty. Just based on the fact he scored so regularly the 2 seasons before he signed for Hibs.

[Unseen work]

He’s playing up front on his own in Holland. The only reason I can see that he failed last year was cos Monty changed his role which resulted in him never being in the box.

His confidence was shot after that and it’s great to see it back.

I just don’t buy into it was all Montys fault.

He went on a goalscoring run when Monty first arrived?

There were plenty occasion’s he had a good chance or a cross went in the box, he was in the box but just couldn’t get free or find the space

He then had Maolida/Youan/Boyle out wide and marcondes behind him and he still struggled

Again I compare it to ALF, whenever he came on I thought he was much more of a threat than Vente

I’m delighted he seems to be doing well now and would love for him to come back and prove me wrong, I just can’t see it personally

[superfurryhibby]

The amounts I have stated are in pounds hence the use of the £ symbol.

His salary in dollars is $2.9m.

MLS salaries are public information due to the salary cap regulations in the league and are published here - https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide

It says his basic wage is "Stuart Armstrong Vancouver Whitecaps Central Midfield $2,499,996.00 Guaranteed compensation level $2,877,774.00. Just under 2 million pounds.

Winston has explained the tv deal they have, so the league obviously has a fair bit of cash sloshing around. Not sure what the guaranteed compensation level means, but assumed it was in event of a transfer deal?

It's safe to say Armstrong won't be coming to HIbs anytime soon.

[tonyrougier123]

Vente wasn’t good enough over a sustained amount of football for hibs, maybe it was shape maybe he didn’t like the physical aspect of the game in Scotland. The bottom line is Vente didn’t lead the line well for us and as unseen work said Alf outshone him in his time on the park, linking better and generally getting stuck in.
Great he’s scoring goals but maybe he’s playing in his comfort zone, we need to reinvest in a big striker with presence pace and one that’s able to lead the line up front.

[Saint Hibee]

Does Odense have an Airport? Do they do direct flights to Edinburgh? What time is Alasana Manneh going to arrive in Edinburgh 😁

Manneh from Heaven!

[Springbank]

And now they would say based on the whole season

“Toyosi Olusanya - St Mirren - 27 years old - scored 11 in 29 for St Mirren. Having a good season, but it’s the first good season of his career.

“Dylan Vente - FC Zwolle - 25 years old - scored 7 in 19 for a struggling side with a goal in a victory against league leaders PSV. Also has 1 goal in 1 cup appearance in Netherlands. This follows on from 3 in 6 for Hibs this season prior to signing for FC Zwolle.”

I don't disagree with that btw, it's a fair & balanced summary

I think in our teams shape the demands of the 9 are more like Bowie & Olusanya than Vente and if we were to sell Dylan, sign olusanya and turn a chunky profit that would be pretty good business & a decent sporting decision (and we don't always get to say that)

[04Sauzee]

I'm the Manneh for Hibs

Hibs have agreed a fee with Odense and personal terms with Alasana Manneh.

The Easter Road club has now applied for a work permit and visa for the Ghana international. If they are successful then Manneh will become David Gray’s first signing of the transfer window.

Record Sport broke the story last week that the midfielder was Hibs’ top target.

Odense had been reluctant to sell but decided to accept a fee now rather than lose the 26-year-old for nothing in the summer. Manneh has been a standout for the Danish team and many expected him to leave as soon as they were relegated but he decided to stay put.

The midfielder who came through the Aspire Academy and then went to Barcelona, moved to Odense in 2022 from Goring Zabrze. Manneh has already said goodbye to his Odense teammates and is now waiting for the green light to travel to Scotland.

[Winston Ingram]

I just don’t buy into it was all Montys fault.

He went on a goalscoring run when Monty first arrived?

There were plenty occasion’s he had a good chance or a cross went in the box, he was in the box but just couldn’t get free or find the space

He then had Maolida/Youan/Boyle out wide and marcondes behind him and he still struggled

Again I compare it to ALF, whenever he came on I thought he was much more of a threat than Vente

I’m delighted he seems to be doing well now and would love for him to come back and prove me wrong, I just can’t see it personally

He only started 5 games after Marcondes arrived and 2 of them were v the Old Firm. He scored once in those 5 games v Dundee

[SaulGoodman]

Flight from Copenhagen due in at 17.55.

I predict signing announcement with photo by 20.30 or I’ll be bitterly disappointed.

[Up-the-slope]

Got to say, Vente has the most excuses I’ve ever seen for a player not delivering for us.

Change of league, not a proper pre season, struggling for fitness, lack of service, not his proper position.

Imo ALF would be on the pitch for 10 minutes, playing the same role as Vente, and contribute far more to the game and get a chance.

So many games he contributed nothing and struggled to get involved in the play

Vente started this season well with a hat trick and looked like he had turned the corner but it was short lived.

In fairness to him, I think playing up top with another striker and having Campbell behind him and the Caddens on either wing crossing it early would make a difference

Nail on head... but would also be true for a number of strikers. there are very few like Lydon Dykes who can play up on their own with zero other players near them and occupy CH's and hold the ball with back to goal. Vente's skill seemed to be arriving in the box for driven crosses
- something he rarely got. He does seem to get more of that in his loan team. Gayles not going to manage to contribute enough for another season ongoing and Miko is a loan (if they even do this season) so lots of decisions to make

[CapitalGreen]

Flight from Copenhagen due in at 17.55.

I predict signing announcement with photo by 20.30 or I’ll be bitterly disappointed.

If the report in the DR is correct it’s likely he is already here.

[04Sauzee]

Flight from Copenhagen due in at 17.55.

I predict signing announcement with photo by 20.30 or I’ll be bitterly disappointed.

This is what I was looking for 😀

[JimBHibees]

He’s playing up front on his own in Holland. The only reason I can see that he failed last year was cos Monty changed his role which resulted in him never being in the box.

His confidence was shot after that and it’s great to see it back.

He was in the box loads of times just that the delivery into the box was poor as was his movement to get on the end of anything. He was slow lacked physicality and was knackered just after half time.

[Bridge hibs]

This is what I was looking for 😀

Wonder if the pen has come out of hibernation 🤗

[badabing67]

If the report in the DR is correct it’s likely he is already here.

This.... The medical must be complete if we are agreeing to pay the fee

[Chorley Hibee]

When Vente first signed, he gave an interview in which he stated that he liked to play on the shoulder of the last defender and he thrived on balls played through for him to run on to.

I said then that this was a big worry as we lacked players capable of creating those very opportunities.

For me, he's another signing that was made without any thought as to how he actually fitted into the side.

[Hibernian2105]

.

[04Sauzee]

This.... The medical must be complete if we are agreeing to pay the fee

Not so sure , you can agree a fee and then talk to him. I don't know all the ins and outs but sure you can agree a fee and still not sign him?

[GloryGlory]

I'm the Manneh for Hibs

Hibs have agreed a fee with Odense and personal terms with Alasana Manneh.

The Easter Road club has now applied for a work permit and visa for the Ghana international. If they are successful then Manneh will become David Gray’s first signing of the transfer window.

Record Sport broke the story last week that the midfielder was Hibs’ top target.

Odense had been reluctant to sell but decided to accept a fee now rather than lose the 26-year-old for nothing in the summer. Manneh has been a standout for the Danish team and many expected him to leave as soon as they were relegated but he decided to stay put.

The midfielder who came through the Aspire Academy and then went to Barcelona, moved to Odense in 2022 from Goring Zabrze. Manneh has already said goodbye to his Odense teammates and is now waiting for the green light to travel to Scotland.

Hopefully he is a great success and we can all say "Manneh's the mickle that maks a muckle!" :take that

[Libby Hibby]

[emoji1179][emoji2397]
[emoji1255][emoji112]

Myko away?

[Unseen work]

He only started 5 games after Marcondes arrived and 2 of them were v the Old Firm. He scored once in those 5 games v Dundee

With all due respect, I don’t think that’s right.

From the end of January when Marcondes and Maolida joined he started against

Rangers
Killie
Celtic
Dundee - Scored from penalty
Hearts
Ross County
Ross County
Aberdeen
Motherwell
Livingston

During that time he still came off the bench on quite a few occaisions and scored on one of them against St Johnstone

I also don’t buy the he played against Celtic and rangers like that shouldn’t count. We need players who show up especially in these games and pop up in the big moments

[Unseen work]

Myko away?

Vente recalled and Myk away?

[superfurryhibby]

Vente recalled and Myk away?

That would strengthen the squad. Myko has been pretty disappointing, even allowing for his injury. Vente has a lot to prove in our league but is clearly capable of playing at a higher level, judging by his stats from the Eredivision this season.

[easty]

I just don’t buy into it was all Montys fault.

He went on a goalscoring run when Monty first arrived?

There were plenty occasion’s he had a good chance or a cross went in the box, he was in the box but just couldn’t get free or find the space

He then had Maolida/Youan/Boyle out wide and marcondes behind him and he still struggled

Again I compare it to ALF, whenever he came on I thought he was much more of a threat than Vente

I’m delighted he seems to be doing well now and would love for him to come back and prove me wrong, I just can’t see it personally

Records at Hibs

Vente - mins per goal - 257
ALF - mins per goal - 261

Vente - mins per assist - 565
ALF - mins per assist - 654

Vente - points per game - 1.44
ALF - points per game - 1.37


ALF for some reason got an easy ride. Vente got slaughtered on the regular.

[flash]

Vente recalled and Myk away?

Myko has been disappointing.

Can't help but wonder if all the horrific stuff happening back home is affecting Ukrainian players.

Mudryk and Zinchenko both seem to be really struggling too and it wouldn't be a shock if their heart simply isn't in it for a game of football these days.

Could be totally wrong but worth considering.

[badabing67]

Vente recalled and Myk away?

This is coming from a new Hibs.Net account ..... Not sure about this.... Think it is unlikely

[JimBHibees]

I'm the Manneh for Hibs

Hibs have agreed a fee with Odense and personal terms with Alasana Manneh.

The Easter Road club has now applied for a work permit and visa for the Ghana international. If they are successful then Manneh will become David Gray’s first signing of the transfer window.

Record Sport broke the story last week that the midfielder was Hibs’ top target.

Odense had been reluctant to sell but decided to accept a fee now rather than lose the 26-year-old for nothing in the summer. Manneh has been a standout for the Danish team and many expected him to leave as soon as they were relegated but he decided to stay put.

The midfielder who came through the Aspire Academy and then went to Barcelona, moved to Odense in 2022 from Goring Zabrze. Manneh has already said goodbye to his Odense teammates and is now waiting for the green light to travel to Scotland.

Wonder how long visa will take to get through hopefully fact he has played in Europe for a while helps

[JimBHibees]

Myko has been disappointing.

Can't help but wonder if all the horrific stuff happening back home is affecting Ukrainian players.

Mudryk and Zinchenko both seem to be really struggling too and it wouldn't be a shock if their heart simply isn't in it for a game of football these days.

Could be totally wrong but worth considering.

Surprised if it didn’t have some impact

[04Sauzee]

🔴⚪️Kallithea make loan move for Aberdeen defender James McGarry. Greek sources believe the deal will be finalised for the New Zealand international over the coming days.🔴⚪️

[Unseen work]

Records at Hibs

Vente - mins per goal - 257
ALF - mins per goal - 261

Vente - mins per assist - 565
ALF - mins per assist - 654

Vente - points per game - 1.44
ALF - points per game - 1.37


ALF for some reason got an easy ride. Vente got slaughtered on the regular.

ALF was a 36/37 year old free agent when we signed him

Vente was a 24 year old who we signed for 500-700k

The difference of 4 minutes per goal?

I just always felt we looked far better with ALF playing and more likely to score

[theonlywayisup]

I'm the Manneh for Hibs

Hibs have agreed a fee with Odense and personal terms with Alasana Manneh.

The Easter Road club has now applied for a work permit and visa for the Ghana international. If they are successful then Manneh will become David Gray’s first signing of the transfer window.

Record Sport broke the story last week that the midfielder was Hibs’ top target.

Odense had been reluctant to sell but decided to accept a fee now rather than lose the 26-year-old for nothing in the summer. Manneh has been a standout for the Danish team and many expected him to leave as soon as they were relegated but he decided to stay put.

The midfielder who came through the Aspire Academy and then went to Barcelona, moved to Odense in 2022 from Goring Zabrze. Manneh has already said goodbye to his Odense teammates and is now waiting for the green light to travel to Scotland.

"We've got Alasana, Manneh, Manneh" to the "We've got Salah, ah Mane, Mane" Liverpool tune.

[JimBHibees]

ALF was a 36/37 year old free agent when we signed him

Vente was a 24 year old who we signed for 500-700k

The difference of 4 minutes per goal?

I just always felt we looked far better with ALF playing and more likely to score

Agree alsways thought he was more of a threat and for a small guy was competitive physically. His all round play better also

[SaulGoodman]

If Hibs don’t announce him to Shane McMahons theme song and say “Here comes the Manneh” I’m handing back my season ticket

https://youtu.be/HMuYfScGpbE?si=TFd28N6dG6p_HQHV

[MacGruber]

Myko has been disappointing.

Can't help but wonder if all the horrific stuff happening back home is affecting Ukrainian players.

Mudryk and Zinchenko both seem to be really struggling too and it wouldn't be a shock if their heart simply isn't in it for a game of football these days.

Could be totally wrong but worth considering.

Interesting point - it could well be having an impact

[USA_Hibee]

If Hibs don’t announce him to Shane McMahons theme song and say “Here comes the Manneh” I’m handing back my season ticket

https://youtu.be/HMuYfScGpbE?si=TFd28N6dG6p_HQHV
10/10

[badabing67]

If Hibs don’t announce him to Shane McMahons theme song and say “Here comes the Manneh” I’m handing back my season ticket

https://youtu.be/HMuYfScGpbE?si=TFd28N6dG6p_HQHV


If this happens I can only conclude that you are in with the bricks

[TrinityHFC]

That would strengthen the squad. Myko has been pretty disappointing, even allowing for his injury. Vente has a lot to prove in our league but is clearly capable of playing at a higher level, judging by his stats from the Eredivision this season.

No it wouldn’t really. Myko will contribute and is a completely different option from Vente. We’ve got Gayle and now Bowie too. Vente wouldn’t improve us. He was a big part of us having a disappointing start by missing chances every week.

[Alex Trager]

If Hibs don’t announce him to Shane McMahons theme song and say “Here comes the Manneh” I’m handing back my season ticket

https://youtu.be/HMuYfScGpbE?si=TFd28N6dG6p_HQHV

This is now a must.

[Hibernian2105]

Unfortunately a guy a know who usually spot on was taking the piss and av been done a kipper[emoji2357][emoji2357][emoji2357]
Apologies folks red puss

[CapitalGreen]

No it wouldn’t really. Myko will contribute and is a completely different option from Vente. We’ve got Gayle and now Bowie too. Vente wouldn’t improve us. He was a big part of us having a disappointing start by missing chances every week.

Every week? A big part of our poor start? He started one game and came off the bench for 15 minutes against Celtic for a grand total of 88 minutes of league football.

[Lago]

Wonder if the pen has come out of hibernation 🤗
The ink will have dried out by now ✒️

[04Sauzee]

Celtic announce Jota

✨✍️ #JotaAnnounced! #CelticFC is delighted to announce the signing of Jota from Stade Rennais FC - subject to international clearance ✍

Welcome home, Jota! 🇵🇹🍀

#Jota2030 | CelticFC🍀

[easty]

ALF was a 36/37 year old free agent when we signed him

Vente was a 24 year old who we signed for 500-700k

The difference of 4 minutes per goal?

I just always felt we looked far better with ALF playing and more likely to score

Does an older player who came in as a free not have to do as much as a younger player who cost money? I'm comparing them on what they did, not who they were.



Agree alsways thought he was more of a threat and for a small guy was competitive physically. His all round play better also

If he was more of a threat then why did he contribute less in terms of goals and assists, and why did we pick up less points when he played?

[Since452]

Flight from Copenhagen due in at 17.55.

I predict signing announcement with photo by 20.30 or I’ll be bitterly disappointed.

We'll probably be waiting a few weeks for his work permit to be approved. He'll be ready to go for the top six fixtures 😉

[SaulGoodman]

If this happens I can only conclude that you are in with the bricks

Can I interest you in a match worn shirt or perhaps a hospitality package?

[Since452]

Records at Hibs

Vente - mins per goal - 257
ALF - mins per goal - 261

Vente - mins per assist - 565
ALF - mins per assist - 654

Vente - points per game - 1.44
ALF - points per game - 1.37


ALF for some reason got an easy ride. Vente got slaughtered on the regular.

There was probably less expectation on ALF. I thought he was ok but if you compare him to the likes of Gayle he's levels below. I didn't like how mouthy he was when he left either. Not a guy I took to.

[BILLYHIBS]

Celtic announce Jota

✨✍️ #JotaAnnounced! #CelticFC is delighted to announce the signing of Jota from Stade Rennais FC - subject to international clearance ✍

Welcome home, Jota! 🇵🇹🍀

#Jota2030 | CelticFC🍀

Another pest for us to deal with no thanks

Reading online that Kyogo has failed his fitness test not sure if true or not they might have to go with both

[tamig]

Does an older player who came in as a free not have to do as much as a younger player who cost money? I'm comparing them on what they did, not who they were.




If he was more of a threat then why did he contribute less in terms of goals and assists, and why did we pick up less points when he played?

ALF was a very intelligent player. Although not the tallest, he used his body really well and always gave the opposition defence a lot of trouble. Goals and assists aren’t the only metrics to compare performance. Far more to it than that. And I thought we always looked more threatening with ALF in the team.

[Joe6-2]

Can I interest you in a match worn shirt or perhaps a hospitality package?

😂

[Cocaine&Caviar]

On Menneh,

Curious to see who he's coming in to replace. Looks to be a left footed, ''deep lying playmaker'' style CM - without wanting to sound too FM-esque.

Is he to replace Newell and partner Triantis?

Is it building for next season?

Will he be looked at as a 10 to replace Campbell?

Is it a squad upgrade on Amos, NMW, & Kwon?

Typically i'd say Newell's place in the XI is pretty nailed on when fit, and he doesnt look a natural 10, or a natural partner for Newell.

[SteveHFC]

Another pest for us to deal with no thanks

Reading online that Kyogo has failed his fitness test not sure if true or not they might have to go with both

That’s Rennes confirmed Kyogo.

[flash]

Another pest for us to deal with no thanks

Reading online that Kyogo has failed his fitness test not sure if true or not they might have to go with both

Kyogo deal is done.

[TrinityHFC]

Another pest for us to deal with no thanks

Reading online that Kyogo has failed his fitness test not sure if true or not they might have to go with both

You don’t fail or pass medicals. They just provide information for the signing team to make some judgments on.

[JimBHibees]

That’s Rennes confirmed Kyogo.

Quite a strange move

[04Sauzee]

January 2025 Transfer Window
New Arrivals (inc Loans)
As at 27/01

Motherwell 5
Aberdeen 4
Dundee 4
Hearts 4
Ross County 4
St.Johnstone 4
Dundee Utd 2
St.Mirren 2
Celtic 1
Kilmarnock 1
Rangers 1
Hibs 0

Window closes 23:00 on Monday Feb 3rd 2025

Source; @Nareystoepoker

nareystoepoker.blogspot.com/p/all-spfl-tra

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Quite a strange move

Just turned 30, wants to test himself at a higher level, and knows he wont get any international game time whilst playing in Scotland.

[JimBHibees]

Does an older player who came in as a free not have to do as much as a younger player who cost money? I'm comparing them on what they did, not who they were.




If he was more of a threat then why did he contribute less in terms of goals and assists, and why did we pick up less points when he played?

I just said we looked more of a threat not that we actually were. :greengrin While some stats are a reasonable indicator not all are. Ventes stats post 5 goal start must be absolutely abysmal

[Smartie]

On Menneh,

Curious to see who he's coming in to replace. Looks to be a left footed, ''deep lying playmaker'' style CM - without wanting to sound too FM-esque.

Is he to replace Newell and partner Triantis?

Is it building for next season?

Will he be looked at as a 10 to replace Campbell?

Is it a squad upgrade on Amos, NMW, & Kwon?

Typically i'd say Newell's place in the XI is pretty nailed on when fit, and he doesnt look a natural 10, or a natural partner for Newell.

I find it a bit weird that we appointed Newell as captain and extended his contract... then immediately tried to push the boat out for McCowan and now our first priority seems again to be a replacement for Newell.

Not totally against the idea and tbh since we hit our decent run of form it's hard to spot which position from our first choice XI needs strengthening the most, and we definitely need better depth in midfield.

I just find it a bit odd.

[JimBHibees]

Just turned 30, wants to test himself at a higher level, and knows he wont get any international game time whilst playing in Scotland.

Fair enough find him moving mid season a little strange

[flash]

Fair enough find him moving mid season a little strange

Just as well. Imagine facing Jota, Kyogo and Kuhn.

[EGL2000]

Celtic announce Jota

✨✍️ #JotaAnnounced! #CelticFC is delighted to announce the signing of Jota from Stade Rennais FC - subject to international clearance ✍

Welcome home, Jota! 🇵🇹🍀

#Jota2030 | CelticFC🍀

That's a great signing annoyingly. I would say he's one of the best natural ability players I've seen playing in Scotland in many years, scored some corkers last time around.

[TrinityHFC]

I find it a bit weird that we appointed Newell as captain and extended his contract... then immediately tried to push the boat out for McCowan and now our first priority seems again to be a replacement for Newell.

Not totally against the idea and tbh since we hit our decent run of form it's hard to spot which position from our first choice XI needs strengthening the most, and we definitely need better depth in midfield.

I just find it a bit odd.

Depth. We rarely have everyone available and we need to have different types of players for different situations. We are currently playing Levitt and Campbell and I’m sure both can be improved on. We also won’t have Triantis next year. Gray has already said he can’t just look at this window in isolation.

[matty_f]

I just said we looked more of a threat not that we actually were. :greengrin While some stats are a reasonable indicator not all are. Ventes stats post 5 goal start must be absolutely abysmal

To test that, you could measure xG, total shots, or team goals for games involving ALF v Vente - the threat doesn’t have to be directly from the player compared.

[04Sauzee]

That's a great signing annoyingly. I would say he's one of the best natural ability players I've seen playing in Scotland in many years, scored some corkers last time around.

I'm hanging my hat on the fact that he's struggled since he left Celtic 😁

[matty_f]

I don't think 1 chance per game is a big concern, especially over a 5 game sample size.

This season in the league Simon Murray, Kevin Nisbet, Boyle, Youan, Olusanya, Kimpioka all average under 1 shot on target per 90 mins.

My opinion at the time was that Vente was struggling because of how we were being set up and managed, especially under Monty. Just based on the fact he scored so regularly the 2 seasons before he signed for Hibs.

None of those strikers are hitting the figures we need from a striker though, so it just tells me they’re also not great strikers.
Boyle 1.5 shots/game
Youan 2.1
Simon Murray 1.4
Kevin Nisbet 1.6
Kimpioka 1.2
Olusanya 1.8
(Source Sofascore)

Vente was 1.1 last season.

[GreenCastle]

That's a great signing annoyingly. I would say he's one of the best natural ability players I've seen playing in Scotland in many years, scored some corkers last time around.

Jota is a good signing ( been injured for last few weeks btw) - he hasn’t played 90 mins since May.

Kyogo will definitely be missed - he was a very good finisher and great movement - his stats were better than Jota too. Though Jota plays wide and Kyogo through middle. Annoyingly I reckon Hibs would have beaten Celtic in that cup final if it wasn’t for Kyogo and his ridiculous finishing.

You also wonder if this is the start of the end of the Kyogo - Maeda - Hatate at a Celtic - players Ange brought in. Been some excellent recruitment by them.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Signed 25 year old Jota and sold 30 year old Kyogo and made a profit. Very good business by them unfortunately.

[flash]

Signed 25 year old Jota and sold 30 year old Kyogo and made a profit. Very good business by them unfortunately.

They now have Jota, Kuhn and Maeda which is beyond unfair.

Imagine those three supplying a top class striker.

[Ribs1875]

Yay! Now returns that ****ty song 'Jota on the wing' by that YouTuber turned singer, who wears her auld man's 1980s gym gear.

[we are hibs]

Surprised Kyogo was on his feet long enough to sign a contract

Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk

[Alex Trager]

They now have Jota, Kuhn and Maeda which is beyond unfair.

Imagine those three supplying a top class striker.

Fortunately they’ve just sold a fairly top class striker.

[Ribs1875]

Meanwhile it looks like we are a step closer to signing this midfielder Alasana Menneh. Approx 180 senior career appearances, will be 27 in April. Hopefully he will be a step up to what we currently have.

[flash]

Fortunately they’ve just sold a fairly top class striker.

Indeed. Surely about to get somebody else in.

[Nicho87]

Surprised people are mooting it the potential signing as a replacement for Newell

I think Newell is as safe as all current midfielders to be here next season.

Levitt jury out, still
Amos, all but away
NMW, doesn’t seem to start under gray
Triantis, Sunderland may wish to sell him for a pretty penny.
Kwon, garbage

[BILLYHIBS]

Surprised Kyogo was on his feet long enough to sign a contract

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Was born offside

[Ribs1875]

Surprised people are mooting it the potential signing as a replacement for Newell

I think Newell is as safe as all current midfielders to be here next season.

Levitt jury out, still
Amos, all but away
NMW, doesn’t seem to start under gray
Triantis, Sunderland may wish to sell him for a pretty penny.
Kwon, garbage

That list would suggest we need to recruit. I'd like to see us sign Cameron lylle from Dundee, hopefully Rudi gets a chance, Menneh looks to be hibs bound. Newell I'd keep for anther season and then move him on.

[Nicho87]

Surprised people are mooting it the potential signing as a replacement for Newell

I think Newell is as safe as all current midfielders to be here next season.

Levitt jury out, still
Amos, all but away
NMW, doesn’t seem to start under gray
Triantis, Sunderland may wish to sell him for a pretty penny.
Kwon, garbage

[Bobby's Cinema]

I find it a bit weird that we appointed Newell as captain and extended his contract... then immediately tried to push the boat out for McCowan and now our first priority seems again to be a replacement for Newell.

Not totally against the idea and tbh since we hit our decent run of form it's hard to spot which position from our first choice XI needs strengthening the most, and we definitely need better depth in midfield.

I just find it a bit odd.
I'd say the task Gray had at that time looking around and appointing a captain was definitely 'unenviable'.

Once you looked and said, who has been here a while, likely to play most weeks and likely has a future beyond the end of the season, you'd have been left with a handful of which he'd have been one. Don't want to drag the thread down with my thoughts on JN though :duck:

[Bridge hibs]

Surprised people are mooting it the potential signing as a replacement for Newell

I think Newell is as safe as all current midfielders to be here next season.

Levitt jury out, still
Amos, all but away
NMW, doesn’t seem to start under gray
Triantis, Sunderland may wish to sell him for a pretty penny.
Kwon, garbageI would guess a replacement for Triantis and that hibs will know he is not staying beyond the season. If Amos and NMW are doubts to be first teamers and Kwon being not very good then the new guy will add hopefully a good bit of experience with Newell once fit, Triantis until he goes and Campbell. Could Levitt be chapping on the door ? My opinion is that he has had long enough and would be a good makeweight for a Scottish based player.

[Since90+2]

Just turned 30, wants to test himself at a higher level, and knows he wont get any international game time whilst playing in Scotland.

Maeda and Hatate seem to get game time for Japan whilst playing in Scotland.

Seems a bit odd if that's what he's claiming the reason is for him not getting picked, when he's literally got 2 players at the same club being played for the Japanese national team.

[WestStandWillie]

No talk of McKirdy being moved on is frustrating.

He's basically Jamie Insall but with a few more appearances on the bench.

[Since452]

Signed 25 year old Jota and sold 30 year old Kyogo and made a profit. Very good business by them unfortunately.

They are an immensely well run club unfortunately

[Ribs1875]

No talk of McKirdy being moved on is frustrating.

He's basically Jamie Insall but with a few more appearances on the bench.

He will be away at the end of the season. I feel bad for McKirdy that it never worked out. There was always an ongoing fitness issue with him after her signed, which down the line was due to his cardiac condition. I think the club aren't pushing him out the door, because he is basically finished after us.

[LaMotta]

Was born offside

Unfortunately onside twice in the 2021 League Cup Final. The difference between the teams that day.:boo hoo:

[Since452]

Unfortunately onside twice in the 2021 League Cup Final. The difference between the teams that day.:boo hoo:

Losing that goal seconds after scoring still boils my blood. I still think we'd have won that day if we hadn't.

[Bobby's Cinema]

He will be away at the end of the season. I feel bad for McKirdy that it never worked out. There was always an ongoing fitness issue with him after her signed, which down the line was due to his cardiac condition. I think the club aren't pushing him out the door, because he is basically finished after us.
I don't think that comes in to it as a reason for not moving him on, seems to me like the club have been really good with him treatment wise. Meanwhile we are paying wages. We all obviously wanted it to work but It's never even came close to looking like working out at any stage which so damning of our recruitment on this one.

[greenlex]

Any players we don’t want that are out of contract in the summer should be told they are being let go. Right now. Pay them up. 5/6 months wages contract terminated and thanks for your efforts. Last thing we need is them hanging around smegging the place up. We still need to pay them if they are here. Let’s get on with it. Get two or three in the door to beef up what we actually need. Let’s get on with it.

[ancient hibee]

Any players we don’t want that are out of contract in the summer should be told they are being let go. Right now. Pay them up. 5/6 months wages contract terminated and thanks for your efforts. Last thing we need is them hanging around smegging the place up. We still need to pay them if they are here. Let’s get on with it. Get two or three in the door to beef up what we actually need. Let’s get on with it.
So we pay 3 guys six months wages not to be here while paying another 3 guys wages to take their place. Don’t think so.

[percy veer]

Unfortunately onside twice in the 2021 League Cup Final. The difference between the teams that day.:boo hoo:


beaton and his gang made sure they won that day, quick free kicks and the most blatant pen we should have got all day. Paul mcginn at least had the balls to say it.

[Ribs1875]

I don't think that comes in to it as a reason for not moving him on, seems to me like the club have been really good with him treatment wise. Meanwhile we are paying wages. We all obviously wanted it to work but It's never even came close to looking like working out at any stage which so damning of our recruitment on this one.

All signings have their risk, we signed him on the back of a good goal scoring season. It's fair to say he is a risk that never paid off. Then a year onto his spell he is needing to go on the operating table to have open heart surgery. Having worked in that area of medicine, it is life changing post cardiac surgery. I'd rather the club show compassion, rather than treat someone badly following a health scare. Hopefully what ever money he has made gives him a happy and fulfilling future with many years of good health.

[BILLYHIBS]

Unfortunately onside twice in the 2021 League Cup Final. The difference between the teams that day.:boo hoo:

Looked offside from my vantage point 2000 yards away that or the defence fell asleep had them praying for the final whistle though opportunity lost

[04Sauzee]

If we were to sell Vente in the summer I'd hop we look at someone like Johnny Kenny at Celtic, he looks a real good talent.

[badabing67]

Can I interest you in a match worn shirt or perhaps a hospitality package?


Thought you would tell me to "trust the process"

[Ribs1875]

If we were to sell Vente in the summer I'd hop we look at someone like Johnny Kenny at Celtic, he looks a real good talent.

I was thinking that earlier on funnily enough. We did try sign him when Celtic did their usual and hijacked our bid. No way he's getting into their first team.

[BILLYHIBS]

I was thinking that earlier on funnily enough. We did try sign him when Celtic did their usual and hijacked our bid. No way he's getting into their first team.

Neither is Kwon

[badabing67]

On Menneh,

Curious to see who he's coming in to replace. Looks to be a left footed, ''deep lying playmaker'' style CM - without wanting to sound too FM-esque.

Is he to replace Newell and partner Triantis?

Is it building for next season?

Will he be looked at as a 10 to replace Campbell?

Is it a squad upgrade on Amos, NMW, & Kwon?

Typically i'd say Newell's place in the XI is pretty nailed on when fit, and he doesnt look a natural 10, or a natural partner for Newell.


Maybe just an addition to strengthen the squad but hopefully we won't see much more of Kwon