Winter transfer thread 2024/25

[Donegal Hibby]

You’ve seen other players make as many mistakes as Rocky? :confused:

Other than Bursik who’s been bombed out the team so would be a weird example to use I’m at a loss who those players could be.

He’s one alright though he’s not the only one.. mistakes are a funny thing in football as we all see them differently , like the penalty St Johnstone got which I thought was soft and happy to give Rocky a bit of leeway on it but you thought on it as a mistake and yet I thought the one we got against Sevco was more a penalty than the St Johnstone one but you didn’t think that one was a penalty , opinions eh ? …

In Rocky’s case there is a mistake in him though I think he has a touch of Efe Ambrose about him in the way he drives forward with the ball or is busting a gut to get into the box like in the incident when Boyle was chopped down against Motherwell . I think he offers something different than our other CH’s and is certainly more entertaining like Efe was who also made mistakes at times …

When Rocky makes a mistake they are generally highlighted more on here than when others do … like in the case of the goal we lost to Motherwell . If Rocky had made the challenge in giving away the free kick or had appeared to move away from the shot the level of criticism would have been far greater IMO.

[Unseen work]

He isn't rated many Charlton fans looking socials and their forums

https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/98938/january-transfer-window-rumours-actuals/p55

Yeah must admit I was surprised by that. Tbf him and Greg Docherty in midfield would be very similar and I think at times he played left of a diamond or left of a midfield 3

Based on what I saw at Motherwell I’d 100% take him, done well at Luton too

[Cabbage-Patch]

I checked Atanasov out yesterday.
Has only started 3 of his clubs 18 league matches this season and was subbed in all 3.
Didn't make the match day squad 3 times and didn't get off the bench 5 times.

Certainly a better option than NMW and Kwon so I'm all for it. Like to see him alongside Triantis

[JohnM1875]

He isn't rated many Charlton fans looking socials and their forums

https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/98938/january-transfer-window-rumours-actuals/p55

He was different class at Motherwell and same in his first two seasons at Luton. Basically played every game in their promotion season. Don't think you suddenly become crap.

Think its a case of getting back up the road, settling and going again. I'd be delighted if he ends up here.

Saying that, if he ends up at Sevco, mini Sevco or Aberdeen then I think he's ***** and his last few seasons on loan clearly show that.

[USA_Hibee]

Certainly a better option than NMW and Kwon so I'm all for it. Like to see him alongside Triantis

How do you know this? Have you seen him play? Genuinely curious.

[04Sauzee]

He was different class at Motherwell and same in his first two seasons at Luton. Basically played every game in their promotion season. Don't think you suddenly become crap.

Think its a case of getting back up the road, settling and going again. I'd be delighted if he ends up here.

Saying that, if he ends up at Sevco, mini Sevco or Aberdeen then I think he's ***** and his last few seasons on loan clearly show that.
Said as much earlier he was great in the Luton promotion season, not sure what happend last season with Millwall and this season with Charlton?

[J-C]

I keep seeing folk talk about most of our players not being good enough in general, this may be true to an extent but you can guarantee the majority of our 1st team players would get a game easily for our closest rivals. Until we are paying £10k+ in wages, then these are the players we're signing. Maolida and Marcondes we're those types of players and we couldn't pay all their wages.

[superfurryhibby]

You think the Marciano family are looking at houses in Edinburgh just to buy it as an asset? Would be a remarkably stupid place to buy, plenty better places to be investing money in property - where you can maximise profit.

:rolleyes::greengrin

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[04Sauzee]

Jamie McGrath not in the Aberdeen squad, reckon he will be off. Aberdeen have a fairly large squad.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s one alright though he’s not the only one.. mistakes are a funny thing in football as we all see them differently , like the penalty St Johnstone got which I thought was soft and happy to give Rocky a bit of leeway on it but you thought on it as a mistake and yet I thought the one we got against Sevco was more a penalty than the St Johnstone one but you didn’t think that one was a penalty , opinions eh ? …

In Rocky’s case there is a mistake in him though I think he has a touch of Efe Ambrose about him in the way he drives forward with the ball or is busting a gut to get into the box like in the incident when Boyle was chopped down against Motherwell . I think he offers something different than our other CH’s and is certainly more entertaining like Efe was who also made mistakes at times …

When Rocky makes a mistake they are generally highlighted more on here than when others do … like in the case of the goal we lost to Motherwell . If Rocky had made the challenge in giving away the free kick or had appeared to move away from the shot the level of criticism would have been far greater IMO.

If Bursik isn’t the only one then who else has made as many mistakes as Rocky?

Rocky’s mistakes aren’t highlighted more. Look at Bursik, his mistakes were highlighted prominently as well. Ekpiteta made two at the beginning of the season, they were highlighted prominently. Vente is still castigated for missing a couple of sitters when his name pops up. When you’re making so many glaring mistakes they’ll be highlighted no matter who you are. Rocky has more glaring mistakes highlighted because he makes more glaring mistakes than anyone else.

[The Modfather]

I keep seeing folk talk about most of our players not being good enough in general, this may be true to an extent but you can guarantee the majority of our 1st team players would get a game easily for our closest rivals. Until we are paying £10k+ in wages, then these are tge players we're signing. Maolida and Marcondes we're those types of players and we couldn't pay all their wages.

To flip that. How would our rivals feel paying those players what we do (fees and wages) to fluctuate between 8th - 5th - 8th & where ever we end up this season?

[ancient hibee]

If Bursik isn’t the only one then who else has made as many mistakes as Rocky?

Rocky’s mistakes aren’t highlighted more. Look at Bursik, his mistakes were highlighted prominently as well. When you’re making so many glaring mistakes that lead to goals they’ll be highlighted no matter who you are. Rocky has more glaring mistakes highlighted because he makes more glaring mistakes than anyone else.
Plenty of players have had more mistakes than Rocky. Mykonagainst Celtic and Rangers-and a poor scoring record generally. Whole midfields in the first three months of the season unable to find anyone with a pass.Players sent off for pathetic attempts at tackles.Everybody makes mistakes.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Plenty of players have had more mistakes than Rocky. Mykonagainst Celtic and Rangers-and a poor scoring record generally. Whole midfields in the first three months of the season unable to find anyone with a pass.Players sent off for pathetic attempts at tackles.Everybody makes mistakes.

You’ve listed 2 for Myko, but that’s significantly less than Rocky. A generic point about misplaced passes isn’t anything like the mistakes Rocky is making and some red cards that have been spread across numerous players.

Nobody is arguing that all players mistakes. Rocky makes a hell of a lot more than anyone else though, Bursik excluded, but he rightfully isn’t being discussed as whether he should be here next season for that reason.

Let’s be honest here, the answer to the question is that other than Bursik, nobody is making the same amount of glaring mistakes as Rocky. To argue otherwise is just a bit daft.

[PHeffernan]

Jamie McGrath not in the Aberdeen squad, reckon he will be off. Aberdeen have a fairly large squad.

The issue with McGrath is the usual out of contract at the end of the season but won't sign a new one scenario.
Aberdeen now in a Porteous type situation with him.

[raeburnhibs]

You think the Marciano family are looking at houses in Edinburgh just to buy it as an asset? Would be a remarkably stupid place to buy, plenty better places to be investing money in property - where you can maximise profit. Plus, I don’t think they will be as ‘rich’ as you imagine. If it’s true that Shelley is looking at houses, and I have no idea if she is, then I think it’s far more likely they are headed back to Scotland.

It was well documented how much they loved Edinburgh and given Rocky’s lack of game time and the current situation in Israel, it would make a lot of sense to move and settle with their 2 young boys.

remarkably stupid.....

[hibsbollah]

You’ve listed 2 for Myko, but that’s significantly less than Rocky. A generic point about misplaced passes isn’t anything like the mistakes Rocky is making and some red cards that have been spread across numerous players.

Nobody is arguing that all players mistakes. Rocky makes a hell of a lot more than anyone else though, Bursik excluded, but he rightfully isn’t being discussed as whether he should be here next season for that reason.

Let’s be honest here, the answer to the question is that other than Bursik, nobody is making the same amount of glaring mistakes as Rocky. To argue otherwise is just a bit daft.

You have literally been saying the same things about the same player for two weeks now, so much so youve actually killed the original thread on the man. Its just a big chunder of negativity.

[J-C]

To flip that. How would our rivals feel paying those players what we do (fees and wages) to fluctuate between 8th - 5th - 8th & where ever we end up this season?

I don't think most of our players are as bad as being made out, certainly not all of them, I think their confidence has been shot to pieces recently with the last couple of managers. Hopefully a manager who understands them and a system that gets the best from them will make a difference, has so far.

[AlbertK86]

The issue with McGrath is the usual out of contract at the end of the season but won't sign a new one.
Aberdeen now in a Porteous type situation with him.

Heard chat on radio a few days he was heading to MLS.

Also heard some of the self proclaimed big team morons saying he’s going to the pink bus shelter


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[tamig]

Certainly a better option than NMW and Kwon so I'm all for it. Like to see him alongside Triantis

NMW has done well in the last two games when he’s come on. Really helped turn the tide against the hun in particular. Still a big part to play for us.

[ancient hibee]

I
You’ve listed 2 for Myko, but that’s significantly less than Rocky. A generic point about misplaced passes isn’t anything like the mistakes Rocky is making and some red cards that have been spread across numerous players.

Nobody is arguing that all players mistakes. Rocky makes a hell of a lot more than anyone else though, Bursik excluded, but he rightfully isn’t being discussed as whether he should be here next season for that reason.

Let’s be honest here, the answer to the question is that other than Bursik, nobody is making the same amount of glaring mistakes as Rocky. To argue otherwise is just a bit daft.

All in your opinion of course. I think your argument is daft but naturally would not be rude enough to say so.:greengrin Incidentally I have no great desire for Rocky to stay or go and obviously we could get someone in who would be much better than him-as we could,money permitting,for all positions and players.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You have literally been saying the same things about the same player for two weeks now, so much so youve actually killed the original thread on the man. Its just a big chunder of negativity.

And others, including yourself, have been saying the same thing about the same player for weeks now the other way. Yet another poster who has an issue with reading opinions they don’t agree with.

And I’ve done some job of killing the other thread given there’s been about 30 posts on it since I last posted, including a post from yourself where funnily enough, you were making the same point you’ve been making for weeks, so much so that you quoted your own post to make the same point again. The irony isn’t lost on me, that’s for sure. :faf:.

[PHeffernan]

Heard chat on radio a few days he was heading to MLS.

Also heard some of the self proclaimed big team morons saying he’s going to the pink bus shelter


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MLS makes sense.
Certainly not making a sideways move to Hearts.
McGrath never signs a new contract, he always moves on.
Don't know if he does it for the signing on fees or whether he thinks a fresh challenge helps his game.
He's a good Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen level midfielder

[Mcbizz1998]

:rolleyes::greengrin

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Average Monthly Rent: £1,130
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|Coming in at number 2

Edinburgh is Scotland’s capital city and is considered one of Europe’s best cities to invest in property. With its rich cultural heritage, stunning architecture, and modern infrastructure, it’s not surprising that Edinburgh has become a prime destination for property investors looking for excellent returns and minimal risk. Its astonishingly high rental yield of 9.89% is also worth noting, making it one of the highest-yielding areas in the UK in 2023.

The city’s economy is fueled by a vibrant finance and technology industry, contributing to its consistent property market growth. According to Zoopla, Edinburgh has an average property price of £378,230, with an annual percentage rental change of 12.7%. JLL’s price growth index reveals that Edinburgh has an average of 4.8% price growth between 2022 and 2026, demonstrating the steady growth potential of the city’s property market.

Apart from the strong economy and steady growth potential, Edinburgh also offers numerous opportunities for rental yields and capital growth. The city has a high demand for rental properties due to its growing population and limited housing availability. As a result, investors can expect a stable rental income and benefit from capital growth in the long term.

Edinburgh’s thriving tourism industry is another factor that makes it the best place for property investment in the UK. The city is a popular tourist destination, with millions of visitors yearly, creating a lucrative market for short-term rental properties.

Yeah….. I meant they would be better investing outside of the UK. Thanks for your copy and paste input though 👍

[bod]

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[Donegal Hibby]

Jamie McGrath not in the Aberdeen squad, reckon he will be off. Aberdeen have a fairly large squad.

There was talk of America . I asked another Hibs fan here did he think he’d improve us and he answered “ yes “ .. One that would split the fans I think about him being a potential signing target. ( not that I see it happening) .

[He's here!]

Rumour going round in the Behind the Goals lounge on Saturday that Rocky Marciano wife has been seen in Edinburgh looking at house properties so that has prompted the rumour that Rocky could be back at Hibs.

That would be a good signing if true.

[He's here!]

Critchley referring to Rowles as 'a great servant to the club' after playing two seasons. I know not many players spend Lewis Stevenson-esque periods of time at clubs these days but is that enough to earn you a 'great servant' accolade?

Must have missed it but I note Zander Clark is now staying at the yams. I thought the chat around him coming to us seemed pretty legit from both sets of fans?

[Paulie Walnuts]

That would be a good signing if true.

I absolutely love Marciano but his lack of games since leaving us would definitely be a real concern.

[erin go bragh]

Critchley referring to Rowles as 'a great servant to the club' after playing two seasons. I know not many players spend Lewis Stevenson-esque periods of time at clubs these days but is that enough to earn you a 'great servant' accolade?

Must have missed it but I note Zander Clark is now staying at the yams. I thought the chat around him coming to us seemed pretty legit from both sets of fans?

A reliable poster on here had said we were not interested in Zander.

[JohnM1875]

A reliable poster on here had said we were not interested in Zander.

Hibs Observer said at the end of December it was something we were considering ‘concrete interest’

[AlbertK86]

Need ChuckNor to start typing then we know something will be afoot [emoji16]


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[He's here!]

A reliable poster on here had said we were not interested in Zander.

It's hardly a major blow. It just appeared to be a strong rumour.

Maybe Gordon told him he's retiring.

[Billy Whizz]

Hibs Observer said at the end of December it was something we were considering ‘concrete interest’

Poster on here who knows, said there was no contact from Hibs

[3pm]

I absolutely love Marciano but his lack of games since leaving us would definitely be a real concern.

He'd get up to speed again. I'd be up for that.

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen keeper actually looking good this evening. Out of contact in the summer.

[CentreLine]

Aberdeen keeper actually looking good this evening. Out of contact in the summer.

Thought he was awful earlier on. All at sea for the goal. Come on to a game a bit since though.

[HIBS NUTS]

Nisbet for Aberdeen looks like he will never score again.
Mabye because Aberdeen are so bad

[Alfred E Newman]

NMW has done well in the last two games when he’s come on. Really helped turn the tide against the hun in particular. Still a big part to play for us.

Was it not his back pass directly to a Rangers player that eventually led to their 3rd goal?

[S4uzee]

Nisbet for Aberdeen looks like he will never score again.
Mabye because Aberdeen are so bad

But we missed out massively in the summer …

[Hibernian2105]

I asked a cracowie fan their thoughts on Atanasov…

Atanasov
A useful name
A true mission player
Distributes the ball very well on the field
but these are in the past
Still, he could be a useful name for an average football player.
A fun name that can be a source of joy for the team off the field
He was a useful substitute for us (Cracovia).

Make of this what you will.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/larsnor82/status/1875907930182349114?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Dutch defender Lars Kramer at the Hibs Rangers game. Left his club in Denmark recently, could the emojis in that post suggest a move could be in the pipeline?

[superfurryhibby]

Yeah….. I meant they would be better investing outside of the UK. Thanks for your copy and paste input though 👍

Yeah, sure you did :aok:

[CallumLaidlaw]

https://x.com/larsnor82/status/1875907930182349114?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Dutch defender Lars Kramer at the Hibs Rangers game. Left his club in Denmark recently, could the emojis in that post suggest a move could be in the pipeline?

Your sleuthing work is exceptional.

Only thing is I think he’s contracted until the summer looking at transfermarkt and comments on the above post saying away in the summer.


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[007]

https://x.com/larsnor82/status/1875907930182349114?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Dutch defender Lars Kramer at the Hibs Rangers game. Left his club in Denmark recently, could the emojis in that post suggest a move could be in the pipeline?

His caption translates as:
"I wonder whether Kramer will slip away now or not until the summer"

[bingo70]

Your sleuthing work is exceptional.

Only thing is I think he’s contracted until the summer looking at transfermarkt and comments on the above post saying away in the summer.


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Transfermarkt has him as a free agent now.

Two people he has tagged there is Doron Salomon and Victor Saba, both agents for CAA Base.

Weird holiday for him to take with two agents if there wasn’t something happening.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Transfermarkt has him as a free agent now.

Says he’s without club in 25/26. And says his contract ends June 30th 2025


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[bingo70]

Says he’s without club in 25/26. And says his contract ends June 30th 2025


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So it does, sorry, my mistake.

[Col2]

He is a good age and pedigree (Dutch U20), played top flight Dutch league etc.

Would be high up on a super dooper spreadsheet analytics

[PHeffernan]

Aberdeen keeper actually looking good this evening. Out of contact in the summer.

I don't rate him higher than average but he saved their ass tonight.
Can see him returning to 3rd tier English football.

[PHeffernan]

I absolutely love Marciano but his lack of games since leaving us would definitely be a real concern.

Yeah, Ofir has only played 14 league games in 3.5 seasons. What a waste.

[basehibby]

I didn't mean it as a negative, Would love to have some who can hit worldies again from midfield if he can do the defensive side of the game he should be top of our transfer list but i have a feeling being able to do both will mean he wont be coming to Hibs.

Malan scored some absolute crackers for Hibs - an incredible striker of the ball who could ping in shots and free kicks from 30-40 yards and it was a pleasure to witness his goals. He was often criticised for his lack of application off the ball though and ultimately we struggled to fit him into a successful midfield.
Atanasov has a few gòod strikes in his highlights reel but I reckon Mallan would still have 5 worldies for his every one! As well as ability though Atanasov displays a work ethic that would be an asset in the SPL - I reckon he'd be a good signing.

[The Modfather]

https://x.com/larsnor82/status/1875907930182349114?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Dutch defender Lars Kramer at the Hibs Rangers game. Left his club in Denmark recently, could the emojis in that post suggest a move could be in the pipeline?

He was good in a back 3 with George Costanza & Jerry Seinfeld.

[Unseen work]

The post from Kramer makes me think he’s actually just been sorted with tickets for the game by his agent

Would be odd for him to make the post, tag agents with handshake emojis etc and nothing to be official two weeks later

[Centre Hawf]

Poster on here who knows, said there was no contact from Hibs

For what it's worth I'd heard from a reliable person that Dave Gray had no real interest in him. That's not to say he wasn't at least on some sort of potential list given his contract situation at some point though.

[Liam89]

Was it not his back pass directly to a Rangers player that eventually led to their 3rd goal?

I wouldn't hold that against him, he's barely played and it wasn't like he played a back pass that took the Rangers player directly into a 1 on 1, there were still a lot of chances for us to deal with it.

Thought he pressed really well and brought good energy at a much needed time in that game.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I wouldn't hold that against him, he's barely played and it wasn't like he played a back pass that took the Rangers player directly into a 1 on 1, there was still a lot of chances for us to deal with it.

Thought he pressed really well and brought good energy at a much needed time in that game.

I've just had flash backs of wollacott at county

[Heisenberg]

The post from Kramer makes me think he’s actually just been sorted with tickets for the game by his agent

Would be odd for him to make the post, tag agents with handshake emojis etc and nothing to be official two weeks later

You could be right, looks like his club have a winter break so he could’ve just been visiting. Quite bold if still under contract to post on social media that you are away at another club with your agents if it was for transfer talks.

[K-Zazu]

The January transfer window 😂 what a load of 💩

[jeffers]

For what it's worth I'd heard from a reliable person that Dave Gray had no real interest in him. That's not to say he wasn't at least on some sort of potential list given his contract situation at some point though.

Yup.

[JimBHibees]

The post from Kramer makes me think he’s actually just been sorted with tickets for the game by his agent

Would be odd for him to make the post, tag agents with handshake emojis etc and nothing to be official two weeks later

Might just be he enjoyed the game and was on a short break

[JeMeSouviens]

His caption translates as:
"I wonder whether Kramer will slip away now or not until the summer"

Tags a Danish journo whose reply says, "summer".

[007]

Tags a Danish journo whose reply says, "summer".

Then I guess we'll have to wait to see if Kramer makes an entrance.

https://i.ibb.co/4myQKd1/kramer-seinfeld-entrances.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[JohnM1875]

Atanasov, Kramer and one more in, probably a striker and I think that would be a decent window addressing areas we're weak in.

Ideally Allan Campbell chucked in as well, but can't see that happening.

[Joe6-2]

Might just be he enjoyed the game and was on a short break

Might be going to the Huns

[Hibernian Verse]

Might be going to the Huns

The picture is of the Rangers end...

[04Sauzee]

From Scott Burns

Celtic are set to test Aston Villa’s resolve with an opening seven figure bid for Louie Barry

[Joe6-2]

The picture is of the Rangers end...

Ah, I don’t have Twi….X so couldn’t check it out

[04Sauzee]

Kilmarnock have rejected a six-figure bid for Danny Armstrong. Understood to be from overseas. Armstrong is a pre-contract target for Hearts.

Story from @ewanpaton22

[JohnM1875]

The picture is of the Rangers end...

Its also where the ball is, we’re just in their box.

[Pytheas]

From Scott Burns

Celtic are set to test Aston Villa’s resolve with an opening seven figure bid for Louie Barry

Hibs should go after Johnny Kenny again. Not a loan.

Will never get a look in if they are going to pay millions for another striker.

[ruthven_raiders]

Atanasov, Kramer and one more in, probably a striker and I think that would be a decent window addressing areas we're weak in.

Ideally Allan Campbell chucked in as well, but can't see that happening.

Not bad options but I don't think a striker will be coming in, myko and Bowie are probably available for Saturday, youan to come back by February. Goalkeeper must be the no 1 priority tho....

[JohnM1875]

Hibs should go after Johnny Kenny again. Not a loan.

Will never get a look in if they are going to pay millions for another striker.

Couldn't play this season though. The old, played for two teams already issue. But agree.

[JohnM1875]

Not bad options but I don't think a striker will be coming in, myko and Bowie are probably available for Saturday, youan to come back by February. Goalkeeper must be the no 1 priority tho....

Aye, could be a shout about a keeper. Class having Bowie back, but it'll take him a good while to get any real match sharpness.

[04Sauzee]

Couldn't play this season though. The old, played for two teams already issue. But agree.

How does that work with players playing in Ireland with theirs being a summer season? Genuine question as I don't know. Seems strange Celtic playing him and now they have to keep him in the squad until the summer.

[JohnM1875]

How does that work with players playing in Ireland with theirs being a summer season? Genuine question as I don't know. Seems strange Celtic playing him and now they have to keep him in the squad until the summer.

That's a fair point actually, didn't think about that. Genuinely not sure either.

[badabing67]

Its also where the ball is, we’re just in their box.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgiQUaIXAAAtNar?format=jpg&name=medium

[JohnM1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgiQUaIXAAAtNar?format=jpg&name=medium

Yeah, we’re in their box on the ball in that picture.

[Donegal Hibby]

From Scott Burns

Celtic are set to test Aston Villa’s resolve with an opening seven figure bid for Louie Barry

Seen a fair bit of him at Stockport … some player ! . Aston Villa trying to get him to sign another contract with Leeds rumoured to be interested in taking him on loan too ..

One I think is surprising about Celtic is they are rumoured to be talks with a club about selling Kyogo , personally I thought he was worth keeping from their point of view.

[evy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgiQUaIXAAAtNar?format=jpg&name=medium

Good to see the steward's doing their job of keeping flags off the advertising boards...

[Hibernian Verse]

Its also where the ball is, we’re just in their box.

It is, but I'm sure he could have got a photo of the whole stadium/hibs end when Hibs were on the ball.

Hopefully it's Hibs.

[JohnM1875]

It is, but I'm sure he could have got a photo of the whole stadium/hibs end when Hibs were on the ball.

Hopefully it's Hibs.

Aye, suppose so.

Just weird that the game was eleven days ago now. If anything was agreed you'd expect it would've been announced by now.

[JimBHibees]

Aye, suppose so.

Just weird that the game was eleven days ago now. If anything was agreed you'd expect it would've been announced by now.

Might be he has agreed a pre contract and that we are negotiating to come now. Anyone any idea if he is any good. 😄

[Centre Hawf]

How does that work with players playing in Ireland with theirs being a summer season? Genuine question as I don't know. Seems strange Celtic playing him and now they have to keep him in the squad until the summer.

You are allowed to ask for special permission to play for a third if the clubs you're moving between have overlapping seasons. But I'm not confident on the technicalities of what would be considered an acceptable case.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/talkbournemouth/status/1879839156614123989?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Bournemouth signing young Chelsea player Zain Silcott-Duberry.

Not a first team signing so could potentially find his way up here or free up space in the Bournemouth development side so someone else can be sent up? They’ve had a few young players in the fringes of their first team recently.

[tamig]

Not bad options but I don't think a striker will be coming in, myko and Bowie are probably available for Saturday, youan to come back by February. Goalkeeper must be the no 1 priority tho....

Are Myko and Bowie likely to be involved on Saturday? Even if so, I wouldn’t be pinning too much hope on seeing a lot of minutes from Bowie anytime soon. Simply based on how we were nursing him back from his previous injury.

[erin go bragh]

Kilmarnock have rejected a six-figure bid for Danny Armstrong. Understood to be from overseas. Armstrong is a pre-contract target for Hearts.

Story from @ewanpaton22

Was said that Armstrong spoke to Hearts but wants 8k a week and they offered 5
So no deal.

[erin go bragh]

Are Myko and Bowie likely to be involved on Saturday? Even if so, I wouldn’t be pinning too much hope on seeing a lot of minutes from Bowie anytime soon. Simply based on how we were nursing him back from his previous injury.

A fit Myko has managed just 2 goals . Would rather we cut the loan and sign another striker.

[Coco Bryce]

Are Myko and Bowie likely to be involved on Saturday? Even if so, I wouldn’t be pinning too much hope on seeing a lot of minutes from Bowie anytime soon. Simply based on how we were nursing him back from his previous injury.

Myko has had his chance.

Send him back and get someone decent in.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A fit Myko has managed just 2 goals . Would rather we cut the loan and sign another striker.

:agree:

[flash]

Myko has had his chance.

Send him back and get someone decent in.

Might not be possible to be fair.

[Edinburgh Green]

https://x.com/talkbournemouth/status/1879839156614123989?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Bournemouth signing young Chelsea player Zain Silcott-Duberry.

Not a first team signing so could potentially find his way up here or free up space in the Bournemouth development side so someone else can be sent up? They’ve had a few young players in the fringes of their first team recently.

Without seeing him play, or know how adaptable he is, I'd be surprised if we were looking at wingers given the new formation we play.

[Hibs4185]

From Scott Burns

Celtic are set to test Aston Villa’s resolve with an opening seven figure bid for Louie Barry

I wonder if/when SJM falls out of favour at Aston Villa whether Celtic might be his final destination. Could maybe get some of our sell on fee hopefully

[badabing67]

Are Myko and Bowie likely to be involved on Saturday? Even if so, I wouldn’t be pinning too much hope on seeing a lot of minutes from Bowie anytime soon. Simply based on how we were nursing him back from his previous injury.

I really like the idea of Myko and Bowie as a front 2 pairing, hopefully we get to see it sometime in the not to distant future.

[badabing67]

I wonder if/when SJM falls out of favour at Aston Villa whether Celtic might be his final destination. Could maybe get some of our sell on fee hopefully


Would prefer it if he came back here though.

[Smartie]

I wonder if/when SJM falls out of favour at Aston Villa whether Celtic might be his final destination. Could maybe get some of our sell on fee hopefully

Most Celtic fans I know have an irrational dislike of him.

I don’t think they like that both Hibs and the player weren’t prepared to bow to the mighty Celtic and let them set the whole agenda when they were interested in him when he was leaving us.

[Centre Hawf]

Most Celtic fans I know have an irrational dislike of him.

I don’t think they like that both Hibs and the player weren’t prepared to bow to the mighty Celtic and let them set the whole agenda when they were interested in him when he was leaving us.

By the time he gets there and plays for them they'll not care anymore.

[Tyler Durden]

Without seeing him play, or know how adaptable he is, I'd be surprised if we were looking at wingers given the new formation we play.

I think Gray will want to be adaptable, he's said as much last summer.

Also the back 3 may stay but you can still utilise wingers in a 3-4-3. Even games like Aberdeen or Hearts away when Boyle and Youan were nominally up front but basically splitting wide. Players are flexible these days.

[Tyler Durden]

A fit Myko has managed just 2 goals . Would rather we cut the loan and sign another striker.

He's got 4 goals.

It was only a few weeks ago that Martin Boyle only had 4 goals. Myko can still contribute now that we're actually creating more chances.

[JohnM1875]

He's got 4 goals.

It was only a few weeks ago that Martin Boyle only had 4 goals. Myko can still contribute now that we're actually creating more chances.

Is he likely to get two better chances than he got against Celtic?

I really want him to come good, but just can't see it at all. Boyle and Bowie up top seems a much better pairing to me.

[TrinityHFC]

Is he likely to get two better chances than he got against Celtic?

I really want him to come good, but just can't see it at all. Boyle and Bowie up top seems a much better pairing to me.

Just like everyone else that no one wanted to play for us ever again after the first few weeks. He will be here for the season and will have a role to play when he’s back.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Is he likely to get two better chances than he got against Celtic?

I really want him to come good, but just can't see it at all. Boyle and Bowie up top seems a much better pairing to me.

Bowie has 120 professional appearances with a return of 24 goals.

[Dashing Bob S]

Bowie with Vente or McKirdy alongside him

[badabing67]

Bowie has 120 professional appearances with a return of 24 goals.


Yes but most of his time at Northampton he was playing as a winger.

[JimBHibees]

Is he likely to get two better chances than he got against Celtic?

I really want him to come good, but just can't see it at all. Boyle and Bowie up top seems a much better pairing to me.

I like him would be good to see how he does in front two

[04Sauzee]

Bowie has 120 professional appearances with a return of 24 goals.

You have to ask yourself how many of these games did he play as an out and out striker No9 as I'm sure he used to play on the left at times? And he debuted at about 16 years of age.

[badabing67]

Bowie with Vente or McKirdy alongside him


Bowie & Myko would terrorise opposition defences imo. The dream team if given the chance.

[JohnM1875]

Bowie has 120 professional appearances with a return of 24 goals.

Myko has 83 appearances with 14 goals and has always played as a striker.

Having seen very little Bowie you can already tell he's a better player imo.

[The Modfather]

I think Gray will want to be adaptable, he's said as much last summer.

Also the back 3 may stay but you can still utilise wingers in a 3-4-3. Even games like Aberdeen or Hearts away when Boyle and Youan were nominally up front but basically splitting wide. Players are flexible these days.

I’d like our wingbacks to be more like wingers than defenders anyway. More Nicky Cadden than Chris. 3 centre backs and a defensive midfielder is more than enough defensive minded players for the majority of our games, particularly at home IMO. Boyle was sensational at wingback the season we finished 4th for example.

[Tyler Durden]

I’d like our wingbacks to be more like wingers than defenders anyway. More Nicky Cadden than Chris. 3 centre backs and a defensive midfielder is more than enough defensive minded players for the majority of our games, particularly at home IMO. Boyle was sensational at wingback the season we finished 4th for example.

Great point. I think Ruben Amorim for example usually likes to have one winger at wing back and a more defensive player on the other side. Hopefully if we continue to improve we can consider more attacking options. Or just find someone on the right who can match what Nicky Cadden provides....

[BoomtownHibees]

Great point. I think Ruben Amorim for example usually likes to have one winger at wing back and a more defensive player on the other side. Hopefully if we continue to improve we can consider more attacking options. Or just find someone on the right who can match what Nicky Cadden provides....

I think we do similar. If you watch the defence warming up before the game they warm up as a 4 with N Cadden not included

[scoopyboy]

A fit Myko has managed just 2 goals . Would rather we cut the loan and sign another striker.

What two goals was that then?

The league goals against St.Johnstone, Hearts or Motherwell or the League Cup goal at Celtic?

[04Sauzee]

Ross County make a couple of loan signings
.Ross County FC are delighted to confirm the signing of 22-year old full-back Zac Ashworth from Blackpool on loan until the end of the season.

Welcome to the club, Zac!

Ross County FC are delighted to confirm the signing of American central defender Jonathan Tomkinson on loan from Norwich City until the end of the season.

Jonathan, 22, is a 6 foot 4 central defender who joined the Canaries in 2019.

Welcome to the club, Jonathan!

[mcfly]

Bowie with Vente or McKirdy alongside him

Mckirdy 🙈

[Hibernian2105]

There’s a claim in the Swedish media that Hibernian are showing interest in Kuopion Palloseura midfielder Matias Siltanen.

It’s claimed both clubs have put in bids in the region of £700k after initial reports Bournemouth were the club that had made an offer for Siltanen.

https://t.co/zbKltiEO0R

[mcfly]

Bowie & Myko would terrorise opposition defences imo. The dream team if given the chance.

I think Dwight gayle has been excellent - if we keep him fit we will do just fine.

He’s been brilliant for us recently. Class act

[Centre Hawf]

There’s a claim in the Swedish media that Hibernian are showing interest in Kuopion Palloseura midfielder Matias Siltanen.

It’s claimed both clubs have put in bids in the region of £700k after initial reports Bournemouth were the club that had made an offer for Siltanen.

https://t.co/zbKltiEO0R

17 year old for £700k. Unless Foley/BKFC are funding this for us with a view to him moving down south eventually then I can't see that being a move Hibs would make off their own back. Best guess is that Bournemouth are the ones bidding with a view to us getting him on loan if it's got any legs to it.

[Unseen work]

There’s a claim in the Swedish media that Hibernian are showing interest in Kuopion Palloseura midfielder Matias Siltanen.

It’s claimed both clubs have put in bids in the region of £700k after initial reports Bournemouth were the club that had made an offer for Siltanen.

https://t.co/zbKltiEO0R

Surely it’s crossed wires and it’s Bournemouth and he might be loaned to us

Man City were linked with him and that’s a massive outlay for a 17 year old for us

He does look good in the clips, certainly doesn’t look like a 17 year old in his style of play

[bingo70]

There’s a claim in the Swedish media that Hibernian are showing interest in Kuopion Palloseura midfielder Matias Siltanen.

It’s claimed both clubs have put in bids in the region of £700k after initial reports Bournemouth were the club that had made an offer for Siltanen.

https://t.co/zbKltiEO0R

That’d be some move.

Man City supposed to be monitoring his progress as well. I watched a few of his videos on YouTube when he was linked with Bournemouth as I wondered if he could be sent here on loan.

[04Sauzee]

There’s a claim in the Swedish media that Hibernian are showing interest in Kuopion Palloseura midfielder Matias Siltanen.

It’s claimed both clubs have put in bids in the region of £700k after initial reports Bournemouth were the club that had made an offer for Siltanen.

https://t.co/zbKltiEO0R

700k for a 17 year old?

[Hibernian2105]

Surely it’s crossed wires and it’s Bournemouth and he might be loaned to us

Man City were linked with him and that’s a massive outlay for a 17 year old for us

He does look good in the clips, certainly doesn’t look like a 17 year old in his style of play

I assumed same. Or it’s being put through our books for logistics reasons with the aim to progress him upwards to lorient/bmouth?

Just read another article which suggests it’s basically a done deal for him to sign for Djungardens in Sweden though

[04Sauzee]

St Johnstone set to sign Swedish midfielder Jonathan Svedberg

[JohnM1875]

I think that's us, Dundee Utd and the uglies without a signing this window.

Least we're starting to hear a few rumors now though. I'm confident we'll have a player in two in for the away game up in Dingwall now.

[Hibee Daft]

I wonder if/when SJM falls out of favour at Aston Villa whether Celtic might be his final destination. Could maybe get some of our sell on fee hopefully

Moyes might want him at Everton if he falls out of favour at Aston villa

[Centre Hawf]

Moyes might want him at Everton if he falls out of favour at Aston villa

Selfishly that would actually be a really good scenario for us if so, even if they sprung £10m on him we'd pocket about a million off it.

[Hibiza]

Mckirdy name crops up regularly. Sorry about his health scare BUT been given plenty of chances. Canu see a player there but hope I'm wrong.

[JohnM1875]

Mckirdy name crops up regularly. Sorry about his health scare BUT been given plenty of chances. Canu see a player there but hope I'm wrong.

Surely he's off this window? Probably right at the end. No chance he's even making the squad if Myko and Bowie are back fit. Youan will be back soon if he doesn't leave too.

[Centre Hawf]

Surely he's off this window? Probably right at the end. No chance he's even making the squad if Myko and Bowie are back fit. Youan will be back soon if he doesn't leave too.

He left right at the arse end of the window last January which probably allowed Mayenda to come in. Not that we got much of a return on him either but at least he's actually a player.

I reckon it will be the same again for McKirdy, loan down south to a struggling League 2 side where we probably pick up about 80% of his wage until his contract ends.

[andrew70]

Mckirdy name crops up regularly. Sorry about his health scare BUT been given plenty of chances. Canu see a player there but hope I'm wrong.

His health scare is significantly underplayed quite rightly but he’s been through the mill. He’s a good lad and was speaking well at the sponsors do on Sat.

He’s hardly played so plenty of chances is unfair.

He’s probably best off leaving but Hibs have a contract to fulfill and he might find it hard to get a new club however he’s on the bench for us so there’s hope.

Fingers crossed he goes on to have a good career but it’s unfortunate what’s happened whilst here.

[Nicho87]

If your still unestablished 2.5 years into a 3 year contract

The writing is on the wall

[eastmainsmsh]

17 year old for £700k. Unless Foley/BKFC are funding this for us with a view to him moving down south eventually then I can't see that being a move Hibs would make off their own back. Best guess is that Bournemouth are the ones bidding with a view to us getting him on loan if it's got any legs to it.

As much As he might be a player we tried with Melkerson and it didn’t quite work out unf
can we afford to go back to these signings ?

[Lago]

His health scare is significantly underplayed quite rightly but he’s been through the mill. He’s a good lad and was speaking well at the sponsors do on Sat.

He’s hardly played so plenty of chances is unfair.

He’s probably best off leaving but Hibs have a contract to fulfill and he might find it hard to get a new club however he’s on the bench for us so there’s hope.

Fingers crossed he goes on to have a good career but it’s unfortunate what’s happened whilst here.
Well said👍

[Ray_]

As much As he might be a player we tried with Melkerson and it didn’t quite work out unf
can we afford to go back to these signings ?

Did we not make a substantial profit from that bit of business?

[hibees 7062]

Did we not make a substantial profit from that bit of business?
Aboot 800k profit

[Trinity Hibee]

Aboot 800k profit

Is that true? I cannot understand why anyone would pay £800k more than we did. Had one good game at Motherwell in the cup and that’s it. All very odd

[04Sauzee]

Daily Record running with the Siltanen story aven although they are saying 'reportedly'

Matias Siltanen 'wanted' for Hibs as six-figure bid tabled amid transfer tussle 🥬

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

[Unseen work]

The Atanasov piece in the Hibs Observer has me in two minds

Stats wise he seems good and has a similar profile to Triantis, so whilst not start ahead of him and Newell might be a good third option or in there with them.

That would be fine if a couple of midfielders left

But it’s his lack of minutes that is my concern, admittedly I don’t know the standards of the teams or leagues he’s playing in but my intial reaction is I would expect us to sign a player from them that plays regularly and is a stand out

Hard to judge

[King Cosell]

The Atanasov piece in the Hibs Observer has me in two minds

Stats wise he seems good and has a similar profile to Triantis, so whilst not start ahead of him and Newell might be a good third option or in there with them.

That would be fine if a couple of midfielders left

But it’s his lack of minutes that is my concern, admittedly I don’t know the standards of the teams or leagues he’s playing in but my intial reaction is I would expect us to sign a player from them that plays regularly and is a stand out

Hard to judge

Cracovia are 5th in the Polish top flight. Judging by Transfermarkt valuations, they're about the same standard as Hibs. His previous club, Hajduk Split, are quite a bit better.

[Centre Hawf]

As much As he might be a player we tried with Melkerson and it didn’t quite work out unf
can we afford to go back to these signings ?

We can afford to if BKFC are funding it or sending us him on loan, but we certainly can't afford to spend our budget on a 17 year old ourselves.


Daily Record running with the Siltanen story aven although they are saying 'reportedly'

Matias Siltanen 'wanted' for Hibs as six-figure bid tabled amid transfer tussle 🥬

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

Rule of thumb is if it's got 'reportedly' in it then they're just lifting it off another story, which they have done in this case.

If it's their own work that they're producing it will tend to have exclusive written on it to shout from the roof tops that they've picked up a phone and checked something out.

[Unseen work]

Cracovia are 5th in the Polish top flight. Judging by Transfermarkt valuations, they're about the same standard as Hibs. His previous club, Hajduk Split, are quite a bit better.

That’s half my point. Doesn’t seem to have played for Split much at all and then only 400 minutes this season for Cracovia?

Tbf I try not to judge players too much now based on their past. I was buzzing with Melkersen and confused when we signed Boyle…the examples are endless

It’s more just he doesn’t strike me as the “wow” signing Gray has hinted at, but I’ve not seen him play 🤣

[Bad Habits]

That’s half my point. Doesn’t seem to have played for Split much at all and then only 400 minutes this season for Cracovia?

Tbf I try not to judge players too much now based on their past. I was buzzing with Melkersen and confused when we signed Boyle…the examples are endless

It’s more just he doesn’t strike me as the “wow” signing Gray has hinted at, but I’ve not seen him play 🤣

Reading between the lines I can maybe see us plugging for him as a replacement to triantis. If Sunderland miss out on promotion I can see them bringing him into the fold, if they go up we may get a chance to nab him!

I read on a Cracovia forum yesterday he is on a large contract and maybe they need or want to shift him?

I'm more than happy to bring players in that have lost their way and try and get some juice out of them, I just don't want a whole team like that

[King Cosell]

That’s half my point. Doesn’t seem to have played for Split much at all and then only 400 minutes this season for Cracovia?

Tbf I try not to judge players too much now based on their past. I was buzzing with Melkersen and confused when we signed Boyle…the examples are endless

It’s more just he doesn’t strike me as the “wow” signing Gray has hinted at, but I’ve not seen him play 🤣

It's hard to tell, if Hibs had started the season well with Newell & Kwon, it's quite possible that Triantis wouldn't have played much.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Daily Record running with the Siltanen story aven although they are saying 'reportedly'

Matias Siltanen 'wanted' for Hibs as six-figure bid tabled amid transfer tussle 🥬

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…


Reported here aswell

https://sportwitness.co.uk/hibernian-table-offer-for-highly-rated-young-midfielder-next-few-days-crucial/

[OstKurve Hibs]

Is that true? I cannot understand why anyone would pay £800k more than we did. Had one good game at Motherwell in the cup and that’s it. All very odd

He went back to Norway on loan and banged in a decent amount of goals iirc. Woulda bumped his price up.

[Since452]

Off topic really but noticed Paul McGinn out for 4 months after going off injured in our game. Shame for him. One of the good guys.

[hibee1875]

His health scare is significantly underplayed quite rightly but he’s been through the mill. He’s a good lad and was speaking well at the sponsors do on Sat.

He’s hardly played so plenty of chances is unfair.

He’s probably best off leaving but Hibs have a contract to fulfill and he might find it hard to get a new club however he’s on the bench for us so there’s hope.

Fingers crossed he goes on to have a good career but it’s unfortunate what’s happened whilst here.

I think he comes across as a bit of a bad egg tbh. Watch him warming up towards the end of the game when there’s only 1 or 2 subs left. Always seems to have something to say about it and looked to be winding NMW up when Kwon was called on ahead of him on Saturday

[DIXIHIBS]

Off topic really but noticed Paul McGinn out for 4 months after going off injured in our game. Shame for him. One of the good guys.

He knew it was a bad one. Looked really upset when he went off.

[Haymaker]

I assumed same. Or it’s being put through our books for logistics reasons with the aim to progress him upwards to lorient/bmouth?

Just read another article which suggests it’s basically a done deal for him to sign for Djungardens in Sweden though

Would he not need a work permit?

It is easier for scottish clubs to get a WP and it is easier to then organize a transfer to an English club. Could well be a case that we sign him, get a permit and a couple years out of him and he signs to Bompey as a 19/20 year old.

I'm sure that's one of the benefits of having a scottish club under their umbrella.

[Sheffhibee]

Daily Record running with the Siltanen story aven although they are saying 'reportedly'

Matias Siltanen 'wanted' for Hibs as six-figure bid tabled amid transfer tussle ��

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

https://youtu.be/thrdPRX-jNc?si=qAnL-F-toGHBUlc_
This laddie seems to have all the skills to succeed in the game, playing at a good level at 17, conference league experience considered one of the top prospects in Finnish football, love the way the opposition players almost always resort to hacking him down because they can't get the ball off him.
Hope this rumour is true and we get him....

[04Sauzee]

Motherwell sign Jordan McGhee from Dundee on a pre-contract

[JohnM1875]

https://youtu.be/thrdPRX-jNc?si=qAnL-F-toGHBUlc_
This laddie seems to have all the skills to succeed in the game, playing at a good level at 17, conference league experience considered one of the top prospects in Finnish football, love the way the opposition players almost always resort to hacking him down because they can't get the ball off him.
Hope this rumour is true and we get him....

I've stopped trusting highlight clips. Been fooled far too many times by them.

Could be another Melkersen, majority of the club games look like its on plastic pitches.

[hibsbollah]

I think he comes across as a bit of a bad egg tbh. Watch him warming up towards the end of the game when there’s only 1 or 2 subs left. Always seems to have something to say about it and looked to be winding NMW up when Kwon was called on ahead of him on Saturday

I’ve seen no evidence of him being a ‘bad egg ’. He’s always talking when hes warming up but that’s not a crime, in fact scotty brown did likewise.

[bingo70]

I've stopped trusting highlight clips. Been fooled far too many times by them.

Could be another Melkersen, majority of the club games look like its on plastic pitches.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/oct/15/next-generation-2024-60-of-the-best-young-talents-in-world-football

I don’t know about the astro pitches part but he is in good company in this article.

[Sheffhibee]

I've stopped trusting highlight clips. Been fooled far too many times by them.

Could be another Melkersen, majority of the club games look like its on plastic pitches.

We didn't do too badly with Melkersen though , sold him for a handsome profit if I remember correctly
Interestingly Jarrko Wiss is the manager there so a wee Hibees connection there as well.
I suspect this would be the Black Knights pyramid coming into play, permit via us with a view to a move up the pyramid after a season or two

[J-C]

Is that true? I cannot understand why anyone would pay £800k more than we did. Had one good game at Motherwell in the cup and that’s it. All very odd

Scored 6 in 30 for Stromsgodset in 2024.

[hibee1875]

I’ve seen no evidence of him being a ‘bad egg ’. He’s always talking when hes warming up but that’s not a crime, in fact scotty brown did likewise.

Fair enough. More than once I’ve seen him mouth **** off as he’s jogged out the bench area.

Also meaning is actions immediately after another player is called back. Not general chit chat whilst warming up

[Donegal Hibby]

https://youtu.be/thrdPRX-jNc?si=qAnL-F-toGHBUlc_
This laddie seems to have all the skills to succeed in the game, playing at a good level at 17, conference league experience considered one of the top prospects in Finnish football, love the way the opposition players almost always resort to hacking him down because they can't get the ball off him.
Hope this rumour is true and we get him....

Looks a class act .. much the same as you in hope the rumour is true and we get him 🤞.

Similar highlights here on him signing for Man City …

https://youtu.be/VXTUKWegBkE?si=RBJLLGypyzfsW-DK

[fiolex1]

We didn't do too badly with Melkersen though , sold him for a handsome profit if I remember correctly
Interestingly Jarrko Wiss is the manager there so a wee Hibees connection there as well.
I suspect this would be the Black Knights pyramid coming into play, permit via us with a view to a move up the pyramid after a season or two

Genuine question, who would be buying him? Hibs or Black Knights? If Hibs are and he’s successful do Bournemouth get first refusal and get him at a knock down price, or if Black Knights are funding does he go to Bournemouth for zero transfer? I’m not sure how it would work. The only benefit would be potentially getting a good player for a season or two but no transfer money?

[superfurryhibby]

That’s half my point. Doesn’t seem to have played for Split much at all and then only 400 minutes this season for Cracovia?

Tbf I try not to judge players too much now based on their past. I was buzzing with Melkersen and confused when we signed Boyle…the examples are endless

It’s more just he doesn’t strike me as the “wow” signing Gray has hinted at, but I’ve not seen him play ��

Played 69 times for Split and and has played 15 games in all competitions for Cracovia this season, with a total of 645 minutes.

[Sheffhibee]

Genuine question, who would be buying him? Hibs or Black Knights? If Hibs are and he’s successful do Bournemouth get first refusal and get him at a knock down price, or if Black Knights are funding does he go to Bournemouth for zero transfer? I’m not sure how it would work. The only benefit would be potentially getting a good player for a season or two but no transfer money?
God knows! I really can't see us funding this under our own steam, possibly a % share of the cost and sell on. I'm sure the ways and means of these things are sorted out, my priority is always getting the best quality players on the pitch for our team.

[cameronw-hfc]

Fair enough. More than once I’ve seen him mouth **** off as he’s jogged out the bench area.

Also meaning is actions immediately after another player is called back. Not general chit chat whilst warming up


He's popular within the squad and has been generally all liked by everyone around the scenes since he came in. It hasn't worked here for Harry but I think it's really harsh to call him a bad egg.

Worth remembering footballers are humans too, it can't have been easy for him over the last 2 years in the slightest so if there are some signs of discontent I don't think that should be held against him too harshly.

[Haymaker]

Genuine question, who would be buying him? Hibs or Black Knights? If Hibs are and he’s successful do Bournemouth get first refusal and get him at a knock down price, or if Black Knights are funding does he go to Bournemouth for zero transfer? I’m not sure how it would work. The only benefit would be potentially getting a good player for a season or two but no transfer money?

We would be buying him (money invested by our minority owners perhaps helping) and I imagine Bompey would get favorable terms should he continue to develop and sign with them.

[Wilson]

I’ve seen no evidence of him being a ‘bad egg ’. He’s always talking when hes warming up but that’s not a crime, in fact scotty brown did likewise.

https://youtu.be/rpKqMC2YfwI?si=-quBo26wIHe4B-vK

[PHeffernan]

I assumed same. Or it’s being put through our books for logistics reasons with the aim to progress him upwards to lorient/bmouth?

Just read another article which suggests it’s basically a done deal for him to sign for Djungardens in Sweden though

Djurgarden are a bigger and richer club than Hibs so the young guy will go to the Swedes if it's a straight choice.
However, if Foley is somewhere in the mix that might change things.
The young guys club, KUPS, won the Finnish league in 2024 and he played a big part. However, despite being the Champions, his clubs average home attendances were only 3,500 and they were the 3rd best supported team in the country so it is a fermers league he has played well in. 4 teams in our Scottish Championship had better home attendances than KUPS so they are by that measurement a smaller club than Raith Rovers.

[PHeffernan]

St Johnstone set to sign Swedish midfielder Jonathan Svedberg

He's played 64 games in the Swedish top flight and 100 in their second tier so should be decent.
St J really need to sign some defenders sharpish.

[Since90+2]

Djurgarden are a bigger and richer club than Hibs so the young guy will go to the Swedes if it's a straight choice.
However, if Foley is somewhere in the mix that might change things.
The young guys club, KUPS, won the Finnish league in 2024 and he played a big part. However, despite being the Champions, his clubs average home attendances were only 3,500 and they were the 3rd best supported team in the country so it is a fermers league he has played well in. 4 teams in our Scottish Championship had better home attendances than KUPS so they are by that measurement a smaller club than Raith Rovers.

I don't think it's as straightforward as saying they are a bigger club so a done deal he will go there.

The Scottish leagues are seen as a pathway to the riches of England, if he does very well at Hibs then he's almost guaranteed a move down south and that's where the big money really is. The pathway from Scotland to England is much clearer than it is from Sweden to the English leagues.

Not saying he won't end up there, but it's not as straightforward as bigger club = he'll definitely go there.

[Since90+2]

Genuine question, who would be buying him? Hibs or Black Knights? If Hibs are and he’s successful do Bournemouth get first refusal and get him at a knock down price, or if Black Knights are funding does he go to Bournemouth for zero transfer? I’m not sure how it would work. The only benefit would be potentially getting a good player for a season or two but no transfer money?

Black Nights as an organisation cannot buy him, his registration would need to be to a club rather than an organisation.

So it would be either Hibs or Bournemouth who buy him.

[JimBHibees]

I don't think it's as straightforward as saying they are a bigger club so a done deal he will go there.

The Scottish leagues are seen as a pathway to the riches of England, if he does very well at Hibs then he's almost guaranteed a move down south and that's where the big money really is. The pathway from Scotland to England is much clearer than it is from Sweden to the English leagues.

Not saying he won't end up there, but it's not as straightforward as bigger club = he'll definitely go there.

The pathway thing is important particularly the Foley links to EPL Bournemouth

[Since452]

Djurgarden are a bigger and richer club than Hibs so the young guy will go to the Swedes if it's a straight choice.
However, if Foley is somewhere in the mix that might change things.
The young guys club, KUPS, won the Finnish league in 2024 and he played a big part. However, despite being the Champions, his clubs average home attendances were only 3,500 and they were the 3rd best supported team in the country so it is a fermers league he has played well in. 4 teams in our Scottish Championship had better home attendances than KUPS so they are by that measurement a smaller club than Raith Rovers.

We pumped them out their first ever European campaign though. Always in our shadow.

[Heisenberg]

Article I’d read, albeit translated so might not be 100%, said he was leaning towards Djurgarden because his old manager has just taken over there and their sporting director had made a very good impression too.

[ruthven_raiders]

Article I’d read, albeit translated so might not be 100%, said he was leaning towards Djurgarden because his old manager has just taken over there and their sporting director had made a very good impression too.

Seems a sensible lad then, looking out for his long term career, next step for him in a similar culture.....then move from there in a few years....

[hibsbollah]

https://youtu.be/rpKqMC2YfwI?si=-quBo26wIHe4B-vK

Derailing the thread with another obscure comment:greengrin

[Springbank]

Let's not Kid on

The scenes when Hibs won the cup in 2016 have no equivalent in Scandinavian football

If Hibs are offering you the chance of that, allied to established links to a high flying EPL club, there's your next move..

[The Spaceman]

Love these kind of rumours/signings. High octane stuff - could be worth millions or a disaster. Mon the Hibs.

[Since452]

I've stopped trusting highlight clips. Been fooled far too many times by them.

Could be another Melkersen, majority of the club games look like its on plastic pitches.

Exactly. If I could compile a highlight reel of my working life id be getting headhunted constantly. They wouldn't see the other 75% I spend procrastinating 😂

[Since90+2]

Let's not Kid on

The scenes when Hibs won the cup in 2016 have no equivalent in Scandinavian football

If Hibs are offering you the chance of that, allied to established links to a high flying EPL club, there's your next move..

I'd imagine Hibs winning the Scottish cup almost 10 years ago will have little to no bearing at all on his decision.

[Centre Hawf]

I think he comes across as a bit of a bad egg tbh. Watch him warming up towards the end of the game when there’s only 1 or 2 subs left. Always seems to have something to say about it and looked to be winding NMW up when Kwon was called on ahead of him on Saturday

I've actually heard the opposite in that he's quite well liked in the squad, haven't really heard anyone say a bad word about him other than his fashion choices. I'm actually quited gutted it didn't work out for him here as he's quite unapologetically himself and I like that self-confidence in a striker.

[blackpoolhibs]

I dont think there's anything in moving to Scotland that makes it easier to make it in the EPL, there are many more players move there from other countries than do from Scotland, even to lower divisions.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Not up to speed on this story about the Finnish lad but could we utilise big Mixu to play a part here?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I dont think there's anything in moving to Scotland that makes it easier to make it in the EPL, there are many more players move there from other countries than do from Scotland, even to lower divisions.

Generally would agree. Unless you’re at the Old Firm then the highest you’re going is the Championship and I’m not convinced you couldn’t get that move direct from Sweden. And if you’re wanting into the EPL then the Championship is a better place to be than up here.

[bingo70]

I dont think there's anything in moving to Scotland that makes it easier to make it in the EPL, there are many more players move there from other countries than do from Scotland, even to lower divisions.

Once upon a time you could maybe argue there was comparibles in terms of style of football between Scottish and English football that would potentially prepare him for English football better by coming here first. I don’t watch much English football now but with all the foreign influence I’m guessing that’s not the case so much any more.

[GreenCastle]

Can’t see us signing a 17 year old for 700k.

The player who may have talent doesn’t score many goals for a striker looking at his stats.

At the end of the day if he was really that good bigger clubs would be already making offers.

Just over 2 weeks in the window - surprised we haven’t added yet but will remain patient and hope we can add quality to improve the starting team. Still think it’s really risky if we don’t add another GK.

[JohnM1875]

Mental that £720k is approaching the highest few we’ve paid for a player and its a bid we’re matching Djurgardens on.

[JohnM1875]

Can’t see us signing a 17 year old for 700k.

The player who may have talent doesn’t score many goals for a striker looking at his stats.

At the end of the day if he was really that good bigger clubs would be already making offers.

Just over 2 weeks in the window - surprised we haven’t added yet but will remain patient and hope we can add quality to improve the starting team. Still think it’s really risky if we don’t add another GK.

The 17 year old is a holding midfielder, not a striker.

[easty]

Can’t see us signing a 17 year old for 700k.

The player who may have talent doesn’t score many goals for a striker looking at his stats.

At the end of the day if he was really that good bigger clubs would be already making offers.

Just over 2 weeks in the window - surprised we haven’t added yet but will remain patient and hope we can add quality to improve the starting team. Still think it’s really risky if we don’t add another GK.

Nah I don't think so either. We shouldn't be spending that money on a 17 year old anyway.

[B.H.F.C]

I’d be astounded if we paid that type of money for a 17 year old.

[GreenCastle]

The 17 year old is a holding midfielder, not a striker.

Oh is he ? Thought he was a striker! My mistake.

[Centre Hawf]

My only thought on us actually bidding 700k for him is that maybe this is where the Luke McCowan money is going to? We'll obviously be expecting a huge return on that £700k and I'd imagine it'll come from the Gordon's with a view of them getting it back when he's sold. That's if it's our own venture into signing him.

[matty_f]

I wonder if there are work permit advantages to him signing for us if he wants to find himself in the EPL eventually?

I don’t know the ins and outs of the criteria so it might be irrelevant.

I wonder if we’re also a useful way for Bournemouth to navigate FFP rules, maybe not for this transfer at £700k but assuming they don’t see him as first team ready for now, they have a chance to bring him into the group as a Hibs signing, then in a year or two sign him for buttons Bournemouth so it doesn’t hit their FFP limits.

[Centre Hawf]

I wonder if there are work permit advantages to him signing for us if he wants to find himself in the EPL eventually?

I don’t know the ins and outs of the criteria so it might be irrelevant.

I wonder if we’re also a useful way for Bournemouth to navigate FFP rules, maybe not for this transfer at £700k but assuming they don’t see him as first team ready for now, they have a chance to bring him into the group as a Hibs signing, then in a year or two sign him for buttons Bournemouth so it doesn’t hit their FFP limits.

I think it is somewhat easier to get what is called a Governing Body Endorsement from the SFA than it is the FA/Premier League that goes towards your visa application. So in theory yes it could be an advantage for Bournemouth to help us sign a 17 year old Finnish youth international in the hope he cements himself as a full international by playing here and moving within 2 or 3 seasons to get a permit to play in England.

[erin go bragh]

Mental that £720k is approaching the highest few we’ve paid for a player and its a bid we’re matching Djurgardens on.

Sure when we re signed Boyle it cost 1.5m as we didn't receive that amount they still had to pay.

[Hibees1973]

I’d be astounded if we paid that type of money for a 17 year old.

Given what's gone on last few years, I wouldn't.

[Souter96Mac]

It's a significant fee for such a young player - but this sort of transfers looks exactly what/why we have the partnership with Bournemouth. It'll be a signing driven by them, one that they see/hope as having the potential to feature for their first team - but getting him in the door at Hibs first to cut his teeth and develop first.

[Since452]

A 17 year old isn't really who I want us signing. Not for 700k. I thought we were done with expensive projects. Will Bournemouth want us to shoehorn him in the team? Could be really disruptive.

[tonyrougier123]

I wonder if there are work permit advantages to him signing for us if he wants to find himself in the EPL eventually?

I don’t know the ins and outs of the criteria so it might be irrelevant.

I wonder if we’re also a useful way for Bournemouth to navigate FFP rules, maybe not for this transfer at £700k but assuming they don’t see him as first team ready for now, they have a chance to bring him into the group as a Hibs signing, then in a year or two sign him for buttons Bournemouth so it doesn’t hit their FFP limits.
I think you could be spot on here Matty.
The player is first team ready for men’s football but wouldn’t initially break into Bournemouths first team, but would play a lot of games in hibs midfield before a move to the cherries. Cleary homework been done on the boy when the outlay is considered.

[04Sauzee]

I think you could be spot on here Matty.
The player is first team ready for men’s football but wouldn’t initially break into Bournemouths first team, but would play a lot of games in hibs midfield before a move to the cherries. Cleary homework been done on the boy when the outlay is considered.

He doesn't even have to go to Bournemouth from Hibs tbh, he could play games for Hibs, become a full Internationalist and go to a number of other big clubs for a hefty fee. I'm still not convinced we will see him at Easter Road although I'm not against the idea.

[Springbank]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

[matty_f]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

Good post, I agree with you.

[Ray_]

A 17 year old isn't really who I want us signing. Not for 700k. I thought we were done with expensive projects. Will Bournemouth want us to shoehorn him in the team? Could be really disruptive.

I remember Alex Cropley and John Brownlie at 17, the latter made his Scotland debut at 19. Joe Baker's Scottish Cup goals against the best ever Hearts team wasn't too shabby either, for a 17 year-old.

Wayne Rooney scored at ER, the fact he was 16 didn't prevent him from doing that. Sometimes we just get too negative on here.

[JohnM1875]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

Finnish league is a much lower standard than here though. All the stats in the reports are based against players in that league.

Also looks like a lot of the league have plastic pitches, which means the games slower and you have more time on the ball. Just checked and 7 out of the 12 have ‘artificial turf’ and the rest ‘artificial grass’

Have to admit, I'm sceptical.

[GloryGlory]

I think you could be spot on here Matty.
The player is first team ready for men’s football but wouldn’t initially break into Bournemouths first team, but would play a lot of games in hibs midfield before a move to the cherries. Cleary homework been done on the boy when the outlay is considered.

I wonder if that meeting where Kensell and Gordon went to meet the BKG included transfer targets and how they would be financed on the agenda? No info but just speculating.

[Since452]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

Fair point

[J-C]

Doig was 17 when he came to Hibs and played 2 seasons before he got his big move at 19, Lennon Miller quoted around £3-4m. If they're at a certain level, then that's the going rate.

[TrinityHFC]

Usual suspects painting anything to do with Hibs as a negative.

[tamig]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

Correct. You only need to look at Haaland when he was at Molde.

[Onion]

I remember Alex Cropley and John Brownlie at 17, the latter made his Scotland debut at 19. Joe Baker's Scottish Cup goals against the best ever Hearts team wasn't too shabby either, for a 17 year-old.

Wayne Rooney scored at ER, the fact he was 16 didn't prevent him from doing that. Sometimes we just get too negative on here.

Not sure it's negativity, just scepticism. Crops, Onion and Baker were discovered in a very different era. Rooney was an exceptional talent.

[Centre Hawf]

Doig was 17 when he came to Hibs and played 2 seasons before he got his big move at 19, Lennon Miller quoted around £3-4m. If they're at a certain level, then that's the going rate.

This is the way football is going now. No one wants to pay hefty fees for players that either won't play more than 5-7 years at that club in their prime or give them a return on their investment. It's an arms race to hoover up young talent at speed as opposed to chasing 27-29 year olds that are proven successes. At least at the top level.

[Unseen work]

Doig was 17 when he came to Hibs and played 2 seasons before he got his big move at 19, Lennon Miller quoted around £3-4m. If they're at a certain level, then that's the going rate.

Good point re Miller, if Hibs had the chance to sign him in the summer for 759k I’d have been screaming for them to do it

Hopefully this lad is similar quality

[easty]

I disagree with everyone saying you don't pay X for someone who is 17 years old

With an exciting talent - with international recognition and European club football experience already under his belt - you have a track record to look at that maybe wasn't the case with the Melkersons and Hauges. Not every one will work but the time to make your move is now - wait 2 years and he will be well outwith reach.

Lennon Miller - at 17 - is someone I would have spent £3m on last summer and been confident of turning a profit in 2 years time.

Age is nothing but a number

Does he have international recognition? U19 caps, do you count that?

[Ribs1875]

Let's not forget, Bobby Williamson was fielding 16,17,18 and 19s year olds, who majority all went on to net us enough money to build a training facility and east stand.

[Northernhibee]

Usual suspects painting anything to do with Hibs as a negative.

Can you point to these posts? All I can see is a debate on whether or not to spend £700k on a 17 year old and whether or not we think the club may do that.

Otherwise these “usual suspects” posts have become tedious and only provide clutter.

[SHODAN]

I would really prefer we spent that sort of money on a much older player.

[easty]

Not all 17 year olds are like Rooney, Haaland, Lennon Miller. Just becuase they were good enough young doesn't mean a single thing for this new guy.

We paid money (6 figures is what I remember reading) to get Reuben McCallister, apparently he was great tae. Premier League teams were after him. That's looking like money well spent eh.

We need to improve the team for now, not for a few years down the line. Get the Hibs team that can play now to the standard that we're up in 3rd place, then start bringing in players for potential.

I just think spending a big chunk of our transfer budget on potential is stupid, and it's what we wasted a couple of seasons on not so long ago.

[Real Emerald]

It would also be a good way of getting money into Hibs without actually giving it to us. BK finance £700k transfer to Hibs, leaves Hibs for Bournemouth in 2 years for say £5m, Bournemouth maybe turn him into a £20m player. Hibs get £5m to spend from facilitating the move and Bournemouth get a £20m player. Win win. Just a thought.

Or whatever figures you care to use.

[Hibernian Verse]

Not all 17 year olds are like Rooney, Haaland, Lennon Miller. Just becuase they were good enough young doesn't mean a single thing for this new guy.

We paid money (6 figures is what I remember reading) to get Reuben McCallister, apparently he was great tae. Premier League teams were after him. That's looking like money well spent eh.

We need to improve the team for now, not for a few years down the line. Get the Hibs team that can play now to the standard that we're up in 3rd place, then start bringing in players for potential.

I just think spending a big chunk of our transfer budget on potential is stupid, and it's what we wasted a couple of seasons on not so long ago.

What I would say re this is that we now have different people doing the recruitment. Ian Gordon signed the Assistant's laddie, we're not going down that route with Garvan Stewart I hope.

[Springbank]

If you look at Reuben McAllister and reach the conclusion "never sign a player player under 20 because of that one experience" then get ready for a decade of bang average players

The point is - not all will work out

But had Reuben McAllister played European football, or had international recognition?
Has this guy?
Do our more experienced scouting and recruitment staff feel it's value?

The way teams like Hibs and Aberdeen will make the next steps is exactly by investing in potential and turning a tenfold profit - see Miovski, McGinn etc

[Murphys Touch]

So many variables at that age can change and derail development. We've seem plenty of examples and some would argue the writer of this post is one too! :dummytit:

I just don't think the club or the league in general is a good place for someone like this to develop. The league is fast pace, full of bang average players and on poor surfaces (sometimes). It is highly a bed of high/elite level athletes. The constant changing of coaches and lack of off the park strategy and real investment all points to the fact the player is not in a great environment to reach their potential.....throw in the weather and other social difficulties.

It would need to be a real real generational talent to come to a mid-table scottish club at 17, excel physically and technically to then demand a multimillion £ move.

I'd much rather Hibs sign players for the team NOW and really cement top 4 spots annually. Then we will have an all round better environment for developing players for mid table English clubs

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you look at Reuben McAllister and reach the conclusion "never sign a player player under 20 because of that one experience" then get ready for a decade of bang average players

The point is - not all will work out

But had Reuben McAllister played European football, or had international recognition?
Has this guy?
Do our more experienced scouting and recruitment staff feel it's value?

The way teams like Hibs and Aberdeen will make the next steps is exactly by investing in potential and turning a tenfold profit - see Miovski, McGinn etc

Of course. Likewise though, if you look at Lennon Miller, Wayne Rooney and Scott Brown and think it’s definitely a good idea to sign young players because of how good they were then you’ll also likely be disappointed.

Reality is that there’ll be some who are good enough, some who aren’t, some who may develop into being good enough and some who may not.

[Alex Trager]

If you look at Reuben McAllister and reach the conclusion "never sign a player player under 20 because of that one experience" then get ready for a decade of bang average players

The point is - not all will work out

But had Reuben McAllister played European football, or had international recognition?
Has this guy?
Do our more experienced scouting and recruitment staff feel it's value?

The way teams like Hibs and Aberdeen will make the next steps is exactly by investing in potential and turning a tenfold profit - see Miovski, McGinn etc
Speaking of, SJM won the LC at 18.

[Unseen work]

It would also be a good way of getting money into Hibs without actually giving it to us. BK finance £700k transfer to Hibs, leaves Hibs for Bournemouth in 2 years for say £5m, Bournemouth maybe turn him into a £20m player. Hibs get £5m to spend from facilitating the move and Bournemouth get a £20m player. Win win. Just a thought.

Or whatever figures you care to use.

I did wonder if it would be a structured deal with BK/Bournemouth

For example they bankroll the 750k for us to sign him.

Conditions in place that they have first dibs on him and for a certain price, say 3 million

[jeffers]

I did wonder if it would be a structured deal with BK/Bournemouth

For example they bankroll the 750k for us to sign him.

Conditions in place that they have first dibs on him and for a certain price, say 3 million

Is that not the type of arrangement we mocked Hearts for potentially having with Bloom ?

[Unseen work]

Is that not the type of arrangement we mocked Hearts for potentially having with Bloom ?

Some potentially did, but if we had a structured deal like that I’d be happy with it

No risk for us as fee is paid, conditions in place saying Bournemouth can sign him after x amount of time but they need to pay x amount then i’d say that’s fair and a good business model

[JohnM1875]

Some potentially did, but if we had a structured deal like that I’d be happy with it

No risk for us as fee is paid, conditions in place saying Bournemouth can sign him after x amount of time but they need to pay x amount then i’d say that’s fair and a good business model

Wonder if any deal like that would also include an sell on, so if he does go for decent money again then both clubs would benefit from it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Some potentially did, but if we had a structured deal like that I’d be happy with it

No risk for us as fee is paid, conditions in place saying Bournemouth can sign him after x amount of time but they need to pay x amount then i’d say that’s fair and a good business model

:agree:

Hibs are the big winners in that scenario for me. Players paid for by someone else and a buyer already lined up to give us a reasonable profit further down the line. Don’t see why it would be a bad thing.

[Centre Hawf]

:agree:

Hibs are the big winners in that scenario for me. Players paid for by someone else and a buyer already lined up to give us a reasonable profit further down the line. Don’t see why it would be a bad thing.

Agreed. Even if in this example we get less than what you could on a so called 'open market' if we're not assuming any of the real risk then we can only really benefit.

[GreenPJ]

:agree:

Hibs are the big winners in that scenario for me. Players paid for by someone else and a buyer already lined up to give us a reasonable profit further down the line. Don’t see why it would be a bad thing.

Just don't see that structure being in place whilst Black Knights only have 25% of the club. As you say winner for Hibs but don't see them agreeing to that much upside for Hibs with a 25% stake.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just don't see that structure being in place whilst Black Knights only have 25% of the club. As you say winner for Hibs but don't see them agreeing to that much upside for Hibs with a 25% stake.

There’s a suggestion that it could help them get around work permit issues and get players into the group. If that’s the case then they may well look at £700k here and there as being well worth handing over to get players that they (and other EPL teams) possibly couldn’t pick up at that point in time and allow them to be ahead of the curve in that respect.

[Pete70]

I did wonder if it would be a structured deal with BK/Bournemouth

For example they bankroll the 750k for us to sign him.

Conditions in place that they have first dibs on him and for a certain price, say 3 million

Or, fund it ourselves and sell him to anyone we like for £5m. :greengrin

[Silky]

I would really prefer we spent that sort of money on a much older player.

I don't know. I've seen many, many bang average older players come through the revolving door at ER and thought "we could have spent money on a younger player". You only need to look at threads on here to see that virtually all of our "older" players are "bang average", "p1sh", not Hibs level etc. So why not. On the evidence I've seen over the years, there's nothing to suggest an older player will be any better than a younger one. If we don't sign them, someone else will - then we'll all be on here slagging off the club for another missed opportunity!!

[Gmack7]

I don't know. I've seen many, many bang average older players come through the revolving door at ER and thought "we could have spent money on a younger player". You only need to look at threads on here to see that virtually all of our "older" players are "bang average", "p1sh", not Hibs level etc. So why not. On the evidence I've seen over the years, there's nothing to suggest an older player will be any better than a younger one. If we don't sign them, someone else will - then we'll all be on here slagging off the club for another missed opportunity!!

David platt from crewe vibes, get it done

[A Hi-Bee]

I am starting to change my own outlook on football managers, as they must have got to where they are after beating thousands of expert other managers, so I am leaving this transfer stuff to the ones that know a wee bit more than me.
Hibs will bring in the players they think are right for Hibs.
:thumbsup:

[04Sauzee]

Motherwell looking to sign a striker

EXCLUSIVE! Luke Armstrong is Motherwell transfer target as Stuart Kettlewell looks to add firepower for top six push | @ScottBurns75

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

[Donegal Hibby]

Another article about Matias Stilanen …

https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/transfers/hibs-make-735k-bid-for-finland-u19-wonderkid-amid-competition-from-sweden/

[04Sauzee]

Now I know this site is Swedish but their take is that Djurgårdens are firm favourites.

https://fotbolldirekt-se.translate.goog/silly-season/avslojar-forvirringen-kring-siltanen-men-fordel-djurgarden/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB

[JohnM1875]

Now I know this site is Swedish but their take is that Djurgårdens are firm favourites.

https://fotbolldirekt-se.translate.goog/silly-season/avslojar-forvirringen-kring-siltanen-men-fordel-djurgarden/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB

Sounds like it was a done deal until we got involved and its now down the player to make the decision. Could be reading it wrong mind you.

[Ringothedog]

Speaking of, SJM won the LC at 18.

Who did they beat in the final?

[Ray_]

Not sure it's negativity, just scepticism. Crops, Onion and Baker were discovered in a very different era. Rooney was an exceptional talent.

Plenty of other more recent examples, some of which are being highlighted. The big difference in the era the 18-team league provided a cushion to allow clubs the confidence to play young players. The top flight benefitted enormously, with just about every team in the league developing young stars, that stood out in their team and made them a magnet for the bigger clubs at home and down south.

The league may be far smaller now, but the resources we have now, compared to then, give Hibs an advantage over most of our SPL rivals and should make us more resilient to taking chances with young players.

[easty]

If you look at Reuben McAllister and reach the conclusion "never sign a player player under 20 because of that one experience" then get ready for a decade of bang average players

The point is - not all will work out

But had Reuben McAllister played European football, or had international recognition?
Has this guy?
Do our more experienced scouting and recruitment staff feel it's value?

The way teams like Hibs and Aberdeen will make the next steps is exactly by investing in potential and turning a tenfold profit - see Miovski, McGinn etc

Clearly I'm not saying that though am I? It's a counter point to people pointing out Rooney and Haaland as examples of how signing young players work.

He doesn't have international recognition. He's played for the U19s, that doesnae count.

Rudi Molotnikov has U19 caps for Scotland and has played in European football. It doesn't mean a player is ready to be a key player for Hibs. A £700k player has to be a key player in our team.

Obviously the aim for Hibs is to invest and make a profit, but Miovski and McGinn were nothing like this potential signing. Miovski was in his mid 20's and had just been playing international football at the World Cup, McGinn was 20, had 3 seasons and a league cup win under his belt. Nothing like a 17 year old who's played half a season in Finlands top league.

[GloryGlory]

I hope if we are bidding serious money for Siltanen that we don't faff about until the last seconds of the transfer window like we did with McCowan. Get the deal done or move on to another target.

[badabing67]

Who did they beat in the final?


Oh I love a quiz...... Was it the Bigglies from Embra

[flash]

https://snsgroupportal.co.uk/fotoweb/archives/5002-SNS-Images/Archived%20Images/SPEC/2025/01/25011702/21274976.jpg.info#c=%2Ffotoweb%2Farchives%2F5002-SNS-Images%2F%3Fq%3DHibs

Probably having a brain freeze but who's the guy two behind Josh Campbell?

[gbhibby]

Who did they beat in the final?
The serial league cup losers.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

https://snsgroupportal.co.uk/fotoweb/archives/5002-SNS-Images/Archived%20Images/SPEC/2025/01/25011702/21274976.jpg.info#c=%2Ffotoweb%2Farchives%2F5002-SNS-Images%2F%3Fq%3DHibs

Probably having a brain freeze but who's the guy two behind Josh Campbell?
Luke Amos maybe.

[flash]

Luke Amos maybe.

The guy at the back isn't Amos.

[CapitalGreen]

https://snsgroupportal.co.uk/fotoweb/archives/5002-SNS-Images/Archived%20Images/SPEC/2025/01/25011702/21274976.jpg.info#c=%2Ffotoweb%2Farchives%2F5002-SNS-Images%2F%3Fq%3DHibs

Probably having a brain freeze but who's the guy two behind Josh Campbell?

Triantis

[flash]

Triantis

Sorry the guy behind him.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

The guy at the back isn't Amos.

Iredale then :)

[Unseen work]

Sorry the guy behind him.

You mean last in line?

No idea, don’t recognise him

[flash]

Iredale then :)

The black guy at the back......

[Alex Trager]

Iredale then :)

Think he means the black guy.

Is it Marv? Doesn’t look like him mind.

[Unseen work]

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