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Callum_62
23-01-2025, 06:41 PM
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04Sauzee
23-01-2025, 06:52 PM
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JohnM1875
23-01-2025, 06:55 PM
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Meh, his loss. Could have joined the Hibees!

CentreForward
23-01-2025, 07:34 PM
To be honest Siltanen will probably never be heard of again and won’t even make it anywhere near the big time.

jeffers
23-01-2025, 07:39 PM
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Reported. Requested you got a ban for posting that image. :fuming:

Edinburgh Green
24-01-2025, 05:43 AM
To be honest Siltanen will probably never be heard of again and won’t even make it anywhere near the big time.

That’s a bold statement. What are you basing that on?

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 06:57 AM
That’s a bold statement. What are you basing that on?

Its just a guess but a pretty decent one. Happens to the majority of these players on these wonderkid lists.

MacGruber
24-01-2025, 07:03 AM
That's Rangers being reported in some media as looking at Josh Mulligan aswell as Cameron now. Maybe we would never have got him if behind the scenes (like McCowan) he knew of Rangers interest but would have loved us to have made a play for him day one of the window. Was an absolute no brainer - unless of course we knew there was already no chance

easty
24-01-2025, 07:24 AM
That's Rangers being reported in some media as looking at Josh Mulligan aswell as Cameron now. Maybe we would never have got him if behind the scenes (like McCowan) he knew of Rangers interest but would have loved us to have made a play for him day one of the window. Was an absolute no brainer - unless of course we knew there was already no chance

If Rangers sign both those players then I’ll not be particularly disappointed. That’ll just tell me that the gap between us closing rather than increasing.

McCowan was the obvious star in that team last season. Cameron looks good, but not to the level McCowan was at, and I genuinely think Mulligan is nowt special at all.

badabing67
24-01-2025, 07:37 AM
If Rangers sign both those players then I’ll not be particularly disappointed. That’ll just tell me that the gap between us closing rather than increasing.

McCowan was the obvious star in that team last season. Cameron looks good, but not to the level McCowan was at, and I genuinely think Mulligan is nowt special at all.


Agree with this

S4uzee
24-01-2025, 08:46 AM
If Rangers sign both those players then I’ll not be particularly disappointed. That’ll just tell me that the gap between us closing rather than increasing.

McCowan was the obvious star in that team last season. Cameron looks good, but not to the level McCowan was at, and I genuinely think Mulligan is nowt special at all.

Totally agree. Happy for Rangers to have a midfield of Cameron, Mulligan and Barron.

Mcbizz1998
24-01-2025, 08:55 AM
The lack of signings is getting a bit odd now tbh. I appreciate we are trying to get the right players in but we are just about the only club in the league who haven’t managed it yet. Pretty disappointing when we have a chance to push for Europe. Would have been good to get players in before RC away.

Is Newell back this week? And Youan?

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 09:02 AM
The lack of signings is getting a bit odd now tbh. I appreciate we are trying to get the right players in but we are just about the only club in the league who haven’t managed it yet. Pretty disappointing when we have a chance to push for Europe. Would have been good to get players in before RC away.

Is Newell back this week? And Youan?

I think our next set of accounts will explain not only Kensell's departure but also our lack of strengthening in this window and cheap (Bowie aside) recruitment, on and off the pitch, in the Summer.

Really hoped we'd have bodies in for tomorrow, but yet another week has passed by with nothing.

easty
24-01-2025, 09:05 AM
I think our next set of accounts will explain not only Kensell's departure but also our lack of strengthening in this window and cheap (Bowie aside) recruitment, on and off the pitch, in the Summer.

Really hoped we'd have bodies in for tomorrow, but yet another week has passed by with nothing.

You cannae really say our summer transfer business was cheap aside from the big money we spent. It doesn’t make sense.

AlbertK86
24-01-2025, 09:11 AM
The lack of signings is getting a bit odd now tbh. I appreciate we are trying to get the right players in but we are just about the only club in the league who haven’t managed it yet. Pretty disappointing when we have a chance to push for Europe. Would have been good to get players in before RC away.

Is Newell back this week? And Youan?

Neither available according to reports yesterday


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scoopyboy
24-01-2025, 09:12 AM
You cannae really say our summer transfer business was cheap aside from the big money we spent. It doesn’t make sense.

Par for the course

The Modfather
24-01-2025, 09:18 AM
You cannae really say our summer transfer business was cheap aside from the big money we spent. It doesn’t make sense.

It did appear that the summer window was all about doing what we can as cheaply as possible. The start to the season and manner of the first few performances seems like it spooked us into having to spend money on the likes of Bowie we didn’t intend to, IMO, otherwise we were staring at another bottom 6 season, or worse.

CapitalGreen
24-01-2025, 09:22 AM
It did appear that the summer window was all about doing what we can as cheaply as possible. The start to the season and manner of the first few performances seems like it spooked us into having to spend money on the likes of Bowie we didn’t intend to, IMO, otherwise we were staring at another bottom 6 season, or worse.

We had already bid for both Bowie and McCowan before the first game of the league season.

badabing67
24-01-2025, 09:26 AM
Noticed this

Chicago Fire goalkeeper Chris Brady could be in line for a Scotland call up this year

The 20-year-old is eligible for Scottish citizenship and could pledge for Scotland after playing for USA in U15, U20 and U23 levels

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 09:28 AM
We had already bid for both Bowie and McCowan before the first game of the league season.

IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

stokesmessiah
24-01-2025, 09:30 AM
IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

You seriously think Hibs were messing about bidding up to that level for no reason?

The Modfather
24-01-2025, 09:31 AM
We had already bid for both Bowie and McCowan before the first game of the league season.

We bid for McCowan from before the 4th August? That makes the pursuit up until the last seconds of the window with no alternative even worse IMO. However looking at the dates and Bowie signing 4 days after the opening game fiasco I can accept it probably wasn’t the defeat that caused us to spend money on the team.

flash
24-01-2025, 09:32 AM
IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

Why would pretending to try to sign somebody appease a support that wants you to sign somebody?

CapitalGreen
24-01-2025, 09:35 AM
IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

That’s nonsense because pursuing him over their targets had the opposite effect of appeasing the support. Hibs made several bids for McCowan and had West Ham not rebuffed Celtic’s approach for Andy Irving at the 11th hour on deadline day McCowan would currently be playing for Hibs.

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 09:37 AM
Why would pretending to try to sign somebody appease a support that wants you to sign somebody?

Gives the illusion that they were trying to do something and were prepared to spend money, when it wasn't ever really the case.

Once Celtic were involved, it was an utter waste of time getting involved in a bidding war with them.

It's no coincidence to me that we didn't have a plan B, or that we've yet to see any of that supposed money being used in January.

That opinion will rile you and others, but it’s what I believe and I'm fairly certain that a depressing set of accounts at the next AGM could be used to support that argument.

CapitalGreen
24-01-2025, 09:41 AM
Gives the illusion that they were trying to do something and were prepared to spend money, when it wasn't ever really the case.

Once Celtic were involved, it was an utter waste of time getting involved in a bidding war with them.

It's no coincidence to me that we didn't have a plan B, or that we've yet to see any of the money being used in January.

That opinion will rile you and others, but it’s what I believe and I'm fairly certain that a depressing set of accounts at the next AGM could be used to support that argument.

We were never in a bidding war with Celtic, Celtic didn’t bid until very late on transfer deadline day after their preferred choice was no longer an option.

FYI, your opinion doesn’t rile it’s just factually wrong.

weecounty hibby
24-01-2025, 09:42 AM
Hibs - Hi Dundee, we want McCowan and we will pay you £1m
Dundee - ok then, he's yours
Hibs - ****! How do we get out of that

Sounds plausible.

Some folk will believe the worst of Hibs before any facts are produced. Even after facts are produced sometimes. We now have, based on some random on Facebook, folk adamant that we will show a £7m loss for last year. It may end up to be true, I hope not, but so many are determined that everything Hibs do is *****

Bobby's Cinema
24-01-2025, 09:44 AM
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The face of a man questioning every decision he's ever made. By the way he is a long way from the worst manager we've had.... But back to the Sunderland forums for a good laugh.

"Didn't he say we'd won the game between the boxes when we lost 2 nowt? Lunatic"

Hibs boss Lee Johnson after their 1-0 defeat to Dundee United:

"I can't be too displeased with the performance, on the data - percentile wise, it was a win, although it wasn't.".

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 09:46 AM
Hibs - Hi Dundee, we want McCowan and we will pay you £1m
Dundee - ok then, he's yours
Hibs - ****! How do we get out of that

Sounds plausible.

Some folk will believe the worst of Hibs before any facts are produced. Even after facts are produced sometimes. We now have, based on some random on Facebook, folk adamant that we will show a £7m loss for last year. It may end up to be true, I hope not, but so many are determined that everything Hibs do is *****

We didn't bit £1mil though. I get the point about trying to get the best deal possible. But if, as some suggested at the time, we knew Dundee were looking for £1mil, we should have paid it and got our number 1 target.

No point releasing videos after the window closes saying we were willing to spend. Do it.

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 09:52 AM
We were never in a bidding war with Celtic, Celtic didn’t bid until very late on transfer deadline day after their preferred choice was no longer an option.

FYI, your opinion doesn’t rile it’s just factually wrong.

You speak as if your opinion is fact, you hold an opinion that is different from mine, that is all.

We'd all heard for a long while prior about Celtic's interest in McCowan and I fail to believe nobody at ER wasn't aware of it either.

Our own transfer thread on here shows that.

That was the time to move onto other targets, yet we were supposedly still placing increased bids for him on deadline day, the same day Celtic were already making an offer.

Let's get spending some of that available money now then and make a real effort at securing group stage European football (the last chance for a long while).

easty
24-01-2025, 09:55 AM
You speak as if your opinion is fact, you hold an opinion that is different from mine, that is all.

Not all opinions deserve the same respect.

USA_Hibee
24-01-2025, 10:00 AM
Hibs conspiracy theorists and those who take hibs.net rumours as fact will always be unhappy with Hibs.

JimBHibees
24-01-2025, 10:01 AM
Why would pretending to try to sign somebody appease a support that wants you to sign somebody?

It wouldn't it would get folks hopes up and be more annoyed when he didn't come.

worcesterhibby
24-01-2025, 10:03 AM
We didn't bit £1mil though. I get the point about trying to get the best deal possible. But if, as some suggested at the time, we knew Dundee were looking for £1mil, we should have paid it and got our number 1 target.

No point releasing videos after the window closes saying we were willing to spend. Do it.

We did a lot of excellent business in the last transfer window and we did spend money.

Nicky Cadden
Dwight Gayle
Jack Iredale
Nectar Triantos

Have all been big successes and have improved the team and been first team regulars

Ekpiteta was looking very solid before his injury
OHora has been ok...maybe not improved us, but I don't think he has made us worse either
Smith has done an excellent job since he has come into the team
Hoilett has been OK.. some very good moments but not amazing.. pass marks

Both Myko and Kwon.. are loans that the majority of the Hibs support thought were excellent moves.. neither has really worked out as we would have hoped but both have contributed

Bowie looked excellent before getting injured on Scotland duty...high hopes there

which leaves us with Bursik... who was a poor loan and not up to standard

So that's 12 in... at least 700K spent in transfers...a good deal more invested in wages

4 big hits
4 decents
1 Injured but high hopes
2 loans that are a bit meh
1 loan that's been poor

That's a decent return

Then we did everything we could to bring in a real Game-changer of a midfielder in McCowan.. but because Celtic, missed out on another signing on the final day we failed. It happens.

Who needs hearts fans when so many Hibs supporters seem to spend half their time finding reasons to slate Hibs.

Mcbizz1998
24-01-2025, 10:04 AM
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Extremely frustrating. Newell was supposed to be close but as usual it just seems to be another week added every time.

Any news on N. Cadden?

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 10:08 AM
We did a lot of excellent business in the last transfer window and we did spend money.

Nicky Cadden
Dwight Gayle
Jack Iredale
Nectar Triantos

Have all been big successes and have improved the team and been first team regulars

Ekpiteta was looking very solid before his injury
OHora has been ok...maybe not improved us, but I don't think he has made us worse either
Smith has done an excellent job since he has come into the team
Hoilett has been OK.. some very good moments but not amazing.. pass marks

Both Myko and Kwon.. are loans that the majority of the Hibs support thought were excellent moves.. neither has really worked out as we would have hoped but both have contributed

Bowie looked excellent before getting injured on Scotland duty...high hopes there

which leaves us with Bursik... who was a poor loan and not up to standard

So that's 12 in... at least 700K spent in transfers...a good deal more invested in wages

4 big hits
4 decents
1 Injured but high hopes
2 loans that are a bit meh
1 loan that's been poor

That's a decent return

Then we did everything we could to bring in a real Game-changer of a midfielder in McCowan.. but because Celtic, missed out on another signing on the final day we failed. It happens.

Who needs hearts fans when so many Hibs supporters seem to spend half their time finding reasons to slate Hibs.

We did everything we could but bid their asking price. Then released a video saying we were willing to spend.

I wasn't talking about the transfer window as a whole. I think we made some good signings.

MacGruber
24-01-2025, 10:13 AM
Extremely frustrating. Newell was supposed to be close but as usual it just seems to be another week added every time.

Any news on N. Cadden?

He has had surgery and has the mask and is quoted as being available for County 👍

tug.lismore
24-01-2025, 10:17 AM
We were never in a bidding war with Celtic, Celtic didn’t bid until very late on transfer deadline day after their preferred choice was no longer an option.

FYI, your opinion doesn’t rile it’s just factually wrong.Not in his head it isn't

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Blaster
24-01-2025, 10:19 AM
We did everything we could but bid their asking price. Then released a video saying we were willing to spend.

I wasn't talking about the transfer window as a whole. I think we made some good signings.

They told Hibs they weren’t selling whilst Celtic were still in the picture. They knew that was his preferred team too. The only criticism for me was no plan b

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 10:33 AM
Not in his head it isn't

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I'll take you back to 2007 when we tried a similar trick 'bidding' over a million pounds for Naismith.

may 21/05/2016
24-01-2025, 10:37 AM
We did a lot of excellent business in the last transfer window and we did spend money.

Nicky Cadden
Dwight Gayle
Jack Iredale
Nectar Triantos

Have all been big successes and have improved the team and been first team regulars

Ekpiteta was looking very solid before his injury
OHora has been ok...maybe not improved us, but I don't think he has made us worse either
Smith has done an excellent job since he has come into the team
Hoilett has been OK.. some very good moments but not amazing.. pass marks

Both Myko and Kwon.. are loans that the majority of the Hibs support thought were excellent moves.. neither has really worked out as we would have hoped but both have contributed

Bowie looked excellent before getting injured on Scotland duty...high hopes there

which leaves us with Bursik... who was a poor loan and not up to standard

So that's 12 in... at least 700K spent in transfers...a good deal more invested in wages

4 big hits
4 decents
1 Injured but high hopes
2 loans that are a bit meh
1 loan that's been poor

That's a decent return

Then we did everything we could to bring in a real Game-changer of a midfielder in McCowan.. but because Celtic, missed out on another signing on the final day we failed. It happens.

Who needs hearts fans when so many Hibs supporters seem to spend half their time finding reasons to slate Hibs.Agree

04Sauzee
24-01-2025, 10:37 AM
Motherwell sign GK Ellery Balcombe and forward Luke Armstrong.

mcfly
24-01-2025, 10:38 AM
Gives the illusion that they were trying to do something and were prepared to spend money, when it wasn't ever really the case.

Once Celtic were involved, it was an utter waste of time getting involved in a bidding war with them.

It's no coincidence to me that we didn't have a plan B, or that we've yet to see any of that supposed money being used in January.

That opinion will rile you and others, but it’s what I believe and I'm fairly certain that a depressing set of accounts at the next AGM could be used to support that argument.

Do you ever have anything positive to say about hibs?

What about the transformation in the team?
What about the positive atmosphere within the stadium?
What about Martin Boyles recent burst of goals?

Nah let’s just have a pop at every opportunity

Poor show …

worcesterhibby
24-01-2025, 10:41 AM
They told Hibs they weren’t selling whilst Celtic were still in the picture. They knew that was his preferred team too. The only criticism for me was no plan b

There was no other PROVEN SPFL midfielder of the standard of McCowan available. This was before Garvan was in the building and maybe the Gordons had realised they really weren't capable of identifying an alternative that they were willing to spend around a £Million quid on that would be plucked from another league and might not work and therefore become a spectacular waste of money.

I think the Gordons, egged on by Malky, saw McCowan as a unique opportunity... as close to a guaranteed success as you can get in football and they really tried to get him. But they had no second option, because what they were after was a PROVEN SPFL attacking midfielder of the right, age, experience, attitude and ability, price and available.

Personally I very glad they didn't then switch to some French second division alternative, who might have been total pony in the SPFL. I'd rather trust Garvan to do that sort of deal.

04Sauzee
24-01-2025, 10:45 AM
From the EEN

Hibs still hope to land at least two new players before the end of the January window, with former Barcelona prospect Alasana Manneh a prime target. But Gray admits that immediate activity is likely to be overshadowed by a massive squad overhaul come the close season.

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 10:53 AM
4th signing of the window announced by Hearts. Hope they're all pish.

The Modfather
24-01-2025, 11:03 AM
From the EEN

Hibs still hope to land at least two new players before the end of the January window, with former Barcelona prospect Alasana Manneh a prime target. But Gray admits that immediate activity is likely to be overshadowed by a massive squad overhaul come the close season.

It is very Hibs to manage expectations this window and talk up the summer window. Just in time for a push at 3rd the first season without guaranteed European group stage football. It’s almost destined for us to finish 3rd either side of guaranteed group stage football.

Unseen work
24-01-2025, 11:06 AM
This is torture

Thinking we can make it through to the end of the season and get Europe with this squad is a mistake imo

flash
24-01-2025, 11:09 AM
This is torture

Thinking we can make it through to the end of the season and get Europe with this squad is a mistake imo

Who said that and when?

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 11:12 AM
It is very Hibs to manage expectations this window and talk up the summer window. Just in time for a push at 3rd the first season without guaranteed European group stage football. It’s almost destined for us to finish 3rd either side of guaranteed group stage football.

It's always jam tomorrow with Hibs.

easty
24-01-2025, 11:12 AM
It's always jam tomorrow with Hibs.

We outspend almost all teams in the league almost every season

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 11:16 AM
Who said that and when?

Does anyone need to say anything?

Lack of signings would show they’re fairly content with a squad that's only just made it into the top six and is closer to 11th place than fourth.

flash
24-01-2025, 11:17 AM
Does anyone need to say anything?

Lack of signings would show they’re fairly content with a squad that's only just made it into the top six and is closer to 11th place than fourth.

Surely that's only a statement you can make after the window shuts?

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 11:18 AM
Surely that's only a statement you can make after the window shuts?

Nope. Can make it now as we haven't made a signing yet.

BoomtownHibees
24-01-2025, 11:20 AM
Nope. Can make it now as we haven't made a signing yet.

That doesn’t mean they’re content with the squad

JohnM1875
24-01-2025, 11:21 AM
That doesn’t mean they’re content with the squad

Fairly content.

I do actually think we’ll make signings, think someone posted an EEN quote saying Gray expects a few in and I don't think Gray is a liar.

Lago
24-01-2025, 11:22 AM
From the EEN

Hibs still hope to land at least two new players before the end of the January window, with former Barcelona prospect Alasana Manneh a prime target. But Gray admits that immediate activity is likely to be overshadowed by a massive squad overhaul come the close season.
Who saw that coming:greengrin

hibee316
24-01-2025, 11:25 AM
It's always jam tomorrow with Hibs.

What do you like about Hibs?

Sometimes it's good to highlight the positives when we are stuck in negative thinking :)

scoopyboy
24-01-2025, 11:35 AM
Do you ever have anything positive to say about hibs?

What about the transformation in the team?
What about the positive atmosphere within the stadium?
What about Martin Boyles recent burst of goals?

Nah let’s just have a pop at every opportunity

Poor show …

Reasonable questions but no reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we are hibs
24-01-2025, 11:39 AM
Did think we would have a midfielder in by now tbh.


The bench is still going to be weak tomorrow if we need to change it up in the middle. Levitt, Kwon, Amos and Moriah Welsh are hardly players you would look at and think they'll win us a game with a wee moment of magic, or alternatively they'll solidify us if we are trying to see a game out.

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justlikebrazil
24-01-2025, 11:44 AM
I fully expect a deadline day signing from the like of Forest Green and an 18 year old loan from the likes of Middleborough!!

Cat Stanton
24-01-2025, 11:50 AM
It's always jam tomorrow with Hibs.

More importantly, it's still Jan tomorrow too.

They are obviously trying to get in the right players. Every update from Gray makes that clear. But it's obviously difficult and taking time. But I'd rather they got in one or two good ones, than a whole a pile of cack ones a la Pat Fenton.

Bridge hibs
24-01-2025, 11:50 AM
This is torture

Thinking we can make it through to the end of the season and get Europe with this squad is a mistake imo

Torture ? 🤣

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 11:52 AM
Reasonable questions but no reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else.

I'll be up at Dingwall tomorrow supporting the club, as I am every week both home and away.

I've spoken openly about the improvement in our play/results/character these past couple of months, plus the improvement of players such as Triantis (a player I openly criticised at the start of the season).

None of that fits the narrative you're trying to build though.

goosefat
24-01-2025, 11:53 AM
I fully expect a deadline day signing from the like of Forest Green and an 18 year old loan from the likes of Middleborough!!

Don't forget that one will just be returning from an 8 month cruciate injury and will need 'a few weeks to get match fit'. The other will be pending an international work permit, which will only be granted in the last week of May.

Bridge hibs
24-01-2025, 11:55 AM
Does anyone need to say anything?

Lack of signings would show they’re fairly content with a squad that's only just made it into the top six and is closer to 11th place than fourth.

Or it could be we are working on things, why does no news from hibs always appear to be that we are doing nothing ? Same soggy drawers from folk every transfer window

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 11:55 AM
More importantly, it's still Jan tomorrow too.

They are obviously trying to get in the right players. Every update from Gray makes that clear. But it's obviously difficult and taking time. But I'd rather they got in one or two good ones, than a whole a pile of cack ones a la Pat Fenton.

I'd rather they did too, but there's this silly idea becoming prevalent that only Hibs are holding out for the right players etc, and everybody else is panic buying or buying rubbish full-stop.

That's just blinkered and complete nonsense.

Since452
24-01-2025, 11:57 AM
I fully expect a deadline day signing from the like of Forest Green and an 18 year old loan from the likes of Middleborough!!

Ah the teenager from Middlesbrough. Rivals the back up goalkeeper as the most exciting of signings.

greenlex
24-01-2025, 11:59 AM
It's always jam tomorrow with Hibs.
By very definition if we had jam right now we wouldn’t need it tomorrow.

SteveHFC
24-01-2025, 12:04 PM
From the EEN

Hibs still hope to land at least two new players before the end of the January window, with former Barcelona prospect Alasana Manneh a prime target. But Gray admits that immediate activity is likely to be overshadowed by a massive squad overhaul come the close season.

Hopefully we have players signed by next weekend. Concerning if we don’t.

hibsbollah
24-01-2025, 12:06 PM
By very definition if we had jam right now we wouldn’t need it tomorrow.

I don't like jam.

I also am completely relaxed about signings at this point. We've had the best sustained (almost two months now) run of form in recent memory, plus players due to return from injury that will be like new signings anyway, i'm struggling to see where the panic comes from. Plus theres still a week left.

Hibiza
24-01-2025, 12:26 PM
Think we could do a " James " late on and " sign someone , sign someone , anything " .

Tricla
24-01-2025, 12:28 PM
I don't like jam.

I also am completely relaxed about signings at this point. We've had the best sustained (almost two months now) run of form in recent memory, plus players due to return from injury that will be like new signings anyway, i'm struggling to see where the panic comes from. Plus theres still a week left.


Away with your measured, sense talking! :rules:

SHODAN
24-01-2025, 12:31 PM
Do not worry

The Signing will occur

erin go bragh
24-01-2025, 12:51 PM
I'd rather they did too, but there's this silly idea becoming prevalent that only Hibs are holding out for the right players etc, and everybody else is panic buying or buying rubbish full-stop.

That's just blinkered and complete nonsense.

Well, Celtic have the most money available and they have signed the same as us
And they have just sold Kyogo.
Maybe wait until the transfer window has closed before spouting your negativity.

Up-the-slope
24-01-2025, 12:52 PM
I don't like jam.

I also am completely relaxed about signings at this point. We've had the best sustained (almost two months now) run of form in recent memory, plus players due to return from injury that will be like new signings anyway, i'm struggling to see where the panic comes from. Plus theres still a week left.

Marmalade :agree:

As for the rest - stop with the factual balanced critic of current situation - not enough hyperbole to be allowed

sleeping giant
24-01-2025, 12:55 PM
Think we could do a " James " late on and " sign someone , sign someone , anything " .

That sounded better in your head I bet 🤣

Ship of Hope
24-01-2025, 12:58 PM
I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else.

I'll be up at Dingwall tomorrow supporting the club, as I am every week both home and away.

I've spoken openly about the improvement in our play/results/character these past couple of months, plus the improvement of players such as Triantis (a player I openly criticised at the start of the season).

None of that fits the narrative you're trying to build though.

Firstly, well done for being committed enough to support the team home and away! Whilst you don’t need to justify yourself for your opinions, it is fair to say that you tend to bump your gums about things that have not had a chance to play out as yet. Your own comments on Triantis would seem to back this up. As would moaning about a lack of signings prior to the window closing.

Like most hibs fans just now I google a few times a day in the hope of some transfer news to get excited about. I have little doubt that when we do make a signing or two, and I am confident we will, that you will in your glass half empty manner be on here pouring cold water on it. Once more my expectation will be that you will make an instant judgement rather than being optimistic and waiting to see how things pan out.

Personally I am happy to let the recruitment team do their thing and trust in their judgement. That has got to be better than wasting resources on signing players simply to satiate the fans lack of patience. I feel that when players sign early then they feel the team they are going to will be the best offer they will receive, otherwise they might be inclined to wait it out. To this end it may be we are trying to get a higher calibre player that also may be getting more lucrative offers elsewhere meaning we miss out. It is a difficult balance to get right and whilst the waiting for news can feel a bit torturous I am hopeful that between SDG, GS and Malky the best outcome possible will be achieved.

mcfly
24-01-2025, 01:00 PM
I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else.

I'll be up at Dingwall tomorrow supporting the club, as I am every week both home and away.

I've spoken openly about the improvement in our play/results/character these past couple of months, plus the improvement of players such as Triantis (a player I openly criticised at the start of the season).

None of that fits the narrative you're trying to build though.


Where is your proof of this positive narrative you say you have said.

All I see from you is negativity. Constant criticism of the club. It’s boring

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 01:03 PM
Well, Celtic have the most money available and they have signed the same as us
And they have just sold Kyogo.
Maybe wait until the transfer window has closed before spouting your negativity.

As I said the other day, the parallel between us and Celtic is frankly ridiculous.

They're miles ahead of us, and everyone else, in terms of quality and depth.

If we were top of the table, favourites to win the Scotttish Cup and in the knock-out stage of the Champions League, then I might give Hibs a bit more leeway.

Instead, we've had a disastrous start to the season, and despite a resurgence of late, I believe we need players in to challenge for 3rd, the cup, and the lucrative group stages of Europe (the last for a while).

It wouldn't take a drastic change of form to see us back in trouble either.

I don't think we'll be successful without the necessary additions to both quality and depth.

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 01:06 PM
Where is your proof of this positive narrative you say you have said.

All I see from you is negativity. Constant criticism of the club. It’s boring

What is this, ****ing court!

I don't need to provide proof to satisfy your needs, I know what I've said.

If you find it boring, then stick me on ignore.

Hibiza
24-01-2025, 01:15 PM
That sounded better in your head I bet 🤣

Definitely , yup. 😂

Bobby's Cinema
24-01-2025, 01:16 PM
What is this, ****ing court!

I don't need to provide proof to satisfy your needs, I know what I've said.

If you find it boring, then stick me on ignore.
:hilarious

hibsbollah
24-01-2025, 01:18 PM
That sounded better in your head I bet 🤣

At least he said Something

MacGruber
24-01-2025, 01:23 PM
As I said the other day, the parallel between us and Celtic is frankly ridiculous.

They're miles ahead of us, and everyone else, in terms of quality and depth.

If we were top of the table, favourites to win the Scotttish Cup and in the knock-out stage of the Champions League, then I might give Hibs a bit more leeway.

Instead, we've had a disastrous start to the season, and despite a resurgence of late, I believe we need players in to challenge for 3rd, the cup, and the lucrative group stages of Europe (the last for a while).

It wouldn't take a drastic change of form to see us back in trouble either.

I don't think we'll be successful without the necessary additions to both quality and depth.

Agree with all of that

Ship of Hope
24-01-2025, 01:26 PM
As I said the other day, the parallel between us and Celtic is frankly ridiculous.

They're miles ahead of us, and everyone else, in terms of quality and depth.

If we were top of the table, favourites to win the Scotttish Cup and in the knock-out stage of the Champions League, then I might give Hibs a bit more leeway.

Instead, we've had a disastrous start to the season, and despite a resurgence of late, I believe we need players in to challenge for 3rd, the cup, and the lucrative group stages of Europe (the last for a while).

It wouldn't take a drastic change of form to see us back in trouble either.

I don't think we'll be successful without the necessary additions to both quality and depth.

Maybe stop repeating things you have already said as that is boring and adds nothing new to the discussion.

To suggest you will only stop being so negative when hibs are top of the league or in champs league is frankly ridiculous and suggests you have totally unrealistic expectations.

We could also maintain or improve our current form with the same group of players.

Bobby's Cinema
24-01-2025, 01:27 PM
If we are going to see quality over quantity then I am all for it.

Signings that come in and improve what we have is what is needed here not more squad filler.

I'll stay patient...

scoopyboy
24-01-2025, 01:27 PM
I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else.

I'll be up at Dingwall tomorrow supporting the club, as I am every week both home and away.

I've spoken openly about the improvement in our play/results/character these past couple of months, plus the improvement of players such as Triantis (a player I openly criticised at the start of the season).

None of that fits the narrative you're trying to build though.

I'm not asking you to justify yourself.

You are to be commended that you support the club every week home and away, however that doesn't mean others cannot challenge you on your views and opinions, just the same as you challenge others.

I'm on here every day and I can't recall too many posts where you are supportive, the vast majority in my opinion are negative which again is your call.

Hibees1973
24-01-2025, 01:30 PM
Things have certainly spiced up in the last few pages.

Don't concern. The voice of reason has arrived.

I've no doubt we will have a couple of players in by the end of the window. A goalkeeper & centre half would do for me. I reckon these are the weakest positions in the team.

Those expecting 5 or 6 new players are deluded. We just don't have the financial capacity or space in the squad for so many new signings. As Gray has said, in the summer we will finally get a whole load of players off the wage bill.

To use an analogy. Hibs are like a huge super tanker. We have had Ian Gordon & Kensell on the bridge for a few years so it will take a while for Malky & Garvan Stewart to steady the ship and turn us around.

Some just need to be patient.

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 01:31 PM
Maybe stop repeating things you have already said as that is boring and adds nothing new to the discussion.

To suggest you will only stop being so negative when hibs are top of the league or in champs league is frankly ridiculous and suggests you have totally unrealistic expectations.

We could also maintain or improve our current form with the same group of players.

Who are you to tell me what to post or what to think?

Of course I don't think Hibs should be in Celtic's position, it was a tongue in cheek comment at the ridiculous suggestion that we are following the same approach as Celtic - an approach that would only make sense if we were in their position.

EGL2000
24-01-2025, 01:32 PM
St Johnstone sign another. Midfielder Jonathan Svedberg.

MacGruber
24-01-2025, 01:32 PM
Maybe stop repeating things you have already said as that is boring and adds nothing new to the discussion.

To suggest you will only stop being so negative when hibs are top of the league or in champs league is frankly ridiculous and suggests you have totally unrealistic expectations.

We could also maintain or improve our current form with the same group of players.

I don't think that's what they meant in terms of the Celtic comparison - clearly tongue in cheek to emphasise their point

truehibernian
24-01-2025, 01:33 PM
We’re on a very good unbeaten run, players coming back, and I’m liking the squad unity and togetherness - totally fine with taking our time to add a couple of players, and that we don’t rush it just to appease some supporters. A measured approach and not scattergun like previous windows.

RMQ1967
24-01-2025, 01:34 PM
If we are going to see quality over quantity then I am all for it.

Signings that come in and improve what we have is what is needed here not more squad filler.

I'll stay patient...

Yeah I don't know why people put themselves through the stress of willing something to happen that they have no control over. Every transfer window, every year, the same stress 😂

The thing is Hibs don't have control over it either - it's not like DG is sitting there saying - don't give the bams anything until the last week.

Got to believe the club are doing everything in the best interests of the team & it takes as long as it takes.

Chorley Hibee
24-01-2025, 01:41 PM
I'm not asking you to justify yourself.

You are to be commended that you support the club every week home and away, however that doesn't mean others cannot challenge you on your views and opinions, just the same as you challenge others.

I'm on here every day and I can't recall too many posts where you are supportive, the vast majority in my opinion are negative which again is your call.

You should know that Hibs performances these past few years hasn't exactly inspired an abundance of positive comments.

I think we're treading a fine line right now between still rescuing something from the season or falling back into trouble.

I believe January could make the difference either way.

I don't think that's an unreasonable assessment.

The idea I don't like people to challenge my views is nonsense, and I'm perfectly comfortable with discussion and disagreement within respectful boundaries.

Perhaps the same respect could be offered to people who don't necessarily agree with, or believe, everything the club does or says.

04Sauzee
24-01-2025, 01:42 PM
St Johnstone

𝐒𝐯𝐞𝐝𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐠 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐭! 💙

Swedish midfielder Jonathan Svedberg has agreed terms on a deal through until the summer of 2026, subject to international clearance.

#SJFC

NC1875
24-01-2025, 01:46 PM
St Johnstone

𝐒𝐯𝐞𝐝𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐠 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐭! 💙

Swedish midfielder Jonathan Svedberg has agreed terms on a deal through until the summer of 2026, subject to international clearance.

#SJFC

He’ll be rubbish. Far too early to be signing good players in this window 😝

TrinityHFC
24-01-2025, 01:50 PM
You should know that Hibs performances these past few years hasn't exactly inspired an abundance of positive comments.

I think we're treading a fine line right now between still rescuing something from the season or falling back into trouble.

I believe January could make the difference either way.

I don't think that's an unreasonable assessment.

The idea I don't like people to challenge my views is nonsense, and I'm perfectly comfortable with discussion and disagreement within respectful boundaries.

Perhaps the same respect could be offered to people who don't necessarily agree with, or believe, everything the club does or says.

I think if you are truly expecting one or two players to make a material difference to our season then you’d agree that those would have to be pretty exceptional players. Perhaps of the type we see very, very rarely.

You’d have to accept then that if that’s what we are looking for then we need to be sure that we’ve identified them, they are available and want to come here.

If those players were able to be signed do you genuinely think a group of professionals whose living relied on it just weren’t bothering to do anything about it?

I like a signing as much as the next person but I’m pretty relaxed about this window. We’ve created a good bit of momentum and team spirit and we are also seeing we have decent quality. We’ve also been doing without key players already. I’m confident we will add to the squad even if it is on the last day. I don’t think having players in before specific games makes much odds.

scoopyboy
24-01-2025, 01:59 PM
You should know that Hibs performances these past few years hasn't exactly inspired an abundance of positive comments.

I think we're treading a fine line right now between still rescuing something from the season or falling back into trouble.

I believe January could make the difference either way.

I don't think that's an unreasonable assessment.

The idea I don't like people to challenge my views is nonsense, and I'm perfectly comfortable with discussion and disagreement within respectful boundaries.

Perhaps the same respect could be offered to people who don't necessarily agree with, or believe, everything the club does or says.

I don't disagree with any of the points you have made regarding the past few seasons performances or the real possibility that we could fall back into trouble again. Indeed my concern is that I cannot identify a club that is likely to be in the play offs, every time I think I know who it's going to be they go on a run. I think St. Johnstone will finish last which I don't think will be any loss to the legue.

I, like the vast majority of punters want signings in and I would have liked a signing or two in by now, but will refrain from condemning the club over this until the window is closed. I really can't be bothered with the posts stating this club have signed x amount and the others have signed more. We have shown in the past you can sign the most players in January but they turn out to be rubbish and we are worse off.

In isolation I don't think many of your posts are necessarily wrong or unreasonable it's just the same things seem to be repeated over and over again which is what people are picking up on.

It doesn't make you a bad Hibs fan or indeed person.

flash
24-01-2025, 01:59 PM
He’ll be rubbish. Far too early to be signing good players in this window 😝

Like we couldn't have had him.

Hibiza
24-01-2025, 02:03 PM
Things have certainly spiced up in the last few pages.

Don't concern. The voice of reason has arrived.

I've no doubt we will have a couple of players in by the end of the window. A goalkeeper & centre half would do for me. I reckon these are the weakest positions in the team.

Those expecting 5 or 6 new players are deluded. We just don't have the financial capacity or space in the squad for so many new signings. As Gray has said, in the summer we will finally get a whole load of players off the wage bill.

To use an analogy. Hibs are like a huge super tanker. We have had Ian Gordon & Kensell on the bridge for a few years so it will take a while for Malky & Garvan Stewart to steady the ship and turn us around.

Some just need to be patient.

Nice one 👍 hope it's not a Suez Canal 😄

Silky
24-01-2025, 02:24 PM
If we are going to see quality over quantity then I am all for it.

Signings that come in and improve what we have is what is needed here not more squad filler.

I'll stay patient...

I'm with you on this. I've seen posts about getting bodies in, etc but I don't see what the rush is. Signing someone for the hell of it to keep doubting Thomas happy won't work. I think the club might be waiting to get the right bodies in, doing due dilligence to ensure that whoever comes in will, actually, improve the squad as oppose to the mood on .net.

Players become available at all stages of the window; clubs wait until they get bodies in before deciding to sell/loan players out, players wait as long as possible to get the best deal. In all the posts I've seen, there is absolutely no evidence that bringing in players early will improve the squad moreso that waiting and bringing in players. It's a marathon not a sprint and no prizes are given for being first to sign someone.

easty
24-01-2025, 02:38 PM
I think if you are truly expecting one or two players to make a material difference to our season then you’d agree that those would have to be pretty exceptional players. Perhaps of the type we see very, very rarely.

You’d have to accept then that if that’s what we are looking for then we need to be sure that we’ve identified them, they are available and want to come here.

If those players were able to be signed do you genuinely think a group of professionals whose living relied on it just weren’t bothering to do anything about it?

I like a signing as much as the next person but I’m pretty relaxed about this window. We’ve created a good bit of momentum and team spirit and we are also seeing we have decent quality. We’ve also been doing without key players already. I’m confident we will add to the squad even if it is on the last day. I don’t think having players in before specific games makes much odds.

I don’t think we’d need 2 exceptional players. 2 solid steady players could make a huge impact.

I also think it’d be a mistake to push ahead assuming the momentum and team spirit doesn’t dip. Aberdeen being a great example of that.

04Sauzee
24-01-2025, 03:15 PM
From the Daily Record


Hibs are yet to bring in any new faces this month.

But David Gray is 'very confident' they will be a stronger force come the end of the window

mcfly
24-01-2025, 03:45 PM
What is this, ****ing court!

I don't need to provide proof to satisfy your needs, I know what I've said.

If you find it boring, then stick me on ignore.

🤣

TrinityHibby
24-01-2025, 04:10 PM
We’re on a very good unbeaten run, players coming back, and I’m liking the squad unity and togetherness - totally fine with taking our time to add a couple of players, and that we don’t rush it just to appease some supporters. A measured approach and not scattergun like previous windows.


can’t wait for the seethe should we lose at Dingwall tomorrow whilst our rivals pick up points :confused:

04Sauzee
24-01-2025, 04:11 PM
Dunfermline sign Connor Young

Welcome to KDM Group East End Park Connor Young.

The forward, with 19 goals so far this term, joins from Edinburgh City for an undisclosed fee on a 2 and a half year deal.

Ribs1875
24-01-2025, 04:21 PM
From the Daily Record


Hibs are yet to bring in any new faces this month.

But David Gray is 'very confident' they will be a stronger force come the end of the window

Getting rid of the deadwood and saving on wages before the end of the window would make us a stronger force. Lol

scoopyboy
24-01-2025, 04:29 PM
can’t wait for the seethe should we lose at Dingwall tomorrow whilst our rivals pick up points :confused:

I get that and obviously we hope that doesn't happen. New signings don't mean you become instantly unbeatable however.

Billy Whizz
24-01-2025, 04:31 PM
Dunfermline sign Connor Young

Welcome to KDM Group East End Park Connor Young.

The forward, with 19 goals so far this term, joins from Edinburgh City for an undisclosed fee on a 2 and a half year deal.

Big step up for the lad, good luck to him

Pretty Boy
24-01-2025, 04:35 PM
Big step up for the lad, good luck to him

Great move for him.

He deserves a lot of credit for the way he has rebuilt his career since the Rangers move went sour. Really knuckled down and banged the goals in.

Jones28
24-01-2025, 04:36 PM
Think we could do a " James " late on and " sign someone , sign someone , anything " .

Sit Down ffs

TrinityHibby
24-01-2025, 04:37 PM
I get that and obviously we hope that doesn't happen. New signings don't mean you become instantly unbeatable however.


Totally agree, however if our new recruitment team can’t improve the current starting eleven this month we have serious problems GGTTH

flash
24-01-2025, 04:45 PM
Totally agree, however if our new recruitment team can’t improve the current starting eleven this month we have serious problems GGTTH

Serious problems like the run we are on just now?

overdrive
24-01-2025, 04:56 PM
Great move for him.

He deserves a lot of credit for the way he has rebuilt his career since the Rangers move went sour. Really knuckled down and banged the goals in.

Club record fee received for City too. Mind you, that could be £10 and a packet of Skips

Cat Stanton
24-01-2025, 05:24 PM
From the Daily Record


Hibs are yet to bring in any new faces this month.

But David Gray is 'very confident' they will be a stronger force come the end of the window

That's just 'cos Kensell has left...

B.H.F.C
24-01-2025, 05:24 PM
Serious problems like the run we are on just now?

A good run at the moment but it’s still a team that have won 7 games in the league.

I’m actually relatively relaxed about it but still feel we need to strengthen defensively. We’re not going to continue scoring three goals every week it feels like a pretty fine line between having a potentially good season or a pretty disastrous one.

flash
24-01-2025, 05:29 PM
A good run at the moment but it’s still a team that have won 7 games in the league.

I’m actually relatively relaxed about it but still feel we need to strengthen defensively. We’re not going to continue scoring three goals every week it feels like a pretty fine line between having a potentially good season or a pretty disastrous one.

I actually agree with you but thought the post i was replying to was a tad over dramatic.

Ronniekirk
24-01-2025, 05:33 PM
You should know that Hibs performances these past few years hasn't exactly inspired an abundance of positive comments.

I think we're treading a fine line right now between still rescuing something from the season or falling back into trouble.

I believe January could make the difference either way.


I don't think that's an unreasonable assessment.

The idea I don't like people to challenge my views is nonsense, and I'm perfectly comfortable with discussion and disagreement within respectful boundaries.

Perhaps the same respect could be offered to people who don't necessarily agree with, or believe, everything the club does or says.

Its not an unreasonable assessment I would rather we strengthen squad when on a good run than waiting till be drop points
But we are on a good run and confidence is high so some folk feel with players returning we can keep our unbeaten run going at present and wait to bring in couple of quality signings later in window
I guess time will tell how it pans out

TrinityHFC
24-01-2025, 05:37 PM
Totally agree, however if our new recruitment team can’t improve the current starting eleven this month we have serious problems GGTTH

Silly season.

Ronniekirk
24-01-2025, 05:41 PM
can’t wait for the seethe should we lose at Dingwall tomorrow whilst our rivals pick up points :confused:

We are being positive but yes if that were to happen folk won’t be happy as we would then likely move back out top six But this is now a hibs team capable of coping with adversity and coming back from going a goal down so let’s keep the unbeaten run going

Haymaker
24-01-2025, 10:10 PM
Do not worry

The Signing will occur

:hyper

bingo70
25-01-2025, 08:22 AM
Aberdeen trying to hijack Rangers bid for Lyle Cameron.

I was really impressed with him in the Dundee Derby on Monday, if there’s any possibility a non Old Firm Scottish club could get him, I’d like us to be asking the question too.

TrinityHibby
25-01-2025, 08:49 AM
Silly season.

Plenty of scope to upgrade the starting eleven with goalkeeper, centre back, defensive midfield, attacking midfield and proper goal scoring centre forward obvious areas of deficiency ……the standard of this league is pants otherwise we would be in real bother

TrinityHibby
25-01-2025, 08:50 AM
We are being positive but yes if that were to happen folk won’t be happy as we would then likely move back out top six But this is now a hibs team capable of coping with adversity and coming back from going a goal down so let’s keep the unbeaten run going

Will look forward to Hibs proving that this afternoon 🤞

Greenworld
25-01-2025, 09:53 AM
Plenty of scope to upgrade the starting eleven with goalkeeper, centre back, defensive midfield, attacking midfield and proper goal scoring centre forward obvious areas of deficiency ……the standard of this league is pants otherwise we would be in real botherThe spine of the team is always a good area to spend any money available.
Hibs quandary is the summer , do we wait and no we have a massive amount of players out of contract freeing up a lot of wages.


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04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 09:54 AM
Noticed the name David Ajagbe being mentioned on Twitter, some even saying it was the guy in the picture a good few days back. Definitely follows Hibs on Instagram. Supposedly at a Bournemouth development game

CentreLine
25-01-2025, 09:55 AM
IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

If it was that it went on, as a serious bid, until late on the last day of the window.

Ronniekirk
25-01-2025, 10:15 AM
Will look forward to Hibs proving that this afternoon 🤞

Me too but may have to settle for a draw if conditions aren’t great

007
25-01-2025, 10:27 AM
IMHO the McCowan saga was nothing but a smoke and mirrors exercise by the board to appease an increasingly angry support.

Total BS, made up by you. No doubt based on nothing but a dislike for IG/MM/BK.

hibbydog
25-01-2025, 11:25 AM
I’m a bit concerned about our lack of activity. We need to move on 4-5 players and bring a few in.

What are we waiting for?

Chorley Hibee
25-01-2025, 11:33 AM
Total BS, made up by you. No doubt based on nothing but a dislike for IG/MM/BK.

It's my opinion, that's all.

Just like it's your opinion that it's based upon nothing but a dislike for the people you mention.

Neither of our opinions holds any more weight than the other.

Hibby Kay-Yay
25-01-2025, 11:33 AM
Noticed the name David Ajagbe being mentioned on Twitter, some even saying it was the guy in the picture a good few days back. Definitely follows Hibs on Instagram. Supposedly at a Bournemouth development game

Apparently was just using our facilities so perhaps is following us due to that.

A Hi-Bee
25-01-2025, 11:36 AM
Time will tell, happy to let Hibs get on with things along with no sly leaks to the press to alert others.
:flag::flag::flag:

greenlex
25-01-2025, 11:41 AM
I’m a bit concerned about our lack of activity. We need to move on 4-5 players and bring a few in.

What are we waiting for?
Players willing to move on and the right players to replace them either being available or willing to come. :dunno:

HFC93
25-01-2025, 11:43 AM
I’m a bit concerned about our lack of activity. We need to move on 4-5 players and bring a few in.

What are we waiting for?

I'd imagine moving on the players you mentioned is holding things up.

hibeerealist
25-01-2025, 11:54 AM
Total BS, made up by you. No doubt based on nothing but a dislike for IG/MM/BK.
#
In Chorley's defence I am of the opinion that IF we were serious, we knew of the player's connection to CFC and we knew CFC were trying to get foreign players - i have said this previously, we had to make our offer with a time limit which would have put pressure on Dundee and CFC. IF that forced CFC into offering earlier than they intended then too ****** bad, at least we would have known where we stood and had more time to look elsewhere.

The "elsewhere" bit I suppose is irrelevant given Hibs have subsequently told us it was MCCowan or no one, that being the case the bit in bold is more relevant and Chorley may well be on the ball.

tug.lismore
25-01-2025, 12:48 PM
Total BS, made up by you. No doubt based on nothing but a dislike for IG/MM/BK.Agree

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04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 12:48 PM
Motherwell sign Dominic Thompson on a short-term deal until the end of the season, having left League One side Blackpool . He makes the squad today.

Sioux
25-01-2025, 12:53 PM
I’m a bit concerned about our lack of activity. We need to move on 4-5 players and bring a few in.

What are we waiting for?

what planet are you on?

Hibbyradge
25-01-2025, 12:55 PM
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In Chorley's defence I am of the opinion that IF we were serious, we knew of the player's connection to CFC and we knew CFC were trying to get foreign players - i have said this previously, we had to make our offer with a time limit which would have put pressure on Dundee and CFC. IF that forced CFC into offering earlier than they intended then too ****** bad, at least we would have known where we stood and had more time to look elsewhere.

The "elsewhere" bit I suppose is irrelevant given Hibs have subsequently told us it was MCCowan or no one, that being the case the bit in bold is more relevant and Chorley may well be on the ball.

What a great plan that would have been.

Pretend to bid for a player and raise expectation and hope, only to disappoint and anger the very people they're trying to placate. Deliberately!

It's absolute drivel, but like all good conspiracy theories, reason and evidence are not required.

Sioux
25-01-2025, 12:59 PM
It's my opinion, that's all.

Just like it's your opinion that it's based upon nothing but a dislike for the people you mention.

Neither of our opinions holds any more weight than the other.

It's not an opinion. It's an accusation that has no logical base. "An opinion implies a conclusion, thought out, yet open to dispute."

tug.lismore
25-01-2025, 01:04 PM
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In Chorley's defence I am of the opinion that IF we were serious, we knew of the player's connection to CFC and we knew CFC were trying to get foreign players - i have said this previously, we had to make our offer with a time limit which would have put pressure on Dundee and CFC. IF that forced CFC into offering earlier than they intended then too ****** bad, at least we would have known where we stood and had more time to look elsewhere.

The "elsewhere" bit I suppose is irrelevant given Hibs have subsequently told us it was MCCowan or no one, that being the case the bit in bold is more relevant and Chorley may well be on the ball.Not sure bidding for players is as cut and dried as "Here's our offer with a time limit. Take it or we move on".

McCowan was identified as a special case signing. I wonder if the Gordon Family were going to underwrite the signing if successful. Therefore, the £1m transfer fee never properly existed. However, Hibs would have found the cash if required.

Bit like buying a holiday on your credit card.

Hibs had to stay in the bidding as long as possible.

No alternative signing was identified as there wasn't one that matched McCowan. All or nothing.

Chorley's assertion that Hibs were trolling their own support and never intended to sign McCowan is his opinion and, in my opinion, made up nonsense.

The facts that seem to have come to light since the end of the last transfer window are that Hibs were in for McCowan and Celtic were trying to get Irving from West Ham. When that fell through they turned their attention to McCowan.

Although Hibs could possibly match Celtic's bid we could not match the wage offered nor the draw of Celtic to a player who is a Celtic fan.

I simply don't see how some fans can continue to beat Hibs over the head about this particular scenario. However, they are allowed their opinion. I just don't particularly agree with them.

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eastmainsmsh
25-01-2025, 01:20 PM
Apparently was just using our facilities so perhaps is following us due to that.

Hope Ian not playing football manager again

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 01:23 PM
Apparently was just using our facilities so perhaps is following us due to that.

Makes sense as his history doesn't scream Hibs first team ready.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 01:24 PM
Curtis Main leaves Dundee, mutually agreed to terminate his contract.

greenlex
25-01-2025, 01:31 PM
Makes sense as his history doesn't scream Hibs first team ready.

Unofficially taking a look to see if he would be a fit. If he’s not then he might end up elsewhere in the group.

hibeerealist
25-01-2025, 01:33 PM
What a great plan that would have been.

Pretend to bid for a player and raise expectation and hope, only to disappoint and anger the very people they're trying to placate. Deliberately!

It's absolute drivel, but like all good conspiracy theories, reason and evidence are not required.


Eh? I think every man and his dug knew the lad would go to CFC if they came in for him and of course we could not compete if they did! The ONLY way we were getting the player was by getting him before CFC came into play.

You can believe what you want and I will keep my opinion.

Callum_62
25-01-2025, 01:35 PM
Eh? I think every man and his dug knew the lad would go to CFC if they came in for him and of course we could not compete if they did! The ONLY way we were getting the player was by getting him before CFC came into play.

You can believe what you want and I will keep my opinion.Celtic only came in after their attempts to sign 2 other midfielders collapsed

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Hibbyradge
25-01-2025, 01:35 PM
Eh? I think every man and his dug knew the lad would go to CFC if they came in for him and of course we could not compete if they did! The ONLY way we were getting the player was by getting him before CFC came into play.

You can believe what you want and I will keep my opinion.

We bid for him.

The bid wasn't accepted but it remained on the table.

Celtic came in at the last minute because they missed out on their first choices.

McCowan, no doubt advised by his agent, had no reason to sign immediately.

The idea that Hibs were manipulating their supporters is just ridiculous.

leith lynx
25-01-2025, 01:38 PM
Curtis Main leaves Dundee, mutually agreed to terminate his contract.

Signed for Ayr utd

Hibees1973
25-01-2025, 01:41 PM
We bid for him.

Clearly we did. It was well publicised we made multiple bids.

Seems to be a bit vague when Celtic noted their interest and whether they had other irons in the fire.

Has anyone concluded that McCowan just didn't want to come to Hibs due to the malaise we were in with the turnover in managers. It's possible him and his agent preferred to wait to smoke out any clubs who may be interested or even just wait until his contract expired.

In any case he didn't come to us.

Hibbyradge
25-01-2025, 01:47 PM
Clearly we did. It was well publicised we made multiple bids.

Seems to be a bit vague when Celtic noted their interest and whether they had other irons in the fire.

Has anyone concluded that McCowan just didn't want to come to Hibs due to the malaise we were in with the turnover in managers. It's possible him and his agent preferred to wait to smoke out any clubs who may be interested or even just wait until his contract expired.

In any case he didn't come to us.

It wouldn't surprise me if his agent told him to hold off from signing to see what developed at Celtic Park.

He definitely hadn't rejected Hibs offer before Celtic came in for him.

hibbydog
25-01-2025, 01:50 PM
what planet are you on?

Eh?

You couldn’t look through our squad and pick out 4-5 players that are contributing very little and their wages would be better spent elsewhere?

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 01:52 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if his agent told him to hold off from signing to see what developed at Celtic Park.

He definitely hadn't rejected Hibs offer before Celtic came in for him.

I think that's exactly what has happened. He's kept us as a back up option to the last minute to see how the Celtic moved developed as that would be the better move for him. Which I honestly don't blame him for, I also think we probably knew that too. He was out of contract this summer he didn't need to rush into anything with us and lock himself away for the next four or five years, he could afford to be patient.

Let's be honest if we said there was a time limit to him he would have just said "okay then in that case no, not this summer at least." There was no need for him to race to accept our offer if Celtic were making lovey eyes at him from over the room all summer.

Smartie
25-01-2025, 01:53 PM
Eh?

You couldn’t look through our squad and pick out 4-5 players that are contributing very little and their wages would be better spent elsewhere?

Definitely a few weeks ago but we’ve shed a few already meaning that those players are a bit more thin on the ground than they were. 4-5 feels a bit excessive now.

McKirdy, Amos, Bursik, even then these are players who are on the fringes of our squad who we’d arguably miss if we shed them, didn’t replace them and then got more injuries.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 02:00 PM
UPDATE: Aberdeen are keen on Dundee midfielder Lyall Cameron.

It’s understood they want him in this month and talks have taken place with his reps.

There’s been no official contact between the clubs yet.

Dons feel they can offer him a better career path.

(w/@SahilJaidka)

Smartie
25-01-2025, 02:01 PM
I think that's exactly what has happened. He's kept us as a back up option to the last minute to see how the Celtic moved developed as that would be the better move for him. Which I honestly don't blame him for, I also think we probably knew that too. He was out of contract this summer he didn't need to rush into anything with us and lock himself away for the next four or five years, he could afford to be patient.

Let's be honest if we said there was a time limit to him he would have just said "okay then in that case no, not this summer at least." There was no need for him to race to accept our offer if Celtic were making lovey eyes at him from over the room all summer.

We’ve had SO much we could legitimately criticise Hibs for in recent years that I find it weird they get criticised for the McCowan affair, when reasonable explanations exist for every aspect of it.

“No plan B” I hear you say? The other midfielder we signed whilst that saga was ongoing (Triantis) has been our best player in recent months and integral to our revival.

superfurryhibby
25-01-2025, 02:05 PM
We bid for him.

The bid wasn't accepted but it remained on the table.

Celtic came in at the last minute because they missed out on their first choices.

McCowan, no doubt advised by his agent, had no reason to sign immediately.

The idea that Hibs were manipulating their supporters is just ridiculous.

I agree, it's a ridiculous suggestion. Hibs tried very hard to get McCowan in, unfortunately we were beaten to it by a much wealthier club. He was worth the waiting for, a very good midfielder who would have helped transform that area of the side.

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 02:06 PM
We’ve had SO much we could legitimately criticise Hibs for in recent years that I find it weird they get criticised for the McCowan affair, when reasonable explanations exist for every aspect of it.

“No plan B” I hear you say? The other midfielder we signed whilst that saga was ongoing (Triantis) has been our best player in recent months and integral to our revival.

I agree. I also don't buy the idea that we could just shift all our resources into a second target to spend the huge sum on all of a sudden. We were prepared to spend somewhere around the £1m mark on this guy, that is a huge amount of money for Hibs and we obviously did all our homework on him to make sure he would be worth making a 7 figure gamble on. It would have been sheer stupidity to just pivot to someone else that we perhaps didn't know as much about and take a bigger risk than McCowan already was, all to satisfy the mob.

The Modfather
25-01-2025, 02:14 PM
I agree. I also don't buy the idea that we could just shift all our resources into a second target to spend the huge sum on all of a sudden. We were prepared to spend somewhere around the £1m mark on this guy, that is a huge amount of money for Hibs and we obviously did all our homework on him to make sure he would be worth making a 7 figure gamble on. It would have been sheer stupidity to just pivot to someone else that we perhaps didn't know as much about and take a bigger risk than McCowan already was, all to satisfy the mob.

Why could we not have had alternative players we were looking at and working on in parallel should the McCowan deal not come to pass? From alternative £1m players (which there may well not have been) through to bringing in a similar type of player on loan or someone like Gayle for 12 months. I don’t believe the only options were McCowan or no one and left trying to make Campbell/Levitt//NMW work as 1/3rd of our midfield for the season.

greenlex
25-01-2025, 02:21 PM
Why could we not have had alternative players we were looking at and working on in parallel should the McCowan deal not come to pass? From alternative £1m players (which there may well not have been) through to bringing in a similar type of player on loan or someone like Gayle for 12 months. I don’t believe the only options were McCowan or no one and left trying to make Campbell/Levitt//NMW work as 1/3rd of our midfield for the season.
I think we would have been but the late late accepted bid from Celtic scuppered any alternative.

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 02:21 PM
Why could we not have had alternative players we were looking at and working on in parallel should the McCowan deal not come to pass? From alternative £1m players (which there may well not have been) through to bringing in a similar type of player on loan or someone like Gayle for 12 months. I don’t believe the only options were McCowan or no one and left trying to make Campbell/Levitt//NMW work as 1/3rd of our midfield for the season.

We maybe did but didn't feel comfortable on their demands? Maybe they fell through for other reasons? Maybe we just genuinely didn't like the options left on the table for us and thought it best to wait for January than sign someone we didn't really like out of desperation?

There are so many reasons why we maybe didn't sign someone instead of McCowan. I don't think it's worth the energy beating the club over the head for it.

Smartie
25-01-2025, 02:25 PM
Why could we not have had alternative players we were looking at and working on in parallel should the McCowan deal not come to pass? From alternative £1m players (which there may well not have been) through to bringing in a similar type of player on loan or someone like Gayle for 12 months. I don’t believe the only options were McCowan or no one and left trying to make Campbell/Levitt//NMW work as 1/3rd of our midfield for the season.

At risk of going round in circles on this one… whilst every transfer is a risk, some are riskier than others.

There were aspects of McCowan - age, familiar with Scottish football, injury history etc… that made him less risky than some, therefore worth pushing the boat out a bit further for. There may not have been any other players who fitted exactly this profile albeit there would be probably tens of thousands of midfielders whose clubs would happily accept a million of our pounds for. The Vente transfer may well have left us with burnt fingers in terms of shelling big bucks for players.

FWIW, having said that - I’m still not all that convinced that McCowan was a better prospective signing than Cameron, given Cameron’s age, potential sell on value and potential to complement the midfielders we already had.

ian cruise
25-01-2025, 02:27 PM
I'm sure after we'd turned a corner this season one of the reasons David Gray gave for the poor start was all the new players taking time to settle. I've looked firan article to back this memory up, but turns out Hibernian, David Gray and settle as a search brings up A LOT of results.

Anyway, if that was the case it makes perfect sense we're only looking at 2 or 3 players to compliment who is already here rather than disrupt the way things are going now.

The seasons we did will with Jack Ross we had minimal squad rotation.

I'm sure we'll sign a couple this window, but I'm actually glad we're not bringing in 4 or 5.

I should add, there's no one that any other team has signed that I've looked at and though "I wish Hibs had gone for that player".

The Modfather
25-01-2025, 02:28 PM
We maybe did but didn't feel comfortable on their demands? Maybe they fell through for other reasons? Maybe we just genuinely didn't like the options left on the table for us and thought it best to wait for January than sign someone we didn't really like out of desperation?

There are so many reasons why we maybe didn't sign someone instead of McCowan. I don't think it's worth the energy beating the club over the head for it.

Someone earlier in the thread said we bid for McCowan from before the league opener. So from the 3rd of August or earlier. At the start of the window if we had said we will end it with last seasons midfield, with Marcondes swapped for Kwon on loan would the consensus be that we had adequately addressed the midfield?

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 02:36 PM
Someone earlier in the thread said we bid for McCowan from before the league opener. So from the 3rd of August or earlier. At the start of the window if we had said we will end it with last seasons midfield, with Marcondes swapped for Kwon on loan would the consensus be that we had adequately addressed the midfield?

But you're making a different point to what I'm discussing. I'm saying why we didn't maybe have someone else ready to go. I didn't say we left the window with the midfield adequately addressed.

You can be annoyed that it wasn't, but I don't believe it was through lack of trying on the clubs part.

The Modfather
25-01-2025, 02:46 PM
But you're making a different point to what I'm discussing. I'm saying why we didn't maybe have someone else ready to go. I didn't say we left the window with the midfield adequately addressed.

You can be annoyed that it wasn't, but I don't believe it was through lack of trying on the clubs part.

I think Hibs did much correct with McCowan, up to not setting an end date, say a week before the end of the window, for Dundee/McCowan to accept our best offer before moving on to plan B or a short term solution and look to spend the McCowan money in the summer. I think it’s fair to praise the club for looking to show ambition and spend wisely while simultaneously criticise them for naively persisting with plan A up until the last moments of the window while Gray was still having to select from Campbell/Levitt/NMW during that time.

Paul1642
25-01-2025, 02:49 PM
So much talk about McCowan. He chose the best team in the league by a mile, with finances that trump the rest of Scottish football combined, who McCowan also happens to support. Once Celtic decided they wanted him we were never getting him.

If we signed McCowan, would we have went after our current player of the season Triantis? On that note we should be trying anything we can to sign Triantis if the price is realistic.

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 02:52 PM
I think Hibs did much correct with McCowan, up to not setting an end date, say a week before the end of the window, for Dundee/McCowan to accept our best offer before moving on to plan B or a short term solution and look to spend the McCowan money in the summer. I think it’s fair to praise the club for looking to show ambition and spend wisely while simultaneously criticise them for naively persisting with plan A up until the last moments of the window while Gray was still having to select from Campbell/Levitt/NMW during that time.

I really wish we had someone come in too. I just think there's a lot of reasons why it probably didn't happen when we were trying our best to get someone that would have been a brilliant signing for us.

If we did put the time limit on and we signed someone down our preferred list for say £500k and McCowan ended up staying at Dundee instead the club might have also copped criticism for making the wrong move, or themselves wish they didn't sign the other guy. Sometimes if you really think someone is good enough you have to do all you can to secure them.

Hibbyradge
25-01-2025, 02:53 PM
If we signed McCowan, would we have went after our current player of the season Triantis? On that note we should be trying anything we can to sign Triantis if the price is realistic.

I agree with you, but he's already said that he wants to make his mark at Sunderland.

CapitalGreen
25-01-2025, 02:56 PM
So much talk about McCowan. He chose the best team in the league by a mile, with finances that trump the rest of Scottish football combined, who McCowan also happens to support. Once Celtic decided they wanted him we were never getting him.

If we signed McCowan, would we have went after our current player of the season Triantis? On that note we should be trying anything we can to sign Triantis if the price is realistic.

Triantis was already signing for Hibs while we were still pursuing McCowan - the deals for each player were not related. Triantis would have been in earlier had Sunderland brought in a centre back earlier as it was they didn’t complete on Chris Mepham until deadline day which paved the way for Triantis to come here.

Sioux
25-01-2025, 02:57 PM
Eh?

You couldn’t look through our squad and pick out 4-5 players that are contributing very little and their wages would be better spent elsewhere?

They're under contract for goodness sake. We can't just get rid of players who want to keep the contract they're on, and getting paid until at least the summer.

If we pay them off, then we're paying double wages for 4-5 players. Financially a dumb idea.

Ozyhibby
25-01-2025, 04:00 PM
Muddling along in 6th place on 25th January and tumbleweed from Hibs about new signings. [emoji2369]
I thought Europe was supposed to be the goal every year?


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NC1875
25-01-2025, 04:01 PM
Hopefully some fresh faces in this week. Subs made us worse again today.

Get the finger out Hibs

greenlex
25-01-2025, 04:02 PM
Muddling along in 6th place on 25th January and tumbleweed from Hibs about new signings. [emoji2369]
I thought Europe was supposed to be the goal every year?


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Hardly muddling along FFS. A point closer to 5th (and just the one at that) than we were at kick off. **** game on **** pitch. We move on. New signings will happen when they happen.

SteveHFC
25-01-2025, 04:06 PM
Get some ****ing players signed. You’ve had from August to sort this.

AdidasHibernian
25-01-2025, 04:06 PM
Need a couple in before window shuts after today. We were poor second half.

NC1875
25-01-2025, 04:08 PM
Hardly muddling along FFS. A point closer to 5th (and just the one at that) than we were at kick off. **** game on **** pitch. We move on. New signings will happen when they happen.

What if we end up 1 point off 3rd place come the end of the season ? Having a signing or signings in earlier could’ve made all the difference today.

All this ***** about waiting on the right players is exactly that, a load of *****.

Plenty other teams have managed to sign players before now. Yet we always have an excuse.

Hopefully see a couple arrive this week.

delbert
25-01-2025, 04:17 PM
Muddling along in 6th place on 25th January and tumbleweed from Hibs about new signings. [emoji2369]
I thought Europe was supposed to be the goal every year?


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One hundred per cent correct, that’s unacceptable today, County have been taking some pummellings and if we have any pretensions of Europe, we should be going up there and winning with a bit of style, yes another game unbeaten but not a good afternoon and another game where we couldn’t see it out, shooting ourselves in the foot by conceding late again. The lack of signings is ridiculous, if we had a squad which couldn’t be improved, that would be understandable but right now, it’s baffling.

Unseen work
25-01-2025, 04:18 PM
Get some ****ing players signed. You’ve had from August to sort this.

Jeezy peeps..

Mcbizz1998
25-01-2025, 04:19 PM
Jeezy peeps..

Not sure what you mean. He’s right.

GreenCastle
25-01-2025, 04:21 PM
100% need fresh quality - the team ain’t getting stale but we need competition for places and our bench didn’t improve things today.

Next 7 days massive along with keeping Youan!!

B.H.F.C
25-01-2025, 04:24 PM
Hardly muddling along FFS. A point closer to 5th (and just the one at that) than we were at kick off. **** game on **** pitch. We move on. New signings will happen when they happen.

Thought today was a big day. As poor a team as we’ll face between now and the end of the season. 7 wins out of 24. Today was points dropped and a missed opportunity to make up more ground.

Squad needs strengthened, it always has done given the lack of wins. Think this has been overlooked by many because of a good few weeks.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 04:29 PM
Thought today was a big day. As poor a team as we’ll face between now and the end of the season. 7 wins out of 24. Today was points dropped and a missed opportunity to make up more ground.

Squad needs strengthened, it always has done given the lack of wins. Think this has been overlooked by many because of a good few weeks.

We will still draw and lose games with new signings, I'm frustrated we haven't signed anyone yet, just hoping that it will become clear next week why we haven't got anyone in the door yet.

A Hi-Bee
25-01-2025, 04:30 PM
We are still no a very good side, we do need quality and we should always be challenging for Europe not hoping to just get into the top six whatever that means.

jeffers
25-01-2025, 04:30 PM
I agree with you, but he's already said that he wants to make his mark at Sunderland.

I wouldn’t read too much in the article that was linked on the match day thread. He’s always going to say what he did to the official Sunderland site. I thought the last part of the article was more telling than anything.

Since452
25-01-2025, 04:33 PM
Whats the crack with Youan? Missing him just now. Injured or being sold?

hibbydog
25-01-2025, 04:35 PM
They're under contract for goodness sake. We can't just get rid of players who want to keep the contract they're on, and getting paid until at least the summer.

If we pay them off, then we're paying double wages for 4-5 players. Financially a dumb idea.

Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

CapitalGreen
25-01-2025, 04:38 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

There’s no such thing as letting a contract player go for free, we would have to pay up the remainder of their contract.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 04:38 PM
UPDATE: Celtic are expected to make another approach for Brondby striker Mathias Kvistgaarden.

Brondby are not keen to sell the 22yo in this window, unless a record bid in excess of £10m came in.

As things stand, there's been no official contact between the clubs this month.

SaulGoodman
25-01-2025, 04:38 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

How would we do that? You’d need to find a team paying them the same or more wages than we’re currently paying them or they’re not going to agree to the transfer are they?

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 04:39 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

I'm almost 100% sure that's not how it works.

Allant1981
25-01-2025, 04:39 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

Not exactly free when you would still need to compensate them

jeffers
25-01-2025, 04:42 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

The trouble with that approach is that Hibs are probably the best club they will ever sign for and their wages are unlikely to be matched elsewhere.

Aldo
25-01-2025, 04:43 PM
Whats the crack with Youan? Missing him just now. Injured or being sold?

This maybe controversial but I don’t think he wants to play in case he really gets injured. He lost out any potential summer move due to injury and doesn’t want to scupper any total move.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2025, 04:46 PM
We will still draw and lose games with new signings, I'm frustrated we haven't signed anyone yet, just hoping that it will become clear next week why we haven't got anyone in the door yet.

We will. But I’d like to think we could win more often as well. On to Aberdeen next week and win then today isn’t a disaster. But games are running out. Think we’ve drawn the most in the league and quite a few of them due to late goals. We will very rarely win a game if we don’t keep a clean sheet which tells me where we need to strengthen.

jeffers
25-01-2025, 04:47 PM
This maybe controversial but I don’t think he wants to play in case he really gets injured. He lost out any potential summer move due to injury and doesn’t want to scupper any total move.

He’s got a sore toe. Hopefully he pulls through…

Aldo
25-01-2025, 04:48 PM
He’s got a sore toe. Hopefully he pulls through…

Aye indeed he has!

Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2025, 04:53 PM
How would we do that? You’d need to find a team paying them the same or more wages than we’re currently paying them or they’re not going to agree to the transfer are they?

Whilst generally you’re correct, I know a player who done exactly that (not a Hibs related transfer).

It allowed him to get playing again, closer to home, and the contract length he was being offered was appealing. He took less money and no payoff.

I’d imagine the vast majority of the time you’re correct, but it can happen.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 05:09 PM
Hearts look like selling a player

Hearts have received a bid for Daniel
Oyegoke and a deal is close to being finalised.

Centre Hawf
25-01-2025, 05:12 PM
Whilst generally you’re correct, I know a player who done exactly that (not a Hibs related transfer).

It allowed him to get playing again, closer to home, and the contract length he was being offered was appealing. He took less money and no payoff.

I’d imagine the vast majority of the time you’re correct, but it can happen.

Yeah definitely possible. I think the likelier scenario for some guys is they go on loan to play for the last spell of their contract to show potential clubs what they can do. I think for someone like Luke Amos and Harry McKirdy that would be a lot more beneficial to them than sitting on their arse waiting for the summer to pick up a club with no real recent performances to prove they're capable of doing it any decent level.

Hibees1973
25-01-2025, 05:20 PM
Would really like a new goalkeeper. And not a loan.

Big, imposing, shot stopping goalkeeper good with the ball at his feet. Someone we can rely on for 2-3 seasons.

Is it really that difficult.

Surely Garvan can improve on Bursik & Smith.

Alfred E Newman
25-01-2025, 05:22 PM
We will. But I’d like to think we could win more often as well. On to Aberdeen next week and win then today isn’t a disaster. But games are running out. Think we’ve drawn the most in the league and quite a few of them due to late goals. We will very rarely win a game if we don’t keep a clean sheet which tells me where we need to strengthen.

The back three were fine today, especially Rocky, but we lost the control we had in midfield when Levitt went off. That’s where we need to strengthen and another option up front.

raeburnhibs
25-01-2025, 05:27 PM
The back three were fine today, especially Rocky, but we lost the control we had in midfield when Levitt went off. That’s where we need to strengthen and another option up front.

Levitt went off around 65mins? Has he not got ten more minutes in his legs? I know he hasn't played that much....

scoopyboy
25-01-2025, 05:31 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

Sincerely hope you don't work in employment law

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 05:33 PM
The back three were fine today, especially Rocky, but we lost the control we had in midfield when Levitt went off. That’s where we need to strengthen and another option up front.
Conceding 12 in the last 10 games which is 5th best in league and scoring 20 which is comfortably 3rd best I'd agree that whilst our defending can be much better I think it's still the middle of the park we need to improve. I still always believe that whoever we get in should improve the team so if we signed 3 players and they were all CB's that improved our back line then we shouldn't turn our noses up. We need to improve where we can when can.

HoboHarry
25-01-2025, 05:34 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

You'd almost think someone else would have thought of that before if it was that easy.

Jones28
25-01-2025, 06:01 PM
Here’s a novel idea. Let them go for free, they can get wages somewhere else and we can spend money on players who actually contribute to the first team.

Do you not think this is on the table?

It will literally have been the first thing the club said to them: we will rip your contract up and you can go somewhere else.

These guys are guaranteed money for the next 6 months with no promise of wages if they are released. What would you do?

MacGruber
25-01-2025, 06:48 PM
Today showed we need to be improving the squad this window if we have designs on 3rd and Europe. Others are taking the opportunity to do just that, 3rd is wide open and fortune favours the brave. Been on a good run but will hit a sticky spell. Like the saying goes, it you stand still in football you move backwards

hibsforeurope
25-01-2025, 07:04 PM
Today showed we need to be improving the squad this window if we have designs on 3rd and Europe. Others are taking the opportunity to do just that, 3rd is wide open and fortune favours the brave. Been on a good run but will hit a sticky spell. Like the saying goes, it you stand still in football you move backwards

Agreed, if we had a stronger bench today we’d probably maintained control and seen the game out.
3 points today and a win next week would have seen us go above Aberdeen and into a great chance of Europe and 3rd.
A bit more quality and we would turn these draws into wins.

Bobby's Cinema
25-01-2025, 07:06 PM
Agreed, if we had a stronger bench today we’d probably maintained control and seen the game out.
3 points today and a win next week would have seen us go above Aberdeen and into a great chance of Europe and 3rd.
A bit more quality and we would turn these draws into wins.
General consensus before the game today was how much stronger the bench was looking.

tamig
25-01-2025, 07:11 PM
What if we end up 1 point off 3rd place come the end of the season ? Having a signing or signings in earlier could’ve made all the difference today.

All this ***** about waiting on the right players is exactly that, a load of *****.

Plenty other teams have managed to sign players before now. Yet we always have an excuse.

Hopefully see a couple arrive this week.
Are you implying we should have signed the players that other clubs have signed? I’m happy to wait so we get the players in that can make a difference. Not just bodies so we can say we’ve got a whole load of new players in.

Lago
25-01-2025, 07:13 PM
General consensus before the game today was how much stronger the bench was looking.
Didn't full fill it's potential based the teams 2nd half performance.

tamig
25-01-2025, 07:26 PM
General consensus before the game today was how much stronger the bench was looking.

Correct. I think the subs he made were the wrong ones. That was the issue today - not who was on the bench.

Since452
25-01-2025, 07:27 PM
What if we end up 1 point off 3rd place come the end of the season ? Having a signing or signings in earlier could’ve made all the difference today.

All this ***** about waiting on the right players is exactly that, a load of *****.

Plenty other teams have managed to sign players before now. Yet we always have an excuse.

Hopefully see a couple arrive this week.

Signing players doesn't always make a difference. Look at Aberdeen. Panic spent well over a million in January so far only to be scudded 3-0 at home to St Mirren. I'd rather wait to get the right player(s).

theonlywayisup
25-01-2025, 08:04 PM
Today showed we need to be improving the squad this window if we have designs on 3rd and Europe. Others are taking the opportunity to do just that, 3rd is wide open and fortune favours the brave. Been on a good run but will hit a sticky spell. Like the saying goes, it you stand still in football you move backwards

Agreed, we need some decent creative recruits especially in midfield.

hibsforeurope
25-01-2025, 08:06 PM
General consensus before the game today was how much stronger the bench was looking.

Not sure I buy that, other than Bowie and maybe rudi the bench wasn’t great. Not many of them have been performing to a good enough level.
We need some quality in midfield to come in.

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 08:25 PM
When does the window close?

Heisenberg
25-01-2025, 08:27 PM
When does the window close?

11pm on the 3rd of Feb

neil7908
25-01-2025, 08:31 PM
Whats the crack with Youan? Missing him just now. Injured or being sold?

I find some of our dealings (or lack of) in the last couple of windows strange.

I'm getting a bit tired now of seeing Youan sit out important games when the window is open, presumably as he's on the cusp of a move, only for nothing to happen. If he's a Hibs player he should play.

We were also ready to pay a seven figure amount in salary and wages for McGowan in the summer, but now can't seem to findanyone even though the January window has been open for over 3 weeks.

There has been a lot of internal change and I really hope we can settle down and get some clear direction and action from the summer onwards.

neil7908
25-01-2025, 08:33 PM
Signing players doesn't always make a difference. Look at Aberdeen. Panic spent well over a million in January so far only to be scudded 3-0 at home to St Mirren. I'd rather wait to get the right player(s).

These things are always presented in a binary choice - buy bad players early or wait and get good players. We waited for McGowan and that didn't exactly turn out well for us.

Can't we just sign some good players early 🤣🤣🤣

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 08:34 PM
I thought we were ok today.

A game played on a brutal surface on a very cold day against a home team set up not to lose.

First penalty was an absolute joke but justice was served when Smith saved.

I just wish we’d go after teams a little more when we are in the ascendancy.

In the ten minutes before the second penalty award we allowed County back into a game we were controlling and, not having the cushion of a second goal, proved costly.

All said and done a point is disappointing but not a disaster.

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 08:35 PM
11pm on the 3rd of Feb

Thanks 👍

theonlywayisup
25-01-2025, 08:36 PM
I find some of our dealings (or lack of) in the last couple of windows strange.

I'm getting a bit tired now of seeing Youan sit out important games when the window is open, presumably as he's on the cusp of a move, only for nothing to happen. If he's a Hibs player he should play.

We were also ready to pay a seven figure amount in salary and wages for McGowan in the summer, but now can't seem to findanyone even though the January window has been open for over 3 weeks.

There has been a lot of internal change and I really hope we can settle down and get some clear direction and action from the summer onwards.

My belief is that Youan is choosing not to play in the hope that he's transferred away from Easter Road.

Unseen work
25-01-2025, 08:38 PM
Wonder if Bobby Wales is one we’re looking at.

Out of contract in the summer.

It’s this sort of stage we probably need to take a chance on young players like him in Scotland. Allow him to sign a new contract and improve at killie then we’ll probably be priced out. More risky though as they’re so young and inexperienced.

Some really good Scottish players out of contract this summer though

Allan Campbell
Danny Armstrong
Lyall Cameron
Josh Mulligan
Bobby Wales
Liam Henderson 👀
Michael Rose
Jay Henderson - flying in championship
Barry Bannan

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 08:45 PM
My belief is that Youan is choosing not to play in the hope that he's transferred away from Easter Road.

I hope that’s not the case but it does feel like something’s not quite right with his situation.

If he’s the one not wanting to play then, as much as I admire his footballing qualities, I’d rather he’d just leave.

I hope we are reading the situation incorrectly but is he’s not fully committed to the Club and his teammates I’d be showing him the door.

TrinityHFC
25-01-2025, 08:46 PM
I hope that’s not the case but it does feel like something’s not quite right with his situation.

If he’s the one not wanting to play then, as much as I admire his footballing qualities, I’d rather he’d just leave.

I hope we are reading the situation incorrectly but is he’s not fully committed to the Club and his teammates I’d be showing him the door.

This pish again? He’s injured.

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 08:49 PM
Wonder if Bobby Wales is one we’re looking at.

Out of contract in the summer.

It’s this sort of stage we probably need to take a chance on young players like him in Scotland. Allow him to sign a new contract and improve at killie then we’ll probably be priced out. More risky though as they’re so young and inexperienced.

Some really good Scottish players out of contract this summer though

Allan Campbell
Danny Armstrong
Lyall Cameron
Josh Mulligan
Bobby Wales
Liam Henderson 👀
Michael Rose
Jay Henderson - flying in championship
Barry Bannan

How much do you think the likes of Wales, Mulligan and Cameron would cost in development fees? I agree btw they should be the kind of players we look at.

Barry Bannan is still one of the better players in the championship even at his age, no way he'd come here imo.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2025, 08:52 PM
This pish again? He’s injured.

Window closes after the Aberdeen game. I’ll bet he’s available for Ayr.

After the window has closed. Gray was talking about him being available for St Johnstone 3 weeks ago but it’s just no ready, no ready, no ready thereafter.

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 08:54 PM
This pish again? He’s injured.

Aye this ‘pish’ again.

What’s your problem with what I’ve said?

Unseen work
25-01-2025, 08:54 PM
How much do you think the likes of Wales, Mulligan and Cameron would cost in development fees? I agree btw they should be the kind of players we look at.

Barry Bannan is still one of the better players in the championship even at his age, no way he'd come here imo.

Not convinced Wales would cost that much due to how little he’s played.

Think Cameron and Mulligan would be over half a million each though due to appearances and potentially Scotland 21 appearances?

I’m sure there’s a certain way to estimate how much you get for it online somewhere

Agree re Bannan though

superfurryhibby
25-01-2025, 08:56 PM
My belief is that Youan is choosing not to play in the hope that he's transferred away from Easter Road.

Nonsense, utter tripe.

Coco Bryce
25-01-2025, 08:57 PM
This pish again? He’s injured.

He was very close to being fit about 3 weeks ago 😂😂

Donegal Hibby
25-01-2025, 08:59 PM
Wonder if Bobby Wales is one we’re looking at.

Out of contract in the summer.

It’s this sort of stage we probably need to take a chance on young players like him in Scotland. Allow him to sign a new contract and improve at killie then we’ll probably be priced out. More risky though as they’re so young and inexperienced.

Some really good Scottish players out of contract this summer though

Allan Campbell
Danny Armstrong
Lyall Cameron
Josh Mulligan
Bobby Wales
Liam Henderson ��
Michael Rose
Jay Henderson - flying in championship
Barry Bannan

There’s a few players in there that I’d actually ask the question would they improve us all that much? … one being Lyall Cameron who I’ve seen play well and also not really noticed him in games too . Would Danny Armstrong be an upgrade on what we already have too ? One that has impressed me recently is Mulligan TBH .

04Sauzee
25-01-2025, 09:02 PM
Hearts star Daniel Oyegoke nears exit as Hellas Verona 'confident' of a transfer deal #HMFC

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dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

The Modfather
25-01-2025, 09:04 PM
This pish again? He’s injured.

This is what Gray said on the 9th Jan. Yet here we are on the 25th still waiting on him returning. Sounds like Gray all but confirming it’s not “this pish again”

“That’s a frustrating one because we thought he would be back well before now. But it could just be one that rapidly heals.“

“He’s got a problem with his toe from impact that it’s taking longer to settle. Because a lot of your force goes through it; you don’t realise until you hurt your big toe how much important it is with your balance and stuff.

“We did think it would settle down a lot quicker than it has. But again, it’s been x-rayed, he’s had an MRI, there’s nothing significant or structural going on in there. It’s just a healing process, it’s taking longer than we’d like.

“He could go from doing very little today to coming in tomorrow feeling brand new and good to go. So, still hopeful he’ll be available for the weekend, in some capacity.“

JimBHibees
25-01-2025, 09:05 PM
This is what Gray said on the 9th Jan. Yet here we are on the 25th still waiting on him returning. Sounds like Gray all but confirming it’s not “this pish again”

“That’s a frustrating one because we thought he would be back well before now. But it could just be one that rapidly heals.“

“He’s got a problem with his toe from impact that it’s taking longer to settle. Because a lot of your force goes through it; you don’t realise until you hurt your big toe how much important it is with your balance and stuff.

“We did think it would settle down a lot quicker than it has. But again, it’s been x-rayed, he’s had an MRI, there’s nothing significant or structural going on in there. It’s just a healing process, it’s taking longer than we’d like.

“He could go from doing very little today to coming in tomorrow feeling brand new and good to go. So, still hopeful he’ll be available for the weekend, in some capacity.“

Maybe he has had a setback

The Modfather
25-01-2025, 09:07 PM
Maybe he has had a setback

Maybe, though you’d have thought we would have heard that by now if it was the case. Not the same radio silence and confusion as we saw in the summer window.

TrinityHFC
25-01-2025, 09:10 PM
Aye this ‘pish’ again.

What’s your problem with what I’ve said?

It’s not true. It is a continuation of the weird character assassination he’s had to put up with for a long time now from people who know absolutely nothing about him.

TrinityHFC
25-01-2025, 09:12 PM
This is what Gray said on the 9th Jan. Yet here we are on the 25th still waiting on him returning. Sounds like Gray all but confirming it’s not “this pish again”

“That’s a frustrating one because we thought he would be back well before now. But it could just be one that rapidly heals.“

“He’s got a problem with his toe from impact that it’s taking longer to settle. Because a lot of your force goes through it; you don’t realise until you hurt your big toe how much important it is with your balance and stuff.

“We did think it would settle down a lot quicker than it has. But again, it’s been x-rayed, he’s had an MRI, there’s nothing significant or structural going on in there. It’s just a healing process, it’s taking longer than we’d like.

“He could go from doing very little today to coming in tomorrow feeling brand new and good to go. So, still hopeful he’ll be available for the weekend, in some capacity.“

I seem to be unable to find the bit where Gray comes close to suggesting it is made up because the transfer window is open. He’s confirmed there that he’s injured.

allmodcons
25-01-2025, 09:19 PM
It’s not true. It is a continuation of the weird character assassination he’s had to put up with for a long time now from people who know absolutely nothing about him.

So, presumably, you are in the know about his injury? Are you close to him?

If you’d bothered to read my post you’d have seen I said I hope it’s not the case that he’s feigning injury but you can’t disagree with the argument that a player (any player) who’s not committed to the club or his teammates should be moved on.

You are correct in assuming I know nothing about him on a personal level but, as a supporter, think I’m entitled to be concerned about his situation.

bingo70
25-01-2025, 09:21 PM
Nonsense, utter tripe.

Do you think that never happens in football or just that Youann wouldn’t do it to Hibs?

superfurryhibby
25-01-2025, 09:23 PM
It’s not true. It is a continuation of the weird character assassination he’s had to put up with for a long time now from people who know absolutely nothing about him.

It is. The same obsessed bunch of folk saying the same cliched nonsense.

Joe6-2
25-01-2025, 09:24 PM
Too many personal attacks on fellow supporters on here, people have different opinions, whether they are right or wrong isn’t the point.

tamig
25-01-2025, 09:48 PM
Maybe, though you’d have thought we would have heard that by now if it was the case. Not the same radio silence and confusion as we saw in the summer window.

Regarding Youan? What was the confusion? I saw him get injured at ER late in the game. That put him out until the transfer window closed. Or are you tslking about something else?

Tyler Durden
25-01-2025, 10:04 PM
The back three were fine today, especially Rocky, but we lost the control we had in midfield when Levitt went off. That’s where we need to strengthen and another option up front.

Not sure re “especially Rocky”. Watch the 2nd penalty back, Rocky basically loses his man. People may not think it’s a penalty but the guy could have scored…. It’s slack from Obita and Rocky.

I do agree though that CBs aren’t the priority in this window.

Fifeshirehibs
25-01-2025, 10:34 PM
It's a broken record , we make our 'tactical' 2nd half subs and lose a goal sometimes it's goals, fed up with it.

tamig
25-01-2025, 10:45 PM
It's a broken record , we make our 'tactical' 2nd half subs and lose a goal sometimes it's goals, fed up with it.

Its not really. Was definitely the case earlier in the season but the subs have been pretty effective during this recent good run.

NC1875
25-01-2025, 10:52 PM
Are you implying we should have signed the players that other clubs have signed? I’m happy to wait so we get the players in that can make a difference. Not just bodies so we can say we’ve got a whole load of new players in.

No, I’m implying we should have had targets identified months ago and in the door at the earliest opportunity. You know, just like other teams have managed to do.

Instead, gullible people like you believe that all the superstars only become available at the end of the window. And Hibs are the only team clever enough to wait to sign them.

A load of utter *****. But you keep telling yourself you’re right 👍🏼