Next Manager?

[thebausburst]

Assuming Hibs do pull the trigger who do you want? For me McInnes is the obvious choice, very good record at Aberdeen, now doing very well with Killie, guy knows how to win games and big games against the uglies something we are incapable of doing.

[SickBoy32]

Kensell needs to be first out the door.

If not, the malaise at our club will continue.

[The_Exile]

At this point I don't think it matters who the manager is.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Assuming Hibs do pull the trigger who do you want? For me McInnes is the obvious choice, very good record at Aberdeen, now doing very well with Killie, guy knows how to win games and big games against the uglies something we are incapable of doing.

Does he know how to win big games? Yes, Killie have had a few decent results against OF this season. My memory of him at Aberdeen is he generally struggled vs the OF, but consistently got good results against the rest of the league.

[ScottB]

Clear out everybody on the football side, let Foley and co reset.

[Greensunshine]

The best manager we’ve had in recent times, it’s got to be Lennon for me.

[Bridge hibs]

Lee Johnson

[Callum_62]

Dick Campbell.

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[Bob Box Fish]

Monty , Kensall , McDermott empty the lot

[Since452]

Barely mustering up the energy to care anymore tbh. Scunnered.

[we are hibs]

Don't know who I want but the one thing I do know is that I don't want Ian Gordon or Ben Kensell near any appointment.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Needs to be someone who knows the Scottish game,not an easy task by any means,tonight I'm not giving a **** 😔

[Alex Trager]

It’s simply got to be McInnes. Should have been him when we sacked JR. And every time since.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would love McInnes, fully aware it won’t be him.

Suspect it’ll be somebody we’ve never really heard of, sourced by BKFC.

[H18 SFR]

See all the McInnes chat. The BK’s are not going to go for / sanction that appointment.

[leith lynx]

Michael O'Neill

[Frazerbob]

Ian Murray

[Liberal Hibby]

Can't imagine why McInnes would want to leave a successful top six club?

[AugustaHibs]

See all the McInnes chat. The BK’s are not going to go for / sanction that appointment.

He wouldn’t take it.

Take that for fact. He’s not that stupid.

[H18 SFR]

He wouldn’t take it.

Take that for fact. He’s not that stupid.

I agree with this completely.

[Lancs Harp]

McDermott is good mates with Roy Race.

[West Upper]

Derek Mcinnes or Michael O'Neill

[wills]

Michael O’Neill

[supermcginn]

Micheal O'Neill is a certainty, I'd put a good few quid on him getting it. Great track record and a brilliant player for us. It's time.

[AugustaHibs]

I agree with this completely.

It’s very unfortunate.

Can’t say how I know this but it’s straight from the horses mouth, he doesn’t want to work under an American ownership after cormack. I also don’t think a DOF would help hibs case.

Such a shame as he’d having us competing with hearts consistently.

The merry go round continues with absolutely mental left field appointments that are deemed ‘exciting’ and ‘a bit different’

Craig Levein taking 6 points off us as st Johnstone manager is certainly not ****ing exciting, although it might be ‘a bit different’

[number9dream]

Assuming Hibs do pull the trigger who do you want? For me McInnes is the obvious choice, very good record at Aberdeen, now doing very well with Killie, guy knows how to win games and big games against the uglies something we are incapable of doing.

Mind-blowing that McInnes was out of work when we appointed Maloney...
Three more wasted years of terrible appointments.

Don't trust Kensell / Gordon to do the right thing and worry it could be a repeat of this season with Monty hanging around over the summer, only to be shown the door early next term.

Honestly don't think McInnes would take the job. He'll have European football with Killie and doesn't need a modest pay rise... Is it a step too far too early for Ian Murray or Scott Brown / Steven Whittaker? Probably.

O'Neill seems to have priced himself out of the Aberdeen gig, so that would cost a pretty penny.

[Chorley Hibee]

It’s very unfortunate.

Can’t say how I know this but it’s straight from the horses mouth, he doesn’t want to work under an American ownership after cormack. I also don’t think a DOF would help hibs case.

Such a shame as he’d having us competing with hearts consistently.

The merry go round continues with absolutely mental left field appointments that are deemed ‘exciting’ and ‘a bit different’

Craig Levein taking 6 points off us as st Johnstone manager is certainly not ****ing exciting, although it might be ‘a bit different’

Levein taking points off us isn't different, it's a regular occurrence.

[AugustaHibs]

Levein taking points off us isn't different, it's a regular occurrence.

Maybe with a decent side, but not with that ****ing st Johnstone side.

Lowest I’ve felt abut hibs since relegation.

[Chorley Hibee]

Maybe with a decent side, but not with that ****ing st Johnstone side.

Lowest I’ve felt abut hibs since relegation.

He's taken 6 points from 2 games thus far.

I'll bet you money he makes it 9 points from 3 games if we finish bottom half.

[AugustaHibs]

He's taken 6 points from 2 games thus far.

I bet you money he makes it 9 from 9 if we finish bottom half.

Agreed mate.

Can anyone actually imagine what Montgomery would do if roles were reversed?

He’d have st j relegated below Livingston!!

[Hibees1973]

Mind-blowing that McInnes was out of work when we appointed Maloney...
Three more wasted years of terrible appointments.

Don't trust Kensell / Gordon to do the right thing and worry it could be a repeat of this season with Monty hanging around over the summer, only to be shown the door early next term.

Honestly don't think McInnes would take the job. He'll have European football with Killie and doesn't need a modest pay rise... Is it a step too far too early for Ian Murray or Scott Brown / Steven Whittaker? Probably.

I think this point is key.

With the Black Knights on board (albeit as a minority) what will be the decision making process.

Can't see Foley sitting back seeing the shambles on the park. He will have seen Kensell & The Gordons appoint three clowns as managers. If Foley is unable to remove Montgomery I cannot see this partnership working. Foley will certainly not invest any more money if he cannot have a major influence.

[noz]

Micheal O'Neill is a certainty, I'd put a good few quid on him getting it. Great track record and a brilliant player for us. It's time.

well he reputedly turned down Aberdeen, so maybe.

[skyehibee]

Anyone as long as Kenselll and whoever picked Monty and Johnson are nowhere near the process to appoint somebody again

[Dashing Bob S]

McDermott is good mates with Roy Race.

Too racist.


I'd like to see Malky McKay in post.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Give McInnes a go. He’d give us some fight.

[supermcginn]

well he reputedly turned down Aberdeen, so maybe.

Even I'd turn down them 🤣

[lyonhibs]

Does he know how to win big games? Yes, Killie have had a few decent results against OF this season. My memory of him at Aberdeen is he generally struggled vs the OF, but consistently got good results against the rest of the league.

Frankly I'd take that any and every day of the week currently.

[Hibiza]

Micheal O'Neil .

[Dr What If?]

It has to be O'Neill, the stars are lining up for this and he ticks a lot of boxes......
Strong Hibs connection and past fan favourite
Managed in Scotland before
Managed at quite a high level with Stoke where he did ok
League title winning manager in Ireland
Got N. Ireland to their first tournament in 30 years, even getting past the groups
His record gives him a bit of box office appeal
With BKFC behind us at a time where we are surely about to part ways with the current incumbent.....it must surely be the right time?

[JammyDoidger]

Mciness or Lennon, should have been the last time too.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Don't know who I want but the one thing I do know is that I don't want Ian Gordon or Ben Kensell near any appointment.


this 110% :agree:

[jakeshibs]

Assuming Hibs do pull the trigger who do you want? For me McInnes is the obvious choice, very good record at Aberdeen, now doing very well with Killie, guy knows how to win games and big games against the uglies something we are incapable of doing.

I think we must be honest and ask the right question, who worth their salt would come to hibs as no decent manager who values their own reputation would take what is regarded as a poisoned chalice.

[Hibiza]

Second pick : Jon Dahl Tomasson.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think we must be honest and ask the right question, who worth their salt would come to hibs as no decent manager who values their own reputation would take what is regarded as a poisoned chalice.

Alternatively lots of managers would look at the resources they’re going to have and think I could improve them absolutely no bother.

[Col2]

Michael O’Neil would be both a fantastic appointment but also hugely popular.

[Iain G]

Mciness or Lennon, should have been the last time too.

Lennon! That's a joke in itself.

[WhileTheChief..]

Mciness or Lennon, should have been the last time too.

Yup, I'd be delighted with either of them. No more experiments.

[Saint Hibee]

this 110% :agree:

Yep, totally. They don't know what they're doing.

[stokesmessiah]

Second pick : Jon Dahl Tomasson.

Isn’t he the Sweden manager now?

[we are hibs]

Second pick : Jon Dahl Tomasson.

Now Sweden manager and wouldn't even entertain us now anyway after the way he was messed about last time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Isn’t he the Sweden manager now?

Yup

[EdinMike]

We can’t do this merry go round again… I have PTSD hiccups from this assignment 🤣

[Hibiza]

Fuzzy Bear .

[chrisski33]

Tbh who would want to be Hibs manager after our recent history with managers?

[Jim44]

The failure of most companies is not down to staff, foremen, or middle management. It’s down to poor management and clueless owners.

[big gogs]

He wouldn’t take it.

Take that for fact. He’s not that stupid.
A substantial salary might persuade him.,anyway Monty is going nowhere.in my humble opinion.

[Trinity Hibee]

Mcinnes or O’Neill

[Callum_62]

Now Sweden manager and wouldn't even entertain us now anyway after the way he was messed about last time.What did hibs do to mess him about?

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[JJP]

Not again…

[Trinity Hibee]

Not again…

You happy to stick with NM like?

[The Modfather]

Robbie Neilson

[Unseen work]

Martin O’Neill

Zeljko Sopic

Robbie Keane

Or anyone else as it doesn’t see to matter.

[Is It On....]

Fuzzy Bear .

Huggy Bear 👍

[JohnM1875]

Next appointment, and lets be honest, we all know it's coming, is probably the most important one in as long as I can remember.

No point hiring yet another dud with the new backing/investment.

I hope the Black Knights are heavily involved, cause Kensell, IG and McDermott absolutely cannot be trusted on their own.

[LeithMike]

It has to be O'Neill, the stars are lining up for this and he ticks a lot of boxes......
Strong Hibs connection and past fan favourite
Managed in Scotland before
Managed at quite a high level with Stoke where he did ok
League title winning manager in Ireland
Got N. Ireland to their first tournament in 30 years, even getting past the groups
His record gives him a bit of box office appeal
With BKFC behind us at a time where we are surely about to part ways with the current incumbent.....it must surely be the right time?

Michael O’Neill was terrible at Stoke. He’s done well in Ireland in terms of league football and that’s about it. International football is a different game and while he’s done really well there, it’s been about defending. I think he knows this too so highly doubt he’ll relinquish reigns at Northern Ireland for a job where if he doesn’t start well will be out of a job in 3 months.

Loved him as a player but a no from me. McInnes is a different kettle of fish. Yes there are some question marks about style but he’s managed teams from the lower regions and higher regions and got them all performing above their expectations. It’s sad that he won’t even be considered.


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[Since452]

Mind-blowing that McInnes was out of work when we appointed Maloney...
Three more wasted years of terrible appointments.

Don't trust Kensell / Gordon to do the right thing and worry it could be a repeat of this season with Monty hanging around over the summer, only to be shown the door early next term.

Honestly don't think McInnes would take the job. He'll have European football with Killie and doesn't need a modest pay rise... Is it a step too far too early for Ian Murray or Scott Brown / Steven Whittaker? Probably.

O'Neill seems to have priced himself out of the Aberdeen gig, so that would cost a pretty penny.

McInnes was quite similar to Ross. I think it was the sensible, obvious choice and he'd have been a good fit at that time with the players we had. Instead we tried to be too clever. As we were with LJ and as we were with Montgomery.

Sorry, all I'm doing is moaning but really pissed off that we've got into this state.

[K-Zazu]

Next appointment, and lets be honest, we all know it's coming, is probably the most important one in as long as I can remember.

No point hiring yet another dud with the new backing/investment.

I hope the Black Knights are heavily involved, cause Kensell, IG and McDermott absolutely cannot be trusted on their own.

I thought the black knights are not allowed to get involved in the football side/decision making?

[JohnM1875]

I thought the black knights are not allowed to get involved in the football side/decision making?

They have two members on the board. They'll (hopefully) be heavily involved.

[Libby Hibby]

Lennon

[Lago]

Micheal O'Neill is a certainty, I'd put a good few quid on him getting it. Great track record and a brilliant player for us. It's time.
Wasn't a success at Stoke

[The Tubs]

Lennon

Think I'd rather have Craig Levein.

[JohnM1875]

Think I'd rather have Craig Levein.

That's a lie that.

[fat freddy]

Ian Murray.

[The Tubs]

That's a lie that.

It really isn’t.

[JohnM1875]

It really isn’t.

Then you sir, are a mad man!

[H18 SFR]

More hospitality chat - ALF a possibility.

[scm70nyd1973]

Huggy Bear 👍

Fozzie Bear - ya muppets (sorry but I couldn’t resist 🤭)

[Chorley Hibee]

More hospitality chat - ALF a possibility.

As manager?

[H18 SFR]

As manager?

Apparently.

[JohnM1875]

More hospitality chat - ALF a possibility.

Must be serving some pretty strong drink in hospitality these days

[H18 SFR]

Must be serving some pretty strong drink in hospitality these days

Yeah, sounds a bit left field.

[Chorley Hibee]

Apparently.

As ridiculous as it sounds, it's exactly the type of nonsense that Hibs would probably go ahead with.

[H18 SFR]

As ridiculous as it sounds, it's exactly the type of nonsense that Hibs would probably go ahead with.

Similarly minded to be fair.

[Trinity Hibee]

As ridiculous as it sounds, it's exactly the type of nonsense that Hibs would probably go ahead with.

😂 true

[Cat Stanton]

They won't sack him. Not this season at least. They are still aware of knee-jerk reactions around Ross and Maloney, and the criticism they got. They will say there has been overall improvement, and he will have next season. If next season starts looking **** again, then they will review. But they won't be sacking him this season.

It's wishful thinking among those saying otherwise.

[Trinity Hibee]

They won't sack him. Not this season at least. They are still aware of knee-jerk reactions around Ross and Maloney, and the criticism they got. They will say there has been overall improvement, and he will have next season. If next season starts looking **** again, then they will review. But they won't be sacking him this season.

It's wishful thinking among those saying otherwise.

If they wait until the new season then it’s already too late. If he’s doesn’t make top 6 he’ll be gone anyway so we won’t need to worry

[Chorley Hibee]

They won't sack him. Not this season at least. They are still aware of knee-jerk reactions around Ross and Maloney, and the criticism they got. They will say there has been overall improvement, and he will have next season. If next season starts looking **** again, then they will review. But they won't be sacking him this season.

It's wishful thinking among those saying otherwise.

I sincerely hope you're wrong.

We're at the stage where we're just kicking the can down the road now.

There has to be action now.

[GreenCastle]

McInnes would demand a fortune in wages as knows Hibs are desperate.

Also he turned down Rangers when at Aberdeen ?

Could easily turn us down as he seems to only be going one way with Killie - new training ground - grass pitch - bigger crowds - Europe etc.

Probably even a strong chance of Scotland manager after Clarke following similar path.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They won't sack him. Not this season at least. They are still aware of knee-jerk reactions around Ross and Maloney, and the criticism they got. They will say there has been overall improvement, and he will have next season. If next season starts looking **** again, then they will review. But they won't be sacking him this season.

It's wishful thinking among those saying otherwise.

They will absolutely sack him if he finishes bottom 6. Absolutely no danger he’ll be here next season if that happens.

[A Hi-Bee]

Neil Lennon with Ian Murray.
:thumbsup:

[GreenCastle]

They will absolutely sack him if he finishes bottom 6. Absolutely no danger he’ll be here next season if that happens.

He was being sacked at 81 mins today but then Dundee lost 2 goals and Motherwell kept him in a job by winning.

Motherwell can now get him sacked next week if they beat Hibs.

[sleeping giant]

After a torturous few years , I'd bite your hand off for a McInnes or Robinson.

[A Hi-Bee]

After a torturous few years , I'd bite your hand off for a McInnes or Robinson.

Naw, not for me. why no throw Kettlewell and Levain in the pot as well.

[supermcginn]

Wasn't a success at Stoke

How did he do at Shamrock Rovers? Or in charge of northern Ireland? Especially against a seemingly amazing Scotland team last week when he was in charge of a team of nobodies apart from the boy from Liverpool?

[jakeshibs]

Lennon


No way.. he had us playing worse and in a lower league position

[Bertie Wooster]

If you are looking for a manager who can get third or fourth in the league then get someone who has either done that before in the Scottish league (McInnes for example) or a comparable league not someone who has the potential or is learning his craft. Hibs need to start employing people who have actually got success on their CV not the potential.

If the BK are wanting someone who can manage Hibs to get to third in the league and European football , they will have someone else in mind who can do just that. I think Foley will have recognised that the Gordons and Kensells of the world couldnt choose the next manager competently and will get someone else in , most probably someone from outside Scottish football.

NM has had his opportunity to audition for the role but he will know himself he is not up to the current job never mind trying to take Hibs to the next level.

[Crammond Hibee]

After a torturous few years , I'd bite your hand off for a McInnes or Robinson.

Me too

[Tambo]

Let's push the boat out and go for Jose Mourinho 😁

If it does happen at the end of the season then I just want someone who actually knows how to improve us as a team.

Yesterday seemed to have a bit of everything, poor at the back at times, not really creating much through the middle and very poor in the final third.

[K-Zazu]

More hospitality chat - ALF a possibility.

Eh?

[Centre Hawf]

I'd take Derek McInnes in a heartbeat now. Happily ride out a few years of being a competitive team again and some solid recruitment to get ourselves back into a half decent state to actually achieve something. I cannot be arsed with another project, just give me someone that knows what its like to go away to Ross County midweek and get a result, or how the League Cup group stage works without it needing explained to them like they're five years old.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd take Derek McInnes in a heartbeat now. Happily ride out a few years of being a competitive team again and some solid recruitment to get ourselves back into a half decent state to actually achieve something. I cannot be arsed with another project, just give me someone that knows what its like to go away to Ross County midweek and get a result, or how the League Cup group stage works without it needing explained to them like they're five years old.

Each to their own opinions mate ��
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6701325/aberdeen-worst-goalless-run-european-league/

https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/mcinnes-admits-dons-races-st-johnstone-defeat/

[Nicho87]

Derek McInnes - no more projects

Maloney - inexperienced
LJ - no Scottish managerial experience
Monty - see above

It’s never been more obvious is a simple choice

Experienced
Winner
No thrills

[Gettin' Auld]

It’s very unfortunate.

Can’t say how I know this but it’s straight from the horses mouth, he doesn’t want to work under an American ownership after cormack. I also don’t think a DOF would help hibs case.

Such a shame as he’d having us competing with hearts consistently.

The merry go round continues with absolutely mental left field appointments that are deemed ‘exciting’ and ‘a bit different’

Craig Levein taking 6 points off us as st Johnstone manager is certainly not ****ing exciting, although it might be ‘a bit different’

Cormack isn't an American

[bingo70]

Derek McInnes - no more projects

Maloney - inexperienced
LJ - no Scottish managerial experience
Monty - see above

It’s never been more obvious is a simple choice

Experienced
Winner
No thrills

Why is no thrills on your list? Is that not exactly what you want as a fan?

I don’t think there’s any chance whatsoever he would want the job so your one man list isn’t as simple as you’d like.

[Jones28]

What did hibs do to mess him about?

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Had the audacity to say his wage demands were too high.

[sauzee1989]

McInnes was the obvious choice last time and we must go for him now. Other than him I would take Ian Murray but that would be the cheap option.

[Trinity Hibee]

Mcinnes, o’neill, Robinson. Has to be one of those 3

[Crab apple]

McInnes for me. It's too soon for Ian Murray and I'm just not sure about Michael O'Neil now. Alex Neil would be a shout but I think he'll end up back at Sunderland despite his acrimonious departure last time.

[JimBHibees]

After a torturous few years , I'd bite your hand off for a McInnes or Robinson.

Both would get chased out by the fans for style of football

[1875M]

Both would get chased out by the fans for style of football

Yep. We need to play the ‘hibs way’, whatever the hell that is. Would rather win football matches personally.

[we are hibs]

Had the audacity to say his wage demands were too high.

That wasn't the case at all. Of course those who think the people running the club can do no wrong will blindly drink the Kool aid though.

[easty]

Both would get chased out by the fans for style of football

Maybe, but only in the long term.

They’d get results first, and fans would take that.

I think their “industrial” styles are just as exaggerated as the nonsense idea that Hibs play a better style of football.

[One Day Soon]

I’d take McInnes in a heartbeat and I’d be looking to try and pull in either Ian Murray or Scott Brown into the management structure too if that was possible. McInnes has the experience, knowledge and weight to make an impact on the squad and the club. Murray or Brown would bring the Hibs ‘cultural’ content we’ve been desperately missing. No danger anyone is taking a derby lightly with either of those two there.

It’s not like we couldn’t afford it, look at the money we’ve been pushing away in manager sackings, bloated squad and Kensell’s salary.

[He's here!]

He's taken 6 points from 2 games thus far.

I'll bet you money he makes it 9 points from 3 games if we finish bottom half.

He's always been a very decent club manager and carries too much savvy for a relative rookie like NM. He'd actually do a solid job at Hibs but that will obviously never happen.

I've stood by NM, but yesterday really exposed his inexperience.

[snedzuk]

Derek McInnes but I doubt he would take it.

For a box office move, OGS.

However, all irrelevant because even if we lose heavily on Saturday, I don't see NM going.

[He's here!]

Both would get chased out by the fans for style of football

Hard to believe we're still peddling this myth after watching years of mostly dross. Fans want a team which can win games. Stlye is secondary.

[sleeping giant]

Apparently.

Ffs lol. Surely no.

[MikeyS]

Each to their own opinions mate ��
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6701325/aberdeen-worst-goalless-run-european-league/

https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/mcinnes-admits-dons-races-st-johnstone-defeat/

Do you have an alert or something each team McIness, Keane or Lennon are mentioned on here?

[Hibees1973]

McInnes is a no brainer now. However, I feel this ship has sailed.

I reckon though that with the BK guys around the club now McInnes is not the kind of guy they would want. They will have their own guys in mind for manager. I've always felt that the last three guys appointed were either inexperienced and/or with little knowledge of the game in Scotland. Three managers who The Gordons and Kensell could manipulate and control. No danger they will be able to do this McInnes. At the AGM it was alluded that Ian Gordon still has some influence on recruitment. Another red flag for McInnes to avoid coming here.

Much as the BK's have a minority stake in the club, surely they would not want The Gordons and Kensell selecting another manager anyway.

What a mess.

[easty]

Each to their own opinions mate ��
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6701325/aberdeen-worst-goalless-run-european-league/

https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/mcinnes-admits-dons-races-st-johnstone-defeat/

That second link is about a game from a season where his Aberdeen side finished 2nd in the league, 9 points clear or Rangers. I’m no sure that’s the anti-McInnes flex you think it is.

[snedzuk]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/derek-mcinnes-reports-hibs-fan-28089842

Anyone know if this went any further.

[Jones28]

That wasn't the case at all. Of course those who think the people running the club can do no wrong will blindly drink the Kool aid though.

Care to enlighten me? I’ll try and read it but I’m so high on the kool aid I might struggle 🙄

[heid the baw]

Yep. We need to play the ‘hibs way’, whatever the hell that is. Would rather win football matches personally.

The 'Hibs way' thing is nonsense. We play in a league where you have to grind out results to be the best of the rest, a support act for the 2 horse race.
Hibs have scored more league goals (43) than Hearts (42) and Killie (41) this season.
Goals against Hibs (50) Hearts (32) Killie (34)
They win games by one goal margins week in, week out by keeping their shape, being organised and hard to break down. There is no point in labelling it boring football, it's just the reality. St Johnstone fans had a great day out yesterday despite their team only having 2 shots on target.
I would take boredom all day long if it meant being able to take a wee trip in Europe. Look at that lot, Thessaloniki, Trondheim, Florence, Istanbul, Riga, Zurich in the last 2 years
The people making the manager appointments need to stop fannying around, have a serious analytical look at Scottish football so that when they next interview they don't buy all the flannel and get someone in who knows how to get 3rd place.

[Hibees1973]

Know there are huge deficiencies in our squad, particularly in defence, but the standard of the SPFL is so poor that our squad is better than every club outside of the top 3. Take Shankland out of the Yam squad and we are not far off them.

This means that the manager has been unable to motivate and organise them to get us into the top 4.

He has to be sacked immediately.

What reasons are there for him to remain?

[bingo70]

Yep. We need to play the ‘hibs way’, whatever the hell that is. Would rather win football matches personally.

The only people who ever talk about Hibs way are people like you who don’t care about it.

[Callum_62]

That wasn't the case at all. Of course those who think the people running the club can do no wrong will blindly drink the Kool aid though.So enlighten us. What did hibs do to "mess him about?"

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[WhileTheChief..]

We've had people telling us for years to get behind the manager, so it follows they would get behind McInnes or Lennon, no?

I don't see how either of them would be more of a risk than continuing the way we are.

[Brightside]

We've had people telling us for years to get behind the manager, so it follows they would get behind McInnes or Lennon, no?

I don't see how either of them would be more of a risk than continuing the way we are.

Lennon can’t get a job anywhere. So we don’t need to worry about getting behind him.

[Libby Hibby]

Derek McInnes - no more projects

Maloney - inexperienced
LJ - no Scottish managerial experience
Monty - see above

It’s never been more obvious is a simple choice

Experienced
Winner
No thrills

McInnes (He won’t come) or Lennon for me

[Rumble de Thump]

If the referees hadn't made so many blatantly incorrect and major decisions against us throughout this season, which also in turn worked in our opponents' favour, we would be wondering whether we'll finish third or fourth. Top six would have been secured weeks ago.

[Jones28]

Robinson would be my preference but would be delighted with him or mcinnes.

Murray might be in with a shout as well, impressive what he’s done with Raith and he’s got a decent bit of experience behind him now.

Imrie has worked relative wonders with Greenock Morton as well, not that I would clamour after him, but there’s some really good young coaches in Scotland at the moment.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Robinson would be my preference but would be delighted with him or mcinnes.

Murray might be in with a shout as well, impressive what he’s done with Raith and he’s got a decent bit of experience behind him now.

Imrie has worked relative wonders with Greenock Morton as well, not that I would clamour after him, but there’s some really good young coaches in Scotland at the moment.

McCabe at Airdrie appears the pick of the lower league managers from me. That being said, I’d rather we avoided that market.

[Alfred E Newman]

Yep. We need to play the ‘hibs way’, whatever the hell that is. Would rather win football matches personally.

Yesterday was a perfect example of playing the “Hibs Way”

[Jones28]

McCabe at Airdrie appears the pick of the lower league managers from me. That being said, I’d rather we avoided that market.

I’d agree with this in fairness, no need to experiment at the moment.

[Donegal Hibby]

Both would get chased out by the fans for style of football

:agree:

[Aldo]

McCabe at Airdrie appears the pick of the lower league managers from me. That being said, I’d rather we avoided that market.

Agree with this.

I am not itk but would be surprised if it is any manager in Scotland. Heay but what do I know!

[Callum_62]

I have zero appetite for any manager from the league below to be honest

If we are changing - and I feel it's somewhat inevitable - I want someone with a reasonable profile

In Scotland I'd still advocate for Mcinnes

Dunno why but I've somewhat went off from Robinson.

Id be over the moon with someone like Knutsen or some absolutely radge South American

Neilo Lennonio [emoji38]

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[WhileTheChief..]

Lennon can’t get a job anywhere. So we don’t need to worry about getting behind him.

You sound confident, what have you heard?

[Unseen work]

Wait, there’s chat in hospitality that Montgomery is leaving and being replaced by Le Fondre?

No danger

[Centre Hawf]

Each to their own opinions mate ��
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6701325/aberdeen-worst-goalless-run-european-league/

https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/mcinnes-admits-dons-races-st-johnstone-defeat/

Not sure what this proves? That he can’t win every game known to man? Yet you back the last two clowns?

[Donegal Hibby]

Not sure what this proves? That he can’t win every game known to man? Yet you back the last two clowns?

Not just winning he couldn't do , but scoring goals seemed to be a massive problem . Just proves that he's not the Pepe Guardiola some of you make out he is . I'll always back the manager of Hibs .

[Since90+2]

McInnes was the obvious answer before and whenever NM goes he's still the obvious go to.

[Libby Hibby]

Monty Out, Lennon in

[Centre Hawf]

Not just winning he couldn't do , but scoring goals seemed to be a massive problem . Just proves that he's not the Pepe Guardiola some of you make out he is . I'll always back the manager of Hibs .

He’s once had his team score 18 more goals than Rangers and finished ahead of them. The next session he scored 18 less than them and still finished ahead of them.

The guy knows what it takes to be competitive week in week out and that’s to stop conceding soft goals.

[Is It On....]

McCabe at Airdrie appears the pick of the lower league managers from me. That being said, I’d rather we avoided that market.

He has a 50% win ratio. Since 2018 Ian Murray has a 46% win ratio.

[bingo70]

Next manager will be Scott Parker.

I’ve just completely made that up but I’m running with it. Well known and respected by the people at Bournemouth and I think we will be leaning on their knowledge for our next appointment. The fact he knows Bournemouth inside out as well will help with any transition of players between the clubs.

[eastmainsmsh]

I think Monty needs to get an experienced number 2 like Stuart Mcall we need to stop this merry go roundabout

[sleeping giant]

I think Monty needs to get an experienced number 2 like Stuart Mcall we need to stop this merry go roundabout

Oh jeez. 😄

[Bridge hibs]

I think Monty needs to get an experienced number 2 like Stuart Mcall we need to stop this merry go roundabout

Ffs, would be better with Davina Mcall

[eastmainsmsh]

Oh jeez. 😄
lol it’s getting nightmarish following hind the now reconsidering renewal for next season something has to happen

[Donegal Hibby]

He’s once had his team score 18 more goals than Rangers and finished ahead of them. The next session he scored 18 less than them and still finished ahead of them.

The guy knows what it takes to be competitive week in week out and that’s to stop conceding soft goals.

Your talking about a Sevco team that was nothing of the quality it is now though. His football isn't good to watch plus the fact is he a manager that would get most fans on board ? , I don't think he is personally.

Aberdeen are apparently trying to get Jimmy Thelin a swede who's in charge of Elsborg as manager. There's a reason why the dons are looking further a field than Lennon , Robinson and McInnes who was already their manager . Why you think that is ? .

He isn't always competitive and stops soft goals though and when that happens your just left with the ***** football his teams play like this one ...... Probably one of the worst games I watched this season as both teams played
hoofball .

https://youtu.be/p5rzp4ir6rc?si=i2evFUsGrGmd3HcM

[andrew_dundee]

The criteria for the next manager surely has to be that they have had success at an SPL level. I wouldn't want anyone without that experience.

Too many experiments have given us too many crap results.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Your talking about a Sevco team that was nothing of the quality it is now though. His football isn't good to watch plus the fact is he a manager that would get most fans on board ? , I don't think he is personally.

Aberdeen are apparently trying to get Jimmy Thelin a swede who's in charge of Elsborg as manager. There's a reason why the dons are looking further a field than Lennon , Robinson and McInnes who was already their manager . Why you think that is ? .

He isn't always competitive and stops soft goals though and when that happens your just left with the ***** football his teams play like this one ...... Probably one of the worst games I watched this season as both teams played
hoofball .

https://youtu.be/p5rzp4ir6rc?si=i2evFUsGrGmd3HcM

Just to be clear, this is the same Aberdeen that appointed Neil Warnock and then let him go about 4 games later? You’re using them as an example of how to appoint a manager?

[jeffers]

The criteria for the next manager surely has to be that they have had success at an SPL level. I wouldn't want anyone without that experience.

Too many experiments have given us too many crap results.

If he’s the right man where he has managed previously shouldn’t come into it.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yep. We need to play the ‘hibs way’, whatever the hell that is. Would rather win football matches personally.

The Hibs way is normally boring losing football.

[sauzee1989]

The 'Hibs way' thing is nonsense. We play in a league where you have to grind out results to be the best of the rest, a support act for the 2 horse race.
Hibs have scored more league goals (43) than Hearts (42) and Killie (41) this season.
Goals against Hibs (50) Hearts (32) Killie (34)
They win games by one goal margins week in, week out by keeping their shape, being organised and hard to break down. There is no point in labelling it boring football, it's just the reality. St Johnstone fans had a great day out yesterday despite their team only having 2 shots on target.
I would take boredom all day long if it meant being able to take a wee trip in Europe. Look at that lot, Thessaloniki, Trondheim, Florence, Istanbul, Riga, Zurich in the last 2 years
The people making the manager appointments need to stop fannying around, have a serious analytical look at Scottish football so that when they next interview they don't buy all the flannel and get someone in who knows how to get 3rd place.

Because we have been soft as **** at centre back for years and fish hasn’t helped that either

[blackpoolhibs]

Not just winning he couldn't do , but scoring goals seemed to be a massive problem . Just proves that he's not the Pepe Guardiola some of you make out he is . I'll always back the manager of Hibs .

One of those clips was about them not scoring goals in Europe, FFS unless NM stays in the job and takes the team to Magaluf next pre season, that's the nearest this clown will get to it.

[greenlex]

I think it’ll be Monty and Co long term and it will be a success. It shouldn’t be but it will.

[Donegal Hibby]

Just to be clear, this is the same Aberdeen that appointed Neil Warnock and then let him go about 4 games later? You’re using them as an example of how to appoint a manager?

No but if we are needing a manager then there's more options out in the world than Derek McInnes and his style of football though. Think what Aberdeen are trying is exciting and ambitious tbh .

[Not So Young]

Ian Murray


I said this before Monty was appointed. I still think he would be a very good appointment.

[Centre Hawf]

Your talking about a Sevco team that was nothing of the quality it is now though. His football isn't good to watch plus the fact is he a manager that would get most fans on board ? , I don't think he is personally.

Aberdeen are apparently trying to get Jimmy Thelin a swede who's in charge of Elsborg as manager. There's a reason why the dons are looking further a field than Lennon , Robinson and McInnes who was already their manager . Why you think that is ? .

He isn't always competitive and stops soft goals though and when that happens your just left with the ***** football his teams play like this one ...... Probably one of the worst games I watched this season as both teams played
hoofball .

https://youtu.be/p5rzp4ir6rc?si=i2evFUsGrGmd3HcM

You keep throwing one off examples of bad games to justify your position on him, some of them stretching back 4/5 years ago! If we did similar with everyone we would never find a manager again if that was the criteria.

At least look at what he achieves over the course of a season and tell me what he’s failed at other than finishing 4th behind Hibs during covid? He’s met his targets and excelled in some cases. It didn’t matter if Rangers weren’t the same Rangers they are now, the Rangers we beat in 2016 were poor in comparison but the cup win was still an achievement worth celebrating even when you strip out the 114 year wait.

In terms of the football style you can’t tell me he’d be any worse stylistically than whatever it is we have now?

[He's here!]

The Hibs way is normally boring losing football.

Sad but true.

[LaMotta]

Not just winning he couldn't do , but scoring goals seemed to be a massive problem . Just proves that he's not the Pepe Guardiola some of you make out he is . I'll always back the manager of Hibs .


Scoring goals was a problem for McIness at Aberdeen?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38973451

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39376258

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42290488

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46516333

His team scored also 4 goals in a game countless times in matches throughout his time there.

[andrew70]

I think it’ll be Monty and Co long term and it will be a success. It shouldn’t be but it will.

“And it will be a success.
It shouldn’t be but it will”

Reads a bit like you don’t want success because it’s Montgomery.

I get it’s marmite just now but if it’s a success then fair play to him for turning it around but some on here are missing the common denominator in all this.

[hibeerealist]

If you are looking for a manager who can get third or fourth in the league then get someone who has either done that before in the Scottish league (McInnes for example) or a comparable league not someone who has the potential or is learning his craft. Hibs need to start employing people who have actually got success on their CV not the potential.

If the BK are wanting someone who can manage Hibs to get to third in the league and European football , they will have someone else in mind who can do just that. I think Foley will have recognised that the Gordons and Kensells of the world couldnt choose the next manager competently and will get someone else in , most probably someone from outside Scottish football.

NM has had his opportunity to audition for the role but he will know himself he is not up to the current job never mind trying to take Hibs to the next level.


Spot on Bertie, the BK's are NOT going to sit quiet while NM or another "project" comes in to manage our great club AND their investment.

The manager at a football club is THE most important person in the chain and the last three or four we have engaged were nowhere near that status.

We do not need to panic, NM is going and a suitable candidate will be provided in due course.

[snedzuk]

Your talking about a Sevco team that was nothing of the quality it is now though. His football isn't good to watch plus the fact is he a manager that would get most fans on board ? , I don't think he is personally.

Aberdeen are apparently trying to get Jimmy Thelin a swede who's in charge of Elsborg as manager. There's a reason why the dons are looking further a field than Lennon , Robinson and McInnes who was already their manager . Why you think that is ? .

He isn't always competitive and stops soft goals though and when that happens your just left with the ***** football his teams play like this one ...... Probably one of the worst games I watched this season as both teams played
hoofball .

https://youtu.be/p5rzp4ir6rc?si=i2evFUsGrGmd3HcM


How about the Sevco team Killie beat 1-0 this season.

[blackpoolhibs]

How about the Sevco team Killie beat 1-0 this season.

:shhhsh!:

[Liam978]

Your talking about a Sevco team that was nothing of the quality it is now though. His football isn't good to watch plus the fact is he a manager that would get most fans on board ? , I don't think he is personally.

Aberdeen are apparently trying to get Jimmy Thelin a swede who's in charge of Elsborg as manager. There's a reason why the dons are looking further a field than Lennon , Robinson and McInnes who was already their manager . Why you think that is ? .

He isn't always competitive and stops soft goals though and when that happens your just left with the ***** football his teams play like this one ...... Probably one of the worst games I watched this season as both teams played
hoofball .

https://youtu.be/p5rzp4ir6rc?si=i2evFUsGrGmd3HcM
Maybe a lot to do with their ranks don't include many Scots these days, some like ourselves, we had only two involved yesterday three if we class the Aussie Boyler as a Scot.

[ScottB]

Maybe a lot to do with their ranks don't include many Scots these days, some like ourselves, we had only two involved yesterday three if we class the Aussie Boyler as a Scot.

Given he was born in Aberdeen, I think we can safely include Boyle as a Scot!

[Donegal Hibby]

How about the Sevco team Killie beat 1-0 this season.

That was at Rugby park on a worn out plastic pitch that's passed the stage were football should be played on though wasn't it ? .

Why not appoint Jack Ross instead who also knows how to beat Sevco as well ? .

Seen the other post though can't answer them all , didn't realise the Derek McInnes fan club was so big , personally I don't think his teams play nice football and he'd be a totally uninspiring appointment. Each to their own opinions though 👍.

Honestly imo if Monty does go I don't think the Hibs board will even consider either McInnes or Lennon , McInnes I'd doubt would want to come to us anyhow . Both I'd be quite happy to see us overlook again 😉

[greenlex]

“And it will be a success.
It shouldn’t be but it will”

Reads a bit like you don’t want success because it’s Montgomery.

I get it’s marmite just now but if it’s a success then fair play to him for turning it around but some on here are missing the common denominator in all this.
No I think he should be gone that’s where the shouldn’t be comes from. If he is fair play to him and the board. It will happen because it’s the kind of thing Hibs do. The exact opposite of what we should do.

[J-C]

Maybe a lot to do with their ranks don't include many Scots these days, some like ourselves, we had only two involved yesterday three if we class the Aussie Boyler as a Scot.

Plays for Australia due to his dad.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

The criteria for the next manager surely has to be that they have had success at an SPL level. I wouldn't want anyone without that experience.

Too many experiments have given us too many crap results.

Define ‘success at an SPL level’ as that could be a short and unrealistic list.

[Niffy]

Plays for Australia due to his dad.

Granny

[snedzuk]

That was at Rugby park on a worn out plastic pitch that's passed the stage were football should be played on though wasn't it ? .

Why not appoint Jack Ross instead who also knows how to beat Sevco as well ? .

Seen the other post though can't answer them all , didn't realise the Derek McInnes fan club was so big , personally I don't think his teams play nice football and he'd be a totally uninspiring appointment. Each to their own opinions though 👍.

Honestly imo if Monty does go I don't think the Hibs board will even consider either McInnes or Lennon , McInnes I'd doubt would want to come to us anyhow . Both I'd be quite happy to see us overlook again 😉

In fairness, you've made your view on Derek McInnes clear, but you've also said you'd back whoever it was, so fair play.

[badabing67]

Next manager will be Scott Parker.

I’ve just completely made that up but I’m running with it. Well known and respected by the people at Bournemouth and I think we will be leaning on their knowledge for our next appointment. The fact he knows Bournemouth inside out as well will help with any transition of players between the clubs.


How long has he been out of a job

[bingo70]

How long has he been out of a job

About a year.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

My neighbour just said that Killie have been approached from Aberdeen about McInnes?

[J-C]

Granny

Boyle is eligible to play for Australia through his Sydney-born father and set foot Down Under for the one-and-only time so far in September 2018 for his Socceroos debut in friendlies against South Korea and Lebanon.

[hibees 7062]

Tony Docherty?

[allezsauzee]

McInnes rejected Sunderland and Rangers approaches when he was at Aberdeen so I would imagine it's by no means a gimme that he'd want to be our manager even if we offered him the role. Sadly I think we'll go through a few more projects and probably burn through Foley's investment before we come to the conclusion that a safe pair of hands is what we need.

[Donegal Hibby]

In fairness, you've made your view on Derek McInnes clear, but you've also said you'd back whoever it was, so fair play.

If he was our manager I would indeed back him even though I suspect with the style of football he plays it would all end in tears anyhow . Knowing me I'd probably end up defending him against all of you that wanted him in that would eventually want him out 🤣🤣🤣

[SteveHFC]

Nice football wins you nothing, hard work and good defending and game management gives you a better chance to win. I know what I want to see

That was at Rugby park on a worn out plastic pitch that's passed the stage were football should be played on though wasn't it ? .

Why not appoint Jack Ross instead who also knows how to beat Sevco as well ? .

Seen the other post though can't answer them all , didn't realise the Derek McInnes fan club was so big , personally I don't think his teams play nice football and he'd be a totally uninspiring appointment. Each to their own opinions though 👍.

Honestly imo if Monty does go I don't think the Hibs board will even consider either McInnes or Lennon , McInnes I'd doubt would want to come to us anyhow . Both I'd be quite happy to see us overlook again 😉

[CapitalGreen]

Preferably someone who doesn’t give everyone a clean slate and doesn’t build the team around Joe Newell.

[GreenCastle]

Preferably someone who doesn’t give everyone a clean slate and doesn’t build the team around Joe Newell.

Yup - someone who has watched it and knows what the issues are.

Doesn’t take months to work it out with different combinations.

A leader who comes in and unites the fans and make us hard to beat. Hearts at Tynecastle don’t lose many games. Hibs seems to be so soft at Easter Road.


No more experiments - just someone who makes an impact and improves us over time.

Also check if they are stubborn and play 4-4-2 before any hiring.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nice football wins you nothing, hard work and good defending and game management gives you a better chance to win. I know what I want to see

Don't really agree that good football doesn't win you nothing , we won a Scottish cup by playing good football , Mowbray era as well , Burnley last year , leeds this year , many many examples that good football can imo .

[NC1875]

Alex Neil or Michael ONeil

[Unseen work]

Alex Neil or Michael ONeil

Alex Neil is a no brainer for me, but I think he has no interest in returning to Scotland.

Michael O’Neill I’m a bit unsure of, I’m not sure how one of his teams would cope being the one with the majority of possession and require to break teams down.

[1875Sean]

Alex Neil or Michael ONeil

Would take O’Neil but he had a 5 year contract and will be on a huge wage which I doubt we could match

[The Wireless]

Alex Neil or Michael ONeil
Alex Neil 🫤 Sacked by Preston, Sunderland, Stoke & Preston. Aye a No Brainer for me as well.

[Silky]

Alex Neil 🫤 Sacked by Preston, Sunderland, Stoke & Preston. Aye a No Brainer for me as well.

May as well add Hibs to that list!

[1875Sean]

Alex Neil 🫤 Sacked by Preston, Sunderland, Stoke & Preston. Aye a No Brainer for me as well.

Alex Neil leave Sunderland for Stoke, he wasn’t sacked! Plus you incudles Preston twice!

[LaMotta]

Alex Neil 🫤 Sacked by Preston, Sunderland, Stoke & Preston. Aye a No Brainer for me as well.

How many managers don't get sacked? Bit unfair to be listing the Preston sacking twice. Also you missed out his highly impressive promotions with Hamilton and Norwich. And - he didn't get sacked by Sunderland - he left them of his own accord after another successful promotion....

All in all your post is a bit off the mark :greengrin

[andrew70]

Preferably someone who doesn’t give everyone a clean slate and doesn’t build the team around Joe Newell.

This. Empty him asap.

[flash]

I want one of those crazy German managers who are so popular these days.

[bod]

Steve Clark

[Since452]

Alex Neil for me would be a good fit. I'm pretty sure it was reported after we sacked LJ that he has no desire to return Scotland to manage anytime soon. That may be different now right enough!

I wanted Robinson in last time. He's young and hungry, still punching above his weight in our league and plays decent football from what i've seen. McInnes too is an obvious shout but he's taking Kilmarnock into Europe and seems to be settled. Think that ship has sailed.

[Since452]

I want one of those crazy German managers who are so popular these days.

Only if he wears a baseball hat.

[heretoday]

I want one of those crazy German managers who are so popular these days.

The more angry he is the wider the grin.

[flash]

Only if he wears a baseball hat.

Backwards.

[sauzee1989]

Alex Neil for me would be a good fit. I'm pretty sure it was reported after we sacked LJ that he has no desire to return Scotland to manage anytime soon. That may be different now right enough!

I wanted Robinson in last time. He's young and hungry, still punching above his weight in our league and plays decent football from what i've seen. McInnes too is an obvious shout but he's taking Kilmarnock into Europe and seems to be settled. Think that ship has sailed.

Need a longer term appointment as Alex Neil would leave at the offer of any job down south

[1875M]

I would throw everything at McInnes if NM is away. However, I don’t think he’d take it. Failing that, I like Robinson at St Mirren. There’s a few left field options like Steve Cooper and Scott Parker as well but I’d rather McInnes or Robinson. Think he deserves a chance at a bigger club. Seen Tony Docherty’s name mentioned too which is an interesting shout.

[Callum_62]

Need a longer term appointment as Alex Neil would leave at the offer of any job down southSo would pretty much anyone we employ

Let's hope whoever it is has an offer from down south and that only means they are doing the business for us

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[The Modfather]

I want one of those crazy German managers who are so popular these days.

Stendel?

[flash]

Stendel?

He was definitely crazy.

[ancient hibee]

I would throw everything at McInnes if NM is away. However, I don’t think he’d take it. Failing that, I like Robinson at St Mirren. There’s a few left field options like Steve Cooper and Scott Parker as well but I’d rather McInnes or Robinson. Think he deserves a chance at a bigger club. Seen Tony Docherty’s name mentioned too which is an interesting shout.

Think we've had enough left field choices.

[bingo70]

Think we've had enough left field choices.

Never, don’t be such a *****bag 😉

If we look at genuine contenders for non left field options and people who have achieved genuine success in Scotland and/or elsewhere, what options do we have?

Lennon- we know that he comes with risks.

Mcinnes- less than 0 chance he comes to us imo.

Alex Neil- don’t think he’s done particularly well in his last couple of jobs?

Robinson- don’t think he’s really achieved that much and would his relative success translate to a bigger club with more pressure? Might do but I’m not sure it would.

Michael O’Neill- had a shocker in his last club job I think, seems to have found his niche with the Norn Ireland job.

I wouldn’t actually be against any of the above and I can see the appeal in all of them, I just don’t think any of them, other than maybe McInnes who I don’t think would touch us, would guarantee the success I think people want by going for a safe option?

IMO there is no cast iron certainty for success, there will be people who have done good jobs at one club but bombed elsewhere. Appointing a manger isn’t an exact science, assuming we are replacing Montgomery soon which looks inevitable, I’ll look at the positives for whoever we appoint and hope for the best.

Ideally it’s a mental chain smoking South American though.

[Brizo]

Unfortunately, I don't see things under Monty picking up between now and the end of the season, and think the number of ST renewals and hospitality package take-ups will be the determining corporate and economic factors on whether Foley/ Gordons risk giving him another season.

Replacement wise I'm not for going back to a previous manager and think it would only take a couple of poor results under Lennon for the many who didn't want him back to revisit the nature of his departure and it to become an untenable situation for him. Likewise a couple of bad results under McIness and those who never wanted him would be pushing his style of football as the narrative. If either went on a poor run I think the levels of discontent would be such that they wouldn't be given the time to turn it around.

For me after three appointments of managers with no SPFL experience, it needs to be back to someone who has. Robinson or Docherty are the likeliest candidates for me from that pool. I'd edge towards Robinson as he may think he's taken St Mirren as far as he can while Docherty has had a great season but its only one season and he might also want to build on that success with Dundee next season.

[ScottB]

When we say no left field choices / go sensible, the left field ones seem to work well enough for other clubs?

We all laughed at Naismith getting the Hearts job, and they’ve strolled to third place under him. Folk want Robinson, but would they have been in favour of him when St Mirren went in for him?

There’s plenty different types of manager; promising rookie coach, experienced (in Scotland or not), manager from a lower level hopefully on an upward trajectory etc etc. All of those can work out if you pick the right guy, all of those can fail if you don’t. We’ve tried them all under the Gordon’s and failed each time, which would be the concern, if there’s no support from the BKs, I don’t see any reason not to expect the same outcome from whatever approach they’d jump to next.

[Mainstandman]

We want to target 3/4 th every year. rough glance at the last ten years shows the best performers are Scottish/Uk managers with experience here. Lennon and Ross are the two like this we have had and they finished 3/4 but we keep, it appears, searching for a more interesting appointment.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bingos Scott Parker shout is probably the most interesting one I’ve seen so far. Managed at a good level, knows Bournemouth well, he’s probably fairly well known by BKFC.

From the names so far suggested, he’d be my pick, especially on the presumption McInnes wouldn’t come. Whether he’d be realistic or not is another thing altogether. He’s not an EPL level manager at this point, he failed in his last job at Bruuge, so I’d think mid table Championship is probably his ceiling, maybe even bottom half. An attractive package and him being given assurances of major backing could see him interested maybe?

[Gaffer1875]

Ian Murray and Kevin Thomson. I await the abuse.


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[Bridge hibs]

Ian Murray and Kevin Thomson. I await the abuse.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThomson 🤣 what has he done of note other than getting promotion with Kelty H****s on an inflated budget then jacking it in ?

Murray doesnt have the experience, we have went down that route already and thats why we are still ****

[Exuberance1875]

I’d take Ian Murray in a heartbeat. His side play good stuff and had progressed himself up the leagues.

Also knows what it means to play for Hibs

[04Sauzee]

Thomson 🤣 what has he done of note other than getting promotion with Kelty H****s on an inflated budget then jacking it in ?

Murray doesnt have the experience, we have went down that route already and thats why we are still ****
Not saying it should be Murray when there is a position to be filled at Hibs, but what experience do you want him to have? He's a Hibs fan who played for Hibs, played at international level. Has over 360 managerial games under his belt. Does he need to win leagues before he's appointed Hibs manager?

[Unseen work]

Bingos Scott Parker shout is probably the most interesting one I’ve seen so far. Managed at a good level, knows Bournemouth well, he’s probably fairly well known by BKFC.

From the names so far suggested, he’d be my pick, especially on the presumption McInnes wouldn’t come. Whether he’d be realistic or not is another thing altogether. He’s not an EPL level manager at this point, he failed in his last job at Bruuge, so I’d think mid table Championship is probably his ceiling, maybe even bottom half. An attractive package and him being given assurances of major backing could see him interested maybe?

I know next to nothing about Scott Parker, but I can just imagine him coming up here with a real arrogance and not understanding Scottish football at all.

He’s one on paper you think yeah could be good, but I think in reality he’d fail with us.

All based on absolutely nothing 🤣

[jeffers]

I know next to nothing about Scott Parker, but I can just imagine him coming up here with a real arrogance and not understanding Scottish football at all.

He’s one on paper you think yeah could be good, but I think in reality he’d fail with us.

All based on absolutely nothing 🤣

I’m sure he used to wear a cardigan come jacket at one point. On that basis he’s a big no for me. :greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

Not saying it should be Murray when there is a position to be filled at Hibs, but what experience do you want him to have? He's a Hibs fan who played for Hibs, played at international level. Has over 360 managerial games under his belt. Does he need to win leagues before he's appointed Hibs manager?I want a manager who can manage a football team, experience is important for me anyway, especially after the **** show with our previous managers. I quite like what Murray is doing but I would rather we looked at tried and tested

[Alex Trager]

Bingos Scott Parker shout is probably the most interesting one I’ve seen so far. Managed at a good level, knows Bournemouth well, he’s probably fairly well known by BKFC.

From the names so far suggested, he’d be my pick, especially on the presumption McInnes wouldn’t come. Whether he’d be realistic or not is another thing altogether. He’s not an EPL level manager at this point, he failed in his last job at Bruuge, so I’d think mid table Championship is probably his ceiling, maybe even bottom half. An attractive package and him being given assurances of major backing could see him interested maybe?

What’s he done that would attract you to him? (In a managerial sense -though if you fancy him sound. I don’t like his ***** cardigans).

[Since452]

I know next to nothing about Scott Parker, but I can just imagine him coming up here with a real arrogance and not understanding Scottish football at all.

He’s one on paper you think yeah could be good, but I think in reality he’d fail with us.

All based on absolutely nothing 🤣

That's my worry. And like you, based on nothing.

I really think that this time we need to go back to basics in terms of tried and tested in Scotland to get a decent foundation to build on. We are probably the most un-streetwise team in the league.

[bingo70]

What’s he done that would attract you to him? (In a managerial sense -though if you fancy him sound. I don’t like his ***** cardigans).

He’s done a really good job in 2 of his 3 jobs so far. He got Fulham and Bournemouth promoted to the premiership which isn’t easy, the fact he’s done it twice suggests there’s more to him than a flash on the pan that got lucky with a good squad of players.

He does come across very arrogant, I’m not convinced that’s a bad thing, if anything Monty could do with being a bit more sure of himself in how he comes across in the media.

[Alex Trager]

He’s done a really good job in 2 of his 3 jobs so far. He got Fulham and Bournemouth promoted to the premiership which isn’t easy, the fact he’s done it twice suggests there’s more to him than a flash on the pan that got lucky with a good squad of players.

He does come across very arrogant, I’m not convinced that’s a bad thing, if anything Monty could do with being a bit more sure of himself in how he comes across in the media.
Fair enough. Never knew much about him except his team got mauled at Anfield and he was wearing that awful cardigan.

Arrogance is fine.

Arrogance about our game is most certainly not.

[Brizo]

I’m sure he used to wear a cardigan come jacket at one point. On that basis he’s a big no for me. :greengrin

me too, worryingly Jamboesque :greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s done a really good job in 2 of his 3 jobs so far. He got Fulham and Bournemouth promoted to the premiership which isn’t easy, the fact he’s done it twice suggests there’s more to him than a flash on the pan that got lucky with a good squad of players.

He does come across very arrogant, I’m not convinced that’s a bad thing, if anything Monty could do with being a bit more sure of himself in how he comes across in the media.

Don’t disagree with that. I wouldn’t read too much into his spells in the Premiership. It’s such a high standard and on top of that, we’d be looking for a manager who’s going to dominate games/win more weeks than not. When he’s been in the Championship, he’s done that. Im not all that interested on how he done trying to battle against the odds in the Premiership as it’s not the type of job he’d be taking on here.

[ScottB]

Didn’t Parker kind of **** off Bournemouth after the Liverpool tanking so they sacked him? Might not suggest he’d be a likely pick by the BKs?

[Tyler Durden]

Didn’t Parker kind of **** off Bournemouth after the Liverpool tanking so they sacked him? Might not suggest he’d be a likely pick by the BKs?

Yes think he's burnt his bridges there.

[Winston Ingram]

Parker did a terrible job at Club Bruges.

Was there for 10 weeks and won 2 games in 12.

[sleeping giant]

I didn't want Mowbray or Stubbs.
I wanted Butcher , Williamson and was really excited with Calderwood.
😁

[LustForLeith]

Anyone know much about this guy

https://www.afcb.co.uk/teams/staff-profiles/tommy-elphick/

Club legend. Most successful captain to play for the club. Currently on the coaching staff, you could imagine the club looking to get him
Experience before he got the main job

[Nicho87]

Where has the chat / thoughts came about of McInnes not wanting to come - I understand it’s just personal opinion

But for me, I reckon he’d be interested to hear hibs plans

Positives with moving:
Probably 10 x plus the budget he’s on just now.
Aiming to be best of the rest
Aiming for cup wins regularly
European football regularly
Long term foley talked about catching up with the uglies.


Negatives
We don’t give managers time
Complete rebuild
He has killie in a good place
Has he ambitions to go to national job or England again rather than Hibs?

I really am rooting for McInnes being appointed, I think he’s exactly what we need.

Really hope he thinks he can be the man to get Hibs off on the right track and turn us around

[The Modfather]

I hope it is Parker if it only for his The Streets interviews

https://youtu.be/t3J1fC11CBk?si=EXGfa5UT2XEZBZB9

[Unseen work]

Where has the chat / thoughts came about of McInnes not wanting to come - I understand it’s just personal opinion

But for me, I reckon he’d be interested to hear hibs plans

Positives with moving:
Probably 10 x plus the budget he’s on just now.
Aiming to be best of the rest
Aiming for cup wins regularly
European football regularly
Long term foley talked about catching up with the uglies.


Negatives
We don’t give managers time
Complete rebuild
He has killie in a good place
Has he ambitions to go to national job or England again rather than Hibs?

I really am rooting for McInnes being appointed, I think he’s exactly what we need.

Really hope he thinks he can be the man to get Hibs off on the right track and turn us around

I don’t think mcinnes would trust a single thing anyone at Hibs said and is a guy that will really dislike how we do/did things.

If interviewed I don’t think he’d be long in saying how many mistakes we’ve made and things he disagrees with, probably all to do with recruitment etc.

Exactly what we need imo, but how that would go down I don’t know.

I just can’t imagine mcinnes ever seeing us as a good option unfortunately. Hes turned down big clubs before

[The Harp Awakes]

Where has the chat / thoughts came about of McInnes not wanting to come - I understand it’s just personal opinion

But for me, I reckon he’d be interested to hear hibs plans

Positives with moving:
Probably 10 x plus the budget he’s on just now.
Aiming to be best of the rest
Aiming for cup wins regularly
European football regularly
Long term foley talked about catching up with the uglies.


Negatives
We don’t give managers time
Complete rebuild
He has killie in a good place
Has he ambitions to go to national job or England again rather than Hibs?

I really am rooting for McInnes being appointed, I think he’s exactly what we need.

Really hope he thinks he can be the man to get Hibs off on the right track and turn us around

McInnes by all accounts turned down the Rangers job when at Aberdeen, so it's by no means a certainty he would take the Hibs job if asked.

If he was interested it would be a no brainier for me. His record at Aberdeen and Killie speaks for itself.

If McInnes was unavailable, I'd go for Lennon on a short term rolling contract.

Both these guys would be a massive upgrade on NM and the previous 2 Managers and I think they would have an instant impact.

Ian Murray has done well with Airdrie and Raith. Clearly less experience and track record than the other 2, but certainly worth considering.

[Since90+2]

Where has the chat / thoughts came about of McInnes not wanting to come - I understand it’s just personal opinion

But for me, I reckon he’d be interested to hear hibs plans

Positives with moving:
Probably 10 x plus the budget he’s on just now.
Aiming to be best of the rest
Aiming for cup wins regularly
European football regularly
Long term foley talked about catching up with the uglies.


Negatives
We don’t give managers time
Complete rebuild
He has killie in a good place
Has he ambitions to go to national job or England again rather than Hibs?

I really am rooting for McInnes being appointed, I think he’s exactly what we need.

Really hope he thinks he can be the man to get Hibs off on the right track and turn us around

Hibs budget won't be anything like 10x higher than Killie's. That'd mean your average Killie player would need to be on about £300 a week.

[Haymaker]

Bielsa.

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[Callum_62]

Bielsa.

Sent from my SM-A426U1 using TapatalkDoesn't know Scottish football.

Also looks ridiculous sitting on chilly bins and such like

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[matty_f]

I'm not too bothered about Scottish experience, but experience of managing at at least the level of the Scottish Premiership would be good - top flight in a competitive country would do.

[Haymaker]

Doesn't know Scottish football.

Also looks ridiculous sitting on chilly bins and such like

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using TapatalkThis is true. Didn't think of that. #bielsaout

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[Nicho87]

Hibs budget won't be anything like 10x higher than Killie's. That'd mean your average Killie player would need to be on about £300 a week.

From transfer fees spent last season we spent over £1 million, I bet killie didn’t even pay out for one transfer fee.

Now with foley investment I stand by my point mcinness will have ten x as much in a transfer budget if he came to hibs

Makes it more ridiculous that we are behind them and st mirren , Dundee and scrambling about hoping we scrape in the top 6

Foley won’t be tolerating this with £6 million beans pumped in.

[Trinity Hibee]

From transfer fees spent last season we spent over £1 million, I bet killie didn’t even pay out for one transfer fee.

Now with foley investment I stand by my point mcinness will have ten x as much in a transfer budget if he came to hibs

Makes it more ridiculous that we are behind them and st mirren , Dundee and scrambling about hoping we scrape in the top 6

Foley won’t be tolerating this with £6 million beans pumped in.

It is ridiculous and is happening far too often. Bottom 6 is failure for any Hibs manager. Mixu was let go for finishing 6th so anything below that should be instant dismissal.

As a club we must set minimum standards and top 6 is that minimum which is easily measurable

[Dashing Bob S]

I’m sure he used to wear a cardigan come jacket at one point. On that basis he’s a big no for me. :greengrin

Strongly seconded

[Unseen work]

I see Nikolas Gunnarson is in the press today talking up Jimmy Thelin who has been strongly linked with Aberdeen.

Says he’s done a really good job and that the team play a counter attacking style of football which is fast and direct whilst pressing the opposition high up the pitch.

He did say Elsborg deserve credit for giving him time after how his time at the club started, probably something to be said for that..

Must admit when I hear the team counter attacking used with managers for us, Aberdeen or hearts I always think they won’t end up that great as teams normally sit it. Or you invite them into you which the home fans won’t like.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I see Nikolas Gunnarson is in the press today talking up Jimmy Thelin who has been strongly linked with Aberdeen.

Says he’s done a really good job and that the team play a counter attacking style of football which is fast and direct whilst pressing the opposition high up the pitch.

He did say Elsborg deserve credit for giving him time after how his time at the club started, probably something to be said for that..

Must admit when I hear the team counter attacking used with managers for us, Aberdeen or hearts I always think they won’t end up that great as teams normally sit it. Or you invite them into you which the home fans won’t like.

Agree.

You can’t really play counter attacking football against teams that commit very few bodies forward.

[May21/05/216]

I would stick with monty
As he's only had one transfer window

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[#2 Double Tap]

I would stick with monty
As he's only had one transfer window

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Someone’s gonna report you to the hate crime police :))

[Real Emerald]

I would stick with monty
As he's only had one transfer window

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Stick with him and we’ll be in the same position next season as we were in at the start of this season. We’d be sacking him in September and bringing in a new manager at the wrong time again. He seems tactically inept and unable to win any big games and his style of football is without doubt driving fans away. He has to go IMHO.

[richard_pitts]

Stick with him and we’ll be in the same position next season as we were in at the start of this season. We’d be sacking him in September and bringing in a new manager at the wrong time again. He seems tactically inept and unable to win any big games and his style of football is without doubt driving fans away. He has to go IMHO.

Problem is if we keep turning managers over at the rate some seem to desire on here, nobody any good will want the job. Plenty on here were desperate to see Jack Ross emptied. We have certainly not got better.

NM is taking a step up. If he was the finished managerial article, he would most likely be at a higher level. Tony Mowbray was a coach looking to take step up. He has made mistakes. The test is what he has learned.

We also need a serious clear out. NM has next season with that in mind. I can also remember we wanted an experienced SPL manager post McLeish and Fenlon. We got Williamson and Butcher respectively. It's not a given that results in success.

[Real Emerald]

Problem is if we keep turning managers over at the rate some seem to desire on here, nobody any good will want the job. Plenty on here were desperate to see Jack Ross emptied. We have certainly not got better.

NM is taking a step up. If he was the finished managerial article, he would most likely be at a higher level. Tony Mowbray was a coach looking to take step up. He has made mistakes. The test is what he has learned.

We also need a serious clear out. NM has next season with that in mind. I can also remember we wanted an experienced SPL manager post McLeish and Fenlon. We got Williamson and Butcher respectively. It's not a given that results in success.

No one on this forum has any desire to keep sacking managers but we want one who can be better than St Mirren, Dundee and Kilmarnock for example. His style of football is not enjoyable to watch and everyone I speak to agrees that’s it’s awful, tactically inept and really difficult to gain any confidence in what he’s doing. I personally don’t want to stick with that, even though I’ve renewed my ST yet again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Problem is if we keep turning managers over at the rate some seem to desire on here, nobody any good will want the job

It’s not really the case though. Football management is a short term thing if you’re not succesful and that’s the case at pretty much every club. Managers know this.

Watford for example have had 20 managers in 10 years under their current owners. This includes managers that before arriving at Watford had previously managed:

Quique Sanchez Flores - Valencia, Benfica, Atletico Madrid
Walter Mazzari - Inter, Napoli, Sampdoria
Marco Silva - Olympiakos, Sporting Lisbon
Claudio Ranieri - Napoli, Fiorentina, Valencia, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Parma, Juventus, Roma, Inter, Monaco, Greece, Leicester
Roy Hodgson - Inter Milan, Liverpool, England
Slaven Bilic - Croatia, Besiktas, West Ham

So they clearly aren’t sitting there struggling to recruit anyone with any decent pedigree despite having nearly 3 times the amount of managers we’ve had in that same period.

[Trinity Hibee]

Problem is if we keep turning managers over at the rate some seem to desire on here, nobody any good will want the job. Plenty on here were desperate to see Jack Ross emptied. We have certainly not got better.

NM is taking a step up. If he was the finished managerial article, he would most likely be at a higher level. Tony Mowbray was a coach looking to take step up. He has made mistakes. The test is what he has learned.

We also need a serious clear out. NM has next season with that in mind. I can also remember we wanted an experienced SPL manager post McLeish and Fenlon. We got Williamson and Butcher respectively. It's not a given that results in success.

Mowbray made mistakes but changed the style of play overnight. Whilst that won’t happen all of the time I don’t think it’s asking much to see a noticeable improvement after 9 months. We aren’t even in the top 6 which suggests we are not improving