Next Manager?

[DIXIHIBS]

Whilst David gray is of course a legend

Hadn’t he played for us and was just a coach up and coming

I think we’d be mortified at this

Tin hat on

But I really hope this doesn’t go pear shaped…..again

If we are going down the untried and untested route

We are crying out for an experienced no nonsense appointment

I hope hibs know that the next appointment is crucial

He isn't just a random coach from another club though is he. He has been at Hibs for 10 years, coach for 5? years and has been caretaker several times. He's seen the the good/bad from the last 4 managers up close and hopefully learned from that. I don't know if he could be a success or not, no one does, but unfair to compare him to any random coach imho.

[MWHIBBIES]

I wouldn't be mortified. Looks like we're putting a system in place, like Leeann did, where the head coach will have a lot of support around them. Someone like Gray is okay for that. And getting him in early gives us a much better chance of success.

[blackpoolhibs]

If it is Gray, then there wont be the usual clean slate bollox rolled out again.

He will have a clear vision on who should go and where we need to strengthen.

That should be a plus, it's filling those positions thats the real test for him, should it be him of course.

[JimBHibees]

If it is Gray, then there wont be the usual clean slate bollox rolled out again.

He will have a clear vision on who should go and where we need to strengthen.

That should be a plus, it's filling those positions thats the real test for him, should it be him of course.

I think Malky coming in makes it more likely DG will get it. Suppose the concern outside of the appointment would be can they work together and is there the chance Malky might try and have a bigger influence than his role as he is quite a strong personality. Can remember watching a Scotland u18s or so team playing Germany on tv and Malky was on bench barking instructions which pretty sure wasn’t his role. Other risk of Gray possibly would be he may be more loyal to players in current squad who should be replaced. Personal opinion would be to give David a shot.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think Malky coming in makes it more likely DG will get it. Suppose the concern outside of the appointment would be can they work together and is there the chance Malky might try and have a bigger influence than his role as he is quite a strong personality. Can remember watching a Scotland u18s or so team playing Germany on tv and Malky was on bench barking instructions which pretty sure wasn’t his role. Other risk of Gray possibly would be he may be more loyal to players in current squad who should be replaced. Personal opinion would be to give David a shot.

I thought about that, but came to the conclusion if Gray wants to be a success he cant do that.

He knows the failings of this squad, we can all see them, surely to god if he wants the club to win and be successful, he needs to be ruthless and hurt a few of these players feeling by replacing them.

[Dibben]

Win today and Gray’s chances go up!

[Box 17]

Win today and Gray’s chances go up!

As I said in an earlier post, the SDG chat is being driven primarily by sentiment and emotion.

McInnes and Robinson have proven track records in this league and would surely improve us.

[B.H.F.C]

As I said in an earlier post, the SDG chat is being driven primarily by sentiment and emotion.

McInnes and Robinson have proven track records in this league and would surely improve us.

I don’t think it is. The appointment of McKay changed things IMO. Gray would be fairly logical even if I’m not totally for it. There’s no way McInnes comes in to work in the structure we’re putting in place IMO.

Anyway, sentiment and emotion can be pretty useful in football, if used in the right way.

[bordergreen]

The “if he hadn’t played for us” stuff though - it’s a bit “auntie’s baws”.

The whole point is that he has played for us and been in our coaching system for years. Advantages he holds, like having a strong opinion right now on who needs kept and who needs binned out of our current squad are near invaluable. If we could be properly planning for next season almost immediately then that would have a huge impact on our prospects for next year.

And having a manager who the fans will naturally want to cut a bit of slack? Again, invaluable. John’s points on longbangers have been valid, even if they feel a bit daft in the aftermath of Monty’s failure. Sooner or later we’re going to need to back someone and not just blame them the second the going gets tough. There may be something beneficial in having someone pretty much every Hibs fan will want to see succeed (only those weirdos who want to be recognised as the first to say “I told you so” won’t).

Pretty much sums up my feelings. He is the kind of character we want. Dream team Sir David, Daz and possibly another more experienced head. I feel totally different about Hibs since they got rid of Monty (who I backed for quite a long time while here) and brought in Mackay. Not quite excited yet, but definitely optimistic. GGTTH

[Dibben]

As I said in an earlier post, the SDG chat is being driven primarily by sentiment and emotion.

McInnes and Robinson have proven track records in this league and would surely improve us.

I’m sure that McInnes or Robinson would improve us. But would they come here?

Bigger club, more money, more resources, more pressure.

But let’s be honest - if either of them go on a bad run - elements of the fanbase will be after them.

They may see us as a poisoned chalice!

[Donegal Hibby]

As I said in an earlier post, the SDG chat is being driven primarily by sentiment and emotion.

McInnes and Robinson have proven track records in this league and would surely improve us.

I don't think it is been driven primarily on sentiment and emotion more he's been at us about 10 years , coached for 4 or 5 of them and has stepped in to take charge four times now which he's generally done well in .

Robinson started at Oldham were he only had a win percentage of 21 .2% btw until Motherwell give him a chance. McInnes was given a chance at St Johnstone . Maybe Gray just needs his chance too.

As for a manager having a track record of knowing the league this doesn't necessarily guarantee success either which we have found out in the past .

[Sioux]

I think Malky coming in makes it more likely DG will get it. Suppose the concern outside of the appointment would be can they work together and is there the chance Malky might try and have a bigger influence than his role as he is quite a strong personality. Can remember watching a Scotland u18s or so team playing Germany on tv and Malky was on bench barking instructions which pretty sure wasn’t his role. Other risk of Gray possibly would be he may be more loyal to players in current squad who should be replaced. Personal opinion would be to give David a shot.

How do you know what his specific role was? If he was on the bench, you'd expect him to support the coach/manager by giving instructions to players. He was after all the SFA performance director, responsible for the development of young players.

[Unseen work]

I just don’t think Gray fits the criteria of what Mackay said he wants.

It’s a massive appointment and Malkys first, is he really going to think Gray is the best option out of everyone? I can’t see it

To me it would be a ‘safe’ option in terms of getting fans onside as they like him and will try make our club feel more Hibs again.

Even a win against Livi today doesn’t really change anything for me.

[MWHIBBIES]

As I said in an earlier post, the SDG chat is being driven primarily by sentiment and emotion.

McInnes and Robinson have proven track records in this league and would surely improve us.

Rather Gray than Robinson personally. Don't think he's anything special.

[Lago]

Win today and Gray’s chances go up!
And if he loses his chances go down?

[Dibben]

And if he loses his chances go down?

Or stay the same… 🤷🏼

[The Spaceman]

If we appointed Gray and it ended up going wrong/we sacked an absolute cast-iron club legend, the toxicity levels between fans and club would reach whole new levels.

McInnes is what we need. SDG then needs to go do an Ian Murray and go down a couple of divisions with a project and learn his way round the top job before doing it for us on a consistent basis IMO.

[Hibbyradge]

If we appointed Gray and it ended up going wrong/we sacked an absolute cast-iron club legend, the toxicity levels between fans and club would reach whole new levels.



I don't think they would. The fans would be calling for his dismissal well before it actually happened.
Sauzee was sacked. He's still worshipped as a legend.

[J-C]

If we appointed Gray and it ended up going wrong/we sacked an absolute cast-iron club legend, the toxicity levels between fans and club would reach whole new levels.

McInnes is what we need. SDG then needs to go do an Ian Murray and go down a couple of divisions with a project and learn his way round the top job before doing it for us on a consistent basis IMO.

Sauzee had zero experience in coaching and TBH I don't actually think he wanted the job, I think he felt he had to take it, funnily enough he's never ventured into another coaching or management role since then.

[Unseen work]

If we appointed Gray and it ended up going wrong/we sacked an absolute cast-iron club legend, the toxicity levels between fans and club would reach whole new levels.

McInnes is what we need. SDG then needs to go do an Ian Murray and go down a couple of divisions with a project and learn his way round the top job before doing it for us on a consistent basis IMO.

I think that and he’s literally just getting it because he’s a ‘Hibs man’. Hes been kept on during 4 management teams keeping their jobs solely for that reason.

People can say it’s because he’s a good coach and I don’t doubt that, but so would McAllister, Potter, Caldwell etc. He kept his job because of who he is.

I’ve no issue with that, but I struggle to see how that then makes him the best man for the job?

He’ll get an experienced number 2 in and McGregor on his coaching staff. So when Gray and his assistant is sacked will McGregor then go through the whole process?

[Donegal Hibby]

I think that and he’s literally just getting it because he’s a ‘Hibs man’. Hes been kept on during 4 management teams keeping their jobs solely for that reason.

People can say it’s because he’s a good coach and I don’t doubt that, but so would McAllister, Potter, Caldwell etc. He kept his job because of who he is.

I’ve no issue with that, but I struggle to see how that then makes him the best man for the job?

He’ll get an experienced number 2 in and McGregor on his coaching staff. So when Gray and his assistant is sacked will McGregor then go through the whole process?

It could go the other way too though . Were Gray and his assistant do an excellent job who move onto a bigger club having left us in a much healthier position with McGregor having learnt from them .

I would say alot of the reason down to him keeping his job is he's a good coach , we have already heard players like Boyle , Stevenson etc coming out and backing him for the managers job .

He knows the club , the league , well respected by the players ,fans and anytime he's been asked to take charge he's mainly done well in difficult circumstances .

I think he's a very good choice for the job personally.

[James70]

Whilst Killie have done well this season I was not at all impressed with their defence yesterday. I know it was Celtic they were playing but the defenders seemed to be in a dream half the time and made Celtic look good. I would not want McInnes on that sort of showing.

[Paul1642]

Whilst Killie have done well this season I was not at all impressed with their defence yesterday. I know it was Celtic they were playing but the defenders seemed to be in a dream half the time and made Celtic look good. I would not want McInnes on that sort of showing.

Conceded 9 against the old firm over two games. If that was us we would be rather unhappy.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Whilst Killie have done well this season I was not at all impressed with their defence yesterday. I know it was Celtic they were playing but the defenders seemed to be in a dream half the time and made Celtic look good. I would not want McInnes on that sort of showing.

Killie played Dundee yesterday.

[James70]

Killie played Dundee yesterday.

Sorry, forgot it was Wednesday they played them! :greengrin Anyway St Mirren seemed to give them a much harder game yesterday at Parkhead.

[GloryGlory]

I just don’t think Gray fits the criteria of what Mackay said he wants.

It’s a massive appointment and Malkys first, is he really going to think Gray is the best option out of everyone? I can’t see it

To me it would be a ‘safe’ option in terms of getting fans onside as they like him and will try make our club feel more Hibs again.

Even a win against Livi today doesn’t really change anything for me.

I wonder what BKG will think about appointing a rookie manager with regard to their investment?

[Bridge hibs]

I wonder what BKG will think about appointing a rookie manager with regard to their investment? Andoni Iraola wasnt greatly experienced or successful before they appointed him manager of Bournemouth

[supermcginn]

Conceded 9 against the old firm over two games. If that was us we would be rather unhappy.

Kilmarnock beat Celtic twice this season,great achievement we could only dream of.

[Alex Trager]

Conceded 9 against the old firm over two games. If that was us we would be rather unhappy.

That pretty much is us tbf mate.

[GloryGlory]

Andoni Iraola wasnt greatly experienced or successful before they appointed him manager of Bournemouth

He's been a manager since 2018:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andoni_Iraola

[K-Zazu]

I’ve decided we need a complete clear out of the coaching staff from top to bottom. No way can Gray get the job.

[Donegal Hibby]

I’ve decided we need a complete clear out of the coaching staff from top to bottom. No way can Gray get the job.

Why ?.

[K-Zazu]

Why ?.

Because we are rotten.

[J-C]

I’ve decided we need a complete clear out of the coaching staff from top to bottom. No way can Gray get the job.

Apart from Gray, all the 1st team coaching staff have left anyway.

[Donegal Hibby]

Because we are rotten.

Do you see the pitch we are playing on against a big physical side , I've seen us many times playing there and generally the footballs not been good .

I do agree that we need a clear out though that's hardly Grays fault , still don't see were your coming from on that one tbh :confused:

[Iain G]

So that's a no for Dave then!

[bingo70]

Do you see the pitch we are playing on against a big physical side , I've seen us many times playing there and generally the footballs not been good .

I do agree that we need a clear out though that's hardly Grays fault , still don't see were your coming from on that one tbh :confused:

Maybe Zazu isn’t making his judgement solely on todays game?

I’m pretty open minded about Gray and can see the positives, easy to see the negatives as well though.

[jeffers]

I’ve decided we need a complete clear out of the coaching staff from top to bottom. No way can Gray get the job.

I didn’t realise it was your decision.

[Unseen work]

If David Gray gets a win today that means he’s won 3/3 games.

Which would equate for 25% of our league wins this season.

Mental.

[Since452]

If David Gray gets a win today that means he’s won 3/3 games.

Which would equate for 25% of our league wins this season.

Mental.

Some stat that

[mcohibs]

So the fans decide who should be manager then?

Aye ok.

Eh? Not even remotely close to what I said.

[H18 SFR]

We look even more disorganised today in some aspects of our game.

We need an experienced Head Coach in to totally overhaul the squad from top to bottom.

I’m not keen on 10+ players coming in during the summer as it rarely clicks quickly but sadly this needs to happen over the summer.

[Northernhibee]

We look even more disorganised today in some aspects of our game.

We need an experienced Head Coach in to totally overhaul the squad from top to bottom.

I’m not keen on 10+ players coming in during the summer as it rarely clicks quickly but sadly this needs to happen over the summer.

I’ve said it all season, this squad is an imbalanced mess. Too many inconsistent players, too many players signed with no idea how they’ll fit into a system, so much money spent.

[J-C]

Hard to tell if Gray isn't all that or it's a case this bunch of players are just pants.

[marinello59]

Hard to tell if Gray isn't all that or it's a case this bunch of players are just pants.

It’s the players.

[Saint Hibee]

I love SDG with a passion, but I’d be very nervous if he gets the job. I just don’t think he’s got enough experience of being a manager rather than just a coach.

[Itsnoteasy]

Sorry, forgot it was Wednesday they played them! :greengrin Anyway St Mirren seemed to give them a much harder game yesterday at Parkhead.

Aye cause Celtic players were still in party mode after cli chi g the league in midweek.

[Donegal Hibby]

Maybe Zazu isn’t making his judgement solely on todays game?

I’m pretty open minded about Gray and can see the positives, easy to see the negatives as well though.

I think the positives out number the negatives though and not sure what the negatives are , apart from some saying he's inexperienced which all managers are starting out .

[Since452]

McInnes or Robinson. Both have a track record of building and improving teams in our league. Sorry SDG but too risky for your first gig. For Hibs and you.

[mixumatosis]

I love SDG with a passion, but I’d be very nervous if he gets the job. I just don’t think he’s got enough experience of being a manager rather than just a coach.

I'd be happy to see him come in permanently off the back of a successful manager leaving, but not with the state of things just now. It wouldn't be 5mins before people would be calling for his head.

[Unseen work]

Peter Leven?

[Aldo]

Peter Leven?

If you’re offering it to him you’d be as well giving it to SDG.

[JohnM1875]

I'd be happy to see him come in permanently off the back of a successful manager leaving, but not with the state of things just now. It wouldn't be 5mins before people would be calling for his head.

Disagree completely. It's SDG, if anyone on this planet will get time from the Hibs fans it's him.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd be happy to see him come in permanently off the back of a successful manager leaving, but not with the state of things just now. It wouldn't be 5mins before people would be calling for his head.

Whoever comes in surely as fans we realise that we need to give someone time to get us out of this situation the club finds itself in now rather than calling for somebody's head after 5 minutes. No?

[SeanWilson]

Disagree completely. It's SDG, if anyone on this planet will get time from the Hibs fans it's him.

We have some of the most fickle and reactionary fans on the planet.

The cringe after Wednesday night, clambering for gray will inevitably become yesterdays chip paper after today.

We need to change, top to bottom.

[MWHIBBIES]

Today was never to say to judge gray FFS. Total nothing game with players not interested.

[Iain G]

Today was never to say to judge gray FFS. Total nothing game with players not interested.

He was judged on the last dead rubber, why not today as well? You can't be selective on which games he does ok in!

He is not the answer and is just another project.

We need better.

[bingo70]

I think the positives out number the negatives though and not sure what the negatives are , apart from some saying he's inexperienced which all managers are starting out .

You can’t see what the negatives are?

I get you might not agree with them but the negatives aren’t hard to work out.

[bingo70]

Whoever comes in surely as fans we realise that we need to give someone time to get us out of this situation the club finds itself in now rather than calling for somebody's head after 5 minutes. No?

Only if there’s some signs of progress.

[GreenCastle]

Dead rubber or not today Gray really should be winning that.

Livingston are terrible.

He had a chance to win 2 in a row.

We only won 2 in a row ONCE all season in the league. That’s a terrible stat.

Whoever the next manager is needs a completely fresh team or will fall into the same traps and issues.

[Trinity Hibee]

David Gray on radio post match backing his abilities to do the job

[Donegal Hibby]

You can’t see what the negatives are?

I get you might not agree with them but the negatives aren’t hard to work out.

Depends on what they are though , again I still think the positives out number the negatives when it comes to discussing SDG becoming our manager.

[Aldo]

He was judged on the last dead rubber, why not today as well? You can't be selective on which games he does ok in!

He is not the answer and is just another project.

We need better.

I think this is how I see it.

If and that’s if he’s given the gig I’ll support him but I want a fresh start.

[Trinity Hibee]

I believe I am ready. I'd always back my ability. That's not what matters at the moment, what matters is what the club decide. I've been asked to do a job, which is now done. Over the next few days, we'll find out what's happening.
"I feel I've gained a lot of experience, always in difficult situations. I've also had the benefit of four different coaching styles. I was learning the whole time, piecing it all together and implementing what a successful Hibs team could look like.
"What I've done previously has no bearing move forward, I would never want that to be the case."

[bingo70]

Dead rubber or not today Gray really should be winning that.

Livingston are terrible.

Whenever the next manager is needs a completely fresh team or will fall into the same traps and issues.

Yeah, I’m a bit conflicted on it.

I didn’t think he should have got the job on the back of the Motherwell game and by the same token I think it would be harsh to take it off him based on todays draw.

I’m not sure if this is harsh or not but these games have been his opportunity to give the club something to think about. These games were an opportunity to really force the club to give him serious consideration by showing he could motivate them and really influence games from the touch line (something Mackay mentioned in his interview). I think he’s shown he’s a safe pair of hands, I suspect he needed a big win today to try move him from being a possibility to a serious candidate though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Only if there’s some signs of progress.

Which we have most of the time when Grays taken over after a managers been sacked.

[Trinity Hibee]

Pundits on sportsound saying mcinnes surely the obvious candidate. Willie miller saying he doesn’t think a sporting director would put him off

[bingo70]

Pundits on sportsound saying mcinnes surely the obvious candidate. Willie miller saying he doesn’t think a sporting director would put him off

I don’t see why a sporting director would, the whole point of them is to help the manager.

[GreenCastle]

Yeah, I’m a bit conflicted on it.

I didn’t think he should have got the job on the back of the Motherwell game and by the same token I think it would be harsh to take it off him based on todays draw.

I’m not sure if this is harsh or not but these games have been his opportunity to give the club something to think about. These games were an opportunity to really force the club to give him serious consideration by showing he could motivate them and really influence games from the touch line (something Mackay mentioned in his interview). I think he’s shown he’s a safe pair of hands, I suspect he needed a big win today to try move him from being a possibility to a serious candidate though.

Agreed.

Improving crap players is a sign of a good coach. He hasn’t had much time since the last game but was there a reason he didn’t start Stevenson ?

The other disappointing issue was 1-0 up again and chucking a lead = dropping points.

Mentally the players just aren’t at the level and we need better. Worst situation would be Gray gets job and keeps some of this group and then struggles then gets sacked.

A completely new manager would have no loyalty to any players but may take longer to get to know them more personally.

The only way I can see Gray doing well is if he is completely ruthless with the current squad.

[Vini1875]

We need way better than SDG at the moment. We need a guy like Steve Clarke who can get a tune out of almost any bunch of less than quality players. We don't have squad of super stars who are under perfoming, we have a squad of poor players who don't want to try very much, a sprinkling of good players who don't want to try very much and a sprinkling of players who will try as much as they can withoiut being very good.

As much as I would love SDG to be able to turn it all around in a matter of weeks, I doubt whether he can. Our next head coach is going to have to work out very quickly who can be motivated and who have to go very quickly. He will also have to be able bring a lot of players and gel them into a team very quickly. This squad does feel like a team, just a collection of individuals earning a living playing football.

Also the new head coach is going to have to be able to rise above all the other pish running through the club at the moment, from the top down.

[Springbank]

You'd say Derek McInnes is as close as you get to guaranteeing top 4 & Europe next season with our budget

You can't say that about SDG

[H18 SFR]

I totally understand the appeal of Gray on the back of a dreadful season but it absolutely folks’ hearts ruling their heads here.

We need an established man for the post, not someone looking to cut their teeth in their first job.

[Brightside]

He was judged on the last dead rubber, why not today as well? You can't be selective on which games he does ok in!

He is not the answer and is just another project.

We need better.

Only judge him on the games he wins maybe. :greengrin. He's not for me. We need a full clear out.

[CapitalGreen]

Monty didn’t drop a point to this mob. They have been one of the worst teams in the 12 team era and we dropped 5/12 points against them this season. If we have any aspirations to compete with Hearts we need to taking 9-12 points from these types of game.

[Saint Hibee]

I totally understand the appeal of Gray on the back of a dreadful season but it absolutely folks’ hearts ruling their heads here.

We need an established man for the post, not someone looking to cut their teeth in their first job.

This 100%.

[mixumatosis]

Disagree completely. It's SDG, if anyone on this planet will get time from the Hibs fans it's him.

And when you realise that you had to phrase that as a question, you realise the point I'm making.

For some people, if he's anything short of spectacular, he'll be acceptable collateral damage if it means they can continue to criticise the club.

[we are hibs]

Personally hope it's not David Gray. Of course if it's him then I'll back him 100% and I don't think I'll have ever wanted a Hibs manager to succeed as much as him but I don't feel he's the right man for such a big rebuild right now.

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[Donegal Hibby]

I totally understand the appeal of Gray on the back of a dreadful season but it absolutely folks’ hearts ruling their heads here.

We need an established man for the post, not someone looking to cut their teeth in their first job.

I don't think it is folks hearts ruling their heads here , there's enough evidence to suggest he should be a strong candidate for the job . You only have to look at how he's done this season when taking over in difficult circumstances.

After we lost our first 3 games while conceding 8 goals he was put incharge of a tricky away fixture to Aberdeen which ended up in us winning 2-0 .

After losing another 6 goals to Ross county and Aberdeen he's taken charge and got 4 out of 6 points .

Not a great game today , in fact it was awful imo though if your hinting at the established man I'm thinking you are I think we need to prepare to be watching more games like this week in , week out next season 😞

[Salisbury Hibby]

Agreed.

Improving crap players is a sign of a good coach. He hasn’t had much time since the last game but was there a reason he didn’t start Stevenson ?

SDG said pre-match on Sportsound that Lewis had a Dead Leg and it would be a lot to ask him to play two games in a matter of days, after not playing regularly.

[SteveHFC]

Klopp?

[Donegal Hibby]

Klopp?

No experience of Scottish football.

[raeburnhibs]

I don't think it is folks hearts ruling their heads here , there's enough evidence to suggest he should be a strong candidate for the job . You only have to look at how he's done this season when taking over in difficult circumstances.

After we lost our first 3 games while conceding 8 goals he was put incharge of a tricky away fixture to Aberdeen which ended up in us winning 2-0 .

After losing another 6 goals to Ross county and Aberdeen he's taken charge and got 4 out of 6 points .

Not a great game today , in fact it was awful imo though if your hinting at the established man I'm thinking you are I think we need to prepare to be watching more games like this week in , week out next season 😞

There isn enough evidence; two or three games, 12 in total. I'll take McInnes thanks.

[Johnny Clash]

Assuming Hibs do pull the trigger who do you want? For me McInnes is the obvious choice, very good record at Aberdeen, now doing very well with Killie, guy knows how to win games and big games against the uglies something we are incapable of doing.
It’s taken me a long time to warm to the idea of Mcinness but starting to feel ok with that idea . David Gray is a Hibs legend but has no experience of managing. Hibs stalwart Ian Murray has experience at smaller clubs with much lower resources but no idea if he’s ready for the Hibs challenge.

[JohnM1875]

It’s taken me a long time to warm to the idea of Mcinness but starting to feel ok with that idea . David Gray is a Hibs legend but has no experience of managing. Hibs stalwart Ian Murray has experience at smaller clubs with much lower resources but no idea if he’s ready for the Hibs challenge.

Same in relation to McInnes. Still think he'd be the best fit right now. But, if not him, I'd be happy with Gray or Deila.

Interesting hearing Pep, probably the best manager ever, say there you have to adapt with the players you have. Monty's biggest issue was not doing that.

[blackpoolhibs]

Depends on what they are though , again I still think the positives out number the negatives when it comes to discussing SDG becoming our manager.

Is the football he would bring to Hibs entertaining enough for you?

[Unseen work]

McInnes
Deila
Robinson
Murray

For me

[04Sauzee]

McInnes
Deila
Robinson
Murray

For me
Some management team TBF 🤪

[hibeerealist]

Depends on what they are though , again I still think the positives out number the negatives when it comes to discussing SDG becoming our manager.

With respect DH you were one of the main protagonists pushing for Monty to get more time and a summer TW! Pushing for SDG to get the gig at this stage of his career with the mess of this squad, is almost as naive.

[raeburnhibs]

Alex Neil

[Is It On....]

David Gray said today that "I've also had the benefit of four different coaching styles".

Let's hope we can create some sort of continuity in the next few years

[Springbank]

The ideal scenario for SDG is to step in after we have a successful manager

Like after McLeish or Mowbray were head hunted away.

The interim boss is then working with a successful ship, and usually it's mid season, so can be given 4-8 weeks to really test themselves in the job.

That's my 2p

This summer is the most important game-changing investment & pivot we've seen at ER in a long long time

That's where you want experience, track record, and not a time for a rookie

[Donegal Hibby]

Is the football he would bring to Hibs entertaining enough for you?

Aberdeen game was decent and I thought we played well against Motherwell too , today wasn't good putting it mildly though it's hard to say so early on would it be good or not though I've watched Aberdeen for years and now see how killie play and know exactly what isn't entertaining ! .

[Donegal Hibby]

With respect DH you were one of the main protagonists pushing for Monty to get more time and a summer TW! Pushing for SDG to get the gig at this stage of his career with the mess of this squad, is almost as naive.

With respect the last time you said I posted something wasn't correct and you just made stuff up so I'll bow out of answering . Thanks .

[bingo70]

McInnes
Deila
Robinson
Murray

For me

For me:-

1. McInnes (my head ruling my heart here, he’s the sensible option this time, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that even if I’ve resisted that view point before)
2.Delia- would be a really exciting, but riskier appointment.
3. Alex Neil- see McInnes but not as safe a bet.
4. Michael O’Neill- defensively he’d sort us out, bit worried how long before the novelty of that would wear off though
5. Some left field mental ******* I’ve never heard of yet.

[MWHIBBIES]

With respect DH you were one of the main protagonists pushing for Monty to get more time and a summer TW! Pushing for SDG to get the gig at this stage of his career with the mess of this squad, is almost as naive.

And what exactly is wrong with DH

A - supporting our previous manager and wanting him to succeed?
B - Having the opinion that Gray should be our new manager?

He isn't naive. He seems things differently from you.

[Donegal Hibby]

There isn enough evidence; two or three games, 12 in total. I'll take McInnes thanks.

Maybe though is record in them 12 games isn't bad and everyone as to get a chance at sometime or another , anyhow we don't know who'll get it yet though as to Mcinnes your welcome to him I'd rather we avoided him tbh :aok: .

[He's here!]

The ideal scenario for SDG is to step in after we have a successful manager

Like after McLeish or Mowbray were head hunted away.

The interim boss is then working with a successful ship, and usually it's mid season, so can be given 4-8 weeks to really test themselves in the job.

That's my 2p

This summer is the most important game-changing investment & pivot we've seen at ER in a long long time

That's where you want experience, track record, and not a time for a rookie

We were slipping a little under McLeish when he left and Sauzee was a disaster. Collins looked to be the business post Mowbray but things unravelled when he started building his own side.

[04Sauzee]

For me:-

1. McInnes (my head ruling my heart here, he’s the sensible option this time, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that even if I’ve resisted that view point before)
2.Delia- would be a really exciting, but riskier appointment.
3. Alex Neil- see McInnes but not as safe a bet.
4. Michael O’Neill- defensively he’d sort us out, bit worried how long before the novelty of that would wear off though
5. Some left field mental ******* I’ve never heard of yet.

I'd be disappointed if it Alex Neil, just can't take to the guy.

[Unseen work]

For me:-

1. McInnes (my head ruling my heart here, he’s the sensible option this time, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that even if I’ve resisted that view point before)
2.Delia- would be a really exciting, but riskier appointment.
3. Alex Neil- see McInnes but not as safe a bet.
4. Michael O’Neill- defensively he’d sort us out, bit worried how long before the novelty of that would wear off though
5. Some left field mental ******* I’ve never heard of yet.

Yeah forgot about Alex Neil, think he’d be a great pick.

O’Neill is one I’d be a bit nervous about

[raeburnhibs]

Yeah forgot about Alex Neil, think he’d be a great pick.

O’Neill is one I’d be a bit nervous about

Speaking to a friend today about the vacancy. He is a Sunderland fan and he thought Alex Neil was great for them; able to tailor tactics and formations depending on the opposition.

[bingo70]

I'd be disappointed if it Alex Neil, just can't take to the guy.

I know what you mean, seems like a bit of a dick, not sure why I think that though, can’t think of anything he’s said or done that would make me think that.

Got a good record nearly everywhere he’s been though.

[erin go bragh]

The ideal scenario for SDG is to step in after we have a successful manager

Like after McLeish or Mowbray were head hunted away.

The interim boss is then working with a successful ship, and usually it's mid season, so can be given 4-8 weeks to really test themselves in the job.

That's my 2p

This summer is the most important game-changing investment & pivot we've seen at ER in a long long time

That's where you want experience, track record, and not a time for a rookie

Spot on. We need an experienced man first.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know what you mean, seems like a bit of a dick, not sure why I think that though, can’t think of anything he’s said or done that would make me think that.

Got a good record nearly everywhere he’s been though.

I’m the same and I also have absolutely no idea why.

[CapitalGreen]

I know what you mean, seems like a bit of a dick, not sure why I think that though, can’t think of anything he’s said or done that would make me think that.

Got a good record nearly everywhere he’s been though.

Leaving Sunderland within 7 months of taking the job to take a role at a club in the same division was a bit of a dick move.

[erin go bragh]

We were slipping a little under McLeish when he left and Sauzee was a disaster. Collins looked to be the business post Mowbray but things unravelled when he started building his own side.

Sauzee should never have been given the job as when he got appointed, he stopped playing, which resulted in us losing our best player. Terrible decision by the board and i cant help that Gray would be a disaster as we need someone who will rip out all the dead wood in this squad and Gray is far too friendly with most if not all of this squad and would not be ruthless enough.

[ekhibee]

I was watching Sportscene earlier and I found myself agreeing with James McFadden, who said an experienced manager might not want to have Malky McKay looking over his shoulder all the time, calling the shots. It might be a job for an up and coming manager. Personally I don't think McInnes would touch us with a bargepole or Alec Neil and very probably Michael O'Neil as well. During his interview the other night Robinson seemed to send out some kind of message that could be interpreted a number of ways, not necessarily positive or negative. So on that basis I would say Gray has a good chance of getting the gig, but it wouldn't be for me, at least not for a while yet. He's been part of a coaching team, 3 or 4 of them, who for one reason or another haven't delivered. Fair enough, in his case you can only work with the players you have, and presumably McKay will have a big say in identifying and bringing in new players, in the early stages anyway. So Gray definitely is in with a shout IMO. But personally, if I had a choice, right now it would be Robinson.

[bingo70]

Leaving Sunderland within 7 months of taking the job to take a role at a club in the same division was a bit of a dick move.

Yeah, that was really odd.

Maybe because it’s closer but I’d have put Sunderland down as a bigger club with more potential than Stoke. Feels a bit like there must have been more going on behind the scenes for him to think that was a good idea. Surely can’t just have been for a few extra quid?!

[Iain G]

I know what you mean, seems like a bit of a dick, not sure why I think that though, can’t think of anything he’s said or done that would make me think that.

Got a good record nearly everywhere he’s been though.

He hasn't though, been fired a couple of times. Not the answer.

[04Sauzee]

I was watching Sportscene earlier and I found myself agreeing with James McFadden, who said an experienced manager might not want to have Malky McKay looking over his shoulder all the time, calling the shots. It might be a job for an up and coming manager. Personally I don't think McInnes would touch us with a bargepole or Alec Neil and very probably Michael O'Neil as well. During his interview the other night Robinson seemed to send out some kind of message that could be interpreted a number of ways, not necessarily positive or negative. So on that basis I would say Gray has a good chance of getting the gig, but it wouldn't be for me, at least not for a while yet. He's been part of a coaching team, 3 or 4 of them, who for one reason or another haven't delivered. Fair enough, in his case you can only work with the players you have, and presumably McKay will have a big say in identifying and bringing in new players, in the early stages anyway. So Gray definitely is in with a shout IMO. But personally, if I had a choice, right now it would be Robinson.

I never heard the Robinson interview, what kind of things did he say? Sounded interested in the Hibs job?

[CapitalGreen]

He hasn't though, been fired a couple of times. Not the answer.

Are there many experienced managers who haven’t been sacked a couple of times? DM has been sacked by Bristol City and Aberdeen.

Alex Neil has got 3 different clubs promoted from 3 different leagues which suggests his ability as a manager/coach is repeatable. He wouldn’t be my first choice but it’s nonsense to suggest he doesn’t have a good record.

[Iain G]

Are there many experienced managers who haven’t been sacked a couple of times? DM has been sacked by Bristol City and Aberdeen.

Alex Neil has got 3 different clubs promoted from 3 different leagues which suggests his ability as a manager/coach is repeatable. He wouldn’t be my first choice but it’s nonsense to suggest he doesn’t have a good record.

Sacked by 3 of his last 4 clubs, hardly a manager on an upward trajectory though.

[LaMotta]

Sacked by 3 of his last 4 clubs, hardly a manager on an upward trajectory though.

Not true, he left Preston by mutual consent and left Sunderland of his own accord after guiding them to promotion.

Promotion with Hamilton, Norwich and Sunderland - he has an excellent CV.

[CapitalGreen]

Sacked by 3 of his last 4 clubs, hardly a manager on an upward trajectory though.

Thomas Tuchel is about to be 4 from 4 for sackings however that doesn’t accurately reflect what he achieved with those clubs.

[Unseen work]

How about the Barcelona under 11’s Manager?

https://x.com/billymeredithmu/status/1791846619802984640?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

[badabing67]

How about the Barcelona under 11’s Manager?

https://x.com/billymeredithmu/status/1791846619802984640?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw


They can playout from the back..... Nobody here can. He'd need to bring his players with him.

[Iain G]

Not true, he left Preston by mutual consent and left Sunderland of his own accord after guiding them to promotion.

Promotion with Hamilton, Norwich and Sunderland - he has an excellent CV.

So sacked by 2 of his last 4 employers and a nice political "mutual consent"...or code for agreeing its not working and let's not call it a sacking 😁

[Iain G]

Thomas Tuchel is about to be 4 from 4 for sackings however that doesn’t accurately reflect what he achieved with those clubs.

Do you think he could do a job for us though?

[LaMotta]

So sacked by 2 of his last 4 employers and a nice political "mutual consent"...or code for agreeing its not working and let's not call it a sacking 😁

I suppose that's a creative way of you admitting your post was innaccurate.

[He's here!]

Not true, he left Preston by mutual consent and left Sunderland of his own accord after guiding them to promotion.

Promotion with Hamilton, Norwich and Sunderland - he has an excellent CV.

Neil would be a great choice. McInnes too but I'm not convinced either would want the role.

I think it's worth giving David Gray the job. With Mackay there to lean on I think it could be effective and Hearts have shown that a rookie can thrive if he's cut from the right cloth.

[GreenCastle]

Some interesting comments here from Norwich fans on Alex Neil in March.

https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/155755-alex-neil/

[Iain G]

I suppose that's a creative way of you admitting your post was innaccurate.

My post was very accurate! 😁

His career has stagnated at best after a lot of early promise. Not sure we need both our director of football and our head coach on a redemption arc.

[Heisenberg]

Surprised by the lack of stuff in the press so far. Usually you’d have some ex rangers/celtc player chucking their name in for the job at the very least but there’s not been much at all.

[badabing67]

(1) Glasgow Times Football on X: "Neil Lennon has been spotted arriving at an airport in Romania ahead of being named Rapid Bucharest. https://t.co/UQo9gGGinn (https://twitter.com/GT_Football_/status/1792474487042240547?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) 👇 Full story https://t.co/hIVmU2SXY8" / X (twitter.com)

[Since452]

In a perverse, way i find it quite exiting when we're on the hunt for a new manager. I know it's not a good situation for stability etc, but there's always that feeling that, this time, it'll be a good one. The law of averages has to be in our favour, surely!?

[bingo70]

In a perverse, way i find it quite exiting when we're on the hunt for a new manager. I know it's not a good situation for stability etc, but there's always that feeling that, this time, it'll be a good one. The law of averages has to be in our favour, surely!?

You’re not alone, I can assure you.

I love this time of year, it’s better than Christmas.

I think the fact whoever comes in will be doing so at the start of a transfer window really adds to the excitement as well.

[greenginger]

In a perverse, way i find it quite exiting when we're on the hunt for a new manager. I know it's not a good situation for stability etc, but there's always that feeling that, this time, it'll be a good one. The law of averages has to be in our favour, surely!?


Trouble there are a hell of a lot more bad ones than good ones out there.

I’m just glad it’s no my responsibility to pick one , sleepless nights. :worried:

[Since452]

You’re not alone, I can assure you.

I love this time of year, it’s better than Christmas.

I think the fact whoever comes in will be doing so at the start of a transfer window really adds to the excitement as well.

Yeah definitely. Much better than half way through the season!

[eastmainsmsh]

(1) Glasgow Times Football on X: "Neil Lennon has been spotted arriving at an airport in Romania ahead of being named Rapid Bucharest. https://t.co/UQo9gGGinn (https://twitter.com/GT_Football_/status/1792474487042240547?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) 👇 Full story https://t.co/hIVmU2SXY8" / X (twitter.com)

Match or better the £750 k a year if we have any ambition Lennon is the man

[blackpoolhibs]

Aberdeen game was decent and I thought we played well against Motherwell too , today wasn't good putting it mildly though it's hard to say so early on would it be good or not though I've watched Aberdeen for years and now see how killie play and know exactly what isn't entertaining ! .

So you have watched every Aberdeen game he was manager in, and every Kilmarnock game too, i bow to your superior views.

I only scan other games, and couldnt give you an opinion on any team other than Hibs. We are pish, play pish football and have teams above us with half our income.

Who are these teams that are brilliant on the eye that consistantly finish on the top 4 and qualify for Europe?

[Brightside]

Match or better the £750 k a year if we have any ambition Lennon is the man

Lennon is not, and never will be The Man. If a club are willing to give him 750k then good luck to them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

So you have watched every Aberdeen game he was manager in, and every Kilmarnock game too, i bow to your superior views.

I only scan other games, and couldnt give you an opinion on any team other than Hibs. We are pish, play pish football and have teams above us with half our income.

Who are these teams that are brilliant on the eye that consistantly finish on the top 4 and qualify for Europe?

Exactly this.

For bloody years we have consistently failed to make the top 4 ... Outside of the really good Aberdeen and Dundee United teams of the 80s who were these teams playing fantastic fitba who were just too good for us and giving this impression that to do well in this league you have to be a brilliant team playing silky fitba?

Being able to compete physically. Winning more than 50% of second balls. Being organised. That's what gets you success in this league. If that comes with some decent fitba when you have these things then that's a bonus.

[K-Zazu]

I think Mciness and Aberdeen just got bored of each other in the end. He’s a no brainer to become the next Hibs boss.

[Donegal Hibby]

So you have watched every Aberdeen game he was manager in, and every Kilmarnock game too, i bow to your superior views.

I only scan other games, and couldnt give you an opinion on any team other than Hibs. We are pish, play pish football and have teams above us with half our income.

Who are these teams that are brilliant on the eye that consistantly finish on the top 4 and qualify for Europe?

Not every game though i have watched a fair few of Aberdeen's when Mcinnes was manager over his 8 years or so there . I haven't watched all Killies games again though I have seen a fair few of them over the 2 1/2 seasons he's been there too .

I get why folk want him i just wouldn't want him for much the same reason as alot of Aberdeen fans didn't want him back either. Jack Ross got criticized for his football at us and did the attendance not drop slightly at the end ? ( might be wrong ) and he got us 3rd .

I think the same would happen to Mcinnes if he was Hibs manager too . He wouldn't be my preferred choice for it though if he got it hopefully we would all back him .

I don't think it will be him anyhow . Possibly Gray or we go down the route that Bournemouth have done and appoint a foreign coach with a good record maybe we aren't familiar with .

[easty]

Not every game though i have watched a fair few of Aberdeen's when Mcinnes was manager over his 8 years or so there . I haven't watched all Killies games again though I have seen a fair few of them over the 2 1/2 seasons he's been there too .

I get why folk want him i just wouldn't want him for much the same reason as alot of Aberdeen fans didn't want him back either. Jack Ross got criticized for his football at us and did the attendance not drop slightly at the end ? ( might be wrong ) and he got us 3rd .

I think the same would happen to Mcinnes if he was Hibs manager too . He wouldn't be my preferred choice for it though if he got it hopefully we would all back him .

I don't think it will be him anyhow . Possibly Gray or we go down the route that Bournemouth have done and appoint a foreign coach with a good record maybe we aren't familiar with .

I don't think Killie have been awful against us, and the only other times I really see them are when they play Rangers or Celtc, and it's not really fair to judge them on those games, in my book.

Folk did criticise Jack Ross' football, but mostly when results weren't going our way. He was sacked after going on a 10 game run where we won 2, drew 1 and lost 7. Granted, one of the games we won was the semi v Rangers, but the other one we were losing until St Johnstone went down to 10 men.

I want a manager that wins games more often than he loses. That shouldn't be that difficult thing a to get in a league where there are at least 7 of the clubs have far smaller budgets than us. Free flowing attractive football would be great, but we pay pennies on the grand scheme of things in the football world. We cannae afford the best players out there. Fans need to accept that, and I hope the new manager does. Just win games.

[superfurryhibby]

The fact that we haven't yet appointed SDG tells me that we are looking elsewhere.

[bingo70]

The fact that we haven't yet appointed SDG tells me that we are looking elsewhere.

We’re maybe still doing interviews and he’s just one being considered?

Saying that, I will be very surprised if we are going down the usual route of narrowing down a short list, doing interviews etc.

Mackay will have come in knowing who he wants imo.

[Iain G]

I think Mciness and Aberdeen just got bored of each other in the end. He’s a no brainer to become the next Hibs boss.

In your head, not in mine!

[bingo70]

In your head, not in mine!

In the past I would have been on your side of the argument. Where we are at now though and the be last few seasons we’ve had, I think he is the sensible option now, even if it’s just to lay the foundations for future managers to build on.

I was extremely sceptical as to whether he would come or not, the more I think about it the more I think he could be persuaded. If he would come, I ended ti try imo.

[bingo70]

Scot Gemmills odds tumbling.

[JimBHibees]

We’re maybe still doing interviews and he’s just one being considered?

Saying that, I will be very surprised if we are going down the usual route of narrowing down a short list, doing interviews etc.

Mackay will have come in knowing who he wants imo.

Wonder if McInnes said he would come if he could choose the DOF/Technical director. Hence Malky. This might make it easier for him.

[BH Hibs]

Scot Gemmills odds tumbling.

Please no.

[GloryGlory]

We’re maybe still doing interviews and he’s just one being considered?

Saying that, I will be very surprised if we are going down the usual route of narrowing down a short list, doing interviews etc.

Mackay will have come in knowing who he wants imo.

When Mackay was announced it was stated he will lead on the new head coach appointment, and also that he was due to start his new job on 1 June. So can't see that any interviews have been held yet, although Mackay could be working informally already and no doubt Hibs have already been contacted by agents/representatives of coaches.

[GloryGlory]

Please no.

Ditto! :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

I don't think Killie have been awful against us, and the only other times I really see them are when they play Rangers or Celtc, and it's not really fair to judge them on those games, in my book.

Folk did criticise Jack Ross' football, but mostly when results weren't going our way. He was sacked after going on a 10 game run where we won 2, drew 1 and lost 7. Granted, one of the games we won was the semi v Rangers, but the other one we were losing until St Johnstone went down to 10 men.

I want a manager that wins games more often than he loses. That shouldn't be that difficult thing a to get in a league where there are at least 7 of the clubs have far smaller budgets than us. Free flowing attractive football would be great, but we pay pennies on the grand scheme of things in the football world. We cannae afford the best players out there. Fans need to accept that, and I hope the new manager does. Just win games.

In order to be fair I'm sure there's times Killie have played well though there's others that they don't which is the point I'm trying to make in your right that Ross got criticized when it went wrong which I think would also happen with Mcinnes if he started badly or hit a bad run later .

Maybe I'm wrong here though for me there's a difference in playing well and being unlucky to lose a game as to just playing ***** and losing one .

I've absolutely nothing against Mcinnes personally and if he got the Hibs job I'd back him though I do wonder due to the way his teams play what would be the reaction on here when he hit a bad run . Which all managers do at some point or another.

I think it would be along the lines of what Ross got in the football he'd have us playing would be the stick to beat him with when he did . Thats my opinion on it anyhow.

Totally understand fans want to see Hibs win games and so do i though maybe I'm in the minority but i also like to see us play good football as well.

I think both go together and we are a big club that should be aiming for both too mate .

[Heisenberg]

Scot Gemmills odds tumbling.

Be very disappointed if it’s him. SDG the only gamble I’d be willing to get on board with and that’s mostly because of who he is and that he’ll fully know the squad inside out.

[SteveHFC]

Scot Gemmills odds tumbling.

Can we get Monty back?

[Gordy M]

Someone putting £20 on a certain manager will have odds tumbling. Its one of the few bets that folk will knowthe outcome before the bookies....hence the odds move very quickly.

[Unseen work]

Don’t think the betting odds mean a great deal other than someone somewhere has chucked money on Gemmil.

Not ‘ITK’ people feeding them information

[bingo70]

Please no.

Yeah, it wouldn’t be a Hibs managerial vacancy if he wasn’t linked though!

The only saving grace about him is I’m sure his name is actually Scotland Gemmill.

Probably not enough to warrant giving him the job but I do like that.

[04Sauzee]

Don’t think the betting odds mean a great deal other than someone somewhere has chucked money on Gemmil.

Not ‘ITK’ people feeding them information

Probably got a good relationship with MM so 2+2 and all that

[04Sauzee]

Scot Gemmills odds tumbling.

Tumbled from what to what

[Since452]

There won't be a lot of people betting on who gets the Hibs job. If i stuck 50 quid on Gemmill he'd probably become favorite (wasn't me btw).

[greenlex]

Scott Gemmil is an excellent coach. We’ve missed the biat on Lennon who is off to Romania. Shame. 😂😂

[bingo70]

Tumbled from what to what

From not being included in the betting to down to 7/1.

[badabing67]

Can we get Monty back?

NO

[badabing67]

Probably got a good relationship with MM so 2+2 and all that


Yeah with SFA at the same time

[Paul1642]

From not being included in the betting to down to 7/1.

He was also 7/1 five days ago having appeared on the list following Malky MacKay being appointed.

It’s Gray and Murray who’s odds have shortened the most since then whilst McInnes has went from 2/1 to 8/1.

[bingo70]

He was also 7/1 five days ago having appeared on the list following Malky MacKay being appointed.

It’s Gray and Murray who’s odds have shortened the most since then whilst McInnes has went from 2/1 to 8/1.

Ah, I stand corrected then, apologies to all concerned, I never noticed his name before.

While I’m throwing out names of people that probably won’t get the job, wonder if Chris Davies could be someone of interest?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Davies_(football_coach)

As well as being someone that meets the criteria Mackay spoke about, he has experience of Scottish football when he was Brendan Rodgers assistant. Looking at his Wikipedia page I saw the following quote which I thought also ticks off something Mackay said he was looking for:-

"Controlling the game with the ball will always be central to my philosophy but I want a degree of tactical flexibility to adapt to different opponents and different situations. I’m a pragmatic person, and I feel that transfers into my coaching."
—Davies on his coaching philosophy.[6]

[04Sauzee]

He was also 7/1 five days ago having appeared on the list following Malky MacKay being appointed.

It’s Gray and Murray who’s odds have shortened the most since then whilst McInnes has went from 2/1 to 8/1.
Yeah Pie ands Bovril posted 5 days ago the odds below

https://i.ibb.co/GVW1pHK/Screenshot-20240520-152004.png (https://ibb.co/xM1cLFp)

[badabing67]

Wonder who the 1st Manager to go next season will be. I will forward ours, Levein or Goodwin.

[Wilson]

Wonder who the 1st Manager to go next season. I will forward ours, Levein or Goodwin.

Kettlewell?

[easty]

Wonder who the 1st Manager to go next season will be. I will forward ours, Levein or Goodwin.

If Hearts sell Shankland, I'll go Naismith.

[Tyler Durden]

Ah, I stand corrected then, apologies to all concerned, I never noticed his name before.

While I’m throwing out names of people that probably won’t get the job, wonder if Chris Davies could be someone of interest?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Davies_(football_coach)

As well as being someone that meets the criteria Mackay spoke about, he has experience of Scottish football when he was Brendan Rodgers assistant. Looking at his Wikipedia page I saw the following quote which I thought also ticks off something Mackay said he was looking for:-

"Controlling the game with the ball will always be central to my philosophy but I want a degree of tactical flexibility to adapt to different opponents and different situations. I’m a pragmatic person, and I feel that transfers into my coaching."
—Davies on his coaching philosophy.[6]

People don’t leave assistant job at Spurs for the Hibs job. Think he’s already knocked back bigger jobs.

[badabing67]

If Hearts sell Shankland, I'll go Naismith.


Well that's like saying if Ange goes to Man U, I'll go Brenda to Spurs

[stantonhibby]

Ah, I stand corrected then, apologies to all concerned, I never noticed his name before.

While I’m throwing out names of people that probably won’t get the job, wonder if Chris Davies could be someone of interest?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Davies_(football_coach)

As well as being someone that meets the criteria Mackay spoke about, he has experience of Scottish football when he was Brendan Rodgers assistant. Looking at his Wikipedia page I saw the following quote which I thought also ticks off something Mackay said he was looking for:-

"Controlling the game with the ball will always be central to my philosophy but I want a degree of tactical flexibility to adapt to different opponents and different situations. I’m a pragmatic person, and I feel that transfers into my coaching."
—Davies on his coaching philosophy.[6]

He was a coach under McDermott at Reading briefly. Looks like he turned down the Swansea job in Dec.

[stokesmessiah]

Sorry if been mentioned. But SDG says at the end of his BBC interview “in the next coming days” am I reading too much into that, or are we perhaps at quite an advanced stage already?

Malky starts on the 1st, good way to start your new role by unveiling a manager?

[Unseen work]

Scott Gemmil is an excellent coach. We’ve missed the biat on Lennon who is off to Romania. Shame. 😂😂

Most things I’ve read about Gemmill are negative but not with much substance behind it.

Does anyone know if he is a good/bad coach?

What makes you think he’s excellent and don’t think he’d be good for us?

[Hibernian Verse]

In order to be fair I'm sure there's times Killie have played well though there's others that they don't which is the point I'm trying to make in your right that Ross got criticized when it went wrong which I think would also happen with Mcinnes if he started badly or hit a bad run later .


The issue for Hibs managers is that the collective "we", the fans, expect us to win every game that isn't against Rangers and Celtic. In fact, there are some posters that are very vocal even when we get thumped at Celtic Park, for example. At Killie, he has been allowed to get on with his job because they have a smaller budget and fanbase and they reaped the rewards this year.

[Donegal Hibby]

Wonder who the 1st Manager to go next season will be. I will forward ours, Levein or Goodwin.

Goodwin has to be the favourite I would have thought . Probably ours , Don Cowie / Ian Murray possible candidates too.

[CropleyWasGod]

Goodwin has to be the favourite I would have thought . Probably ours , Don Cowie / Ian Murray possible candidates too.

Why Ian Murray?

[Donegal Hibby]

The issue for Hibs managers is that the collective "we", the fans, expect us to win every game that isn't against Rangers and Celtic. In fact, there are some posters that are very vocal even when we get thumped at Celtic Park, for example. At Killie, he has been allowed to get on with his job because they have a smaller budget and fanbase and they reaped the rewards this year.

Can't argue with any of that.

[badabing67]

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article32850858.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_lennonrapidPNG.png

[Donegal Hibby]

Why Ian Murray?

I think if they got up they would struggle , I'd probably put them favourites to go down .

[badabing67]

I think if they got up they would struggle , I'd probably put them favourites to go down .

Surely he could get them back up. Think the Rovers fans would back him. Plus they got a plastic pitch. Remember Livi

[Donegal Hibby]

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article32850858.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_lennonrapidPNG.png

No more Neil Lennon threads :thumbsup:

[McGruber]

Most things I’ve read about Gemmill are negative but not with much substance behind it.

Does anyone know if he is a good/bad coach?

What makes you think he’s excellent and don’t think he’d be good for us?

Was just about to ask the same. I was up for Gemmill getting it years ago after being impressed by an interview of his (reminded me very much of Mowbray). He has been in charge of the U21s for a while now and has been doing a pretty good job (I think). I'm not advocating Gemmill for the job by any means, don't know enough about him and fancy others more, however wondered where the negativity comes from. He has far more experience than Gray as a coach and Malky will know him well.

I'd also be fine with Gray being given a shot but preference would be for a more experienced coach than both

[CropleyWasGod]

I think if they got up they would struggle , I'd probably put them favourites to go down .

That wouldn't happen until nearer the end of the season, though, surely?

[Donegal Hibby]

Surely he could get them back up. Think the Rovers fans would back him. Plus they got a plastic pitch. Remember Livi

Think it will be between St Johnstone , Dundee Utd and either Ross county/ Raith for the drop next season . You might be right about the Plastic pitch being an advantage though.

[Donegal Hibby]

That wouldn't happen until nearer the end of the season, though, surely?

Depends on the start they got off to as well , I think.

[K-Zazu]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Robinson from St Mirren? Been impressed with his St Mirren team they looked to be well organised, decent experience as well?

[badabing67]

Think it will be between St Johnstone , Dundee Utd and either Ross county/ Raith for the drop next season . You might be right about the Plastic pitch being an advantage though.

STJ getting new owners in. Maybe a bit of a cash injection for them

[Broken Gnome]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Robinson from St Mirren? Been impressed with his St Mirren team they looked to be well organised, decent experience as well?

The main positives I have to go on Robinson can't help but include that 'organised and disciplined' schtick that every pundit throws his way. I'd take that at the moment, as we rarely look organised.

Beyond that it's a bit of a mixed bag - they thoroughly cuffed us twice at Easter Road and won the game by half time (though has to win it all over again in the first game). That was as much to do with Hibs being hopeless, but was quite taken by how they were up for a scrap and endlessly won second balls.

He's also way more vocal that most managers we've had of late and rarely shuts up mid-match. That might not be necessary, but too often we meander through games with little sign of things changing.

I can't imagine we'd be easy to beat and surely would be improving on where we are now, but hard to envisage what he'd do with the extra budget and the different environment here. I'd shortlist him, be pretty content if it was him, but can't quite take to him as slam dunk first choice.

[matty_f]

I think this is the first manager appointment in a while where I've been really open-minded about who we get. I probably would have turned my nose up at McInnes or Robinson a while back but I can 100% see the merits in going for either of them. I think SDG would do a good job as well, and I always like a left-field appointment as well, so an unknown who can get the fans onside would do the trick as well.

[cameronw-hfc]

Liam Rosenior for me. Good young manager that took a team in a harder league, in a worse situation to us back to the playoffs. Can only imagine with time he'd have us right up the top end.


Don't hate Mcinnes, just don't see the point. The same folk that moaned about JR football being crap will kick up a fuss regardless of how we finish in the league with DM, so can't see it working long term even if the results are decent, not that I wouldn't take a winning Hibs team right enough.

[JohnM1875]

I think this is the first manager appointment in a while where I've been really open-minded about who we get. I probably would have turned my nose up at McInnes or Robinson a while back but I can 100% see the merits in going for either of them. I think SDG would do a good job as well, and I always like a left-field appointment as well, so an unknown who can get the fans onside would do the trick as well.

I'm in the same boat as you.

Just really hope we hear something definite (or at least a credible rumour) in the next few days. Whilst I'm open minded about who we get in, I do feel it needs to be done sharpish. Fully aware it's everyone's pre-season now

[matty_f]

I'm in the same boat as you.

Just really hope we here something definite (or at least a credible rumour) in the next few days. Whilst I'm open minded about who we get in, I do feel it needs to be done sharpish. Fully aware it's everyone's pre-season now

I agree about the need to be quick - there's a very small window to get in and assess the squad before we need to start signing players and getting ready for the League Cup group stages. We can't afford to be complacent going into them, we've seen all too recently what can happen when we don't take it seriously enough.

[04Sauzee]

Still a fan of Liam Manning with Chris Hogg assisting.

[bingo70]

I'm in the same boat as you.

Just really hope we hear something definite (or at least a credible rumour) in the next few days. Whilst I'm open minded about who we get in, I do feel it needs to be done sharpish. Fully aware it's everyone's pre-season now

Totally agree with you and Matty.

I think whoever comes in is coming in at a great time and with a good structure with good people around them.

I also think it’s entirely possible if we go for a coach type rather than a manager, even someone who has failed elsewhere could end up being good with us if they’ve got the likes of Mackay and the black knights to lean on. Anybody competent should be able to improve us, anyone good should be able to get really positive results very quickly.

Whoever we go for will have positive reasons for us appointing them so I think I really will be happy with whoever we go for.

[B.H.F.C]

I agree about the need to be quick - there's a very small window to get in and assess the squad before we need to start signing players and getting ready for the League Cup group stages. We can't afford to be complacent going into them, we've seen all too recently what can happen when we don't take it seriously enough.

Don’t want to hear us referring to ‘pre season’ when the League Cup is underway. It’s just under 8 weeks until that kicks off and that is the start of our season, not a glorified kick about.

We need to move quick. McKay officially starts on 1st June, I think the new manager will follow quite quickly after that.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/scotsunsport/status/1792587578991927662?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Ok, so who else shat themselves when they saw that tweet? Thankfully it’s a pile of nonsense and the picture doesn’t reflect the story.

For those not wanting to open the link, gambling.com have Stephen Robinson slight favourites ahead of McInnes.

[badabing67]

I think this is the first manager appointment in a while where I've been really open-minded about who we get. I probably would have turned my nose up at McInnes or Robinson a while back but I can 100% see the merits in going for either of them. I think SDG would do a good job as well, and I always like a left-field appointment as well, so an unknown who can get the fans onside would do the trick as well.

During the LJ recruitment cycle JDT was a totally out the blue contender for me, I desperately wanted us to get him at the time. And if I am right he was the clubs preferred candidate but was out or price range cause he wanted to bring in his own DoF. I am just hoping that a similar calibre candidate emerges this time. I guess it's the hope that kills you. Here's hoping though.

FWIW

Been keeping a keen eye on what was happening at Birmingham City and praying for a window of opportunity. The good news is it looks like he on the mend, the bad news is there is no chance he is coming us.

Birmingham City unmoved on Tony Mowbray as Gary Rowett officially signs off - Alex Dicken - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk) (https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-manager-tony-mowbray-29165959)

All the best for next season Mogga.

[O'Rourke3]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Robinson from St Mirren? Been impressed with his St Mirren team they looked to be well organised, decent experience as well?Year one he sorts issues and organises. Year two they play well but maybe run out of steam. Year 3 everyone has bought his best players/ out of contract and the struggle starts. He's an impact manager and our fans will be howling before Christmas Year 1. We'd be winning more than we lose but it still won't be good enough. Either still behind the farts or the style doesn't suit the fantasy.

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[Donegal Hibby]

Don't hate Mcinnes, just don't see the point. The same folk that moaned about JR football being crap will kick up a fuss regardless of how we finish in the league with DM, so can't see it working long term even if the results are decent, not that I wouldn't take a winning Hibs team right enough.

Totally agree with this .

[Unseen work]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Robinson from St Mirren? Been impressed with his St Mirren team they looked to be well organised, decent experience as well?

Would be delighted with him.

Finished 3rd with Motherwell & 2 x cup finals
Brought through Turnbull, Hastie, Scott, Campbell and Cadden at Motherwell
Back to back top 6 finished with St Mirren
Good recruitment
Brings through young players
Passionate
Teams play with energy and a directness

https://youtu.be/exsDIJDfUAE?si=KVapPCd8EhLAIQEz - This is a brilliant interview with him from earlier in the season.

Type of manager I think players would want to play for and ticks all the boxes Mackay mentioned.

[bingo70]

Liam Rosenior for me. Good young manager that took a team in a harder league, in a worse situation to us back to the playoffs. Can only imagine with time he'd have us right up the top end.


Don't hate Mcinnes, just don't see the point. The same folk that moaned about JR football being crap will kick up a fuss regardless of how we finish in the league with DM, so can't see it working long term even if the results are decent, not that I wouldn't take a winning Hibs team right enough.

That’s just not true though, nobody kicked up a fuss when we finished 3rd. Some of us said we weren’t enjoying games, even when we were winning but that’s just an opinion, surely that’s allowed and really the whole point of this place?

It was when we were on a poor run of form, 1 win in 14 or something wasn’t it that people kicked up a fuss about.

If you have a manager that cares only about the results and not the performance, they also have to accept when they’re not getting results or performances, criticism will come.

[1875M]

Would be delighted with him.

Finished 3rd with Motherwell & 2 x cup finals
Brought through Turnbull, Hastie, Scott, Campbell and Cadden at Motherwell
Back to back top 6 finished with St Mirren
Good recruitment
Brings through young players
Passionate
Teams play with energy and a directness

https://youtu.be/exsDIJDfUAE?si=KVapPCd8EhLAIQEz - This is a brilliant interview with him from earlier in the season.

Type of manager I think players would want to play for and ticks all the boxes Mackay mentioned.

Yep. He’s my choice after McInnes (who won’t come). Proven SPFL experience, very good recruitment, decent football and seems like a decent guy who players would play for.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm not saying we should go for this manager incase some get annoyed though I've been on a few football forums and a couple of them (like Barnsley) have mentioned this manager they'd like , again I'm not saying we should though thought I'd mention him....Dave Challinor .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Challinor

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/stockport-county-202223-their-tactics-under-dave-challinor-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

[may 21/05/2016]

Micheal beale

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[JohnM1875]

Micheal beale

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Imagine 😂

[Aldo]

Micheal beale

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I’d rather have Ian Beale

[JohnM1875]

I’d rather have Ian Beale

I'd rather Lucy Beale and she's been 'dead' for a decade

[Aldo]

I'd rather Lucy Beale and she's been 'dead' for a decade

[emoji1787][emoji1787]

[Donegal Hibby]

If you have a manager that cares only about the results and not the performance, they also have to accept when they’re not getting results or performances, criticism will come.

Which Imo both Mcinnes and Robinson are managers that are exactly that type , alright when it's going well though I'd doubt very much either would get the same leeway at us as they do from the fans at there current clubs .

Both are a recipe for disaster at us Imo .

[allezsauzee]

No more Neil Lennon threads :thumbsup:

Naw he'll get himself sacked so he can get the Hibs job because that's what he does apparently. Good luck to him though, maybe we'll get him back after we've sacked a couple more.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Which Imo both Mcinnes and Robinson are managers that are exactly that type , alright when it's going well though I'd doubt very much either would get the same leeway at us as they do from the fans at there current clubs .

Both are a recipe for disaster at us Imo .

Make up your mind, do you want McInnes or not? We deserve to be told.

[Exuberance1875]

Another failed Sunderland manager 😂 if its michael Beale there should genuinely be a protest outside the west stand

[Since452]

Couldn't stand listening to the used car salesman patter from Beale. He was insufferable enough at the huns.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Which Imo both Mcinnes and Robinson are managers that are exactly that type , alright when it's going well though I'd doubt very much either would get the same leeway at us as they do from the fans at there current clubs .

Both are a recipe for disaster at us Imo .

I’m not sure McInnes has ever been the type for bad runs other than at the end of an 8 year tenure at Aberdeen. Apart from that, he’s met or exceeded his clubs expectations pretty much everywhere he’s been for at least a decade.

[Donegal Hibby]

Make up your mind, do you want McInnes or not? We deserve to be told.

Over Robinson I would :aok:

[HendoDelivered]

Another failed Sunderland manager 😂 if its michael Beale there should genuinely be a protest outside the west stand

This.

[SHODAN]

McInnes or Robinson would be the go to choices for me tbh.

[Paulie Walnuts]

McInnes or Robinson would be the go to choices for me tbh.

I really don’t want Robinson and I have absolutely no reason for it. Something about him just screams that he’d be a failure even though logic suggest he wouldn’t be.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Whoever it is we need to get a move on

[Since452]

McInnes or Robinson would be the go to choices for me tbh.

Same. Would love either.

[Logie]

Mcinnes is a must for me. I’ll take the football being a bit “boring” but coming home with 3 points. Montyball I’ve been bored this season not been entertained much at all. Sir David can learn some more of his trade hopefully as DM assistant and next time round with a bit of luck, which will be a couple of years time haha DG will have loads of experience by then. I’m not totally against DG getting it now just feel it’s a monumental task this season. Ideally you want rid of most of the squad which in itself is a challenge, double the difficulty starting out for DG with such a rebuild. Experience manager that knows the league and has had success, DM edges it over Robinson for me.

[Donegal Hibby]

I really don’t want Robinson and I have absolutely no reason for it. Something about him just screams that he’d be a failure even though logic suggest he wouldn’t be.

Very rarely I agree with you though I do this time mainly because i can't stick the guy . Gray , Deila or a surprise choice that's not been mentioned on here is my preferred choice.

[HendoDelivered]

I really don’t want Robinson and I have absolutely no reason for it. Something about him just screams that he’d be a failure even though logic suggest he wouldn’t be.

Me too.

[K-Zazu]

I really don’t want Robinson and I have absolutely no reason for it. Something about him just screams that he’d be a failure even though logic suggest he wouldn’t be.

Actually feel the same the more i think about it, just doesn’t feel right.

[04Sauzee]

I hope it's not Robinson, but when you look at the squad he's got it's ridiculous he got St Mirren finishing in the league where they did.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I really don’t want Robinson and I have absolutely no reason for it. Something about him just screams that he’d be a failure even though logic suggest he wouldn’t be.
I've never been sure about this either. But I keep saying I'd like our transfer policy to go back to guys with games under their belt/ experience at our level so why not apply the same thinking to the manager.

I feel as though the last THREE managers we've had have all treated certain fixtures as learning experiences and almost written off the results and came across that way in their post match unapologetically. Maloney's first game at Celtic park stroking it about the back. Nick was the same. And Lee taking hammerings. I remember thinking this is ****ing ***** and unacceptable.

I think a guy like Robinson would know exactly what to expect and would like to think he would set up a team accordingly.

[cameronw-hfc]

I echo others sentiments on Robinson. Everything suggests he should be good, just feels wrong for some reason. Doesn't feel like it would work. No reason whatsoever to feel like that I will admit though.

[Smartie]

Left field suggestion here… and I’ve not heard anything to suggest this, merely chucking a name out after hearing Beale’s name crop up…

It had been widely reported that Beale was the main influence behind Gerrard that made him a success at Rangers.

I heard otherwise… I heard it was Gary McAllister, and that he was the one held in highest regard by the players there.

Would he fancy a head coach gig? Lots of experience as assistant. Previously happy working as part of management team with others supposedly “above”. Not currently working, I don’t believe. Experience of success in Scottish football.

Doesn’t tick the “experienced manager in his own right” box although he’s been caretaker boss at Villa.

?

[erin go bragh]

I hope it's not Robinson, but when you look at the squad he's got it's ridiculous he got St Mirren finishing in the league where they did.

No really as us and Aberdeen have been honking.

[GreenCastle]

Left field suggestion here… and I’ve not heard anything to suggest this, merely chucking a name out after hearing Beale’s name crop up…

It had been widely reported that Beale was the main influence behind Gerrard that made him a success at Rangers.

I heard otherwise… I heard it was Gary McAllister, and that he was the one held in highest regard by the players there.

Would he fancy a head coach gig? Lots of experience as assistant. Previously happy working as part of management team with others supposedly “above”. Not currently working, I don’t believe. Experience of success in Scottish football.

Doesn’t tick the “experienced manager in his own right” box although he’s been caretaker boss at Villa.

?

Beale definitely no.

Rangers had Gerrard as main manager - Beale doing the pitch coaching and Gary Mac really just advising both. Seemed to work well.

Went all wrong for Gerrard at Villa when Beale left.

Robinson…feels like a cheaper McInnes but still got a lot to prove. He’s had his wobbly moments though but what he has done is given St Mirren fans great moments and brought the fan base back together. Something and someone we desperately need.

Robinson leaving would also hopefully weaken St Mirren too which isn’t a bad thing.

[LaMotta]

Beale definitely no.

Rangers had Gerrard as main manager - Beale doing the pitch coaching and Gary Mac really just advising both. Seemed to work well.

Went all wrong for Gerrard at Villa when Beale left.

Robinson…feels like a cheaper McInnes but still got a lot to prove. He’s had his wobbly moments though but what he has done is given St Mirren fans great moments and brought the fan base back together. Something and someone we desperately need.

Robinson leaving would also hopefully weaken St Mirren too which isn’t a bad thing.


All went wrong for Beale when he left too. Why don't they just admit they are still a good couple and remarry?

[Stuart93]

Left field suggestion here… and I’ve not heard anything to suggest this, merely chucking a name out after hearing Beale’s name crop up…

It had been widely reported that Beale was the main influence behind Gerrard that made him a success at Rangers.

I heard otherwise… I heard it was Gary McAllister, and that he was the one held in highest regard by the players there.

Would he fancy a head coach gig? Lots of experience as assistant. Previously happy working as part of management team with others supposedly “above”. Not currently working, I don’t believe. Experience of success in Scottish football.

Doesn’t tick the “experienced manager in his own right” box although he’s been caretaker boss at Villa.

?

Did you see him at Sunderland? Was a state

His attitude was horrendous towards certain players as well supposedly

A big man child

[Smartie]

Did you see him at Sunderland? Was a state

His attitude was horrendous towards certain players as well supposedly

A big man child

Beale?

Yeah - he was horrendous, as he’s been pretty much everywhere.

My suggestion was Gary McAllister. Interesting cv that would tick a lot of our boxes imo.

Beale must surely be finished now, unless he gets a gig as a coach under someone else again.

[Murphys Touch]

Beale?

Yeah - he was horrendous, as he’s been pretty much everywhere.

My suggestion was Gary McAllister. Interesting cv that would tick a lot of our boxes imo.

Beale must surely be finished now, unless he gets a gig as a coach under someone else again.
He still got his boots?

[Stuart93]

Beale?

Yeah - he was horrendous, as he’s been pretty much everywhere.

My suggestion was Gary McAllister. Interesting cv that would tick a lot of our boxes imo.

Beale must surely be finished now, unless he gets a gig as a coach under someone else again.

Aw apologies I clearly never read your post correctly!

[Greensunshine]

Michael O’Neil…..it’s time to come back home 🇳🇬

[Greensunshine]

Michael O’Neil…..it’s time to come back home 🇳🇬

[greenlex]

Most things I’ve read about Gemmill are negative but not with much substance behind it.

Does anyone know if he is a good/bad coach?

What makes you think he’s excellent and don’t think he’d be good for us?
Player he has coached. From the horses mouth. The player himself is now doing well in coaching/management.

[Unseen work]

Someone on Twitter claiming Alex Neil was at the Motherwell game, any truth in this?

[Fergus52]

That’s just not true though, nobody kicked up a fuss when we finished 3rd. Some of us said we weren’t enjoying games, even when we were winning but that’s just an opinion, surely that’s allowed and really the whole point of this place?

It was when we were on a poor run of form, 1 win in 14 or something wasn’t it that people kicked up a fuss about.

If you have a manager that cares only about the results and not the performance, they also have to accept when they’re not getting results or performances, criticism will come.

There were several points during the season we came third that folk were wanting Ross sacked for the poor football.

[04Sauzee]

Someone on Twitter claiming Alex Neil was at the Motherwell game, any truth in this?

No idea but mind the time Harry Kewell turned up at Perth when we had an interim manager in place 😁

[.Sean.]

No idea but mind the time Harry Kewell turned up at Perth when we had an interim manager in place 😁
Forgot all about that 😂😂😂

[I'm Spartacus]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Robinson from St Mirren? Been impressed with his St Mirren team they looked to be well organised, decent experience as well?

I wasn't convinced the last time we were on the Manager hunt, but when you see his teams, the budget he works within, how he develops players (Gogic being the prime example, he'd be a first pick in our starting XI and we celebrated when he left), how he is on the touchline and coaching every second of every game, and finally I think he talks to the media very well being open and honest.

[04Sauzee]

I wasn't convinced the last time we were on the Manager hunt, but when you see his teams, the budget he works within, how he develops players (Gogic being the prime example, he'd be a first pick in our starting XI and we celebrated when he left), how he is on the touchline and coaching every second of every game, and finally I think he talks to the media very well being open and honest.

Listened to him on an open goal show from 8 months ago and he sounds like what MM described tbh.

[bingo70]

There were several points during the season we came third that folk were wanting Ross sacked for the poor football.

I disagree.

I was one of the biggest moaning *******s around at the time and never once suggested he should get sacked. For the most part, people like me just said we wouldn’t be disappointed if he moved on, despite the relative success we were having, that’s not the same as wanting him sacked. Folk weren’t happy with that opinion but that’s fine, it’s a game of opinions.

[Rumble de Thump]

I'll settle for Steve Clarke. I wonder if Don Cowie might come to the club in some capacity. He's worked under Malky Mackay at a few clubs.

[CapitalGreen]

There were several points during the season we came third that folk were wanting Ross sacked for the poor football.

I don’t remember many calls for him to be sacked due to league performances during that season but it is true we only scored a pitiful 48 league goals when we finished 3rd.

Over the 7 seasons in a row that Aberdeen finished top 4 they averaged 59 goals a season, scoring as many as 74 at their peak.

For comparison,

- during the Mowbray/Collins/early Mixu seasons from 2004-2008 we averaged 58 goals a season.
- during the Lennon + early Hecky top flight seasons from 2017-2019 we averaged 57 goals a sesson.
- Stubbs cup winning team and Lennon’s promotion team only scored 59 goals in the 2nd tier.

In the league, DM’s Aberdeen team scored more and won more than the most celebrated teams in our recent history.

[Brightside]

I disagree.

I was one of the biggest moaning *******s around at the time and never once suggested he should get sacked. For the most part, people like me just said we wouldn’t be disappointed if he moved on, despite the relative success we were having, that’s not the same as wanting him sacked. Folk weren’t happy with that opinion but that’s fine, it’s a game of opinions.

There was plenty people during covid that were on here wanting Ross sacked before his poor run of form. Just look at post Cup games.

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-klopp-essential-qualities-new-manager-4635996

That’s Robinson or Mcinnes for me.

The other person that springs to mind based on interviews I’ve seen and what I’ve seen is Kevin Thomson. That simply won’t happen but he ticks those boxes imo.

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I wasn't convinced the last time we were on the Manager hunt, but when you see his teams, the budget he works within, how he develops players (Gogic being the prime example, he'd be a first pick in our starting XI and we celebrated when he left), how he is on the touchline and coaching every second of every game, and finally I think he talks to the media very well being open and honest.


Gogic wasn't good enough 'for where we wanted to be', apparently.

I'd quite like to be in St Mirren's place right now, tbh.

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I disagree.

I was one of the biggest moaning *******s around at the time and never once suggested he should get sacked. For the most part, people like me just said we wouldn’t be disappointed if he moved on, despite the relative success we were having, that’s not the same as wanting him sacked. Folk weren’t happy with that opinion but that’s fine, it’s a game of opinions.


Ah, the old 'wouldn't be disappointed'... what this meant was that when results faltered and we went on a bad run, the knives were out.

Many of our problems can be traced back to that awful decision to sack Jack Ross when we did. I hope Hibs never again have the arrogance and stupidity to sack a manager the week before a major cup final.

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-klopp-essential-qualities-new-manager-4635996

That’s Robinson or Mcinnes for me.

The other person that springs to mind based on interviews I’ve seen and what I’ve seen is Kevin Thomson. That simply won’t happen but he ticks those boxes imo.

I think we will know soon enough as the club will use a Hibs leaning journalist (Patrick McPartlin?) to kill a rumour if support is growing too much for someone who isn’t going to get it, like McInnes, Gray or Robinson.

I really find it hard to believe we are starting the process from scratch and going for the usual routine of creating a shortlist, interviewing them before making a decision. I am convinced Mackay will know who he wants and just be a case of convincing them, agreeing the contact and getting it announced. We won’t kill the other rumours like McInnes etc until we have got Mackays first choice confirmed.

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-klopp-essential-qualities-new-manager-4635996

That’s Robinson or Mcinnes for me.

The other person that springs to mind based on interviews I’ve seen and what I’ve seen is Kevin Thomson. That simply won’t happen but he ticks those boxes imo.


Katie is a leftfield suggestion. He really has nothing in terms of proven ability as a coach. Ian Murray must be miles ahead of him, surely? Even SDG has more to show on his cv as a head coach (albeit interim and short term).

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I'll settle for Steve Clarke. I wonder if Don Cowie might come to the club in some capacity. He's worked under Malky Mackay at a few clubs.

Steve Clark would be an outstanding appointment.

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Katie is a leftfield suggestion. He really has nothing in terms of proven ability as a coach. Ian Murray must be miles ahead of him, surely? Even SDG has more to show on his cv as a head coach (albeit interim and short term).

I genuinely think Thomson killed his managerial career by trying to do the right thing and start at the bottom.

He opened his own coaching academy, got a job coaching Rangers for the youth team and then went to Kelty where he got them promoted and played a good brand of football.

If he never went to Kelty he probably would have been interim manager for rangers at some point and got a better managerial job from it.

I think Thomson has shown more as a coach/manager than Gray, also think he talks a lot more like a manager and ‘people catcher’

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Katie is a leftfield suggestion. He really has nothing in terms of proven ability as a coach. Ian Murray must be miles ahead of him, surely? Even SDG has more to show on his cv as a head coach (albeit interim and short term).

He was in the Albion on Wednesday night - in the KTA tracksuit. We did joke that he should really wear a suit for his interview and he said he had no chance of an interview.