Next Manager?

[K-Zazu]

I didn't realise that McDermott was still at Hibs; I got it in my head that he'd left. What exactly will his role be once Mackay and the new manager are in place?

Scout I think

[CentreForward]

Is Robinson actually completely ruled out? Could it still be him? If not then what are the realistic chances of Deila. Would be very happy with either of them!

[GreenGray]

Context is important. All those other football clubs that appoint managers from all over the world. But we can’t do it ? Or because the last one failed we have to appoint from within ?

I’m hoping the club are keeping things very quiet and there are candidates that we aren’t hearing about, because as it stands. The options are disappointing given the state we are in. A rookie manager is not what we need.

Which coach from somewhere in the world could we realistically appoint? And what makes you think this person will do better than Gray?

Every successful coach we have had in the last 20 years has had Scottish football experience. It isn't rocket science, we don't need some left-field coach from some other league.

Gray knows better than most what issues with the squad need addressed quickly, and we don't exactly have long before the start of next season.

[sleeping giant]

Alex Neil still a possibility?
Favourite for Birmingham job but they're taking their time too.

[bingo70]

Could well be, but that’s not good enough to be honest. Get it announced. Doesn’t need to be paired with an interview. That can wait.

Correct.

Him being on holiday wouldn’t stop him from being announced as manager. There’ll be a statement prepared by the club he just has to sign off and they’d say interview in full to come on HibsTV.

[Donegal Hibby]

Folk on about Grays lack of experience as a manager , I wonder how they'd be if it was Mark Warburton that got it ? .

[bingo70]

Folk on about Grays lack of experience as a manager , I wonder how they'd be if it was Mark Warburton that got it ? .

I think it’s always worth bearing in mind, it doesn’t really matter what we think.

It could be an incredibly popular appointment who does terrible and it could be a universally unpopular appointment (like Warburton) who ends up doing well.

Natural for us all to have an opinion on it as it’s a big deal, too much emphasis put on what would be perceived to be a good/bad appointment though.

[Unseen work]

Folk on about Grays lack of experience as a manager , I wonder how they'd be if it was Mark Warburton that got it ? .

Any reason you’ve mentioned Warburton?👀

[Donegal Hibby]

I think it’s always worth bearing in mind, it doesn’t really matter what we think.

It could be an incredibly popular appointment who does terrible and it could be a universally unpopular appointment (like Warburton) who ends up doing well.

Natural for us all to have an opinion on it as it’s a big deal, too much emphasis put on what would be perceived to be a good/bad appointment though.

True , it doesn't really matter what we think . I'd imagine the decision is already made now so we will just have to roll with it when it's announced.

Wither popular/unpopular or experienced or not all our opinions including my own on how the next Hibs manager will do is just guesswork as nobody knows how they'll do .

Moving on players that aren't good enough and recruiting good players will give whoever it is a better chance to succeed though which is hopefully what will happen.

[Scottie]

Any reason you’ve mentioned Warburton?��
Cause he's a fanny and wears a hat (one of the best songs of recent years imo) :greengrin

[NC1875]

Which coach from somewhere in the world could we realistically appoint? And what makes you think this person will do better than Gray?

Every successful coach we have had in the last 20 years has had Scottish football experience. It isn't rocket science, we don't need some left-field coach from some other league.

Gray knows better than most what issues with the squad need addressed quickly, and we don't exactly have long before the start of next season.

Are you for real ? Of all the coaches/managers in the world, you believe David Gray is the best man for the job ?

It’s not my job to find the right man. But it sure as hell isn’t David Gray at this moment in time.

[Callum_62]

Cause he's a fanny and wears a hat (one of the best songs of recent years imo) :greengrin*A Hibees Hat

Potentially? [emoji1]



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[Donegal Hibby]

Any reason you’ve mentioned Warburton?��

Absolutely none , other than a manager out of work with a knowledge of Scottish football. I did wonder would MM have known him from his time in England though with the ex rangers connection I'd very much doubt he'd be a candidate .

[Scottie]

*A Hibees Hat

Potentially? [emoji1]



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I wouldn't mind the chap for comedy value. Can't be any worse than some of the suggestions on here and after all he was hugely responsible for our greatest day at Hampden :wink::greengrin

[GreenGray]

Are you for real ? Of all the coaches/managers in the world, you believe David Gray is the best man for the job ?

It’s not my job to find the right man. But it sure as hell isn’t David Gray at this moment in time.

Did I say that?

I think due to the situation we found ourselves in Gray is less of a risk than bringing in some coach from another league who doesn’t have a clue as to how things work here.

The other names linked are either worse choice or not realistic imo.


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[Donegal Hibby]

I wouldn't mind the chap for comedy value. Can't be any worse than some of the suggestions on here and after all he was hugely responsible for our greatest day at Hampden :wink::greengrin

Does that make him a Hibs legend too ? 🤔😂

[matty_f]

Thing with SDG, is that if it goes wrong (and obviously I hope it goes very well) when we look back at the decision to hire him it will look mental, like an obviously bad decision on paper.

[Smartie]

Thing with SDG, is that if it goes wrong (and obviously I hope it goes very well) when we look back at the decision to hire him it will look mental, like an obviously bad decision on paper.

And if it goes right, do we go down the rookie avenue every time, as it has so obviously worked this time? Or is that another stand alone decision to be made, with no guarantees of success (it is in my opinion)?


As an aside, one of the arguments I have against Gray is that he might be a roaring success... which will probably mean our relationship finishes with Gray in about 3 years. AT best he'd go to England and do well, at worst he'd go along the M8 and do well.

The "how do we deal with SDG leaving us" moment is something we're going to have to get our heads around, having just got our heads around it with Stevenson and Hanlon.

[matty_f]

And if it goes right, do we go down the rookie avenue every time, as it has so obviously worked this time? Or is that another stand alone decision to be made, with no guarantees of success (it is in my opinion)?


As an aside, one of the arguments I have against Gray is that he might be a roaring success... which will probably mean our relationship finishes with Gray in about 3 years. AT best he'd go to England and do well, at worst he'd go along the M8 and do well.

The "how do we deal with SDG leaving us" moment is something we're going to have to get our heads around, having just got our heads around it with Stevenson and Hanlon.
If it works then we probably look to replicate the process by bringing through the next Head Coach in the way we have with SDG.

I hope that's what happens.

[Smartie]

If it works then we probably look to replicate the process by bringing through the next Head Coach in the way we have with SDG.

I hope that's what happens.

It would be great to get into a cycle where that does happen.

You'd have to think he'd probably want to strip away the most suitable candidates to be his backroom team elsewhere though.

(Probably getting ahead of ourselves here, enough to concern ourselves about with this appointment without worrying about the next one).

[Pedantic_Hibee]

If it works then we probably look to replicate the process by bringing through the next Head Coach in the way we have with SDG.

I hope that's what happens.

Big Daz

[gbhibby]

Just get it sorted ASAP clearly there was no Succession planning.

[Posh Swanny]

I'm like a jack-in-a-box everytime I get a message from the Hibs WhatsApp channel at the moment.

Crushing disappointment every time. But good to see how our lads got on while out on loan last season. :rolleyes:

[NC1875]

If Gray gets the job, I’ll back him 100%. It’s not a dislike for him. I feel he shouldn’t be anywhere near a job as big as Hibs right now and so do plenty of others.

I've still not seen an argument that merits why he should be getting one of the biggest jobs in Scotland with 10 games management experience as a caretaker.

We hope he’s the right man for the job but I have my doubts.

The real problem is the people running the club, and I think they’re going for Gray knowing the fans will give him more time than some random with no connection to the club.

And you shouldn’t be picking your next manager based on that.

[Onceinawhile]

Just get it sorted ASAP clearly there was no Succession planning.

That's cause the folk from Succession bought Hearts by mistake.

[gbhibby]

That's cause the folk from Succession bought Hearts by mistake.

Just hope we don't Cox up the next managerial appointment.

[K-Zazu]

Will need to announce it before the Euros starts I would imagine? No particular reason to i suppose but would make sense with all the other football going on?

[Hibs3-2]

Tonights the night.

[Itsnoteasy]

Cause he's a fanny and wears a hat (one of the best songs of recent years imo) :greengrin

It works against Dumbarton & other $h1t3 like that.

[bingo70]

Tonights the night.

Interesting.

Inside info or just a hunch?

[gbhibby]

Tonights the night.
So its Rod Stewart then.

[joe breezy]

That's cause the folk from Succession bought Hearts by mistake.

Classic scene

“I’m Hibs”


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[Mcbizz1998]

People on X seem to reckon 6pm announcement?

[K-Zazu]

People on X seem to reckon 6pm announcement?

Got a link?

[Jim44]

:shhhsh!: I don’ t want to talk about it.

[Donegal Hibby]

So its Rod Stewart then.

He'd definitely give the team some spirit .

[04Sauzee]

Got a link?

Been looking around the internet and this is the only link I can find.

https://i.ibb.co/vVsntJj/chain-link.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Scottie]

Does that make him a Hibs legend too ? 🤔😂:agree:


People on X seem to reckon 6pm announcement?
Thought SDG was still in Disney land, if so can’t be him :dunno:

[SHODAN]

People on X seem to reckon 6pm announcement?

Doesn't look like it.

[gbhibby]

He'd definitely give the team some spirit .

We need some Hot Legs on the park.

[Wilson]

If Gray gets the job, I’ll back him 100%. It’s not a dislike for him. I feel he shouldn’t be anywhere near a job as big as Hibs right now and so do plenty of others.

I've still not seen an argument that merits why he should be getting one of the biggest jobs in Scotland with 10 games management experience as a caretaker.

We hope he’s the right man for the job but I have my doubts.

The real problem is the people running the club, and I think they’re going for Gray knowing the fans will give him more time than some random with no connection to the club.

And you shouldn’t be picking your next manager based on that.

You're not being fair though.

I imagine Gray has been a consideration previously and we have looked elsewhere. Perhaps on the back of some of the same fears people have.

Just maybe we've been looking too much to England and Australia and the right man really is under our noses.

We won't know unless we give him the reigns.

For me, we can't keep him around any longer. He is becoming a spectre looming large in the background of failing managers. I don't think it is fair on him or the alternative that that continues.

He is either the man for the job or he goes somewhere else and does it.

[we are hibs]

Is John Greechan on some sort of commission if David Gray gets the job?

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[K-Zazu]

Is John Greechan on some sort of commission if David Gray gets the job?

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Who he ?

[GloryGlory]

Who he ?

EEN correspondent who reports on Hibs.

[thebausburst]

Is John Greechan on some sort of commission if David Gray gets the job?

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The club have been briefing pro Gray stories to the EEN for weeks now, very obvious DG has the job.

[jeffers]

You're not being fair though.

I imagine Gray has been a consideration previously and we have looked elsewhere. Perhaps on the back of some of the same fears people have.

Just maybe we've been looking too much to England and Australia and the right man really is under our noses.

We won't know unless we give him the reigns.

For me, we can't keep him around any longer. He is becoming a spectre looming large in the background of failing managers. I don't think it is fair on him or the alternative that that continues.

He is either the man for the job or he goes somewhere else and does it.

I fully expect him to move on if he isn’t appointed manager.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is John Greechan on some sort of commission if David Gray gets the job?

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Maybe worried his team might lose Murray .

[Since452]

Been looking around the internet and this is the only link I can find.

https://i.ibb.co/vVsntJj/chain-link.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

The Chain? Fleetwood Mac? Fleetwood Town? Charlie Adam? Aww naw

[Greenworld]

You're not being fair though.

I imagine Gray has been a consideration previously and we have looked elsewhere. Perhaps on the back of some of the same fears people have.

Just maybe we've been looking too much to England and Australia and the right man really is under our noses.

We won't know unless we give him the reigns.

For me, we can't keep him around any longer. He is becoming a spectre looming large in the background of failing managers. I don't think it is fair on him or the alternative that that continues.

He is either the man for the job or he goes somewhere else and does it.I'll be honest he should not be at the club now. Various managers and the backroom staff have gone but not gray .
Why is that, the game these guys are in you are a coaching or management team and when it does not work you all go usually Apart from gray and that does not sit well with me .
It's like an inside man whose untouchable .
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[Real Emerald]

I'll be honest he should not be at the club now. Various managers and the backroom staff have gone but not gray .
Why is that, the game these guys are in you are a coaching or management team and when it does not work you all go usually Apart from gray and that does not sit well with me .
It's like an inside man whose untouchable .
Nothing against the man but why is he always spared



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I just think if he wants to be a manager he needs to move on and learn his trade down the divisions, he can come back to Hibs at a later date. Crazy to think he could walk straight into the managers job at Hibs.

[Hibiza]

Think that rumour is " Sailing " away.

[tamig]

I'll be honest he should not be at the club now. Various managers and the backroom staff have gone but not gray .
Why is that, the game these guys are in you are a coaching or management team and when it does not work you all go usually Apart from gray and that does not sit well with me .
It's like an inside man whose untouchable .
Nothing against the man but why is he always spared



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A bit like John Kennedy at Celtic?

[Greenworld]

A bit like John Kennedy at Celtic?Yes I suppose it is to a degree . The Celtic fans don't particularly like that situation either . I don't really care much about them maybe he has a hotline to the owners

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[K-Zazu]

I'll be honest he should not be at the club now. Various managers and the backroom staff have gone but not gray .
Why is that, the game these guys are in you are a coaching or management team and when it does not work you all go usually Apart from gray and that does not sit well with me .
It's like an inside man whose untouchable .
Nothing against the man but why is he always spared



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Because he scored that goal probably, if it wasn’t for that cup final he would have been offski years ago.

[J-C]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

[SeanWilson]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

There really isn't.

I highly doubt there is anyone on this thread who dislikes SDG.

Not wanting him to be the next hibs manager does not constitute disliking him.

[Greenworld]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.No there is not . It's a viewpoint on things outside of winning the cup . If you cannot separate the two then that for me is a narrow vision on things.
Everyone loves gray for what he did that day . Let's not confuse the the two points.
For me and others now is not the right time for him ,that's not a dislike of the person .

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[Paul1642]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

I’ve not seen a single post that comes across as disliking David Gray.

Questioning his suitability for the joint 3rd biggest manger job in the county, and arguably one of the hardest right now, is a completely different matter.

[NC1875]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

Like I said earlier, I don’t dislike him.

I just don’t think his first management job should be a club the size of Hibs. Especially the mess we’re in just now.

I’m interested why you clearly think he’s the best man for such a massive job ?

[J-C]

I'll be honest he should not be at the club now. Various managers and the backroom staff have gone but not gray .
Why is that, the game these guys are in you are a coaching or management team and when it does not work you all go usually Apart from gray and that does not sit well with me .
It's like an inside man whose untouchable .
Nothing against the man but why is he always spared



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Because he scored that goal probably, if it wasn’t for that cup final he would have been offski years ago.

Can't be arsed looking back on multiple pages but he's 2 from just a couple posts back

[andrew70]

No one dislikes Gray but no matter their affection for him it doesn’t change the fact he’s not ready to be our head coach.

[Paul1642]

Can't be arsed looking back on multiple pages but he's 2 from just a couple posts back

Still not seeing the hate. Just questions being asked if his continued employment is best for the club.

My take on it is that it is, however it’s not wrong to ask the question. Like like with Lewis moving on, sentiment doesn’t win games.

[Since452]

I think I'd probably feel more comfortable with Murray with Gray as his assistant. Wouldn't have been my original choice but seems about the best option just now.

[JimBHibees]

Can't be arsed looking back on multiple pages but he's 2 from just a couple posts back

Yes both weird posts

[B.H.F.C]

Whoever it’s going to be we could really be doing with it being done this week. 5 and a half weeks until our season starts so time isn’t on our side. Needs done so we can start looking forward.

[Smartie]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

It’s utterly bizarre.

The disrespect shown for no apparent reason to someone who arguably more deserving of our respect than anyone else is quite mind blowing.

Fair enough, hold an opinion that his credentials don’t match up to your current expectations regarding who we need as manager, or maybe hold an opinion with info most of us aren’t party to that he’s not up to it as a coach - if so, share the info and make the case.

But if we can’t respect David Gray and his achievements in a Hibs jersey then ask yourself a few questions about why you bother.

[Greenworld]

It’s utterly bizarre.

The disrespect shown for no apparent reason to someone who arguably more deserving of our respect than anyone else is quite mind blowing.

Fair enough, hold an opinion that his credentials don’t match up to your current expectations regarding who we need as manager, or maybe hold an opinion with info most of us aren’t party to that he’s not up to it as a coach - if so, share the info and make the case.

But if we can’t respect David Gray and his achievements in a Hibs jersey then ask yourself a few questions about why you bother.I'm confused all the points made by me and others are opinions of the appointment of our new manager / coach whatever name you or J-C prefer.
There is no disrespect of David Gray the person .
This is supposed to be a new start after a full review , if the board comes back with the view that SDG is the man then so be it .
I don't think he is the man at this stage and if you think that's disrespectful of the person , the the board are going to have to be disrespectful of the other candidates when they tell them they are not getting the job as in there view they are not the person for the job right now.

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[Donegal Hibby]

There's some weird dislike of our cup winning captain on this thread, hard to believe some call themselves Hibs supporters.

The reaction to Gray has been hard to fathom out in all honesty . Really surprised by it !.

[Unseen work]

I can’t say I’ve noticed any disrespect or dislike for SDG, just people giving pretty valid opinions on why they don’t think he could be head coach

[davhibby]

Whoever it’s going to be we could really be doing with it being done this week. 5 and a half weeks until our season starts so time isn’t on our side. Needs done so we can start looking forward.

Mackay’s first target should have been to pretty much have the manager situation sorted by his official start date. That’s not an unreasonable timeframe and if we’d taken this long to appoint a manager mid season everyone would be going mental.

The team are back in 2 weeks on Friday, someone really should be in by the end of the week so they’ve had the chance to assess and hopefully we’d have a player or two in. If that person turns out to be Gray then there’s absolutely no reason he shouldn’t have already been announced.

[Just_Jimmy]

If its SDG then it begs huge questions of those running the club.

1. If he works out, why did it take them 3 failures to realise the answer was under their nose the whole time?
2. If it doesn't work out, what the hell gave them the idea that it was the answer?

It's a huge gamble from the club. Not for SDG because he's not getting the opportunity at this level anywhere else so he'll rightly have a go if offered the chance. I just feel like he's being offered up to save those running the club.

If it is SDG then I hope to god it works out.

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[Smartie]

Mackay’s first target should have been to pretty much have the manager situation sorted by his official start date. That’s not an unreasonable timeframe and if we’d taken this long to appoint a manager mid season everyone would be going mental.

The team are back in 2 weeks on Friday, someone really should be in by the end of the week so they’ve had the chance to assess and hopefully we’d have a player or two in. If that person turns out to be Gray then there’s absolutely no reason he shouldn’t have already been announced.

Expecting him to have something finished before he’s even started isn’t an unreasonable timeframe?

[DIXIHIBS]

The reaction to Gray has been hard to fathom out in all honesty . Really surprised by it !.

I think it shows there are quite a few interlopers on here. Some posters have a genuine concern about it being too soon for Gray but certain posters are better ignored...they are at it.

[Brooster]

I think it shows there are quite a few interlopers on here. Some posters have a genuine concern about it being too soon for Gray but certain posters are better ignored...they are at it.

Correct.....folk who probably go to 2 games a season if you're luck moaning about everything the club does at the moment. This place is becoming more like Facebook every day.

[Bobby's Cinema]

If its SDG then it begs huge questions of those running the club.

1. If he works out, why did it take them 3 failures to realise the answer was under their nose the whole time?
2. If it doesn't work out, what the hell gave them the idea that it was the answer?

It's a huge gamble from the club. Not for SDG because he's not getting the opportunity at this level anywhere else so he'll rightly have a go if offered the chance. I just feel like he's being offered up to save those running the club.

If it is SDG then I hope to god it works out.

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So the knives are out even if it goes well thats good. That's just ridiculous

[SeanWilson]

Correct.....folk who probably go to 2 games a season if you're luck moaning about everything the club does at the moment. This place is becoming more like Facebook every day.

You consider people who go to 2 games a season an ‘interloper’ here?

That’s more ridiculous than saying anyone in this thread has a dislike for David gray.

[Scotty Leither]

If it is Davey Gray, can the club not just announce it and then get some players in so we hit these League Cup fixtures with some momentum, win the 4 games and in the process score a few goals?

[tonyrougier123]

David Gray is a monumental figure in hibs folklore. Looks driven and determined to succeed at coaching and I think he will be a successful coach.
At this time for hibs I just don’t feel good about the possibility of him becoming head coach just now,gut feeling it’s not the right move is how I’d explain it.
That said I will definitely find the excitement and usual pre season enthusiasm,and just imagine David Gray was the man to fire us up with the help of Malky Mackay pulling the strings. Could be special,and at least we would finally have the answer to the Dave Gray question.

I remain hopeful we will have an inspired appointment full of contacts and a defensive build from the back approach. Davie moyes?

[Keepthefaith]

One thing I find interesting is how many folk were crying out for someone who knows the Scottish leagues, yet SDG is being dismissed as too inexperienced despite huge experience as player and coach.

Feels to me folk have whipped themselves into a frenzy, in order to say they were right re the club having no ambition, being run unprofessionally by the gordons, Ben etc etc

Fact is, things are different. We have new influence through the BK group, a new head of football operations ( whether we agree or not) and an intent to be top 4 consistently. What pees me off is the lazy accusations of same old Hibs. It isn't.

IF we appoint Gray, I'll be behind him, sure he has a lot to prove but with a good team around him we have no idea if he will be better or worse than another choice.

I think Mackay will do most of the face to face decision making re cull of the squad, taking away some of the challenges gray would expect.

Maybe he'll do a Kieran McKenna and go win the bloody league for us... keep the heid and keep the faith , the club do not want to fail again, rest assured.

[Real Emerald]

It’s utterly bizarre.

The disrespect shown for no apparent reason to someone who arguably more deserving of our respect than anyone else is quite mind blowing.

Fair enough, hold an opinion that his credentials don’t match up to your current expectations regarding who we need as manager, or maybe hold an opinion with info most of us aren’t party to that he’s not up to it as a coach - if so, share the info and make the case.

But if we can’t respect David Gray and his achievements in a Hibs jersey then ask yourself a few questions about why you bother.

There’s nothing remotely bizarre about it. It’s a forum full of fans that have spent their lives supporting and loving Hibs and want nothing more than success on the pitch. The fans including me, who are saying we don’t want SdG to get the job is because we are concerned it’s not the right appointment, or at the very least too risky at this point in his yet to start managerial career. Any suggestion that this point of view is bizarre, disrespectful or hate is absolutely ridiculous. We all love SDG.

[TrinityHFC]

There’s nothing remotely bizarre about it. It’s a forum full of fans that have spent their lives supporting and loving Hibs and want nothing more than success on the pitch. The fans including me, who are saying we don’t want SdG to get the job is because we are concerned it’s not the right appointment, or at the very least too risky at this point in his yet to start managerial career. Any suggestion that this point of view is bizarre, disrespectful or hate is absolutely ridiculous. We all love SDG.

‘Nothing against the man’

The man? It’s David Gray. Sir David Gray usually.

Some of the language and tone is strangely disrespectful.

[Real Emerald]

‘Nothing against the man’

The man? It’s David Gray. Sir David Gray usually.

Some of the language and tone is strangely disrespectful.

Who are you quoting, certainly not me?

[Donegal Hibby]

The fans including me, who are saying we don’t want SdG to get the job is because we are concerned it’s not the right appointment

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.

[Onion]

I can’t say I’ve noticed any disrespect or dislike for SDG, just people giving pretty valid opinions on why they don’t think he could be head coach

Agreed. IMO this is more a reflection of the lack of trust and faith a lot of folk have in the decision-making of the Hibs Board and owner. If this was a competent owner, if this was a competent Board or if the Foley's had visibly taken the lead in the selection of manager and out of a decent list of candidates they chose SDG then I don't think there would have been nearly as much questioning and uncertainty. We would all have rejoiced in the appointment of a great Hibs Legend leading us into a bright future. But none of that is the case.

SDG is more respected and valued by the fans thnt any Board member or the Owner - he has fully earned it. When Hibs fans called for Heroes in May 2016, David Gray stepped up - and then some. This Owner and Board are the weak links here.

Finally, if they do select SDG for this job and it goes tits up, very few fans will be pointing fingers at SDG. The full fury will be reserved for this Board and Owners.

[Iain G]

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.

Klopp! Get it done Malky! Otherwise we are not showing ambition 😁

[Cracker]

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.
Your question would indicate that you, hand on heart , think that 100% David Gray will be successful! Yes/no?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.

Do you need to have a suggestion that is a 100% guaranteed success to be allowed to not think SDG is the man for the job?

[NC1875]

‘Nothing against the man’

The man? It’s David Gray. Sir David Gray usually.

Some of the language and tone is strangely disrespectful.

The only thing strange is you getting upset at someone calling him “the man”. 😂

Boozy in the press calling him a great “man”, should he be calling him Sir David as well ?

You’re calling people disrespectful because they don’t share the same opinion as you. There has not been one disrespectful thing said that I can see.

People are voicing concerns that Gray isn’t the right man for the job at this moment in time, that’s not disrespectful. It’s a perfect valid point.

I wish they’d just announce him and get on with it.

[southern hibby]

I don’t think for one second any true Hibs fan is being disrespectful to DG. INFACT I think it’s the opposite, I believe there’s lots of Hibs fans ( myself included ) are scared that he takes the job and if it goes wrong then he will be remembered in a different light than he is at present.

I genuinely don’t know if he would do a good job as our manager but if he gets the job he gets my backing the same as if it was any other candidate.

One thing I do think is maybe just maybe DG can get Hibs fans optimism back because it’s sorely lacking in all aspects of our fan base at present.

GGTTH

[blackpoolhibs]

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.

I can't give you a guarantee any manager will be a success, can you?

[Aldo]

Being concerned that is fair enough. So if you and the other fans that don't want him and are unwilling to give him a chance , I ask the question to you who would you want that you can hand on heart tell me 100% that will guarantee our club is going to be successful?.

Every single manager/coach is a risk however it’s how the club manage that risk that’s important. Two of our last three managers have been rookies with little or no managerial experience so it’s fair to say they’ve not managed that risk very well.

It’s not about giving a manager or coach a chance it’s a case of Groundhog Day with another rookie.

[Mainstandman]

Gonna be some banter on here when the club announce Malky Mackay as the manager!

[easty]

You're not being fair though.

I imagine Gray has been a consideration previously and we have looked elsewhere. Perhaps on the back of some of the same fears people have.

Just maybe we've been looking too much to England and Australia and the right man really is under our noses.

We won't know unless we give him the reigns.

For me, we can't keep him around any longer. He is becoming a spectre looming large in the background of failing managers. I don't think it is fair on him or the alternative that that continues.

He is either the man for the job or he goes somewhere else and does it.

I don’t imagine SDG was ever seriously considered for the role previously, if at all. Not because of the fears of the fans either, because he wasn’t ready for it.

I disagree with your last point too, he could stay and work as potentially an assistant manager, finish his coaching badges and get more experience. He’s 36 years old with about 3 years of coaching experience. Maybe he is ready now, but I certainly don’t think he’s at the point where he can say give me the job or I’m leaving.

[jeffers]

I don’t imagine SDG was ever seriously considered for the role previously, if at all. Not because of the fears of the fans either, because he wasn’t ready for it.

I disagree with your last point too, he could stay and work as potentially an assistant manager, finish his coaching badges and get more experience. He’s 36 years old with about 3 years of coaching experience. Maybe he is ready now, but I certainly don’t think he’s at the point where he can say give me the job or I’m leaving.

If he doesn’t get the job I think it’s time for him to move on. The idea of him being the assistant manager to whoever we appoint with a view to taking over in future sounds good in theory, but only if whoever we appointed was a success. I can imagine the outcry if he was assistant to a failed manager and he was then given the top job. Asides from anything else how many managers take a job without bringing in their own assistant ?

[easty]

If he doesn’t get the job I think it’s time for him to move on. The idea of him being the assistant manager to whoever we appoint with a view to taking over in future sounds good in theory, but only if whoever we appointed was a success. I can imagine the outcry if he was assistant to a failed manager and he was then given the top job. Asides from anything else how many managers take a job without bringing in their own assistant ?

I cannae understand someone taking on a coaching job at Hibs, and it being their first coaching job, and before they’ve even finished the training they’re thinking about having to move on.

He’s not being held back here, he’s learning, he’s going through his coaching badges, and he’s getting opportunities to take the first team when we don’t have a manager in place.

Like I’ve said previously though, if he gets the job (and I think he probably is going to get it) he’ll get my 100% support. In my opinion, I t’s not disrespectful or anti-SDG to think that he’s not the right choice for the job just now.

[bingo70]

I don’t imagine SDG was ever seriously considered for the role previously, if at all. Not because of the fears of the fans either, because he wasn’t ready for it.

I disagree with your last point too, he could stay and work as potentially an assistant manager, finish his coaching badges and get more experience. He’s 36 years old with about 3 years of coaching experience. Maybe he is ready now, but I certainly don’t think he’s at the point where he can say give me the job or I’m leaving.

Totally agree.

Gray is just a baby in terms of his managerial and coaching career, if he wants to do it right he would be better served taking his time. I don’t doubt for a second he thinks he’s ready but he only has one opportunity at his first job and if he gets it wrong it will set the tone for his managerial career. I think he would disagree but imo the best outcome for Gray would be to get promoted to assistant manager to someone who really knows what they are doing, get his pro license over the next year or two while being supported by everyone at the club, including Mackay and the new manager and then hopefully take over from the next manager from a position of strength as hopefully the club will perform better in the next year or two.

We are now part of a network of clubs that could see him having the opportunity to learn from the likes of Iraola while learning his trade. It would be crazy for him to throw his toys out the pram and leave if he doesn’t get the job this time.

[Ship of Hope]

I’m not sure how SDG being promoted to assistant manager would work? The relationship between a manager and their assistant is very important. Would a new manager have to accept the club have appointed SDG? This in itself may limit our pool of applicants as most will want to bring their own team imo. I think it will be more likely a case of all or nothing - SDG will get the main gig or he will remain as a coach or choose to move on. With some reservations I am starting to warm to him as our next gaffer. What he maybe lacks in experience will be compensated for by his commitment and ambition for the club. The latter I think we can all agree he has in abundance.

[easty]

I’m not sure how SDG being promoted to assistant manager would work? The relationship between a manager and their assistant is very important. Would a new manager have to accept the club have appointed SDG? This in itself may limit our pool of applicants as most will want to bring their own team imo. I think it will be more likely a case of all or nothing - SDG will get the main gig or he will remain as a coach or choose to move on. With some reservations I am starting to warm to him as our next gaffer. What he maybe lacks in experience will be compensated for by his commitment and ambition for the club. The latter I think we can all agree he has in abundance.

A new manager could bring his own assistant and have Gray too. I don’t see why that’d be a problem for any potential manager coming in.

[bingo70]

I’m not sure how SDG being promoted to assistant manager would work? The relationship between a manager and their assistant is very important. Would a new manager have to accept the club have appointed SDG? This in itself may limit our pool of applicants as most will want to bring their own team imo. I think it will be more likely a case of all or nothing - SDG will get the main gig or he will remain as a coach or choose to move on. With some reservations I am starting to warm to him as our next gaffer. What he maybe lacks in experience will be compensated for by his commitment and ambition for the club. The latter I think we can all agree he has in abundance.

Im the same as you with regards to SDG, I have reservations and he’s not my choice but if he does get it, there are positive attributes he has that I can get fully behind and hope for the best. I feel like I’m warming to the idea of him becoming manager but I also feel like I’m trying to convince myself rather than truly believing it. I think if he gets it I will be positive about it, if he doesn’t get it my emotions will be relief rather than disappointment.

As for him being assistant manager for A.N Other, I don’t think it should be an issue as long as it’s communicated properly from the outset. I really think appointing an experienced coach on the premise they are also to be a mentor to a highly rated and enthusiastic up and coming coach who knows the club and league inside out should be hugely appealing and helpful to them.

If we wait until the final hurdle and then tell them they can’t get their own assistant as it’s SDG or nobody, of course, that’s wouldn’t be a healthy relationship.

[Brightside]

If gray isn't appointed he has to move on and work as a head coach somewhere. You need experience in different environments otherwise he will just become stale. Never trust people that stay with the same company for 10 years plus. :wink:

[jeffers]

I cannae understand someone taking on a coaching job at Hibs, and it being their first coaching job, and before they’ve even finished the training they’re thinking about having to move on.

He’s not being held back here, he’s learning, he’s going through his coaching badges, and he’s getting opportunities to take the first team when we don’t have a manager in place.

Like I’ve said previously though, if he gets the job (and I think he probably is going to get it) he’ll get my 100% support. In my opinion, I t’s not disrespectful or anti-SDG to think that he’s not the right choice for the job just now.

The fact he’s applied for the job he clearly believes he’s ready to step up to being a manager. He could look at Naismith in a very similar position to him and believe he’s just as capable, with the same coaching badges, so from that point of view I’d absolutely understand why he’d look to move on if we appoint someone else.

I don’t think anyone saying they don’t believe he’s ready is being disrespectful, though some comments I’ve read have been imo. I’ve been behind the idea of him getting it for a while now, but even wanting that I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have some concerns.

[Since452]

Every single manager/coach is a risk however it’s how the club manage that risk that’s important. Two of our last three managers have been rookies with little or no managerial experience so it’s fair to say they’ve not managed that risk very well.

It’s not about giving a manager or coach a chance it’s a case of Groundhog Day with another rookie.

This is it. Our two previous rookie managers have led us to the bottom six. Our last experienced manager took us in to Europe and finished 5 points off 3rd and got us some big game wins and he wasn't even that good. It's easy to see why people are concerned about another rookie. I'd be amazed if everyone wasn't 100% behind David Gray if and when he's appointed though.

[Mcbizz1998]

Really wish Hibs would hurry up and announce it so Sir David Gray can get on with the job of shutting a lot of people on here up.

[bingo70]

The fact he’s applied for the job he clearly believes he’s ready to step up to being a manager. He could look at Naismith in a very similar position to him and believe he’s just as capable, with the same coaching badges, so from that point of view I’d absolutely understand why he’d look to move on if we appoint someone else.

I don’t think anyone saying they don’t believe he’s ready is being disrespectful, though some comments I’ve read have been imo. I’ve been behind the idea of him getting it for a while now, but even wanting that I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have some concerns.

Naismith managed the Hearts B team for a year which would have been a huge help to his development as a coach. I don’t think he even did a great job with that B team but it was an opportunity for him to make mistakes out of the public eye.

[jeffers]

Naismith managed the Hearts B team for a year which would have been a huge help to his development as a coach. I don’t think he even did a great job with that B team but it was an opportunity for him to make mistakes out of the public eye.

True but then he didn’t have experience, albeit of only a dozen or so games, of managing their first team. As I said SDG clearly feels he’s ready, so I can absolutely understand him wanting to move on to manage in his own right rather than continue as a coach with us.

[Lago]

Really wish Hibs would hurry up and announce it so Sir David Gray can get on with the job of shutting a lot of people on here up.
Shutting people up is not what appointing Hibs next manager should be about.

[K-Zazu]

Naismith managed the Hearts B team for a year which would have been a huge help to his development as a coach. I don’t think he even did a great job with that B team but it was an opportunity for him to make mistakes out of the public eye.

Naismith also coached for Scotland I think? Played for Scotland, Huns and spent a few years in the Premier League.

[Not In The Know]

Id be happy if it was SDG.

Main reason being it would be Dempster's choice, as thats why she gave him the mega long contract all those years ago, with him being groomed for the big job. She was a good judge of a manager.

[Not In The Know]

Naismith managed the Hearts B team for a year which would have been a huge help to his development as a coach. I don’t think he even did a great job with that B team but it was an opportunity for him to make mistakes out of the public eye.


Once Shankland goes Naismith will be left exposed for the average coach that he is.


Saying that all you need to be is average in this league, something our last three managers have struggled with!

[Donegal Hibby]

Your question would indicate that you, hand on heart , think that 100% David Gray will be successful! Yes/no?

No I don't know how he'll turn out though before he's even got the job their are some that have already called him out as being bad appointment or written him off which we don't know either .

The reaction to Gray getting the job has been abit OTT imo .

[CapitalGreen]

True but then he didn’t have experience, albeit of only a dozen or so games, of managing their first team. As I said SDG clearly feels he’s ready, so I can absolutely understand him wanting to move on to manage in his own right rather than continue as a coach with us.

Naismith managed Hearts first team for consecutive 7 league games before being given the permanent job.

[Donegal Hibby]

Every single manager/coach is a risk however it’s how the club manage that risk that’s important. Two of our last three managers have been rookies with little or no managerial experience so it’s fair to say they’ve not managed that risk very well.

It’s not about giving a manager or coach a chance it’s a case of Groundhog Day with another rookie.

This one for what you call a rookie Aldo is totally different. In he's seen past mistakes of the previous two rookies , he knows the club probably better than anyone which he's probably passionate about .

It is a risk as anyone else would have been too though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Can't be Murray as the Raith Rovers CEO says there's been no contact with Hibs.

https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/football/next-hibernian-manager-raith-rovers-ceo-andrew-barrowman-answers-ian-murray-speculation-4654021

[Brightside]

Really wish Hibs would hurry up and announce it so Sir David Gray can get on with the job of shutting a lot of people on here up.

Does he have a log in?

[Brightside]

Naismith managed the Hearts B team for a year which would have been a huge help to his development as a coach. I don’t think he even did a great job with that B team but it was an opportunity for him to make mistakes out of the public eye.

Naismith has had a successful season despite many people in football thinking he's an awful coach. Plenty that watched him coach youth teams and B teams were shocked by his style.

[Mcbizz1998]

Shutting people up is not what appointing Hibs next manager should be about.

yeah, that’s obviously not what the club will be considering 😂

I, on the other hand, can make it about whatever I like!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Really wish Hibs would hurry up and announce it so Sir David Gray can get on with the job of shutting a lot of people on here up.

Hopefully he does come in and do just that.

That wouldn’t make any of the concerns people have at this point in time less valid though. It’s a huge gamble and the fact is, we wouldn’t be going near him if he wasn’t already at the club. Just being at the club already shouldn’t be enough to get you the job.

[Aldo]

This one for what you call a rookie Aldo is totally different. In he's seen past mistakes of the previous two rookies , he knows the club probably better than anyone which he's probably passionate about .

It is a risk as anyone else would have been too though.

But it’s not though. Sentiment aside would he even be considered if he wasnt already at Hibs? I don’t think so.

As for a risk, I see this as a bigger risk appointing from within.

If he gets the gig he’ll get my 100% backing but I think we really should have gone for a bit more experience to steady the ship sort to speak.

Hopefully we will find out soon enough.

[thebausburst]

Can't be Murray as the Raith Rovers CEO says there's been no contact with Hibs.

https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/football/next-hibernian-manager-raith-rovers-ceo-andrew-barrowman-answers-ian-murray-speculation-4654021

Have Hibs actually “interviewed” anybody, really can’t understand the big delay as it’s clearly a complete done deal and has been for a couple of weeks.

[Murphys Touch]

34 sleeps to our first competitive match!!!

[tonyrougier123]

34 sleeps to our first competitive match!!!

You could put the kit man in charge for that.

[basehibby]

Thing with SDG, is that if it goes wrong (and obviously I hope it goes very well) when we look back at the decision to hire him it will look mental, like an obviously bad decision on paper.

I don't agree appointing DG looks like a bad decision on paper, in retrospect or otherwise.
If the promotion from within option is ever worth a go then, as far as DG is concerned, now is probably the time to give it a try.
There are various pros and cons to consider - he obviously ticks a lot of boxes in terms of knowing the squad, club and league inside out. He also seems to have a great rep within the game as a promising coach.
Against that are various inponderables that we will never know until he has a go at it - ability to spot the right kind of player and build a team; inspirational qualities; tactical nous; playing style.
Gray himself is confident he can do the job and make a good fist of it - if he's able to convince McKay et Al of the same then bring it on!

[Donegal Hibby]

Have Hibs actually “interviewed” anybody, really can’t understand the big delay as it’s clearly a complete done deal and has been for a couple of weeks.

I don't know what's going on though would imagine we have interviewed 4 or 5 (including Gray) for the Job and the decision has now been made . I'm guessing we will maybe hear today or tomorrow hopefully who the new gaffer is .

[Sioux]

I don't know what's going on though would imagine we have interviewed 4 or 5 (including Gray) for the Job and the decision has now been made . I'm guessing we will maybe hear today or tomorrow hopefully who the new gaffer is .

Just stop making stuff up

[bingo70]

I’m listening to Simon Jordan’s audiobook just now (I know I know, I have to admit I quite like the guy though and agree with a lot he says in interviews and on the radio), anyway, the chapter I’ve just finished he speaks about the dangers of promoting a manager from within as it doesn’t work. The experience he speaks about relates to Steve Kember when he eventually gave in and appointed him despite overlooking him previously for jobs.

I know that no two scenarios are the same however the comparables seem relevant to the situation we are in just now. Underperforming players were desperate for Kembar to get the job and he was a respected coach who had seen all that had gone wrong before him. Unfortunately it was a completely different job being assistant or third in command when you’ve got to deliver the bad news to people and keep them happy than it is to be their shoulder to cry on or be their confidant.

The timing of me listening to that paragraph wasn’t great for me as I’m trying to convince myself SDG is the right person, I’m just not sure he is.

I know there’s examples of people being promoted from within to becoming good managers but I’d guess the times it never worked out probably far outweigh them.

[Donegal Hibby]

But it’s not though. Sentiment aside would he even be considered if he wasnt already at Hibs? I don’t think so.

As for a risk, I see this as a bigger risk appointing from within.

If he gets the gig he’ll get my 100% backing but I think we really should have gone for a bit more experience to steady the ship sort to speak.

Hopefully we will find out soon enough.

Honestly I do think it is a different situation to both Monty and Maloney .

Would he even be considered by Hibs if he wasn't already at Hibs ?. I suppose that would depend how he was doing at another club really, he seems to be highly thought of as a coach amongst both players and staff and that's probably a big advantage he as over other candidates in he knows the club so well too.

Which is something he has over our previous two rookie managers , he's also played in the league and been a captain which would suggest he has leadership qualities , only Maloney has played in the league and i don't know if either were captains at there clubs.

I understand were folk are coming from with the experience bit though Gray might turn out to be a good appointment just the way Mcinnes was at St Johnstone when they took a chance on him .

Hopefully we will hear something soon .

[TrinityHFC]

I’m listening to Simon Jordan’s audiobook just now (I know I know, I have to admit I quite like the guy though and agree with a lot he says in interviews and on the radio), anyway, the chapter I’ve just finished he speaks about the dangers of promoting a manager from within as it doesn’t work. The experience he speaks about relates to Steve Kember when he eventually gave in and appointed him despite overlooking him previously for jobs.

I know that no two scenarios are the same however the comparables seem relevant to the situation we are in just now. Underperforming players were desperate for Kembar to get the job and he was a respected coach who had seen all that had gone wrong before him. Unfortunately it was a completely different job being assistant or third in command when you’ve got to deliver the bad news to people and keep them happy than it is to be their shoulder to cry on or be their confidant.

The timing of me listening to that paragraph wasn’t great for me as I’m trying to convince myself SDG is the right person, I’m just not sure he is.

I know there’s examples of people being promoted from within to becoming good managers but I’d guess the times it never worked out probably far outweigh them.

Every situation and every person is different. Trouble is there’s no way of knowing with any appointment whether it will work or not. Each one is done with the right intentions at the time.

[Aldo]

Honestly I do think it is a different situation to both Monty and Maloney .

Would he even be considered by Hibs if he wasn't already at Hibs ?. I suppose that would depend how he was doing at another club really, he seems to be highly thought of as a coach amongst both players and staff and that's probably a big advantage he as over other candidates in he knows the club so well too.

Which is something he has over our previous two rookie managers , he's also played in the league and been a captain which would suggest he has leadership qualities , only Maloney has played in the league and i don't know if either were captains at there clubs.

I understand were folk are coming from with the experience bit though Gray might turn out to be a good appointment too just the way Mcinnes was at St Johnstone when they took a chance on him .

Hopefully we will hear something soon .

Gray is even less experienced than them both with Monty having some managerial experience and Maloney assistant manager with the Belgian National Team. Maloney played in the National Team and in the EPL with Villa and Wigan (beating city in the FA Cup)

I think someone else posted that the relative inexperience of Monty and Maloney had us finishing bottom 6 yet LJ had us Top 6 and in Europe.

You are using other teams as a yardstick which doesn’t bother or interest me. Different teams different expectations. I care about Hibs and getting it right which we haven’t for quite a while now.

This is the reason I would prefer a more experienced coach/manager and yes there is still a risk there.

If SDG gets the gig he’ll get my full support I just hope it works out.

[GloryGlory]

Just stop making stuff up

You never know.

Maybe tonight's the night! :greengrin

[matty_f]

I don't agree appointing DG looks like a bad decision on paper, in retrospect or otherwise.
If the promotion from within option is ever worth a go then, as far as DG is concerned, now is probably the time to give it a try.
There are various pros and cons to consider - he obviously ticks a lot of boxes in terms of knowing the squad, club and league inside out. He also seems to have a great rep within the game as a promising coach.
Against that are various inponderables that we will never know until he has a go at it - ability to spot the right kind of player and build a team; inspirational qualities; tactical nous; playing style.
Gray himself is confident he can do the job and make a good fist of it - if he's able to convince McKay et Al of the same then bring it on!

I think you can make a case for SDG getting it, and I have made that case myself - I love the idea of promoting from within and the fact that he's been getting groomed for the top job since he stopped playing, so I can see the argument.

The counter argument is far more compelling though, imho. I am quite happy to contradict myself and say that I've no problem with Hibs going for SDG personally and, again, I'm in SDG's corner with it - but an objective look would put far more reasons not to hire than to hire - the biggest caveat to that, of course, is that the club know exactly what they're getting with him, which is a significant factor.

[Caversham Green]

I’m listening to Simon Jordan’s audiobook just now (I know I know, I have to admit I quite like the guy though and agree with a lot he says in interviews and on the radio), anyway, the chapter I’ve just finished he speaks about the dangers of promoting a manager from within as it doesn’t work. The experience he speaks about relates to Steve Kember when he eventually gave in and appointed him despite overlooking him previously for jobs.

I know that no two scenarios are the same however the comparables seem relevant to the situation we are in just now. Underperforming players were desperate for Kembar to get the job and he was a respected coach who had seen all that had gone wrong before him. Unfortunately it was a completely different job being assistant or third in command when you’ve got to deliver the bad news to people and keep them happy than it is to be their shoulder to cry on or be their confidant.

The timing of me listening to that paragraph wasn’t great for me as I’m trying to convince myself SDG is the right person, I’m just not sure he is.

I know there’s examples of people being promoted from within to becoming good managers but I’d guess the times it never worked out probably far outweigh them.

On the other hand, John Madejski would cite the promotion of Brian McDermott from chief scout to manager as being an immediate and spectacular success in very similar circumstances.

[Donegal Hibby]

Gray is even less experienced than them both with Monty having some managerial experience and Maloney assistant manager with the Belgian National Team. Maloney played in the National Team and in the EPL with Villa and Wigan (beating city in the FA Cup)

I think someone else posted that the relative inexperience of Monty and Maloney had us finishing bottom 6 yet LJ had us Top 6 and in Europe.

You are using other teams as a yardstick which doesn’t bother or interest me. Different teams different expectations. I care about Hibs and getting it right which we haven’t for quite a while now.

This is the reason I would prefer a more experienced coach/manager and yes there is still a risk there.

If SDG gets the gig he’ll get my full support I just hope it works out.

I'm just glad we seem to have avoided Mcinnes, Robinson and Lennon tbh . Hopefully wither it's Gray or someone else we get the recruitment side of things right this time to give them every opportunity to succeed.

[Aldo]

I'm just glad we seem to have avoided Mcinnes, Robinson and Lennon tbh . Hopefully wither it's Gray or someone else we get the recruitment side of things right this time to give them every opportunity to succeed.

All I want is a coach/manager that can make us hard to beat, compete and have a plan A and B etc.

[CockneyRebel]

Just stop making stuff up


Why say he is making it up? He says he is guessing.

[04Sauzee]

Mcbookie have taken the betting down. Is that normal for midweek mid-afternoon?

[04Sauzee]

Why say he is making it up? He says he is guessing.

He's just making it up that the OP made stuff up.

[Donegal Hibby]

All I want is a coach/manager that can make us hard to beat, compete and have a plan A and B etc.

I think we all want that , for what it's worth I do think if Gray gets it we'd be more organised and harder to beat than we were under LJ or Monty .

It could be somebody totally different though . Do wish they'd get a move on and just announce who it is now .

[Aldo]

I think we all want that , for what it's worth I do think if Gray gets it we'd be more organised and harder to beat than we were under LJ or Monty .

It could be somebody totally different though . Do wish they'd get a move on and just announce who it is now .

You or I could have had the team more organised than Monty.

What will be will be.

A friend said what’s a couple of days…..[emoji41]

[tonyrougier123]

Mcbookie have taken the betting down. Is that normal for midweek mid-afternoon?

They often take the market down.

[04Sauzee]

They often take the market down.

Yip question was asked and reply below

https://i.ibb.co/T2Psq94/Screenshot-20240605-130658.png (https://ibb.co/fFrsGjk)

[snedzuk]

You could put the kit man in charge for that.

Treating one of two trophies we stand a chance in as a joke worked well last season right enough.

[GloryGlory]

I'm just glad we seem to have avoided Mcinnes, Robinson and Lennon tbh . Hopefully wither it's Gray or someone else we get the recruitment side of things right this time to give them every opportunity to succeed.

Re recruitment, I'm hoping - possibly against reason - that this will improve markedly, as Mackay must be well aware of all our weaknesses, having had to set up a team in the SPFL to play against us and analysed us thoroughly.

[Unseen work]

Gray offered the job.

[HendoDelivered]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12815142/hibs-ready-manager-offer-david-gray-boss-malky-mackay/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1717590847-1

[Paulie Walnuts]

Gray offered the job.

Had heard that this morning but was still holding out hope it was incorrect.

Oh well. A huge gamble. Fingers crossed for him.

[CapitalGreen]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12815142/hibs-ready-manager-offer-david-gray-boss-malky-mackay/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1717590847-1

😮 I am shocked

[SteveHFC]

Good luck to SDG.

[Saint Hibee]

Gray offered the job.

Oh lord, can't say I'm very optimistic about this appointment, but I love the guy and will give him 100% of my support.

[Unseen work]

I’m delighted for Gray.

Can just imagine him on his holiday getting the phone call offering him the job. He’ll be absolutely over the moon and honoured.

Hopefully it’s a good thing.

[thebausburst]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12815142/hibs-ready-manager-offer-david-gray-boss-malky-mackay/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1717590847-1

What a hugely uninspiring choice, yet again, by Hibs. I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.

[Callum_62]

What a hugely uninspiring choice, yet again, by Hibs. I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.Only folk wi nae badges finish third

Let's hope thats us next season

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[sleeping giant]

Had heard that this morning but was still holding out hope it was incorrect.

Oh well. A huge gamble. Fingers crossed for him.

Massive gamble.

[cabbageandribs1875]

well i for one am totally shocked

shocked i say




:)

[we are hibs]

Love David Gray. An undoubted Hibs legend no matter what happens next. I didn't think he was the right guy at this moment in time to take the job but now he's got it I want him to succeed so much.

I just hope he makes the job his own and is ruthless in his decision making. And I hope the recruitment is revamped and he is given the right players and players of the required quality to get us challenging at the right end of the table. It'll be interesting to see what style of football we play under him.

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[SickBoy32]

I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.

A mechanism to allow Bournemouth to circumvent FFP rules, nothing more. Kensell is not to be trusted.

Very best of luck to SDG, he’s going to need it with the current squad !

[Gatecrasher]

I feel good about this, I feel SDG has a passion and ruthlessness about him that's been missing in the club recently. I'll back him.

[SickBoy32]

I feel good about this, I feel SDG has a passion and ruthlessness about him that's been missing in the club recently. I'll back him.

Agreed 👍

Hoping he makes some BIG changes to the squad ASAP

[Paul1642]

Assistant manger is going to be a more important appointment than usual.

[Gordy M]

I feel good about this, I feel SDG has a passion and ruthlessness about him that's been missing in the club recently. I'll back him.

Actually wasnt sure bout him getting it, but have definitely come around to him getting it. If he can instill a bit of steel into us that will be a start. We only lost 3 more games than killie last year who finished 4th.....Scottish football outwith the Glasgow 2 is fine margins. Im really hopefull we will challenge for 3rd this year.

[BILLYHIBS]

https://i.ibb.co/B611L4d/IMG-2510.png (https://ibb.co/yk330hG)

[Mikey_1875]

What a hugely uninspiring choice, yet again, by Hibs. I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.

Hopefully he goes on to prove that wrong but this isn’t what I had in mind either so far. Lets hope there are significant improvements in our player recruitment this summer. There was some cause for optimism in some of our January signings.

[04Sauzee]

David David Gray 🎶

[Eaststand]

I feel good about this, I feel SDG has a passion and ruthlessness about him that's been missing in the club recently. I'll back him.

Yep this says it for me too

GGTTH

[flash]

A mechanism to allow Bournemouth to circumvent FFP rules, nothing more. Kensell is not to be trusted.

Very best of luck to SDG, he’s going to need it with the current squad !

Take a day off ffs.

[NC1875]

Still can’t believe of all the coaches/managers worldwide the board come to the conclusion David Gray is the man to sort this shambles.

Seems to me they’ve learnt nothing.

Anyway, it is what it is. He can show no loyalty to anyone in that squad, be ruthless please. You’re going to have to be.

Good luck SDG.

[flash]

What a hugely uninspiring choice, yet again, by Hibs. I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.

Who says he can't take us to 3rd?

[Unseen work]

Still can’t believe of all the coaches/managers worldwide the board come to the conclusion David Gray is the man to sort this shambles.

Seems to me they’ve learnt nothing.

Anyway, it is what it is. He can show no loyalty to anyone in that squad, be ruthless please. You’re going to have to be.

Good luck SDG.

I’m done with being negative about it, I’ve probably bored people enough.

But now it’s SDG I’m all in and will be positive.

I’ll start by is this the board doing the opposite of what they’ve shown? Is this them thinking perhaps it’s time to stop trying to be innovative etc and almost a back to basics approach by appointing someone that loves Hibs and someone that ‘gets the club’

[eastmainsmsh]

Could be a good thing Time will tell Good luck David Gray

[Since452]

Davie Gray's green and white army.

All the best to him

[GloryGlory]

Since it is all but confirmed, even though the source is the Sun, best wishes to David Gray. I hope he gets proper support and the recruitment side finally address the obvious weaknesses in the team that have existed for some time.

[badabing67]

Would of preferred a more experienced manager at this time..... It is what it is..... Good luck to SDG, I am right behind him, and he needs to get time and patience from all of us... Now lets get down to work and BRING IT ON.


:flag::flag::flag:

[eastmainsmsh]

Eddie May for Assistant ?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I think Hibs showed balls in appointing Mackay and similarly, I think it would show steel baws in appointing SDG as well. And about time they showed their cojones as well.

[GreenCastle]

Assistants / coaches and recruitment crucial. Really hoping Daz McGregor is one of them - would be keen for Bartley too.

All the best to SDG.

If it all goes wrong we are coming for you Hibs board :)

[ChuckNor]

A really solid appointment. A man who knows the club, loves the club and is very highly regarded. There has been some negativity around him getting the job, I hope you all stop now and back the man. He might not be as exciting an appointment as you would have liked but he will be the man who delivers us actual results rather than inconsistency and talk of “flair football”.

Safe pair of hands. Now for an assistant manager. Marvin Bartley is believed to be interested and he was an excellent assistant at Livingston.

[davhibby]

Assistant will be an interesting one. That’s the partnership that will determine how this ends up.

Given the lack of decent names that have come up I’m happier with Gray than pretty much any of the others that have been tipped. If he can get off to a decent start then there will be a big lift to the atmosphere around the club

[badabing67]

Assistants / coaches and recruitment crucial.

All the best to SDG.

If it all goes wrong we are coming for you Hibs board :)


It ain't gonna go wrong, this will just take time...

[Alex Trager]

A really solid appointment. A man who knows the club, loves the club and is very highly regarded. There has been some negativity around him getting the job, I hope you all stop now and back the man. He might not be as exciting an appointment as you would have liked but he will be the man who delivers us actual results rather than inconsistency and talk of “flair football”.

Safe pair of hands. Now for an assistant manager. Marvin Bartley is believed to be interested and he was an excellent assistant at Livingston.

Absolutely nothing to suggest this is a solid appointment. In fact, everything points to it being the EXACT opposite.

Here’s hoping he does the job well, but sadly, I reckon he’ll be yet another manager we burn through under these incompetents.

[Donegal Hibby]

I feel good about this, I feel SDG has a passion and ruthlessness about him that's been missing in the club recently. I'll back him.

Same here .

Davie Grays green and white army :flag:

[Since452]

Really hope Hibs give SDG all the tools he needs to succeed. Get the recruitment right and he has a real chance.

[MrRobot]

What a hugely uninspiring choice, yet again, by Hibs. I thought we had significant investment and were going for next level / 3rd blah blah, what a load of rubbish that’s proving to be.

if it’s true, want to maybe just give him a chance instead of being miserable?

[The Modfather]

Feels like we backed ourselves into a corner. Sounds like we didn’t want to pay compensation, too much of a basket case of a club for proven managers like Mcinness to be interested and have decided upon someone already at the club.

I’m not optimistic how this will turn out or that he will see the season out. Time to let him do the job and judge him on merit though.

[Springbank]

Eddie May for Assistant ?

Eddie May for assistant...guarantees relegation

We need a good, experienced assistant as SDG has a horrendous job on his hands

I heard he'd enquired about John Doolan and that would be more like it

I do not underestimate the scale of the task the manager faces - I hope the board don't either

Safe wee inhouse choices like Eddie May would take us in ever decreasing circles, down the drain

[Jim44]

I wonder if he’ll be offered a season long contract with further options for both parties down the line. If unsuccessful he could be released at little or no financial expense, although another short spelled manager/head coach would further increase the collateral damage the club has suffered over the years with a shocking run of managerial appointments.

[GreenGray]

Eddie May for assistant...guarantees relegation

We need a good, experienced assistant as SDG has a horrendous job on his hands

I heard he'd enquired about John Doolan and that would be more like it

I do not underestimate the scale of the task the manager faces - I hope the board don't either

Safe wee inhouse choices like Eddie May would take us in ever decreasing circles, down the drain

Guarantees relegation? Steady.


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[Wilson]

Would of preferred a more experienced manager at this time..... It is what it is..... Good luck to SDG, I am right behind him, and he needs to get time and patience from all of us... Now lets get down to work and BRING IT ON.


:flag::flag::flag:

I've never wanted McInnes, and it is probably a sign of how badly we've been doing, but I'd have taken McInnes! Other than that I thought Robinson as one of these guys that is irritating as an opposition manager, but you can get behind him if he is your guy. There is personality and energy there. Both experienced in the league we are operating in and that would have been enough for me this time.

When they were ruled out early I was at a loss where to look. I guess I'm done with outsiders taking too long to get Scottish football. To get hibs. Outsiders trying to force a philosophy on a league that won't wear it.

I guess that is it above all. Intimate knowledge of playing this league. Gets what it means to be hibs. Appointing someone with those attributes is the one thing we haven't tried in a while

So, if you can't get that in the form of games managed, by the likes of McInnes and Robinson, then who do you turn to?

I think Gray is a brave choice. You are backing the man. Backing a legend.

I have no clue how this will go. Just a feeling that now could be the right time.

[Since452]

I'm letting my heart rule my head here but i'm actually quite exited by it now. I was dead against it for a few reasons but now it's confirmed (or all but confirmed) i really think it will help unite everyone and could work. Really hope he gets off to a flyer in the League Cup and builds some momentum.

[Iain G]

Assistants / coaches and recruitment crucial. Really hoping Daz McGregor is one of them - would be keen for Bartley too.

All the best to SDG.

If it all goes wrong we are coming for you Hibs board :)

McGregor would be even more a risk than Gray! May as well get Chris Dagnell in as well! If it's Gray he needs an experienced few heads in his team, not a bunch of rookies or will be gone before September is out

[Callum_62]

It is a brave choice by Malky

If we are pumped out the LC and lose the first few league games it will be Malky getting the flak not SDG

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[Donegal Hibby]

McGregor would be even more a risk than Gray! May as well get Chris Dagnell in as well! If it's Gray he needs an experienced few heads in his team, not a bunch of rookies or will be gone before September is out

I think Gray will know this and only a guess here though wouldn't be surprised to see us go for somebody like John Doolan who's been an assistant before that Gray knows .

[He's here!]

Happy enough with that. Deserves a chance to show what he can do.

We've had a trio of largely rubbish appointments from outwith the club so it's hard to see Gray, who knows the club probably better than anyone, doing a worse job. Unless they'd gone all out for McInnes I wouldn't have trusted the club to appoint anyone else decent.

All the best to him.

[Broken Gnome]

First man ever to have the chance to captain and manage Hibs to Scottish Cup victories?

Pat Stanton the only other to be in that position, if including the League Cup?

[eastmainsmsh]

Eddie May for assistant...guarantees relegation

We need a good, experienced assistant as SDG has a horrendous job on his hands

I heard he'd enquired about John Doolan and that would be more like it

I do not underestimate the scale of the task the manager faces - I hope the board don't either

Safe wee inhouse choices like Eddie May would take us in ever decreasing circles, down the drain

Doolan would Be a good choice but would he leave Accrington Stanley ?

[NC1875]

I think Gray will know this and only a guess here though wouldn't be surprised to see us go for somebody like John Doolan who's been an assistant before that Gray knows .

John Doolans not leaving a managers job to come and be David Grays assistant.

[Heisenberg]

I’d have Bartley in as part of it if he was interested. Got loads of credit for the work he did at Livi, defensively especially.

[GreenCastle]

McGregor would be even more a risk than Gray! May as well get Chris Dagnell in as well! If it's Gray he needs an experienced few heads in his team, not a bunch of rookies or will be gone before September is out

Suggested as soon as Monty sacked we should go for SDG and Doolan or even Stubbs.

[Hibs90]

Lets just bare in mind.

If it doesn't work out, the blame should be squarely lying at the door of Mackay and the board.

[jeffers]

John Doolans not leaving a managers job to come and be David Grays assistant.

Won’t he ?

[Donegal Hibby]

John Doolans not leaving a managers job to come and be David Grays assistant.

I'm not to sure about that tbh . Its one I wouldn't rule out just yet .

[NC1875]

Won’t he ?

I don’t see it no. Hopefully he does as he’s about as good as we’ll get for the position and would make me a bit more confident with Gray having him alongside him.

Something you’ve heard ?

[bingo70]

I’d have Bartley in as part of it if he was interested. Got loads of credit for the work he did at Livi, defensively especially.

I’m told from a former player Bartley wasn’t as popular as people might think he was.

He’s not someone I’m desperate to have involved.

[Paulie Walnuts]

John Doolans not leaving a managers job to come and be David Grays assistant.

Pretty much my thoughts.

No inside knowledge or that, but I’d be very surprised if he did.

[Since452]

I’d have Bartley in as part of it if he was interested. Got loads of credit for the work he did at Livi, defensively especially.

Wonder if Block 7 would make a banner :greengrin

[davhibby]

If Doolan was the assistant I’d be very happy with that. I’m the same though that it would be a bit of a surprising decision from him to leave a managers role for it

[Mrimbetween]

Well lets get right behind SDG i say onwards and upwards

[1875er]

Would not be surprised to see Liam Craig back at the club in some role, very close to SDG.

[Unseen work]

Would not be surprised to see Liam Craig back at the club in some role, very close to SDG.

Wouldn’t mind it.

Won’t the Reserve league with Queens Park, been coaching for a good few years now, knows the club and is close to SDG.

[McGruber]

"Awright Malky",
"Awright Malcolm"
"Gee yi £300K a year big man, come in find us a gaffer"
"To me... tidy... there he's there"
"Ah cheers big man, never seen him"
"Nae bother, text you later"
.."DON'T"

[Lago]

Buckle up folks as we're in for a rocky ride under yet another rookie manager.

[jeffers]

I don’t see it no. Hopefully he does as he’s about as good as we’ll get for the position and would make me a bit more confident with Gray having him alongside him.

Something you’ve heard ?

I believe he would come yes, up to Hibs to make it happen though.

[jeffers]

Would not be surprised to see Liam Craig back at the club in some role, very close to SDG.
:agree:

[Albert Kidd 86’]

27963

[JohnM1875]

I believe he would come yes, up to Hibs to make it happen though.

Hibs and paying compensation? Hmmm

[Lago]

I’m told from a former player Bartley wasn’t as popular as people might think he was.

He’s not someone I’m desperate to have involved.
Has a bit of an ego, not easy to deal with.

[TrinityHFC]

I believe he would come yes, up to Hibs to make it happen though.

He signed a new 3 year deal days ago.

[NC1875]

Hibs and paying compensation? Hmmm

Was my thinking as well. Wouldn’t pay compo for a manager so can’t see us doing it for an assistant. But who knows.

[AlbertK86]

if it’s true, want to maybe just give him a chance instead of being miserable?

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[Bobby's Cinema]

Doesn't fill me with confidence. But I do think Gray's management style - we have yet to see what that is - will be more doing the basics well and not trying to over complicate the game.

You can see from a short sample size that when guys like Maloney and NM leave that try to really change the style, the very next game back to basics the players are free'd up and we see immediate improvement.

Ultimately our recruitment is going to be absolutely vital. Big overhaul needed, and it needs to be guys coming in immediately to the starting line-up. We can't afford to be bringing in players that we very quickly discover aren't up to it.

[BILLYHIBS]

Good to see someone that ‘ gets us ‘ in the hot seat at long last no more dinosaur tactics formations and boring bs interviews

Hang on to your seats guys we are in for a bumpy ride

It ain’t going to be pretty

Tora! Tora ! Tora !

GGTTH

[Mcbizz1998]

A mechanism to allow Bournemouth to circumvent FFP rules, nothing more. Kensell is not to be trusted.

Very best of luck to SDG, he’s going to need it with the current squad !

Do us a favour and bore off.

[Donegal Hibby]

Was my thinking as well. Wouldn’t pay compo for a manager so can’t see us doing it for an assistant. But who knows.

Only guessing again though I would have thought the compensation for some of the managers mentioned on here might be considerably more than what we'd have to pay Accrington Stanley though.

[BILLYHIBS]

Only guessing again though I would have thought the compensation for some of the managers mentioned on here might be considerably more than what we'd have to pay Accrington Stanley though.

Thought Doolan had just signed a three year deal as Manager though ?

Might be wrong

[Donegal Hibby]

Thought Doolan had just signed a three year deal as Manager though ?

Might be wrong

Yes he did Billy though even with that I wouldn't have thought we'd have to pay a massive amount in compensation , I could be wrong though .

[Onion]

Well there it is, as inevitable as a last minute winner for the opposition :greengrin I don't support the decision, but will support SDG. He'll always be a legend and Hampden Hero.

Only this Hibs Board and Owner could make what should be an exciting and inspiring appointment feel like a cheap cop out.

[Scottie]

Gray offered the job.


https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12815142/hibs-ready-manager-offer-david-gray-boss-malky-mackay/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1717590847-1
Is this official I don't believe anything this rag reports on ?

[Hamish]

Is this official I don't believe anything this rag reports on ?

Aye some of us are old enough to remember Alan Kernaghan

[tamig]

It is a brave choice by Malky

If we are pumped out the LC and lose the first few league games it will be Malky getting the flak not SDG

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Lets be a bit more optimistic eh?

[Langlee Hibs]

Actually hoping it's true now.
I'm more enthused with this than I was about Maloney, Johnston or Montgomery.
SDG's Green and White Army!

[.Sean.]

Aye some of us are old enough to remember Alan Kernaghan
😂😂 Nevio Scala and Stuart Baxter were also linked with every Hibs job going for a while aswell

[oneone73]

Aye some of us are old enough to remember Alan Kernaghan

That was Gordon Parks of the Record.

[Callum_62]

Lets be a bit more optimistic eh?I (hope) that won't happen but my point is more I think the fans will naturally go for MM/anyone else bar David Gray

It's why I think it's a brave call by MM

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[badabing67]

McGregor would be even more a risk than Gray! May as well get Chris Dagnell in as well! If it's Gray he needs an experienced few heads in his team, not a bunch of rookies or will be gone before September is out


There is no reason why Daz couldn't just move in to the role SDG vacates. That would be the natural progression imo.

[Hamish]

That was Gordon Parks of the Record.

Knew it was one of the pair😀

[MWHIBBIES]

Buckle up folks as we're in for a rocky ride under yet another rookie manager.

Yeah, Gray would be the first rookie manager ever to do well. I just can't see it.

Honestly... Get a grip.

[J-C]

It's annoying to see so many still negative about this appointment, time to give it a rest and get behind the new head coach and whoever his assistants are.

[matty_f]

I wish SDG all the best if it is indeed him that gets the gig. As much as I think there's a strong case to say why it's the wrong appointment, I do also think despite that, he will do well. I have long advocated recruiting from within, when Gray was given the 4 year deal under Dempster, we knew then that it was to work towards this moment, and so it's fair that he gets a shot at it.

I do think that he's what the team needs at the moment. A leader at the club, someone the players respect, someone who knows the club and the expectations, and who understands the game here.

All the very best, SDG.

[eastmainsmsh]

Aye some of us are old enough to remember Alan Kernaghan

Think he was close at time done well with Clyde was it Mowbray that pipped Kernaghan ?

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Actually hoping it's true now.
I'm more enthused with this than I was about Maloney, Johnston or Montgomery.
SDG's Green and White Army!
WOW Langlee Hibs, your avatar jogged my memory of the WEEKENDER time, just watched the video again for the first time in years, good times those,(what I can remember of them!), thanks:wink::wink::wink::wink:

[bingo70]

It's annoying to see so many still negative about this appointment, time to give it a rest and get behind the new head coach and whoever his assistants are.

I think it’s normal for people to give their opinion and we shouldn’t all be sheep just towing the party line.

I’ve had a fair old moan about the appointment as I just don’t get it. He won’t have a bigger supporter than me when he gets the job though and I don’t just mean that cos I’m a fat *******.

There are positives to his appointment and when things settle down I’ll focus on them, for now though, I think the point of this place is to give your opinion on all things Hibs and having concerns or negative thoughts about this is understandable.

[Lago]

Yeah, Gray would be the first rookie manager ever to do well. I just can't see it.

Honestly... Get a grip.
So just out of interest what makes Gray a better prospect than Maloney or Montgomery, both considered rookies that should never have been appointed.

[Not In The Know]

If Doolan was the assistant I’d be very happy with that. I’m the same though that it would be a bit of a surprising decision from him to leave a managers role for it



If Doolan joins I’m putting serious cash on us winning the Scottish Cup!!

[The Tubs]

So just out of interest what makes Gray a better prospect than Maloney or Montgomery, both considered rookies that should never have been appointed.

He seems far more pragmatic than the two you mentioned. Also, when giving an interview, he seems to carry an air of violence, as if he's about to kick **** out the reporter, something you'd never learn at Largs. That'll do for me.

[1875M]

Meh. Interesting to see who his coaching team are. He needs people with experience who he can lean on, not rookies like McGregor and Bartley. I wish him the best of luck, he’ll need it.

[SeanWilson]

So just out of interest what makes Gray a better prospect than Maloney or Montgomery, both considered rookies that should never have been appointed.

There is absolutely no reasoned argument you can have. The suggestion that a set piece coach, who's been in and around the coaching staff of the most diabolical set of seasons we've had recently; might not be ready to step in the the head coach role of our club is met with 'you're being negative'. Oh, btw - just bring your raj mate the hibee Daz along and make him assistant. That'll be good - where's Marvin Bartley? **** it lets get the band back together.

This isn't a high school football team.

We have some of the most fickle fan base in football.

[MWHIBBIES]

So just out of interest what makes Gray a better prospect than Maloney or Montgomery, both considered rookies that should never have been appointed.

What makes him worse than Stubbs, Mowbray or Collins?

Maloney was a ridiculous appointment, no doubt. Gray can't be worse than him.

Gray will probably do fine. Folk pissing themselves about relegation are being ridiculous.

He knows the club, knows the league, and will be desperate to succeed.

[04Sauzee]

Meh. Interesting to see who his coaching team are. He needs people with experience who he can lean on, not rookies like McGregor and Bartley. I wish him the best of luck, he’ll need it.

Maybe he won't need much luck because he will be very good at what he does.

[Hibees1973]

Ahh well, if it's Gray, fair enough. Not really what I expected with the Black Knights on board, but not the first time we have been hoodwinked by our owner and COE.

When he was a player I always felt reassured when Gray led the team out at Tiny.

Just hope there is not too much sentiment in appointing his own staff and he gets full control in doing this. If McGregor gets the assistant job and he brings in Conrad Logan as the goalie coach, I will be worried.

After what he has done as a player I expect he will get more time/room than the previous incumbents. But only up to a point.

[Ricky Bobby]

When any of the players are asked who they want for Manager, they all say SDG.
That's enough reason for me not to give him the job.
I wouldn't trust this group of wage thieves in the slightest.

[04Sauzee]

When any of the players are asked who they want for Manager, they all say SDG.
That's enough reason for me not to give him the job.
I wouldn't trust this group of wage thieves in the slightest.
What players that are contracted to the club said they 'want' SDG as manager?

[MWHIBBIES]

When any of the players are asked who they want for Manager, they all say SDG.
That's enough reason for me not to give him the job.
I wouldn't trust this group of wage thieves in the slightest.

How exactly are they wage thieves?