Managerial Sack Race

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Alexander beats off the competition as he leaves Motherwell

Hardly a huge surprise. That result in Europe was a shocker

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Boom!

“Surprise - Not a surprise” as one of the dudes on entertainment in Kos said.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm not surprised - I think they were only a couple of points better off than us since the start of 2022 they were very fortunate to qualify for Europe.

Losing to an Irish side was always likely to be the final straw.

[SChibs]

Can't see past Callum Davidson next. I think he would have been sacked last season if it wasn't for his cup double the season before

[neil7908]

Can't see past Callum Davidson next. I think he would have been sacked last season if it wasn't for his cup double the season before

Agreed. Tomorrow is a test for me - we really need to win this one as I can only see St Johnstone battling relegation this year.

[easty]

Can't see past Callum Davidson next. I think he would have been sacked last season if it wasn't for his cup double the season before

I’ve taken them to finish bottom 2 this season. On paper they’re a poor side.

I wasn’t a huge fan of Rooney, McCart or Clark to be honest, but losing all of them will definitely weaken them at the back.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Robinson or Davidson next

Tomorrow is massive. Livi away sandwiched in between hearts and huns at home so we need to get 3 points on the board tomorrow.

[allezsauzee]

Can't see past Callum Davidson next. I think he would have been sacked last season if it wasn't for his cup double the season before

I think St Johnstone will be boosted by Drey Wright finding some confidence & consistency and Jamie Murphy hardly missing a game through injury. You just know that those two and Melker Hallberg will have blinders tomorrow!

[allezsauzee]

Can't see past Callum Davidson next. I think he would have been sacked last season if it wasn't for his cup double the season before

I think St Johnstone will be boosted by Drey Wright finding some confidence & consistency and Jamie Murphy hardly missing a game through injury. You just know that those two and Melker Hallberg will play blinders tomorrow!

[Sir David Gray]

I think St Johnstone will be boosted by Drey Wright finding some confidence & consistency and Jamie Murphy hardly missing a game through injury. You just know that those two and Melker Hallberg will play blinders tomorrow!

Just as well Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon will both be out tomorrow!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Ryan McGowan as well. It's like they've built a team specifically for tomorrow

[stoneyburn hibs]

Nothing against Davidson, he's a likable guy.
Hope we shorten his odds dramatically tomorrow with a good pumping of the Saints.

[chrisski33]

Think Johnson might be under severe pressure by September if things start bad. Think Davidson may prove doubters wrong at st.j.

[hibsfan7]

Let us hope that neilson is next a lot of hearts fans have never forgiven him for hibs winning the scottish cup

[ancient hibee]

Let us hope that neilson is next a lot of hearts fans have never forgiven him for hibs winning the scottish cup
He's been given a new contract today.

[aberhibsfc]

Alexander beats off the competition as he leaves Motherwell

Hardly a huge surprise. That result in Europe was a shocker

Sounds like the Roy Aitken Newcastle FC story.

[aberhibsfc]

I think St Johnstone will be boosted by Drey Wright finding some confidence & consistency and Jamie Murphy hardly missing a game through injury. You just know that those two and Melker Hallberg will have blinders tomorrow!

Chuck Wotherspoon and Booth into that mix too.

[Silky]

Alexander beats off the competition as he leaves Motherwell


I never knew he was like that! Probably hoped he'd never get as far as the sack!!

[hibees 7062]

Goodwin

[He's here!]

Think Johnson might be under severe pressure by September if things start bad. Think Davidson may prove doubters wrong at st.j.

Yep, I'm far from confident for Hibs today. A poor result followed by defeat in the derby and Johnson will be the front runner in the sack race.

[J-C]

Yep, I'm far from confident for Hibs today. A poor result followed by defeat in the derby and Johnson will be the front runner in the sack race.

That's the spirit. 🙄

[WhileTheChief..]

Yep, I'm far from confident for Hibs today. A poor result followed by defeat in the derby and Johnson will be the front runner in the sack race.

Thump St J today and sneak a couple of wins against Hearts and Rangers. That should see him ok for a while.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yep, I'm far from confident for Hibs today. A poor result followed by defeat in the derby and Johnson will be the front runner in the sack race.

You are trying to pass this off as some kind of insight but you've basically said "if a manager loses matches, he'll probably get sacked". Job on sportsound there if you want it.

[hibbyfraelibby]

He's been given a new contract today.
His fate is sealed...

[LewysGot2]

C Davidson must be new favourite

[Ozyhibby]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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[Ryan91]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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Christ, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

Empty the manager just as soon as he's in the door. Unreal.

[Davy Mac]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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I have to say, i haven't heard anything from LJ that convinces me has a structured plan. Early days but he still needs to do a bit of a selling job to the fans in my opinion.

[Golden Bear]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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There's loads of clowns going around at present.

[J-C]

Christ, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

Empty the manager just as soon as he's in the door. Unreal.


TBF if he thinks the midfield that got 2 previous managers sacked is the answer, then it doesn't bode well for him.

[DaveF]

Christ, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

Empty the manager just as soon as he's in the door. Unreal.

Many more performances like this and he will get himself the sack. What a dire, lacklustre, insipid display - in a derby that is supposed to mean something. Hearts have absolutely coasted this game.

[Mutu]

People bumping this thread before the game is even over.

Away and find a cave to live in.

[SHODAN]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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Update please.

[HoboHarry]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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Yawn.

[worcesterhibby]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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I hope you feel like a fool now. This team needs support, they keep going till the end...you need to find a bit of back bone and do the same.

[Callum_62]

Get you money on Johnson. Still hasn’t brought in a centre mid. Clown.


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Clown indeed.

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[Since452]

Embarrassing folk saying Johnson. Did nobody see the absolute **** show he took over? Instant success or you're out it seems.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm willing to give LJ a few more games














:)

[Ozyhibby]

Update please.

Only thing Boyle’s goal changes is my mood for the day. That midfield is not good enough and if Johnson doesn’t see it, he won’t last long.


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[Ozyhibby]

What position does Kenneh play?

Clown indeed.

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Apologies, I actually think he looks decent. It’s the other two that are garbage.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Apologies, I actually think he looks decent. It’s the other two that are garbage.


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Didn't gogic solve all our midfield problems?

[eastmainsmsh]

Robinson or Neilson 😆

[Carheenlea]

There’s no doubt we are a long way off from firing on all cylinders. Boyle’s late equaliser will ensure that the performance won’t be as deeply scrutinised as it would have been done in defeat. Similar to last week at Perth pretty much - the late winner masking what wasn’t a great showing.

As the team gels and the manager finds his preferred starting 11 then I’m sure we will see improvement. We’ve picked up 4 points in two games, an away win against a team we have struggled against and an Edinburgh derby, despite not being by at our best.

There will be a feel good factor within the squad and fans after that last gasp equaliser and the foundations are there to have a good season. Looking forward to seeing it hopefully start to click in the coming weeks.

[Mark05]

At least give the manager a chance, but yes the midfield does need improving. I thought Henderson was poor today which surprised me as he has been one of our best players. We need a few games to gell then we can start asking questions

[SHODAN]

Steven Hammell appointed at Motherwell.

Wasn't too long ago that he ended up being the final straw for Collins, who resigned after Petrie wouldn't sanction a transfer for him after we took in millions from Murphy and Motherwell signed him instead.

[hibees 7062]

Goodwin or Neilson

[hibbyfraelibby]

Goodwin or Neilson

Neilson after a series of humpings in the UEFA Conference

[Hibiza]

Only thing Boyle’s goal changes is my mood for the day. That midfield is not good enough and if Johnson doesn’t see it, he won’t last long.


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The lack of at least one attacking midfielder coming in is very worrying , surely LJ and team can see that .

[brog]

The lack of at least one attacking midfielder coming in is very worrying , surely LJ and team can see that .

To stop you worrying I'll just remind you that McGeady, Henderson and Tavares are all attacking midfielders. And yes I know AM is currently injured.

[hibee-boys]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

[Since452]

I have to say, i haven't heard anything from LJ that convinces me has a structured plan. Early days but he still needs to do a bit of a selling job to the fans in my opinion.

Surprising you think that. His interviews after he was announced were very in depth about his plan.

[B.H.F.C]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

They’re at Tynecastle on Sunday as well so would expect more dropped points.

Expect AZ to turn things round tonight.

[hibees 7062]

Neilson after a series of humpings in the UEFA Conference

Or the next derby

[RyeSloan]

I have to say, i haven't heard anything from LJ that convinces me has a structured plan. Early days but he still needs to do a bit of a selling job to the fans in my opinion.

Yup he’s not got any plan and is just making it up as he goes along.

All the signings were by a committee as well. Hardly a seasoned League 1 journey man to be seen. Disgraceful really.

As for a ‘selling job’ - bang on. I mean he’s hardly had anything to say for himself since he arrived so don’t think he cares what the fans think.

Or something like that…


Back in the real world I’m thinking Goodwin might be under pressure very quickly if he goes on a mini run of one or two poor results but reckon Robinson will be the first to get his jotters.

[Northernhibee]

Jack Ross needs to get their league season going quickly. This could be a cricket score and honeymoon period well and truly over.

[LewysGot2]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

Tonight is horrendous.thats 4-0

Nice clobber though Jack

[Hibs90]

What odds can I get on Jack Ross?

[Ringothedog]

Tonight is horrendous.thats 4-0

Nice clobber though Jack

5-0

[Waxy]

Can any manager survive a 9-0 defeat?
Ross could get sacked in the morning.

[LewysGot2]

Can any manager survive a 9-0 defeat?
Ross could get sacked in the morning.

Dean Gibson apparently 👀

[brog]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

Some shout!

[WestCoastHibby]

DUFC going out isn’t a disaster for them but that scoreline!?
If they don’t improve second half he’ll get severe pressure.
He’s sartorially astute mind

[Iain G]

Sack Ross more like 😉

[heretoday]

Jack Ross.

[hibee-boys]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

I’m away to get a lottery ticket😎😂

[NC1875]

Wonder how all his pals in the media will defend that.

Utd fans will want him gone in the next few weeks.

My neighbour is a UTD season ticket holder and isn’t impressed 🤣

[MyJo]

Wonder how all his pals in the media will defend that.

Utd fans will want him gone in the next few weeks.

My neighbour is a UTD season ticket holder and isn’t impressed 🤣

I’m sure Michael Stewart will somehow connect this to Hibs owner/leadership

[worcesterhibby]

We did the right thing getting rid…we just took two goes to find the right replacement and unfortunately Maloney took us backwards. I can’t tell you how pleased I am that we have Lee Johnston

[Libby Hibby]

I’m sure Michael Stewart will somehow connect this to Hibs owner/leadership

‘If Ron Gordon didn’t sack him, he wouldn’t of been in the Utd dug out tonight’

[Libby Hibby]

Lee Johnson pre match interview, sticking up for us fans was class earlier

[Nicho87]

BBC Scotland tonight

Michael Stewart in the first half said it’s ‘fine margins’

Steven Thompson first question at half time, is the tie to over.

Then ten minutes later saying it’s embarrassing for United

What one is it?

Can’t stand the bbc - used to like mikey Stewart but going off him now, he clearly has an issue with hibs since we told Ross to do one.

Bbc overall, jambo - sevco love in

[Whacko]

UTD have enjoyed relative defensive stability over the past couple of years back in the SPL with an organised 5 man defence. Despite being toothless upfront and weak in midfield the 5 man defence kept them reasonably competitive. Jack Ross arrives, defence goes to a back 4 and it all starts to unravel - we are well shot of this tactical genius no doubt about it.

[FilipinoHibs]

‘If Ron Gordon didn’t sack him, he wouldn’t of been in the Utd dug out tonight’

That's Filipino logic. If you had not come to this country, I would not have driven into your car. Average IQ 15 points below the UK and learning deprivation. That's the Philippines not the Sportsound pundits.

[Dr What If?]

That's Filipino logic. If you had not come to this country, I would not have driven into your car. Average IQ 15 points below the UK and learning deprivation. That's the Philippines not the Sportsound pundits.
Have you been in a car accident that wasn't your fault? You could be entitled to compensation!

[poolman]

Yup he’s not got any plan and is just making it up as he goes along.

All the signings were by a committee as well. Hardly a seasoned League 1 journey man to be seen. Disgraceful really.

As for a ‘selling job’ - bang on. I mean he’s hardly had anything to say for himself since he arrived so don’t think he cares what the fans think.

Or something like that…


Back in the real world I’m thinking Goodwin might be under pressure very quickly if he goes on a mini run of one or two poor results but reckon Robinson will be the first to get his jotters.


Good post, unfortunately there's some real roasters in our support

[poolman]

BBC Scotland tonight

Michael Stewart in the first half said it’s ‘fine margins’

Steven Thompson first question at half time, is the tie to over.

Then ten minutes later saying it’s embarrassing for United

What one is it?

Can’t stand the bbc - used to like mikey Stewart but going off him now, he clearly has an issue with hibs since we told Ross to do one.

Bbc overall, jambo - sevco love in


Thomson is a boring amateur at presenting this dross

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dean Gibson apparently 👀

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[H18 SFR]

Dundee Utd getting a point at Tynecastle incoming.

[Tambo]

So something that crossed my mind last night and could it be deja vu for Robbie and the yams?

His last spell was gain promotion back to the top flight and then have a good season and finish 3rd.

The next season the fans starting to turn against him, lost a 2-0 lead and then the reply to us and then eventually was sacked.

A bad run in Europe, mixed in with a few defeats in the league before the return league game at tynie.

A long wait till January 2023 though.

[CapitalGreen]

So something that crossed my mind last night and could it be deja vu for Robbie and the yams?

His last spell was gain promotion back to the top flight and then have a good season and finish 3rd.

The next season the fans starting to turn against him, lost a 2-0 lead and then the reply to us and then eventually was sacked.

A bad run in Europe, mixed in with a few defeats in the league before the return league game at tynie.

A long wait till January 2023 though.

The 2-0 lead loss and money spinning replay was during their first season back in the top flight, the fans were turning on him before they’d even finished third. The biggest challenge he’ll face is managing 2 games per week. For the next 11 weeks they’ll be playing 20 games (assuming they progress in the LC) compared to our 10. That’s a lot of games and even the bigger teams with large squads struggle with the Thursday - Sunday schedule.

[Wilson]

Dundee Utd getting a point at Tynecastle incoming.

I wouldn't be surprised at a routine hearts win after United's 'exertions' in Europe. However, a point in reaction to a bad result seems strangely plausible. Here's hoping.

[Tambo]

The 2-0 lead loss and money spinning replay was during their first season back in the top flight, the fans were turning on him before they’d even finished third. The biggest challenge he’ll face is managing 2 games per week. For the next 11 weeks they’ll be playing 20 games (assuming they progress in the LC) compared to our 10. That’s a lot of games and even the bigger teams with large squads struggle with the Thursday - Sunday schedule.

So you're right after looking up, where does time go?

Anyway hopefully won't be long before the planes are flying over tyncastle again.

[HoboHarry]

So you're right after looking up, where does time go?

Anyway hopefully won't be long before the planes are flying over tyncastle again.
Who knows? - according to Sandy Denny anyway.....

[Jim44]

I wouldn't be surprised at a routine hearts win after United's 'exertions' in Europe. However, a point in reaction to a bad result seems strangely plausible. Here's hoping.

Jack Ross under the microscope on Talksport just now.

[Hibiza]

Thought Jacks apparel was rather poor last night. Esp playing in the Chic Euro scene. No white trainers , Abad vibe to the team.

[Alex Trager]

https://twitter.com/chrisfinn2703/status/1559150878107500548?s=21&t=-s57b0TwP2juzdswNMbhZQ

Apparently Tony Watt called Jack Ross ‘ASOS Ancelotti’ after the game yesterday which tickled me a great deal

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/chrisfinn2703/status/1559150878107500548?s=21&t=-s57b0TwP2juzdswNMbhZQ

Apparently Tony Watt called Jack Ross ‘ASOS Ancelotti’ after the game yesterday which tickled me a great deal

I’m sure it’s probably a piss take but would be funny if he actually did :greengrin

[I'm Spartacus]

https://twitter.com/chrisfinn2703/status/1559150878107500548?s=21&t=-s57b0TwP2juzdswNMbhZQ

Apparently Tony Watt called Jack Ross ‘ASOS Ancelotti’ after the game yesterday which tickled me a great deal

Hahaha that's a beauty :)

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/chrisfinn2703/status/1559150878107500548?s=21&t=-s57b0TwP2juzdswNMbhZQ

Apparently Tony Watt called Jack Ross ‘ASOS Ancelotti’ after the game yesterday which tickled me a great deal

That is pretty funny but Watt has been absolutley woeful so far this season. Should maybe keep his head down instead of making smart comments. Wouldnt be too happy if i were a United fan.

[Alfred E Newman]

That is pretty funny but Watt has been absolutley woeful so far this season. Should maybe keep his head down instead of making smart comments. Wouldnt be too happy if i were a United fan.

Tony Watt tends to come over as a bit of an arse to be fair.

[HoboHarry]

I've been away too long, I had to google what ASOS meant :greengrin

[Waxy]

I've been away too long, I had to google what ASOS meant :greengrin

Haha surely you never.
So what does it mean then?

[HoboHarry]

Haha surely you never.
So what does it mean then?
No idea what it means but it's a clothing brand no? I had no idea...

Edit - looked it up again and apparently means As Seen On Screen.....

[Smartie]

Haha surely you never.
So what does it mean then?

I’ve never been away and I had to google it to find out what he meant.

[Allant1981]

Robbie stockdale sacked as rochdale manager

[Billy Whizz]

Robbie stockdale sacked as rochdale manager

Not surprised, played 4 and lost 4. Mr Hartley isn’t setting the heather on fire either in League 2

[worcesterhibby]

Jack Ross's peg is getting shooglier! Is there still anyone on here who would prefer him to Lee Johnson?

[Cuikyhibs]

Jack Ross's peg is getting shooglier! Is there still anyone on here who would prefer him to Lee Johnson?

3 really bad results on the bounce, he needs to turn it round fast

[Auckland Hibs]

3 really bad results on the bounce, he needs to turn it round fast

He's been backed heavily by the board and needs to turn it around soon or he's likely going to be sacked. Their next three games are Celtic H, Livingston A and Motherwell A.

He could be gone by early September.

[Libby Hibby]

Jack Ross this, Jack Ross that

[Waxy]

Poor collective recent results for JR.
Dundee utd 0 Randoms utd umpteen

[Jim44]

Jack Ross's peg is getting shooglier! Is there still anyone on here who would prefer him to Lee Johnson?

Definitely not, but by the same token it doesn’t mean that LJ’s situation is completely plain sailing ( he has my full support, BTW) We’ve beaten a poor St Johnstone, lost to Livingston, who we would have hoped to have beaten, and got two very late goals to draw with Hearts and 9 man Rangers. Yes, we are all behind LJ, who is an improvement on Jack Ross, but the latter’s crisis, is not in any way a feather in LJ’s cap. Without these two late goals, we would be in 5th bottom position and we have it all to do to climb out of mediocrity.

[Nicho87]

No Martin Boyle for United to save his bacon time after time

[Pretty Boy]

Just read on Twitter the last 13 games managed by Ross in the League:

P - 13
W - 1
D - 2
L -10
GF - 7
GA -23
Points - 5

Sacked before Christmas.

[Paulie Walnuts]

14-1 agrregate score over the last 3 games.

Only scored 3 goals in 6 games this season, never scored more than one and not scored in half their games this season.

Dundee United fans better be ready to have all the joy sucked out of watching their team.

[He's here!]

Jack Ross's peg is getting shooglier! Is there still anyone on here who would prefer him to Lee Johnson?

Way too early to assume we've got the better boss. I really liked Ross and despite United's results after that impressive first leg European win I'm still not convinced we made the right call in sacking him. I actually don't get the animosity some seem to feel for him, tho I can't deny the cup final loss to St Johnstone still rankles.

Let's see where we and United are by the time the World Cup break comes around.

[Libby Hibby]

Definitely not, but by the same token it doesn’t mean that LJ’s situation is completely plain sailing ( he has my full support, BTW) We’ve beaten a poor St Johnstone, lost to Livingston, who we would have hoped to have beaten, and got two very late goals to draw with Hearts and 9 man Rangers. Yes, we are all behind LJ, who is an improvement on Jack Ross, but the latter’s crisis, is not in any way a feather in LJ’s cap. Without these two late goals, we would be in 5th bottom position and we have it all to do to climb out of mediocrity.

Sorry, is it not a 90 minute game? I hear you but I view it more that the team are not giving up in games. Which was all to apparent with the previous incumbent.

[Jim44]

Sorry, is it not a 90 minute game? I hear you but I view it more that the team are not giving up in games. Which was all to apparent with the previous incumbent.

Fair comment and good on the lads for hanging in there. But it could easily have been two defeats and a gloomier outlook for us. I’ve agreed that LJ must be seen as an improvement on JR but my point is that JR’s poor performance with D.Utd doesn’t enhance LJ’s situation in any way.

[heid the baw]

Just watched Jack Ross post match interview that he did for DUTV. He really comes across as if he doesn't want to be there. I reckon he'll be gone by the end of the month

[IberianHibernian]

Definitely not, but by the same token it doesn’t mean that LJ’s situation is completely plain sailing ( he has my full support, BTW) We’ve beaten a poor St Johnstone, lost to Livingston, who we would have hoped to have beaten, and got two very late goals to draw with Hearts and 9 man Rangers. Yes, we are all behind LJ, who is an improvement on Jack Ross, but the latter’s crisis, is not in any way a feather in LJ’s cap. Without these two late goals, we would be in 5th bottom position and we have it all to do to climb out of mediocrity.

Are we not 5th bottom now ? Even without the 2 late home goals we`d still be 5th bottom on goal difference . A few wins before the end of September and we`ll be up in top 6 but draws and losses will mean there could be some speculation about LJ after World Cup break - a low league position after League Cup failure is bound to cause some speculation .

[cameronw-hfc]

Are we not 5th bottom now ? Even without the 2 late home goals we`d still be 5th bottom on goal difference . A few wins before the end of September and we`ll be up in top 6 but draws and losses will mean there could be some speculation about LJ after World Cup break - a low league position after League Cup failure is bound to cause some speculation .


'5th bottom' is an unbelievably pessimistic way to describe the leagues position in a 12 team league. Astoundingly so. You could just as easy say after a rough start were mid table...

[SlickShoes]

League positions this early in the season are really meaningless unless we were expecting to be challenging for the title, for everyone else it's about playing well and building something. Dundee Utd look really poor and unable to score at the moment, but as we saw from Ross Co last year one good quarter of a season can change everything.

[matty_f]

'5th bottom' is an unbelievably pessimistic way to describe the leagues position in a 12 team league. Astoundingly so. You could just as easy say after a rough start were mid table...

:agree:

[B.H.F.C]

Good job Jack. Keep it up. Fantastic signings.

[IberianHibernian]

'5th bottom' is an unbelievably pessimistic way to describe the leagues position in a 12 team league. Astoundingly so. You could just as easy say after a rough start were mid table...I agree entirely . Far too early to say what will happen . Last season we could have finished 10th or could have been 4th ( there were 7 teams who were all equally bad ) . Our results in both cups probably meant we were the 4th best team ( or least bad of bottom 9 ) over the season in a supposedly terrible season for us despite a horrendous injury list especially after New Year . A slight improvement and less injuries could mean 4th , a meaningful improvement and fewer injuries could mean 3rd . Little or no improvement then anywhere between 4th and 10th again .

[eastterrace]

Good job Jack. Keep it up. Fantastic signings.
😂😂👍

[Alfred E Newman]

'5th bottom' is an unbelievably pessimistic way to describe the leagues position in a 12 team league. Astoundingly so. You could just as easy say after a rough start were mid table...

You could say we picked up a point today that most of our rivals won't get but the next couple of games are the type of games we have to be winning if we are to challenge at the top end of the league.

[Jones28]

5th bottom 😂😂

Not bad against a team that came 11th bottom last season.

[cameronw-hfc]

You could say we picked up a point today that most of our rivals won't get but the next couple of games are the type of games we have to be winning if we are to challenge at the top end of the league.


That's entirely true, I just think credit is due here as we all feared the worst with the first few games when the fixtures were released, and if you offered me a win, loss and 2 draws from Rangers, Hearts and two teams we have notoriously struggled against recently in Livi and St Johnstone Id have bitten your hand off.

[Iain G]

5th bottom 😂😂

Not bad against a team that came 11th bottom last season.

So did we finish above or below then on the Stranger Things upside down bottom up table? 🤣

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Just watched Jack Ross post match interview that he did for DUTV. He really comes across as if he doesn't want to be there. I reckon he'll be gone by the end of the month

Can't help but enjoy his current troubles.

[Michael]

Can't help but enjoy his current troubles.

Why? Did a decent job for us overall.

[phoenixfire]

Thought jack Ross conducted himself well even after he left hibs !didn't seem bitter or had anything bad to say about us ! Don't wish him any bad and or would gloat or enjoy the guy having a rough time which he probably is at the moment!

[Sgt. Hartman]

Thought jack Ross conducted himself well even after he left hibs !didn't seem bitter or had anything bad to say about us ! Don't wish him any bad and or would gloat or enjoy the guy having a rough time which he probably is at the moment!

He did comment on the Martin Boyle transfer situation which was pretty strange and out of place. Didn’t agree with a lot Maloney had to see during his tenure but he was 100% correct in calling out Jack Ross for commenting on that

[phoenixfire]

He did comment on the Martin Boyle transfer situation which was pretty strange and out of place. Didn’t agree with a lot Maloney had to see during his tenure but he was 100% correct in calling out Jack Ross for commenting on that

Yeah said he hoped hibs wouldn't stand in Boyle's way of a life changing move ( money wise I think) cause Boyle had worked so hard for it! Maybe he should have said nothing as he wasn't at hibs anymore though did hear Ross and boyle got on well ! Probably journalist asked Ross anyhow ! Don't see any bad in it to be honest with you as for Maloney total clueless clown !

[He's here!]

Thought jack Ross conducted himself well even after he left hibs !didn't seem bitter or had anything bad to say about us ! Don't wish him any bad and or would gloat or enjoy the guy having a rough time which he probably is at the moment!

Same here. He's a good bloke and and you can see he's feeling the strain. Looked unwell during his interview yesterday. I wonder if the Dundee job might have been a better fit for him, allowing him to rebuild from a less pressured base.

Some on here seem to have a really bitter dislike for him and are revelling in his current toils which I find unfathomable.
Overall he did a good job at Hibs and doesn't deserve Butcher/Calderwood type flak.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Same here. He's a good bloke and and you can see he's feeling the strain. Looked unwell during his interview yesterday. I wonder if the Dundee job might have been a better fit for him, allowing him to rebuild from a less pressured base.

Some on here seem to have a really bitter dislike for him and are revelling in his current toils which I find unfathomable.
Overall he did a good job at Hibs and doesn't deserve Butcher/Calderwood type flak.

He left plenty Hibs fans utterly fed up of watching their team and sucked every last bit of enjoyment out of it for a lot of us. From looking at the DU forums, they’re already feeling the same way and they’re also getting the regular horror shows to go along with it.

We’ve since had it rammed down our throats on here that we should be hoping he does a great job at Dundee United with folk actually getting raging if you don’t hope he does.

Someone posted it a lot when he was here or round about the time he left but it’s absolutely true - Jack Ross is bad for business.

I hope him and Dundee United have an utter disaster this season.

[He's here!]

He left plenty Hibs fans utterly fed up of watching their team and sucked every last bit of enjoyment out of it for a lot of us. From looking at the DU forums, they’re already feeling the same way and they’re also getting the regular horror shows to go along with it.

We’ve since had it rammed down our throats on here that we should be hoping he does a great job at Dundee United with folk actually getting raging if you don’t hope he does.

Someone posted it a lot when he was here or round about the time he left but it’s absolutely true - Jack Ross is bad for business.

I hope him and Dundee United have an utter disaster this season.

I won't be 'raging' if he doesn't do a good job at United but I see no reason to wish him ill. I think he gave the Hibs job his all and was rather harshly sacked after his first sustained run of bad results. Prior to that he had demonstrated an ability to arrest any slump in form very quickly.

In his relatively short time at ER he also took us to two cup finals, was a missed penalty away from another one and gave us our first third place finish in many years. He made a couple of excellent signings, breathed life into signings branded Heckingbottom duds and helped elevate Martin Boyle's game to an even higher level. Not at all shabby by the standards of a Hibs boss.

Sure the football could be frustrating and the cup final v St Johnstone plus the embarassing no-show v Hearts in the pre-covid derby at ER still rankle.

[heid the baw]

Same here. He's a good bloke and and you can see he's feeling the strain. Looked unwell during his interview yesterday. I wonder if the Dundee job might have been a better fit for him, allowing him to rebuild from a less pressured base.

Some on here seem to have a really bitter dislike for him and are revelling in his current toils which I find unfathomable.
Overall he did a good job at Hibs and doesn't deserve Butcher/Calderwood type flak.

I agree with this. The media fawning over Ross and their desperate wish to be proved right about what they view as the farcical way Hibs are run, just add more pressure to this appointment. They were all about how much stronger the league will be with Ross and McInnes back
I wish no ill will to Ross, but he looks like he's out of confidence and desperately unhappy with the Utd gig. He definitely should have taken a less pressured job

[Zambernardi1875]

He left plenty Hibs fans utterly fed up of watching their team and sucked every last bit of enjoyment out of it for a lot of us. From looking at the DU forums, they’re already feeling the same way and they’re also getting the regular horror shows to go along with it.

We’ve since had it rammed down our throats on here that we should be hoping he does a great job at Dundee United with folk actually getting raging if you don’t hope he does.

Someone posted it a lot when he was here or round about the time he left but it’s absolutely true - Jack Ross is bad for business.

I hope him and Dundee United have an utter disaster this season.

“Ron Gordon is a successful businessman and Jack Ross is bad for business”

As true then as it is now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

“Ron Gordon is a successful businessman and Jack Ross is bad for business”

As true then as it is now. 😉

:agree:

6 games in and they’ve already got fans wanting rid of him and bemoaning the absolutely pish style of football they’re playing and it’ll continue that way for his whole tenure at DU, of that there is no doubt.

He manages to get decent enough results but it’s at the expense of any style or enjoyment for the fans. Fan bases simply won’t accept that unless the results are obscenely good which they’re never going to be.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/badgermo75/status/1561092855782842368?s=21&t=TrZk8bO0YcrzSZJReANt4g

😂

[hibbyfraelibby]

Jack Ross will be spending lots of autumnal time in Dobbies very shortly...

[Carheenlea]

Neilson will be a couple of games away from being hounded. Even the most bitter and deranged Jambos must be embarrassed by his post match ramblings today.

Absolute melter.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Neilson will be a couple of games away from being hounded. Even the most bitter and deranged Jambos must be embarrassed by his post match ramblings today.

Absolute melter.

Did you see their starting line up? Fans were raging before a ball was kicked. If that's how he's going to manage Thurs/Sunday's then he'll be gone before Xmas

[jacomo]

He left plenty Hibs fans utterly fed up of watching their team and sucked every last bit of enjoyment out of it for a lot of us. From looking at the DU forums, they’re already feeling the same way and they’re also getting the regular horror shows to go along with it.

We’ve since had it rammed down our throats on here that we should be hoping he does a great job at Dundee United with folk actually getting raging if you don’t hope he does.

Someone posted it a lot when he was here or round about the time he left but it’s absolutely true - Jack Ross is bad for business.

I hope him and Dundee United have an utter disaster this season.


You’ve neatly encapsulated the weird, irrational dislike for him right here.

No one’s ramming anything down your throat - you just refuse to accept that the timing of his sacking was a mistake.

He deserved to lead his Hibs team out at Hampden again last December - if he’d lost that final (likely) and things hadn’t picked up then he would have gone.

Im certainly not blind to his faults as a manager but take no joy in seeing him struggle. He seems like a decent guy and overall did a decent job for us.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You’ve neatly encapsulated the weird, irrational dislike for him right here.

No one’s ramming anything down your throat - you just refuse to accept that the timing of his sacking was a mistake.

He deserved to lead his Hibs team out at Hampden again last December - if he’d lost that final (likely) and things hadn’t picked up then he would have gone.

Im certainly not blind to his faults as a manager but take no joy in seeing him struggle. He seems like a decent guy and overall did a decent job for us.

There’s nothing weird or irrational and I dont dislike him at all, I’ve never met him. His team was dreadful to watch imo and also in alot of others opinion. I was completely losing interest in watching us under him, as were others, so I’d say my feelings on him are actually quite rational. I didn’t enjoy watching my football team whilst he was manager so im hardly going to hold him in high regard from a football point of view, am I?

I said previously I hope he fails and that it’s because it makes the chances of Hibs being succesful higher. I was met with responses telling me to **** off or calling me a weirdo. So yes, the idea that you simply must want him to be a success (despite the fact it makes Hibs being succesful less likely) is being rammed down peoples throats.

I don’t have to accept that his sacking was a mistake because I don’t think it was a mistake. I think we made the right call sacking him when we did. Our immediate upturn in form when he left backs that up for me. We got 10 points in the 4 league games immediately after he left. With the way we were going under JR I wouldn’t have been surprised had we lost all 4.

I also don’t think he deserved the cup final as that would have meant 2 more leagues games as well which judging by the way we were playing would probably have been another 2 crap results.

He might well be a decent guy. Him doing well isn’t good for Hibs though so I want him to fail, much the same as I want Neilson, Goodwin, Hammel etc to fail. And that looks like it’s exactly what he’s going to do.

[Brightside]

As a Hibs manager he will always have my respect as he got us 3rd place in the league. And thats as good as it gets for us.

[Iain G]

Jack Ross will be spending lots of autumnal time in Dobbies very shortly...

Telling people it's all about fine grass margins probably 😁

[Since452]

As a Hibs manager he will always have my respect as he got us 3rd place in the league. And thats as good as it gets for us.

He had a huge opportunity to become an all time great Hibs manager with that St Johnstone cup final. He'd have been looking at the cup final he didn't get against Celtic to make amends for it. Always be a bit disappointed he didn't get that game. Generally did a very good job as Hibs manager. Very pleased with LJ though so onwards and upwards.

[Libby Hibby]

Jack Ross this, Jack Ross that

[GreenGray]

Jack Ross this, Jack Ross that

On a thread about manager getting sacked? How dare they.


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[tamig]

Neilson will be a couple of games away from being hounded. Even the most bitter and deranged Jambos must be embarrassed by his post match ramblings today.

Absolute melter.

Absolute clown of a bloke. “We had 11 fouls to their 12 but we got a load of bookings and two sent off.” Totally ignoring the fact that there are different types of fouls. As you say, a melter.

[Since452]

Neilson will be a couple of games away from being hounded. Even the most bitter and deranged Jambos must be embarrassed by his post match ramblings today.

Absolute melter.

Not if he keeps on getting famous heroic defeats. Two in a row now they've been celebrating.

[eastmainsmsh]

Think JR is still in Ponteland and gets similar time off like he did with Hibs

[Keith_M]

Hearts had a 'morale boosting' defeat in Switzerland and a defeat at Celtc Park, 'that was more like a win'.


Given both of those amazing results, I cant see Neilson being sacked any time soon.

[Frazerbob]

Captain Caveman is always 3 defeats away from the Jambo hordes hiring the plane again. 2 down, one to go this week.

[Frazerbob]

Dundee awash with rumours that JR has quit.

[Jim44]

Absolute clown of a bloke. “We had 11 fouls to their 12 but we got a load of bookings and two sent off.” Totally ignoring the fact that there are different types of fouls. As you say, a melter.

I’m not so sure that the Jambo muppets will be getting the knives out soon. A lot of them agree that his team choice, tactics and ‘great result’ :faf: yesterday show they are in safe hands with Robbie Replay.

[supermcginn]

Dundee awash with rumours that JR has quit.

It's all over twitter that he's away. Interesting if true.

[Libby Hibby]

JR out, Big Dunc in

[worcesterhibby]

You’ve neatly encapsulated the weird, irrational dislike for him right here.

No one’s ramming anything down your throat - you just refuse to accept that the timing of his sacking was a mistake.

He deserved to lead his Hibs team out at Hampden again last December - if he’d lost that final (likely) and things hadn’t picked up then he would have gone.

Im certainly not blind to his faults as a manager but take no joy in seeing him struggle. He seems like a decent guy and overall did a decent job for us.

I don't think that's the issue here. I didn't want us to sack Jack Ross and I was disappointed when we did, however the amount of people on here and in the media who were desperate for Jack Ross to be a big success at Dundee Utd, so that they could say..."Hibs are a shambles" has made it quite pleasing that he is doing such a terrible job at Tannadice. I have no hatred or even dislike of Jack Ross, I actually quite like Dundee Utd, but I am still thoroughly enjoying the car crash that is there season so far. :greengrin So yes I am taking Joy at seeing him struggle, despite the fact that he is a decent guy. That's what being a petty, slavering football fan is all about :na na::flag::flag:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I don't think that's the issue here. I didn't want us to sack Jack Ross and I was disappointed when we did, however the amount of people on here and in the media who were desperate for Jack Ross to be a big success at Dundee Utd, so that they could say..."Hibs are a shambles" has made it quite pleasing that he is doing such a terrible job at Tannadice. I have no hatred or even dislike of Jack Ross, I actually quite like Dundee Utd, but I am still thoroughly enjoying the car crash that is there season so far. :greengrin So yes I am taking Joy at seeing him struggle, despite the fact that he is a decent guy. That's what being a petty, slavering football fan is all about :na na::flag::flag:

That's where I am except I don't quite like Dundee United. 😀

[bingo70]

I don't think that's the issue here. I didn't want us to sack Jack Ross and I was disappointed when we did, however the amount of people on here and in the media who were desperate for Jack Ross to be a big success at Dundee Utd, so that they could say..."Hibs are a shambles" has made it quite pleasing that he is doing such a terrible job at Tannadice. I have no hatred or even dislike of Jack Ross, I actually quite like Dundee Utd, but I am still thoroughly enjoying the car crash that is there season so far. :greengrin So yes I am taking Joy at seeing him struggle, despite the fact that he is a decent guy. That's what being a petty, slavering football fan is all about :na na::flag::flag:

I think Ross comes across as an arrogant ******** and I’m delighted that he’s failing so far with Dundee Utd.

I couldn’t take to him at all as Hibs manager and when I heard him being interviewed before and after the Utd European games it reminded me why.

I also completely agree with you regarding the narrative if he’d done well with Utd, would be constant told you so posts from the people that didn’t want him sacked. I appreciated im guilty of doing the same thing by posting a told you so post when he’s failing but I’m ok with that.

[Since452]

I've got absolutely no desire for Dundee United or Jack Ross to do well. I rate him highly as a manager but he's not ours anymore. His team are competing with us. Dundee United and Ross failing is only a good thing for Hibs and that's all I'm interested in.

[Northernhibee]

It’s like he’s started off where he left us - toothless up front and powerless at the back despite some decent players.

[ian cruise]

I was a JR fan and didn't think it was the right call to sack him when we did however that's past history now. I'm really happy with how things are progressing under LJ, though we're still a work in progress, and any success Dundee Utd would have had would have been used to beat Hibs with in the media so I'm afraid to say it doesn't bother me too much that they don't have their troubles to seek.

It wasn't just the media, there were plenty on here when they signed Fletcher saying it was the type of signing we needed to make, same with their midfield players while totally writing off our signing before we'd even seen them kick a ball. I'm far happier seeing our signings and the new manager do well than be proven right about Ross being a good manager.

GGTTH

[Pretty Boy]

I don't like Ross.

His team bored me to tears.
His decision to use his post match interview after an insipid semi final defeat to settle scores with the media (the same media that give him an easy ride btw) annoyed me.
His insistence on setting up the same way against St Johnstone repeatedly, culminating in a cup final performance that made the 5-1 loss look positively spirited, was bordering on unforgivable.

When he left I'd have been quite happy to accept it was done, cup final no shows aren't quite Terry Butcher levels of disaster, if it hadn't have been for the insistence among some fans and his pals in the media that he was actually brilliant and his sacking was entirely down to spoiled and entitled Hibs fans. I didn't want him sacked but I can see why it happened. We were on a horrendous run and he showed absolutely no signs of turning it around, if anything we were getting worse when he was punted.

If this continues at Dundee Utd then it will be 3 sackings from his last 3 jobs. It might just drop then that he's a bit one dimensional.

[BILLYHIBS]

I don't like Ross.

His team bored me to tears.
His decision to use his post match interview after an insipid semi final defeat to settle scores with the media (the same media that give him an easy ride btw) annoyed me.
His insistence on setting up the same way against St Johnstone repeatedly, culminating in a cup final performance that made the 5-1 loss look positively spirited, was bordering on unforgivable.

When he left I'd have been quite happy to accept it was done, cup final no shows aren't quite Terry Butcher levels of disaster, if it hadn't have been for the insistence among some fans and his pals in the media that he was actually brilliant and his sacking was entirely down to spoiled and entitled Hibs fans. I didn't want him sacked but I can see why it happened. We were on a horrendous run and he showed absolutely no signs of turning it around, if anything we were getting worse when he was punted.

If this continues at Dundee Utd then it will be 3 sackings from his last 3 jobs. It might just drop then that he's a bit one dimensional.

Brilliant post

I didn’t like him either

[Winston Ingram]

I don't wish Jack Ross any ill will but it wouldn't surprise me if he'd left DU.

Tactically, he's one of the worst I've ever seen here. Turged football with absolutely no game plan and he never learned from his mistakes.

If he is gone, I reckon it'll be his last Management Job. I've always thought he'd be far more suited to a football administrator role.

[04Sauzee]

It's all over twitter that he's away. Interesting if true.

Some rumours of a player pressure and big fall outs.

Probably rubbish but that's from Utd fans

[He's here!]

There’s nothing weird or irrational and I dont dislike him at all, I’ve never met him. His team was dreadful to watch imo and also in alot of others opinion. I was completely losing interest in watching us under him, as were others, so I’d say my feelings on him are actually quite rational. I didn’t enjoy watching my football team whilst he was manager so im hardly going to hold him in high regard from a football point of view, am I?

I said previously I hope he fails and that it’s because it makes the chances of Hibs being succesful higher. I was met with responses telling me to **** off or calling me a weirdo. So yes, the idea that you simply must want him to be a success (despite the fact it makes Hibs being succesful less likely) is being rammed down peoples throats.

I don’t have to accept that his sacking was a mistake because I don’t think it was a mistake. I think we made the right call sacking him when we did. Our immediate upturn in form when he left backs that up for me. We got 10 points in the 4 league games immediately after he left. With the way we were going under JR I wouldn’t have been surprised had we lost all 4.

I also don’t think he deserved the cup final as that would have meant 2 more leagues games as well which judging by the way we were playing would probably have been another 2 crap results.

He might well be a decent guy. Him doing well isn’t good for Hibs though so I want him to fail, much the same as I want Neilson, Goodwin, Hammel etc to fail. And that looks like it’s exactly what he’s going to do.

Other managers don't have to 'fail' for Hibs to be a success. We just need to get our own house in order and be better than them, rather than wishing ill on others, especially guys who are in such a precarious line of work.

I obviously never want to see Hearts do better than us but a guy like Ross? Always seemed inoffensive, sincere and hard-working even if ultimately it didn't work out. I find it hard to feel bitter towards him in any way.

[J-C]

I don't like Ross.

His team bored me to tears.
His decision to use his post match interview after an insipid semi final defeat to settle scores with the media (the same media that give him an easy ride btw) annoyed me.
His insistence on setting up the same way against St Johnstone repeatedly, culminating in a cup final performance that made the 5-1 loss look positively spirited, was bordering on unforgivable.

When he left I'd have been quite happy to accept it was done, cup final no shows aren't quite Terry Butcher levels of disaster, if it hadn't have been for the insistence among some fans and his pals in the media that he was actually brilliant and his sacking was entirely down to spoiled and entitled Hibs fans. I didn't want him sacked but I can see why it happened. We were on a horrendous run and he showed absolutely no signs of turning it around, if anything we were getting worse when he was punted.

If this continues at Dundee Utd then it will be 3 sackings from his last 3 jobs. It might just drop then that he's a bit one dimensional.

Saves me posting :agree:

[Winston Ingram]

https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1561727025769025537?s=24&t=I59VdLyi_vMd4IkB3JtmFg

Not going anywhere

[The Modfather]

I don't like Ross.

His team bored me to tears.
His decision to use his post match interview after an insipid semi final defeat to settle scores with the media (the same media that give him an easy ride btw) annoyed me.
His insistence on setting up the same way against St Johnstone repeatedly, culminating in a cup final performance that made the 5-1 loss look positively spirited, was bordering on unforgivable.

When he left I'd have been quite happy to accept it was done, cup final no shows aren't quite Terry Butcher levels of disaster, if it hadn't have been for the insistence among some fans and his pals in the media that he was actually brilliant and his sacking was entirely down to spoiled and entitled Hibs fans. I didn't want him sacked but I can see why it happened. We were on a horrendous run and he showed absolutely no signs of turning it around, if anything we were getting worse when he was punted.

If this continues at Dundee Utd then it will be 3 sackings from his last 3 jobs. It might just drop then that he's a bit one dimensional.

Good post. He did a decent job at Hibs but never felt he was building particularly strong foundations or that we were building anything special. A good season followed by a poor season. Just a standard SPL manager who will generally be a safe pair of hands no more no less.

It’s difficult not to gloat simply because posters made it so polarised. Some didn’t and won’t give him any credit, others loved him and as such twisted the narrative to suit their agendas “Hibs fans now expect 1970s Brazil football”

[Paulie Walnuts]

Other managers don't have to 'fail' for Hibs to be a success. We just need to get our own house in order and be better than them, rather than wishing ill on others, especially guys who are in such a precarious line of work.

I obviously never want to see Hearts do better than us but a guy like Ross? Always seemed inoffensive, sincere and hard-working even if ultimately it didn't work out. I find it hard to feel bitter towards him in any way.

They don’t have to, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier and therefore more likely for us to be successful if they do.

[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1561727025769025537?s=24&t=I59VdLyi_vMd4IkB3JtmFg

Not going anywhere

Not a good sign for him though that rumours like that gained so much traction so quickly. Often wonder how much these stories end up acting as a sounding board for a club worried about what the optics of sacking a manager would look like.

[RMQ1967]

I won't be 'raging' if he doesn't do a good job at United but I see no reason to wish him ill. I think he gave the Hibs job his all and was rather harshly sacked after his first sustained run of bad results. Prior to that he had demonstrated an ability to arrest any slump in form very quickly.

In his relatively short time at ER he also took us to two cup finals, was a missed penalty away from another one and gave us our first third place finish in many years. He made a couple of excellent signings, breathed life into signings branded Heckingbottom duds and helped elevate Martin Boyle's game to an even higher level. Not at all shabby by the standards of a Hibs boss.

Sure the football could be frustrating and the cup final v St Johnstone plus the embarassing no-show v Hearts in the pre-covid derby at ER still rankle.

This is largely it for me. The pleasure that some people take out of the misfortune of people who are doing or have done their best for Hibs tells you all you need to know about their character. Josh Campbell, Busheri, Newall, Ron Gordon, JR, Stubbs, cup hero's like Cummings, David Gray & Hanlon have all been slaughtered on here at one point or another.

It's a depressing state of affairs that people need to go all out on the negatives.

[Smartie]

I reckon John Potter was a big part of Jack Ross' success at Hibs, the players loved him.

A bit like Stubbs who has been a bit lost without Doolan and Taff in the jobs he's had since Hibs.

I had no problem with Ross and would have happily seen him given more time. Backed properly, I think he would have very quickly addressed the problems of the first half of last season during the January window. Not sure he was ever going to be an easy fit for the Ian Gordon system though.

Re his issues at United, I suspect there are probably a couple of difficult senior players there giving him problems. That can be a challenging situation to resolve. They seem to have a lot of good players though so I'm not writing them off yet.

And I'm perfectly happy with the manager we now have, who I have a sneaky suspicion might turn out to be a very good fit for us. Results may have been a mixed bag but they've been a tough sequence of games for a number of reasons and he's given us plenty of reason to look forward to the rest of the season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

This is largely it for me. The pleasure that some people take out of the misfortune of people who are doing or have done their best for Hibs tells you all you need to know about their character. Josh Campbell, Busheri, Newall, Ron Gordon, JR, Stubbs, cup hero's like Cummings, David Gray & Hanlon have all been slaughtered on here at one point or another.

It's a depressing state of affairs that people need to go all out on the negatives.

Football fans wanting rival teams to do badly is a reflection on their character :faf:

Next you’ll be telling us we shouldn’t celebrate goals because there’s another set of fans unhappy at conceding and it might make them sad.

[Winston Ingram]

I reckon John Potter was a big part of Jack Ross' success at Hibs, the players loved him.

A bit like Stubbs who has been a bit lost without Doolan and Taff in the jobs he's had since Hibs.

I had no problem with Ross and would have happily seen him given more time. Backed properly, I think he would have very quickly addressed the problems of the first half of last season during the January window. Not sure he was ever going to be an easy fit for the Ian Gordon system though.

Re his issues at United, I suspect there are probably a couple of difficult senior players there giving him problems. That can be a challenging situation to resolve. They seem to have a lot of good players though so I'm not writing them off yet.

And I'm perfectly happy with the manager we now have, who I have a sneaky suspicion might turn out to be a very good fit for us. Results may have been a mixed bag but they've been a tough sequence of games for a number of reasons and he's given us plenty of reason to look forward to the rest of the season.

Potter has only been his asst here. His assistant at St Mirren and Sunderland was James Fowler. Fowler chose to take the Head of Football Operations gig at Killie so JR appointed Potter.

[jacomo]

I don't think that's the issue here. I didn't want us to sack Jack Ross and I was disappointed when we did, however the amount of people on here and in the media who were desperate for Jack Ross to be a big success at Dundee Utd, so that they could say..."Hibs are a shambles" has made it quite pleasing that he is doing such a terrible job at Tannadice. I have no hatred or even dislike of Jack Ross, I actually quite like Dundee Utd, but I am still thoroughly enjoying the car crash that is there season so far. :greengrin So yes I am taking Joy at seeing him struggle, despite the fact that he is a decent guy. That's what being a petty, slavering football fan is all about :na na::flag::flag:


Fair comment, although I think the number of Hibs fans thinking the above is pretty small.

There does seem to be that media narrative though, without getting too paranoid about it.

[Smartie]

Potter has only been his asst here. His assistant at St Mirren and Sunderland was James Fowler. Fowler chose to take the Head of Football Operations gig at Killie so JR appointed Potter.

Potter was with him in some capacity at Sunderland though, no?

One of the coaches maybe?

I'm sure we had to come to an agreement with Sunderland for Potter to join Ross at Hibs because he'd stayed on.

[bingo70]

I don't like Ross.

His team bored me to tears.
His decision to use his post match interview after an insipid semi final defeat to settle scores with the media (the same media that give him an easy ride btw) annoyed me.
His insistence on setting up the same way against St Johnstone repeatedly, culminating in a cup final performance that made the 5-1 loss look positively spirited, was bordering on unforgivable.

When he left I'd have been quite happy to accept it was done, cup final no shows aren't quite Terry Butcher levels of disaster, if it hadn't have been for the insistence among some fans and his pals in the media that he was actually brilliant and his sacking was entirely down to spoiled and entitled Hibs fans. I didn't want him sacked but I can see why it happened. We were on a horrendous run and he showed absolutely no signs of turning it around, if anything we were getting worse when he was punted.

If this continues at Dundee Utd then it will be 3 sackings from his last 3 jobs. It might just drop then that he's a bit one dimensional.

Yup, totally agree.

Other thing I’d add is that wherever he’s been successful he’s heavily relied on having a talisman that would score a lot of goals.

St Mirren it was Lewis Morgan, Sunderland it was the forward they sold to Bordeaux (Josh Maja maybe?) and with us it was Boyle.

With the last two, as soon as he lost them, his whole game plan went to pot and he couldn’t find a solution. At Utd, I don’t think he’s got that person.

[GreenPJ]

Yup, totally agree.

Other thing I’d add is that wherever he’s been successful he’s heavily relied on having a talisman that would score a lot of goals.

St Mirren it was Lewis Morgan, Sunderland it was the forward they sold to Bordeaux (Josh Maja maybe?) and with us it was Boyle.

With the last two, as soon as he lost them, his whole game plan went to pot and he couldn’t find a solution. At Utd, I don’t think he’s got that person.

Is that not true of any manager in their successful stints that they have had one or two key players for them.

[bingo70]

Is that not true of any manager in their successful stints that they have had one or two key players for them.

I don’t think they’re generally as reliant as we were on Boyle last season though.

[Mcbizz1998]

Not sure how to feel about JR. On the one hand I don’t have anything against him like I do some of our other ex-managers so don’t want him to do badly.

However, I had a bad feeling he was going to do really well at United and we would be wondering why we ever let him go, so I’m glad that hasn’t come pass (yet!).

[RMQ1967]

Football fans wanting rival teams to do badly is a reflection on their character :faf:

Next you’ll be telling us we shouldn’t celebrate goals because there’s another set of fans unhappy at conceding and it might make them sad.

Na it's not that at all - I'm not without my own unreasonable prejudices - I want every team to fail when it's to the benefit of Hibs and that includes wanting the OF & every other Scottish team fail in Europe so that they don't get financially stronger.

I'm talking about individual guys who do or done their best for Hibs getting undeservedly slaughtered.

[Zambernardi1875]

Na it's not that at all - I'm not without my own unreasonable prejudices - I want every team to fail when it's to the benefit of Hibs and that includes wanting the OF & every other Scottish team fail in Europe so that they don't get financially stronger.

I'm talking about individual guys who do or done their best for Hibs getting undeservedly slaughtered.

could you imagine the jack ross threads on here if he was doing well.

[jacomo]

I reckon John Potter was a big part of Jack Ross' success at Hibs, the players loved him.

A bit like Stubbs who has been a bit lost without Doolan and Taff in the jobs he's had since Hibs.

I had no problem with Ross and would have happily seen him given more time. Backed properly, I think he would have very quickly addressed the problems of the first half of last season during the January window. Not sure he was ever going to be an easy fit for the Ian Gordon system though.

Re his issues at United, I suspect there are probably a couple of difficult senior players there giving him problems. That can be a challenging situation to resolve. They seem to have a lot of good players though so I'm not writing them off yet.

And I'm perfectly happy with the manager we now have, who I have a sneaky suspicion might turn out to be a very good fit for us. Results may have been a mixed bag but they've been a tough sequence of games for a number of reasons and he's given us plenty of reason to look forward to the rest of the season.


:agree:

Ian Gordon has got pelters but it’s clear he likes exciting players, and our budget means we are signing ones with potential rather than a proven record.

JR is the tacticians tactician, but it’s all about the plan for him. I think the players got bored too.

[WhileTheChief..]

Sportsound on Saturday were saying the players held a meeting to discuss JR.

Doesn't look good when he's just in the door. Probably working on a mutually agreeable exit already.

[Mcbizz1998]

Stoke sack Michael O’Neill.

[Green forever]

Stoke sack Michael O’Neill.

Would be big favourite for the Dundee United job if Jack Ross goes .

[Souter96Mac]

Would be big favourite for the Dundee United job if Jack Ross goes .

Hope not. Also doubt they could afford him

[bingo70]

Would be big favourite for the Dundee United job if Jack Ross goes .

I’m not saying you’re wrong and dare say it’s irrelevant now as it was so long ago but did he not leave Dundee Utd on bad terms?

I always thought there was some bad blood there.

[Waxy]

Stoke sack Michael O’Neill.

Stock was so high when he took this job too.

[JimBHibees]

Sportsound on Saturday were saying the players held a meeting to discuss JR.

Doesn't look good when he's just in the door. Probably working on a mutually agreeable exit already.

Doesnt say alot for the players that. Bit of a shocker imo

[Paulie Walnuts]

Doesnt say alot for the players that. Bit of a shocker imo

Alternatively it doesn’t say much for Jack Ross.

His results have been disastrous. If the players are sitting there wondering wtf he’s doing then I don’t think it’s out of the question for them to raise that issue, much like it wouldn’t be out the question in any other line of work.

[JamesHFC]

Dundee Utd should sack Ross now and bring in O'Neill imo if they want a shot at european football next season.

[Shrekko]

I’m not saying you’re wrong and dare say it’s irrelevant now as it was so long ago but did he not leave Dundee Utd on bad terms?

I always thought there was some bad blood there.

Think it was personal thing between him and Jim McLean.

Not sure if he'd jump at a job in the SPL as quickly as this anyway bearing in mind the money he's been earning in the past few years.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dundee Utd should sack Ross now and bring in O'Neill imo if they want a shot at european football next season.

No. Dundee United should stick with Jack Ross and enhance our chances of qualifying for Europe.🙂

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

No. Dundee United should stick with Jack Ross and enhance our chances of qualifying for Europe.🙂

Indeed 🖒

[HoboHarry]

Think it was personal thing between him and Jim McLean.

Not sure if he'd jump at a job in the SPL as quickly as this anyway bearing in mind the money he's been earning in the past few years.
Jim McLean didn't like anyone, including Jim McLean.

[superfurryhibby]

I’m not saying you’re wrong and dare say it’s irrelevant now as it was so long ago but did he not leave Dundee Utd on bad terms?

I always thought there was some bad blood there.

30 years ago, I think an bad blood has long since ceased to matter.

[JimBHibees]

Alternatively it doesn’t say much for Jack Ross.

His results have been disastrous. If the players are sitting there wondering wtf he’s doing then I don’t think it’s out of the question for them to raise that issue, much like it wouldn’t be out the question in any other line of work.

Players are having private meetings after what two poor results absolutely ridiculous

[hibbyfraelibby]

Players are having private meetings after what two poor results absolutely ridiculous

Its not just the multiple bad results though. Its what is going on in training too.

[Wilson]

Its not just the multiple bad results though. Its what is going on in training too.

What do you suppose is going on?

Don't imagine Jack's coaching experience or methods would be too unworkable at a team like Dundee Utd.

Absolutely bizarre.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Players are having private meetings after what two poor results absolutely ridiculous

5 poor results really to varying degrees with some being absolutely abysmal. They’ve invested heavily and every one of their results other than the home tie v Alkmaar has been poor with their performances often being worse than the actual result.

If I’m a player and I’m being hung out to dry by a manager who’s methods and tactics make absolutely no sense than you can guarantee I’m not carrying the can either. Their players will generally have played under more than enough managers to know what to expect from a manager so if they’re revolting after 5 or 6 games then I think it’s safe to say they probably have a reason to do so.

[Jim44]

Irrespective of where the blame lies, the fact that players are ‘rebelling’ to the extent of having meetings, it is the end of the road for Jack Ross. A lost dressing room is irretrievable.

[JimBHibees]

5 poor results really to varying degrees with some being absolutely abysmal. They’ve invested heavily and every one of their results other than the home tie v Alkmaar has been poor with their performances often being worse than the actual result.

If I’m a player and I’m being hung out to dry by a manager who’s methods and tactics make absolutely no sense than you can guarantee I’m not carrying the can either. Their players will generally have played under more than enough managers to know what to expect from a manager so if they’re revolting after 5 or 6 games then I think it’s safe to say they probably have a reason to do so.

Their meeting was reported after Hearts game so hardly after 5 or 6 poor results . Talk about abdicating responsibility. Whether you like him or not Ross is a decent experienced manager

[chrisski33]

Dundee Utd should sack Ross now and bring in O'Neill imo if they want a shot at european football next season.

What at the expense if us getting to Europe??

[hibbyfraelibby]

Jack Ross just got the vote of confidence kiss of death...

[Paulie Walnuts]

Their meeting was reported after Hearts game so hardly after 5 or 6 poor results . Talk about abdicating responsibility. Whether you like him or not Ross is a decent experienced manager

Didn’t realise it was after the Hearts game. Even then, the following results have hardly proven the players wrong.

Is he a decent manager? This is the 3rd post in a row he’s probably about to get binned from. He failed at Sunderland, done an alright job here and has had an absolute shocker so far at DU to the point there’s talk of him being binned before the end of August. He took over Alloa in December, 3 points from safety and got them relegated by 10 points without ever getting them off the bottom of the table. He also has a habit of bottling it on the big stage at Sunderland, Hibs and now Dundee United and plays a crap brand of football.

The only job he was a real unarguable success at was St Mirren and that was over 4 years ago in the lower leagues playing against a mix of part time and full time teams. The reputation he seems to have gotten himself doesn’t tie in with his managerial record imo. A manager who more often than not doesn’t do enough with the odd sporadic bit of success thrown in.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not sure if anyone has listened to the Brad Friedel edition of the Sacked in The Morning podcast.

He talks about how if you have anybody working against you from within the club then you are a dead man walking from very early days. When managing New England he tried to bring in the very basic standards that are expected in the EPL. Whilst some were probably a big change such as being weighed, body fat tested and hydration tested every morning (which was sorely needed considering he said he had players walking about at 10% body fat and one as high as 24% and the canteen was full of Pepsi and Cheetos with no fresh fruit or veg to be seen). Some of the others were just base level standards. No bare feet in the physio room, everyone wears the same clothes to games, no phones in the dressing room etc etc. Within days a group of senior players were rebelling against it, stating they had the right to wear what they like or not wear flip flops if they didn't want to. When he went looking for back up from his physio, nutritionist and so on he got it to his face. In reality they were allowing players to break the rule and worse actively encouraging them in their rebellion.

If Ross has players having meetings to sort issues after 4 or 5 games then he's done. It seems a bit like Stubbs at St Mirren, ironically when he replaced Ross. He went in and ****ed off a few senior players, most notably Stephen McGinn, and they simply downed tools and wouldn't play for him. There were other reasons of course but as soon as he lost the most experienced voices in that dressing room he was never succeeding. He was sacked by September. Ross might do a bit better that but by a couple of months if he's lucky.

[04Sauzee]

Alex Neil has permission to talk to Stoke City

[Paulie Walnuts]

Alex Neil has permission to talk to Stoke City

Sunderland will be gutted to lose him.

Lost 1 game in his 19 in charge of them.

[Springbank]

I'd always look on Sunderland as a much bigger club than Stoke

Seems a weird one all round, that situation

[JamesHFC]

I'd always look on Sunderland as a much bigger club than Stoke

Seems a weird one all round, that situation

Must be paying top dollar.

[HoboHarry]

I'd always look on Sunderland as a much bigger club than Stoke

Seems a weird one all round, that situation
Exactly what I thought - if I were a Sunderland fan I'd be asking why a coach was leaving for a club like Stoke City...

[Oscar T Grouch]

Alex Neil has permission to talk to Stoke City

I had to double take when I seen that story, shirley Stoke is a step down from Sunderland? I know Sunderland have just come into the division but they're a bigger club and must have better finances, it has been 4 years since Stoke were in the EPL and look to have become a mid-table championship club.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thats an absolutely dreadful move for Neil if he takes it. Has a good thing going.

[Hiber-nation]

Thats an absolutely dreadful move for Neil if he takes it. Has a good thing going.

Absolutely baffling.

[cammy1969]

I'd always look on Sunderland as a much bigger club than Stoke

Seems a weird one all round, that situation

I would agree with you in thinking Sunderland are bigger, but I think stoke are owned by the people who own bet 365 and there are seriously wealthy


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[HoboHarry]

The BBC say that Sunderland are contractually obliged to allow him to talk to Stoke - he may just want to hear what they have to say but I'll be a little surprised if he goes.

[Gordy M]

Absolutely baffling.

Bet365 will have deep deep pockets......they get a donation of a tenner from me every weekend!!

[J-C]

The BBC say that Sunderland are contractually obliged to allow him to talk to Stoke - he may just want to hear what they have to say but I'll be a little surprised if he goes.


The fact he wants to hear what they say won't look good to the Sunderland owners and fans, surely any move he would want to make would be an upwards one and not sideways.

[darwenhibby]

Stoke financed by Coates family who own bet365
Might be willing to pump some money in
Thought Sean Dyche might be in with a chance

[GreenGray]

Stoke financed by Coates family who own bet365
Might be willing to pump some money in
Thought Sean Dyche might be in with a chance

Dyche turned it down by all accounts. Probably waiting for a Prem team, Everton maybe??


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[Scottie]

Exactly what I thought - if I were a Sunderland fan I'd be asking why a coach was leaving for a club like Stoke City...
Pure & simple the money unfortunately for the Mackems supporters

[He's here!]

I had to double take when I seen that story, shirley Stoke is a step down from Sunderland? I know Sunderland have just come into the division but they're a bigger club and must have better finances, it has been 4 years since Stoke were in the EPL and look to have become a mid-table championship club.

It's a done deal according to the Stoke Chronicle, who also say the job is much closer to his family. He has 5 kids and some are at key stages of their education.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Pure & simple

That's just Hear say! 😀

[Frazerbob]

That's just Hear say! 😀

👏👏👏

[Scottie]

That's just Hear say! 😀
:top marks

[FitbaFolkKen]

The fact he wants to hear what they say won't look good to the Sunderland owners and fans, surely any move he would want to make would be an upwards one and not sideways.

If I was Alex Neil I would probably view getting out of Sunderland without getting sacked as a success and a pretty major bit of credit on his cv.


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[SChibs]

I see Martin Canning is taking the Sunderland team today, that's a name I've not heard in a while

[JimBHibees]

I see Martin Canning is taking the Sunderland team today, that's a name I've not heard in a while

So Neil has left?

[SChibs]

So Neil has left?

Must have. I haven't seen it announced but flashscores have Canning as head coach so its inevitable

[04Sauzee]

Mowbray to be appointed Sunderland manager.

[He's here!]

Mowbray to be appointed Sunderland manager.

Not sure the Sunderland fans will be thrilled but he's carved out a really solid managerial career and was unlucky to be ditched by Blackburn IMHO.

[jacomo]

Not sure the Sunderland fans will be thrilled but he's carved out a really solid managerial career and was unlucky to be ditched by Blackburn IMHO.


Mowbray is a Middlesbrough man. Not sure Sunderland supporters will take to him.

[jacomo]

Jack Ross is surely finished after today.

[Iain G]

Jack Ross is surely finished after today.

Mikey Stewart can take his weird pro Jack persecution on Dundee Utd now...

[Pretty Boy]

No way a manager recovers from that. Not even the result but the complete downing of tools and lack of effort after it got to 5 or 6.

The Southampton gaffer survived it a couple of years back but he's the exception rather than the rule. He also didn't have a litany of other shocking results in the 2 weeks preceding it to be used against him.

Tbh I don't think that's entirely indicative of Ross or United today though. I can see this Celtic side taking 6s and 7s of a few teams this season. They are miles ahead of the rest of us.

[Hibernia&Alba]

No way a manager recovers from that. Not even the result but the complete downing of tools and lack of effort after it got to 5 or 6.

The Southampton gaffer survived it a couple of years back but he's the exception rather than the rule. He also didn't have a litany of other shocking results in the 2 weeks preceding it to be used against him.

Tbh I don't think that's entirely indicative of Ross or United today though. I can see this Celtic side taking 6s and 7s of a few teams this season. They are miles ahead of the rest of us.

No, you can't lose 0-7 and 0-9 in the space of a couple of weeks, it doesn't matter what level you play at. Clearly something is wrong in the dressing room; the United players didn't look interested. They look like a team that has lost faith in the manager. I will be astonished if Ross is still United manager this time tomorrow.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Mikey Stewart can take his weird pro Jack persecution on Dundee Utd now...

Fine margins. They’re a good team. MS

[The Harp Awakes]

Mikey Stewart can take his weird pro Jack persecution on Dundee Utd now...

If he was being consistent, he would. He and the BBC Scotland pundits are on a Hibs bashing mission though. Having a go at Dundee United for sacking JR 5 games into a season doesn’t fit in with their script and mission.

[hibee-boys]

Media darling Jack Ross, press falling over themselves to talk up Utd’s ‘start to the season’, decent European win but a draw with Killie and loss at home to Livingston! They go out of Europe and the pressure will be on with the ££££ they’ve spent.

I’ll get my coat……put your money on LJ not playing the same starting XI against Killie….you heard it here first😏

[hibee-boys]

Results such as the 2 x pumpings Utd have had could finish Jack Ross’s managerial career never mind just the Utd gig.

[Steven79]

Results such as the 2 x pumpings Utd have had could finish Jack Ross’s managerial career never mind just the Utd gig.I agree as I can't see him recovering from it.

Less than a year ago since his Hibs team beat Rangers 3-1 at Hampden...

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[hibbie02]

Guaranteed DU will start their recovery when they play Hibs….


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[WeAreHibs]

Guaranteed DU will start their recovery when they play Hibs….


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Nothing more certain!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Guaranteed DU will start their recovery when they play Hibs….


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Our charity is limitless. How many times in the past have we played a struggling team and given them a helping hand?

[GloryGlory]

Mowbray to be appointed Sunderland manager.

He'll have a job getting the fans onside, given his Middlesboro' background maybe?

[LunasBoots]

Surely Jack Ross will be away come tomorrow...

[cannastar]

gerrard being found out at villa no tactical abillity to change things when not working.

[hibbyfraelibby]

gerrard being found out at villa no tactical abillity to change things when not working.

Amazing what happens when you have to rely on talent rather than the Brotherhood of West of Scotland Referees

[Hibiza]

Our charity is limitless. How many times in the past have we played a struggling team and given them a helping hand?

Seems like we're giving all teams a helping hand .:flag:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Is Ross still there?

[BILLYHIBS]

Is Ross still there?

Saying going nowhere

Apart from the goals it was a game of fine margins 😀

[Hibernia&Alba]

Saying going nowhere

Apart from the goals it was a game of fine margins 😀

Wow, I am genuinely surprised by that. A 0-7 and 0-9 in a couple of weeks would seem fatal for any manager.