Managerial Sack Race

[Tyler Durden]

Bayern won 8/8 in the CL this season including 7 clean sheets.. twice against PSG, Barca & Inter.

I was referring to the points dropped domestically. They’d usually have the league won by now.

But those Champions League stats….. It was a feeble PSG performance and 2 other teams who are not at an elite level this season.

Interested to see how quickly they improve under Tuchel

[JimBHibees]

I was referring to the points dropped domestically. They’d usually have the league won by now.

But those Champions League stats….. It was a feeble PSG performance and 2 other teams who are not at an elite level this season.

Interested to see how quickly they improve under Tuchel

As MW said maybe as simple as losing the best goal scorer in Europe and not replacing him.

[MWHIBBIES]

I was referring to the points dropped domestically. They’d usually have the league won by now.

But those Champions League stats….. It was a feeble PSG performance and 2 other teams who are not at an elite level this season.

Interested to see how quickly they improve under Tuchel

What elite team was he supposed to beat? Barcelona, Inter and PSG with no goal conceded is exceptional. No question about that.

[Tyler Durden]

What elite team was he supposed to beat? Barcelona, Inter and PSG with no goal conceded is exceptional. No question about that.

Yeah fair comment - theres just something about him I’ve found unconvincing. Interesting to see how he does if he moves to the EPL

[jacomo]

:agree: Graham Potter would have been a better fit at Spurs than he is ever going to be (IMHO) at Chelsea.


No manager is a good fit at Spurs, because the chairman thinks he knows best.

Poch knew the squad needed refreshing and gave the club his plan to do it. Levy ignored him. Insane decision making.

[Scorrie]

Spurs sniffing around Nagelsmann apparently to replace Conte

[MWHIBBIES]

Spurs sniffing around Nagelsmann apparently to replace Conte

Would be a terrible move for Naglesmann. Should wait for a club with ambition.

[Iain G]

Conte gone...

[Lago]

Conte gone...
Yip that last post match rant was his resignation speech.

[J-C]

Yip that last post match rant was his resignation speech.


Spurs are a basket case of a club with an owner who thinks he's a football guru.

[bingo70]

Spurs are a basket case of a club with an owner who thinks he's a football guru.

In what sense?

Does their league position not roughly reflect their budget?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

In what sense?

Does their league position not roughly reflect their budget?

More or less, but the 20 point gap between them and The Arse, won't be going unnoticed.

[J-C]

In what sense?

Does their league position not roughly reflect their budget?

Did you watch the documentary, Levy is too hands on and a lot of the signings have been bang average. Yes a lovely new stadium but they've become stale and happy getting 4th or 5th due to the money they get,a problem a few clubs have in the Premier league, too comfortable.

[MWHIBBIES]

In what sense?

Does their league position not roughly reflect their budget?

Their wage bill is higher than Arsenal I think.

[The Modfather]

In what sense?

Does their league position not roughly reflect their budget?

Always thought Spurs had delusions of grandeur. A big club, but on par with the likes of Everton, Villa, Newcastle etc. Think they have won 2 FA Cups and a league cup in the last 40 years (add another 2 FA cups if going back 42 years to be fair) and last won the league in 1961. Yet they are always spoke about and defined against winning something, or not. Challenging for top 4 is about right IMO.

[Since452]

I'm not really a follower of English football but my ignorant opinion of Tottenham is that they're a bit of a soft touch and seem to settle for under achievement and mediocrity. Ironically how many people view Hibs. They once had a player that did an odd thing with his hand when he scored, which was nice.

[jacomo]

Always thought Spurs had delusions of grandeur. A big club, but on par with the likes of Everton, Villa, Newcastle etc. Think they have won 2 FA Cups and a league cup in the last 40 years (add another 2 FA cups if going back 42 years to be fair) and last won the league in 1961. Yet they are always spoke about and defined against winning something, or not. Challenging for top 4 is about right IMO.


Spurs have a massive and affluent fanbase. That stadium is a license to print money.

They also have an extremely rich owner.

The problem is that the owner and chairman don’t actually know how to put together a winning team, but think they know better than anyone else.

It’s embarrassing how empty their trophy cabinet is given the circumstances.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don't envy the next spurs manager btw , previous spurs manager's have had easier times with big clubs like arsenal, Liverpool, Man United being poor, these are all improving , Newcastle United will also improve and be in the mix for top 4 as will Chelsea and city too . 7 teams fighting it out for a top four finish ! Somebody's going to be disappointed.

[Eyrie]

Always interesting to see an outside view and this is the Aberdeen job (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65085574) as seen from Denmark.

Aberdeen (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aberdeen) are keen to make Danish coach Jess Thorup, who was sacked by Copenhagen in September, their new manager, but the 53-year-old is unlikely to accept the job as the Pittodrie outfit have become a club in chaos. (Ekstrabladet) (https://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/nyt-job-forsoeger-at-overtale-thorup/9693963)

[Iain G]

Spurs have a massive and affluent fanbase. That stadium is a license to print money.

They also have an extremely rich owner.

The problem is that the owner and chairman don’t actually know how to put together a winning team, but think they know better than anyone else.

It’s embarrassing how empty their trophy cabinet is given the circumstances.

They completely mismanaged the stadium build and that cost an awful lot more than it should have done. Typical of Levy knowing best...

[bingo70]

Barry Robson gets the Aberdeen job until the end of the season.

[BILLYHIBS]

Brendan Rodgers leaves Leicester City

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Brendan Rodgers leaves Leicester City

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He's a good manager, but Leicester should be doing better. They have been dragged into the relegation dogfight now. Leicester is a good job for someone to take.

[J-C]

He's a good manager, but Leicester should be doing better. They have been dragged into the relegation dogfight now. Leicester is a good job for someone to take.

Squad is bang average and haven't strengthened in the last 2 windows, been let down badly by the owners.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Squad is bang average and haven't strengthened in the last 2 windows, been let down badly by the owners.

Yes, he can certainly argue he has been let down, but Leicester shouldn't be in danger of relegation, IMO. So often EPL clubs sack a manager the moment relegation becomes a possibility, which is because so much money is at stake. Palace did the same thing with Veira just the other day.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yes, he can certainly argue he has been let down, but Leicester shouldn't be in danger of relegation, IMO. So often EPL clubs sack a manager the moment relegation becomes a possibility, which is because so much money is at stake. Palace did the same thing with Veira just the other day.

Likes of Maddison, Barnes, Daka, Tielemans, Pereira, Ndidi, Castagne, should be nowhere near relegation as you say. Squad is well above average.

Rodgers signed the vast majority of the squad. Big wage bill, big transfer fees.

[Donegal Hibby]

Squad is bang average and haven't strengthened in the last 2 windows, been let down badly by the owners.
Agree , sold some of there best players and didn't back Rodgers , not the managers fault imo , rate Rodgers highly

[bingo70]

Potter sacked by Chelsea

[JamesHFC]

Potter sacked by Chelsea

Nagelsmann ending up there seems quite likely. Potter will probably end up at Spurs.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Chelsea are ******* mental

[big gogs]

Chelsea are ******* mental
Steve Clarke,Scotland manager,he has a good reputation just now,may not be a big enough name in football.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Potter sacked by Chelsea

A candidate for least surprising sacking ever. It's a surprise he lasted so long.

[bingo70]

Chelsea are ******* mental

I don’t think they are mental for sacking Potter, it was just an appointment that didn’t work out.

I think they were wrong to sack Tuchel though

[davy67 +]

Steve Clarke,Scotland manager,he has a good reputation just now,may not be a big enough name in football.
Ex Chelsea player too

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I don’t think they are mental for sacking Potter, it was just an appointment that didn’t work out.

I think they were wrong to sack Tuchel though

Agree regarding tuchel. My point is more about them spending 300M then sacking the manager 2 months later

[MWHIBBIES]

Was an absolutely ridiculous decision to sack Tuchel. Potter was always going to struggle coming in mid season. He's not that type of manager.

[B.H.F.C]

Found Potter an odd appointment for Chelsea in the first place. About as far away from a Chelsea type manager as you could get.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t think they are mental for sacking Potter, it was just an appointment that didn’t work out.

I think they were wrong to sack Tuchel though
Tuchel had a 60% win rate at them , Definitely made a mistake in sacking him . Wonder who they will go for now?

[HoboHarry]

Tuchel had a 60% win rate at them , Definitely made a mistake in sacking him . Wonder who they will go for now?

Nagelsmann maybe?

[Mantis Toboggan]

No chance they are going for Clarke. It wil be Nagelsmann to fill in for Tuchel

[Donegal Hibby]

Nagelsmann maybe?
Forgot about him . Think you could be right there btw .

[Iain G]

Forgot about him . Think you could be right there btw .

Then Potter to Spurs or Leicester?

[Donegal Hibby]

Then Potter to Spurs or Leicester?
Leicester maybe though doubt spurs would be interested in him after how badly he's done at Chelsea though he won't be to worried at being out of work for awhile as the telegraph sport reported he signed one of the biggest manager contracts in there history , said it was £60 million for a 5 year deal .

[Is It On....]

Potter sacked by Chelsea

I said when he went there it was a job he couldn't turn down but one he would probably regret being offered.

[J-C]

Potter was never the man for Chelsea but he had to have a go at it due to the size of the club, sometimes being at a smaller club but enjoying yourself is more important.

I fancy Rogers for the Spurs job, the players will enjoy his style of football.

[bingo70]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?

[J-C]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?


TBH I was surprised he was given time after the Hearts game, yes we had a wee upturn in performances but yesterday was as bad as it's been all season, tactics were bizarre going with 5 defensive players against a team we need to beat and at home. Jeggo and Doyle-Hayes sitting infront of a back 3 just allowed Motherwell to come onto us and it was them that looked like the home side. This is not the 1st time he's put out a team with weird selections and it backfired then also, I'm starting to get peed off with this win a couple then lose the next 4-5 games, I'm not confident he'll bring in the right players to make us better.

[Billy Whizz]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?

Can we afford to pay him off, considering what it cost is to sack Ross and Maloney

[Paulie Walnuts]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?

I’m like you.

He needs to go if we don’t get top 6 imo. It’ll have been an absolute disaster of a season if we miss out again.

That being said, I’ve no faith it will really get any better. The recruitment team got a lot of plaudits in January on the back of a very small amount of games for guys like Egan-Riley and Jeggo but it’s starting to look like that was jumping the gun a bit. I fancy we’ll be scrambling round again in the summer for players regardless of where we finish and I fully expect they’ll be the same type of players we’ve been signing way too many of for years now.

[bingo70]

I’m like you.

He needs to go if we don’t get top 6 imo. It’ll have been an absolute disaster of a season if we miss out again.

That being said, I’ve no faith it will really get any better. The recruitment team got a lot of plaudits in January on the back of a very small amount of games for guys like Egan-Riley and Jeggo but it’s starting to look like that was jumping the gun a bit. I fancy we’ll be scrambling round again in the summer for players regardless of where we finish and I fully expect they’ll be the same type of players we’ve been signing way too many of for years now.

I don’t think it was jumping the gun. When used correctly they’re good players. When used in a 7 man defensive unit with no real obvious outlet it’s no surprise they didn’t look as good.

If we lose on Sunday do we wait until we don’t make the top 6 or do the club roll the dice hoping a change might salvage the last 2 games?

[Brightside]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?

He will be here till end of season no matter what. But if we end up outside of the top 6 I'd expect him to go.

[MWHIBBIES]

Can we afford to pay him off, considering what it cost is to sack Ross and Maloney

Yes. Yes we can.

[B.H.F.C]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?

If we miss out on top six then the season will have been a disaster. I think we’ll muster enough points to at least get that though.

The impression I get is that he’s very close to Kensell and I think he’ll be here at the start of next season regardless.

Biggest question I’d have is that I don’t think we’ve really progressed as much as we should and I don’t really think he’s built anything. If you look at the team that started on Saturday you have CJ and Fish who will be away back to their clubs. Marshall, Hanlon and Stevenson who are past their best. JDH is one we’ve already tried to get out the door. Nisbet will likely be sold and Hoppe is another who will be away back to his club. We’ll also have a number of loan players returning to us so I don’t really see us being much further forward than a year ago.

[Billy Whizz]

Yes. Yes we can.

Then it will be another waste of season ticket holders money

[MWHIBBIES]

Then it will be another waste of season ticket holders money

There would be very few season ticket holders if we didn't sack failing managers.

The owners should pay to sack managers anyway. It's their fault if he needs sacking.

[Donegal Hibby]

Do people think LJ’s coat is on a shoogly peg or is his job safe regardless of what happens?

I think we need to win next weekend to finish in the top 6 (I know that’s not the case mathematically). Failure to make top 6 I can’t think of a reason to keep him in charge, he’d have failed in every aspect of the job. If we do lose next weekend, does the club make a change?
Simple answer from me on this is yes his job should be safe regardless of what happens. We had some of the worst decision I seen in many a season go against us and at no point have we been able to field our strongest team all season, plus if you add in the fact the recruitment let him down as well as players that some of us think aren't good enough signed by previous manager's who were put on lengthy contracts who he's tried to move on like JDH , Henderson that wouldn't go I think the guy's also taken the Hibs job at a extremely bad time .

I'd give him the summer transfer window and next season and then I will judge him . One of the things that worries me the most is the choices some on here want to replace him like Martindale, McInnes , Lennon , Keane , Thompson etc etc hardly a improvement to me but more like a step backwards imo .we all know the team's been poor for a couple of years now and cost two or three managers there jobs . Manager's don't just walk into a club and fix everything right away ( sir Alex Ferguson didn't) .

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t think it was jumping the gun. When used correctly they’re good players. When used in a 7 man defensive unit with no real obvious outlet it’s no surprise they didn’t look as good.

If we lose on Sunday do we wait until we don’t make the top 6 or do the club roll the dice hoping a change might salvage the last 2 games?

They’re decent players when used correctly but no more imo. I don’t look at Jeggo for example and see a player that’s going to get us into the European spots, I see another JDH, a guy who will probably be of a standard to have us about where we are now, middle or even lower end of the league. Egan Riley looks like he has a bit of potential but I don’t think he’s a player that would be in a third place side at his current level of ability. Hoppe looks absolutely chronic and Devlin likely won’t play a minute of football.

Fish has been a decent signing, derby shocker apart, but other than that January looks like much the same as what we’ve been seeing for years now. I fully expect the summer will be the same and we’ll be saying the same things this time next year whilst we battle to get into the top 6, likely with the same guys that have been part of failing sides like Newell, JDH, Hanlon etc or with new guys like Jeggo who will offer much the same as the last guys.

I think LJ should be kept until the split but if we’re bottom 6 I’d probably consider letting him go then so that the new guy is in and ready for pre season rather than wait till the season is over and have the new guy come in a week or two before the League Cup games start.

Hopefully the director of football is in soon and can fix the recruitment as that will hamstring any manager imo much like it hamstrung JR, Maloney and LJ. Without change on that front we’ll continue to sign the same type of players and continue getting the same results.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Simple answer from me on this is yes his job should be safe regardless of what happens. We had some of the worst decision I seen in many a season go against us and at no point have we been able to field our strongest team all season, plus if you add in the fact the recruitment let him down as well as players that some of us think aren't good enough signed by previous manager's who were put on lengthy contracts who he's tried to move on like JDH , Henderson that wouldn't go I think the guy's also taken the Hibs job at a extremely bad time .

I'd give him the summer transfer window and next season and then I will judge him . One of the things that worries me the most is the choices some on here want to replace him like Martindale, McInnes , Lennon , Keane , Thompson etc etc hardly a improvement to me but more like a step backwards imo .we all know the team's been poor for a couple of years now and cost two or three managers there jobs . Manager's don't just walk into a club and fix everything right away ( sir Alex Ferguson didn't) .

I wouldn’t worry about who folk on here want in, we don’t pick the next man. I don’t think Johnson was ever really mentioned by anyone on here until he was linked by the media. Hibs will make their own decision regardless of who the fans suggest.

With regards to the SAF example, that was 37 years ago. There’s a reason people still use him as an example and it’s because nobody has really came close to replicating what he’s done since.

[Donegal Hibby]

I wouldn’t worry yourself about who folk on here want in, we don’t pick the next man. I don’t think Johnson was ever really mentioned by anyone on here until he was linked by the media. Hibs will make their own decision regardless of who the fans suggest.

With regards to the SAF example, that was 37 years ago. There’s a reason people still use him as an example and it’s because nobody has really came close to replicating what he’s done since.
Hibs fans suggestions on here are absolutely brutal btw . As to people using SAF as a example like I do I think it's important to do so as it reminds fans that even the greatest manager's who take over a club struggling can't do what fans want and fix everything immediately as what happened to Fergie with banners and chants for him to go . 3 years it took Ferguson to sort United out and he did even though fans would have sacked him long before which is a credit to the man U board for sticking with him thru difficult times .

I'm not saying LJ should get 3 year's though I do think another summer transfer window and giving him next season would be the right course of action imo . There's a awful lot of things that need fixed in this team yet and changing the manager at this stage isn't one of them . We can't keep sacking managers without giving them time to sort out issues at the club , we need some stability when it comes to the manager situation rather than fans calling for the manager's head every time we hit a bad result.

[Trinity Hibee]

Not making top 6 is a failure at Hibs and should mean the manager goes. The league cup groups were completely unacceptable and some of the formations seem off.

I accept Johnson has had terrible luck with injuries this season but the other teams in this league are so poor we should really have still been making top 6.

Got to be honest this is becoming tiring now and feels like we have no direction. We really messed up by not backing Jack Ross 2 summers ago and we are now paying the price.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hibs fans suggestions on here are absolutely brutal btw . As to people using SAF as a example like I do I think it's important to do so as it reminds fans that even the greatest manager's who take over a club struggling can't do what fans want and fix everything immediately as what happened to Fergie with banners and chants for him to go . 3 years it took Ferguson to sort United out and he did even though fans would have sacked him long before which is a credit to the man U board for sticking with him thru difficult times .

I'm not saying LJ should get 3 year's though I do think another summer transfer window and giving him next season would be the right course of action imo . There's an awful lot of things that need fixed in this team yet and changing the manager at this stage isn't one of them . We can't keep sacking managers without giving them time to sort out issues at the club , we need some stability when it comes to the manager situation rather than fans calling for the manager's head every time we hit a bad result.

I agree the suggestions of names that come up are brutal.

Yeah but your SAF example is 1 managerial appointment. There will have been tens of thousands of managerial appointments in Britain since then that haven’t done what he done. It’s safe to say the odds are massively stacked in favour of LJ being like the tens of thousands of others than the 1 outlier from 37 years ago.

I’ve noticed before that when SAF comes up as an example it’s usually because there’s little defence for the manager based on their own achievements, so people start referring to the achievements of a different manager from decades back instead. The SAF comparisons never come up when a manager is doing alright in their own right.

Stability would be great but it has to come off the back of some form of improvement considering the position we were in when he took over. If we finish bottom 6 then there hasn’t really been any at all. You can’t just give a manager time for the sake of some stability when that manager has failed every single target set to him.

[The Modfather]

Hibs fans suggestions on here are absolutely brutal btw . As to people using SAF as a example like I do I think it's important to do so as it reminds fans that even the greatest manager's who take over a club struggling can't do what fans want and fix everything immediately as what happened to Fergie with banners and chants for him to go . 3 years it took Ferguson to sort United out and he did even though fans would have sacked him long before which is a credit to the man U board for sticking with him thru difficult times .

I'm not saying LJ should get 3 year's though I do think another summer transfer window and giving him next season would be the right course of action imo . There's a awful lot of things that need fixed in this team yet and changing the manager at this stage isn't one of them . We can't keep sacking managers without giving them time to sort out issues at the club , we need some stability when it comes to the manager situation rather than fans calling for the manager's head every time we hit a bad result.

Johnson was dealt a bad hand starting the job, however I don’t see much in the way of foundations he’s laying. Next season will be another churn of players. He also seems to have little interest in developing and bringing through our U19s, despite what he says.

I’d not make a big case to sack him, but similarly if he did leave I don’t think I’d remember him in a few years time.

[Donegal Hibby]

Johnson was dealt a bad hand starting the job, however I don’t see much in the way of foundations he’s laying. Next season will be another churn of players. He also seems to have little interest in developing and bringing through our U19s, despite what he says.

I’d not make a big case to sack him, but similarly if he did leave I don’t think I’d remember him in a few years time.
Yes he has been dealt a bad hand no doubt . He took over as Hibs manager at a bad time much like Stubbs though in one sense Stubbs was lucky most of the squad were gone when he came in , LJ has had guys like Mitchell, doidge, JDH , Henderson all on good contracts that have been hard to move on .

Summer recruitment let him down and the January one is the hardest to recruit players in , as for the foundations I think we have a good foundation to build on with players in our team like Boyle, rocky , Cadden , newell , Nisbet , Marshall , Campbell and am hoping we will sign Youan and few other quality players as well .

As to him not having any interest in developing the under - 19s I think that's a bit harsh, I'm sure he has a interest in seeing young players develop though maybe he feels they aren't ready yet . A manager throwing a rake of young kids into the 1st team while consistently under pressure from fans to be sacked wouldn't be very wise either though! Most fans probably wouldn't remember him if he left though I'd like to see him get a decent chance to succeed as I would any Hibernian manager . Article here on the Leicester city job , Brendan Rodgers another good manager btw that was badly treated and let down by his club imo.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-hibs-and-current-celtic-boss-among-early-frontrunners-to-become-new-leicester-city-manager-4089833

[ScottB]

The Fergie example is always a fun one, but given his record at Aberdeen prior to United, there was enough to suggest he’d come good given time.

Not sure Lee’s track record screams he’s an all time great just waiting for the right moment…

[bingo70]

The Fergie example is always a fun one, but given his record at Aberdeen prior to United, there was enough to suggest he’d come good given time.

Not sure Lee’s track record screams he’s an all time great just waiting for the right moment…

I’m not against a manager getting time it there’s slow progress being made. It can’t just be the case that all managers just get time just cos sacked managers say they need it.

[Donegal Hibby]

The Fergie example is always a fun one, but given his record at Aberdeen prior to United, there was enough to suggest he’d come good given time.

Not sure Lee’s track record screams he’s an all time great just waiting for the right moment…
Cmon now you don't honestly think I'm comparing SAF with LJ 😂😂😂 . I was merely pointing out managers are not given enough time to turn things around at football clubs like SAF who was a whisker away from being sacked. Marco Silva another manager who was sacked at Everton and now doing extremely well at Fulham .I think managers coming into a football club that's been toiling and are a mess( like ours ) need more time and support though from the day LJ was appointed it feels like there's a element in the Hibs support that are unwilling to gave him time to rebuild and make the team better .

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m not against a manager getting time it there’s slow progress being made. It can’t just be the case that all managers just get time just cos sacked managers say they need it.

:agree:

You need to show something to merit time. If you look like you’ve not managed to improve on the previous **** shows then I don’t think you can have any complaints if you get binned.

I’d rather we changed managers until we got it right than stuck with someone who doesn’t manage to improve on what was a terrible season last year. As I said though, that’s if we finish bottom 6.

[Donegal Hibby]

I agree the suggestions of names that come up are brutal.

Yeah but your SAF example is 1 managerial appointment. There will have been tens of thousands of managerial appointments in Britain since then that haven’t done what he done. It’s safe to say the odds are massively stacked in favour of LJ being like the tens of thousands of others than the 1 outlier from 37 years ago.

I’ve noticed before that when SAF comes up as an example it’s usually because there’s little defence for the manager based on their own achievements, so people start referring to the achievements of a different manager from decades back instead. The SAF comparisons never come up when a manager is doing alright in their own right.

Stability would be great but it has to come off the back of some form of improvement considering the position we were in when he took over. If we finish bottom 6 then there hasn’t really been any at all. You can’t just give a manager time for the sake of some stability when that manager has failed every single target set to him.
SAF I to be honest use alot merely because it proves that when a club hasn't a good squad and getting badly run a manager needs far more time than at one that's going well . There's many examples of clubs making a poor decision to get rid of there current manager rather than back him and it getting even worse , Jack Ross going and Maloney coming in is a classic one imo .

I don't use SAF as a example because I don't think our current manager hasn't achieved anything, he might be no world beater though I think his record is decent , he's won 2 trophies and when he was at Barnsley or Bristol city ( can't remember which now ) he beat premier league teams and pumped Man United. I'd also add that I repeatedly bring up when defending him that every club he's managed he's left them in a higher league position than when he took over (FACT) .

We have seen some really bad performance's there's no getting away from that fact though there's also been some very good games were we have played some really good stuff in . I think we finished 8th the year before LJ was appointed and we are currently 6th . I said at the start of the year we would finish 3,4 or 5 and for weeks I've thought 3rd was gone , I still think we will get 4th or 5th which would be a big improvement on 8th the year before also if you take in some awful decisions and having Nisbet out , losing Boyle for the season and other injuries I think LJ could have had maybe another 8 points or more if we hadn't been so unlucky this year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

SAF I to be honest use alot merely because it proves that when a club hasn't a good squad and getting badly run a manager needs far more time than at one that's going well . There's many examples of clubs making a poor decision to get rid of there current manager rather than back him and it getting even worse , Jack Ross going and Maloney coming in is a classic one imo .

I don't use SAF as a example because I don't think our current manager hasn't achieved anything, he might be no world beater though I think his record is decent , he's won 2 trophies and when he was at Barnsley or Bristol city ( can't remember which now ) he beat premier league teams and pumped Man United. I'd also add that I repeatedly bring up when defending him that every club he's managed he's left them in a higher league position than when he took over (FACT) .

We have seen some really bad performance's there's no getting away from that fact though there's also been some very good games were we have played some really good stuff in . I think we finished 8th the year before LJ was appointed and we are currently 6th . I said at the start of the year we would finish 3,4 or 5 and for weeks I've thought 3rd was gone , I still think we will get 4th or 5th which would be a big improvement on 8th the year before also if you take in some awful decisions and having Nisbet out , losing Boyle for the season and other injuries I think LJ could have had maybe another 8 points or more if we hadn't been so unlucky this year.

4th and 5th would definitely be an improvement on last year, there’s no getting away from that. 7th wouldn’t particularly be though imo so if it’s bottom 6 we end up then I’d say we have completely failed in every aspect of this season and has to go. Top 6 then I’d agree he should stay.

Injuries etc are part of football. Maloney last season had Boyle sold after 3 games (2 victories and a defeat at Celtic Park) and Nisbet injured as well. He didn’t deserve to be kept on longer than he was though, regardless of the fact he was unlucky to have to deal with those situations. If LJ ends up in a situation where we’re bottom 6 then it’s on him for not having worked out how to get more from the squad imo. If we kept him on next season there’ll be more injuries again. There always is. You can’t use injuries over the course of a full season as an excuse for failing to meet every single target you’re set over a seasons worth of games.

[Donegal Hibby]

4th and 5th would definitely be an improvement on last year, there’s no getting away from that. 7th wouldn’t particularly be though imo so if it’s bottom 6 we end up then I’d say we have completely failed in every aspect of this season and has to go. Top 6 then I’d agree he should stay.

Injuries etc are part of football. Maloney last season had Boyle sold after 3 games (2 victories and a defeat at Celtic Park) and Nisbet injured as well. He didn’t deserve to be kept on longer than he was though, regardless of the fact he was unlucky to have to deal with those situations. If LJ ends up in a situation where we’re bottom 6 then it’s on him for not having worked out how to get more from the squad imo. If we kept him on next season there’ll be more injuries again. There always is. You can’t use injuries over the course of a full season as an excuse for failing to meet every single target you’re set over a seasons worth of games.
I believe we will make top 6th though I'd probably be in the minority and go as far to say even if we don't make top 6 which would be a disastrous season ( again) I'd give him another season to rebuild the squad . I think he knows who he doesn't want to keep ( two of them we accepted bids for in Jan ) which I think there will be quite a few and will be hard to move them on btw and what he needs to take us forward .

I wouldn't say I'm using injuries to make an excuse for him though any team that loses there best players normally struggle when they haven't that big of a squad and losing a player of Boyle's calibre for a full season along with Nisbet and the rest hasn't help, quite sad when you think that at no point in the season we have had our best 11 to pick from.

[bingo70]

I believe we will make top 6th though I'd probably be in the minority and go as far to say even if we don't make top 6 which would be a disastrous season ( again) I'd give him another season to rebuild the squad . I think he knows who he doesn't want to keep ( two of them we accepted bids for in Jan ) which I think there will be quite a few and will be hard to move them on btw and what he needs to take us forward .

I wouldn't say I'm using injuries to make an excuse for him though any team that loses there best players normally struggle when they haven't that big of a squad and losing a player of Boyle's calibre for a full season along with Nisbet and the rest hasn't help, quite sad when you think that at no point in the season we have had our best 11 to pick from.

He decided to gamble what would have been a fairly large part of our budget on McGeady though. Wasn’t completely unpredictable how that would pan out. He also seemed to gamble on Magennis getting his fitness back, again i think s lot of us would have predicted how that panned out.

Does anybody know how to find out how we are doing points wise this season compared to last season?

[Dashing Bob S]

With the resources we have, anything outside the top six would be an abject failure, especially given our no show in both cups.

If we are top six then it's hardly stunning season, but I'd stick with Johnson.

Outside of it i'll be shouting up the next guy. Our ambitions can't ever be so low that we feel 7th, out tamely of two cups, is somehow an acceptable stage of a 'rebuild'.

[Billy Whizz]

He decided to gamble what would have been a fairly large part of our budget on McGeady though. Wasn’t completely unpredictable how that would pan out. He also seemed to gamble on Magennis getting his fitness back, again i think s lot of us would have predicted how that panned out.

Does anybody know how to find out how we are doing points wise this season compared to last season?

Last season to 30 games - 37pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2021&spieltag=30

This season to 30 games -40pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2022&spieltag=30

Not much progress

[bingo70]

Last season to 30 games - 37pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2021&spieltag=30

This season to 30 games -40pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2022&spieltag=30

Not much progress

Goal difference of -2 compared to -3 as well. Considering we’ve got a 6-0 win under our belts this this season I thought we would have a much better goal difference this season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Last season to 30 games - 37pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2021&spieltag=30

This season to 30 games -40pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2022&spieltag=30

Not much progress

Jesus, I actually didn’t realise it was as close as that. When you throw in the disastrous cup runs there really has been no progress at all.

[Lancs Harp]

With the resources we have, anything outside the top six would be an abject failure, especially given our no show in both cups.

If we are top six then it's hardly stunning season, but I'd stick with Johnson.

Outside of it i'll be shouting up the next guy. Our ambitions can't ever be so low that we feel 7th, out tamely of two cups, is somehow an acceptable stage of a 'rebuild'.

I tend to agree. I think any Hibs manager finishing outside the top six should have his position reviewed. As you say with our resources compared to the competition top six is a minimum requirement. No one has the devine right to finish anywhere but for me Hibs finishing outside the top six is failure.

[B.H.F.C]

Last season to 30 games - 37pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2021&spieltag=30

This season to 30 games -40pts
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-premiership/spieltag/wettbewerb/SC1/plus/?saison_id=2022&spieltag=30

Not much progress

Doesn’t reflect well when you add in the disaster that is the cups. And the fact that we’ll be embarking on another rebuild of the squad in a couple of months time.

Needs to go and get a European place to rescue the season for me.

[bingo70]

Doesn’t reflect well when you add in the disaster that is the cups. And the fact that we’ll be embarking on another rebuild of the squad in a couple of months time.

Needs to go and get a European place to rescue the season for me.

Top 6 and he can point to some sort of progress.

No top 6 and another rebuild coming this summer and I can’t see any argument at all for keeping him.

[Billy Whizz]

Doesn’t reflect well when you add in the disaster that is the cups. And the fact that we’ll be embarking on another rebuild of the squad in a couple of months time.

Needs to go and get a European place to rescue the season for me.

Good point. Last season we got to the League Cup Final and Scottish Cup semi final
All we’ve had to concentrate this season is the league. As I said before LJ has to have his share of the blame, but the recruitment has been terrible.

Players not even good enough to play for Hibs, getting massive salaries

[ScottB]

Cmon now you don't honestly think I'm comparing SAF with LJ 😂😂😂 . I was merely pointing out managers are not given enough time to turn things around at football clubs like SAF who was a whisker away from being sacked. Marco Silva another manager who was sacked at Everton and now doing extremely well at Fulham .I think managers coming into a football club that's been toiling and are a mess( like ours ) need more time and support though from the day LJ was appointed it feels like there's a element in the Hibs support that are unwilling to gave him time to rebuild and make the team better .

Haha indeed not! But I guess my point was that there was enough in SAF’s background to make giving him time worthwhile. Ultimately you need to make a decision on whether a guy who has done well before just needs more time to get it right or not, or for someone less experienced, are they just not fulfilling their potential yet.

I’m not sure Lee’s Hibs record is all that out of line with his career to date? So the question becomes, is this just as good as he’s likely to perform, or is there a reservoir of as yet untapped potential…

[Phil MaGlass]

Fwiw, any manager with the backing that LJ has had with hard cash and doesn't make 6th spot in this crappy league does not deserve to be in his position. I'm sorry, but how many transfer windaes do yi need.

[BILLYHIBS]

Nottingham Forest Manager Steve Cooper gets the dreaded seal of approval from the Board

BBC Sport

[MWHIBBIES]

Nottingham Forest Manager Steve Cooper gets the dreaded seal of approval from the Board

BBC Sport

They be absolute idiots to sack him. Done a terrific job.

[BILLYHIBS]

They be absolute idiots to sack him. Done a terrific job.

👍

[stu in nottingham]

Nottingham Forest Manager Steve Cooper gets the dreaded seal of approval from the Board

BBC Sport

It's the media that have been stirring this up, the local media being some of the worst. Most Forest fans that venture an opinion like and respect Steve Cooper and want him to stay. They tend to be of the opinion too that if the worst should happen and relegation happens, he would be the best placed man to get them back up again.

It's a fairly unsusual situation that so many fans are behind a manager in this situation but it's certainly the case at the City Ground. Marinakis knows that full well too.

[J-C]

Nottingham Forest Manager Steve Cooper gets the dreaded seal of approval from the Board

BBC Sport


Don't have the money to compete in that league unless he got lucky with a few results, they've played some really good stuff and have an outstanding talent in Brennan Johnson, it was always going to be a struggle but they'll get a good few pounds when/if they go down.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They be absolute idiots to sack him. Done a terrific job.

Were they not languishing a decent bit behind at the bottom of the league at one point? I feel like I remember looking at the table and thinking they were certs for the drop.

If that was the case then he’s done alright to turn it around to them being out the relegation zone imo.

[O'Rourke3]

Nottingham Forest Manager Steve Cooper gets the dreaded seal of approval from the Board

BBC SportHope they don't panic into a sacking. He's been brilliant and the players seem to love him.

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[Callum_62]

Chelsea in advanced talks with Frank Lampard to become caretaker manager

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[Trinity Hibee]

Chelsea in advanced talks with Frank Lampard to become caretaker manager

[emoji3166]

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Madness. Only in football

[Scouse Hibee]

Chelsea in advanced talks with Frank Lampard to become caretaker manager

[emoji3166]

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Not a bad shout, failed at Everton but done well at Chelsea given the transfer restrictions and was forced to use young players who have gone on to do well in the game.

[bingo70]

Hard to see Moyes surviving this, imagine he’ll be sacked shortly.

[Donegal Hibby]

Heaviest defeat for west ham in four years , not looking good for Moyes now !

[Brightside]

Hard to see Moyes surviving this, imagine he’ll be sacked shortly.

Be fav for the Hibs job tomorrow. 😂

[bingo70]

Be fav for the Hibs job tomorrow. 😂

Mark Warburton for DoF? 😜

(He’s a coach at West Ham and you’d imagine be unemployed shortly)

[The Modfather]

Hard to see Moyes surviving this, imagine he’ll be sacked shortly.

Football is harsh. Based on this season and staying up it’s probably not unreasonable to sack him. The flip side being the two good seasons previously means it’s probably harsh to sack him overall. Only as good as your last (or current) season I suppose.

[Dmas]

Football is harsh. Based on this season and staying up it’s probably not unreasonable to sack him. The flip side being the two good seasons previously means it’s probably harsh to sack him overall. Only as good as your last (or current) season I suppose.

He’s only actually won something like 4 games in a calendar year his record has been awful for a long time a cracking euro run papers over the cracks he’s been quite fortunate to survive this long

[JamesHFC]

Chelsea in advanced talks with Frank Lampard to become caretaker manager

[emoji3166]

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Would have been just as well keeping Potter until the end of the season.

[JamesHFC]

Heaviest defeat for west ham in four years , not looking good for Moyes now !

He was lucky enough to have the worst team in the league at home on the weekend. Their team is far too good to be in the position they are at, someone else can surely get more out of them.

[Alex Trager]

He was lucky enough to have the worst team in the league at home on the weekend. Their team is far too good to be in the position they are at, someone else can surely get more out of them.

I only seen bits of the game last night but goals 3 & 4 I think it was, the individual decision making, specifically from the keeper, was absolutely bonkers.

[JamesHFC]

I only seen bits of the game last night but goals 3 & 4 I think it was, the individual decision making, specifically from the keeper, was absolutely bonkers.

1 away win all season, be surprised if he’s still in a job after Fulham away this weekend.

[Up-the-slope]

Lampard confirmed interim back at Chelsea - funny old game right enough - is this season not already set a record for EPL with over half the teams binning a manager already?

[Trinity Hibee]

Lampard confirmed interim back at Chelsea - funny old game right enough - is this season not already set a record for EPL with over half the teams binning a manager already?

Yes. It’s 13 so far I think

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Lampard confirmed interim back at Chelsea - funny old game right enough - is this season not already set a record for EPL with over half the teams binning a manager already?

Ngolo ****e has played 4 games this season, for 3 different managers. Soon to be 5 for 4. Mental 🤣

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd be surprised if this happens in fairness .
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-next-manager-antonio-conte-b2315049.html

[EdinMike]

Lampard back at Chelsea… there’s still a mathematical chance they could be relegated 😅

[Lago]

Lampard back at Chelsea… there’s still a mathematical chance they could be relegated 😅
Strange one, mediocre at Derby, failed first time at Chelsea and failed at Everton, more heart ruling head I think.

[Bobby's Cinema]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

[DaveF]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

Isn't it what he has to say? I doubt it would go down well if he said we are in a rut and will probably end up 5th.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

Not really sure what else he’s supposed to say?

[MWHIBBIES]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

Perfectly reasonable thing to say.

[BILLYHIBS]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

Hope he falls flat on his nose 😀

[J-C]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.
What do you expect him to say, sh it we're in a right mess, we'll really struggle to get 3rd now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Marcelo Bielsa new manager of Uruguay

[flash]

The arrogance of RN today on the back of 1 win in 6. 'I still think we'll finish third'. Bizarre to hear a manager talking like that with a one point lead and 8 games to go.

To be honest I still think that too.

[JimBHibees]

To be honest I still think that too.

Agree

[jacomo]

Heaviest defeat for west ham in four years , not looking good for Moyes now !


It would be hilarious if taxpayer fc go down.

See and tired of these Tories constantly on the take and getting hand outs. West Ham basically gifted a stadium built with public funds yet the owners stick the profit from selling Upton Park for housing into their own pockets.

WTF?

[Bridge hibs]

Mick Mcarthy has left Blackpool, Stephen Dobbie interim manager

[jacomo]

Mick Mcarthy has left Blackpool, Stephen Dobbie interim manager


Don’t tell me Dobbie has stopped playing?!

I thought that would never happen.

[Bridge hibs]

Don’t tell me Dobbie has stopped playing?!

I thought that would never happen.

Yeah he seems to have been around forever 🤣

[Lago]

Sold Bamba appointed assistant Manager at Cardiff, good luck to the big man.

[bingo70]

Does Neilson last the weekend as Hearts manager?

The natives are revolting, they’re wanting him sacked as well

[Hiber-nation]

Does Neilson last the weekend as Hearts manager?

The natives are revolting, they’re wanting him sacked as well

They'll keep him till the end of the season you'd think.

Not sure the Jambos are as quick to pull the trigger as some clubs.

[bingo70]

They'll keep him till the end of the season you'd think.

Not sure the Jambos are as quick to pull the trigger as some clubs.

They will fancy their chances of beating us next week for obvious reasons, if they can hang on till then and they do, all will be fine again. I don’t think they’ll sack him before they play us.

[SHODAN]

Sold Bamba appointed assistant Manager at Cardiff, good luck to the big man.

Great to hear, been a tough couple years for him.

[The Modfather]

Does Neilson last the weekend as Hearts manager?

The natives are revolting, they’re wanting him sacked as well

Parallels with Ross? On paper Neilson looks to have done a good job, 3rd and a cup final last season. Couple of wins in Europe and with 7 games to go in 4th and 2 points of 3rd this season. Yet, like Ross, it doesn’t seem all that enjoyable or that he is building anything special or laying any particular foundations.

[Donegal Hibby]

Does Neilson last the weekend as Hearts manager?

The natives are revolting, they’re wanting him sacked as well
I think they will stick with him for now even if the hertz fans want him out NOW ! . Someone said that's 7 defeats out of 11 games , is that correct ? . New poll on there forum .
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/200020-post-st-liedown-poll/

[Is It On....]

Does Neilson last the weekend as Hearts manager?

The natives are revolting, they’re wanting him sacked as well

He and Johnson both need to not lose next week. Can't see the loser (if there is one) surviving into next season.

[Bridge hibs]

Think Robbie Klopp needs one of these now 26659

[NC1875]

Hopefully Lee Johnson next. Get him to ******

[JohnM1875]

Hopefully Lee Johnson next. Get him to ******

Just put him out his misery now. Should have been punted in January

[Dunbar Hibee]

Neilson punted apparently

[BoomtownHibees]

Neilson away. Confirmed

[skyehibee]

Neilson away. Confirmed

Lucky them, shame it won’t happen with us.

[JohnM1875]

Neilson away. Confirmed

Yet we appear to be sticking with a loser.

[SaulGoodman]

They don’t accept those type of results.

[Wheat Hound]

Hearts doing everything to make sure they beat us next week....we persist with a loser. The difference

[J-C]

Nothing on BBC website yet

[SaulGoodman]

Nothing on BBC website yet

Was posted on their twitter.

[LaMotta]

Really can't believe Budge has sacked him.

Boards are far roo reactionary these days. Any run of poor results, fans start greeting online, and boards bow to it.

Rumours Naismith expected to take the reigns until end of season.

[J-C]

Was posted on their twitter.

:aok:

[greenginger]

Sky T V say Neilson sacked

[JohnM1875]

Sky T V say Neilson sacked

Aye; Hearts have already confirmed he's a goner.

[Malthibby]

On Jambo official site..

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Mental sacking Neilson imo, the guys a trumpet but his results at hertz are proven, twice now. Madness.


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[MelbourneHibees]

Mental sacking Neilson imo, the guys a trumpet but his results at hertz are proven, twice now. Madness.


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Technically the first time he moved to MKDons. Was certainly pushed out the door though. What did that plane say again?

[J-C]

So Hearts go through a bad patch and drop down to 4th then sack Robbie, in the meantime we've been pi sh all season and still have a clown in charge.

[Northernhibee]

I fear a pumping now. A bounce in morale and us with captain clueless.

[Billy Whizz]

Must admit I’m surprised at his sacking
Who’s taking the Hearts team for the Derby?

[Is It On....]

Really can't believe Budge has sacked him.

Boards are far roo reactionary these days. Any run of poor results, fans start greeting online, and boards bow to it.

Rumours Naismith expected to take the reigns until end of season.

Goodwin, Neilson and Johnson were / are underperforming with their squads. Inevitable decision from Aberdeen and Hearts, just waiting for us to follow suit.

[JohnM1875]

Neilson and Johnson are underperforming with their squads. Inevitable decision from Tynecastle, just waiting for us to follow suit

Really hoping them sacking Neilson will force us to do the same with LJ.

[BoomtownHibees]

Must admit I’m surprised at his sacking
Who’s taking the Hearts team for the Derby?

Naismith

[WestStandMoaner]

[QUOTE=Is It On....;7324024]Goodwin, Neilson and Johnson were / are underperforming with their squads. Inevitable decision from Aberdeen and Hearts, just waiting for us to follow suit.[/QUOTE

Decisive from hearts while we fanny around. Johnson should be out today but we are unfortunately a club with no leaders on and off the park. As long as it is possible to make top six Johnson will remain post.

[He's here!]

So Hearts go through a bad patch and drop down to 4th then sack Robbie, in the meantime we've been pi sh all season and still have a clown in charge.

We went through a bad patch with Ross, sacked him and it's been downhill ever since.

I'm amazed they've sacked Neilson. There must surely be more to it than just a shortish bad run of results.

[Bishop Hibee]

Not so much fan ownership as mob rule at Tynecastle.

[JammyDoidger]

Shows hearts ambition compared to ours. Joke of a club atm.

[chrisski33]

Really hoping them sacking Neilson will force us to do the same with LJ.
Lol doubt it!

[Real Emerald]

[QUOTE=Is It On....;7324024]Goodwin, Neilson and Johnson were / are underperforming with their squads. Inevitable decision from Aberdeen and Hearts, just waiting for us to follow suit.[/QUOTE

Decisive from hearts while we fanny around. Johnson should be out today but we are unfortunately a club with no leaders on and off the park. As long as it is possible to make top six Johnson will remain post.

Scrambling for top six is embarrassing for Hibs. The never ending cycle of pish continues.

[JamesHFC]

We went through a bad patch with Ross, sacked him and it's been downhill ever since.

I'm amazed they've sacked Neilson. There must surely be more to it than just a shortish bad run of results.

The football they play in general is pretty poor according to some, has been for a long time.

[Billy Whizz]

Naismith

He’s a wee scroat, but will have them fired up. He always showed up in the games v Hibs when he played for Hearts

[thebausburst]

Agree with comments that Hearts sacking Neilson and Hibs sticking with LJ when you look at where the clubs are, the squads etc shows the difference in expectations and what is and is not acceptable. LJ is basically unsackable as Hibs stick to this we can’t keep sacking managers policy even if it means sticking with a poor manager taking us nowhere.

[Silky]

Agree with comments that Hearts sacking Neilson and Hibs sticking with LJ when you look at where the clubs are, the squads etc shows the difference in expectations and what is and is not acceptable. LJ is basically unsackable as Hibs stick to this we can’t keep sacking managers policy even if it means sticking with a poor manager taking us nowhere.

What happens when the next guy takes us nowhere. And the next, and the next.......

[Stuart93]

They deal with their problem

We stick with our loser.

What a ****ing chance we’ve had to leapfrog them and we’ve ****ing blown it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What happens when the next guy takes us nowhere. And the next, and the next.......

We sack them until we find someone who does take us somewhere. You don’t settle for someone with a dreadful record incase the next guy isn’t any better.

[JJP]

Agree with comments that Hearts sacking Neilson and Hibs sticking with LJ when you look at where the clubs are, the squads etc shows the difference in expectations and what is and is not acceptable. LJ is basically unsackable as Hibs stick to this we can’t keep sacking managers policy even if it means sticking with a poor manager taking us nowhere.

It’s not even been a full year since we last sacked a manager.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

We sack them until we find someone who does take us somewhere. You don’t settle for someone with a dreadful record incase the next guy isn’t any better.

Simple logic, if you appoint the right manager we won't need to keep sacking them. The idea that sticking with a failing manager is better than appointing someone better, or assuming that anyone we appoint will be worse is typical of the loser mentality that envelopes the club! Absolutely baffling.

[Silky]

Simple logic, if you appoint the right manager we won't need to keep sacking them. The idea that sticking with a failing manager is better than appointing someone better, or assuming that anyone we appoint will be worse is typical of the loser mentality that envelopes the club! Absolutely baffling.

How do we know they are better, or, indeed, the right one? I reckon Klopp couldn't get a tune out of this team and I would suggest he's a better manager.

[Irish_Steve]

Harry Potter back in no doub

[Paulie Walnuts]

How do we know they are better, or, indeed, the right one? I reckon Klopp couldn't get a tune out of this team and I would suggest he's a better manager.

We already know this manager is *****, he’s proven that.

We’ll only know how the next guy will do once they take over.

Carry on with ***** or roll the dice and either continue with ***** that we’re getting anyway or potentially improve? No brainer. Get him in the bin.

[Hibees1973]

He’s a wee scroat, but will have them fired up. He always showed up in the games v Hibs when he played for Hearts

Not always.

Remember when we strolled it against them on a Friday night (Allan, MacLaren) and won 2-0.

This was probably the last time we beat them which is a disgrace.

Can still see his wee greetin face that night.

[Billy Whizz]

Paul Ince and Alex Rae sacked by Reading FC. Feel sorry in a way that they’ve had a 6 point deduction due to the owners, but will never feel sorry for Rae getting the bullet!

[overdrive]

Paul Ince and Alex Rae sacked by Reading FC. Feel sorry in a way that they’ve had a 6 point deduction due to the owners, but will never feel sorry for Rae getting the bullet!

Ince is someone who I've always felt has an overinflated opinion of himself. An unlikeable duo. Guess that means we will see/hear more of Rae on TV and radio again :rolleyes:

[bingo70]

Not a managerial sacking but Ross Wilson leaves Rangers for Nottingham Forest.

Was he not quite ***** for Rangers? Can’t think of many brilliant signings they’ve made recently.

[HoboHarry]

Not a managerial sacking but Ross Wilson leaves Rangers for Nottingham Forest.

Was he not quite ***** for Rangers? Can’t think of many brilliant signings they’ve made recently.

They are broke, he had no chance of accomplishing anything that those half heids would think was acceptable.

[jacomo]

We sack them until we find someone who does take us somewhere. You don’t settle for someone with a dreadful record incase the next guy isn’t any better.


We shouldn’t have sacked Jack Ross when we did. It’s been downhill since and the club have spent a lot of money achieving very little.

[Billy Whizz]

We shouldn’t have sacked Jack Ross when we did. It’s been downhill since and the club have spent a lot of money achieving very little.

Can’t disagree with this

[Highwayman]

Chris Wilder is reportedly facing the sack at Watford after 36 days.
By my rough calculation in a circa seven year senior career Porteous has served under seven managers
(including his loan period at Edinburgh City).Looks like it could be eight soon.

[JamesHFC]

Chris Wilder is reportedly facing the sack at Watford after 36 days.
By my rough calculation in a circa seven year senior career Porteous has served under seven managers
(including his loan period at Edinburgh City).Looks like it could be eight soon.

They released a statement yesterday saying he’s staying until the end of the season.

[Highwayman]

They released a statement yesterday saying he’s staying until the end of the season.

Hope for his sake he does get time until the end of the season.
But it is Watford we’re dealing with here.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We shouldn’t have sacked Jack Ross when we did. It’s been downhill since and the club have spent a lot of money achieving very little.

Has it been downhill?

The difference in league position between where he left us and where we finished with Maloney was negligible (I think it was 7th v 8th?) We’re currently higher than we were when he left and also deeper into the season (that tells its own story considering how pish we’ve been) and also higher than he had us in his first season. We’ve also never been on a run as bad as the one we were on under Jack Ross since he left (4 points out of 27/9 games).

I get people liked him but people have conveniently forgot just how bad we were under him when he left imo. People compare us now to the Jack Ross 3rd place season, but that’s not the Jack Ross that got sacked, it was the woefully underperforming 4 points from 9 games version that got sacked.

[MWHIBBIES]

Has it been downhill?

The difference in league position between where he left us and where we finished with Maloney was negligible (I think it was 7th v 8th?) and we’re currently higher than we were when he left and also higher than he had us in his first season. We’ve also never been on a run as bad as the one we were on under Jack Ross since he left.

I get people liked him but people have conveniently forgot just how bad we were under him when he left imo.

Stubbs left us in the championship. We're still much worse now than then.

Ross had a very poor run, yes. The vast majority of his time here was not like that, though.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Stubbs left us in the championship. We're still much worse now than then.

Ross had a very poor run, yes. The vast majority of his time here was not like that, though.

Again though, the vast majority of his time here wasn’t what he got sacked for. He got sacked for going on a run that even Maloney and Johnson haven’t went on and it was a run that showed no signs of getting better.

[MWHIBBIES]

Again though, the vast majority of his time here wasn’t what he got sacked for. He got sacked for going on a run that even Maloney and Johnson haven’t went on and it was a run that showed no signs of getting better.

The run started with 4 straight defeats.

The run ended with 2 wins, 3 losses and a draw.

Did it show absolutely NO signs of getting better?

That's a run of 2 wins in 10. Maloney had a run of 1 win in 13 in the league. Johnson a run of 2 wins in 11. What are you talking about?

The bad runs those 2 had both included 2 drubbings Vs Hearts as well. Rosses had one of our best ever Hampden performances. They were much worse. It's not even close.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The run started with 4 straight defeats.

The run ended with 2 wins, 3 losses and a draw.

Did it show absolutely NO signs of getting better?

That's a run of 2 wins in 10. Maloney had a run of 1 win in 13 in the league. Johnson a run of 2 wins in 11. What are you talking about?

The bad runs those 2 had both included 2 drubbings Vs Hearts as well. Rosses had one of our best ever Hampden performances. They were much worse. It's not even close.

It was a run of 4 points in 9 league games with us falling down the league at a rate of knots. A run that Maloney and Johnson have never been as poor as. That’s what I’m talking about.

We had a good win in the cup, what was it preceeded by? 4 defeats in a row. What was it followed by? 4 points from 5 games, yet more pish where we’d slipped back into a similar run to what we’d been on, so yes, not really showing signs of getting any better, or at least not showing any signs of being anywhere near good enough.

You also talk about wins as if it’s the only way of gaining points, it’s not. Maloney never had a PPG in any run of games as bad as the 9 game league run that got Jack Ross sacked, neither has Johnson, again, that’s what I’m talking about. A clever attempt at hiding his poor run though by ignoring the draws the other managers got because jack ross didn’t manage any really, I’ll give you that. PPG is what matters. Not win percentages.

The run ended with a horrendous performance at Livi and a point from his final 3 games. Again, showing little signs of improvement.

[WeeRussell]

It was a run of 4 points in 9 league games with us falling down the league at a rate of knots. A run that Maloney and Johnson have never been as poor as. That’s what I’m talking about.

We had a good win in the cup, what was it followed by? 4 points from 5 games, yet more pish where we’d slipped back into a similar run to what we’d been on, so yes, not really showing signs of getting any better.

The run ended with a horrendous performance at Livi and a point from his final 3 games.

I stuck by Ross during the majority of that run and didn’t want him to go. By the end of it, culminating in the livi defeat, I conceded that I couldn’t defend him any longer and it had become sackable form.

Whether in hindsight we’d have been better sticking with JR is another matter, but I really can’t blame the club for taking action at that point, cup final or no cup final.

It’s pretty much what put me off Michael Stewart, who I used to really like and respect as a pundit. Going on about how baffling it was (it can’t have been that baffling when almost all of us seen it coming) and seemingly having a bee in his bonnet about hibs ever since.

I think Hearts punting RN last week was far more baffling and contestable.

[Hibees1973]

Has it been downhill?

The difference in league position between where he left us and where we finished with Maloney was negligible (I think it was 7th v 8th?) We’re currently higher than we were when he left and also deeper into the season (that tells its own story considering how pish we’ve been) and also higher than he had us in his first season. We’ve also never been on a run as bad as the one we were on under Jack Ross since he left (4 points out of 27/9 games).

I get people liked him but people have conveniently forgot just how bad we were under him when he left imo. People compare us now to the Jack Ross 3rd place season, but that’s not the Jack Ross that got sacked, it was the woefully underperforming 4 points from 9 games version that got sacked.

There needs to be a bit of context built into the poor run that led to Ross being sacked.

There was a covid outbreak in the Hibs camp in the last 3 months of his tenure and the SPFL rammed a whole load of fixtures at us in a 4 week period. Yes, we lost a lot of games at this time but over the previous year Ross produced results. He was not backed properly in his last transfer window, hence having to play the likes of McGregor away in Rijeka.

In my opinion Ross got the bum's rush to early. Ron Gordon admitted this latterly.

Most Hibs fans I know have said that the appointments of Maloney & Johnson have not improved us.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There needs to be a bit of context built into the poor run that led to Ross being sacked.

There was a covid outbreak in the Hibs camp in the last 3 months of his tenure and the SPFL rammed a whole load of fixtures at us in a 4 week period. Yes, we lost a lot of games at this time but over the previous year Ross produced results. He was not backed properly in his last transfer window, hence having to play the likes of McGregor away in Rijeka.

In my opinion Ross got the bum's rush to early. Ron Gordon admitted this latterly.

Most Hibs fans I know have said that the appointments of Maloney & Johnson have not improved us.

Have Maloney and Johnson improved us? I’d agree they haven’t really, absolutely. Has it been downhill though as was suggested? The stats would suggest no, it’s been more of the same type of stuff that got JR sacked. He was sacked because we were utter garbage. Since he left we’ve continued with that.

As for Ron Gordon admitting we sacked him too early, people (not necessarily you) love to hang on to that fact despite decrying everything else about the way the club has been run for years now because it suits their narrative. Without wanting to sound crass, when it comes to football matters Ron Gordon’s tenure seen us do little right. I’m not sure I’d put a lot of weight behind whether he thought Jack Ross’ sacking was right or not, much like I wouldn’t put much weight behind Ben Kensells opinion on it after seeing his other managerial appointments. Their football decisions have been on the whole very poor and their opinion on whether they sacked JR correctly or not matters not a jot when you see what they’ve thought about other football matters over the last 3 years.

[MWHIBBIES]

It was a run of 4 points in 9 league games with us falling down the league at a rate of knots. A run that Maloney and Johnson have never been as poor as. That’s what I’m talking about.

We had a good win in the cup, what was it preceeded by? 4 defeats in a row. What was it followed by? 4 points from 5 games, yet more pish where we’d slipped back into a similar run to what we’d been on, so yes, not really showing signs of getting any better, or at least not showing any signs of being anywhere near good enough.

You also talk about wins as if it’s the only way of gaining points, it’s not. Maloney never had a PPG in any run of games as bad as the 9 game league run that got Jack Ross sacked, neither has Johnson, again, that’s what I’m talking about. A clever attempt at hiding his poor run though by ignoring the draws the other managers got because jack ross didn’t manage any really, I’ll give you that. PPG is what matters. Not win percentages.

The run ended with a horrendous performance at Livi and a point from his final 3 games. Again, showing little signs of improvement.

Right enough, Maloney's string of 0-0 draws was excellent in the old ppg metric. Dreadful in reality and as I say, including 2 defeats to hearts. So did Johnson's. I'll take the one with the league cup semi win, thank you.

Those guys will never lead a Scottish team to 2 cup finals and 3rd place. I don't especially want him back but Johnson and Maloney are hopeless in comparison.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Right enough, Maloney's string of 0-0 draws was excellent in the old ppg metric. Dreadful in reality and as I say, including 2 defeats to hearts. So did Johnson's. I'll take the one with the league cup semi win, thank you.

Those guys will never lead a Scottish team to 2 cup finals and 3rd place. I don't especially want him back but Johnson and Maloney are hopeless in comparison.

Maloneys string of 0-0s was better in the PPG metric compared to the run Ross was on. That much is absolutely undeniable, they didn’t go on a run like the one that got Ross sacked so I’m not sure why you’re even trying to argue the fact. You can try and pretend draws don’t matter, but they’re a hell of a lot better than defeats. Nobody is trying to claim it was exciting. It wasn’t any worse than the dross Jack Ross was serving up by the end though.

Ross’ final games were also dreadful in reality, whether it was results or performances.

And again, Ross didn’t get sacked for getting us third place. He got sacked for taking us on a horror run, a horror run that two incompetent managers since haven’t even managed to match. Again, that alone tells its own story about how bad we were.

[Hibees1973]

Right enough, Maloney's string of 0-0 draws was excellent in the old ppg metric. Dreadful in reality and as I say, including 2 defeats to hearts. So did Johnson's. I'll take the one with the league cup semi win, thank you.

Those guys will never lead a Scottish team to 2 cup finals and 3rd place. I don't especially want him back but Johnson and Maloney are hopeless in comparison.

100%.

We went nowhere with Maloney and going nowhere with Johnson.

Defeat on Saturday and Johnson has to be sacked.

However, we have more fundamental problems at the club and it's going to take a fair bit of time and money to get the dross out of the club.

[MWHIBBIES]

Maloneys string of 0-0s was better in the PPG metric compared to the run Ross was on. That much is absolutely undeniable, they didn’t go on a run like the one that got Ross sacked so I’m not sure why you’re even trying to argue the fact. You can try and pretend draws don’t matter, but they’re a hell of a lot better than defeats. Nobody is trying to claim it was exciting. It wasn’t any worse than the dross Jack Ross was serving up by the end though.

Ross’ final games were also dreadful in reality, whether it was results or performances.

And again, Ross didn’t get sacked for getting us third place. He got sacked for taking us on a horror run, a horror run that two incompetent managers since haven’t even managed to match. Again, that alone tells its own story about how bad we were.

They exceeded it in lack of wins and certainly in the manner of defeats. A few draws doesn't change that, but celebrate those if you wish. The Hampden win that Jack achieved at his worst, is leagues ahead of those 2 diddies at their best.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They exceeded it in lack of wins and certainly in the manner of defeats. A few draws doesn't change that, but celebrate those if you wish. The Hampden win that Jack achieved at his worst, is leagues ahead of those 2 diddies at their best.

Again, PPG is the metric that matters, not win %. And in terms of the manner of defeats, the defeats at the end of Jack Ross tenure, of which there were many in the run that got him sacked, were every bit as bad as the defeats we fell to under Maloney and LJ. Your suggestion that a better win % trumps a better PPG is simply stupid. The way a league table works will show you that. Look at the Premiership. Newcastle are above Man Utd with a lower win % over the season. Why? Because they have a better PPG.

Nobody is celebrating them, again, you’re making stuff up. Nobody is celebrating draws as you’re suggesting. Nobody is saying it was exciting under Maloney as you’re suggesting, you’re suggesting it to try and discredit the point because your win % patter is irrelevant compared to PPG which actually does matter.

The win against rangers was indeed better than anything maloney or Johnson have managed. That one result was an outlier in an absolutely horrendous run of results and performances though.

[Lago]

100%.

We went nowhere with Maloney and going nowhere with Johnson.

Defeat on Saturday and Johnson has to be sacked.

However, we have more fundamental problems at the club and it's going to take a fair bit of time and money to get the dross out of the club.
Frankly Hibs have been going no where for years, the Scottish Cup win papered over many cracks and gave a brief up lift.

[MWHIBBIES]

Again, PPG is the metric that matters, not win %. And in terms of the manner of defeats, the defeats at the end of Jack Ross tenure, of which there were many in the run that got him sacked, were every bit as bad as the defeats we fell to under Maloney and LJ. Your suggestion that a better win % trumps a better PPG is simply stupid. The way a league table works will show you that. Look at the Premiership. Newcastle are above Man Utd with a lower win % over the season. Why? Because they have a better PPG.

Nobody is celebrating them, again, you’re making stuff up. Nobody is celebrating draws as you’re suggesting. Nobody is saying it was exciting under Maloney as you’re suggesting, you’re suggesting it to try and discredit the point because your win % patter is irrelevant compared to PPG which actually does matter.

The win against rangers was indeed better than anything maloney or Johnson have managed. That one result was an outlier in an absolutely horrendous run of results and performances though.

I didn't say win % trumps points per game. But actually winning matches is quite nice. Ross done a lot more of that than the other 2.

The runs were all awful, but at least Rosses was an anomaly in a great time here. By miles the best manager of the three.

Considering everything, I think Maloney's run was much worse. As boring as Hibs have ever been. Johnsons included two 3-0 derby defeats. That was abysmal.

[Jones28]

Frankly Hibs have been going no where for years, the Scottish Cup win papered over many cracks and gave a brief up lift.

What about the subsequent 2/3 years, which were among the best times I’ve had supporting Hibs?

[JimBHibees]

What about the subsequent 2/3 years, which were among the best times I’ve had supporting Hibs?

Agree totally. Many good wins under Stubbs also.

[KeithTheHibby]

What about the subsequent 2/3 years, which were among the best times I’ve had supporting Hibs?

Likewise. We had a manager who the minute we walked through the door commented about the soft side to the club and managed to change it for a couple of years. As we know it all turned sour for whatever reason and I’m not advocating for a return of Lennon but **** me it’s not that difficult to see where the major problem lies.

[CockneyRebel]

Likewise. We had a manager who the minute we walked through the door commented about the soft side to the club and managed to change it for a couple of years. As we know it all turned sour for whatever reason and I’m not advocating for a return of Lennon but **** me it’s not that difficult to see where the major problem lies.


Have to agree. After watching Hibs through 40 years of changes to managers/coaches/player squads it seems to me that throughout the club structure/game approach we are too soft, too nicey nicey. I don't advocate turning into Don Revie's bunch of thugs but our professionalism needs turning up by several notches. Why do so many teams below us in the table, and way behind us budget wise, come out on top so often? They mostly have lower calibre players, lower budgets and poorer training facilities. What they do have in common, generally, are managers who can get the best out of whoever their club can put into the squad. Some of them may have a lot of dross to work with but they get the best they can from them through preparation, coaching the basics, fitness, tactical awareness, knowing their roles, team spirit and fight/fight/fight for every point. None of this is rocket science but it is the starting point to which talent can be added when possible. Too many limp performances over recent years highlight what Lennon saw and began to change before he imploded.

[ScottB]

I don’t think it was wrong to sack Ross, but the two failed appointments since make it a debate to be had, sadly. Ultimately if he’d been replaced by a more successful guy, we wouldn’t still be talking about him.

Says more about Maloney and Johnson than it does Jack, who hasn’t exactly set the heather alight since leaving us…

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t think it was wrong to sack Ross, but the two failed appointments since make it a debate to be had, sadly. Ultimately if he’d been replaced by a more successful guy, we wouldn’t still be talking about him.

Says more about Maloney and Johnson than it does Jack, who hasn’t exactly set the heather alight since leaving us…

:agree:

Funnily enough if you go back to the threads when Ross got sacked you’ll find folk who are desperately sticking up for him now and saying we shouldn’t have sacked him were saying that the sacking was fair enough at the time. A lot of revisionism going on that has quite clearly came off the back of the fact that Maloney and Johnson have done so poorly.

As you said, the issue hasn’t been letting go of Ross, it’s been not getting it right afterwards. That doesn’t make getting rid of Ross wrong, it makes the subsequent appointments wrong.

[JamesHFC]

Davidson sacked by St Johnstone.

[Billy Whizz]

Davidson sacked by St Johnstone.

Another panic button pressed. Hope this works in our favour on Saturday

[Moulin Yarns]

Another panic button pressed. Hope this works in our favour on Saturday

Steve McLean as interim manager.

[BILLYHIBS]

Another team that sack their Manager in an attempt to lift the feel good factor to beat us 😂

[JamesHFC]

Another panic button pressed. Hope this works in our favour on Saturday

McLean in as caretaker. Play with the same character as yesterday and we should come out with a win 🤞

[one day maybe...]

Davidson sacked by St Johnstone.

That guy should be unsackable after what he won for them

[Billy Whizz]

McLean in as caretaker. Play with the same character as yesterday and we should come out with a win 🤞

I’m not sure a caretaker is what a team in free fall need, particularly one who’s never managed before

[Potty78]

I’m not sure a caretaker is what a team in free fall need, particularly one who’s never managed before

Barry Robson?

[eastmainsmsh]

Tommy Wright or Chewbacca ?

[JammyDoidger]

Robbie Neilson? 😂

[Billy Whizz]

Barry Robson?

Fair point

[04Sauzee]

Steve McLean as interim manager.

Baw toucher

[Callum_62]

Robbie Neilson? [emoji23]Not sure he would take it but that's whobthey shoukd go for

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[CapitalGreen]

Jack Ross should go for the job. Can’t lose to St Johnstone if your are St Johnstone.

[MWHIBBIES]

About time. League record was absolutely abysmal

[Donegal Hibby]

Tommy Wright or Chewbacca ?
Think Steven Naismith will be looking for a job shortly too😂😂😂

[JamesHFC]

Tommy Wright or Chewbacca ?

Would like to see Marvin Bartley given the opportunity. Probably too soon for him though.

[jacomo]

Maloneys string of 0-0s was better in the PPG metric compared to the run Ross was on. That much is absolutely undeniable, they didn’t go on a run like the one that got Ross sacked so I’m not sure why you’re even trying to argue the fact. You can try and pretend draws don’t matter, but they’re a hell of a lot better than defeats. Nobody is trying to claim it was exciting. It wasn’t any worse than the dross Jack Ross was serving up by the end though.

Ross’ final games were also dreadful in reality, whether it was results or performances.

And again, Ross didn’t get sacked for getting us third place. He got sacked for taking us on a horror run, a horror run that two incompetent managers since haven’t even managed to match. Again, that alone tells its own story about how bad we were.


One of these days you will let this go, I hope.

Jack Ross was indeed sacked for the run we were on and not his overall record. It was a big mistake, as Ron himself hinted at.

It’s in the past now, we need to look ahead.

[Jones28]

Tweet about the reasoning behind sacking Davidson, its grim for St Johnstone fans.

https://twitter.com/stjohnstone1884/status/1647855145462427649?s=20

[Since452]

Some not very happy Wigan fans starting to question Maloney.

[Billy Whizz]

Tweet about the reasoning behind sacking Davidson, its grim for St Johnstone fans.

https://twitter.com/stjohnstone1884/status/1647855145462427649?s=20

Link not working

[Hibbyradge]

Jack Ross should go for the job. Can’t lose to St Johnstone if your are St Johnstone.

:hilarious

[Hibbyradge]

Link not working

Works for me.

https://twitter.com/stjohnstone1884/status/1647855145462427649?t=SEfSKwZxSLOmC72HImGIDA&s=19

[Paulie Walnuts]

One of these days you will let this go, I hope.

Jack Ross was indeed sacked for the run we were on and not his overall record. It was a big mistake, as Ron himself hinted at.

It’s in the past now, we need to look ahead.

And yet here you are, yet again, posting about Jack Ross, not letting it go.

I couldn’t care less if Ron hinted it was a mistake. Ron and the board have overall been poor since we were taken over. Forgive me for not taking any of their words as gospel when it comes to football matters.

[MWHIBBIES]

Tweet about the reasoning behind sacking Davidson, its grim for St Johnstone fans.

https://twitter.com/stjohnstone1884/status/1647855145462427649?s=20

I posted very similar a few months ago. His league record was terrible from day one. Thank god we never went for him.

[He's here!]

I posted very similar a few months ago. His league record was terrible from day one. Thank god we never went for him.

And yet those two cup wins in a season remain a spectacular achievement for a club that size.

[Paulie Walnuts]

And yet those two cup wins in a season remain a spectacular achievement for a club that size.

I don’t think there’s any doubting they were an achievement. But they were 2 or 3 years ago now. He can’t live off it forever.

[MWHIBBIES]

And yet those two cup wins in a season remain a spectacular achievement for a club that size.

And they look like a very lucky outlier in a dismal reign.

Some of the fortune they had was unreal. If they played that quarter final against Rangers 100 times, they'd lose 99. That's football though.

[Jones28]

And yet those two cup wins in a season remain a spectacular achievement for a club that size.

Of course they are.

But nobody should be immune from losing their job with that kind of record.

Tommy Wright bit the bullet despite being a cup winner as well.

[Jones28]

And they look like a very lucky outlier in a dismal reign.

Some of the fortune they had was unreal. If they played that quarter final against Rangers 100 times, they'd lose 99. That's football though.

They also were won under quite bizarre circumstances. I'm not convinced they'd have won both those cups under normal circumstances.

I have absolutely nothing to back that up with :greengrin

[ScottB]

I get firing a struggling manager to try and turn a season around, what I don’t get is handing the reigns to either a coach that was part of that failing regime or a player who is basically untested at that level.

Sure, sometimes it works, or if you’re just trying to see out a season with nothing to play for, but if you’re still fighting for Europe or to avoid relegation, it seems very odd to hand it over to a guy who has no real experience at what he’s doing!

[Donegal Hibby]

Some not very happy Wigan fans starting to question Maloney.
It was a recipe for disaster him going there . I watched his post - match Blackpool interview and he's says defense wise they are one of the best now but attacking they are the worst. He talks about the summer, I do wonder will he last that long tbh .
https://youtu.be/EuQ8YfsYcOE

[overdrive]

It was a recipe for disaster him going there . I watched his post - match Blackpool interview and he's says defense wise they are one of the best now but attacking they are the worst. He talks about the summer, I do wonder will he last that long tbh .
https://youtu.be/EuQ8YfsYcOE

Sounds like similar issues to what we had with him last year. Defensively sound but absolutely no intent to attack, going weeks on end with hardly a shot on goal. Seems like he hasn’t learnt.

[Since452]

It was a recipe for disaster him going there . I watched his post - match Blackpool interview and he's says defense wise they are one of the best now but attacking they are the worst. He talks about the summer, I do wonder will he last that long tbh .
https://youtu.be/EuQ8YfsYcOE

Tones of meaningless possession in their own half and absolutely toothless up front? Sounds about right.

[BILLYHIBS]

It was a recipe for disaster him going there . I watched his post - match Blackpool interview and he's says defense wise they are one of the best now but attacking they are the worst. He talks about the summer, I do wonder will he last that long tbh .
https://youtu.be/EuQ8YfsYcOE

Groundhog Day

[SHODAN]

Our old favourite Jamie Hamill has been sacked by Stranraer after they lost 8-0 to East Fife.

[jacomo]

About time. League record was absolutely abysmal


They’ve struggled for a while but the timing is just weird. They are 9th, 4 points clear of 11th. They can’t sign a striker to solve their scoring problems before the summer.

I think the owners are trying to sell and they’ve panicked.

[Donegal Hibby]

A few contenders for the St Johnstone job here . First ones thinks he's a magician instead of a 🤡 . :greengrin
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/next-st-johnstone-manager-three-former-hibs-managers-and-one-ex-hearts-boss-among-potential-candidates-4110778

[Billy Whizz]

A few contenders for the St Johnstone job here . First ones thinks he's a magician instead of a 🤡 . :greengrin
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/next-st-johnstone-manager-three-former-hibs-managers-and-one-ex-hearts-boss-among-potential-candidates-4110778

It’s not a job if I was an out of work manager, I’d be chasing just now
They are up for sale and you never know who the new owners will fancy

[Donegal Hibby]

It’s not a job if I was an out of work manager, I’d be chasing just now
They are up for sale and you never know who the new owners will fancy
Forgot they were up for sale , probably most managers would have concerns about taking over with them up for sale unless they are of course desperate to get back into management again .

[Northernhibee]

Some not very happy Wigan fans starting to question Maloney.
Sometimes you need to try a role to find out if you’re suited to it. That happened with us, he was abysmal and clearly not cut out for it. He brought nothing to the table but we know he can be a decent coach.

For him to have a second crack at the whip and to appear to be making the same mistakes is baffling beyond belief. Needs to have a long hard look in the mirror because as stupid Wigan were to appoint him, he’s wasting his and Wigans time by not looking for another decent coaching role.

[JamesHFC]

Nagelsmann has withdrawn from becoming the next Chelsea manager. Pochettino seems to be favourite now.

[Hibernian Verse]

Nagelsmann has withdrawn from becoming the next Chelsea manager. Pochettino seems to be favourite now.

The St Johnstone job proving too much of a lure for him.

[JamesHFC]

The St Johnstone job proving too much of a lure for him.

He will relish the battle with Tam Courts.

[BILLYHIBS]

Spurs sack Christian Stellini

BBC Sport

[Alex Trager]

Spurs sack Christian Stellini

BBC Sport

Spurs are sheer entertainment from afar.

Absolutely rudderless.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Has anyone ever sacked an interim before?

[CapitalGreen]

Has anyone ever sacked an interim before?

Surely Hearts must have done it a few times during the Romanov era.

[bingo70]

Spurs are sheer entertainment from afar.

Absolutely rudderless.

Think they’re without a DoF just now as well aren’t they?

Doubt they’ll want him but I think Postecoglu would be a great appointment for them. That sort of high energy attacking football is what they need after the last couple of boring teams they’ve had.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely Hearts must have done it a few times during the Romanov era.

Good point :agree: