Managerial Sack Race

[hibees 7062]

Guaranteed DU will start their recovery when they play Hibs….


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Killie first . They’re struggling

[He's here!]

Is Ross still there?

Very surprised he seems to still be in post. There are limits to what fans should be expected to tolerate and yesterday's result surely exceeded that limit. I'd be unhappy to see a Hibs boss keep his job in similar circumstances.

[04Sauzee]

Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth

[Hibernia&Alba]

Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth

From the club statement, a heavy hint there was a falling out:



"However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now"

[Northernhibee]

Very surprised he seems to still be in post. There are limits to what fans should be expected to tolerate and yesterday's result surely exceeded that limit. I'd be unhappy to see a Hibs boss keep his job in similar circumstances.
Based off nothing but chat from Dundee United fans I know, wouldn’t shock me to see him away today or tomorrow. Very little substance behind that though, just guesswork.

[green day]

Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth

I was never a fan of that cardigan.

[J-C]

From the club statement, a heavy hint there was a falling out:



"However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now"

Humiliating defeat, hence why I'm surprised not to hear about Ross being emptied also. Most teams like Bournemouth will accept a defeat from teams like Liverpool, 0-9 it just too much.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Very surprised he seems to still be in post. There are limits to what fans should be expected to tolerate and yesterday's result surely exceeded that limit. I'd be unhappy to see a Hibs boss keep his job in similar circumstances.

Whilst the result is shocking enough, the lack of effort by the players once they went behind was embarrassing, Celtic were very good but, United just appeared to down tools.

[easty]

Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth

Doesn’t matter who they bring in. That squad is nowhere near good enough to stay up.

[Since452]

Wow, I am genuinely surprised by that. A 0-7 and 0-9 in a couple of weeks would seem fatal for any manager.

You can almost get away with it against AZ and Celtic. Streets ahead of Dundee United. If it was against St Mirren and Aberdeen then he'd have been offski.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

From the club statement, a heavy hint there was a falling out:



"However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now"

He was interviewed before Saturdays game on SSN and asked if he would be given an opportunity to bring in more players before the window closed and gave a very non-comittal answer, cue lots of discussion in the studio about what he'd been told from above.

[bingo70]

From the club statement, a heavy hint there was a falling out:



"However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now"

If he’s been a dick to people then good for them sticking to their values.

Makes more sense than sacking him because of a bad result.

[Iain G]

I was never a fan of that cardigan.

His dress sense is awful...glad I don't have to put up with the cardi on MOTD!

[EGL2000]

Scott parker we have a winner. Feel a little for him but really don't think you can come back from those post match comments.

[Blaster]

Jack Ross sacked according to the Sun

[04Sauzee]

Jack Ross gone ?

[Just_Jimmy]

From the club statement, a heavy hint there was a falling out:



"However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now"Between the lines

"We're happy to be a yo yo club and pocket the premiership money but never buy premiership level players. The manager disagreed and showed greater ambition having left a good Job at Fulham to manage us, taking us up at the first opportunity, voiced his displeasure at this so we emptied him".

Poor result at the weekend no doubt but whoever played Liverpool was going to face a backlash having lost to Utd. That won't define the season for them and it's a pretty crap way to treat Parker.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Between the lines

"We're happy to be a yo yo club and pocket the premiership money but never buy premiership level players. The manager disagreed and showed greater ambition having left a good Job at Fulham to manage us, taking us up at the first opportunity".

Poor result at the weekend no doubt but whoever played Liverpool was going to face a backlash having lost to Utd. That won't define the season for them and it's a pretty crap way to treat Parker.


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Bournemouth stayed up for 5 years and spent plenty of money with a better manager in Howe.

Parker got backed big time at Fulham and flopped. He's not premier league quality I don't think.

[GloryGlory]

Jack Ross reportedly sacked.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jack-ross-sacked-dundee-united-27852031

[Winston Ingram]

Doesn’t matter who they bring in. That squad is nowhere near good enough to stay up.

That's his fault then. He brought in 14 players this summer.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dundee-united-fc/transfers/verein/1519

[Winston Ingram]

Bournemouth stayed up for 5 years and spent plenty of money with a better manager in Howe.

Parker got backed big time at Fulham and flopped. He's not premier league quality I don't think.

Tbf, He's played 4 PL games, Beat Villa then lost to City, Arsenal and Liverpool. He's probably got more points than expected.

[MWHIBBIES]

Tbf, He's played 4 PL games, Beat Villa then lost to City, Arsenal and Liverpool. He's probably got more points than expected.

It's definitely harsh based purely on that. But there's an element of making yourself hard to beat and having a gameplan. All 3 of those matches were lost after 20 minutes

[bigwheel]

Parker rumoured to have had an altercation with some of his players ….

[easty]

That's his fault then. He brought in 14 players this summer.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dundee-united-fc/transfers/verein/1519

I was talking about Parker at Bournemouth.

[Nicho87]

Look forward to hearing how Dundee United now sacking Ross is hibs fault also

[FilipinoHibs]

Could he still do a job at Hibs?

[Winston Ingram]

I was talking about Parker at Bournemouth.

Apologies

[500miles]

That's his fault then. He brought in 14 players this summer.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dundee-united-fc/transfers/verein/1519

He brought in 8, the rest are upcoming loan returns.

[MikeyS]

Big Dunc or Michael O'Neill for Tannadice?

[Northernhibee]

Based off nothing but chat from Dundee United fans I know, wouldn’t shock me to see him away today or tomorrow. Very little substance behind that though, just guesswork.
I was absolutely 100% ITK and no guesswork involved, I expect my plaque to be erected by the end of play today

[cabbageandribs1875]

that was a short lived appointment, how long was jack ross there for

[GloryGlory]

that was a short lived appointment, how long was jack ross there for

About 10 weeks.

[Greencore]

that was a short lived appointment, how long was jack ross there for

10 weeks.

[cabbageandribs1875]

About 10 weeks.


10 weeks.


ouch

look forward to hearing him on sportsound :greengrin


but on a serious note the DU owner ain't hanging about there

[Spike Mandela]

ouch

look forward to hearing him on sportsound :greengrin


but on a serious note the DU owner ain't hanging about there

That’s a career ending sacking that one. If he stays a manager he’s going to have to go down the leagues and build his reputation up again surely.

[J-C]

ouch

look forward to hearing him on sportsound :greengrin


but on a serious note the DU owner ain't hanging about there

Seemingly the rumours of senior players having private meetings regarding Ross sounds like he lost the dressing room, no coming back from that when it happens.

[J-C]

That’s a career ending sacking that one. If he stays a manager he’s going to have to go down the leagues and build his reputation up again surely.

Career in punditry beckons.

[Northernhibee]

Seemingly the rumours of senior players having private meetings regarding Ross sounds like he lost the dressing room, no coming back from that when it happens.
For that to happen so soon is bizarre.

[NC1875]

Seemingly the rumours of senior players having private meetings regarding Ross sounds like he lost the dressing room, no coming back from that when it happens.

We also had senior players not happy with Ross towards end of his time here. Not the superstar so many on here will have you believe.

Bang average manager

[Smartie]

That’s an insane chain of events since beating AZ.

Almost like beating Rangers with a superb performance in a semi final and finding yourself sacked by the final.

I’d be surprised if United’s problems begin and end with the manager for this to have happened and a few eyes will need to be trained on their more senior and high profile players going forward.

[J-C]

For that to happen so soon is bizarre.

Noticable that Watt and Mulgrew were dropped against Celtic.

[Craig_HFC]

He deserved at least 1 more game, they owed him that much.

That's what was said when we sacked him, no?

[J-C]

He deserved at least 1 more game, they owed him that much.

That's what was said when we sacked him, no?

If Ross had stayed and did well in that final, he couldn't have been sacked but there was no guarantee things would've improved. I heard Ron wanted him out regardless, hence why all his media pals had a go at Hibs when he went.

[Hibernia&Alba]

10 weeks.

That's disastrous and won't be easy to put behind him. I wonder how much his pay off will be for ten weeks work?

[GreenPJ]

I wonder if the media will give DU as hard a time as they gave Hibs when we pulled the trigger on Maloney after his brief stint.

[J-C]

I wonder if the media will give DU as hard a time as they gave Hibs when we pulled the trigger on Maloney after his brief stint.

We didn't get pumped 7 and 9 nothing under Maloney though.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He deserved at least 1 more game, they owed him that much.

That's what was said when we sacked him, no?

:greengrin

I honestly don’t think Jack Ross is all that good a manager.

He took over at Alloa with them 3 points off the bottom of the Championship in December. He got them relegated by double figures.

He done well at St Mirren with the only caveat being it was in the Championship so at a lower level. Definitely a success there though.

Failed at Sunderland.

He had plenty time to turn things around at us in his first season and didn’t have all that much ground to make up by the time he took over to get us top 6. He didn’t manage it. Done well to get us third. Left us in the bottom half. Had numerous terrible results. Done an alright job, no more, no less.

Now failed spectacularly at Dundee United.

I’d suspect if he carries on as a manager it’ll be in the top half of the Scottish Championship which considering it’s the only place he’s had unarguable success is probably his level imo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wonder if the media will give DU as hard a time as they gave Hibs when we pulled the trigger on Maloney after his brief stint.

I said it at the time but Maloney was thrown under the bus by Hibs.

Woefully backed after taking over a team on an atrocious run of form and losing the best player outwith the OF in the league. A guy that was carrying the team to mid table. Pretty much every combination of players and formations he was left with was woeful.

I don’t think his time at Hibs tells us anything about how Maloney will fair in future tbh.

[Hibernia&Alba]

If you're emptied within ten weeks, I suppose you can only fall back on the "I wasn't given a chance" excuse. "Things were terrible when I arrived and were going to take time to rectify, but what can you do in ten weeks"?

His only argument.

[Since452]

Looking forward to the press and pundits slamming United as much as they did us when we punted their Celtic golden boy Maloney. Wont hold my breath.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you're emptied within ten weeks, I suppose you can only fall back the "I wasn't given a chance" excuse. "Things were terrible when I arrived and were going to take time to rectify, but what can you do in ten weeks"?

His only argument.

They finished 4th last season and he’s been heavily backed. I’m not sure he can claim things were terrible for him at all. Infact I don’t think he could realistically expect to be set up for success more than he was.

[Craig_HFC]

If Ross had stayed and did well in that final, he couldn't have been sacked but there was no guarantee things would've improved. I heard Ron wanted him out regardless, hence why all his media pals had a go at Hibs when he went.

Sacking him when we did was 100% correct and arguably should have happened sooner. The results were *****, the football was honking, he was extremely boring and uninspiring and there was no indication that anything was going to change in a positive sense so punting him was the only thing to do.

Unfortunately we replaced him with a ventriloquist's puppet lookalike who knew as much about football management as an actual ventriloquist's puppet.

Ross will struggle to get a job now and his ego will need to allow him to drop at least a division in Scotland if he wants to continue to be a manager. If not, then he'll be perfectly suited to sitting alongside the other ******s on Sportsound.

[GreenGray]

I said it at the time but Maloney was thrown under the bus by Hibs.

Woefully backed after taking over a team on an atrocious run of form and losing the best player outwith the OF in the league. A guy that was carrying the team to mid table. Pretty much every combination of players and formations he was left with was woeful.

I don’t think his time at Hibs tells us anything about how Maloney will fair in future tbh.

Yeah you’re probably not far off there, he could go on to do well. Although his teams didn’t create much he did improve our defence and had Porteous playing really well.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

They finished 4th last season and he’s been heavily backed. I’m not sure he can claim things were terrible for him at all. Infact I don’t think he could realistically expect to be set up for success more than he was.

You're right, but I think it's his only hope. He can only say the club panicked and sacked him far too quickly. Clutching at straws, as it's terrible for him.

[Since452]

They finished 4th last season and he’s been heavily backed. I’m not sure he can claim things were terrible for him at all. Infact I don’t think he could realistically expect to be set up for success more than he was.

Probably the worst team to ever finish fourth. Sure they went months without a win.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Seemingly the rumours of senior players having private meetings regarding Ross sounds like he lost the dressing room, no coming back from that when it happens.

TYou have to ask if he actually 'had' the dressing room at all at any time. Mellon bailed, Courts bailed so it sounds as if there is another factor at play in their backroom structure / player engagement

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah you’re probably not far off there, he could go on to do well. Although his teams didn’t create much he did improve our defence and had Porteous playing really well.


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Yeah. Not saying he’s a good manager as there was no evidence of that either but I remember the threads asking what everyone thought the 11 should be for the next game during maloneys tenure and every one of them was a disaster waiting to happen.

[Just_Jimmy]

Bournemouth stayed up for 5 years and spent plenty of money with a better manager in Howe.

Parker got backed big time at Fulham and flopped. He's not premier league quality I don't think.They've played City and Liverpool in their first 4 games.

It's harsh and it's ridiculously early. Even given Saturdays result. They'll go down whoever they appoint.

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[Iain G]

They've played City and Liverpool in their first 4 games.

It's harsh and it's ridiculously early. Even given Saturdays result. They'll go down whoever they appoint.

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It seems to be more about his criticism of the owners and the players that triggered it, not the results.

[Billy Whizz]

Unfortunately there’s no way back after a 9-0 home defeat
Wonder if United have taken advantage of the 3 month probationary period to get rid off, min pay off
Similar to Stubbs at St Mirren and Kenny Miller at Livvi

[Just_Jimmy]

It seems to be more about his criticism of the owners and the players that triggered it, not the results.I'd agree but I go back to my previous post. Clearly happy to pocket the big league money rather than back their manager to stay in that league. They'll be down by Christmas.

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[Zambernardi1875]

Probably the worst team to ever finish fourth. Sure they went months without a win.

You could also argue we were one of the worst teams ever to finish 3rd

[Paulie Walnuts]

You could also argue we were one of the worst teams ever to finish 3rd

We were one of the lower points totals for 3rd in recent times I’m sure.

[oneone73]

We were one of the lower points totals for 3rd in recent times I’m sure.

We got two points more than Hertz did last season did we not?

[ancient hibee]

TYou have to ask if he actually 'had' the dressing room at all at any time. Mellon bailed, Courts bailed so it sounds as if there is another factor at play in their backroom structure / player engagement

Definitely a problem there. Courts leaving didn’t make sense.

Meanwhile looks like 9 is the magic number. There’ll be a few managers keeping there fingers crossed against Celtic.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We got two points more than Hertz did last season did we not?

Yup. I’m sure it’s still lower than most seasons over the last decade or so though.

[007]

Look forward to hearing how Dundee United now sacking Ross is hibs fault also

Media narrative will be trigger happy American owners so we will definitely get mentioned.

[KeithTheHibby]

Dreadful decision to sack Jack Ross. Same goes for Scott Parker and to a lesser extent Michael o'Neill.

Imagine giving your manager all summer to build a team only to sack him after a few poor results? Bizarre from those club owners.

[KeithTheHibby]

You could also argue we were one of the worst teams ever to finish 3rd

Only a Hibs fan would say that.

[Sergio sledge]

We were one of the lower points totals for 3rd in recent times I’m sure.

Since the 12 team league began the max points for 3rd is 73 (when Hearts were at peak financial doping stage and finished 2nd), the minimum is 56 and the average is 63.7.

In the 22 seasons of a 12 team league, the team finishing 3rd has got more than 63 points 10 times, less than 63 points 8 times and finished on 63 points 4 times. 63 points is the most common 3rd place points total since the 12 team league began. Ross's Hibs team were average for a third place finishing team, not near the bottom, or one of the worst as someone else has suggested.

I don't see why people have to try to revise history to bash him. 3rd was a good achievement even though the football wasn't good.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Since the 12 team league began the max points for 3rd is 73 (when Hearts were at peak financial doping stage and finished 2nd), the minimum is 56 and the average is 63.7.

In the 22 seasons of a 12 team league, the team finishing 3rd has got more than 63 points 10 times, less than 63 points 8 times and finished on 63 points 4 times. 63 points is the most common 3rd place points total since the 12 team league began. Ross's Hibs team were average for a third place finishing team, not near the bottom, or one of the worst as someone else has suggested.

I don't see why people have to try to revise history to bash him. 3rd was a good achievement even though the football wasn't good.

To be fair, I did say in recent times, I couldn’t be arsed going back 22 years. In the last decade, we’ve had one of the lower points totals I think.

[Since452]

What i would give to have a low 3rd place points total these days.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What i would give to have a low 3rd place points total these days.

Likewise.

Jack Ross wouldn’t be the one to deliver it though. His managerial record would suggest that was a complete fluke rather than something to expect.

5 clubs, 3 sackings, a relegation and only 1 unarguable successful job.

[Sergio sledge]

To be fair, I did say in recent times, I couldn’t be arsed going back 22 years. In the last decade, we’ve had one of the lower points totals I think.

Skewed by the fact that 4 of those 10 seasons there was no Rangers in the league so you could argue the quality of the league was lower then allowing a higher points total.

Even so, the average points total in those 10 seasons is 64, so a massive 1 point above what we got (the big caveat being that the Covid shortened season is worked out on a points per game average and there's no knowing for sure how many points 3rd place would have got that season). I think my point still stands.

Your arbitrary 10 season cut off is convenient given that no team in the 5 seasons before that got more than 63 points.... :greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

Skewed by the fact that 4 of those 10 seasons there was no Rangers in the league so you could argue the quality of the league was lower then allowing a higher points total.

Even so, the average points total in those 10 seasons is 64, so a massive 1 point above what we got (the big caveat being that the Covid shortened season is worked out on a points per game average and there's no knowing for sure how many points 3rd place would have got that season). I think my point still stands.

Your arbitrary 10 season cut off is convenient given that no team in the 5 seasons before that got more than 63 points.... :greengrin

If that’s the case then you could argue our 3rd place finish was skewed by not having a Hearts side in the league who knocked us out the cup that season and then romped 3rd the next season.

The teams in the league are the teams in the league. It doesn’t skew anything imo.

[Callum_62]

If that’s the case then you could argue our 3rd place finish was skewed by not having a Hearts side in the league who knocked us out the cup that season and then romped 3rd the next season.

The teams in the league are the teams in the league. It doesn’t skew anything imo.Tell that to the 'we only finished third cause the league was rank' brigade

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Tell that to the 'we only finished third cause the league was rank' brigade

[emoji23]

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Yup, not something I really buy into.

[B.H.F.C]

Dreadful decision to sack Jack Ross. Same goes for Scott Parker and to a lesser extent Michael o'Neill.

Imagine giving your manager all summer to build a team only to sack him after a few poor results? Bizarre from those club owners.

There are some results managers just can’t recover from and that was the case for Ross at the weekend. Maybe if it wasn’t so close on the back of a 7-0 he’d have stood more of a chance. His players had clearly chucked it so they didn’t have any option.

[Trinity Hibee]

We should have got rid of Fenlon after malmo. We all knew it was coming but held in to him for a couple of months which didn’t work out well

[Sergio sledge]

If that’s the case then you could argue our 3rd place finish was skewed by not having a Hearts side in the league who knocked us out the cup that season and then romped 3rd the next season.

The teams in the league are the teams in the league. It doesn’t skew anything imo.

Hearts who romped to third with less points than we had got the season before?

Hearts are a bit different to Rangers and Celtic though, there's a strong argument that for most teams in the league you can pretty much write off a minimum of 7-9 points per season against Rangers and Celtic (more if you get into the top 6) because they are so far ahead of all the other teams. You can't say the same for teams facing Hearts. Or do you go into the season not expecting any points from games against Hearts?

Anyway, if that is your argument, then why are you bothering to compare points totals season to season, surely the teams in the league are the teams in the league and finishing the best of the rest is an achievement no matter how many points you get?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hearts who romped to third with less points than we had got the season before?

Hearts are a bit different to Rangers and Celtic though, there's a strong argument that for most teams in the league you can pretty much write off a minimum of 7-9 points per season against Rangers and Celtic (more if you get into the top 6) because they are so far ahead of all the other teams. You can't say the same for teams facing Hearts. Or do you go into the season not expecting any points from games against Hearts?

Anyway, if that is your argument, then why are you bothering to compare points totals season to season, surely the teams in the league are the teams in the league and finishing the best of the rest is an achievement no matter how many points you get?

It’s not my argument, it was your argument. I was just pointing it how flawed it was.

[Sergio sledge]

It’s not my argument, it was your argument. I was just pointing it how flawed it was.

Pointing out how flawed it was by suggesting that having no Hearts in the league the season we finished third is comparable to having no Rangers in the league in the earlier seasons?

It's no even close to being comparable.

Anyway, the original point was that we were one of the worst 3rd place finishing teams with one of the lowest points total, which isn't the case. In fact a Hearts that "romped" to third in the league last season had a lower points total than us the season before.

[MWHIBBIES]

We should have got rid of Fenlon after malmo. We all knew it was coming but held in to him for a couple of months which didn’t work out well

Tbh, Fenlon got 14 points from the first 9 games that season, putting us 5th. We were much worse when we got rid.

Fenlon should've either A) finished his contract or B) left that summer, before Malmo.

He had built a basic and average squad, but one he could get pulling together and scrap some wins. Butcher just destroyed that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pointing out how flawed it was by suggesting that having no Hearts in the league the season we finished third is comparable to having no Rangers in the league in the earlier seasons?

It's no even close to being comparable.

Anyway, the original point was that we were one of the worst 3rd place finishing teams with one of the lowest points total, which isn't the case. In fact a Hearts that "romped" to third in the league last season had a lower points total than us the season before.

They’d sealed third before the split.

If you don’t think they “romped it” you’re only kidding yourself.

[Sergio sledge]

They’d sealed third before the split.

If you don’t think they “romped it” you’re only kidding yourself.

I'm not kidding anyone, they were by far the best of the rest last season. Would never argue otherwise, my point was that they got less points than us when we finished third the year before and yet we have people on here trying to say that we were one of the worst third place teams and downplaying the achievement to finish third the season before. In fact I'd hazard a guess that a lot of people on here would say last season's hearts team was a lot better than Ross's Hibs team who finished third despite us getting more points than them and despite the level of opposition last season being abysmal.

For any non old firm team 3rd place is a great achievement and, even if the football is dull, shouldn't be downplayed by people suggesting we were a poor third place despite the stats saying we were absolutely average.

[04Sauzee]

Tony Mowbray confirmed at Sunderland

[I'm Spartacus]

At Dundee United, I wonder if Tam Courts will return? He's having a shocker over there.

[easty]

At Dundee United, I wonder if Tam Courts will return? He's having a shocker over there.

Was he expected to do well? He took over a side who finished 2 points off relegation last season.

[Since452]

Tony Mowbray confirmed at Sunderland

What happened to Alex Neil?

[easty]

What happened to Alex Neil?

Went to Stoke

[Since452]

Went to Stoke

That completely passed me by

[Tambo]

Former Hibs striker Colin Nish has been appointed manager of Lowland League outfit Tranent Juniors.

[loanheadhibby]

Dreadful decision to sack Jack Ross. Same goes for Scott Parker and to a lesser extent Michael o'Neill.

Imagine giving your manager all summer to build a team only to sack him after a few poor results? Bizarre from those club owners.
Do you reckon JR would have turned things around at United?

[JamesHFC]

Tuchel leaves Chelsea.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely go for Zidane or Pochettino you’d think.

[J-C]

Tuchel leaves Chelsea.

I think there was behind the scenes things happening, players looked disinterested, he also comes over as a sour faced gimp.

[JamesHFC]

I think there was behind the scenes things happening, players looked disinterested, he also comes over as a sour faced gimp.

Even in Pre Season you could sense something was up. Zidane probably one of the favourites, am I right in saying he doesn't speak much English though?

[hibsbollah]

Tuchel leaves Chelsea.

He's a brilliant, obsessive manager. Will be a success somewhere else I would imagine.

[Scottie]

I think there was behind the scenes things happening, players looked disinterested, he also comes over as a sour faced gimp.
The boys had a bad year. Divorce now the sack. Things change very quickly in life. Players downed tools imo.

[J-C]

Even in Pre Season you could sense something was up. Zidane probably one of the favourites, am I right in saying he doesn't speak much English though?

Speaking little if any English is probably why he's not came here before now.

[Iain G]

Surely go for Zidane or Pochettino you’d think.

Surely they will approach Jack Ross? 😈

[Scouse Hibee]

He's a brilliant, obsessive manager. Will be a success somewhere else I would imagine.

Yeah definitely, typical of Chelsea, a poor couple of months and you’re out.

[JohnM1875]

Surely Graham Potter has to be in with a shout of the Chelsea job?

[J-C]

Surely Graham Potter has to be in with a shout of the Chelsea job?

You'd think so especially the way he's got Brighton playing but Chelsea will be looking for a big name.

[Bostonhibby]

Surely they will approach Jack Ross? [emoji48]I did think about Super Robbie being in with a shout but I dont think Chelski will see a gallant replay as being an achievement.

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[Scorrie]

Leipzig punted their manager as well today after last nights pumping

[Billy Whizz]

Tuchel leaves Chelsea.

They’ve just let him spend £200 million nett

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely they will approach Jack Ross? 😈

True. One of the top managers in the game :agree:

[jacomo]

True. One of the top managers in the game :agree:


He’s ruled himself out. Chelsea is too far from Northumberland.

[Billy Whizz]

Were they not talking last week of extending Tuchel’s contact at Chelsea?
New owners, same horrible club

[Hibernia&Alba]

Were they not talking last week of extending Tuchel’s contact at Chelsea?
New owners, same horrible club

That's the thing, I always thought Abramovic was responsible for the managerial sackings occurring so frequently, but maybe not? Chelsea have had an indifferent start, but it looks knee-jerk. Then again, we have no room to talk after Maloney. :offski:

[Billy Whizz]

That's the thing, I always thought Abramovic was responsible for the managerial sackings occurring so frequently, but maybe not? Chelsea have had an indifferent start, but it looks knee-jerk. Then again, we have no room to talk after Maloney. :offski:

We’ve both had around 10/11 managers since 2010
Difference is they sack managers after they’ve won trophies

[Callum_62]

Chelsea given permission to speak to Potter

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[Billy Whizz]

Chelsea given permission to speak to Potter

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Presume you mean the Brighton one
Wonder what Billy Gilmour makes of all of this

[Just_Jimmy]

Yeah definitely, typical of Chelsea, a poor couple of months and you’re out.I read that until last few weeks, they'd won 9 of the their last 19 at home.

I'm not a Chelsea fan but I can't say they ever seem like they're that great or on a run. I know he did well early on however.

I don't think the fans rated him either.

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[Iain G]

Presume you mean the Brighton one
Wonder what Billy Gilmour makes of all of this

Harry Potter and Robbie Replay dream team 😁

[CyberSauzee]

Chelsea given permission to speak to Potter

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Clear fav on betfair

[HibbyAndy]

Got to be going for Potter

[Iain G]

Clear fav on betfair

He is on a good thing at Brighton, he needs to look at Chelsea carefully as they are a bit of a basket case at times!

[The Modfather]

He is on a good thing at Brighton, he needs to look at Chelsea carefully as they are a bit of a basket case at times!

His stock is high now, rightfully so. All it takes is for Brighton to drop off, which is likely as difficult to keep punching above your weight. He might not get another chance to manage someone like Chelsea where money is no object. I think he probably has to take the job.

[Hibernia&Alba]

His stock is high now, rightfully so. All it takes is for Brighton to drop off, which is likely as difficult to keep punching above your weight. He might not get another chance to manage someone like Chelsea where money is no object. I think he probably has to take the job.

Yes, if offered the job, he will take it for sure. Not being a big name, he will need to produce immediate results or face pressure quickly. I'd imagine plenty of Chelsea fans would want a superstar replacement.

[bigwheel]

His stock is high now, rightfully so. All it takes is for Brighton to drop off, which is likely as difficult to keep punching above your weight. He might not get another chance to manage someone like Chelsea where money is no object. I think he probably has to take the job.

Will be a bit of a gamble for Chelsea this…no European experience …never worked at a big club. Great to see different names getting a chance though

[MWHIBBIES]

Will be a bit of a gamble for Chelsea this…no European experience …never worked at a big club. Great to see different names getting a chance though

He does have European experience. A very good run with Ostersund.

I think Potter is a bit of a star. Took a big leap going to Sweden, a really rough time for his family over there as well, and it's paid off. Billy Reid his assistant too.

[worcesterhibby]

Will be a bit of a gamble for Chelsea this…no European experience …never worked at a big club. Great to see different names getting a chance though

I REALLY rate Potter, but he is a manager that needs time to get players to buy into his ideas and mentality. He also has some off the wall methods that might be hard to sell to superstar premadonnas..we will see !

[bigwheel]

He does have European experience. A very good run with Ostersund.

I think Potter is a bit of a star. Took a big leap going to Sweden, a really rough time for his family over there as well, and it's paid off. Billy Reid his assistant too.

Ok. Some European experience. …but you get my point - still quite a gamble , for all parties tbh …nowhere near the CV of the head coaches they usually go for ..good to see some different thinking

[Dalianwanda]

Presume you mean the Brighton one
Wonder what Billy Gilmour makes of all of this

Was actually my first thought…..Then he’s quality so if potter does move any decent manager has to fancy him (you’d hope)

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Quite a journey for Billy Reid. Hamilton to Chelsea in what a decade?

[J-C]

Clear fav on betfair


Chelsea are going with the DOF structure and Tuchel was getting less and less involved in transfers, Potter works happily with a DOF and is known for his coaching making players better. It was clear things weren't right even during their summer tour of the States, then the comments about the players in recent games usually means your times up.

[HoboHarry]

Quite a journey for Billy Reid. Hamilton to Chelsea in what a decade?
Kyle McCauley tends to move with him too, originally from my hame toon, Elgin.....

[chippy]

I thought an outside bet could be Angie

[007]

I thought an outside bet could be Angie

Extremely outside bet. 😀
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[Iain G]

Extremely outside bet. 😀
https://i.ibb.co/f2zXz32/Angie-Watts.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Brian May? (Anita wouldn't!) 🤣

[007]

Brian May? (Anita wouldn't!) 🤣

Brian Did

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[Billy Whizz]

£20 million settlement fee to Brighton for Potter. Seemingly a world record for a Manager

[bingo70]

£20 million settlement fee to Brighton for Potter. Seemingly a world record for a Manager

Postecoglu favourite for the Brighton job.

[JohnM1875]

Postecoglu favourite for the Brighton job.

Pochettino was favourite when I last checked, either way can't see either going to Brighton, surely?

[HoboHarry]

Postecoglu favourite for the Brighton job.
Genuinely hope he stays at Celtic. Not that I want either of the ugly sisters here but if we have to have them then Postecoglu wiping his erse with Sevco is ok by me.

[Lago]

Postecoglu favourite for the Brighton job.
Think he'll hang off until Rogers is sacked at Leicester, might well be offered that gig.

[Steve20]

Genuinely hope he stays at Celtic. Not that I want either of the ugly sisters here but if we have to have them then Postecoglu wiping his erse with Sevco is ok by me.

Strange wanting Celtic to dominate, when they're as horrible as Rangers.

Too many Celtic likers in our support.

[hibsbollah]

Too many Celtic likers in our support.

Who judges that? You?

People can prefer whoever they like.

[HoboHarry]

Strange wanting Celtic to dominate, when they're as horrible as Rangers.

Too many Celtic likers in our support.
Away and get stuffed with your Celtic likers s***e. Did you read the post? Seemed pretty clear to me that I was saying I dislike Sevco far more than I like Celtic.

[Since452]

Strange wanting Celtic to dominate, when they're as horrible as Rangers.

Too many Celtic likers in our support.

If the alternative is Rangers dominating i'd rather Celtic did.

[grunt]

Potter is new Chelsea manager.

[J-C]

Potter is new Chelsea manager.


Great appointment as far as it's not one of the usual merry go round high profile managers, done a superb job at Brighton so let's hope he gets a fair crack at the Chelsea gig..

[cameronw-hfc]

If the alternative is Rangers dominating i'd rather Celtic did.

Same here. Dislike Celtic, hate rangers. For Scottish footballs sake I'd rather neither done we'll, but realistically for coefficient and the reality that one of the two will win the league, the lesser evil is Celtic. Especially when the other Scottish team in Europe this year is hearts.

I love seeing both the old firm lose, but my hatred for Rangers means I'd rather see Celtic do well.

[Since452]

Robbie Neilsons coat must be on a shoogly peg. 6 defeats in last 7. 3 wins in last 15.

[hibees 7062]

Robbie Neilsons coat must be on a shoogly peg. 6 defeats in last 7. 3 wins in last 15.

It felt like 6 wins though

[Gmack7]

Robbie Neilsons coat must be on a shoogly peg. 6 defeats in last 7. 3 wins in last 15.

Annie isn't sacking him anytime soon, he's there for a long time yet, thankfully

[Smartie]

A week in which Celtic then Rangers then Hearts all get absolutely horsed is pretty good though, right?

We can enjoy the moment and work on the coefficient again another time.

In attempt to address the thread title - I don’t think Robbie Neilson will take charge of another Edinburgh derby. They’re not great, and that’s an ugly looking run of fixtures for them.

[BILLYHIBS]

All of my jumbo chums want Robbie Replay gone

Hope he hangs on in there

Poor tonight

[bod]

Think the plane will be out again soon

[Oscar T Grouch]

The underlying hatred of Robbie Rotten has never really gone away in the jambos support, they've all just been biting their tongue as the results have been decent. You seen a bit of it surface when he was handed his new deal. Looking at the run they are on and the fixtures ahead there will be a lot of angry jambos over the next few months, which is nice :greengrin
I poked a few texts through to a jambo mate last night and never got a sniff back, that usually means he was proper angry. I reckon he'll be history before they play Fiorentina away on the 13th Oct.

[Gmack7]

All of my jumbo chums want Robbie Replay gone

Hope he hangs on in there

Poor tonight

🙏 for Robbie

[Hibiza]

Potter is new Chelsea manager.

Potters a great manager, however as always driven my the mighty dollar and be working with superdivas other than what he's became good at.

[MWHIBBIES]

Potters a great manager, however as always driven my the mighty dollar and be working with superdivas other than what he's became good at.

Who in the current Chelsea squad is a superdiva?

Perhaps just wants to work with some of the best in the world? Guys that won the European cup just over a year ago.

[jacomo]

Great appointment as far as it's not one of the usual merry go round high profile managers, done a superb job at Brighton so let's hope he gets a fair crack at the Chelsea gig..


I don’t think he will. I think he’s a great manager but he needs patience to coach his team in the way he wants them to play.

Chelsea don’t have patience. Chelsea want star managers to deliver immediate success.

I’m surprised Potter agreed to it… he’s got 4 months before he can make a single signing.

[Just_Jimmy]

I don’t think he will. I think he’s a great manager but he needs patience to coach his team in the way he wants them to play.

Chelsea don’t have patience. Chelsea want star managers to deliver immediate success.

I’m surprised Potter agreed to it… he’s got 4 months before he can make a single signing.He's got a 5 year deal on his terms because they wanted him.

Sacked and he'll get another job easy with a huge pay off.

Win win.

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[JimBHibees]

Who in the current Chelsea squad is a superdiva?

Perhaps just wants to work with some of the best in the world? Guys that won the European cup just over a year ago.

Aubamayang Sterling James Mount

[MWHIBBIES]

Aubamayang Sterling James Mount

Aubameyang, sure.

Others, really? Don't remember anything to suggest that. 3 excellent players

[JimBHibees]

Aubameyang, sure.

Others, really? Don't remember anything to suggest that. 3 excellent players

You maybe right. Something petulant about all three imo

[ScottB]

The claim is the new owners wanted a guy to develop the players and build something up.

Easier said than done mind you, but they’ve got a good guy for that job. Quite why they ran around spending as much money on Tuchel choices mere days before perhaps doesn’t quite fit that story mind you…

[Scorrie]

Some move for Billy Reid as well. From Accies to Chelsea

[Paulie Walnuts]

Aubameyang, sure.

Others, really? Don't remember anything to suggest that. 3 excellent players

Aubameyang is right up there with the worst of them imo.

The other 3 though, I’d agree. They all come across as decent pros.

[Since452]

Some move for Billy Reid as well. From Accies to Chelsea

It's finally come around for him. Sure he turned down a move to an EPL team when he was at Hamilton (might have been Swansea) and it went a bit pear shaped after that. He probably thought he'd missed his chance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

[marinello59]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

Sad but I’m sure he will always look back fondly on his time in sunny Portugal with them…………..and us. :greengrin

[Lancs Harp]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

Jeff Stelling a shoe in 😀

Edit to add Hartlepool havent won any of their previous 18 league games

[eastmainsmsh]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

Jack Ross to Hartlepool ?

[worcesterhibby]

Let's hope the next sacking is Goodwin

[Paulie Walnuts]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

No surprise after seeing them pre season.

Looked like a Lowland League side.

[bod]

Let's hope the next sacking is Goodwin

If Aberdeen are below us in the league & don’t win either cup I couldn’t care if he’s sacked or not

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Brendan Rodgers must be on a shoogelly now.

[J-C]

Brendan Rodgers must be on a shoogelly now.

He doesn't look happy but he's been dealt a bad hand by the board, sold a couple of good players and bought no real quality, I think he's looking for compensation rather than quitting.

[Donegal Hibby]

Brendan Rodgers must be on a shoogelly now.
Reading a article there.it says he's 4th highest paid manager in England only Conte, Guardiola and klopp paid more.Has near 3 years left on contract and it would cost Leicester away over 10 million to sack him .also said Leicester had over 120 Million debt

[bingo70]

He doesn't look happy but he's been dealt a bad hand by the board, sold a couple of good players and bought no real quality, I think he's looking for compensation rather than quitting.

Are Leicester not one of the British clubs named by UEFA for breaching financial fair play rules? I could be wrong but I think they’ve been given a period of time to sort their finances out.

Presumably that’s why they’ve not been active in the transfer market.

[J-C]

Are Leicester not one of the British clubs named by UEFA for breaching financial fair play rules? I could be wrong but I think they’ve been given a period of time to sort their finances out.

Presumably that’s why they’ve not been active in the transfer market.


That's the crux of the matter, since the original owners death, the club has went into decline money wise. This was probably due to winning the league and then trying to keep up with the big boys in the league, unless you have the financial backing, crowds are only around 35k and they've always been a mid table club, obviously the owners have stopped the investment, Rodgers has mentioned lack of investment recently.

[ancient hibee]

He doesn't look happy but he's been dealt a bad hand by the board, sold a couple of good players and bought no real quality, I think he's looking for compensation rather than quitting.

He doesn't need the money. Around the time he came to Celtic he was the half owner of a property company worth over £100million then.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jack Ross to Hartlepool ?

He’s being quite heavily linked with the job now.

[Since452]

Paul Hartley sacked by Hartlepool after just nine games

Doesn't come as a massive surprise. They were abysmal against us in Portugal. I know it was only a friendly but you can normally get a feel for things even that early.

[Billy Whizz]

He’s being quite heavily linked with the job now.

It’s on his doorstep, practically nothing to lose
Don’t know his compensation package from Dundee Utd though

[SHODAN]

Jack Ross to Hartlepool ?

That'll be an interesting one given when he was there pre-management he got homesick and refused to return to play for them.

[Lago]

That'll be an interesting one given when he was there pre-management he got homesick and refused to return to play for them.
But he's based in Ponteland now so he would almost on the doorstep.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s on his doorstep, practically nothing to lose
Don’t know his compensation package from Dundee Utd though

He’s got plenty to lose by going there imo. The players they had playing against us were absolutely abysmal, even for that level. A lot of them looked a couple of stone overweight.

They’ll go down I’d fancy and if he takes the job he’ll be the one taking them down. Would be the final nail in the coffin for his managerial career.

[Kato]

That'll be an interesting one given when he was there pre-management he got homesick and refused to return to play for them.If you are working in Hartlepool you get homesick for the 21st Century.

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[JohnM1875]

Think JR should take a bit of time away from management. He was a good pundit and wouldn't be short on offers to do that. Think Hartlepool would be a poor choice.

[worcesterhibby]

Think JR should take a bit of time away from management. He was a good pundit and wouldn't be short on offers to do that. Think Hartlepool would be a poor choice.

Not another pundit with a grudge against Hibs...!!!!

[jacomo]

He doesn't need the money. Around the time he came to Celtic he was the half owner of a property company worth over £100million then.


But he loves money so will want to keep on accruing as much of it as possible.

A lot of rich people have no idea when to stop.

[Lago]

But he loves money so will want to keep on accruing as much of it as possible.

A lot of rich people have no idea when to stop.
Usually because they're good at what they do

[brog]

Jack Ross to Hartlepool ?

He's already been offered it, 2nd time, and turned it down.

[Since452]

He's already been offered it, 2nd time, and turned it down.

I think he's way better than Hartlepool but he's going to have to try and rebuild his career somewhere.

[Jones28]

He's already been offered it, 2nd time, and turned it down.

That’s strange, I thought Hartlepool would be well within his very strict, 1 hour max commute from Northumberland that people on here bang on about.

[CropleyWasGod]

That’s strange, I thought Hartlepool would be well within his very strict, 1 hour max commute from Northumberland that people on here bang on about.

My Google Maps tells me 1 hour and 1 minute..... so that's that. :greengrin

[brog]

I think he's way better than Hartlepool but he's going to have to try and rebuild his career somewhere.

He was offered it before Hartley and again after Hartley but turned it down on both occasions.

[jacomo]

Usually because they're good at what they do


Not the point I was making but ok.

[Lago]

Not the point I was making but ok.
The point I'm making is they do know when to stop, but don't because they are good at it and successful OK.

[Donegal Hibby]

Celtic manager who's out in Australia was asked about the Leicester city job ,Strange considering Rodgers still there . Would imagine he would be one of the favourites to get it if job became available though would he want to take it ? Is another matter entirely.

[Lago]

Celtic manager who's out in Australia was asked about the Leicester city job ,Strange considering Rodgers still there . Would imagine he would be one of the favourites to get it if job became available though would he want to take it ? Is another matter entirely.
Why not, more money, bigger league with higher profile and exposure, let's be honest most managers or players would jump at a chance to move south or elsewhere.

[Paul1642]

Why not, more money, bigger league with higher profile and exposure, let's be honest most managers or players would jump at a chance to move south or elsewhere.

Champions league football with a great squad of players vs relegation battle at a club who showed no ambition in the last transfer window. He would get offers a Premiership job with much more change of success if he hides his time.

No brainier for me.

[overdrive]

Champions league football with a great squad of players vs relegation battle at a club who showed no ambition in the last transfer window. He would get offers a Premiership job with much more change of success if he hides his time.

No brainier for me.

I'm not so sure. Opinions on Scottish football are very low in England and I think clubs will be spooked by Gerrard being a flop at Villa so far.

[Donegal Hibby]

Champions league football with a great squad of players vs relegation battle at a club who showed no ambition in the last transfer window. He would get offers a Premiership job with much more change of success if he hides his time.

No brainier for me.
That's were I'm at too. They hadn't backed Rodgers ,sold a few of there better players and looks like they are going to struggle to stay up and as you said he's got a good gig were he is and he's not Daft either and will know this :agree:

[Lago]

That's were I'm at too. They hadn't backed Rodgers ,sold a few of there better players and looks like they are going to struggle to stay up and as you said he's got a good gig were he is and he's not Daft either and will know this :agree:
Exactly the same argument was made before Rogers moved and Gerrard for that matter.

[MWHIBBIES]

Champions league football with a great squad of players vs relegation battle at a club who showed no ambition in the last transfer window. He would get offers a Premiership job with much more change of success if he hides his time.

No brainier for me.

Leicester had to move players on. Still have a much better squad than Rogers is showing.

What offers do you think he'll get? Leicester is a very good gig.

[Donegal Hibby]

Exactly the same argument was made before Rogers moved and Gerrard for that matter.
Different situations though imo .Rodgers spent over 100million 2019 . Had a decent squad too . Of late Leicester city have sold some of there better players without backing rodgers .Maybe the 120 million debt has something to do with it. They are losing over 3 goals a game . Bottom of league . I think Ange postecoglou is to smart to switch from a club that's winning leagues,cups and going to have champions League football every year with a really good team to a team that appears to be in a bit of turmoil.

[SHODAN]

United are going to appoint Fox.

[Donegal Hibby]

United are going to appoint Fox.
Seems to me they are taking a massive gamble here if that's who they appoint as manager

[SHODAN]

Seems to me they are taking a massive gamble here if that's who they appoint as manager

Think they've blown the budget on Ross and have no other choice.

[mcohibs]

United are going to appoint Fox.

Matter of time before he's hounded out.

[Smartie]

Matter of time before he's hounded out.

He's already in a bit of a hole.

[CropleyWasGod]

He's already in a bit of a hole.

He says he's vixen it.

[Donegal Hibby]

Matter of time before he's hounded out.
Scary times if your Dundee Utd fan , Bottom of league , Budget maybe blown and about to appoint a guy that's only other managerial jobs been a year at Cowdenbeath. All a recipe for disaster I think.

[DaveF]

Not sure it's that much of a risk. He seems to be well liked by the players who are putting a shift in for him, unlike their efforts under Ross.

[Callum_62]

Used to play against Foxy when I was younger - he was at Hearts, I was at Celtic

[Donegal Hibby]

Not sure it's that much of a risk. He seems to be well liked by the players who are putting a shift in for him, unlike their efforts under Ross.
Players liking him doesn't make him a good manager though does it? Always think a team gets a lift when a new manager comes as Dundee Utd have had. Remains to be seen if that will last too. If I was a Utd fan I'd want a older experienced manager in to drag the club out of the mess there in not a inexperienced one that's only managed a year at a lower division team.Lets face it he's a rookie manager taken over a team that are bottom of the league and in serious trouble .couldn't be a worse job for a rookie manager imo and a massive risk taken by Dundee Utd due to where they sit in the league.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

United were taking a gamble when they appointed Tam Courts, and that didn't play out too badly. I got the impression that they appointed Jack Ross, based on what the so called experts were saying rather than him being the stand out candidate.

[Donegal Hibby]

United were taking a gamble when they appointed Tam Courts, and that didn't play out too badly. I got the impression that they appointed Jack Ross, based on what the so called experts were saying rather than him being the stand out candidate.
Utd did take a gamble with Courts no doubt about it and as you said didn't play out so bad Though who would have thought 2 of the top five teams in the league would have been so bad ( us and Dons) maybe for argument sake you could say he was a bit lucky on that front . Honestly I didn't think Utd were that good under him and not entertaining either.38% win rate too not great .what happened Ross there was surprising thought he'd make them hard to beat if I'm honest.Id still if I were a Utd fan prefer a experienced manager to a Rookie one in there current situation .

[pacoluna]

Used to play against Foxy when I was younger - he was at Hearts, I was at Celtic

Do you want a blue Peter badge

[Bobby's Cinema]

United were taking a gamble when they appointed Tam Courts, and that didn't play out too badly. I got the impression that they appointed Jack Ross, based on what the so called experts were saying rather than him being the stand out candidate.
He had a bit of a point to prove sacked the week before a cup final and would have been the obvious choice and seen as a safe pair of hands for any club in the Scottish Premiership. Not sure that reputation will go much further now though. But still probably get in at another bottom 6 club in future.

[Libby Hibby]

United are going to appoint Fox.

Very sly appointment

[HoboHarry]

Very sly appointment
More cunning I think.......

[scuttle]

Very sly appointment

Thought he'd be more at home at Dens

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Thought he'd be more at home at Dens

The Glaciers at Man United might think he is mint.

[Bridge hibs]

Do you want a blue Peter badgeIm not getting the pun here

[Donegal Hibby]

Im not getting the pun here
i Tod that too!!

[Eyrie]

I think he'll brush off our concerns.

[HoboHarry]

The Glaciers at Man United might think he is mint.

That was funny....:top marks

[leith lynx]

Very sly appointment

Indeed, could be a fantastic one, or a james hunt one.

[Smartie]

United were taking a gamble when they appointed Tam Courts, and that didn't play out too badly. I got the impression that they appointed Jack Ross, based on what the so called experts were saying rather than him being the stand out candidate.

Or rather than him being the choice of the senior players?

[Lago]

Watford sack their manager after only 11 games into the season.

[Hibee Ryan]

United were taking a gamble when they appointed Tam Courts, and that didn't play out too badly. I got the impression that they appointed Jack Ross, based on what the so called experts were saying rather than him being the stand out candidate.

Maybe I'm a little out of the loop but why did United let Courts walk for free in the summer, when he had done a decent job in his first season?

[Since452]

Maybe I'm a little out of the loop but why did United let Courts walk for free in the summer, when he had done a decent job in his first season?

Probably the same reason they let Mellon walk after one season after keeping them up comfortably. Think there are serious issues at that club.

[HoboHarry]

Probably the same reason they let Mellon walk after one season after keeping them up comfortably. Think there are serious issues at that club.
Both sides could also have had release clauses in the contract....

[ian cruise]

Maybe I'm a little out of the loop but why did United let Courts walk for free in the summer, when he had done a decent job in his first season?

There was a chat that Courts thought he was getting a big job abroad and wanted out of his contract. Can't remember the finer details I'm afraid.

[Donegal Hibby]

Watford sack their manager after only 11 games into the season.
Think they have appointed slaven bilic as new manager?

[Lago]

Think they have appointed slaven bilic as new manager?
They have 👍

[Donegal Hibby]

Think Forrest green were very unhappy the way Watford approached there manager(guy just sacked). Slaven bilic will need to start winning quickly seems to be a ruthless owner there!

[Hibee Ryan]

Probably the same reason they let Mellon walk after one season after keeping them up comfortably. Think there are serious issues at that club.

if their wages to turnover ratio is still as bad as it was in their last accounts then they are in big trouble if the American decides to stop funding it at any point.

[cameronw-hfc]

There was a chat that Courts thought he was getting a big job abroad and wanted out of his contract. Can't remember the finer details I'm afraid.

Currently the manager of Budapest Honvéd

[eastmainsmsh]

Mark Fotheringham to get Huddersfield job

[Donegal Hibby]

Mark Fotheringham to get Huddersfield job
Seems a strange choice for them ,Has he managed before?

[JimBHibees]

Seems a strange choice for them ,Has he managed before?

Very strange

[Donegal Hibby]

I was reading a article about Paul Hartleys sacking apparently the Hartlepool chairman knew nothing about him prior to his appointment.He wasn't there first choice but another another manager in scotland who had been successful there was.when they phoned the agent of the mystery manager .They were told he was happy in Scotland and that's when they turned to Hartley. Wonder who other guy was? Maybe Kevin Thomson?

[eastmainsmsh]

Seems a strange choice for them ,Has he managed before?

Don’t think so seems highly thought off by Felix Magath maybe going the route they did with Wagner

[Onceinawhile]

Seems a strange choice for them ,Has he managed before?

No, but he is leaving his post as assistant at Hertha Berlin. So it's not like he doesn't have pretty decent experience.

[brog]

I was reading a article about Paul Hartleys sacking apparently the Hartlepool chairman knew nothing about him prior to his appointment.He wasn't there first choice but another another manager in scotland who had been successful there was.when they phoned the agent of the mystery manager .They were told he was happy in Scotland and that's when they turned to Hartley. Wonder who other guy was? Maybe Kevin Thomson?

Jack Ross was offered it before PH, and again after PH.

[Donegal Hibby]

No, but he is leaving his post as assistant at Hertha Berlin. So it's not like he doesn't have pretty decent experience.
He might turn out to be a really good manager , who knows . Was checking up were his new club were in the league .He's got a job on his hands alright they are second bottom of championship.

[Donegal Hibby]

Jack Ross was offered it before PH, and again after PH.
Forgot all about Ross to be honest with you:embarrass

[Donegal Hibby]

If you were to guess the next managerial dismissals one in Scotland and one in England , who would you guess it would be ? I'd go for Fox Dundee Utd maybe and Rodgers of Leicester city .probably the two most obvious choices I think.

[HoboHarry]

If you were to guess the next managerial dismissals one in Scotland and one in England , who would you guess it would be ? I'd go for Fox Dundee Utd maybe and Rodgers of Leicester city .probably the two most obvious choices I think.
I think Goodwin will be gone before Fox is....

[Donegal Hibby]

I think Goodwin will be gone before Fox is....
I wouldn't rule it out either.i just opted for Fox as he's fairly new to the managers game at a club struggling for results that's bottom of the league and appears to be in a bit of a mess imo. Have nothing personally against Fox btw .Though Goodwin's a really shout . Personally I normally don't take any pleasure out of a manager losing his job though in Goodwin's case I'd make a exception :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

I heard out of the last 12 Watford managers ,the longest has lasted 66 days or something close . Surely has to be wrong you would think? If it isn't slaven bilic must be a very brave man to take that job or a wee bit :crazy: