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The Modfather
24-04-2023, 04:51 PM
Tough job. They are the Harry Kane team and there’s not a lot left when he goes in the summer. What does the new manager have to work with? Son, probably Romero & Kulisevski. Maybe Holjberg and/or Bisouma. Can’t think of much else. Crazy when you think they have spent £180m this season.

They are probably best going for another Pochetino type and grow another successful team from youth. Although for all they are a shambles they are still 5th. Which is about right.

jacomo
24-04-2023, 04:51 PM
Speaking of interims, surely Barry Robson will get appointed on a permanent basis at Aberdeen? Their turnaround this year has been quite something.

Trinity Hibee
24-04-2023, 04:54 PM
Speaking of interims, surely Barry Robson will get appointed on a permanent basis at Aberdeen? Their turnaround this year has been quite something.

Has to. Never seen an interim manager with the record he has. Some transformation.

MWHIBBIES
24-04-2023, 04:57 PM
Spurs sack Christian Stellini

BBC Sport

What a shambles. That's their decent spell well and truly over. A real golden period for them, the highlight being the zero trophies they won of course.

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 05:00 PM
What a shambles. That's their decent spell well and truly over. A real golden period for them, the highlight being the zero trophies they won of course.

I thought you loved them?

MWHIBBIES
24-04-2023, 05:03 PM
I thought you loved them?

I thought they were title challengers?

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 05:04 PM
I thought they were title challengers?

Predicting a league table and declaring love for a team are two totally different things. Just a bit curious as to why you declared that love for a team you clearly despise?

MWHIBBIES
24-04-2023, 05:09 PM
Predicting a league table and declaring love for a team are two totally different things. Just a bit curious as to why you declared that love for a team you clearly despise?

I believe I may have been joking?

I don't despise spurs at all. They're a terrific laugh. Too harmless to despise.

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 05:13 PM
I believe I may have been joking?

I don't despise spurs at all. They're a terrific laugh. Too harmless to despise.

Strange thing to joke about but whatever makes you happy sir.

HoboHarry
24-04-2023, 05:13 PM
Sack the interim coach and give it to the other coach. FFS and LOL.

JimBHibees
24-04-2023, 05:26 PM
Think they’re without a DoF just now as well aren’t they?

Doubt they’ll want him but I think Postecoglu would be a great appointment for them. That sort of high energy attacking football is what they need after the last couple of boring teams they’ve had.

Would be surprised if he wasn't being considered given the job he has done at Celtic.

jacomo
24-04-2023, 05:30 PM
What a shambles. That's their decent spell well and truly over. A real golden period for them, the highlight being the zero trophies they won of course.


The problem is at the top. If Levy remains as chairman it’s hard to see them achieving their potential.

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 05:34 PM
The problem is at the top. If Levy remains as chairman it’s hard to see them achieving their potential.

Hiring that criminal as DOF then standing by him as he was charged was total incompetence. My wife is Italian and her family are big Inter fans so I’ve always had a liking towards Conte & Mourinho. Hopefully going to go to one of the CL semi final legs in a few weeks. Sacking Mourinho before a cup final to save a few pennies was madness.

Carheenlea
24-04-2023, 05:38 PM
If Rangers lose the next Old Firm game, or suffer further defeats post split, I can see Beale being the next Scottish Premier League casualty.

Steven79
24-04-2023, 05:45 PM
If Rangers lose the next Old Firm game, or suffer further defeats post split, I can see Beale being the next Scottish Premier League casualty.Please let it be us!

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The Modfather
24-04-2023, 05:55 PM
The problem is at the top. If Levy remains as chairman it’s hard to see them achieving their potential.

What is their potential? Top 4 and a champions league final is probably their ceiling is it not? Maybe a domestic cup once a decade or so. Not saying they are being well run, but not sure what more they should expect than the last 5 or 10 years.

Lago
24-04-2023, 05:59 PM
The problem is at the top. If Levy remains as chairman it’s hard to see them achieving their potential.
He seems to want to micto manage every aspect of the club.

Paulie Walnuts
24-04-2023, 06:54 PM
If Rangers lose the next Old Firm game, or suffer further defeats post split, I can see Beale being the next Scottish Premier League casualty.

His record is outstanding.

If they do it then it’ll be because they’re comparing themselves with Celtic who they’re not going to be able to keep pace with whilst they’re playing like this and spending as they are.

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 07:03 PM
He seems to want to micto manage every aspect of the club.

He was a director of Rangers during their years of cheating.

JamesHFC
24-04-2023, 07:12 PM
If Rangers lose the next Old Firm game, or suffer further defeats post split, I can see Beale being the next Scottish Premier League casualty.

Can they afford to sack him? Elite a brand partner of Hummel taking them to court over for almost £10m. Being sued for almost £2m for withdrawing from some friendly competition. Chairman, Sporting Director, Head of communications & director have all left within the past 12 months. Kent & Morelos leaving for nothing. Something isn’t right.

ErinGoBraghHFC
24-04-2023, 07:14 PM
Can they afford to sack him? Elite a brand partner of Hummel taking them to court over for almost £10m. Being sued for almost £2m for withdrawing from some friendly competition. Chairman, Sporting Director, Head of communications & director have all left within the past 12 months. Kent & Morelos leaving for nothing. Something isn’t right.

I know, it’s hilarious


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J-C
24-04-2023, 07:17 PM
Spurs sack Christian Stellini

BBC Sport


The guy was Conte's no.2 and changed sod all, he kept the same shape and tactics as Conte and basically getting the same performances, what made them think he could change things.

overdrive
24-04-2023, 08:54 PM
Surely Hearts must have done it a few times during the Romanov era.

Pretty sure Sevco did during the first Championship season with Kenny McDowall. Or did he resign?

Iain G
24-04-2023, 09:34 PM
Has to. Never seen an interim manager with the record he has. Some transformation.

Ole at Man U maybe, and that worked out well in the long term 😁

Since452
26-04-2023, 06:50 AM
Don't think he'll be sacked but the boy JDT who was in a head to head with LJ for the Hibs job has had a pretty mediocre season at Blackburn. They'd have been targeting promotion I'd have thought. Sitting 8th.

Iain G
26-04-2023, 07:28 AM
Will Lampard be sacked twice in one season? 😁

Paulie Walnuts
26-04-2023, 07:38 AM
Don't think he'll be sacked but the boy JDT who was in a head to head with LJ for the Hibs job has had a pretty mediocre season at Blackburn. They'd have been targeting promotion I'd have thought. Sitting 8th.

8th place would be Blackburns best league finish in over a decade since they got relegated from the EPL.

CapitalGreen
26-04-2023, 07:40 AM
Don't think he'll be sacked but the boy JDT who was in a head to head with LJ for the Hibs job has had a pretty mediocre season at Blackburn. They'd have been targeting promotion I'd have thought. Sitting 8th.

11 games without defeat followed by 8 games without a win.

Streaky Jon.

Mcbizz1998
26-04-2023, 07:42 AM
8th place would be Blackburns best league finish in over a decade since they got relegated from the EPL.

Yep and still an opportunity for the play offs with the potential of a winner takes all final game at The Den v Millwall.

heretoday
27-04-2023, 07:44 AM
Will Lampard be sacked twice in one season? 😁

His financial advisor must be rubbing his hands with glee.

J-C
27-04-2023, 07:49 AM
Will Lampard be sacked twice in one season? 😁

Goes a lot deeper than Lampard, they're after Pochettino so expect big changes in the summer, Lampard is a cheap option till then by keeping it ticking over.

Kato
27-04-2023, 08:08 AM
Can they afford to sack him? Elite a brand partner of Hummel taking them to court over for almost £10m. Being sued for almost £2m for withdrawing from some friendly competition. Chairman, Sporting Director, Head of communications & director have all left within the past 12 months. Kent & Morelos leaving for nothing. Something isn’t right.Sounds tickity-boo to me.

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Iain G
27-04-2023, 08:16 AM
His financial advisor must be rubbing his hands with glee.

Frankie! Frankie! So good they sacked him twice 🤣

Iain G
27-04-2023, 08:17 AM
Goes a lot deeper than Lampard, they're after Pochettino so expect big changes in the summer, Lampard is a cheap option till then by keeping it ticking over.

5 losses out of 5 isnt really ticking anything 🤣 should have stuck with Potter til the end of the season.

Eyrie
27-04-2023, 09:14 AM
5 losses out of 5 isnt really ticking anything 🤣 should have stuck with Potter til the end of the season.

I think that makes him the continuity candidate for Chelsea. Five wins out of five would create a problem in replacing the interim, at least with their fans.

Billy Whizz
27-04-2023, 09:17 AM
Goes a lot deeper than Lampard, they're after Pochettino so expect big changes in the summer, Lampard is a cheap option till then by keeping it ticking over.

New owner seems to be dabbling too much

jacomo
27-04-2023, 10:03 AM
The guy was Conte's no.2 and changed sod all, he kept the same shape and tactics as Conte and basically getting the same performances, what made them think he could change things.


They weren’t trying to change anything until the summer.

Conte’s relationship with the club had totally broken down (Conte blew it up, really - he had clearly had enough). Yet Spurs can somehow still finish top 4. Stellini’s job was to try and pick up as many points as possible in the remaining matches.

His big mistake was to change shape and tactics against Newcastle… it went horribly wrong.

overdrive
01-05-2023, 09:25 AM
Barry Robson appointed Aberdeen manager.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65432607

No real surprise given how he's done whilst in interim charge.

jacomo
01-05-2023, 09:33 AM
Barry Robson appointed Aberdeen manager.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65432607

No real surprise given how he's done whilst in interim charge.


Absolutely.

Probably sacked by December though.

NORTHERNHIBBY
01-05-2023, 10:06 AM
Barry Robson appointed Aberdeen manager.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65432607

No real surprise given how he's done whilst in interim charge.

Wonder what the noise would have been from the Sheepies, had he be listed as a permanent candidate choice when Goodwin got hooked.

Donegal Hibby
02-05-2023, 09:08 AM
I do wonder did Leicester make the right call in removing Brendan Rodgers when they did?

BILLYHIBS
02-05-2023, 09:19 AM
Leeds United in talks with Sam Allardyce to replace Javi Gracia

BBC Sport

Since452
02-05-2023, 09:22 AM
Barry Robson appointed Aberdeen manager.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65432607

No real surprise given how he's done whilst in interim charge.

I might be wrong but can see them struggling next season. European football until Christmas will impact them hugely in the league and although Robson has had a very impressive run, that's all it could be. It's a risk for Aberdeen. A few dodgy results post split and there will be a few nervous sheepies.

ancient hibee
02-05-2023, 11:32 AM
I do wonder did Leicester make the right call in removing Brendan Rodgers when they did?

Consistently left out the two goal scorers last night.

Alex Trager
02-05-2023, 11:40 AM
I might be wrong but can see them struggling next season. European football until Christmas will impact them hugely in the league and although Robson has had a very impressive run, that's all it could be. It's a risk for Aberdeen. A few dodgy results post split and there will be a few nervous sheepies.

I reckon he won’t last long at all. But they would be mad not to give him it based on his form.

We shall see

Highwayman
02-05-2023, 11:44 AM
Jody Morris sacked at Swindon Town after 18 games in charge.

jacomo
02-05-2023, 12:11 PM
New owner seems to be dabbling too much


New owner seems to be a total t***.

Donegal Hibby
02-05-2023, 12:46 PM
Consistently left out the two goal scorers last night.
Don't know the reasons he done that but think Rodgers had finished 5th twice with Leicester and only imo of course is a better manager than Dean Smith.

Paulie Walnuts
02-05-2023, 01:34 PM
Why is everyone convinced Robson will be a failure :confused:

bingo70
02-05-2023, 01:42 PM
Why is everyone convinced Robson will be a failure :confused:

Are they? Think there’s only two people who have raised the possibility.

I suspect the answer to your question though is that it’s relatively common for caretakers to get a job, look good but when it is made permanent, not be as good as they were when caretaker.

Don’t ask me to name any examples but it’s my perception of the caretaker manager turning permanent.

Paulie Walnuts
02-05-2023, 01:53 PM
Are they? Think there’s only two people who have raised the possibility.

I suspect the answer to your question though is that it’s relatively common for caretakers to get a job, look good but when it is made permanent, not be as good as they were when caretaker.

Don’t ask me to name any examples but it’s my perception of the caretaker manager turning permanent.

They’ve maybe said it a few times then as I feel like I’ve read it on here quite a few times :greengrin

It’s a cert Robson won’t leave as good as manager as he has caretaker, that sort of record would be impossible for both the old firm to maintain in a season. Everything he’s shown so far though would point to him actually being quite good.

cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2023, 06:41 PM
500k for the remaining four games Sam Allardyce in advanced talks to take over from Javi Gracia as Leeds manager | Leeds United | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/02/sam-allardyce-leeds-talks-javi-gracia-manager) gtf



Director of football Victor Orta has left by mutual consent.


at long last :agree: the long list of utter dross that man has been allowed to spend huge amounts of £££ on is horrendous

Iain G
02-05-2023, 08:31 PM
500k for the remaining four games Sam Allardyce in advanced talks to take over from Javi Gracia as Leeds manager | Leeds United | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/02/sam-allardyce-leeds-talks-javi-gracia-manager) gtf



Director of football Victor Orta has left by mutual consent.


at long last :agree: the long list of utter dross that man has been allowed to spend huge amounts of £££ on is horrendous

But Big Crooked Sam!? What a mess they are in.

He's here!
03-05-2023, 11:38 AM
But Big Crooked Sam!? What a mess they are in.

I thought he'd retired? I guess 70-something Hodgson has worked out well at Palace (he's had a great managerial career after all) but it does smack of desperation when clubs so often turn to the old guard. Does Allardyce get the gig fill time if he keeps them up?

Steven79
03-05-2023, 11:41 AM
I thought he'd retired? I guess 70-something Hodgson has worked out well at Palace (he's had a great managerial career after all) but it does smack of desperation when clubs so often turn to the old guard. Does Allardyce get the gig fill time if he keeps them up?Why would he want the gig full time when he's getting half a million for 4 games and £2.5 million if he keeps them up.

Another desperate club may come calling this time next year...

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JimBHibees
03-05-2023, 11:42 AM
500k for the remaining four games Sam Allardyce in advanced talks to take over from Javi Gracia as Leeds manager | Leeds United | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/02/sam-allardyce-leeds-talks-javi-gracia-manager) gtf



Director of football Victor Orta has left by mutual consent.


at long last :agree: the long list of utter dross that man has been allowed to spend huge amounts of £££ on is horrendous

The Guardian link is brilliant. Last line there would usually be a role for Sammy Lee but he is currently on jury service :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
03-05-2023, 01:13 PM
But Big Crooked Sam!? What a mess they are in.

they are, lord knows what will happen in the summer whether relegated or not, the owner is interested in a partnership in buying Inter Milan but if leeds get relegated the 49ers will want to take over with a much reduced price tag, they have the option to own the club 100% by jan 2024 he only has himself to blame he put far too much trust in Victor Orta, Unai Emery was the choice to take over at leeds but Orta faffed about determined to keep Marsch, Emery ended up going to Villa and the rest is history :(



The Guardian link is brilliant. Last line there would usually be a role for Sammy Lee but he is currently on jury service :greengrin


i didn't read all that article, wee shame :) he's probably lost out on a few hundred grand for a couple of weeks work

offshorehibby
03-05-2023, 03:31 PM
Leeds are my English team and I'm not holding out much hope for them. Their run in is Man C, Newcastle, West Ham and Spurs.

Steven79
03-05-2023, 03:34 PM
Leeds are my English team and I'm not holding out much hope for them. Their run in is Man C, Newcastle, West Ham and Spurs.At least they are certs to win the last game of the season. [emoji1787]

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Lago
03-05-2023, 04:59 PM
Leeds are my English team and I'm not holding out much hope for them. Their run in is Man C, Newcastle, West Ham and Spurs.
Pretty much dead in the water I'm afraid.

Billy Whizz
03-05-2023, 05:34 PM
Leeds are my English team and I'm not holding out much hope for them. Their run in is Man C, Newcastle, West Ham and Spurs.

Obscene money for big Sam, although I know the cost of losing their place in the Premier League is colossal

JimBHibees
03-05-2023, 05:53 PM
Pretty much dead in the water I'm afraid.

Not sure Spurs at home last game looks like a certain three points

Iain G
03-05-2023, 08:20 PM
I thought he'd retired? I guess 70-something Hodgson has worked out well at Palace (he's had a great managerial career after all) but it does smack of desperation when clubs so often turn to the old guard. Does Allardyce get the gig fill time if he keeps them up?

If Allardyce, was twice the price, of Hodgson, would you take Steve Bruce? But who needs Allardyce, I'd rather Mark Hughes...

Steven79
06-05-2023, 09:47 AM
Son is playing in Lenzie this morning and I saw someone just ahead of us that I recognised from the back.

It was Jim Goodwin and he turned round to see me with a Hibs top on as we are heading to Edinburgh after his game

Was tempted to ask him about the 6-0 game or Ryan Porteous.

[emoji1787]

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Donegal Hibby
08-05-2023, 01:57 PM
Read in the Sun that Gary Bowyer is in the frame for the Blackpool job with Dundee lining up Callum Davidson as new manager .

Billy Whizz
08-05-2023, 02:08 PM
Read in the Sun that Gary Bowyer is in the frame for the Blackpool job with Dundee lining up Callum Davidson as new manager .

Did he not manage Blackpool before?

Donegal Hibby
08-05-2023, 02:12 PM
Did he not manage Blackpool before?
He did manage them in 2016 and won promotion . Wonder would Callum Davidson take Dundee job? Massive rebuilding job needs done there to have any chance of staying up .

GreenNWhiteArmy
08-05-2023, 03:32 PM
He did manage them in 2016 and won promotion . Wonder would Callum Davidson take Dundee job? Massive rebuilding job needs done there to have any chance of staying up .

He'd make them solid defensively at least. Admittedly it's based only on watch the QP game on Friday but there wasn't a whole lot defending going on

Donegal Hibby
08-05-2023, 04:19 PM
He'd make them solid defensively at least. Admittedly it's based only on watch the QP game on Friday but there wasn't a whole lot defending going on
Think he would tighten up there defense which going by the QP game was awful . For Dundee to stand any chance in staying up next year they would need to invest quite a bit of money in basically a new squad imo . Not sure the Dundee board will tbh personally think the Dundee jobs a bit of a poison chalice if it becomes available.

Smartie
08-05-2023, 07:44 PM
He did manage them in 2016 and won promotion . Wonder would Callum Davidson take Dundee job? Massive rebuilding job needs done there to have any chance of staying up .

A blank canvas can be a great starting point.

SHODAN
10-05-2023, 10:31 AM
Read in the Sun that Gary Bowyer is in the frame for the Blackpool job with Dundee lining up Callum Davidson as new manager .

He's now left.

superfurryhibby
10-05-2023, 10:52 AM
He did manage them in 2016 and won promotion . Wonder would Callum Davidson take Dundee job? Massive rebuilding job needs done there to have any chance of staying up .

Dundee are a club that should be playing in our top league. They're better supported than the likes of Livi, Ross County, St Johnstone and probably have more potential than the likes of St Mirren or Motherwell. Growing up , early 70's they were still a force in Scottish football. They seem to have been poorly managed and run for decades though. Davidson would be a decent appointment for them

Donegal Hibby
10-05-2023, 11:29 AM
Dundee are a club that should be playing in our top league. They're better supported than the likes of Livi, Ross County, St Johnstone and probably have more potential than the likes of St Mirren or Motherwell. Growing up , early 70's they were still a force in Scottish football. They seem to have been poorly managed and run for decades though. Davidson would be a decent appointment for them
They should be playing in the top flight and probably are better supported than Livvy, at Johnstone and maybe have more potential than at mirren or Motherwell though these are all clubs that have fairly good and experienced SPL squad's .

Dundee's got a squad that I read have 20 players are coming out of contract which is probably a good thing as the current squad aren't good enough imo which leaves a massive rebuilding job for the new manager and I'd doubt the Dundee board will provide suitable funds to keep them up next year as well .

I think Gary Bowyer is being quite clever in leaving at the right time as a hero that got them promoted before the **** hits the fan . Callum Davidson would be a great appointment for Dundee though I don't think Dundee are a good choice of club for him in all fairness.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-and-hibs-premiership-rivals-part-company-with-boss-just-hours-after-manger-of-the-year-award-win-4136794

GreenGray
10-05-2023, 11:31 AM
A blank canvas can be a great starting point.

Not for Davidson I would say, most St Johnstone fans will tell you it was when he started having to replace players is when he struggled. Isn’t known for his recruitment, although with Strachan there might be better.


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Since452
10-05-2023, 11:40 AM
Sure Jack Ross is a Dundee fan. Wonder if he'd be tempted. The Newcastle gig he has is a good one though especially with him still being based in the north east with his family.

Donegal Hibby
10-05-2023, 11:48 AM
Sure Jack Ross is a Dundee fan. Wonder if he'd be tempted. The Newcastle gig he has is a good one though especially with him still being based in the north east with his family.
I think Newcastle only gave him a short contract . He would be another good option for them imo. Wonder will Robbie neilson be considered for it ? 🤔

oneone73
10-05-2023, 11:52 AM
Sure Jack Ross is a Dundee fan. Wonder if he'd be tempted. The Newcastle gig he has is a good one though especially with him still being based in the north east with his family.

Don't think Dundee fans would be too enamoured with a failed Dundee United manager.

Since452
10-05-2023, 11:53 AM
I think Newcastle only gave him a short contract . He would be another good option for them imo. Wonder will Robbie neilson be considered for it ? 🤔

Neilson is definitely being spoken about up here in Dundee. So is Lennon but not sure what he's up to or if he'd be interested.

NC1875
10-05-2023, 11:59 AM
Sure Dundee have 20 players out of contract come the summer. Clean slate for someone if they’re given funds.

Donegal Hibby
10-05-2023, 12:30 PM
Neilson is definitely being spoken about up here in Dundee. So is Lennon but not sure what he's up to or if he'd be interested.
Haven't heard much about lennon though I'd doubt he would be interested in the Dundee job tbh . Imagine the anger in Gorgie if Dundee beat hertz with neilson in charge. 😂

cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2023, 03:05 PM
Neil Lennon having discussions with Olympiakos

could also possibly be an opening for the Leicester job at end of season


Source EEN

Highwayman
10-05-2023, 03:54 PM
Have John Potter and Kelty Hearts parted company ?

Noted various managers/coaches with previous Hibs connections are with teams who’ve been relegated.Who’s next to go with for example :-

Paul Hartley (Cove Rangers)

Shaun Maloney (Wigan Athletic)

Derek Adams (Morecambe)

Maybe more I’m not aware and when playoffs are settled.

Donegal Hibby
10-05-2023, 09:05 PM
I thought Bowyer had left for another job and had been clever in getting out at the right time though this article puts a totally different spin on things . Strange going on's at Dundee I think.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/international/sacked-bowyer-ready-to-stay-on-at-dundee-and-asked-to-be-backed-but-dens-park-hierarchy-preferred-a-new-broom-4137663

CapitalGreen
10-05-2023, 09:46 PM
Have John Potter and Kelty Hearts parted company ?

Noted various managers/coaches with previous Hibs connections are with teams who’ve been relegated.Who’s next to go with for example :-

Paul Hartley (Cove Rangers)

Shaun Maloney (Wigan Athletic)

Derek Adams (Morecambe)

Maybe more I’m not aware and when playoffs are settled.

John Potter is apparently becoming DoF at Raith Rovers.

cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2023, 10:38 PM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years

SteveHFC
10-05-2023, 11:33 PM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years

Will be sacked by August.

DaveF
11-05-2023, 05:38 AM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years

Wilder for Hearts perhaps?

JimBHibees
11-05-2023, 05:57 AM
Wilder for Hearts perhaps?

Assume he could do much better than them

Tyler Durden
11-05-2023, 07:54 AM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years

Ismaels brand of football is awful. Total failure at WBA. Strange appointment but Watford are a basket case

CapitalGreen
11-05-2023, 07:58 AM
Wilder for Hearts perhaps?

Favourite for the Reading job.

Hiber-nation
11-05-2023, 08:01 AM
Ismaels brand of football is awful. Total failure at WBA. Strange appointment but Watford are a basket case

Watched a bit of one of West Brom's games early in the season. One of the worst examples of prehistoric defensive long ball garbage I've ever seen. Bizarre appointment by as you say, a basket case of a football club.

bingo70
11-05-2023, 08:11 AM
Wilder for Hearts perhaps?

He’s been ***** in his last two jobs so I hope so. Appreciate there’s mitigating factors for the Watford job but even still, he’s not someone who’s career is on the way up.

The only reason some Hearts fans want him is he’s been to a few of their games, including a recent semi final on a supporters bus.

GreenNWhiteArmy
11-05-2023, 08:18 AM
I thought Bowyer had left for another job and had been clever in getting out at the right time though this article puts a totally different spin on things . Strange going on's at Dundee I think.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/international/sacked-bowyer-ready-to-stay-on-at-dundee-and-asked-to-be-backed-but-dens-park-hierarchy-preferred-a-new-broom-4137663

This section stood out for me. Crazy

"Meanwhile, the Dundee first-team squad, just three of whom are still contracted to the club beyond this season"

Alex Trager
11-05-2023, 08:47 AM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years
Did Wilder not just take over about two months ago?

On reflection, maybe not the best place for Porto to go.

Wild club

Dunbar Hibee
11-05-2023, 08:48 AM
He’s been ***** in his last two jobs so I hope so. Appreciate there’s mitigating factors for the Watford job but even still, he’s not someone who’s career is on the way up.

The only reason some Hearts fans want him is he’s been to a few of their games, including a recent semi final on a supporters bus.

He’s odds on for the Reading job

Donegal Hibby
11-05-2023, 08:57 AM
This section stood out for me. Crazy

"Meanwhile, the Dundee first-team squad, just three of whom are still contracted to the club beyond this season"
Young talented player's like Lyall Cameron coming out of contract at them as well . Something not right behind the scenes at Dundee I think .

Lago
11-05-2023, 09:14 AM
Did Wilder not just take over about two months ago?

On reflection, maybe not the best place for Porto to go.

Wild club
With hindsight he was in too much of a hurry to leave Hibs, should of had the patience to wait for summer.

CallumLaidlaw
11-05-2023, 09:15 AM
With hindsight he was in too much of a hurry to leave Hibs, should of had the patience to wait for summer.

Think we were more than happy for him to go.


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007
11-05-2023, 10:20 AM
Think we were more than happy for him to go.


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Got a fee and perhaps more importantly, a sell-on clause.

Paulie Walnuts
11-05-2023, 10:25 AM
Got a fee and perhaps more importantly, a sell-on clause.

And seen an upturn in our form.

Worked out well for everybody really.

Springbank
11-05-2023, 10:58 AM
And seen an upturn in our form.

Worked out well for everybody really.

I remember having a conversation with Tony Mowbray, shortly after he took the Hibs job (and he was like an open book in those days, a tremendously engaging man to talk with)

He had a thing to say about his squad back then, that maybe chimes with the Ryan Porteous situation this season.

Back then, Mowbray was saying that, in his first training session with the young squad, he thought Grant Brebner looked like the best midfielder on the books right there, but, he said he felt (in his own judgement) that the younger lads coming through (the Thomson, Brown, Whittaker, Riordan, O'Connor team) would develop quicker and be better quicker, if he got rid of Brebner, as the overall dynamic in the squad wasn't right.

He was probably right.

Highwayman
11-05-2023, 11:02 AM
new Watford coach Watford: Valerien Ismael appointed head coach following departure of Chris Wilder at Vicarage Road | Football News | Sky Sports (https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12878038/watford-valerien-ismael-appointed-head-coach-following-departure-of-chris-wilder-at-vicarage-road)

19th in 11 years

Is Porteous running up some sort of record for managers he’s been involved with since turning professional. Must be into double figures now.

Donegal Hibby
13-05-2023, 07:47 PM
Pochettino agrees to become new Chelsea manager.

Stokesy's on fire
13-05-2023, 07:49 PM
Robsons interview with Aberdeen TV strikes me as very bitter and upset he will be mentioned in this thread early next season

bingo70
13-05-2023, 08:48 PM
Robsons interview with Aberdeen TV strikes me as very bitter and upset he will be mentioned in this thread early next season

I thought that too.

Really grudging in giving any credit at all to Hibs.

Stokesy's on fire
14-05-2023, 05:13 AM
I thought that too.

Really grudging in giving any credit at all to Hibs.

Yup tried to play down the meaning of the match for them when it was actually their celebration day. I can't see Robson lasting for me I expect him to be the first manager to get sacked next season.

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2023, 01:14 PM
Robsons interview with Aberdeen TV strikes me as very bitter and upset he will be mentioned in this thread early next season
Didn't see it but read this article were he says the emotions of the game lead to his team playing badly and was the reason for there hamstring injuries 😆 , couldn't have anything to do with the fact Hibs were by far the better team and ran you ragged at times Barry 🤔.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/barry-robson-insists-aberdeen-emotions-26912257

HFC93
14-05-2023, 01:20 PM
What's the latest with Hearts manager search? I haven't been paying attention. Presume Naismith won't get it.

GreenPJ
14-05-2023, 01:30 PM
What's the latest with Hearts manager search? I haven't been paying attention. Presume Naismith won't get it.

I suspect if they get 4th or above he will get the gig.

ChilliEater
14-05-2023, 01:33 PM
Didn't see it but read this article were he says the emotions of the game lead to his team playing badly and was the reason for there hamstring injuries 😆 , couldn't have anything to do with the fact Hibs were by far the better team and ran you ragged at times Barry 🤔.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/barry-robson-insists-aberdeen-emotions-26912257

I'd never been aware of the link between emotions and hamstrings before :confused::faf: That's quite a bizarre interview.

Billy Whizz
14-05-2023, 01:33 PM
I suspect if they get 4th or above he will get the gig.

I think he’ll get it too, although he’s a horrible little man

weecounty hibby
14-05-2023, 01:38 PM
I think he’ll get it too, although he’s a horrible little man
Perfect fit for them then

Billy Whizz
14-05-2023, 01:39 PM
Perfect fit for them then

Absolutely, means we have reasons to hate them even more

Frazerbob
14-05-2023, 01:42 PM
My Jambo pals seem quite happy with his more direct style of play, compared to Captain Caveman's borefest. I hope he gets the gig, he'll be a disaster IMHO.

A Hi-Bee
14-05-2023, 01:49 PM
Absolutely, means we have reasons to hate them even more

:faf: **** the hertz
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2023, 01:51 PM
I'd never been aware of the link between emotions and hamstrings before :confused::faf: That's quite a bizarre interview.
There will be quite a few physio's scratching there heads over that one , I hope they don't get all emotional and do there hamstrings 😂😂😂

Since452
14-05-2023, 01:55 PM
My Jambo pals seem quite happy with his more direct style of play, compared to Captain Caveman's borefest. I hope he gets the gig, he'll be a disaster IMHO.

Hearts and a direct style. It's the Hearts way.

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2023, 02:25 PM
Hearts and a direct style. It's the Hearts way.
Hoofball with a touch of geganpressing .

DH1875
15-05-2023, 03:06 PM
See that Owen Coyle has left Queens Park.

Donegal Hibby
15-05-2023, 03:14 PM
See that Owen Coyle has left Queens Park.
Wonder who they will go for now ?

NORTHERNHIBBY
15-05-2023, 03:29 PM
Wonder who they will go for now ?

The only chance that a Championship side have of winning the League next season , is if Ross County go down and none of the other Championship teams go up through the play offs.

Iain G
15-05-2023, 04:34 PM
Wonder who they will go for now ?

Must be Jack Ross's turn?

007
15-05-2023, 04:46 PM
I'd never been aware of the link between emotions and hamstrings before :confused::faf: That's quite a bizarre interview.

And some people think LJ talks sh*te.

Highwayman
17-05-2023, 10:59 AM
I was being mocked at the weekend by a fellow hibbie for suggesting that Tony Mowbray’s job at Sunderland could be under threat.
My suggestion was based on Sunderland’s past policies thus:-
(1) If Sunderland failed in the playoffs he could go.
(2) If Sunderland succeeded in gaining access to the Premiership,board could be looking for a higher profile manager.
My amigo’s opinion was there was no way Mowbray would be losing his job.
My point one happened last night.and now reports are emerging that Mowbray is on his way out and that Sunderland are lining up candidates.
Also noted that Sol Bamba is being suggested for managers job at Cardiff City.

ChilliEater
17-05-2023, 11:18 AM
And some people think LJ talks sh*te.

That's because he does :wink::greengrin - but yes, Robson came out with a whole new level of sh*te there

Smartie
17-05-2023, 11:21 AM
I was being mocked at the weekend by a fellow hibbie for suggesting that Tony Mowbray’s job at Sunderland could be under threat.
My suggestion was based on Sunderland’s past policies thus:-
(1) If Sunderland failed in the playoffs he could go.
(2) If Sunderland succeeded in gaining access to the Premiership,board could be looking for a higher profile manager.
My amigo’s opinion was there was no way Mowbray would be losing his job.
My point one happened last night.and now reports are emerging that Mowbray is on his way out and that Sunderland are lining up candidates.
Also noted that Sol Bamba is being suggested for managers job at Cardiff City.

Mowbray's done brilliantly at Sunderland and been well received by the fans, in spite of Middlesborough allegiances which can sometimes make things slightly tricky there.

If they got rid of him after that season then it would suggest that they're keen to get back to being a basket case club again asap.

He looks like he needs a transfer window to get a bit of brawn into that team and one or two of the loan players will be hard to replace but he's very much on the right track there.

Donegal Hibby
17-05-2023, 11:36 AM
I was being mocked at the weekend by a fellow hibbie for suggesting that Tony Mowbray’s job at Sunderland could be under threat.
My suggestion was based on Sunderland’s past policies thus:-
(1) If Sunderland failed in the playoffs he could go.
(2) If Sunderland succeeded in gaining access to the Premiership,board could be looking for a higher profile manager.
My amigo’s opinion was there was no way Mowbray would be losing his job.
My point one happened last night.and now reports are emerging that Mowbray is on his way out and that Sunderland are lining up candidates.
Also noted that Sol Bamba is being suggested for managers job at Cardiff City.
There was only 2 ways it could have went for him in the play-offs tbh he was either going to get the promoted or miss out and both situations going by Sunderland's recent history with managers his job would have more than likely been in some doubt. Mowbray only signed a two-year deal In 2022 so if they want rid it won't cost much either.

Sunderland have been linked with some Italian manager recently and Southampton are supposedly looking at Mowbray to replace there manager. I thought Mowbray summed everything up last night perfectly in they were simply up against a bigger more physical team who simply out muscled them .

Think they would be making a mistake if they get rid of Mowbray as I think he is a good manager and given the right backing could very well get Sunderland promoted next season, will they stick with him though ? . I very much doubt it now .
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23527661.tony-mowbray-future-doubt---adam-armstrong-rubbishes-rumours/

superfurryhibby
17-05-2023, 11:36 AM
Mowbray's done brilliantly at Sunderland and been well received by the fans, in spite of Middlesborough allegiances which can sometimes make things slightly tricky there.

If they got rid of him after that season then it would suggest that they're keen to get back to being a basket case club again asap.

He looks like he needs a transfer window to get a bit of brawn into that team and one or two of the loan players will be hard to replace but he's very much on the right track there.

Mowbray's done a good job, play off place in the first season in the \Championship has got to be decent. He's got a good track record with promotion (WBA twice, Sunderland). His job seems pretty safe to me.

w pilton hibby
17-05-2023, 11:36 AM
I was being mocked at the weekend by a fellow hibbie for suggesting that Tony Mowbray’s job at Sunderland could be under threat.
My suggestion was based on Sunderland’s past policies thus:-
(1) If Sunderland failed in the playoffs he could go.
(2) If Sunderland succeeded in gaining access to the Premiership,board could be looking for a higher profile manager.
My amigo’s opinion was there was no way Mowbray would be losing his job.
My point one happened last night.and now reports are emerging that Mowbray is on his way out and that Sunderland are lining up candidates.
Also noted that Sol Bamba is being suggested for managers job at Cardiff City.

Mentioned at the end of this article.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23525901.tony-mowbrays-sunderland-side-evoking-memories-magic-hibs-team/

cabbageandribs1875
17-05-2023, 05:47 PM
Callum Davidson has turned down the Dundee Job, he was expected to take over after having talks but has changed his mind

Donegal Hibby
17-05-2023, 05:53 PM
Callum Davidson has turned down the Dundee Job, he was expected to take over after having talks but has changed his mind
Think he's made the right move tbh . Wonder who they will turn to now ? Maybe neilson ? .
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65612700

bingo70
17-05-2023, 06:25 PM
Callum Davidson has turned down the Dundee Job, he was expected to take over after having talks but has changed his mind

Makes no odds to me really but I’m really pleased Davidson isn’t going to Dundee. His St Johnstone teams were so boring and negative, I’m please if Dundee go for someone who brings a bit more excitement to Scotland.

Stokesy's on fire
20-05-2023, 08:47 PM
More embarrassing stuff from Barry Robson after his Aberdeen team lost today that guys unhinged

GreenGray
20-05-2023, 08:49 PM
More embarrassing stuff from Barry Robson after his Aberdeen team lost today that guys unhinged

Always thought the wheels would come off fairly quickly for him. Can’t see him lasting long there


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JohnM1875
20-05-2023, 10:00 PM
Always thought the wheels would come off fairly quickly for him. Can’t see him lasting long there


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No idea why they didn't wait til the end of the season before appointing a permanent manager, obviously glad they didn't.

ian cruise
20-05-2023, 10:08 PM
Always thought the wheels would come off fairly quickly for him. Can’t see him lasting long there


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Absolutely has the feel of an appointment that will last no more than 12 months. Same for Naismith if he's given the role permanently.

Itsnoteasy
22-05-2023, 02:29 PM
I think he’ll get it too, although he’s a horrible little man

On the field yes. But off it he does a ton of charity work

Paulie Walnuts
22-05-2023, 02:32 PM
On the field yes. But off it he does a ton of charity work

Given what he apparently said to Nisbet at Hampden when he missed the penalty I’d suggest he’s a horrible rat ******* full stop.

Itsnoteasy
22-05-2023, 02:55 PM
Given what he apparently said to Nisbet at Hampden when he missed the penalty I’d suggest he’s a horrible rat ******* full stop.

If true, yes your spot on.

MikeyS
22-05-2023, 03:06 PM
On the field yes. But off it he does a ton of charity work

So did Jimmy Saville!

jacomo
22-05-2023, 03:41 PM
Always thought the wheels would come off fairly quickly for him. Can’t see him lasting long there




Pretty much as soon as he signed the permanent contract!

:faf:

04Sauzee
23-05-2023, 10:50 AM
Ian Murray linked with the Dundee job, seems to be the strong favourite.

Hamish
23-05-2023, 11:04 AM
[QUOTE=04Sauzee;7355774]Ian Murray linked with the Dundee job, seems to be the strong favourite.[/QUO

Been impressed with his after match videos at Raith, seems to know what is required at Championship level. Not sure if Dens Park is what he should be considering.

Donegal Hibby
23-05-2023, 05:09 PM
Daily record apparently saying hertz looking at John Kennedy along with Steven Naismith as manager.

Since452
23-05-2023, 05:42 PM
Daily record apparently saying hertz looking at John Kennedy along with Steven Naismith as manager.

Hopefully. Will stop him being linked to us every time we change manager.

SHODAN
27-05-2023, 05:10 PM
That's Goodwin been appointed permanently at United.

bingo70
27-05-2023, 05:12 PM
That's Goodwin been appointed permanently at United.

From the outside looking in I find that quite mental. He’s had a nightmare with them.

I'm Spartacus
27-05-2023, 05:26 PM
That's Goodwin been appointed permanently at United.

Oh my goodness, a 2 year deal too. Wow!

Donegal Hibby
27-05-2023, 05:27 PM
Dundee Utd fans most have been thinking "things can't really get much worse" O ...... Wait 😳😂

Pedantic_Hibee
27-05-2023, 05:46 PM
Dundee Utd fans most have been thinking "things can't really get much worse" O ...... Wait 😳😂

Whatever happened to Jackie O? Was that her surname? O? Just O?

SHODAN
27-05-2023, 05:50 PM
Dundee Utd fans most have been thinking "things can't really get much worse" O ...... Wait ����

You would think but the reaction on Twitter, at least from what I can see, is fairly neutral.

bingo70
27-05-2023, 05:51 PM
Dundee Utd fans most have been thinking "things can't really get much worse" O ...... Wait 😳😂

Apparently his points per game ratio would have had them in 8th place across the season.

Stevie Reid
27-05-2023, 06:20 PM
Apparently his points per game ratio would have had them in 8th place across the season.

His PPG is 1.0, Kille are currently in 10th with 37.

That PPG may well be better than his predecessors this season, I don’t know (though I don’t think they were bottom when Fox left?) - but his side has totally crumbled in the games that matter most, and it’s cost them.

I’d be surprised if many Utd fans are massively enthused by this appointment.

LunasBoots
27-05-2023, 06:24 PM
With D Utd it shows how much being in Europe stuffed them at the beginning of the season

GreenNWhiteArmy
29-05-2023, 11:11 AM
Tony Docherty, who's spent most his career as Derek McInnes' assistant has just been appointed manager of Dundee

SHODAN
29-05-2023, 11:36 AM
Tony Docherty, who's spent most his career as Derek McInnes' assistant has just been appointed manager of Dundee

That's an interesting one.

BILLYHIBS
29-05-2023, 12:04 PM
Pochettino confirmed as new Chelsea Manager

2 year deal from 1st July

BBC Sport

Since452
29-05-2023, 12:09 PM
From the outside looking in I find that quite mental. He’s had a nightmare with them.

I thought he'd improved them a bit to be honest.

HFC93
29-05-2023, 12:15 PM
With D Utd it shows how much being in Europe stuffed them at the beginning of the season

Can Dundee Utd blame 2 European games 9 months ago for getting relegated? Not sure about that

Wilson
29-05-2023, 12:31 PM
That's Goodwin been appointed permanently at United.

It's good timing for him. They can't keep hiring and firing. They need to back an appointment so he is in at the right time. I think Goodwin could do okay freshening up the squad down a division. Time will tell.

WhileTheChief..
29-05-2023, 12:58 PM
Tony Docherty, who's spent most his career as Derek McInnes' assistant has just been appointed manager of Dundee

Saw that on the Sky Sports News ticker thing and immediately thought, who?!

I thought Robbie Nielson might have been in with a shout at Dens.

CapitalGreen
29-05-2023, 01:02 PM
Apparently his points per game ratio would have had them in 8th place across the season.

His PPG is based on 12 matches that includes 3 games v Livi and no games v Celtic or Hearts.

WhileTheChief..
29-05-2023, 01:20 PM
With Steven MacLean being confirmed as St Johnstone's manager and both Dundee clubs now sorted, is it just Hearts looking to make a permanent appointment now? And Queens Park potentially.

Not seen any chat around the Hearts job other than betting odds which have Naismith as the clear favourite. Had a quick look on Kickback and they seem to be split on whether to stick with him or not. Saw a few names like Gerard and Neil being mentioned but mostly wishful thinking.

Donegal Hibby
29-05-2023, 01:39 PM
Tony Docherty, who's spent most his career as Derek McInnes' assistant has just been appointed manager of Dundee
He couldn't have picked a much harder job for his first managers gig imo

Since452
29-05-2023, 02:23 PM
I expect Dundee to go straight back down next season.

JimBHibees
29-05-2023, 03:03 PM
That's an interesting one.

Very interesting didn’t see that coming. Been with Del for years

JimBHibees
29-05-2023, 03:04 PM
With Steven MacLean being confirmed as St Johnstone's manager and both Dundee clubs now sorted, is it just Hearts looking to make a permanent appointment now? And Queens Park potentially.

Not seen any chat around the Hearts job other than betting odds which have Naismith as the clear favourite. Had a quick look on Kickback and they seem to be split on whether to stick with him or not. Saw a few names like Gerard and Neil being mentioned but mostly wishful thinking.

Gerrard or Neil they really are deluded. Rat boy will get it

Donegal Hibby
29-05-2023, 05:13 PM
I expect Dundee to go straight back down next season.
Agree , think they will struggle badly next season along with St Johnstone , Livingston and either partick or Ross county.

Donegal Hibby
30-05-2023, 10:52 AM
I see Christophe Berra has left Livingston . Martindale didn't want to lose him though said it was down to financial losses and they had to make cutbacks.

bingo70
31-05-2023, 02:18 PM
Postecoglu to Spurs really gathering pace.

I don’t doubt there’d be a snobbish attitude towards it from the English however he’d be a really good appointment for them I think. Exactly what they need to get them back playing attractive attacking football again.

Wonder who Celtic would go for to replace him, Rodger’s wouldn’t go back or be welcome back so no obvious replacement I don’t think.

SHODAN
31-05-2023, 02:23 PM
Postecoglu to Spurs really gathering pace.

I don’t doubt there’d be a snobbish attitude towards it from the English however he’d be a really good appointment for them I think. Exactly what they need to get them back playing attractive attacking football again.

Wonder who Celtic would go for to replace him, Rodger’s wouldn’t go back or be welcome back so no obvious replacement I don’t think.

Rodgers would absolutely go back and they would absolutely have him back.

brianmc
31-05-2023, 02:23 PM
Postecoglu to Spurs really gathering pace.

I don’t doubt there’d be a snobbish attitude towards it from the English however he’d be a really good appointment for them I think. Exactly what they need to get them back playing attractive attacking football again.

Wonder who Celtic would go for to replace him, Rodger’s wouldn’t go back or be welcome back so no obvious replacement I don’t think.

There was a fair bit of snobbery in Scotland when Ange was appointed as well if I remember correctly.

bingo70
31-05-2023, 02:24 PM
There was a fair bit of snobbery in Scotland when Ange was appointed as well if I remember correctly.

Yeah, good point.

bingo70
31-05-2023, 02:25 PM
Rodgers would absolutely go back and they would absolutely have him back.

There’s still a lot of bitterness there about the timing when he left. I don’t think there’s any chance he would go back there.

JimBHibees
31-05-2023, 02:34 PM
There was a fair bit of snobbery in Scotland when Ange was appointed as well if I remember correctly.

Very brave he came in alone with no back up staff says a lot about his self belief. Has done an amazing job. English teams absolutely should be looking at him.

ScottB
31-05-2023, 03:31 PM
Couple quite big jobs going in England; Palace, Leeds, Leicester etc that would make things difficult for Celtic you’d think. I imagine the likes of Rodgers, Potter etc will all find new gigs if they want them.

Donegal Hibby
31-05-2023, 04:03 PM
Read a article saying Leeds players want big Sam to remain as manager though if he doesn't Steven Gerrard was mentioned.

Smartie
01-06-2023, 01:04 PM
Sounds like Postecoglu might be away?

Good day for the huns if that’s true.

Dmas
01-06-2023, 01:28 PM
Sounds like Postecoglu might be away?

Good day for the huns if that’s true.

Some of the dross you see on social media with spurs fans writing him off is unbelievable, someone was on talksport today saying they should be getting Michael carrick guys barely got half a seasons experience under his belt no wonder they never win anything that lot

Since452
01-06-2023, 01:32 PM
Brendan Rodgers back to Celtic a no brainer surely? Wonder if the fans who crucified him for leaving will welcome him back?

Steve20
01-06-2023, 02:32 PM
Postecoglu wins the lot here because he has multiple times the budget of everyone, including Rangers. That allows him to just go attack attack attack, as he knows they've got the better players.

He'd be found out trying that in England with Spurs, just like it was hopeless for him in the Champions League.

He's done well here, but he's not proved he'd be any good in the EPL, despite the media, and on here it seems, falling over themselves at him.

Callum_62
01-06-2023, 02:35 PM
Postecoglu wins the lot here because he has multiple times the budget of everyone, including Rangers. That allows him to just go attack attack attack, as he knows they've got the better players.

He'd be found out trying that in England with Spurs, just like it was hopeless for him in the Champions League.

He's done well here, but he's not proved he'd be any good in the EPL, despite the media, and on here it seems, falling over themselves at him.It's a bit simplistic though

Lennon also had a massive budget a few years ago and they were a mile off it

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NORTHERNHIBBY
01-06-2023, 02:39 PM
Postecoglu wins the lot here because he has multiple times the budget of everyone, including Rangers. That allows him to just go attack attack attack, as he knows they've got the better players.

He'd be found out trying that in England with Spurs, just like it was hopeless for him in the Champions League.

He's done well here, but he's not proved he'd be any good in the EPL, despite the media, and on here it seems, falling over themselves at him.


A Manager needs to manage a team in the EPL to prove that they would be any good surely? Heckingbottom has managed to take a team from Championship to the EPL and now he has a chance to prove that he will be good in that division, but he wasn't so great up here.

easty
01-06-2023, 02:47 PM
Postecoglu wins the lot here because he has multiple times the budget of everyone, including Rangers. That allows him to just go attack attack attack, as he knows they've got the better players.

He'd be found out trying that in England with Spurs, just like it was hopeless for him in the Champions League.

He's done well here, but he's not proved he'd be any good in the EPL, despite the media, and on here it seems, falling over themselves at him.

I agree, strolling it up here doesn't mean he's a bad manager...but it's not evidence you'll be a good manager in a more competitive league.

Player recruitment has a lot to do with success, and it does seem like he's been heavily involved in the recruitment at Celtc. However, would he be allowed that same level of input at Spurs? Also, the players who he's got playing so well here wouldn't look half as good in the EPL. Maybe you'd have Jota and Kyogo on the bench at Spurs. So, being able to find players for a few million quid each that can stand out in the SPL is important for Celtc, but it's not a transferable skill for Spurs. The level of player is higher, they cost a lot more, and the competition - on the pitch and for players - is far greater.

Hibernia&Alba
01-06-2023, 03:42 PM
Brendan Rodgers back to Celtic a no brainer surely? Wonder if the fans who crucified him for leaving will welcome him back?

I seriously doubt he would be welcomed back, given he jumped ship at the first opportunity. He would be a good appointment, though.

bingo70
02-06-2023, 07:09 AM
Phil Neville sacked by Inter Miami.

Got to think that would be an appealing job for whoever they go for, rumours of them buying Messi and sending him on loan to Barca.

Hibernia&Alba
02-06-2023, 08:16 AM
Allardyce has left Leeds.

Steven79
02-06-2023, 08:27 AM
Allardyce has left Leeds.Nice little earner for him...

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Smartie
02-06-2023, 08:54 AM
Some of the dross you see on social media with spurs fans writing him off is unbelievable, someone was on talksport today saying they should be getting Michael carrick guys barely got half a seasons experience under his belt no wonder they never win anything that lot

I did see a very funny tweet from a Celtic fan outraged at the disrespect being shown towards Postecoglu from the Spurs fans, claiming they were simply repeating his own insults from 2 years ago.

Donegal Hibby
04-06-2023, 01:51 PM
Steven Gerrard getting linked with the Leicester city job . Fans not keen on the idea at all .

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/131816-manager-for-the-championship-rebuild-who-do-you-want/page/121/#comments

Lago
04-06-2023, 05:49 PM
Offical approach to Celtic for Ange from Spurs

Bridge hibs
04-06-2023, 06:02 PM
Offical approach to Celtic for Ange from Spurs

Wonder how long his contract is with celtc, no doubt they will get a healthy compensation

Trinity Hibee
04-06-2023, 06:03 PM
Wonder how long his contract is with celtc, no doubt they will get a healthy compensation

Is it not 12 month rolling? So probably nothing

Bridge hibs
04-06-2023, 06:04 PM
Is it not 12 month rolling? So probably nothing

Now that would be funny 😀

Billy Whizz
04-06-2023, 06:04 PM
Wonder how long his contract is with celtc, no doubt they will get a healthy compensation

Rolling 12 months I believe, so not a hefty compensation package
No idea how much Celtic pay their managers though. Think I heard they got £7m from Leicester when Rodgers went to them

Trinity Hibee
04-06-2023, 06:05 PM
Postecoglou arrived at Celtic on a one-year rolling contract in June 2021 and it is believed that he is still under a one-year rolling contract. His salary is reportedly in the region of £2 million a year.

Bridge hibs
04-06-2023, 06:06 PM
Rolling 12 months I believe, so not a hefty compensation package
No idea how much Celtic pay their managers though. Think I heard they got £7m from Leicester when Rodgers went to them

£7m for a Manager wow 😵

Steve20
04-06-2023, 06:45 PM
Rodgers back to Celtic?

Donegal Hibby
04-06-2023, 06:52 PM
Rodgers back to Celtic?
He's apparently just bought a house in Glasgow. His appointment wouldn't go down well with a lot of Celtic fans though.

JamesHFC
04-06-2023, 06:52 PM
Celtic fans getting another reality check, quite funny tbh.

Trinity Hibee
04-06-2023, 07:22 PM
He's apparently just bought a house in Glasgow. His appointment wouldn't go down well with a lot of Celtic fans though.

Seems an obvious candidate although it sounds like Moyes is the front runner. Don’t think the fans would be happy with that though.

In all seriousness, the are in the CL groups so surely could attract a good up and coming manager with euro experience?

bingo70
04-06-2023, 07:26 PM
Seems an obvious candidate although it sounds like Moyes is the front runner. Don’t think the fans would be happy with that though.

In all seriousness, the are in the CL groups so surely could attract a good up and coming manager with euro experience?

I don’t see why Rogers would go back to them. I think he’s only being mentioned as there’s no obvious other front runners.

I think they’ll go for someone from left field like they did with Postecoglu.

FWIW I’m pleased he is leaving them as I really like him, I prefer it when they’ve got someone I can’t stand.

JamesHFC
04-06-2023, 07:31 PM
Seems an obvious candidate although it sounds like Moyes is the front runner. Don’t think the fans would be happy with that though.

In all seriousness, the are in the CL groups so surely could attract a good up and coming manager with euro experience?

Knutsen would surely fit the Ange mould.

Pretty Boy
04-06-2023, 07:34 PM
Ultimately it comes down to your place in the pecking order. Celtic fans went nuts when Tierney and Rodgers left too, calling them traitors and whatever.

It's a sad fact that with maybe a handful of exceptions any EPL job is bigger than any job in Scotland now and that's been the case for some time. If Everton, West Ham or Brighton came in for him then Ange would have gone there too. Spurs is a no brainer. Big job but a high ceiling with the money that stadium is generating for them among other things.

Pretty Boy
04-06-2023, 07:36 PM
Seems an obvious candidate although it sounds like Moyes is the front runner. Don’t think the fans would be happy with that though.

In all seriousness, the are in the CL groups so surely could attract a good up and coming manager with euro experience?

Would Moyes leave West Ham to go to Celtic? That's a step down.

Trinity Hibee
04-06-2023, 07:37 PM
Would Moyes leave West Ham to go to Celtic? That's a step down.

Might go before he’s sacked early next season. No idea to be honest but don’t think it’s a stretch

Trinity Hibee
04-06-2023, 07:40 PM
Knutsen would surely fit the Ange mould.

Not a bad shout

bingo70
04-06-2023, 07:45 PM
Knutsen would surely fit the Ange mould.

How has his team been doing recently? Was a time he was a being tipped for every job going but not heard him mentioned for a while.

CapitalGreen
04-06-2023, 07:54 PM
How has his team been doing recently? Was a time he was a being tipped for every job going but not heard him mentioned for a while.

Top of the league by 8 points after 10 rounds of fixtures. Only dropped 2 points this season.

Donegal Hibby
04-06-2023, 08:00 PM
Seems an obvious candidate although it sounds like Moyes is the front runner. Don’t think the fans would be happy with that though.

In all seriousness, the are in the CL groups so surely could attract a good up and coming manager with euro experience?
One of the bookies also had Steve Clarke as favourite. Don't think the Scottish fans would want to lose him considering the good job he's done though I did read he was a Celtic fan so maybe that's a possibility too?

Nicho87
04-06-2023, 09:22 PM
I think Steve Clarke wouldn’t want the drama that went with the Celtic job

Did he not say once he left killie he wouldn’t miss the bigotry of club football coming against the uglies or words to that effect.

Wasn’t fussed for him before but would be a massive loss for Scotland now.

Either way I can’t see it happening

Stevie Reid
04-06-2023, 09:27 PM
He's apparently just bought a house in Glasgow. His appointment wouldn't go down well with a lot of Celtic fans though.

I find it hard to believe that many Celtic fans would turn their noses up at Rodgers returning. Firstly, they could do with someone who will be as close to a guarantee of success as possible, with Rangers performing so well under Beale - Rodgers would be that.

Secondly, football fans can have short memories. Look at how Scott Allan left us, and how he was welcomed back a very short time later.

Rodgers needs to rebuild his reputation again now as well. He does seem an obvious choice, but wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to look further afield.

Hibernia&Alba
04-06-2023, 09:32 PM
I think Rodgers returning to Celtic would be a good move for both parties, but some of the fans wouldn't like it.

Eyrie
04-06-2023, 10:48 PM
I find it hard to believe that many Celtic fans would turn their noses up at Rodgers returning. Firstly, they could do with someone who will be as close to a guarantee of success as possible, with Rangers performing so well under Beale - Rodgers would be that.

Secondly, football fans can have short memories. Look at how Scott Allan left us, and how he was welcomed back a very short time later.

Rodgers needs to rebuild his reputation again now as well. He does seem an obvious choice, but wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to look further afield.

It took time for Allan to win a number of us round when he returned. Rodgers wouldn't be judged on beating Ross County or Hearts, but on European progress and Ugly Sister bigot-fests and the fact that he left Celtc previously will raise the bar for many fans when it comes to judging him.

Donegal Hibby
05-06-2023, 10:49 AM
I find it hard to believe that many Celtic fans would turn their noses up at Rodgers returning. Firstly, they could do with someone who will be as close to a guarantee of success as possible, with Rangers performing so well under Beale - Rodgers would be that.

Secondly, football fans can have short memories. Look at how Scott Allan left us, and how he was welcomed back a very short time later.

Rodgers needs to rebuild his reputation again now as well. He does seem an obvious choice, but wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to look further afield.
I think he's a very good manager and they couldn't get much better tbh though there is a lot that dislike him for the way he left and don't want him back at all . If he came in and does well I'm sure things would be forgotten though the first sign of a blip and It will turn toxic for him I feel .

I think it will be Rodgers that will get it as it looks like Ange posteglou to spurs is a goer . Even though spurs are a massive club and with all the money that's done in England I do wonder if he's taking over spurs at a very bad time and might come to regret going down there !

Trinity Hibee
05-06-2023, 11:07 AM
I think he's a very good manager and they couldn't get much better tbh though there is a lot that dislike him for the way he left and don't want him back at all . If he came in and does well I'm sure things would be forgotten though the first sign of a blip and It will turn toxic for him I feel .

I think it will be Rodgers that will get it as it looks like Ange posteglou to spurs is a goer . Even though spurs are a massive club and with all the money that's done in England I do wonder if he's taking over spurs at a very bad time and might come to regret going down there !

Have to agree, spurs look a shambles. Add to that there is a good chance Harry Kane will leave this year it will be quite a rebuild. I think Ange probably will make a positive difference down there but will it be quick enough for spurs board and fans? Who knows.

Ange knows how to identify players so that must be a plus for spurs as they need an overhaul.

GRA
05-06-2023, 11:12 AM
If Ange takes the Spurs job he'll need to get up to speed quickly. Took him a few months to get going at Celtic, will he be afforded the same time down south if he has a similar start? He was also helped by Gerrard jumping ship mid-season to wrestle the initiative from Rangers. Down south he'll have far more rivals competing towards the up end of the table. Could easily be a half-season & out the door job as seems to be the norm at Spurs these days.

Trinity Hibee
05-06-2023, 11:33 AM
If Ange takes the Spurs job he'll need to get up to speed quickly. Took him a few months to get going at Celtic, will he be afforded the same time down south if he has a similar start? He was also helped by Gerrard jumping ship mid-season to wrestle the initiative from Rangers. Down south he'll have far more rivals competing towards the up end of the table. Could easily be a half-season & out the door job as seems to be the norm at Spurs these days.

As it stands spurs are probably behind both Manchester clubs, Liverpool, arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea (money wise) so they aren’t even in top 6 clubs. Certainly not expected to get champions league now so there needs to be a revaluation of expectations at that club.

I'm Spartacus
05-06-2023, 11:34 AM
He's apparently just bought a house in Glasgow. His appointment wouldn't go down well with a lot of Celtic fans though.

A house that'll he'll have bought outright and will earn 5 x more in London, which will come with a free house I'm sure.

What a position to be in, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how he does and more than happy for Scotland to be seen as a management route to the riches of England.

Donegal Hibby
05-06-2023, 11:46 AM
Have to agree, spurs look a shambles. Add to that there is a good chance Harry Kane will leave this year it will be quite a rebuild. I think Ange probably will make a positive difference down there but will it be quick enough for spurs board and fans? Who knows.

Ange knows how to identify players so that must be a plus for spurs as they need an overhaul.
I wonder what the spurs board and fans expectations are too , championships league ? A cup ? . Your right that spurs look a shambles and if kane leaves that will seriously weaken them further . Competition for the top four has never been as fierce ! Man city and Arsenal are guaranteed top two places again imo and Man U , Liverpool and Newcastle and Chelsea will be fighting it out for the last two spots. Ange will need time to build a team to challenge the rest and I'm not sure Daniel levy will give him time if they find themselves in 7th , 8th position this season . It's a big gamble going to spurs imo .

Since452
05-06-2023, 11:49 AM
I could manage Celtic and be in with a very realistic chance of winning trophies. I'm yet to be convinced about how good Ange is.

Trinity Hibee
05-06-2023, 11:51 AM
I could manage Celtic and be in with a very realistic chance of winning trophies. I'm yet to be convinced about how good Ange is.

His signings have been excellent and don’t think that can be argued.

Scouse Hibee
05-06-2023, 11:52 AM
I could manage Celtic and be in with a very realistic chance of winning trophies. I'm yet to be convinced about how good Ange is.

You really wouldn’t.

JamesHFC
05-06-2023, 12:11 PM
If Ange takes the Spurs job he'll need to get up to speed quickly. Took him a few months to get going at Celtic, will he be afforded the same time down south if he has a similar start? He was also helped by Gerrard jumping ship mid-season to wrestle the initiative from Rangers. Down south he'll have far more rivals competing towards the up end of the table. Could easily be a half-season & out the door job as seems to be the norm at Spurs these days.

No European games will probably benefit him to implement his style of play a lot quicker in training.

Since452
05-06-2023, 12:47 PM
His signings have been excellent and don’t think that can be argued.

They have been, they've looked good against teams that could only dream of affording them. I know the transfer fees weren't huge for some of them but the wages will be big. They've been dismal in Europe under Ange when the quality of opposition has been better. I just don't think winning trophies at Celtic is any big achievement.

He's still spent close to £50 million.

Since452
05-06-2023, 12:55 PM
You really wouldn’t.

Give me £50 million to spend and i wouldn't be far away.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2023, 01:06 PM
A house that'll he'll have bought outright and will earn 5 x more in London, which will come with a free house I'm sure.

What a position to be in, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how he does and more than happy for Scotland to be seen as a management route to the riches of England.

Think Brendan’s property Company owns over 100 houses

JeMeSouviens
05-06-2023, 01:25 PM
Celtic fans getting another reality check, quite funny tbh.

Having to accept their place in the pecking order. :agree:

Sanctimonious greetin faced hypocrisy overload from them. Tremendous. :greengrin

Jim44
05-06-2023, 02:00 PM
Are all their Japanese players on long contracts? I can see them getting a bit frustrated if AP jumps ship. I can certainly see Kyogo heading south but I don’t know about the others.

Steven79
05-06-2023, 02:04 PM
Give me £50 million to spend and i wouldn't be far away.I agree as you only really have to beat Rangers and you are certs to win a trophy or two.

Rodgers was a better manager for Celtic yet they won't accept that for the way he left them.

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Dmas
05-06-2023, 02:11 PM
I agree as you only really have to beat Rangers and you are certs to win a trophy or two.

Rodgers was a better manager for Celtic yet they won't accept that for the way he left them.

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I think Ange was better than Rodgers, he had a great first season but I think the bottom of it was falling out when he was on his way, an incredible coach I don’t think he signs well teams seem to go backwards the more chance he has to recruit.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2023, 02:12 PM
Are all their Japanese players on long contracts? I can see them getting a bit frustrated if AP jumps ship. I can certainly see Kyogo heading south but I don’t know about the others.

Why would the Japanese players be any different to the other players on Celtics books that signed under Ange? Is it unusual for managers to change jobs in Japan?

Donegal Hibby
05-06-2023, 02:29 PM
Give me £50 million to spend and i wouldn't be far away.
Spending money helps but it doesn't always guarantee success . Neil Lennon spent over 30 million in his last term on players like Ajeti , barkas, Kilmala and Bolingoli . What Ange has done is went into markets he knows and picked up quality players at good prices. Ange postecoglou is a top Manager and has transformed Celtic from a team you'd fancy your chances against to one your hoping not to get a doing from . Think there's a lot more to it than just spending money.

Cat Stanton
05-06-2023, 02:52 PM
Spending money helps but it doesn't always guarantee success . Neil Lennon spent over 30 million in his last term on players like Ajeti , barkas, Kilmala and Bolingoli . What Ange has done is went into markets he knows and picked up quality players at good prices. Ange postecoglou is a top Manager and has transformed Celtic from a team you'd fancy your chances against to one your hoping not to get a doing from . Think there's a lot more to it than just spending money.


Helps having money though... And in this crappy league, where only two teams have any, I would bet a large amount of it on Since452 leading his team to at least runner's up spot, and probably picking up a cup along the way.

JohnM1875
05-06-2023, 02:54 PM
Celtic fan in work saying Rodgers has been offered the Celtic job and he's expecting both Postecoglu leaving and Rodgers appointment to happen within a day or two. Could all be nonsense mind you, but Rodgers back to Celtic makes sense.

Sylar
05-06-2023, 03:10 PM
There was noise last week Rodgers had recently bought a house in Glasgow. Usual 'fitba forum' rumour nonsense, but maybe there was some value to it.

Either way, thank **** Ange is away. A very good tactician with an eye for quality players, who (let's be honest) has been pretty untouchable since arriving in Scotland.

Hope he takes some of the quality players he's signed with him, and that this weakens Celtc for next season.

Donegal Hibby
05-06-2023, 03:21 PM
Helps having money though... And in this crappy league, where only two teams have any, I would bet a large amount of it on Since452 leading his team to at least runner's up spot, and probably picking up a cup along the way.
Definitely money helps and even if Since 452 spent £50 million badly he should easily finish 2nd and have a chance of a cup though lennon was in this position also and he got pushed out the door . A string of bad results and even 2nd place wouldn't save your job as winning the league is the primary goal at Celtic.

It's much the same at Sevco with Beale in charge . Will the hordes be a happy with a cup and 2nd place finish next season ? Will they gave him another season after that ? If they do and he fails again he's toast imo that's if they give him time of course in the first place .

Irish_Steve
05-06-2023, 03:31 PM
Tom English just been on Radio 5 saying it’s a fine deal so Celtc will be on the look for another manager. Maybe Pep fancies it….

JimBHibees
05-06-2023, 03:50 PM
Think Brendan’s property Company owns over 100 houses

Which kind of sums up the absolutely ridiculous money these guys are on.

JimBHibees
05-06-2023, 03:50 PM
Tom English just been on Radio 5 saying it’s a fine deal so Celtc will be on the look for another manager. Maybe Pep fancies it….

Done deal?

JimBHibees
05-06-2023, 03:53 PM
There was noise last week Rodgers had recently bought a house in Glasgow. Usual 'fitba forum' rumour nonsense, but maybe there was some value to it.

Either way, thank **** Ange is away. A very good tactician with an eye for quality players, who (let's be honest) has been pretty untouchable since arriving in Scotland.

Hope he takes some of the quality players he's signed with him, and that this weakens Celtc for next season.

Will be interesting to see if he tries to take anyone? Hatate and Kyogo obvious ones. Possible they may have an epl clause in their contracts. Maybe Ange did also.

Donegal Hibby
05-06-2023, 04:07 PM
Will be interesting to see if he tries to take anyone? Hatate and Kyogo obvious ones. Possible they may have an epl clause in their contracts. Maybe Ange did also.
Glasgow times reporting £5 million compensation agreed . And Ange has agreed terms with spurs . The Sun saying ( I know ) spurs want kyogo and fee getting talked about is £20 million . Skysports article.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12896980/ange-postecoglou-celtic-manager-agrees-terms-in-principle-with-tottenham-brendan-rodgers-and-jesse-marsch-in-frame-to-replace-him

Billy Whizz
05-06-2023, 04:42 PM
Glasgow times reporting £5 million compensation agreed . And Ange has agreed terms with spurs . The Sun saying ( I know ) spurs want kyogo and fee getting talked about is £20 million . Skysports article.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12896980/ange-postecoglou-celtic-manager-agrees-terms-in-principle-with-tottenham-brendan-rodgers-and-jesse-marsch-in-frame-to-replace-him

The compensation is a lot higher than I’d have thought, a 12 month-rolling contract would pay
Wonder if he’s taking any of his backroom staff with him

JamesHFC
05-06-2023, 04:48 PM
The compensation is a lot higher than I’d have thought, a 12 month-rolling contract would pay
Wonder if he’s taking any of his backroom staff with him

Kennedy & Strachan.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2023, 04:54 PM
Kennedy & Strachan.

Thanks. Has this been confirmed?
I’d have thought it would have been Harry Kewell he’d have wanted, as he brought him in

Pretty Boy
05-06-2023, 05:05 PM
Kennedy & Strachan.

I'm loving Celtic's fans reaction to this.

Not so long ago Kennedy was everything wrong with the club. His continued presence was proof that Lawell lacked the same ambition as Rodgers. He was the common denominator when Lennon ****ed 10 in a row. He was around when Delia huffed and puffed to the easiest league titles they will ever win and failed to ever get a treble.

Now Ange wants to take him to Spurs it's ripping the backroom staff away, denying them continuity and proof Ange is a snake.

Self entitled half wits.

Carheenlea
05-06-2023, 05:06 PM
With compensation such as £5M it makes managerial change for Celtic much less of an upheaval than it can be for the rest of us.

Just another advantage they hold over us. Can basically hand pick who they want in the door next without any fuss.

JohnM1875
05-06-2023, 05:09 PM
Rodgers 'not interested' in Celtic return apparently. Be hilarious if they end up with Lennon again.

JamesHFC
05-06-2023, 05:13 PM
Thanks. Has this been confirmed?
I’d have thought it would have been Harry Kewell he’d have wanted, as he brought him in

Heard it from someone who would know. Media were reporting it this morning too.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2023, 05:15 PM
Heard it from someone who would know. Media were reporting it this morning too.

Not doubting you, just haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere
Wasn’t Kennedy not linked as being Naismith’s assistant