Driving Pet Peeves

[Moulin Yarns]

Taxi drivers (in Glasgow) I never saw one taxi stop at traffic lights without encroaching fully into the cycle space at the front over the last couple of days.

[Onceinawhile]

When you have a two lane roundabout with three options, left, straight on or right.

You are in the right hand lane going right.

The car in the left hand lane is not indicating and presumably therefore going straight on.

The car in the left hand lane puts the foot down, takes up half the right hand lane on the roundabout and then moves back out and goes straight on. Luckily you anticipate it and hold back.

Why do people do this? Just go 2/3mph slower and you'll be able to stay in the correct lane without the risk of running folk off the road.:aok:

[Sylar]

Taxi drivers (in Glasgow)

You could have stopped at that. I've been working in Glasgow for about 3 years now and taxi drivers here are a different breed. They define entitlement.

[matty_f]

When you have a two lane roundabout with three options, left, straight on or right.

You are in the right hand lane going right.

The car in the left hand lane is not indicating and presumably therefore going straight on.

The car in the left hand lane puts the foot down, takes up half the right hand lane on the roundabout and then moves back out and goes straight on. Luckily you anticipate it and hold back.

Why do people do this? Just go 2/3mph slower and you'll be able to stay in the correct lane without the risk of running folk off the road.:aok:

Roundabout behaviour is probably my biggest driving peeve. It's not difficult yet folk get it wrong all the time. I'm amazed there aren't much more accidents on roundabouts.

[McD]

When you have a two lane roundabout with three options, left, straight on or right.

You are in the right hand lane going right.

The car in the left hand lane is not indicating and presumably therefore going straight on.

The car in the left hand lane puts the foot down, takes up half the right hand lane on the roundabout and then moves back out and goes straight on. Luckily you anticipate it and hold back.

Why do people do this? Just go 2/3mph slower and you'll be able to stay in the correct lane without the risk of running folk off the road.:aok:



There’s a smallish roundabout near our house that we regularly turn right at, heading home, and this happens all the time. The drivers in the left hand lane seem to think they’re completely fine just taking a straight line across, and apparently it’s their right of way to cut cross the right hand lane the way they act, ********s. One day someone will be badly hurt when 2 cars collide at reasonable speed, all because of selfish driving.

[Just Alf]

On the round about theme...
On the Calder Road I used to see the odd accident/aftermath every once in a while ... Then a year or so ago they painted nice white lines to create lanes... Now I witness regular near misses and actual accidents on a depressingly regular basis..

It's almost like no markings made people think so tended to merge better, now folks whizz round in 'their' lane and the slightest mistake or bad timing by anybody equals a wee ding.

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[Pretty Boy]

The absolute tit in an Audi, it's always an Audi, on Niddrie Mains Road earlier tonight who decided to lean on his horn and shout out his window at the drivers in front of him who were stopped because 2 ambulances were blocking the road whilst they worked on a guy who looked in a pretty bad way on the pavement.

He could see the ambulances, could see why cars were stopped. He just didn't care because he drives an Audi so he's very, very important.

[The Modfather]

The idiots who think just because you’re on a Vespa you don’t belong on the same road as them. Only fairly recently got a Vespa and already had far too many examples of folk overtaking, and particularly undertaking, when it’s clearly not safe to do so. I’m driving the same routes at the same speeds as I do in the car and it’s night and day the lack of respect scooters get.

[RyeSloan]

The idiots who think just because you’re on a Vespa you don’t belong on the same road as them. Only fairly recently got a Vespa and already had far too many examples of folk overtaking, and particularly undertaking, when it’s clearly not safe to do so. I’m driving the same routes at the same speeds as I do in the car and it’s night and day the lack of respect scooters get.

Ha yeah that’s so true.

Some drivers (almost exclusively male) just seem to have size syndrome issue with having to follow a scooter. They will do whatever it takes to get past even if there is patently no where to go.

In a similar vein I had an idiot the other day who took exception to me jumping the huge long queue of traffic on Waverley bridge as I nipped up to the front to await the lights to turn left into princess street then right into St Andrews square.

He started blasting his horn and waving at me like a demented person...I politely ignored him (was tempted to provide a few hand signals back but didn’t).

On the lights going green he swerved out on to the turn right lane and tried to boot it around me to get in front so he could sit at the next red light one scooter space further forward.

What he failed to account for that despite me being just a scooter I can take the corner much tighter and easily got into the lane ahead of him making all his revving, dangerous driving, horn blowing and gesticulating completely redundant.

It was all rather odd.

[pollution]

In Edinburgh. Princess Street pet hate lol

[J-C]

Randolph Cr at Queensferry St theres 3 lanes, right hand to go onto Queensferry Rs, middle lane to go towards Drumsheugh Gds and left lane to go left. The amount of people who still get this wrong even with dashed white lines to help them.

[Future17]

Randolph Cr at Queensferry St theres 3 lanes, right hand to go onto Queensferry Rs, middle lane to go towards Drumsheugh Gds and left lane to go left. The amount of people who still get this wrong even with dashed white lines to help them.

I've got a bit of sympathy for this as the "towards Drumsheugh Gardens" involves a right turn first. It would probably be safer if there were only two lanes; a left turn and a right turn.

[Hibrandenburg]

The idiots who think just because you’re on a Vespa you don’t belong on the same road as them. Only fairly recently got a Vespa and already had far too many examples of folk overtaking, and particularly undertaking, when it’s clearly not safe to do so. I’m driving the same routes at the same speeds as I do in the car and it’s night and day the lack of respect scooters get.

I feel your pain, in general motorbike drivers are amongst the most careful group on the roads, they have to be. What grips my **** is the scooters that are restricted to only do about 25mph. In Germany they actually try and set the traffic lights so that if you drive at the permitted speed limit then you will always have green on the main roads. If you get stuck behind one of these things, you end up having constant red and if you finally get a chance to overtake then they just saunter to the front of the queue that they caused in the first place and starting the whole infuriating process all over again. Does my nut it.

[bigwheel]

The idiots who think just because you’re on a Vespa you don’t belong on the same road as them. Only fairly recently got a Vespa and already had far too many examples of folk overtaking, and particularly undertaking, when it’s clearly not safe to do so. I’m driving the same routes at the same speeds as I do in the car and it’s night and day the lack of respect scooters get.

I constantly make sure I’m driving in the middle of the road on my scooters...I always want anyone overtaking me to have to cross the white line - feel they will take a more serious consideration before they do it

[calumhibee1]

You could have stopped at that. I've been working in Glasgow for about 3 years now and taxi drivers here are a different breed. They define entitlement.

He do uld have shortened it even further to just taxi drivers to be fair :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

Randolph Cr at Queensferry St theres 3 lanes, right hand to go onto Queensferry Rs, middle lane to go towards Drumsheugh Gds and left lane to go left. The amount of people who still get this wrong even with dashed white lines to help them.

:agree:

Not difficult to work out what lane you should be in there.

[Scouse Hibee]

Travelling from Corstorphine, got to the roundabout at Balgreen Road waiting to turn left towards approach road, it was 08.45 so bus lane was in operation. I was in inside lane and woman pulls alongside in outside lane which is the correct lane for her going towards Gorgie Road. As the break in the traffic comes I start to enter the roundabout going left, she does the same, cuts right across the front of me causing to swerve into the thankfully empty bus lane to avoid her taking my wing off! She was totally oblivious and then proceeded to cut someone else up at the next set of traffic lights too. The woman probably arrived at her destination absolutely clueless as to the incompetence of her driving!

[Alfiembra]

The woman probably arrived at her destination absolutely clueless as to the incompetence of her driving!

See this so many times, particularly with young women on motorway's in their Toyota Aygo's or similar wee tin cans tailgateing and travelling at ridiculous speeds completely oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves and their passengers in.

[grunt]

The idiots who think just because you’re on a Vespa you don’t belong on the same road as them. This is not a peeve post. I'm just grinning stupidly at the combination of the content of your post, your screen name and your avatar. They fit perfectly!

[bingo70]

When you’re looking for a parking space in town, eventually find one, put your indicators on to reverse into it but the clown behind you is so far up your arse they don’t realise that’s what’s happening. Inevitably they get annoyed as they think you’ve just stopped for no reason as they struggle to get round you.

I hope I’ve explained that right but I know what I mean even if nobody else does 😃

[lord bunberry]

When you’re looking for a parking space in town, eventually find one, put your indicators on to reverse into it but the clown behind you is so far up your arse they don’t realise that’s what’s happening. Inevitably they get annoyed as they think you’ve just stopped for no reason as they struggle to get round you.

I hope I’ve explained that right but I know what I mean even if nobody else does 😃

It’s quite a hard one that if you’re moving along relatively slowly. The space you need to reverse park into a space is more than the gap most people are realistically going to leave you, especially if you see the space quite late.

[Scouse Hibee]

When you’re looking for a parking space in town, eventually find one, put your indicators on to reverse into it but the clown behind you is so far up your arse they don’t realise that’s what’s happening. Inevitably they get annoyed as they think you’ve just stopped for no reason as they struggle to get round you.

I hope I’ve explained that right but I know what I mean even if nobody else does 😃

When other drivers think you can read their minds, they suddenly slam on their brakes when they see a parking space they have passed, put their indicator on and then expect you to be able to reverse even though you have cars behind you!

[bingo70]

When other drivers think you can read their minds, they suddenly slam on their brakes when they see a parking space they have passed, put their indicator on and then expect you to be able to reverse even though you have cars behind you!

Yeah, that’d be annoying if people did that, I’ll need to keep my eyes open for that kind of inconsiderate driver 😉

[Jones28]

****ING INDICATE. ****ers.

[Scouse Hibee]

Neighbours who park on street, if we all park sensibly we can get the five cars we collectively own in the stretch of road in front of our three houses. This works well until one neighbour regularly leaves too big a gap that you can’t get a car in and cuts the available space down so only four cars can be parked.

[J-C]

Neighbours who park on street, if we all park sensibly we can get the five cars we collectively own in the stretch of road in front of our three houses. This works well until one neighbour regularly leaves too big a gap that you can’t get a car in and cuts the available space down so only four cars can be parked.


You could add that to anyone who parks a basic car like they've got a truck that needs yards of space between cars, taxi drivers with the new bigger taxi's are just as bad on the ranks, nudge up and we'll get more on them and stop hanging over the edge blocking the road.

[Alfiembra]

Parents, more often than not mums, who insist on loading and unloading their young kids on the offside of their vehicles.
That is to say the dangerous side, on the road where there is traffic passing by.
Usually leaving doors wide open as they transfer their offspring to safety on the kerb.

[lord bunberry]

When you go to pump up your tyres, the valve is always right at the bottom.

[lapsedhibee]

When you go to pump up your tyres, the valve is always right at the bottom.
Well obviously, because of the extra weight of the valve …

[hibee_girl]

Portobello high street

There’s two lanes as you drive up to Inchview Terrace or going right to Seafield. It drives me mad when people try make it three lanes practically down to Aldi’s :grr:

[J-C]

Portobello high street

There’s two lanes as you drive up to Inchview Terrace or going right to Seafield. It drives me mad when people try make it three lanes practically down to Aldi’s :grr:

Doesn't help when you've got buses sitting there waiting ages on their change over blocking a whole lane. Also with the Brighton Pl diversion more people doing left turns towards Harry Lauder Rd, literally making it 3 kanes now.

[Alfiembra]

Drivers that sit in their car, mostly in supermarket car parks, and leave their engine running.

Parked beside a guy yesterday in Asda car park, with his engine running, went and did my shopping returned to my car about 30 minutes later and he's still there, sound asleep and engine still running. Accidentally bumped the horn button on mine gettinto my car.........oops.

I'm no eco-warrior but this is just plain madness to me, remember someone telling me years ago that your car uses a gallon of petrol (4.5 litres to you young-uns) for every 20 minutes it sits idling.

[Killiehibbie]

Drivers that sit in their car, mostly in supermarket car parks, and leave their engine running.

Parked beside a guy yesterday in Asda car park, with his engine running, went and did my shopping returned to my car about 30 minutes later and he's still there, sound asleep and engine still running. Accidentally bumped the horn button on mine gettinto my car.........oops.

I'm no eco-warrior but this is just plain madness to me, remember someone telling me years ago that your car uses a gallon of petrol (4.5 litres to you young-uns) for every 20 minutes it sits idling.
It would need to be some size of engine to go through 3 gallons per hour idling.

[Alfiembra]

It would need to be some size of engine to go through 3 gallons per hour idling.

Just googled it and it seems, at worst, up to about three quarters of a gallon/hour which would be about 1 litre for 20 minutes maybe got my units mixed up.
Still madness though.

[speedy_gonzales]

Usually only becomes apparent as the nights start drawing in, but Cyclops on the road! Folk who drive with only one working headlight on their car.
Was out on Saturday night when we had the dark skies and torrential rain, a young driver thought it appropriate to drive with one headlight on main beam (probably because one or both dipped headlights were out along with her nearside main beam).
Was quite distracting as she was driving so close behind me on the bypass. I slowed to encourage her to pass but she either didn't have the confidence to drive in the heavy rain or she loved sitting on my bumper so was stuck with the dazzling light in my mirrors.

[RyeSloan]

Just googled it and it seems, at worst, up to about three quarters of a gallon/hour which would be about 1 litre for 20 minutes maybe got my units mixed up.
Still madness though.

Not sure what you googled but that’s way too high still...some cars will use that amount when doing 40mph for an hour.

For a standard car (sub 2 litre engine) I can’t see it being more than half a litre an hour if it’s sitting warm at idle without air con. It’s literally just ticking over so consumption will be minimal.

That’s not to say the dude was doing right of course!

[Jim44]

Usually only becomes apparent as the nights start drawing in, but Cyclops on the road! Folk who drive with only one working headlight on their car.
Was out on Saturday night when we had the dark skies and torrential rain, a young driver thought it appropriate to drive with one headlight on main beam (probably because one or both dipped headlights were out along with her nearside main beam).
Was quite distracting as she was driving so close behind me on the bypass. I slowed to encourage her to pass but she either didn't have the confidence to drive in the heavy rain or she loved sitting on my bumper so was stuck with the dazzling light in my mirrors.

On really dark nights on B roads and you see one ( passenger side ) head lamp working. From a distance it looks like a motorbike approaching. Anyone driving like that deserves the book thrown at them. It’s just about forgivable for someone to not know that a rear or brake light is not working but knowingly risking an accident is crazy.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’ve done this one before but folk that go through a very late amber or red when I’m sitting trying to turn right. Happened last night at the bottom of the wisp trying to turn right to the Fort - 2 cars went late then a third followed. Incredible - I’m sitting stranded and the cars going from the fort to Niddrie start coming towards me like I’m in the wrong.

[Pretty Boy]

I’ve done this one before but folk that go through a very late amber or red when I’m sitting trying to turn right. Happened last night at the bottom of the wisp trying to turn right to the Fort - 2 cars went late then a third followed. Incredible - I’m sitting stranded and the cars going from the fort to Niddrie start coming towards me like I’m in the wrong.

Happens all the time there.

There should be a filter for the right turn coming off the Wisp. I live just off Newcraighall Road and on a Saturday and Sunday turning right from the Wisp is a life threatening endeavour. People jump the light coming up past the Duddingston Fry all the time. It's not even Amber, it's 2 or 3 cars driving through a red light.

[J-C]

Red is the new amber nowadays, there are loads of dodgy red gamblers on the roads.

[Just Jimmy]

Red is the new amber nowadays, there are loads of dodgy red gamblers on the roads.easy solved if they stick cameras on the lights and jumping a red is an instant £100 and 3 points.

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[Killiehibbie]

Happens all the time there.

There should be a filter for the right turn coming off the Wisp. I live just off Newcraighall Road and on a Saturday and Sunday turning right from the Wisp is a life threatening endeavour. People jump the light coming up past the Duddingston Fry all the time. It's not even Amber, it's 2 or 3 cars driving through a red light.

I've said for years that a filter should be put there. I'd ask my councillor to request one or find out the reason why it can't be done. Doesn't seem too hard to implement and can be timed to work when required.

[grunt]

Sitting in lengthy queue of traffic westbound on Duddingston Crescent outside the new Porty High, 5pm yesterday.
Watching car after car zooming up the bus lane. Bus lane in operation from 4pm.

[RyeSloan]

Sitting in lengthy queue of traffic westbound on Duddingston Crescent outside the new Porty High, 5pm yesterday.
Watching car after car zooming up the bus lane. Bus lane in operation from 4pm.

Not that I would support such behaviour and it’s a road to be avoided at that time of night but I see why people do it if they are not turning right onto the A1 slip as the bus lane ends and hey presto there is plenty of space in the straight on / left lane.

One lane of traffic for that road / junction is the real madness.

[heretoday]

Are there still roadworks in and out of Penicuik? Near Tesco.
Nightmare.

[patch1875]

Normally associated with taxis and BMW’s the lack of use of the indicators is rife especially on roundabouts.

[speedy_gonzales]

Normally associated with taxis and BMW’s the lack of use of the indicators is rife especially on roundabouts.

Lack of indication is definitely not restricted to one or two types of driver these days.
I was trying to get out of the retail park at Hermiston Gait this evening and the amount of vehicles coming out of the barriered exit from Edinburgh Park and going all the way around the outside of the r-a-b with zero indication was a pi$$ take.

[Jack]

A long, long two way road that's 40mph. Overtaking isn't really an option.

Why do some drivers vary their speed (yesterday's example) between 28 and 48 for no reason other than they're not very good at driving?

Does ma nut in!

[hibee_girl]

The roadworks at the bottom of Easter road/Lochend Road :grr:

[Scouse Hibee]

Been said before but Red light runners who prevent you from turning right before the traffic from the other direction comes at you, does my nut in.

[Moulin Yarns]

The roadworks at the bottom of Easter road/Lochend Road :grr:

The fact that the council (Perth and Kinross) has schedule resurfacing of 500m of the main road in Pitlochry to coincide with 2 of the busiest periods, the Highland Games and the start of Enchanted Forest!!

[Saturday Boy]

Regents Road and Waterloo Place are closed to traffic to allow the filming of a Hollywood movie.

Traffic at Abbeyhill all has to go London Road then Leith Street.

Perfect timing with the 4-way lights on East Norton Place and the top of Easter Road.

At least the Festival visitors have all gone home so that it’s only locals and Council Tax payers that have to live with it.

[J-C]

Regents Road and Waterloo Place are closed to traffic to allow the filming of a Hollywood movie.

Traffic at Abbeyhill all has to go London Road then Leith Street.

Perfect timing with the 4-way lights on East Norton Place and the top of Easter Road.

At least the Festival visitors have all gone home so that it’s only locals and Council Tax payers that have to live with it.

Expect chaos for the next 2 weeks as lots of central streets get closed for this bloody film, more money for this Clowncil.

[Weegreenman]

Regents Road and Waterloo Place are closed to traffic to allow the filming of a Hollywood movie.

Traffic at Abbeyhill all has to go London Road then Leith Street.

Perfect timing with the 4-way lights on East Norton Place and the top of Easter Road.



At least the Festival visitors have all gone home so that it’s only locals and Council Tax payers that have to live with it.

Heaping misery on top of misery! It’s absolutely criminal what’s taking place in this city. Unfortunately there’s no accountability for those who sign these things off.

[Moulin Yarns]

Courier delivery drivers. Not their actual driving but their ability to stop in an instant with no warning, and on the actual delivery service, don't leave a cardboard box in the recycling bin, and use some common sense, if the point on your map doesn't correspond with the postal address on the parcel, check before delivering the item to the wrong person.

[Jim44]

I joined the M8 at Hermiston Gait yesterday afternoon. There was a big lorry in the inside lane travelling no more the 50mph and another HGV pulling out to overtake. The overtaking vehicle was struggling to get past and ran alongside the other one for two or three miles till the exit for the M90. Unable to overtake, he braked and fell back into the inside lane to take the exit. I tend to think HGV drivers are experienced and responsible but the performance from this pair was unbelievable.

[Scouse Hibee]

The ever increasing trend of erseholes pulling wheelies on push bikes whilst in traffic, lately have seen them cycling towards the oncoming traffic doing it.

[Jack]

I joined the M8 at Hermiston Gait yesterday afternoon. There was a big lorry in the inside lane travelling no more the 50mph and another HGV pulling out to overtake. The overtaking vehicle was struggling to get past and ran alongside the other one for two or three miles till the exit for the M90. Unable to overtake, he braked and fell back into the inside lane to take the exit. I tend to think HGV drivers are experienced and responsible but the performance from this pair was unbelievable.

Happens all the time and the should know better or don't care.

As I said earlier I just don't let them out these days.

Vans and lorries from the same company playing games doesn't impress me much either. Delivery companies are probably the worst and it's not just Warbiton the manager that's a fanny!

[speedy_gonzales]

The ever increasing trend of erseholes pulling wheelies on push bikes whilst in traffic, lately have seen them cycling towards the oncoming traffic doing it.

Saughton Road North by any chance?

[Scouse Hibee]

Saughton Road North by any chance?

Meadow Place Road just beyond Tesco was my latest sighting

[speedy_gonzales]

Meadow Place Road just beyond Tesco was my latest sighting

Ah, there's been a group of young bucks cycling around Saughton Road, Carrick Knowe & Broomhall the last couple of weeks. A little anti-social behaviour but nothing too serious (and we've all been there).
Unfortunately for them, their reckless cycling on & off the roads on these dark nights could end in someone getting hurt. Wouldn't wish it upon them but just wonder who the parents would blame/complain to if it did happen!

[Scouse Hibee]

Driving West towards the Zoo tonight a white Mercedes hatch turning right from Pinkhill decides he’s fed up of waiting and decides to go for the gap in between me and the car in front, about three car lengths, ****in madness. If I hadn’t have slightly anticipated his move as I saw his nose edging out as the car in front passed him I think I would have hit him, my brakes work that’s for sure......phew

[Hiber-nation]

Ersehole pedestrians who see you coming then decide to wander across anyway (in the last instance 5 yards away from the crossing) but turn their head away. Next one's getting a sharp toot!

[Moulin Yarns]

Ersehole pedestrians who see you coming then decide to wander across anyway (in the last instance 5 yards away from the crossing) but turn their head away. Next one's getting a sharp toot!

You should live in Pitlochry!! Standard practice of tourists.

[Hibee87]

You should live in Pitlochry!! Standard practice of tourists.

Funny you mention Pitlochry, and the enchanted forest in one of the posts at the top, do you recommend anywhere to stay with a good breakfast? Im up in a couple of weeks for the EF with the bairn and missus, going to book a room tonight but a bit of local knowledge would be appreciated.

[Moulin Yarns]

Funny you mention Pitlochry, and the enchanted forest in one of the posts at the top, do you recommend anywhere to stay with a good breakfast? Im up in a couple of weeks for the EF with the bairn and missus, going to book a room tonight but a bit of local knowledge would be appreciated.

A bit difficult to recommend places to stay when I live here.

However, depends on your budget, The Moulin Inn, The Old Mill, McKay's and Craigatin House are all supposed to be nice, as is Craigmhor Lodge. Or there are the larger hotels Fisher's, Atholl Palace and Scotland's which are all the same hotel chain. And there's The Hydro hotel, which along with Scotland's and the Atholl Palace have pools. Pitlochry has no Travel Lodge type accommodation other than a Youth Hostel and Backpackers Hostel. Always try self catering, The Moulin Inn has a couple of cottages.

Worth looking at these to help choose. Hope it helps.

https://www.visitscotland.com/destinations-maps/pitlochry/accommodation/

https://www.pitlochry.org/where-to-stay/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotels-g186566-Pitlochry_Perth_and_Kinross_Scotland-Hotels.html

[McD]

Folk who saunter through car parks oblivious to the cars also trying to negotiate their way through.


folk who can’t park a car straight and end up over one of the lines enough to make the next space unusable.


folk who use parent and child spaces without a child, lazy ****s. Also people who park in the drop off bay at supermarkets.

[J-C]

Folk who saunter through car parks oblivious to the cars also trying to negotiate their way through.


folk who can’t park a car straight and end up over one of the lines enough to make the next space unusable.


folk who use parent and child spaces without a child, lazy ****s. Also people who park in the drop off bay at supermarkets.

A few weeks back I'm sitting outside M&S at Craigleith waiting to pick up the missus, a big BMW pulls into a parent and child space, out pops the 2 parents and a girl aged around 14 dressed in Mary Erskine uniform, bloody cheek and lazy gets.

[Hibee87]

A bit difficult to recommend places to stay when I live here.

However, depends on your budget, The Moulin Inn, The Old Mill, McKay's and Craigatin House are all supposed to be nice, as is Craigmhor Lodge. Or there are the larger hotels Fisher's, Atholl Palace and Scotland's which are all the same hotel chain. And there's The Hydro hotel, which along with Scotland's and the Atholl Palace have pools. Pitlochry has no Travel Lodge type accommodation other than a Youth Hostel and Backpackers Hostel. Always try self catering, The Moulin Inn has a couple of cottages.

Worth looking at these to help choose. Hope it helps.

https://www.visitscotland.com/destinations-maps/pitlochry/accommodation/

https://www.pitlochry.org/where-to-stay/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotels-g186566-Pitlochry_Perth_and_Kinross_Scotland-Hotels.html

Appreciated. not really got a budget but been looking at around 100 odd quid for the 3 of us for a night including breakfast. Its a Sunday so driving up the 2nd of Nov and staying over. All I require/would like is a place with nice fry up in the morning and a nice wee bar where I can chill with a few beers before the forest :aok:

[Moulin Yarns]

Appreciated. not really got a budget but been looking at around 100 odd quid for the 3 of us for a night including breakfast. Its a Sunday so driving up the 2nd of Nov and staying over. All I require/would like is a place with nice fry up in the morning and a nice wee bar where I can chill with a few beers before the forest :aok:

Everywhere will be busy due to the EF event, the buses pick up outside Fishers and across the road from the old Mill. Atholl Palace and the Moulin are further away, 20-30 minutes walk away. I like the old mill for the range of ales on offer but avoid it during October.

[Danderhall Hibs]

A few weeks back I'm sitting outside M&S at Craigleith waiting to pick up the missus, a big BMW pulls into a parent and child space, out pops the 2 parents and a girl aged around 14 dressed in Mary Erskine uniform, bloody cheek and lazy gets.

Worse for me is the collection spaces - folk park in them then go and do the monthly shop.

And the number of disabled spaces - seems disproportionate to the number of disabled people (and the majority lie empty). Is there a ratio of disabled spaces per car park?

[Mibbes Aye]

Worse for me is the collection spaces - folk park in them then go and do the monthly shop.

And the number of disabled spaces - seems disproportionate to the number of disabled people (and the majority lie empty). Is there a ratio of disabled spaces per car park?

I’m sure there is, but I don’t know what it is. I guess that if it is a big car park like a Tesco Extra or a big Asda then there will be loads, because the car park itself is huge. So, no difference in relative terms but what appears a large number in absolute terms.

I also imagine there is nothing to stop a car park provider going over the ratio, should they choose.

[Onceinawhile]

Folk who saunter through car parks oblivious to the cars also trying to negotiate their way through.


folk who can’t park a car straight and end up over one of the lines enough to make the next space unusable.


folk who use parent and child spaces without a child, lazy ****s. Also people who park in the drop off bay at supermarkets.

Should be parent and toddler spaces, not parent and child spaces.

To solve it, they should put them further away from the shop. That way people who actually need them for the extra space to get small children out still get the space and lazy aholes, don't use them.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Should be parent and toddler spaces, not parent and child spaces.

To solve it, they should put them further away from the shop. That way people who actually need them for the extra space to get small children out still get the space and lazy aholes, don't use them.

:agree:

[Pretty Boy]

Should be parent and toddler spaces, not parent and child spaces.

To solve it, they should put them further away from the shop. That way people who actually need them for the extra space to get small children out still get the space and lazy aholes, don't use them.

I think as well as offering extra space to manoeuvre, they are located close to the shop so that people with babies and toddlers don't have to walk all the way across the car park where some people, probably those who park in spaces they shouldn't, drive like total dicks.

I suppose a solution could be to locate P&C spaces well away from the store but put a pedestrian only walkway in place to provide safe passage.

[Mibbes Aye]

I think as well as offering extra space to manoeuvre, they are located close to the shop so that people with babies and toddlers don't have to walk all the way across the car park where some people, probably those who park in spaces they shouldn't, drive like total dicks.

I suppose a solution could be to locate P&C spaces well away from the store but put a pedestrian only walkway in place to provide safe passage.

That’s the critical thing.

A good few years ago now for me, but you find yourself pushing a fully loaded trolley, a young child on one hand and a younger child in the basket chair of the trolley. You’ve got to get both children into child seats and then get the shopping into the car and if you are conscientious, move the trolley to the bay, if you feel comfortable leaving them alone for the thirty seconds that will haunt you for ever if anything went wrong! And all the time being wary of a boy racer gunning it down the lane and taking out you and/or your trolley.

Parking with children is a nightmare but anyone who does anything to make it worse deserves flogged, shot, or perhaps flogged and then shot.

[Speedy]

Might have mentioned it already but radio adverts with horns irritate me. I'm convinced it's dangerous.

That beep beep advert is beeping infuriating.

[McD]

Should be parent and toddler spaces, not parent and child spaces.

To solve it, they should put them further away from the shop. That way people who actually need them for the extra space to get small children out still get the space and lazy aholes, don't use them.


I have noticed some places have started to specify along these lines, however it seems to be ignored/abused by the same people anyway.

[Wembley67]

Might have mentioned it already but radio adverts with horns irritate me. I'm convinced it's dangerous.


That beep beep advert is beeping infuriating.

Totally agree, they really should ban the use of car horns in radio adverts!

Oh and sirens...I've no idea how it's even legal to have these on the radio.

[O'Rourke3]

Should be parent and toddler spaces, not parent and child spaces.

To solve it, they should put them further away from the shop. That way people who actually need them for the extra space to get small children out still get the space and lazy aholes, don't use them.A long time ago a family took a last space. Two children about 8 & 11 jumped out as I was pushing my infant past and got humpty when I pointed out they were dicks.... Both children were perfectly mobile. Dad just too lazy to walk....

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[calumhibee1]

Worse for me is the collection spaces - folk park in them then go and do the monthly shop.

And the number of disabled spaces - seems disproportionate to the number of disabled people (and the majority lie empty). Is there a ratio of disabled spaces per car park?

I’d wondered that myself. I’d imagine there’ll be a law where if one in twenty folk have a disabled badge for example that one in fifteen or so spaces will be required to be disabled (obviously I’m just plucking the figures out the sky).

[Scouse Hibee]

I’d wondered that myself. I’d imagine there’ll be a law where if one in twenty folk have a disabled badge for example that one in fifteen or so spaces will be required to be disabled (obviously I’m just plucking the figures out the sky).


The Department of transport recommends that where car parking provision is in excess of 50 spaces 4% should be reserved specifically for people with disabilities. In smaller car parks at least one space should be provided. Where possible reserved spaces should be provided within 50 metres of a point of entry to the development.

[calumhibee1]

The Department of transport recommends that where car parking provision is in excess of 50 spaces 4% should be reserved specifically for people with disabilities. In smaller car parks at least one space should be provided. Where possible reserved spaces should be provided within 50 metres of a point of entry to the development.

:aok:

Cheers Scouse.

[Hermit Crab]

Folk not using greenways out of hours. Milton road is a favourite for this.

[grunt]

Folk not using greenways out of hours. Milton road is a favourite for this.
This. And you're right about Milton Road.
And then drivers get humpty because you've driven past them.

[Killiehibbie]

Folk not using greenways out of hours. Milton road is a favourite for this.

Maybe they all got the same advice I was given on the helpline 25 years ago, the advice given was just to keep out of them at all times. It certainly made for an easy lunchtime run along Glasgow Rd

[Hermit Crab]

This. And you're right about Milton Road.
And then drivers get humpty because you've driven past them.


Maybe they all got the same advice I was given on the helpline 25 years ago, the advice given was just to keep out of them at all times. It certainly made for an easy lunchtime run along Glasgow Rd


There is now a bus lane camera in operation on the greenways at Milton road heading towards the crossroads with Sir Harry Lauder road just about 200yds from the lights. That will catch out a few queue jumpers during the hours of operation.

[hfc rd]

Halfords Autocentre - don’t touch them with a barge pole. Bunch of crooks.

[Alfiembra]

Being stuck behind someone at a roundabout that doesn't understand when it's clear to go. :confused:

[Scouse Hibee]

Driving in general whether it be roundabouts or give way at junctions etc,some people seem to take an age to process what is happening around them and have to come to a complete stop before they can actually process that the road is clear and was as they approached it which could clearly be seen.

[Just Alf]

Being stuck behind someone at a roundabout that doesn't understand when it's clear to go. :confused:Sorry... :-(









I moan at her all the time for it!

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[J-C]

2 in 1 here, pedestrians at zebra crossings.
1. The ones that just walk over without stopping to make sure it's safe to do so.

2. The ones that start on the crossing but veer away at an angle and take twice as long to cross.

[Peevemor]

Folk not using greenways out of hours. Milton road is a favourite for this.

When I was across in August I drove in from the airport to the middle of town. It was the first time I've driven in Edinburgh in nearly 15 years and It was dark, pishing down and the roads were busy.

It was basically impossible to drive correctly/safely while at the same time looking for and deciphering the signs with the greenways time info.

[Scouse Hibee]

Drivers who think they are alone on the road and completely disregard others, examples include slowing down to a crawl to look at door numbers, then stopping, then almost instantly moving off again at a snails pace. Then they decide they will do a uturn, no indication, no looking in mirrors just manoeuvre whenever suits them. It’s like they are in a different universe, absolutely no awareness of anything else around them.

[Onceinawhile]

Folk not using greenways out of hours. Milton road is a favourite for this.

Calder road is a shambles for this as well.

Coming into town the amount in the bus lane, the amount of people who have tried to cut the nose off my car turning in past stenhouse primary from the outside lane is too many to count.

Then they have the cheek to give you abuse for being in a bus lane. Idiots.

[matty_f]

When I was across in August I drove in from the airport to the middle of town. It was the first time I've driven in Edinburgh in nearly 15 years and It was dark, pishing down and the roads were busy.

It was basically impossible to drive correctly/safely while at the same time looking for and deciphering the signs with the greenways time info.

Aside from heading to the Gyle from Fife for work, I hardly ever drive in Edinburgh and it's a nightmare at night if you're not sure of the roads and layouts, even more so with the 20 limits that aren't applied consistently across the city.

[J-C]

Traffic in town today was just scandalous. Roadworks at the top of Hanover St been there for 2 weeks now, traffic tailed all the way to George IV Br with cars etc, blocking traffic on Princes St. Usual chaos at Picardy Pl area and traffic jams at the foot of Nth Br due to the usual nonsense at the Balmoral with dozens of buses taxis and cars, plus Leith St heading towards Leith. This city and Clowncil are just a joke and need emptied.

[StevieT]

Tractors that leave mud all over the road. Heading to work this morning in Blairgowrie; two tractors came out of a field just before Meigle and I couldn't see the road for the amount of mud on the road.

[Moulin Yarns]

Tractors that leave mud all over the road. Heading to work this morning in Blairgowrie; two tractors came out of a field just before Meigle and I couldn't see the road for the amount of mud on the road.

How do you expect them to get from A to B?

[Mibbes Aye]

When I was across in August I drove in from the airport to the middle of town. It was the first time I've driven in Edinburgh in nearly 15 years and It was dark, pishing down and the roads were busy.

It was basically impossible to drive correctly/safely while at the same time looking for and deciphering the signs with the greenways time info.

:agree:

Despite growing up in Edinburgh, passing my test there etc, I have lived away now for fifteen years. If I do come in it is by train the vast majority of times. Negotiating the road changes that have taken place over time is a nightmare. I’m reasonably comfortable with my usual route into ER or getting into Ocean Terminal or the surrounding area but anything else would have me wary.

[Jack]

Tractors that leave mud all over the road. Heading to work this morning in Blairgowrie; two tractors came out of a field just before Meigle and I couldn't see the road for the amount of mud on the road.


How do you expect them to get from A to B?

Used to be the case in London, might still be, that lorries leaving building sites had to be hosed down if they were muddy. It may even be the law all over but that's the only place I've ever seen action being taken.

Tractors and farmers is a funny one to get around I think. Yes they regularly leave muck on the roads but in winter there are some local authorities rely on their goodwill to clear the roads around their farms and the assistance they often provide to open up roads to villages long before the local authority snow clearing equipment would ever get there.

Not proven I'd say.

[Moulin Yarns]

Used to be the case in London, might still be, that lorries leaving building sites had to be hosed down if they were muddy. It may even be the law all over but that's the only place I've ever seen action being taken.

Tractors and farmers is a funny one to get around I think. Yes they regularly leave muck on the roads but in winter there are some local authorities rely on their goodwill to clear the roads around their farms and the assistance they often provide to open up roads to villages long before the local authority snow clearing equipment would ever get there.

Not proven I'd say.

Building sites can be covered by planning conditions with enforcement if necessary. Farmers don't even have to have number plates depending on the length of time they are on the road.

[Jones28]

Used to be the case in London, might still be, that lorries leaving building sites had to be hosed down if they were muddy. It may even be the law all over but that's the only place I've ever seen action being taken.

Tractors and farmers is a funny one to get around I think. Yes they regularly leave muck on the roads but in winter there are some local authorities rely on their goodwill to clear the roads around their farms and the assistance they often provide to open up roads to villages long before the local authority snow clearing equipment would ever get there.

Not proven I'd say.

I can’t speak for others but we have a brush that we use to clear the smaller roads after working out of fields. Faster main roads are tricker but can occasionally be done at night. Potato harvest is the worst culprit for this, but most responsible farmers will have signage up warning of mud and potential slip hazards.

[stuart-farquhar]

Drivers who think they are alone on the road and completely disregard others, examples include slowing down to a crawl to look at door numbers, then stopping, then almost instantly moving off again at a snails pace. Then they decide they will do a uturn, no indication, no looking in mirrors just manoeuvre whenever suits them. It’s like they are in a different universe, absolutely no awareness of anything else around them.

Spanish😂

[Future17]

Semple Street since part of Fountainbridge was closed to traffic after the explosion, particularly if travelling from East Fountainbridge.

It's a mixture of folk who don't know they're in the wrong lane, folk who are chancing it to skip the queue and folk who don't have the intelligence to think about it either way. The fact that the bus stop hasn't been temporarily suspended only exacerbates the problem.

[calumhibee1]

Semple Street since part of Fountainbridge was closed to traffic after the explosion, particularly if travelling from East Fountainbridge.

It's a mixture of folk who don't know they're in the wrong lane, folk who are chancing it to skip the queue and folk who don't have the intelligence to think about it either way. The fact that the bus stop hasn't been temporarily suspended only exacerbates the problem.

On that topic, Fountainbridge has opened back up this afternoon.

[Scouse Hibee]

Drivers that sit parked facing the oncoming traffic with their full headlights on, amazes me that some folk don’t realise how dazzling static headlights can be.

[Killiehibbie]

Drivers that sit parked facing the oncoming traffic with their full headlights on, amazes me that some folk don’t realise how dazzling static headlights can be.

I'm worried about the amount of drivers with such poor vision that they need their full beam on all the time when it's dark

[grunt]

Why is it that every time I see a driver behaving badly, cutting someone up, driving up a bus lane and cutting in, u-turns without signalling, pretty much any manoeuvre without signalling, why is it that every time it's a private hire driver?

[staunchhibby]

Glasgow road is notorious for it.Some taxi drivers drive on outside lane and then suddenly remember they are meant to be going to airport.

[Scouse Hibee]

Why is it that every time I see a driver behaving badly, cutting someone up, driving up a bus lane and cutting in, u-turns without signalling, pretty much any manoeuvre without signalling, why is it that every time it's a private hire driver?

Because your memory finds it easier to remember by association. Either that or the majority of PH drivers are absolute erseholes 😁

[lord bunberry]

Glasgow road is notorious for it.Some taxi drivers drive on outside lane and then suddenly remember they are meant to be going to airport.
Surely the outside lane is the correct lane if you’re going to the airport.

[Jack]

Temporary traffic lights.

One, two, three cars going through after the lights goes red. I've regularly seen cars overtaking the first car to stop to go through the red light and sometimes it's not even the car immediately behind!

[Hermit Crab]

The taxi driver who sat at 30mph or just under all the way from down Milton rd East last night because you had a fare. Its a 40mph road...:rolleyes:

[Scouse Hibee]

Surely the outside lane is the correct lane if you’re going to the airport.

That post confused me too.

[J-C]

The taxi driver who sat at 30mph or just under all the way from down Milton rd East last night because you had a fare. Its a 40mph road...:rolleyes:

You do know 40mph is a maximum and not a minimum and having a fare means nothing as the price is done on distance and not speed.

[J-C]

That post confused me too.

And me, if he meant inside lane then going to outside lane, well it's the correct thing to do, you should always drive on the inside lane whenever you can.

[overdrive]

Drivers that get irate at the driver in front for simply adhering to the laws of the road. Yesterday morning I was at the crossing at Elm Row and the green light allowing traffic to go from Montgomery Street onto Leith Walk turned to red. The car at the front stopped at the keep clear marking at Elm Row. The car behind started aggressively peeping their horn, overtook and drove through the red light at a relatively high speed, still peeping their horn as they passed.

[Danderhall Hibs]

And me, if he meant inside lane then going to outside lane, well it's the correct thing to do, you should always drive on the inside lane whenever you can.

:agree: folk that don’t know the difference between the inside and outside lane of a road.

[EH6 Hibby]

Folk that beep at you for accidentally being in the wrong lane. I was just approaching a roundabout, on the run up I realised I was in the wrong lane. There was no one behind me in my lane so I indicated to go into the right lane. I didn’t at any point try to force my way in, I was preparing to wait for a gap as there were only about 5 cars in the other lane, but I got beeped at by the person behind me in the other lane.

[lapsedhibee]

Surely the outside lane is the correct lane if you’re going to the airport.

You turn left from the Glasgow Road to get to the airport!

[lapsedhibee]

People who drive at 19 in a 20 limit.

[lord bunberry]

You turn left from the Glasgow Road to get to the airport!
True, but I would class that as the A8.

[Hibrandenburg]

Folk that beep at you for accidentally being in the wrong lane. I was just approaching a roundabout, on the run up I realised I was in the wrong lane. There was no one behind me in my lane so I indicated to go into the right lane. I didn’t at any point try to force my way in, I was preparing to wait for a gap as there were only about 5 cars in the other lane, but I got beeped at by the person behind me in the other lane.

This, holier than thou drivers in general. In Germany you can see where people come from by their number plate, driving in a new or strange city can be challenging if you don't know exactly where you're going, yet you still get idiots in Berlin having automotive apoplectic fits when strangers are trying to navigate their way around the city. Jeez, give the guy a break ffs.

[Smartie]

Drivers that sit parked facing the oncoming traffic with their full headlights on, amazes me that some folk don’t realise how dazzling static headlights can be.

I’m probably guilty of this from time to time.

These days I seldom drive and I’ve not owned a car for the best part of a decade. A few weeks ago I flew into Bristol airport and had to drive a hired car to Chepstow, my phone was broken and I didn’t know where I was going (for the first part of the journey anyway) so I was going to need road signs on roads I’d never driven before.

When you’re out in the sticks, on roads you don’t know and they are 60mph speed limit roads, dipped headlights don’t give you that much vision. The roads were quiet, as it was quite late. There is a part of my brain that is triggered whenever a car is oncoming to dip my headlights but as I go into a built up area that part of my brain isn’t triggered so readily, so a couple of times I was the guy you mentioned without initially realising.

Sorry about this.

[Mibbes Aye]

I’m probably guilty of this from time to time.

These days I seldom drive and I’ve not owned a car for the best part of a decade. A few weeks ago I flew into Bristol airport and had to drive a hired car to Chepstow, my phone was broken and I didn’t know where I was going (for the first part of the journey anyway) so I was going to need road signs on roads I’d never driven before.

When you’re out in the sticks, on roads you don’t know and they are 60mph speed limit roads, dipped headlights don’t give you that much vision. The roads were quiet, as it was quite late. There is a part of my brain that is triggered whenever a car is oncoming to dip my headlights but as I go into a built up area that part of my brain isn’t triggered so readily, so a couple of times I was the guy you mentioned without initially realising.

Sorry about this.

I’m sure we (drivers) have almost all been guilty of being on full beam, forgotten, and not realised until the passing car in the other lane flashes furiously.

Likewise, we have all had opposite lane drivers who didn’t remember they were on full beam until they were passing.

Most of the time people remember, but I have been guilty of the former and experienced the latter on more than a few occasions.

Country roads at night are particularly tricky, especially when you have lots of dips, peaks and troughs. Dipped headlights feel like full beam if you get them at the wrong moment. Combined with heavy cover overhead from trees and it is astonishing there aren’t more accidents.

[RyeSloan]

My most recent car has self levelling dipped headlights.

The only problem was the default ‘self level’ was so low I could only see about 10 yards in front of me.

This led to a wee google and the rather interesting fact that it’s dead easy (in this car at least) to adjust the headlight level. A wee turn or two of the screw on each soon sorted the problem and gave a much better view.

Now they are hardly facing the sky so won’t dazzle on coming cars but I do wonder if those that are driving cars where their dipped headlights are so useless on roads that don’t have streetlights that they need to put full beam on constant might benefit from the same small adjustment..

Obviously full beam is desirable when possible but since my little hack I really don’t need to use it nearly as much.

[Pretty Boy]

People who indicate right when exiting a roundabout. WTF?

[Future17]

The almost non-existent middle lane at the Old Dalkeith Road lights on the Cameron Toll roundabout (when coming from Dalkeith Road or Craigmillar).

I must have driven round that roundabout over a hundred times and I still have no idea what they were thinking putting it in there. It's practically begging for an accident.

[Wembley67]

People who indicate right when exiting a roundabout. WTF?

I had to thnk about that :greengrin Does this actually happen?? Mental!!

[speedy_gonzales]

Impatient pr!cks.
The A720 city bypass was heavily congested and slow moving westbound this afternoon around 1400hrs,,,, lost count of the number of drivers who exited then rejoined at each junction so as to use the clearer slip roads to gain a few spaces. Really petty driving and probably just added to the delays!

[bringbackbenny]

Impatient pr!cks.
The A720 city bypass was heavily congested and slow moving westbound this afternoon around 1400hrs,,,, lost count of the number of drivers who exited then rejoined at each junction so as to use the clearer slip roads to gain a few spaces. Really petty driving and probably just added to the delays!

Ditto every evening northbound before the Queensferry Crossing. Does my t**s in.

[Scouse Hibee]

When you come off the Western approach road at Westfield and the lanes merge opposite Wickes, some of the races to get prime spot are ridiculous.

[Pretty Boy]

Crazy overtaking.

I've just driven down to Glentress. Just as I was approaching Peeble a guy in a Range Rover swung right out into my path from the other side of the road to overtake a cyclist. I slammed my brakes on and swerved left, he pulled in inches past the cyclist and missed me by not much more.

There was absolutely nothing behind me and I hadn't seen anything in my mirror for miles. Would it have really hampered his journey to ease off for 3 or 4 seconds then overtake? Had I not been concentrating one or both of us would have been finishing our journey in a bodybag.

[lapsedhibee]

Approaching Sheriffhall roundabout on the A7 from the north, there's a choice of three lanes. There are five possible exits from the roundabout. Why does almost no-one, during their approach, indicate turning left if they intend to take the first exit, or indicate turning right if they intend to take the fifth exit? Sheriffhall's a bit of a mess but I don't understand why this basic behaviour seems to be suspended in the approach.

[pollution]

Approaching Sheriffhall roundabout on the A7 from the north, there's a choice of three lanes. There are five possible exits from the roundabout. Why does almost no-one, during their approach, indicate turning left if they intend to take the first exit, or indicate turning right if they intend to take the fifth exit? Sheriffhall's a bit of a mess but I don't understand why this basic behaviour seems to be suspended in the approach.


A lack of signalling is annoying but why would signalling in these two situations be necessary?

As I remember it, I was told by my instructor 41 years ago, that the idea of signalling is to inform other road users of my intentions.

As you say, coming from the north and turning left to Millerhill would not affect any other traffic ditto turning right.

Sticking to one's lane and remaining in it means that indicating would cause confusion in a traffic light controlled roundabout.

Ps I live nearby and have observed drivers' behaviour here for many years. Originally there were no lights.

[Wembley67]

A lack of signalling is annoying but why would signalling in these two situations be necessary?

As I remember it, I was told by my instructor 41 years ago, that the idea of signalling is to inform other road users of my intentions.

As you say, coming from the north and turning left to Millerhill would not affect any other traffic ditto turning right.

Sticking to one's lane and remaining in it means that indicating would cause confusion in a traffic light controlled roundabout.

Ps I live nearby and have observed drivers' behaviour here for many years. Originally there were no lights.

I'm not that familiar with Sheriffhall although I think now folk 'tend' to indicate in lanes that are only meant to go e.g. left as there are so many maniacs in the wrong lane these days it's gone to just being courteous and having a safer driving environment.

[lapsedhibee]

A lack of signalling is annoying but why would signalling in these two situations be necessary?

As I remember it, I was told by my instructor 41 years ago, that the idea of signalling is to inform other road users of my intentions.

As you say, coming from the north and turning left to Millerhill would not affect any other traffic ditto turning right.

Sticking to one's lane and remaining in it means that indicating would cause confusion in a traffic light controlled roundabout.

Ps I live nearby and have observed drivers' behaviour here for many years. Originally there were no lights.

The right hand of the three approach lanes is for traffic going to the A7 southbound and A720 westbound. It helps to know what other people intend to do. That's what signalling is for. To indicate a driver's intention. It's probably not ever "necessary" to signal.

[McD]

The folk who only indicate after beginning to turn the wheel and change direction - it’s pointless now, I can see your car changing direction already, the indicator is to let people know what you’re going to do, not what you’re already doing! I can see the car changing direction, what would have been helpful is an indication of what you planned to do before you actually did it :grr:

[Scouse Hibee]

The folk who only indicate after beginning to turn the wheel and change direction - it’s pointless now, I can see your car changing direction already, the indicator is to let people know what you’re going to do, not what you’re already doing! I can see the car changing direction, what would have been helpful is an indication of what you planned to do before you actually did it :grr:

Agreed, Mirror, Signal, Manoeuvre.

[Jones28]

The folk who only indicate after beginning to turn the wheel and change direction - it’s pointless now, I can see your car changing direction already, the indicator is to let people know what you’re going to do, not what you’re already doing! I can see the car changing direction, what would have been helpful is an indication of what you planned to do before you actually did it :grr:

Oh that’s so annoying. Brake lights first leaving everyone guessing than the indicators come on.

[J-C]

People who signal left at Sth Charlotte St to go right and then signal left at Lothian Rd from Princes St, these are basically one way streets and you don't need to indicate, also people who cannot stay in their bloody lane when going from Sth Charlotte St to Lothian road, number of times I've nearly had my nose clipped because some drivers cannot stay in their lanes.

[Scouse Hibee]

Drove behind a Ford Focus ST tonight from Jocks Lodge to Morrison street where I lost him at the lights. Throughout the entire journey he drove like a ****** imbecile, using bus lane to undetrtake, overtaking when there really wasn’t a need or barely space, taking a right hand lane only to beat a queue then forcing his way back in causing others to brake and yet at Morrison street he was still only three cars ahead of me, nice car driven by a total ****er.

[Hermit Crab]

I'm amazed at the amount of drivers still using the bus lane on Milton rd during the hours of operation to skip the queue despite there being a bus lane camera now in operation. I was sat in the queue of traffic waiting to turn right and there was 4 or 5 cars or vans that tore up the bus lane and will now be getting hit with a £60 council issued fine right before Xmas. Numpties!!

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

I'm amazed at the amount of drivers still using the bus lane on Milton rd during the hours of operation to skip the queue despite there being a bus lane camera now in operation. I was sat in the queue of traffic waiting to turn right and there was 4 or 5 cars or vans that tore up the bus lane and will now be getting hit with a £60 council issued fine right before Xmas. Numpties!!

Same as the one on Liberton Road heading left to Gilmerton Road.

Personally think the cameras there are a crock of s*it and it was one bus lane I always used to use at any time, but they are clearly marked as having cameras, folk still tear down it either oblivious to the camera signs or thinking its doesn't apply to them, but will end up with a fine regardless.

[J-C]

Same as the one on Liberton Road heading left to Gilmerton Road.

Personally think the cameras there are a crock of s*it and it was one bus lane I always used to use at any time, but they are clearly marked as having cameras, folk still tear down it either oblivious to the camera signs or thinking its doesn't apply to them, but will end up with a fine regardless.

I'm a cabbie and the one at Liberton Rd is a waste, just a money making sceme.

[Future17]

I'm amazed at the amount of drivers still using the bus lane on Milton rd during the hours of operation to skip the queue despite there being a bus lane camera now in operation. I was sat in the queue of traffic waiting to turn right and there was 4 or 5 cars or vans that tore up the bus lane and will now be getting hit with a £60 council issued fine right before Xmas. Numpties!!

Travelling towards Musselburgh or in the opposite direction?

[J-C]

Travelling towards Musselburgh or in the opposite direction?

Towards Musselburgh just past the Hope Lane junction.

[Hermit Crab]

Travelling towards Musselburgh or in the opposite direction?


Towards Musselburgh just past the Hope Lane junction.


What J-C said.

[Future17]

Towards Musselburgh just past the Hope Lane junction.


What J-C said.

Ta. I thought I'd seen that but it struck me as strange. Is the right hand land not right turn only and, often, the busier lane?

Seems strange to force straight-on or left-turn traffic into that lane, as well as potentially dangerous when it comes to traffic re-entering that lane after the bus lane ends.

[J-C]

Ta. I thought I'd seen that but it struck me as strange. Is the right hand land not right turn only and, often, the busier lane?

Seems strange to force straight-on or left-turn traffic into that lane, as well as potentially dangerous when it comes to traffic re-entering that lane after the bus lane ends.

There's many who skip the traffic by using that lane and then indicate to go back into the right hand lane, there's a bus stop just after and the bus sometimes has to wait to get into it.

[Hermit Crab]

Ta. I thought I'd seen that but it struck me as strange. Is the right hand land not right turn only and, often, the busier lane?

Seems strange to force straight-on or left-turn traffic into that lane, as well as potentially dangerous when it comes to traffic re-entering that lane after the bus lane ends.


Too many ass holes would tear up the bus lane and try to force themselves into to RH turn only lane after the bus stop which would often lead to angry exchanges and road rage incidents.

[Future17]

There's many who skip the traffic by using that lane and then indicate to go back into the right hand lane, there's a bus stop just after and the bus sometimes has to wait to get into it.


Too many ass holes would tear up the bus lane and try to force themselves into to RH turn only lane after the bus stop which would often lead to angry exchanges and road rage incidents.

Fair points, although I've never seen that happen historically. I think it's more problematic extending the RH lane queue artificially, particularly with some of the nonsense which goes on in the large box junction across from the Brunstane primary exit from Magdalene.

In fact, there's a similar bus lane camera set up before the right turn to the Chesser ASDA / World of Football and the RH lane traffic is often obstructed by cars which are queuing having waited too long to return to the LH lane.

To me, it just shifts the problem rather than solve it. It does make money though.

[staunchhibby]

Cars with only one headlight working

[Scouse Hibee]

Drivers who ignore priority/give way to oncoming traffic signs.

[jabis]

Having someone without a driving licence in charge of the council's traffic policy.
Leith walk....again.

[Sylar]

Has there been a sudden increase in folk being charged for running red lights? Because the number of people I've observed in Edinburgh and Glasgow who just nonchalantly go through a red light well after it's changed is verging on the ridiculous recently.

[Scouse Hibee]

Any fool can learn to drive, unfortunately most of them do.

[hfc rd]

Drivers that ignore to slow down & stop when pedestrians are looking to cross the road at a zebra crossing.

[matty_f]

Drivers who ignore priority/give way to oncoming traffic signs.

I had a disagreement :greengrin with a private hire driver in Troon who ignored that I had priority. We had a bit of a stand off until he backed up, then tried to go radge about it.

He said nobody paid attention to those signs. :rolleyes:

[matty_f]

Drivers that ignore to slow down & stop when pedestrians are looking to cross the road at a zebra crossing.

I'd charge them with dangerous driving if it was up to me. There's a zebra crossing near the school my daughter goes to and folk drive through that all the time, even with kids starting to cross on it.

At the risk of sounding like a radge (given the post above), I've had many rows with folk who have ignored it and I've challenged them on it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Folk who ignore the one way section of Jane Street and attempt to head towards Leith Walk.

[Pretty Boy]

I had a disagreement :greengrin with a private hire driver in Troon who ignored that I had priority. We had a bit of a stand off until he backed up, then tried to go radge about it.

He said nobody paid attention to those signs. :rolleyes:

I was driving along McDonald Road a few weeks back towards Broughton Road/Bonington Road. Guy coming towards the car in front of me was clearly going to ignore the priority sign. The guy in front of me was driving an old Ford Fiesta that had seen better days whilst Mr ignorant was in a BMW M4. Guy in front of me obviously knew the guy wasn't going to stop but just kept going anyway as he both had right of way and clearly just didn't give a toss. Mr BMW still tried to bully his way through, at a fair speed, then when realising the other guy wasn't going to bow down to him had to swerve to avoid the oncoming car. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who took great delight in watching him ram the kerb with his back tyre whic promptly burst and the alloy was visibly ****ed as well.

[Killiehibbie]

I was driving along McDonald Road a few weeks back towards Broughton Road/Bonington Road. Guy coming towards the car in front of me was clearly going to ignore the priority sign. The guy in front of me was driving an old Ford Fiesta that had seen better days whilst Mr ignorant was in a BMW M4. Guy in front of me obviously knew the guy wasn't going to stop but just kept going anyway as he both had right of way and clearly just didn't give a toss. Mr BMW still tried to bully his way through, at a fair speed, then when realising the other guy wasn't going to bow down to him had to swerve to avoid the oncoming car. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who took great delight in watching him ram the kerb with his back tyre whic promptly burst and the alloy was visibly ****ed as well.


Great when you see something like that. Do you know how important I am and how expensive my car is? I do know your alloy probably cost more than my Fiesta is worth.

[matty_f]

I was driving along McDonald Road a few weeks back towards Broughton Road/Bonington Road. Guy coming towards the car in front of me was clearly going to ignore the priority sign. The guy in front of me was driving an old Ford Fiesta that had seen better days whilst Mr ignorant was in a BMW M4. Guy in front of me obviously knew the guy wasn't going to stop but just kept going anyway as he both had right of way and clearly just didn't give a toss. Mr BMW still tried to bully his way through, at a fair speed, then when realising the other guy wasn't going to bow down to him had to swerve to avoid the oncoming car. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who took great delight in watching him ram the kerb with his back tyre whic promptly burst and the alloy was visibly ****ed as well.

Splendid.

I hope Fiesta guy kept driving. :greengrin

[speedy_gonzales]

I'd charge them with dangerous driving if it was up to me. There's a zebra crossing near the school my daughter goes to and folk drive through that all the time, even with kids starting to cross on it.

At the risk of sounding like a radge (given the post above), I've had many rows with folk who have ignored it and I've challenged them on it.

I'd really worry if there was a zebra crossing outside my daughters school. A zebra crossing relies on the road users stopping as soon as the pedestrian steps out, but many pedestrians just stand and wait for traffic to stop, considerate drivers will always anticipate this but a minority (I hope) play by the rules and will just keep going.
Even when you step out you're putting faith in the drivers to have seen you in the crossing,,,, there are too many accidents these days where the driver will claim "I never saw that" or "they came from nowhere"!

[lapsedhibee]

I was driving along McDonald Road a few weeks back towards Broughton Road/Bonington Road. Guy coming towards the car in front of me was clearly going to ignore the priority sign. The guy in front of me was driving an old Ford Fiesta that had seen better days whilst Mr ignorant was in a BMW M4. Guy in front of me obviously knew the guy wasn't going to stop but just kept going anyway as he both had right of way and clearly just didn't give a toss. Mr BMW still tried to bully his way through, at a fair speed, then when realising the other guy wasn't going to bow down to him had to swerve to avoid the oncoming car. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who took great delight in watching him ram the kerb with his back tyre whic promptly burst and the alloy was visibly ****ed as well.

Excellent.

[McD]

Splendid.

I hope Fiesta guy kept driving. :greengrin


I hope the fiesta guy gave a big smile and a cheery wave to the bmw bloke :greengrin

[O'Rourke3]

I was driving along McDonald Road a few weeks back towards Broughton Road/Bonington Road. Guy coming towards the car in front of me was clearly going to ignore the priority sign. The guy in front of me was driving an old Ford Fiesta that had seen better days whilst Mr ignorant was in a BMW M4. Guy in front of me obviously knew the guy wasn't going to stop but just kept going anyway as he both had right of way and clearly just didn't give a toss. Mr BMW still tried to bully his way through, at a fair speed, then when realising the other guy wasn't going to bow down to him had to swerve to avoid the oncoming car. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who took great delight in watching him ram the kerb with his back tyre whic promptly burst and the alloy was visibly ****ed as well.So wished that was me in the Fiesta. Fedup with merge lane chicken with van drivers who try and race to get one space in front in static traffic.

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[Moulin Yarns]

I'd really worry if there was a zebra crossing outside my daughters school. A zebra crossing relies on the road users stopping as soon as the pedestrian steps out, but many pedestrians just stand and wait for traffic to stop, considerate drivers will always anticipate this but a minority (I hope) play by the rules and will just keep going.
Even when you step out you're putting faith in the drivers to have seen you in the crossing,,,, there are too many accidents these days where the driver will claim "I never saw that" or "they came from nowhere"!

The pick-up driver who didn't stop when I was already on a crossing in a supermarket car park probably regrets it as I was not fully in control of the loaded trolley that ran along the side of his vehicle. :wink:

[matty_f]

The pick-up driver who didn't stop when I was already on a crossing in a supermarket car park probably regrets it as I was not fully in control of the loaded trolley that ran along the side of his vehicle. :wink:

That's a shame for the guy, eh?

Hope your messages were ok. :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

That's a shame for the guy, eh?

Hope your messages were ok. :greengrin

No drinks were spilled in the 'accident' :wink:

[weecounty hibby]

Folk who don't understand how a roundabout works. I sat behind a guy today at a four exit roundabout and all the folk at said roundabout exits were all sat staring at each other waiting for someone to move!! ****wits

[EH6 Hibby]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but People knowingly driving up the wrong lane because one is empty and then indicating to get in does my absolute box in. York place is shocking for it, as you come towards the bus station, it moves to one lane for going straight on, but you get folk driving up the lane to turn right and then pushing their way in. The same people then drive up the lane that’s for turning right to Leith Street to get past everyone in the correct lane, and pushing in again to go down Leith Walk. I’ve had to take the car to work the last 2 days and driving through town sends me into a rage. :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Not a peeve but an observation. On 31st I drove round sherriffhall and the next roundabout, Craighall? in the dark and, while I was a little confused to begin with, the lit road markings on the roundabouts made it a lot easier to get the lanes right.

[McD]

Not a peeve but an observation. On 31st I drove round sherriffhall and the next roundabout, Craighall? in the dark and, while I was a little confused to begin with, the lit road markings on the roundabouts made it a lot easier to get the lanes right.


the wife and I drove round there on Monday, she wouldn’t believe that the cats eyes change with the lights to give indication as to which lane you should in, had to make her watch as the lights changed to see it :greengrin

[Rocky]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but People knowingly driving up the wrong lane because one is empty and then indicating to get in does my absolute box in. York place is shocking for it, as you come towards the bus station, it moves to one lane for going straight on, but you get folk driving up the lane to turn right and then pushing their way in. The same people then drive up the lane that’s for turning right to Leith Street to get past everyone in the correct lane, and pushing in again to go down Leith Walk. I’ve had to take the car to work the last 2 days and driving through town sends me into a rage. :greengrin

I get in more of a rage at the people who let them in. I'm often tempted to become a lane jumper myself seeing as they make it so easy.

[Mibbes Aye]

Not a peeve but an observation. On 31st I drove round sherriffhall and the next roundabout, Craighall? in the dark and, while I was a little confused to begin with, the lit road markings on the roundabouts made it a lot easier to get the lanes right.

The difference in Sherriffhall over the years is crazy. It used to be bedlam, but gradually, order has been introduced, step by step

I used to do the JustinLees roundabout twice a day, not far down the road, but haven’t driven it for two or three years now. That was always a belter, one where you had to just go for it and hope you were right :greengrin

[pollution]

The difference in Sherriffhall over the years is crazy. It used to be bedlam, but gradually, order has been introduced, step by step

I used to do the JustinLees roundabout twice a day, not far down the road, but haven’t driven it for two or three years now. That was always a belter, one where you had to just go for it and hope you were right :greengrin


Remember when it was first built there were no traffic lights, 1988 I think.

[J-C]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but People knowingly driving up the wrong lane because one is empty and then indicating to get in does my absolute box in. York place is shocking for it, as you come towards the bus station, it moves to one lane for going straight on, but you get folk driving up the lane to turn right and then pushing their way in. The same people then drive up the lane that’s for turning right to Leith Street to get past everyone in the correct lane, and pushing in again to go down Leith Walk. I’ve had to take the car to work the last 2 days and driving through town sends me into a rage. :greengrin
TBF its 2 lanes that merge into 1 and one of them is a bus lane so people tend to avoid that lane. The ones near Picardy is simply people avoiding the buses on the left, the traffic management there is shocking and CEC have cocked up the whole area.

[Hibee87]

TBF its 2 lanes that merge into 1 and one of them is a bus lane so people tend to avoid that lane. The ones near Picardy is simply people avoiding the buses on the left, the traffic management there is shocking and CEC have cocked up the whole area.

Ive stopped driving along there since it re oppened and instead cut down at Dundas street then snake along to Annandale street to get onto Leith Walk.

As you said, its bus lane when in operation on the left on the approach before splitting for right turn to Bus Station and left for straight on. I dont find that is too much of an issue TBH, its the next bit. Either sit behind a couple of busses (as you cant see past them usually) or pull onto the right hand lane and hope its not congested further up and you can easily pull back into the left lane. Add in when the trams eventually make it down Leith Walk. Chaos will be frightening.

[matty_f]

TBF its 2 lanes that merge into 1 and one of them is a bus lane so people tend to avoid that lane. The ones near Picardy is simply people avoiding the buses on the left, the traffic management there is shocking and CEC have cocked up the whole area.

:agree: It's a terribly designed bit of road, but that's broadly in keeping with the whole city centre, to be honest.

The council have done a good job of making a city that is entirely unfriendly to cars. I only drive through the centre as a last resort. I hate it, and would 100% rather take a train or a tram into Edinburgh rather than driving.

[lord bunberry]

TBF its 2 lanes that merge into 1 and one of them is a bus lane so people tend to avoid that lane. The ones near Picardy is simply people avoiding the buses on the left, the traffic management there is shocking and CEC have cocked up the whole area.
That’s going the other way.

[Jones28]

Drivers of delivery lorries from builders merchants (Beatsons, jewsons etc) are some of sketchiest people on the roads. I had another run in today when one tried to cut across two lanes of traffic at Newbridge. Maybe they’re a glutton for a good horn blasting?

[J-C]

That’s going the other way.

What's going the other way?

Heading to Elm Row at the end if York place, people go to the right land due to the buses at the stop, they then try to get back into the left lane to head to Leith.

[grunt]

Heading to Elm Row at the end if York place, people go to the right land due to the buses at the stop, they then try to get back into the left lane to head to Leith.I haven't been that way recently, but didn't this used to be 2 lanes at York Place going to 3 at the roundabout? With 2 lanes heading north to Leith and London Road, and one lane back up to Calton Road and the Bridges?

Is it no longer 3 lanes at the junction?

[J-C]

I haven't been that way recently, but didn't this used to be 2 lanes at York Place going to 3 at the roundabout? With 2 lanes heading north to Leith and London Road, and one lane back up to Calton Road and the Bridges?

Is it no longer 3 lanes at the junction?

No all changed, no roundabout any more. 2 lanes after York Pl, 1 heading to Leith and London Rd, the other heading towards Leith St and town. All controlled by traffic lights.

[grunt]

No all changed, no roundabout any more. 2 lanes after York Pl, 1 heading to Leith and London Rd, the other heading towards Leith St and town. All controlled by traffic lights.Ok thanks. Possibly a good job I've steered clear of that junction recently!

[EH6 Hibby]

TBF its 2 lanes that merge into 1 and one of them is a bus lane so people tend to avoid that lane. The ones near Picardy is simply people avoiding the buses on the left, the traffic management there is shocking and CEC have cocked up the whole area.

Yeah but the lane does not merge at the junction to go to the bus station, it merges at the top of Dublin Street. Everyone else merges there, but you get the chancers who drive past everyone and indicate at the front of the queue. The next part, both times there were no buses at the bus stop so there was no excuse for being in the wrong lane.

[lapsedhibee]

Yeah but the lane does not merge at the junction to go to the bus station, it merges at the top of Dublin Street.
Nah, the end of the bus lane, and merging arrows, are about halfway between Dublin St and Elder St (the bus station turnoff).

[RyeSloan]

Yeah but the lane does not merge at the junction to go to the bus station, it merges at the top of Dublin Street. Everyone else merges there, but you get the chancers who drive past everyone and indicate at the front of the queue. The next part, both times there were no buses at the bus stop so there was no excuse for being in the wrong lane.

I assume the single lane part will ultimately change when they move the ‘temporary’ tram stop?

[J-C]

Yeah but the lane does not merge at the junction to go to the bus station, it merges at the top of Dublin Street. Everyone else merges there, but you get the chancers who drive past everyone and indicate at the front of the queue. The next part, both times there were no buses at the bus stop so there was no excuse for being in the wrong lane.

I think the end of York Pl, people don't realise it has 2 different lanes ahead, before both lanes went to same destination, now there are 2 lanes going separate ways.

[Scouse Hibee]

It used to be that if you couldn’t find a place to stop out of the line of traffic, you kept moving until you found a suitable place. The amount of folk that just stop where ever they want and put their hazards on absolutely does my nut in.

[lord bunberry]

What's going the other way?

Heading to Elm Row at the end if York place, people go to the right land due to the buses at the stop, they then try to get back into the left lane to head to Leith.
It’s the people who head along the right hand lane that’s meant for turning right at the bus station the poster was talking about.

[J-C]

It’s the people who head along the right hand lane that’s meant for turning right at the bus station the poster was talking about.

I get that but the left lane is a bus lane and as you know, most eejits dont realise its only a bus lane at certain times, its 2 lanes from the lights at St Andrew's Sq, so it stays that way until it merges at Elder St.

[matty_f]

I get that but the left lane is a bus lane and as you know, most eejits dont realise its only a bus lane at certain times, its 2 lanes from the lights at St Andrew's Sq, so it stays that way until it merges at Elder St.

I'm with you on this one, JC. I can totally see how folk get caught out on that section of road - even the bus lane operating times isn't the only factor as you also get cars parking in the left hand lane from time to time which forces traffic into the right hand lane.

It's fine if you are familiar with the read but I think the council could do a lot more to inform people of which lane they should be in right along that street.

[Smartie]

They seem to have made changes to junctions all over the city to make them more like this.

Drivers who are maybe not on the road often, are infrequent visitors to the city or haven't been here for a while should probably be forgiven for anticipating these junctions being how they used to be.

Off the top of my head I'm thinking of a few on Telford Road, the one near Drumsheugh Gardens and possibly a few on Leith Walk.

It is quite easy to get them wrong.

[overdrive]

They seem to have made changes to junctions all over the city to make them more like this.

Drivers who are maybe not on the road often, are infrequent visitors to the city or haven't been here for a while should probably be forgiven for anticipating these junctions being how they used to be.

Off the top of my head I'm thinking of a few on Telford Road, the one near Drumsheugh Gardens and possibly a few on Leith Walk.

It is quite easy to get them wrong.

Telford Road caught me out. They have reversed which lanes you should be in for going straight on.

[Hiber-nation]

Getting a FPN for driving on the bus lane in Milton Road at 6.15 on Xmas Eve. No traffic on the road and I wasn't remotely thinking it was a normal week day :grr:

[Pretty Boy]

Getting a FPN for driving on the bus lane in Milton Road at 6.15 on Xmas Eve. No traffic on the road and I wasn't remotely thinking it was a normal week day :grr:

That bus lane camera is going to cause an accident. Ridiculously badly placed.

It would be better placed further along past the crossroads before the Milton Fry etc. Folk absolutely fly along the bus lane there and try to force their way in at speed.

[J-C]

Getting a FPN for driving on the bus lane in Milton Road at 6.15 on Xmas Eve. No traffic on the road and I wasn't remotely thinking it was a normal week day :grr:

The lanes are ongoing no matter what time of year, they should be classed as a sunday on public holidays like this.

[Hiber-nation]

The lanes are ongoing no matter what time of year, they should be classed as a sunday on public holidays like this.

Aye but it was Xmas Eve, a Tuesday and a normal working day, my own fault!

[Hermit Crab]

Getting a FPN for driving on the bus lane in Milton Road at 6.15 on Xmas Eve. No traffic on the road and I wasn't remotely thinking it was a normal week day :grr:


That camera will have made a absolute fortune since its launch at the end of September. Folk zip along there hoping to skip the queue.

[Thief]

Not so much a peeve but a genuine query!
The junction on the Queensferry Road at Craigleith shopping centre, where you have the 2 almost half lanes for turning into the shopping centre or going straight on for about 10 yards to turn into Groathill.
If you intend turning into Groathill, do you wait for the green filter arrow, or do you go straight on when the light changes to green for straight ahead, and just wait for a gap in the traffic?
If I’m at the front I go forward and wait for a gap but most behind me wait for the green filter arrow.
Just wondering if I’ve got it wrong! [emoji848]


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[J-C]

Not so much a peeve but a genuine query!
The junction on the Queensferry Road at Craigleith shopping centre, where you have the 2 almost half lanes for turning into the shopping centre or going straight on for about 10 yards to turn into Groathill.
If you intend turning into Groathill, do you wait for the green filter arrow, or do you go straight on when the light changes to green for straight ahead, and just wait for a gap in the traffic?
If I’m at the front I go forward and wait for a gap but most behind me wait for the green filter arrow.
Just wondering if I’ve got it wrong! [emoji848]


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Green filter to turn right, if you go before, you're turning into oncoming traffic.

[Thief]

Green filter to turn right, if you go before, you're turning into oncoming traffic.

I’ll stop doing it lol.
What confuses me is that there is a specific lane to wait in which doesn’t hinder oncoming traffic, and technically I’m going straight on, then turning right.
Don’t fancy falling foul of the law tho [emoji20]


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[J-C]

I’ll stop doing it lol.
What confuses me is that there is a specific lane to wait in which doesn’t hinder oncoming traffic, and technically I’m going straight on, then turning right.
Don’t fancy falling foul of the law tho [emoji20]


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You're still technically turning right, not going straight ahead, hence why you wait for the filter. 😁👍

[lapsedhibee]

Not so much a peeve but a genuine query!
The junction on the Queensferry Road at Craigleith shopping centre, where you have the 2 almost half lanes for turning into the shopping centre or going straight on for about 10 yards to turn into Groathill.
If you intend turning into Groathill, do you wait for the green filter arrow, or do you go straight on when the light changes to green for straight ahead, and just wait for a gap in the traffic?
If I’m at the front I go forward and wait for a gap but most behind me wait for the green filter arrow.
Just wondering if I’ve got it wrong!

Never done it in a car, but I do what you do regularly on a bike. There's about 30 yards between the lights and the Groathill Avenue turnoff, and there's no reason not to proceed (ie no contraindications like pedestrians crossing or other vehicles entering the junction).

[Thief]

Never done it in a car, but I do what you do regularly on a bike. The first white arrow on the road after those lights is a straight-ahead arrow, not a right-turn arrow, so I think it's well justified to proceed on the straight-ahead filter, and then wait for oncoming traffic to stop, or break, before you turn right into Groathill. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever!

That was always my take on it, but did notice others behind me stayed put until the filter came on.
Was only after that happened a few times that I thought I’d post here.
Suppose the definitive answer would be from traffic cops.


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[The_Exile]

Car behind me tonight had full beams on from commercial street to Musselburgh. I could barely see by the time I got home. Should be a hanging offence IMO.

[Dmas]

That was always my take on it, but did notice others behind me stayed put until the filter came on.
Was only after that happened a few times that I thought I’d post here.
Suppose the definitive answer would be from traffic cops.


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I was under the impression green is for both moves, obviously you can only turn right in a break of traffic and the filter came on incase of times there is no break thus giving that lane the opportunity to turn?

I’m praying this is right or I too have been guilty of causing Peev

[Future17]

Not so much a peeve but a genuine query!
The junction on the Queensferry Road at Craigleith shopping centre, where you have the 2 almost half lanes for turning into the shopping centre or going straight on for about 10 yards to turn into Groathill.
If you intend turning into Groathill, do you wait for the green filter arrow, or do you go straight on when the light changes to green for straight ahead, and just wait for a gap in the traffic?
If I’m at the front I go forward and wait for a gap but most behind me wait for the green filter arrow.
Just wondering if I’ve got it wrong! [emoji848]


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I don't know the junction well, but is the green you move on just a green or a green straight ahead arrow?

If it's the former I'd say you're right; if it's the latter I'd say you're wrong.

[Thief]

I don't know the junction well, but is the green you move on just a green or a green straight ahead arrow?

If it's the former I'd say you're right; if it's the latter I'd say you're wrong.

I’ll have to confirm that next time I’m there, but from memory, it’s 2 separate green lights. One for straight ahead and one that comes on a couple minutes later for turning right.
As Groathill has a lane and is 10 yards further on than shopping centre, I’ve always assumed that the green light for the right turn was ONLY for the shopping centre, but recently I’ve noticed I’m the only one that moves forward for Groathill while the shop centre red light shows.
All very complicated but does seem that others do same as me!


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[J-C]

I don't know the junction well, but is the green you move on just a green or a green straight ahead arrow?

If it's the former I'd say you're right; if it's the latter I'd say you're wrong.

The lane he is in is a right turn, there are 2 next each other, one for shopping centre, other for Groathill.

[silverhibee]

I’ll have to confirm that next time I’m there, but from memory, it’s 2 separate green lights. One for straight ahead and one that comes on a couple minutes later for turning right.
As Groathill has a lane and is 10 yards further on than shopping centre, I’ve always assumed that the green light for the right turn was ONLY for the shopping centre, but recently I’ve noticed I’m the only one that moves forward for Groathill while the shop centre red light shows.
All very complicated but does seem that others do same as me!


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Is this the lights at McDonald's and your coming into town, left lane for straight ahead right for for Craigleith retail centre, if so and you are turning right and no traffic coming towards you you can go, if there is a gap in traffic I go for it.

[Thief]

Is this the lights at McDonald's and your coming into town, left lane for straight ahead right for for Craigleith retail centre, if so and you are turning right and no traffic coming towards you you can go, if there is a gap in traffic I go for it.

No, it’s heading out of town on the Queensferry Road, at the traffic lights at Craigleith shopping centre.
I think I’ll wait at the red light in future, as it’s a heavy penalty if I’ve been in the wrong!
I’ll try and check with the police.


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[staunchhibby]

Wish motorists would ensure all there lights are working.Seen lots of cars with only one headlight working

[J-C]

No, it’s heading out of town on the Queensferry Road, at the traffic lights at Craigleith shopping centre.
I think I’ll wait at the red light in future, as it’s a heavy penalty if I’ve been in the wrong!
I’ll try and check with the police.


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Just drove in this way, there's a large right arrow on both lanes at the lights with Superstore written on the ground. There's then smaller arrows facing right in each lane after the lights, indicating which way and lane to be in, so it's definitely a right filter for the lane heading to Groathill.

[lord bunberry]

No, it’s heading out of town on the Queensferry Road, at the traffic lights at Craigleith shopping centre.
I think I’ll wait at the red light in future, as it’s a heavy penalty if I’ve been in the wrong!
I’ll try and check with the police.


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The right turn to the shopping centre is the same light you use for turning to Groathill. The other light is for going straight ahead only. At least that’s my interpretation of it. :greengrin

[Speedy]

Wish motorists would ensure all there lights are working.Seen lots of cars with only one headlight working

Tends to be a blessing these days. Preferable to the ultra bright LEDs in newer cars.

[Pete]

Not so much a peeve but a genuine query!
The junction on the Queensferry Road at Craigleith shopping centre, where you have the 2 almost half lanes for turning into the shopping centre or going straight on for about 10 yards to turn into Groathill.
If you intend turning into Groathill, do you wait for the green filter arrow, or do you go straight on when the light changes to green for straight ahead, and just wait for a gap in the traffic?
If I’m at the front I go forward and wait for a gap but most behind me wait for the green filter arrow.
Just wondering if I’ve got it wrong! [emoji848]


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When I drove regularly in Edinburgh I never went until the filter if I was turning into Sainsbury's. If I was turning into Groathill Road I went as soon as the normal green light came on and waited until it was clear.

Cant remember why but it seemed like common sense at the time 😁

[speedy_gonzales]

Folk that panic when weather conditions are poor.
Was travelling along the city bypass early Saturday when the rain wasn't taking its time in coming down. Heading east, just before the Dreghorn slip, there was a ripple of brake lights up ahead so I eased off the power and there going across the carriageway was what looked like a river due to the drains not managing to handle the volume of water. I knew just to grip the steering and neither brake nor accelerate through the water but the driver next to me panicked, jumped on the brakes and ended up fish-tailing, almost wiping us both out!

[McD]

Folk that panic when weather conditions are poor.
Was travelling along the city bypass early Saturday when the rain wasn't taking its time in coming down. Heading east, just before the Dreghorn slip, there was a ripple of brake lights up ahead so I eased off the power and there going across the carriageway was what looked like a river due to the drains not managing to handle the volume of water. I knew just to grip the steering and neither brake nor accelerate through the water but the driver next to me panicked, jumped on the brakes and ended up fish-tailing, almost wiping us both out!



same when it snows, so many people don’t drive to the conditions

[Alfiembra]

Can anyone explain what the solid white lines that have appeared on the roundabout on Broomhouse Road at Bankhead Drive are all about?
If you are in the inside lane coming onto the roundabout and intending to head straight through from any direction, to me it looks like they want to direct you across the lanes of the roundabout instead of keeping to your lane. I've ignored them till now but wondered if I was doing sometning wrong.

[speedy_gonzales]

Can anyone explain what the solid white lines that have appeared on the roundabout on Broomhouse Road at Bankhead Drive are all about?
If you are in the inside lane coming onto the roundabout and intending to head straight through from any direction, to me it looks like they want to direct you across the lanes of the roundabout instead of keeping to your lane. I've ignored them till now but wondered if I was doing sometning wrong.
They've been there for at least 6 months, I think they're a hybrid of lake markers and stop lines. There are certain times of the day the R-A-B gets blocked so rather than paint yellow boxes they've came up with some road markings that I've never seen in any Highway Code book.

[Alfiembra]

They've been there for at least 6 months, I think they're a hybrid of lake markers and stop lines. There are certain times of the day the R-A-B gets blocked so rather than paint yellow boxes they've came up with some road markings that I've never seen in any Highway Code book.

Ah starting to make a bit more sense. So I guess as you say when it's busy if you get caught on the R-A-B and can't exit, you wait at the solid line so that other traffic can still pass in front of you.

[Hibrandenburg]

Car behind me tonight had full beams on from commercial street to Musselburgh. I could barely see by the time I got home. Should be a hanging offence IMO.

Why didn't you flip the anti glare tab on your rear view mirror?

[J-C]

Why didn't you flip the anti glare tab on your rear view mirror?

Shouldn't have to, plus you get blinded in your wing mirrors.

[sleeping giant]

Why didn't you flip the anti glare tab on your rear view mirror?

My Mazda 6 doesnt seem to have that.
Had it in my older one but not this one.

Can it be automatic maybe?

[Peevemor]

My Mazda 6 doesnt seem to have that.
Had it in my older one but not this one.

Can it be automatic maybe?

Many rear view mirrors dim themselves automatically now.

[Scouse Hibee]

Drove behind a car this morning around 7.20am from Manse Road to Haymarket, he/she had no lights on at all despite me flashing from behind several times and oncoming traffic doing the same, driver was totally oblivious. Just shows how easy it is in modern cars where dash illuminates anyway to drive without realising your have no lights on.

[Wembley67]

Drove behind a car this morning around 7.20am from Manse Road to Haymarket, he/she had no lights on at all despite me flashing from behind several times and oncoming traffic doing the same, driver was totally oblivious. Just shows how easy it is in modern cars where dash illuminates anyway to drive without realising your have no lights on.

Absolutely!

My wife borrowed by car one day and had turned off the auto lights and it took the police to tell me that my lights were off, idiot that I am.

[pollution]

Car behind me tonight had full beams on from commercial street to Musselburgh. I could barely see by the time I got home. Should be a hanging offence IMO.


Pull over and let it pass. I have done this before and although I should not have to it is an instant solution.

[J-C]

Pull over and let it pass. I have done this before and although I should not have to it is an instant solution.

And once you're behind, stick your full beam on.

[The_Exile]

Pull over and let it pass. I have done this before and although I should not have to it is an instant solution.

Yeah that's what I done just after Porty High Street after fiddling with the rear-view anti glare didn't help much, was tempted to put the full beams on afterwards but thought that was too much akin to Yam behaviour :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

Drove behind a car this morning around 7.20am from Manse Road to Haymarket, he/she had no lights on at all despite me flashing from behind several times and oncoming traffic doing the same, driver was totally oblivious. Just shows how easy it is in modern cars where dash illuminates anyway to drive without realising your have no lights on.

Unbelievably behind this same vehicle again this morning, same scenario, no lights on!

[Future17]

Unbelievably behind this same vehicle again this morning, same scenario, no lights on!

Attach an informative sign to the back of your car and leave the house 20 seconds earlier tomorrow. :greengrin

[overdrive]

Irate cyclists who chuck a set of lorry keys at a pedestrian which is what happened to me this morning.

I had just crossed the road at Elm Row and became aware of a cyclist going radge at a lorry driver. The cyclist then reached into the lorry, grabbed the keys and launched them towards the pavement where it narrowly missed me. It could have had my eye out.

[stuart-farquhar]

Cyclists.

[Scouse Hibee]

I seem to encounter more and more pedestrians who think it’s smart to walk slowly as oncoming traffic approaches and even worse walk out into traffic whilst raising their hand for you to stop or slow down.WTF is that all about.
Either use recognised crossings or wait for a break in traffic you ****** idiots, if not be prepared to be told what an erse you are.

[J-C]

I seem to encounter more and more pedestrians who think it’s smart to walk slowly as oncoming traffic approaches and even worse walk out into traffic whilst raising their hand for you to stop or slow down.WTF is that all about.
Either use recognised crossings or wait for a break in traffic you ****** idiots, if not be prepared to be told what an erse you are.

One of my real peeves, always tempted to give them a wee dunt with the bumper but unfortunately its illegal.

[Killiehibbie]

One of my real peeves, always tempted to give them a wee dunt with the bumper but unfortunately its illegal.

Too costly with these modern cars and the way they collapse on impact.

[O'Rourke3]

I seem to encounter more and more pedestrians who think it’s smart to walk slowly as oncoming traffic approaches and even worse walk out into traffic whilst raising their hand for you to stop or slow down.WTF is that all about.
Either use recognised crossings or wait for a break in traffic you ****** idiots, if not be prepared to be told what an erse you are.Pedestrians have right of way in many situations. So a pedestrian crossing a side road where a car wants to turn left, car has to give way. The issue is usually "I was in the right" doesn't matter when you have already been killed.

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[J-C]

Too costly with these modern cars and the way they collapse on impact.


Not in a taxi though :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

Pedestrians have right of way in many situations. So a pedestrian crossing a side road where a car wants to turn left, car has to give way. The issue is usually "I was in the right" doesn't matter when you have already been killed.

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I realise there are situations where pedestrians have right of way, that doesn’t excuse the behaviour of the many who don’t though. It’s hilarious when the fools that want to play chicken with a moving vehicle realise you’re as mad as they are 😉

[Future17]

Pedestrians have right of way in many situations. So a pedestrian crossing a side road where a car wants to turn left, car has to give way. The issue is usually "I was in the right" doesn't matter when you have already been killed.

The pedestrian only has right of way in this scenario when they have started crossing before the driver has indicated their intention to turn into the road in question. There is an obligation on the pedestrian to look out for cars and not begin to cross when one is approaching.

A lot of the time pedestrians don't look and barely break stride.

[O'Rourke3]

I realise there are situations where pedestrians have right of way, that doesn’t excuse the behaviour of the many who don’t though. It’s hilarious when the fools that want to play chicken with a moving vehicle realise you’re as mad as they are [emoji6]Oh yes....

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[O'Rourke3]

The pedestrian only has right of way in this scenario when they have started crossing before the driver has indicated their intention to turn into the road in question. There is an obligation on the pedestrian to look out for cars and not begin to cross when one is approaching.

A lot of the time pedestrians don't look and barely break stride.Yip, but many car drivers dont actually indicate what they are about to do. In Edinburgh, that seems to include most, if not all, Private Hires...

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[grunt]

A lot of the time pedestrians don't look and barely break stride.A lot of the time they're looking at their phones with minimal awareness of their surroundings.


Yip, but many car drivers dont actually indicate what they are about to do. In Edinburgh, that seems to include most, if not all, Private Hires... Most assuredly, this.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

A lot of the time they're looking at their phones with minimal awareness of their surroundings.

I don't drive but, I became acutely aware of this in the summer (when sitting outside pubs on junctions) as pedestrians would hardly glance up from their phones as they stepped out into traffic. What's that important that you can't keep your phone in your pocket until you reach your destination?