Driving Pet Peeves

[J-C]

Every car or van I've driven since I got GPS had been closer to 60 when Speedo says 70, you're pushing towards 80 on the Speedo to be going 70mph.

If your speedo is at 70 and your only doing 60, I'd suggest your speedo is ****ed.

[LaMotta]

The ambulance thing, surely that must be a relative following it? That would always be my thinking.

It was a police car yesterday morning though when it happened......I think its usually just oblivious or selfish people.

[speedy_gonzales]

It was a police car yesterday morning though when it happened......I think its usually just oblivious or selfish people.

Hands up, I've done this and had no idea at the time. An ambulance came from behind as I was driving along Meadow Place Rd, I pulled in, let it pass, then carried on my way. Went to overtake a bus that had stopped at a bus stop, turns out it wasn't a bus stop 😮 and the driver was raging with me. I quickly realised my error and was very conciliatory, holding my hands up both in acknowledgement and apology but the bus driver wasn't having it.

Lesson learned!

[LaMotta]

Hands up, I've done this and had no idea at the time. An ambulance came from behind as I was driving along Meadow Place Rd, I pulled in, let it pass, then carried on my way. Went to overtake a bus that had stopped at a bus stop, turns out it wasn't a bus stop 😮 and the driver was raging with me. I quickly realised my error and was very conciliatory, holding my hands up both in acknowledgement and apology but the bus driver wasn't having it.

Lesson learned!

:greengrin

You are a good person though for apologising!

[Moulin Yarns]

The tweet actually says he was pulled over because he was driving too slow:hilarious.

You're giving me some laugh with your mad takes on this thread!

Like to hazard a guess what he was charged with?

Driving below the speed limit?

Driving without a valid licence?

Driving without insurance?

[LaMotta]

Like to hazard a guess what he was charged with?

Driving below the speed limit?

Driving without a valid licence?

Driving without insurance?

Ah Roger Irrelevant there you are :thumbsup:

If driving slowly wasn't a problem why did the Police pull him over for driving too slowly?

[Moulin Yarns]

Ah Roger Irrelevant there you are :thumbsup:

If driving slowly wasn't a problem why did the Police pull him over for driving too slowly?

So, nothing but another dig at me!!



2 actual driving offences and an inconvenience, but you can't answer a simple question. Rock on, you are the Stig 😂😂😂😂

[SChibs]

So, nothing but another dig at me!!



2 actual driving offences and an inconvenience, but you can't answer a simple question. Rock on, you are the Stig 😂😂😂😂

He asked a valid question which you have chosen to ignore?

[LaMotta]

So, nothing but another dig at me!!



2 actual driving offences and an inconvenience, but you can't answer a simple question. Rock on, you are the Stig 😂😂😂😂

Just admit you are wrong.

[Moulin Yarns]

He asked a valid question which you have chosen to ignore?

What question??

I've asked 4 but they can't answer one of them!?

[LaMotta]

What question??

I've asked 4 but they can't answer one of them!?

You havent asked 4 questions you asked one question and listed 3 possible answers. Your maths is getting worse. And as usual its totally irrelevant to the fact that driving too slowly is not acceptable.

There are plenty of examples of drivers being fined for driving too slowly on google. One has been stopped this week by the police because they were driving too slow.

You are either a troll on the wind up; have been consuming magic mushrooms; or a bonafide lunatic who should never be trusted with either the controls of a car or the buttons of a calculator.

Not responding to you again on this.:nanawave:

[Killiehibbie]

If your speedo is at 70 and your only doing 60, I'd suggest your speedo is ****ed.

Real speed closer to 60, not 10mph below to what the Speedo says but always more than 5 and often 7 or 8. I'm sure a GPS with pinpoint accuracy is more reliable than an uncalibrated car or van speedo.

[Moulin Yarns]

You havent asked 4 questions you asked one question and listed 3 possible answers. Your maths is getting worse. And as usual its totally irrelevant to the fact that driving too slowly is not acceptable.

There are plenty of examples of drivers being fined for driving too slowly on google. One has been stopped this week by the police because they were driving too slow.

You are either a troll on the wind up; have been consuming magic mushrooms; or a bonafide lunatic who should never be trusted with either the controls of a car or the buttons of a calculator.

Not responding to you again on this.:nanawave:


Result 😂

[SChibs]

What question??

I've asked 4 but they can't answer one of them!?

The bit on his post that ended with a question mark mate.

[SChibs]

Real speed closer to 60, not 10mph below to what the Speedo says but always more than 5 and often 7 or 8. I'm sure a GPS with pinpoint accuracy is more reliable than an uncalibrated car or van speedo.

I think the speedos are a % lower so as you get faster the mph you are out will increase

[stoneyburn hibs]

This thread has turned into a car crash!

[LaMotta]

This thread has turned into a car crash!

:hilarious:top marks

[SChibs]

This thread has turned into a car crash!

Theres a 40% chance LaMotta was involved

[LaMotta]

Theres a 40% chance LaMotta was involved

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

[Since90+2]

Like to hazard a guess what he was charged with?

Driving below the speed limit?

Driving without a valid licence?

Driving without insurance?

The Police literally confirm in the tweet the reason he was pulled over was because he was driving too slow. The initial police stop was nothing to do with insurance or licence, again as confirmed in the tweet.

Can you think why that would be the case?

[Stairway 2 7]

The RAC's take on it

Although there isn’t an official minimum speed limit on most motorways, travelling too slowly can be considered dangerous and you might attract the attention of the police.

In this case, you’d usually be let off with a verbal warning, but you could be prosecuted for careless driving.

Inspector Gareth Jones of the Roads Policing Unit said: “Driving too slowly on any road can result in the motorist being penalised for careless driving which carries a fine and penalty points on a licence.

"Each case has to be dealt with on its own merit. However, we would advise anybody who witnesses driving too slow and who has dashcam footage that it can be submitted to us via our #OpSnap campaign.”

[Hibrandenburg]

The RAC's take on it

Although there isn’t an official minimum speed limit on most motorways, travelling too slowly can be considered dangerous and you might attract the attention of the police.

In this case, you’d usually be let off with a verbal warning, but you could be prosecuted for careless driving.

Inspector Gareth Jones of the Roads Policing Unit said: “Driving too slowly on any road can result in the motorist being penalised for careless driving which carries a fine and penalty points on a licence.

"Each case has to be dealt with on its own merit. However, we would advise anybody who witnesses driving too slow and who has dashcam footage that it can be submitted to us via our #OpSnap campaign.”

What is too slow?

In Germany we have a minimum speed limit of 31mph on motorways and dual carriageways and on some of them no speed limit. The responsibility lies with those driving fast to do so within their capabilities and with due care and attention. I very much doubt that anyone in the UK would be done for driving 40 (that was the speed mentioned in the op if I recall correctly) on the motorway unless there were other mitigating circumstances. Yes, the police might use it as a reason to have a closer look at a driver but unless there are other mitigating circumstances, then these drivers will probably be sent on their way with a polite word in their shell like.

What grips my **** is that some on here are basically saying that if you can't or won't do 70 on the motorway then you should have your licence revoked, that's not only bull**** but also discriminatory to whole swathes of people who depend on their car but don't belong to the elite bunch of super drivers we have on here. The road is for everyone who can drive safely, be that at 70 or 40.

Fill your boots and pick that statement apart, but it is and will stay my opinion on the matter and will also be my last comment on the subject.

Yours Respectively

A professional driver with 39 years accident free driving in many different countries.

[Stairway 2 7]

What is too slow?

In Germany we have a minimum speed limit of 31mph on motorways and dual carriageways and on some of them no speed limit. The responsibility lies with those driving fast to do so within their capabilities and with due care and attention. I very much doubt that anyone in the UK would be done for driving 40 (that was the speed mentioned in the op if I recall correctly) on the motorway unless there were other mitigating circumstances. Yes, the police might use it as a reason to have a closer look at a driver but unless there are other mitigating circumstances, then these drivers will probably be sent on their way with a polite word in their shell like.

What grips my **** is that some on here are basically saying that if you can't or won't do 70 on the motorway then you should have your licence revoked, that's not only bull**** but also discriminatory to whole swathes of people who depend on their car but don't belong to the elite bunch of super drivers we have on here. The road is for everyone who can drive safely, be that at 70 or 40.

Fill your boots and pick that statement apart, but it is and will stay my opinion on the matter and will also be my last comment on the subject.

Yours Respectively

A professional driver with 39 years accident free driving in many different countries.

You shouldn't be on the roads if you aren't comfortable doing around 70 on the motorway, it's in the test for a reason. I suppose driving tests are discriminatory deliberately, you'd fail doing 40 on the motorway

[Just Alf]

What grips my **** is that some on here are basically saying that if you can't or won't do 70 on the motorway then you should have your licence revoked, that's not only bull**** but also discriminatory to whole swathes of people who depend on their car but don't belong to the elite bunch of super drivers we have on here. The road is for everyone who can drive safely, be that at 70 or 40.

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I was taking it that we all agreed that folks can drive at whatever speed they feel they can safely manage, some just didn't seem to grasp that two cars doing widely varying speeds can be more of a hazard than two going at the same speed.

Fwiw my wife is one of the slower drivers, totally hates dual carriage ways... I've always said, just stick in the inside lane and all will be fine, if she does want to overtake a truck or whatever make sure you've checked a long way back for approaching traffic as a car could be upon you quite quickly.

Edit: looking at the post before mine maybe not!

[AltheHibby]

What is too slow?

In Germany we have a minimum speed limit of 31mph on motorways and dual carriageways and on some of them no speed limit. The responsibility lies with those driving fast to do so within their capabilities and with due care and attention. I very much doubt that anyone in the UK would be done for driving 40 (that was the speed mentioned in the op if I recall correctly) on the motorway unless there were other mitigating circumstances. Yes, the police might use it as a reason to have a closer look at a driver but unless there are other mitigating circumstances, then these drivers will probably be sent on their way with a polite word in their shell like.

What grips my **** is that some on here are basically saying that if you can't or won't do 70 on the motorway then you should have your licence revoked, that's not only bull**** but also discriminatory to whole swathes of people who depend on their car but don't belong to the elite bunch of super drivers we have on here. The road is for everyone who can drive safely, be that at 70 or 40.

Fill your boots and pick that statement apart, but it is and will stay my opinion on the matter and will also be my last comment on the subject.

Yours Respectively

A professional driver with 39 years accident free driving in many different countries.

TBF, your drivers are a lot better than anyone else's.

Take Belgians for example (and the Kennedy Tunnel is just scary!)

[Keith_M]

It's already been confirmed from a number of different sources that you actually can be given a warning, or even fined in extreme cases, for driving too slowly on a UK motorway.


I don't think anybody's anybody's actually saying that we should all drive like lunatics, just that one part of the job of UK transport police is too keep traffic moving as smoothly as possible on motorways, which can be very difficult.

The experience I gave on this thread a few months back was from my uncle, who served in L&B Police for over thirty years.

He told me that the most common approach when encountering vehicles driving way below the speed limit, and causing a tailback, was to pull the car over, check first that everything was OK and then explain the problems of driving at 40mph (or whatever) on a motorway. If they felt uncomfortable driving any faster than that. they would then advise them that it might be a better idea to consider an alternative route.

Actually fining somebody was extremely rare... and usually reserved for uncooperative ********s.


I really don't see why anybody would have a problem with that.

[Stairway 2 7]

Uk least deaths the last time eu did a full report.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/MEMO_19_1990

From this year 4th I think in deaths per 100k


Norway 2.7

Switzerland 2.7

Sweden 2.8

United Kingdom 3.1

Netherlands 3.8

Denmark 4.0

Germany 4.1

Ireland 4.1

Spain 4.1

Finland 4.7

Malta 5.1

Austria 5.2

Cyprus 5.2

France 5.5

Italy 5.6

Belgium 5.8

[McD]

Real speed closer to 60, not 10mph below to what the Speedo says but always more than 5 and often 7 or 8. I'm sure a GPS with pinpoint accuracy is more reliable than an uncalibrated car or van speedo.


every satnav/gps I’ve used, 70 on the speedo has been about 67 on the satnav

[Killiehibbie]

every satnav/gps I’ve used, 70 on the speedo has been about 67 on the satnav

Same car or loads of different vehicles?

[Hermit Crab]

Tesco are ripping the piss now, 192.9 a litre of petrol in Tesco at Duloch in Dunfermline, BP garage down the road in Dalgety Bay is only 186.9 and Sainsburys at Gorgie is 185.9.

[Since90+2]

You shouldn't be on the roads if you aren't comfortable doing around 70 on the motorway, it's in the test for a reason. I suppose driving tests are discriminatory deliberately, you'd fail doing 40 on the motorway

You don't go on the motorway on your test, ever.

[Stairway 2 7]

You don't go on the motorway on your test, ever.

Yeah your right its a duel carriage way, but stillneed to get close to speed limit. Although I think they are talking about motorway, I know you can go on motorway on your lessons now

[Keith_M]

Tesco are ripping the piss now, 192.9 a litre of petrol in Tesco at Duloch in Dunfermline, BP garage down the road in Dalgety Bay is only 186.9 and Sainsburys at Gorgie is 185.9.


Prices are crazy just now but, yeah, that's some difference in price.

[lapsedhibee]

You shouldn't be on the roads if you aren't comfortable doing around 70 on the motorway

I don't understand why the Highway Code doesn't prohibit driving at less than 70.

All I can find is you should drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit



4. On the motorway (260 to 263)

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should
drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit (see the Speed limits table)
keep a safe distance from the vehicle in front and increase the gap on wet or icy roads, or in fog (see Rules 126 and 235).

261
You MUST NOT exceed
a speed limit displayed within a red circle on a sign
the maximum speed limit for the road and for your vehicle (see Rule 124).
Speed limits are enforced by the police (see Rule 124).
Law RTRA sects 17, 86, 89 & sch 6

262
The monotony of driving on motorways and other high-speed roads can make you feel sleepy. To minimise the risk, follow the advice in Rule 91 about ensuring you are fit to drive and taking breaks.
Service areas are located along motorways to allow you to take breaks and to obtain refreshments. Refreshment and rest facilities on the local road network may also be accessible from motorway exits.
​
263
Unless directed to do so by a police or traffic officer, you MUST NOT
reverse along any part of a motorway, including slip roads, hard shoulders and emergency areas
cross the central reservation
drive against the traffic flow.
If you have missed your exit, or have taken the wrong route, carry on to the next exit.
Laws MT(E&W)R regs 6, 8 & 10 & MT(S)R regs 4, 5, 7 & 9

[LaMotta]

I don't understand why the Highway Code doesn't prohibit driving at less than 70.

All I can find is you should drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit


4. On the motorway (260 to 263)

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should
drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit (see the Speed limits table)
keep a safe distance from the vehicle in front and increase the gap on wet or icy roads, or in fog (see Rules 126 and 235).

261
You MUST NOT exceed
a speed limit displayed within a red circle on a sign
the maximum speed limit for the road and for your vehicle (see Rule 124).
Speed limits are enforced by the police (see Rule 124).
Law RTRA sects 17, 86, 89 & sch 6

262
The monotony of driving on motorways and other high-speed roads can make you feel sleepy. To minimise the risk, follow the advice in Rule 91 about ensuring you are fit to drive and taking breaks.
Service areas are located along motorways to allow you to take breaks and to obtain refreshments. Refreshment and rest facilities on the local road network may also be accessible from motorway exits.
​
263
Unless directed to do so by a police or traffic officer, you MUST NOT
reverse along any part of a motorway, including slip roads, hard shoulders and emergency areas
cross the central reservation
drive against the traffic flow.
If you have missed your exit, or have taken the wrong route, carry on to the next exit.
Laws MT(E&W)R regs 6, 8 & 10 & MT(S)R regs 4, 5, 7 & 9

It can't be prohibited completely though because there will always be times when vehicles have to do less than 70.

[LaMotta]

Unneccesary slow driving is covered more generally by the Highway code:

144
​You MUST NOT

drive dangerously
drive without due care and attention
drive without reasonable consideration for other road users.


This applies to all roads.

[Stairway 2 7]

You obviously can set a minimum speed limit for most roads as that is just daft due to congestion ect. If there is problems with the
car ect, that obviously isn't the same subject. The road police officer above pretty much sums it up.

Inspector Gareth Jones of the Roads Policing Unit said: “Driving too slowly on any road can result in the motorist being penalised for careless driving which carries a fine and penalty points on a licence.

"Each case has to be dealt with on its own merit. However, we would advise anybody who witnesses driving too slow and who has dashcam footage that it can be submitted to us via our #OpSnap campaign.”

[lapsedhibee]

Unneccesary slow driving is covered more generally by the Highway code:

144
​You MUST NOT

drive dangerously
drive without due care and attention
drive without reasonable consideration for other road users.


This applies to all roads.

A steady cruising speed is the prescribed way to drive on a motorway.

Here's one definition of cruising speed (Collins dictionary):

cruising speed
in British English
(ˈkruːzɪŋ spiːd IPA Pronunciation Guide )
NOUN
the speed at which a ship, car, or aircraft travels most efficiently
eg My car has a motorway cruising speed of 60mph.

Some cars I think travel most efficiently at less than 60 (56 used to be quoted). 56-60 is I grant you a long away above 40, but the idea that people should be aiming to drive on motorways at 70 all the time is bonkers.

[Stairway 2 7]

Can't believe people are trying to arguing this point. engines efficiency 😆

[lapsedhibee]

Can't believe people are trying to arguing this point. engines efficiency 😆

It'll be on the all the front pages next time fuel's rationed.

[LaMotta]

A steady cruising speed is the prescribed way to drive on a motorway.

Here's one definition of cruising speed (Collins dictionary):

cruising speed
in British English
(ˈkruːzɪŋ spiːd IPA Pronunciation Guide )
NOUN
the speed at which a ship, car, or aircraft travels most efficiently
eg My car has a motorway cruising speed of 60mph.

Some cars I think travel most efficiently at less than 60 (56 used to be quoted). 56-60 is I grant you a long away above 40, but the idea that people should be aiming to drive on motorways at 70 all the time is bonkers.


Can't believe people are trying to arguing this point. engines efficiency ��

"Effcient" dictionary definition :

(of a system or machine) achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.


Travelling at 55 might be more fuel/energy resourceful, but it misses out the productivity gains of travelling at a higher speed. There is a balance to be struck.

[lapsedhibee]

"Effcient" dictionary definition :

(of a system or machine) achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.


Travelling at 55 might be more fuel/energy resourceful, but it misses out the productivity gains of travelling at a higher speed. There is a balance to be struck.

The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.

[Moulin Yarns]

The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.

Cruise control 👍

[Stairway 2 7]

So you can cruise bellow 70, but you will get pulled and can be fined if driving to slow on the motorway. Is that the consensus?

[LaMotta]

The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.

70 can be a steady cruising speed. As can 55/60. I think both are fine generally, so we probably agree on that?

Stairway 2 7's point that if you can't comfortably drive close to 70 in a car then you shouldn't be driving is completely valid. Hence driving tests.

The most important part of the highway code though in relation to driving too slow were the three general points I listed above.

[McD]

Same car or loads of different vehicles?


several standalone dedicated satnav units, probably around 14 in total

[ACLeith]

Coming back from Glasgow today at tea time, on the city by-pass. In the right hand lane doing about 70-75 in a steady queue of cars passing slower moving vans, lorries and cars. (No its not about THAT debate!)

Leaving a reasonable amount of space to the car in front. Was tailgated by a black Audi trying to bully me into letting him past to gain 10 yards. A tiny gap in the left hand lane appeared, he under passed me. When he reached his exit and slowed a little, he finished about 20 yards ahead of where he would have been had he stayed in our lane.

Hope he ran out of fuel with the extra he had used!

[EH6 Hibby]

Coming back from Glasgow today at tea time, on the city by-pass. In the right hand lane doing about 70-75 in a steady queue of cars passing slower moving vans, lorries and cars. (No its not about THAT debate!)

Leaving a reasonable amount of space to the car in front. Was tailgated by a black Audi trying to bully me into letting him past to gain 10 yards. A tiny gap in the left hand lane appeared, he under passed me. When he reached his exit and slowed a little, he finished about 20 yards ahead of where he would have been had he stayed in our lane.

Hope he ran out of fuel with the extra he had used!

My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.

[Hibrandenburg]

My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.

As a truck driver this is a real annoyance. Here it's the responsibility of the driver behind to ensure the safe breaking distance is adhered to. This means if someone has overtaken me with 1kph more speed moves back into the inside lane, then I have to brake to reestablish the minimum distance.

[matty_f]

Tesco are ripping the piss now, 192.9 a litre of petrol in Tesco at Duloch in Dunfermline, BP garage down the road in Dalgety Bay is only 186.9 and Sainsburys at Gorgie is 185.9.

The diesel is 199.9. Scandalous

[O'Rourke3]

My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.When I see that I generally speed up slightly. Still leaving a gap but not up the erse of the car in front. Those undertakers pretty much put me in the group who may need the other type.

I'm always happy to proceed in the left hand lane but generally on the bypass larger vehicles misjudge the hills and try and overtake 1 mph faster than the vehicle they think they can out run creating a lot of the problems.

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[Hermit Crab]

The diesel is 199.9. Scandalous


Passed Tescos in Corstorphine near my folks earlier today, petrol there is 189.9. I've never understood how the same supermarkets can have different petrol prices. We are getting done here over the water for sure. The Shell garage on Halbeath road near EEP was cheaper than Tesco a few weeks back, no idea what it is now as I've not passed by for a while.

[LaMotta]

Passed Tescos in Corstorphine near my folks earlier today, petrol there is 189.9. I've never understood how the same supermarkets can have different petrol prices. We are getting done here over the water for sure. The Shell garage on Halbeath road near EEP was cheaper than Tesco a few weeks back, no idea what it is now as I've not passed by for a while.

Tesco vary fuel prices depending on competition in a catchment area for each store. Asda used to have a standardised price for fuel throughout the UK regardless of store location, not sure if they still do that though.

[Keith_M]

As a truck driver this is a real annoyance. Here it's the responsibility of the driver behind to ensure the safe breaking distance is adhered to. This means if someone has overtaken me with 1kph more speed moves back into the inside lane, then I have to brake to reestablish the minimum distance.


There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately

[Moulin Yarns]

There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately

To ensure I leave plenty of room I always wait until I can see the whole front of the vehicle I've overtaken in my rearview mirror. If that leads to annoyance of anyone behind me that's their problem.

[Keith_M]

To ensure I leave plenty of room I always wait until I can see the whole front of the vehicle I've overtaken in my rearview mirror. If that leads to annoyance of anyone behind me that's their problem.


Yep, that's definitely a good approach.

[Hibrandenburg]

There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately

That used to really grip my **** over here but for some reason it's nowhere near as common as it used to be. I'm guessing that, now you can make online reports to the police has made people think twice about idiotic driving behaviour.

The increase in anti collision systems in vehicles will also probably have played a part too, if you get too close to the vehicle in front most of them set off an alarm sequence similar to the USS Enterprise's red alert and others will actually initiate an emergency brake.

[Keith_M]

That used to really grip my **** over here but for some reason it's nowhere near as common as it used to be. I'm guessing that, now you can make online reports to the police has made people think twice about idiotic driving behaviour.

The increase in anti collision systems in vehicles will also probably have played a part too, if you get too close to the vehicle in front most of them set off an alarm sequence similar to the USS Enterprise's red alert and others will actually initiate an emergency brake.


Delighted to hear that.

:aok:

[overdrive]

Drove back from Glasgow this morning and was doing a consistent 70-75 mph in the outside lane getting past the slower traffic. There were a few cars doing the same ahead of me but I was leaving some braking space. Car behind me was right up my backside and he seemed to be taking exception to the braking space. Cars ahead of me, eventually pulled in but were going about 65mph. I decided to pull in to let the guy up my rear (ooh er) past… but he didn’t. I then looked in my mirror and he was now way behind must have been going really slow (there was nothing ahead of him).

[grunt]

Drove back from Glasgow this morning and was doing a consistent 70-75 mph in the outside lane getting past the slower traffic. There were a few cars doing the same ahead of me but I was leaving some braking space. Car behind me was right up my backside and he seemed to be taking exception to the braking space. Cars ahead of me, eventually pulled in but were going about 65mph. I decided to pull in to let the guy up my rear (ooh er) past… but he didn’t. I then looked in my mirror and he was now way behind must have been going really slow (there was nothing ahead of him).
He's either on his phone or lighting a cigarette. Or both.

[Jim44]

He's either on his phone or lighting a cigarette. Or both.

Now that would be great invention .......... a phone with an inbuilt cigarette lighter. :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Now that would be great invention .......... a phone with an inbuilt cigarette lighter. :greengrin

Good way for us older men to rid themselves of sprouting ear hair, singe it off while calling home. :faf:

[Onceinawhile]

Fuel protests: Arrests as go-slow convoys cause motorway delays - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62034278)

People arrested for going too slow...

"Unfortunately we have had unsafe driving on the A38 including vehicles travelling at a dangerously low speed," a force spokesman said.

[danhibees1875]

Fuel protests: Arrests as go-slow convoys cause motorway delays - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62034278)

People arrested for going too slow...

"Unfortunately we have had unsafe driving on the A38 including vehicles travelling at a dangerously low speed," a force spokesman said.

When reading about that earlier the implications of it for this thread didn't jump out at me but there we are, case closed. :greengrin

Shout out to the protestor who was being filmed all morning for the news and who happily sat driving whilst on his phone and without a seatbelt on to be broadcast to the social media world.

[McD]

Folk who sit up your arse at high(er) speeds

not overly related to the driving (too) slowly debate, but people who are right on your bumper at 70+ in the outside lane. I’m overtaking traffic (probably doing 60ish), where exactly would he like me to go? The inside lane is full of traffic, and he might think he’ll intimidate into going faster but it’s more likely to make me back off and slowly overtake the inside lane traffic. And after all that, when I come off the motorway, he’s right there beside me anyway, so no gain apart from putting lots of people’s lives at risk

[Keith_M]

Folk who sit up your arse at high(er) speeds

not overly related to the driving (too) slowly debate, but people who are right on your bumper at 70+ in the outside lane. I’m overtaking traffic (probably doing 60ish), where exactly would he like me to go? The inside lane is full of traffic, and he might think he’ll intimidate into going faster but it’s more likely to make me back off and slowly overtake the inside lane traffic. And after all that, when I come off the motorway, he’s right there beside me anyway, so no gain apart from putting lots of people’s lives at risk


Have a look a few posts up from yours and you'll see you're not alone in this.

[McD]

Have a look a few posts up from yours and you'll see you're not alone in this.


:doh::greengrin I had actually read that too :greengrin

[overdrive]

Folk who sit up your arse at high(er) speeds

not overly related to the driving (too) slowly debate, but people who are right on your bumper at 70+ in the outside lane. I’m overtaking traffic (probably doing 60ish), where exactly would he like me to go? The inside lane is full of traffic, and he might think he’ll intimidate into going faster but it’s more likely to make me back off and slowly overtake the inside lane traffic. And after all that, when I come off the motorway, he’s right there beside me anyway, so no gain apart from putting lots of people’s lives at risk

Even more so when there’s other vehicles in front of you going the same speed. Are they magically going to disappear too?

[Keith_M]

:doh::greengrin I had actually read that too :greengrin


:greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

Melting tarmac.

Will Scottish roads be affected on Tuesday?

[Hibrandenburg]

Drivers leaving the motorway/Autobahn with 2 wheels in the exit lane and the other 2 still on the inside lane.

[Scouse Hibee]

Drivers not capable of leaving a roundabout without drifting into another lane.

[silverhibee]

Drivers not capable of leaving a roundabout without drifting into another lane.

Nightmare so it is, worst roundabout for me is one at McDonalds at Corstorphine, Glasgow Road.

[J-C]

Nightmare so it is, worst roundabout for me is one at McDonalds at Corstorphine, Glasgow Road.


Happened to me today, popped into M&S at Kinnaird Park, in the left hand lane next to the McD's exit and a wee van in the right hand lane decides to turn left and cut off my nose as he wanted to get to the A1 exit, erse.

[CropleyWasGod]

Drivers who don't accept that other drivers can be less than perfect.

[Gatecrasher]

Drivers who don't accept that other drivers can be less than perfect.

I think this is a big poblem, especially in a big city like Edinburgh where people can be unfamiliar with the city or even just certain areas. Like lanes for going in a stright line can change dramatically between sets of lights.

Unless they are consistanly being a moron I like to give folk a bit of space and time. Particularly if they look a bit lost.

[Keith_M]

Drivers who don't accept that other drivers can be less than perfect.


Then you;re definitely on the wrong thread.


:greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

Drivers who don't accept that other drivers can be less than perfect.

Drivers who don’t realise that they are that bad that they probably shouldn’t be behind the wheel. It’s not exclusive to geriatric drivers but certainly there are plenty of them. Glad my dear departed Dad realised that he just wasn’t safe to drive anymore and gave up of his own accord.

[speedy_gonzales]

There are 4-way temp lights at Craigcrook Road/March Road. I'm sitting there waiting for them to cycle through, eventually get a green and as I go through (with vehicles following) a driver coming from the opposite direction just drives straight through. I stopped, and because I was already in an unrelated foul mood, I made him drive back to a point where we could pass. He rolled down his window and shouted some obscenities along with some local facts (that I wasn't familiar with) that everyone just drives through the red lights because it takes too long.
The entitlement is strong in some folk.

[Jones28]

Drivers early in the morning thinks the roads are there’s alone: I had two very very near misses this morning on a 10 minute journey the extent I had to fully stop the car.

[Jim44]

I regularly drive through to my daughter’s in North Ayrshire, generally via Carnwath, Carluke, Garrion Bridge etc. The number of ‘Road closed’ incidents in Lanarkshire is unbelievable. Worse still, you get very little or no warning till you meet the barriers. I’ve decided to drive the long way round by the M8 for the foreseeable future.

[Jones28]

I regularly drive through to my daughter’s in North Ayrshire, generally via Carnwath, Carluke, Garrion Bridge etc. The number of ‘Road closed’ incidents in Lanarkshire is unbelievable. Worse still, you get very little or no warning till you meet the barriers. I’ve decided to drive the long way round by the M8 for the foreseeable future.

Nightmare at the moment.

[J-C]

Roadworks at Roseburn, mid friday they decided to make Roseburn St between Russell Rd and Roseburn Ave one way heading to Westfield and the west approach. There's no signage at West Approach so cars are turning into Roseburn St and then having to do 3 point turns because the road has suddenly became a no entry half way up at Roseburn Ave. I seen a woman having a right go at one of the workers giving him an earful.

Yesterday after taking some Hearts fans to McLeod St, there was 2 cars and a van blocking the road as they all decided to ignore the road signs and drive past the no entry, thus blocking the road for cars wanting to drive towards the West Approach, carnage and all because someone decided not to put a sign at the West Approach junction.

[Pretty Boy]

People who tailgate. Absolute fannies.

I dropped my daughter's pal of at the Gyle after the game yesterday then joined the Bypass. Pulled into the outside lane shortly after to pass a couple of cars and quickly came up to a car travelling at a slower speed. He was still travelling faster than the inside lane, I eased off and we continued to overtake cars. Next thing I'm aware of a red souped up thing roaring up the inside lane undertaking several cars then pulling out right behind me and sitting literally inches from my bumper. There was nowhere I could go, there were cars inside me I was passing and I couldn't go any quicker or I would be tailgating the guy in front of me. This went on for a couple of minutes, the guy in front was then able to pull back inside, I overtook him then pulled in. If I hadn't had my daughter in the car I would have been sorely tempted to brake test him at this point. Anyway Mr dickhead then roared away before hitting other traffic that wasn't travelling at 100mph about 300 yards ahead. He tried to undertake, tailgated someone else then tried to force his way between cars in between lanes. This went on for miles.

The best part is as we approached the junction at Straiton I passed this clown in the outside lane about 100 yards shy of the junction as he tailgated someone in the inside lane waiting to exit the bypass. All that nonsense and I got to the same point at almost exactly the same time as him.

[McD]

People who tailgate. Asbolutely fannies.

I dropped my daughter's pal of at the Gyle after the game yesterday then joined the Bypass. Pulled into the outside land shortly after to pass a couple to care and quickly came up to a car travelling at a slower speed. He was still travelling faster than the inside lane, I eased off and we continued to overtake cars. Next thing I'm aware of a red souped up thing roaring up the inside lane undertaking several cars then pulling out right behind me and sitting literally inches from my bumper. There was nowhere I could go, there were cars inside me I was passing and I could go any quicker or I would be tailgating the guy in front of me. This went on for a couple of minutes, the guy in front was then able to pull back inside, I overtook him then pulled in. If I hadn't had my daughter in the car I would have been sorely tempted to brake test him at this point. Anyway Mr dickhead then roared away before hitting other traffic that wasn't travelling at 100mph about 300 yards ahead. He tried to undertake, tailgated someone else then tried to force his way between cars in between lanes. This went on for miles.

The best part is as we approached the junction at Straiton I passed this clown in the outside land about 100 yards shy of the junction as he tailgated someone in the inside lane waiting to exit the bypass. All that nonsense and I got to the same point at almost exactly the same time as him.



this behaviour boils my piss, jeopardising dozens of lives, for no reason whatsoever

[Pretty Boy]

this behaviour boils my piss, jeopardising dozens of lives, for no reason whatsoever

Spoke to someone else who was on the road at the same time last night. Said to them 'should have seen this dick on the bypass last night'. Right away she said 'the red car?' Guy had undertaken her using the hard shoulder not long before I encountered him.

[J-C]

Little dickheads on stolen scooters flying about busy roads with no helmets, insurance etc, and wearing balaclavas. Had one fly past me and loads of other cars on saturday at Abbeyhill, he turned left at Marionville, they'll no be happy till they end up seriously injured at the RIE.

[SChibs]

Roadworks at Roseburn, mid friday they decided to make Roseburn St between Russell Rd and Roseburn Ave one way heading to Westfield and the west approach. There's no signage at West Approach so cars are turning into Roseburn St and then having to do 3 point turns because the road has suddenly became a no entry half way up at Roseburn Ave. I seen a woman having a right go at one of the workers giving him an earful.

Yesterday after taking some Hearts fans to McLeod St, there was 2 cars and a van blocking the road as they all decided to ignore the road signs and drive past the no entry, thus blocking the road for cars wanting to drive towards the West Approach, carnage and all because someone decided not to put a sign at the West Approach junction.

I got stuck there too. Assumed I missed the sign but didn't notice one when I drove back

[Moulin Yarns]

People who tailgate. Absolute fannies.

I dropped my daughter's pal of at the Gyle after the game yesterday then joined the Bypass. Pulled into the outside lane shortly after to pass a couple of cars and quickly came up to a car travelling at a slower speed. He was still travelling faster than the inside lane, I eased off and we continued to overtake cars. Next thing I'm aware of a red souped up thing roaring up the inside lane undertaking several cars then pulling out right behind me and sitting literally inches from my bumper. There was nowhere I could go, there were cars inside me I was passing and I couldn't go any quicker or I would be tailgating the guy in front of me. This went on for a couple of minutes, the guy in front was then able to pull back inside, I overtook him then pulled in. If I hadn't had my daughter in the car I would have been sorely tempted to brake test him at this point. Anyway Mr dickhead then roared away before hitting other traffic that wasn't travelling at 100mph about 300 yards ahead. He tried to undertake, tailgated someone else then tried to force his way between cars in between lanes. This went on for miles.

The best part is as we approached the junction at Straiton I passed this clown in the outside lane about 100 yards shy of the junction as he tailgated someone in the inside lane waiting to exit the bypass. All that nonsense and I got to the same point at almost exactly the same time as him.

Sometimes it's the only way to keep up a constant 70mph though 🤣🤣

[LewysGot2]

He's either on his phone or lighting a cigarette. Or both.

on Saturday going to the game two cars on the Queensferry Crossing held up everything behind them in both lanes as they, side by side, tried to pass cigarettes from one car to the other.

Then the one on the inside lane, who was the recipient, slowed down even more as they lit up.

What goes through folks’ heads…

[Hermit Crab]

this behaviour boils my piss, jeopardising dozens of lives, for no reason whatsoever


I've noticed tailgating happening a lot in 20/30mph limits. You're plodding along at the speed limit and some knob head sits right on your tail because the speed limit isn't fast enough for them. No need for it. Everyone is always in such a rush.

[Hibrandenburg]

on Saturday going to the game two cars on the Queensferry Crossing held up everything behind them in both lanes as they, side by side, tried to pass cigarettes from one car to the other.

Then the one on the inside lane, who was the recipient, slowed down even more as they lit up.

What goes through folks’ heads…

From my experience of attending road traffic accidents, normally it's the B pillar.

[speedy_gonzales]

Today is my birthday and I received a surprising gift from L&B's finest.
As posted here on this thread more than once before, my work vehicle is tracked & restricted, if I exceed a posted limit I leave myself open for discipline/sacking. I tend to drive everywhere bang on speed limits, and this seems to infuriate a small percentage of other road users.
Today, I was driving along Queens Drive from Holyrood to the Commie Pool. Although driving at 21 on my GPS, I had a young lady virtually physically attached to my rear bumper. A little behind her was a police car. I thought nothing of it and just kept on my way as I can't police other drivers, but the Police can!
As soon as we came on to Holyrood Park Road, the blue lights and tones came on. Although I was confident I'd done nothing wrong, I pulled over but the Policeman, getting out his car waved me on. After I thought about it, I got out and just asked them, is it to do with the tailgating? After they nodded I asked them to pass on the message that I hold no truck with her, but my motor has a spy in the cab and there's very little I can do but abide by the limits.
I sincerely hope the police weren't too hard on her but I also hope she learnt a lesson today.

Whilst this might seem like an innocuous interaction and hardly worthwhile posting, when was the last time you saw a squad car (not traffic) pull over a motorist for a relatively minor infraction?

[Just Alf]

Today is my birthday and I received a surprising gift from L&B's finest.
As posted here on this thread more than once before, my work vehicle is tracked & restricted, if I exceed a posted limit I leave myself open for discipline/sacking. I tend to drive everywhere bang on speed limits, and this seems to infuriate a small percentage of other road users.
Today, I was driving along Queens Drive from Holyrood to the Commie Pool. Although driving at 21 on my GPS, I had a young lady virtually physically attached to my rear bumper. A little behind her was a police car. I thought nothing of it and just kept on my way as I can't police other drivers, but the Police can!
As soon as we came on to Holyrood Park Road, the blue lights and tones came on. Although I was confident I'd done nothing wrong, I pulled over but the Policeman, getting out his car waved me on. After I thought about it, I got out and just asked them, is it to do with the tailgating? After they nodded I asked them to pass on the message that I hold no truck with her, but my motor has a spy in the cab and there's very little I can do but abide by the limits.
I sincerely hope the police weren't too hard on her but I also hope she learnt a lesson today.

Whilst this might seem like an innocuous interaction and hardly worthwhile posting, when was the last time you saw a squad car (not traffic) pull over a motorist for a relatively minor infraction?Happy Birthday!


On your last para... I can't remember the last ime I've seen anyone pulled over..

I'm pretty sure the reduction of physical road policing to build up cameras etc has led to a general dip in the quality of driving.

Imho anyways..

[McD]

Happy Birthday!


On your last para... I can't remember the last ime I've seen anyone pulled over..

I'm pretty sure the reduction of physical road policing to build up cameras etc has led to a general dip in the quality of driving.

Imho anyways..


it’s funny, I rarely see the police travelling at the speed limit. They always (completely generalising here) seem to sit just below the limit, especially on dual carriageway, as if they’re trying to tempt someone into speeding to overtake, or, they’re speeding themselves (not with blues and twos on). Lost count the number of times I’ve been travelling along at maybe a few mph over the limit, and the police car is either rapidly catching up with you, or disappearing into the distance in front.

[AltheHibby]

it’s funny, I rarely see the police travelling at the speed limit. They always (completely generalising here) seem to sit just below the limit, especially on dual carriageway, as if they’re trying to tempt someone into speeding to overtake, or, they’re speeding themselves (not with blues and twos on). Lost count the number of times I’ve been travelling along at maybe a few mph over the limit, and the police car is either rapidly catching up with you, or disappearing into the distance in front.

They drive below the limit or everything would just wait behind them causing congestion according to a local traffic cop.

Also, they are often pacing or trying to sneak other vehicles but don't want them to know, hence going a bit over the limit.

What really gets me is when they are in a hurry, with lights and sound, is the amount of morons that just don't move over for them.

[O'Rourke3]

Got my bypass undertaking dickhead moment earlier. SK19 CEU. Saw what they were up to but stipped me moving back to the left having just overtaken myself. Anyone who knows Spike Milligan's palane curae will know what I shouted....
Bwst was yer to com There was a fatal head on around the East Calder/ Kirknewton junction yeaterday. Didn't stop the Merc overtake 5 cars heading to a blind hill brow right after the lights. I like to beleive in natural selection but these idiots take others with them.

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[McD]

2 peeves on the way home:

sitting in a queue of traffic, waiting to turn right (across the oncoming traffic) out of the queue - if the car in front moves up to the car in front of him, there’ll be room for me to go, but he chooses to leave a 2 car gap (for no reason, there wasn’t a road on the left), meaning I’m stuck next to an island. By the time our queue moves, there’s a stream of traffic coming the other way, so now I’m left holding up loads of folk behind me


second one, several miles away and different cars. There’s a car in front of me, and another car in front of that, who is clearly not a very confident driver, the roads are really busy, which isn’t helping them. So the guy in between (directly in front of me) decides to be an aggressive prick and drive right up the arse of the nervous driver. Every time a set of lights change for us he’s moving to almost touching (before the queue ahead has moved), revving his engine. When we’re moving, he’s constantly getting very close then letting a little gap appear, then repeating. Just an utter cock, could see the poor person in front was getting put off by it, making them more nervous.

[Moulin Yarns]

Plans afoot to make parking spaces larger to be reflect the size of modern cars. For example the current mini is 30% larger than the original model.

[Scouse Hibee]

Folk who park their car in the middle of a pay and display bay meaning that instead of two cars being able to park in it they have it all to themselves. Happens regularly in side street next old TSB building in Corstorphine.

[Wembley67]

Plans afoot to make parking spaces larger to be reflect the size of modern cars. For example the current mini is 30% larger than the original model.

That's one of the joys or parking/driving in the states...the infrastructure can accommodate a tank with ease :greengrin

[Just Alf]

Folk who park their car in the middle of a pay and display bay meaning that instead of two cars being able to park in it they have it all to themselves. Happens regularly in side street next old TSB building in Corstorphine.They should be given a ticket for not paying for one of the spaces!

[lapsedhibee]

Folk who park their car in the middle of a pay and display bay meaning that instead of two cars being able to park in it they have it all to themselves. Happens regularly in side street next old TSB building in Corstorphine.

Once complained to a taxi driver who was doing this and he defended it on the grounds that he needed to get his passenger door exactly opposite the street door his fare was going in to. :bitchy:

[J-C]

Brain dead tourists at this time of year. The ones who think wandering around the road is ok, especially the Lawnmarket and the others who decide to drive around the city centre willy nilly looking at sites, add in all the 10mph tour coaches, thank for your business but **** off.

[J-C]

Once complained to a taxi driver who was doing this and he defended it on the grounds that he needed to get his passenger door exactly opposite the street door his fare was going in to. :bitchy:

Possibly picking up a wheelchair punter.

[heretoday]

Plans afoot to make parking spaces larger to be reflect the size of modern cars. For example the current mini is 30% larger than the original model.

Cars all look the same. Big black or white boats on wheels. The Mercs look like the Nissans. No beauty in those things.

[hibee_girl]

It’s probably been said before but people that just walk out in front of your car and act like you’re the one in the wrong! 🤬

[Wembley67]

Cheap finance ruined quality cars. Back in the day a Merc, BWM, Audi etc used to turn heads but now they are so common and most on the roads are entry level.

Out of that 'level' only Jaguar still carries class.

[J-C]

It’s probably been said before but people that just walk out in front of your car and act like you’re the one in the wrong! 🤬

All the friggin time, law was changed to give them right of way, now they think they have a right to just walk slowly in front of you, law was only for people crossing when you're turning left.

[hibee_girl]

All the friggin time, law was changed to give them right of way, now they think they have a right to just walk slowly in front of you, law was only for people crossing when you're turning left.

I had a guy shouting at me this week that he as a pedestrian had the right of way.

That doesn’t mean you’re allowed to just step out in front of a moving car!

[WeeRussell]

A couple of the free movie channels on sky/digital changing to ****ing Christmas channels in September.

[overdrive]

I had a guy shouting at me this week that he as a pedestrian had the right of way.

That doesn’t mean you’re allowed to just step out in front of a moving car!

I was approaching one of these bike lanes that expand to the entire lane at a traffic island where cars need to give way to the cyclist. There was a cyclist about to approach it so I slowed down but the cyclist was cycling so slow I’m surprised she could keep upright. Then she got to the traffic island and just stopped to look at her phone.

[Del Boy]

A couple of the free movie channels on sky/digital changing to ****ing Christmas channels in September.

Nothing worse when you’re driving

[Killiehibbie]

I had a guy shouting at me this week that he as a pedestrian had the right of way.

That doesn’t mean you’re allowed to just step out in front of a moving car!

They usually change their tune when it's pointed out that I might feel bad or even get locked up but they will be the statistic. A little bit of awareness and common sense helps us all continue on our way.

[Stairway 2 7]

20mph cuts crashes by a third in Edinburgh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-55863412

[Gatecrasher]

20mph cuts crashes by a third in Edinburgh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-55863412

20 MPH would be fast in a few of areas in Edinburgh these days.

[danhibees1875]

20mph cuts crashes by a third in Edinburgh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-55863412

I'm not arguing against your point or the limit itself, but how did we get here? It's September 2022, that's an article from January 2021, and it's using data from 2018... :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

I'm not arguing against your point or the limit itself, but how did we get here? It's September 2022, that's an article from January 2021, and it's using data from 2018... :greengrin

Not sure how I seen it on the list of articles on BBC today. The data was always going to be years before though, especially as covid years ****** data for everything.

Surprised it dropped that much though, I thought it was pretty much universally ignored

[RyeSloan]

Not sure how I seen it on the list of articles on BBC today. The data was always going to be years before though, especially as covid years ****** data for everything.

Surprised it dropped that much though, I thought it was pretty much universally ignored

It is ignored by what appears to be about 99% of drivers so very much a case of correlation not causation (as the article alludes to at the end) I’d suggest.

I’m also pretty positive that when it came in there was a handy map of where the crashes had happened that get counted for these stats..the vast majority of which had been on the main artery 40mph roads so it was particularly poorly targeted if that’s what they were trying to reduce.

[speedy_gonzales]

It is ignored by what appears to be about 99% of drivers so very much a case of correlation not causation (as the article alludes to at the end) I’d suggest.



Re 20 zones, I've mentioned before here, but when in my works motor, I have to drive at or below the posted limit or the spy-in-the-cab flags it up to management. Too many strikes and it's a disciplinary with the potential for P45.
Yesterday, as always, I'm driving at the posted 20 along Slateford road when a driver coming from the opposite direction but wishing to turn (right) across me had to wait. The wait was obviously too long as when I passed they leant on their horn. I was genuinely flummoxed so asked (in a non-aggressive way) and apart from absolutely wetting her nappy because I stopped and asked, she then said I was going too slow (I was doing 21 on the GPS). I remonstrated that I could only drive to the posted limit, I think it then dawned on her that it was a 20 but she doubled down and said "still, you were driving too slow, I'm waiting to get across here!".

So aye, there is a lot of ignorance out there!

[Moulin Yarns]

Had a close one yesterday. I'm on the main road approaching a junction to the left, I can see a pick up truck and cyclist approaching the junction.

The pick up is going to reach the junction before me and indicates right so crossed ahead of me but I was aware of the cyclist not slowing and had to brake sharply and lean on the horn. He hadn't seen me!

Not a young man, but he got a hell of a fright and I actually stopped and asked if he was OK. He apologised profusely and said he hadn't seen me. I was going about 25mph and had seen him for a couple of hundred metres as he approached the junction. There was no excuse for him not seeing a bright blue car!

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Cheap finance ruined quality cars. Back in the day a Merc, BWM, Audi etc used to turn heads but now they are so common and most on the roads are entry level.

Out of that 'level' only Jaguar still carries class.

My step dad has a jaguar (pronounces it jag-waaar). He's a bit of a prick

[RyeSloan]

My step dad has a jaguar (pronounces it jag-waaar). He's a bit of a prick

Loved it when I had a Jag…got it on a ridiculously cheap lease for a couple of years (was literally nearly half the price VW wanted for a golf on PCP) and never tired of coming out with the line of “Think I’ll just take the Jaaaaaag” or endless variations of [emoji1787][emoji1787]

Still miss that car so I do…and my ability to bore people about how much I liked it [emoji2956]

[Hibrandenburg]

Loved it when I had a Jag…got it on a ridiculously cheap lease for a couple of years (was literally nearly half the price VW wanted for a golf on PCP) and never tired of coming out with the line of “Think I’ll just take the Jaaaaaag” or endless variations of [emoji1787][emoji1787]

Still miss that car so I do…and my ability to bore people about how much I liked it [emoji2956]

I'm driving the company Jaguar iPace just now and it's by far the best drive I've ever experienced. Looks like something Homer Simpson would have designed though.

[Hibs90]

Taxi drivers who seem to think they are above the law. Usually the private hire cabs. Twats.

[LaMotta]

People who don't indicate right when they are going to the third exit on a standard 4 exit roundabout.

So it looks like they want to just exit at the second exit and go straight on. This causes mayhem, as cars from the 3rd exit going the other way understandably start to pull out, and then the original driver has the audacity to get angry!

I realise this has probably been covered before but its happened 3 times to me recently. There has been a common theme amongst the demographic of the drivers, but I won't say anything more on that as it might just be coincidence.:greengrin

[overdrive]

People who don't indicate right when they are going to the third exit on a standard 4 exit roundabout.

So it looks like they want to just exit at the second exit and go straight on. This causes mayhem, as cars from the 3rd exit going the other way understandably start to pull out, and then the original driver has the audacity to get angry!

You don’t need to indicate if there’s a lane marking. That’s what I was told by somebody when I posted something similar to you. That totally ignores that not everybody is familiar with the road markings on the opposite side of a roundabout.

[LaMotta]

You don’t need to indicate if there’s a lane marking. That’s what I was told by somebody when I posted something similar to you. That totally ignores that not everybody is familiar with the road markings on the opposite side of a roundabout.

Surely that can't be right!?

[CropleyWasGod]

People who don't indicate right when they are going to the third exit on a standard 4 exit roundabout.

So it looks like they want to just exit at the second exit and go straight on. This causes mayhem, as cars from the 3rd exit going the other way understandably start to pull out, and then the original driver has the audacity to get angry!

I realise this has probably been covered before but its happened 3 times to me recently. There has been a common theme amongst the demographic of the drivers, but I won't say anything more on that as it might just be coincidence.:greengrin

They shouldn't be doing that, whether the car on the roundabout is indicating or not.

[Peanut Shaz]

Impatient drivers who have to wait for 30 seconds or so for a bus to pull away from a bus stop. 400 bus stopped at the bus stop outside the dentist in Colinton Village just before the corner/bend leading to bridge heading to Gillespie crossroads. I stopped behind it as I was not prepared to overtaken a bend where I couldn't see what was coming. White van man behind me, sounds horn, rises his hands and shakes his head

[Peanut Shaz]

Impatient drivers who have to wait for 30 seconds or so for a bus to pull away from a bus stop. 400 stopped at the bus stop outside the dentist in Colinton Village just before the corner/bend leading to bridge heading to Gillespie crossroads. I stopped behind it as I was not prepared to overtake on a bend where I couldn't see what was coming. White van man behind me, sounds horn, raises his hands and shakes his head because he had to wait. Then proceeded to tailgate me all the way to the traffic lights at Lanark Road.

[LaMotta]

They shouldn't be doing that, whether the car on the roundabout is indicating or not.

You are probably right - but you should be able to do that and normally can as most people have the ability to work an indicator - it helps reduce congestion and gets the traffic flowing. The original person who hasn't indicated is incorrectly stating to the world they are going off at the 2nd exit, so they are the ones causing the problem.

[CropleyWasGod]

You should be able to do that and normally can - it helps reduce congestion and gets the traffic flowing. The original person who hasn't indicated is incorrectly stating to the world they are going off at the 2nd exit, so they are the ones causing the problem.

Pretty sure that if you pull on to a roundabout when there is a car already on it, you will be at fault if there's an accident.

I tend to ignore indicators in these situations, for the reasons we're discussing. I try to look into the driver's eyes 👀:)

[LaMotta]

Pretty sure that if you pull on to a roundabout when there is a car already on it, you will be at fault if there's an accident.

I tend to ignore indicators in these situations, for the reasons we're discussing. I try to look into the driver's eyes 👀:)

Yeah had edited my post to say you are probably right, just was a bit slow. :greengrin

[O'Rourke3]

I'm driving the company Jaguar iPace just now and it's by far the best drive I've ever experienced. Looks like something Homer Simpson would have designed though.Does it have three horns cos you just can't find it when you're mad?

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[overdrive]

Surely that can't be right!?

It’s not but apparently what a lot of people think.

[danhibees1875]

It’s not but apparently what a lot of people think.

I read lane markings to mean something like what's on the sheriffhall roundabout. I wouldn't indicate on that unless I was needing to correct a lane error and move from 1 lane to another, or to indicate off the roundabout if the lane I'm in splits between an exit and continuing around.

[Pretty Boy]

I read lane markings to mean something like what's on the sheriffhall roundabout. I wouldn't indicate on that unless I was needing to correct a lane error and move from 1 lane to another, or to indicate off the roundabout if the lane I'm in splits between an exit and continuing around.

Sheriffhall is arguably different because it's lighted so if everyone is resisting the urge to run amber or red lights then no one should be entering the roundabout into a lane of moving traffic. I would still argue when approaching from travelling west on the Bypass anyone using the inside of the 4 lanes should still indicate as that is for vehicles turning onto either the A7 Old Dalkeith Road towards the ERI or continuing round to the A6106 and on to Newton Village/Millerhill. 99% of the time I'm on the road I use the 2nd of those exits and it's not uncommon for people taking the first exit not to indicate then brake sharply (no idea why they have to do this) when turning off.

Maybe things have changed since I have passed my test but I was taught to indicate at roundabouts and junctions regardless of whether there were marked lanes. In the case of the latter your car could be blocking a left turn only (or similar) marking on the road so the driver behind may be unaware of your intention. TBH I generally don't bother at somewhere like Sherrifhall either with the exception of the junction I mentioned above. At somewhere like the Asda/Range roundabout between the A1 and Milton Link the roundabout is clearly lane marked but it would be someone either brave, foolish or suicidal who would try to navigate that without indicating their intentions.

[pollution]

Sheriffhall is arguably different because it's lighted so if everyone is resisting the urge to run amber or red lights then no one should be entering the roundabout into a lane of moving traffic. I would still argue when approaching from travelling west on the Bypass anyone using the inside of the 4 lanes should still indicate as that is for vehicles turning onto either the A7 Old Dalkeith Road towards the ERI or continuing round to the A6106 and on to Newton Village/Millerhill. 99% of the time I'm on the road I use the 2nd of those exits and it's not uncommon for people taking the first exit not to indicate then brake sharply (no idea why they have to do this) when turning off.

Maybe things have changed since I have passed my test but I was taught to indicate at roundabouts and junctions regardless of whether there were marked lanes. In the case of the latter your car could be blocking a left turn only (or similar) marking on the road so the driver behind may be unaware of your intention. TBH I generally don't bother at somewhere like Sherrifhall either with the exception of the junction I mentioned above. At somewhere like the Asda/Range roundabout between the A1 and Milton Link the roundabout is clearly lane marked but it would be someone either brave, foolish or suicidal who would try to navigate that without indicating their intentions.


If you are travelling west would the inside lane not take you to Dalkeith or A7 south ?

As you say because the lanes are lights controlled there is little point in indicating as there is no encroaching traffic.

[Pretty Boy]

If you are travelling west would the inside lane not take you to Dalkeith or A7 south ?

As you say because the lanes are lights controlled there is little point in indicating as there is no encroaching traffic.

Yep I meant to say travelling east

[BS44]

Impatient drivers who have to wait for 30 seconds or so for a bus to pull away from a bus stop. 400 bus stopped at the bus stop outside the dentist in Colinton Village just before the corner/bend leading to bridge heading to Gillespie crossroads. I stopped behind it as I was not prepared to overtaken a bend where I couldn't see what was coming. White van man behind me, sounds horn, rises his hands and shakes his head

Out of interest what would you have done if the bus was held up at that stop?

[Peanut Shaz]

Obviously if it was held up for a longer than expected time I would have to assess the situation and perhaps overtake on the corner if there was no other option. But I certainly wouldn't be taking that chance unnecessarily.

[overdrive]

Linked to the overtaking a bus one… placing a temporary light immediately after a bus stop but not temporarily moving/closing the bus stop.

My wife was driving along and caught up to a bus at the stop and went to overtake as she has done many times, only to find a temporary light was immediately in front of the bus with no space to pull in and it was on red.

[Scouse Hibee]

I was behind a learner driver today at the Longstone roundabout , understandably they were hesitant on entering the roundabout and waited far longer than I would have as a gap in the traffic came. I waited patiently. The erse behind me decided to lean on his horn and became extremely visibly irate. The car was clearly liveried as a driving instructors car but that didn’t deter him.

[silverhibee]

The amount of crashes on Glasgow road from the Maybury to PC world roundabout, most seem to be at the car wash, think it’s folk who want to turn left and and run into cars that are in the bus lanes, time for a few cameras to be put up for the folk who think it’s okay to drive along the bus lane during peak times.

[Wilson]

I was behind a learner driver today at the Longstone roundabout , understandably they were hesitant on entering the roundabout and waited far longer than I would have as a gap in the traffic came. I waited patiently. The erse behind me decided to lean on his horn and became extremely visibly irate. The car was clearly liveried as a driving instructors car but that didn’t deter him.

I guess it is never too early to learn that there are some amount of ********s on the road.

[speedy_gonzales]

The amount of crashes on Glasgow road from the Maybury to PC world roundabout.

Witnessed the aftermath of another accident on Glasgow road this afternoon. A black cab in the west bound bus lane that ends soon after the Marriot and a van in the middle of the three West bound lanes.
Both vehicles scraped down the side where the came together.
Would be unfair to comment directly on this accident as I didn't witness it but I have seen the wacky races that occur there after a football or rugby game, folk flying down the inside then merging at the last minute.

[silverhibee]

Witnessed the aftermath of another accident on Glasgow road this afternoon. A black cab in the west bound bus lane that ends soon after the Marriot and a van in the middle of the three West bound lanes.
Both vehicles scraped down the side where the came together.
Would be unfair to comment directly on this accident as I didn't witness it but I have seen the wacky races that occur there after a football or rugby game, folk flying down the inside then merging at the last minute.

Another one last night just past Fabios, looked like a Audi had hit a parked car.

[Pretty Boy]

Is drivers leaving the Bypass at a junction then rejoining the carriageway from the slip road at the other side of the same junction a new thing?

Watched a guy doing this the other night at the 3 junctions from Straiton to Dreghorn and I think he got ahead of about 4 cars in total. Seems utterly pointless to me and probably contributes to the congestion we are all having to sit in.

[AltheHibby]

Is drivers leaving the Bypass at a junction then rejoining the carriageway from the slip road at the other side of the same junction a new thing?



I sometimes do thos whe the M5 and M6 are at a standstill. Most times it gains me a decent amount of spaces, but sometimes I end up further back. I mainly do it to relieve boredom.

The main one I like to do is to approach a roundabout in the right turn lane and go right around if there's a big queue in my lane. That can save masses of time where I live.

[bringbackbenny]

Is drivers leaving the Bypass at a junction then rejoining the carriageway from the slip road at the other side of the same junction a new thing?

Watched a guy doing this the other night at the 3 junctions from Straiton to Dreghorn and I think he got ahead of about 4 cars in total. Seems utterly pointless to me and probably contributes to the congestion we are all having to sit in.

This happens every night at the northbound approach to the Queensferry Crossing. The vehicles which do it succeed in increasing the traffic merging from left onto the Crossing and slowing it down to a crawl for everyone else waiting in the 2 northbound lanes. And for the legitimate traffic from South Queensferry/Boness Rd.

Does my heid in.

[Peanut Shaz]

In the morning commute I have to head up Oxgangs Road North to turn onto Redford Road to join the bypass heading West at Dreghorn Link. Quite often it is stacked back down past Aldi and can take an age to move. I quite often carry on up the mini roundabout at the Hunters Tryst and go right round and head back down the hill and turn left.

[McD]

This happens every night at the northbound approach to the Queensferry Crossing. The vehicles which do it succeed in increasing the traffic merging from left onto the Crossing and slowing it down to a crawl for everyone else waiting in the 2 northbound lanes. And for the legitimate traffic from South Queensferry/Boness Rd.

Does my heid in.


see it a lot going southbound on the fife side as well, folk going down to the roundabout at north queensferry and back up

[O'Rourke3]

Is drivers leaving the Bypass at a junction then rejoining the carriageway from the slip road at the other side of the same junction a new thing?

Watched a guy doing this the other night at the 3 junctions from Straiton to Dreghorn and I think he got ahead of about 4 cars in total. Seems utterly pointless to me and probably contributes to the congestion we are all having to sit in.My belief for the years upto lockdown was people left the bypass at Hermiston Gate to join again at Sighthill. The number of cars on the inside lane trying to rejoin were why my route along the A71 towards Livingston was always blocked. They may have moved up as much as three places in the 30 minutes of saturated traffic on the road.
The BBC did and experiment on the busiest stretch of the M6 at rush hour where the three cars were told (1) stay on the inside lane (stay outside), lane jump left or right.They all made the same progress.

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[bingo70]

When you’ve been patiently waiting in gridlock traffic, normally around Leith recently, you finally get the green light to go and a pedestrian casually strolls out in front of you to cross the road, sometimes they’ve even got the audacity to smile or say thanks.

[Pretty Boy]

When you’ve been patiently waiting in gridlock traffic, normally around Leith recently, you finally get the green light to go and a pedestrian casually strolls out in front of you to cross the road, sometimes they’ve even got the audacity to smile or say thanks.

There has been a real increase in absolute wideos since the change in the highway code.

I'm predominantly a pedestrian when out and about so appreciate anything to keep us safer but it's all about common sense. A tightening up of the highway code to protect pedestrians at junctions seems to have become a green light for idiots and wannabe hard men strolling across roads all over the shop either desperate for confrontation or giving you the patronising smile.

[McD]

Not quite a peeve, as much as disbelief…

driving along the M8 in rush hour this evening, to see a guy driving along with his dog on his lap! What possesses people :confused:

[J-C]

There has been a real increase in absolute wideos since the change in the highway code.

I'm predominantly a pedestrian when out and about so appreciate anything to keep us safer but it's all about common sense. A tightening up of the highway code to protect pedestrians at junctions seems to have become a green light for idiots and wannabe hard men strolling across roads all over the shop either desperate for confrontation or giving you the patronising smile.


This, people think they have the right to cross at anytime anywhere, one guy just walked across the road when my lights had gone green and I had to break hard to miss him, needless to say he got an earful from me.

[hibee_girl]

People who wait until they are already turning before putting their indicator on 🤬

[Scouse Hibee]

Idiots who cut corners when turning right, had to break sharply this morning when approaching the junction to avoid my front end being hit. Remonstrated with the erse who thought he was some kind of hard man by telling me he would do me! Blew him a kiss and told him if he fights as well as he drives he’ll need help…..

[Keith_M]

People who wait until they are already turning before putting their indicator on 🤬


:agree:

Also one of my pet hates.

[Key West]

There has been a real increase in absolute wideos since the change in the highway code.

I'm predominantly a pedestrian when out and about so appreciate anything to keep us safer but it's all about common sense. A tightening up of the highway code to protect pedestrians at junctions seems to have become a green light for idiots and wannabe hard men strolling across roads all over the shop either desperate for confrontation or giving you the patronising smile.

When the lights turn to green and a pedestrian runs right across you from an angle, I've pretty much given up driving since getting a bus pass,will probably find something else to moan about!😂

[J-C]

Idiots who cut corners when turning right, had to break sharply this morning when approaching the junction to avoid my front end being hit. Remonstrated with the erse who thought he was some kind of hard man by telling me he would do me! Blew him a kiss and told him if he fights as well as he drives he’ll need help…..


Anyone who does a dangerous maneuver and then gets sarky/angry with you when you remonstrate with them, they actually think they were in the right to be a dick on the road.

[Onceinawhile]

Idiots who cut corners when turning right, had to break sharply this morning when approaching the junction to avoid my front end being hit. Remonstrated with the erse who thought he was some kind of hard man by telling me he would do me! Blew him a kiss and told him if he fights as well as he drives he’ll need help…..

I live right next to a junction in my street. I have to drive up to the junction at 5mph now because of the number of idiots who cut the corner, usually going far too fast as well.

If you can't get your car round a corner from the appropriate place, maybe try more lessons, or buying a smaller car. Infuriating and all to save half a second. There'll be an accident there in no time.

[Wembley67]

I live right next to a junction in my street. I have to drive up to the junction at 5mph now because of the number of idiots who cut the corner, usually going far too fast as well.

If you can't get your car round a corner from the appropriate place, maybe try more lessons, or buying a smaller car. Infuriating and all to save half a second. There'll be an accident there in no time.

Totally!! The amount of people that have come around the corner with half their car on my side of the road is incredible...obviously I get a filthy look as clearly it's always my fault.

[Onceinawhile]

Totally!! The amount of people that have come around the corner with half their car on my side of the road is incredible...obviously I get a filthy look as clearly it's always my fault.

This is the bit that gets me.

"How dare you be in the right place on the road? That's where I want my car to be!"

[grunt]

If you can't get your car round a corner from the appropriate place, maybe try more lessons, or buying a smaller car. Infuriating and all to save half a second. There'll be an accident there in no time.
Few weeks ago I was driving back from Manchester. Usually I cut off at Abington and go the Biggar road, but this was mid afternoon and the sun was out so I decided to take the Moffat road. Climbing out of Moffat just before the Beeftub the road gets really narrow with an old bridge over a tight bend. I was on this bridge when coming towards me round the corner appeared an Audi, driving far too fast for the sharp bend, and on my side of the road. How he missed me I'll never know. I had to stop afterwards as I was shaking so much.

[silverhibee]

Roadworks on Glasgow Road heading west, nightmare, digging at the B&M at Maybury but tailbacks to Western cross at Murrayfield.

[O'Rourke3]

Not a peeve more of a WTF. Slowing down for a right turn at a red light the car behind broke into oncoming lane and did the right turn gambling on no amber flyers moving on their light. No visibility at all of those on that right turn.

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[danhibees1875]

There's a car that parks just after the corner of the junction going into my street. It necessitates turning right, sharply, on to the wrong side of the road and hoping there's no one coming the other way.

Someone will crash one day. Probably two moving cars whilst leaving this problem car unscathed!

[AltheHibby]

I just saw a learner, followed by 3 others cars in excess of 200 yards into 1 way roadworks the wrong way!
There is a Road Closed sign and a couple of No Entry signs at the part where the road goes from 2 way to 1 way. I am still trying to figure out how stupid you can be and still get a licence in the West Midlands.

[AltheHibby]

I just saw a learner, followed by 3 others cars in excess of 200 yards into 1 way roadworks the wrong way!
There is a Road Closed sign and a couple of No Entry signs at the part where the road goes from 2 way to 1 way. I am still trying to figure out how stupid you can be and still get a licence in the West Midlands.

[overdrive]

People who can't judge how much room they've got on their passenger side. I was driving behind someone at lunchtime who was half on the wrong side of the road to 'avoid' the bike lane bollards. I know the bollards are a bit annoying but there was seriously loads of space.

[McD]

Selfish drivers who make things more difficult and dangerous for others, for no reason at all.

I was coming off the M8 into Livingston this evening, there’s another car ahead of me on the slip road to join the dual carriageway. There’s 2 cars on the dual carriageway, with a decent gap to another car behind them.

the car in front of me positions them self to drop into the gap, matching their speed and spacing, I back off to move out behind the car at the back. Then that prick decides to accelerate hard to stop the car in front of me getting out ahead of him, forcing them to brake hard and avoid him, moving out behind. Idiot then moves out to the outside lane and shoots off anyway.

what was the point, apart from proving you’re an ********. Nothing to gain, and plenty to lose for multiple people, behaviour like that just baffles (and infuriates) me

[O'Rourke3]

Been done I think but drivers who sit on the brake at lights and blinding the car behind. Worse than those who put fog lights on and don't turn them off when there's clearly a car behind which no longer needs the warning(if it ever did).

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[speedy_gonzales]

Been done I think but drivers who sit on the brake at lights and blinding the car behind. Worse than those who put fog lights on and don't turn them off when there's clearly a car behind which no longer needs the warning(if it ever did).

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That, unintentionally, might be me. I have an automatic that when I arrive at a junction/red light I can brake to a complete stop then an electronic brake comes on holding the car, only going off when I depress the accelerator. Looking in my rear view I'm fairly sure the brake lights are on when this happens. I've been advised to do this rather than switch to park/neutral each time.

[marinello59]

That, unintentionally, might be me. I have an automatic that when I arrive at a junction/red light I can brake to a complete stop then an electronic brake comes on holding the car, only going off when I depress the accelerator. Looking in my rear view I'm fairly sure the brake lights are on when this happens. I've been advised to do this rather than switch to park/neutral each time.

My auto stop only works while the brake is depressed so my brake lights are on at junctions as well.

[Onceinawhile]

My auto stop only works while the brake is depressed so my brake lights are on at junctions as well.

That's what it does for me too. I put it in park if I'm at 3 or 4 way lights, but not 2 way.

[RyeSloan]

That's what it does for me too. I put it in park if I'm at 3 or 4 way lights, but not 2 way.

What an odd set up…there should never be the need to put an auto in park when driving about. That literally disengages the gearbox and applies a pin to hold the gears in place. Not something you should need to be doing. Neutral and handbrake (which should come off automatically when put back into drive and accelerator pressed) would seem a better option.

Any auto stop I’ve had kicks in when I’ve came to a full stop and only starts the engine again when the accelerator is pressed. Certainly never had to keep my foot on the brake to keep the engine off.

Might be the difference between auto stop and hill start assist right enough but also my current auto puts it’s handbrake on when stopped (a kind of handbrake lite) that holds the car in place no matter what the road angle.

In other words I stop, the engine stops, the handbrake lite comes on and I take my foot off the brake while we await the lights to change or whatever and then press the accelerator to start the engine and the brake comes off….quite why any manufacturer would set it up different I have no idea!

To be fair tho there is a button to turn on the hill start assist / handbrake lite mode so maybe not all have that option.

[Hibbyradge]

I have the choice of keeping my foot on the brake, putting the car into park or putting it into neutral and using the standard style hand brake if it's necessary.

I've had the car over 5 years and I can count the number of times I've used the hand brake, in all circumstances, on one hand.

So at the lights, it's either park or foot on the brake.

[Hibrandenburg]

That's what it does for me too. I put it in park if I'm at 3 or 4 way lights, but not 2 way.

If I press my foot brake all the way to the floor it goes on hold and the brake lights go off. I mostly use semi-autonomous mode in traffic, so the car stops, starts and steers itself and the brake lights go off once it comes to a halt.

[SaulGoodman]

My own headlights are turning into a pet peeve for me. They are ridiculously bright. If I’m driving down a country road 6/10 cars will flash me and I’m willing to bet the other 4 have some choice words for me too.

Only thing is there’s nothing I can do about it, they are self levelling, I cannot adjust them even though I’m well aware they’re brighter than the sun.

[RyeSloan]

My own headlights are turning into a pet peeve for me. They are ridiculously bright. If I’m driving down a country road 6/10 cars will flash me and I’m willing to bet the other 4 have some choice words for me too.

Only thing is there’s nothing I can do about it, they are self levelling, I cannot adjust them even though I’m well aware they’re brighter than the sun.

Sure you have googled it already but just in case you have not there is normally still adjustment screws even for self levelling headlights.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Is it a prerequisite for getting a job with Advance Construction that you have to be an absolute roaster behind the wheel?

[LaMotta]

The inability to be able to turn left ANYWHERE now when you are heading up Leith walk. The no left turn on to London Road is absoultely ludicrous, forcing cars to go up and round past the playhouse and top of Broughton St and then back down to do a right turn. Its xxxxxx madness and the council needs to come up with an alternative solution to the light sequence to allow cars to just turn left there. It can't be that hard.

They seem to be stubbornly persisting with it and I think I read will be installing bollards soon to stop cars doing a left.

[speedy_gonzales]

The inability to be able to turn left ANYWHERE now when you are heading up Leith walk. The no left turn on to London Road is absoultely ludicrous, forcing cars to go up and round past the playhouse and top of Broughton St and then back down to do a right turn. Its xxxxxx madness and the council needs to come up with an alternative solution to the light sequence to allow cars to just turn left there. It can't be that hard.

They seem to be stubbornly persisting with it and I think I read will be installing bollards soon to stop cars doing a left.

Going to the game on Saturday, 3 drivers took the illegal left (including one on L plates) in one green light sequence, barging through folk crossing at the green man.
I'm surprised nobody has been hit (or worse) yet.
The council have made it clear that the no left turn is to maintain the North/South traffic flow. If they add the left turn then the pedestrian crossing sequence has to be separate, meaning traffic will actually take longer to go through the junction.

[LaMotta]

Going to the game on Saturday, 3 drivers took the illegal left (including one on L plates) in one green light sequence, barging through folk crossing at the green man.
I'm surprised nobody has been hit (or worse) yet.
The council have made it clear that the no left turn is to maintain the North/South traffic flow. If they add the left turn then the pedestrian crossing sequence has to be separate, meaning traffic will actually take longer to go through the junction.

That's what the council are saying but I'm not buying it, they have to make a change. They could for example have a left filter on there and shorten the time for the right turn filter from coming down Leith Walk. After all, a lot of the cars doing the right turn are the ones that would have just turned left coming up Leith Walk.

The fact so many people are taking the left turn regardless of the rules shows that they have got it badly wrong. It needs a rethink.

[weecounty hibby]

Random braking!! Followed someone this morning that had the brakes on at every bend in the road, every parked car, every crossing point, evrytime a care came in the opposite direction. We were only doing max 20mph for the whole journey as well and the roads were damp but free from ice and snow. Infuriating

[J-C]

Pilrig St then onto Balfour St, right onto Leith Walk and then left along Dalmeny St.

[LaMotta]

Pilrig St then onto Balfour St, right onto Leith Walk and then left along Dalmeny St.

Im sure I tried that fairly recently but it wasn't possible? If you're 100 percent sure though I'll be doing it next time!

[Scouse Hibee]

Pilrig St then onto Balfour St, right onto Leith Walk and then left along Dalmeny St.

The left turn into Dalmeny was blocked a few weeks ago, has it reopened?

[LaMotta]

The left turn into Dalmeny was blocked a few weeks ago, has it reopened?

That's what I thought too.....

[J-C]

That's what I thought too.....

I went that way with a punter a couple of keeps ago, unless they've changed it since, hard to keep up.

[J-C]

Just took a punter this way and Dalmeny St open at Leith Walk end.

[LaMotta]

Just took a punter this way and Dalmeny St open at Leith Walk end.

:aok:

[overdrive]

Moving from driving a manual car for 20+ years to an automatic. My wife and I picked up our new automatic yesterday. Great other than constantly moving your left hand towards the gear stick whenever you think you should be changing gear (weirdly I'm not reaching for the clutch with my left foot at the same time).

My wife drove it to work today and seems to be having an issue with hill starts. She said she's putting it in drive, pressing the accelerator and removing the handbrake and it isn't moving off for "ages". "Probably hill start assist, then. It keeps the brakes on for a few seconds" I said.

"Yes I know what hill start assist is, stop mansplaining". Well what's the issue, then. Apparently "too complicated to explain over WhatsApp." :greengrin:rolleyes:

[RyeSloan]

Moving from driving a manual car for 20+ years to an automatic. My wife and I picked up our new automatic yesterday. Great other than constantly moving your left hand towards the gear stick whenever you think you should be changing gear (weirdly I'm not reaching for the clutch with my left foot at the same time).

My wife drove it to work today and seems to be having an issue with hill starts. She said she's putting it in drive, pressing the accelerator and removing the handbrake and it isn't moving off for "ages". "Probably hill start assist, then. It keeps the brakes on for a few seconds" I said.

"Yes I know what hill start assist is, stop mansplaining". Well what's the issue, then. Apparently "too complicated to explain over WhatsApp." :greengrin:rolleyes:

Ahh this is a good one [emoji1787]

Must admit when I moved to an auto it was my left foot that kept looking to whack the clutch down when coming to a stop…took a while to get out of that habit.

Now it’s reversed whenever I drive a manual (rarely) there can be a stall or two on arrival at the lights [emoji2957].

[Hibrandenburg]

Moving from driving a manual car for 20+ years to an automatic. My wife and I picked up our new automatic yesterday. Great other than constantly moving your left hand towards the gear stick whenever you think you should be changing gear (weirdly I'm not reaching for the clutch with my left foot at the same time).

My wife drove it to work today and seems to be having an issue with hill starts. She said she's putting it in drive, pressing the accelerator and removing the handbrake and it isn't moving off for "ages". "Probably hill start assist, then. It keeps the brakes on for a few seconds" I said.

"Yes I know what hill start assist is, stop mansplaining". Well what's the issue, then. Apparently "too complicated to explain over WhatsApp." :greengrin:rolleyes:

I feel your pain. We need two cars at home, one of them is automatic and the other is stick shift and I keep forgetting the stick shift isn't automatic. Add to that at work we have a fleet of about 25 cars, Jaguar full electric, audi hybrids, Mercedes diesel and petrol, Range Rover hybrids and diesels and Armoured Land Rovers, every day is like trying to learn to drive all over again.

[J-C]

Moving from driving a manual car for 20+ years to an automatic. My wife and I picked up our new automatic yesterday. Great other than constantly moving your left hand towards the gear stick whenever you think you should be changing gear (weirdly I'm not reaching for the clutch with my left foot at the same time).

My wife drove it to work today and seems to be having an issue with hill starts. She said she's putting it in drive, pressing the accelerator and removing the handbrake and it isn't moving off for "ages". "Probably hill start assist, then. It keeps the brakes on for a few seconds" I said.

"Yes I know what hill start assist is, stop mansplaining". Well what's the issue, then. Apparently "too complicated to explain over WhatsApp." :greengrin:rolleyes:
I was driving an automatic Merc taxi last week when my TX one was going through its test, when I got my TX back I kept looking to put it in gear without the clutch, took a few hrs to get used to it again.

[overdrive]

I feel your pain. We need two cars at home, one of them is automatic and the other is stick shift and I keep forgetting the stick shift isn't automatic. Add to that at work we have a fleet of about 25 cars, Jaguar full electric, audi hybrids, Mercedes diesel and petrol, Range Rover hybrids and diesels and Armoured Land Rovers, every day is like trying to learn to drive all over again.

We also have a small car which is manual. This is going to be a nightmare going between the two.

The only time I’ve driven an automatic before this was a hire car in the States on holiday for two weeks. Took me ages to get used to a manual again when I got home.

[Jim44]

Waiting to turn right at a T junction. Car approaching from the right at a rate of knotts but signalling to turn left. Uncertain of their true intention because of their speed, you sit tight to make sure. Louis Hamilton brakes at the last minute and turns left, as intended, but, with an impatient shake of the head, gives you a blank questioning stare. Infuriating.

I meant to add : f**cking ********s!!!!

[overdrive]

Folk that for some reason drive across two lanes at once. Pick a bloody lane.

[hibee_girl]

People who drive big cars but can’t park them properly! :grr:

[The_Exile]

People who drive big cars but can’t park them properly! :grr:

Yep, the amount of Chelsea tractors I see parked at 30 degree angles almost outnumbers the ones that are parked straight. Never see this much with estate cars though which I would've thought would be more difficult to park. Although folk who drive estate cars are obvously better drivers and much more sensible than the SUV lot :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

When you’re driving towards a car that is waiting to turn across the path of you from a side road, you see him from let’s say 200 metres, he doesn’t move, you’re now 100 metres from him, he doesn’t move, you get to 50 metres then 30 metres and then he finally decides to pull out across your path.

[heretoday]

People who drive big cars but can’t park them properly! :grr:

People who drive big cars full stop.
Tories.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

People who drive big cars full stop.
Tories.

They think they look classy but they honestly just look like Wayne Rooneys fever dream


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[LaMotta]

Having to park on a yellow line outside your home at night cos there aren't enough pemit holder spaces in an area for those who have bought permits then getting a parking ticket for the 4th time in 12 months cos you once again forget to move the car in the morning :brickwall

[McD]

Utter clowns with no road awareness or common sense

followed a guy down the length of the bypass in the outside lane who was consistently 100 yards off the car in front, numerous vehicles undertaking us and moving in front of him.

finally as we approach the Calder road off ramp, he moves in, I start to over take, when my car is halfway past his (ie, my passenger door is level with his bonnet), he suddenly starts moving back out, forcing me to accelerate to avoid being hit by him! I then move into the inside lane, he progresses until halfway past me, then cuts back across the front of me forcing me to brake to avoid a collision! Completely oblivious or just downright dangerous

[overdrive]

Drivers that get confused by traffic lights intended for traffic coming from a different direction so go through their green light but then stop shortly after at a red light intended for a different direction.

Example: the junction at Tesco in Corstorphine. If you are coming from the Drumbrae roundabout, there are two sets of lights for cars intending to go straight on towards Broomhall. One at the actual bit where you stop at the red light and another attached to the crossing island just after the junction.

The amount of times I’ve seen cars coming from Ladywell Road, turn left then stop at the crossing because they see the second set of lights described above is unreal.

It also used to happen a lot at the junction of Leith Street/Waterloo Place/Princes Street. Coming from Princes St towards Waterloo Pl, there was/is (not driven that way in ages) a second set of lights intended for those going straight on attached to the crossing outside Waverley Gate. Cars would turn left from Leith Street and just stop when they saw the red light.

[RyeSloan]

Drivers that get confused by traffic lights intended for traffic coming from a different direction so go through their green light but then stop shortly after at a red light intended for a different direction.

Example: the junction at Tesco in Corstorphine. If you are coming from the Drumbrae roundabout, there are two sets of lights for cars intending to go straight on towards Broomhall. One at the actual bit where you stop at the red light and another attached to the crossing island just after the junction.

The amount of times I’ve seen cars coming from Ladywell Road, turn left then stop at the crossing because they see the second set of lights described above is unreal.

It also used to happen a lot at the junction of Leith Street/Waterloo Place/Princes Street. Coming from Princes St towards Waterloo Pl, there was/is (not driven that way in ages) a second set of lights intended for those going straight on attached to the crossing outside Waverley Gate. Cars would turn left from Leith Street and just stop when they saw the red light.

Still happens on the last one…saw a classic there a few days ago. Car comes up Leith Street, starts to turn left then immediately stops at the red light, which is the repeater for the Princes St traffic, blocking anyone behind.

No amount of horn blasting from the queue behind them was shifting them either [emoji1787]

[Scouse Hibee]

Cyclists who think it’s okay to cycle with one hand whilst carrying a box the size of a double headboard in other and struggling to balance. Absolute madness.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Confirmed pedestrian here :bye: Didn't think I would have any driving pet peeves as I don't drive. But I do use the roads, on buses and as a pedestrian. My issue is dusk and peoples lack of awareness about it. Firstly cyclists who wear dark clothing and have no lights bombing along the road at dusk, it is selfish and dangerous to them, pedestrians and drivers. With my retinopathy they are practically invisible to me at this time of night. I think if you are going to ride a bicycle then hi-vis and lights at all times should be necessary by law. Also drivers who don't put there lights on at dusk, if it is not full daylight your lights should be on. Feels better getting that off my chest!

Thanks, this will probably be my last post on this thread, but I still read it, I see a lot of these things mentioned on here as I walk and bus it around the city

[Edina Street]

At the request of Alfiembra, here's the Driving Pet Peeve thread for frustrated motorists.

So, to kick it off.......
When you are just about to get into your car in a car park some Dumbo decides to draw in tight alongside your driver's door despite there being empty spaces everywhere around. :grr:

(1) Vehicles that don't join the motorway properly on slip roads. Instead of finding a gap and speeding up to the same speed as other motorists and merge with other motorists like a professional, they either try and join the motorway by instead driving alongside another car, meaning that someone has to take action, or they simply come along to slowly, and instead of accelerating they break, and bring the entire motorway and slip road to a standstill on a daily basis.

(2) Excessive lane changing, overtaking and lane weaving. Whilst I appreciate that by law we must stick to the far left unless overtaking, and that lane hogging is also illegal, it is also good to remember that one of the biggest causes of crashes on a motorway is the act of changing lanes. Either changing from right lane to middle lane at the same time as a vehicle is changing from left lane to middle lane, or simply another vehicle getting stuck in ones blind spot. Trying as much as possible to stay at the same speed as other vehicles in ones lane and reduce the amount of lane weaving we have to do simply requires a little patience and greatly reduces the risk of accidents and bringing an entire motorway to a halt.

(3) When you put on your indicator to over take the vehicle in front of you, and suddenly the impatient driver behind you decides to put on their indicator and absolutely foot it ahead of you.

(4) Drivers that constantly have to break because they can't drive without slamming their foot down on the accelerator, meaning that they are constantly getting too close to the the car in front.

(5) Vehicles that go round a roundabout like a stockcar racer.

[SChibs]

Drivers that get confused by traffic lights intended for traffic coming from a different direction so go through their green light but then stop shortly after at a red light intended for a different direction.

Example: the junction at Tesco in Corstorphine. If you are coming from the Drumbrae roundabout, there are two sets of lights for cars intending to go straight on towards Broomhall. One at the actual bit where you stop at the red light and another attached to the crossing island just after the junction.

The amount of times I’ve seen cars coming from Ladywell Road, turn left then stop at the crossing because they see the second set of lights described above is unreal.

It also used to happen a lot at the junction of Leith Street/Waterloo Place/Princes Street. Coming from Princes St towards Waterloo Pl, there was/is (not driven that way in ages) a second set of lights intended for those going straight on attached to the crossing outside Waverley Gate. Cars would turn left from Leith Street and just stop when they saw the red light.

Almost a daily occurrence at the right turn fr Albion Road onto Easter Road. Idiots

[OldEast]

Drivers that get confused by traffic lights intended for traffic coming from a different direction so go through their green light but then stop shortly after at a red light intended for a different direction.

Example: the junction at Tesco in Corstorphine. If you are coming from the Drumbrae roundabout, there are two sets of lights for cars intending to go straight on towards Broomhall. One at the actual bit where you stop at the red light and another attached to the crossing island just after the junction.

The amount of times I’ve seen cars coming from Ladywell Road, turn left then stop at the crossing because they see the second set of lights described above is unreal.

It also used to happen a lot at the junction of Leith Street/Waterloo Place/Princes Street. Coming from Princes St towards Waterloo Pl, there was/is (not driven that way in ages) a second set of lights intended for those going straight on attached to the crossing outside Waverley Gate. Cars would turn left from Leith Street and just stop when they saw the red light.

It's an automatic fail in the driving test.

[J-C]

Merging traffic on the bypass, heading home this morning after picking up my granddaughter, the stretch between Edinburgh Park and Baberton is shocking and the problem is purely cars merging from both junctions, once past the traffic suddenly sped up and by Dreghorn it was moving freely, what the hell happens with drivers moving into flowing traffic from slip roads?

[bringbackbenny]

This is the way. Alas rarely practiced at the Queensferry Crossing

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[speedy_gonzales]

Lawn market.
Folk just ambling about the roundabout there as if it was pedestrianised.
I'd never intentionally hit or intimidate someone crossing the road, in fact I invariably slow down or invite folk to cross if I see them waiting, but today was a complete free for all between the usual tourists and visiting egg chasing Taffs.
I'm well aware the Highway Code has been updated and although I abide by rule H1, rule H2 doesn't mean folk can walk over roundabouts willy nilly.

[overdrive]

I was driving to the supermarket tonight and before I even got out my street I was blocked off by a takeaway delivery driver who just stopped in the middle of the road. I might have managed to get round him had he actually closed his door but, no he left it wide open.

[overdrive]

Pedestrians that stand at a zebra crossing with no intention to cross the road.

[grunt]

Pedestrians that stand at a zebra crossing with no intention to cross the road.

Pedestrians who stand at a zebra crossing who DO want to cross the road but they're looking at their phones and don't notice you've stopped.

[OldEast]

Pedestrians who stand at a zebra crossing who DO want to cross the road but they're looking at their phones and don't notice you've stopped.

Pedestrians at pedestrian crossings on quiet roads with no cars in sight. Still press the button but walk over anyway thus stopping the next car to come along unecessarily.

[grunt]

Pedestrians at pedestrian crossings on quiet roads with no cars in sight. Still press the button but walk over anyway thus stopping the next car to come along unecessarily.This. Similarly pedestrians who press the button on a pedestrian crossing even though the cars are stuck in a queue and not moving. Invariably the queue starts to move and then the green man comes on.

[danhibees1875]

This. Similarly pedestrians who press the button on a pedestrian crossing even though the cars are stuck in a queue and not moving. Invariably the queue starts to move and then the green man comes on.

Obviously the situation changes each time it happens but I've got to similar situations and pressed the button. There's two lines of traffic, you don't know if they'll start moving, and there's always the chance a bike is coming up between the lines of traffic.

[greenlex]

Pedestrians at pedestrian crossings on quiet roads with no cars in sight. Still press the button but walk over anyway thus stopping the next car to come along unecessarily.
This used to really grind my gears till I thought about it logically and just chilled. If they hadn’t walked early they would be on the crossing at the green man so you’d be stopped in any case. Peace to all.:greengrin

[OldEast]

This used to really grind my gears till I thought about it logically and just chilled. If they hadn’t walked early they would be on the crossing at the green man so you’d be stopped in any case. Peace to all.:greengrin

And peace to you brother 👍
I meant if they hadn't pushed the button the cars wouldn't be stopped at all. I'm aware some crossings automatically bring up the green man but many don't.

[AltheHibby]

And peace to you brother 👍
I meant if they hadn't pushed the button the cars wouldn't be stopped at all. I'm aware some crossings automatically bring up the green man but many don't.

We have one next to us that automatically comes on. No-one ever crosses there.

[WeeRussell]

Obviously the situation changes each time it happens but I've got to similar situations and pressed the button. There's two lines of traffic, you don't know if they'll start moving, and there's always the chance a bike is coming up between the lines of traffic.

And if they do start moving you’ve got some grumpy driver shouting abuse at you for not using the button to cross, or not even paying attention to pedestrians because it’s green for him to go 😁

[grunt]

And if they do start moving you’ve got some grumpy driver shouting abuse at you for not using the button to cross, or not even paying attention to pedestrians because it’s green for him to go 😁
:confused:

[WeeRussell]

:confused:

Only jesting, G.

Joking aside though, if the green man tends to come on as soon as the traffic starts moving again - it shows how close a call it is. Better to be safe than sorry for us pedestrians!

[J-C]

People who try to cross the road 20 yards from a pedestrian crossing, just walk to the crossing ffs it's only 20 yards away.

[Alfiembra]

Need a new exhaust for my sons car and trying to compare prices from a few places like Kwik-Fit, Farmers Autocare, National Tyres etc. and it’s impossible to get a price it seems without selecting a fitting centre, booking an appointment date and time, entering all your details name address car registration, contact number, can we contact you for future promotions…….and on and on and on.

I just want a price!!!!!!!!!!

[Edina Street]

Drivers that drive faster at nighttime than they would during the day, despite the fact that vision is poorer during the night than it is during the day.

I once got pulled over by a police officer in Fort William whilst driving back from Skye at about 2am. The police officer asked me, "do you know why I have pulled you over"?, and I replied "no". She informed me that she had pulled me over because I was driving "too slow". I informed her that I was driving at 20mph through the town centre of Fort William and that I was just being careful, and she agreed that this was the speed I was doing. This was right around the time of the 20's plenty campaign and the City of Edinburgh reducing the speed limit to 20mph in most built up areas. The police officer ended up not even breathalysing me and just went on her way. But what was she trying to say? Just because it is nighttime and vision is poorer I should be hurtling through their town like a bat out of hell?

[O'Rourke3]

Drivers that drive faster at nighttime than they would during the day, despite the fact that vision is poorer during the night than it is during the day.

I once got pulled over by a police officer in Fort William whilst driving back from Skye at about 2am. The police officer asked me, "do you know why I have pulled you over"?, and I replied "no". She informed me that she had pulled me over because I was driving "too slow". I informed her that I was driving at 20mph through the town centre of Fort William and that I was just being careful, and she agreed that this was the speed I was doing. This was right around the time of the 20's plenty campaign and the City of Edinburgh reducing the speed limit to 20mph in most built up areas. The police officer ended up not even breathalysing me and just went on her way. But what was she trying to say? Just because it is nighttime and vision is poorer I should be hurtling through their town like a bat out of hell?TBF older drunk drivers would drive slowly and carefully so as not to draw attention. Which was drawn by driving slowly and carefully... Hopefully you are not pulled over habitually.

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[Edina Street]

TBF older drunk drivers would drive slowly and carefully so as not to draw attention. Which was drawn by driving slowly and carefully... Hopefully you are not pulled over habitually.

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There was a time when I would have debated with you all day and night about drink driving. I was once of the opinion that drink did not have the impairing effects on driving that people would have you believe, and I used to hold my own mother up as an example. She was so nervous before her driving test that she popped in to a pub and downed two whiskeys before getting in the car. She passed.

However, since being in the passenger seat with a drunk driver that was on the wrong side of the road and up on the kerb, I have since changed my mind, and I appreciate why drink driving is now classed as a criminal offence.

And no, I am not pulled over habitually, but since passing my HGV test in 2011, along with my drivers awareness test, I have literally went from boy racer to being too careful, and driving is no longer about enjoyment for me, but responsibility, and I often find myself at odds with other road users, even lorries, at nighttime when I tend to slow it down a little and drive more like I am on my HGV test again, whilst other road users at nighttime appear to think this is the time for going faster.

It is maybe also a cultural thing. I once hired a car in Tangier and conducted a nighttime drive to the border of the Sahara desert and was pulled over by a police officer that wanted to see my documentation. Once the police officer was happy with my documents, he let me on my way, but not without complimenting me on my careful driving. He said: "You drive good, it is nighttime, vision no good, keep drive slow".

[Wembley67]

People who try to cross the road 20 yards from a pedestrian crossing, just walk to the crossing ffs it's only 20 yards away.

Crossing at designated crossing areas is a sign of weakness :greengrin My wife goes mental at me for doing this and I can't even explain why I do it - pointless :wink:

[OldEast]

Crossing at designated crossing areas is a sign of weakness :greengrin My wife goes mental at me for doing this and I can't even explain why I do it - pointless :wink:

My wife won't cross a road until we're directly opposite wherever it is we are going. Even if the road is quiet and there's a chance to cross before we get there. 🤬🤬🤬

[Edina Street]

My wife won't cross a road until we're directly opposite wherever it is we are going. Even if the road is quiet and there's a chance to cross before we get there. 🤬🤬🤬

I once had a debate with a female about people that use the green man when the road is empty with only myself on the road. I lost the debate when she pointed out that crossing the road without pressing the button is setting a bad example to young children.

[Pretty Boy]

People who park in parent and child spaces when they don't have a child.

Aye nae bother mate I'll try and get my child out his seat with 6 inches of space just so you don't have to drag your fat a*** an extra 20 yards to the shop.

[GlesgaeHibby]

People who park in parent and child spaces when they don't have a child.

Aye nae bother mate I'll try and get my child out his seat with 6 inches of space just so you don't have to drag your fat a*** an extra 20 yards to the shop.

File alongside people that park in the pick-up point. ********s.

[weecounty hibby]

People who park in parent and child spaces when they don't have a child.

Aye nae bother mate I'll try and get my child out his seat with 6 inches of space just so you don't have to drag your fat a*** an extra 20 yards to the shop.

That and the disabled bays. I was in Morrisoms in Alloa last week and some self entitled prick had parked his big silver Mercedes right across the zebra crossing at the front door!

[overdrive]

People who park in parent and child spaces when they don't have a child.

Aye nae bother mate I'll try and get my child out his seat with 6 inches of space just so you don't have to drag your fat a*** an extra 20 yards to the shop.

A favourite pass time of a current Hibs player. Not one of the dafties either.

[overdrive]

Drivers that drive faster at nighttime than they would during the day, despite the fact that vision is poorer during the night than it is during the day.

I once got pulled over by a police officer in Fort William whilst driving back from Skye at about 2am. The police officer asked me, "do you know why I have pulled you over"?, and I replied "no". She informed me that she had pulled me over because I was driving "too slow". I informed her that I was driving at 20mph through the town centre of Fort William and that I was just being careful, and she agreed that this was the speed I was doing. This was right around the time of the 20's plenty campaign and the City of Edinburgh reducing the speed limit to 20mph in most built up areas. The police officer ended up not even breathalysing me and just went on her way. But what was she trying to say? Just because it is nighttime and vision is poorer I should be hurtling through their town like a bat out of hell?

The police accused me of kerb crawling when I was 18 or 19. I was waiting to turn left onto Salamander Street late at night coming home from work.

“Why have you stopped here?”

Pointing at the light: “because it is a red light”

“Oh”
Light changes to green.

“Can I be off now?”

:greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

I once had a debate with a female about people that use the green man when the road is empty with only myself on the road. I lost the debate when she pointed out that crossing the road without pressing the button is setting a bad example to young children.

If you cross on red in Germany, there's a good chance someone will shout "child killer" after you, not so much in Berlin but I've witnessed it a few times elsewhere.

[McD]

People who park in parent and child spaces when they don't have a child.

Aye nae bother mate I'll try and get my child out his seat with 6 inches of space just so you don't have to drag your fat a*** an extra 20 yards to the shop.


completely agree, selfish pricks


a mate who’s daughter is a bit older than mine will often stop his car in the car park to put the window down and shout at them to shame them into shifting their car. Once or twice he’s even shouted at them in the shop if they’ve not moved it

[WeeRussell]

If you cross on red in Germany, there's a good chance someone will shout "child killer" after you, not so much in Berlin but I've witnessed it a few times elsewhere.

I’ve definitely been barked at for jay-walking in Germany before. Unless it was one of the many other things I deserve to be shouted at for of course… but it took place immediately after nipping over the road 😁

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Crossing at designated crossing areas is a sign of weakness :greengrin My wife goes mental at me for doing this and I can't even explain why I do it - pointless :wink:

People who press the button, at any time busy or not, are *****bags and deserve our ridicule


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[OldEast]

If you cross on red in Germany, there's a good chance someone will shout "child killer" after you, not so much in Berlin but I've witnessed it a few times elsewhere.

On a slightly similar note I was waiting with others at a crossing in Inverness. Once a few cars had passed there was a huge space to the next one and plenty time to cross so off I went. Behind me I heard a young lad saying "come on Dad" to be quickly answered by "STOP if he wants to kill himself that's up to him" I remember feeling sorry for the lad to have such an embarrassing Dad but he probably had a point, even though he was stretching it to bursting point 😀

[EH6 Hibby]

If you cross on red in Germany, there's a good chance someone will shout "child killer" after you, not so much in Berlin but I've witnessed it a few times elsewhere.

When I was in Berlin traffic lights seemed to be optional to drivers, especially taxis, every time we were crossing a busy street on the green man someone would almost run us over usually turning into the Main Street from a side street.